WEBVTT - Executive Disorder: White House Weekly #11

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<v Speaker 1>Cool media.

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<v Speaker 2>This is it could happen here. Executive Disorder, our weekly

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<v Speaker 2>newscast covering what's happening in the White House, the crumbling world,

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<v Speaker 2>and what it means for you. I'm Garrison Davis today.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm joined by Mia Wong, James Stout, and Robert Evans.

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<v Speaker 2>This week we're covering the week of April third to

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<v Speaker 2>April ninth. We have we have recovered from the Liberation day,

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<v Speaker 2>fully liberated. Yeah, and now the economy is back to normal.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Yes, everything's really good. Everyone's four oh one k's

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<v Speaker 3>have been normal and stable and stable and stable. That's

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<v Speaker 3>what's important. Just line go up. The economy runs from stability.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean one of the things the line did was

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<v Speaker 3>go up. So yeah, lines, God, why should anyone complain? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, line's gone in a few different directions this week.

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<v Speaker 3>Among the different directions the line went up, was you

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<v Speaker 3>know a portion of that time?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, yeah, durrection that hasn't gone is left. I guess

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<v Speaker 4>which you know we're waiting for that one.

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<v Speaker 3>And related news, A dead cat can bounce. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know why they picked the cat for the dead animal

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<v Speaker 3>to bounce to refer to that stock market term, but.

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<v Speaker 4>I think this is a term that's new to Garrison,

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<v Speaker 4>just judging by the facial expression.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you don't know what that is. So basically, when

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<v Speaker 3>when a stock price for a company or whatever collapses

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<v Speaker 3>right there will generally be it will straight a line

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<v Speaker 3>down and then it will bump back up and it

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<v Speaker 3>will look like it's rallying. But this isn't generally a rally.

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<v Speaker 3>What it is is that when people like short a stock,

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<v Speaker 3>there's a point at which they have to like buy

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<v Speaker 3>back the share like shares, and that artificially inflates it

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<v Speaker 3>briefly before it then begins to decline again. So it's

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<v Speaker 3>not a real it's the result of how short selling

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<v Speaker 3>works that there has to be this thing that makes

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<v Speaker 3>it temporarily look like it's rallying, but that's really not

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<v Speaker 3>what's happening.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm familiar with this concept.

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<v Speaker 4>And they call it a dead cat. It's referred to

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<v Speaker 4>as a dead cat bounce.

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<v Speaker 5>Yere.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know why it's referred to as a dead

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<v Speaker 3>cat bounce, but it is.

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<v Speaker 6>Stockbro because are not normal people then why these these

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<v Speaker 6>are Wall Street guys. One of them has probably done

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<v Speaker 6>it like that's that's probably why it's called that, Like.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I've thrown a lot of corpses at a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of things and they don't really bounce.

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<v Speaker 2>Speaking of corpses, Robert, you have some exciting news on

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<v Speaker 2>the army.

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<v Speaker 4>To pronounce Col Garrison.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, Yes. The good news is the army is going

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<v Speaker 3>to be more lethal and efficient than ever before, which

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<v Speaker 3>President Trump announced while sitting in the White House next

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<v Speaker 3>to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin net and Yahoo, who had

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<v Speaker 3>to take roughly at twice the length of trip he

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<v Speaker 3>normally has to take to go here because so many

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<v Speaker 3>countries that he would normally fly over or stop in

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<v Speaker 3>have arrest warrants out for him. For all of the

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<v Speaker 3>war cries. Oh, we love to see it, but you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's not about the journey. It's about you know, the

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<v Speaker 3>people you journey too. And Netanyahoo met with Trump, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>someone whom he clearly feels very safe, and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I dare I say loving with and the two of

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<v Speaker 3>them shared the most intimate bond that two elderly men

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<v Speaker 3>who have committed war crimes can share, which is announcing

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<v Speaker 3>a record budget for the United States military of one

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<v Speaker 3>trillion dollars. Well, I should say, Trump stated it would

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<v Speaker 3>be in the vicinity of one trillion dollars. Now does

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<v Speaker 3>that mean possibly that very little is changing about the

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<v Speaker 3>military budget. Yes, it does, and we'll get to that

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<v Speaker 3>in a second. Hag Seth, our Secretary of Defense, made

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<v Speaker 3>a post on Twitter right after saying Trump is rebuilding

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<v Speaker 3>our military and fast. He also really bragged about that

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<v Speaker 3>trillion dollar amount and said, ps, we intend to spend

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<v Speaker 3>every tax payer dollar wisely on lethality and readiness. Now

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<v Speaker 3>here's the thing. Trillion dollars shitload of money. Current amount

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<v Speaker 3>of funding allocated to national defense programs eight hundred and

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<v Speaker 3>ninety two billion dollars, so trillion dollars about a ten

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<v Speaker 3>percent bump right for you know, the national defense programs.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's actually unclear the way in which he phrased

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<v Speaker 3>things and the way in which we like talk about

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<v Speaker 3>the funding for national security, this could mean that basically

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<v Speaker 3>the military will have pretty much the same, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>something of an increase but not a mass, not really

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<v Speaker 3>a significant difference from what it has now, and there

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<v Speaker 3>will be more money into other defense related programs. So

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<v Speaker 3>this is not like as massive a thing as it

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<v Speaker 3>might necessarily sound like. I think one thing that's sort

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<v Speaker 3>of significant here is like how this comports with the

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<v Speaker 3>way a lot of the folks and what we'll call

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<v Speaker 3>the shit had left had talked about where there was

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<v Speaker 3>this discussion that Trump's actually going to be you know,

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<v Speaker 3>bad for imperialism and the war machine. And you know,

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<v Speaker 3>there was even talk as of a couple of months

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<v Speaker 3>ago that they were going to like half the Pentagon budget,

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<v Speaker 3>Like you know, you know, all these whatever else happens,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, it's worth it if the military budget comes

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<v Speaker 3>down in this imperial juggernaut of hell gets finally neutered,

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<v Speaker 3>and just all of those people are always wrong. They

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<v Speaker 3>were always going to just make the army bigger. They

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<v Speaker 3>were always going to put more money in events. They

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<v Speaker 3>were always going to put more money into the hands

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<v Speaker 3>of defense contractors. Like anyone who knows anything about these

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<v Speaker 3>people or about how Republicans have worked knew that was

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<v Speaker 3>going to happen. There was never any chance that they

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<v Speaker 3>were going to cut the actual amount of money. Now

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<v Speaker 3>they're probably going to cut the number of people in

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<v Speaker 3>the military because despite what heck Seth said, there's a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of evidence that a shitload of this is going

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<v Speaker 3>to go towards modernization, and in fact, armed services each

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<v Speaker 3>branch is being our arm services are all being asked

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<v Speaker 3>to cut about eight percent of their individual budgets in

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<v Speaker 3>order to put money into modernization efforts, which obviously any

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<v Speaker 3>military needs to regularly modernize different systems. But this is

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<v Speaker 3>also a thing where if your country is run entirely

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<v Speaker 3>by grifters and conman trying to shotgun money to their

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<v Speaker 3>political supporters, have a lot of money in different defense companies.

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<v Speaker 3>What this means to me is you are probably going

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<v Speaker 3>to see them continue to trim numbers of actual troops

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<v Speaker 3>and put more money into bullshit that gets a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of money to contractors. Yeah, that's that is my expectation.

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<v Speaker 3>That is what I see happening. More than anything here,

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<v Speaker 3>we'll see. But I think a lot of this additional

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<v Speaker 3>money is going to go towards buying shit that may

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<v Speaker 3>or may not be useful. But the primary purpose of

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<v Speaker 3>putting the money into that shit is because somebody who

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<v Speaker 3>is somebody gets a veig. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, if we look at fascism as a concept too,

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<v Speaker 4>it kind of it has this troubled relationship with modernity,

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<v Speaker 4>but one of the things it likes to do is

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<v Speaker 4>flex it's new little weapon systems and toys, and we're

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<v Speaker 4>going to see some guys posing with some weapon systems

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<v Speaker 4>that probably never get used, right, like probably some AI

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<v Speaker 4>targeting shit stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, it's Rallery does that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Well, we got to find some way to reallocate

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<v Speaker 2>the alleged fifty billion dollars in DOGE cuts, which is

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<v Speaker 2>certainly a fake number. Absolutely, we might as well send

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<v Speaker 2>over two hundred billion more to the Defense Department.

