1 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Cool media. 2 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 2: This is it could happen here. Executive Disorder, our weekly 3 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 2: newscast covering what's happening in the White House, the crumbling world, 4 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 2: and what it means for you. I'm Garrison Davis today. 5 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:19,920 Speaker 2: I'm joined by Mia Wong, James Stout, and Robert Evans. 6 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:23,159 Speaker 2: This week we're covering the week of April third to 7 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 2: April ninth. We have we have recovered from the Liberation day, 8 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 2: fully liberated. Yeah, and now the economy is back to normal. 9 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 3: Right, Yes, everything's really good. Everyone's four oh one k's 10 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 3: have been normal and stable and stable and stable. That's 11 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 3: what's important. Just line go up. The economy runs from stability. 12 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 3: I mean one of the things the line did was 13 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:55,639 Speaker 3: go up. So yeah, lines, God, why should anyone complain? Yeah? 14 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, line's gone in a few different directions this week. 15 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 3: Among the different directions the line went up, was you 16 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 3: know a portion of that time? 17 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, durrection that hasn't gone is left. I guess 18 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 4: which you know we're waiting for that one. 19 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 3: And related news, A dead cat can bounce. I don't 20 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 3: know why they picked the cat for the dead animal 21 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 3: to bounce to refer to that stock market term, but. 22 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 4: I think this is a term that's new to Garrison, 23 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 4: just judging by the facial expression. 24 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:26,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't know what that is. So basically, when 25 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 3: when a stock price for a company or whatever collapses 26 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,759 Speaker 3: right there will generally be it will straight a line 27 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 3: down and then it will bump back up and it 28 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 3: will look like it's rallying. But this isn't generally a rally. 29 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 3: What it is is that when people like short a stock, 30 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 3: there's a point at which they have to like buy 31 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 3: back the share like shares, and that artificially inflates it 32 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 3: briefly before it then begins to decline again. So it's 33 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 3: not a real it's the result of how short selling 34 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 3: works that there has to be this thing that makes 35 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 3: it temporarily look like it's rallying, but that's really not 36 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 3: what's happening. 37 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm familiar with this concept. 38 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 4: And they call it a dead cat. It's referred to 39 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 4: as a dead cat bounce. 40 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 5: Yere. 41 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 3: I don't know why it's referred to as a dead 42 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 3: cat bounce, but it is. 43 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 6: Stockbro because are not normal people then why these these 44 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,679 Speaker 6: are Wall Street guys. One of them has probably done 45 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:20,079 Speaker 6: it like that's that's probably why it's called that, Like. 46 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've thrown a lot of corpses at a lot 47 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 3: of things and they don't really bounce. 48 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 2: Speaking of corpses, Robert, you have some exciting news on 49 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 2: the army. 50 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:31,399 Speaker 4: To pronounce Col Garrison. 51 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 3: Yes, Yes. The good news is the army is going 52 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 3: to be more lethal and efficient than ever before, which 53 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 3: President Trump announced while sitting in the White House next 54 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 3: to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin net and Yahoo, who had 55 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 3: to take roughly at twice the length of trip he 56 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 3: normally has to take to go here because so many 57 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 3: countries that he would normally fly over or stop in 58 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 3: have arrest warrants out for him. For all of the 59 00:02:56,200 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 3: war cries. Oh, we love to see it, but you know, 60 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 3: it's not about the journey. It's about you know, the 61 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 3: people you journey too. And Netanyahoo met with Trump, you know, 62 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 3: someone whom he clearly feels very safe, and you know, 63 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 3: I dare I say loving with and the two of 64 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 3: them shared the most intimate bond that two elderly men 65 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 3: who have committed war crimes can share, which is announcing 66 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 3: a record budget for the United States military of one 67 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 3: trillion dollars. Well, I should say, Trump stated it would 68 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:31,519 Speaker 3: be in the