1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:20,080 Speaker 1: Yea, Hey, everybody, welcome to Good Morning Football. No more 2 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:23,479 Speaker 1: Thursday night action, but we've got playoff invocations. One final 3 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: week of action until the postseason. Our shows presented to you, 4 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: but El Trapper, Beef Jurkey. We're live in New Orchis, 5 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: January sixth. Already, my name's Kay, Adam Skyle Brand, Peter Schrager, 6 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: and our Hall of Fame wide receiver Chris Carter, who 7 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 1: is sweating a busy day. You gotta go. We go 8 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: on homework action pack. Talk to me, what are you 9 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: got going on? I got a lot of video, a 10 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: lot of highlight. Went back last night and watched the 11 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: whole ninety eighth season. Randy Moss wife every catch huh, 12 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: had already watched the Bengals in Chase. So now I'm 13 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: making a comparison between these two, and trust me, it's 14 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: a hot seat to be on. To back up the 15 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: statement I said yesterday that Jamar is the best rookie 16 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: wide receiver that I have seen. Yes, you heard it. 17 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: I called him that. I know. Yeah, Mark, it's a 18 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: beautiful trademarked it and you nailed it, and you're gonna 19 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:06,199 Speaker 1: back it up to the end to build to break 20 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: it down and buy the thinnest of margins. I'll go 21 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 1: to show you, guys why I came to that. That's 22 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:13,960 Speaker 1: Rock not the only wide receiver we're talking about. We 23 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: got a Cooper Cut breakdown. We've got let's see what 24 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 1: do we have. We've got Chris Collinsworth on the program. 25 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: Jan Garcia will be Dion Brown super Bowl MVP. Excited 26 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: to have him, of course, and his time now for 27 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 1: the lead. All right, entering Week eighteen, neiks rags like 28 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: the nut little flip. The regular season's wrapping up. Everyone's 29 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: talking MVP veterans. Chicago sports writer an MVP voter Hub 30 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: Arkish had some strong words on why he would not 31 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: be voting for Aaron Rodgers next week. Take a listen 32 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: to his reasoning and will discuss, and we've got Rogers 33 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: response to I've been pretty consistent about that all year. Um, 34 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: I don't think you can be the biggest jerk in 35 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: the league and punish your team and your organization, your 36 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: fan base the way he did and be the most 37 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: valuable player. Has he been the most valuable on the field. Yeah, 38 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: you could make that argument, but I don't think he 39 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 1: is clearly that much more valuable than than Jonathan Taylor 40 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: or Cooper Cup or maybe even Tom Brady. And and 41 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: so from where I sit, the rest of it is 42 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: why he's not going to be my choice. Do I 43 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: think he's gonna win it? Probably? You know a lot 44 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,399 Speaker 1: of the voters don't. Don't approach it the same way 45 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 1: that I do. Others do who I've spoken to, I 46 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 1: think he's a bomb. I think he's an absolute bomb. 47 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 1: You don't know me. I don't know who he is. 48 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: No one knew who he was, probably until yesterday's comments. 49 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: But I mean, and I listen to the comments, but 50 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: to say he has mind made up in the summertime, 51 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 1: in the off season, that you know I had zero 52 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: chance and went in to Vpete, my opinion should exclude 53 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: you know, future future votes. Um, you know, his problem 54 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 1: isn't with me being a bad guy or the biggest 55 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: jerk in the league. Know me. You know he doesn't 56 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: know any about me. I mean, I've never met him 57 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: on there at lunch with him, I've never had an 58 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: interview with him. His problem is I'm not vaccinated, you know, 59 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 1: So if he wants to go on a crusade and 60 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: collude and come up with an extra letter to put 61 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 1: on the award just for this season and make it 62 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: the most valuable vaccinated player. Then he should do that. 63 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 1: But he's a bomb the MVP. Potentially, he's a bumb 64 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: You don't hear that much anymore. In twenty twenty two, 65 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, the reigning MVP, bringing it back now, I 66 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: will say arkish apologize yesterday, not for the way he's 67 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: voting or his thoughts. He apologized for disclosing his voting preference, 68 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: which is not allowed as a voter of the MVP, 69 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: and for some of the quote childish things he said 70 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: about the Packers quarterback. Let's get reactions here at the table. 71 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: I can feel the heats. It's palpable. Carter, what do 72 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: you got? Well? This to me, this hits right at home, 73 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: because I'll take you back twenty thirteen. At that time, 74 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: for those who don't know, I was second in catches 75 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: in NFL history, second in touchdowns eleven catches, one hundred 76 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 1: and thirty touchdowns, and I come up for the Pro 77 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 1: Football Hall of Fame, And at that point I never 78 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 1: really thought that much about it. How much these voters 79 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: held my future in their hands, and they decided that 80 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: those numbers were not good enough for me to be 81 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: the first ballot Hall of Famer. And then the thing 82 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: that really got me upset was because of my childish 83 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: reaction and being upset about it, they began to spread 84 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: that blasphem in the room that for the next five 85 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 1: years I didn't even get close. So I didn't even 86 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 1: go on the field ever again. But that first time 87 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: getting in, that's when I was the closest to getting in. 88 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: And then and they started talking amongst each other. So 89 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 1: I understand what Aaron is going through right now. And 90 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 1: players are judged by their numbers, by their wins, and 91 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 1: by the accolades that they get. And for me, at 92 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:16,359 Speaker 1: that time in two and thirteen, I think that I 93 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: had about fourteen years of sobriety. I had turned my 94 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 1: life around, I had been to Walter Payton Man of 95 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 1: the Year, I had helped so many other players try 96 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: to have a productive career. And for these people to 97 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: somehow come up with ideas that, oh, he'll get in 98 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 1: next year, that was the worst excuse ever. So I 99 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 1: feel for Aaron and people should be able to remove 100 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 1: their biases before they vote on these things. Because I'm 101 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: gonna tell you something. I've been in a lot of buildings. 102 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 1: There's jerks in every building, and I can give you 103 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: a list of journalists that are jerks. I've been doing 104 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 1: this a minute. There's a bunch of them that are jerks. 105 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: And he was wrong about Aaron Rodgers. There are a 106 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 1: lot of jerks in the NFL. He's not the biggest one. 107 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 1: What happened to he was an embarrassment. What happened to 108 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 1: Tarlanes was an embarrassment. I think this is an embarrassment. 