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Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's see alive on a reaction Monday at

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Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns Daily. I am merely bow. The great z

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Speaker 2: is to my left, The Hofstra damis is to my right. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: maybe fresh off the boat from across the pond, HAF.

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Speaker 3: I gotta know how many do we have shirts in

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Speaker 3: this collection? Because now and I wear mine now. I

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Speaker 3: I one day I came in one of the ones

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Speaker 3: that I got from Tricky Camf and He's like, looks

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Speaker 3: like a hopshot, Like you're Darne right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I can spot the hut.

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Speaker 3: I don't have himbossed yet. We're gonna move. We're working

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Speaker 3: our way up there.

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Speaker 2: Those are Papa Bishop. He would love all about that

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Speaker 2: pearl snaps snaps on the He always needs to have, uh,

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Speaker 2: you need to have the pockets here with the snaps.

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Speaker 2: He's big on that, so that that would check every

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Speaker 2: box off. Yeah, I think I've got seven or eight

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Speaker 2: of these a high quality.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah.

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Speaker 5: And like you said, you know, when you're farming, you're

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Speaker 5: out and about, you're making little notes. You got little

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Speaker 5: things that you don't want to put in your pocket

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Speaker 5: because they're hard to get in your pocket when you're

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Speaker 5: in a tractor, a skidload or whatever. It's nice to

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Speaker 5: have these pockets up here. And yeah, this is this

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Speaker 5: is the shirt. This is the one you want.

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Speaker 3: That's a beautiful burgundy hue. It really is, it really is.

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Speaker 2: Well, dude, I'll just bet we'll get into all the

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Speaker 2: fun in a second. I'm I'm not happy, man, I

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Speaker 2: don't nobody is. Do you want to do? Do we

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Speaker 2: want to start with any glasses half full? Or we

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Speaker 2: glass half empty across the board?

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Speaker 3: No, we could do plenty of glasses.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's start what this was about. And if you

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Speaker 2: go back to what the beginning of you think about

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Speaker 2: this summer, you think about everything since the draft. The

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Speaker 2: big objective that you and I have talked about has

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Speaker 2: been we have got to figure out if either of

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Speaker 2: the rookie quarterbacks can be the answer long term and

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Speaker 2: at the time also or Kenny Pickett one of the

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Speaker 2: young guys. Are any of those three guys the answer

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Speaker 2: at quarterbacks? So that next year do we have to

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Speaker 2: take a quarterback or not? Or is that something that

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Speaker 2: maybe we can apply those assets in the draft. Differently,

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Speaker 2: this was Dylan Gabriel's first start. I did not think

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Speaker 2: for a second that the stage was too big. He

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Speaker 2: did not in any way appear to be wide eyed

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Speaker 2: or surprised by anything that he saw. Are the things

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Speaker 2: that he would want back, I'm sure, But as debuts go,

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Speaker 2: pretty good out of him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, nineteen to thirty three hundred and ninety yards, two touchdowns,

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Speaker 3: rating of ninety four point three. Yeah, it was a

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Speaker 3: good debut for the most part. But this is a

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Speaker 3: league that is based on what I like to call

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Speaker 3: situational football, but in particular money downs and money situations

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Speaker 3: and the Browns unfortunately in this game, and some of

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Speaker 3: it falls on the quarterback, Some of it falls on

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Speaker 3: play calling, some of it just falls on drop, some

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Speaker 3: of it falls on execution. You know, you could go

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Speaker 3: through the like, but you have to be good on

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Speaker 3: third down is and that to me, it's not fully

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Speaker 3: a quarterback stat but it's kind of a quarterback stat

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Speaker 3: and this has been an issue for this Cleveland Browns

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Speaker 3: team now all season long. Regards for the quarterback is,

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Speaker 3: but you're three to fifteen on third downs in this game.

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Speaker 3: And then the other one is when you've got to

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Speaker 3: get it done right, when you have got to produce.

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Speaker 3: And you look at the Browns possessions that begin with

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Speaker 3: fifty six seconds left to go in the third quarter,

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Speaker 3: three plays nine yards, punt plays four yards, punt, five plays,

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Speaker 3: seventeen yards. You did get one first down there, punt

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Speaker 3: your final four possessions of the game before the hurry up.

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Speaker 3: You did get a first down there. But I'm talking

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Speaker 3: about in those situations where you had opportunities. I thought

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Speaker 3: to put this game away and was there to be one. Defensively,

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Speaker 3: were you good? Yeah, for the majority of the game

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Speaker 3: you were good. Three sacks, two takeaways. The thing that's

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Speaker 3: hard for me in this one is we said, way man,

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Speaker 3: we just got to play clean football. We got to

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Speaker 3: run the ball, we got to play good defense. Special

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Speaker 3: team's got to be at least neutral. And yes, they

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Speaker 3: had the one punt that completely flipped the field. I

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Speaker 3: still think Rex Sunahara touched that ball down in play

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Speaker 3: and then his foot slid onto it. I thought, once

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Speaker 3: you touch it, it's dead, so it should be dead too.

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Speaker 3: I would have liked to see a challenge on that.

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Speaker 3: Maybe they said you can't challenge it. I don't know,

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Speaker 3: but I thought special teams were at least somewhat neutral,

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Speaker 3: and you didn't win. And I think that's the thing

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Speaker 3: we said, Okay, threw By the way, no quarterback, no

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Speaker 3: quarterback had thrown two touchdowns against the Minnesota Vikings this

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Speaker 3: year on the season. Yeah, the Vikings had had a

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Speaker 3: takeaway in twenty of their last twenty one games. No giveaways.

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Speaker 3: We clean that up. You throw two touchdowns on them,

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Speaker 3: you feel good about that. It just was a game

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Speaker 3: that ultimately, you know, they made more plays than you did,

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Speaker 3: and that was that. I mean, the Browns actually in

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Speaker 3: special teams were, according to you know, EPA per play,

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Speaker 3: totally neutral. We were a little bit under them on

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Speaker 3: the fact that we had those big takeaways.

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Speaker 5: To me, the disappointing thing was the amount of penalties

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Speaker 5: if you're a team that's built with a great defense

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Speaker 5: have to be is great on special teams and you

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Speaker 5: have to minimize self inflicted wounds. And that's mainly penalties.

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Speaker 5: They had ten for seventy eight yards, including critical ones

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Speaker 5: Quinn Shawn Judkins, which could have changed the outcome of

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Speaker 5: the game. But then also in the second half, if

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Speaker 5: you go into halftime and I think they had six

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Speaker 5: that was what was really killing him and holding him back.

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Speaker 5: There needs to be a new focus in the second

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Speaker 5: half on Hey guys, we're in the driver's seat right now.

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Speaker 5: I know maybe some of the people on the outside

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Speaker 5: didn't think we'd be sitting here leading or with a

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Speaker 5: chance to win this thing with a rookie quarterback at

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Speaker 5: his first start overseas in London, But we're sitting here

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Speaker 5: right now. This is where we are, and so let's

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Speaker 5: go snatch it. Let's seize the game, but let's not

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Speaker 5: play not to lose. But we also have to minimize

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Speaker 5: the penalties, and I thought the penalties they reared their

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Speaker 5: caused the loss. In my opinion, out of all the

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Speaker 5: that you feel like, hey, if this is who we are,

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Speaker 3: Here's the problem too. Five of those who said ten penalties, yeah,

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Speaker 3: came from the left tackle. One came from the right tackle.

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Speaker 3: So that's six of them on the offensive line, but

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Speaker 3: five at the left tackle where you were rotating two guys.

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Speaker 3: Cam Robinson we just traded for, had two penalties and

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Speaker 3: to be to say the least. Our offensive line really

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Speaker 3: thought Joel had a solid game. We still struggle with

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Speaker 3: those just te stunts and in critical moments like we're

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Speaker 3: we have unblocked guys. The line play, I thought from

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Speaker 3: a pass protection standpoint still was not great in this one.

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Speaker 3: But you're right, those penalties and to have five of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it felt like in the you know, from from

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Speaker 2: my then, it felt like we were trying to massage

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Speaker 2: fourteen would be enough for seven, Like it's not enough. Well,

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Speaker 2: of course, but that's what it felt like to me.

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Speaker 2: It felt like we were trying to massage a win.

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Speaker 2: Let's seventeen fourteen, we'll put it on the defense, let's

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Speaker 2: get out of here victory. In a way we go.

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Speaker 2: We did not play the fourth quarter in my view,

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Speaker 2: fearlessly at all. It felt like we were everything was

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Speaker 2: just let's just try to get this over with and

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Speaker 2: except for when we were really needed to try to

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Speaker 2: that regard. So like that, there was some mismanagement there

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Speaker 2: as well, But it was one of those games that

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Speaker 2: like you felt like, this is here, just go take it,

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Speaker 2: and the fourth quarter we did it.

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Speaker 3: So there are a couple plays I think in particular,

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Speaker 3: we got a little bit lucky, and I don't know

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Speaker 3: you guys have seen the replay, but I just remember

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Speaker 3: watching the field goal kick by Rekert and being like,

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Speaker 3: the ball just went weird and he kicks it off

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Speaker 3: the cable and I think it's there's enough. I think

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Speaker 3: on the video the ball goes from going end over

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Speaker 3: end to sideways, so it hit something. Yeah, and it

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Speaker 3: bit of a break there. But when they punt it down,

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Speaker 3: you know, and to me, that's one where you got

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Speaker 3: a young guy back there Gage Larvada, and he wasn't

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Speaker 3: a punt returner in college. Yeah, this is something he

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Speaker 3: did in the preseason. He was over on kind of

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Speaker 3: one side of the field, the punt's over on the other,

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Speaker 3: so he doesn't get to field it. It ends up

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Speaker 3: trickling all the way down to the one yard line.

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Speaker 3: That's hidden yardage and that stuff always, as you know,

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Speaker 3: adds up. But we have a chance. We come out

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Speaker 3: of there, first down, one yard, second out, great young

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Speaker 3: by Quinjohn, run by Quinjohn for eight yards. Now it's

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Speaker 3: third and one. And on this third and one we

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Speaker 3: went back to with the exact same look and the

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Speaker 3: exact same play that we'd used earlier in the game

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Speaker 3: on fourth down on the opening touchdown drive. That where

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Speaker 3: we end up converting to Fannin on the one yard

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Speaker 3: touchdown pass the first one of the game, the exact

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Speaker 3: same play, and Jonathan Gernard the first time kind of

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Speaker 3: the only kind of in the scheme. The only way

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Speaker 3: to get that play was running down from the backside.

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Speaker 3: The first time, he kind of played it neutral. Second time,

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Speaker 3: he was like, this could be a big bom in

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Speaker 3: the game. I mean, that's two minutes first downs, two

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Speaker 3: minutes at this point, runs right down the line and

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Speaker 3: blows it up and we gain the exact same look,

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Speaker 3: no different window dressing. And one of the things that

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Speaker 3: Kevin has done so well in the past is, yeah,

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Speaker 3: you can run the same play, but you dress it

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Speaker 3: up differently, or you say, this time, we're gonna run

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Speaker 3: the same play, but we're gonna start the receiver on

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Speaker 3: the right side and bring him in motion a jet motion,

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Speaker 3: so that at least the guy on the backside has

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Speaker 2: But the idea that of things that are scary offensively

437
00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:12,000
Speaker 2: for the opposing defense, there's it's very limited, and it

438
00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,000
Speaker 2: might just be limited to ten. I mean, Fan and

439
00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:17,080
Speaker 2: Chief have moments. Certainly Judy's had some moments, and maybe

440
00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:20,160
Speaker 2: Bond turns into something, but right now it's ten.

441
00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:22,560
Speaker 3: We cannot are there.

442
00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:27,160
Speaker 2: You can't have ten for seventy eight. You can't be misaligned.

443
00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:31,359
Speaker 2: It's too critical. We have to play perfectly offensively to

444
00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:32,600
Speaker 2: have success in the NFL.

445
00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:37,359
Speaker 3: Well, yes, and no, I think we also have to

446
00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:43,240
Speaker 3: be like one thing it's easy for us saying, oh, yeah,

447
00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:44,920
Speaker 3: we should have just invited Dylan Gabriel to do a

448
00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,119
Speaker 3: naked bootleg on third and one from row nine that

449
00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:48,560
Speaker 3: gets stopped, or is like, why didn't you give it

450
00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:50,679
Speaker 3: to Gwin Shawn Judkins, Right, I mean that's the problem

451
00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:51,919
Speaker 3: in the NFL.

452
00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:53,360
Speaker 4: Whatever you do, it doesn't work.

453
00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:53,920
Speaker 6: You were wrong.

454
00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,800
Speaker 3: It's totally outcome biased. But so I'm looking at the

455
00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:58,840
Speaker 3: first down play when we get the ball back at

456
00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,960
Speaker 3: the end, and we're talking about that Bazz, So just

457
00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,760
Speaker 3: take me through from because this is way beyond my

458
00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,800
Speaker 3: knowledge base, but I think I have a fairly good idea.

459
00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,840
Speaker 3: So on that first down play, they came out with

460
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,760
Speaker 3: four defensive tackles, two defensive ends, so there are six

461
00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,480
Speaker 3: down linemen. They have six guys on the line. They

462
00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:21,480
Speaker 3: have two linebackers that are five yards off the ball maybe,

463
00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:23,679
Speaker 3: and a safety that's five yards off the ball. They

464
00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:25,879
Speaker 3: have a corner on our receiver who is a solo receiver,

465
00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:27,840
Speaker 3: which is Jerry Judy, and then they have a safety

466
00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:29,840
Speaker 3: in the midfield. So that's nine guys.

467
00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,280
Speaker 2: It's walking over to take a look.

468
00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:41,919
Speaker 3: One, two, three, four, five, six. So you have to

469
00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,719
Speaker 3: throw like you can't run into that.

470
00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,320
Speaker 5: It's a challenging front to run into because you've got

471
00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,760
Speaker 5: you've got seven blockers and then you've got eight with

472
00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:51,879
Speaker 5: the full back in the backfield, but they also have

473
00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,120
Speaker 5: you see the corner in the outside, he's peeking in,

474
00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,399
Speaker 5: so he's a forced player on the outside. You got

475
00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,119
Speaker 5: another corner safety who's off the ball, so there's a

476
00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,520
Speaker 5: lot of bodies in there. And that's a situation where

477
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:03,240
Speaker 5: you would love to be able to say, Okay, Dylan,

478
00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,640
Speaker 5: let's go on a double count and then you've got

479
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,280
Speaker 5: two options, right if you can see what they're doing

480
00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,440
Speaker 5: after you go through the double count and you feel

481
00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,880
Speaker 5: comfortable changing it to a pass, some type of a

482
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,000
Speaker 5: man beater because you think they're probably in man coverage

483
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,439
Speaker 5: with all those guys up front. Hey, let's get to that.

