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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back again now or number two

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Speaker 1: Clay Travis buck Sexton Monday edition of the program. As always,

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Speaker 1: clips going up, like we said, every single day on YouTube.

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Speaker 1: So a lot of different stories we have already talked about.

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Speaker 1: I thought this one was fascinating because I bet the

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Speaker 1: vast majority of you have not heard anything about this story.

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Speaker 1: Let me give you some details. Greenwood Park Mall is

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Speaker 1: outside of Indianapolis. I know we got a lot of

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Speaker 1: listeners in the Indianapolis area. We appreciate all of you.

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Speaker 1: A twenty two year old Indiana man being called a hero.

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Speaker 1: I'm reading directly from OutKick because you're probably not seeing

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Speaker 1: this story very many places. A gunman opened fire in

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Speaker 1: the mall's food court, killed three people, one woman, two

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Speaker 1: men injured. Two others would have continued to fire, had

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Speaker 1: a ton of ammunition with him until a good samaritan

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Speaker 1: pulled out his own concealed weapon and killed this mass shooter. Yes,

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Speaker 1: a good guy with a gun killed a bad guy

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Speaker 1: citizen that was lawfully carrying a firearm in that food

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Speaker 1: court and was able to stop the shooter almost as

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Speaker 1: soon as he began that as Greenwood Police Chief Jim Eison.

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Speaker 1: Greenwood Mayor Mark Myers joined the police chief, also commending

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Speaker 1: the actions of the good guy with a gun. We

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Speaker 1: do know that someone we are calling a good samaritan

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Speaker 1: was able to shoot the assailant and stop further bloodshed.

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Speaker 1: This person saved lives tonight, the mayor said, I am

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Speaker 1: grateful for his quick action and heroism. So if you

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Speaker 1: out there are listening right now, and he's so, wait,

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Speaker 1: I didn't know there was a mass shooting in Greenwood, Indiana.

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Speaker 1: I didn't have any clue that this mall shooter existed

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Speaker 1: and that he was stopped by a good guy with

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Speaker 1: a gun. I would submit to you, Buck, and you

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Speaker 1: were partly in this camp, right. We were talking off

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Speaker 1: It's the story almost completely vanished as soon as they

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Speaker 1: found out a good guy with a gun ended it. Right.

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Speaker 1: Isn't this a moment where the media could tell a

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Speaker 1: story to elevate a brave citizen, an armed citizen. I

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Speaker 1: know there are people who who were hit in this attack,

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Speaker 1: and that's that's a tragedy, but it would have been

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Speaker 1: far worse, Yes, if a good guy with the gun

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Speaker 1: there are other there are other instances like this, and

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Speaker 1: some of them even captured on video. I'm sure our audience,

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Speaker 1: our audience will remember back in twenty nineteen, December twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 1: right away. Saved dozens of lives in that instance. Now,

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Speaker 1: lives here they bury it, Clay. But to your point,

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Speaker 1: And the left and Libs say that their opposition of

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Speaker 1: don't want you to have guns. It's really not about

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Speaker 1: stopping the next mass shooting because they don't even look

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Speaker 1: at what stops mass shootings. I had to tell our

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Speaker 1: crew at OutKick, and I still manage a lot of

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Speaker 1: the editorial decisions that are made at OutKick on a

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Speaker 1: daily basis. Hey, let's get on this. Most of the

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Speaker 1: people at OutKick didn't know about this story. And if

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Speaker 1: So covering a mass shooting in the first place. As Buck,

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Speaker 1: we have talked about, only about one percent of the

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Speaker 1: Clear Politics put it out and it's certainly true. On

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be like the Wild West. No, it just

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Speaker 1: a horrific mass shooting. And also Clay comes when we're

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Speaker 1: finding out even more the Uvalday thing. The people that

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Speaker 1: State Representative Dustin Burroughs saying that they just should have

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Speaker 1: that the government is really still protecting them. San Diego County,

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Speaker 1: which I know it's summer session, but schools masks are

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Speaker 1: back today in schools there, folks. Los Angeles County is

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Speaker 1: like ten days away from a full on mask mandate.

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Speaker 1: New York City not far behind. Are not very smart

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Speaker 1: mayor not very smart at all, is a big believer

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Speaker 1: in masks in New York City. So this is where

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Speaker 1: we're heading. And when we get into the cycle of

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Speaker 1: of COVID that's going to go through the country, it

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Speaker 1: will result and I think their restoration by Biden of

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Speaker 1: the mask mandate because if they if they get crushed

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Speaker 1: in the midterms, the game is over for them anyway, right,

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Speaker 1: So they're just going to try to abuse executive authority

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Speaker 1: wherever they can. But we we do that there is

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Speaker 1: some good news on this. Do you want to hold there?