109 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: And this is not about the hub Man, this guy 110 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: that I know a lot of people haven't heard of. 111 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: He's having a week. It's it's not about not about 112 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: the Hub. He became the internet's most second popular hub 113 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: this week. But it's about the other people. Because Hub's 114 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: the only guy reckless enough to just say it. I 115 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: would bet my life that there are a lot of 116 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 1: other voters who are thinking it, and a lot of 117 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: other voters are going to vote that way. Now, after 118 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,239 Speaker 1: this came out, a lot of the voters who guys 119 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,799 Speaker 1: we know and respect, and they've absolutely said this is embarrassment. 120 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 1: Strip him of his vote. This is not what it's about. 121 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: There's a lot of them out there, and I mean 122 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 1: some big fish who haven't said squat, who haven't tweeted squat, 123 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: who are just silent, and I just nobody crusades like 124 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 1: a sportswriter with a vote. Nobody. And there is this 125 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 1: inflated self importance. You know what I think is, I've 126 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: got the ball. Now, it's my ball. I'm the star. No, 127 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: I'm the quarterback. I'm gonna throw a touchdown. And it's 128 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: especially now, this is a different era and this just 129 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: demands a different perspective. It's not this is not a 130 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 1: Nobel Prizer handing on. This an award for a man 131 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: throwing a football. Whoever throws the ball into the part 132 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: of the field with the paint on it, vote for him. 133 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: But I'm telling you, and I'll take this step further. 134 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: We're gonna see how this weekend goes. And I think 135 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: Brady's gonna play. I think Brady's gonna win the MVP. Really, yes, 136 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: I do. And I think it's gonna have a lot 137 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: to do with this. And I think there are a 138 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: lot of people laying in wait who are not going 139 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: to vote for Rodgers. And listen, PFF came out with 140 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: the whole thing where they think Brady should win it 141 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: based on football that has nothing to do with it. 142 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: There is a whole thing with Brady, And if Brady 143 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: goes three touchdowns this weekend, I think we're gonna be 144 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: there in NFL owners and I think it's gonna be 145 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 1: Brady winning the MVP. And I think a large part 146 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: of it is going to be crusading sports writers don't 147 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: want to vote for Rogers. Yeah, I think this is 148 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: the most hotly contested MVP vote. Without that aspect of it, 149 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: I think you can make the case for Brady. I 150 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: think you can make the case for Cooper Cup. Cooper 151 00:07:57,720 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: Cup is doing things as a wide receiver that no 152 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: one in the history the game is done. We said 153 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: it last week nineteen ninety five. Jerry Rice's season is, dude, 154 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: is one of the greatest of all time. If you 155 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: look at just a sixteen game basis, and I know 156 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: it's a different era and how the defense was played, 157 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: what Cooper Cup is doing, he's right up there. So 158 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: let's just put it from the football standpoint there. Now, 159 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: are we going to invalidate a Cooper Cup MVP or 160 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: invalidate a Tom Brady MVP and immediately say, oh, it's 161 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: because Rogers wasn't back. I would just hope that if 162 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: Rogers doesn't win, that this thing doesn't have an asterisk 163 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: on it because of what Hub said and the reaction afterwards. 164 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 1: And I would hope that the voters the forty nine 165 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: others and this is like the reverse reverse psychology vote 166 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: for like if I was voting and I'm not, I'm 167 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: not an AP voter, and the AP gives these to 168 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 1: fifty different voters, and they put it in they going 169 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: on for one player now like you rank them in 170 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: a ballot, and the whole thing right for one player. 171 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:52,559 Speaker 1: And that's why Russell Wilson's never gotten a vote because 172 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: he's never been the number one guy. I would hope 173 00:08:56,160 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: that they don't feel bullied, not but by the response 174 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 1: that Hub got by saying he wasn't voting for Rogers. Yeah, 175 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 1: like reverse psychologue. I hope that they don't say, we 176 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: don't want to lose our vote as an MVP and 177 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:14,599 Speaker 1: community with the integrity of it, So let's vote for 178 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:16,319 Speaker 1: Rogers over Rogers and give them what they want. And 179 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 1: social media, we're sorry, and Mike Florio and Field Yates 180 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: and all of you who made tweets about how it's 181 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: ridiculous to comments stories. We're sorry, no vote for who 182 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: you think should be MVP, and that's it. And if 183 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: it's anonymous, great, if you want to come out with it, great, 184 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: But if you think Cooper Cup and Tom Brady's the MVP, 185 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: vote for Cup, Tom Bradyer and Cooper Cup. I don't 186 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: want this to be the reason why Rogers wins it 187 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: because it's a backlash to Hubbs comments in week seventeen. 188 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: Sorry to our producers, We're gonna go over on this. 189 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 1: Crisco one of the little small things too, and people 190 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,839 Speaker 1: don't know this. Um. I wasn't close to my father. 191 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: I was raised by a mom. She raised seven kids 192 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: before the age of twenty tive in twenty nineteen when 193 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: I got in Hall of Fame. My dad had Alzheimer's 194 00:09:56,920 --> 00:10:00,199 Speaker 1: and dementia. When he was at the nursing home. Every 195 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: day he used to wake up and ask the people, 196 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: am I going to the Hall of Fame to see 197 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: my son? And he's be like, no, mister Carter. And 198 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: ultimately when I do go to Ken he was there. 199 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 1: He didn't know I was there, but he had a 200 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame hat on when he went back to 201 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: the nursing home. And that's all every day just check 202 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: them see in his hat, And every day asked the people, 203 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: am I going to see my son at the Hall 204 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: of Fame? So you give a chance to give people 205 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: the roses while they're alive, give them to him. My 206 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 1: father was not a great man in my life by 207 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 1: no measure, but that honor he deserved too. And so 208 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: you hold these things back from people. There's other stories 209 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: behind these people that helped them get there. We'll leave 210 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 1: it there at GMFB with your thoughts will bring an 211 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: Ian rapping for it now. Maybe we'll hit this story 212 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: a little bit later with more thoughts and different angles. 