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<v Speaker 3>Based on early IRS filings, there's something like half a

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<v Speaker 3>trillion dollars that we might be losing in tax income

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<v Speaker 3>this year. So you know, net, I don't think we're

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<v Speaker 3>doing great. I should also know to hear a big

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<v Speaker 3>part of the money that they're going to get for

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<v Speaker 3>modernizations coming from cutting fifty to sixty thousand civilian jobs,

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<v Speaker 3>many of whom are veterans, but also just in terms

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<v Speaker 3>of like military readiness, guys like hag Seth, who's primarily

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<v Speaker 3>a push up dude, and people who don't know anything

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<v Speaker 3>about the military see it as like, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the military, you just want as many door kickers as

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<v Speaker 3>you possibly can, and you actually need very few of

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<v Speaker 3>those guys would need a lot of is guys that

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<v Speaker 3>can move things to different places and fix things when

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<v Speaker 3>they break, and do a lot of the paperwork that's

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<v Speaker 3>necessary to make both of those things possible, which is

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<v Speaker 3>why you need those jobs, and cutting a shitload of

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<v Speaker 3>them is not likely to increase readiness. It's also worth

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<v Speaker 3>noting that the US Army is looking at a forced

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<v Speaker 3>reduction of up to ninety thousand active duty soldiers. This

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<v Speaker 3>is based on an article from April fourth, which is

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<v Speaker 3>a significant reduction, and again like, we're not.

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<v Speaker 6>Is that real?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Why why are they doing a ninety percent reduction?

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<v Speaker 3>In part because it's very hard for them to find

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<v Speaker 3>new active duty soldiers. It is not easy to get

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<v Speaker 3>people to do this, and it is not the priority

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<v Speaker 3>of anybody in charge of anything to actually get more soldiers.

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<v Speaker 3>The priority is to put more money into systems AI

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<v Speaker 3>and all this shit, Like, I don't think they have

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<v Speaker 3>a vested interest in actually helping with that.

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<v Speaker 2>How are we going to take Greenland with drones? What

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<v Speaker 2>do we do it?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Probably? I mean there's not a lot of peace.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably, how we're going to do it?

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<v Speaker 3>There's not a lot of people in Greenland.

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<v Speaker 2>Garrison excited for the naval blockade of Greenland to yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>kick off at about two months.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's it's going to be great anyway. They're going

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<v Speaker 3>to make part of why I think they feel confident

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<v Speaker 3>trying to make you know, they're calling this making the

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<v Speaker 3>army smaller and more agile, is because Trump is doing

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<v Speaker 3>his best to make friends with Russia and we're certainly

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<v Speaker 3>not going to whatever happens with Taiwan, the US military

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<v Speaker 3>is not going to be involved.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we ain't going to go back for them.

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<v Speaker 8>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>His attitude is like what do we need this for?

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<v Speaker 3>We need an agile military that we can use to

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<v Speaker 3>fuck with Greenland and Panama. Like that's that's what we're

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<v Speaker 3>going to be doing, two very.

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<v Speaker 4>Similar biomes where like everything is very similar.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and there's a lot of people like you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the folks running Palenteer who have an increasing amount of

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<v Speaker 3>say in what happens to the military, and you know

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<v Speaker 3>what Trump does, who are basically advocating for, like we're

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<v Speaker 3>going to have this whole kill chain automated soon. We

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<v Speaker 3>barely need people. You can't trust people, you know how

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<v Speaker 3>untrustworthy your generals have proved. Donald Cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm excited for some more Arctic camo surpl us

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<v Speaker 2>to hit the mark at once. Yeah, Greenland situation is resolved.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm excited to be fucking around wondering who a drone's

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<v Speaker 4>going to kill next. That has been a really life

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<v Speaker 4>affirming experience for me, and I'm excited to have it

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<v Speaker 4>again soon.

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<v Speaker 3>It's going to be great.

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<v Speaker 4>Robbie, you mentioned the IRS and irs maybe maybe get

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<v Speaker 4>less money, So I got to talk a little bit

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<v Speaker 4>about the IRS. I guess let's let's start with like

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<v Speaker 4>a little summary of this week immigration news. This week

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<v Speaker 4>child Rachik, who is the person who runs libs of

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<v Speaker 4>TikTok yeah, joined Ice on a raid.

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<v Speaker 3>She is, shall we say, the Julius Striker of our

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<v Speaker 3>modern fashions.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, yeah, I guess you're right.

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<v Speaker 3>Damn sorry, I'm just no. I mean, like, I wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>joking about that. That's the most direct comparison that. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Sorry, I just took a moment to reflect on that,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's not a great thing to reflect on.

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<v Speaker 3>It's really not. Now. It doesn't make me feel good, yeah, No.

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<v Speaker 4>Other things that make me feel good are the sixteen

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<v Speaker 4>Minutes report, seventy five percent of people since Siko had

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<v Speaker 4>no criminal conviction, which seems to leave open the possibility

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<v Speaker 4>of there being a crime for which it would be

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<v Speaker 4>okay to be sent to a foreign goo lag with

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<v Speaker 4>no hope of return, which I don't believe is the case. Like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm very disappointed at any reporting which focuses on guilt,

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<v Speaker 4>as if one could ever be guilty of anything which

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<v Speaker 4>would make this justifiable, you can't. The government is also

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<v Speaker 4>soliciting for proposals this week to massively increase migrant detention,

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<v Speaker 4>which again is not surprising, right, we talked about this

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<v Speaker 4>last November, but it's also not great. But where I

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<v Speaker 4>want to focus today is on the IRS and the

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<v Speaker 4>Abdegogatia case we spoke about last week. So well, it's

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<v Speaker 4>see inter reporting that the IRS has said it will

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<v Speaker 4>hand over information of people who are subject to criminal

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<v Speaker 4>investigation to DHS or ICE right, ICE being under DHS.

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<v Speaker 3>They so they say they.

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<v Speaker 4>What happened here is that part of court filings and

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<v Speaker 4>memorandum of understanding between ICE and the IRS was released

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<v Speaker 4>in the MoU or in the court finding. Actually they

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<v Speaker 4>cite an offense of failure to depart the United States

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<v Speaker 4>after being ordered removed. So Essentially anyone who they're saying

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<v Speaker 4>like you have to go right, you know that they

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<v Speaker 4>could They could then ask for their tax return information.

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<v Speaker 4>Exactly what the IRS will disclose to ICE is covered

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<v Speaker 4>by a big black reaction in the court documents, so

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<v Speaker 4>we don't know that the entire emmaus submitted, but like

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<v Speaker 4>there's significant reactions in it, ICE has to hand One

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<v Speaker 4>thing that's not redacted is that ICE has to hand

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<v Speaker 4>over the person's name, address, and the crime of which

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<v Speaker 4>they're for which they're investigating, and it has to be

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<v Speaker 4>a non tax crime.

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<v Speaker 3>Not that that matter is Huguely.

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<v Speaker 4>This is more limited than a lot of people have feared,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's more limited than a lot of the reporting

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<v Speaker 4>I've seen. It's possible that there's something else going on.

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<v Speaker 4>I saw the acting director in ICE was going to

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<v Speaker 4>quit over this. I saw that this morning. But the

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<v Speaker 4>fact that they have to have their address suggests that

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<v Speaker 4>they couldn't locate them using the tax return form right,

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<v Speaker 4>which which is a good thing. It is one last

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<v Speaker 4>step towards fascuistrom. I guess I'm also aware of ICE

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<v Speaker 4>having memorandums of understanding with other agencies, to include HUD right,

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<v Speaker 4>housing and urban development. All of this is going to

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<v Speaker 4>reduce the amount that migrant communities engage with the federal

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<v Speaker 4>government to any degree. Right, Contrary to what you might

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<v Speaker 4>have heard undocumated to people do to pay their taxes,

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<v Speaker 4>it's actually relatively rare for them not to do that.

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<v Speaker 4>And this might change if the RS starts handing over

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<v Speaker 4>people's tax returned information to ICE right. Obviously, if HUD

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<v Speaker 4>starts handing over people's information, that's going to lead to

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<v Speaker 4>people not being as willing to take housing benefits, more

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<v Speaker 4>people landing up living on the street.