vicinity of one trillion dollars. Now does 69 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 3: that mean possibly that very little is changing about the 70 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 3: military budget. Yes, it does, and we'll get to that 71 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 3: in a second. Hag Seth, our Secretary of Defense, made 72 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 3: a post on Twitter right after saying Trump is rebuilding 73 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 3: our military and fast. He also really bragged about that 74 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 3: trillion dollar amount and said, ps, we intend to spend 75 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 3: every tax payer dollar wisely on lethality and readiness. Now 76 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 3: here's the thing. Trillion dollars shitload of money. Current amount 77 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 3: of funding allocated to national defense programs eight hundred and 78 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 3: ninety two billion dollars, so trillion dollars about a ten 79 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 3: percent bump right for you know, the national defense programs. 80 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 3: But it's actually unclear the way in which he phrased 81 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 3: things and the way in which we like talk about 82 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 3: the funding for national security, this could mean that basically 83 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 3: the military will have pretty much the same, you know, 84 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 3: something of an increase but not a mass, not really 85 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 3: a significant difference from what it has now, and there 86 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 3: will be more money into other defense related programs. So 87 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 3: this is not like as massive a thing as it 88 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 3: might necessarily sound like. I think one thing that's sort 89 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 3: of significant here is like how this comports with the 90 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 3: way a lot of the folks and what we'll call 91 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 3: the shit had left had talked about where there was 92 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 3: this discussion that Trump's actually going to be you know, 93 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 3: bad for imperialism and the war machine. And you know, 94 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 3: there was even talk as of a couple of months 95 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 3: ago that they were going to like half the Pentagon budget, 96 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 3: Like you know, you know, all these whatever else happens, 97 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 3: you know, it's worth it if the military budget comes 98 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 3: down in this imperial juggernaut of hell gets finally neutered, 99 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 3: and just all of those people are always wrong. They 100 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 3: were always going to just make the army bigger. They 101 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 3: were always going to put more money in events. They 102 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 3: were always going to put more money into the hands 103 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 3: of defense contractors. Like anyone who knows anything about these 104 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 3: people or about how Republicans have worked knew that was 105 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 3: going to happen. There was never any chance that they 106 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 3: were going to cut the actual amount of money. Now 107 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 3: they're probably going to cut the number of people in 108 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 3: the military because despite what heck Seth said, there's a 109 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 3: lot of evidence that a shitload of this is going 110 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 3: to go towards modernization, and in fact, armed services each 111 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 3: branch is being our arm services are all being asked 112 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 3: to cut about eight percent of their individual budgets in 113 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 3: order to put money into modernization efforts, which obviously any 114 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 3: military needs to regularly modernize different systems. But this is 115 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 3: also a thing where if your country is run entirely 116 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 3: by grifters and conman trying to shotgun money to their 117 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 3: political supporters, have a lot of money in different defense companies. 118 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 3: What this means to me is you are probably going 119 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:08,919 Speaker 3: to see them continue to trim numbers of actual troops 120 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 3: and put more money into bullshit that gets a lot 121 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 3: of money to contractors. Yeah, that's that is my expectation. 122 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 3: That is what I see happening. More than anything here, 123 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 3: we'll see. But I think a lot of this additional 124 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 3: money is going to go towards buying shit that may 125 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 3: or may not be useful. But the primary purpose of 126 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 3: putting the money into that shit is because somebody who 127 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 3: is somebody gets a veig. Yeah. 128 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 4: I mean, if we look at fascism as a concept too, 129 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 4: it kind of it has this troubled relationship with modernity, 130 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 4: but one of the things it likes to do is 131 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 4: flex it's new little weapon systems and toys, and we're 132 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 4: going to see some guys posing with some weapon systems 133 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 4: that probably never get used, right, like probably some AI 134 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 4: targeting shit stuff like that. 135 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, it's Rallery does that. 136 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, we got to find some way to reallocate 137 00:06:56,320 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 2: the alleged fifty billion dollars in DOGE cuts, which is 138 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 2: certainly a fake number. Absolutely, we might as well send 139 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 2: over two hundred billion more to the Defense Department. 