484
00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 5: But you know, he's in his very first start, and

485
00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,360
Speaker 5: I'm sure they were just worried about trying to get

486
00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:25,919
Speaker 5: the very basic game plan in that they had in

487
00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:27,600
Speaker 5: there and try to give him as much as he could,

488
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,880
Speaker 5: but not overwhelming with too many options with the line

489
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:30,520
Speaker 5: of scrimmage.

490
00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:32,080
Speaker 3: And I wonder if that's part of the challenge of

491
00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:35,040
Speaker 3: playing this game in London is because we did not

492
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:40,080
Speaker 3: get a Thursday practice. We practice on Wednesday. You lost Thursday,

493
00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,359
Speaker 3: you got to walk through, but that's not quite the same,

494
00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:45,480
Speaker 3: and then you had Friday, but it just there were

495
00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,600
Speaker 3: You're exactly right, the margin for error is not there,

496
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 3: and we have got to be better at at you know,

497
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:56,960
Speaker 3: taking advantage of that, of the opportunities that present themselves.

498
00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:01,119
Speaker 3: And you know, so far, unfortunately we just we haven't

499
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:02,639
Speaker 3: done it. And half I'm watching it right now. The

500
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 3: second down play, Now there are nine guys even closer.

501
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 3: So there they said.

502
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,160
Speaker 4: They wanted Dylan to throw the ball in that situation.

503
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 3: And I think sometimes you have to say, okay, we're

504
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 3: going to because you have created a situation where that

505
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,639
Speaker 3: is now leveraged to us. The advantage is it is

506
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 3: our advantage in that situation. And you know, I also

507
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,640
Speaker 3: understand the idea of being concerned. I think I would

508
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 3: have wanted at least to use on the third play,

509
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:29,880
Speaker 3: at least get that forty seconds or a time out

510
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,040
Speaker 3: for some one way or the other. But you know, look,

511
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:33,720
Speaker 3: we got the number one defense in the league. You're

512
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 3: going against Carson Wentz. A no offense to Carson Wentz,

513
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,680
Speaker 3: but you're going against Carson Wentz. Yeah, you got to

514
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,400
Speaker 3: keep them out of the end zone, and we did

515
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 3: not do that, and so on some level the defense

516
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 3: is culpable. But the fact of the matter is we

517
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 3: are now historically unproductive on offense and we have to

518
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:52,119
Speaker 3: go we don't score.

519
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:53,880
Speaker 2: Enough and we have way too many penalties, and that's

520
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:54,880
Speaker 2: just too We are on score.

521
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 3: More than seventeen ten games. I think you have to

522
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 3: go back to like.

523
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,399
Speaker 2: It's Jamis over, other than Jamis last year and then

524
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:02,639
Speaker 2: Joe like yeah.

525
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 3: But I'm even saying forget the last the last time

526
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,879
Speaker 3: without Jamis was Thursday night against the Jets, which is

527
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 3: the end of twenty twenty three. This whole year, no,

528
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 3: and even dating back to last year. No, so ten

529
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 3: straight seventeen or fewer. And I think somebody sent that

530
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 3: the statu I was in one of in those things

531
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 3: like it's the two teams that have done it this long,

532
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 3: like you have to go back to one of them

533
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 3: is like two thousand and one. Yeah, and this is

534
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:29,119
Speaker 3: a very different game. And sometimes to me it's crazy

535
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,639
Speaker 3: because you're watching around the league, you know, as we

536
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,159
Speaker 3: did after the game. Most drives now start at the

537
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 3: thirty five or the forty. Oh yeah, like, and these

538
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 3: guys can all make fifty five yard field goals, so

539
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 3: you really only need to get like yard to have

540
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 3: a chance, chance.

541
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:47,720
Speaker 2: A chance for points. Yeah, and we we can't do it, uh.

542
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 2: Your impressions of Dylan in his debut.

543
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 5: So, I think he exceeded expectations. I thought that poised.

544
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,399
Speaker 5: We expected him to be poised, but I think he

545
00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:01,199
Speaker 5: was poised even beyond maybe what I anticipated, just because

546
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,439
Speaker 5: you know, he's a cool, calm character. He's got you know,

547
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 5: sixty three college starts, and he's got a ton of experience.

548
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 5: But this is just such a bigger stage when you

549
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 5: are playing in the NFL and especially in the international game,

550
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,640
Speaker 5: where all the eyes of the NFL as they're waking

551
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:16,640
Speaker 5: up getting ready for their game are watching you.

552
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 4: And you know that it.

553
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 5: Doesn't take very long to be in the NFL to

554
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 5: know that this is a big game that people are watching.

555
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 5: And when the eyes are on you, you're knowing that

556
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 5: people are going to be giving you an evaluation. They're

557
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,199
Speaker 5: going to look from the very first snap that you

558
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,879
Speaker 5: take through the entire game to figure out who is

559
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 5: Dylan Gabriel and how is he as an NFL quarterback?

560
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 5: And so with that stage set like that and that

561
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 5: much pressure on him, I thought he did a really

562
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 5: good job managing the game. I thought he didn't make

563
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 5: any big mistakes. He did a great job putting the

564
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,439
Speaker 5: football where he needed to for the most part, and

565
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,439
Speaker 5: overall he seemed like he was a veteran quarterback in

566
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 5: those moments. Now the area I would like to see

567
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 5: him get better at. In the second half, he played

568
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 5: not to lose, and part of that's because we do

569
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 5: have this great defense, and I think that's how we've

570
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:04,360
Speaker 5: called the game a little bit. In that second half.

571
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,360
Speaker 5: He said, Hey, look, we're playing with the lead. We're

572
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,639
Speaker 5: doing things well. Our rookie quarterbacks got us in this game.

573
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,120
Speaker 5: Just don't screw it up, right, And too often when

574
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,119
Speaker 5: you have that, that's when you screw it up because

575
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,879
Speaker 5: your defense is also kind of thinking the same thing, like,

576
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 5: we got this, put it on us, And then you're

577
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 5: getting a different offense that's playing against you because now

578
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 5: they don't have anything to lose. They don't care. Carson

579
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 5: Wentz has already beat up. It's his last drive of

580
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:31,159
Speaker 5: the game. He doesn't care he's going to hang in there,

581
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 5: he's going to try to extend plays, he's going to

582
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 5: take shots. And when they got Justin Jefferson, who's the

583
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 5: best receiver in the game out there, like, he's going

584
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 5: to take some shots at that guy. And it's hard

585
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 5: to keep him down the entire game. It's hard to

586
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 5: not allow him to touch the football on the final drive.

587
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 5: And so I think you've got to have that killer mentality,

588
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 5: And that's one thing I think Dylan needs to continue

589
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,439
Speaker 5: to work on and find in those close games, in

590
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:58,200
Speaker 5: those situations down the stretch where he's not so risk averse,

591
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,479
Speaker 5: where he's willing to take some shots. Now, we need

592
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 5: some more help from our receivers, but I think looking

593
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 5: at Harold Fannin and David Nijoku and kind of building

594
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 5: around a little bit of the tight end game, some

595
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 5: of those opportunities to push the ball at least in

596
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 5: the intermediate portion of the field and then push it

597
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 5: to Jerry Judy hopefully or Isaiah Bond with just saying, Hey,

598
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 5: we need to take the top off the defense a

599
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 5: little bit and we just need to take a shot.

600
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,919
Speaker 5: We just have to take some shots because these defense,

601
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 5: the coverage just keeps creeping down on us.

602
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 4: Everything so hard.

603
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 2: We'll have to complete it. We'll think, just as far

604
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 2: as you can get exact.

605
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,160
Speaker 3: Let me just give you guys a couple of numbers.

606
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 3: But one of the reasons why it's so hard in

607
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 3: the red zone is because the field is so compressed.

608
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 3: That's why it's red zone offense is difficult. Well, prior

609
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 3: to the final drive, prior to the final drive, which

610
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 3: was we're just trying to get down you know in hell, Mary,

611
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 3: basically we did not attempt to pass of more than

612
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,679
Speaker 3: twenty yards in the air, just attempt and I do

613
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,159
Speaker 3: think you have to throw those. You have to to

614
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,640
Speaker 3: loosen up the coverage at some point. It doesn't matter

615
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,679
Speaker 3: if it's complete not. They have to respect it. Prior

616
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:10,439
Speaker 3: to the final drive, we were two of nine for

617
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 3: twenty six yards in the game on passes that went

618
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 3: ten yards in the air or more. And so you say,

619
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 3: where can Dylan get better? Obviously it's that. Here's the

620
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,479
Speaker 3: one thing. Here's great great news. You want some glasses

621
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,360
Speaker 3: half full of great news. Dylan Gabriel when under pressure

622
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 3: in this game, When under pressure in this game, seven

623
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 3: of eleven for seventy two yards, two touchdowns, no interceptions

624
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,159
Speaker 3: in a quarterback rating of one twenty two. Dylan Gabriel

625
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 3: won Blitz eleven of eighteen for eighty six yards and

626
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 3: a touchdown. Quarterback rating of ninety one point four when

627
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 3: kept clean Dylan Gabriel twelve of twenty two, one hundred

628
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 3: and eighteen yards, five point four yards per attempt, and

629
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,959
Speaker 3: a rating of sixty nine point nine. That's where as

630
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 3: a quarterback you've got to excel. You've got to excel

631
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 3: when everything actually is good. And now some of that's

632
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 3: on your receivers to get open and create the separation.

633
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 3: But we have got to be able to li you know,

634
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 3: down the field and just to give kind of like

635
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 3: a contrast in this exact same game, Wentz in this

636
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 3: game was one hundred and forty one hundred and forty

637
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 3: two and a touchdown. Of his yards one hundred and

638
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 3: forty two of them came on passes more than ten

639
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 3: yards in the air. For us, it was it was

640
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 3: basically forty yards if you take out the last drive,

641
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 3: which I really think that's a prevent hard to take out,

642
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 3: it was sixteen yards. It came on passes more than

643
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 3: ten yards. In the year we've got to be more

644
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 3: effective and at getting the football down the field. Our

645
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 3: wide receivers are non existent at this point. It was

646
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 3: Fanning and it was a joke who had a very

647
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 3: nice game, But to me, that's part of that's part

648
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 3: of the problem. And there is something either schematically or

649
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 3: with the quarterbacks and they're rushing their process that is

650
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 3: not allowing us to get the football down the field

651
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 3: because everybody so everybody's doing I'm not Frank the tank,

652
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 3: but if you look brown the league, there are a

653
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Speaker 3: lot of people throwing the football down the field and

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Speaker 3: doing it successful.

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Speaker 5: And that's one of the reasons you make the switch

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Speaker 5: from Flacco because he's not pushing the ball down the field.

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Speaker 5: So at what point do you wonder, are we not

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Speaker 5: calling plays they can get these guys open down the field.

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Speaker 5: Are our quarterbacks too risk averse because they're worried about

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Speaker 5: making turnovers, or our receivers just not getting open when

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Speaker 5: we are calling the plays to try to push the

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Speaker 5: ball down the field.

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Speaker 3: The one that I saw where we had a clear

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Speaker 3: deep shot, it was they were either playing Cover three

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Speaker 3: or Cover one, but on the outside. Basically the same

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Speaker 3: principles and bond had roasted this guy by like five yards,

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Speaker 3: but pressure blew it up. But that was the only

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Speaker 3: one where I really saw where like there was a legit,

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Speaker 3: there was a shot throw it down the field, and

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Speaker 3: there was a touchdown in the offing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just tough sledding. You go about your business

672
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 2: this way, you commit a bunch of penalties. Everything underneath there.

673
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Speaker 2: It's such a difficult needle to thread to try to

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Speaker 2: have success in the league when there's really nothing opposing.

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Speaker 2: Defense's fear and that makes it hard.

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Speaker 3: It makes it real hard. And here's the other thing.

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Speaker 3: And I know, look justin Jefferson. In my opinion, I

678
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Speaker 3: wouldn't say he's singularly great in the NFL, but he's

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Speaker 3: in that cluster of two three the best in the business.

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Speaker 3: There were a couple plays. There was one where they

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Speaker 3: had a third down and the second half where we

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Speaker 3: were in a we played cover two. He was in

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Speaker 3: the slot, so you know it's likely from there he's

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Speaker 3: gonna be the run running the seam ball. And it

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Speaker 3: was third and long and we let him be wide

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Speaker 3: open on that, which I thought was insane. Like I

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Speaker 3: think if you're the safety on that side, the got

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Speaker 3: the outide didn't run a vertical. You got to be like, Okay,

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Speaker 3: where's Justin We can't where's we can't just let him

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Speaker 3: throw the ball down the middle field to eighteen and

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Speaker 3: they did that. It was I'm trying to see where

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Speaker 3: it was to Justin Jefferson. Anyway, that was a bit.

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Speaker 3: It was a big third down one. I thought for

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Speaker 3: the most part, we did a pretty good job on him. Defensively.

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Speaker 3: I thought we were going to do a lot more

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Speaker 3: against the quarterback, to be honest with you, than we

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Speaker 3: were able to do given their offensive line issues. Still

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Speaker 3: ended up with three sacks, but the pressure was not

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Speaker 3: there at the level. And you go to that last

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Speaker 3: drive and I'm the reason I brought up Jefferson is

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Speaker 3: Justin Jefferson was the pass on the right sideline for

702
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Speaker 3: it was twenty one yards. It was the first and

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Speaker 3: ten from Cleveland's fortieth. They just got a couple of

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Speaker 3: checkdowns to Hawkinson and then they hit Jefferson for that

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Speaker 3: big one that gets them down basically like just out

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Speaker 3: to our twenty seven. I want to say Denzel was

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Speaker 3: in perfect position. It was just a perfect throw, and

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Speaker 3: Justfin Jefferson was able to make a catch with Denzel.

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Speaker 2: Literally all over in chest.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's when you have those guys like, we

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Speaker 3: don't know, when's the last time we just threw it

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Speaker 3: to somebody. Maybe the one he threw a corner route

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Speaker 3: the chief that was against Cover two. That was beautiful,

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Speaker 3: I think I said on the I thought that was

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Speaker 3: one of those where the coaches like, no, no, no,

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Speaker 3: because the corner was completely right and if you threw

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Speaker 3: that any lower, we're going the other way. But there

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Speaker 3: was a no, no, no, yes. But you know, we don't.

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Speaker 3: We don't have the guys that clearly, our quarterbacks at

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Speaker 3: least right now, feel comfortable giving those opportunities to And

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Speaker 3: that's hard because that's what it takes in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: They get that. And then all of a sudden, you know,

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Speaker 3: third down when we had a chance to really stop him.

