WEBVTT - S4E15: Jenny Slate and the Flight to Varennes 0:00:00.960 --> 0:00:02.960 Everyone says like I could never join a cult, like 0:00:03.000 --> 0:00:05.520 I would never fall for that, in say, I'm too you. 0:00:07.280 --> 0:00:07.600 Would. 0:00:07.800 --> 0:00:11.879 I really love friendly groups. I love cooking. 0:00:12.400 --> 0:00:14.319 I love it when people are like trying to help 0:00:14.360 --> 0:00:17.079 each other actualize their dreams. And I like it when 0:00:17.200 --> 0:00:19.600 people like are dedicated to each other. And a lot 0:00:19.600 --> 0:00:22.520 of times cults are like non violent, except I don't 0:00:22.600 --> 0:00:24.760 like having to be naked in a group of people, 0:00:24.840 --> 0:00:27.400 and I don't like having to do like oral sex 0:00:27.440 --> 0:00:28.480 to like the head of the cults. 0:00:29.240 --> 0:00:32.159 That is, that's called bylaws. 0:00:32.640 --> 0:00:48.680 There's usually some guy, ladies and gentlemen. 0:00:48.760 --> 0:00:51.879 Welcome to SNAPO, the show about history's greatest screw ups. 0:00:51.920 --> 0:00:56.200 I'm at Helms, and more specifically, this is a show 0:00:56.280 --> 0:00:59.680 where we look at mishaps from history and wonder, oh, 0:00:59.720 --> 0:01:02.680 what what does this say about humanity? And I always 0:01:02.680 --> 0:01:06.280 bring along a very exciting guest. Today I'm joined by 0:01:06.360 --> 0:01:08.759 one of my dear friends. She's an actress, a writer, 0:01:08.840 --> 0:01:12.840 a comedian. She's been in so many incredible shows and 0:01:12.920 --> 0:01:16.080 movies like Its Borderline Annoying, just to name a few. 0:01:16.680 --> 0:01:21.120 Obvious child Zootopia Gifted Everything everywhere, all at once, and 0:01:21.319 --> 0:01:24.080 Emmy nominee for Dying for Sex with Michelle Williams, an 0:01:24.200 --> 0:01:26.400 Oscar nominee for Marcel Michelle. 0:01:26.600 --> 0:01:29.200 She's the author of two fabulous. 0:01:28.640 --> 0:01:33.880 Books, Little Weirds and Life Form, and she recently launched 0:01:33.920 --> 0:01:38.880 her own podcast called I Need You Guys with Gabe 0:01:38.959 --> 0:01:44.840 Leadman and Max Silvestri. Please welcome, be Amazing. Jenny Slate, Hi, Hi, 0:01:45.080 --> 0:01:49.560 ed Hello. We were neighbors for a short time here 0:01:49.600 --> 0:01:51.960 in Los Angeles. I've known you her for a long 0:01:51.960 --> 0:01:55.080 long time, but then at some point in that you 0:01:55.200 --> 0:01:58.280 also were our neighbor, and my family began to call 0:01:58.400 --> 0:02:01.240 U Kramer because because of your wacky interests. 0:02:02.400 --> 0:02:04.400 And also because it was like there wasn't a lot 0:02:04.480 --> 0:02:07.000 keeping me out, you know, like Kramer's always kind of 0:02:07.400 --> 0:02:10.920 busting through the door with some sort of really interesting concept. 0:02:10.960 --> 0:02:13.600 I'm not sure I had those interesting concepts, but I 0:02:13.680 --> 0:02:16.720 was coming through the door with big, you know, big 0:02:16.880 --> 0:02:20.720 energy in my hair and really coming over a lot. 0:02:21.760 --> 0:02:25.440 And it was a full open door policy for Kram 0:02:25.520 --> 0:02:27.720 or Slate to just come on in whenever she wanted. 0:02:27.760 --> 0:02:28.720 I missed those days. 0:02:28.760 --> 0:02:31.480 I do too, I really do, and I will say 0:02:32.000 --> 0:02:34.240 that I feel that we're making up for it. As 0:02:34.280 --> 0:02:36.800 we were talking about earlier, but the fact that we 0:02:36.919 --> 0:02:40.160 now have become people who celebrate Thanksgiving together, not in 0:02:40.480 --> 0:02:43.200 Los Angeles at all, but it's just like something we 0:02:43.240 --> 0:02:45.960 do and it's really I love it so much. 