140 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 3: Based on early IRS filings, there's something like half a 141 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 3: trillion dollars that we might be losing in tax income 142 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 3: this year. So you know, net, I don't think we're 143 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,559 Speaker 3: doing great. I should also know to hear a big 144 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 3: part of the money that they're going to get for 145 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 3: modernizations coming from cutting fifty to sixty thousand civilian jobs, 146 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 3: many of whom are veterans, but also just in terms 147 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 3: of like military readiness, guys like hag Seth, who's primarily 148 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 3: a push up dude, and people who don't know anything 149 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 3: about the military see it as like, well, you know, 150 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 3: the military, you just want as many door kickers as 151 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 3: you possibly can, and you actually need very few of 152 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 3: those guys would need a lot of is guys that 153 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 3: can move things to different places and fix things when 154 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 3: they break, and do a lot of the paperwork that's 155 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 3: necessary to make both of those things possible, which is 156 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 3: why you need those jobs, and cutting a shitload of 157 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 3: them is not likely to increase readiness. It's also worth 158 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 3: noting that the US Army is looking at a forced 159 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 3: reduction of up to ninety thousand active duty soldiers. This 160 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 3: is based on an article from April fourth, which is 161 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 3: a significant reduction, and again like, we're not. 162 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:18,679 Speaker 6: Is that real? 163 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 3: Yes? 164 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 2: Why why are they doing a ninety percent reduction? 165 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 3: In part because it's very hard for them to find 166 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 3: new active duty soldiers. It is not easy to get 167 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 3: people to do this, and it is not the priority 168 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 3: of anybody in charge of anything to actually get more soldiers. 169 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 3: The priority is to put more money into systems AI 170 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 3: and all this shit, Like, I don't think they have 171 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 3: a vested interest in actually helping with that. 172 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 2: How are we going to take Greenland with drones? What 173 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 2: do we do it? 174 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 3: Yeah? Probably? I mean there's not a lot of peace. 175 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 2: Probably, how we're going to do it? 176 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 3: There's not a lot of people in Greenland. 177 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 2: Garrison excited for the naval blockade of Greenland to yeah, 178 00:08:57,720 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 2: kick off at about two months. 179 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's going to be great anyway. They're going 180 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 3: to make part of why I think they feel confident 181 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 3: trying to make you know, they're calling this making the 182 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 3: army smaller and more agile, is because Trump is doing 183 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:16,079 Speaker 3: his best to make friends with Russia and we're certainly 184 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 3: not going to whatever happens with Taiwan, the US military 185 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 3: is not going to be involved. 186 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 7: Yeah. 187 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, we ain't going to go back for them. 188 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:23,199 Speaker 8: You know. 189 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 3: His attitude is like what do we need this for? 190 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 3: We need an agile military that we can use to 191 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 3: fuck with Greenland and Panama. Like that's that's what we're 192 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 3: going to be doing, two very. 193 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 4: Similar biomes where like everything is very similar. 194 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's a lot of people like you know, 195 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 3: the folks running Palenteer who have an increasing amount of 196 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 3: say in what happens to the military, and you know 197 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 3: what Trump does, who are basically advocating for, like we're 198 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 3: going to have this whole kill chain automated soon. We 199 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 3: barely need people. You can't trust people, you know how 200 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 3: untrustworthy your generals have proved. Donald Cool. 201 00:09:56,440 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 2: Well, I'm excited for some more Arctic camo surpl us 202 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 2: to hit the mark at once. Yeah, Greenland situation is resolved. 