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Speaker 3: I think it was third and four at r twenty one.

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Speaker 3: We took our second time out. We're saying, okay, this

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Speaker 3: is it, you stopping right here holding a field goal.

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Speaker 3: We still got a time out to go get a

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Speaker 3: field goal for us, and they caught us in man

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Speaker 3: and they did a great job. They brought a guy

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Speaker 3: from all the way on the right in motion, Miles

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Speaker 3: Harden was on him and he had because of to

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Speaker 3: get around, had to bow out, and they just ran

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Speaker 3: a speed out right underneath it. And there was there

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Speaker 3: was no way for our coverage with that scheme that

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Speaker 3: we were able to do it. And now the other

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Speaker 3: thing I want to give Kevin O'Connor a little bit

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Speaker 3: of credit for, and I don't know if you guys

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Speaker 3: picked up notice this. They did a great job and

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Speaker 3: so did the Lions last week. Now, Miles Harden has

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Speaker 3: been up to the task and he's played very well

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Speaker 3: given the circumstances. But they did a really good job

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Speaker 3: of doing late motions. So like they would have Jefferson

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Speaker 3: at one, they'd have somebody here too, and they would

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Speaker 3: do it a late motion where he just slides inside

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Speaker 3: and now this is one Jefferson's two to get him

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Speaker 3: on Miles Harden, and they did it so quickly that

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Speaker 3: our court like you couldn't. That's how you have to

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Speaker 3: play it. And so they did a good job of

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Speaker 3: doing it. But Miles aren't played very well. He's played

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Speaker 3: very well the last two weeks, but it's those little

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Speaker 3: things and then at the end, you know you're Uncover two.

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Speaker 3: You got to reroout the receiver, and Denzel said it

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Speaker 3: he knows that it's a rare mistake by a great, great,

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Speaker 3: great great player. But it's just those things add up

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Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden, boom, you lose. You're like,

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Speaker 3: what the which?

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Speaker 2: Just what the heck?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because we didn't turn it over. No, and special

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Speaker 3: teams was that at least a neutral in this game?

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Speaker 3: You know they missed a kick. We made our kick. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and you still lose. It's you don't lose off in

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Speaker 3: the phone. You win the term of battle by two.

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Speaker 2: No, No, usually that's well, usually that does it. Those

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Speaker 7: Okay, obviously, still feel the same way as it did

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Speaker 7: after the game. Frustrated, disappointed that we don't close that

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Speaker 7: game out in the fourth quarter. Obviously, so got to

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Speaker 7: find a way in those moments to play complimentary ball.

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Speaker 7: And that's that's all us to get it done, and

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Speaker 7: that's what we'll focus on, and that's what we'll work

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Speaker 7: very hard at doing and making sure that we're all

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Speaker 7: at our best in those moments. But with that, I'll

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Speaker 7: take any questions.

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Speaker 8: Hey, Kevin, after watching the film, what were your takeaways

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Speaker 8: about Dylan's first start?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of positives.

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Speaker 7: Scott obviously can always be better, and certainly we as

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Speaker 7: an offense have to be better and score more to

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Speaker 7: help this football team. But for you know, a young

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Speaker 7: player in that environment versus that defense to take care

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Speaker 7: of the ball make the plays he made. I thought

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Speaker 7: was a lot of positives with plenty to clean up.

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Speaker 7: And that's what he will do. And that's the mentality

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Speaker 7: he has is certainly to be a player that you

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Speaker 7: know continues to get better weekend and week out.

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Speaker 8: And when you look at that last Vikings drive, the

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Speaker 8: winning touch on drive, what would the issues defensively that

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Speaker 8: you saw? What could you have done differently?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, obviously you know, give them credit, but we had

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Speaker 7: a couple mistakes there and guys played really, really, really

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Speaker 7: well and then kind of had one lapse there towards

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Speaker 7: the end and it cost us in that drive, which

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Speaker 7: is disappointing. Our defense wants to be on the field

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Speaker 7: in that moment, and I have no doubt that in

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Speaker 7: the future we put him in that spot, they'll come through.

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Speaker 9: Hey, Kevin, I wanted to ask about that last drive too,

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Speaker 9: So I know you had asked about this yesterday with

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Speaker 9: the timeout, So the first one specifically, would you have

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Speaker 9: liked to have had that time out called earlier? I

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Speaker 9: felt like there maybe ten or fifteen seconds that went

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Speaker 9: off the clock before you called that.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, obviously, anything in those scenarios, Dan, you know, I

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Speaker 7: want to make sure I'm putting the team in a

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Speaker 7: good spot. If there's things that we can improve, we will. Obviously,

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Speaker 7: the mentality was try to keep some time on the

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Speaker 7: other side of it, but we can definitely be better there.

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Speaker 9: And then just with quinnche On yesterday obviously his best

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Speaker 9: game since you've gotten him here, But can you just

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Speaker 9: talk a little bit about how he played yesterday and

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Speaker 9: when he plays like that, what does that do for

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Speaker 9: your offense?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a tough out.

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Speaker 7: He's kind of showing us and everybody the type of

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Speaker 7: player he is. You don't have to remember that he

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Speaker 7: got here late and has continued to get better each

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Speaker 7: and every game. He's a fiery competitor and you know

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Speaker 7: he had you know, a bunch of plays there. Obviously

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Speaker 7: had a one called back for the holding and I

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Speaker 7: understand why that was called. But he continues to make

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Speaker 7: hard yards when there's hard yards we made, and then

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Speaker 7: when it's blocked clean as it was a few times yesterday,

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Speaker 7: you see that he does have the ability to go.

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Speaker 7: So a young player again, that will only get better

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Speaker 7: each week.

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Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 10: I actually have seven questions. Hopefully some of them will

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Speaker 10: be asked after my stand here. Two quick ones for Kevin.

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Speaker 10: Do you believe that the left tackle the Vikings fall

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Speaker 10: started on that touchdown to win the game?

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Speaker 7: Honestly, it doesn't matter. I understand the question, Tony. I

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Speaker 7: thought it live, but it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 10: Another question I have is, you know we've talked over

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Speaker 10: the years of your head coaching job. Here you share

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Speaker 10: input in game and hectic situations through the headphones. Do

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Speaker 10: you believe you have too many voices in your ears

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Speaker 10: in those hectic situations.

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Speaker 7: I don't, Tony, I don't. I'm very comfortable with the

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Speaker 7: group we have in game.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, Kevin, I wanted to ask about your guys second

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Speaker 11: to last drive, the three and out, just given the

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Speaker 11: way the Vikings were stacking the box against you guys.

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Speaker 11: Watching that back, I guess what did you think of

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Speaker 11: how you guys handled that?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: You know, obviously, Ashley, get into four minute drives and

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Speaker 7: the goal there is to stay on the field, get

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Speaker 7: first downs, make the clock, roll and finish the game

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Speaker 7: with the ball. Obviously, going three and out doesn't get

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Speaker 7: it done. And when you look at that as a coach,

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Speaker 7: you always immediately and also now think about different things

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Speaker 7: that you can do. There's a ton of philosophies there

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Speaker 7: and what you're trying to do, who you're trying to

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Speaker 7: play through, if you want to have risk involved, and

870
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Speaker 7: you know, potentially use the quarterback there. So there's all

871
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Speaker 7: sorts of things that we can do can do in

872
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,800
Speaker 7: that situation. And anytime you come up short, you always

873
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 7: think about putting your players in position to succeed. So

874
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 7: frustrating to not gain yards on that first and second

875
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 7: down calls, and then frustrated obviously to come away with

876
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 7: an incompletion on third down. But we'll teach off of it,

877
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 7: we'll learn from it.

878
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 11: And then I wanted to ask about David because I mean,

879
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 11: stats wise, this was his best game. I guess how

880
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 11: important was he and the performance he had in terms

881
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 11: of what Dylan was able to do.

882
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, obviously we ask a lot of Dave in the

883
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 7: run game and certainly in the past game as well.

884
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 7: I thought he had some good moments out there in

885
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Speaker 7: the run game, straining versus a very very good Vikings defense,

886
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 7: and then you know, come big in the red zone

887
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 7: there in the middle of the field. I thought, was

888
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 7: you know, a nice nice outing by Dave.

889
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Speaker 12: Hey Kevin, I have two questions. One on those timeouts,

890
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 12: did you think considered not using them since the Vikings

891
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 12: were down to one timeout and just forcing them to

892
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,240
Speaker 12: end up kicking a field goal as time was taken off.

893
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:29,359
Speaker 7: Yeah, obviously, Jeff, you think about all those things in

894
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 7: those moments. You know, obviously it didn't work out for

895
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 7: us how we wanted it to work out, both in

896
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 7: the result of the game, and you know that drive itself,

897
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 7: so there's you're always thinking about different ways that you

898
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 7: can do it. But we trust our guys to come

899
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 7: through it. But we didn't come through as a football team.

900
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 7: That's players, coaches, that's offense, defense, and special teams.

901
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 12: And then secondly, did Dylan Gabriel show you enough that

902
00:41:55,520 --> 00:42:01,240
Speaker 12: maybe he even started throwing downfield more to Jerry Judy

903
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 12: and the other wide receivers.

904
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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's it's always a product of the game you're in. Jeff,

905
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 7: I would tell you we have a lot of faith

906
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 7: in Dylan and our past receivers, whether that's from the

907
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 7: wide receivers, tight ends, running backs, you name it. We

908
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,399
Speaker 7: have a lot of confidence in our guys. So it's

909
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 7: just very dependent on the team you're facing and what

910
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:23,839
Speaker 7: they're doing in the back end.

911
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 13: Yeah, Kevin, a little bit on the wide receivers. I mean,

912
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 13: going in I think the very end of the game

913
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 13: you got a catcher too, but only five catches for

914
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 13: the wide receivers. I mean, how can you get them going?

915
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 13: You know, it seemed to be a big difference. You

916
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,359
Speaker 13: got ten catches out of your tight ends, but on

917
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:43,760
Speaker 13: you know, the difference in the game you see the

918
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,800
Speaker 13: Vikings wide receivers making plays all over the place and

919
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,320
Speaker 13: you're limited to three or four catches.

920
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it's so game specific for d but

921
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 7: we obviously believe in our guys and we have to

922
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 7: find a way to be more explosive and obviously stay

923
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 7: on the football field so you can score those points.

924
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 7: And our wide receiver room will factor into that. So

925
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 7: it's every game is different, but we have a total

926
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 7: trust in those guys.

927
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 8: Hey, Kevin, on the last play of the game, besides

928
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 8: Jamari breaking that tackle, Like, what needs to happen there

929
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 8: for you to get a shot at the end zone.

930
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 7: Well, yeah, like you said, you know, trying to get

931
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,280
Speaker 7: the ball out of bounds, figureing you like your chances

932
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 7: throwing the ball the end zone from the twenty five

933
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 7: better than you do from the fifty.

934
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:32,919
Speaker 6: You know, good play by them.

935
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 7: Felt like we had a decent chance of executing there,

936
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:37,839
Speaker 7: but you got to say good play by them.

937
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 8: I mean, looking back, does it feel too risky that

938
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:42,879
Speaker 8: you don't get a ball thrown into the en zone there?

939
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 6: Yeah?

940
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 7: You know, again it's a risk reward and all these

941
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 7: type of discussions and decisions that you're making, Scott, whether

942
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 7: you know you take that hail Mary from the fifty

943
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 7: or from the twenty five, you're taking a risk in

944
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 7: what you do.

945
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 8: And is a plan to get Cam ready to start

946
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 8: at left tackle next week?

947
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 7: Yeah, we'll work through all those type of things the

948
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 7: next couple of days.

949
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 4: Yeah.

950
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 9: Kevin, a question about Dylan and kind of his workload.

951
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 9: How much did the circumstances of last week, you know,

952
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 9: only having two real practices and having to travel on

953
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 9: and how much do that dictate kind of what you

954
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 9: could ask him to do and will a full week

955
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 9: of practice, Well, that means you can maybe put a

956
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 9: little more on his plate this week.

957
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,879
Speaker 7: I would say it's very game specific, Dan in terms

958
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 7: of the opponent and who you're facing and what they

959
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,320
Speaker 7: what they do and how they do it. Obviously, the

960
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 7: week last week was unique.

961
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:34,280
Speaker 6: I thought that.

962
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 7: Dylan and the guys handled that fine. I don't think

963
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 7: that had anything to do with the plan and those

964
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 7: type of things. That were very prepared, But I think

965
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 7: it's very specific to your opponent is probably the biggest thing.

966
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 10: Okay, I only got two left, so go through them

967
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 10: real quick. In preseason, Gabriel was very good at converting

968
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 10: third downs. Yesterday you were three of fifteen.

969
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 4: What do you attribute that to?

970
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think each one you can probably talked through

971
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 7: Tony and it's a combination of things. But I thought

972
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 7: by and large he was getting through progressions. There's things

973
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 7: that I know he can do better that all that

974
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,839
Speaker 7: he knew when he's walking off the field, so he's

975
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 7: got very good self awareness in those type of things.

976
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 7: But that was a very good pass defense that we

977
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 7: were facing, both from a coverage and a pass rush standpoint,

978
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,399
Speaker 7: So I thought he did a good job of taking

979
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 7: care of the football, moving in the pocket when he

980
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,919
Speaker 7: needed to. But bottom line is, you have to try

981
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 7: to find a way to stay on the field, and

982
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 7: a lot of times it's your ability to be efficient

983
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 7: on first and second down and put you in some

984
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 7: manageable third downs that.

985
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 6: Will allow that.

986
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 10: All right, And this last one falls into the category

987
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 10: of who cares at this point? But was anyone on

988
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:46,919
Speaker 10: the sideline aware that that the fifty one yard field

989
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 10: goal carry him off the cable?

990
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 2: I was not aware.

991
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 7: I'm not sure if anybody else was.

992
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 6: I was not aware.

993
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 11: I know you talked about the receivers as a whole,

994
00:45:56,600 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 11: but just with Jerry specifically, and he's handful of he's had,

995
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:04,399
Speaker 11: including the one yesterday. Like, is there anything that you're

996
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 11: seeing with him, like technical there or anything. Is it

997
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 11: just a weird stretch for him right now? Just with

998
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:12,760
Speaker 11: that part specifically.

999
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, nothing technical. Actually, Jerry continues to be our best

1000
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 7: wide receiver. We have to find ways to get him

1001
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 7: involved in the game. Having said that's he's a leader

1002
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 7: on this team. He will do anything in his power

1003
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 7: to help this football team. And I'm excited about, you know,

1004
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 7: the future for Jerry and this offense. But obviously I

1005
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 7: know he's he wants to do more and we want

1006
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 7: him to do more.