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Speaker 1: There's a doctor in LA there's some good news. I

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Speaker 1: while all of these mandates are going to be rolling out,

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Speaker 1: the one positive in addition to the audio that we're

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Speaker 1: about to play you is most we don't know a

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Speaker 1: total count of COVID because most people have just stopped testing.

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Speaker 1: That that, I would say, is one small measure of

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Speaker 1: gotten a flu test in my life. I know I've

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Speaker 1: had the flu several times. Most people in America are

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Speaker 1: now done with testing. They're just saying, screw it. If

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Speaker 1: some we often have some honestly, some some just great

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Speaker 1: the data fearlessly, like Alex Barrinson back on Twitter. There

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Speaker 1: are some other voices that we are starting to hear

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Speaker 1: the beginnings of it to say, guys, we really can't

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Speaker 1: So we want to encourage and Clay, I know you've

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Speaker 1: Sexton show. We are joined by our good friend as

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Speaker 1: Senator Johnson from the great state of Wisconsin. He's been

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Speaker 1: down to the border. We'll get to that in a sect.

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Speaker 1: But Senator Johnson, I gotta say, everyone who is trying

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Speaker 1: to run against you from the Democrat Party in Wisconsin

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Speaker 1: refuse to answer whether they believed I'm not making this up.

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Speaker 1: If men could get pregnant, I really think whenever you

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Speaker 1: have your debate against whoever this chump is who they

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Speaker 1: put forward. If you just stay a bunch of times,

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Speaker 1: can you just answer the question once and for all,

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Speaker 1: Yes or no? Can men get pregnant? I can't imagine

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Speaker 1: that Wisconsin's going to vote for a senator who believes

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Speaker 1: that men can get pregnant. Just that issue alone crystallizes

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Speaker 1: how crazy the Democrats have become. Well, it just illustrates

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Speaker 1: how insane political discourse is today. By and large, I

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Speaker 1: think that to hold issue was meant to be a

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Speaker 1: hit job on me. Yeah, we're actually saying that. You know,

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Speaker 1: really I hate to say this, but you know, men

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Speaker 1: can't get pregnant. Here's the news flash. But it's listen.

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Speaker 1: Our state of our politics is depressing. Clare. Honestly, did

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Speaker 1: you ever believe you'd be running, You'd be running for

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Speaker 1: the Senate and one of the issues that you would

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Speaker 1: be debating with your Democrat opponent would be whether men

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Speaker 1: could get pregnant or not. No, there's a whole issues

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Speaker 1: that I don't think we ever thought we'd have to defend,

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Speaker 1: like let's say, the basic benefit of the nuclear family,

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Speaker 1: that we'd have to actually, you know, argue for that,

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Speaker 1: that we shouldn't be indoctrinating our children in school, that

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Speaker 1: we shouldn't be allowing schools to for example, inject gendered

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Speaker 1: blocking drugs in our children without parental consent. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's so many issues the lectors pushing, you know, men,

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Speaker 1: biological men competing against women. It never even crossed our

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Speaker 1: minds if that would ever become a political issue, but

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Speaker 1: that's what the radical lector is pushing on America. I

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Speaker 1: hope Americans don't think this is normalized. It's this kind

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Speaker 1: of behavior, these types of issues aren't normal. Senator Johnson's buck,

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Speaker 1: I know you just were at the border, and we

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Speaker 1: try to do as much as we can here on

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Speaker 1: the show to keep everybody up to speed and up

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Speaker 1: to date on what's happening at the porous Biden border

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Speaker 1: right now. I remember going myself years ago into a

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Speaker 1: San Diego sector right next to Tijuana, and I was

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Speaker 1: asking for some what's really going on here, and they're saying, well,

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Speaker 1: you know, the unaccompanied miners. We had an unccompanied miner

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Speaker 1: who was thirty two who claimed to be seventeen. I mean,

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Speaker 1: just to give a sense of what kind of scams

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Speaker 1: were being wrong and what was really happening, what were

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Speaker 1: some of the things that you saw, I mean, what

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Speaker 1: were some of the stories the takeaways from your time

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Speaker 1: at the border as it's being overrun right now by

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Speaker 1: lawlessness and lawlessness and illegality. Well, you know, I've made

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Speaker 1: so many trips to the border, but you always learned

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Speaker 1: something new, You see something more profoundly disturbing. But you

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Speaker 1: past the basic statistics. For example, over three million people

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Speaker 1: and encountered at the border since Joe Biden took office.