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:47.320 I just love it. 0:02:47.639 --> 0:02:51.280 Yeah, me too, I'm very grateful for that. Yeah. Well, 0:02:51.280 --> 0:02:55.360 we won't invite the world into our too deeply into 0:02:55.360 --> 0:02:59.959 our private lives. But I'm so excited for your podcast 0:03:00.520 --> 0:03:03.480 with Gabe and Max, who I also know and a door. Yes, 0:03:03.520 --> 0:03:06.720 obviously it's a very crowded space now. I'm now in 0:03:06.760 --> 0:03:10.320 the fourth season of Snafu. I'm like trying to box 0:03:10.360 --> 0:03:13.520 out everyone I can from also joining the podcast space 0:03:13.560 --> 0:03:16.760 because we need all the listeners we can get. So 0:03:17.280 --> 0:03:20.880 what are you doing? You're horning in on this format. 0:03:21.919 --> 0:03:24.480 But also congratulations and I'm excited for you. 0:03:24.520 --> 0:03:25.480 And what is it. 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:28.280 We we have a joke that it's like it's only 0:03:28.320 --> 0:03:32.360 it took us only sixteen years to finally do a podcast. 0:03:32.639 --> 0:03:34.320 It just took us so long. 0:03:34.520 --> 0:03:37.320 Like every other comedian in the world has had a 0:03:37.360 --> 0:03:40.040 podcast for many years now, and we just like, I 0:03:40.080 --> 0:03:41.680 don't know, what can I say. We like to chill, 0:03:41.960 --> 0:03:44.200 but Gabe and Max and I I don't know, fifteen 0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:47.640 years ago really started a stand up show in New York. 0:03:48.040 --> 0:03:50.360 First it was in Manhattan at Rafifi. 0:03:50.000 --> 0:03:52.720 In the East Village, and then it was in Williamsburg, 0:03:53.360 --> 0:03:57.120 and we finally got our act together to do what 0:03:57.160 --> 0:03:59.280 we kind of do on stage just on a podcast, 0:03:59.320 --> 0:04:02.400 which is that like on in our stand up show. 0:04:02.400 --> 0:04:04.280 We always started the stand up show with a Q 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:07.480 and A like before anyone had any questions about our material. 0:04:07.920 --> 0:04:11.080 We would just ask random questions and it was really fun. 0:04:11.600 --> 0:04:16.400 And so now basically our podcast is like it's kind 0:04:16.400 --> 0:04:20.000 of like making our group chat live. It's called I 0:04:20.000 --> 0:04:21.800 Need You guys, because we don't live in the same 0:04:21.839 --> 0:04:24.000 places anymore and we still talk every day and we 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:26.440 need each other. So we'll bring questions to each other 0:04:26.440 --> 0:04:29.680 about our lives and then we have a friend. Usually 0:04:29.720 --> 0:04:34.279 it's a comedian come and answer, like an etiquette etiquette etiquette. 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:35.520 It's like, I'm not reading copy. 0:04:35.560 --> 0:04:39.120 I don't need to, you know, miss miss misspeak, like 0:04:39.160 --> 0:04:39.679 a question. 0:04:39.520 --> 0:04:41.840 About etiquette at a quite edi. 0:04:41.880 --> 0:04:45.839 Quite so, just so our listeners know this podcast is out, 0:04:46.240 --> 0:04:49.640 it is you can you can get into it right now. 0:04:49.839 --> 0:04:50.200 Yeah. 0:04:50.440 --> 0:04:54.040 It's really it's kind of like sitting at a dinner 0:04:54.080 --> 0:04:54.880 table with friends. 0:04:54.920 --> 0:04:57.400 It's just a nice, easy, funny easy listen. 0:04:57.600 --> 0:04:59.120 All right, are you ready to snap woo? 0:04:59.120 --> 0:04:59.880 I'm ready to snaph. 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:01.599 Let's do it. We're going to jump into this. 0:05:01.600 --> 0:05:03.960 We're going to adventure all the way back to seventeen 0:05:04.400 --> 0:05:08.400 ninety one. It was a tough year to be a 0:05:08.440 --> 0:05:13.720 French guy named Louis, especially if you were Louis the sixteenth, 0:05:14.520 --> 0:05:20.240 the French King. So today's topic is the French Revolution. 