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Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, Hi, Is this Lola and Blair?

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Speaker 2: Yeah it is. Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 3: I didn't think i'd actually get on here.

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Speaker 1: I didn't think anyone would ever call. So we're just

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Speaker 1: a couple of people on the phone on We were

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Speaker 1: just a couple of people on a phone call that

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Speaker 1: we never thought we would be on. Lola and Blair.

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Speaker 1: It says here, uh and okay, it says here that

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Speaker 1: you believe that one of your roommates slept with Lola's dad.

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Speaker 1: And at first I read that, I was like, okay,

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Speaker 1: this is you know, maybe a little bit of you know,

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Speaker 1: how can you be so sure? But then it also

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Speaker 1: says here that that Lola found evidence on her dad's

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Speaker 1: let's let's hear let's let's hear this story. Am I

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Speaker 1: talking to Lola or Blair?

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Speaker 3: All right, Yeah, I'm talking to I put you on speaker, so.

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Speaker 1: Let me put me who because I hear one of

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Speaker 1: you guys is faint in the background, and one of

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Speaker 1: you guys is pretty front and center. Let's put Lola

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Speaker 1: can can hover over it. Because I feel like this

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Speaker 1: is is Lola's story to tell, at least in the beginning.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so yeah, this is a little bit of

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Speaker 3: a doozy.

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Speaker 4: I admit.

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Speaker 1: So Tommy, what's going on, Lola?

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Speaker 3: Okay, So I recently transferred to college and this is

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Speaker 3: my first time having roommates. So I have five I

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Speaker 3: have other roommates, well technically sweet mates, but I room

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Speaker 3: with one person. And so the person that I room with, Blair,

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Speaker 3: I you know, I told her the entire story because

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Speaker 3: one of our other sleep mates, Olivia. She uh, it's

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Speaker 3: a little complicated. I don't know what exactly happened to

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Speaker 3: trigger everything, like maybe like I was totally nice to her.

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Speaker 3: I don't think I did anything bad.

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Speaker 1: Hold on, I want to I wanna. I want to

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Speaker 1: skip to sort of the I want to skip to

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Speaker 1: what we know. Okay, So, so it's you, how many

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Speaker 1: people live in this in this place?

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Speaker 5: Okay?

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Speaker 3: So I live with Blair, and then there is twoe

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Speaker 3: rooms that are seeing rooms to one person just lives

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Speaker 3: we share a bathroom a shower.

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Speaker 1: And okay, okay, well, so, so Olivia is the one

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Speaker 1: that you believe slept with your dad. Yes, okay, So

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Speaker 1: what is it that makes you But you said you

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Speaker 1: found something on your dad's phone to make you believe

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Speaker 1: that Olivia slept with him. What is it that you

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Speaker 3: So it was Olivia's phone. I so I was on

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Speaker 3: a phone because I think I was just on Snapchat

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Speaker 3: or something. I asked to borrow her phone for you know,

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Speaker 3: I forgot, but so I was on her phone bash

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Speaker 3: just sick, and all of a sudden, like a message

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Speaker 3: obviously somebody's done. So I scroll through the messages and

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Speaker 3: some little inappropriate comments. And so I mean Olivia and

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Speaker 3: my dad came up to the dorm, introduced himself to

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Speaker 3: my roommates. But I didn't notice anything weird. I don't

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Speaker 3: know how they got each other's numbers, don't know. That's

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Speaker 3: You know, they met on moving day to really like,

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Speaker 6: But we did put our phone numbers up just because

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Speaker 6: we all admit it. It's like, on the first day,

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Speaker 1: You think maybe, so we think we think maybe Lola's

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Speaker 1: dad got Olivia's number from this whiteboard where everyone has

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Speaker 6: He like noticed her and was attracted to her.

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Speaker 1: So so we have so you so so so what

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Speaker 1: you're saying is correct. You have evidence, not necessarily evidence

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Speaker 1: that they have met up and they have slapped together

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Speaker 1: and all this and all that, but you have evidence

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Speaker 1: flirtatious romantic sexual contact.

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Speaker 3: I I didn't.

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Speaker 2: I was dumb.

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Speaker 3: I didn't take screenshots with my phone.

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Speaker 1: Well forgetting about well, forgeting about screenshots. We're not talking

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Speaker 1: about hard evidence here. I'm just saying you've seen it

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've seen it for myself.

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Speaker 1: Like, okay, so, so have you talked to your dad

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Speaker 1: about this? I have not.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how I would talk to him or

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Speaker 3: my roommate. Like it's you know, I don't know too

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Speaker 3: much about my parents' marriage. I you know, I I

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Speaker 3: So I don't really know what's going on. Like I

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Speaker 8: Maybe they're.

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Speaker 3: Marriage, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I'm just really like confused as too, Like what to

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Speaker 3: if they're like, you know, really like thinking about getting

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Speaker 1: Really, well, listen, I mean, how are you okay? So,

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Speaker 1: in response to you not knowing what to do about this,

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Speaker 1: how do you feel about the situation as a whole? Like,

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Speaker 1: what are your thoughts about your dad sleeping with your roommate?

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Speaker 1: How does that make you feel? What do you think

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Speaker 9: I honestly don't feel good about this.

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Speaker 3: I really tried not to think about it at all

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Speaker 3: I don't know, like how you feel like obviously this

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Speaker 1: M you said your you said your relationship with your

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not super close with them.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 10: It's just.

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Speaker 8: It's not that, you know, we hate each other. It's

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Speaker 8: just it's not like a good relationship. You know, I

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Speaker 1: Do you want Do you want to get involved with this?

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Speaker 10: No?

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Speaker 3: I don't. I feel like a good idea is just

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Speaker 3: to like forget what ever happened, okay, And you know,

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Speaker 3: So I don't know if I should be selfish and

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Speaker 1: I don't think you need to worry about ruining your

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Speaker 1: she's sort of made her own bed. But it's interesting

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Speaker 1: because you very you you, And the reason why I

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Speaker 1: when I ask you if you want to get involved

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Speaker 1: you don't want to get involved with this, but you

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Speaker 1: feel like you have a moral obligation to And I

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Speaker 1: don't know, I'm not gonna this this this phone call

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Speaker 1: will end without me telling you what to do, because

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Speaker 1: I don't really have an opinion on what you should do.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know. I don't know if I don't

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Speaker 1: I hope that talking about it at least got you

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well, I've actually known this for a found message a

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Speaker 1: I haven't Here's what I will say. He will be,

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Speaker 1: He will be, he will he will be. Sort of

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Speaker 1: then get involved. But sitting on the fence about it

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Speaker 1: But I'm also happy to hear that it seems like

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Speaker 1: you've got a good friend to talk about all this

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Speaker 1: stuff with that is closer to the situation, so you know,

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Speaker 1: show ste hood and whatnot. But thank you for sharing,

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Speaker 1: Lola and Blair, and good luck to you guys.

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Speaker 5: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: Thanks. I'll update you if anything happens.

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Speaker 4: Hello.

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Speaker 1: Hello is this Travis?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, this is Travis. Hide GEK.

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Speaker 11: How's your not going?

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Speaker 1: How's my night going?

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Speaker 7: Was a little bird going?

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Speaker 1: Mine is going pretty good? Travis. It says here that

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Speaker 1: you're trying to figure out whether or not you're a furry.

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Speaker 11: Yes, that is correct, And I figured, like, I don't

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Speaker 11: I've realized like some of the stuff that stirred up

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Speaker 12: A furry thing.

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Speaker 1: That's a good life to live, that's a good headspace

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Speaker 11: Yeah, no, I appreciate that. I think I will when

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Speaker 11: do me of like a raccoon, But I don't know.

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Speaker 1: A raccoon, all right, Because here's the thing. Here's the thing,

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Speaker 11: Yeah, no, I think yeah, I think you're right. And also, yeah,

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Speaker 11: I think you should do that.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing. It's all these things. They all all

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Speaker 10: Hello.

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Speaker 1: Hello, Hi, is this baby Bear?

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Speaker 2: Yes, this is baby Bear.

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Speaker 1: Baby Bear. It says here that you have been exploring

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Speaker 9: negative thoughts or that kind of negative space.

439
00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,880
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. You know, I'm not going to lie to you.

440
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 1: I absolutely see where you're coming from. When I look

441
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 1: at dogs, they absolutely seem significantly happier than humans, very present,

442
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 1: very in the moment, not thinking about the past, not

443
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 1: thinking about the future, merely focused on the life that

444
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 1: they are living. At the current second that they are

445
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 1: living it, and I can see what is attractive about

446
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 1: that headspace. Tell me what is the process of this

447
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:37,119
Speaker 1: hypnosis look like?

448
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:46,200
Speaker 9: Well, I'm a beginner, so I don't really know fully

449
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:50,400
Speaker 9: all the details yet or would really know how to

450
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 9: like confidently or be able to explain it exactly maybe

451
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 9: how it would be, because I feel like if I

452
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 9: don't want to give any misinformation, but it's different for everybody.

453
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:05,679
Speaker 9: I feel like for me personally, it would be maybe

454
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 9: like a word that would trigger like, let's say, hi,

455
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 9: pup right, and that would like take me from being

456
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:17,399
Speaker 9: to my name is Brianna being Brianna to being pups

457
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 9: and then just kind of being in that space for

458
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 9: a while where I'm just a puff, like not even

459
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,199
Speaker 9: necessarily a dog that's just kind of chilled, but like

460
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 9: just just a cute, little fun, care free pup, and

461
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,919
Speaker 9: then being in that space for a while with my

462
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 9: partner of course, and uh, because you know he accepts

463
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 9: me for that and he's helped me to explore that

464
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 9: more so that's I don't know if I'm just kind

465
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 9: of rambling and didn't really answer.

466
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 14: Your question, but no, so you're trying to that's kind

467
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 14: of what's besides yourself to a point where your partner

468
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 14: can say a phrase and it bring you into this

469
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:02,880
Speaker 14: state of mind.

470
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,439
Speaker 1: So then I have another question. Are you afraid of

471
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:12,640
Speaker 1: the possibility that you will be permanently hypnotized into a

472
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 1: pup and that you will lose Brianna?

473
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 15: Kind of.

474
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 9: Let's see, Like I do have some reservations in that sense,

475
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 9: Like and I know that my partner would do this

476
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,640
Speaker 9: because I completely trust him, But at the same time,

477
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 9: I kind of have like, just like this little thought

478
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 9: in the back of my head, like because I've seen

479
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 9: different movies and shows and stuff where like people will

480
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 9: get put under hypnosis, maybe not even knowing it, or

481
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 9: they do and they think it's for different, that there

482
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 9: the intention behind it is different, and then being manipulated

483
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 9: or tricked into being hypnotized to be doing other things

484
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 9: that weren't consented. I think that's kind of where it.

485
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 1: But I'm not talking about the idea that you can

486
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: get hypnotized into something else. I'm talking about the idea

487
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 1: that you get hypnotized into being a dog, but your

488
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 1: partner is unable to hypnotize you back into being You

489
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 1: said your name was said Bianna. Yeah, unable to yourself,

490
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 1: and so you are permanently a dog. How I mean,

491
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 1: how does that sound to you?

492
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 9: I mean, it wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing, but

493
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 9: if I think about it from the perspective of, you know,

494
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 9: I have to think about my adult responsibilities as well,

495
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 9: and like like my job and you know, there's like

496
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 9: there's those are the things that I have to take

497
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 9: care of in my life. But if I was to

498
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 9: a point where I was I had financial freedom, and

499
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 9: I had enough money to just be comfortable for the

500
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 9: rest of my life, which I plan on doing at

501
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 9: some point in time, working towards that for sure, to

502
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 9: where I would just be able to chill at home,

503
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 9: then maybe it wouldn't be necessarily a bad thing. But

504
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 9: I don't know if I would want to be in

505
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 9: that space permanently because I want to have that sense

506
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 9: of being back as Brianna, because I want to be

507
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 9: able to keep learning and growing. I don't want that

508
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 9: to be the only thing that.

509
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 10: I am.

510
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 9: If that makes.

511
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 1: Sense, I agree with you that I also one day

512
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 1: would love to be rich enough to be a dog.

513
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 10: That would be great.

514
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 1: Thank you very much for calling Brianna. Good luck to you.

515
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 5: Thank you.

516
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 1: That actually sounds like a pretty good life.

517
00:30:54,360 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 4: Hello, how's a good one.

518
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 1: I'm a gecko, I'm a banana. All right.

519
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 4: I have a story that kind of scarred me. This

520
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 4: was told me about a year ago. I promise this

521
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 4: is not pranking. I promise this is a true story.

522
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 4: I'm looking in the chat. Somebody said this was a prank.

523
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 1: Banana, do my favorite while you are, while we're on

524
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 1: the phone, while we're on the phone together, do me

525
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 1: a favorite. Try not to look at the chat.

526
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, okay, I got you. I got you, beautiful.

527
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 4: I'm sorry about that.

528
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 1: No, no worries, man, What's what's up? What's uh? What

529
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: did you want to say?

530
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 4: Okay, So I was going to my buddy's house to

531
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 4: go pick up some stuff, and well, he asked if

532
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 4: he could go get some McDonald's with his girlfriends if

533
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 4: they didn't have a car. So, you know, I left

534
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 4: my stuff there because this is gonna be a quick ride.

535
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 4: We're gonna go back, come back, you know, I'll get

536
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 4: my stuff and go back home. Well, we get back

537
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 4: to his where the place he was staying, and his

538
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 4: roommate's girlfriend locked the door because she was going to Walmart. Well,

539
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 4: they didn't have a way in and my stuff was inside,

540
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 4: so I couldn't wait. I mean I had to wait

541
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 4: to get my stuff. And so we were, you know,

542
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 4: just telling stories. Well he told me about how he

543
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 4: had an ex girlfriend that he got pregnant and they

544
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 4: didn't have the money to afford for an abortion. So

545
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 4: he told me about he grabbed the uh they had

546
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 4: to use a coat hanger, and he said that he

547
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 4: could feel the coat hanger going up and he could

548
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 4: feel it scrambling the baby. And that shit free like

549
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 4: kind of fucked me up.

550
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 7: Bro.

551
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 4: I ain't gonna lie like I'm all about abortions because

552
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 4: that's free, you know, free rights to everybody. But like,

553
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 4: how you gonna tell somebody that shit.

554
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 6: M.

555
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 1: This was your this was something that happened to your friends.

556
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, he did, like he did himself. Like he

557
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 4: told me he could feel the the like the coat hanger,

558
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 4: you know, you straight in the coat, the coat hanger out.

559
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 4: He said he could feel it penetrate the feat of

560
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 4: and he could feel it scrambling and ship. Wow, I

561
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 4: promise this is not a joke, but like this ship

562
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 4: is kind of fucked up.

563
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 1: So you said that this this well so interesting. So

564
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 1: you say that this story scarred you. Yeah, I mean

565
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 1: if the story, if, if the third party account of

566
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 1: it scarred you, I I, uh, I cannot imagine how

567
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: how your friend felt.

568
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 4: I mean, you're right about that. But he did he

569
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 4: did it for a reason, so he must have been

570
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 4: okay with it.

571
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 7: M hm m hm.

572
00:33:55,680 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: Hmmm. It says you're It says here, No, go ahead,

573
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 1: you you you were, you were, you were going to

574
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: say something.

575
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,800
Speaker 4: No, you can go ahead. That was stupid.

576
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 1: No say the stupid thing.

577
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 4: I kind of don't want to because it's stupid.

578
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: Says here that, Uh, you have a story about getting

579
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 1: locked out of your friend's house. Is this the same

580
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:28,240
Speaker 1: story or these two different stories?

581
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 4: Uh, that's the same story because we got locked out

582
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 4: of his buddy's house because I had to wait and

583
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 4: wait to give my stuff that was inside of there.

584
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 4: But I mean, my life's kind of kind of all whacked.

585
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna lie. If you want to hear some other.

586
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: Stories, sure, why do you say that your life is whack?

587
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,399
Speaker 4: So? So how much can I go with saying on here?

588
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 1: I mean, look, as long as you're not saying anything like,

589
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: you know, well, what what what? What? Tell me? Tell me?

590
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: Tell me the area of what you would like to say?

591
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 4: The FBI is not gonna come raid in my house

592
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 4: if I'll tell you my life right now? Will they?

593
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 1: What exactly? Well, give it? Give me the arena? What?

594
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: What area? What topic of I make some stuff.

595
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:43,840
Speaker 4: I ain't gonna lie. I kind of I beat around

596
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 4: the bush and I kind of talk some people over,

597
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 4: but they all still buy my ship.

598
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: Okay, you you say you make some stuff and you

599
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 1: and you're function some people over in what way, in

600
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 1: whatever amount of detail you're comfortable providing? Do you do

601
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 1: you fuck people over?

602
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 10: Well?

603
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 4: Do you do you know anything about like psychedelics?

604
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 1: Not a whole lot?

605
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 4: Well, you know how like the there's a LSD's like

606
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 4: all those tiny papers. Yep, Well you can buy those

607
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 4: tiny papers on Amazon by like a sheet for like

608
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 4: twenty five dollars. Well, instead of making LSD, there's something

609
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 4: called LSA. It's so simple to make. Well, I found

610
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 4: a way to get it onto the papers and gives

611
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 4: you like a like a like a decent trip, and

612
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 4: so I sell it really cheap. But it's really cheap

613
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 4: to make. So i'd be like flipping in my money.

614
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,359
Speaker 1: And when you sell it, do you pass it off

615
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 1: as if it is LSD? Yeah?

616
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:57,320
Speaker 4: I sell it as LSD.

617
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 1: What is LSA mean? Uh?

618
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 4: I honestly cannot tell you that I fell a lost

619
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 4: eergic acid. But don't take me up on that. I'm

620
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,919
Speaker 4: pretty sure it's not Elisa xeric acid. Get you get

621
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 4: it from the seed. The seeds are legal. The process

622
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 4: to make it is literally the seeds and watered.