213 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,439 Speaker 1: Criteria for the MVP. I'd love that. I wouldn't looked 214 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: on the website show because I couldn't find it. You 215 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: go and you you're a judge for a chili cook off. 216 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: It says consistency flavor ingredients. What I don't really have that, 217 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 1: I mean, voters. That's weird, just intentionally that way. I 218 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:03,719 Speaker 1: do you think there's a difference between Hall of Fame 219 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:05,959 Speaker 1: and the criteria for that and MVP. Maybe we'll dig 220 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 1: into it later on in the show. I would just 221 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 1: ask people out there. Did it affect his team any 222 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 1: of the things. The craziest thing is that Arcus said 223 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: that he had his mind made up before the season started. 224 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: That was a crazy admission. Ian, Thank you so much 225 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: for being here. The Niners looking to secure a playoff spot, 226 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: will they have Jimmy Garoppolo. On Sunday, Derrick Henry is 227 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:29,199 Speaker 1: back at practice. What is the latest? First of all, 228 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: thank you guys for that discussion. So much of this process, 229 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: it seems, needs to be reviewed or at least looked 230 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: at extremely closely. You don't hear a lot of discussions 231 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,319 Speaker 1: like that, so thank you. As far as the Jimmy 232 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: Garoppolo situation, another topic that I think needs some discussing. 233 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo did actually practice finally for the San Francisco 234 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: forty nine ers on Wednesday's first practice in a couple 235 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 1: of weeks. Remember, he's dealing with a torn ligament in 236 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: his thumb and a bone chip. So Garoppolo was able 237 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: to throw. That's good, But his reaction to having to 238 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 1: throw was not so great. He said it hurts like bleep, 239 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 1: and he described throwing as basically having the wedding of 240 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: his hand torn off with each throw. It is still possible. 241 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: I guess that he plays on Sunday, but that sounds 242 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: extremely painful. We'll see if he has any residual effects today. 243 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:21,679 Speaker 1: Opposite end of the spectrum for Derrick Henry. Finally, King Henry, 244 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: one of the best running backs the NFL who has 245 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:26,839 Speaker 1: missed two months of the season after breaking a bone 246 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: in his foot and having surgery. He was out of practice. 247 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 1: That is not file footage. That is actual footage of 248 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry at practice. A significant step. He was officially 249 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: designated to return for the Tennessee Titans. May not end 250 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:42,199 Speaker 1: up playing this Sunday. Seems a little quick, but by 251 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: the time he gets on the field, whether or not 252 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: they have a bye, either be ten weeks or eleven 253 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: weeks from surgery, he will be at roll strength and 254 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: ready to go for the playoffs. Appreciate you, Ian, talk 255 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: to you in a bit. We've got loft to get to. 256 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 1: Chris Collinsworth is on the show. We're Talpa or Jamar. 257 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 1: Chris Carter calls, Yeah, of course the Rams and Niners. 258 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 1: They're facing office. You can big time NFC West Showdown 259 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 1: division up for grabs. We discuss what the Niners need 260 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: to do to win the game and that playoff spot. Next. 261 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: I'm major in football now. The NFL season finale is here, 262 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 1: and we'll get you ready with a special edition of 263 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:22,559 Speaker 1: NFL Game Day Morning Saturday at three pm Eastern Saturday. 264 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 1: It's a pair of rivalry games. Are the Chiefs heading 265 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: to Denver and the Cowboys in Philly. Burt Warner sits 266 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:32,079 Speaker 1: down with Eagles quarterback Jail and hurts to find out 267 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 1: his mindset, heading it to the final tune up before 268 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: the playoffs. Then on Sunday, have what maybe Big Ben's 269 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: last NFL game. We'll look back on the career of 270 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: the future Hall of Famer and break down what he 271 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 1: needs to do to beat Baltimore. All that and more 272 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: on NFL Game Day Morning, Saturday at three pm and 273 00:13:55,120 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 1: Sunday at nine am Eastern. Hey, Kylie, hungry, it's starving. 274 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: Let's do it. Time for a refresh presented by Subway. 275 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: Let's take a look at the NFC playoff picture. Grab 276 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:12,559 Speaker 1: your sonships as your side, and let's do it. The 277 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 1: Packers sitting at the top with their clinched number one 278 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: spot clearly Aaron Rodgers affective his team in a great way. 279 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 1: They have a great record this season. Wow, one game 280 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: to go. The Rams, Cardinals, and Eagles clinched the playoffs, 281 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: but not their divisions, while the Bucks and Cowboys won 282 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: their division and a postseason at birth. The Niners, they're 283 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 1: sitting at that six. They get in if they can 284 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: take down the number two Rams this weekend. So for 285 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: right now, let's get a update from our very own 286 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: Steve Weish on the upcoming NFC West showdown between Niners Rams. Okay, 287 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: when it comes down to this Rams Niners showdown, it 288 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: looks like a case of who will be in and 289 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: who might be in. For who will be in, it 290 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: looks like Rams running back Cam Acres, who ruptured his 291 00:14:57,040 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: achilles this summer, is going to play. He practiced fully 292 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: on Wednesday, and head coach Sean McVeigh said unless Acres 293 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: has a setback, he will be making an appearance, and 294 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: it doesn't sound like it's going to be a cameo. 295 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: He'll be in some sort of rotation with Sony Michelle, 296 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: who's been the Rams Belle Kyle Rusher especially over the 297 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: past five games. As for Niners quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo, who 298 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: injured his thumb. He said that thumbs still hurt a 299 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: day after throwing, so there's a lot of question mark 300 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: as to whether it be Garoppolo or Trey Lance starting. 