0:05:20.440 --> 0:05:22.800 Now I'd love to cover the whole thing, but that 0:05:22.839 --> 0:05:26.560 would take at least ten podcasts and like a gallon 0:05:26.600 --> 0:05:31.640 of espresso and a PhD in guillotine technology. So instead, 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:34.320 we're going to just zoom in on this one really 0:05:34.440 --> 0:05:39.760 tiny but absolutely bonkers episode within the French Revolution, the 0:05:39.920 --> 0:05:45.680 Royal escape attempt that went spectacularly wrong. It's sneaky, it 0:05:45.760 --> 0:05:47.880 is suspenseful, and it turned out to be a massive 0:05:47.920 --> 0:05:50.160 turning point in the entire revolution. 0:05:50.600 --> 0:05:56.080 This is the flight to Vahren. Are you ready? 0:05:56.240 --> 0:05:56.400 Hell? 0:05:56.520 --> 0:05:57.120 Yeah? Man? 0:05:57.200 --> 0:06:01.480 This is so cool. Yeah, expecting to learn so much. 0:06:01.480 --> 0:06:02.880 And you know, I love French stuff. 0:06:03.120 --> 0:06:04.680 What is it you're like about French stuff? 0:06:04.720 --> 0:06:06.760 I love all the jewels that I just stole from 0:06:06.760 --> 0:06:09.360 the Louver. I love the crown. I got. 0:06:09.720 --> 0:06:11.640 I super bummed that I dropped out of the crown, 0:06:11.680 --> 0:06:13.240 but I love like the necklaces and stuff. 0:06:17.839 --> 0:06:20.039 All Right, A quick crash course on the French Revolution 0:06:20.120 --> 0:06:22.760 before we get to our main event here. It all 0:06:22.760 --> 0:06:26.080 started because France was basically broke. The peasants were starving, 0:06:26.120 --> 0:06:29.279 and the monarchy was still out there throwing lavish parties. 0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:31.919 Picture an episode of Succession where they all go to 0:06:31.960 --> 0:06:35.640 a rave and powdered wigs. So the French people were 0:06:35.680 --> 0:06:39.440 just finally like enough, this is enough, and they stormed 0:06:39.480 --> 0:06:43.039 the bast deal and they decided maybe government shouldn't be 0:06:43.160 --> 0:06:48.600 run exclusively by rich douchebags. 0:06:48.240 --> 0:06:49.479 Good good policy. 0:06:49.600 --> 0:06:52.480 I feel like that have any rich douchebags like historically 0:06:52.560 --> 0:06:54.360 have they have any of them nailed it? 0:06:55.760 --> 0:06:56.800 Not that I can. 0:06:56.880 --> 0:06:59.599 I can currently think of. No one's coming to mind 0:06:59.680 --> 0:07:00.000 right now. 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:05.480 Oh it's rough. It's rough out there for the populations 0:07:05.560 --> 0:07:06.240 run by rich. 0:07:06.240 --> 0:07:07.520 Duchemann, it's not great. 0:07:08.080 --> 0:07:09.000 We'll cut to a couple of. 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:12.160 Years later and now, and the revolutionaries have taken power 0:07:12.240 --> 0:07:16.560 and King Louis the sixteenth, Marie Antoinette and their kids 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:21.240 are basically grounded. They're under house arrest, in the Tuiiri 0:07:21.760 --> 0:07:26.000 Palace in the heart of Paris, and the revolutionaries are 0:07:26.240 --> 0:07:30.360 frantically trying to reinvent their entire system of government, which 0:07:30.400 --> 0:07:33.040 is no small task. Marie Antoinette, of course famous for 0:07:33.080 --> 0:07:38.880 the phrase let them eat cake, darn it, which is 0:07:38.920 --> 0:07:41.560 a very rude thing to say when people are starving 0:07:41.600 --> 0:07:43.320 and they can't get can't get bread. 0:07:43.600 --> 0:07:45.160 I know, but I don't think she said that. 0:07:45.400 --> 0:07:46.040 She didn't know. 0:07:46.600 --> 0:07:48.960 I read this book that says she did not say that. 0:07:49.280 --> 0:07:50.640 You know, she didn't say that. 0:07:51.280 --> 0:07:52.320 She didn't say it. 0:07:52.360 --> 0:07:53.600 Yo, she didn't say that. 0:07:53.840 --> 0:07:55.880 If you're gonna come at me like that, like, she 0:07:55.920 --> 0:07:58.640 did not say that, like check check your fat. 0:07:58.680 --> 0:07:59.400 I'm so sorry. 