1 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:09,639 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 2 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined by the 3 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: one and only Wes Hodkowitz. We're coming to you here 4 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: from our studios at Lambefield, Wes for another double duty 5 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:22,959 Speaker 1: episode because we only have one show this week. No, 6 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: not your fault this time, only one show this week 7 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: because of the Thursday game in Detroit on Thanksgiving. So 8 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: we will review the Vikings, we will preview the Lions, 9 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 1: and try to cram it all into one show. Twenty 10 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 1: three to six was the final score at lambeau Field 11 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: over Minnesota, a solid effort in all three phases by 12 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 1: the Packers. To me, this game came down to three things. 13 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: Emmanuel Wilson's breakout game, a massive turnover on special teams 14 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: that altered the course of the football game, and then 15 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: an absolutely smothering defense by the Packers in the second half. 16 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: So I'll let you take whichever one of those you 17 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: want to start with. 18 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 2: You know what I want to start with, the Emmanuel 19 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 2: Wilson story, if I may, sure. I know everybody likes 20 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 2: to talk offense. Offense sometimes gets a little bit too 21 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 2: many eyeballs. On it. But this was a very precarious 22 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 2: position Green Bay was put into because Josh Jacobs, by 23 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 2: all intentsive purposes, probably was healthy enough to play in 24 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 2: this game. But you got the Detroit Lions on Thanksgiving 25 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 2: at Ford Field on that tour four days later. Do 26 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 2: you really want to rush him back after the bone 27 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 2: bruise and then have him play two punishing football games 28 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 2: in a matter of four days. They decide to roll 29 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 2: the dice with Emmanuel Wilson and also Chris Brooks and 30 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 2: use those two in a platoon to sort of navigate 31 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 2: this matchup. Boy golly, did Emmanuel Wilson prove the Green 32 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 2: Bay Packers correct? Yep. His first NFL start ends up 33 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 2: becoming the first one hundred yard rushing performance individually by 34 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 2: the Packers this season. He plows into the end zone 35 00:01:56,120 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 2: for two touchdowns and in doing so, becomes the first 36 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 2: Packers player and only the second one since the merger 37 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 2: to have one hundred plus rushing yards two plus touchdowns 38 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 2: in their first career start since Sam con Gato in 39 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 2: two thousand and five. And I felt like this actually 40 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 2: was that type of performance. Emmanuel didn't break like a 41 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 2: huge explosive run, but he continually pushed the pile. You 42 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 2: know what really impresses me about him. This has nothing 43 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 2: to do with him being an undrafted free agent, nothing 44 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 2: about him being a former Division two star at Fort 45 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 2: Valley State. It's the fact that he has a really 46 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 2: explosive burst, but he still maintains the power to really 47 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 2: launch himself into linebackers. Yeah, that's a unique combination. A 48 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 2: lot of running backs don't have it, and in this 49 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 2: particular game, the Packers rode him to victory. With all 50 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 2: the mistakes that the Minnesota Vikings were playing, the Packers 51 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 2: were able to play it safe and rest A lot 52 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 2: of guys be able to navigate this type of matchup 53 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 2: by establishing the run and running the ball continually. 54 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,799 Speaker 1: Yeah. What I really liked seeing from Wilson in his 55 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: first NFL start and first really truly extended action we 56 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: got to see was the combination that he does bring 57 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: in terms of both his vision and his power. There 58 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: were some tough runs where he had to make a 59 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: quick decision with his feet at the line of scrimmage 60 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: to you know, to get what was there, even if 61 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 1: it was only just three or four yards, but to 62 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: get what was there to move the chains to put 63 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 1: the offense in a good position, and there were other 64 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: times where he kept the pads down and he powered through. 65 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: I mean, that first touchdown run he had at the 66 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: goal line was really impressive. The second effort that he 67 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: showed there, and the reason you're allowed to have a 68 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: second effort is because you have the pad level and 69 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: the balance to absorb the first hit and stay on 70 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: your feet to allow yourself to power across the goal line. 71 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: I really liked what Wilson did there. As far as 72 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: how this game unfolded, the Vikings just weren't doing much 73 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: on offense. The defense got a huge stop in the 74 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: red zone. Minnesota was running the ball with Jones and 75 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: Mason pushing the ball down the field on the ground, 76 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: and it came down to a third and one in 77 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: the red zone. They got a little tricky with TJ. 78 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 1: Hockinson coming across taking the direct snap. The Packers get 79 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 1: the stuff there. They go forward on fourth and one, 80 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 1: they hand it off to Jordan Mason and he gets 81 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 1: stuffed as well. So the turnover on downs and the 82 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 1: red zone was big. Other than that, all the Vikings 83 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 1: were able to do was kick two very long field 84 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 1: goals fifty two and fifty nine yards, so they were 85 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: never really threatening the end zone on those other two possessions. 