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Speaker 1: Hey everybody, It's Monday, August twelfth, twenty twenty four. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. We're ready for live

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Speaker 1: reps now. It's been your man, MG Marcus Grant, joined

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Speaker 1: by Michael F. Floyo and Lakwan Jones. Gentlemen, it's nice

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Speaker 1: to be back in southern California. It's nice to travel.

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Speaker 1: It is nice to travel. It's nice to go different places.

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Speaker 1: It's always nice to come home and sleep in your

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Speaker 1: own beds. In case you were wondering what we were

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Speaker 1: talking about, the three of us, along with several hundred

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Speaker 1: of our closest and maybe newest friends, we're in Can't

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Speaker 1: Ohio over the weekend for the Fantasy Football Expo. Shout

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Speaker 1: out to Bob Long and mostly the Lung family. It

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Speaker 1: is like a family affair that helps put this thing on.

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Speaker 1: Along with all the other volunteers and employees around there.

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Speaker 1: They help put this thing together and make it so special,

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Speaker 1: a lot of fun. Yet again this weekend Florida. I

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Speaker 1: do want to ask you, because this was your first one,

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Speaker 1: Lakwan and I have been there. This was your first expo.

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Speaker 1: Your thoughts now that you have been a part of

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Speaker 1: that madness for the weekend.

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Speaker 2: I've already told everyone I'm coming back next year, So

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Speaker 2: I think that sums it up. Like I had so

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Speaker 2: much fun. Look, obviously it's cool to be with a

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Speaker 2: bunch of like minded people who are as passionate about

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Speaker 2: this as we are. But I always the best conversations

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Speaker 2: aren't even about football, Like, yeah, me and Marcus We're

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Speaker 2: talking like two thousands baseball for over an hour, like

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Speaker 2: on Saturday night. That was a lot of fun with football,

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Speaker 2: I mean, and then obviously networking and all the important

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Speaker 2: stuff of the xpo. But my voice, if it sounds

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Speaker 2: a little raspy or crack, I can hear a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Not only did I do the expo all week, I

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Speaker 2: got off the plane last night and I went directly

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Speaker 2: to another bar for my friend's first ever show. Shout

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Speaker 2: out to Tatau check out his music.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 2: It was a good time. But I'm on the struggle

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Speaker 2: bus right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, it's a it's a fun weekend.

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Speaker 1: I will say, like I get home, Uh, my my

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Speaker 1: mother in law's in the house, she's hanging out, and

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Speaker 1: she says, well, what's the highlight of the weekend? And

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Speaker 1: I said, well, it was probably the impromptu late night

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Speaker 1: with football game that broke out on the downtown Canton, Ohio.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 1: If you want to understand more, you can just go

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Speaker 1: through my Twitter feed.

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Speaker 3: Uh. The the amazing.

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Speaker 1: And hilarious and talented Drew Davenport was, you know, swinging

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Speaker 1: with fule Bat. Thanks to Eric Froton, who does a

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Speaker 1: lot of great college football stuff for in BC. Yes

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Speaker 1: in ALCA, shout out some Mariso Gutiers for bringing the

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Speaker 1: Luca door masks.

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Speaker 3: I should have worn mine for the show today. I

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Speaker 3: did not. It's a it's in my room. I should

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Speaker 2: Can I tell you my highlight of this trio?

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Speaker 3: Please?

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Speaker 2: We're in the car. Lakwalan already knows where I'm going

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Speaker 2: with this. It's uh, it's Mike Daddy's home. FF I

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Speaker 2: believe is his? Yes, Mike, Yeah, it's Coop. Everyone knows

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Speaker 2: Coope Andrew Cooper. And then it's me and la Quan

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Speaker 2: in the back and Coop calls me so that I

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Speaker 2: have his number so we can connect, and he's like, Lakwan,

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Speaker 2: I don't think I have your number. I'm gonna call it.

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Speaker 2: Like he gets it. He goes, I'm gonna call you

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Speaker 2: so that we could connect, and it just comes up

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Speaker 2: on the quat's photo. Is Matt Harmon?

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, So apparently apparently God beardy white fantasy football

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Speaker 1: guys all look alike to la Quan.

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Speaker 2: No, listen, I'm Matt Harmon. Coop's Matt Harmon.

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Speaker 3: If you're white, you're Matt Harmon. That's it. That's what

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Speaker 2: Now that we said that probably fifty times and it's

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Speaker 2: still hilarious. Like, I'm so embarrassed man, because the conviction

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Speaker 4: And then he calls me and my face just drops.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, wait, I don't have Matt Harmon's number, Matt

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Speaker 4: Harmon in my phone. I was like, oh my god, yeah.

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Speaker 2: With Harmon and he was like, I don't think I

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Speaker 2: was like, I know for a fact, I don't have

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Speaker 3: It was.

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Speaker 2: It was the highlight for me.

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Speaker 1: It was it is a blast of a weekend. If

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Speaker 3: I really am.

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Speaker 1: I'm so grateful for everybody who came by to say hello,

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Speaker 1: to shake hands, to talk. You know, if I met

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Speaker 1: you for the first time, I trust me, I enjoyed it,

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Speaker 1: and you know, look forward to the season, look forward

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Speaker 1: to next year as well. For those of you who

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Speaker 1: are listening to this and you have never been, one

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Speaker 1: hundred and twelve percent would recommend it absolutely.

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Speaker 4: Shout out to our Canadian listeners too, man, yeah, manou

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Speaker 4: out to them.

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Speaker 1: A lot of folks from the Great White North were

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Speaker 1: hanging out and introducing themselves. So yeah, absolutely, absolutely so

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Speaker 1: I recommend it next year.

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Speaker 2: Shout out to Bob Lung like you said, Marcus, but

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Speaker 2: also shout out to YouTube, because you two encouraged me

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Speaker 2: for a while to come to this and you were

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Speaker 2: like you just got it, like you sold it very well,

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Speaker 2: but you guys were like, where not even doing it justice?

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Speaker 2: And you guys it lived up like and exceeded it.

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Speaker 2: And I had a great time with you guys, So

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Speaker 2: thank you for pushing me to come.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely man. Great team building for sure, for sure.

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Speaker 1: All right, extually other football related news, because I guess

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Speaker 1: that's what we do here on this show. There were

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Speaker 1: preseason games over the weekend. There were a lot of

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Speaker 1: preseason games over the weekend. One thing that's sort of

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Speaker 1: Kansas City's game this weekend saw Xavier Worthy actually get

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Speaker 1: a lot of run too, get a few targets as well.

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Speaker 3: All those guys.

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Speaker 1: Are bunched so close together when you talk about Brown, Worthy,

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Speaker 1: Rashie Rice, they're all fairly close together in ADP, I

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Speaker 1: mean Florida with this and not really knowing how serious

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Speaker 1: it is, he's definitely gonna miss some time. We'll see

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Speaker 1: how much is this enough to sort of knock him

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Speaker 2: And unfortunately for me, my favorite has been Marquise Brown.

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Speaker 2: I've written about him on like as one of my

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Speaker 2: don't want to say he doesn't anymore because we don't

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Speaker 2: Like even after Cooper Cup got hurt last year, I

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Speaker 2: seen some speculation that does this keep him out now

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Speaker 2: I do think I don't know exactly how far yet

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Speaker 2: I'm going to knock him in the rankings, but I'm

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Speaker 2: definitely going to be lowering him. And I think Xavier

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Speaker 2: Worthy is the big winner of this because those two

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Speaker 2: always like to ease along their rookies. Maybe this pushes

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I don't know, how are you feeling

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Speaker 4: Yeah, It's definitely unfortunate, man, because I thought this would

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Speaker 4: where it's Patrick Mahons, where he's going to be able

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Speaker 4: he just can't stay healthy.

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Speaker 4: This dude's been banged up every season he's been in

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Speaker 4: the league. So it's kind of unfortunate that, you know,

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Speaker 4: Florio said, the slow start is really what I'm worried about.

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Speaker 4: So now I'm kind of pivoting my attention to maybe

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Speaker 4: Xavier or Worthy becomes maybe how Rashid Rice had his

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Speaker 4: we still don't know the outcome of Rice and his

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Speaker 4: all field situation, but I've been drafting a lot of

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Speaker 4: I honestly think, you know, Marquise Brown, he might not

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Speaker 3: Does Does Patrick Mahomes take a hit for either of

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Speaker 4: No, I don't think so, not much.

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Speaker 3: No, okay, because.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's still like they have if Worthy wasn't there,

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Speaker 4: Then more Rice is suspended for six to eight games,

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Speaker 4: and you know, yeah, that will be huge.

