1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 2: Welcome in Thursday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. I 4 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 2: feel like we say this a lot. There are a 5 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 2: lot of different news stories that are breaking out there 6 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 2: as the chaos continues to build as we move towards 7 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 2: election day on November fifth. We are what six weeks 8 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 2: a week, six months and a week away from official 9 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 2: election day on November fifth, and Trump is in court 10 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 2: in New York City. He had a incredible reception from 11 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 2: construction workers early this morning in New York City before 12 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:45,200 Speaker 2: he went into court. We will discuss that, including Trump 13 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 2: saying that he thinks he can actually win New York 14 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 2: and that he's going to have a big rally at 15 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 2: Madison Square Garden. I will say, the reception that he 16 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 2: got from construction crew workers and the reception that he 17 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 2: got in Harlem, it's credible how well he's being received 18 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 2: in New York City. We will discuss that. But the 19 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 2: biggest story, by the way, there's several other things that 20 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 2: I'm fired up about this. I don't know that anybody 21 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:13,960 Speaker 2: else cares. There's an all time low for babies being 22 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 2: born in the United States. I don't know, Buck, if 23 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 2: you pay attention to this, I know you would carry 24 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 2: or married. And we're working. We're working on number one. 25 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 2: And you know, one thing we talk about is that 26 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 2: we wish that we had met each other sooner. People 27 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 2: used to ask me, like, why didn't I get married 28 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 2: till last forty I was just waiting to meet the 29 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 2: right person. I met the right person. You know, you know, 30 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 2: and you know, and you're good to go. But we 31 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 2: both agree. I mean, I think it would have been 32 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 2: really nice to have met younger and started a family sooner. 33 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 2: I mean, I think you getting three kids doing, and 34 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 2: your in late twenties, early thirties. I was twenty eight 35 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 2: when my first was born. And people, so I say 36 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 2: all that just because I understand I don't want to 37 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 2: ever be a do as I say, not as I 38 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 2: do thing. But I think a lot of you listening 39 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 2: who have families. Some of you are not just parents 40 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 2: but grandparents. You already know this, Clay. We need a 41 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 2: whole societal rethink about the way it goes. And I 42 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 2: know we've got the big Supreme Court argument all morning, 43 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 2: and we're gonna spend a lot of time on that, 44 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 2: but just I think this is critically important. Elon Musk 45 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 2: is a very a outspoken voice on this as well. 46 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 2: Now he has like nine kids with a few different women. 47 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not you know him a past we 48 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 2: should have, but we should have a fun conversation about this. 49 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 2: I'm gonna give him a pass because he's a genius, 50 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 2: and I think geniuses should have as many kids as 51 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 2: possible because their kids could save the world. So I'm 52 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 2: giving him a pass. In general, I think people should 53 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 2: be married to one person. I want. I think it's 54 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 2: good that we say that. I think we're both giving 55 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 2: Elon a pass for a number of reasons on this, 56 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:49,679 Speaker 2: and one is I think he's doing more to keep 57 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 2: freedom and Western civilization alive than you know it would be. 58 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 2: I mean, you could argue him and Trump. I mean, 59 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 2: you know that you start to look at who's at 60 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 2: the top of that list. Anyway, you should we should 61 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 2: be having more kids. There needs to be a rethink 62 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 2: of the paradigm that has been out that I grew 63 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 2: up with. I'll just tell you, especially in cities, it's different. Obviously, 64 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 2: you have three kids, you got married younger, Clay. If 65 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 2: you grow up in New York, in LA in Chicago 66 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 2: and any number of these cities or you move to 67 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 2: them when you're a young adult. It's yet as far 68 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 2: as you can in your career and don't even think 69 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,239 Speaker 2: about getting married until you're thirty five or forty. I'm yeah, 70 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 2: very common, and the numbers show this. It's not the 71 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 2: way to do it. We should have families younger, and 72 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 2: that would be one thing that I would do differently 73 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 2: if I could. But I have to meet Carrie ten 74 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 2: years ago. Hey, yeah, well the headline. I give credit 75 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 2: to the Wall Street Journal for actually covering this, and 76 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 2: we will circle back and have a discussion. But the 77 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 2: total fertility rate in the United States fell to one 78 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 2: point six two berths per women in twenty twenty three. 