86 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: But the game goes into halftime with just a ten 87 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: to six lead. Packers were getting the ball coming out 88 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 1: at the start of the second half, and you're thinking, Okay, 89 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 1: you go down and get a score, you go up, 90 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: you know, a couple of scores, and then let's see 91 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: what happens. Well, the Packers' offense got across the fifty 92 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: but then had a penalty stalled out. The Packers have 93 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 1: to punt, and then that's when the game changed because 94 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 1: zan and made probably what would have to be considered 95 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: the play of the year on special teams so far 96 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: for the Packers in twenty twenty five, Miles Price, the 97 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: young punt returner and dangerous punt returner for the Vikings, 98 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: the ball is sailing over his head inside the ten 99 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: yard line, so he gives up on it and says, okay, 100 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: I need to go block somebody so that the Packers 101 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: can't down the ball close to the goal line, and 102 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 1: in the midst of engaging Zane Anderson, Daniel Wheelan's backspin 103 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: end over end the ausse style punt comes back and 104 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: Anderson sees the ball, Price doesn't. Anderson shoves Price into 105 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: the ball, the contact makes it live. He falls on it, 106 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: so the Packers end up getting the touchdown a couple 107 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: of plays later. That was sort of the start of 108 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 1: the second half touchdown and when this game got to 109 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 1: seventeen to six, it was pretty much Curtains at that point. 110 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 2: An excellent overview of this, and I want to look 111 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 2: at it from two different perspectives, if I may, am 112 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 2: I allowed to do that? Sure? The first one is, 113 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 2: I know there was a lot of converse say earlier 114 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 2: this season about the decision to have Romeo Dobbs inside 115 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 2: the twenty. These are the reasons why a lot of 116 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 2: times you want to have a veteran player at least 117 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 2: somebody that knows the game situation. I'm not saying anything 118 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 2: about Price here, I'm saying the strictly in terms of 119 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 2: the Packers strategy. Price, by staying close to the ball 120 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 2: inside the ten yard line, made himself susceptible to being 121 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 2: pushed into it, which is Zane was telling us after 122 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 2: the game, is exactly what he was trying to do. 123 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 2: Is one of the flyers on that play he saw 124 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 2: where the ball was and it was such a quirky bounce. 125 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 2: I mean, it was just an odd bounce where it 126 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 2: just kind of pushed right to the right. It was 127 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 2: almost like it went on like a trajectory, like it 128 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 2: hit like an invisible wall and just darted towards the sidelines. 129 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 2: It was great by Daniel, as he'd been saying he's 130 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 2: been looking for that type of good bounce all season 131 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 2: because at some point there is just a little bit 132 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 2: of luck involved there. But the fact is, like a 133 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 2: lot of times you'll see Rome when he's back there, 134 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 2: he will evade or look for a block or something 135 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 2: like that, and then just whatever happens inside the twenty happens. 136 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 2: But you're not leaving yourself open to a muff punt 137 00:06:56,960 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 2: by running into it. Anderson drives him into the ball 138 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 2: and was able to jump right on it, and it 139 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 2: was hilarious listen to him talk about it afterwards because 140 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 2: he's like that pile felt like forever as the referees 141 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 2: are trying to get it going in there, and he. 142 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: Was on top of it right away, was on the 143 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: bottom of it, but the referees couldn't sort it out, 144 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: and Anderson had the ball the whole time. 145 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 2: And Anderson said, I mean there was guys from his 146 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 2: team saying, Zaane, do you got it? Do you got it? 147 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 2: There's guys from the Vikings that that are jousting for it, 148 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 2: are asking price if he had gotten it. And then 149 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 2: finally it comes out and here he is at the 150 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 2: five yard line. Two plays later, boom boom, Emmanuel Wilson 151 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 2: plows that thing into the end zone for a score 152 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 2: and really the game breaking, kind of backbreaking score in 153 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 2: this one. What I love about it is there was 154 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 2: a time probably about ten years ago, and I think 155 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 2: this is one of the big, really nice shifts that 156 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 2: Green Bay has made under the Brian Goodkinz era, where 157 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 2: they've dedicated themselves to developing players who might not necessarily 158 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 2: contribute on defense or offense. But our core special teams guy, 159 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 2: Zane Anderson epitomizes that he was here for now in 160 00:07:56,440 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 2: this third season, but has very rarely played on defense 161 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 2: unless really in a case of emergency, and he's filled 162 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 2: in well there when he has. But the fact is 163 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 2: they have him as a core four guy, and for 164 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 2: so long he was kind of a pass personal protector 165 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 2: on punt coverage and then really since Corey Ballentine left. 166 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 2: They pushed him outside to be opposite of being Bo 167 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 2: Melton now and he's been money And as Daniel said afterwards, 168 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 2: they call him white Lightning. And he got down there 169 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 2: in a hurry and listening to Wheeland wieland will never 170 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 2: be one to really give himself any credit. He talked 171 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 2: about having the benefit of having two of the fastest 172 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 2: flyers in the National Football League as disposal, but for 173 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 2: him also to have three punts inside the twenty in 174 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 2: this game a field position maestro. That's why Green Bay 175 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 2: was able to win this game. They made JJ McCarthy 176 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 2: go the long way and he could. 