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Speaker 2: They need that downfield ability and as long as one

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Speaker 2: of those two guys are there to provide it, I'll

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I was just like, I'm really just

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Speaker 1: thinking about this because obviously, if they don't have one

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Speaker 1: of their downfield threats, does it look like last year's

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Speaker 1: offense again? But if Worthy can sort of fill that role,

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Speaker 1: then I think we can feel okay about where Mahomes.

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Speaker 2: Is going is a little more risk because we know

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Speaker 2: Mark Keith Brown can do that at the NFL level.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we have, we have. You know, again, we

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Speaker 1: haven't seen Xavier Worthy do it. We all believe we

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Speaker 1: haven't seen it yet.

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Speaker 4: They've all been sharing that shame video of like Xavier

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Speaker 4: Worthy of getting pushed down off the line, Like come on, man,

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Speaker 4: that's a huge and eighty pound linebacker.

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Speaker 1: Of course, I mean yeah, but we also that was

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Speaker 1: also I think a concern right when when he was

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Speaker 1: drafted that he is obviously incredibly fast. He is not

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Speaker 1: a big guy though, in how he would handle press coverage. Like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's not gonna always be a giant linebacker and he's

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Speaker 1: lined up against but you know, how would he handle

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Speaker 1: it against physical corners. So I think that's still still

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Speaker 1: a concern, But you're right, Andy Reid can sort of

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Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 1: It was a good weekend for rookie quarterbacks across the league.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, very very excited about what I saw out of Penix.

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Speaker 3: Starting with the AFC East.

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Speaker 1: As always, it is alphabetical order, so that gets us

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Speaker 1: year as Florido celebrates Josh Allen. No surprise, he was

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Speaker 1: I mean, should Josh Allen be drafted as the QB one,

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Speaker 2: I think he should be the first quarterback taken, but

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Speaker 2: It's twofold one. It's because I think quarterback is deeper

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Speaker 2: But because of all of that, I don't find myself

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Speaker 4: But he's a bigger he's a bigger quarterback, so like

436
00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,600
Speaker 4: he can create these opportunities on his own as well,

437
00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:15,520
Speaker 4: Like he'll rush it from outside the ten yard line,

438
00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:17,800
Speaker 4: He'll be at the twenty two and end up somewhere

439
00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:19,440
Speaker 4: close to the end ending.

440
00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,360
Speaker 2: And the yard rushing touchdown the playoffs too.

441
00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,080
Speaker 4: Like, dude, like this is like crazy, Like I really

442
00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:26,639
Speaker 4: look at it as like the price is hefty, but

443
00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:27,720
Speaker 4: I'm not going to be mad.

444
00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:27,960
Speaker 2: Man.

445
00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:29,760
Speaker 4: If I have to get him in the middle or

446
00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,280
Speaker 4: the back end of that second round, if guys that

447
00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,560
Speaker 4: I like at the wide receiver position there are gone,

448
00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,960
Speaker 4: then I'm getting sniped whatever. I'll get the QB one

449
00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:39,600
Speaker 4: on that back and in the second round.

450
00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:41,399
Speaker 1: I've just I've never gotten to that spot in the

451
00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:43,560
Speaker 1: draft and felt like I need to take a quarterback here.

452
00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,720
Speaker 4: I know it's a nasty feeling, but if it's Josh Allen,

453
00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:48,120
Speaker 4: I'm confident.

454
00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,919
Speaker 3: I'll do it all right, all right, I really was.

455
00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:51,960
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm glad.

456
00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:53,040
Speaker 1: I'm glad at least one of us is on the

457
00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:54,399
Speaker 1: other side of this, right, because it would have been

458
00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:54,919
Speaker 1: boring for you.

459
00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,400
Speaker 2: Guys put me on the island the one topic.

460
00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:02,679
Speaker 1: Though, Yeah, yeah, I mean, so Lakwan got into Khalil

461
00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,000
Speaker 1: Shakir a little bit. That mean Flora, who is the

462
00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:08,000
Speaker 1: wide receiver one on this team with Stefan Diggs on.

463
00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:12,240
Speaker 2: Khalil Shakira is my favorite value of them all. I

464
00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,439
Speaker 2: don't think enough people take note of what happened down

465
00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,080
Speaker 2: the stretch. Last year. He was top two amongst all

466
00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:20,120
Speaker 2: wide receivers and Fantasy points per target and per opportunity.

467
00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,639
Speaker 2: He was third and yak per catch, he led the

468
00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,640
Speaker 2: position in yards per target, and he had the best

469
00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:31,480
Speaker 2: catch right of all time. Plus in the playoffs he

470
00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,119
Speaker 2: was getting highly targeted. He made the two plays of

471
00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,199
Speaker 2: each game where and against the Steelers he did that

472
00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:38,360
Speaker 2: duck and under and he scored the touchdown and then

473
00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,399
Speaker 2: somehow caught the one against the Chiefs that that was

474
00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:45,000
Speaker 2: extremely impressive. So I think he is the best value

475
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,120
Speaker 2: for all the reasons. LQ was saying too how much

476
00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:51,159
Speaker 2: Allen loves the slot Cole Beasley all of that, but

477
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,920
Speaker 2: I think key On Coleman should be the first one

478
00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:58,159
Speaker 2: drafted because I think the ceiling is very high. I know,

479
00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,480
Speaker 2: Like I was laughing to my self hungover in the

480
00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,919
Speaker 2: hotel room Sunday morning, because I saw a bunch of

481
00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:07,639
Speaker 2: tweets that were like key On Coleman can't separate, and

482
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,600
Speaker 2: I'm like, one, if you're only realizing this now, you

483
00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:13,679
Speaker 2: didn't watch his college tape, yes, but when when I

484
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:17,199
Speaker 2: wrote about him before the draft, even like before he

485
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,160
Speaker 2: was a Bill or anything, I was like, this guy

486
00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,679
Speaker 2: is quarterback dependent. And what I mean by that is

487
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,000
Speaker 2: I don't think any he could be successful with any

488
00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:29,080
Speaker 2: quarterback because of the separation issues. But he is massive,

489
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,280
Speaker 2: He's got a huge catch radius. He is the best

490
00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,119
Speaker 2: contested catch wide receiver that Josh Allen has ever played with.

491
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 2: He's Allan has never had a weapon like Coleman. And

492
00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:40,159
Speaker 2: that's why he handpicked Coleman out of this group of

493
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:43,479
Speaker 2: receivers and said, get me that guy. And yeah, there

494
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,720
Speaker 2: might be separation issues, but when you can do all

495
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,159
Speaker 2: of that and you have a quarterback like Josh Allen

496
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,159
Speaker 2: who could put it on a laser. I don't. I

497
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 2: don't think this set like. I think he's gonna be fine.

498
00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,280
Speaker 2: And I said, like, if he gets a strong armed

499
00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:59,560
Speaker 2: quarterback like Alan Mahomes someone like that, he can succeed

500
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:01,320
Speaker 2: and be at a high level in the NFL. And

501
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,439
Speaker 2: he got that, so I'm excited. I think he might

502
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 2: be a little bit slow starting, but I expect him

503
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,480
Speaker 2: to quickly take over as the X and be out

504
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,639
Speaker 2: there consistently. And I think the ceiling.

505
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 3: Is very, very high.

506
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:17,120
Speaker 1: Any How do you gus feel about Curtis Samuel? Maybe

507
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 1: not the wide receiver one I am had?

508
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:24,200
Speaker 2: Yeah? Really well, damn yeah, what's wrong with you today?

509
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 3: Are you not?

510
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,919
Speaker 2: Like? What are we doing? Everyone is getting hyped up

511
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:32,040
Speaker 2: for Curtis Samuel. I'm just not. I know when he

512
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,720
Speaker 2: played his best, it was with Joe Brady, but I

513
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,719
Speaker 2: went and I dug into that season a bit. He

514
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 2: was still third in usage amongst their wide receivers, but

515
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,919
Speaker 2: he excelled because he was getting used a lot like

516
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 2: a running back because Christian McCaffrey had a season ending

517
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,359
Speaker 2: injury that year, so with them having two running backs

518
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 2: that could be used in the passing game, and then

519
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:56,880
Speaker 2: Shakir and Kincaid who could also win underneath. I think

520
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 2: Curtis Samuel is a really really good real life piece.

521
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 2: I just think he's one of those players that's all

522
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 2: floor for fantasy and that's not the kind of player

523
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:06,159
Speaker 2: that I like to draft.

524
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 4: All right, I'm not mad at it.

525
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 1: I mean I'm been starting to buy in just because

526
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 1: of that versatility a little bit, which admittedly that goes

527
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 1: against my general philosophy of things, right, because Curtis Samuel

528
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 1: in reality, sort of has Duke Johnson tendencies, you know, right,

529
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 1: But I like Duke Johnson as a player. But my

530
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 1: thing with Duke Johnson and it applies to Curtis Samuels.