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<v Speaker 8>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>On the other hand, Houston City in Texas, for that,

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<v Speaker 4>you who an't familiar, have I Have I pronounced that right?

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<v Speaker 3>Robert Tehause, Yeah, I thought it was. I wasn't sure

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<v Speaker 3>of it. It was Houston.

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<v Speaker 9>Houston, Oh house.

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<v Speaker 3>Soon understood. It's a it's a place we just don't go.

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<v Speaker 3>That's that's that's how I refer to Houston. Okay, beautiful.

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<v Speaker 4>So this Texas No Man's landtown has turned over information

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<v Speaker 4>including addresses and license paids for people charged with driving

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<v Speaker 4>without a license, even though some of this under Texas

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<v Speaker 4>law is supposed to remain confidential.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's great.

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<v Speaker 4>They are also now making immigration detentions at regular traffic stops.

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<v Speaker 4>Some aware of one incident where a man was arrested

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<v Speaker 4>after being stopped for a cracked windscreen and he's now

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<v Speaker 4>an ICE detention, so that there was I presumably an

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<v Speaker 4>ICE warrant for this person that the Houston police then

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<v Speaker 4>acted upon.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, and this is this can just be racial profiling, right,

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<v Speaker 2>Like if they're going to pull someone over and then

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<v Speaker 2>send them to ICE, like they're just going to start

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<v Speaker 2>pulling over as many people that they don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>be in Houston.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Like we already know that police departments have a

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<v Speaker 4>tendency to pull over people who aren't white more often, right,

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<v Speaker 4>and then like if you give them this, that's just

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<v Speaker 4>going to exacerbate that further. Again, it's also going to

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<v Speaker 4>stop migrant communities interacting with the police in any way.

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<v Speaker 8>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>This obviously has look not a big police fan, but

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<v Speaker 4>like in cases like domestic file, right, sometimes people need

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<v Speaker 4>to go to the police to be safe, and they're

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<v Speaker 4>not going to do so they think that means they

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<v Speaker 4>or people they love will be deported and this will

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<v Speaker 4>have negative consequences, and specifically in cases like domestic violence,

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<v Speaker 4>and we know this. There is plenty of evidence for this. Nonetheless,

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<v Speaker 4>this is continuing anyway. What's also continuing is our obligation

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<v Speaker 4>to pivot to act, which we should do.

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<v Speaker 9>Now, Okay, we are back.

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<v Speaker 4>We're back, and it's time to talk about the Supreme Court.

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<v Speaker 3>Do we have to?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, yes, we do, Garython, because it's the biggest court.

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<v Speaker 4>It's the big one, and they've been crushing it all week,

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<v Speaker 4>just just sending down decisions. The two big ones, I

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<v Speaker 4>guess I want to talk about are a five to

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<v Speaker 4>four ruling that it was vacating Boseberg's trro Bosberg being

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<v Speaker 4>the judge who had intally told the United States government

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<v Speaker 4>that had to stop sending people to set court right.

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<v Speaker 4>And then the US had ignored Boseberg and done it anyway,

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<v Speaker 4>and then they had this whole court case about how

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<v Speaker 4>they hadn't ignored him in any way.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a secret.

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<v Speaker 4>Even though we're tweeting it, you can go back a

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<v Speaker 4>couple of eds and hear about that. In this decision,

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<v Speaker 4>the Court was unanimous in asserting that people removed under

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<v Speaker 4>the Alien Enemies Act do have a right to due process,

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<v Speaker 4>but that they have to bring a habeas petition. So

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<v Speaker 4>like the reason they vacated to tro was that the

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<v Speaker 4>case shouldn't have gone to Bosburg, right, that they should

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<v Speaker 4>have bought this Havieu's petition. In practice, that's going to

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<v Speaker 4>be very hard given the fact that many migrants, even

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<v Speaker 4>under the current system, even and the Biden, most migrants

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<v Speaker 4>wh didn't speak English didn't have access to legal representation.

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<v Speaker 4>So this ruling is still pretty bad. The only thing

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<v Speaker 4>that people in the court case wanted to stop was

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<v Speaker 4>their rendition to L salbadare right. It wasn't even like

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<v Speaker 4>opposed to other forms of removal, it was specific to

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<v Speaker 4>this El Salbador situation. The court also sort of cited

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<v Speaker 4>k crime all cases as precedent, which is a very different thing.

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<v Speaker 4>And it gives us very narrow ruling of the due

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<v Speaker 4>process available to migrants rate and it relies on my

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<v Speaker 4>having access to a legal team, which could be expensive

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<v Speaker 4>and complicated for them.

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<v Speaker 2>So this ruling allows Trump administration to send people to

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<v Speaker 2>El Salvador as as long as they have the quote

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<v Speaker 2>unquote right to do process, which is narrowly defined as

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<v Speaker 2>something that not many people will have access to anyway.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, yeah, well, summarized. Yeah, you would need to have

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<v Speaker 4>like a lawyer on retainer to file your habeas right

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<v Speaker 4>leg straight away.

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<v Speaker 2>So if that just doesn't get filed, then you are

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<v Speaker 2>basically in their view forfeiting your due process and they

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<v Speaker 2>can deport you anywhere.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, they can deport you anyway. Yeah, I guess you

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<v Speaker 4>have the right to appeal it, like by saying like

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to file this habeas petition, but most people

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<v Speaker 4>an't going to do that, so in practice that they

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<v Speaker 4>haven't explicitly ruled on this setcot thing. Right, the Aberigo

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<v Speaker 4>Garcia case, which is the other case, a Fourth Circuit

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<v Speaker 4>judge required the US to return Abergogarcia to the US,

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<v Speaker 4>and then Chief Justice Roberts on his own issued in

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<v Speaker 4>an administrative stay, so he is effectively telling them that

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<v Speaker 4>Fourth Circuit judge, you can't order them to have him

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<v Speaker 4>return right now. We need to take a time out.

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<v Speaker 4>We need everybody to get their evidence in order and

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<v Speaker 4>then bring that to us. So that case like remains ongoing.

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<v Speaker 4>Right in the brief for that case, the government referred

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<v Speaker 4>to Abligo Garcia as an enemy alien. But I don't

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<v Speaker 4>think MS thirteen is covered by the evocation of the

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<v Speaker 4>Alien Enemies Act. I think it was specific to trend

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<v Speaker 4>deer Ragua. And then they also claim that they removed

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<v Speaker 4>him under the Immigration Nationality Act, not the Alien Enemies Act.

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<v Speaker 4>So like, none of this, I guess is hugely surprising.

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<v Speaker 4>We're seeing this like sort of post hoc justification of

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<v Speaker 4>what they did, right, which is kind of how they operate.

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<v Speaker 4>Case still remains ongoing, so we're still we're still going

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<v Speaker 4>to hear that one, which presumably will reflect on the

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<v Speaker 4>constitutionality of sending people to said cord. But like the

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<v Speaker 4>fact that, yeah, they ruled the other case right, the

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<v Speaker 4>one that was five to four. It wasn't about whether

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<v Speaker 4>seid Cock was legal. It was about where the Bosberg

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<v Speaker 4>had the right to make a decision on this particular case.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's still not great. Like it looks like the

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<v Speaker 4>Supreme Court is doing everything it can to avoid a

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<v Speaker 4>face to face showdown with the executive branch because they

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<v Speaker 4>don't want to deal with the consequences of be ignoring them. Nope,

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<v Speaker 4>and like we said before, like maybe the only court

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<v Speaker 4>that they will listen to is a Supreme Court. Whether

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<v Speaker 4>the Supreme Court doesn't make them, then they won't. So

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<v Speaker 4>that's where we're at with that. Not great, not exactly

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<v Speaker 4>great at all. Well, do you know what is doing great?

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<v Speaker 4>The economy? And for more on that, I think it's

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<v Speaker 4>time for Tariff Talk with mia Wan.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait wait wait, Tariff Talk. Jazz Rocky Jazz, bart Lack

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<v Speaker 3>rocky jazz, rocky.

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<v Speaker 6>Jazz bo.

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<v Speaker 3>Ah, yeah, every day, every time we do it.

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<v Speaker 8>The only band that matters is the only band that matters.

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<v Speaker 8>The Narcissist Cookbook doing a very brief refrain from Rock

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<v Speaker 8>the Chasm, the worst clash song by a white margin.