623
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 1: Okay. And when you say you fuck people over, do

624
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 1: people come back to you upset with you about this?

625
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,919
Speaker 4: No? Because if you get actual LSD, you can sail

626
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 4: it for fifteen a hit where I'm at, So I

627
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 4: sell these for five dollars a hit or three hundred

628
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:46,720
Speaker 4: for one hundred of them. So like I just passed

629
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 4: it off as like really bad LSD. Okay, And but

630
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 4: but you can go on YouTube right now and learn

631
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 4: how to make it. And you go on there and

632
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 4: learn how to make dmt s, which I don't know

633
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 4: if you know what DMT is.

634
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: So tell me you say your life is fuck I

635
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 1: forget if I'm putting words in your mouth, but you

636
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: said your life is fucked up?

637
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 4: Yeah? I think this is pretty fucked up what I did.

638
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 1: Okay, So I'm not.

639
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 4: What I say. I'm not really happy with what I do.

640
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 4: I'm sorry for cutting you off.

641
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 1: No, no, no, it's fine. So you're not happy with

642
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 1: what you do? Is is there anything that you could

643
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 1: think of that that you would rather be doing?

644
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 3: Well?

645
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 4: I already worked forty hours a week, so this is

646
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 4: sort of like a side thing and I just enjoyed

647
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 4: doing it. But I know it's like bad, Oh bro, bro,

648
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 4: what okay? Okay, I just now remember what happened. What

649
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 4: happened to me like two months ago. You will not

650
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 4: believe this. I thought I was going to jail for life.

651
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 4: Can I can I tell this story?

652
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: Yeah? But I I wanna. I want a real quick

653
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:08,879
Speaker 1: because I don't want to lose this. You said that

654
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: you're not happy with it you do, but yet you

655
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 1: say you enjoy doing it, so you just like.

656
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:26,399
Speaker 4: Well, are you? It hurts my family? That's that's that's

657
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 4: one real big reasons why I hate doing this.

658
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 1: Okay, so it hurts your family, but you say that

659
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:38,439
Speaker 1: you like doing it, but it's something that has pros

660
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 1: and cons to it in your eyes.

661
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 4: Yes, Like I don't think anybody should do to this.

662
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 1: Okay, what are the what are the pros for you?

663
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: Making money?

664
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 4: Pretty much just making money, that's all about it.

665
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. And in what ways does it hurt your family?

666
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 4: They're just against it. They don't like anything about doing it.

667
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 4: They've been sober for about thirty years, and I just

668
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 4: feel like it's bad that I'm doing that shit.

669
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 3: Have you?

670
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 1: I'm just curious have you made any attempt at all

671
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 1: to stop doing this?

672
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 4: About twenty eighteen, I got robbed of two ounces from

673
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 4: a guy that I knew from like the second grade.

674
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 4: I moved away from that school in like tenth grade,

675
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 4: and I figured, you know, he wouldn't suck me over.

676
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:43,399
Speaker 4: Will Yeah, should sucked me over? And well that kind

677
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 4: of maybe stought for him, and I sort of just

678
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 4: got back into it because you know, I'm not gonna lie.

679
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 4: I so weed to.

680
00:40:56,160 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 1: Have you ever gone to any kind of like actual

681
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 1: counselor type of person who you think might be able

682
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 1: to help you.

683
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 10: You?

684
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: I am, I am. I don't know if I've disclaimed

685
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 1: this to you, but I am not an actual I

686
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 1: am nothing more than a man in a gecko costume.

687
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 1: But but if you do have a genuine desire to quit,

688
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 1: I would as always recommend that you seek some form

689
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 1: of legitimate, legitimate help. What was the thing that you

690
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 1: wanted to tell me that happened to you?

691
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:57,479
Speaker 4: Two months ago, me and my buddies we all left

692
00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:59,439
Speaker 4: her house because they had to go to a gas

693
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 4: station give wraps. Well, we were just going to get wraps,

694
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 4: so we didn't carry nothing on us. Well, as soon

695
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 4: as we leave out their house, go down the street.

696
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 4: There's a cop sitting right across the street. So you know,

697
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 4: we turned right. As soon as we get down a

698
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 4: little down the road, the cop pulls out. Well, we

699
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:23,359
Speaker 4: get down to our gas station. You know, the cop

700
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,720
Speaker 4: blue lights us, so we get pulled over. Well, because

701
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 4: he knows the people in the car, and he said

702
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 4: that he smelled marijuana. He said that he could. He

703
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 4: told me to get out of the car, and I

704
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 4: got out. I was straight with it. I told you

705
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 4: can search the car. There's nothing in there, and so

706
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 4: I let him soish the car. They didn't find nothing. Well,

707
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 4: I had jail tabs, the jail LSD, and I had

708
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:55,839
Speaker 4: paper LSD on me right there, like real stuff, not fake. Well,

709
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 4: I should you not. When they searched that car. Another

710
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 4: cop came, they searched that car again. They found it.

711
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 4: He brought that up, pointed it right in my face.

712
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 4: He was like, what are these? I told him they

713
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 4: were stamps. You look them and you put them on there.

714
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 4: And he looked at him, like, these are stamps. I've

715
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 4: never seen stamps like this before. He was I'm gonna

716
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 4: have to go do a little more research on these.

717
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 4: So he takes them, you know, goes back to his car.

718
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 4: I'm still standing there thinking, oh man, I'm about to

719
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 4: go to fucking jail for live because one tab is

720
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 4: apparently like a manslaughter charge or something or like like

721
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 4: conspiracy against the government. And I had eight of them,

722
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 4: so I was like, oh, fuck brou I'm gone. But

723
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 4: he tells me to go over there. He was like,

724
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 4: these aren't acid stamps, are they? Because I looked up

725
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 4: stamps and that's this one word for acid. I was like, no,

726
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 4: there's just stamps. You look them and put them on

727
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 4: the envelope. He was like, he was like, okay, I'm

728
00:43:57,960 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 4: gonna take your word on that. I'm gonna take it

729
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 4: to the lad and test him. If anything comes back,

730
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 4: we're gonna come and get you. I was like, there's

731
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 4: just that. Well, let a load. He he letting me go,

732
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 4: Like dude, I shipped my pants, he letting me go.

733
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 4: I sat back in my car, but literally, the paper

734
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 4: tabs were sitting on my front seat. I got it

735
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 4: back in the car. They were just sitting right there.

736
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 4: As soon as I opened my door, I was like,

737
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 4: what the fuck? How they not even take those? But

738
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 4: they took my jail tabs. That's it. So, yeah, that

739
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 4: was a ramble. I'm sorry.

740
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: They just flat out believed that they were snaps.

741
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess so, But I'm okay, okay, there's some

742
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 4: wors to it. The UH, the coffin story of acting

743
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 4: like buddy buddy to me, and I ain't gonna lie

744
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 4: because I'm likek A, I'm just okay, I'm just gonna

745
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 4: say that. And well I asked the uh. As soon

746
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 4: as that cop said these are acids fasts, I told him,

747
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 4: I was like, no, what what his acid? He was like, oh,

748
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 4: that's a bad drug. But I'm pretty sure that guy's

749
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 4: tried it. He pointed at this other cop inside his car,

750
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:13,800
Speaker 4: and that cop started laughing.

751
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 12: M hm.

752
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure they knew what it was. They took

753
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 4: the ship and they had good night.

754
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:30,359
Speaker 1: Really so they so they ended up auto. So they

755
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 1: did confiscate it from you.

756
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, but they didn't like wrap it up for anything.

757
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 4: They just pretty much they were holding you like they

758
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 4: didn't have anything, like no fucking evidence bag or nothing.

759
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 4: The cop was like, you ain't gonna have to pay

760
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 4: nothing tonight. You're good to go. You all can leave,

761
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 4: like they were like really like some like really buddy, buddy,

762
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 4: cops ain't gonna lie and they found that ship.

763
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 1: Listen, banana banana, banana, banana, banana. I you know, like

764
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 1: I mean, look, thank you for sharing with us again.

765
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:07,399
Speaker 1: I appreciate that you feel comfortable enough to share this

766
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 1: this stuff with us and everything. I am concerned though,

767
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 1: because you sound like you know you got very if.

768
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know where you live, I

769
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 1: don't know what the laws are or whatever whatever. But

770
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 1: if what you are telling me is true and you

771
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 1: had enough acid on your person to send you to

772
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 1: jail forever, you got really lucky.

773
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 4: Very lucky. Before my car, that ship was horrible for

774
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 4: me because when he brought that ship right up in

775
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 4: my face, dude, I literally put my hands behind my

776
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 4: back like I was in handcuffs and he's like I

777
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 4: thought there was like what that's fun? Then he was

778
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 4: like what are these that total? There's a dance that

779
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,280
Speaker 4: he literally like talking to normal.

780
00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:00,359
Speaker 1: But but you know, okay, look you got really oh

781
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 1: you know, you got really lucky. Okay, And again a

782
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 1: real counselor, I'm an insane man at a gecko costume

783
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 1: on the internet. But and I don't have any like

784
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 1: advice for you necessarily, but I do hope that you

785
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 1: take how long did this happen?

786
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 4: That happened like two months ago?

787
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,760
Speaker 1: And are you and are you still are you still selling?

788
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 4: Yes? I stay out of that area. I try, I

789
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 4: try to say, because I got pulled over three times

790
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 4: and like maybe maybe in like a week and a

791
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,320
Speaker 4: half fan and they didn't give me no tickets that

792
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 4: set one time.

793
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 1: Well, Banana, I listen again. This is this is definitely

794
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 1: you know, above my pay grade to advise you as

795
00:47:55,280 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 1: as to what to do, but just as a as

796
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 1: an entity of some kind that would like to see

797
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 1: you avoid avoid go into jail forever and avoid causing

798
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 1: heart to your family, I do genuinely hope that you

799
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:24,879
Speaker 1: find a better alternative to making money than doing this

800
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 1: because dude, you know how lucky you got and I

801
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:33,839
Speaker 1: don't want you to be in that position again, right

802
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 1: because hey, you might not get so lucky again.

803
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 4: You're right about that. The ass is just paper, like

804
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 4: most cops don't even know what that shit is. Can

805
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 4: I tell one more story.

806
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:04,879
Speaker 1: Before I know? Well, listen, I know, look, we're we're, we're,

807
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 1: we're definitely uh you know, I know you have a

808
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 1: lot of stories about this, but I really want like

809
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 1: you to leave at leastless call with like, fuck man,

810
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 1: the sentiment that like, whatever it is, I don't know

811
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:22,800
Speaker 1: you man of let me talking to you for twenty minutes.

812
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 1: But I hope that whatever it is that keeps you

813
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:33,359
Speaker 1: living this pretty dangerous lifestyle, that you find a way

814
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 1: to get out of it. Because again I'm a broken

815
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 1: record here, but you know you got very lucky, and

816
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 1: I assume that that doing what you do, I would

817
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:49,720
Speaker 1: have to assume you live in consistent anxiety every single

818
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 1: day of getting caught. I you don't.

819
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 4: No getting getting taught for what? Say what?

820
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 10: What?

821
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 4: In particular, like you think the police are gonna come

822
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:08,280
Speaker 4: and just raid my house?

823
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I don't know but I I

824
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 1: think that I don't know. Man, I'm just a guy

825
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: of going on the computer. But I can only wish

826
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:28,320
Speaker 1: that that you do whatever's best for you, Banana.

827
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 4: Look, can I give like one piece of advice? Cops

828
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 4: do not search the gas canisters, you know, like where

829
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 4: you click the button where you like pop the ship right,

830
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:43,320
Speaker 4: you don't even have like so hold on, I'm sumbling

831
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 4: over my words. Just wherever, like the the area opens up,

832
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,359
Speaker 4: you just pick your wead right there, don't due. They

833
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 4: never search that gas area.

834
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 1: Banana, thank you for calling and good luck to you.

835
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 4: I hopefully I can meet you again. Sir.

836
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:07,479
Speaker 2: Hi, Hello, Hi, Hi.

837
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 1: Mister, this is a get go. What is your name?

838
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 1: Alexis Alexis? What's going on with you today in the world?

839
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:27,280
Speaker 2: Ah, you know, I mean the hardships of being an adult.

840
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:32,879
Speaker 2: Everything's so expensive. I talking about My mom's very excited. Yes,

841
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 2: my mom's excited. She loved you too.

842
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,359
Speaker 1: Oh do you You seem like you have a good

843
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,800
Speaker 1: relationship with your mom?

844
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 2: On and off? Yeah?

845
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,360
Speaker 1: Why where is it today? Are we on? Today?

846
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 12: Were on?

847
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 2: Today?

848
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 5: You know?

849
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 2: Everything is going good. I got groceries and stuff, so

850
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:56,879
Speaker 2: the house is taken care of it's all pretty good.

851
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 1: So it says here that you met a guy on

852
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 1: a sugar daddy website, but it hasn't been going well?

853
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 1: Why why has that not been going well? Well?

854
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 2: You know, I was forthcoming about like, hey, I'm struggling

855
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 2: paying rent. It talks for my mom and keep it up.

856
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 2: So all live in the Bay Area. Everything is just

857
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 2: super expensive and he knows that. And I kind of

858
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 2: talked with him today being like I'm kind of just

859
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 2: living off credit and when I went to the grocery store,

860
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 2: it was just like, oh my god, my credit card

861
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 2: is going to work today. I'm my maxed out and

862
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 2: I'm like here, you know, it's just it's really hard.

863
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 2: And he's like, oh, well, you know what you should,

864
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 2: like go to a food bank. I'm sure there's a

865
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 2: lot of good ones around. I'm like, well, you know

866
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,919
Speaker 2: what the deal is. We met on seeking arrangement, So.

867
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 7: Why are you telling me to go to.

868
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:53,359
Speaker 2: A food bank?

869
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 1: So what is the is the goal here? Are you?

870
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 1: So I've have you met up with this guy in

871
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 1: person before?

872
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I met with him like two times, and you know,

873
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 2: he's a very nice, sweet dude. He's you know, he's

874
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 2: like only thirty. I'm twenty two, and you know, he's

875
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:14,880
Speaker 2: really nice for He's like, yeah, I definitely want to

876
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 2: help you out and stuff like that. And you know,

877
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 2: he filed up.

878
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 7: My car for me.

879
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 2: When I went to go meet him. I just went

880
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 2: on like a couple of dates and stuff, and I've

881
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 2: told him I'm like, hey, you know, when you're comfortable,

882
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 2: I'm cool to come to your house and stuff. But

883
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 2: you know, I'm like, I feel like he's not going

884
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 2: to come through. And I don't want to be rude

885
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 2: or push you and go like, hey, give me money

886
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 2: right now, but I'm like, I need money, please.

887
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 16: See.

888
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 1: I don't know what to tell you. I don't know

889
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 1: necessarily the etiquette of the sugar daddy's sugar baby universe.

890
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 1: Here I will say, I will say, I will say,

891
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 1: if this guy that you met on this if your

892
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:05,720
Speaker 1: whole thing is that you want to find a sugar

893
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 1: daddy and you're willing to And again, I don't know

894
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:12,280
Speaker 1: what sort of things are bringing in the big bucks.

895
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:14,400
Speaker 1: I don't know how much you have to do. I

896
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:16,840
Speaker 1: don't know what you're personally comfortable doing. I don't know

897
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: any of the I don't know the universe super well.

898
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 1: But if your goal is to find a guy who's

899
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 1: going to give you a bunch of money, and this

900
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 1: guy is in it, why you know, of of the

901
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 1: whatever thousands of guys on seeking arrangements, why are you

902
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:37,760
Speaker 1: stuck with this guy? Why don't you go find more guys?

903
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 1: If this is in fact the way that you you

904
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 1: know that you want to do.

905
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 2: It, I am a little bit scared and like this

906
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 2: guy very promising just because we click really well. But

907
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 2: it's just like I'm very scared because it's like, you know,

908
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:54,839
Speaker 2: a lot of people come in and be all like, jo,

909
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 2: if you mean to me with me right now and

910
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 2: have sex and I'll give you one hundred dollars or whatever,

911
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 2: and I'm kind of like and like, this was the

912
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:05,280
Speaker 2: first guy that was actually like a very nice, normal,

913
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 2: decent person. You know. He was saying, you know, I

914
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 2: do want to spoil you, how but I give you

915
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 2: like three hundred dollars every time we like meet up

916
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 2: for a date and stuff like that and see if

917
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 2: we get along, and you know, I want to spoil

918
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 2: you with gifts, and I'm like cool. We went on

919
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 2: two dates. You know, he paid for the meal he

920
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 2: filled up my car and he's like, yeah, you know,

921
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 2: I definitely want to help you. It's go on a

922
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:28,240
Speaker 2: few more dates. And I'm just like, I'm like, plee,

923
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 2: I kind of you know, can you help me please?

924
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 1: This is I'm I'm why are you afraid to ask

925
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 1: him for money? If? I mean, look, you you sought

926
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 1: an arrangement, as did he.

927
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 10: M h.

928
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 1: I feel like the writing is on the wall as

929
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 1: to sort of the arrangement, which is you sort again,

930
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 1: I don't know the universe that well, so this is

931
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 1: just me started making this efferent air. But the arrangement

932
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 1: being sought is that he gives you money and you

933
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:10,360
Speaker 1: in turn spend spend romantic and I guess implied sexual

934
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 1: time with him.

935
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:17,439
Speaker 2: Mm hmm yeah, pretty much. It's scared turn them off

936
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 2: and he'll.

937
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 1: Be like, yeah, so are you afraid to to to

938
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 1: reinforce the sort of grounds of the arrangement by saying, Hey, listen,

939
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 1: you know I'll go out on a date with you,

940
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 1: but this ain't tender. This is seeking arrangements. You gotta

941
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 1: pay me for this.

942
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:43,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just scared to be I'm not very confrontational.