203 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 4: I'm excited to be fucking around wondering who a drone's 204 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 4: going to kill next. That has been a really life 205 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 4: affirming experience for me, and I'm excited to have it 206 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 4: again soon. 207 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 3: It's going to be great. 208 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 4: Robbie, you mentioned the IRS and irs maybe maybe get 209 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 4: less money, So I got to talk a little bit 210 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 4: about the IRS. I guess let's let's start with like 211 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:27,719 Speaker 4: a little summary of this week immigration news. This week 212 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 4: child Rachik, who is the person who runs libs of 213 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 4: TikTok yeah, joined Ice on a raid. 214 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 3: She is, shall we say, the Julius Striker of our 215 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 3: modern fashions. 216 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I guess you're right. 217 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 3: Damn sorry, I'm just no. I mean, like, I wasn't 218 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 3: joking about that. That's the most direct comparison that. Yeah. 219 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 4: Sorry, I just took a moment to reflect on that, 220 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 4: and it's not a great thing to reflect on. 221 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 3: It's really not. Now. It doesn't make me feel good, yeah, No. 222 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:59,319 Speaker 4: Other things that make me feel good are the sixteen 223 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 4: Minutes report, seventy five percent of people since Siko had 224 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 4: no criminal conviction, which seems to leave open the possibility 225 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 4: of there being a crime for which it would be 226 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 4: okay to be sent to a foreign goo lag with 227 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 4: no hope of return, which I don't believe is the case. Like, yeah, 228 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 4: I'm very disappointed at any reporting which focuses on guilt, 229 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 4: as if one could ever be guilty of anything which 230 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 4: would make this justifiable, you can't. The government is also 231 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 4: soliciting for proposals this week to massively increase migrant detention, 232 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 4: which again is not surprising, right, we talked about this 233 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 4: last November, but it's also not great. But where I 234 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:36,199 Speaker 4: want to focus today is on the IRS and the 235 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 4: Abdegogatia case we spoke about last week. So well, it's 236 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 4: see inter reporting that the IRS has said it will 237 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:44,319 Speaker 4: hand over information of people who are subject to criminal 238 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 4: investigation to DHS or ICE right, ICE being under DHS. 239 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 3: They so they say they. 240 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 4: What happened here is that part of court filings and 241 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 4: memorandum of understanding between ICE and the IRS was released 242 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,839 Speaker 4: in the MoU or in the court finding. Actually they 243 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 4: cite an offense of failure to depart the United States 244 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 4: after being ordered removed. So Essentially anyone who they're saying 245 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 4: like you have to go right, you know that they 246 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 4: could They could then ask for their tax return information. 247 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 4: Exactly what the IRS will disclose to ICE is covered 248 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 4: by a big black reaction in the court documents, so 249 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 4: we don't know that the entire emmaus submitted, but like 250 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 4: there's significant reactions in it, ICE has to hand One 251 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 4: thing that's not redacted is that ICE has to hand 252 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 4: over the person's name, address, and the crime of which 253 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 4: they're for which they're investigating, and it has to be 254 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 4: a non tax crime. 255 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 3: Not that that matter is Huguely. 256 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 4: This is more limited than a lot of people have feared, 257 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 4: and it's more limited than a lot of the reporting 258 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 4: I've seen. It's possible that there's something else going on. 259 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 4: I saw the acting director in ICE was going to 260 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 4: quit over this. I saw that this morning. But the 261 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 4: fact that they have to have their address suggests that 262 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 4: they couldn't locate them using the tax return form right, 263 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 4: which which is a good thing. It is one last 264 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 4: step towards fascuistrom. I guess I'm also aware of ICE 265 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 4: having memorandums of understanding with other agencies, to include HUD right, 266 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 4: housing and urban development. All of this is going to 267 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 4: reduce the amount that migrant communities engage with the federal 268 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:19,199 Speaker 4: government to any degree. Right, Contrary to what you might 269 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 4: have heard undocumated to people do to pay their taxes, 270 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 4: it's actually relatively rare for them not to do that. 271 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 4: And this might change if the RS starts handing over 272 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 4: people's tax returned information to ICE right. Obviously, if HUD 273 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 4: starts handing over people's information, that's going to lead to 274 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 4: people not being as willing to take housing benefits, more 275 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 4: people landing up living on the street. 