79 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 2: That's a two percent decline. That is the lowest fertility 80 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 2: rate on record since the United States began tracking this 81 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 2: in the nineteen thirties. Children are ultimately a vote on 82 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 2: a positive belief for the future. That is what kids represent, 83 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 2: babies in particular represent, and so the fact that fertility 84 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 2: is at a one hundred year low, We've never had 85 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 2: it this low since the United States began to track 86 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 2: it is I think a really bad sign, but will. 87 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 2: I think this is a huge topic. I think it 88 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 2: creates a lot of also societal dysfunctions. I think that 89 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 2: people and look, some people can't be parents. Some people 90 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 2: choose not to be parents, you know, and there's a 91 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 2: whole range of and as we're all fine, people get 92 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 2: to choose their life path. But as a society we 93 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,359 Speaker 2: should be fruitful and multiplied. Like, as a society, we 94 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 2: should be having more children. And it doesn't get talked 95 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 2: about enough. I think it also goes into you know, 96 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,679 Speaker 2: we we're very quick to point out China's one child 97 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 2: policy is horrific and inhumane, and it absolutely is. I 98 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:51,919 Speaker 2: mean you add up that, I think something like sixty 99 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 2: million babies have been aborted since since Roe v. Wade. 100 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 2: We actually needed more people, we actually need I mean, 101 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 2: put aside the morality of the lives, and I mean 102 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 2: that's obviously critical, but I'm just saying demographically and as 103 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:08,239 Speaker 2: a society, America needs more Americans. This is a real thing, yes, 104 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 2: And if you have the luxury to be able to 105 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 2: take care of kids, I mean, I wish I had more, 106 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 2: but I'm happy to have three, but I wish I 107 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 2: had more. But all time low for babies. All right, 108 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 2: let's go into the Supreme Court case on presidential immunity. 109 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 2: I think is it still ongoing or are they still 110 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 2: asking questions right now? I think it's close. Basically, it's 111 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 2: been going on for the last couple of hours, and Buck, 112 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 2: I thought it went well for Trump, better than I expected. 113 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 2: My now prediction for what's going to happen in this 114 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 2: case is and maybe I should take a step back 115 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 2: and explain exactly what's going on. Essentially, the Supreme Court 116 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 2: is considering kind of a two front question. One, can 117 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 2: a president be prosecuted for actions that took place while 118 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 2: he was in office? Second part of that, if he can, 119 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:04,039 Speaker 2: what is the extension of presidential powers? In other words, 120 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 2: let me give you an example that I think everybody Republican, Democrat, 121 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:11,239 Speaker 2: independent would agree with. If a president orders a missile 122 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 2: strike on a terrorist organization in the Middle East, and 123 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 2: the missile strike misses and hit someone else, the International 124 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 2: Court of Human Rights law cannot charge the president of 125 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 2: the United States with murder and try to drag him 126 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 2: in to the Hague and put him in prison for that. 127 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 2: That would be within the scope of his powers. Similarly, 128 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 2: if let's say, the Waco raid, which I think was 129 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 2: totally botched. President orders the raid to take place at Waco, 130 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 2: Department of Justice, FBI, everybody bungles it. The intent there 131 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 2: is not to commit a murder. The President, I don't 132 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 2: believe could be prosecuted for murder based on the way 133 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,239 Speaker 2: that that act took place, right, I think in general 134 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 2: that would be an example. I try to use one international, 135 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 2: one national, because this has to do with particular national 136 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:06,119 Speaker 2: action as opposed to international behavior. But you would agree, 137 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 2: I think, in general with that. That's what the scope 138 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 2: of powers if we look at we kind of build 139 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 2: up from the foundation of what both sides agree on, 140 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 2: and then you can narrow it down to where the 141 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 2: dispute is right both sides. Sour and Dreaven Sour was 142 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 2: Trump's lawyer. Dreaban was a special council, sorry, counsel to 143 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 2: the city. So he's like a super special counsel. He 144 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 2: is council to the Special Council. He's basically a ringer 145 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 2: for the argument. Right, So so Sour and Dreaming they 146 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 2: made the argument. So Sour's Trump's gude. By the way, 147 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 2: I thought he was very sharp and very good. Yea, 148 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 2: he did not seem flustered or to stumble to me 149 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 2: one time listening this morning. But the the thing they 150 