943
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:45,759
Speaker 2: You know, I'm a cancer, So it's very hard for

944
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 2: me just be like, hey, you know what the deal is?

945
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, look, and by the way, maybe you know,

946
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 1: maybe you ask a more seasoned sugar baby about the

947
00:56:57,000 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 1: best way to go about it, but yeah, you might

948
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:02,360
Speaker 1: have to get a little bit of confrontational and just

949
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 1: it's not even it's not a confrontation. Don't look at

950
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 1: it as a confrontation. But uh look, you know you

951
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:09,840
Speaker 1: gotta go out there, you gotta lay out the uh

952
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 1: layout again, the grounds of the arrangement. Let me bring

953
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 1: up one other thing by the way before we and

954
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 1: and again, I you know, I think I think that

955
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 1: any way that you could make money is you know,

956
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say it's not a legitimate way, but like,

957
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 1: have you considered other ways of making money? If if

958
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 1: this is like you know, because you you you you

959
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 1: sound like you have safety concerns, which are very legitimate concerns,

960
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 1: and you know, you sound like you're I I I

961
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 1: don't know, I'm not gonna put words in it, but

962
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 1: you sound like you don't want to have sex with

963
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 1: people for money. Have you thought about other ways that

964
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 1: you could make money out outside of seeking arrangements?

965
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a full time job. I look at

966
00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 2: Tesla and it's like, you know, the pay is good,

967
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 2: it's just I try to work over time as much

968
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 2: as I can, and it's just it's killing me. But

969
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 2: I'm not going to go just get another part time job,

970
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 2: because over time that'd probably be making like thirty to

971
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 2: forty bucks an hour if I work, you know, sixty

972
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 2: seventy hours a week. You know, it's just like I

973
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 2: don't know, and it's seed like, just a little bit

974
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 2: of that help for just a little bit longer until

975
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 2: my mom can hold the job and I have.

976
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 1: Six It's fine, but I'm sorry, I'm sorry I laughed,

977
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 1: but I was just I feel like if you work

978
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 1: at I'm I feel like, So you work at Tesla, Yeah,

979
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 1: full time fortune five hundred company, Yeah, full time job.

980
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 1: So where are your money struggles? Lying? Is it that

981
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 1: you're trying to support your mom and you don't make

982
00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 1: enough money to support both you and her? Where is

983
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 1: the what's the sort of the big money issue that

984
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 1: you're trying to solve.

985
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just I'm paying all the bills by myself.

986
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 2: You move into this place recently, and my mom kind

987
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:13,920
Speaker 2: of just she can't hold a job. She kind of

988
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 2: just walks off and doesn't want to like stay, or

989
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 2: she doesn't want to go back, and then it's kind

990
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 2: of just all falls on me. And I had a

991
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 2: boyfriend who worked at Tesla and he helped me out

992
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 2: a little bit, but things just got really really bad

993
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 2: between us, so I had to kind of stick we're

994
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 2: doing and now it's just kind of all on me,

995
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh, gosh, okay, well I need to

996
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 2: do something that's just kind of quick, easy money. Just

997
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:38,480
Speaker 2: make sure rent's paid on time, to make sure we

998
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 2: can have groceries and all of that.

999
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 1: Well, you know, look, if you've explored other ways of

1000
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 1: trying to make a little bit of side hustle money

1001
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 1: and you've decided that this is the right one for you,

1002
00:59:51,760 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 1: then you know, don't be afraid to be confrontational as

1003
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:03,919
Speaker 1: to the nature, because at the end of the day,

1004
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:07,480
Speaker 1: seeking arrangements, at the end of the day, the sugar

1005
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:12,600
Speaker 1: baby sugar daddy arrangement is a business transaction. And if

1006
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 1: you know, I am a freelance anything, if I'm a

1007
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 1: freelance photographer or a freelance artist or a freelance girlfriend,

1008
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 1: I should really have no problem with asking people to

1009
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 1: pay their invoices. And that's just a part of being

1010
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 1: a freelancer. Whatever it is, you are freelancing. So if

1011
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:39,880
Speaker 1: this is the side hustle that you have decided to pursue,

1012
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:42,520
Speaker 1: I invite you to look at this as an opportunity

1013
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 1: to do one of the necessary parts of freelancing, which

1014
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 1: is asking to get paid.

1015
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 2: I think you know it seems silly, but talking to

1016
01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 2: you actually helped make me feel better good.

1017
01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:02,640
Speaker 1: I'm glad to hear that. Give your best to uh.

1018
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 1: I was about to say, give your best to my mom,

1019
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:08,840
Speaker 1: but you're not. You don't know my mom.

1020
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 7: Give well, I do give them my best.

1021
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:13,400
Speaker 1: To your mom. And I think you calling.

1022
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:16,400
Speaker 2: Thank you so much? Having good night?

1023
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:20,760
Speaker 1: Hello? Is this leave.

1024
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 7: Yes?

1025
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 12: Si leaves Lee.

1026
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 1: It says here that you have an obsession with lawnmowers.

1027
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:32,920
Speaker 1: You currently have six of them, Yes, but you want more?

1028
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 12: Yes, I do want more.

1029
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 1: And what is driving this obsession?

1030
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:48,760
Speaker 12: Well, honestly, like when you sit there and you work

1031
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 12: on these lawnmowers, and once you get them running and

1032
01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:56,439
Speaker 12: you can just ride around on them, and it's it's

1033
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 12: like a reward in itself. You can line them up

1034
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 12: and you need to pictures of them. You know, they're

1035
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 12: a lot cheaper than than cars, they're easier to get

1036
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:12,120
Speaker 12: a hold of. You know what I'm saying, No, no, no, I.

1037
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 1: I now that you've explained it and you've sort of

1038
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 1: analogized it to the types of people who have like

1039
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 1: garages and garages of cars and the big car people,

1040
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 1: it actually makes a lot of sense why you would

1041
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:27,400
Speaker 1: be obsessed with lawnmowers, because not everybody has the financial

1042
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 1: tools to keep cars and cars of, to keep garages

1043
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:34,040
Speaker 1: and garages of of of you know, collectible cars, but

1044
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:39,040
Speaker 1: you know collecting lawnmowers. Being a lawnmower enthusiast a lot

1045
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:46,080
Speaker 1: more affordable of a hobby with a very similar sort

1046
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:50,640
Speaker 1: of idea behind it. You know, there's engines, there's models,

1047
01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 1: there's all the sort of same stuff to gain.

1048
01:02:58,200 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 4: Exactly.

1049
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:02,440
Speaker 12: And you seem like people have told me that I

1050
01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:05,560
Speaker 12: have a problem, like I just get too many of them.

1051
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:10,040
Speaker 12: I don't see it that way, like cause like literally

1052
01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 12: like every two weeks, I'll either like just get another

1053
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:15,360
Speaker 12: one or just trade one of the ones that I

1054
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:18,320
Speaker 12: currently have for a different one. Like I'm always on

1055
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:20,960
Speaker 12: the search for a new type of onanmomer.

1056
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 4: I haven't had before.

1057
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:32,200
Speaker 12: And is the pul And the crazy part.

1058
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 1: Is speaks to you the most.

1059
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:43,720
Speaker 12: Yes, the nineteen sixties Sears customs are my favorite. They

1060
01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:48,280
Speaker 12: just they hit so different, well because they are like

1061
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:52,520
Speaker 12: the simplest, like you just just pull the starter and

1062
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:56,080
Speaker 12: it's not one little belt that turns the whole thing,

1063
01:03:56,480 --> 01:04:00,080
Speaker 12: and it's just such a simple machine. But yet it

1064
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:04,959
Speaker 12: so capable, like they can do so much, Like there's

1065
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:07,000
Speaker 12: so much more than just a lawnmo.

1066
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, absolutely absolutely, How many long

1067
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:13,120
Speaker 4: moments and.

1068
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:18,640
Speaker 1: Throughout the course of your life do you hope to own?

1069
01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:23,240
Speaker 12: Oh, like from the rest of my life?

1070
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:27,360
Speaker 1: Oh when will you?

1071
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 12: Oh man, I don't see myself stop them before one hundred.

1072
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:35,600
Speaker 1: Until you gaze upon them and go that is enough.

1073
01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:42,760
Speaker 12: Well, I'd say at one time, I'd say I could.

1074
01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:47,640
Speaker 12: I could handle fifteen at one time, but all the

1075
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:51,439
Speaker 12: different kinds I would like to have, I don't see

1076
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:57,760
Speaker 12: myself stopping before one hundred or so, you know. And

1077
01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:00,960
Speaker 12: the crazy part is, I I don't even like mowing

1078
01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:04,840
Speaker 12: my grass. I just like the mowers themselves.

1079
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:07,280
Speaker 1: Your lawn with.

1080
01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:12,600
Speaker 12: Them, Well, I have like one or two that I

1081
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:15,240
Speaker 12: do mow my lawn with. I just don't like mowing

1082
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:18,680
Speaker 12: the lawn. I just like the lawnmower with themselves.

1083
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:23,040
Speaker 1: M hmm. Do you like to ride the mowers?

1084
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:29,320
Speaker 12: Yes, I will actually get on one of my lawnmowers

1085
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:32,880
Speaker 12: and I'll go check the cows, I'll go get my mail.

1086
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 12: I'm next weekend, I'm planning on driving it all the

1087
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:39,560
Speaker 12: way to the grocery store, just just because I can.

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Speaker 12: You know, m.

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Speaker 1: Do they have parking for lawnmowers?

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Speaker 12: Not specific parking, but the way I look at it,

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Speaker 12: what are they going to tell me to do? Just

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Speaker 12: move the lawnmower, and once it's there, I don't really

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01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:08,439
Speaker 12: think anybody will do anything about it. That's true, Yeah,

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01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:11,320
Speaker 12: because like they'll be stuff like right down the road

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Speaker 12: that I could easily just drive my vehicle to, but

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Speaker 12: I'll prefer to take the lawnmower, just as there's a

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Speaker 12: different feel to it.

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Speaker 1: Do you know anyone else who's obsessed with lawnmowers or

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Speaker 1: are you alone in this hobby? Hobby?

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Speaker 12: Well, I actually I have a lawnmower group of friends.

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01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 12: Now they don't have as many as I do, but

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Speaker 12: we do have like this little group where we'll go

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01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:43,560
Speaker 12: ride lawnmowers together.

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Speaker 1: Like a sort of lawnmower gang.

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01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:55,880
Speaker 12: Yeah, it's it's called mower Mafia, and we'll get together

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01:06:56,240 --> 01:06:58,400
Speaker 12: and we'll just ride the lawnmowers and then we'll talk

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Speaker 12: about them.

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Speaker 1: M hmm.

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Speaker 12: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Do you guys ever go to war with other lawnmower clubs?

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01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:14,280
Speaker 12: Well, we haven't come across any other ones yet. I

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01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:18,240
Speaker 12: like or like a pack of wolves just running the

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Speaker 12: area with the lawnmower area, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, right running your.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, turf. It's a good analogy since it's lawnmowers.

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Speaker 1: What did you say? Your name was.

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Speaker 12: Lee?

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Speaker 1: Thank you for calling Lee.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, you have a nice night, mister Gid.

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Speaker 1: Hello Forrest.

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01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:46,360
Speaker 4: Hey, look up.

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Speaker 1: That you wanted to talk about your sugar addiction.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, yeah, we could definitely talk about that. I was

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01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:59,720
Speaker 17: just I finally finished all the podcasts and I remember

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01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:03,200
Speaker 17: that being one of the older episodes. I think, and

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01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:08,840
Speaker 17: I also have a sugar addiction, don't yeah, don't learning.

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01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:14,920
Speaker 1: Sad to report sad to report that, although you may

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01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:17,320
Speaker 1: have heard me complain about having a sugar addiction and

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01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:21,680
Speaker 1: an older episode of the podcast that today as of

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Speaker 1: this recording on January thirty first, on twenty twenty two.

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01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 1: I still have quite the addiction to sugar. What's your game?

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01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:38,479
Speaker 1: Your what are you? What are your what's your stuff?

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01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:41,440
Speaker 1: What's your poison? What's your vice? Butterfingers?

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01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:42,200
Speaker 13: Right now?

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Speaker 18: What you, dude?

1136
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:44,760
Speaker 1: What's killing you?

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01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:45,200
Speaker 4: Dude?

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Speaker 13: I do?

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01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:50,640
Speaker 18: I do a sonic blast with butterfingers and Oreos. You

1140
01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:54,720
Speaker 18: get both and it's a dynamite combination, dude.

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01:08:55,040 --> 01:09:00,439
Speaker 1: You ever had for during Halloween, Baskin Robbins, We'll do

1142
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:05,200
Speaker 1: this flavor of Oreo called Oreo Trick or Treat and

1143
01:09:05,240 --> 01:09:10,559
Speaker 1: it's fucking Oreo cookie with butterfinger and Babe Ruth and

1144
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:15,439
Speaker 1: I think Heath bar all in one ice cream thing.

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01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:20,400
Speaker 18: That sounds heavenly, that sounds fantastic.

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01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:24,479
Speaker 1: Here's my thing. Tell me if you can relate to

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01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 1: this at all, because I'm going to give you sort

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01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:29,680
Speaker 1: of my thoughts about my whole thing, and then I

1149
01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:33,680
Speaker 1: want to hear yours. I'm so glad we we can

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01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:36,240
Speaker 1: talk about this because I most of my friends are

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01:09:36,280 --> 01:09:41,200
Speaker 1: like pretty like normal people when it comes to like

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01:09:41,240 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 1: how they eat and stuff, and I'm kind of not.

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01:09:44,320 --> 01:09:50,880
Speaker 1: I am backing, I'm back and forth between. My life

1154
01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:53,800
Speaker 1: would be a lot better. I'd feel better. I used

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01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:55,840
Speaker 1: to care about looking good. Now I don't. I only

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01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:59,080
Speaker 1: care about feeling good. But I would feel a lot

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01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:07,559
Speaker 1: better if I ate correctly. I didn't indulge and uh,

1158
01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:11,000
Speaker 1: you know, did push ups blah blah blah whatever. But

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01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:18,400
Speaker 1: I also fucking love I love eating oreo chok or

1160
01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:22,599
Speaker 1: treat ice cream. I love eating food, trying different foods,

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01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:25,720
Speaker 1: different candies or whatever whatever. There are definitely lots of

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01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:29,360
Speaker 1: times in which I overdo it and it's like totally overindulging.

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Speaker 1: But would my life be easier if I just continued

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01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:39,320
Speaker 1: living the way I lived but made it an intentional decision.

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01:10:39,439 --> 01:10:41,080
Speaker 1: And I was like, all right, I'm not gonna beat

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01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:43,880
Speaker 1: myself up over this anymore. I'm just gonna live this

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01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:49,240
Speaker 1: way unapologetically. And I'm in between those two things where

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01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:52,519
Speaker 1: if you're not if you're gonna, you know, eat a

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01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:55,559
Speaker 1: bunch of bad shit but then feel bad about it,

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01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:57,400
Speaker 1: then why are you even doing it? If you're gonna

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01:10:57,400 --> 01:10:59,120
Speaker 1: do it, you just commit to doing It'd be like, yeah,

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01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:01,600
Speaker 1: fuck it, I'm eating a butter finger breakfast, lunch and

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01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:03,840
Speaker 1: dinner bucket. This is my life. I accept that you'll

1174
01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:06,720
Speaker 1: be happier or you just go all in and you go, no,

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01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:09,479
Speaker 1: I'm not doing that anymore. And you know, but sitting

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01:11:09,479 --> 01:11:14,320
Speaker 1: on the fence like this is what's causing me the distress.

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Speaker 1: Can you relate to that at all?

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Speaker 18: Yeah? Yeah, I can relate to that, like radical acceptance

1179
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:27,559
Speaker 18: of Baskin Robbins for sure, you know, just yeah, I

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01:11:27,600 --> 01:11:31,920
Speaker 18: don't know, man, it's definitely. I feel like for me,

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01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:37,400
Speaker 18: it's a combination of a bunch of different things. I think. Well,

1182
01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:42,160
Speaker 18: the first thing is that, like I'm highly distractable, and

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01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:46,360
Speaker 18: so with any food, if I just have like a

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01:11:46,439 --> 01:11:49,040
Speaker 18: source of it somewhere near me, which is usually the case,

1185
01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:51,840
Speaker 18: I'll just go through the whole fucking thing without realizing,

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01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:56,600
Speaker 18: you know. So that's kind of one thing that I

1187
01:11:56,640 --> 01:11:59,240
Speaker 18: know about me. But yeah, what else.

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01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:02,439
Speaker 1: It's like where like you'll be like, oh, there's a

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01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:04,960
Speaker 1: box of cheese. It's like a whole box, and it'll

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01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:07,599
Speaker 1: start going on before you know it, the whole you

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01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:08,040
Speaker 1: ate the.

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Speaker 18: Whole brow It's funny you said cheese. Its I was

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01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:14,400
Speaker 18: literally taking care of my friend's dog and they had

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01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:16,960
Speaker 18: a I was like, oh shit, they had a family

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01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:20,640
Speaker 18: size thing of cheese. It's in the cupboard, and like

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01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:23,920
Speaker 18: I'm gonna lunch on these, and then over the weekend

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01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:25,680
Speaker 18: I just ate the whole damn thing by myself. I

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01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:28,519
Speaker 18: gave I gave like five cheese its to the dog

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Speaker 18: and the rest are for me.

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Speaker 1: I always every time there's a situation like that, I

1201
01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:38,439
Speaker 1: always sort of like overestimate what amounts of the box

1202
01:12:38,760 --> 01:12:42,960
Speaker 1: other people have eaten. Yeah, you know what I'm saying,

1203
01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:46,280
Speaker 1: You're eat the whole box. I gave the dog ten

1204
01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:48,640
Speaker 1: cheese its, where really you gave them only five? You know,

1205
01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:49,559
Speaker 1: I do that kind of thing.