0:07:59.440 --> 0:08:01.240 I was going to all smarty pants and be like, 0:08:01.440 --> 0:08:03.800 but she did it, and you jumped on that. 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:06.040 And kudos to you for knowing that. 0:08:06.360 --> 0:08:10.240 It originally appeared in Jean Jacques Rousseau's Confessions, which he 0:08:10.280 --> 0:08:13.320 wrote in seventeen sixty six. Marie Antoinette was ten years 0:08:13.360 --> 0:08:18.400 old and she was living in Austria, so obviously, so 0:08:18.480 --> 0:08:22.360 it's early seventeen ninety one. This is before the revolution 0:08:22.520 --> 0:08:26.960 had gone full just like guillotine chopping everybody's heads off, 0:08:28.080 --> 0:08:31.720 and France is now experimenting with this brand new idea, 0:08:32.400 --> 0:08:37.120 the constitutional monarchy, where the king will share power with 0:08:37.880 --> 0:08:43.200 the population. And spoiler alert, King Louis did not like this. 0:08:43.440 --> 0:08:46.640 He was not a fan. The people were rising up 0:08:46.679 --> 0:08:49.000 and he was feeling very threatened by all of this. 0:08:49.520 --> 0:08:52.959 So by June of that year, the revolutionaries were finishing 0:08:53.040 --> 0:08:56.839 up their shiny new constitution codifying all of this, and 0:08:57.000 --> 0:09:00.120 King Louis, ever the people pleaser, was out there pretending 0:09:00.160 --> 0:09:02.720 to be totally chill about it. He was like, yeah, 0:09:02.840 --> 0:09:06.880 let's have parliament run things. I'll just be like a figurehead, 0:09:06.880 --> 0:09:10.080 a decorative monarch, a bit of a like just a 0:09:10.160 --> 0:09:14.560 human chandelier, if you will, hanging over over France. And this, 0:09:14.600 --> 0:09:19.480 of course is right after the actual American Revolution, and 0:09:19.559 --> 0:09:21.679 it does it just raises I don't know, it raises 0:09:21.720 --> 0:09:25.520 this interesting philosophical question for me, Like, oppressed people very 0:09:25.559 --> 0:09:27.800 often rise up at a certain they reach a breaking 0:09:27.800 --> 0:09:31.360 point and they rise up, and then they either choose, 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:34.920 as the sort of American Revolution and the French revolution, 0:09:35.120 --> 0:09:38.440 that option was democracy or like a representative government like 0:09:38.520 --> 0:09:44.120 down with these bully kings, or the other option is 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:46.800 an oppressed population will sort of like rise up and 0:09:47.000 --> 0:09:51.000 elevate a strong man who is essentially a cam of sorts, 0:09:51.720 --> 0:09:54.480 And why do you think that happens? I think the 0:09:54.559 --> 0:09:57.680 strong man version is actually more common, and it speaks 0:09:57.720 --> 0:09:59.559 to like something in the human condition or we just 0:09:59.600 --> 0:09:59.960 as free. 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:03.880 I'm too messy? Is it too complicated or too scary? 0:10:04.200 --> 0:10:06.000 You know what I think it is? I mean not 0:10:06.120 --> 0:10:07.640 to be like so self. 0:10:07.400 --> 0:10:09.400 Serious, but I actually think it has to do with 0:10:09.400 --> 0:10:13.360 like fear and trauma. The American Revolution, It's like a 0:10:13.400 --> 0:10:16.560 lot of those people were like wealthy landowners who were 0:10:16.559 --> 0:10:19.679 like we don't want King George, you know, like we 0:10:19.720 --> 0:10:22.439 want to do our own thing. They weren't really like 0:10:22.760 --> 0:10:26.040 we the people rising up, like they were like wealthy, 0:10:26.200 --> 0:10:29.720 you know, and and and then they they took like 