301 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: And head coach Kyle Shanahan said he's going to keep 302 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: that intrigue going as he's not going to reveal who 303 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: is starting quarterback. Is going to be at least to 304 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: the media until the last minute. Okay, I appreciate you. 305 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 1: Why San Francisco and control of their own playoff destiny, 306 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: as we know, what do the Niners need to do 307 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: to beat these Rams and get into the playoffs? And Kyle, 308 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 1: how do they do it? Quarterback? Questions about they do, 309 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 1: but I'm talking about that. Never mind their quarterback, the 310 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: Rams quarterback matche Steffer's gonna throw you one when he 311 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: does catch it and running for a touchdown. This is 312 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 1: not a new thing. This has happened four times this year, 313 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: four times for a veteran quarterback. And I guess I 314 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: have to do it every week and I just keep 315 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: kicking Matt Stafford in the shins. I don't take pleasure 316 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: in it. They picked him twice. This is not a 317 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: new thing. Four times this year, just for sacred comparison, 318 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is on three and sixteen years. But we 319 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: don't need to get in Rogers. We talked about him 320 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: last segment. He's thrown for the segment. He will do it, 321 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: and then he makes the jokes after this game about 322 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: oh man, I made it really easy on them, which 323 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: I appreciate, but I would appreciate it more if he didn't. 324 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: He will throw you one, don't drop it, catch it 325 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: and return it for a touchdown and you win the game. 326 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: It's simple. He does it almost every week, no matter 327 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: who's on the field, no matter who's throwing the ball. 328 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: The forty nine ers absolutely own the Rams five straight 329 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 1: games against Division rids. It's not like this has been 330 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: some basement team. The Rams have won two divisions and 331 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 1: yet they lose every time to the forty nine ers. 332 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: And yet they were given a bit of a gift 333 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: from the from the from the health gods, if you will, 334 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: and that all the defensive backs from the Niners are 335 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: out this week. They can't practice. They're all out with 336 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 1: COVID on the protocol and that is like hello, like 337 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: so they're working on Zoom this week. They might all 338 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: be activated Sunday and be great, but I don't care 339 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 1: if you don't practice all week, and it's not just 340 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 1: one of you, it's the entire defensive backfield. Stafford, you 341 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 1: better have a day's at the very least. These guys 342 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: are gonna be winded and they won't have the reps. So, Stafford, 343 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: if you can't get a win over a defensive backfield 344 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 1: that has been out with five defensive backs all week, 345 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: I don't know if you're ever gonna get a win 346 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 1: over this team. That's how it comes down to. They 347 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 1: have to win this one. Yeah, Stafford's got to play well. 348 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 1: Into your point. If he's gonna throw one forty nine ers, 349 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:28,360 Speaker 1: he's gonna throw him in the first three quarters because 350 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: he hadn't thrown any interceptions in the fourth quarters and 351 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: the first three you better get one. Try to take 352 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:35,360 Speaker 1: it the other way a lot like Brett Farve used 353 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 1: to do. But I believe there will be substantial pressure 354 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: on the passing game of the forty nine ers. Jimmy 355 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 1: Garoppolo does not have a huge arm. That's when he's help. 356 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: He does not have a huge arm, all right, He's 357 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 1: got small hands and now recovering from an injury to 358 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 1: the hand, I think Trey Lance is going to be 359 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:55,880 Speaker 1: the guy we're gonna have to depend on. I don't 360 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: see them throwing the ball with Garoppolo having significant pain 361 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 1: after throwing. He doesn't have a big time arm. So 362 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: to me, how did they get the two hundred yards 363 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 1: passing with the rookie? That's going to be hard to do. 364 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:09,880 Speaker 1: They're gonna run the ball, run the ball. There's gonna 365 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: be eight guys in the box, so they're gonna have 366 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: to build throw the ball down the field, and that 367 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 1: concerns take the pressure off Garoppolo or Trailings by running 368 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: the ball. It's what they do really well. And then 369 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: what you do when you do that is have time 370 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: of possession. In Rams losses, they have the second worst 371 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: time of possession. They don't hold the ball, Kyle. So 372 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: to your point, what happens is like the first game 373 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 1: the Niners had an eleven minute drive. They give it 374 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 1: to Stafford and he coughs it up and he throws 375 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: it because he has this pressure thing that happens. We've 376 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 1: seen it over and over through his career, not just 377 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 1: with the Rams. You get him in the situation where 378 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 1: he's like, I gotta get something done. I gotta make magic, 379 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: and you can't make magic when that happens. So if 380 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: they can get the run game going early, and they 381 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 1: probably will because it's their bread and butter, I think 382 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: the Rams might be in trouble. All Right, more good 383 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: running football on the way. I'm gonna tell you guys something. 384 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: We've had some outstanding rookie receivers. This is the best 385 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: rookie wide receiver that I have seen. I was on 386 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: the field when that other guy, big fella. This is 387 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: a statement, Kamoss. Yeah, when he played, we had more 388 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: help around him. Randy was a little more limited as 389 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: far as what he could do and what he understood. 390 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:16,880 Speaker 1: Now later on, Randy was a football genius. But Jamar, 391 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: that's the best rookie season I've seen, and I was 392 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 1: there for Justin Jefferson last year. It's the best rookie 393 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: wide receiver totally route running, finishing plays, playing around the 394 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: offense that I've ever seen. He was there for Justin Jefferson. 395 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:34,919 Speaker 1: He played with Randy Molse who saw that one to 396 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: a bold statement from Chris Carter yesterday, but not completely unfounded. Chris, 397 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 1: I'm sure you heard for a minute from Twitter this one. 398 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: You're smiling over there, Please explain you're thinking the floor 399 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:49,640 Speaker 1: is yours. Well, this is the thing you did hear 400 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: me yesterday, and it's a lot to high school coaches 401 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:58,199 Speaker 1: and college coaches. The wide receivers coming into the National 402 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:03,199 Speaker 1: Football League, they're better than ever and j mar and 403 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson are a credit to that. Now, I said 404 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 1: that he was the best rookie receiver that I've seen, 405 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: and I'm so high on him. But I want to 406 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: take a look at some of the numbers. Last night, 407 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: I went over every catch both of these guys have 408 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 1: made in the rookie season. So look at the top 409 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 1: of it, it's fairly simple. Thirteen fourteen, seventeen touchdowns thirteen 410 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 1: very very similar. But Randy had more help, all right, 411 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 1: if you look at it. We had three Pro Bowl 412 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:35,120 Speaker 1: offensive linemen. We could run the ball at will against anyone, 413 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: led by Hall of Famer Randall McDaniel, myself, the quarterback 414 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 1: Randall Cunningham, who was All Pro that year, So we 415 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 1: didn't need Randy to be great that often. And in 416 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,120 Speaker 1: going back looking at the taste, one of the things 417 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,919 Speaker 1: that I saw too was I had forgotten Randy had 418 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:54,199 Speaker 1: injured his ankle playing basketball before the season. He had 419 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: a high ankle spring the whole season, so could have 420 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,679 Speaker 1: Randy Moss could have had potentially twenty touchdowns as a 421 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: rook Yes, he could have, but he was injured and 422 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,360 Speaker 1: you could see in the tape that he was laboring. Now, 423 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: let's take a look at some of the things besides 424 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: the numbers that make receivers great, okay, being speed catching ability. 