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01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:54,439
Speaker 18: It's like the whole heap problem, where you know, like

1207
01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:57,639
Speaker 18: you have enough to say it's like a heap of something,

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01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:00,799
Speaker 18: but then you know, eventually it gets smaller and smaller,

1209
01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:02,559
Speaker 18: and then all of a sudden it's just like a

1210
01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:06,080
Speaker 18: few crumbs left over. So then you can't like justify

1211
01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:08,439
Speaker 18: it anymore. You gotta find you got to strike that balance.

1212
01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:12,479
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm hmmm. So have you ever made an attempt

1213
01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:17,240
Speaker 1: to cut out or or just in general to eat healthier,

1214
01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:20,320
Speaker 1: live live better and all that stuff.

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01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:27,400
Speaker 18: I've done really well before. Actually, Like so I guess

1216
01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:32,639
Speaker 18: I should say I have ADHD right, But I also

1217
01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:35,720
Speaker 18: have looked a lot into how to kind of work

1218
01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:40,040
Speaker 18: with that, and has been able to in the past

1219
01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:45,400
Speaker 18: tailor my surroundings to make it easier for me to

1220
01:13:46,040 --> 01:13:50,480
Speaker 18: uh make those decisions, because a big thing with ADHD

1221
01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:55,040
Speaker 18: is in impulsivity. Uh. And then I also like personally

1222
01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 18: can't I don't have no sense of time or you know,

1223
01:13:58,479 --> 01:14:03,759
Speaker 18: kind of talking earlier about you know, just mindlessly smacking

1224
01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:08,760
Speaker 18: a lot of that. But like, yeah, I'd always been

1225
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:11,400
Speaker 18: like lifting weights ever since high school. And then there's

1226
01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:15,839
Speaker 18: a point there where I was like in really great shape.

1227
01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:21,360
Speaker 18: You know, I was like, uh, bench pressing like a

1228
01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:24,559
Speaker 18: little bit more than my body weight and like twice

1229
01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:29,800
Speaker 18: my and I'd squatting like twice my body weight. And yeah,

1230
01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:33,240
Speaker 18: I wasn't like eating sugar at all besides like natural

1231
01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:36,479
Speaker 18: sugar and fruits and stuff, of course, But yeah, and

1232
01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:40,160
Speaker 18: then I just like, you know, it's it's ebb and flow.

1233
01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:47,320
Speaker 18: It's like, uh, you know, you flow into the deluge

1234
01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:50,760
Speaker 18: of like garbage food, right, and then then you come

1235
01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:53,280
Speaker 18: out after you've had enough, and then you know, you

1236
01:14:53,320 --> 01:14:55,439
Speaker 18: just go back down. But it's just over a long

1237
01:14:55,439 --> 01:14:56,080
Speaker 18: period of time.

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01:14:57,520 --> 01:15:02,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, do you so you've had multiple periods where

1239
01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:06,519
Speaker 1: you were like there wasn't a sort of first half

1240
01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:09,080
Speaker 1: in shape, second half out of shape. It was like

1241
01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:11,880
Speaker 1: a little bit of time in shape, you know, a

1242
01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:13,360
Speaker 1: little bit of time out of shape, a little bit

1243
01:15:13,320 --> 01:15:15,040
Speaker 1: of time in, a little time out, like sort of

1244
01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:17,440
Speaker 1: a back and forth type of thing.

1245
01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:23,240
Speaker 18: Yeah, it's that classic sort of yo yo, right. But

1246
01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:25,880
Speaker 18: I've always like loved food. And that's the thing is

1247
01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:27,479
Speaker 18: that you know, I go back to it because you know,

1248
01:15:27,479 --> 01:15:29,360
Speaker 18: it just tastes so good, and you know, I get

1249
01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:31,960
Speaker 18: really into cooking. That's usually that brings me back into

1250
01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:35,640
Speaker 18: it because I like make some homemade cookies or some

1251
01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:39,160
Speaker 18: shit and I'm like, oh damn, I forgot about these.

1252
01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:45,439
Speaker 1: M It's that's one of the tough things is that

1253
01:15:46,479 --> 01:15:49,479
Speaker 1: you can't like achieve fitness in the same way that

1254
01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:51,839
Speaker 1: you can achieve climbing to the top of a mountain.

1255
01:15:52,680 --> 01:16:00,799
Speaker 1: It's like it's an ever demanding thing to stay in shape.

1256
01:16:01,479 --> 01:16:04,320
Speaker 1: You know, I've gotten job a little bit like you

1257
01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:08,320
Speaker 1: Ebb and Flow. I've gotten in shape many times, but

1258
01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:12,280
Speaker 1: you really need to have it be a permanent lifestyle

1259
01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:19,519
Speaker 1: change to stay there. But we listen food, I'm like you,

1260
01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:22,000
Speaker 1: I love food, man, and so you know, it's it's

1261
01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:29,120
Speaker 1: hard to it's hard to stay in the healthy lifestyle

1262
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:32,280
Speaker 1: mindset for so long. I mean, you can do the keto,

1263
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:34,720
Speaker 1: you can do the whatever, you can do the you know,

1264
01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:40,240
Speaker 1: you're oh, I'm gonna only eat vegetables every Tuesday, whatever

1265
01:16:40,280 --> 01:16:42,719
Speaker 1: your thing is. But if you can't do that for

1266
01:16:42,760 --> 01:16:46,639
Speaker 1: your entire life, you're eventually gonna, you know, balloon back up.

1267
01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:50,480
Speaker 18: Yeah, you're just gonna You're just gonna die eventually.

1268
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:50,720
Speaker 5: You know.

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01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:56,439
Speaker 18: It's kinna No, I think that, uh, you know, you

1270
01:16:56,479 --> 01:16:58,880
Speaker 18: can do it. I think you can have a good

1271
01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:01,880
Speaker 18: balance of both. It will eventually happen, I feel like

1272
01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:02,840
Speaker 18: for the both of us.

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01:17:03,240 --> 01:17:04,360
Speaker 13: And uh, but.

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01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:08,960
Speaker 18: Yeah, you just gotta yeah, accept that you're gonna be

1275
01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:11,599
Speaker 18: like somewhere in the middle, you know, and then eventually

1276
01:17:11,640 --> 01:17:13,320
Speaker 18: it will just like level out there.

1277
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:19,920
Speaker 1: What'd you say? Your name was, Man, Forest Forrest. I

1278
01:17:19,960 --> 01:17:24,640
Speaker 1: will see you at Pete today at Planet Fitness.

1279
01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:29,040
Speaker 18: All right, man, you have a good night, my getto friends.

1280
01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:30,559
Speaker 1: Take care baby.

1281
01:17:31,439 --> 01:17:31,719
Speaker 7: Hello.

1282
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:33,920
Speaker 1: Hello is this Eden?

1283
01:17:35,280 --> 01:17:36,559
Speaker 4: Yes? Hi Lyle?

1284
01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:41,880
Speaker 1: Hello Eden? How are you? Oh?

1285
01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:45,400
Speaker 5: I am fucking tastic now.

1286
01:17:47,240 --> 01:17:52,120
Speaker 1: Uh here And you brought up two things that you

1287
01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:55,360
Speaker 1: wanted to talk about. One was about your jaw and

1288
01:17:55,400 --> 01:17:57,000
Speaker 1: the other one was that you said you're having a

1289
01:17:57,120 --> 01:18:03,880
Speaker 1: gender crisis. Now. Of those two things, let's let's talk

1290
01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:05,080
Speaker 1: about one or the other.

1291
01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:08,920
Speaker 5: Personally, I'd personally to talk about the gender issue, but

1292
01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:09,679
Speaker 5: you can pick.

1293
01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:13,080
Speaker 1: Really sure, let's talk about the gender issue. But is

1294
01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:17,320
Speaker 1: do you have? Do you have pronouns or or an

1295
01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:19,439
Speaker 1: identity of which that you would like us in the

1296
01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:22,920
Speaker 1: chat to to refer to you by this current moment.

1297
01:18:25,320 --> 01:18:29,360
Speaker 5: Right now, we're just going to go for them pronouns

1298
01:18:29,640 --> 01:18:31,320
Speaker 5: beautiful and like just neutrality.

1299
01:18:31,800 --> 01:18:34,880
Speaker 1: I don't know, So what's what is this? What is

1300
01:18:34,920 --> 01:18:36,160
Speaker 1: this crisis?

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Speaker 10: Eden?

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Speaker 5: So I in twenty fourteen. In twenty fourteen, I team

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01:18:49,320 --> 01:18:56,040
Speaker 5: out as a trans man, and so I can't started transitioning.

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Speaker 1: Real quick, real quick, quick, real quick, real quick before it.

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01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:01,920
Speaker 1: But am I on like eagerphone or headset or like

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Speaker 1: anything other than you just holding the phone to your man?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, let me fix that?

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Speaker 1: Beautiful?

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Speaker 12: Is that better?

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01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:14,679
Speaker 1: Much better? Continue? What were you saying? You said something

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Speaker 1: about twenty fourteen?

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Speaker 10: Okay, Yeah, so I came out as trans. I came

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01:19:19,680 --> 01:19:23,280
Speaker 10: out as a trans man female to male in twenty

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Speaker 10: fourteen and started my transition from there, just so that

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Speaker 10: I can put my head. Okay, And you know, so

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Speaker 10: I've been living my life as a man since for

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Speaker 10: what is that almost eight years now.

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Speaker 1: And damn it, eight years.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, May twenty fourteen is when I came out.

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Speaker 1: I go, sorry, I interrupted you with my realization of

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01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:53,080
Speaker 1: the passage of time.

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Speaker 10: No, you're all good, it's been it's been a fat

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01:19:56,840 --> 01:20:03,680
Speaker 10: fucking minute, and like, okay, so god, okay. So I

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01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:08,400
Speaker 10: was engaged to another transman for a couple of years,

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Speaker 10: and at some point in our relationship, I realized that I.

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01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:17,320
Speaker 12: Don't identify as a man anymore.

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01:20:18,439 --> 01:20:21,719
Speaker 4: And the thing.

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Speaker 10: Is, I got top surgery, So I got my breasts removed,

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01:20:24,720 --> 01:20:28,439
Speaker 10: I got my name legally changed. I look like a man.

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Speaker 10: I've lived my life as a man for you know,

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01:20:32,080 --> 01:20:35,160
Speaker 10: my entire adult life so far. I'm almost twenty one,

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Speaker 10: and you know, I have been since fucking middle school.

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01:20:40,280 --> 01:20:46,200
Speaker 10: And I couldn't talk to him about it because he

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01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:49,120
Speaker 10: wasn't able to get surgery, he wasn't able to change

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01:20:49,160 --> 01:20:53,880
Speaker 10: his name, and he got personally very offended that I

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01:20:53,920 --> 01:20:57,840
Speaker 10: could have regrets about these privileges that I was given.

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01:20:58,840 --> 01:21:04,600
Speaker 10: And so yeah, so he made his you know, his

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01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:07,439
Speaker 10: issues mine, and it just forced me back into the

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01:21:07,479 --> 01:21:13,840
Speaker 10: closet basically. And so the best that I could get

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01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:17,400
Speaker 10: away with without starting a fight at home was coming

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Speaker 10: out as non binary. So I've been living my best

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01:21:21,720 --> 01:21:25,479
Speaker 10: day them life for like eight months, but I'm still

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01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:26,960
Speaker 10: not happy.

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Speaker 1: And you're no, go ahead. I want to want to

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Speaker 1: be finish for before I chime him.

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Speaker 10: Okay, no worries, but see, it all came to a

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01:21:38,479 --> 01:21:40,800
Speaker 10: head this morning. So I started dating assist man. So

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01:21:40,880 --> 01:21:43,799
Speaker 10: I started dating a man who was born with a penis, right, and.

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01:21:43,760 --> 01:21:45,960
Speaker 1: Uh, so you broke up. So you broke up with

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01:21:46,160 --> 01:21:47,360
Speaker 1: the other guy that you were seeing.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, we broke up like six months ago. And

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01:21:54,600 --> 01:21:58,439
Speaker 10: so I'm dating a new guy now and I just

1353
01:21:58,439 --> 01:22:00,280
Speaker 10: got a new job. He bought me a p of

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01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:04,000
Speaker 10: work pants from the women's section and they gave me

1355
01:22:04,160 --> 01:22:07,760
Speaker 10: Kim Possible vibes. I felt like Kim Possible wearing them,

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01:22:07,960 --> 01:22:11,720
Speaker 10: and it made me fucking songs. I just I was like,

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01:22:11,840 --> 01:22:16,559
Speaker 10: holy shit, but you know, and I just it was

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01:22:16,640 --> 01:22:20,120
Speaker 10: this sense of gender euphoria that I haven't felt in

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01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:24,280
Speaker 10: fucking years. And like, I just realized, I want to

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01:22:24,280 --> 01:22:26,439
Speaker 10: wear dresses and I want to have long hair, and

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01:22:26,479 --> 01:22:27,960
Speaker 10: I want to be pretty, and I don't want to

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01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:30,120
Speaker 10: be as boyfriend. I want to be his fucking girlfriend.

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01:22:30,200 --> 01:22:35,519
Speaker 10: And like, it's just I spent so long working the

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01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:38,960
Speaker 10: transphobia out of my family and working my way into

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01:22:39,000 --> 01:22:42,920
Speaker 10: being respected as a man, only for all of this

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01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:45,120
Speaker 10: to come tumbling down, and I want to undo it.

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01:22:45,160 --> 01:22:48,040
Speaker 10: And it's just like, oh, the trauma. I don't want

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01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:49,840
Speaker 10: to go through the trauma again, you.

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Speaker 12: Know, And so I don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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01:22:56,800 --> 01:22:57,679
Speaker 12: I've been listening.

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01:22:57,960 --> 01:23:00,439
Speaker 10: I started from the very beginning of you know what

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01:23:00,479 --> 01:23:05,479
Speaker 10: you've uploaded on Spotify, and and I've met you, and

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Speaker 10: I have talked before, talked to you, and I and

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01:23:08,280 --> 01:23:10,680
Speaker 10: my friend Shannon I talked a few months ago in

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01:23:10,720 --> 01:23:14,400
Speaker 10: September when I first diagnosed with borderline personality disorder.

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Speaker 1: Remember yeah, he didn't, Yes, well you so let'sen all right?

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Speaker 16: So so so uh, let's see, Okay, So you were

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01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:33,439
Speaker 16: born female, your top surgery and or you came out

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01:23:33,560 --> 01:23:37,439
Speaker 16: in as a as a transman in twenty fourteen, you

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01:23:37,520 --> 01:23:42,719
Speaker 16: had your surgery, and you lived as a transman for

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01:23:43,560 --> 01:23:44,200
Speaker 16: eight years.

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01:23:44,280 --> 01:23:50,840
Speaker 1: You said, yeah, and then now you tried on the

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01:23:50,880 --> 01:23:54,800
Speaker 1: kimpossible pants And am I here? Am I hearing that

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01:23:55,000 --> 01:23:58,160
Speaker 1: you are like, oh shit, now you want to like,

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01:23:58,400 --> 01:24:01,840
Speaker 1: you know, be more more eminem and you you and you,

1387
01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:04,720
Speaker 1: and you're looking to Here's the thing with all this,

1388
01:24:04,840 --> 01:24:07,880
Speaker 1: by the way, is like maybe maybe I don't know,

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01:24:07,880 --> 01:24:10,320
Speaker 1: maybe there's a little bit of like sunk cost fallacy

1390
01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:13,680
Speaker 1: here where like, oh, you lived is one thing for

1391
01:24:14,760 --> 01:24:17,600
Speaker 1: so long, right, and you did all that work to

1392
01:24:17,760 --> 01:24:21,519
Speaker 1: like convince your family you know, you have to deal

1393
01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:23,280
Speaker 1: with you said, you said to deal with a bunch

1394
01:24:23,280 --> 01:24:27,880
Speaker 1: of bullshit for like a year, and so now you're like, well, fuck,

1395
01:24:27,880 --> 01:24:29,760
Speaker 1: I have to deal with all that bullshit and I

1396
01:24:29,760 --> 01:24:31,719
Speaker 1: want to go back And is that and that's fucking

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01:24:31,720 --> 01:24:31,960
Speaker 1: with you?

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01:24:33,920 --> 01:24:35,600
Speaker 7: Yeah?

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01:24:36,160 --> 01:24:38,880
Speaker 10: Yeah, And I basically I just want to like I

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01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:41,679
Speaker 10: just want to move away and startle for where nobody

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01:24:41,720 --> 01:24:43,360
Speaker 10: knows who the fuck I am and I can just

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01:24:44,360 --> 01:24:49,600
Speaker 10: be me without having to explain the transness.

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01:24:49,720 --> 01:24:49,960
Speaker 9: You know.

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01:24:52,040 --> 01:24:55,120
Speaker 10: But I just started this job and I don't have

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01:24:55,240 --> 01:24:57,080
Speaker 10: any fucking money, and like.

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01:24:58,000 --> 01:25:00,000
Speaker 12: Oh, it's so obnoxious.

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01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:03,599
Speaker 10: Why did I have to have this realization at seven

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01:25:03,640 --> 01:25:07,240
Speaker 10: in the morning putting on a pair of pants.

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01:25:08,360 --> 01:25:12,800
Speaker 1: By the way, okay, listen, I know you're looking at this,

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01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:14,680
Speaker 1: and and by the way, I just want to say

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01:25:14,720 --> 01:25:17,280
Speaker 1: I just want to like disclaim I want to disclaim

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01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:20,360
Speaker 1: this real quick because I like to disclaim this when

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01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:23,560
Speaker 1: I'm dealing with these kinds of issues because I am

1414
01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:29,080
Speaker 1: a sis straight guy, so I can't truly with what

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01:25:29,120 --> 01:25:31,160
Speaker 1: you're going through. So I just like to disclaim that

1416
01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:33,840
Speaker 1: up front before I talk about these kind of things

1417
01:25:34,240 --> 01:25:37,160
Speaker 1: so that people are like, because you know, it's important

1418
01:25:37,160 --> 01:25:41,559
Speaker 1: to disclaim that. But I do feel like it's it's

1419
01:25:41,640 --> 01:25:43,559
Speaker 1: it's it's just it's one of the things of like

1420
01:25:43,640 --> 01:25:47,240
Speaker 1: feeling like, you know, I think it's a good thing

1421
01:25:47,880 --> 01:25:52,240
Speaker 1: to like change, go back and forth, Like that's a strength.