0:10:29.760 --> 0:10:32.240 their education and their wealth and they like made you know, 0:10:32.320 --> 0:10:35.920 a democracy. But like if you're just like traumatized and 0:10:36.000 --> 0:10:39.679 frightened and you you're starving, like of course you're going 0:10:39.760 --> 0:10:42.920 to be like bada and just like replace a bad 0:10:43.000 --> 0:10:45.880 dad with what seems like a good dad, like you know, 0:10:46.040 --> 0:10:47.600 just one thing out of time, let's just get this 0:10:47.640 --> 0:10:50.240 guy or you know, I guess occasionally a lady, but 0:10:50.320 --> 0:10:52.840 it's kind of all it's like always the man, get 0:10:52.880 --> 0:10:55.760 this guy out of here, and like, I think, I 0:10:55.800 --> 0:10:58.600 think new Dad is actually going to be like nice Dad. 0:10:58.800 --> 0:11:01.320 You know, I don't know. That's that's my take on it. 0:11:01.360 --> 0:11:04.600 But you know, I'm a professional clown, not a historian. 0:11:04.800 --> 0:11:05.880 It's just how I feel. 0:11:06.240 --> 0:11:10.079 I think that's a very very sharp take. Well, well 0:11:10.120 --> 0:11:11.440 said King Louis. 0:11:11.520 --> 0:11:14.880 At this point, he's he's kind of kind of freaking out, 0:11:15.080 --> 0:11:18.600 and he's kind of stuck in the middle, pretending everything's 0:11:18.640 --> 0:11:22.080 fine and pretending like he has value and has power, 0:11:22.400 --> 0:11:26.080 but he's he's seeing it all slip away. So he 0:11:26.480 --> 0:11:29.599 and and he's feeling threatened. Also, he's feeling like his 0:11:29.960 --> 0:11:32.120 life and his family are very much in danger now 0:11:32.240 --> 0:11:35.079 in this in the middle of Paris. So he hatches 0:11:35.120 --> 0:11:37.200 this plan. They're going to slip out of Paris. They're 0:11:37.200 --> 0:11:39.720 going to meet up with loyal troops near the border 0:11:40.040 --> 0:11:46.760 and stage a royal comeback, but first they must escape Paris. 0:11:47.080 --> 0:11:49.520 And thus begins the flight to Varen. 0:11:49.920 --> 0:11:52.760 Wow, Okay, can I just ask, like, during this time 0:11:52.760 --> 0:11:54.960 when he's stuck in, when they're stuck in there, is 0:11:54.960 --> 0:11:58.520 he still you know, having like three glazed gooses a day, 0:11:59.160 --> 0:12:00.880 you know what I mean, Like he's still having those 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:07.040 like crazy elaborate meals and wearing the stuff, just like 0:12:07.240 --> 0:12:09.480 doing all that stuff. Is he still just like all 0:12:09.520 --> 0:12:13.480 procedures are still those like three hour baths or whatever. 0:12:13.800 --> 0:12:19.280 You know, Yeah, a three hour bath with three glazed gooses. Yeah, 0:12:19.360 --> 0:12:22.120 my sense of it, And keep in mind, I'm very 0:12:22.200 --> 0:12:26.200 much falling into the amateur historian category, but my sense 0:12:26.240 --> 0:12:30.480 of it is that this is a scaled back version 0:12:30.520 --> 0:12:34.080 of that. So in Versailles it was a mess, Like 0:12:34.200 --> 0:12:37.920 it was so decadent, the parties, all of the insanity 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:42.040 leading up to this, right, there had been protest march 0:12:42.120 --> 0:12:46.320 where they actually grabbed the royal family and marched them 0:12:46.360 --> 0:12:50.080 to Paris. And this was a very humbling experience. And 0:12:50.120 --> 0:12:52.680 so yes, they are still in a palace, they're still 0:12:52.800 --> 0:12:56.800 technically royalty. They're still trying to hash out this shared 0:12:57.120 --> 0:13:01.440 leadership idea, the constitutional monarchy, so they're still acting like 0:13:01.559 --> 0:13:03.840 a king and queen. And so I do think there 0:13:03.880 --> 0:13:07.479 are glazed gooses in the mix, and there are crowns 0:13:07.520 --> 0:13:10.720 and fancy attire, but it's not quite what it was 0:13:11.360 --> 0:13:16.120 very recently in Versailles. They've been humbled and they're now scared. 