177 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 1: Not do it. Yeah, absolutely, I mean this was This 178 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 1: was a Viking special teams unit as a whole that 179 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: is one of the best in the league. And Rich 180 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: Bisaccia talked about that last Thursday before the game. And 181 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: when you see Will record makes field goals of fifty 182 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 1: two and fifty nine yards two times on punts the 183 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 1: Packers got pinned inside the ten yard line. This and 184 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: Miles Price has had some you know, dynamic returns this year. This, 185 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: this is a Viking special teams unit that is at 186 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,079 Speaker 1: the top of the league. And because of the turnover, 187 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: the play by Anderson, the Packers were actually able to 188 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 1: win the special team's battle against one of the one 189 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: of the best units out there. So that was huge. 190 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 1: And then just the fact that the Packers got the 191 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: eleven point lead, a multi score lead. It's seventeen to six, 192 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: And as I wrote in my Rapid Reaction editorial after 193 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: the game, Hey, Jeff Hafley called his shot man. He 194 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: stood there at the podium on Thursday. He was absorbing 195 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: all the questions about where's the pass rush, like what's happening? 196 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: And he said, hey, look here. You know, the Packers 197 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: as a whole, as an entire team, have not been 198 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: able to play the type of game they want to play. 199 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: The Packers had not had a multi scored lead since Pittsburgh. 200 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:57,839 Speaker 1: And what did we see in Pittsburgh with a multi 201 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 1: score lead. Micah Parson slammed the door right. The Packers 202 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: finally get another multi score lead after the turnover and 203 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 1: the touchdown, and then the pass rush was just unleashed 204 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: and JJ McCarthy was overmatched. The Vikings offensive line was overmatched. 205 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: Parsons gets two sacks, Devonte Wyatt gets two sacks. Two 206 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 1: of those almost result in safeties twice. The Vikings are 207 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 1: punning essentially eleven yard punt snaps from the one to 208 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 1: the back of the end zone when normally a punt 209 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: snap is fifteen yards. They're punning with short snaps at 210 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 1: the back of the end zone twice in the game. 211 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 1: The Packers take advantage of the field position, add a 212 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 1: couple of field goals get it to a three score game. 213 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:39,559 Speaker 1: And as you had said, you know, took the air 214 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: out of the ball and all that, and just got 215 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: the clock to zero and got to the finish line 216 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: in this one. But this just shows you what the Packers' 217 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:54,079 Speaker 1: defense is capable of when they have a multi score 218 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: lead to protect and the opponent has to throw the 219 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: ball because you can't just try to grind out yards 220 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: on the ground and you know, risk spending seven, eight, 221 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: nine minutes on the clock to get one score when 222 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 1: you're down by a couple of scores. That's where the 223 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,239 Speaker 1: Vikings found themselves and they were overmatched. 224 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 2: One thing I loved about this matchup with what Green 225 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 2: Bay did defensively, was it was the Micah Parson show again. 226 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 2: He went over ten sacks on the season with his 227 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 2: two sacks three quarterback hits numerous pressures, some of which 228 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 2: helped lead to those Davante Wyatt opportunities for sure, but 229 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 2: it came in all shapes, all forms, all sizes. You 230 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 2: saw Warren Brinson, the Packers' rookie sixth round pick, have 231 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 2: five pressures in this game and his first career sack, 232 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 2: sharing that with ISAAMH McDuffie in a really interesting looking front. 233 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 2: I don't know if we still had one what you 234 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 2: might have missed. My goodness, man, the way to break 235 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 2: that down where you got DeVante Wyatt lined up as 236 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 2: a five tech edge, seven tech you know edge, and 237 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 2: then you have you know, all these plethora of defenders 238 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 2: lined up every where. It was just everything was in 239 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 2: fluid sinc motion, and Warren Brinson never stopped moving his feet. 240 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,439 Speaker 2: He just kept charging through the middle and he ends 241 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 2: up driving up some of that contact there with JJ 242 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 2: McCarthy and Isaiah McDuffie also on a blitz you know, 243 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 2: was able to finish that play. It just it was 244 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 2: so beautiful to watch. And for Green Bay, they were leaking, 245 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 2: you know, for rushing yards in the first half, eighty 246 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 2: six yards between Mason and Jones. Those guys had a 247 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 2: combined negative three yards in the second half. The only 248 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 2: rushing yards the Vikings had were off of JJ McCarthy scrambles. 