531
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 1: Duke Johnson was a good running back on a team

532
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,159
Speaker 1: that always on a team with better running backs. And

533
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 1: he was a good receiver, but always on a team

534
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,639
Speaker 1: with better receivers. And it sort of feels like Curtis

535
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,359
Speaker 1: Samuel is kind of falling down that same path where

536
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,200
Speaker 1: you know, you can use him in the backfield, you

537
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 1: can use him as a runner, you can use him

538
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:48,680
Speaker 1: as a receiver, but there are always gonna be guys

539
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,879
Speaker 1: who are slightly better. But nonetheless, because there is a

540
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,400
Speaker 1: void here, right because everybody's still trying to figure out

541
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 1: their roles in this offense, it does feel like there's

542
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 1: an opportunity. Maybe it's one of those things where he

543
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 1: breaks out early, sort of fades as the season goes along,

544
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 1: and maybe that's when key On Coleman takes over. But

545
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 1: right now, I'm I'm starting to buy in a little

546
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 1: bit on Curtis Samuel. I mean, like, look at a

547
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,159
Speaker 1: DP or blow if he falls. Like, I'm not reaching

548
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 1: to get Curtis Samuel, but but I have I have

549
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 1: told myself a story where there is a path to

550
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 1: him being viable, at least at the first part of

551
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:17,399
Speaker 1: the season.

552
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 2: You know, yes, can we please never say if they

553
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 2: use him like Debo's.

554
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 1: What it's because I that phrase entered my head and

555
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 1: I'm like, i am not going to say it out.

556
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 3: I'm not going to say it.

557
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,919
Speaker 2: Say it. I'm like, like, there's one debo that's it.

558
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, it did cross my mind, and I said, I.

559
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 4: Can't Walmart version of Debo with Jaydeen Reed. I think

560
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:45,400
Speaker 4: that dry Land there you go? Is he like great

561
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 4: value debo, Curtis great value? There you go, great value,

562
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 4: great value Debo? There it is Oh my god, last

563
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 4: question about the Bills, lakwan. How much of a threat

564
00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:00,199
Speaker 4: is Ray Davis to James Cook? Oh, man, I does

565
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 4: you think it's a huge threat man? Just based on

566
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 4: his college tapes? Man, I mean, the dude had a

567
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 4: thousand rushing yards at three different D one schools and apparently,

568
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 4: as perk Kentucky media guy, he's the first college player

569
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,959
Speaker 4: to ever do that. So therefore, this dude is very talented,

570
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 4: very talented. The dude had seven receiving touchdowns fourteen rushing touchdowns,

571
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 4: so he knows where the end zone is at. He's

572
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,640
Speaker 4: able to break tackles. He's just just as explosive as

573
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 4: James Cook. So James Cook better watch out, man. I mean,

574
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:33,159
Speaker 4: he bet not slip either. He's very close into the

575
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 4: talent wise where I think, you know, Joe Brady's gonna

576
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 4: have a ton of fun with him, especially in the

577
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 4: red zone.

578
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 1: I mean, by the way, that that is an nil

579
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,719
Speaker 1: transfer portal era stat the whole like thousand yards at

580
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 1: three Division one, So I mean it really is like

581
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 1: it's just it's the thing that never the reason it

582
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 1: never happened before because guys couldn't really transfer that like

583
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 1: and if you were transferring that many times, you know

584
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 1: those chances you just weren't getting on the field for.

585
00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:00,440
Speaker 4: The dude ken ball man. He's my RB in my

586
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 4: rookie rankings behind Jonathan Brooks, and I put him that

587
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 4: high just him going to the Buffalo Bills and having

588
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 4: this scoring opportunity, Like the dude head is on a

589
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 4: swivel in the passing game as well, So it's like

590
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 4: I could really see him and James Cook splitting that

591
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 4: role as well.

592
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 2: And that's the scary I agree one hundred percent, and

593
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 2: that last year the Bills did not have another like

594
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 2: they liked Ty Johnson at times for spell like spurts,

595
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 2: but they did not have a running back. In my opinion,

596
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 2: that they felt confident like, hey, we could give James

597
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 2: Cook a drive off, and I think it's possible the

598
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 2: Bills could rotate like two drives for Cook, one for

599
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 2: Ray Davis. And because I don't know, if you like,

600
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:40,400
Speaker 2: last year, James Cook had legitimately like four dropped touchdown passes,

601
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 2: and from what reporters are saying, he's dropping someone in

602
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 2: the training camp as well, So that's I also think

603
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,959
Speaker 2: Ray Davis is a threat to take Josh Allen's rushing touchdown,

604
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,399
Speaker 2: not all of them, but some of them, because I

605
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,640
Speaker 2: think that's the role they wanted Damien Harris to play

606
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 2: last year, and we two his season was over. I

607
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 2: think they emphasized getting a power back for goal line situations.

608
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,679
Speaker 2: So I'm with you, LQ. I have not taken a

609
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 2: ton of James Cook, but I have so much Ray Davis.

610
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,440
Speaker 4: Yes, that's the way. I honestly think like his price

611
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 4: is still cheap. Like the average player right now is

612
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 4: are looking at James Cook and they're wondering why his

613
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 4: ADP is kind of low right now, and it's because

614
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 4: of Ray Davis. So I will honestly not completely fade

615
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,679
Speaker 4: James Cook, but I don't want to pay that price

616
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 4: where I can just wait and get Ray Davis, because

617
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,880
Speaker 4: if it's playoff time and he's cooking, I honestly see

618
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 4: Ray Davis making some really good pushes for the playoffs

619
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 4: for a lot of teams.

620
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 2: Cook is a very solid floor, but I think Davis

621
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 2: and Allen's rushing caps the ceiling.

622
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 4: Caps hit man. It definitely caps it. It's kind of nasty.

623
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 1: You mentioned like Ray Davis could take some of those

624
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 1: goal line opportunities.

625
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 3: I have been waiting for you, and every year I'm like,

626
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 3: this is gonna be the year.

627
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: The Bills just aren't going to use Josh Allen as

628
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 1: a goal line back, and like I've been wrong every

629
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 1: single year. Yeah, it's like standing on the corner and

630
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 1: shouting the world is ending. Like if I say it enough,

631
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,040
Speaker 1: eventually it's gonna be right. That was their emphasis this

632
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 1: last preseason. They were like, were no on and then

633
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 1: he had fifteen He's literally set the franchise record rushing, right,

634
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 1: but like at some point it's you know, yes, you

635
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 1: know whatever, it's gonna end.

636
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe maybe.

637
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:16,479
Speaker 2: Maybe he'll GiB you like six. I don't think he'll

638
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 2: ever give you less than six.

639
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and that's the floor, six to eight.

640
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 3: You know.

641
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 1: It's like the old Lebron tweets that that surfaced. He's

642
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 1: thirty years old, this free is.

643
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 2: Here.

644
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 1: We are here, we are ten years later, here, still

645
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 1: years later, it's still happening. All right, let's move Let's

646
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 1: move on to the Miami Dolphins last year to a

647
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: tongue of iloa two hundred and eighty four point four

648
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 1: points QB nine or he mostered to sixty seven point seven.

649
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 1: He was the RB five Tyreek Hill, who started just

650
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 1: lightning fast and then kind of slowed down. Injuries kind

651
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: of slowed him a little bit late in the season

652
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 1: three seventy six point four wide receiver two.

653
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 3: I had to dig a while to find the top

654
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 3: side end in Miami.

655
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 1: It was for the record, it was Durham smythe gave

656
00:29:59,920 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 1: you maybe seventy one points six points. That was good

657
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: for tight end thirty four. In the offseason, they said

658
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 1: goodbye to a couple of wide receivers, Robbie Chosen, Chase

659
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 1: Claypool and Cedric Wilson. They also parted ways with Tyler Croft,

660
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 1: a tight end. The offseason they went and I signed

661
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham Junior. They also added some tight ends Jody

662
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 1: Fortson and John new Smith. They spent a fourth round

663
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 1: pick on Jalen Wright, a sixth round pick on Malik Washington,

664
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 1: and a seventh round pick on wide receiver Taj Washington.

665
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 3: No relation at least as far as I know. First

666
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 3: dolphin off the board TYREEG.

667
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 1: Hill, going right around the third pick in the first

668
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 1: round in most drafts. So Floria Stua came out, had

669
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 1: a really good start to his season. The back half

670
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,719
Speaker 1: of the year was not so great. What is his ceiling?

671
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 1: He was the QB nine last year.

672
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 2: Is that his ceiling?

673
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 3: Can he somehow get better than that?