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:48,559 Speaker 2: agree on, Clay, right, is that there are private acts 151 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 2: for which a president absolutely is criminally liable and has 152 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 2: no immunity. So to what we had discussed, if you 153 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 2: bludge in your secretary with a candlestick in the oval office, correct, 154 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 2: and she's on the ground, you don't get to say, well, 155 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 2: I'm the president, like, no, you are criminally liable, and 156 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 2: there's no there's no question about that. So then it's okay. 157 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 2: There are official acts. And then I said this, this 158 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 2: is a little bit like with police have qualified immunity, right, 159 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 2: they have a specific immunity while they're acting as police 160 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 2: officers as long as they don't break the law and 161 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 2: they're acting in good faith. You can't just like sue 162 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 2: a prosecutor or a police officer. I mean you might, 163 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 2: but it'll get thrown out right away. You have no 164 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 2: grounds unless they've done something that violates their earth. You 165 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:34,679 Speaker 2: can't say I'm suing this prosecutor because they're prosecuting me, right, 166 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 2: that's not because I disagree with their judgment. So we 167 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 2: get into the private versus public Act distinction. And that's 168 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 2: where they started to get really interesting, because fascinating. It 169 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 2: seemed to me that the anti Trump side, dreamin side 170 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 2: the DOJ side under Biden, was saying that even if 171 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 2: you're doing something that could be construed as an official act, 172 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 2: but you're doing it for illicit purpose, a wrongful purpose, 173 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 2: and no reasons, as they would say on The Bachelor, 174 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 2: you're here for the wrong reason. You're here for the 175 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 2: wrong reasons. That's right. You know you are not getting 176 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 2: a rose for this one. Yes, if that is the case, 177 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 2: you can still be held criminally liable for it. What 178 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:20,559 Speaker 2: I thought was really interesting was immediately Sour was kind 179 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 2: of countering this by saying, well, hold on a second. 180 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 2: First of all, if a president can even be forced 181 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 2: to go into a court and defend against these things, 182 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 2: meaning if it's even possible to indict a president for 183 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 2: official acts because of corrupt purpose in the official act, 184 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 2: not anything that is done that is illegal explicitly, but 185 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:44,079 Speaker 2: because you don't like his reasons for doing it, then 186 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 2: you can just constantly throw a president. You know, you 187 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 2: can have prosecutors throwing presidents into the courthouse over and 188 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 2: over again. The whole thing is a mess. So then 189 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 2: we get into the narrowed position, Clay, you know, correct 190 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 2: me or add in here anything if I'm missing it? 191 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 2: Of well, what about a situation where the president knows 192 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 2: that what he's doing is wrong. We can prove he 193 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:08,679 Speaker 2: knew what he was doing was wrong, but the act 194 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 2: itself doesn't violate or the act itself rather would fall 195 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 2: under a presidential power. That's where it's like, ooh, interesting, 196 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 2: am I missing anything here? No, I think this is 197 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:25,559 Speaker 2: one of the most fascinating, difficult, and important Supreme Court 198 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 2: cases maybe on presidential powers that we've ever seen. It 199 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 2: may be the most important and regally no Supreme Court 200 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 2: president on this specific issue. Right, they are forming our 201 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:39,679 Speaker 2: constitutional understanding with this decision. And really, what I think 202 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 2: they're going to say, Buck, is so the easy way 203 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 2: to describe this is they're trying to figure out where 204 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:48,559 Speaker 2: the line is between permissible and impermissible acts as it 205 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 2: goes to a president. We gave two examples to your example. 206 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 2: If the president picks up a paperweight and murders his secretary, 207 00:10:55,840 --> 00:11:00,439 Speaker 2: that's not a presidential act, right, But if a president 208 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 2: here with Trump says, peacefully go up to the Capitol 209 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:08,439 Speaker 2: and it turns into January sixth, and he makes telephone 210 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 2: calls to try to figure out whether or not the 211 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 2: election was or was not on the up and up. 212 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 2: Where is the line where he could be prosecuted? I 213 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 2: think what they're going to say, and and by the way, 214 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 2: let me let me I'm kind of tiptoeing up to 215 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 2: this a little bit because I'm hedging. I guess I 216 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 2: think it's possible they're going to say this was not 217 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 2: criminal and five to four they say he can't be 218 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:34,439 Speaker 2: prosecuted for this, and they're not even going to say 219 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 2: where the exact line is. But I think it's possible 220 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 2: they look at this and say it's possible the president 221 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 2: can be prosecuted. This doesn't rise to that level. This 222 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 2: is protected act within the p number of basic Okay, 223 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 2: so you're going with just to be clear, you're going 224 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 2: with grand slam home run for Trump upper deck because 225 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 2: that's the best possible binary or they could make that decision. 