249 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 2: Now you could say part of that being okay, well, 250 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 2: the Vikings kind of got away from what they were 251 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 2: doing well, But realistically, once they fell into seventeen to six, 252 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 2: then they were having to sort of get out of 253 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 2: their game plan, which I think honestly was, let's just 254 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 2: try to run those two as much as we can. 255 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 2: See what kind of opportunities happened with the passing game 256 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 2: from there. When JJ McCarthy had to drop back and 257 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:54,599 Speaker 2: he got into third and long situations, it did not 258 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 2: end well for Minnesota. And what I really liked about 259 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 2: the defensive performance three straight three and out after the turnover, 260 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:05,559 Speaker 2: the giveaway, and then it was followed by two interceptions, 261 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,599 Speaker 2: McDuffie's first career interception and then Evan Williams putting the 262 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 2: icing on the cake. You wrote about it on Saturday. 263 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 2: Micah Parsons has been the closer for this defense and 264 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 2: he was again. But my goodness, the setup men, the holds, everything, Yeah, 265 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 2: I mean, it was incredible to watch it all come together. 266 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a heck of a catch by McDuffie 267 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: on his interception. I'll give him credit for that as well. 268 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: And Rashan Gary coming around on the edge and getting 269 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: a little piece of the ball as McCarthy was throwing that, 270 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: so that threw off the whole trajectory of the pass 271 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: and McDuffie was able to make the diving catch Evan 272 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: Williams interception later on the bad overthrow. Unfortunately, find we 273 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: found out on Monday. JJ McCarthy was probably concussed at 274 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: the time he threw the second interception. If you look 275 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: at the film the two plays leading up to the 276 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: second interception, he scrambled and took a hit when he 277 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 1: went down, and then he was also knocked down in 278 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: the pocket when he threw a pass on the next play. 279 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: Those plays did not look good for for JJ McCarthy 280 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: and is probably where he sustained the head injury and 281 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 1: then he threw the second interception. But the Packers defense 282 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: just completely overwhelmed Minnesota in the second half, and it 283 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: speaks to when we talk about having the multi score lead, 284 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: putting the other team in that position, it speaks to 285 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: how big the red zone stop was in the first half, 286 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: because because if the Vikings get if the Vikings even 287 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: if they decide to just kick the field goal there. 288 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: I think Kevin O'Connell decided he went for it there 289 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: on fourth and one because even though he had failed 290 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: on third and one, he went forward on fourth and 291 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: one because he decided, well, we're probably not going to 292 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: beat the Packers that lambeau Field by kicking field goals, right, 293 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: which is you know which you know, you can understand that, 294 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: you can understand that decision, and the Packers getting the 295 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: stop there allowing no points on that drive. That's what's 296 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: set up being able to then have the bigger lead 297 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: in the second half and go from there. We do 298 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: need to turn the page to the line. If you're 299 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: ready to do that. The game is coming up here 300 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: very quickly. But before we do that, we'll pay some 301 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 1: bills and hear from our sponsors. Serious XMNFL Radio delivers 302 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: hard hitting analysis and up to the minute NFL news 303 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: that true football fanatics need. Twenty four to seven, three 304 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: sixty five. 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I haven't. 316 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: I've lost count now of how many times I've covered 317 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,359 Speaker 1: Packers Lions in Detroit on thanks. 318 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 2: My third actually okay, I think it was thirteen two 319 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 2: years ago, and now this one. 320 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: Okay, and I've been at home, and I believe I 321 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: covered three before that, oh seven, nine and eleven, So 322 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: so yeah, this is would be up to seven? Would 323 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: this be my seventh? Yeah? 324 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 2: Wow? 325 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: To ask you and then and it will be the 326 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: third consecutive Thanksgiving game for the Packers, having played at 327 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: Detroit two years ago and then hosting a Thanksgiving game 328 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: last year. But here's where we are, West The Packers 329 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 1: are seven to three and one, just behind the eight 330 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: and three Chicago Bears in the NFC North. The Detroit 331 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: Lions are right on the Packers heels at seven and four. 332 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: They are coming off of a wild kind of shootout 333 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: type overtime win against the New York Giants. The Lions 334 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: tied the game at the right at the end of 335 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: regulation with a long fifty eight to fifty nine yard 336 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: field goal by Baits, and then Jamiir Gibbs first play 337 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,400 Speaker 1: from scrimmage in overtime goes sixty nine yards for a touchdown, 338 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: and that's what wins it for Detroit. The Lions have 339 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:12,959 Speaker 1: been you know, they've been up and down this season. 340 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 1: There's no there's no two ways about it. This is 341 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 1: a team that only lost two games all regular season 342 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: last year. They've lost four and they were on the 343 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 1: verge of losing number five on Sunday. But this is 344 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: kind of their bread and butter, right. They know they 345 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 1: play at home on Thanksgiving every year. They know the 346 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: stakes of the game. The crowd is going to be there. 