276 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:38,559 Speaker 8: Right. 277 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 4: On the other hand, Houston City in Texas, for that, 278 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 4: you who an't familiar, have I Have I pronounced that right? 279 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 3: Robert Tehause, Yeah, I thought it was. I wasn't sure 280 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 3: of it. It was Houston. 281 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 9: Houston, Oh house. 282 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 3: Soon understood. It's a it's a place we just don't go. 283 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 3: That's that's that's how I refer to Houston. Okay, beautiful. 284 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 4: So this Texas No Man's landtown has turned over information 285 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 4: including addresses and license paids for people charged with driving 286 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 4: without a license, even though some of this under Texas 287 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:08,839 Speaker 4: law is supposed to remain confidential. 288 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 3: So that's great. 289 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:15,079 Speaker 4: They are also now making immigration detentions at regular traffic stops. 290 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 4: Some aware of one incident where a man was arrested 291 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 4: after being stopped for a cracked windscreen and he's now 292 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 4: an ICE detention, so that there was I presumably an 293 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 4: ICE warrant for this person that the Houston police then 294 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 4: acted upon. 295 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 2: I mean, and this is this can just be racial profiling, right, 296 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 2: Like if they're going to pull someone over and then 297 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 2: send them to ICE, like they're just going to start 298 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 2: pulling over as many people that they don't want to 299 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 2: be in Houston. 300 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, Like we already know that police departments have a 301 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 4: tendency to pull over people who aren't white more often, right, 302 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 4: and then like if you give them this, that's just 303 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 4: going to exacerbate that further. Again, it's also going to 304 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 4: stop migrant communities interacting with the police in any way. 305 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 8: Right. 306 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 4: This obviously has look not a big police fan, but 307 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 4: like in cases like domestic file, right, sometimes people need 308 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 4: to go to the police to be safe, and they're 309 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 4: not going to do so they think that means they 310 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 4: or people they love will be deported and this will 311 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 4: have negative consequences, and specifically in cases like domestic violence, 312 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:15,359 Speaker 4: and we know this. There is plenty of evidence for this. Nonetheless, 313 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 4: this is continuing anyway. What's also continuing is our obligation 314 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 4: to pivot to act, which we should do. 315 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 9: Now, Okay, we are back. 316 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 4: We're back, and it's time to talk about the Supreme Court. 317 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 3: Do we have to? 318 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, we do, Garython, because it's the biggest court. 319 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 4: It's the big one, and they've been crushing it all week, 320 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 4: just just sending down decisions. The two big ones, I 321 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 4: guess I want to talk about are a five to 322 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 4: four ruling that it was vacating Boseberg's trro Bosberg being 323 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 4: the judge who had intally told the United States government 324 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 4: that had to stop sending people to set court right. 325 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 4: And then the US had ignored Boseberg and done it anyway, 326 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 4: and then they had this whole court case about how 327 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 4: they hadn't ignored him in any way. 328 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 3: It was a secret. 329 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 4: Even though we're tweeting it, you can go back a 330 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 4: couple of eds and hear about that. In this decision, 331 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 4: the Court was unanimous in asserting that people removed under 332 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 4: the Alien Enemies Act do have a right to due process, 333 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 4: but that they have to bring a habeas petition. So 334 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 4: like the reason they vacated to tro was that the 335 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 4: case shouldn't have gone to Bosburg, right, that they should 336 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 4: have bought this Havieu's petition. In practice, that's going to 337 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 4: be very hard given the fact that many migrants, even 338 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 4: under the current system, even and the Biden, most migrants 339 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 4: wh didn't speak English didn't have access to legal representation. 