1007
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 14: Well, I actually took one of my questions, but I

1008
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 14: was also just gonna ask I know, postgame he sort

1009
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 14: of talked about it with having Jerome in for that

1010
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 14: finals drive before the half for pretty much.

1011
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:49,800
Speaker 1: All those plays.

1012
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:52,879
Speaker 8: Is that more so about.

1013
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 14: Just like experience where he's been in those situations more

1014
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 14: obviously Quinnchun's only played the four games at this point,

1015
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 14: and maybe trust in pass protection a little bit as well.

1016
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, when you get into two minute drives

1017
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 7: and you're playing at the line of scrimmage. Obviously we

1018
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 7: have a veteran in Jerome that that we trust in

1019
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 7: the past protection game and the and the you know,

1020
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 7: the run game, pass running routes, et cetera. Quincheawn will

1021
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,800
Speaker 7: continue to grow in those areas. And then you're also

1022
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 7: trying to be mindful of Q's workload and making sure

1023
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 7: that he's fresh, you know, for all sixty minutes.

1024
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 8: Any injuries coming out of the game, Kevin, And how'd

1025
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 8: you think Jack held up in his first game back?

1026
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, guys, some guys banged up, but feeling good about

1027
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,399
Speaker 7: you know, where they are for to start the week out,

1028
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 7: and then I thought Jack held up real well, performed

1029
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,439
Speaker 7: well in his first game back.

1030
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:43,240
Speaker 8: Thanks.

1031
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,120
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Speaker 2: The mattress made for more crafted in Cleveland, just like

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Speaker 2: our Browns. All right, So right, tackle Hoff pretty good

1053
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 2: spot when Jack Conklin's there. Obviously it's a slip off

1054
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 2: when he does it. We've had the injury to Duan

1055
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 2: there's no putting that genie back in the bottle. Would

1056
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 2: what can we do with what we're doing at left

1057
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:11,319
Speaker 2: tackle to be more successful than we are?

1058
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 5: Well, I think that you know, Cam Robinson has the

1059
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 5: most talent at that position. Being that this was his

1060
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 5: first week here, you were kind of easing him into

1061
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 5: it by rotating. But next week he's going to have

1062
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:23,839
Speaker 5: to just be out there full time because he's your

1063
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 5: best option. He's not a Pro Bowl type guy, okay,

1064
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:31,319
Speaker 5: but you're going to have to just get him out

1065
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:33,359
Speaker 5: there and get him as many reps as he possibly can,

1066
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 5: try to get him up to speed as quickly as

1067
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 5: you can, and do everything you can to try to

1068
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 5: get him ready to be the guy because he's your

1069
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 5: best option. Yes, And unfortunately, tackle is one of those positions.

1070
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 5: It's not like you just find a guy in the

1071
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 5: street in the middle of the season. It just doesn't happen.

1072
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 5: Like there's plenty of NFL teams that don't have a

1073
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 5: tackle that they love, but there's just not more than

1074
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 5: sixty four of them in the NFL, it's just a

1075
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:57,320
Speaker 5: position that there's a dearth of supply. And so especially

1076
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 5: when you lose a guy like a Dwand who is

1077
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 5: doing a great job like coming into his own and

1078
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 5: being a starter and a consistent starter, and then Jack

1079
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 5: being out a good bit already this season, like you're

1080
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:12,360
Speaker 5: in a passle of hurt out at that tackle position,

1081
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Speaker 5: And if you can continue to get the run game going,

1082
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 5: I think that helps those guys because then hopefully you

1083
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 5: can start running more of those bootlegs and those play

1084
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 5: action passes, which takes the pressure off your tackles to

1085
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 5: just drop back in pass pro. And so for me,

1086
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 5: if I'm going, okay, what's the glass half full perspective

1087
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 5: on the rest of the season, you put Cam out

1088
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 5: there and then you say, we need to really start

1089
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 5: getting the run game going even further and just continue

1090
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:37,879
Speaker 5: to rely on that more and then find the play

1091
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 5: action plays that look like those runs that we're having

1092
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:43,439
Speaker 5: success with to get those shots down the field because

1093
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 5: we know our tackles can't hold up just consistently dropping

1094
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 5: back and throwing the ball. And that's not really what

1095
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:50,720
Speaker 5: Dylan would be the best at anyway, because he doesn't

1096
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 5: have the cannon to stand in the pocket at seven

1097
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 5: yards and throw sixty yard bombs down the field.

1098
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 3: Yes, and look, I start over one hundred games, so

1099
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 3: you're gonna put him right in there, and you're gonna

1100
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 3: hope that it meshes up. I think that we've got

1101
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 3: a tap. Here's the problem is that offensive We've got

1102
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:11,439
Speaker 3: a lot of problems. Yeah, there's a lot we've got

1103
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:13,880
Speaker 3: to be. If we're not if we are not the worst,

1104
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 3: we have got to be very close to the worst

1105
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,359
Speaker 3: third down offense in the National Football League. And that

1106
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 3: makes it very difficult to be a team that can

1107
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 3: be productive consistently and have those long drives and have

1108
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 3: the ability to score more than seventeen points if you

1109
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 3: especially if you're not hitting chunk plays.

1110
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 5: And if you're not hitting chunk plays, it's really hard

1111
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 5: to hit those intermediate throws to set up third and

1112
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 5: shorts right because the defense is creeping down towards the

1113
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 5: line of scrimmage. Your safeties aren't playing that deep, your

1114
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:48,760
Speaker 5: corners are playing more press coverage towards the line of scrimmage,

1115
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,479
Speaker 5: and so without pushing the ball at all, it makes

1116
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 5: everything harder. And then you get stuck in third and

1117
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 5: lungs and then your third down efficiency looks terrible.

1118
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:58,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I would say we've done a very good

1119
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 3: job with the tight ends, but I think partially because

1120
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:04,919
Speaker 3: of the tackle problem. They're involved in chipping quite a bit,

1121
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 3: so that delays their release and makes it harder for

1122
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 3: them to get down the field, which is why so

1123
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 3: many things are so underneath to them. I will go

1124
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 3: back and I will say, you know, glass half ful

1125
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 3: stuff with Gabriel is his ability in the red zone.

1126
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 3: That ball to David A. Joko in the second touchdown,

1127
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 3: He's even covered by Byron Murphy's a Pro Bowl cornerback. Yeah,

1128
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 3: that was a great ball and the camas about it

1129
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 3: looked like a second or third read. He was looking left,

1130
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 3: comes back boom boom boom and throws it in there.

1131
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 3: But we've got to find a way, yeah, to push

1132
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:31,320
Speaker 3: it down there. Hopefully better tackle play will give the

1133
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 3: quarterback more comfort to you know, not necessarily have to

1134
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 3: feel like they have to speed up their process. And

1135
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 3: we can get some of those, but when we've got

1136
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 3: them too, like Jerry Jud's got to catch the ball. Yeah,

1137
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 3: I love Jerry Jude. Jerry Judy was so productive for

1138
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 3: us last year career high twelve hundred and fifty yards

1139
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 3: you know, pro bowler, all of it. But we need

1140
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 3: we need that guy. Jerry Judy for his career has

1141
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 3: been over eight yards of target, like right there, kind

1142
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 3: of where a Mari was for his whole career. This

1143
00:52:57,160 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 3: year it is it is well below that, and you

1144
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 3: know that's got to come up. But we've got to

1145
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:03,840
Speaker 3: find a way to be explosive. And it can't just

1146
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 3: be It's so hard to regly on it. Even when

1147
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 3: we had Nick here, it's so hard to rely on

1148
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:11,840
Speaker 3: your running back to be the explosive piece of your offense.

1149
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:13,800
Speaker 3: That's just a hard thing to count on weekend and

1150
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:14,800
Speaker 3: week out in the NFL.

1151
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 2: No, I mean when we had Nick, we had Jarvis,

1152
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:19,839
Speaker 2: we had Odell for some of it. Then we had

1153
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 2: a Mari. I mean like you had weapons. Yeah, you

1154
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 2: had some weapons that people had to contend with. And

1155
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 2: we had an offensive line that was younger and in

1156
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:29,359
Speaker 2: its prime and one of the best in the league.

1157
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:32,840
Speaker 2: So all of those factors now have changed. And the

1158
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 2: reality is, as this goes back to the margin Pear

1159
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 2: air conversation, offensively for us because of.

1160
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 3: The way that we're built.

1161
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 2: We needed all of our guys to play at their apex.

1162
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:45,840
Speaker 2: And so in addition to this to not being explosive,

1163
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:48,799
Speaker 2: all those things we're not, we're playing under what our

1164
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:50,840
Speaker 2: talent is at several positions.

1165
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would almost argue on offense, rather than being

1166
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:56,840
Speaker 5: so risk averse, since you're not really dinking and dunking

1167
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 5: and getting the ball down the field, I would rather

1168
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 5: be let's run the ball and then just throw bombs,

1169
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 5: because you know what, we're only scoring fourteen points with

1170
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 5: this version of our offense, so we might as well

1171
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 5: take some shots and hope that, you know, we might

1172
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:10,799
Speaker 5: throw a couple picks a game, but we're hoping that

1173
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 5: at least the balls down the field, and we've got

1174
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:14,839
Speaker 5: such a good defense it's not going to hurt us

1175
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 5: that much to throw those interceptions. But at least we'll

1176
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:20,360
Speaker 5: have an opportunity to make some big plays on offense,

1177
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 5: because it's really really hard to go the long, hard,

1178
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,359
Speaker 5: slow way down the field in the NFL because you

1179
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:29,479
Speaker 5: don't have those consistent playmakers. Yeah, because one drop kills

1180
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:31,319
Speaker 5: the drive, one penalty kills the drive.

1181
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 4: When you do it like that, beck your margin for you're.

1182
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 2: Listening to a fifty ESPN Cleveland, a good Karma brand

1183
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:36,919
Speaker 2: station WKNR.

1184
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 6: Go ahead, Bud.

1185
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 3: So there's another thing that I noticed in this game,

1186
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 3: and I'm curious. I wonder if it was kind of

1187
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:46,320
Speaker 3: the coaching was whenever Gabriel threw it to the sideline,

1188
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 3: or maybe he felt like he was getting pressure and

1189
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 3: ad to get rid of it, he was just kind

1190
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:50,840
Speaker 3: of I mean, he was wearing five ten yards. It

1191
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:52,880
Speaker 3: was a throwaway. Yeah, there were a lot of throwaways.

1192
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 3: There's a play I'm looking at one right now. We

1193
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 3: are at about their thirty four and he has a

1194
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 3: decent pocket but decides he's going to the outside. It's

1195
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 3: totally covered up. Judy runs basically into the corner, or

1196
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 3: Isaiah Bond runs into the corner and he just chucks

1197
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 3: out of bounds and they had a bust It was

1198
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:12,479
Speaker 3: a busty coverage right down the middle. David Djok who's

1199
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 3: wide open, and he just didn't see it and just

1200
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 3: kind of ends up air mailing it. And when you

1201
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 3: get those opportunities in the NFL, you really have to

1202
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:25,399
Speaker 3: you really have to capitalize on them. And I think

1203
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 3: that that goes back to us saying earlier, Like I

1204
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:31,799
Speaker 3: probably think if if somebody was covering our receiver as

1205
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 3: well as Denzel Ward is covering Justin Jefferson on that play,

1206
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:37,799
Speaker 3: like Dylan throws that into the stands. Yeah, and that

1207
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 3: ends up being a twenty one yard game, And it's

1208
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 3: a great point change in everything. And at some point,

1209
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 3: like we're gonna have to be and we can't live obviously,

1210
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:49,720
Speaker 3: like when we were turning over two or three times

1211
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:52,840
Speaker 3: a game with Joe or even with Jamison that run.

1212
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 3: But there's got to be a balance between the two.

1213
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 3: And at some point, you know, if you're paying guys,

1214
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 3: you know, over ten million dollars a year, you got

1215
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 3: to give them opportunities to make play. So really, only

1216
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 3: one time I thought we gave somebody an opportunity to

1217
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:05,400
Speaker 3: make play was the one in Najoku and you went

1218
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 3: up and he made the play.

1219
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, do you do you just uh, let me

1220
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 2: ask you this off as a quick aside. Do you

1221
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 2: watch just left tackles sometimes? Like from when you watch

1222
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 2: a game for fun, how do you watch it?

1223
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1224
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:23,279
Speaker 5: If I'm not specifically focusing on thinking about watching the

1225
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 5: whole thing, yeah, my eyes just always go to that position.

1226
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, right. It's like, you know, if.

1227
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:29,879
Speaker 5: Your son is playing running back, I feel like you're

1228
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 5: just watching the running back position, right, You're so trained

1229
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 5: to just focus your eye on that position. But obviously

1230
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 5: from calling games after I retired, like I'm starting to

1231
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 5: watch the bigger picture more and it's becoming more natural

1232
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:43,240
Speaker 5: to just watch safeties and kind of watch the perimeter

1233
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:46,400
Speaker 5: and the structure of what's going on. But yeah, if

1234
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 5: I'm just at home kind of casually watching, my eyes.

1235
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 4: Always go to that position.

1236
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 2: Is there a young guy I'm putting me on the

1237
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 2: spot here? Is there a young guy that or even

1238
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 2: a vet that you're like, that's that's how you do it?

1239
00:56:57,800 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1240
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 5: Uh, there's quite a few good young tackles that I

1241
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:04,799
Speaker 5: really enjoy. Jordan Mylotta, he's not a young tackle, but

1242
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:06,759
Speaker 5: he's He's a guy for the Eagles that I think

1243
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:08,719
Speaker 5: is one of the best tackles in the NFL. And

1244
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 5: a guy that played rugby, no football experience, went to

1245
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 5: the IPP program straight from New Zealand. Uh and then

1246
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 5: he was just a massive rugby player that they turned

1247
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 5: into a left tackle. And it's fun to watch him

1248
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 5: because he's got really good technique. He was able to

1249
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 5: learn that very quickly, even though he had no background

1250
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 5: whatsoever like that going into when he started training in

1251
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 5: Florida with international player Pathway. So I do like him

1252
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 5: a lot. At the break, I'll give you a list.

1253
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 2: On the spot. But I just you know, the kid

1254
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 2: with the Patriots' is getting a lot of heat right now,

1255
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 2: the Campbell kid, because you know, people were kind of

1256
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 2: going that it was a little bit of a slow

1257
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 2: start for him. He played really well last night.

1258
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 4: Amazing right tackle there for you.

1259
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's just I'm just was curious because obviously

1260
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 2: we're right now we're trying to find answers for it,

1261
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 2: and when Jack's there, we have him, and when he's not,

1262
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:55,959
Speaker 2: we don't.