425 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 1: Let's take a look at mass overall explosion. All right, 426 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 1: Randy Moss as a rookie. This is a legendary Thanksgiving game. 427 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: Randall Cunningham. We have a corner route by myself. He 428 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 1: has the stop on the outside. They try to blitz us. 429 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,120 Speaker 1: We go hot to Mass. He makes the first guy 430 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 1: miss and then I had never seen anyone do this 431 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: in the NFL game. He face froze this guy he 432 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 1: was running next to him, looked at him. Now you 433 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 1: can watch myself. I'm getting ready get open on the corner. 434 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,880 Speaker 1: They're blitzing us. So Cunningham didn't have time. I take 435 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 1: a shot at this corner's knee right here, looked at 436 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 1: and then explode it down the sideline. This is some 437 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 1: of the rare stuff that we had ever seen. I 438 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 1: listened to footies last night, John Madden and Pat smer 439 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:56,160 Speaker 1: All commentating on it. John Madden's like, this kid's gonna 440 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 1: be fun to watch. He's amazing and he was electric 441 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 1: on the feed. Having myself in the slot, you see 442 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 1: Randy had single coverage on the outside. Let's go to 443 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: j Mark. Let's see him early in his rookie season. 444 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 1: Let's see what type of play that we can break 445 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 1: down for him. We like this against Baltimore short route. 446 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: It's hard to tell how fast the player is until 447 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,880 Speaker 1: the player stops and then gets back going. We knew 448 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: he was fast, but in this play against Baltimore, week 449 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:29,400 Speaker 1: number seven, eighty two yard touchdown, you could see the stopping, 450 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 1: the toughness in traffic, and then the ability to be 451 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:36,400 Speaker 1: able to explode. It's hard. I don't care who you are. 452 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 1: If you're not explosive or you don't have short area quickness, 453 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:41,919 Speaker 1: it's hard to be great at the wide receiver position. 454 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 1: And both of these young receivers had both of them. Now, 455 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:50,479 Speaker 1: let's take a look at some speed, all right, explosion speed. 456 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 1: Let's take a look at Randy Moss. Okay, speed hand combination. 457 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,400 Speaker 1: Randy Moss is a Green Bay game on Monday Night, 458 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: another legendary game. Randy blows past the defender, but he 459 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:06,120 Speaker 1: was so fast he comes back under Tyrone whims. Yeah, 460 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 1: I said it, Tyrone. I still don't like that, dude, right, 461 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: I still don't like it. Number thirty seven, he had 462 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: a little gold grill. I told him during the game, 463 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna snatch your gold grill outs your mouth. Yeah, Moss, 464 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 1: the underthrow comes back over top of with his blazing speed, 465 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: but he shows great hands. Typically the fastest guys we've 466 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: ever seen, the hands part doesn't come with the blazing speed. 467 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 1: Moss had that in Spade. Let's go to Jamarn. Let's 468 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 1: get another look at it. Cunningham on the strongest arms 469 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 1: ever under throws the big fella. Moss comes up with it. 470 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: Let's go Jmar Last week, he gets outside outside release, 471 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: he stacks the cornerback, gets the corner right next to him. 472 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,640 Speaker 1: He doesn't know if Joe Burrows is going to lead 473 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 1: him to the back pylon or he's gonna throw a 474 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 1: back shoulder fade. We know how fast he is, but 475 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: the adjustment for a fast guy to be able to 476 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,360 Speaker 1: get backwards, that's the hardest catch. For him to make 477 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:02,199 Speaker 1: Besides over the shoulder, is stopping that explosion and catching 478 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 1: the ball back. That's what most of the speed receivers 479 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,199 Speaker 1: don't have. They speed guys don't have hands. So what 480 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: is the third ingredient that comes with this route? Running? 481 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: The build savvyess? Why do we talk about Cooper Cup 482 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: being so special because he runs so many great routes. 483 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: Both of these guys, you can see this early in 484 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,439 Speaker 1: their career, their ability to build a run route. This 485 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 1: is Randy Moss's first game. This is Scatwright double pump. 486 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 1: We're gonna throw it back to mass. Moss runs a 487 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:36,640 Speaker 1: stutter goal for Brad Johnson on top of Tony Dungee's 488 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Cover two. They weren't used to do. Watch 489 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 1: this subtle. Oh you see that little subtle stop right there. Now, 490 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 1: This guy's sixty four, about two hundred pounds at the time. Look, look, 491 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: he's the best athletes has ever played wide receiver. This 492 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: been guy's been fast than guy's been tall, But none 493 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: of them to have that triple threat of the speed, 494 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 1: explosion hands that Randy Moss up. Now watch Jay Mark 495 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: this against Patrick Peterson. He goes up on him. Typically 496 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: if you're gonna make a right turn and go inside, 497 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: you step and go inside. He gives him a double 498 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 1: take that with you, he double clutched them. That's a 499 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,160 Speaker 1: Pro Football Hall of Famer Patrick Peterson in his first 500 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 1: game in pro football on Twitter, I said, Jay Mars 501 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 1: out there taking souls. So very very impressed in those 502 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 1: three phases of the game. Both of these guys excelled 503 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: in it. I did give you the caveat that Moss 504 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 1: did have a tweaked ankle, a high ankle sprain that 505 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: he reinjured several times during the season. But it's a 506 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:44,120 Speaker 1: credit to college football, college coaches, high school. These kids 507 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: are more prepared to take on the game of pro 508 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 1: football and make an immediate impact. So that's why, by 509 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:56,400 Speaker 1: the slimmest of margins j mar Chase, I believe not 510 00:25:56,440 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 1: only Randy Moss, Jerry Rice, any other Hall family at 511 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: this point he had a better rookie season. And the 512 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:09,400 Speaker 1: supporting cast behind Moss six six Pro bowlers on that team, 513 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 1: a couple Hall of famers. It's a pretty good supporting cast. 514 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 1: My my, my host here, what are you guys to me? 515 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 1: I love it. I grew up in the Moss era 516 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 1: where everything Randy did was idolized by fans at home 517 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 1: and by wide receivers and even the Moss that the 518 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 1: potential for Jamar Chase. He's only twenty one years old. 519 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 1: He was born March ninth, two thousand. What is the 520 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,959 Speaker 1: sky for this guy? What's the ceiling? Where can he go? 521 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 1: He can go as high as he can go. He 522 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 1: can continue, Kenny, Will he continue to reinvent himself the 523 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 1: way Randy did? Will he stay focused? Can him and 524 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 1: Joe Burrows put together eight to ten years together? Can 525 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 1: he stay hungry? Which he has shown all those things. 