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<v Speaker 4>The only clash song from hm plagar in Operation Desert Storm,

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<v Speaker 4>which major stach Strummer cry, a real catastrophe.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what is in a catastrophe?

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<v Speaker 9>The economy?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, how's it going?

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<v Speaker 6>So I just I just saw a wonderful chart where

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<v Speaker 6>someone was like, ah, this is this is one of

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<v Speaker 6>the eight best days the SMP has ever had, And

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<v Speaker 6>every single other one of those days is like nineteen

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<v Speaker 6>twenty nine, nineteen thirty one, age.

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<v Speaker 4>To Whooh, it's one of the best days. From Mount

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<v Speaker 4>Saint Helen's Equality. Yeah, yeah, it's so good.

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<v Speaker 3>So all right.

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<v Speaker 6>The teriff situation as of two forty three pm Pacific

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<v Speaker 6>time on April ninth, is that there is.

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<v Speaker 4>Mine going good. It's gotta be cool. Guys, don't worry

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<v Speaker 4>about it.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, So there isn't one hundred and twenty five percent

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<v Speaker 6>tariff on all goods from China?

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<v Speaker 9>Is that bad?

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<v Speaker 6>I uh, you know, there's a bit that I cut

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<v Speaker 6>here where I was gonna say about how like at

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<v Speaker 6>fifty four percent, I was like, we've entered the part

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<v Speaker 6>of the map where it just says here there'd be dragons,

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<v Speaker 6>and one hundred and twenty five percent there's not even

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<v Speaker 6>dragons there that they didn't even think to put that

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<v Speaker 6>on the map as an unknown region.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, this is Mia from the future. It is now Thursday.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the problems with attempting to do this episode

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<v Speaker 1>is that we are learning the teriff rate from in

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<v Speaker 1>real time. So it turns out that the actual tariff

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<v Speaker 1>right on China, as as clarified by by Donald Trump today,

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<v Speaker 1>is one hundred and forty five percent. And also it

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<v Speaker 1>has become clear that the twenty five percent turf tariffs

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<v Speaker 1>on both Mexico and Canada are also still in effect.

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<v Speaker 3>So yay. In medical terms, it means what happened to

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<v Speaker 3>the global economy is equivalent to you getting hit directly

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<v Speaker 3>in the spine by an F two fifty going forty

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<v Speaker 3>five miles an hour. That's that's that's what's happened to

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<v Speaker 3>the base of the global economy.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and I mean it's it is very funny that

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<v Speaker 6>like a lot of people have been focusing on the

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<v Speaker 6>bond stuff because you can just look at the tariff

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<v Speaker 6>numbers and it's like like, yeah, okay, seeing a one

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<v Speaker 6>hundred and twenty five percent tariff on all goods from

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<v Speaker 6>China and then looking at the bond markets to figure

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<v Speaker 6>out if that's bad or not is like like is

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<v Speaker 6>like walking outside into a blizzard and being like, whoa

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<v Speaker 6>my need the weather rather tell me if it's knowing, like,

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<v Speaker 6>what are we doing here?

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<v Speaker 1>What are we doing here?

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<v Speaker 3>The reason I'll explain, like briefly, treasury bonds are the

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<v Speaker 3>underpinning of every country, the entire global economy. Every single

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<v Speaker 3>country has a shitload of money in US treasury bonds

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<v Speaker 3>because they are the most reliable thing. And what a

0:23:16.800 --> 0:23:19.000
<v Speaker 3>treasury bond is is you give money to the US

0:23:19.119 --> 0:23:21.600
<v Speaker 3>government and they say, in a period of time, you

0:23:21.680 --> 0:23:23.320
<v Speaker 3>can take this out and it will have grown by

0:23:23.359 --> 0:23:28.280
<v Speaker 3>a set percentage. Because treasury bonds have been for the

0:23:28.400 --> 0:23:32.440
<v Speaker 3>last basically a century so incredibly stable. This is where

0:23:32.520 --> 0:23:34.879
<v Speaker 3>you put your money that you don't want to gamble,

0:23:34.960 --> 0:23:37.320
<v Speaker 3>so you have money that is in stocks and stuff

0:23:37.359 --> 0:23:39.320
<v Speaker 3>that can go up and down, but you also head

0:23:39.359 --> 0:23:41.320
<v Speaker 3>your bets by having a bunch of this. And you know,

0:23:41.600 --> 0:23:44.920
<v Speaker 3>generally treasury bonds are hopefully enough to about keep pace

0:23:45.000 --> 0:23:47.639
<v Speaker 3>with inflation or beat it by a little bit. But

0:23:48.440 --> 0:23:51.440
<v Speaker 3>usually the rate is not all that high because there's

0:23:51.480 --> 0:23:54.840
<v Speaker 3>a shitload of demand. People are always buying treasury bonds.

0:23:55.520 --> 0:23:58.280
<v Speaker 3>When the treasury bond rate, which is the percentage you

0:23:58.359 --> 0:24:01.400
<v Speaker 3>get back, raises, that may look good, right, they're like, wow,

0:24:01.440 --> 0:24:04.040
<v Speaker 3>you get five percent now on if you put money

0:24:04.080 --> 0:24:06.560
<v Speaker 3>into a into a thirty year TA bond. But what

0:24:06.680 --> 0:24:10.600
<v Speaker 3>that means is that everyone is selling their treasury bonds.

0:24:10.960 --> 0:24:13.399
<v Speaker 3>So demand is down and the rate is higher, and

0:24:13.480 --> 0:24:16.680
<v Speaker 3>everyone is selling them because entire countries at a time

0:24:16.800 --> 0:24:19.880
<v Speaker 3>are pulling their money out. Nations are pulling their money

0:24:19.880 --> 0:24:21.000
<v Speaker 3>out of the US economy.

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<v Speaker 6>It's great, yeah, and we are going to get more

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<v Speaker 6>into how throw administration wants to fuck with that later,

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<v Speaker 6>But first off, programming note, programming note. I am going

0:24:31.240 --> 0:24:33.320
<v Speaker 6>to be from this episode forward referring to all of

0:24:33.359 --> 0:24:36.919
<v Speaker 6>these as the turf tariffs, because fuck them and because

0:24:37.000 --> 0:24:39.720
<v Speaker 6>these tariffs are in a large part also about a

0:24:39.800 --> 0:24:41.879
<v Speaker 6>bunch of really weird fucking masculinity bullshit.

0:24:42.040 --> 0:24:43.840
<v Speaker 3>So God excited for that.

0:24:44.400 --> 0:24:46.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And when you make most of your election ads

0:24:46.359 --> 0:24:49.119
<v Speaker 2>being about yeah, trans people, and then and then and

0:24:49.160 --> 0:24:51.280
<v Speaker 2>then the economy goes to the toilet. This is this

0:24:51.480 --> 0:24:52.359
<v Speaker 2>is what was voted for.

0:24:52.680 --> 0:24:54.760
<v Speaker 6>Like, if if you wanted transphobia, this is what you wanted.

0:24:54.840 --> 0:24:56.640
<v Speaker 6>You want you wanted to lose your job, You wanted

0:24:56.680 --> 0:24:57.920
<v Speaker 6>everyone to lose their fucking hope.

0:24:57.920 --> 0:24:59.600
<v Speaker 3>Speaking at Tea Bonds, am.

0:24:59.560 --> 0:25:02.320
<v Speaker 2>I right, let's skip over that immediately.

0:25:02.720 --> 0:25:08.600
<v Speaker 3>No, no, no one law for him, go away? Okay, okay. So,

0:25:08.800 --> 0:25:10.680
<v Speaker 3>so the most the most chaotic.

0:25:10.400 --> 0:25:13.879
<v Speaker 6>Thing happening here, other than Robert randomly saying things, is

0:25:14.560 --> 0:25:20.200
<v Speaker 6>that nobody knows what the tariff situation is going to be,

0:25:20.680 --> 0:25:23.320
<v Speaker 6>just even just on Friday when you're listening to this,

0:25:23.640 --> 0:25:26.480
<v Speaker 6>right you, By the time you were listening to this,

0:25:26.600 --> 0:25:29.000
<v Speaker 6>there could be two hundred percent terriffs on Indonesia. There

0:25:29.040 --> 0:25:31.160
<v Speaker 6>could be four thousand percent terrorists in Vietnam.