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Speaker 1: That's more than six thousand people per day, a large

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Speaker 1: caravan per day. We had a briefing, you do a

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Speaker 1: back of the envelope calculation. You realize just the people

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Speaker 1: encountered is about an eighteen point three billion dollars per

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Speaker 1: year business This is what binds open border policy. It's

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Speaker 1: facilitying a multi billion dollars eighteen point three billion dollar

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Speaker 1: year business model and some of the most evil people

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Speaker 1: on the planet. Okay, but let me talk about help

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Speaker 1: profoundly disturbing. This is you can hear the statistics, you

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Speaker 1: can see the pictures, but until you're actually on the

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Speaker 1: border and you see a group of migrants come, a

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Speaker 1: couple of women, a bunch of young people. You are

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Speaker 1: introduced to a little six year old and seven year

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Speaker 1: old girl. That is that are unaccompanied, that all they

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Speaker 1: have is a little plastic bag with their birth certificate

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Speaker 1: and an out card with a phone number and address.

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Speaker 1: That's it. That's the only thing that connects them to

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Speaker 1: somebody that apparently they know in the US. They was

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Speaker 1: that piece of paper and they're just lost. And then

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Speaker 1: Bill Bill, a Fox News reporter, was there on the

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Speaker 1: scene and he's been doing you know Bill, Yeah, he

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Speaker 1: does fantastic work, Yeah, Bill. Bill mulugan was telling us

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Speaker 1: that at that same spot, not two in the distance past,

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Speaker 1: two similar age girls were being treated by CBP because

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Speaker 1: they just then brutally raped, and we were looking at

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Speaker 1: six and seven year old little girl. One thing I

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Speaker 1: found out we all found about never heard this one before.

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Speaker 1: They the human trappers will taunt a border customers of

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Speaker 1: Border Patrol about how completely important they are because of

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Speaker 1: Biden's open border policy with what they call either a

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Speaker 1: taunting tree or a rape tree or a panty tree,

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Speaker 1: which is basically what they do is a they just

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Speaker 1: put the panties as some woman they've or girl that

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Speaker 1: they've sexually assaulted on a tree, load that tree up

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Speaker 1: just to taunt. Tustin's Border Control say there's nothing you

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Speaker 1: can do to stop us. It's sick. You know. The

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Speaker 1: other thing people need to realize that the word is

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Speaker 1: on the Mexican side. Nobody's crossing the border without paying

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Speaker 1: that human trafficking fee to again, some of the most

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Speaker 1: evil people on the planet. So we could control the

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Speaker 1: border if there was any will on the part of

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Speaker 1: this administration do so, and of course there's not. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this administration wants open border policies with all the human depredations,

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Speaker 1: the rapes, the deadly drugs, the sex trafficking, the involuntary servitude,

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Speaker 1: the beatings. I mean, it's it's it's horrific. And of

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Speaker 1: course the mainstream media is by and large ignoring it,

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Speaker 1: you know, other than for people like Bill Malougan and

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Speaker 1: a few other news outlets, this radio program, it's just

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Speaker 1: not being covered. It's being covered up by the mainstream

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Speaker 1: the complicity incorrupt mainstream media. We're talking to Senator Ron

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Speaker 1: Johnson from Wisconsin. Senator. In addition to your trip to

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Speaker 1: the border and the battles that you are fighting there,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you saw that doctor Fauci said he will

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Speaker 1: be retiring by January of twenty twenty five, and Buck

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Speaker 1: and I've already been talking about that. It's far too

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Speaker 1: long to allow him to be in office for that

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Speaker 1: much longer. But I want to know if you and

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Speaker 1: the Republicans take back control of the Senate, and we

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Speaker 1: feel very good about Republicans taking back control of the House,

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Speaker 1: what will that mean to doctor Fauci when he wakes

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Speaker 1: up in January of twenty twenty three. Well, I think

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Speaker 1: he will resign on the spot because he's not going

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Speaker 1: to want the truth revealed. I've written something like over

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Speaker 1: forty oversight letters in some aspect of COVID where gotten responses.

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Speaker 1: They're non responsive response, they're not really answering the questions.