1422
01:25:52,280 --> 01:25:57,400
Speaker 1: It's a strength to like know, oh, this isn't for me,

1423
01:25:57,600 --> 01:25:59,880
Speaker 1: I gotta go back, right Because if if you truly

1424
01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:03,080
Speaker 1: I do feel like you're a woman and you want

1425
01:26:03,120 --> 01:26:08,240
Speaker 1: to go back to living like that, why should the

1426
01:26:08,439 --> 01:26:14,240
Speaker 1: past define whether or not you can do that?

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01:26:15,920 --> 01:26:16,120
Speaker 7: Right?

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01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:20,840
Speaker 1: Like like like why like why be chained? And I

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01:26:20,920 --> 01:26:22,720
Speaker 1: get it? I get there, Like, fuck, I just went

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01:26:22,720 --> 01:26:27,960
Speaker 1: through all that stuff I lived eight years, but like

1431
01:26:28,040 --> 01:26:32,640
Speaker 1: you're not, You're not chained to the past, right, I.

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01:26:34,200 --> 01:26:34,400
Speaker 2: Get.

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01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:36,960
Speaker 1: I get where these feelings are coming from, at least

1434
01:26:36,960 --> 01:26:40,360
Speaker 1: if they get it. But I don't. I don't feel

1435
01:26:40,360 --> 01:26:42,680
Speaker 1: like you should be chained to the past, Like how

1436
01:26:42,680 --> 01:26:44,840
Speaker 1: old are you? Twenty one?

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01:26:46,280 --> 01:26:46,880
Speaker 12: Yeah? Almost?

1438
01:26:49,439 --> 01:26:53,400
Speaker 1: Until well, shit, dude, like you you're twelve and you

1439
01:26:53,479 --> 01:26:56,200
Speaker 1: have years and years and years ahead of you to

1440
01:26:56,240 --> 01:26:58,840
Speaker 1: go live as a beautiful woman and wear all the

1441
01:26:58,920 --> 01:27:03,920
Speaker 1: dresses you want. You know, why, why why at twenty

1442
01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:07,519
Speaker 1: one would you want to be like, well, I've lived

1443
01:27:07,520 --> 01:27:09,360
Speaker 1: this way my whole life, so I have to live

1444
01:27:09,360 --> 01:27:13,479
Speaker 1: the rest of my life this way. I don't know

1445
01:27:13,760 --> 01:27:15,360
Speaker 1: that that's how I feel.

1446
01:27:17,439 --> 01:27:20,320
Speaker 10: That's yeah, that's pretty much what my boyfriend said, but

1447
01:27:20,520 --> 01:27:21,880
Speaker 10: it hits different coming from you.

1448
01:27:21,960 --> 01:27:22,639
Speaker 11: For some reason.

1449
01:27:24,960 --> 01:27:27,559
Speaker 1: I have the object, I have the I have the

1450
01:27:27,720 --> 01:27:31,080
Speaker 1: uh the gecko third party.

1451
01:27:31,880 --> 01:27:33,679
Speaker 12: But right, no, I mean.

1452
01:27:33,560 --> 01:27:35,760
Speaker 1: That's that's how that's how I feel. It's like, you know,

1453
01:27:35,840 --> 01:27:38,280
Speaker 1: if you've been living the way that you've lived in

1454
01:27:38,320 --> 01:27:42,200
Speaker 1: the past, you shouldn't have any you know, effect on

1455
01:27:42,280 --> 01:27:46,800
Speaker 1: how you live to the future, right Like whatever, man

1456
01:27:46,880 --> 01:27:54,799
Speaker 1: put the put that chapter behind you and fucking go

1457
01:27:54,800 --> 01:27:59,000
Speaker 1: go go live, go fuck it, go live be a

1458
01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:02,519
Speaker 1: woman for a year. You be non binary for if

1459
01:28:02,680 --> 01:28:05,559
Speaker 1: swept and sweat do who cares? Why are you ever

1460
01:28:05,600 --> 01:28:10,120
Speaker 1: behold You're never beholden to be what you once were, right,

1461
01:28:10,880 --> 01:28:15,920
Speaker 1: you know, right, that's how I heard how I feel.

1462
01:28:15,920 --> 01:28:18,479
Speaker 1: I don't know if I don't know if this was helpful. Again,

1463
01:28:18,680 --> 01:28:20,840
Speaker 1: you know, I'm happy to talk about these things, but

1464
01:28:20,960 --> 01:28:23,519
Speaker 1: I don't like talk about it too much because I'm

1465
01:28:23,960 --> 01:28:27,120
Speaker 1: you know, I can't fully empathize with the situation and

1466
01:28:27,200 --> 01:28:31,360
Speaker 1: not my place and all that. But you know, I

1467
01:28:31,680 --> 01:28:32,519
Speaker 1: hope that was helpful.

1468
01:28:34,120 --> 01:28:36,519
Speaker 10: No, it was, it was, And like, I don't know,

1469
01:28:36,560 --> 01:28:38,439
Speaker 10: you were one of the first people that I thought

1470
01:28:38,439 --> 01:28:41,600
Speaker 10: of when it when the whole realization came, because you know,

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01:28:41,760 --> 01:28:44,200
Speaker 10: I work eight and a half hour days and I

1472
01:28:44,360 --> 01:28:47,360
Speaker 10: listened to your show on Spotify. I started from the

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01:28:47,520 --> 01:28:50,840
Speaker 10: very first Spotify episode and I'm just listening from the

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01:28:50,840 --> 01:28:54,080
Speaker 10: fucking beginning, you know, I fucking.

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01:28:54,320 --> 01:28:58,000
Speaker 12: Like, I don't know. Every time something I emailed.

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01:28:57,600 --> 01:28:59,840
Speaker 10: You a couple of months ago, every time something big happens,

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01:28:59,840 --> 01:29:02,479
Speaker 10: I just want to know what the fucking gag thinks O.

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01:29:03,640 --> 01:29:05,040
Speaker 12: You know, like, I don't know.

1479
01:29:06,360 --> 01:29:08,280
Speaker 10: I know you're not like a real therapist, but you're

1480
01:29:08,320 --> 01:29:11,599
Speaker 10: a real person and you have good things to say,

1481
01:29:11,720 --> 01:29:13,040
Speaker 10: you have good input usually.

1482
01:29:13,280 --> 01:29:17,040
Speaker 1: Well, thank you very much, Eden, again, wishing you the

1483
01:29:17,080 --> 01:29:21,200
Speaker 1: courage to not let the past to find you given

1484
01:29:21,240 --> 01:29:25,280
Speaker 1: your gecko energy and thank you for condy and you

1485
01:29:25,280 --> 01:29:27,280
Speaker 1: have a good rest of the name cow.

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01:29:29,720 --> 01:29:32,479
Speaker 13: Yes as le.

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01:29:36,720 --> 01:29:36,880
Speaker 7: Hey.

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01:29:37,080 --> 01:29:41,000
Speaker 13: While so I kind of want to talk today. It

1489
01:29:41,000 --> 01:29:43,360
Speaker 13: seems like the subject had kind of been changing to

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01:29:43,560 --> 01:29:46,800
Speaker 13: morality and this kind of fits me. I really haven't

1491
01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:51,760
Speaker 13: told anyone this other than the screener before. I'm gonna

1492
01:29:51,760 --> 01:29:54,760
Speaker 13: make it short. And you know this is a no

1493
01:29:54,880 --> 01:29:58,839
Speaker 13: judge in free zone. So a little background. I trained

1494
01:29:58,880 --> 01:30:03,040
Speaker 13: people how to fly planes and small engine planes, and

1495
01:30:03,120 --> 01:30:07,559
Speaker 13: normally there's weight limits. Well, I had someone that was

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01:30:07,760 --> 01:30:12,160
Speaker 13: critically obese, let's say about three hundred and fifty pounds. Well,

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01:30:12,200 --> 01:30:14,240
Speaker 13: I didn't want to fly him because it's a safety issue.

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01:30:14,360 --> 01:30:18,280
Speaker 13: My boss is money hungry, so because of that, I

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01:30:18,360 --> 01:30:21,200
Speaker 13: was doing things that I could legally do, like taking

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01:30:21,240 --> 01:30:23,640
Speaker 13: out fuel and not being able to complete all the

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01:30:23,640 --> 01:30:27,840
Speaker 13: flights I could. Well, one day he's good enough to

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01:30:27,920 --> 01:30:31,439
Speaker 13: go for like a check to see his performance, so

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01:30:31,479 --> 01:30:34,760
Speaker 13: my boss has got to fly him. Well, they weren't

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01:30:34,800 --> 01:30:37,080
Speaker 13: able to complete the whole flight because of his weight,

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01:30:37,760 --> 01:30:40,479
Speaker 13: and so the boss sits there and gets a scale

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01:30:40,520 --> 01:30:42,400
Speaker 13: out and it's one of these old medical scales in

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01:30:42,439 --> 01:30:45,479
Speaker 13: his office and they're all standing there. He hops on

1508
01:30:45,560 --> 01:30:48,280
Speaker 13: the scale. They're looking at it, trying to size it up,

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01:30:48,320 --> 01:30:52,000
Speaker 13: and I might have put my foot on there to

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01:30:52,080 --> 01:30:54,800
Speaker 13: make it exaggerate even more than what he already weighs.

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01:30:55,560 --> 01:30:58,400
Speaker 13: So because of that, it shows that he's about right

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01:30:58,439 --> 01:31:01,479
Speaker 13: around four hundred. Boss tells him, you know, he can't

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01:31:01,680 --> 01:31:06,640
Speaker 13: fly anymore, and the kid is heart broken. But my

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01:31:07,640 --> 01:31:10,240
Speaker 13: morality is in question because I have done something wrong.

1515
01:31:10,400 --> 01:31:15,880
Speaker 13: This kid has spent thousands of dollars, but now he's

1516
01:31:15,920 --> 01:31:19,200
Speaker 13: lost like over one hundred pounds and is trying to

1517
01:31:19,200 --> 01:31:23,240
Speaker 13: get back into flying. So I also feel partially responsible

1518
01:31:23,280 --> 01:31:26,280
Speaker 13: for his newfound success and for him to further on.

1519
01:31:26,600 --> 01:31:29,639
Speaker 13: And I can't tell anybody or say anything about it

1520
01:31:29,760 --> 01:31:31,800
Speaker 13: because I feel so wrong about what I did in

1521
01:31:31,840 --> 01:31:34,400
Speaker 13: that room, and it was just me that knows.

1522
01:31:35,840 --> 01:31:39,280
Speaker 1: So here's what I don't fully. Here's what I kind

1523
01:31:39,280 --> 01:31:44,120
Speaker 1: of some clarification on is So this kid was to

1524
01:31:44,240 --> 01:31:51,080
Speaker 1: obese to fly safely correct and you said you put

1525
01:31:51,120 --> 01:31:52,720
Speaker 1: a little bit about You said you you sort of

1526
01:31:52,840 --> 01:31:54,640
Speaker 1: fucked with the weighing process and put a little bit

1527
01:31:54,640 --> 01:31:57,360
Speaker 1: extra weight on him. Do you think that had you?

1528
01:31:58,000 --> 01:32:02,719
Speaker 1: I mean, if he was already obese did the extra

1529
01:32:02,800 --> 01:32:07,439
Speaker 1: weight that you put on the scale even affects the

1530
01:32:07,560 --> 01:32:09,679
Speaker 1: sort of final decision of whether or not he could fly?

1531
01:32:11,640 --> 01:32:11,840
Speaker 12: You know?

1532
01:32:11,960 --> 01:32:14,559
Speaker 13: And that's a good question. I like to think. I

1533
01:32:14,600 --> 01:32:17,160
Speaker 13: tell myself that maybe I wasn't all responsible for it,

1534
01:32:17,240 --> 01:32:18,880
Speaker 13: but I did just put my foot on the back.

1535
01:32:19,400 --> 01:32:21,639
Speaker 13: But I had seen him around. It's a small town,

1536
01:32:21,640 --> 01:32:24,040
Speaker 13: in a grocery store, and the car is full of

1537
01:32:24,080 --> 01:32:27,880
Speaker 13: more two leaders than anything I've ever seen, and more

1538
01:32:28,320 --> 01:32:32,040
Speaker 13: little debu cakes than any actual greens or foods. So

1539
01:32:32,200 --> 01:32:34,160
Speaker 13: maybe he actually did weigh That is what I tell

1540
01:32:34,200 --> 01:32:36,439
Speaker 13: myself at night to sleep better. But I just I

1541
01:32:36,439 --> 01:32:39,679
Speaker 13: don't know gek, and it's ate me alive. But again,

1542
01:32:39,720 --> 01:32:43,360
Speaker 13: I still feel partially responsible for his success to lose

1543
01:32:43,439 --> 01:32:45,599
Speaker 13: over one hundred pounds and be able to safely return

1544
01:32:45,640 --> 01:32:45,960
Speaker 13: to flying.

1545
01:32:47,120 --> 01:32:51,360
Speaker 1: So why again, I know, that's our clarification is why

1546
01:32:51,400 --> 01:32:56,519
Speaker 1: did you put your foot on the scale? Was the intention?

1547
01:32:56,720 --> 01:32:59,559
Speaker 1: So that was it? Like you had the intention to

1548
01:32:59,600 --> 01:33:01,760
Speaker 1: protect Tim? Was it that you just didn't want to

1549
01:33:01,800 --> 01:33:04,240
Speaker 1: fly and a plane with him because you were afraid?

1550
01:33:04,880 --> 01:33:07,000
Speaker 1: You know? What? Was what was the intention behind that?

1551
01:33:08,680 --> 01:33:08,960
Speaker 12: Okay?

1552
01:33:09,000 --> 01:33:12,200
Speaker 13: Well, to be completely honest, when I first met him,

1553
01:33:12,280 --> 01:33:15,240
Speaker 13: I was very honest. I said, hey, your weight is

1554
01:33:15,240 --> 01:33:17,320
Speaker 13: pretty high. If you want to be a professional pilot

1555
01:33:17,320 --> 01:33:21,439
Speaker 13: one day, like you're gonna have to lose your weight. Well,

1556
01:33:21,439 --> 01:33:23,639
Speaker 13: he found he found a doctor that says he's good

1557
01:33:23,680 --> 01:33:26,559
Speaker 13: to go, which should have been a red flag. And

1558
01:33:26,600 --> 01:33:29,120
Speaker 13: then I'm having to take out a lot of fuel

1559
01:33:29,160 --> 01:33:31,160
Speaker 13: out of the plane. So instead of doing two to

1560
01:33:31,200 --> 01:33:33,800
Speaker 13: three hour flights, I'm only able to do one hour.

1561
01:33:34,200 --> 01:33:36,880
Speaker 13: And he says he's losing weight and he's drinking water

1562
01:33:36,920 --> 01:33:39,559
Speaker 13: around me, which I think is right. And so I

1563
01:33:39,640 --> 01:33:41,559
Speaker 13: was like, you know what, my boss is money hungry.

1564
01:33:41,640 --> 01:33:43,519
Speaker 13: This kid doesn't want to listen to me. It seems

1565
01:33:43,560 --> 01:33:45,280
Speaker 13: like nobody in the world was listening to me when

1566
01:33:45,280 --> 01:33:47,000
Speaker 13: I'm just trying to be safe. So I was like,

1567
01:33:47,360 --> 01:33:49,479
Speaker 13: I'm gonna if he steps on the scale, and he did,

1568
01:33:49,520 --> 01:33:50,800
Speaker 13: I was like, I'm put my foot on the.

1569
01:33:50,720 --> 01:33:51,200
Speaker 12: Back of it.

1570
01:33:54,320 --> 01:33:59,120
Speaker 1: M Yeah, this is a classic Like this is a

1571
01:33:59,120 --> 01:34:07,439
Speaker 1: classic thing of a moral dilemma where you perform an

1572
01:34:07,479 --> 01:34:10,439
Speaker 1: action that you seem to and I gain. I'm not

1573
01:34:10,479 --> 01:34:13,080
Speaker 1: here to interpret what is or is not moral. I'm

1574
01:34:13,120 --> 01:34:15,800
Speaker 1: just talking along with you as you're sort of telling

1575
01:34:15,840 --> 01:34:18,680
Speaker 1: me all this. So you're doing what you consider to

1576
01:34:18,760 --> 01:34:21,720
Speaker 1: being a moral action by putting your foot down on

1577
01:34:21,800 --> 01:34:25,720
Speaker 1: the scale, and you're doing it with what could be

1578
01:34:25,800 --> 01:34:30,800
Speaker 1: considered a virtuous intention, which is trying to keep this

1579
01:34:30,880 --> 01:34:33,640
Speaker 1: guy from being in a plane that crashes to the

1580
01:34:33,640 --> 01:34:35,000
Speaker 1: ground and kills everyone in it.

1581
01:34:37,240 --> 01:34:40,920
Speaker 13: Yeah, but it almost feels like, you know we were

1582
01:34:40,960 --> 01:34:43,360
Speaker 13: talking earlier in the show. You're talking about you know,

1583
01:34:43,560 --> 01:34:46,120
Speaker 13: what is life? And who is me? And where are

1584
01:34:46,160 --> 01:34:48,840
Speaker 13: we the real me? The real question I have is

1585
01:34:48,960 --> 01:34:51,280
Speaker 13: then it kind of drives me to like who do

1586
01:34:51,360 --> 01:34:53,160
Speaker 13: I talk to if I can't talk to anyone? Well,

1587
01:34:53,200 --> 01:34:55,920
Speaker 13: in Cartholicism, they talk to the priest and they give

1588
01:34:55,960 --> 01:34:57,920
Speaker 13: off their sins and they do a hell Mary and

1589
01:34:57,920 --> 01:35:01,080
Speaker 13: and they're let go. Where is my redemption in that?