0:25:31.520 --> 0:25:34.960
<v Speaker 3>We don't know. No, Trump could have dissolved the US

0:25:35.119 --> 0:25:38.480
<v Speaker 3>dollar and we're all using the fucking d whatever, like

0:25:38.680 --> 0:25:39.800
<v Speaker 3>I know, I don't.

0:25:39.600 --> 0:25:43.199
<v Speaker 6>Know, yeah, and like you know, so, so it's all

0:25:43.240 --> 0:25:45.680
<v Speaker 6>really unstable. We can talk about the other things that

0:25:45.720 --> 0:25:47.479
<v Speaker 6>are still in effect, so that there's a general ten

0:25:47.560 --> 0:25:51.840
<v Speaker 6>percent tariff on all countries except for China are just

0:25:51.880 --> 0:25:54.679
<v Speaker 6>supposed to have a general ten percent tariff. There's also

0:25:54.920 --> 0:25:59.480
<v Speaker 6>the per Megan Cassellos, a CNBC reporter, there are twenty

0:25:59.560 --> 0:26:02.600
<v Speaker 6>five percent tariffs on steel, aluminum.

0:26:02.200 --> 0:26:02.880
<v Speaker 3>And cars.

0:26:03.160 --> 0:26:06.480
<v Speaker 6>There's probably going to be more. He keeps talking about

0:26:07.000 --> 0:26:09.240
<v Speaker 6>more tariffs, and it's like, who knows where they're gonna happen,

0:26:09.359 --> 0:26:15.240
<v Speaker 6>like maybe pharmaceutical semiconductors. But the Liberation Day tariffs, turf

0:26:15.320 --> 0:26:17.480
<v Speaker 6>tariffs are currently on.

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<v Speaker 2>Hold for ninety days at least as of right now.

0:26:21.000 --> 0:26:21.160
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

0:26:21.240 --> 0:26:24.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and the and the quote unquote reciprocal tariffs have

0:26:24.480 --> 0:26:27.520
<v Speaker 2>been lowered to ten percent for me at least, it's

0:26:27.640 --> 0:26:30.600
<v Speaker 2>unclear as of recording. On Wednesday, Trump said that this

0:26:30.720 --> 0:26:32.840
<v Speaker 2>is a fact, this is in effect immediately. It's unclear

0:26:32.840 --> 0:26:35.200
<v Speaker 2>if those ten percent tariffs are also on hold for

0:26:35.359 --> 0:26:35.960
<v Speaker 2>ninety days.

0:26:36.119 --> 0:26:38.040
<v Speaker 6>No, I think the temper said ones are in effect

0:26:38.119 --> 0:26:40.120
<v Speaker 6>right now, but it's really hard to tell because he's

0:26:40.200 --> 0:26:40.840
<v Speaker 6>just saying shit.

0:26:41.040 --> 0:26:43.040
<v Speaker 2>And yes, it's very hard to tell, which is I

0:26:43.160 --> 0:26:46.240
<v Speaker 2>ain't saying it, he's truthing it, because yes, sorry, he is.

0:26:46.480 --> 0:26:48.920
<v Speaker 4>He is true social ing that this information that is

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<v Speaker 4>how we have to work out the global economic future.

0:26:52.000 --> 0:26:55.400
<v Speaker 4>It's based on posts. I'm true social Yeah, so so okay.

0:26:55.480 --> 0:26:56.920
<v Speaker 6>And one of the things, one of the things that's

0:26:56.920 --> 0:26:58.760
<v Speaker 6>been happening with with the turf tariffs is that like

0:26:59.560 --> 0:27:02.560
<v Speaker 6>the media is just is reporting things as true that

0:27:02.680 --> 0:27:06.440
<v Speaker 6>are just clearly obviously a lie. So one of the

0:27:06.520 --> 0:27:08.720
<v Speaker 6>ones that's been going around and that the media is

0:27:08.720 --> 0:27:11.520
<v Speaker 6>reporting a Trump has said is that he said he's

0:27:11.600 --> 0:27:14.680
<v Speaker 6>going to pause tariffs on countries that don't retaliate, except

0:27:14.760 --> 0:27:17.240
<v Speaker 6>we know that's a lie because the EU already imposed

0:27:17.240 --> 0:27:20.720
<v Speaker 6>retaliatory tariffs. But the EU's turf tariff rate is like

0:27:21.040 --> 0:27:23.480
<v Speaker 6>already down to ten percent, just like everyone else. So

0:27:23.920 --> 0:27:27.600
<v Speaker 6>we know that Trump is lying about his rationale for

0:27:27.760 --> 0:27:30.680
<v Speaker 6>the rollback of the turf tariffs, right, and every single

0:27:30.760 --> 0:27:33.879
<v Speaker 6>fucking media outlet is still just reporting it because nobody

0:27:34.200 --> 0:27:37.840
<v Speaker 6>fucking knows how to do freaking reporting anymore, we should

0:27:37.920 --> 0:27:41.320
<v Speaker 6>move to what this is going to do the supply chain,

0:27:41.480 --> 0:27:45.080
<v Speaker 6>And to put this in perspective, when I learned about

0:27:45.080 --> 0:27:47.480
<v Speaker 6>the one hundred and four percent tariff on China, that

0:27:47.600 --> 0:27:49.399
<v Speaker 6>was before it was one hundred and twenty five percent

0:27:49.480 --> 0:27:52.200
<v Speaker 6>where it's at now, I was writing an episode called

0:27:52.240 --> 0:27:54.320
<v Speaker 6>the Old Economy is Dead, which will probably still be

0:27:54.400 --> 0:27:56.760
<v Speaker 6>coming out on Monday. Again, that was the fifty.

0:27:56.520 --> 0:27:58.080
<v Speaker 3>Four percent rate.

0:27:58.400 --> 0:28:00.840
<v Speaker 6>I was writing a thing called the Old Economy is

0:28:00.880 --> 0:28:03.919
<v Speaker 6>Dead at one hundred and four percent, Like things are

0:28:04.040 --> 0:28:06.280
<v Speaker 6>going to break in the supply chain that only seven

0:28:06.320 --> 0:28:09.280
<v Speaker 6>people on Earth have ever heard of before, Like entire

0:28:09.320 --> 0:28:11.200
<v Speaker 6>sectors of the economy are going to be annihilated.

0:28:11.240 --> 0:28:12.280
<v Speaker 3>We're going to see right.

0:28:12.240 --> 0:28:14.480
<v Speaker 6>Now, we're probably going to see everyone attempt to route

0:28:15.200 --> 0:28:17.399
<v Speaker 6>like all shipping from China. There's going to be a

0:28:17.440 --> 0:28:19.320
<v Speaker 6>massive effort to try to reroot it through like literally

0:28:19.400 --> 0:28:22.560
<v Speaker 6>any other country. But again that's only a solution for

0:28:23.280 --> 0:28:27.800
<v Speaker 6>like you know, ninety days, and and again it's not

0:28:27.840 --> 0:28:29.800
<v Speaker 6>even clear that that can work. I mean, I'm already

0:28:29.800 --> 0:28:31.760
<v Speaker 6>seeing a bunch of reports swamp business as being like, yeah,

0:28:31.760 --> 0:28:34.280
<v Speaker 6>we're fucked because and that was the four percent tariffs

0:28:34.760 --> 0:28:38.960
<v Speaker 6>and at one hundred and twenty five percent, Entire industries

0:28:39.000 --> 0:28:42.760
<v Speaker 6>are non viable. Now, it's maybe possible that if it

0:28:42.920 --> 0:28:48.320
<v Speaker 6>was just these tariffs and an all Chinese shipping was

0:28:48.440 --> 0:28:52.600
<v Speaker 6>able to be routed through some other country, maybe we

0:28:52.680 --> 0:28:55.720
<v Speaker 6>would only have a regular economic collapse, like a like

0:28:56.320 --> 0:28:59.560
<v Speaker 6>you know, like an early two thousands tech bubble collapse,

0:28:59.640 --> 0:29:01.560
<v Speaker 6>and not like a two thousand and eight one. But again,

0:29:01.600 --> 0:29:03.360
<v Speaker 6>that's the same thing that note moti war tariffs go

0:29:03.400 --> 0:29:07.440
<v Speaker 6>into effect. Now. The problem is that we went through

0:29:07.520 --> 0:29:10.240
<v Speaker 6>this with the ninety day pauses on the Mexican tariffs