340 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 4: So this ruling is still pretty bad. The only thing 341 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 4: that people in the court case wanted to stop was 342 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 4: their rendition to L salbadare right. It wasn't even like 343 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 4: opposed to other forms of removal, it was specific to 344 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 4: this El Salbador situation. The court also sort of cited 345 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 4: k crime all cases as precedent, which is a very different thing. 346 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 4: And it gives us very narrow ruling of the due 347 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 4: process available to migrants rate and it relies on my 348 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 4: having access to a legal team, which could be expensive 349 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:12,880 Speaker 4: and complicated for them. 350 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 2: So this ruling allows Trump administration to send people to 351 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 2: El Salvador as as long as they have the quote 352 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:25,880 Speaker 2: unquote right to do process, which is narrowly defined as 353 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:29,360 Speaker 2: something that not many people will have access to anyway. 354 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, well, summarized. Yeah, you would need to have 355 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:36,439 Speaker 4: like a lawyer on retainer to file your habeas right 356 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 4: leg straight away. 357 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 2: So if that just doesn't get filed, then you are 358 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 2: basically in their view forfeiting your due process and they 359 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 2: can deport you anywhere. 360 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 4: Well, they can deport you anyway. Yeah, I guess you 361 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 4: have the right to appeal it, like by saying like 362 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 4: I'm going to file this habeas petition, but most people 363 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 4: an't going to do that, so in practice that they 364 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:01,120 Speaker 4: haven't explicitly ruled on this setcot thing. Right, the Aberigo 365 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 4: Garcia case, which is the other case, a Fourth Circuit 366 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 4: judge required the US to return Abergogarcia to the US, 367 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 4: and then Chief Justice Roberts on his own issued in 368 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 4: an administrative stay, so he is effectively telling them that 369 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 4: Fourth Circuit judge, you can't order them to have him 370 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 4: return right now. We need to take a time out. 371 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 4: We need everybody to get their evidence in order and 372 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 4: then bring that to us. So that case like remains ongoing. 373 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 4: Right in the brief for that case, the government referred 374 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 4: to Abligo Garcia as an enemy alien. But I don't 375 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 4: think MS thirteen is covered by the evocation of the 376 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 4: Alien Enemies Act. I think it was specific to trend 377 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 4: deer Ragua. And then they also claim that they removed 378 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 4: him under the Immigration Nationality Act, not the Alien Enemies Act. 379 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 4: So like, none of this, I guess is hugely surprising. 380 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 4: We're seeing this like sort of post hoc justification of 381 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 4: what they did, right, which is kind of how they operate. 382 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:03,919 Speaker 4: Case still remains ongoing, so we're still we're still going 383 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:07,400 Speaker 4: to hear that one, which presumably will reflect on the 384 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 4: constitutionality of sending people to said cord. But like the 385 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:12,679 Speaker 4: fact that, yeah, they ruled the other case right, the 386 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 4: one that was five to four. It wasn't about whether 387 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 4: seid Cock was legal. It was about where the Bosberg 388 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 4: had the right to make a decision on this particular case. 389 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:24,919 Speaker 4: But it's still not great. Like it looks like the 390 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 4: Supreme Court is doing everything it can to avoid a 391 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 4: face to face showdown with the executive branch because they 392 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,959 Speaker 4: don't want to deal with the consequences of be ignoring them. Nope, 393 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 4: and like we said before, like maybe the only court 394 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 4: that they will listen to is a Supreme Court. Whether 395 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 4: the Supreme Court doesn't make them, then they won't. So 396 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 4: that's where we're at with that. Not great, not exactly 397 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 4: great at all. Well, do you know what is doing great? 398 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 4: The economy? And for more on that, I think it's 399 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 4: time for Tariff Talk with mia Wan. 400 00:19:53,560 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 3: Wait wait wait, Tariff Talk. Jazz Rocky Jazz, bart Lack 401 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:10,199 Speaker 3: rocky jazz, rocky. 