1590
01:35:01,360 --> 01:35:03,519
Speaker 13: And does the priest even feel the type of weight

1591
01:35:03,560 --> 01:35:05,080
Speaker 13: of their sins? Like how do they go home with

1592
01:35:05,080 --> 01:35:05,439
Speaker 13: their day?

1593
01:35:08,560 --> 01:35:09,839
Speaker 1: Are you? Are you a Catholic?

1594
01:35:12,000 --> 01:35:13,200
Speaker 13: I am agnostic?

1595
01:35:14,680 --> 01:35:20,360
Speaker 1: Okay, So you feel as though you have a heavy

1596
01:35:20,400 --> 01:35:27,880
Speaker 1: weight to bear with your own actions and what you

1597
01:35:27,920 --> 01:35:31,479
Speaker 1: considered to be sins, and you're sort of left to

1598
01:35:31,560 --> 01:35:36,479
Speaker 1: your own devices on how to sit with these things.

1599
01:35:37,960 --> 01:35:40,360
Speaker 13: Yeah, and then I just the worst part is is

1600
01:35:40,439 --> 01:35:42,599
Speaker 13: when I tell you it's small town. It's a small town.

1601
01:35:43,040 --> 01:35:45,120
Speaker 13: I don't tell people what I do for a living.

1602
01:35:45,200 --> 01:35:47,479
Speaker 13: I like to say that I teach. And I meet

1603
01:35:47,479 --> 01:35:50,439
Speaker 13: a girl and she's talking about how she's been on

1604
01:35:50,439 --> 01:35:53,439
Speaker 13: her brother, her little brother, about losing weight, and I'm like, oh,

1605
01:35:53,479 --> 01:35:55,400
Speaker 13: I know what you mean. I'm kind of understudent. I

1606
01:35:55,439 --> 01:35:58,320
Speaker 13: really need to lose weight. And then it turns out

1607
01:35:58,640 --> 01:36:02,919
Speaker 13: that she's actually related to him because she just randomly

1608
01:36:03,000 --> 01:36:05,800
Speaker 13: name dropped him one time, and I get scared because

1609
01:36:05,800 --> 01:36:08,240
Speaker 13: I'm like, oh my god, I'm now in the universe

1610
01:36:08,400 --> 01:36:11,639
Speaker 13: is punishing me because I like this girl. And now

1611
01:36:11,720 --> 01:36:13,680
Speaker 13: I feel like, how am I ever going to overcome

1612
01:36:14,600 --> 01:36:17,720
Speaker 13: doing this to that kid? And then just keep this

1613
01:36:17,840 --> 01:36:19,920
Speaker 13: a secret forever? Where's my confession?

1614
01:36:23,880 --> 01:36:25,960
Speaker 1: Are you against confessing? And even if you were to,

1615
01:36:26,200 --> 01:36:27,960
Speaker 1: who would you confess to? Would you confess to the kid?

1616
01:36:28,200 --> 01:36:31,880
Speaker 1: Are you still working with him?

1617
01:36:32,120 --> 01:36:33,439
Speaker 13: I'm at a whole different place.

1618
01:36:33,560 --> 01:36:34,160
Speaker 7: I delete it.

1619
01:36:34,240 --> 01:36:36,720
Speaker 13: I was just toxic, and I was more scared of

1620
01:36:37,920 --> 01:36:40,040
Speaker 13: what if there's someone else like this because I could

1621
01:36:40,080 --> 01:36:44,080
Speaker 13: see myself easily doing this again. But to confess it

1622
01:36:44,400 --> 01:36:48,000
Speaker 13: to him, I would feel more comfortable confessing to the

1623
01:36:48,000 --> 01:36:51,280
Speaker 13: girl it's related to him, because you know, maybe she

1624
01:36:51,400 --> 01:36:53,280
Speaker 13: can judge me for my character and say, you know,

1625
01:36:53,320 --> 01:36:56,559
Speaker 13: maybe you did the right thing even though it was wrong.

1626
01:36:56,800 --> 01:37:00,040
Speaker 13: I don't know. Gex I'm just morally confused and it

1627
01:37:00,120 --> 01:37:01,720
Speaker 13: keeps me up. I can't even tell my friends about

1628
01:37:01,720 --> 01:37:03,080
Speaker 13: it because I'm scared of what they'll think.

1629
01:37:06,400 --> 01:37:13,920
Speaker 1: I'll tell you the the sort of thought in my

1630
01:37:14,080 --> 01:37:16,759
Speaker 1: head of like, if you need something to do, because

1631
01:37:16,800 --> 01:37:18,120
Speaker 1: you seem like you need something to do, you have

1632
01:37:18,160 --> 01:37:22,680
Speaker 1: this like restless again armchair gecko therapy, but you have

1633
01:37:22,760 --> 01:37:28,320
Speaker 1: this like restless feeling within you that's caused by like,

1634
01:37:29,360 --> 01:37:31,560
Speaker 1: you know, you feeling like you don't know whether or

1635
01:37:31,600 --> 01:37:36,200
Speaker 1: not you did the right thing. So I don't know,

1636
01:37:36,240 --> 01:37:39,680
Speaker 1: we can't really take back our actions or anything. I

1637
01:37:39,720 --> 01:37:42,160
Speaker 1: mean when you're referring to this whole thing of like

1638
01:37:42,760 --> 01:37:44,960
Speaker 1: you can go to the confession area and you can

1639
01:37:45,000 --> 01:37:47,480
Speaker 1: tell the priest what you did, and then it's absolved

1640
01:37:47,520 --> 01:37:49,200
Speaker 1: and you can move past that. You can move on.

1641
01:37:50,960 --> 01:37:57,880
Speaker 1: Maybe you just absolve yourself and then moving forward, right,

1642
01:37:58,320 --> 01:38:02,200
Speaker 1: whatever sort of virtue thing you were trying to accomplish,

1643
01:38:03,680 --> 01:38:07,320
Speaker 1: keeping this guy safe, encouraging him to be healthy, whatever

1644
01:38:07,400 --> 01:38:13,599
Speaker 1: it is that was your positive intention, continue to move

1645
01:38:13,640 --> 01:38:21,280
Speaker 1: forward with that positive intention, right, Okay, continue to sure

1646
01:38:21,400 --> 01:38:24,040
Speaker 1: sure again. You know I'm talking out of my ass

1647
01:38:24,040 --> 01:38:26,120
Speaker 1: a little bit here, but hit me.

1648
01:38:26,760 --> 01:38:29,120
Speaker 13: Oh no, I think you're fine. And it kind of

1649
01:38:29,120 --> 01:38:32,040
Speaker 13: brings me the question of how do we like We

1650
01:38:32,040 --> 01:38:36,400
Speaker 13: were talking about existental crisis issues, So how do we

1651
01:38:36,479 --> 01:38:38,880
Speaker 13: know who is the real Lyle? We know you as

1652
01:38:38,920 --> 01:38:41,360
Speaker 13: Gek and Lyle, but who is Lyle to Lyle?

1653
01:38:43,080 --> 01:38:48,120
Speaker 1: Who is Liele to Lyle? Oh jeez, I don't know.

1654
01:38:48,160 --> 01:38:50,320
Speaker 1: I'm a bunch of different things. Well, this is this

1655
01:38:50,400 --> 01:38:53,000
Speaker 1: is what I was talking about last stream. It's like,

1656
01:38:53,040 --> 01:38:56,320
Speaker 1: I don't know if there is a real me. I mean,

1657
01:38:56,360 --> 01:39:00,679
Speaker 1: this is whatever you see on this Twitch stream obviously

1658
01:39:00,840 --> 01:39:02,639
Speaker 1: is not what I act like or who I am

1659
01:39:02,720 --> 01:39:06,240
Speaker 1: one hundred percent of the time. But it's no more

1660
01:39:06,800 --> 01:39:11,599
Speaker 1: real or fake than how I act when I'm alone,

1661
01:39:11,880 --> 01:39:13,519
Speaker 1: And how I act when I'm alone is no more

1662
01:39:13,520 --> 01:39:17,200
Speaker 1: real or fake than how I act when I'm meeting

1663
01:39:17,200 --> 01:39:19,240
Speaker 1: a new person for the first time and going hello,

1664
01:39:19,320 --> 01:39:21,920
Speaker 1: how are you up at the You know, they're all

1665
01:39:22,000 --> 01:39:27,240
Speaker 1: just versions of the self. Unranked complete end is my

1666
01:39:27,400 --> 01:39:28,320
Speaker 1: version of the self.

1667
01:39:29,120 --> 01:39:31,680
Speaker 13: Is my version of the self when I stip on

1668
01:39:31,720 --> 01:39:36,599
Speaker 13: that scale? Is that just in only my truth, because

1669
01:39:36,600 --> 01:39:38,040
Speaker 13: no one else knows that I did that.

1670
01:39:39,720 --> 01:39:42,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a version of who you are, the least

1671
01:39:42,240 --> 01:39:48,280
Speaker 1: at least according to you know, my haphazardly crafted philosophy

1672
01:39:48,360 --> 01:39:50,920
Speaker 1: of the real selves and whatever. Yeah, that's a version

1673
01:39:50,960 --> 01:39:53,719
Speaker 1: of who you are. Yeah, all the bad, the most

1674
01:39:53,840 --> 01:39:56,360
Speaker 1: terrible shit you've not that that you know, Not that

1675
01:39:56,360 --> 01:39:58,479
Speaker 1: I'm judging that as terrible. I'm just saying this separately.

1676
01:39:58,520 --> 01:40:02,479
Speaker 1: But all the most terrible shit you've ever done, it's

1677
01:40:02,520 --> 01:40:05,400
Speaker 1: probably you. But also all the greatest stuff you've ever done,

1678
01:40:05,479 --> 01:40:09,920
Speaker 1: that's you. Two they coexist in a weird, smelly bubble

1679
01:40:11,040 --> 01:40:14,920
Speaker 1: of uh, you know, blood and farts. That is a

1680
01:40:15,120 --> 01:40:16,360
Speaker 1: human body and brain.

1681
01:40:18,960 --> 01:40:22,280
Speaker 13: So how do I go about going forward and making

1682
01:40:22,280 --> 01:40:24,799
Speaker 13: sure that I don't do something like this again? Because

1683
01:40:25,439 --> 01:40:28,519
Speaker 13: maybe not in this situation of wait, what if I

1684
01:40:28,560 --> 01:40:31,479
Speaker 13: see someone that is maybe you know, not paying attention

1685
01:40:31,520 --> 01:40:34,120
Speaker 13: to the details or for example, on their phone, on

1686
01:40:34,200 --> 01:40:38,560
Speaker 13: their flying and then you know, I kind of circumvene

1687
01:40:38,760 --> 01:40:42,439
Speaker 13: in another way that is maybe in the shadows like

1688
01:40:42,479 --> 01:40:45,559
Speaker 13: how I did before. Am I right to do that?

1689
01:40:45,960 --> 01:40:48,960
Speaker 13: Or am I not so moral authority to say?

1690
01:40:49,040 --> 01:40:49,120
Speaker 7: What?

1691
01:40:49,200 --> 01:40:49,599
Speaker 13: It's good?

1692
01:40:50,360 --> 01:40:52,160
Speaker 1: Here's the last thing. Here's The last thing I'll say

1693
01:40:52,160 --> 01:40:56,519
Speaker 1: about this is in those situations that you just mentioned, Look,

1694
01:40:56,840 --> 01:40:59,719
Speaker 1: your job. I don't know if you've told this explicitly

1695
01:40:59,720 --> 01:41:01,360
Speaker 1: the way you job is, but you work in flying.

1696
01:41:01,840 --> 01:41:06,400
Speaker 1: You are in your classroom or whatever you call it

1697
01:41:06,680 --> 01:41:10,960
Speaker 1: with the flying guys people. You are the safety authority.

1698
01:41:11,080 --> 01:41:15,439
Speaker 1: That's your job is to keep people safe. Right, So, like,

1699
01:41:15,479 --> 01:41:20,320
Speaker 1: that's your job in that whole sphere is to keep

1700
01:41:20,320 --> 01:41:22,120
Speaker 1: people safe. So you don't have to do that shit

1701
01:41:22,160 --> 01:41:24,720
Speaker 1: in the shadows. Right If someone's on their phone while

1702
01:41:24,720 --> 01:41:27,320
Speaker 1: they should be paying attention to some flight shit, you

1703
01:41:27,320 --> 01:41:29,519
Speaker 1: can call them out on it. You can do whatever

1704
01:41:29,800 --> 01:41:32,280
Speaker 1: whatever you were gonna do in the shadows, just do

1705
01:41:32,400 --> 01:41:35,560
Speaker 1: it in the light. That's your job. You know. I

1706
01:41:35,560 --> 01:41:38,960
Speaker 1: wouldn't feel bad about that, all.

1707
01:41:38,920 --> 01:41:41,640
Speaker 13: Right, So I guess another version of myself is just

1708
01:41:41,680 --> 01:41:44,320
Speaker 13: a safety element, and don't be in the shadows about

1709
01:41:44,320 --> 01:41:46,400
Speaker 13: it and just say, hey, he's too fat.

1710
01:41:48,439 --> 01:41:51,000
Speaker 1: Look if you know, if he's too fat for him

1711
01:41:51,040 --> 01:41:53,600
Speaker 1: to fly safely, then fuck you got you gotta speak up.

1712
01:41:53,600 --> 01:41:55,400
Speaker 1: You gotta be like, hey, he's too fat to fly safely.

1713
01:41:55,479 --> 01:41:57,200
Speaker 1: Don't you know you're not being an asshole. You just

1714
01:41:58,320 --> 01:42:00,639
Speaker 1: trying to protect him from crashing the plan of dying.

1715
01:42:03,880 --> 01:42:06,040
Speaker 13: Thank you so much, Keg. I mean, I'm gonna I

1716
01:42:06,040 --> 01:42:07,519
Speaker 13: feel better now actually talking.

1717
01:42:07,360 --> 01:42:12,439
Speaker 1: About Are you still here, Kyle cut out.

1718
01:42:13,200 --> 01:42:15,519
Speaker 13: Yeah, I'm always here. I mean, the one thing that

1719
01:42:15,920 --> 01:42:18,479
Speaker 13: I love the most about it is is like you said,

1720
01:42:18,520 --> 01:42:21,560
Speaker 13: you take the authority, but be proud in the authority.

1721
01:42:21,760 --> 01:42:24,120
Speaker 13: But know what you're doing is just. And I think

1722
01:42:24,160 --> 01:42:26,439
Speaker 13: I've always just had conflicting feelings about what is just

1723
01:42:26,520 --> 01:42:29,439
Speaker 13: because others might not see my reasoning for what is just?

1724
01:42:30,600 --> 01:42:34,720
Speaker 4: Mm hm hm, Well do you see it though?

1725
01:42:34,760 --> 01:42:36,800
Speaker 1: And you've give I mean, you've given me much to

1726
01:42:36,920 --> 01:42:39,640
Speaker 1: You've given me much to think about. Alex, No, I

1727
01:42:39,640 --> 01:42:42,360
Speaker 1: don't know I called you. I'm terrible with names. Step

1728
01:42:42,680 --> 01:42:44,519
Speaker 1: I called another guy Alex today and that was in

1729
01:42:44,640 --> 01:42:47,719
Speaker 1: his name. You've given me much to think about, Kyle.

1730
01:42:48,240 --> 01:42:52,240
Speaker 1: You've given me much to think about. But I I gotta,

1731
01:42:52,479 --> 01:42:54,360
Speaker 1: I gotta get out of here before this gets too

1732
01:42:54,400 --> 01:42:58,080
Speaker 1: deep and before my head starts uh sort of uh

1733
01:42:58,160 --> 01:43:02,320
Speaker 1: convulsing into some kind of black hole that cannot be reversed.

1734
01:43:02,400 --> 01:43:05,880
Speaker 1: But you know, thank you for bringing this to light

1735
01:43:05,920 --> 01:43:07,400
Speaker 1: with us. And I hope you have a good rest

1736
01:43:07,400 --> 01:43:07,640
Speaker 1: of the night.

1737
01:43:07,720 --> 01:43:12,799
Speaker 13: Kyle, Thank you, le thank you for always being you beautiful.

1738
01:43:12,840 --> 01:43:17,519
Speaker 1: Thank you man. Hello, Hey, this is Jack.

1739
01:43:18,160 --> 01:43:19,160
Speaker 7: Yes, this is Jack.

1740
01:43:20,439 --> 01:43:24,559
Speaker 1: Jacket says here that you exclusively sit down when you

1741
01:43:24,600 --> 01:43:29,800
Speaker 1: pee and that you have Yes, I do you would

1742
01:43:29,840 --> 01:43:30,360
Speaker 1: like to share with you?

1743
01:43:30,520 --> 01:43:34,360
Speaker 7: Yes, I would like to share this with you. I

1744
01:43:34,479 --> 01:43:38,000
Speaker 7: was not expecting that. I'm thrilled right now that I'm

1745
01:43:38,040 --> 01:43:39,720
Speaker 7: on call, so I just want you to know that.