526 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 1: That's how you're able to be one of the best 527 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:56,880 Speaker 1: of the best. You have to give Randy credit because 528 00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 1: he finished it out first ballot Hall of Famer. The 529 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,640 Speaker 1: book on Jamar is just the first chapter. Moss's book 530 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 1: is closed. I also respect that Jason has done it 531 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 1: in the elements. He's played one game in a Domas rook. 532 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,360 Speaker 1: He plays in Ohio. Great point matters, Chris, you mentioned, 533 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,159 Speaker 1: you know back in August, everyone's saying Jamar Chason has 534 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: the drops. This guy might be a head case. I 535 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: don't know if he has it. There was doubt about 536 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: him for a hot minute. Do you remember when Moss 537 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: came in, was wherever any doubt in your mind about 538 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 1: him as a player, what he could do. The only 539 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:28,439 Speaker 1: doubt that I ever had was the natural doubt that 540 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: you would have from the time Dennis Green called me 541 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 1: when we selected him till the first time I saw 542 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 1: him in both of her tone several days later, and 543 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 1: then after that there was no doubt. I called Coach 544 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,679 Speaker 1: Green and Brian Billikin said, hey, man, I don't know 545 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 1: if you guys ever saw secretariat, but we have them. 546 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: Were threatened all when he gets drafted? No, I wasn't 547 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 1: threatened at all. I called a general manner to say, 548 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 1: I need four more years guaranteed, or I ain't coming 549 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:57,120 Speaker 1: to Minnesota. I knew it's the NFL. One day, bigger, stronger, 550 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 1: faster is coming to your town, and then it come 551 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 1: to Minnesota. Hey, what do I make of the chemistry 552 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 1: he has with Burrow going into this How much does 553 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 1: that account for the dominance he's had this year because 554 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 1: Randy didn't have it. So not detracting from your argument, 555 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,159 Speaker 1: but you have to consider it. Right, Jamar Chase is 556 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: putting up numbers everywhere. Is he shattering records anywhere else. Well, 557 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 1: you have to have good fortune on your side. And 558 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 1: the time that he was able to spend with Joe 559 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 1: Burrows there in college. It's paying dividends in his first year. 560 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: But also let's remember the good fortune Randy Moss had, 561 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: not only coming to Minnesota because he wasn't the top pick, 562 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: you know, he had slipped in the draft. But Brad 563 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 1: Johnson got hurt earlier in the year. If Brad Johnson 564 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 1: stays as our starting quarterback, we can't throw the ball 565 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: away down the field. Why because Brad can't do that. Okay, 566 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 1: Randall Cunningham was inserted and then the deep ball was 567 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 1: opened and we could do anything with mass So both 568 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 1: of them had had luck. On you think Jamar's putting 569 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 1: up his kind of numbers and on another team without 570 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 1: a different quarterback, Yes, he's special, special special anywhere, that 571 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 1: being Cincinnati l A, Green Bay, Tampa Bay, Jacksonville special 572 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 1: special if you see it. By it. We are joined 573 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: now by an absolute legend by a couple of majors. 574 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 1: Three time Pro Bowl wide receiver from my hometown team 575 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 1: to Cincinnati Bengals and now does a little bit of 576 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 1: TV for NBC Sunday Night Football, the owner and chairman. 577 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 1: Probably the biggest accomplishment that he had is Pro Football Focus. 578 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 1: My guy, my namesake, Chris c R I S. Colins 579 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 1: it's the real CC. What what? I can't believe this. 580 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:41,959 Speaker 1: First of all, you've got nothing but old people on 581 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: the show today. Your ratings go here. I'm honored to 582 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: be on the show with my guy because Chris, honestly, 583 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 1: you gotta tell a story because people do not believe. 584 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: They think I'm making it up. They seriously, they think 585 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 1: I am making this up. It goes like this ninth 586 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: grade Chris collins Worth. I think that was the year 587 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 1: you got drafted by the Bengals in second round out 588 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 1: of Florida. Three time. I think all SEC, academic, All 589 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: American there at Florida. You had like fourteen letters in 590 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 1: high school basketball, baseball, track and field. The guy was 591 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 1: But they showed this highlight when they drafted them and 592 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 1: it was the state hundred meters in Florida one hundred 593 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 1: meters and Chris collins Worth won that race. And then 594 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 1: he got the number when he came to Cincinnati, and 595 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: I liked the number and I was like, that's my guy. 596 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 1: And from that time on in school and athletics, I 597 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 1: changed the spelling of my name. My mom still to 598 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 1: this day is very very upset. I started practicing my 599 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: autograph and it was c R S. And then even 600 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 1: once I got into the NFL, we used to have 601 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 1: these alias names on the road. Fans and stuff wouldn't 602 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 1: harass USA. I was always Chris collins Worth. They used 603 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 1: to be like, why you put I didn't know about. 604 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 1: I used to get all kinds of bills. I didn't 605 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 1: know where they came from. That's like the Pro Bowl man, 606 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: you're doing me dirty ye out there, wide receiver. Let 607 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: me let me just say, first of all, it's unbelievable 608 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 1: that I have finally made it to the Hall of Fame. 609 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 1: That's the way I look at it. People ask me 610 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 1: all the time, like, you know, because they think because 611 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 1: I'm on TV that I'm in the Hall of Fame, 612 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: and so I would always just say, no, no, I'm 613 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 1: not in the Hall of Fame. But ever since you 614 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: made the Hall of Fame, now when they bring it up, 615 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: I go, yeah, my name's in the Hall of Fame. 616 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 1: That's it. That's my story, and that's it. Right there. 617 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 1: When I opened the door. I let it in. Let's 618 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 1: talk about Hall of Fame and you talk about they 619 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 1: have a wide receiver in Cincinnati, Chris, and I know 620 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 1: you love the position. Can you give me a little 621 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 1: bit about Jay mar Chase because I know you've been 622 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 1: watching him all season. I did a breakdown of him 623 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 1: versus Randy Moss in their rookie year. And I know 624 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: a lot of people are gonna get upset, but he's 625 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 1: the best rookie wide receiver that I have seen come 626 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 1: into the NFL. What's your thoughts on that? And do 627 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 1: you think that's good enough to be the Rookie of 628 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: the Year. Yes, absolutely, yes. And first of all, it's 629 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 1: the moments that this guy has had. You know, when 630 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 1: he played in that game in Baltimore, of course, that 631 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 1: was the big first step for this team this season. 