226 00:11:57,240 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 2: I think what they're going to do is say, we're 227 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:04,319 Speaker 2: not sure the president does have some powers, We're not 228 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 2: sure whether this violates it. We're gonna throw it back 229 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 2: to the trial court, and we need the trial court 230 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 2: to analyze whether or not this is within the bounds 231 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 2: of president is what I feel very confident they are 232 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 2: going to do. I think that after hearing the arguments today, 233 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 2: I think that I think door number two there or 234 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 2: possibility number two is what they're going to do. But 235 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:30,439 Speaker 2: they will establish. What is clear from the argument is 236 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 2: presidents can't do anything. So that was a little bit 237 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 2: of a People are saying, well, the president is not, 238 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 2: in fact just above the law as a general concept. Now, 239 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 2: yes that terminality is bought that I don't even know, yes, 240 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 2: but I'm just saying that that the president a president 241 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 2: can be prosecuted. So president can't go out and just 242 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 2: like murder a bunch of people in DC because he's 243 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 2: having a bad day and then say well, I'm the president, 244 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 2: you can't do anything about it. That's actually not what 245 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 2: this and neither side holds that, to be clear. It's 246 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 2: just when the president is doing president stuff, and we 247 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 2: have to be able to turn presently in office. This 248 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 2: is important too, because it doesn't carry on after he's 249 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 2: out of office, right, But if he's doing president's stuff 250 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 2: while he is in office, unless he commits an illegal act, 251 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 2: which would then fall under private this is where they 252 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 2: get into bribery, right. Bribery to appoint a ambassador was 253 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 2: one of the areas they really dug into. So if 254 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 2: somebody says, hey, I want to be ambassador to what 255 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 2: would be your favorite country to be ambassador too? That's 256 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:35,719 Speaker 2: a fantastic question. You know, I think Italy would be 257 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 2: really cool. I mean, England would obviously be awesome. That'd 258 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 2: be easy Italy England, and maybe if you just really want, 259 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 2: like the Bahamas is probably not a bad place to 260 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 2: be an ambassador. I feel don't have any real power 261 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 2: you want to be, Australia would be pretty great. So 262 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,199 Speaker 2: so if my friend Klay Travis decides, you know what, 263 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 2: I don't like doing this huge radio show. I just 264 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 2: want to go and chill. I'm going to give a 265 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:58,959 Speaker 2: bag of ten million dollars to future President so and 266 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:03,839 Speaker 2: so to become the ambassador to Turks and Caicos. If 267 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 2: you were to do this, I'd be in prison quickly. 268 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 2: They are probably with the definitely you get a long 269 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 2: prison sentence there. But if you were to do this, 270 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 2: clearly the bribery is a criminal act, even though it 271 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 2: has to do with a presidential prerogative. So This is 272 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 2: how they're trying to separate it out. The problem that 273 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 2: they run into with the Trump situation is there's no 274 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 2: him saying you know, and we're getting into the details 275 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 2: of the whole electors uh and and you know, election challenge, 276 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 2: the elector's election challenge, just because they don't like it, 277 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 2: and they don't like the judgment Trump exercised in it. 278 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 2: If it falls under a presidential power, they're saying he 279 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 2: can't be prosecuted for. It's sort of like, you know, 280 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 2: if the president lies to the American people and gets 281 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 2: us into a war, for example, not prosecutable. Yeah, because 282 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 2: the lie is not the lie is not a crime. 283 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 2: If the president's like, you know, I think these guys 284 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 2: are going to attack us tomorrow and he said, all right, 285 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 2: we're running. We're running. Important. But also factor in here 286 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 2: is if the president really does something so egregious, that's 287 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 2: what impeachment exists for. So the idea that the president 288 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 2: is not accountable is I think the impeachment power exists 289 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 2: for that exact reason. 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We'll bring you the latest on that. 317 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 2: More deep diving into whether Trump's immunity claims will be 318 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 2: upheld or what does this mean for the prosecution the 319 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 2: DOJJ six trial. A lot of stuff, but just take 320 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 2: a moment here, Trump saying that he thinks he is 321 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 2: putting New York, the state of in play for this election. 