1746
01:43:41,840 --> 01:43:44,479
Speaker 7: But yeah, I have a story behind that. I have

1747
01:43:44,520 --> 01:43:46,360
Speaker 7: a story behind that, and it is a It is

1748
01:43:46,400 --> 01:43:50,599
Speaker 7: a traumatic one from when I was very young, because

1749
01:43:50,600 --> 01:43:52,680
Speaker 7: whenever I tell people I sit down to pee, they're like,

1750
01:43:52,720 --> 01:43:55,200
Speaker 7: why don't Why don't you stand up? You're a guy,

1751
01:43:55,320 --> 01:43:59,519
Speaker 7: you know. But so when I was around the age

1752
01:43:59,560 --> 01:44:04,200
Speaker 7: of three or five, it was like five, four or five,

1753
01:44:04,320 --> 01:44:07,320
Speaker 7: that age range. Okay, you know how, you're pretty short

1754
01:44:07,360 --> 01:44:08,160
Speaker 7: at that time, you know.

1755
01:44:10,439 --> 01:44:12,040
Speaker 1: Oh, when you're five years old.

1756
01:44:12,040 --> 01:44:15,880
Speaker 7: Child's pretty sure. Yeah, child is pretty short at like five.

1757
01:44:15,960 --> 01:44:18,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, children traditionally are very small.

1758
01:44:18,640 --> 01:44:26,479
Speaker 7: Yes, yes, so well, I uh, I have this vivid

1759
01:44:26,520 --> 01:44:31,120
Speaker 7: memory of the toilet falling down, like the seat falling

1760
01:44:31,160 --> 01:44:36,879
Speaker 7: down on me, and there was blood. It was painful,

1761
01:44:37,920 --> 01:44:44,080
Speaker 7: and I my penis was injured. To say the least

1762
01:44:44,320 --> 01:44:48,719
Speaker 7: that day. And uh, that is that is the reason

1763
01:44:48,760 --> 01:44:51,320
Speaker 7: for why I sit down to pee most of the time.

1764
01:44:51,960 --> 01:44:53,000
Speaker 7: The toilet pretty.

1765
01:44:52,800 --> 01:44:57,280
Speaker 1: Much exclusively fell. The toylet seat fell onto your penis.

1766
01:44:58,720 --> 01:45:00,760
Speaker 7: Yes, when I was like three or five, Yes, like

1767
01:45:01,040 --> 01:45:01,599
Speaker 7: four or five.

1768
01:45:01,720 --> 01:45:09,160
Speaker 1: I mean, but we've got we've got little jack and

1769
01:45:09,560 --> 01:45:16,080
Speaker 1: you have the the toilet seat up. Yeah, you're a

1770
01:45:16,200 --> 01:45:20,960
Speaker 1: small guy, so like the so so you're standing up.

1771
01:45:21,400 --> 01:45:24,599
Speaker 7: And the realm I'm standing up I was very young.

1772
01:45:24,560 --> 01:45:25,840
Speaker 1: Is like, so the rim of the.

1773
01:45:26,080 --> 01:45:28,840
Speaker 7: Something I don't remember, I'm sorry for.

1774
01:45:29,920 --> 01:45:40,360
Speaker 1: Yes, the toilet seats is at exact pianist level. And

1775
01:45:40,360 --> 01:45:42,360
Speaker 1: and stop me, stop me if i'm if I if

1776
01:45:42,360 --> 01:45:43,560
Speaker 1: I have the incorrect.

1777
01:45:43,160 --> 01:45:45,599
Speaker 7: But the rim of the You're pretty correct so far.

1778
01:45:46,360 --> 01:45:54,839
Speaker 1: The your little penis is resting upon the rim of

1779
01:45:55,120 --> 01:46:02,080
Speaker 1: the toilet seat, and then the top two parts of

1780
01:46:02,120 --> 01:46:04,840
Speaker 1: the toilet, the bowl that you sit on, and then

1781
01:46:04,920 --> 01:46:10,000
Speaker 1: the sort of the lid come crashing down and crush

1782
01:46:10,320 --> 01:46:11,240
Speaker 1: your little penis.

1783
01:46:13,360 --> 01:46:17,599
Speaker 7: Yes, it was. It was bloody. It was. This blood

1784
01:46:17,640 --> 01:46:21,920
Speaker 7: was not red. This blood was it was I remember

1785
01:46:22,120 --> 01:46:24,720
Speaker 7: vividly remember the being. It wasn't like terrible, but there

1786
01:46:24,800 --> 01:46:26,400
Speaker 7: was there was quite a bit of blood. And it

1787
01:46:26,439 --> 01:46:29,120
Speaker 7: was not red. If I remember correct, I do not

1788
01:46:29,160 --> 01:46:31,519
Speaker 7: remember this blood being read, or maybe my memory is

1789
01:46:31,640 --> 01:46:34,800
Speaker 7: completely wrong. But that was the weirdest thing. I'm like,

1790
01:46:34,960 --> 01:46:38,760
Speaker 7: was that blood was that Maybe I'm confused to this

1791
01:46:38,880 --> 01:46:41,840
Speaker 7: day what I saw if I'm being completely honest, or

1792
01:46:41,880 --> 01:46:44,800
Speaker 7: if I if this is a child memory being incorrect,

1793
01:46:44,800 --> 01:46:48,160
Speaker 7: you know, because that it's possible. But I know for

1794
01:46:48,200 --> 01:46:49,519
Speaker 7: a fact this did happen.

1795
01:46:50,520 --> 01:46:55,160
Speaker 1: Okay, and so so is and so how old are

1796
01:46:55,160 --> 01:47:00,640
Speaker 1: you now? I'm eighteen, You're eighteen? And how old are

1797
01:47:00,680 --> 01:47:01,360
Speaker 1: you when this happens?

1798
01:47:01,640 --> 01:47:05,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, like I said, I was about like four or

1799
01:47:05,120 --> 01:47:07,400
Speaker 7: five years old. I was very young, four.

1800
01:47:07,240 --> 01:47:09,439
Speaker 1: Fairst Okay, so this is thirteen years in the making.

1801
01:47:09,600 --> 01:47:12,280
Speaker 1: So for the for the for the following thirteen years,

1802
01:47:12,320 --> 01:47:13,879
Speaker 1: you only sat down when your peede.

1803
01:47:15,160 --> 01:47:16,760
Speaker 7: I've had a few times where I stand up, but

1804
01:47:16,800 --> 01:47:19,000
Speaker 7: it's just I'm so used to sitting down at this point.

1805
01:47:19,040 --> 01:47:21,200
Speaker 7: I don't see the point too. I mean, obviously, I'll

1806
01:47:21,240 --> 01:47:23,479
Speaker 7: use a journal if I'm at like a you know

1807
01:47:23,520 --> 01:47:25,519
Speaker 7: what I mean, Okay, like a yournal is different. But

1808
01:47:25,520 --> 01:47:28,559
Speaker 7: if i'm at if I'm specifically at a toilet, though,

1809
01:47:28,600 --> 01:47:29,360
Speaker 7: I will sit down.

1810
01:47:30,040 --> 01:47:33,000
Speaker 1: So this was my expecific question. So, so this is

1811
01:47:33,040 --> 01:47:35,320
Speaker 1: not some form of medical issue.

1812
01:47:37,040 --> 01:47:40,040
Speaker 7: No, this is not a medical This is not pee.

1813
01:47:40,120 --> 01:47:44,439
Speaker 1: This is a a fear stemming from a traumatic event.

1814
01:47:46,240 --> 01:47:48,360
Speaker 7: I mean, I'm not so much in fear anymore. I'm

1815
01:47:48,400 --> 01:47:52,120
Speaker 7: just lazy. I don't feel like aving. But for a

1816
01:47:52,160 --> 01:47:55,440
Speaker 7: long time this was a fear stemming from a traumatic experience.

1817
01:47:56,360 --> 01:47:59,880
Speaker 1: I sit down when I pee all the time because

1818
01:47:59,920 --> 01:48:03,880
Speaker 1: I also am lazy. And if you're telling me, I

1819
01:48:03,880 --> 01:48:07,520
Speaker 1: get to sit for like two minutes instead.

1820
01:48:07,280 --> 01:48:08,120
Speaker 13: Of stinking, yeah, I don't.

1821
01:48:08,280 --> 01:48:11,639
Speaker 7: I don't get why there's there's so much It seems

1822
01:48:11,720 --> 01:48:15,520
Speaker 7: like it seems like there is so much like stigma

1823
01:48:15,600 --> 01:48:18,320
Speaker 7: against the men sitting down to pee, and I think

1824
01:48:18,360 --> 01:48:21,200
Speaker 7: we need to get rid of that. Would you agree

1825
01:48:21,240 --> 01:48:21,400
Speaker 7: with me?

1826
01:48:21,400 --> 01:48:23,680
Speaker 1: While fully agree with you, I think sitting down and

1827
01:48:23,720 --> 01:48:26,519
Speaker 1: peeing is the optimal strategy. You get to sit down,

1828
01:48:27,479 --> 01:48:30,559
Speaker 1: which is great, uh, and you get to go on

1829
01:48:30,600 --> 01:48:37,439
Speaker 1: your phone. And also almost every time I pee, well,

1830
01:48:37,479 --> 01:48:39,639
Speaker 1: if I ever have a boner, I'll I'll always sit

1831
01:48:39,680 --> 01:48:42,320
Speaker 1: down when I pee because you know, if you yeah,

1832
01:48:44,880 --> 01:48:46,880
Speaker 1: you know, splash. But even when I don't have a boner,

1833
01:48:46,880 --> 01:48:51,000
Speaker 1: I find myself getting splash and everywhere and I always

1834
01:48:51,000 --> 01:48:53,479
Speaker 1: almost every time I stand up and when I pee,

1835
01:48:53,479 --> 01:48:55,200
Speaker 1: I I'll pee a little bit on the on the

1836
01:48:55,320 --> 01:48:56,840
Speaker 1: rim and then I'll have to go get a little

1837
01:48:56,840 --> 01:48:58,719
Speaker 1: piece of toilet paper and then clean.

1838
01:48:58,840 --> 01:49:00,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, this is another reason.

1839
01:49:02,160 --> 01:49:03,920
Speaker 1: Time is not like, hey, how come this guy peete

1840
01:49:03,920 --> 01:49:06,719
Speaker 1: all over the toilet seat? So I could skip that step,

1841
01:49:06,760 --> 01:49:09,120
Speaker 1: I would just sit down. Yeah, I like a man.

1842
01:49:09,800 --> 01:49:11,720
Speaker 7: I hate it when I'm at work because you'll see

1843
01:49:11,800 --> 01:49:13,760
Speaker 7: because whenever I work, I also see pee on the

1844
01:49:13,760 --> 01:49:15,920
Speaker 7: toilet sometimes and it really like, man, I just want

1845
01:49:15,920 --> 01:49:18,599
Speaker 7: to sit down. You know, got to grab the toilet paper,

1846
01:49:18,600 --> 01:49:20,439
Speaker 7: grab the little like seat cover, because I want to

1847
01:49:20,479 --> 01:49:23,360
Speaker 7: sit in someone's piss. And especially for me, I work.

1848
01:49:23,439 --> 01:49:25,240
Speaker 7: I work a twelve hour shift, and you think I

1849
01:49:25,280 --> 01:49:27,479
Speaker 7: want to stand up for that whenever I pee. No,

1850
01:49:27,560 --> 01:49:28,720
Speaker 7: I want to get a chance to.

1851
01:49:28,800 --> 01:49:33,519
Speaker 1: Rest exactly, take your breaks when you can get your breaks.

1852
01:49:33,600 --> 01:49:35,519
Speaker 1: And then another thing with the workplace, yeah that is

1853
01:49:35,560 --> 01:49:39,880
Speaker 1: that is that if you're in a small office and

1854
01:49:39,960 --> 01:49:42,120
Speaker 1: you leave a little bit of pee on the toilet seat,

1855
01:49:44,720 --> 01:49:47,800
Speaker 1: someone might know that that's you, and then you're the

1856
01:49:47,800 --> 01:49:49,960
Speaker 1: guys on the toilet seat.

1857
01:49:50,479 --> 01:49:52,160
Speaker 7: Good thing, I don't work at all off.

1858
01:49:53,760 --> 01:49:54,519
Speaker 1: By just sitting down.

1859
01:49:55,680 --> 01:50:00,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I mean I think, yeah, that was. I

1860
01:50:00,360 --> 01:50:02,880
Speaker 7: also have another funny story of when I was younger.

1861
01:50:02,880 --> 01:50:04,760
Speaker 7: It's very short. I just crashed a golf cart when

1862
01:50:04,800 --> 01:50:05,400
Speaker 7: I was really young.

1863
01:50:06,040 --> 01:50:06,840
Speaker 1: I sure, can you tell?

1864
01:50:09,840 --> 01:50:12,080
Speaker 7: Oh, yes, very quickly. I just like hopped in a

1865
01:50:12,120 --> 01:50:14,839
Speaker 7: golf cart crashed it into a tree while my parents

1866
01:50:14,840 --> 01:50:16,680
Speaker 7: and stuff were fishing. I threw the keys in the

1867
01:50:16,720 --> 01:50:18,400
Speaker 7: water because to hide the evidence.

1868
01:50:19,760 --> 01:50:21,280
Speaker 1: That was six seconds. That was pretty good.

1869
01:50:23,280 --> 01:50:26,639
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, I appreciate talking a while. It's been, it's

1870
01:50:26,680 --> 01:50:30,280
Speaker 7: been in I hope you enjoyed my traumatic story. Oh

1871
01:50:30,320 --> 01:50:31,920
Speaker 7: were you were you gonna cut me off? Or no?

1872
01:50:32,040 --> 01:50:35,280
Speaker 1: I don't know, Oh no, Jack, this was this was Jack.

1873
01:50:35,360 --> 01:50:37,560
Speaker 1: I get the sense that you're like wondering whether or

1874
01:50:37,600 --> 01:50:40,519
Speaker 1: not you're like doing an okay job at being on

1875
01:50:40,520 --> 01:50:42,000
Speaker 1: the phone right now, And I just want you to

1876
01:50:42,040 --> 01:50:44,599
Speaker 1: let you know that it's perfectly fine.

1877
01:50:46,920 --> 01:50:49,960
Speaker 7: Well, I appreciate that. I actually don't. I mean, I'm

1878
01:50:49,960 --> 01:50:51,760
Speaker 7: not that stressed out right now, believe it or not.

1879
01:50:51,800 --> 01:50:54,240
Speaker 7: I because I'm kind of like you when I don't

1880
01:50:54,400 --> 01:50:56,120
Speaker 7: like if I don't have like that view because I

1881
01:50:56,160 --> 01:50:57,919
Speaker 7: know you talk it because I've listened to your podcast

1882
01:50:57,920 --> 01:51:00,960
Speaker 7: a lot. Recently. That was why I called. I mean,

1883
01:51:01,000 --> 01:51:04,040
Speaker 7: I've known about you for like a few months now,

1884
01:51:04,080 --> 01:51:06,599
Speaker 7: but i've I've just more recently beginning into your work,

1885
01:51:06,600 --> 01:51:07,720
Speaker 7: and that's why i wanted to call in.

1886
01:51:09,240 --> 01:51:15,200
Speaker 1: God damn, thank you, Jack. I'm glad that you've I

1887
01:51:15,240 --> 01:51:18,160
Speaker 1: appreciate all the kind words, and thank you for sharing

1888
01:51:18,160 --> 01:51:20,920
Speaker 1: your traumas with us, so that you know, all of

1889
01:51:20,960 --> 01:51:23,480
Speaker 1: the six year olds that are listening to this podcast

1890
01:51:23,680 --> 01:51:28,280
Speaker 1: can be forewarned of the dangers of peeing while standing up.

1891
01:51:29,920 --> 01:51:33,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a. It's a it's scary when you're young,

1892
01:51:33,760 --> 01:51:34,360
Speaker 7: it's scary.

1893
01:51:35,640 --> 01:51:43,000
Speaker 1: Talk to you soon, Jack. Oh hie, I'm getting kind

1894
01:51:43,000 --> 01:51:43,519
Speaker 1: of hungry.

1895
01:51:46,160 --> 01:51:49,720
Speaker 15: What are you crazy.

1896
01:51:50,840 --> 01:51:53,680
Speaker 1: I don't know. I've been eating a lot of been

1897
01:51:53,720 --> 01:51:56,200
Speaker 1: eating a lot of Asian food lately. Like I had

1898
01:51:56,200 --> 01:52:01,000
Speaker 1: sushi for the first time, like two weeks ago, Like no, yeah,

1899
01:52:01,000 --> 01:52:03,840
Speaker 1: like probably two weeks ago. So I've been eating a

1900
01:52:03,880 --> 01:52:10,680
Speaker 1: lot of sushi, ramen, Korean barbecue, Chinese food. I had

1901
01:52:10,760 --> 01:52:14,120
Speaker 1: oudan for the first time. I don't know if it's

1902
01:52:14,160 --> 01:52:17,240
Speaker 1: the first time, but I haddon that was pretty good.

1903
01:52:18,000 --> 01:52:20,920
Speaker 1: I could eat pizza. There's so many different kinds of food.

1904
01:52:21,280 --> 01:52:23,040
Speaker 15: I think you should door dash yourself something.

1905
01:52:24,320 --> 01:52:26,040
Speaker 1: Really, what should I DoorDash myself?

1906
01:52:27,920 --> 01:52:30,240
Speaker 15: The first thing you thought of, said Asian food.

1907
01:52:31,320 --> 01:52:39,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's enough about me, Diamond Tina. It

1908
01:52:39,560 --> 01:52:42,040
Speaker 1: says here, you've been in a bunch of car accidents.

1909
01:52:42,320 --> 01:52:45,599
Speaker 1: One time, even you crashed into your sister on purpose.

1910
01:52:46,400 --> 01:52:49,839
Speaker 1: Tell me about that, Okay.