0:29:10.240 --> 0:29:12.320
<v Speaker 6>and the Canadian tariffs, and then after ninety days everyone

0:29:12.320 --> 0:29:13.720
<v Speaker 6>assumed that they weren't going to go to effect again,

0:29:13.720 --> 0:29:16.840
<v Speaker 6>they just went to effect. So the odds are of

0:29:16.880 --> 0:29:20.120
<v Speaker 6>that the absolutely catastrophic turf tariffs from like Liberation Day

0:29:20.160 --> 0:29:23.120
<v Speaker 6>are going to go into effect in about ninety days,

0:29:23.440 --> 0:29:26.240
<v Speaker 6>right that that's probably what's going to happen. There's probably

0:29:26.280 --> 0:29:28.280
<v Speaker 6>going to be some attempts to negotiate them down, but

0:29:28.480 --> 0:29:31.520
<v Speaker 6>like again, those absolutely catastrophic tariffs which are going to

0:29:31.640 --> 0:29:33.880
<v Speaker 6>just fucking annihilate the entire world economy, are probably going

0:29:33.920 --> 0:29:38.040
<v Speaker 6>to go into effect. And you know, part of what's

0:29:38.040 --> 0:29:41.640
<v Speaker 6>happening here, right, is that so the markets are doing this,

0:29:41.720 --> 0:29:43.920
<v Speaker 6>they're like dead cat bounce, right, And a lot of

0:29:43.960 --> 0:29:47.320
<v Speaker 6>this is because they haven't actually stopped to think about,

0:29:48.280 --> 0:29:51.960
<v Speaker 6>like how much American manufacturing and contra every argument everyone

0:29:52.080 --> 0:29:54.440
<v Speaker 6>is making about this, there is actually a lot of

0:29:54.520 --> 0:29:56.800
<v Speaker 6>manufacturing still in the US, but all of it relies

0:29:56.920 --> 0:29:59.800
<v Speaker 6>on Chinese imports and various stages of invadio stage are

0:30:00.000 --> 0:30:03.560
<v Speaker 6>auction and they're fucked. And I haven't even mentioned yet,

0:30:03.600 --> 0:30:06.680
<v Speaker 6>by the way, the sort of caption to all of

0:30:06.760 --> 0:30:08.840
<v Speaker 6>this is that China is doing an eighty four percent

0:30:08.920 --> 0:30:11.760
<v Speaker 6>retaliatory tariff on all American goods, which is going to

0:30:11.880 --> 0:30:14.240
<v Speaker 6>just fuck massive portions of American agriculture. We've talked a

0:30:14.280 --> 0:30:17.240
<v Speaker 6>lot on the show about soybean exports. It's going to

0:30:17.280 --> 0:30:19.320
<v Speaker 6>be absolutely catastrophic. We're going to go more into this

0:30:19.600 --> 0:30:23.000
<v Speaker 6>on Monday. But you know, the thing that's clear from

0:30:23.080 --> 0:30:26.600
<v Speaker 6>this is that these people don't see the economy as

0:30:26.680 --> 0:30:28.959
<v Speaker 6>real in the way that you and I do, Right.

0:30:29.080 --> 0:30:32.000
<v Speaker 6>They simply don't, you know, we look at the economy

0:30:32.040 --> 0:30:33.840
<v Speaker 6>as something where we have to have a fucking job

0:30:33.920 --> 0:30:35.320
<v Speaker 6>so we can go to work, so we can come

0:30:35.360 --> 0:30:38.080
<v Speaker 6>home and fucking buy food for our families and pay

0:30:38.080 --> 0:30:40.360
<v Speaker 6>our rent. And they think it's a fucking joke, right,

0:30:40.560 --> 0:30:43.920
<v Speaker 6>They think it's a fucking masculinity signifier and they think

0:30:44.000 --> 0:30:45.840
<v Speaker 6>it's it. Like they look at tariff rates and they go,

0:30:45.960 --> 0:30:47.520
<v Speaker 6>this is just a number on a fucking page. And

0:30:47.560 --> 0:30:49.600
<v Speaker 6>that's why the tariff rate is now one hundred and

0:30:49.680 --> 0:30:52.560
<v Speaker 6>twenty five percent on China because it doesn't None of

0:30:52.640 --> 0:30:55.400
<v Speaker 6>this shit is real for them at all. Now do

0:30:55.440 --> 0:30:59.360
<v Speaker 6>you know what is real? No, the products and services

0:31:00.040 --> 0:31:16.880
<v Speaker 6>support this. Ye ye, yep, we are back now.

0:31:17.200 --> 0:31:17.480
<v Speaker 3>Okay.

0:31:17.720 --> 0:31:19.320
<v Speaker 6>One of the things that I've been seeing a lot

0:31:19.360 --> 0:31:21.080
<v Speaker 6>of is there are a lot of arguments about whether

0:31:21.120 --> 0:31:23.600
<v Speaker 6>there was some kind of plan here. Trump has claimed

0:31:23.680 --> 0:31:26.080
<v Speaker 6>that he was going to roll back the terrorists all along,

0:31:26.320 --> 0:31:29.120
<v Speaker 6>and no, he wasn't. Just no, he's just lying. He's

0:31:29.160 --> 0:31:30.920
<v Speaker 6>just going by the seat of his pants. And I

0:31:31.040 --> 0:31:34.720
<v Speaker 6>can prove that there is no plan here by moving

0:31:34.800 --> 0:31:36.239
<v Speaker 6>on to the second thing that I want to talk

0:31:36.280 --> 0:31:39.440
<v Speaker 6>about here, which is a speech given by Council of

0:31:39.520 --> 0:31:43.280
<v Speaker 6>Economic Advisors Chairman Steve Myhren at the Hudson Institute. So

0:31:43.360 --> 0:31:45.880
<v Speaker 6>this is this is again the the the Council of

0:31:45.920 --> 0:31:50.120
<v Speaker 6>Economic Advisors is a federal agency that is like their

0:31:50.200 --> 0:31:52.560
<v Speaker 6>their job is to provide economic advice to the president, right,

0:31:53.720 --> 0:31:58.480
<v Speaker 6>and their chair gave a speech where he argues, and

0:31:58.600 --> 0:32:01.680
<v Speaker 6>this is something that like I I Hey, Jesus fucking Christ,

0:32:01.720 --> 0:32:04.440
<v Speaker 6>we were talking about, okay, the fact that every fucking

0:32:04.480 --> 0:32:07.200
<v Speaker 6>country on Earth has US Treasury bonds. We were talking

0:32:07.200 --> 0:32:09.680
<v Speaker 6>about this earlier, right, the status of the US dollar

0:32:10.000 --> 0:32:13.360
<v Speaker 6>as the global reserve currency. This guy is arguing that

0:32:13.480 --> 0:32:17.160
<v Speaker 6>that is actually a public good that other countries.

0:32:16.880 --> 0:32:17.720
<v Speaker 3>Should pay us for.

0:32:18.880 --> 0:32:23.320
<v Speaker 6>He wants to force countries to fucking pay taxes to

0:32:23.520 --> 0:32:26.720
<v Speaker 6>the United States for holding US Treasury bonds.

0:32:27.280 --> 0:32:30.320
<v Speaker 3>And again, if any nation on Earth could pay to

0:32:30.440 --> 0:32:33.520
<v Speaker 3>have their currency be the global reserve currency, there's no

0:32:33.720 --> 0:32:37.120
<v Speaker 3>amount they wouldn't pay. Like, the degree to which this

0:32:37.240 --> 0:32:40.320
<v Speaker 3>benefits you was ridiculous, Like the fact that you want

0:32:40.480 --> 0:32:42.680
<v Speaker 3>to charge other people for it. It's nothing.

0:32:43.520 --> 0:32:47.440
<v Speaker 6>It is like, Look how this like actually works, right,

0:32:47.920 --> 0:32:51.840
<v Speaker 6>is that every single other country on Earth is forced

0:32:51.880 --> 0:32:55.320
<v Speaker 6>to buy American debt, which is what a bond is, right, Yeah,

0:32:55.840 --> 0:32:58.200
<v Speaker 6>And this allows the US to carry out even more

0:32:58.240 --> 0:33:00.720
<v Speaker 6>spending without inflationary effects every single other country.