347 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: This is not one of those road games where you're 348 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 1: gonna see a lot of Green Bay Packer fans in 349 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 1: the stands because this is the game the Detroit fans 350 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 1: always come out for big challenge here for green Bay. 351 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:47,719 Speaker 2: I'll be honest with you, Mike, I really have had 352 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 2: a hard time making sense of the Lions this season. 353 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 2: As much as fans won to talk about green Bay 354 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 2: and sort of the ups and downs and the inconsistency, 355 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 2: I think has been the big buzzword. The Lions have 356 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:03,120 Speaker 2: kind of been on that similar track specifically offensively. You know, 357 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 2: There's been times where Jamiir Gibbs and this running game 358 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:11,919 Speaker 2: look absolutely unstoppable. There's been times where I thought Jared 359 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 2: Goff has played like an MVP. Last week a'm and 360 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 2: Ross Saint Brown was incredible. But then you go back 361 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 2: two weeks ago against Philadelphia, it looked like offensively they 362 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 2: couldn't do a single thing right right and Goff completed 363 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,439 Speaker 2: was like fourteen to thirty four passes something like that. 364 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 1: It was well below fifty the game. 365 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 2: They've been done a little bit of everything. But you 366 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 2: know what that is, Mike. It makes them dangerous and 367 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 2: they're super talented. They play well at home. I will 368 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 2: be interested to see how they handle back to back 369 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 2: games on their turf in that field. I mean, that 370 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:44,679 Speaker 2: is a punishing thing to do, regardless of playing at 371 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 2: Ford Field, just in general, playing twice in four days 372 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 2: on a turf field is not easy. So we'll be 373 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 2: interested to see how they look. But I mean they 374 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 2: they're right up there. And if the Green Bay Packers 375 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,159 Speaker 2: are going to make a claim this season to be 376 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 2: a Super Bowl contender, to be one of the NFL, 377 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 2: he's a lead. These are the type of matchups you 378 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 2: have to go through. They took care of business against 379 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 2: the Vikings, and they did so in a handling manner, 380 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 2: something that we all talked about. We wanted to see 381 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 2: them sort of give it, just dominate another team, right, 382 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 2: not have it down to the final minute, final two 383 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 2: minutes of a game, really have this thing in hand. 384 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 2: They did that against Minnesota. Well, now you're going to 385 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 2: be facing a team that is looking more complete, but 386 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 2: at the same time also had to go through a gritty, 387 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 2: down to the wire game with the Giants, just like 388 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 2: the Packers did. So just very interested to watch this one. 389 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 2: It's going to be really fascinating. 390 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you mentioned the inconsistencies on offense they've gone 391 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: through the transition. They lose Ben Johnson obviously, their offensive 392 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: coordinator goes to coach the Bears. John Morton takes over 393 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 1: as offensive coordinator. A few weeks ago, Dan Campbell takes 394 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: the play calling from Morton, and he's the one calling 395 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: the plays the head coach now on offense. There's been 396 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: some ups and downs on the defense though as well, 397 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 1: because when you look at I mean, the Lions defense 398 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 1: was really, really tough against the Philadelphia Eagles in Philadelphia, 399 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 1: a tough place to play. The Lions were not able 400 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: to win that game, but their defense looked incredibly stout. 401 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 1: Then they come back seven days later, they're playing at 402 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 1: home against a two win Giants team and they give 403 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:16,479 Speaker 1: up five hundred plus yards. They're on the field for 404 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 1: seventy seven plays, which could definitely factor into this one. 405 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 1: On a short week, the Lions defense had seventy seven 406 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 1: snaps on Sunday, the Packers defense only had forty four, 407 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 1: So that'll be something to watch this Thursday's game unfolds. 408 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: But yet at the same time, you go, well, but 409 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 1: this is a defense that has Aiden Hutchinson and it 410 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: has you know, Kirby Joseph, and I know Kirby Joseph's 411 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:39,880 Speaker 1: on the injury report, right now, but you know, you know, 412 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 1: the talent is there. They got a Lee McNeil back 413 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 1: in the middle of that defensive line, which is which 414 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 1: is a big piece for them. So I'm just gonna 415 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: throw it out to you right away. Keys to victory 416 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: here for green Bay. What do the Packers have to 417 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: do to come out on top? 418 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 2: Well, they have to stop Gibbs in no disrespect, I 419 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 2: mean David Montgomery too, although has been more of the 420 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 2: home run threat this season. And I feel like, if 421 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 2: you go back to that first matchup, what did Green 422 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 2: Bay do really well at its play, at their play 423 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:12,719 Speaker 2: you know its places. It dominated the trenches, right, the 424 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 2: Packers defensive front imposed their will against the Lions. Afterwards, 425 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 2: Micah Parson's talking about that matchup with Penny Sool how 426 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 2: he's like, you're gonna be my new rival, right, just 427 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 2: Likewayne Johnson was his rival with the Eagles, and sure 428 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 2: he had a really good game against School. So I 429 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 2: think being able to contain Gibbs in the home run 430 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 2: threat he provides that is the It's kind of similar 431 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,439 Speaker 2: to what the thing is with Saquon right with with 432 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 2: the Eagles, It's like he can beat you on one 433 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 2: or two plays and that could be the game. Yep, 434 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 2: Gibbs has that same factor because if you allow him 435 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 2: to make this a third and short game, that's when 436 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 2: amanas Saint Brown becomes really dangerous. Now they don't have 437 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 2: Samula Porter, they lose one of their big, you know, 438 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 2: needle movers there at tight end due to the back surgery. 