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Speaker 1: Right now, we are going through four hundred pages of

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Speaker 1: the four thousand emails that were foy it and delivered

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Speaker 1: heavily redacted. We've identified four hundred pages we want to look,

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Speaker 1: you know, review, unredacted. We're not Congress is not subject

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Speaker 1: to redactions. The problem is AHHS wouldn't give those two us.

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Speaker 1: They finally agreed to allow us to look at these

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Speaker 1: in a reading room, unredacted, no copies made, just taken

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Speaker 1: notes fifty pages at a time. It's been a six

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Speaker 1: month process going through about three hundred fifty pages, we're down.

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Speaker 1: The will last fifty pages. They will not give us

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Speaker 1: those last fifty pages unredacted. I mean, I'm sure that's

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Speaker 1: where the real incriminating information resides. Just just like with

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Speaker 1: the Fiser documents, you know they're releasing those in ninety

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Speaker 1: thousand page tranches. I can tell you that the real

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Speaker 1: incriminating information in terms of the trials that were not

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Speaker 1: robust as they should have been. I'm sure that the

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Speaker 1: worst information for Fiser is gonna come out in the

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Speaker 1: last Speaking to Senator Ron Johnson, Senator, we know that

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Speaker 1: your race is a critical one coming up here for

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Speaker 1: the Senate, and wanted to want to tell everybody they

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Speaker 1: want to help, they want to get involved. We're number

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Speaker 1: one in Milwaukee. We've got people listening all across the state.

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Speaker 1: Where should they go? Ron Johnson for Senate dot Com.

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Speaker 1: They've already spent forty four million dollars against me and

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Speaker 1: I don't even have an opponent yet resolved in dark money.

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Speaker 1: life more with Relief Factor. Welcome back, Clay Travis and

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Speaker 1: Buck Sexton show still going strong, my friends. We have

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Speaker 1: Stephen Miller with us now former senior advisor to President

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Speaker 1: Trump and president of America First Legal. Stephen, great to

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Speaker 1: have you back on the program. It's great to be back.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. So you're on the front lines of the

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Speaker 1: legal fight in so many ways, but I wanted you

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Speaker 1: to tell everybody about what America First Legal is doing

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Speaker 1: when it comes to when it comes to places like

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Speaker 1: Dick Sporting Goods offering benefits to employees who abort their children,

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Speaker 1: but not offering equivalent benefits to mothers who actually give birth.

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Speaker 1: Tell us about this. Yeah, So, America First Legal recently

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Speaker 1: launched a new effort to go after Wike Corporations for

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Speaker 1: violating the Civil rights of their employees and the American

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Speaker 1: people in general. And tragically, Dick Sporting Goods is at

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Speaker 1: the leading edge of the will corruption of corporate America,

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Speaker 1: and they have announced a policy which provide a four

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Speaker 1: thousand dollars subsidy to pregnant mothers who abort or terminate

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Speaker 1: the child living inside their womb, but no equivalent such

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Speaker 1: benefit to pregnant mothers who choose to allow that child

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Speaker 1: to continue living and ultimately be born, which violates federal

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Speaker 1: civil rights law, specifically Title seven of the US Civil

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Speaker 1: Rights Act, as amended by the Pregnancy Discrimination Act, which

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Speaker 1: forbids discrimination against pregnant moms, and obviously, by financially incentivizing

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Speaker 1: pregnant moms to terminate the baby, they are discriminating in

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Speaker 1: an illegal way against those mothers. Dick Sporting Goods also

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Speaker 1: has adopted a formal published system of racial quotas in

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Speaker 1: making decisions about hiring in promotion, which again facially violates

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Speaker 1: US federal civil rights law, and so Dick's CEOs or

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Speaker 1: Dick's executives and EO and corporate leaders are all engaged

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Speaker 1: in this scheme to break the law and violate the

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Speaker 1: rights of their employees. So we filed a formal federal

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Speaker 1: rights law to hopefully initiate action against exporting Goods for

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Speaker 1: violating all of these various federal laws. And I would

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Speaker 1: also say to everyone listening today, if you are an

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Speaker 1: employee of disporting goods, if you know someone who is

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Speaker 1: an employee, please contact us at af legal dot org.