674
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 2: No, I think that's his ceiling. He was the QB

675
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 2: nineteen in fantasy points per game, which blew my mind

676
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 2: because like he was so good for a while, Like

677
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 2: he had the most he led the NFL and pass

678
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 2: attempts inside the five yard line, he had the most

679
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 2: yards on deep passes, he didn't miss any time. Tyreek

680
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 2: Hill was on the pace for an MVP season. Jalen

681
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 2: Wattle was doing his thing, and yet this guy couldn't

682
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 2: average eighteen fantasy points per game, like to me, because

683
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 2: he's not going to run at all and we know that,

684
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 2: So that right there caps the upside. But also in

685
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 2: the second half of the season he was to QB

686
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 2: twenty three. And I know, bad weather narratives and stuff

687
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 2: get tired, but like that's the thing with this guy

688
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,479
Speaker 2: in which this Miami team, Yeah, it's really like you

689
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 2: saw it. When they go to cold weather cities, they

690
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 2: do not play well. So I say it a lot.

691
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 2: I don't want to really want to win in September.

692
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 2: I want to win in December and January. So that

693
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 2: to me is I don't really find myself heavily targeting

694
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 2: to it. But I will say, if you there's a

695
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 2: right build with him, like if you take Jayden Daniels

696
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 2: or if you take Caleb Williams, maybe you don't want

697
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 2: to start those guys right away. You want to see

698
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 2: it first, someone like Tua in September in that Miami heat. Yeah,

699
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 2: you want to play him then. So I think that

700
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 2: is the way if you want to have two on

701
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 2: your team.

702
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 3: That is I mean, yeah, have to say.

703
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 1: I mean Lakwan it is he is he an every

704
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 1: week startable quarterback, Like he's just the guy you draft,

705
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 1: you just put him in the lineup and just forget

706
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 1: about it.

707
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 4: Absolutely not. I mean when we look at two, we

708
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 4: look at a guy like he has all these weapons

709
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 4: around him. He has the speed demons. That's that's what

710
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 4: I call the Miami Dolphins offense. The speed demons, like

711
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 4: the speed Infinity gauntlet that Michael Daniels Mike McDaniels walked

712
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 4: around with, and it's like, how is this guy not

713
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 4: putting up like crazy numbers every single week? And the

714
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 4: last three seasons, this dude only has ten games of

715
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 4: over twenty plus Fantasy points. It's really nasty, Like he's

716
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 4: in that range of the Geno Smiths and the Trevor

717
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 4: Lawrences when it comes to fantasy and it's like, how

718
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 4: is this possible? You just led the NFL in passing

719
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 4: yards last season. You're not giving a sending thing on

720
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 4: the ground. So it's like, we're definitely looking at the

721
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 4: ceiling where he's a quarterback that gives you fifteen Fantasy

722
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 4: points per game, Like you're not winning any leaves with

723
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 4: like that with him as your QB one, Like Florio said,

724
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 4: you had to build him. If you're gonna take the

725
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 4: chance on Caleb Williams, if you're gonna go with Jayden Dams,

726
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 4: even Anthony Richardson who's coming back from injury and you're

727
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 4: still worried about him, you go ahead and grab a

728
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 4: security blanket like a Geno Smith or a Tua, Like

729
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 4: you don't ever draft Tua as your QB one going

730
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 4: into the season because this dude falls apart and we're

731
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 4: gonna bring the weather up. I mean, the dude averaged

732
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 4: thirteen Fantasy points per game in the months of October, November,

733
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 4: and December. That is bad people, That is terrible. So

734
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 4: once it gets cold outside in this holiday season and

735
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 4: you're on a playoff run or you're trying to get

736
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 4: to the playoffs, you're gonna rely on to a sorry

737
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 4: to break your heart, You're you're probably not going to

738
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 4: the playoffs.

739
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: I mean it's wild because I feel like, I feel

740
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 1: like this time of year ago, we were like, yeah,

741
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 1: man two was like set up for a big, big season,

742
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 1: and it felt like it was happening, and then when

743
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: it didn't, So now we're all just kind of like,

744
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 1: all right, I guess this is who he is.

745
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, his first four games are in Miami if you

746
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 2: want to get that warm, and there's a huge advantage

747
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 2: in Miami that doesn't get talked about enough because the

748
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 2: visiting players are in that sun the entire game in humidity.

749
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, the sun. Yeah, now, you're right, you're right.

750
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 1: I Mean that's what's been interesting between the the Dolphins

751
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: and Bills is you know, like Buffalo having to go

752
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 1: to Miami early in the season when it's crazy hot,

753
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 1: and then Miami going back to Buffalo, like you know,

754
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 1: after Thanksgiving when it's you know, it's buffaloing outside.

755
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 2: How lost to them one time in the last like

756
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 2: five years, and it was the game where the game

757
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 2: winning drive gave Davis and Stefan Diggs are getting ivs

758
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 2: on the sideline they can't move.

759
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 3: Like, oh my god, yeah, oh man, that's wild Lukwan.

760
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 3: Who is the third option in the passing game? And

761
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:51,320
Speaker 3: do we want that player?

762
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 4: Right?

763
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,359
Speaker 1: I mean we know Tyreek Hill, Jalen Waddle, those are

764
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: your one and two.

765
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 3: Who is number three? Is it anybody that we have

766
00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:58,800
Speaker 3: an interest in drafting?

767
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 4: So it's funny. I was He's on the plane like

768
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 4: prepping for the show. I was writing this down and

769
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 4: like I I joking, like I'm still looking at it,

770
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 4: like it's in like a little fun I was like

771
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 4: John new Smith and then I was like, wait, why

772
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 4: not John Newsmith man? Like this could be fine, Like

773
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 4: he could be the third option. I really think that

774
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 4: people are not really looking at John new Smith way

775
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 4: because he's had a kind of like a journeyman Tennessee

776
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 4: Falcons and even New England. Like I forgot he was

777
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 4: on New England, like he was just underutilized. But now

778
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 4: I feel like he's in a situation where he actually

779
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 4: has a path to have like some valuable targets. And

780
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 4: here's why the Dolphins run the third few with three

781
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 4: wide receiver sets. So therefore you're not selling me on

782
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 4: Odell Beckham. Like to me, he's just a name. At

783
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 4: this point, he's on the back in his career. I

784
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,240
Speaker 4: don't see him being a huge threat to defenses anymore.

785
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 4: Like he'll sporadically be put on the field to do

786
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 4: this and this and that. But we already know it's

787
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 4: the one and two. John Newsmith is an interesting person

788
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 4: to be able to get grabbed up because a lot

789
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 4: of people would think he would follow Arthur Smith to Pittsburgh.

790
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 4: But how I'm looking at this Dolphins offense. They were

791
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 4: top five in screen passes, and I bring up the

792
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 4: screen passes to tight ends because they are trying to

793
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 4: get something going. Now that you have somebody that can

794
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 4: execute this, you have somebody like John new Smith. I

795
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 4: go back to that Vikings games last season. He took

796
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:17,359
Speaker 4: it to the house. It was like a forty seven

797
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 4: yard touchdown. This dude is able to get into open

798
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 4: space yards out there to catch. We know him as

799
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 4: the yak king when it comes to the tight ends.

800
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 4: Very explosive. Mike McDaniel. He got the speed demons over there,

801
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 4: and I think he's going to unlock John new Smith.

802
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 4: My counterpoint to that is Mike Gasicki, and he didn't

803
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 4: like him. I mean, but you know an athletic pass

804
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 4: catching tight end who you know, I look at Gasicky

805
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,800
Speaker 4: sort of admitted that he was essentially a big slot receiver.

806
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 4: Like when you said I have to learn to play

807
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 4: tight end, that to me was a huge red flag.

808
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 4: But you had an athletic pass catching tight end and

809
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 4: he's still get out third. He had smife out producing him, like,

810
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 4: he ran more routes. He was on the field a

811
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 4: lot more than gets that year, and it was just weird.

812
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 4: It was just like, oh this this isn't gonna work.

813
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 1: But I mean saying he's not fast, I mean, I

814
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: guess my concern Florio is that, you know, can TUA

815
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 1: support a third pass catcher when you have to get

816
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 1: the ball so much to Tyreek Hill and Jalen Waddle, Like,

817
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: is there just enough for a third guy there?

818
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,919
Speaker 2: If we count the running backs as the third pass

819
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 2: because they're gonna be heavily involved in the passing game

820
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 2: as well. But if I am taking anyone here I'm

821
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 2: not gonna say I'm as bullish as Lakwalan on John

822
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 2: new Smith because that's the guy. But if I was

823
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,760
Speaker 2: to take a second guy, a third guy there after,

824
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 2: not including the running backs, it would be Smith because

825
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 2: as like a late round dart throw, because the bar

826
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 2: for tight end is so much lower.

827
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 3: Uh.