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:17.040 Okay, got it. 0:13:17.200 --> 0:13:20.520 So the plan they hatch is quite bold. It's like 0:13:20.600 --> 0:13:25.360 total cloak and dagger stuff. Louis was planned to be 0:13:25.520 --> 0:13:29.800 disguised as a valet, Marie as a governess, and they 0:13:29.840 --> 0:13:33.400 would they were posing as the entourage of this fake 0:13:33.520 --> 0:13:36.920 Russian baron and they would slip out of Paris in 0:13:37.040 --> 0:13:39.800 the dark of night, then of course link up with 0:13:39.840 --> 0:13:43.560 their loyal troops and spark a royal comeback. This is 0:13:43.559 --> 0:13:46.960 in theory a flawless plan, but in reality it turned 0:13:46.960 --> 0:13:51.240 into a train wreck or as we will soon see, 0:13:51.480 --> 0:13:55.200 a carriage wreck of sorts. This elaborate plan, it's very 0:13:55.280 --> 0:13:57.320 like I said, it's cloak and daggery. It starts to 0:13:57.360 --> 0:14:01.600 fall apart immediately. The palace made notice the family packing, 0:14:01.679 --> 0:14:04.439 and then it starts asking weird questions like what's going on. 0:14:05.120 --> 0:14:07.960 They have that detachment from reality where they still feel 0:14:08.000 --> 0:14:11.120 like they have to bring like crazy amounts of royal 0:14:11.240 --> 0:14:12.720 luggage and. 0:14:13.120 --> 0:14:16.280 Oh my god, that situation where you're like so rich, 0:14:16.360 --> 0:14:19.640 you don't know anything. It's like, just get out of here, man, Yeah, 0:14:19.760 --> 0:14:22.040 just don't pack a trunk. You don't need your like 0:14:22.240 --> 0:14:25.400 silver bugle or whatever, and like all your pantaloons, like, 0:14:25.480 --> 0:14:26.080 just get out. 0:14:26.720 --> 0:14:28.880 I mean, the silver bugle might come in handy. 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:30.560 You don't get a bed pad, you don't get it. 0:14:30.680 --> 0:14:32.320 What do they call it? A little the thing that 0:14:33.160 --> 0:14:33.560 you don't get. 0:14:34.440 --> 0:14:36.440 Yeah, there you go. You would have been such a 0:14:36.480 --> 0:14:38.000 better Marie Antoinette. 0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:38.880 Oh my god. 0:14:39.280 --> 0:14:41.400 This delays them like to a day or two. 0:14:41.480 --> 0:14:44.280 And there are as part of the plan, of course, 0:14:44.320 --> 0:14:47.560 there are loyal soldiers, you know, soldiers that are still 0:14:47.560 --> 0:14:50.320 loyal to the king that are supposed to meet up 0:14:50.360 --> 0:14:53.320 with them along the route, and they've been stationed in 0:14:53.440 --> 0:14:58.200 these villages. But when the king isn't showing up, they're 0:14:58.240 --> 0:15:02.680 just these soldiers in these towns, and that's raising questions. 0:15:02.720 --> 0:15:06.640 The peasantry is getting real antsy and like what are 0:15:06.640 --> 0:15:09.080 all these soldiers doing here? This does not feel chill. 0:15:09.440 --> 0:15:11.560 It kind of feels like the National Guard like marching 0:15:11.560 --> 0:15:15.000 into like a normal city, like what people People are 0:15:15.080 --> 0:15:17.560 excited and it upsets people. 0:15:19.080 --> 0:15:22.160 That would be really disconcerting and wrong and feel like 0:15:22.240 --> 0:15:24.360 maybe it's illegal or waiting for a judge to. 0:15:24.360 --> 0:15:28.320 Say I mean yeah, so that's the same vibe going 0:15:28.360 --> 0:15:32.040 on in in these villages, and that wasn't the only delay. 0:15:32.200 --> 0:15:36.360 So it's finally time to ski daddle, and now the 0:15:36.400 --> 0:15:40.280 commander of the Palace guard has decided it's the perfect 0:15:40.280 --> 0:15:42.880 time for like an hour's long chit chat with the king. 0:15:43.320 --> 0:15:47.600 Fun fact, the commander of the guards was none other. 