1263
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 3: All right, Hoff, I want to ask you this to

1264
00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:00,120
Speaker 3: on the on their touchdown play. Have you seen in

1265
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 3: the video of their touchdown play at the end the

1266
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 3: unfore last game? Yeah, did that left tackle go earlier?

1267
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 3: Was that a hof?

1268
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 4: Oh, I didn't see I didn't see that.

1269
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 3: Come over, come out over watch He's gonna watch it

1270
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:11,440
Speaker 3: in the break.

1271
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 15: Coach, Yeah, let's watch it and break. But coach basically

1272
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 15: acknowledged it in the press conference today. It was like,

1273
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 15: I think you did, but I can't pass.

1274
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 2: I'm gonna. I'll be honest with you, though. Isn't the

1275
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 2: past to Addison on first down? The touchdown was on

1276
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 2: first or second down.

1277
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 3: It wasn't first and first and ten at the seventeen.

1278
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 2: That's the touchdown that wins it right.

1279
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 3: First, So that's what's saying. But they're not at the seventeen.

1280
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:40,240
Speaker 3: The scoreboard, there was wrong about everything. I didn't get

1281
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 3: his first down at like the twelve the rough day.

1282
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 2: For okay, so up the way that it was going,

1283
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 2: whether he moved early or whether Denzel did the right thing,

1284
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 2: they were scoring. They were really going to get three

1285
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 2: or seven, yeah, at that point, so I the mistakes

1286
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 2: were before that is kind of you know my view

1287
00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 2: with that. But all right, well we'll get the answer

1288
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 2: to all that on the other side of this quick

1289
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:03,200
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1294
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1295
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:17,960
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1296
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Speaker 15: All right.

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Speaker 2: Head to Meyers Scan the Hillshire Farms, QR Code and

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Speaker 2: the Meat Department and Tel November set November eleventh for

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Speaker 2: a chance to win a suite for ten to the

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Speaker 2: Steelers game on December twenty eighth. Time to go around

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Speaker 2: the league. A little overreaction Monday around the league.

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Speaker 6: Hello Gibbe, Hi, you were doing this or I was

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Speaker 6: doing this?

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Speaker 2: I like it when you do it, I like it.

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Speaker 15: I just keep going back and I told you this earlier,

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Speaker 15: like if you factor in, if it's just all East Coast,

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Speaker 15: time forget take the London out of it. We wrapped

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Speaker 15: up a game at twelve forty pm yesterday afternoon Eastern time. Yep,

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Speaker 15: wheels down in Cleveland at one fifteen am. Yeah, that's insane.

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01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:39,920
Speaker 15: I mean that that's thirteen hours later. You're on the ground.

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Speaker 15: It's wild. It's been a whirlwind, and it's gonna and

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Speaker 15: it's gonna be a regular thing. Yeah, especially once this

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Speaker 15: new CBA gets in. It'll be eighteen games, like Ceciliana

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Speaker 15: said on the pregame yesterday, and it's gonna be every

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Speaker 15: team's gonna play one game overseas every year somewhere.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I know we have it scheduled up at

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Speaker 2: four twenty five or thereabouts four thirty maybe, But I

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Speaker 2: am curious you guys are all there, and I just

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Speaker 2: do have some questions about like how's this all going,

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Speaker 2: like that type of thing, like we've been doing it

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Speaker 2: for a long time over there. Yeah, So we can

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Speaker 2: get in that in a minute. But it's good to

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Speaker 2: have you all back.

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Speaker 6: It is good to be back, no question.

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Speaker 15: Let's do a little overreaction or not, well, kick things

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Speaker 15: off with the Patriots can win the AFC East. Is

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Speaker 15: that an overreaction this afternoon or not? Joe Thomas, you

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Speaker 15: are a guest, you are up first.

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Speaker 5: I think it's still an overreaction because I still think

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Speaker 5: the Bills are going to be the favorite, and I

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01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 5: don't think Josh Allen is going to allow the Patriots

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Speaker 5: to win because I like Drake May, I like everything

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Speaker 5: that Vrabel's doing in New England. I just don't think

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Speaker 5: they have enough talent to consistently keep that level of

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Speaker 5: play going to win that division when you've got Josh

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Speaker 5: Allen there, Right, it's an overreaction when you win one game. Yes,

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Speaker 5: they were great, nobody expected it to happen, YadA, YadA, YadA,

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Speaker 5: But this is still Josh Allen's division.

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Speaker 2: Bo Bishop, Yeah, I'm with the Hoff. I think it's

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Speaker 2: an overreaction for now. Uh.

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Speaker 15: In two years, you two were pretty high on him

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Speaker 15: going into this game.

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Speaker 2: I liked him a lot. I like him a lot,

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01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:19,280
Speaker 2: and I just like what Raves is doing over there.

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01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 2: Like he's just a one man culture tornado. He comes

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01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:24,680
Speaker 2: into a situation, it flips in a big way, in

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Speaker 2: a in a big way, and and the kid is good.

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Speaker 2: The kid can play. And now that like their offensive

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01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:33,959
Speaker 2: line is in a nice spot. So Digs are getting

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Speaker 2: a lot out of Digs. They already thought he.

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Speaker 3: Was cooked, So like, why do you think they're not

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Speaker 3: using Travion remember how everybody trust that we drafted quin

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Speaker 3: I would think I would think trust and not Travian

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Speaker 3: maybe just trust, which.

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Speaker 2: Is crazy because he had such I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I've read a lot. That's his pass pro, which everybody said.

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Speaker 4: That he was a lad.

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Speaker 2: He was better than Quinch on a pass pro at

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Speaker 2: Ohio State.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, yes, I don't. Is it an overreaction, Yes,

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Speaker 3: I think it is an overreaction. But do I think

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Speaker 3: New England is a legitimate playoff contender? Yes, I yes,

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Speaker 3: I do. I think that they are a playoff. Drake

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Speaker 3: May is awesome.

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Speaker 2: He's great.

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Speaker 3: He's awesome.

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Speaker 15: Next up, overreaction or not? The AFC North is Pittspukes

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Speaker 15: to win or to lose?

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Speaker 2: Bo Bishop No, no, no fact fact they gave me

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Speaker 2: Baltimore didn't play. Baltimore's injury report yesterday is maybe the

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Speaker 2: most talented injury report I've ever seen in the history

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Speaker 2: of football. Who didn't play and they got bombed, You

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Speaker 2: were dead on I thought, God, Baltimore magic, No, not

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Speaker 2: bombed in every way, Bob. Cincinnati might not win again

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Speaker 2: for a month. I mean, they are incompetent.

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Speaker 3: And they actually scored. At least it's fun yeah, but

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Speaker 3: they scored late. It was.

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Speaker 2: There he is, so yeah, it's Pittsburgh's and I got

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Speaker 2: I think they're gonna be the only team out of

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Speaker 2: this division in the postseason. I got news, which is crazy.

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Speaker 2: I thought that there would We thought maybeither for sure,

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Speaker 2: there'd be two. At the beginning before the Burrowings, we

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Speaker 2: thought maybe three. Yep, as Pittsburgh being the third. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean a month in, they're gonna win the division.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna be only one of the post season because

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Speaker 2: I think Baltimore's digging out of this.

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Speaker 3: See Baltimore could still come back. Here's the problem. We

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Speaker 3: had an opportunity to go to London and completely turn

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Speaker 3: the season around. And I know you'd say, oh, we

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Speaker 3: win just gets us to two and three. Yeah, it does.

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Speaker 3: The Steelers have been out gained in every game they've played.

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Speaker 3: The Steelers are not good. That's not a good football team.

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Speaker 3: We had an opportunity to go there, beat them, get

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Speaker 3: to three and three. They'd be four and two all

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Speaker 3: of a sudden, or they'd be three and two because

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Speaker 3: they've had to buy You're right there with a head

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Speaker 3: to head win, and then all of a sudden, it's

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Speaker 3: game on and this is that's the thing that is,

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Speaker 3: like you want to talk about maddening if you're a

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Speaker 3: Browns fan, it's maddening that you have Baltimore completely falling apart.

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Speaker 3: You've got Cincinnati completely falling apart. The Steelers are smoking

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Speaker 3: mirrorsing their way to wins. And this is the year,

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Speaker 3: this is the year to go win the division. We

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Speaker 3: have the best defense in the league. Yeah, and we're

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Speaker 3: one and four.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I mean who else is going to stand

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Speaker 4: in their way?

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Speaker 3: I don't think the Ravens can come back. They have

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Speaker 3: pretty easy is going to be out of They said

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Speaker 3: one more, one more game and then they have a bye,

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Speaker 3: and then they should be they should be pretty healthy.

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Speaker 3: They should be one and five and they'd be pretty healthy.

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Speaker 3: You look at Kyle Hamilton, rope all the players, Marlon

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Speaker 3: Lamar and then plays by way like that doesn't even

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Speaker 3: include Mattabek, who's.

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Speaker 2: No is out for the year, who's done? No, it's

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Speaker 2: their whole everybody.

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Speaker 3: Well that's why they got smoke. Dude. Davis Mills was

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Speaker 3: logging action in the game.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy, like, how big of a hole can who

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Speaker 2: do they play this week?

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Speaker 3: They have the Rams Yeah, so they're they're at home,

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Speaker 3: but the five, so they're gonna have to come back

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Speaker 3: and they're gonna have to get They're gonna have to

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Speaker 3: go nine and two over the final eleven.

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Speaker 2: And I still think they have some Marquis matchups in

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Speaker 2: there because there's some Sunday night games.

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Speaker 6: That they have to They played Buffalo.

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Speaker 2: Still, they do know they played Buffalo.

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Speaker 3: Play I'm sorry talking Cincinnati.

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Speaker 2: No, there's a stretch.

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Speaker 5: They've got their Steeler to finish the season. It's Patriots, Packers, Steelers,

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Speaker 5: and then before that Bengals, Steelers, Bengals, Jets, Browns, Vikings, Dolphins.

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Speaker 5: So there's some winnable games in there. But then those final.

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Speaker 3: They're gonna get hot. They're gonna get hot. And second

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Speaker 3: they're gonna be in the big hole though a huge hole,

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01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:44,600
Speaker 3: but they're gonna be playing. It's gonna be kind of

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Speaker 3: like Cincinnati year ago. Can they do enough?

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Speaker 6: Next up? Uh?

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Speaker 15: Speaking of the rat Birds, father Time is finally caught

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01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:57,480
Speaker 15: up to Derrick Henry overreaction or not Nathan's girl.

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Speaker 3: No, No, it is not a reaction. It is it

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01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:03,920
Speaker 3: is true. I mean I think it's a combination of that.

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Speaker 3: I think it's a combination of no Lamar obviously this week,

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01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:10,360
Speaker 3: and then I think those two fumbles like psychologically rocked

1453
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:12,520
Speaker 3: him because those that's the other thing. They could evilily

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01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:15,800
Speaker 3: have three wins. He's got two late game fumbles that

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Speaker 3: were massive, and I think it's changing now. He's how

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01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:21,600
Speaker 3: he's running the ball a little bit o plenty good

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Speaker 3: the first week.

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Speaker 4: I don't think it's an overreaction.

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01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:26,080
Speaker 5: He's at the point in his career where he needs

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Speaker 5: a full complement of offense around him to have the success.

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01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:33,040
Speaker 5: He's not making guys miss and making his own hole.

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01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:35,720
Speaker 5: He's not bringing his own blocker anymore. So when you

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Speaker 5: have Lamar and you got those other weapons there that

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01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:40,120
Speaker 5: open up those holes. Like he's still a difficult guy

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01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:42,439
Speaker 5: to bring down because he's still fast, he's still big,

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01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:44,840
Speaker 5: he can still break some tackles, but he's not the

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Speaker 5: type of guy that can do it by himself anymore.

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Speaker 2: Bishop, That's exactly what Hoff said printed no notes got it.

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Speaker 15: Next up, The Colts are the best team in the

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Speaker 15: AFC South overreaction or not, bo.

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Speaker 2: Bishop not not, they are.

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Speaker 6: They are.

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Speaker 2: I'm curious to see what Jacksonville does tonight because I

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01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:06,080
Speaker 2: do think Liam Cone's done a really nice job down

1475
01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:09,200
Speaker 2: there taking advantage of their weapons. You just look at

1476
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:11,880
Speaker 2: like Etn. That was a guy that was scrap heap

1477
01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:15,640
Speaker 2: and they he's found something with him. They're not on indies.

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Speaker 3: This is either.

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Speaker 2: It's a very big one tonight for them to see

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01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:24,280
Speaker 2: how they play, you know, in that moment. But no,

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Speaker 2: Indy is Indy's a little bit of last year's vikings

1482
01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:30,200
Speaker 2: to me. And I know there's the parallels with Donald

1483
01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:32,320
Speaker 2: and Jones, but maybe that's justified. I know, I think

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01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:35,400
Speaker 2: they're very realf I agree.

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Speaker 4: Printed.

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01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:42,120
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, I've Daniel Jones all the people we talked.

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Speaker 3: We spent a lot of time talking about Daniel Jones

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01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:47,080
Speaker 3: on this show because that was somebody the Browns were

1489
01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:49,599
Speaker 3: very interested in and they got priced out of that market.

1490
01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:52,799
Speaker 3: And he's now playing tremendous football. They've got a great defense,

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01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:56,400
Speaker 3: an elite defense. Yep, they're good. They are a good

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01:08:57,320 --> 01:09:01,120
Speaker 3: football team, and they are It's amazing how many times

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01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:03,120
Speaker 3: this has happened now, But in this case it wasn't

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01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:04,960
Speaker 3: from show voting. But they're a guy just kind of

1495
01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:07,639
Speaker 3: dropping the football going in the end zone away from

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01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:10,840
Speaker 3: being undefeated and having beaten the Rams on there, They've

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Speaker 3: got some good wins. They're they're good, by the way,

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01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:20,280
Speaker 3: and equally as the Raiders are a trash.

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01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:19,800
Speaker 2: They're really bad.

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Speaker 6: That has gone steadily downhill since week one.

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Speaker 3: My fan one of my one of my fantasy games

1502
01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:29,439
Speaker 3: were featured a cup I had gent in that game,

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01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:33,400
Speaker 3: I had Danny Dimes where the games were so bad.

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01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:35,120
Speaker 3: Houston was another one where I had some I had

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01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:38,000
Speaker 3: woody marks on Texans. The games were so bad that

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01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:39,880
Speaker 3: they stopped playing the stars on both sides, Like they

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01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:42,160
Speaker 3: didn't even leave Genty in the Raiders game. Now we're

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01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:45,000
Speaker 3: not getting you hurt. He's out. Then on the other side,

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Speaker 3: Danny Dimes is Richardson's in in like the third quarter.