828
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:50,919
Speaker 2: And if you look odell is, I hope he has

829
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 2: fun in Miami. I hope he recreates a picture. I

830
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 2: think his days of being a Fantasy contributor are are

831
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:02,359
Speaker 2: long gone. And behind him there's Brax and Burrios and

832
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 2: then I don't even think the Dolphins super fans would

833
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 2: be able to name the other receivers on the roster

834
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 2: right now. It's it's a whole bunch of guys that

835
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 2: no one's ever heard of.

836
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 3: Job, so hey man, some respect on river.

837
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 1: Craycraft's name a yore Craft.

838
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 2: That's a great name, great name. I wish he was

839
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,720
Speaker 2: good because that name is so much fun. But I agree.

840
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 2: I think Mike McDaniel cares about one thing and its speed,

841
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 2: and John new Smith is one of the fastest tight

842
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 2: ends in the NFL, so I'll take a shot on him.

843
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 2: But again that if any if he hits this year,

844
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 2: no one was higher on him than LaQuan.

845
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:39,879
Speaker 4: If he hit them, I'll dye my hair blonde. Man,

846
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 4: I'm going straight burrow up, Hi, Marcus, we got to

847
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 4: hold him to that.

848
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 2: Sorry?

849
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 3: What what?

850
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 1: What is the threshold? What does John new Smith have

851
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: to it for you to top five? Oh?

852
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 2: That's setting it high. That's top five, top five? What

853
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 2: if he's top ten? Would you?

854
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 4: I still I probably would do something, but I'm not

855
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 4: doing my hair blonde for top ten.

856
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 2: It got it got a hit like big shave your

857
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 2: head top ten? Has he ever done that? Let's see,

858
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 2: I don't know.

859
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 3: I'm not sure if he has.

860
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 4: I'm trying to see where he peaked at. He never

861
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 4: really got in the chants though.

862
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 3: Okay, so I so how about this.

863
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,320
Speaker 1: If he's top ten, you shave your head because it'll

864
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 1: it'll it'll grow back though, because you're fine.

865
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 3: If he's not five, you die of.

866
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 4: Blonde, going blond baby, right?

867
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 3: Right? He was number ten in twenty twenty. He was,

868
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 3: he was the tight end that.

869
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 2: Nine or better blonde.

870
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 4: This might actually happen now.

871
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 3: We were doing us.

872
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:37,479
Speaker 1: If he is not, if he goes nine or better

873
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 1: than than the year career year.

874
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 4: All right, ship it, let's do it.

875
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 2: Uh, you gotta remember because I probably won't.

876
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, none of us will remember this.

877
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 1: Maybe one of the hopefully one of the listeners out

878
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,439
Speaker 1: there will tweet us and remind us about this after

879
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:53,240
Speaker 1: through the year.

880
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 3: Florial.

881
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: How much of a flying the ointment is Jalen Wright

882
00:39:57,920 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 1: in that backfield?

883
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:01,359
Speaker 2: Does that? I mean, like, how annoying is he?

884
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 3: Yeah?

885
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 1: Basically like how how much of a read too?

886
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm thinking a bug like annoying?

887
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, He's just like how annoying? How annoying is he

888
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 1: potentially going to be? Because like, I don't think he's

889
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 1: going to have enough to have a standalone role, Like

890
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 1: he's gonna be really frustrating to try to have a

891
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 1: standalone player. But I just think he's gonna do enough

892
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:22,439
Speaker 1: that makes us really upset about a Chan and Moster

893
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 1: at I.

894
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,839
Speaker 2: Don't I don't think he's gonna have a I think

895
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 2: he'll get maybe a handful at most. When you have

896
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 2: those two guys and a Chan and most Aret, I

897
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,800
Speaker 2: still think they're gonna get like ninety percent of the

898
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 2: work every week. And what I've been viewing right as

899
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 2: is one I think he's a long like they know

900
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,720
Speaker 2: Raheem Mostert as soon as potentially this year, because fallofs

901
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 2: for running backs happen overnight, so I think, and most aret,

902
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 2: I know he stayed mostly healthy last year but has

903
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 2: a history of missing time a chan struggled to stay

904
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 2: on the field and when one when those guys were out,

905
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 2: the lineup didn't look the same because they lost that

906
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 2: speed at the running back position. So I think McDaniel

907
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 2: was like, look, we need another burner in case these

908
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 2: guys miss time and to be the long term replacement

909
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:12,439
Speaker 2: for Raheem Mostert. So I think he'll get some He'll

910
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 2: dabble and get some work. But I also wouldn't be

911
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 2: surprised if, like, he's a healthy scratch most weeks unless

912
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 2: those guys miss time, because to be a third string

913
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 2: running back you need to be able to contribute in

914
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 2: other ways as well. And apparently he's super low on

915
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 2: the depth chart right now. I don't buy into that

916
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 2: at all, but I think he is, like if you're

917
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 2: doing best ball draft, still where he's going. He is

918
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 2: a good dart throw because the floor is legitimately zero,

919
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 2: but the ceiling is so high.

920
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 1: I mean, are you are you throwing darts at Jalen

921
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: right Luquan Bestball drafts?

922
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, all summer I've kind of been like, you know,

923
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 4: just picking him up late in draft where hes gone.

924
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 4: But in redraft, it's always gonna come down to like

925
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 4: how large is your bench, Like if you're at the six,

926
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 4: seven or even eight bench spot, I don't know if

927
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 4: I can add him in the late rounds because at

928
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 4: that point I'm still trying to get the good value

929
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 4: on some of the wide receivers. But I really feel

930
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 4: as though, like how Florio said, like you're gonna be

931
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 4: picking him up just banking on, like I guess injuries

932
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 4: that are probably gonna happen ahead of him because he

933
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 4: does have two running backs that have like a lengthy

934
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 4: injury history so far. So it's like, I really feel

935
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 4: as though you're just gonna be holding your breath, you know,

936
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,439
Speaker 4: at some point of the season where he will start

937
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 4: getting more involved just based off of an injury. But

938
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 4: he's definitely a guy, underrated, underrated tool in fantasy. He's

939
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:29,839
Speaker 4: a watch list Like if something pops up, you get

940
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 4: the notification, go straight to your watch list is right there.

941
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 4: Put the waiver wire claim in for it's just.

942
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 2: One those guys make shut The team that drafts him

943
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 2: will cut him before.

944
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 4: He hits exactly exactly, So just keep an eye on

945
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 4: him all season because he's he's like, I don't want

946
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 4: to undersell him, like he's getting buried in the depth chart.

947
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 4: The dude's very talented, like he was able to produce,

948
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:54,280
Speaker 4: you know, high yards per carry behind a mid tier

949
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 4: type of old line in Tennessee. So it's like one

950
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:58,879
Speaker 4: of those things where he's a producer, Like he gets

951
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 4: the opportunity. I know he'll be with the show up

952
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 4: for show out. It's just that you just have some

953
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 4: bodies ahead of you.

954
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 3: Yeah.

955
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 1: No, I don't think it's the talent thing with Jalen, right,

956
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 1: I think it's a situation thing. He's just he's just

957
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,720
Speaker 1: in a very very crowded he's more always speaking the future,

958
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 1: speaking of the Dolphins and Odell Beckham.

959
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 3: Thiss just popped up on my timeline.

960
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,359
Speaker 1: He's remain He's expected to remain on the pup list

961
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: this week, so basically nothing has changed.

962
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 3: He's on the publish current.

963
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 4: Collecting checks at this point, just ques checks and getting

964
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 4: vibes man La Miami like this dude's chilling.

965
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 3: Do your thing for sure.

966
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: All Right, we're halfway through the AFC. Take a break,

967
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 1: come back at you the last two teams. Next on

968
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 1: the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast, take gonna look at the

969
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: New England Patriots. Last year, their top quarterback was Mac

970
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,760
Speaker 1: Jones one hundred and eighteen point three points QB thirty.

971
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott was actually their top scoring running back as

972
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 1: the Ramondre Stevenson was dealing with injury issues. There one

973
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:54,839
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy four and a half points for Zeke

974
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 1: AREB thirty to Mario Douglas the wide receiver sixty four

975
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:02,280
Speaker 1: overall one hundred and seven point two points Hunter Henry,

976
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 1: which your tight end nineteen one hundred and nineteen point

977
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 1: nine there. In the offseason, they moved on from Mac

978
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 1: Jones and Ezekiel Elliott Devonte Parker retired. They also moved

979
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 1: on from Pharaoh Brown and Mike Gaesicki at tight end.

980
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 1: They did go out and bring back Jacoby Brissett. They

981
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:24,240
Speaker 1: also signed Antonio Gibson, kJ Osborne Austin Hooper now calls

982
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 1: New England home, as well as tight end Mitchell Wilcox.