0:33:01.000 --> 0:33:04.200
<v Speaker 3>Everything is based on this, Yes, it's just it's.

0:33:04.080 --> 0:33:06.440
<v Speaker 6>All forced on on like other countries having to stockpow

0:33:06.560 --> 0:33:09.880
<v Speaker 6>US dollars, like the literally the entire global economy. The

0:33:09.960 --> 0:33:11.840
<v Speaker 6>US is advantage in the entire global econy is that

0:33:11.920 --> 0:33:14.840
<v Speaker 6>every single other fucking country on Earth needs US dollars.

0:33:14.920 --> 0:33:16.680
<v Speaker 6>Part of this is to buy oil. And part of

0:33:16.760 --> 0:33:19.240
<v Speaker 6>this is again because the dollar is the fucking reserve currency.

0:33:19.240 --> 0:33:21.280
<v Speaker 6>It's the currency that fucking trade is done in, and

0:33:21.600 --> 0:33:25.440
<v Speaker 6>the assets that you hold is is like is the

0:33:25.520 --> 0:33:28.600
<v Speaker 6>fucking US bond. The anthropologist David Graeber called this in

0:33:28.680 --> 0:33:31.080
<v Speaker 6>his book Debt the First five thousand Years, a tribute

0:33:31.120 --> 0:33:34.040
<v Speaker 6>system that again, every country in the world is forced

0:33:34.040 --> 0:33:36.560
<v Speaker 6>to buy US bonds. The US government has just like

0:33:37.000 --> 0:33:39.640
<v Speaker 6>fairly explicitly like did this in the Reagan administration, does

0:33:39.680 --> 0:33:41.600
<v Speaker 6>this other times, like has just fairly explicitly leaned on

0:33:41.680 --> 0:33:43.680
<v Speaker 6>countries and been like, you're buying a fucking a fucking

0:33:43.680 --> 0:33:48.400
<v Speaker 6>bunch of US bonds now, right, Like this is this system.

0:33:48.600 --> 0:33:50.640
<v Speaker 6>The status of the dollar of the world reserve currency,

0:33:51.960 --> 0:33:56.720
<v Speaker 6>is the entire lattice that supports and spreads the American Empire,

0:33:56.960 --> 0:34:00.920
<v Speaker 6>and these fucking clowns one of people to pay taxes

0:34:01.320 --> 0:34:03.520
<v Speaker 6>on the tribute that they are.

0:34:03.520 --> 0:34:04.239
<v Speaker 3>Paying to us.

0:34:04.960 --> 0:34:08.200
<v Speaker 6>This is not by Trump from Elon Musk right, this

0:34:08.680 --> 0:34:12.200
<v Speaker 6>is the guy these people brought in to be their economist,

0:34:12.400 --> 0:34:13.560
<v Speaker 6>to do economic policy.

0:34:13.920 --> 0:34:14.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:34:14.480 --> 0:34:18.520
<v Speaker 6>There there is no limit to their stupidity. There is

0:34:18.640 --> 0:34:21.600
<v Speaker 6>no rock of sanity upon which the tide of madness

0:34:21.600 --> 0:34:24.840
<v Speaker 6>will crash. Everything we have seen, we have seen so

0:34:25.040 --> 0:34:28.880
<v Speaker 6>far is just a prelude to an infinite abyss of stupidity,

0:34:29.200 --> 0:34:33.120
<v Speaker 6>so mindnumbingly incomprehensible it will shatter our minds like a

0:34:33.200 --> 0:34:36.520
<v Speaker 6>snowflake and a hurricane. You can no longer think to yourself.

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<v Speaker 6>They cannot possibly be this stupid. They are thinking thoughts

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<v Speaker 6>even gods can not comprehend. They are attempting to drain

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<v Speaker 6>the sea by shouting at the moon. They are trying

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<v Speaker 6>to wipe their ass with pine cones.

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<v Speaker 3>There is no five.

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<v Speaker 6>Dimensional plan here. There is not even a man behind

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<v Speaker 6>the fucking curtain. There is only an infinite sea of cruelty, malicon,

0:34:56.719 --> 0:34:59.160
<v Speaker 6>stupidity trying to drown us all for the crime of

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<v Speaker 6>attempting to ext in the world we're born in. The

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<v Speaker 6>reality of the men who rule the American Empire.

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<v Speaker 9>Is this.

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<v Speaker 6>It is so terrifying that everyone from the most powerful

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<v Speaker 6>CEOs on the planet to the fucking day traders running

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<v Speaker 6>the stock markets to broke left the ship posters recoil

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<v Speaker 6>in horror and try to construct meaning and some kind

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<v Speaker 6>of like anything, any kind of strategy, any kind of

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<v Speaker 6>strategic reason why anyone could possibly be doing this, because

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<v Speaker 6>the existence of a plan, literally any plan, no matter

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<v Speaker 6>how evil it is, is preferable to this, which is

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<v Speaker 6>that the largest economy in the world, the most powerful

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<v Speaker 6>empire of the world has ever seen, is being run

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<v Speaker 6>by the dumbest people who have ever fucking lift and

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<v Speaker 6>they are doing this because they are evil and they're stupid.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, there's absolutely like yeah, yeah, no, nothing else

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<v Speaker 3>to say. Really.

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<v Speaker 2>I think one of the things that is underpinning this,

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<v Speaker 2>which you can pick up on if you are cursed

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<v Speaker 2>enough to listen to enough of these speeches and enough

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<v Speaker 2>of their of their talking heads podcasts, is like this

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<v Speaker 2>reoccurring trend in which these people really need to be

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<v Speaker 2>victims in order to in order to politically succeed, which

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<v Speaker 2>is an accuation that's usually thrown against you know, woke sgws.

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<v Speaker 2>But like before the election, right, it was this idea

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<v Speaker 2>that that because because of the dem corrupt elite establishment.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, everyday Americans are are are victims of this,

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<v Speaker 2>of this hidden cabal of Democrats that that are ruining everything.

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<v Speaker 2>But but now that these people are in charge of

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<v Speaker 2>of of the United States, the people who are victimizing

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<v Speaker 2>us is just the entire world, right, the entire world

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<v Speaker 2>is ripping off the United States by using our dollar,

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<v Speaker 2>by by doing trade with us. They are somehow ripping

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<v Speaker 2>us off, like we are the victims of this global scheme.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's hurting you at the average blue collar worker,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's making women adopt managerial positions and and this

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<v Speaker 2>is this is what's actually is the core of of

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<v Speaker 2>your oppression. And even even even when they win, and

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<v Speaker 2>even when they control the country, they can't let go

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<v Speaker 2>of this victim status. They have to have someone ripping

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<v Speaker 2>them off in order to justify them doing just incomprehensible

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<v Speaker 2>stupid power grabs. And it is very much linked to

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<v Speaker 2>like this like masculine signifier. It's very odd, like like

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<v Speaker 2>the way that people are trying to trying to justify

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<v Speaker 2>losing so much money in the stock market. It's by

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<v Speaker 2>re posting a clip of some like Australian women dancing

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<v Speaker 2>on dancing on TikTok in like an office building, and

0:37:30.360 --> 0:37:34.919
<v Speaker 2>they're like, well, you know, tariffs are are are much

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<v Speaker 2>better than having to deal with women in the office,

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<v Speaker 2>am I right now?

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<v Speaker 3>Women having a joke?

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<v Speaker 2>This is this is this is how they this is

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<v Speaker 2>how they justify it.

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<v Speaker 3>At least we don't have woke. It's worth it to

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<v Speaker 3>not be able to afford food. If THEO is the

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<v Speaker 3>global long house, that's a deep cut down long house

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<v Speaker 3>is burnt down. Sure, because the long House is burnt down,

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<v Speaker 3>we're now exposed to the elements and all of our

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<v Speaker 3>food story story are gone and it's about to snow

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<v Speaker 3>eighteen feet. But at least the long house.

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<v Speaker 4>The long house with your am nephew in it, that

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<v Speaker 4>you hate and owned you at Thanksgiving, it is gone.

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<v Speaker 2>Shout out to your nephew.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I guess what's the nibbling? Nibbling is a correct

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<v Speaker 4>non binary appollition.

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<v Speaker 2>In other news, last week, President Trump said that he

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<v Speaker 2>would be quote unquote honored for the President of l

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<v Speaker 2>Salvador to take US citizens, which he calls American grown

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<v Speaker 2>and born criminals and put them into SEACOT. The terrorism

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<v Speaker 2>confinement center, which is essentially a prison work.