1911
01:52:49,960 --> 01:52:54,120
Speaker 15: So I was on like a probation with like the

1912
01:52:55,120 --> 01:52:59,800
Speaker 15: like drivers Bicing like department, like because when you get

1913
01:52:59,840 --> 01:53:02,439
Speaker 15: in to like car accidents, or you get speeding tickets

1914
01:53:02,479 --> 01:53:05,200
Speaker 15: and stuff like that, and Utah, you get points and

1915
01:53:05,240 --> 01:53:06,920
Speaker 15: if you get too many points, you can get your

1916
01:53:06,920 --> 01:53:13,040
Speaker 15: license taken away. And so I had gotten oh I wish,

1917
01:53:13,520 --> 01:53:16,200
Speaker 15: but I had gotten into a car accident. I had

1918
01:53:16,280 --> 01:53:19,200
Speaker 15: hit the back of someone's car, and I got I

1919
01:53:19,200 --> 01:53:21,040
Speaker 15: don't remember how many points you get till you get

1920
01:53:21,040 --> 01:53:24,280
Speaker 15: your license taken away, but I was like one point away.

1921
01:53:25,000 --> 01:53:28,760
Speaker 15: And then I had got a speeding ticket, and so

1922
01:53:29,520 --> 01:53:32,320
Speaker 15: I had went way over the points, and I was

1923
01:53:32,360 --> 01:53:35,080
Speaker 15: put on probation instead of getting my license taken away,

1924
01:53:35,720 --> 01:53:38,120
Speaker 15: and with that, I had to like not get any

1925
01:53:38,120 --> 01:53:39,320
Speaker 15: tickets for the whole year.

1926
01:53:40,040 --> 01:53:43,080
Speaker 2: And I was like three or four days.

1927
01:53:42,880 --> 01:53:46,920
Speaker 15: Away from getting off probation, and my sister had got

1928
01:53:46,960 --> 01:53:49,760
Speaker 15: pulled over and she was on the run, so she

1929
01:53:49,960 --> 01:53:54,639
Speaker 15: used my name and got a speeding ticket on my name.

1930
01:53:55,760 --> 01:53:59,479
Speaker 15: And my mom called me and she's like, hey, Matty,

1931
01:53:59,640 --> 01:54:03,559
Speaker 15: just us your name and you got a ticket and

1932
01:54:03,600 --> 01:54:06,280
Speaker 15: everything like that. And I was really angry. So I

1933
01:54:06,320 --> 01:54:09,519
Speaker 15: went to my mom's house because that's where my sister lived,

1934
01:54:09,560 --> 01:54:11,439
Speaker 15: and she wasn't there because my mom told her I

1935
01:54:11,479 --> 01:54:14,479
Speaker 15: was all my way, So I just went and trash

1936
01:54:14,479 --> 01:54:16,559
Speaker 15: her room because I was mad. And I was leaving

1937
01:54:16,680 --> 01:54:18,759
Speaker 15: and I saw she was like hiding on the corner,

1938
01:54:19,520 --> 01:54:22,960
Speaker 15: and so I pulled up to her car and I said, hey, bitch,

1939
01:54:23,439 --> 01:54:25,519
Speaker 15: and then she ended up driving off, so I was

1940
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Speaker 15: just chasing her around, and she ended up driving back

1941
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Speaker 15: to my mom's house, and at that point, I felt

1942
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Speaker 15: like the only way to kind of get back at

1943
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Speaker 15: her was to hit her car, So she stopped in

1944
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Speaker 15: front of my mom's house and I ended up just

1945
01:54:39,240 --> 01:54:42,840
Speaker 15: hitting the back of her car, and I just remember

1946
01:54:42,880 --> 01:54:45,880
Speaker 15: hearing my mom's screams, what are you doing and freaking

1947
01:54:45,880 --> 01:54:48,000
Speaker 15: out and everything like that, and I just felt so

1948
01:54:48,240 --> 01:54:49,600
Speaker 15: validated in that moment.

1949
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Speaker 1: So the revenge served its purpose in making you feel yeah,

1950
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Speaker 1: at yourself.

1951
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Speaker 15: Kind of just I feel like maybe about the situation

1952
01:55:05,120 --> 01:55:08,920
Speaker 15: because I feel like my sister would always get into trouble,

1953
01:55:08,920 --> 01:55:12,240
Speaker 15: but like it's crazy things, but always getting away with it.

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Speaker 12: Yeah.

1955
01:55:13,200 --> 01:55:19,440
Speaker 15: And and she portrayed your name, which then got you

1956
01:55:19,480 --> 01:55:19,920
Speaker 15: in trouble.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 15: And when I went to the police station to tell

1959
01:55:24,800 --> 01:55:28,200
Speaker 15: them like this was the wrong person, they were like, well,

1960
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Speaker 15: you need to bring her in so that we can

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Speaker 15: make a report and everything like that. And so.

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Speaker 1: How long ago is this?

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Speaker 15: Oh, it was like last year.

1964
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Speaker 1: Okay, And what is your relationship like with your sister? Now?

1965
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Speaker 15: It's better, She's not like doing crazy hooligan stuff anymore.

1966
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Speaker 1: M I'm glad to hear that it's better. And you

1967
01:55:54,880 --> 01:55:57,400
Speaker 1: had gotten a lot of points on your license. You

1968
01:55:57,440 --> 01:56:00,240
Speaker 1: were telling me what what was it again that you

1969
01:56:00,240 --> 01:56:03,440
Speaker 1: said these points were from?

1970
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Speaker 15: So like, if you my first points I got was

1971
01:56:06,760 --> 01:56:10,680
Speaker 15: I accidentally crashed into the back of someone's car, and

1972
01:56:10,720 --> 01:56:12,520
Speaker 15: I think I got like forty nine points for that,

1973
01:56:12,640 --> 01:56:15,280
Speaker 15: and I think you at fifty you'll get your license

1974
01:56:15,320 --> 01:56:18,480
Speaker 15: taken away. So when I got my speeding ticket a

1975
01:56:18,520 --> 01:56:21,760
Speaker 15: little like a few months later or like five months later,

1976
01:56:23,000 --> 01:56:24,240
Speaker 15: that's when I was putting on probation.

1977
01:56:25,400 --> 01:56:27,280
Speaker 1: What do you think it is that compels you to

1978
01:56:28,240 --> 01:56:29,440
Speaker 1: drive so recklessly?

1979
01:56:33,240 --> 01:56:36,560
Speaker 15: I don't know. I even one time was driving home

1980
01:56:36,560 --> 01:56:40,320
Speaker 15: from work and I was driving really fast and like

1981
01:56:40,560 --> 01:56:42,440
Speaker 15: on these roads it was kind of like farm land,

1982
01:56:42,520 --> 01:56:45,360
Speaker 15: so like the roads were like super lonely in there,

1983
01:56:45,440 --> 01:56:48,320
Speaker 15: dotted so you can pass people on them, and I

1984
01:56:48,440 --> 01:56:51,000
Speaker 15: was passing my coworker and ended up like flying off

1985
01:56:51,040 --> 01:56:56,480
Speaker 15: the side of the road and totaled my car.

1986
01:56:58,520 --> 01:57:02,880
Speaker 1: I it's kind of sounds like the points system is

1987
01:57:03,240 --> 01:57:04,600
Speaker 1: working as it is intended to.

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Speaker 15: Oh, definitely, but it's been a long time since I've

1989
01:57:09,960 --> 01:57:11,240
Speaker 15: crashed a car.

1990
01:57:12,280 --> 01:57:15,160
Speaker 1: Okay, so the points? Is there way to get points

1991
01:57:16,040 --> 01:57:18,120
Speaker 1: removed or are points permanent?

1992
01:57:19,880 --> 01:57:22,240
Speaker 15: No, you can get them removed, so like after a year,

1993
01:57:22,600 --> 01:57:25,920
Speaker 15: I think like half of them come off and then

1994
01:57:25,960 --> 01:57:29,520
Speaker 15: you can take like like a safety class kind of

1995
01:57:29,760 --> 01:57:31,040
Speaker 15: and then get the rest taken off.

1996
01:57:31,920 --> 01:57:34,320
Speaker 1: Okay, and are you working towards getting the rest of

1997
01:57:34,360 --> 01:57:35,560
Speaker 1: your points removed?

1998
01:57:37,400 --> 01:57:40,000
Speaker 15: I think I have already all came off, because that

1999
01:57:40,160 --> 01:57:42,520
Speaker 15: was like over two years ago and I haven't done

2000
01:57:42,520 --> 01:57:44,720
Speaker 15: any I'm not pulled over anything since then.

2001
01:57:47,120 --> 01:57:49,480
Speaker 1: It says that you're only twenty one years old.

2002
01:57:51,240 --> 01:57:55,000
Speaker 15: I'm twenty two. My birthday live on the seventeenth.

2003
01:57:55,920 --> 01:58:01,440
Speaker 1: So how long have you been driving for? Since you

2004
01:58:01,440 --> 01:58:03,640
Speaker 1: were sixteen? Okay, so you've had a solid five years

2005
01:58:03,680 --> 01:58:10,520
Speaker 1: to rack up a cute amount of points. Yeah, and okay,

2006
01:58:10,560 --> 01:58:12,760
Speaker 1: moving forward. So all right, there's a lot of elements

2007
01:58:12,800 --> 01:58:21,280
Speaker 1: here that that I'm kind of interested in hearing about.

2008
01:58:21,360 --> 01:58:23,960
Speaker 1: There's the relationship with your sister, which you are telling

2009
01:58:24,000 --> 01:58:29,360
Speaker 1: me has been mended. There's your reckless driving habits. Have

2010
01:58:29,480 --> 01:58:37,000
Speaker 1: you made active effort to start driving less recklessly after

2011
01:58:37,120 --> 01:58:38,360
Speaker 1: all these I feel like.

2012
01:58:40,200 --> 01:58:44,040
Speaker 15: I feel like I wasn't intentionally trying to drive recklessly,

2013
01:58:45,920 --> 01:58:50,320
Speaker 15: but I feel like I don't steeve as much anymore.

2014
01:58:50,920 --> 01:58:53,040
Speaker 15: I still do, just not excessively.

2015
01:58:54,000 --> 01:59:04,560
Speaker 1: Okay, that's good. It's good. And your viewpoint on revenge,

2016
01:59:06,960 --> 01:59:10,440
Speaker 1: the fact that the revenge that you tell of in

2017
01:59:10,480 --> 01:59:15,200
Speaker 1: the story made you feel good, do you think that

2018
01:59:15,240 --> 01:59:18,240
Speaker 1: in the future you will continue to seek vengeance as

2019
01:59:18,240 --> 01:59:21,520
Speaker 1: heavily as you did in that one instance.

2020
01:59:25,000 --> 01:59:28,640
Speaker 15: Definitely, not, just because there was just a lot more

2021
01:59:29,000 --> 01:59:31,360
Speaker 15: to that, Like a lot of more things that happened

2022
01:59:31,400 --> 01:59:34,880
Speaker 15: that cause that revenge, Like my sister has even like

2023
01:59:35,160 --> 01:59:38,040
Speaker 15: burned caught, like the middle school we went to she

2024
01:59:38,160 --> 01:59:42,120
Speaker 15: caught it on fire. She's were on high speed chases,

2025
01:59:42,520 --> 01:59:47,040
Speaker 15: She's been with like stolen cars, and she just always

2026
01:59:47,040 --> 01:59:49,040
Speaker 15: seems to get away with those things. And my mom

2027
01:59:49,080 --> 01:59:52,280
Speaker 15: would never punish her either, So I feel like in

2028
01:59:52,320 --> 01:59:54,560
Speaker 15: my way, that was kind of me punishing her.

2029
01:59:57,240 --> 02:00:03,800
Speaker 1: So it was a bit of vigilante Jessic, Yes, for everybody.

2030
02:00:04,600 --> 02:00:07,680
Speaker 1: And your sister, you say, burnt down a.

2031
02:00:07,680 --> 02:00:12,160
Speaker 15: Middle school, not like burnt it down, but there was

2032
02:00:12,160 --> 02:00:15,480
Speaker 15: like they called it, like the science hall, and she

2033
02:00:15,720 --> 02:00:19,360
Speaker 15: was like lighting the toilet paper on fire for some reason,

2034
02:00:19,400 --> 02:00:21,760
Speaker 15: and it just like caught the other role on fire,

2035
02:00:21,840 --> 02:00:24,640
Speaker 15: and then just the whole bathroom caught on fire.

2036
02:00:26,320 --> 02:00:31,760
Speaker 1: And what is it that is really, at the end

2037
02:00:31,800 --> 02:00:39,440
Speaker 1: of the day fueling your desire to enact this vigilante justice?

2038
02:00:41,360 --> 02:00:44,520
Speaker 1: Is it? And you say, you say it's for the

2039
02:00:44,560 --> 02:00:49,880
Speaker 1: good of everyone? So is this necessarily Does this have

2040
02:00:49,920 --> 02:00:53,480
Speaker 1: to do with some belief that you have in law

2041
02:00:53,520 --> 02:00:57,360
Speaker 1: and order? Does this have to do with, you know,

2042
02:00:57,840 --> 02:01:02,480
Speaker 1: I don't know, jealousy of your sister's ability to continually

2043
02:01:02,480 --> 02:01:05,839
Speaker 1: evade punishment. Does it have to do with a dislike

2044
02:01:05,920 --> 02:01:11,640
Speaker 1: of your sister? What is the driving force behind your

2045
02:01:11,680 --> 02:01:18,960
Speaker 1: desire to restore balance, as it seems you feel as

2046
02:01:18,960 --> 02:01:19,640
Speaker 1: though you were doing.

2047
02:01:22,640 --> 02:01:24,760
Speaker 15: I think I just wanted her to stop doing all

2048
02:01:24,800 --> 02:01:32,320
Speaker 15: that crazy stuff and just not like be a headache

2049
02:01:32,360 --> 02:01:36,680
Speaker 15: for everybody, because like at that part, my mom wasn't

2050
02:01:36,800 --> 02:01:39,560
Speaker 15: really involved in our lives too much, so like I

2051
02:01:39,560 --> 02:01:42,640
Speaker 15: would have to take her to core and take time

2052
02:01:43,160 --> 02:01:46,280
Speaker 15: to take her. I'll tell these programs she had to do,

2053
02:01:46,360 --> 02:01:48,520
Speaker 15: so it was just like a pain that I didn't

2054
02:01:48,560 --> 02:01:50,880
Speaker 15: feel like doing anymore. I just wanted her to pull

2055
02:01:50,880 --> 02:01:51,520
Speaker 15: her head out.

2056
02:01:51,360 --> 02:01:52,320
Speaker 2: Of her ass.

2057
02:01:54,520 --> 02:01:59,480
Speaker 1: Have you had an extended conversation with your sister aside

2058
02:01:59,520 --> 02:02:02,880
Speaker 1: from just hitting her car, about your desire for her

2059
02:02:03,000 --> 02:02:05,000
Speaker 1: to pull her head out of her ass.

2060
02:02:07,400 --> 02:02:10,080
Speaker 15: Yeah, And that's why I'm saying now like our relationships school,

2061
02:02:10,080 --> 02:02:13,160
Speaker 15: because she finally did that, she started going to school

2062
02:02:13,200 --> 02:02:18,400
Speaker 15: and everything. So, yeah, she finally pulled her head out

2063
02:02:18,440 --> 02:02:20,000
Speaker 15: of her ass. But I don't think it's anything I've

2064
02:02:20,000 --> 02:02:22,880
Speaker 15: said to her or even me crashing into her car.

2065
02:02:23,800 --> 02:02:25,840
Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad to hear that. Is there anything else

2066
02:02:25,840 --> 02:02:28,880
Speaker 1: that you want to say before we go with Tina?

2067
02:02:30,160 --> 02:02:32,040
Speaker 15: Well, I just want to say my own name is Dominique.

2068
02:02:32,080 --> 02:02:34,280
Speaker 15: I just said diamon Tina because the last time I

2069
02:02:34,280 --> 02:02:36,920
Speaker 15: got in as a screener, I didn't get through, so

2070
02:02:37,320 --> 02:02:42,040
Speaker 15: I just wanted to have a grabbing name. But I

2071
02:02:42,080 --> 02:02:44,960
Speaker 15: also just wanted to say that I love your stream.

2072
02:02:45,120 --> 02:02:49,440
Speaker 15: I've been listening since like November or something. I saw

2073
02:02:49,440 --> 02:02:52,600
Speaker 15: you on TikTok but and I figured that you would

2074
02:02:52,600 --> 02:02:56,040
Speaker 15: have a podcast on Spotify or something, so that work,

2075
02:02:56,080 --> 02:02:58,600
Speaker 15: and I checked you out and I've been listening since then.

2076
02:02:58,640 --> 02:03:01,360
Speaker 15: I'm almost all the way caught up. I've started with

2077
02:03:01,400 --> 02:03:04,360
Speaker 15: the old episodes and then worked my way up. But

2078
02:03:05,280 --> 02:03:07,720
Speaker 15: I love your stream. Me and my boyfriend watched all

2079
02:03:07,760 --> 02:03:09,840
Speaker 15: the time, and I just wanted to say thanks for

2080
02:03:10,120 --> 02:03:13,320
Speaker 15: taking up the phone and talking to me and for

2081
02:03:13,840 --> 02:03:14,560
Speaker 15: doing what you do.

2082
02:03:15,560 --> 02:03:18,880
Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Dominique. I do really appreciate that,

2083
02:03:19,040 --> 02:03:21,800
Speaker 1: and thank you for sharing your story with us.

2084
02:03:23,800 --> 02:03:26,000
Speaker 11: Have a good one, GEG you as well.

2085
02:03:27,680 --> 02:03:27,920
Speaker 12: Bye.

2086
02:03:30,440 --> 02:03:33,880
Speaker 1: Never weekend goes on the line taking your phone calls

2087
02:03:34,000 --> 02:03:34,560
Speaker 1: every night.

2088
02:03:34,960 --> 02:03:36,840
Speaker 7: Every week goes to unside.

2089
02:03:37,080 --> 02:03:39,080
Speaker 1: Was teaching you CUD in the middle of your life.

2090
02:03:39,440 --> 02:03:41,640
Speaker 7: Body's not really an expert.