402 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 6: Jazz bo. 403 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 3: Ah, yeah, every day, every time we do it. 404 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 8: The only band that matters is the only band that matters. 405 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 8: The Narcissist Cookbook doing a very brief refrain from Rock 406 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 8: the Chasm, the worst clash song by a white margin. 407 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:32,159 Speaker 4: The only clash song from hm plagar in Operation Desert Storm, 408 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 4: which major stach Strummer cry, a real catastrophe. 409 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 2: Do you know what is in a catastrophe? 410 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 9: The economy? 411 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:41,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, how's it going? 412 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 6: So I just I just saw a wonderful chart where 413 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 6: someone was like, ah, this is this is one of 414 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 6: the eight best days the SMP has ever had, And 415 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 6: every single other one of those days is like nineteen 416 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 6: twenty nine, nineteen thirty one, age. 417 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 4: To Whooh, it's one of the best days. From Mount 418 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 4: Saint Helen's Equality. Yeah, yeah, it's so good. 419 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:08,239 Speaker 3: So all right. 420 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 6: The teriff situation as of two forty three pm Pacific 421 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 6: time on April ninth, is that there is. 422 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 4: Mine going good. It's gotta be cool. Guys, don't worry 423 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 4: about it. 424 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 6: Okay, So there isn't one hundred and twenty five percent 425 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 6: tariff on all goods from China? 426 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 9: Is that bad? 427 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 6: I uh, you know, there's a bit that I cut 428 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 6: here where I was gonna say about how like at 429 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:40,400 Speaker 6: fifty four percent, I was like, we've entered the part 430 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 6: of the map where it just says here there'd be dragons, 431 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 6: and one hundred and twenty five percent there's not even 432 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 6: dragons there that they didn't even think to put that 433 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 6: on the map as an unknown region. 434 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 1: Hi, this is Mia from the future. It is now Thursday. 435 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 1: One of the problems with attempting to do this episode 436 00:21:56,480 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 1: is that we are learning the teriff rate from in 437 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: real time. So it turns out that the actual tariff 438 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: right on China, as as clarified by by Donald Trump today, 439 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: is one hundred and forty five percent. And also it 440 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: has become clear that the twenty five percent turf tariffs 441 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 1: on both Mexico and Canada are also still in effect. 442 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 3: So yay. In medical terms, it means what happened to 443 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 3: the global economy is equivalent to you getting hit directly 444 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 3: in the spine by an F two fifty going forty 445 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 3: five miles an hour. That's that's that's what's happened to 446 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 3: the base of the global economy. 447 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, and I mean it's it is very funny that 448 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 6: like a lot of people have been focusing on the 449 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,479 Speaker 6: bond stuff because you can just look at the tariff 450 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 6: numbers and it's like like, yeah, okay, seeing a one 451 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:51,959 Speaker 6: hundred and twenty five percent tariff on all goods from 452 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 6: China and then looking at the bond markets to figure 453 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 6: out if that's bad or not is like like is 454 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 6: like walking outside into a blizzard and being like, whoa 455 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 6: my need the weather rather tell me if it's knowing, like, 456 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:01,959 Speaker 6: what are we doing here? 457 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: What are we doing here? 458 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:07,119 Speaker 3: The reason I'll explain, like briefly, treasury bonds are the 459 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 3: underpinning of every country, the entire global economy. Every single 460 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 3: country has a shitload of money in US treasury bonds 461 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 3: because they are the most reliable thing. And what a 462 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 3: treasury bond is is you give money to the US 463 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 3: government and they say, in a period of time, you 464 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 3: can take this out and it will have grown by 465 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 3: a set percentage. Because treasury bonds have been for the 466 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 3: last basically a century so incredibly stable. This is where 467 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 3: you put your money that you don't want to gamble, 468 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 3: so you have money that is in stocks and stuff 469 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 3: that can go up and down, but you also head 470 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 3: your bets by having a bunch of this. And you know, 471 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 3: generally treasury bonds are hopefully enough to about keep pace 472 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 3: with inflation or beat it by a little bit. But 473 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 3: usually the rate is not all that high because there's 474 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 3: a shitload of demand. People are always buying treasury bonds. 