0:15:47.600 --> 0:15:51.640 Than the Marquis de la Fayette, who. 0:15:51.920 --> 0:15:54.240 Played a huge role in the American Revolution and now 0:15:54.240 --> 0:15:55.400 he's back home. 0:15:55.760 --> 0:15:56.920 Yeah this is from Hamilton. 0:15:59.080 --> 0:16:02.080 Oh my gosh, I haven't actually seen Hamilton, but I 0:16:02.080 --> 0:16:03.840 guess I should know that just because of like history. 0:16:03.880 --> 0:16:09.240 I don't. It's I don't. I just I don't. I 0:16:09.280 --> 0:16:10.560 don't go to a lot of plays. 0:16:11.640 --> 0:16:13.440 This is over. This is over. 0:16:14.200 --> 0:16:16.760 I know, I know, I like, I don't know why 0:16:16.760 --> 0:16:19.680 I admit it that. I just I swear to God, 0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:22.080 like I haven't. I don't think I've ever been to 0:16:22.160 --> 0:16:22.760 a Broadway. 0:16:23.240 --> 0:16:26.080 Are you serious? I'm taking it. 0:16:26.160 --> 0:16:28.360 Yeah. I was supposed to go see Waiting for GOODO 0:16:28.600 --> 0:16:30.920 like two weeks ago, and our daughter got sick. 0:16:30.800 --> 0:16:31.320 So we didn't. 0:16:31.640 --> 0:16:33.320 So you're still waiting to see Waiting for GOODO. 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:36.840 I don't know if you're still him. 0:16:37.040 --> 0:16:37.640 I don't. 0:16:38.040 --> 0:16:39.720 I didn't know if they found him. 0:16:39.800 --> 0:16:41.800 But yeah, no, I just like for a while when 0:16:41.800 --> 0:16:43.160 I lived in New York and I was a student. 0:16:43.280 --> 0:16:45.239 I didn't have enough, like I don't have the extra. 0:16:45.000 --> 0:16:47.240 Money to go to Broadway, and then time. 0:16:47.760 --> 0:16:51.560 I just gave up, and then I don't know anyway. 0:16:51.680 --> 0:16:56.080 The Marquisa Lafayette is played masterfully by Dovey Diggs. 0:16:56.280 --> 0:16:56.760 Oh cool. 0:16:57.120 --> 0:17:00.800 The Marquisa Lafyette is a fascinating he deserves his own podcast. 0:17:01.000 --> 0:17:04.800 He like basically went to America and was like, hey, 0:17:04.840 --> 0:17:07.160 George Washington, I'm here to help. I just think your 0:17:07.200 --> 0:17:09.960 whole cause is awesome. He was a major force in 0:17:09.960 --> 0:17:13.080 the American Revolution. Then he went back to France and 0:17:13.119 --> 0:17:16.120 now he's sympathetic with the revolutionaries in France, and he's 0:17:16.119 --> 0:17:18.800 been put in charge of keeping an eye on King Louis, 0:17:18.960 --> 0:17:22.800 And of course they have a very professional but fraught 0:17:22.960 --> 0:17:26.919 relationship because he's guarding him essentially from the mobs, but 0:17:27.080 --> 0:17:31.359 also from escaping or from so anyway, they have a 0:17:31.400 --> 0:17:35.920 long chat, but it delays the escape even further. Now, 0:17:36.280 --> 0:17:41.240 despite all the delays, King Louis is still rare and 0:17:41.320 --> 0:17:46.320 to go, and they sneak out down a back staircase 0:17:46.359 --> 0:17:50.600 of the palace and here's where just the sort of 0:17:50.640 --> 0:17:52.359 like cartoon mistape. 0:17:52.680 --> 0:17:53.880 He missed us. 0:17:53.680 --> 0:17:57.000 Begin like this is where it becomes like Keystone cops. 0:17:57.040 --> 0:17:58.480 Now. 0:17:59.280 --> 0:18:03.879 So the original had called for fast carriages, right, they 0:18:03.880 --> 0:18:06.280 would get into like a little clump of carriages and 0:18:06.400 --> 0:18:09.240 be on their way. But this did not sit well 0:18:09.280 --> 0:18:12.520 with Marie Antoinette. She wanted to keep the family together, 0:18:13.320 --> 0:18:16.800 which is understandable. If they got separated it could get scary. 