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Speaker 1: That's af legal dot org so that we can potentially

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Speaker 1: represent you if facts worn. Steve, this is amazing the

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Speaker 1: work that you're doing, because on the one hand, if

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Speaker 1: you take a step back, this is one of the

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Speaker 1: most craven business moves I've ever seen. Because if you

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Speaker 1: have a baby, you are pregnant and you have to

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Speaker 1: which is why we have protection for pregnant moms. You are,

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Speaker 1: you're working through your pregnancy. You typically are taking time

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Speaker 1: off after you have a baby. When they are paying

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Speaker 1: people to have abortions, they're basically ensuring that they almost

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Speaker 1: have no lost work days, right. I mean, on the

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Speaker 1: one hand, if you go back and actually you look

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Speaker 1: at this, it's it's like, wow, this is incredibly craven,

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Speaker 1: and so that an it's the most self it's the

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Speaker 1: most self interested, cold blooded bottom line calculation you can imagine,

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Speaker 1: which is basically, you're not going to miss time for

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Speaker 1: your Obi Julian appointments. You're not gonna miss time or

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Speaker 1: labor and deliver, You're not gonna miss time for bonding

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Speaker 1: with a new kids. You're just gonna keep showing up.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna grind it out in our stores or in

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Speaker 1: the corporate ladder, and you're not going to miss a day.

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Speaker 1: And so we're basically going to save money by paying

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Speaker 1: you to have an abortion. It's really sick stuff. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and so that part I think of this this lawsuit

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Speaker 1: is utterly wild. But also I'm curious what you expect.

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Speaker 1: Buck and I have talked someone this show about the

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court finally taking back up affirmative action, and you

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Speaker 1: mentioned civil rights violations predicated on hiring or firing based

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Speaker 1: on race or not permitted under United States law. What

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Speaker 1: do you think is going to happen when the affirmative

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Speaker 1: Action case, which has been taken by the Supreme Court

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Speaker 1: and will be heard this fall, presumably based on just

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Speaker 1: looking at the past writings, and also the Supreme Court

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Speaker 1: makeup right now, is going to be struck down. What

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Speaker 1: is that going to do to your opportunity to also

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Speaker 1: pursue lawsuits like these? Oh, it's going to be It's

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Speaker 1: going to be revolutionary. The Supreme Court ruling in the

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Speaker 1: affirmative Action case, which is really just a racial quotas

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Speaker 1: case disguise as affirmative action, has the potential to the

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Speaker 1: earth shattering. I believe that we have five judges who

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Speaker 1: will vote to uphold each will justice and equal rights

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Speaker 1: in America, and that's what this comes down to. You have,

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Speaker 1: in this case Harvard University, but you have universities all

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Speaker 1: over the country that are engaging in wantonly vehulently discriminatory

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Speaker 1: behavior they solely on skin color or ethnic background in

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Speaker 1: a way that is so plainly in violation of federal law,

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Speaker 1: not to mention the equal Protection clause of the Constitution.

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Speaker 1: It is just so completely transparently lawless. I pray to

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Speaker 1: God we'll get those high votes and that will open up,

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Speaker 1: hopefully the floodgates to much needed litigation to begin shutting

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Speaker 1: down these practices all across the private and public sector.

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Speaker 1: We're speaking to Stephen Miller, former senior visor to President

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Speaker 1: Trump and the current president of the america first legal foundation.

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Speaker 1: As Stephen, you also might have seen that a federal

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Speaker 1: judge just a couple of days ago blocked the Biden

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Speaker 1: Education Departments expansion effectively of Title nine through guidance, which

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Speaker 1: would have prohibited discrimination based on gender identity. So this

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Speaker 1: now brings the trans issue into Title nine and federal

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Speaker 1: civil rights law. The judge put it put a temporary

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Speaker 1: hold on this one, but essentially you've got twenty Republican

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Speaker 1: attorneys general, led by Tennessee Attorney General Herbert Slattery and

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Speaker 1: Clay's home state, saying, well, what are we supposed to

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Speaker 1: do about gender segregated sports under Title nine? Saying that

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Speaker 1: trans individuals can't be discriminated Again, It's like, how do

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Speaker 1: you see this playing out? Well, it's an incredibly important ruling,

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Speaker 1: And you know, one of the reasons why I got

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Speaker 1: into litigation after leaving the administration, it's because so many

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Speaker 1: I'm not frankly, most of our cultural battles that are

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Speaker 1: going to decide the future of this country are going

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Speaker 1: to be decided in our course of law. As we're

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Speaker 1: beginning to see a lot of brave attorneys general fighting

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Speaker 1: back against the radical gender ideology and the administration's implementation

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Speaker 1: of it in our court system, and my organization has

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Speaker 1: a very important lawsuit in this area as well. And

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Speaker 1: I would say that it gets back to the same issue,

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Speaker 1: which is that all of these trans policies are facially

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Speaker 1: discriminatory against women. And so we created this whole body

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Speaker 1: of federal civil rights law to protect women's spaces, to

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Speaker 1: create separate leagues for women's sports, in order to ensure

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Speaker 1: that women are not discrimitted against because they are women.