983
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 1: They spent the third overall pick on Drake May, second

984
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:32,800
Speaker 1: round pick on Jalen Polk, fourth round pick on Javon Baker.

985
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,320
Speaker 1: They did draft a second quarterback that was Joe Milton

986
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 1: in the sixth and a tity and Jahen Bell in

987
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 1: the seventh. First Patriot off the board, Lemandre Stevenson, but

988
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 1: not until round six. So Florio, we've talked about We've

989
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,399
Speaker 1: talked plenty about Jalen Polk, We've talked plenty about Javon

990
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,280
Speaker 1: Baker because we like the shiny new things.

991
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:54,320
Speaker 3: But are we overlooking some of these guys?

992
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 2: Right?

993
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 1: The Mario Douglas made some plays. Kendrick Bourne is a

994
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 1: veteran who's been around this league. Are we over looking

995
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:01,959
Speaker 1: a lot of the other guys in that room?

996
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 4: Yeah?

997
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:07,320
Speaker 2: I'm I'm sad. I'm not giving up on Javon Baker,

998
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 2: but I do need to stop drafting him as much.

999
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 2: Because they used five wide receivers before he entered the

1000
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 2: game the other day. It was on the fourth drive

1001
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:21,800
Speaker 2: when Bailey Zappi was out there. You know who was

1002
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 2: the water. Kendrick Bourne was hurt. But kJ Osborne they

1003
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 2: were like, don't dress he might be the wide receiver

1004
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 2: one to start the year and it's gross. But this

1005
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:36,240
Speaker 2: is a team where if I'm taking I don't want

1006
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 2: no offense to him. I don't want kJ Osborne. We

1007
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 2: know what he is and in an offense like this,

1008
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 2: he's not gonna produce for fantasy. So that is why

1009
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 2: I'm chasing the shiny new toys, because we know what

1010
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 2: these other guys are at this point, Uh Douglas. I

1011
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,879
Speaker 2: could see the hype around Douglas, but I still think

1012
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 2: Jalen Polk. He played well the other day when he

1013
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 2: got to come in. He was out there with Drake

1014
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 2: may and and made some really nice catches. So I

1015
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 2: might I have I already have a ton of Javon Baker.

1016
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 2: I think in the drafts I still have. I'm gonna

1017
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 2: definitely try to get some Jalen Polk just to cover

1018
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 2: both bases there.

1019
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 1: I mean, Lakwan, this feels like one of those situations

1020
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: where the training camp videos actually sort of means something.

1021
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: I've got a lot of Jalen Polk training camp beatles.

1022
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 1: This one actually feels like there's some legs to this.

1023
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 4: Now, there's definitely some legs. He's definitely gonna be a

1024
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 4: contributor for that offense because I was just looking on

1025
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 4: the timeline, like reading the b writers thing, Like you

1026
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:35,320
Speaker 4: see all positive reports about Jalen Polk and I'm like, Okay,

1027
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,439
Speaker 4: well that's great. You know, that's one of the more

1028
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 4: refreshing things coming from this boring Patriots offense compared to

1029
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 4: last year. But I think we are overlooking some of

1030
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 4: these wide receivers. And the great thing about it is

1031
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 4: you're not paying a hefty price for any of them,

1032
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 4: Like you're gonna be getting one of these guys if

1033
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 4: it's Pop Douglas to Mario Douglas or if it's Jalen

1034
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:55,800
Speaker 4: Polk or Jayvon Baker, like you're not paying a hefty

1035
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 4: price to where the expectations you should be bringing these

1036
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 4: guys in and taking all that positive news that they're getting,

1037
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 4: you know, through camp, and they're gonna honestly be guys

1038
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 4: that you're gonna have a rotation kind of for by it,

1039
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 4: like bye weeks and like guys that are banged up

1040
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 4: and you take them out, they're gonna be flex guys.

1041
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 4: So you're not paying a hefty price for any of

1042
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 4: these guys. So I'm taking a ton of shots on

1043
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,840
Speaker 4: Javon Baker I'm taking shots on obviously, to Mario Douglas,

1044
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 4: that's my main guy that I love being at how

1045
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,839
Speaker 4: explosive and creative that he can get, you know. So

1046
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 4: it's one of those things like don't be afraid to

1047
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 4: take a new Land Patriots wide receiver in drafts this year.

1048
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 1: Well, I think just because the ADP is nice, right,

1049
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 1: like you're not investing a whole lot, and so you know,

1050
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 1: I've drafted Polk, I've drafted Baker.

1051
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 3: You know. It goes back to the we know what

1052
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 3: some of these other guys are.

1053
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: And to your point, Florio, I mean, I think for

1054
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 1: for a guy like kJ Osborne, it's a floor play,

1055
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 1: right because the ceiling is not gonna be especially high,

1056
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 1: especially in that offense, regardless of who it is, right,

1057
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 1: whether it's whether it's Jacobi Brissett, whether it's Drake May,

1058
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:55,839
Speaker 1: They're just the ceiling is not gonna be very high

1059
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 1: for any of those guys.

1060
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 2: And all of these guys are purely like later around.

1061
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, uh, Florida.

1062
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: Is there any value in drafting Antonio Gibson in this offense?

1063
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 2: I think so. So I'm I'm in the middle of

1064
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 2: writing my I I do it every year where I

1065
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 2: write about new play callers and and who could benefit

1066
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 2: or get hurt from them. And Alex Van Pelt has

1067
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 2: only called plays one time, it was two thousand and

1068
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 2: nine with the Bills, but he has been in Cleveland

1069
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 2: now for the last four seasons. What do all five

1070
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 2: of those years have in common? They heavily used two

1071
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 2: running backs, and I think we could see more of that.

1072
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 2: Plus like last year when Ramondre Stevenson missed time, Zeke

1073
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:42,799
Speaker 2: Elliott was awesome. Like, I know, the efficiency wasn't great,

1074
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:44,799
Speaker 2: but he was getting so much volume as the only

1075
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 2: back out there that like, he helped win me a

1076
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,760
Speaker 2: championship and I played him every single week that Ramondre

1077
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:54,319
Speaker 2: Stevenson was out. So I think Gibson, Look, I'm not

1078
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 2: saying he's gonna be like a weekly RB two, but

1079
00:48:57,760 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 2: he doesn't get drafted as that. He gets drafted a

1080
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 2: bench running back. And I do think it's possible where

1081
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 2: he could be like Kareem Hunt was for the Browns,

1082
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 2: where where he's coming in on some passing downs, he's

1083
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:11,320
Speaker 2: coming into spell uh Stevenson give him a break at times,

1084
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 2: and then if anything happens, we know that this guy

1085
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 2: can handle a backfield to himself and and put up

1086
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 2: some numbers. So he's someone that in the last couple

1087
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 2: of weeks I have found myself when I'm in the

1088
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:26,839
Speaker 2: like RB forties range, I've taken some shots on him.

1089
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, Lakwan is he will he finally be

1090
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,800
Speaker 1: the pass catcher that we wanted him to be in Washington.

1091
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 4: No, but obviously you have a Rodre Stevenson there. But

1092
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 4: I just feel like it's it's a good thing that

1093
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 4: he's going to be heavily involved in the passion game

1094
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 4: where this is actually a hit to Ramondre Stevenson. I've

1095
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 4: been fading him since Best Ball drafts have been able

1096
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:51,280
Speaker 4: to get open, and definitely in redrafts, I'm not interested.

1097
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 4: Even though his ADP is not high, it's not bad,

1098
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 4: but I just feel like it's a trap if you're

1099
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 4: looking for an RB two in these p prir leagues,

1100
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:00,879
Speaker 4: because like Florio said, Fred Jackson and nine, like I mean,

1101
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 4: he had forty six catches. And when you look at

1102
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 4: Alex fan Pout's history as an offensive coordinator, even though

1103
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:08,840
Speaker 4: he wasn't calling plays, he still has some influence in

1104
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 4: how that offense is ran. With these running backs, not

1105
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,800
Speaker 4: one of them had over forty six receptions in the

1106
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 4: entire time in the year since nine under alex Man Pelp.

1107
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 4: So those are one of the things where like we

1108
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:22,839
Speaker 4: love Ramandre Stevenson for the guy that had eighty eight

1109
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 4: targets sixty nine catches, you know, two seasons ago. But

1110
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 4: it's like if you take away that and you just

1111
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:31,800
Speaker 4: make him a pure runner and then you have somebody

1112
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 4: like Antonio Gibson behind him, who's the better pass catcher,

1113
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 4: it kind of seems like nasty work here where it's

1114
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 4: like Antonio Gibson might be that little what is the

1115
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 4: fly on the ointment ointment. Yeah, it might be one

1116
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 4: of those situations here where I think Gibson might find

1117
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 4: some days where he's putting up ten twelve Fantasy points

1118
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 4: on a random week and you're like, maybe I should

1119
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 4: get this guy into rotation. So Florio sets ignoring. Yeah,

1120
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 4: very annoying. So if like you're a late in the draft,

1121
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 4: take your shot Antonio Gibson, I would gladly have him

1122
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 4: on my bench.