439 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, both of these teams losing big, big weapons at 440 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,640 Speaker 1: tight end were huge parts of their offense, with Laporte 441 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 1: on one side, Tucker Craft on the other. 442 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, and the Lions defense. Somebody had asked me about 443 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 2: this an inbox and what I thought about him, and 444 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 2: the thing is is that, yeah, they've been inconsistent at times, 445 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 2: but statistically they are better than they were last year. 446 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 2: The difference is that the bench doesn't go very deep. 447 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 2: They kind of are what they are as far as 448 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 2: their starters are concerned, and if they're all out there 449 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 2: and they're all healthy, probably one of the better units 450 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 2: in the league. I think Muhammad is a really intriguing 451 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 2: pass rusher. He's been a nice compliment this season to Hutchinson, 452 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 2: and I love their linebackers with Derek Barnes and obviously 453 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 2: Jack Campbell, a couple of years back, Campbell and Gibbs. 454 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 2: That was two draft picks that kind of raised everybody's 455 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 2: eyebrows and they've been sort of the cornerstones for what 456 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 2: Detroit's been building here. So it's not going to be 457 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 2: an easy matchup. But if Green Bay can manage to 458 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 2: win the ground game, especially, that would help. If Josh 459 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 2: Jacobs is back in the fold, that is I feel 460 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 2: like the most true path to victory in this one. 461 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:55,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, the one thing I would say that's the caveat 462 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 1: to the Giants and what they did offensively with the 463 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: five hundred plus yards and all the points that they 464 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: put up against the Lions. They did run two trick 465 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: plays for touchdowns, and the Lions clearly just weren't prepared 466 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: for Jamis Winston and the Giants to come out with 467 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 1: all the trickeration and whatnot in order, and they were 468 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:14,439 Speaker 1: able to score twice. I mean, I don't know if 469 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: I've ever seen a team score twice on trick plays 470 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: and then lose the game. But the Giants managed to, 471 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: and then their defensive coordinator got fired on Monday, So 472 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: there's that. I don't want to make this, you know me. 473 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 1: I don't like to oversimplify things. But in this day 474 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 1: and age of the you know of the sound bites 475 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 1: and the quippie quotes. To me, this game comes down 476 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 1: to tackle Jumior Gibbs and Blockaden Hutchinson. Those are the 477 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,439 Speaker 1: two guys who can give you a long day on 478 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: either side of the ball, right and if the Packers 479 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 1: can somehow just contain the impact that those two guys 480 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,640 Speaker 1: are going to have. I really like Green Bay's chances 481 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 1: in this game. But as you said, with Gibbs, you 482 00:23:56,400 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: know he's Jamiir. Gibbs has become as big a home 483 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: run hitter as there is at running back in the 484 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,679 Speaker 1: NFL right now. He's up there with Barkley, He's up 485 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: there with Jonathan Taylor of the Colts, a guy who 486 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: can take at the distance at any moment. In baseball, 487 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: you can intentionally walk the home run hitter when you 488 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 1: want to and not have to deal with him for 489 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: a couple of more innings. It doesn't work that way 490 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: with running backs in the NFL. You have to tackle him, 491 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,679 Speaker 1: you have to contain him. He's going to get the ball, 492 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 1: He's going to get it a lot. He has really 493 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: taken over in terms of the touches the one two 494 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: punch with David Montgomery. Montgomery's still doing his thing, but 495 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: he doesn't get the ball as often as Gibbs does. 496 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 1: Gibbs is a much, much bigger part of this offense now. 497 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 1: And on the other side, the Packers completely neutralized Hutchinson 498 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 1: in Week one, but that was his first game back 499 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: from the long layoff and the really bad injury that 500 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 1: he had last season. Hutchinson is looking a lot more 501 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 1: like the Aiden Hutchinson that was on his way to 502 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: potentially Defensive Player of the Year last year before he 503 00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: got hurt, and the Packers they have to new him 504 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: again the best they can. 505 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, one thing I want to add too that I 506 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,439 Speaker 2: think it really bodes well for Green Bay. They have 507 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 2: to have a better performance against the run. But one 508 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 2: thing that's going to be very different than this game 509 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 2: than it was against Minnesota is you're going to see 510 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,679 Speaker 2: more base defense. It's just the way you have to 511 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 2: match up with the lines, especially on early downs. And 512 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 2: by and large, the Packers rested. When you look at 513 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 2: their base I mean Colby Wooden, his snap counts were down. 514 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 2: Nazir Stacko has played three snaps. You look at you know, 515 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 2: kings Lanningbari. He was able to kind of have some 516 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 2: time off. They should be relatively fresh. In addition to 517 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 2: the fact that again we'll have to see what all means, 518 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 2: the Packers estimated that Kway Walker would have been returning 519 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,679 Speaker 2: in limited capacity if they would have practiced on Monday. 