1510
01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:51,400
Speaker 15: I mean it was just their beatings final one hoff

1511
01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:53,759
Speaker 15: the New York Jets. So the worst team in the NFL,

1512
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:56,360
Speaker 15: it's not even close, I think it.

1513
01:09:56,640 --> 01:10:01,040
Speaker 5: I think that is Sorry, No, I I don't think

1514
01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:03,360
Speaker 5: they're the worst team in the NFL. I think actually

1515
01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:05,400
Speaker 5: they're a lot better than their zero to five record.

1516
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:08,559
Speaker 5: Will say that they are, they're in the bottom part.

1517
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:11,000
Speaker 5: But I think the Las Vegas Raiders, in my opinion,

1518
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:13,599
Speaker 5: when you watch them, just watching them. They're a team

1519
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:17,320
Speaker 5: that continues to seemingly get worse each week. And I

1520
01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:19,200
Speaker 5: like the Jets. I think they got some scrappiness to them.

1521
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:20,720
Speaker 5: I think they're gonna be a team that they're not

1522
01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:22,519
Speaker 5: gonna win a lot of games, but they're gonna win

1523
01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:24,360
Speaker 5: a few of these close ones down the stretch, and

1524
01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:25,120
Speaker 5: they're a tough out.

1525
01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:29,400
Speaker 3: The Jets have are an anomaly right now. They have

1526
01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:32,240
Speaker 3: no takeaways in the first five games. They have been

1527
01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:34,400
Speaker 3: in the top half of the league both in offensive

1528
01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:38,040
Speaker 3: and defensive EPA per play, and they are not winning

1529
01:10:38,080 --> 01:10:45,519
Speaker 3: football games. Yet they would smoke Tennessee Vegas Saints. I

1530
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:48,240
Speaker 3: think the Giants. I think there are plenty of teams

1531
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:50,160
Speaker 3: that they would they would do just how did.

1532
01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:54,360
Speaker 2: The Tennessee type. So so I went and played golf

1533
01:10:54,439 --> 01:10:57,040
Speaker 2: with the boys, so I didn't watch. So when I left,

1534
01:10:57,200 --> 01:10:59,600
Speaker 2: Arizona was winning, and I'm like, all right, let's go

1535
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:01,640
Speaker 2: play golf, like let's enjoy yourselves, all right. So I

1536
01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:02,439
Speaker 2: didn't see any of it.

1537
01:11:02,520 --> 01:11:05,360
Speaker 3: Okay, you haven't seen clips, no nothing, you have not

1538
01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:09,240
Speaker 3: seen clips no college football in the morning, incredulo. I

1539
01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:11,400
Speaker 3: am credulous because these are some of the craziest things.

1540
01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:12,719
Speaker 3: How did it happen?

1541
01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:13,160
Speaker 6: All right?

1542
01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:20,800
Speaker 3: So Arizona is up twenty one to six. Yes, Arizona's

1543
01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:24,720
Speaker 3: up twenty one to six at the beginning of the

1544
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:27,679
Speaker 3: fourth quarter with and they're on their own twenty eight.

1545
01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:31,120
Speaker 3: Amari de Mercado, running back for Arizona, busts through a

1546
01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:36,400
Speaker 3: hole seventy two yards to the house. He does the

1547
01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:43,000
Speaker 3: as he's going in, flips the ball. Now, now I'm

1548
01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:46,800
Speaker 3: ninety nine point nine percent convinced the ball was still

1549
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:48,439
Speaker 3: in his possession when the nose of the ball broke

1550
01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:50,879
Speaker 3: the line and then he flipped it. But on replay

1551
01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:53,560
Speaker 3: they overturned it. So now that touchdown, which would have

1552
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:55,360
Speaker 3: made it twenty eight to six with twelve minutes ago

1553
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:58,840
Speaker 3: and the fourth quarter, now that becomes a touchback. Tennessee

1554
01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:03,120
Speaker 3: gets the ball. They go down the field and they

1555
01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:09,520
Speaker 3: score and they make it twenty one to twelve. Tennessee

1556
01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:13,240
Speaker 3: then they get the ball back from They get like

1557
01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:16,400
Speaker 3: a three and out, basically gets the ball back. They

1558
01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:20,400
Speaker 3: go down cam Ward. They're on the Arizona twenty. They

1559
01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:22,839
Speaker 3: are down twenty one to twelve. When this play begins,

1560
01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:29,519
Speaker 3: cam Ward throws the ball intended to Calvin Ridley. It

1561
01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:31,519
Speaker 3: is intercepted by a guy on the Cardinals.

1562
01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:32,599
Speaker 2: Okay, game over.

1563
01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:36,759
Speaker 3: Guy on the Cardinals kind of falls to the ground

1564
01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:39,000
Speaker 3: with the ball as he's starting to run back and falls.

1565
01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:41,280
Speaker 3: As he falls, the ball pops out into the air

1566
01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:45,720
Speaker 3: on the ground. Another Arizona guy then has it and

1567
01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:47,559
Speaker 3: scoops it is starting to pick up and turn around,

1568
01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:50,479
Speaker 3: and then he somehow fumbles it. It ends up being

1569
01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:53,640
Speaker 3: fumbled into the end zone, where Tennessee recovers it for

1570
01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:57,639
Speaker 3: a touchdown. So an Arizona interception.

1571
01:12:57,840 --> 01:12:59,320
Speaker 2: Turned into six turn.

1572
01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:02,880
Speaker 3: Into a touchdown. Yes, oh listen. This is the full

1573
01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:07,080
Speaker 3: play by play. It's amazing pass short left contended for

1574
01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:10,200
Speaker 3: Calvin Ridley, intercepted by Darian Taylor, blah blah blah, return

1575
01:13:10,280 --> 01:13:13,320
Speaker 3: for no gain. He fumbles recovered by Cardinal blah blah blah.

1576
01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:16,280
Speaker 3: Fumbles recovered by Tyler Lockett in the end zone. Touchdown,

1577
01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:20,000
Speaker 3: So they score there. Now it's twenty one to nineteen.

1578
01:13:22,200 --> 01:13:25,040
Speaker 3: They try to go Arizona does nothing. Cam Wore gets

1579
01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:29,400
Speaker 3: the ball back on his own eighteen and leads them down.

1580
01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:32,519
Speaker 3: There's a bomb of beautiful pass to Calvin Ridley thirty

1581
01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:34,439
Speaker 3: eight yards and they kick a field goal and they

1582
01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:36,880
Speaker 3: win the game. There was also another play in this

1583
01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:42,559
Speaker 3: game where Carolina, I'm sorry not Carolina, where Arizona was into.

1584
01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:50,320
Speaker 3: This was happened earlier. They were into Tennessee territory and

1585
01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:53,360
Speaker 3: the center snapped the ball before anybody was looking and

1586
01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:56,200
Speaker 3: snapped it off of his face mask and it gets

1587
01:13:56,280 --> 01:14:01,519
Speaker 3: fumbled and yoda, yell guy and they recovered with some

1588
01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:08,600
Speaker 3: So I mean, just completely insane, like some completely, completely

1589
01:14:08,680 --> 01:14:10,479
Speaker 3: completely insane things happened.

1590
01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:13,240
Speaker 2: It was crazy, yeah, crazy.

1591
01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:15,120
Speaker 6: We'll get to more of it tomorrow, but I wanted

1592
01:14:15,160 --> 01:14:15,639
Speaker 6: to touch on.

1593
01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:16,840
Speaker 3: Some of Yeah. So this was this was in the

1594
01:14:17,240 --> 01:14:20,559
Speaker 3: quarter they're at there at the Tennessee twenty and they

1595
01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:22,479
Speaker 3: snapped he snaps it right off of his helmet. It

1596
01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:25,880
Speaker 3: almost knocks Kyler over. Nobody on the line had moved

1597
01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:28,160
Speaker 3: other than the center. The other guy's standing up looking

1598
01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:32,840
Speaker 3: what it was happening. So, I mean it was a

1599
01:14:32,920 --> 01:14:35,880
Speaker 3: comedy of airs when you have an interception that becomes

1600
01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:37,639
Speaker 3: a touchdown for the other team. That is what we said.

1601
01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:38,960
Speaker 4: I don't know if I've ever seen that.

1602
01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:40,320
Speaker 3: No, no, I can't think of the.

1603
01:14:40,360 --> 01:14:41,479
Speaker 4: Time that that's ever happened.

1604
01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:43,320
Speaker 2: Well, we said, like when we picked it were like,

1605
01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:45,000
Speaker 2: there's there the amount of things it would have to

1606
01:14:45,080 --> 01:14:47,000
Speaker 2: go wrong for Arizona to lose this or for them

1607
01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:48,639
Speaker 2: to even be in the mix of the scores being

1608
01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:49,080
Speaker 2: in danger.

1609
01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:53,679
Speaker 3: So why have you guys seen the clip of Yannon

1610
01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:56,479
Speaker 3: the head coach and I have which I feel like

1611
01:14:56,520 --> 01:15:00,280
Speaker 3: there's something's gonna come out of that he's talking about. Yeah,

1612
01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:01,040
Speaker 3: after the guy.

1613
01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:04,920
Speaker 2: Who does the flip, Demarcado, Ricado got an offensive Lineman's

1614
01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:08,160
Speaker 2: got his arm around him and he's very clearly distraught

1615
01:15:08,360 --> 01:15:09,120
Speaker 2: about what's happened.

1616
01:15:09,160 --> 01:15:10,880
Speaker 3: Just hold the ball into the end zone and spike it.

1617
01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:11,760
Speaker 3: What's the big deal?

1618
01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:15,000
Speaker 2: He's never understood flip the ball, Just run Bo Jackson,

1619
01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:15,840
Speaker 2: run through it.

1620
01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:18,639
Speaker 3: Go right into the tunnel. So Gannon's given him the business.

1621
01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:20,760
Speaker 3: And then as he walks away, it looks like you

1622
01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:23,160
Speaker 3: can't tell there's I don't know if there's a but

1623
01:15:23,200 --> 01:15:25,759
Speaker 3: it certainly looks like he throws them a little cross

1624
01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:27,880
Speaker 3: into the chest as he walks off.

1625
01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:32,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, that did happen, So that ain't great. Obm the

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Speaker 2: over there. You've been over there several times. Off you

1643
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Speaker 2: did the double right, you did Octoberfest.

1644
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Speaker 5: And I did, yes, a couple of days at Octoberfest,

1645
01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:53,360
Speaker 5: and then on Wednesday flew up to London there to

1646
01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:55,880
Speaker 5: meet the boys and do the London Celebration.

1647
01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:56,840
Speaker 3: Oh it was great.

1648
01:16:57,080 --> 01:17:00,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, me and Z had a outstanding.

1649
01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:02,840
Speaker 6: You know, we had an unbelieve literally how I feel.

1650
01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:05,320
Speaker 5: It was the biggest by bone and rib I've ever seen.

1651
01:17:05,320 --> 01:17:09,680
Speaker 5: It's called brought Yeah, Brought on East London. Yeah, it

1652
01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:10,160
Speaker 5: was awesome.

1653
01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:15,160
Speaker 3: And turns out we went to the wrong one at

1654
01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:19,880
Speaker 3: like nine to thirty dish and they were we had

1655
01:17:19,880 --> 01:17:21,080
Speaker 3: to wait, but they got to say what They were

1656
01:17:21,160 --> 01:17:23,160
Speaker 3: very gracious, very gracious about it. They were cool and

1657
01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:25,320
Speaker 3: we put on a put on a pretty good So

1658
01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:25,960
Speaker 3: it was a.

1659
01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:29,320
Speaker 5: Cool little like upstairs restaurant that had open fire in

1660
01:17:29,360 --> 01:17:32,760
Speaker 5: the corner with grates that had various levels and so

1661
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:34,439
Speaker 5: they would cook. Like they gave us a big thing

1662
01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:37,599
Speaker 5: of grilled bread, which was amazing, Like this beautiful piece

1663
01:17:37,640 --> 01:17:39,439
Speaker 5: of bread that they just kind of lightly grilled on

1664
01:17:39,479 --> 01:17:42,479
Speaker 5: either side with some whipped butter and like I don't

1665
01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:45,880
Speaker 5: like the salt, Yeah, they like the Black Sea salt,

1666
01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:48,880
Speaker 5: you know, the volcanic salt or whatever that is. With

1667
01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:51,679
Speaker 5: that whip butter was amazing. I think that they grilled

1668
01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:54,000
Speaker 5: some garlic and like rubbed it on that bread and

1669
01:17:54,040 --> 01:17:55,639
Speaker 5: so it was like creamy and soft in the middle.

1670
01:17:55,640 --> 01:17:58,439
Speaker 4: It was like two inches thick. Yeah, it was amazing.

1671
01:17:58,479 --> 01:18:00,000
Speaker 3: We saw making it and I was talking to the

1672
01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:02,160
Speaker 3: to the ladies, I was like, what is which one

1673
01:18:02,240 --> 01:18:05,240
Speaker 3: is that we got some of that? So I had

1674
01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:07,519
Speaker 3: one of the best things I've I'm gonna say, one

1675
01:18:07,520 --> 01:18:09,439
Speaker 3: of the best things I've ever eaten. There are actually

1676
01:18:09,439 --> 01:18:11,120
Speaker 3: two things there that were two of the that better

1677
01:18:11,160 --> 01:18:12,880
Speaker 3: bites that I've ever had, because they're just so different

1678
01:18:12,920 --> 01:18:16,040
Speaker 3: things I've ever had. And the steak was phenomenal.

1679
01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:19,160
Speaker 5: I mean, I was telling them because they don't really

1680
01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:20,960
Speaker 5: know like the size of a steak and how big

1681
01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:23,439
Speaker 5: the animal was, that it had to be like a

1682
01:18:23,479 --> 01:18:26,200
Speaker 5: twenty two hundred pounds steer because the RIBI I'm not

1683
01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:27,720
Speaker 5: kidding you, it looked like a manhole cover.

1684
01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:28,880
Speaker 4: It was.

1685
01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:31,400
Speaker 3: It was what like four pounds.

1686
01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:33,920
Speaker 5: Look, yeah, Hall of Fame beef we slaughter at fifteen

1687
01:18:33,960 --> 01:18:37,280
Speaker 5: hundred pounds and your ribbi is maybe twelve inches you

1688
01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:40,439
Speaker 5: know across. This thing was like almost twice that. It

1689
01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:43,360
Speaker 5: was so massive, and the bone that it came on

1690
01:18:43,960 --> 01:18:45,760
Speaker 5: it looked like a Fred Flints stone bone.