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Speaker 1: And now we have, in the name of trans ideology,

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Speaker 1: we have men taking opportunities away from women right and left,

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Speaker 1: not to mention, invading their personal spaces. And we've all

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Speaker 1: seen the stories about, you know, for example, naked men

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Speaker 1: parading around women's locker rooms and things of that nature.

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Speaker 1: In fact, my organization has a lawsuit against Loudon County

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Speaker 1: Public Schools in Virginia which alleges, among other things, that

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Speaker 1: students are being forced to share bathrooms and locker rooms

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Speaker 1: against their will with the opposite sex. It's absolutely insane.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it truly is. I mean, Steve and I

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Speaker 1: we were talking with Senator Ron Johnson just last hour,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know that we ever would have ended

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Speaker 1: up in a situation where you have to in order

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Speaker 1: to be able to get a Democrat nomination for the

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Speaker 1: state or Senate, you have to be willing to not

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Speaker 1: say that only women can get pregnant, like you have

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Speaker 1: to say men can get pregnant, or they will not

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Speaker 1: nominate you, basically for a statewide or certainly national office.

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Speaker 1: Now it's become the most important litmus tests in America. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we would be wise to use it in reverse, which

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Speaker 1: is the state of the American people do not support

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Speaker 1: any person for any position of power anywhere in this country,

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Speaker 1: from your school board to the office of the presidency,

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Speaker 1: if they are not prepared to say that only women

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Speaker 1: can get pregnant. This wild that we ever got. This

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Speaker 1: is this is now. We're now on the cutting edge

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Speaker 1: of conservative theory here, but just saying only men can

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Speaker 1: get pregnant, Clay, this is where we are. Only women

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Speaker 1: could get press You got crossed over. Had Bucks gonna

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Speaker 1: be the nominee for the Democratic Only women could get pregnant? Sorry? Sorry,

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Speaker 1: last question about this that I encouraged everyone to think

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Speaker 1: about today, which it was a picture of someone trying

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Speaker 1: to get off the Titanic. I shared it this morning.

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Speaker 1: It's so good. Yes, the only women and children can leave.

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Speaker 1: And then the gentleman said someone to the effect of, oh,

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Speaker 1: I'm trans. How was the Titanic evacuation? Who weren't if

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Speaker 1: the trans aeology have been in place back then. Is

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Speaker 1: such a great meme for people out there who remember

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Speaker 1: the movie Titanic. The bad guy in Titanic is trying

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Speaker 1: to get on the lifeboats and the guy says only

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Speaker 1: women and children, and then the next shot is him

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Speaker 1: saying I'm trans, and then I mean it is really

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Speaker 1: it's ridiculous and funny one, but what would you do that?

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Speaker 1: One of Billy Zane's better moments in film is when

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Speaker 1: they say the people on the ship are going to drown.

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Speaker 1: He's like nothing better half. By the way, he definitely's

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Speaker 1: a Biden voter. I'm just gonna say it. Oh my goodness,

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Speaker 1: ed is a fantastic line. Steven. We appreciate the time,

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Speaker 1: keep up the good work. Thank you, touch soon. Claim

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Speaker 1: we got some breaking news, buddy, I haven't told you what.

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Speaker 1: There's some breaking news. Could could be kind of a

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Speaker 1: big deal. That's what we call a vague teas. What

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Speaker 1: do you think that is a vague teas. Indeed, I'm

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Speaker 1: looking up. I'm like, oh, man, I got so wrapped up,

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00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 1: and how good that meme was. I don't even know

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Speaker 1: what the breaking news is myself. It involves nukes. I

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Speaker 1: can tell you that. Oh that, well that sounds pretty serious. Well,

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Speaker 1: let me tell you this. This is nowhere near as serious.

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Speaker 1: But I went. I had an awesome time. I was

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Speaker 1: down in Orlando, Florida, over the weekend. A couple of

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Speaker 1: my friends from law school have now been married twenty years.

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Speaker 1: We went to celebrate with him. Congratulations to Chad and

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Speaker 1: Rachel Cruz by the way in Orlando. And while I

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Speaker 1: was there, you know what I did, Buck, I wore

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Speaker 1: my Wolf and Shepherd shoes out to my party, and man,

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