1123
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have running back catch stat by the way, there.

1124
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 3: You go, there you go. Jerome Ford is close.

1125
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 1: He had forty four that seems annoying just because you're

1126
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:12,320
Speaker 1: talking about like, yeah, he'll give you send to twelve points,

1127
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:14,399
Speaker 1: and like that's enough for you to make think maybe

1128
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,319
Speaker 1: I'll pick him up, but like it's never enough for

1129
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 1: you to be like, yeah, I'm gonna put him in

1130
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: the lineup right.

1131
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1132
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 1: If you see, if you see your projection and it's like,

1133
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 1: you know, ten point seven, you're like, uh, is that

1134
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 1: somewhere else?

1135
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 4: I've been down bad with running back and Drees. I mean,

1136
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 4: so sometimes those ten points are a blessing.

1137
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 2: He's the kind of backup I like though, because we

1138
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 2: know if something happens to the starter, this guy's getting

1139
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:38,760
Speaker 2: all the work.

1140
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 4: It's gonna be Zeke all over again. And like Stevenson,

1141
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 4: I love him, I want him to stay healthy. It's

1142
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 4: just that with these changes and now they have talented

1143
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 4: wide receivers to lean on him as the pass catcher

1144
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 4: is not that high of the priority now when you

1145
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 4: have young talents like Javon Baker and Jalen Polk and

1146
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 4: Damario Douglas, and you still have Kendrick Bourn who's been

1147
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 4: very productive when healthy. So it's like Stevenson's not going

1148
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,359
Speaker 4: to be utilized as much as we will want him

1149
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 4: to be utilized in that passing game, Uh, Hunter, Henry anyone.

1150
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 2: So when I read this question, Marcus, you know the

1151
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 2: gift of I think it's like one of the Muppets

1152
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:17,760
Speaker 2: or something like that is on stage, just like looking

1153
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 2: side to side, right, I pictured you doing that as

1154
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 2: you ask.

1155
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like in terms of like overall fantasy

1156
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 1: like it's just not great, but in terms of what

1157
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 1: the Patriots do on offense, like he ends up having

1158
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:35,839
Speaker 1: a decent sized roles, or at least he has in

1159
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 1: the past.

1160
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 3: But is that enough for you to take the shot

1161
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 3: on him in drafts?

1162
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 2: No, Jonath Smith, give me Smith, let's go.

1163
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 4: No, I mean I think co teammates and it just

1164
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 4: didn't work out. But yeah, I'm out too.

1165
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 3: All right, let's go to the Jets. Wrap this thing up.

1166
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson was their top scoring quarterback last year, not

1167
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 1: because they wanted him to, but because they had to

1168
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:02,879
Speaker 1: have him. One hundred and twenty six point eight points

1169
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 1: QB twenty nine, which means he was slightly better than

1170
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 1: Mac Jones running back Breese Hall two hundred and ninety

1171
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:09,799
Speaker 1: and a half points.

1172
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 3: That was RB two.

1173
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 1: It was also about one hundred points behind Christian McCaffrey.

1174
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 1: Last year, Garrett Wilson was your top wide receiver two

1175
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 1: hundred and thirteen point two points. Wide receiver twenty six

1176
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 1: had over one thousand yards, but on a team that

1177
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 1: did not score a lot.

1178
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:24,839
Speaker 3: He had just two touchdowns.

1179
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 1: Tyler Conklin was the top tight end in New York

1180
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty three point one points. He was

1181
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 1: tightened eighteen so offseason they pretty much lookdidated a lot

1182
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 1: of their quarterbacks. Brett Rippon, Trevor Simeon, Zach Wilson all gone,

1183
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 1: Randall Cobb gone, Corey Davis. They said goodbye to cj

1184
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:44,359
Speaker 1: Uzama also out in free agency, though they brought in

1185
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:46,959
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor to try and get somebody that they could

1186
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 1: be leave in as a backup in case the worst

1187
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 1: case scenario happens. They also signed wide receiver Mike Williams.

1188
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 1: They drafted Malachai Corley in the third round. They drafted

1189
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:57,319
Speaker 1: running back Braylan Allen in the fourth round. They did

1190
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:00,120
Speaker 1: draft a quarterback, Jordan Travis, in the fifth and a

1191
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:02,879
Speaker 1: running back Isaiah Davis also in the fifth. First jet

1192
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 1: off the board, Breeze Hall right about the fourth pick

1193
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:10,400
Speaker 1: or so in most drafts. So lakwan, can Aaron Rodgers

1194
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,320
Speaker 1: coming up on age forty off a bat Achilles injury?

1195
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 1: Can he be a quarterback one again?

1196
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 4: It's ultimately gonna come down to that jets O line,

1197
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 4: Like I want to say no, just based on the

1198
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 4: Achilles injury in the age, and like, we don't know

1199
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:25,360
Speaker 4: if it's gonna be the Aaron Rodgers that we know

1200
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 4: and love, that used to wear the green day Packers

1201
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:29,840
Speaker 4: helmet where he's able to roll out of the pocket

1202
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 4: make the great plays and extend the plays. I don't

1203
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 4: know if we're gonna get that Aaron Rodgers that we

1204
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 4: know and love, because I don't really see him being,

1205
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 4: you know, as mobile in the pocket and like as

1206
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 4: aware of what's going on with this old line. Like

1207
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 4: I still have my questions with this old line about

1208
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 4: protecting him so he can be back there to cook.

1209
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,240
Speaker 4: So it's like it's gonna come down to the Malachai

1210
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 4: corl As. It's gonna come come down the Breis Hall

1211
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 4: to kind of bail him out. So I don't think

1212
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,359
Speaker 4: we're gonna get to Aaron Rodgers that's gonna be able

1213
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 4: to air the ball all out and stretch the field

1214
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 4: and extend the plays like the times that he had

1215
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 4: with Davante Adams, like Garrett Wilson is a amazing time.

1216
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 4: He's a top five wide receiver. And it's like, I

1217
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:11,879
Speaker 4: don't know if that's enough being that we're on the

1218
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:14,879
Speaker 4: back end of Aaron Rodgers's age, because it's like he

1219
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 4: might get you like sixteen seventy seventeen Fantasy points per

1220
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:19,880
Speaker 4: game by the end of the next season if he

1221
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 4: says healthy, but like that's the ceiling, whereas like, I

1222
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:25,760
Speaker 4: don't even know, man, there's just so many questions marks

1223
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 4: going on.

1224
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:29,799
Speaker 1: I mean out yeah, I mean, I know, a couple

1225
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,879
Speaker 1: years ago, right, you had him, But two years ago,

1226
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:34,880
Speaker 1: I know you had him ranked as like QB thirteen

1227
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 1: or fourteen. He finishes like QB twelve or thirteen, like

1228
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:39,919
Speaker 1: pretty close to what you had him ranked that which,

1229
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 1: by the way, Good Morning Football from that.

1230
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 2: Year it was thirteen and that's where he finished.

1231
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, they owe you an apology because they mocked you.

1232
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 1: They they openly mocked you on air.

1233
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:53,279
Speaker 4: They hate fantasy. I don't know why he was coming.

1234
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 2: Off of back to back MVPs.

1235
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 3: I get it, but you were the bold call. Yeah,

1236
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 3: but you were. You were absolutely right.

1237
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 1: But it feels like though we are also sort of

1238
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:05,479
Speaker 1: drafting Garrett Wilson at his ceiling on the assumption that

1239
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is going to be something close to the

1240
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers of the past. Like it feels like we

1241
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 1: are we are potentially setting ourselves up for failure, right,

1242
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 1: you know.

1243
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 3: What it is?

1244
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 4: It's like names still sell, Like the name is still

1245
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 4: selling for the casual players, Like, no, Aaron Rodgers is

1246
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 4: the best quarterback all time. Yes, but let's talk about

1247
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 4: this season at this age, with this situation. Like I

1248
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:30,319
Speaker 4: would never take Garrett Wilson on the back end of

1249
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:32,840
Speaker 4: that first round only for the simple fact is that

1250
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 4: I know he's gonna see targets, but I don't know

1251
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 4: if we're gonna be getting the Garrett Wilson that we're paying,

1252
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.

1253
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, It's why I go back and forth. I might,

1254
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 2: I might settle on having Marvin Harrison over him. I

1255
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 2: go back and forth on that, But I don't have

1256
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 2: a ton of Garrett Wilson because I'm very afraid of

1257
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 2: Aaron rod We've talked about it a lot on this show.