520 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 2: That's big after he didn't practice at all last week, 521 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 2: potentially having him available and if not, then you'll go 522 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 2: with Isaiah McDuffie. But that you go back to that 523 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 2: first game, Mike. It's the way they played in the 524 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,439 Speaker 2: defensive front, and it's the way the linebackers attacked the 525 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 2: way that Walker, Cooper and when he was out there, 526 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:01,679 Speaker 2: Isaiah McDuffie got after gibbson Montgomery, both of those guys 527 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,640 Speaker 2: being neutralized. I want to say they kept him under 528 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 2: a hundred yards despite having somewhere around thirty carries. You 529 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 2: do that again, you're gonna have a chance. 530 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, And you really like the way the Packers' linebackers 531 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,199 Speaker 1: are playing that whole group of four. I know Walker 532 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: didn't play in this last game, but Kway Walker, Edrin Cooper, 533 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 1: ISAA mcduffee, Tyron Hopper when he gets in there. What 534 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: that entire group is doing has been really impressive. The 535 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 1: other thing we need to mention on defense, Keishawn Nixon 536 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: exited the Minnesota game with a shoulder stinger. Did not 537 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 1: return to the game was estimated as they did not 538 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: participate as far as the injury report the practice estimation. 539 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 1: On Monday, Kamal Haddn't stepped in got his first defensive 540 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: action of the season. Young guy who was a six 541 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 1: round draft pick of the Kansas City Chiefs last year. 542 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,120 Speaker 1: He didn't make it in Kansas City. The Packers signed 543 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,880 Speaker 1: him to the practice squad. Spent all year last year 544 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: on the practice squad, maybe got one or two elevations 545 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: for game day, but then he's been on the active 546 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:57,679 Speaker 1: roster this year. He made the team coming out of 547 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:01,120 Speaker 1: training camp, but he hasn't played and suddenly he got 548 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 1: thrown into action and he very well could have a 549 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 1: big role in this game against the Lions. It was 550 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 1: good to see what he was able to do and 551 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 1: sort of getting his feet wet against the Vikings. This 552 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: becomes a whole nother challenge now playing the Detroit Lions 553 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: on the road on Thanksgiving in a much much bigger game. 554 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 2: You can see why and it's such a small sample size, 555 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 2: but watching a little bit of his clips in his 556 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 2: film from that game against the Vikings, he plays with 557 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 2: the physicality that Jeff Haffley likes with his cornerbacks. Right, Yeah, 558 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,360 Speaker 2: there's the one play he was not happy about. It 559 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,160 Speaker 2: looked like he probably got held on it. I remember 560 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 2: watching it as it played out. That side judge was 561 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 2: not calling anything in that game, So what does he 562 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 2: do on the next play? He literally does an illegal 563 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 2: hands of the face and pie face is justin Jefferson 564 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,360 Speaker 2: during his jam at the line of scrimmage. It goes 565 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 2: on call too, So I mean there's an edginess that 566 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 2: he plays with. There's a confidence and a swagger that 567 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 2: he plays with. But certainly this is a much different 568 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 2: challenge if he has called upon now one. I also 569 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 2: mention Nate Hobbs was estimated as a limited participant on 570 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 2: Monday as well. What will it all mean, Basil, I 571 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 2: don't know, but the Packers could have him in the 572 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 2: cards as well, which would be really good if you 573 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 2: don't have Nixon, who was estimated as a DMP because 574 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 2: of the next stinger. 575 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,199 Speaker 1: So and even just from a depth standpoint, to have 576 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,120 Speaker 1: another option there as well, because because next up would 577 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: be Bowl Melting at cornerback, and like hadden't he actually 578 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 1: hasn't played on defense this season. If Hobbs is actually 579 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 1: available on Thursday as another option, even if maybe Hadden 580 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 1: would be would take those snaps if Nixon can't play, 581 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 1: but just having another guy as in the depth equation 582 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:30,919 Speaker 1: would certainly be helpful. 583 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 2: It's fun talking to Had in the locker room after 584 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 2: the game too, because he mentioned he actually went up 585 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,679 Speaker 2: to Xavier McKinney before the game. Obviously he doesn't want 586 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 2: Keshawn Nixon getting hurt, but he told Zaver, He's like, 587 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 2: I'm gonna get my first NFL tackle today. He ended 588 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 2: up getting four of them. I believe it was, but 589 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 2: just predicted it and it happened. And unfortunately when Nixon 590 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 2: went out, he said, I just it was almost instincts. 591 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 2: He's like he saw he was not instantaneously getting up. 592 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 2: He runs out on the field and held his own 593 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 2: And also a tip of the cap to Carryington Valentine, 594 00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 2: who has gone from being that next guy up to 595 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 2: once again, like it just seems like it's worked out 596 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 2: every single year he's been in the NFL. The second 597 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 2: half of the season. 