322 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 2: Listen to this play nine. 323 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 3: Very close in New York. I understand that we're leading 324 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 3: in the country by a lot. Pole just came out 325 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:07,719 Speaker 3: a little while ago, as you saw yesterday that we 326 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 3: were up in every swing state and up by a 327 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 3: lot in every swing state. So I think we're gonna 328 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 3: do very well, and we're gonna make a play for 329 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 3: New York. It's they said, I just heard. There was 330 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 3: a very good poll came out. Normally a Democrat will 331 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 3: win New York. Biden is the worst president in history, 332 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 3: and we have some very bad people here, but we 333 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 3: have the greatest people and they're right behind me, and 334 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 3: they all want us to run and we're gonna we're 335 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:30,679 Speaker 3: gonna run very hard in New York, New York. We 336 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 3: have a good chance of winning New York in my opinion, 337 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 3: but we're gonna give it a shot. 338 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 2: That's a that's a bold statement. 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Dial pound two five zero 365 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 2: say Clay and Buck. 366 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:58,640 Speaker 1: Slay, Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines of true. 367 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:01,400 Speaker 2: Okay, let's dive back in to the Supreme Court case 368 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 2: right now on presidential powers that is currently being heard. 369 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 2: This is really important and I don't know that you 370 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 2: will hear it enough as it pertains the discussion surrounding this. 371 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 2: I understand that all the bright lights are flashing Trump, Trump, Trump, 372 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 2: and everybody is focused on the particular aspects of this 373 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 2: case as it pertains to Donald Trump. But here is 374 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 2: what I would tell you. I guarantee is a huge 375 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 2: consideration of the Supreme Court. The precedent that is being 376 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 2: set here. I've used this aphorism before on the show, 377 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,199 Speaker 2: because I think it applies so well, particularly in this 378 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:44,880 Speaker 2: point in time where everything it feels is so monumental 379 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 2: and massive in stake. We have this sort of Goldfish 380 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 2: era of view of history where everything is the biggest 381 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 2: thing that's ever happened, and you have to take a 382 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 2: step back and contemplate where it actually stands in history. 383 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 2: And let me give you an example that came out today. 384 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 2: Harvey Weinstein's conviction in New York City got tossed. A 385 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 2: lot of you may not have seen this, the me 386 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 2: too case against Harvey Weinstein that everybody focused on in 387 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 2: New York, the rape sexual assault conviction of Harvey Weinstein 388 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 2: tossed does not exist anymore. It's going to have to 389 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 2: go back to trial now. He was convicted in Los 390 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 2: Angeles too, so he will remain in prison based on 391 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 2: the conviction in Los Angeles. But if they hadn't convicted 392 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 2: him in Los Angeles, buck he would walk free. Harvey Weinstein, 393 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 2: who everybody decided was the worst human being who had 394 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 2: ever existed. The New York Court of Criminal Appeals looked 395 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 2: at the evidence and said, this was the trial judge 396 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 2: handled this inappropriately. There was evidence introduced, and again I'm 397 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 2: summarizing evidence introduced that should not have been and his 398 00:20:54,440 --> 00:21:00,040 Speaker 2: conviction is tossed. Egregiously wrong, I believe, was what the 399 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 2: judge found on the appeals court found on this. And 400 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 2: I would just note, and this is by no means 401 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 2: a you know, I don't even I can't even remember. 402 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:11,959 Speaker 2: All I know is Harvey Weinstein. It's interesting, isn't it. 403 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 2: What do I remember? Harvey Weinstein bad, you know, abusing women. 404 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 2: I can't remember the specifics of what he did. It 405 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 2: was years ago, right, or what he allegedly did, but 406 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 2: I do know that it was absolutely peak me too moment. 407 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:31,719 Speaker 2: And even if you have somebody who is guilty, and 408 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:33,679 Speaker 2: you know whether Harvey Weinstein's really you know, he's been 409 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:35,479 Speaker 2: found guilty a couple of times. I think he probably 410 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 2: is guilty of some very bad things. But even when 411 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 2: you have somebody who's guilty, you're not supposed to stack 412 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 2: the deck. And even me, as a non lawyer knows. 