1258
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 2: Dan Marino is the only notable quarterback to come back

1259
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 2: from an achilles injury in the last thirty years, and

1260
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:00,799
Speaker 2: he was thirty three years old. And if you want

1261
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 2: to say, well, medical stuff has advanced a whole lot, sure,

1262
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 2: but that doesn't change the fact that an NFL history history,

1263
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 2: there's three quarterbacks Tom Brady, Drew Brees, one year of

1264
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 2: Brett Farr who averaged more than fifteen Fantasy points per

1265
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 2: game at age forty or beyond. This guy is approaching

1266
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 2: forty one years old. The last time we saw him

1267
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 2: play was his worst season in his career. He's a

1268
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 2: year removed from the game right now. It is Look,

1269
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 2: I know he's Aaron Rodgers, He's an all time legend.

1270
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 2: He's saying all the right things. He's saying he's back

1271
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 2: everything time is undefeated. And when you now have two

1272
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 2: injuries in a row and stuff like that, it's worrisome

1273
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 2: to me. It's really scary. And I wouldn't be surprised

1274
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 2: if if Rogers is I don't think he's toast, but

1275
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised if he looks a lot more

1276
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 2: like he did his final year in the Packers than

1277
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 2: he did. Plus two lqs point man. Not only did

1278
00:57:57,920 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 2: he have DeVante Adams, but when we think of Aaron,

1279
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 2: we think of him moving, like manipulating the pocket and

1280
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 2: hanging with the ball, finding someone and firing downfield. The

1281
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 2: Jets are not going to let him do that, in

1282
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 2: my opinion, behind this whole line coming off of that injury, No.

1283
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 3: I mean it was it was sort of that. It

1284
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 3: was those rollouts, right.

1285
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 1: He ended his season on a rollout where he tore

1286
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 1: his achilles on a play that he later said he

1287
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 1: didn't really feel comfortable running.

1288
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and they called it three times in

1289
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 2: four plays. I believe there you go. So yeah, I

1290
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 2: get a different version of Aaron Rodgers. Ladies and gentlemen

1291
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 2: like yeah, man, I don't see it.

1292
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 1: All right, So I know Florio's answer to this. I'm

1293
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 1: I ask you lakwan. Mike Williams of Malacho Corley, ooh.

1294
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 4: Give me Corley man. I am a big Williams guy

1295
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 4: where I'm like he is always going to be like

1296
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 4: the dude does not know how to lay out for

1297
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 4: a ball without like every single catch looks like it hurts,

1298
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:52,959
Speaker 4: Like what are we doing here? Like this is why

1299
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 4: you're injured? All the time, like the hard knocks with

1300
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 4: the chargers, and I'm watching him during practice laying all

1301
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 4: the way out shoulder and dude, you have to learn

1302
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 4: how to protect yourself like that used to be Debo,

1303
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 4: Like Deebo would be going straight full speed into like

1304
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 4: linebackers show down and then he's hurt, like Mike Williams

1305
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 4: has yet to learn how to be a safe wide receiver.

1306
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 4: So availability is your best ability. So give me the

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00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 4: young kid malakor.

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00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, which by the way, I think they were. That

1309
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 1: was the thing about him. Oh you're gonna use hm

1310
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 1: any Debot type role, or he can be a Debo

1311
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 1: type player, like I don't Again, I'm not buying into that,

1312
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 1: but not Debo.

1313
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 2: But I think because of the Aaron Rodgers injury, they're

1314
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:33,439
Speaker 2: not gonna want him to hold the ball very long,

1315
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:36,720
Speaker 2: which means you're gonna generate quick touches with yak and

1316
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 2: Malakai Corley. Plus Corley's playing in the slot, so that

1317
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 2: that leads to a lot of quick targets as well.

1318
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 2: The only concern I have is he only played in

1319
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 2: three wide receiver sets this past week, and and if

1320
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 2: he's doing that, that caps the upside.

1321
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, to watch the next couple of weeks see sort

1322
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 1: of what happens there last one? Uh, Tyler Conklin, anyone?

1323
00:59:57,680 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 1: I feel like this is more viable. This is this

1324
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 1: more viable than than Hunter Henry Nay.

1325
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 4: I can get on board this as a tight end

1326
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 4: two very sneaky though, But no, I'm out really.

1327
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 3: Oh see.

1328
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 1: I think if there's, if there's any tight end that

1329
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 1: suddenly comes out of nowhere and makes the leap, I

1330
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 1: think it's Tyler Conklin.

1331
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 4: Geez man, I do crackers.

1332
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:17,640
Speaker 1: I mean again, but this goes back to the like

1333
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 1: which Aaron Rodgers. Are we getting right?

1334
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 3: But Aaron rod remember Aaron Rodgers made Robert Sunyan a

1335
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 3: thing right. Robert was in our lives for a long

1336
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 3: time because it's the.

1337
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:30,480
Speaker 2: Tight end that caught the hailman, that one that we

1338
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 2: all Richard Rodgers, was it?

1339
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:33,560
Speaker 3: Yes, Aaron.

1340
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 2: Wow, Rogers sustained tight ends. Uh he needs I mean, look, Mike,

1341
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:42,520
Speaker 2: what the Jets receivers are. As much as I'm like

1342
01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 2: hype for Corley, they're very thing behind Garrett Wilson, depending

1343
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 2: on what Mike Williams can get back to you. And

1344
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 2: here's a fun stat for you three years in a

1345
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:53,600
Speaker 2: row with eighty seven exactly eighty seven targets for Tyler Conklin.

1346
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:56,240
Speaker 2: Like he gets a couple more touchdowns, he could be

1347
01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 2: he could be a thing. To me. I'm not saying

1348
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 2: get him, but I'm like, I put him in like

1349
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:05,280
Speaker 2: with with Isaiah Likely and as like tight end, two

1350
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 2: targets that I like because of their upside. John new

1351
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:10,560
Speaker 2: Smith belongs in that group. Let's go.

1352
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:12,360
Speaker 4: You know that's three times you got him on the show.

1353
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 4: Let's go.

1354
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:15,600
Speaker 1: Yeah man, it might be more of your hairs blonde,

1355
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 1: Yeah man. All I want to say is last year Tyler,

1356
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 1: and look I get it Tyler. Kyle Pitts was sort

1357
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 1: of frustrating. But Tyler Conklin had more catches, thank Kyle Pitts.

1358
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 1: He only had about forty fewer yards than Kyle Pitts.

1359
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 1: He didn't score any touchdowns, but the numbers were on par, right,

1360
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:36,080
Speaker 1: numbers were on par He gets better quarterback play, the

1361
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 1: receptions can go up, the yards can go up, and

1362
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:40,120
Speaker 1: maybe he finds his way into the end zone. There

1363
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:44,080
Speaker 1: is very much a a version of the multiverse where Tyler,

1364
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 1: yeah man.

1365
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 2: A research bag man. If you do a bunch of drafts,

1366
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 2: get like two shares of Conklin with John who one

1367
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:54,800
Speaker 2: of likely something like that.

1368
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 1: You dig into next gen stats and you let us

1369
01:01:57,080 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 1: know what you find, right, all right? You go on

1370
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 1: GMFB and you tell you tell Peter Schrager and Kyle

1371
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:06,400
Speaker 1: Brandt that like, this is this is happening.

1372
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 3: This is the guy.

1373
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 4: This is happening this year?

1374
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 3: Ye all right?

1375
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:16,560
Speaker 1: Immaculate vibes over Tyler Conklin's a good place to end

1376
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:21,080
Speaker 1: this podcast today. We'll be back with you on Wednesday

1377
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 1: for another edition of the Pods. We will talk about

1378
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:27,000
Speaker 1: the NFC East and as how we will finish out

1379
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 1: our team previews, so probably maybe hopefully look him to

1380
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 1: the preseason games coming up for the weekend as well

1381
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:33,480
Speaker 1: to kind of give you a look ahead at some

1382
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:36,400
Speaker 1: of those. By the way, NFL Fantasy Live is back

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01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 1: on your TVs by the time you listen to this,

1384
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:40,320
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1385
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:42,840
Speaker 1: chances are if you haven't, you'll get to see us

1386
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:46,080
Speaker 1: on Tuesday Wednesday as well as the season is back

1387
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 1: up on us, so get ready for that the meantime.

1388
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:50,240
Speaker 1: That'll do it for this edition of the NFL Fantasy

1389
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 1: Football podcast. They happy, safe and healthy, do good and

1390
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:54,520
Speaker 1: live well. I'm gonna go get some tea and we

1391
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 1: will talk to you guys on Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: Warm Warm No