632 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 1: He literally took over and he was playing against Marlin 633 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 1: Humphrey for the most part. You know how good Marlin 634 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 1: as he's an unbelievable player. He made a catch and 635 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 1: run on a little slant and broke two or three 636 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 1: tackles and spun backwards out of there and ran the 637 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: distance for the touchdown. And I said at the time, 638 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 1: I said this is one of the best games I've 639 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 1: ever seen a guy have, certainly in a Cincinnati uniform. 640 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 1: He was just phenomenal. That was until we got to 641 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: the Kansas City game. The Kansas City game, it was over. 642 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 1: It was fourteen to nothing, and you just knew it 643 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 1: was going to be Kansas City just another one of 644 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 1: those kind of walks into park and the Cincinnati Bengals 645 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 1: aren't ready and all those sort of things. You could 646 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 1: write the headline already from what we were watching. And 647 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 1: then Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase did some things that 648 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 1: just literally blew my mind. I mean, Jamar took over 649 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 1: the football game. That catch and run he made to 650 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 1: make it fourteen seven, and everybody who had ever worn 651 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 1: a Cincinnati uniform kind of set up a little straighter. 652 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 1: You know, we're thinking, all right, well, this is least 653 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 1: going to be competitive here, and it's only a seven 654 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 1: point game, and who knows what can happen. And then 655 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: he just kept making plays, and he kept making plays, 656 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 1: and then he kept making plays, and he made that 657 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 1: third and twenty seven at the end of the game 658 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 1: to kind of give him a chance to just go 659 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 1: ahead and lock it up. It has been phenomenal to 660 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 1: watch him playing. I know there's some good rookies out 661 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 1: there playing in the league this year, but what Joe 662 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 1: Burrow is doing right now and Jamar Chase is doing 663 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 1: is off the charts. And when you look at who 664 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 1: could beat the Kansas City Chiefs in the playoffs, it 665 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 1: takes somebody that can score with those guys. And right 666 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 1: now the Cincinnat DDE Bengals can score with them, and 667 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 1: they're really fun to watch, really fun of course, and 668 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 1: it all got started when Kay went to Cincinnati be 669 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:12,240 Speaker 1: the queen of Cincinnati. Were there you go? Your son 670 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,839 Speaker 1: gave me the greater's recommendation, Jack Collinsworth saying that ice 671 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 1: cream was the word, the place to go, and I 672 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 1: had the best time, And I appreciate you incorporating that 673 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 1: in your PF numbers. They're the k factor in going 674 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 1: to Now we got to get you to the playoffs. 675 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 1: So I love you so much, Chris collins Worth. I 676 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,319 Speaker 1: can say no more that you just did it all 677 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 1: for me there. Jamar Chase. Obviously, Joe Burrow, the chemistry 678 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 1: is on point. Go a little deeper into weird thoughts 679 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 1: on Burrow. You've seen so many quarterbacks so many seasons, 680 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 1: why is this one so special? And what's his ceiling, 681 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 1: especially going into his first postseason action with so little experience. 682 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 1: No ceiling, no ceiling, because we saw it happen at LSU, 683 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 1: where he had the highest grade that PFF has ever 684 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,360 Speaker 1: had coming out of college. So we saw it there. 685 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 1: We saw him in his rookie year come back and 686 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 1: was tearing it up. You know, he was made some 687 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 1: rookie mistakes, but was tearing it up and then tore 688 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 1: up his knee and came back. And I remember the 689 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 1: whole conversation, nobody thought he was ever going to even 690 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 1: make it back for this season. Well, okay, he'll sit out, 691 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,879 Speaker 1: or he'll be some shell of himself, Like we've seen 692 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,280 Speaker 1: all kinds of quarterbacks when they've got a bad knee 693 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 1: after their first year. And what did he do? From 694 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 1: opening day? You couldn't tell. You couldn't tell that there 695 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 1: was any kind of issue with this young man. And 696 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 1: he has something about him. I've had him on shows, 697 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,280 Speaker 1: I've had conversations with him, but from the very first 698 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 1: moment I saw him interviewed, there is something about that 699 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 1: cigar smoking son of a gun that just turns you 700 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 1: on if you are a fan of the Cincinnati Bengals. Right, 701 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,440 Speaker 1: we saw it at LSU. He goes out and he 702 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 1: wins the championships, he's in the locker room smoking a cigar, 703 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,759 Speaker 1: comes back when's the division for Cincinnati. And that is 704 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 1: a paradigm shift, you know, when you're talking about playing 705 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 1: for the Bengals and it always comes down to the 706 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,920 Speaker 1: end and then the Pittsburgh Steelers knock them off, or 707 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens knock them off. They went too and 708 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,359 Speaker 1: oh against both of those teams this year and went 709 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,920 Speaker 1: into their places and knocked him off and knocked him 710 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 1: off big. So I think that you're talking about a 711 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 1: dynamic leader who has this confidence, who has this borderline 712 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,800 Speaker 1: cockiness that we haven't seen around here since Boomerassias in 713 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,799 Speaker 1: playing the quarterback position. I think he's special and I 714 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:29,439 Speaker 1: think they're only going to get better. It's awesome, Chris. 715 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:30,880 Speaker 1: We love having you on the show and we love 716 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,319 Speaker 1: watching you on Sunday nights. You're gonna be working game 717 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,440 Speaker 1: two hundred and seventy two of the twenty twenty one 718 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,720 Speaker 1: regular season, and now it's in mid January of twenty 719 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,880 Speaker 1: twenty two. Is the finale Chargers Raiders, And we've had 720 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 1: a lot of fun on this show with a doomsday scenario. 