1691
01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:47,759
Speaker 4: I mean, it was like a dinosaur. It was enormous.

1692
01:18:48,040 --> 01:18:50,640
Speaker 5: But then they cooked it on that open coal and

1693
01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:52,719
Speaker 5: it was kind of one of these slow processes where

1694
01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:55,120
Speaker 5: they put it right on the fire right away to

1695
01:18:55,120 --> 01:18:57,200
Speaker 5: get like a hard sear, and then they put it

1696
01:18:57,280 --> 01:18:59,360
Speaker 5: up above the fire maybe a foot and a half

1697
01:18:59,439 --> 01:19:01,920
Speaker 5: to kind of let it slowly render, and then they.

1698
01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:02,680
Speaker 4: Put it back down there.

1699
01:19:02,720 --> 01:19:05,080
Speaker 5: So it got this amazing like dark crust on the

1700
01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:07,920
Speaker 5: outside and a fat rendered really really well. It was

1701
01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:10,120
Speaker 5: an amazing, amazing steak and it was it was made

1702
01:19:10,120 --> 01:19:11,240
Speaker 5: for like sharing fee.

1703
01:19:11,360 --> 01:19:12,080
Speaker 6: It was. It was.

1704
01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:14,559
Speaker 4: It was like two inches thing, but it was really buttery.

1705
01:19:14,600 --> 01:19:15,639
Speaker 4: It was. It was wonderful.

1706
01:19:15,720 --> 01:19:17,600
Speaker 3: I had all I could eat. He had all he

1707
01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:19,200
Speaker 3: could eat. I mean, maybe we had some of the

1708
01:19:19,240 --> 01:19:20,280
Speaker 3: reserve if we needed.

1709
01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:22,000
Speaker 4: If we had to, we could be had. But we

1710
01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:22,400
Speaker 4: didn't want.

1711
01:19:22,439 --> 01:19:24,559
Speaker 3: We didn't know it was. But I remember watching them.

1712
01:19:24,600 --> 01:19:27,120
Speaker 3: I go, if that's what they're bringing, this is the

1713
01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:30,719
Speaker 3: biggest stake my life. It was awesome. But the breed

1714
01:19:30,760 --> 01:19:31,360
Speaker 3: of cow.

1715
01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:34,080
Speaker 4: Produces that I'm wondering, I don't know, Like a ka.

1716
01:19:34,200 --> 01:19:37,960
Speaker 5: It was like a massive that they just kept feeding

1717
01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:39,719
Speaker 5: for like years.

1718
01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:41,040
Speaker 4: They just kept feeding them.

1719
01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:44,000
Speaker 3: So we had one of the apps we had and

1720
01:19:44,200 --> 01:19:48,040
Speaker 3: was one of the best bites I've ever had was pigeon.

1721
01:19:48,760 --> 01:19:49,719
Speaker 3: It was a pigeon.

1722
01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:51,400
Speaker 2: I didn't hear that, didn't see that coming a.

1723
01:19:51,479 --> 01:19:56,160
Speaker 3: Pigeon skewer, and the skewer had a piece of glanchalie

1724
01:19:56,320 --> 01:19:59,560
Speaker 3: on it that was razor thin, almost like a pershooto,

1725
01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:03,240
Speaker 3: like a brijute. And so that was done, I think,

1726
01:20:03,280 --> 01:20:06,160
Speaker 3: on this flame, and so the the guanchli was almost melted.

1727
01:20:06,200 --> 01:20:08,880
Speaker 3: When I looked at it almost looked like I'll tell

1728
01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:10,320
Speaker 3: you in the break what it actually looked like, but

1729
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:14,560
Speaker 3: it was I didn't know what I was looking at.

1730
01:20:15,080 --> 01:20:17,599
Speaker 3: And then I realized that was the guancholi had almost

1731
01:20:17,640 --> 01:20:19,600
Speaker 3: melted into the meat, and then it had this balsamic

1732
01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:26,360
Speaker 3: and kind of it was un believable. And then they

1733
01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:27,760
Speaker 3: had a thing that was on like that some of

1734
01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:30,880
Speaker 3: the girled bread, but a smaller piece, and it had

1735
01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:33,800
Speaker 3: smoked muscles on it with some kind of like it

1736
01:20:33,840 --> 01:20:36,559
Speaker 3: was a yellowy orange sauce. I don't know even know

1737
01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:37,640
Speaker 3: what what it was like.

1738
01:20:39,320 --> 01:20:43,160
Speaker 4: It was probably mayonnaise, but he didn't know sauce.

1739
01:20:43,360 --> 01:20:46,360
Speaker 3: Did not care at that moment. I don't know if

1740
01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:48,400
Speaker 3: it was Mano, I think Ceciliano would have been fully

1741
01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:50,800
Speaker 3: out of I was between the two of us.

1742
01:20:51,439 --> 01:20:53,719
Speaker 5: That was a special bite though, because after in Europe

1743
01:20:53,760 --> 01:20:55,280
Speaker 5: for a year, I realized, like how much they eat

1744
01:20:55,280 --> 01:20:55,960
Speaker 5: pigeon over there?

1745
01:20:55,960 --> 01:20:56,719
Speaker 4: They called squab.

1746
01:20:57,120 --> 01:21:00,400
Speaker 5: It's a very big delicacy over there, but it is

1747
01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:03,000
Speaker 5: dry as you'd expect like a small chicken to be.

1748
01:21:03,320 --> 01:21:05,360
Speaker 5: But that's why they put that gunchali over on the

1749
01:21:05,400 --> 01:21:07,679
Speaker 5: top and they just let that fat like melt over

1750
01:21:07,720 --> 01:21:09,760
Speaker 5: the top and it was it was an elite bite.

1751
01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:10,320
Speaker 4: It was great.

1752
01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:14,559
Speaker 2: How sellout, Like, the crowd looked great, they were into

1753
01:21:14,600 --> 01:21:17,400
Speaker 2: it looks.

1754
01:21:14,920 --> 01:21:16,679
Speaker 4: Like great stadium.

1755
01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:17,080
Speaker 3: Awesome.

1756
01:21:17,080 --> 01:21:17,599
Speaker 6: That's a great.

1757
01:21:17,720 --> 01:21:18,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's brand.

1758
01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:20,920
Speaker 6: You can take the locker room facilities and just put them.

1759
01:21:24,720 --> 01:21:26,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, insane.

1760
01:21:26,280 --> 01:21:27,920
Speaker 5: The green room was beautiful. They had like a little

1761
01:21:27,960 --> 01:21:29,960
Speaker 5: VIP area right next to our green room. So I

1762
01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:32,080
Speaker 5: snuck in and ate some food there at halftime and

1763
01:21:32,120 --> 01:21:34,479
Speaker 5: after the game. Uh yeah, they did it. They did

1764
01:21:34,479 --> 01:21:36,280
Speaker 5: it upright. It's a area.

1765
01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:39,160
Speaker 2: Does it feel like when when the NFL is there,

1766
01:21:39,240 --> 01:21:41,679
Speaker 2: does it feel like that's all in? Is that take

1767
01:21:41,720 --> 01:21:45,000
Speaker 2: over London? Or are they still like what's the bigger

1768
01:21:45,040 --> 01:21:47,120
Speaker 2: thing is that the Premier League results on Saturday?

1769
01:21:47,160 --> 01:21:48,760
Speaker 3: Chelsea Liverpool on Saturday.

1770
01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:51,880
Speaker 2: That's why I was like, how where it all fits in?

1771
01:21:52,040 --> 01:21:54,960
Speaker 5: It's hard to know because we were staying our group

1772
01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:56,880
Speaker 5: was staying near like Mayfair, which is one of the

1773
01:21:56,960 --> 01:21:59,960
Speaker 5: like swanky downtown areas, and everywhere you went you saw

1774
01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:03,639
Speaker 5: people with Brown's gear or Vikings gear, like standing outside

1775
01:22:03,680 --> 01:22:05,840
Speaker 5: the pub and eating and drinking. So it's hard to

1776
01:22:05,840 --> 01:22:07,599
Speaker 5: know if that's just where all the fans were hanging

1777
01:22:07,600 --> 01:22:09,920
Speaker 5: out or if that's what the whole city felt like

1778
01:22:10,880 --> 01:22:11,200
Speaker 5: it was.

1779
01:22:11,320 --> 01:22:14,799
Speaker 3: What's wild is though even in like at Tottenham Hotsburg

1780
01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:18,000
Speaker 3: the stadium, there's it's just a neighborhood.

1781
01:22:18,040 --> 01:22:19,879
Speaker 4: Like that was bizarre.

1782
01:22:19,960 --> 01:22:22,680
Speaker 3: It's it's in and it is in a neighborhood.

1783
01:22:22,760 --> 01:22:26,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like there you can see had a very allegiate feel. Yeah,

1784
01:22:26,520 --> 01:22:29,120
Speaker 5: it almost felt like Camp Randall. Yeah, because literally you

1785
01:22:29,160 --> 01:22:31,360
Speaker 5: walk out of the stadium and right across the street

1786
01:22:31,439 --> 01:22:34,360
Speaker 5: is just like a little startments and stores and pubs.

1787
01:22:34,920 --> 01:22:36,880
Speaker 5: So that was a cool feel. But getting in there,

1788
01:22:36,920 --> 01:22:38,720
Speaker 5: my driver didn't know exactly where to like take me,

1789
01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:40,799
Speaker 5: and I was assuming they'd take you like, you know, underneath,

1790
01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:42,519
Speaker 5: and they're like the vating doc there's none of that.

1791
01:22:42,560 --> 01:22:44,160
Speaker 5: They like drop me off in the street and I'm

1792
01:22:44,160 --> 01:22:48,599
Speaker 5: like carrying my back. Yeah, so I don't I'm not

1793
01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:51,240
Speaker 5: sure how that stadium was built or if there was

1794
01:22:51,240 --> 01:22:53,200
Speaker 5: a stadium there that you know, it was just kind

1795
01:22:53,200 --> 01:22:55,719
Speaker 5: of shoehorn in the town. But then it's I imagine

1796
01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:58,160
Speaker 5: the tailgating field had to be kind of cool, yeah,

1797
01:22:58,160 --> 01:23:00,679
Speaker 5: to be tailgating right there and then in that little

1798
01:23:00,760 --> 01:23:02,799
Speaker 5: town and just walk across the street into the stadium.

1799
01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:04,559
Speaker 3: So our booth was on the side that if we

1800
01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:06,240
Speaker 3: were on the ninth floor where if you looked out

1801
01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:08,160
Speaker 3: the windows you could see down to the London skyline,

1802
01:23:08,160 --> 01:23:12,559
Speaker 3: which is actually really really cool to see that. And yeah,

1803
01:23:12,640 --> 01:23:14,800
Speaker 3: right behind it was just a street with pubs and

1804
01:23:14,840 --> 01:23:17,360
Speaker 3: stores and apartments and something that didn't even look like

1805
01:23:17,479 --> 01:23:20,400
Speaker 3: they were particularly nice like high rise old No, it wasn't.

1806
01:23:21,400 --> 01:23:24,840
Speaker 3: It was definitely. So they built this obviously with the

1807
01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:28,719
Speaker 3: NFL in mind, sixty two thousand, I think eight hundred

1808
01:23:28,720 --> 01:23:30,680
Speaker 3: and thirty five if I if I have that number right.

1809
01:23:30,680 --> 01:23:34,760
Speaker 3: But in that ballpark, it's beautiful. Their stadiums are also

1810
01:23:34,960 --> 01:23:37,160
Speaker 3: very different than a lot of kind of what I

1811
01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:39,800
Speaker 3: would call our march steams, which are closer to the

1812
01:23:39,800 --> 01:23:42,360
Speaker 3: field and kind of up This is kind of very

1813
01:23:42,400 --> 01:23:45,439
Speaker 3: like a low bowl, and on the sidelines in particular,

1814
01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:48,519
Speaker 3: they are not close to the field, No, at a

1815
01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:51,120
Speaker 3: long ways. Yeah, you're pretty far from the field.

1816
01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:52,960
Speaker 5: What did the players think of the turf because they

1817
01:23:53,400 --> 01:23:55,439
Speaker 5: had made fast Yeah, the NFL had made a big

1818
01:23:55,479 --> 01:23:58,960
Speaker 5: deal how they made the turf specifically for football, since

1819
01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:01,040
Speaker 5: you know a lot of the other turf's over in

1820
01:24:01,080 --> 01:24:03,920
Speaker 5: London are more for soccer. And even when they were

1821
01:24:03,920 --> 01:24:06,559
Speaker 5: in Munich, guys had a lot of problems with slipping

1822
01:24:06,720 --> 01:24:09,640
Speaker 5: because the fields, the grass fields, especially for soccer, they

1823
01:24:09,720 --> 01:24:12,360
Speaker 5: want the ball to kind of slide and they don't

1824
01:24:12,360 --> 01:24:14,400
Speaker 5: have the great grip that you need for big three

1825
01:24:14,479 --> 01:24:16,200
Speaker 5: hundred pound men to slam into each other.

1826
01:24:16,360 --> 01:24:18,840
Speaker 2: So it looked shorter. So that was field turf, yeah,

1827
01:24:19,080 --> 01:24:20,640
Speaker 2: or was it almost right?

1828
01:24:20,680 --> 01:24:21,400
Speaker 3: It was turf.

1829
01:24:21,479 --> 01:24:23,880
Speaker 2: It when they play, they play on grass, the turf

1830
01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:26,360
Speaker 2: sits on the grass, so Tottenham plays on grass, but

1831
01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:26,960
Speaker 2: then that's.

1832
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:28,240
Speaker 3: Underneath the field turf.

1833
01:24:29,160 --> 01:24:29,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, they brought it.

1834
01:24:29,880 --> 01:24:33,760
Speaker 15: They rolled it out actually Wednesday, because when we got

1835
01:24:33,760 --> 01:24:38,080
Speaker 15: there Thursday morning, like our ground screw people weren't at

1836
01:24:38,280 --> 01:24:40,800
Speaker 15: our training facility at the hotel yet because they were

1837
01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:43,599
Speaker 15: finishing up on rolling basins and it.

1838
01:24:43,520 --> 01:24:46,840
Speaker 3: Was like it seemed to me to be shorter blades

1839
01:24:46,880 --> 01:24:50,559
Speaker 3: of grass than ours and there were all these green

1840
01:24:51,280 --> 01:24:53,240
Speaker 3: pebbles and they said, actually, if you really plant it

1841
01:24:53,280 --> 01:24:55,800
Speaker 3: into it, you could get into the grass. Like you

1842
01:24:55,800 --> 01:24:58,599
Speaker 3: could you could get into the grass.