413 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 2: Hold on a second. They let other women testify at 414 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 2: his rape trial that had nothing to do with the 415 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,479 Speaker 2: rape that he was being tried for. Like, you know, 416 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 2: you can just be somebody who watches Law and Order 417 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 2: and be like, I don't think that's how this goes. 418 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 2: You can't introduce other testimony for completely, you know, irrelevant 419 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 2: incidents to the incident that you're on trial for like that, 420 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 2: And at that point, true, there's an exception if the 421 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:16,120 Speaker 2: act is so specific in nature that it is, it's 422 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 2: an evidentiary issue. They blew it, okay, So on that case, 423 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 2: I don't even know that they needed the additional testimony. 424 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,640 Speaker 2: It's a huge deal for the appeals court to say 425 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 2: we're overturning a jury verdict in another case and saying 426 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 2: he needs a new trial. So they didn't blow this 427 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 2: by a little bit, is my point. They blew this 428 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 2: one big time. And what's also important about this, did 429 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,120 Speaker 2: you hear anybody predict that they were going to overturn 430 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 2: this case? Nobody would even defend hardly Harvey Weinstein because 431 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 2: they were afraid that they would get tainted with the 432 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 2: me too assertion. So if you even said, hey, regardless 433 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,360 Speaker 2: of what you think about Harvey Weinstein, we need a 434 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 2: precedent and procedure that is applied evenly to all criminal 435 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 2: defendants and if they are accused of heinous ax and 436 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 2: I go back to John Adams defended the Boston Tea 437 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:10,159 Speaker 2: Party massacre. Guys, that is a historical precedent that everybody, 438 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 2: even people accused of hanous acts, deserve the protections of 439 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 2: the court. So the reason why I bring this up 440 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 2: is the Supreme Court is, yes, Trump matters, but the 441 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 2: Supreme Court is looking far beyond Trump and they are saying, 442 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 2: whatever law we craft here is going to be used 443 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 2: against every president for the rest of our lives. And 444 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 2: so if we say Trump can be prosecuted for these 445 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 2: acts which occurred while he was in office that he 446 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 2: claims are directly related to the powers of the presidency, 447 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 2: other prosecutors are going to use this case to prosecute 448 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 2: future presidents for acts that occurred while they were in office. 449 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 2: And so I think what's going on here is I 450 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 2: think the Supreme Court remember the Thomas Jefferson saucer cooling 451 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 2: the idea was the Senate when it's a FAMOUSAI out. Yeah, sure, 452 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 2: I think the Supreme Court is going to try to 453 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 2: chill this out. And I think what they're going to 454 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 2: say is they're going to say president clearly has powers 455 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 2: to avoid criminal prosecution. We are going to say something 456 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,159 Speaker 2: like five to four, although it may be six to 457 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 2: three that that we're going to toss this back without 458 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 2: making specific factual evidentiary findings here back to Chutkin to 459 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 2: guarantee basically that this case does not get decided before 460 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 2: voters go out and are able to make choices in 461 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 2: November for Trump. So based on the hearing this morning, 462 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,360 Speaker 2: and I think it's still going on. So again, we're 463 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,439 Speaker 2: alive on the air, so there could be questions that 464 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:51,199 Speaker 2: change my perceptions on this, but based on what I 465 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 2: listened to this morning, I think that there is increasingly 466 00:24:55,920 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 2: a highly unlikely chance that any other case is even 467 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 2: close to going to a jury for a verdict other 468 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 2: than New York before this and buck looking at the 469 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 2: Harvey Weinstein case, I'll reiterate, I think, whatever verdict, if 470 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 2: Trump is found guilty in New York, I think in 471 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 2: two years or three years, I think it's going to 472 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 2: get tossed in New York City as well. I'm cautiously 473 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 2: optimistic based on the Supreme Court of Appeals in New 474 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 2: York being willing to weigh in here and even defend 475 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 2: Harvey Weinstein's procedural safeguards. I'm more convinced that this is 476 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 2: going to get tossed on appeal regardless of what happens here. 477 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 2: So I think this is a very good day for Trump. 478 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 2: But I think it's important to remember that while everybody's 479 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 2: focused right now, the bright shiny lights are Trump, there 480 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,640 Speaker 2: are presidents for the next one hundred years, two hundred years, 481 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 2: hopefully a thousand years of American life that will be 482 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 2: held accountable based on the decision that the Supreme Court 483 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 2: makes on this. Also the case that you could have 484 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 2: if this were to be let's just say, wrongly decided, 485 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 2: and this was part of the discussions the Court was 486 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:11,919 Speaker 2: having this morning. If it was wrongly decided, which I 487 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 2: don't think is going to happen, but it would result 488 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:19,920 Speaker 2: in a situation where