721 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,720 Speaker 1: And I'm sure you know it. If the Jags upset 722 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 1: the Colts, a tie would get both the Chargers and 723 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:54,840 Speaker 1: the Raiders into the playoffs. And you know, I'm a 724 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,839 Speaker 1: glutton for punishment, and I think we are satis here 725 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,360 Speaker 1: at points where it comes to just seeing something different 726 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,760 Speaker 1: in football. Having called two blowouts the past two weeks, 727 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,839 Speaker 1: what is the broadcast going to be like when we 728 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,319 Speaker 1: see Derek Carr and Justin Herbert just taking knees for 729 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:13,440 Speaker 1: sixty minutes. Yeah, I heard Kyle working it over the 730 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,400 Speaker 1: other day. I was cracking off watching it because you know, 731 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:20,320 Speaker 1: you're thinking the same thing. So all right, let's break 732 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 1: this down, right, There's no way that they're gonna come 733 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,239 Speaker 1: out and take a knee. You know, I heard all 734 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,239 Speaker 1: the you know, all that sort of thing, So that's 735 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,920 Speaker 1: not happening. Let's take that one off the board. But 736 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 1: let's say we're at the end of the game and 737 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,800 Speaker 1: this thing is in overtime and all the doomsday stuff 738 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,840 Speaker 1: has actually happened, and now we're down to about the 739 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 1: last two minutes of overtime. And you kind of get 740 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,920 Speaker 1: one coach looking across the field at the other coach 741 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 1: and look, I know you've got a couple of time outs, 742 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,719 Speaker 1: but if I take the first knee and we can 743 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 1: get all the way through this thing, and you're not 744 00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 1: going to use those timeouts. Now you know these arrivals too, 745 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 1: so you know who knows about the dirty pool and 746 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:07,919 Speaker 1: what could actually happen here. But at some point, even 747 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,560 Speaker 1: if it's with fifteen seconds to go in overtime, you 748 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 1: would have to consider it, not for the other team, 749 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,919 Speaker 1: but for the fact who cares. It is your right. 750 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 1: We have heard that story done before that it is 751 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,719 Speaker 1: your right at the end of the season to not 752 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:28,440 Speaker 1: play anybody in week whatever it would be eighteen now, 753 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,239 Speaker 1: because if you don't want to play anybody, even if 754 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,400 Speaker 1: it impacts the playoffs for the other team or the 755 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 1: other teams in your division, it doesn't matter. You have 756 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 1: the right to do what is in your best interest 757 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,239 Speaker 1: to make the playoffs. And if it is in your 758 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,640 Speaker 1: best interest to take a knee at the end of overtime, 759 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 1: I think we're going to see that happen. Why would 760 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 1: you not Your job is very simple as a head coach, 761 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:55,799 Speaker 1: Your job is to get your team into the playoffs. 762 00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 1: And you know how my boy Al Michaels is now 763 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:06,400 Speaker 1: love some conspiracy there, you know. You know, my guys 764 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,360 Speaker 1: gonna have some stuff on this now. And where's the 765 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,439 Speaker 1: game being played? Just to make it all the much worse. Right, 766 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:16,280 Speaker 1: We're in Las Vegas, going right down the road, Derek, 767 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 1: you know, so this is gonna be fun. I'm just 768 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,799 Speaker 1: telling I don't know what al Al and Kyle have 769 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 1: a lot in common. I'll just say that you guys 770 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,759 Speaker 1: have a lot of I'll tell you what I got 771 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 1: in common. Right now, Go Jags. Let's go big Jaguars 772 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,640 Speaker 1: game this weekend. Chris that my eyes are on that game, 773 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,319 Speaker 1: and so are the Nations. But Chris, I remember back 774 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:37,759 Speaker 1: in the day, I think it was you were on 775 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,800 Speaker 1: inside the NFL and used to do this segment called 776 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:44,719 Speaker 1: Chris Collinsworth on a soapbox, and they would actually bring 777 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,799 Speaker 1: out a physical soapbox that you would stand on and 778 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,239 Speaker 1: just rant on something. It was awesome. I loved it. 779 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 1: I wonder if you would get into that mode here. Yesterday, 780 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,759 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers called an MVP voter a bum and an 781 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,680 Speaker 1: absolute bum for saying that he wouldn't vote for Rogers 782 00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 1: because the way he carried himself with his vaccination status, 783 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,719 Speaker 1: among other things. Chris, what was your reaction to that 784 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:10,160 Speaker 1: entire story in the back and forth with Rogers? Oh, baby, 785 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,520 Speaker 1: you are trying to get me back into headlines where 786 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:18,839 Speaker 1: I'm trying to avoid now. But you know, I get it. 787 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:23,920 Speaker 1: This is this is it's this topic just ends friendships, 788 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,719 Speaker 1: right it does. I mean, you you can get into 789 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,719 Speaker 1: this and I'm not gonna express my opinion. I went 790 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 1: pretty far down the road there one time on a 791 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:35,440 Speaker 1: game and I got buried. I mean, I got social 792 00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 1: media buried out there. But I do think what Aaron 793 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:43,560 Speaker 1: said was right from the standpoint of I don't think 794 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:47,759 Speaker 1: a voter should predetermine whether or not you're going to 795 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:51,520 Speaker 1: vote for somebody in the MVP balloting. I just don't. 796 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,920 Speaker 1: I think the MBP and I was a voter for 797 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:56,960 Speaker 1: a long time until I got you know, I didn't 798 00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 1: do such a good job getting it in on time 799 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:02,400 Speaker 1: all the time, but it was I think their job 800 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,000 Speaker 1: is to tell you who was the most valuable player 801 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,719 Speaker 1: in the league. And you know, if we're going to 802 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,719 Speaker 1: bring up everything that happens off the field, if we're 803 00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:12,960 Speaker 1: going to determine that based on the Hall of Fame. 804 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,239 Speaker 1: If we're gonna do all that, then let's say that 805 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,160 Speaker 1: right up front. But if we're not, and your job 806 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,959 Speaker 1: as a voter is to say who was the most 807 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:24,840 Speaker 1: valuable player in this football season, there's only fifty people 808 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,920 Speaker 1: that are voting, and so you have a big responsibility. 809 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:29,759 Speaker 1: I'm not going to call the guy a bomb. It's 810 00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,279 Speaker 1: his opinion. That's the way he's going to do it. 811 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,720 Speaker 1: I've heard about this in baseball, I've heard other things, 812 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:42,200 Speaker 1: but for me, personally, I couldn't do that. I would 813 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,920 Speaker 1: just put my blinders on, no matter what my political 814 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,560 Speaker 1: beliefs were, and I would vote for the person that 815 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:49,760 Speaker 1: I thought was the most valuable player of the league. 816 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:54,040 Speaker 1: The real CC anything but a bump I'm still listening 817 00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:57,040 Speaker 1: to twenty years later. I still do the highlighter in 818 00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,759 Speaker 1: different colors like you taught me, mark Off the different thing. 819 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,840 Speaker 1: Still got the bag with the multi colors. And thank 820 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,120 Speaker 1: you for all the hundreds of hours you have spent 821 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:09,440 Speaker 1: helping me be a broadcaster. Ah man, you're gonna make 822 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,280 Speaker 1: me cry. I appreciate all of you. Thanks for making 823 00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,120 Speaker 1: football so much fun for all of us,