0:18:17.080 --> 0:18:23.560 But unfortunately this also changed the entire journey because they 0:18:23.600 --> 0:18:27.040 wound up in this enormous carriage. So the coach itself 0:18:27.320 --> 0:18:31.680 was a loaner from Axel von Farson. The younger who 0:18:31.880 --> 0:18:35.879 happened to be this is debated, but many think he 0:18:36.000 --> 0:18:40.840 was actually Marie Antoinette's dashing Swedish lover. What is documented 0:18:40.920 --> 0:18:43.320 is he sent her tons of flowers over the years. 0:18:43.400 --> 0:18:45.399 We have an artistic rendering of Axle here. Let's take 0:18:45.400 --> 0:18:46.760 a gander at this this guy. 0:18:46.840 --> 0:18:52.120 Oh wow, look at those peepers. Yeah right, I mean 0:18:54.200 --> 0:18:59.399 what not sure? I'm not sure what I think. 0:18:59.440 --> 0:19:02.880 The person that painted his picture did a pretty weird job. 0:19:02.960 --> 0:19:05.000 It looks like he looks like you know when sometimes 0:19:05.080 --> 0:19:08.639 people wear those George Washington masks, like like they have 0:19:08.880 --> 0:19:12.040 George Washington. You have your own face on the bottom, 0:19:12.040 --> 0:19:14.040 and then you like put George Washington over your like 0:19:14.840 --> 0:19:16.959 you know where a raccoon mask would be. 0:19:17.000 --> 0:19:18.280 Those look like two different faces. 0:19:18.600 --> 0:19:19.600 Yeah, no, you're right. 0:19:19.760 --> 0:19:22.920 But what I do love about this he's so smug, 0:19:23.240 --> 0:19:27.320 Like he's like so smarmy and like you can get 0:19:27.600 --> 0:19:29.840 like the sex appeal of someone like that. 0:19:30.720 --> 0:19:32.640 Oh my gosh, you could. 0:19:32.440 --> 0:19:33.800 Get lost in those eyebrows. 0:19:34.240 --> 0:19:40.560 That's a look of placid, perverted, deliberate entitlement. 0:19:41.160 --> 0:19:44.600 Yeah, he just does not care. 0:19:49.160 --> 0:19:52.960 This carriage was massive and extremely conspicuous. One historian called 0:19:52.960 --> 0:19:59.800 the paint job quite eye catching, yellow and black or golden, 0:20:00.400 --> 0:20:05.440 and there were three bodyguards also dressed in jaunty clothes. Basically, 0:20:05.440 --> 0:20:09.200 in today's terms, this would be like a limousine painted 0:20:09.200 --> 0:20:12.520 like a bumblebee. This is kind of a picture. On 0:20:12.560 --> 0:20:15.359 top of the pain job, that the carriage itself was 0:20:15.400 --> 0:20:19.440 so heavy that it required frequent stops to change horses. 0:20:19.840 --> 0:20:23.520 And this is this is where King Louis got himself 0:20:23.560 --> 0:20:27.840 into even more trouble because King Louie believed that the 0:20:27.880 --> 0:20:31.520 people of Paris obviously were against him, the mobs were rallying, 0:20:31.840 --> 0:20:35.320 but he still thought that the country folk that people 0:20:35.359 --> 0:20:40.280 out in the countryside were royalists and supported him, so 0:20:40.320 --> 0:20:43.000 he would actually get out and start chatting people up 0:20:43.560 --> 0:20:47.120 and just kind of like being totally transparent. 0:20:46.640 --> 0:20:51.600 Like was up, everybody, it's your king, high five. Oh 0:20:51.240 --> 0:20:53.400 this was not smart. 0:20:54.880 --> 0:20:57.920 And even when they were rolling along, apparently he would 0:20:57.960 --> 0:20:59.720 like hang his head out the carriage window and just 0:20:59.760 --> 0:21:04.000 be like, what's up, it's me your fabulous dream. He 0:21:04.119 --> 0:21:06.760 kind of felt like he was the Beatles in the sixties. 0:21:06.760 --> 0:21:09.080 And I'm just I just I don't know if this 0:21:09.320 --> 0:21:13.120 was savvy. This feels like ego getting in the way 0:21:13.160 --> 0:21:14.959 of good judgment. 0:21:15.119 --> 0:21:17.840 USh, what a dumb dumb like his whoever were his 0:21:17.960 --> 0:21:20.680 like devoted handlers must have just been like, oh my god, 0:21:21.000 --> 0:21:23.520 just try to keep him inside the thing. Yeah, Like, 0:21:23.680 --> 0:21:26.439 kid doesn't get it. He doesn't really get it, you know. 0:21:27.040 --> 0:21:30.679