1843
01:24:58,680 --> 01:25:01,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's It almost reminded me of a blend between

1844
01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:04,559
Speaker 5: field turf and the old astro turf. It was that

1845
01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:08,160
Speaker 5: short of an artificial surface, so I imagine the skill

1846
01:25:08,160 --> 01:25:09,960
Speaker 5: guys felt like it was really fast and I liked it,

1847
01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:12,280
Speaker 5: but as alignment they probably didn't like that because it's

1848
01:25:12,320 --> 01:25:14,879
Speaker 5: a lot more wear and tear on your lower joints

1849
01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:17,439
Speaker 5: because it's just such a hard surface to play on.

1850
01:25:17,840 --> 01:25:20,160
Speaker 3: They say, what this is against from our boy tarv,

1851
01:25:20,439 --> 01:25:23,760
Speaker 3: But that it was it's actually it's fast if you're

1852
01:25:23,880 --> 01:25:25,920
Speaker 3: light and if not, though it has good grip because

1853
01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:27,800
Speaker 3: you actually can get down, as he said, into the

1854
01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:32,519
Speaker 3: grass layer like it's that. It was intredible and it

1855
01:25:32,560 --> 01:25:34,160
Speaker 3: was all instead of you know, our turf here has

1856
01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:37,000
Speaker 3: that those black little yeah pellets. Yeah, these were all

1857
01:25:37,040 --> 01:25:39,080
Speaker 3: like green, and there were so many more of them,

1858
01:25:39,120 --> 01:25:43,240
Speaker 3: it was almost like a million of them. Yeah, it

1859
01:25:43,280 --> 01:25:45,960
Speaker 3: was interesting. Listen, I'm not fast, but it felt like

1860
01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:46,680
Speaker 3: a fast turf for me.

1861
01:25:47,040 --> 01:25:49,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it looked it. I mean, it looked great.

1862
01:25:49,160 --> 01:25:53,439
Speaker 3: Beautiful. Stadium is beautiful, beautiful, I would say from where

1863
01:25:53,479 --> 01:25:55,760
Speaker 3: we were. I didn't love the video boards. So there's

1864
01:25:55,800 --> 01:25:57,000
Speaker 3: like four in the corners.

1865
01:25:57,320 --> 01:25:57,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, you couldn't.

1866
01:25:57,960 --> 01:25:59,680
Speaker 3: You couldn't see them because there's all the stanchions that

1867
01:25:59,720 --> 01:26:02,760
Speaker 3: hold all the lights are actually inside the stadium. Yeah,

1868
01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:04,719
Speaker 3: not on the top like shining in and they're actually

1869
01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:08,599
Speaker 3: hanging in the stadium and the and the speakers. So

1870
01:26:08,600 --> 01:26:10,320
Speaker 3: so that wasn't That part of it wasn't good. But

1871
01:26:10,360 --> 01:26:13,080
Speaker 3: everything was just nice. And the one thing I didn't

1872
01:26:13,120 --> 01:26:16,200
Speaker 3: realize is every door, like you can't walk anywhere. Like

1873
01:26:16,240 --> 01:26:18,000
Speaker 3: if we were there right now to walk through our

1874
01:26:18,040 --> 01:26:20,479
Speaker 3: hall here, there'd be a door on both sides. There's

1875
01:26:20,520 --> 01:26:23,160
Speaker 3: doors everywhere and there it says fire door, mustermand close

1876
01:26:23,280 --> 01:26:27,120
Speaker 3: every like at the hotel, oh, everywhere, everywhere, restaurants, anything,

1877
01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:28,600
Speaker 3: there's just doors everywhere.

1878
01:26:28,840 --> 01:26:29,720
Speaker 2: Huh.

1879
01:26:29,760 --> 01:26:32,360
Speaker 15: Some of them pull in, some you push, but there's

1880
01:26:32,360 --> 01:26:34,200
Speaker 15: always doors. That was not great, trying to deal with

1881
01:26:34,280 --> 01:26:35,160
Speaker 15: the equipment moving.

1882
01:26:35,280 --> 01:26:37,879
Speaker 2: Single word answer from all of you in our lifetime

1883
01:26:37,880 --> 01:26:42,000
Speaker 2: when we see an NFL team in Europe, no, no, no.

1884
01:26:43,760 --> 01:26:44,160
Speaker 6: There you go.

1885
01:26:44,600 --> 01:26:47,280
Speaker 3: I do think that right though. The eighteen game schedule

1886
01:26:47,320 --> 01:26:49,720
Speaker 3: will have thirty two international games. Everybody will play one

1887
01:26:49,760 --> 01:26:51,360
Speaker 3: international game and you'll have two by weeks. It'll be

1888
01:26:51,360 --> 01:26:52,120
Speaker 3: a twenty week season.

1889
01:26:52,360 --> 01:26:52,960
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1890
01:26:53,000 --> 01:26:57,240
Speaker 2: Interesting, All right? Coming up next are great clips. It's

1891
01:26:57,280 --> 01:26:58,880
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1901
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Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns. Great clips, it's going to be great. Time

1902
01:27:39,680 --> 01:27:41,920
Speaker 2: for the call of the game. Here's Andrew and z

1903
01:27:42,560 --> 01:27:44,240
Speaker 2: third and goal from the nine.

1904
01:27:44,360 --> 01:27:47,479
Speaker 3: Ford the back shotgun bond a loan to the white side,

1905
01:27:47,560 --> 01:27:49,880
Speaker 3: right fan in motions to the left. Here's the snap

1906
01:27:50,360 --> 01:27:51,080
Speaker 3: over the middle.

1907
01:27:51,400 --> 01:27:53,280
Speaker 6: The Chief has a touchdown.

1908
01:27:53,560 --> 01:27:59,000
Speaker 3: Dylan Gabriel to David Nudjoku and the Browns retake the lead.

1909
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:03,200
Speaker 3: First touchdown of the season for the Chief, the thirty

1910
01:28:03,280 --> 01:28:06,599
Speaker 3: first of his career, and for Dylan Gabriel his first start,

1911
01:28:06,680 --> 01:28:09,920
Speaker 3: his first multiple touchdown game three on the season. Now

1912
01:28:10,000 --> 01:28:13,640
Speaker 3: leads the Browns in passing touchdowns. The pocket poise to

1913
01:28:13,720 --> 01:28:16,799
Speaker 3: go through your progressions, he gets a little inside release.

1914
01:28:17,040 --> 01:28:19,920
Speaker 3: Chief beats Byron Murphy. If you are on the other side,

1915
01:28:19,960 --> 01:28:22,280
Speaker 3: you got your Pro Bowl corner on their tight end. Well,

1916
01:28:22,320 --> 01:28:25,000
Speaker 3: it's Pro Bowl on Pro Bowl and the Djoku into

1917
01:28:25,040 --> 01:28:27,400
Speaker 3: the end zone and the Browns are celebrating.

1918
01:28:27,800 --> 01:28:30,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it really is a shame that you don't

1919
01:28:30,439 --> 01:28:34,000
Speaker 2: get the finish to this because this is the way

1920
01:28:34,040 --> 01:28:36,559
Speaker 2: that they built this thing to win is this way,

1921
01:28:36,760 --> 01:28:38,200
Speaker 2: and and the kid played pretty well.

1922
01:28:38,280 --> 01:28:39,840
Speaker 3: That's why it's disheartening that you didn't win.

1923
01:28:39,960 --> 01:28:43,120
Speaker 2: It is like it sucks, yeah, because it's he played

1924
01:28:43,120 --> 01:28:43,639
Speaker 2: pretty well.

1925
01:28:43,960 --> 01:28:45,920
Speaker 3: He did, and he's got good poise, of course, and

1926
01:28:45,960 --> 01:28:47,920
Speaker 3: it would be coming out of when he say, okay,

1927
01:28:48,000 --> 01:28:50,040
Speaker 3: he managed it. He did exactly what they asked. We

1928
01:28:50,040 --> 01:28:51,680
Speaker 3: want to see him get the ball down the field more.

1929
01:28:51,720 --> 01:28:53,519
Speaker 3: But that's some little come in the coming weeks and

1930
01:28:53,720 --> 01:28:55,840
Speaker 3: you know, maybe a little more freedom to recognize some

1931
01:28:56,280 --> 01:28:58,200
Speaker 3: things the defense are doing, or you know, to be

1932
01:28:58,200 --> 01:28:59,800
Speaker 3: able to have that audible or be able to check

1933
01:28:59,800 --> 01:29:02,720
Speaker 3: and get yourself into the the right play. But yeah,

1934
01:29:02,840 --> 01:29:04,320
Speaker 3: he did great. And in the red zone that's where

1935
01:29:04,320 --> 01:29:06,400
Speaker 3: it's tough. And and that play for him to go

1936
01:29:06,479 --> 01:29:08,840
Speaker 3: boom boom boom, come back to the joku and throw

1937
01:29:08,840 --> 01:29:10,360
Speaker 3: it on a rope and get it right to where

1938
01:29:10,360 --> 01:29:14,000
Speaker 3: it needed to be was very impressive, very impressive. Don

1939
01:29:14,080 --> 01:29:16,519
Speaker 3: Gabriel was not the reason that the Browns lost, No,

1940
01:29:17,120 --> 01:29:17,680
Speaker 3: far from it.

1941
01:29:17,760 --> 01:29:21,880
Speaker 2: No, No, he played. He played very very well. All right,

1942
01:29:21,920 --> 01:29:23,880
Speaker 2: what do we got? We got to score? Give we do?

1943
01:29:24,160 --> 01:29:27,720
Speaker 15: The Kansas City Chiefs are in the armpit of America

1944
01:29:28,400 --> 01:29:33,280
Speaker 15: to battle the Jacksonville jag Gabs r Jazz?

1945
01:29:33,640 --> 01:29:36,599
Speaker 2: What is the where's that come from? Your hatred of Jacksonville?

1946
01:29:36,640 --> 01:29:40,680
Speaker 3: Are hanging out the downtown. Jacksonville's tough. Now when we

1947
01:29:40,720 --> 01:29:44,200
Speaker 3: went last time, we stayed at Sagress. That that was

1948
01:29:44,280 --> 01:29:46,240
Speaker 3: quite a right, Yeah, that was quite Yeah.

1949
01:29:46,120 --> 01:29:46,479
Speaker 6: It was great.

1950
01:29:46,520 --> 01:29:49,559
Speaker 15: We got there and it immediately started raining non stop

1951
01:29:49,720 --> 01:29:52,679
Speaker 15: until the game got on the plane. Sun came back

1952
01:29:52,680 --> 01:29:53,400
Speaker 15: out perfect.

1953
01:29:53,439 --> 01:29:54,200
Speaker 2: This one's down there.

1954
01:29:54,200 --> 01:29:57,400
Speaker 3: Hey, we won that Jackson Friday.

1955
01:29:58,800 --> 01:30:00,679
Speaker 6: You're not wrong about that one.

1956
01:30:00,720 --> 01:30:02,519
Speaker 2: Maybe we'll just take tears together.

1957
01:30:02,800 --> 01:30:07,680
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, oh yeah, A win's a win.

1958
01:30:08,439 --> 01:30:13,040
Speaker 15: Jags hosting the Kansas City Chiefs in Monday Night Football,

1959
01:30:13,200 --> 01:30:16,200
Speaker 15: the round out Week five in the National Football League.

1960
01:30:16,280 --> 01:30:18,200
Speaker 6: Zagora.

1961
01:30:18,560 --> 01:30:20,840
Speaker 3: I do like the Jags, but I also think they're

1962
01:30:20,840 --> 01:30:22,760
Speaker 3: a little bit of fraudsters, and I think Kansas City

1963
01:30:22,840 --> 01:30:25,920
Speaker 3: is going to go out there and Monday Night another statement.

1964
01:30:26,040 --> 01:30:27,840
Speaker 3: Last time they were in this position, which was a

1965
01:30:27,840 --> 01:30:30,240
Speaker 3: week ago, they made a very definitive statement. I think

1966
01:30:30,240 --> 01:30:34,519
Speaker 3: they do that again. I like the Chiefs bigly thirty

1967
01:30:34,560 --> 01:30:36,000
Speaker 3: one thirteen.

1968
01:30:37,040 --> 01:30:38,080
Speaker 6: Yeah I am.

1969
01:30:38,320 --> 01:30:40,080
Speaker 2: I'm six and seven on the week, so I need

1970
01:30:40,080 --> 01:30:41,800
Speaker 2: this one. I'm pretty sure I'm six and seven, so

1971
01:30:41,880 --> 01:30:45,120
Speaker 2: I needed to get back to even Stephen. So when

1972
01:30:45,160 --> 01:30:48,720
Speaker 2: you're in desperate times, bet on Wizards. So I'll take one.

1973
01:30:48,840 --> 01:30:52,440
Speaker 2: Five in Kansas City handling their business relatively bigly off.

1974
01:30:52,600 --> 01:30:54,160
Speaker 5: Well, I'm gonna push in the other direction. I got

1975
01:30:54,200 --> 01:30:59,000
Speaker 5: oh baby Jaguars twenty four, Chiefs twenty. I think defense. Yes,

1976
01:30:59,200 --> 01:31:02,240
Speaker 5: I think they're gonna get a few turnovers. Yeah, yeah,

1977
01:31:02,280 --> 01:31:05,280
Speaker 5: They're gonna force a few turnovers. The Chiefs, you know,

1978
01:31:05,360 --> 01:31:07,400
Speaker 5: they're a little bit shorthanded, and I think they're gonna

1979
01:31:07,400 --> 01:31:10,000
Speaker 5: have a hard time keeping pace with the Jaguars.

1980
01:31:10,000 --> 01:31:13,400
Speaker 4: So don't be afraid to remind me tomorrow morning. Who

1981
01:31:13,439 --> 01:31:16,080
Speaker 4: was right here? If the Jaguars, oh, I'll.

1982
01:31:15,920 --> 01:31:19,000
Speaker 2: Give you a foolish you can join tomorrow three if

1983
01:31:19,000 --> 01:31:21,840
Speaker 2: they wanted to discuss. By the way, quick footnote, I

1984
01:31:21,880 --> 01:31:25,639
Speaker 2: did meet Big g Man, Papa g Man. Oh really

1985
01:31:25,680 --> 01:31:30,680
Speaker 2: Friday night, Well Lodsworth, well Hudson. Will we can discuss tomorrow? Yeah?

1986
01:31:30,720 --> 01:31:32,760
Speaker 2: We We had a very big meeting of the minds there.

1987
01:31:32,960 --> 01:31:35,080
Speaker 2: Half great to see you and to see you guys always.

1988
01:31:35,360 --> 01:31:37,559
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1990
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1991
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1992
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