598 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, there he is number twenty four, is on the rise. 599 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: One other game. 600 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 2: I just wanted to thirty seven. 601 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 1: Did you catch that? 602 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 2: I almost said thirty seven, and that was like, well 603 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 2: he is twenty four now right, and then you finished it. 604 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: He's number twenty four. One other game I want to 605 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 1: get your thoughts on. And then we got to go. 606 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 1: So Black Friday, which has become now another NFL tradition, 607 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 1: a game the day after Thanksgiving. It's the Bears at 608 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 1: the Eagles. Now, the Philadelphia Eagles all close games. Have 609 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 1: beaten the Vikings, the Packers, and the Lions. Now this 610 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 1: is their last NFC North opponent. The Eagles get the 611 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: Bears in Philadelphia. The Bears are eight and three, sitting 612 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 1: on top of the NFC North. There's gona be a 613 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 1: lot of eyeballs on this game, West and a lot 614 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 1: of people around the NFL knowing that the Bears don't 615 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 1: have that strength of victory in their schedule right in 616 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: terms of the teams they've beaten. It's like, okay, here 617 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 1: you are, Chicago, go out, go out and prove it. 618 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 1: And the Eagles are coming off of an absolutely atrocious loss, 619 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 1: blowing a twenty one to nothing lead in Dallas, they 620 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: don't score for the last forty minutes of the game 621 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 1: and they lose twenty four to twenty one to the 622 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 1: Cowboys on a walk off field goal by Brandon Aubrey. 623 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: This is a big one Bears against the Eagles Black Friday. 624 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 1: It's going to have major implications all across the NFC 625 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 1: in terms of the playoff picture. 626 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 2: This is the measuring stick game for Chicago. I was 627 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 2: talking as recently as last Thursday about how they haven't 628 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 2: really had like that big quality victory yet, something that 629 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 2: really jumps off the page, that tells you they're not 630 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 2: just a team that's beating who's in front of them, 631 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 2: but someone who can really be trifled with in the NFL. 632 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 2: Much like Detroit, they hung in there, they won a gritty, 633 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 2: close game. At the end, they found a way to 634 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 2: kind of claw themselves forward. But now you're going up 635 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 2: against one of the top teams from not only the 636 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 2: NFC but the National Football League. And on the same token, 637 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 2: a matchup now for the Eagles who have kind of 638 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 2: a gut check be after they came up short. So 639 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 2: very interesting chess match that's going to play out. I 640 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:10,959 Speaker 2: was looking at the schedule for this week, it's very 641 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 2: quizzical to me, like and the Black Friday thing is 642 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 2: not going away. We've also seen the quality of those 643 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 2: games kind of rise up here. 644 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, over the last year or so, no doubt. 645 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 2: But it's all on these two games, like these four 646 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 2: games coming up, and it seems like then Sunday night 647 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 2: Monday Night. I can't believe none of those games got 648 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 2: Are they not allowed to flex in week thirteen? I 649 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 2: don't know how that? 650 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 1: I I yeah, I'm not. I'm not sure. 651 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 2: Did you look at what this rest of the schedules 652 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 2: like for No. 653 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 1: I actually didn't look. I've been so focused on just 654 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 1: Thursday and Friday with the three top teams in the 655 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 1: NFC North are all going to be are all going 656 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 1: to have played by the time we're eating our turkey 657 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: leftovers on Friday eveningight. 658 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 2: So well, after all the trip to fan has worked 659 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 2: its way through your system. Over the weekend, you'll get 660 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 2: to watch the Denver Broncos take on the Washington Commanders 661 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 2: in Sunday Night Football and then Monday Night football. If 662 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 2: you have any turkey sandwiches left, you might wane have 663 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 2: already have eaten them. Right before this game, so you 664 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 2: fall asleep. The York Giants and the New England Patriots 665 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 2: and a battle of two and ten versus ten and 666 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 2: two teams. Ouch, So all the eggs are in the 667 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 2: first two day baskets. Yeah, it seems like with the 668 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 2: Thursday Night, the Thursday games for Thanksgiving and then obviously 669 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 2: the Black Friday games. 670 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 1: And from the Packers' perspective, by the time Friday Night 671 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: rolls around, the Packers could be anywhere from third place 672 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: in the NFC North all the way to first place 673 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: in the NFC North. That could fall anywhere in there. 674 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 1: So we'll see what happens. 675 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 2: At the end of the weekend. When you talk about 676 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 2: the entire NFC top to bottom, you could be anywhere. 677 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of things could be shifting around. We're 678 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 1: getting to that time of year. But we will call 679 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 1: it a wrap on this edition of Packers Unscripted' be 680 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 1: sure to continue following all of our coverage of the team, 681 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 1: and we will have all of the coverage of the 682 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving Day game from Detroit on Packers dot com for 683 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 1: wes I am Mike. Thank you for tuning in. Everybody, 684 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: Happy Thanksgiving and we will see you next time time