the political opposition could effectively nullify 489 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 2: any presidency they want to. I mean, they could, like 490 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:28,160 Speaker 2: the Liliputians against Gulliver, just tie you down with endless 491 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 2: petty prosecutions because of state of mind corruption for even 492 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 2: official acts. Right. So this is where you get to 493 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:38,679 Speaker 2: the people who would say things like Bush should be 494 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 2: tried for war crimes. If Bush could be tried for 495 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 2: war crimes, meaning you know, pushing for war in iroc 496 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,679 Speaker 2: or whatever. The presidency is effectively over. And the people 497 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 2: that shout those things don't really think that through. But 498 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 2: that's the reality. If you could try somebody for I 499 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 2: don't like the decision they made, and I think they 500 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,120 Speaker 2: made it for the wrong reasons, but what they did 501 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 2: was was in the scope of presidential decision making, the 502 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 2: presidency is over. I mean those are the you know, 503 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,120 Speaker 2: the stakes, not just for Trump, but your point about 504 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 2: the precedent. So that's why you're I think you're right. 505 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,160 Speaker 2: They're gonna try to cool things down, and I think 506 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 2: they're going to try to, you know, take minimal steps here, 507 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,959 Speaker 2: narrowly tailored things from the Supreme Court on down, because 508 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 2: you go too far in one direction. What is off 509 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,880 Speaker 2: the table? Now from the Democrat point of view, they've 510 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 2: already got four prosecutions against Trump. We haven't even mentioned that. 511 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:31,679 Speaker 2: Arizona just released another version of like the the you know, 512 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 2: fake Electors prosecution, and they've named Mark Meadows the chief 513 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 2: of staff under the Trump White House. The whole cast. 514 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 2: I can't remember all their names, like a dozen of them. Yes, 515 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,919 Speaker 2: I think someone from Turning Point is mentioned in this. 516 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 2: Even like they got all these people yeah, that are 517 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 2: being prosecuted by the State ag of Arizona. They left 518 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,719 Speaker 2: Trump out, but he's an unindicted co conspiracor they talk 519 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 2: about undedded conspirators. Clayton. Now that's the fifth This is 520 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 2: a fifth criminal trial going on about twenty twenty, and 521 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 2: a fifth criminal trial timed and delayed for the timing 522 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 2: to happen in an election year in a swing state, 523 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:08,919 Speaker 2: in a swing state, exactly in a swing state. So 524 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 2: what what is off the table for them now? I 525 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 2: think the other thing about this that we should mention 526 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 2: on the Supreme Court. And by the way it just ended, 527 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 2: Julie Kelly is going to join us. She listened to 528 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 2: the whole thing. She's been fantastic covering a lot of 529 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 2: these cases. She's going to join us at one thirty Eastern. 530 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 2: So in the next hour we'll get her read having 531 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 2: heard every minute of this, because you and I have 532 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 2: been on the air for the last forty five minutes 533 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 2: of the argument. Also mention this this would end the 534 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 2: Atlanta case, even though the Atlanta case is a state prosecution. 535 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 2: In addition to Jack Smith's charges that he brought in DC, 536 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 2: what they are considering in today's hearing would also basically 537 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 2: knock out Atlanta in the state of Georgia, and it 538 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 2: would knock out to a large extent, although Trump's not 539 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 2: indicted himself, I think it would knock out to a 540 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 2: large extent what's going on in air Arizona. Now those 541 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 2: are state cases. So what you would have is New 542 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 2: York City pre exists. I think again, I think it's garbage. 543 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 2: I think it'll get tossed on appeal. New York City 544 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:14,959 Speaker 2: is pre exists. The crime there and the crime in 545 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 2: South Florida allegation is a post presidential crime. Now I 546 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 2: don't think that that one's going to go either. But again, 547 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 2: I think the biggest takeaway here, and we'll hear from Julie, 548 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 2: is I don't think there's any way that the federal 549 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 2: charges cases are going to happen before we all go 550 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 2: vote November fifth. So I was interested while we were 551 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 2: in the break, I just wanted to note that the 552 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 2: back to the Harvey Weinstein thing, cause that can we 553 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 2: just say if we didn't have Trump Supreme Court going 554 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 2: on Trump on trial in New York City going on 555 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 2: Arizona State ag prosecuting Trump associates for the Harvey Weinstein 556 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 2: reversed a huge story, would be a huge story on 557 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 2: any other day. But I look this up as to 558 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 2: the point you're making. I was just saying, if you're 559 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 2: just a law and order watcher, you would kind of 560 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 2: know they're very They call them a malyna like Malyna 561 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 2: exceptions yea, or rather the maln no precedent and the 562 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 2: exceptions of it. It would be you can introduce evidence 563 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 2: for a crime not charged to establish motive intent, the 564 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 2: absence of mistake, a common scheme or plan embracing the commission. 