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<v Speaker 3>Camp YEP, that no one gets released from.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Trump said, quote, why should it stop just at

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<v Speaker 2>people that crossed the border illegally? On quotes, But it

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<v Speaker 2>shouldn't stop that she shouldn't be there at all. And

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<v Speaker 2>and his James already mentioned seventy five percent of the

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<v Speaker 2>immigrants sent to sea caught don't have a criminal conviction.

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<v Speaker 2>These people are not criminals. Now, a few days later,

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<v Speaker 2>the White House presecretary reiterated that this is something that

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<v Speaker 2>Trump is seriously discussing, both publicly and privately.

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<v Speaker 7>So the President has discussed this idea quite a few

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<v Speaker 7>times publicly. He's also discussed it privately. You're referring to

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<v Speaker 7>the President's idea for American citizens to potentially be deported.

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<v Speaker 7>These would be heinous, violent criminals who have broken our

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<v Speaker 7>nation's laws repeatedly, and these are violent repeat offenders in

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<v Speaker 7>American streets. The President has said, if it's legal right,

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<v Speaker 7>if there is a legal pathway to do that, he's

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<v Speaker 7>not sure.

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<v Speaker 6>We are not sure if there is.

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<v Speaker 7>It's an idea that he has simply floated and has

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<v Speaker 7>discussed very publicly. As in the effort of transparency, now.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the last things we're going to discuss is

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<v Speaker 2>an update on DHS and ICE efforts to deport students

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<v Speaker 2>across the country. Me and James did an episode last

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<v Speaker 2>week which is still pretty relevant, but all of the

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<v Speaker 2>numbers have increased dramatically since that episode. As of Tuesday night,

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<v Speaker 2>April eighth, ninety two student visas have been revoked at

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<v Speaker 2>California University, fifty at UC campuses, and thirty six at

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<v Speaker 2>California State University campuses, with six more at Stanford. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>as of April eight, fifty student visas have been revoked

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<v Speaker 2>at Arizona State University, with multiple students now in iced attention.

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<v Speaker 2>Lawyers for these students believe that upwards of one thousand

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<v Speaker 2>visas have been revoked across the country. A map on

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<v Speaker 2>inside higher ed dot com shows four hundred and nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>confirmed instances of student visas or in some cases, green cards,

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<v Speaker 2>being revoked by Secretary of State Mark Rubio across thirty

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<v Speaker 2>four states, and as of Wednesday, April ninth, visas for

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen international students have been revoked at the University of Utah,

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<v Speaker 2>with these students and recent graduates received letters from the

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<v Speaker 2>Trump administration instructing them to quote unquote self deport immediately.

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<v Speaker 2>At Utah State University, more than thirty students have been impacted,

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<v Speaker 2>according to the university administration.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm aware of at least one UCSC student who

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<v Speaker 4>is detained at the border and immediately deported. And also

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<v Speaker 4>where the UCOP uc officer the president right a statement

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<v Speaker 4>about the impact of service terminations across its campuses. But

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<v Speaker 4>the UCSD Guardian, in a dub for Student Journalism, reported

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<v Speaker 4>that UCSD convened an emergency meeting before this of faculty

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<v Speaker 4>and it knew about the revocations or that the service changes, right,

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<v Speaker 4>they were revocation of their student status, and it was

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<v Speaker 4>reluctant to act because it hadn't received guidance from UCOP yet.

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<v Speaker 4>So we're seeing this from a lot of university administrations, right,

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<v Speaker 4>they don't know how to respond. I did see that

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<v Speaker 4>the University of Arizona was helping fund some of the

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<v Speaker 4>legal fees of their students, which is more than many

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<v Speaker 4>universities are doing as of now. There seems to be

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<v Speaker 4>no pattern of prior rest for the people who have

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<v Speaker 4>had their status has changed, But in some cases, it

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<v Speaker 4>seems that in some university systems. All of the people

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<v Speaker 4>who have lost their status are either Chinese, Indian, or

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<v Speaker 4>from majority Muslim countries.

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<v Speaker 6>One other thing I wanted to close out is episode

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<v Speaker 6>on So we have an episode out about this already.

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<v Speaker 6>But one of the things that ICE has been doing

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<v Speaker 6>has been targeting migrant farm worker labor organizers.

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<v Speaker 3>They have.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm basically just kidnapped, like just straight up broke this

0:42:14.560 --> 0:42:17.840
<v Speaker 6>guy's window in his car and dragged him out. A

0:42:17.880 --> 0:42:21.120
<v Speaker 6>guy named Alfredo Quarez is known as Lalo. He is

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<v Speaker 6>an organizer for Familias you need Us Legisticia in Washington,

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<v Speaker 6>and there is going to be a protest. This will

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<v Speaker 6>be Saturday, the twelfth. That will be tomorrow as you're

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<v Speaker 6>listening to this, on Friday at Portland City Hall at

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<v Speaker 6>two pm. Organizers are also asking that you call the

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<v Speaker 6>Washington Attorney General to demand pressure be put on everyone

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<v Speaker 6>to release him. Yeah, if you want to hear more

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<v Speaker 6>about that, there is I have an interview with an

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<v Speaker 6>organizer who works with them, and yeah, it's real fucking bad.

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<v Speaker 6>The scale of the repression has been increasing. It's not undefeatable,

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<v Speaker 6>and this is a this is a tangible thing that

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<v Speaker 6>you can do to try to stop them. But yeah,

0:43:07.960 --> 0:43:12.239
<v Speaker 6>it requires movement now, and yeah, do this now before

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<v Speaker 6>it gets worse.

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<v Speaker 2>To update another topic of the episode me and James

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<v Speaker 2>did last week, we mentioned that DHS was seeking input

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<v Speaker 2>for installing a new program to screen the social media

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<v Speaker 2>activity of people applying for immigration benefits for what would

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<v Speaker 2>they label as anti semitism. And this policy is now

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<v Speaker 2>in effect. This applies to quote unquote, aliens applying for

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<v Speaker 2>lawful permanent resident status, foreign students, and aliens affiliated with

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<v Speaker 2>educational institutions, possibly also people applying for citizenship. To quote

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<v Speaker 2>the DHS Assistant Secretary of Public Affairs, Trisha McLaughlin, quote,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no room in the United States so for the

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<v Speaker 2>rest of the world's terrorist sympathizers, and we are under

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<v Speaker 2>an obligation to admit them or let them stay here.

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<v Speaker 2>Secretary Nome has made it clear that anyone who thinks

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<v Speaker 2>they can come to America and hide behind the First

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<v Speaker 2>Amendment to advocate for antisemitic violence and terrorism, think again.

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<v Speaker 2>You are not welcome here. Unquote. The web page for

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<v Speaker 2>this new policy states, under this guidance, USCIS will consider

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<v Speaker 2>social media content that indicates an alien endorsing espousing promoting

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<v Speaker 2>or supporting anti Semitic terrorism, anti Semitic terrorist organizations, or

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<v Speaker 2>other antisemitic activity as a negative factor in any discretionary

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<v Speaker 2>analysis when adjudicating immigration benefit requests.

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<v Speaker 4>So essentially, this.

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<v Speaker 2>Means that if you've posted anything that is in support

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<v Speaker 2>of Palestine or criticizes the Israeli government, this will be

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<v Speaker 2>now used against you if you are applying for visa,

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<v Speaker 2>if you are applying for a green card, if you're

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<v Speaker 2>applying for citizenship and already live in this country as

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<v Speaker 2>a permanent resident lawfully. So just a wider net of

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<v Speaker 2>social media surveillance. Four h forour Media put out a

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<v Speaker 2>good article on when Day about a palanteer system that

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<v Speaker 2>ICE is using to look for immigrants and people in

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<v Speaker 2>this country, which allows them to select for specific attributes

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<v Speaker 2>with a pretty intense filtering system. So yeah, this is

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<v Speaker 2>ongoing and we will continue to report as such.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, all right, everybody, Well until next week, please don't

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<v Speaker 3>go to an El Salvador in prison camp if you

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<v Speaker 3>can avoid it.

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<v Speaker 2>We reported the news.

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<v Speaker 3>Great, we reported the news.

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<v Speaker 4>It could happen.

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