565 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 2: I think this as you were getting to of two 566 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 2: or more crimes related to each other. Yeah, so it's 567 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 2: a weird it's a weird attempt you're trying. It's generally 568 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 2: would be hearsay, right, it would be not permissible to 569 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 2: introduce this evidence. The point is even reading these exceptions, No, 570 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 2: they just this guy was like the pinnacle of me too, 571 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 2: and he's a disgusting, horrible human being, and the judges 572 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 2: were like, you know, baring him under the prison basically, 573 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 2: And I think I'm correct. I haven't. Let's be honest, 574 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 2: I have not paid a ton of attention to the 575 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 2: Harvey Weinstein cases ever, but certainly not in years. I 576 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 2: believe that also is an example of them changing the 577 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 2: statute of limitations in New York because I think a 578 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 2: lot of the charges they brought they were able to 579 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 2: bring back. This is in the decision they redissssed. Right, 580 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 2: this Supreme State Supreme Court decision is actually I did 581 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 2: a rapid scan. How fast can you read one of 582 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 2: these things? I tried it in about three minutes. But 583 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 2: they did get into English common law and the difference 584 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 2: between the French system and the English system. For anybody 585 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 2: wants to know, and the French system, all of you 586 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 2: is on trial. So anything you know you were a bad, 587 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 2: bad person twenty years ago, you do something today that 588 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 2: can be introduced because it goes to what kind of 589 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 2: a person you are? English common law says no, only 590 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 2: the offense that you are charged for. But then we 591 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 2: get into Molly no and these exceptions. Right, the time 592 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 2: barring issue. They addressed that specifically, and they've decided that 593 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 2: he was outside the state for long enough periods of 594 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 2: time during that period of time. Oh, that's such a garbage. 595 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 2: I knew you weren't gonna like that one that I 596 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 2: don't agree with the general idea of a of a 597 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 2: statute of limitations is people memory gets way worse over time, 598 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 2: and also so you can't defend yourself over a period 599 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 2: of time, and the older really is murder. And then 600 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 2: there are a bunch of other like high federal crimes. 601 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 2: But honestly, even a lot of those high federal crimes, 602 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 2: if you looked at them, like, very hard to defend 603 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 2: yourself with against an espionage charge from you know, thirty years. Yeah, 604 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 2: I mean the Egen Carol is a great example. They 605 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 2: don't know when the year was, They don't know, Like, 606 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 2: how do you defend yourself from an allegation that has 607 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 2: no rooting in particular time and place. If you say, hey, 608 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 2: whoever you are listening out there right now, you sexually 609 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 2: assaulted me at some point in the last twenty years. 610 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 2: And you're like, well, where, Well we're not sure what year, 611 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 2: We're not sure. Well, how about witnesses? There are none? 612 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 2: What are you talking about? 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They don't 663 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,280 Speaker 2: like it when they're called anti Semitic for obvious reasons. 664 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 2: They don't like even being called I think anti Israel. 665 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 2: What do they think they are protesting? Because really they 666 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:28,320 Speaker 2: just object to everything Israel is doing in Gaza and 667 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,320 Speaker 2: to defend itself. But I wonder how they would self describe. 668 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 2: Are they they're pro Palestinian? That's what these protests I 669 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 2: guess would be, because then the distinction comes in with 670 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 2: well are you pro Hamas? But anyway, yes, I'd want 671 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:40,799 Speaker 2: to ask them, and I want to say if you're 672 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 2: if you're pro Palestinian, are you anti Hamas? Because if 673 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 2: you're anti Hamas, I'm not hearing anything about that. But 674 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 2: so if you're just pro across the board, aren't you 675 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 2: kind of supportive of Hamas? Then too there are some 676 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:53,840 Speaker 2: I would have many questions Clay, but they have a 677 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 2: campus cracked down underway for sure. And oh, I can't 678 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,759 Speaker 2: believe with the music we long I was gonna all right, 679 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,799 Speaker 2: let me gear up with some crocketcoffee Crocketcoffee dot com. 680 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 2: How many of you have subscribed? A lot? 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