475 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 3: When the treasury bond rate, which is the percentage you 476 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:01,400 Speaker 3: get back, raises, that may look good, right, they're like, wow, 477 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 3: you get five percent now on if you put money 478 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 3: into a into a thirty year TA bond. But what 479 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 3: that means is that everyone is selling their treasury bonds. 480 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 3: So demand is down and the rate is higher, and 481 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 3: everyone is selling them because entire countries at a time 482 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,880 Speaker 3: are pulling their money out. Nations are pulling their money 483 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 3: out of the US economy. 484 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 6: It's great, yeah, and we are going to get more 485 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 6: into how throw administration wants to fuck with that later, 486 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 6: But first off, programming note, programming note. I am going 487 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 6: to be from this episode forward referring to all of 488 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,919 Speaker 6: these as the turf tariffs, because fuck them and because 489 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 6: these tariffs are in a large part also about a 490 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 6: bunch of really weird fucking masculinity bullshit. 491 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 3: So God excited for that. 492 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, And when you make most of your election ads 493 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 2: being about yeah, trans people, and then and then and 494 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 2: then the economy goes to the toilet. This is this 495 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 2: is what was voted for. 496 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 6: Like, if if you wanted transphobia, this is what you wanted. 497 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:56,640 Speaker 6: You want you wanted to lose your job, You wanted 498 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 6: everyone to lose their fucking hope. 499 00:24:57,920 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 3: Speaking at Tea Bonds, am. 500 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 2: I right, let's skip over that immediately. 501 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 3: No, no, no one law for him, go away? Okay, okay. So, 502 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 3: so the most the most chaotic. 503 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 6: Thing happening here, other than Robert randomly saying things, is 504 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 6: that nobody knows what the tariff situation is going to be, 505 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 6: just even just on Friday when you're listening to this, 506 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 6: right you, By the time you were listening to this, 507 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 6: there could be two hundred percent terriffs on Indonesia. There 508 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 6: could be four thousand percent terrorists in Vietnam. 509 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 3: We don't know. No, Trump could have dissolved the US 510 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 3: dollar and we're all using the fucking d whatever, like 511 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 3: I know, I don't. 512 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:43,199 Speaker 6: Know, yeah, and like you know, so, so it's all 513 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 6: really unstable. We can talk about the other things that 514 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:47,479 Speaker 6: are still in effect, so that there's a general ten 515 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 6: percent tariff on all countries except for China are just 516 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,679 Speaker 6: supposed to have a general ten percent tariff. There's also 517 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 6: the per Megan Cassellos, a CNBC reporter, there are twenty 518 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 6: five percent tariffs on steel, aluminum. 519 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:02,880 Speaker 3: And cars. 520 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 6: There's probably going to be more. He keeps talking about 521 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 6: more tariffs, and it's like, who knows where they're gonna happen, 522 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 6: like maybe pharmaceutical semiconductors. But the Liberation Day tariffs, turf 523 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 6: tariffs are currently on. 524 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 2: Hold for ninety days at least as of right now. 525 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 6: Yeah. 526 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, and the and the quote unquote reciprocal tariffs have 527 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 2: been lowered to ten percent for me at least, it's 528 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 2: unclear as of recording. On Wednesday, Trump said that this 529 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 2: is a fact, this is in effect immediately. It's unclear 530 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 2: if those ten percent tariffs are also on hold for 531 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 2: ninety days. 532 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 6: No, I think the temper said ones are in effect 533 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,120 Speaker 6: right now, but it's really hard to tell because he's 534 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 6: just saying shit. 535 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 2: And yes, it's very hard to tell, which is I 536 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 2: ain't saying it, he's truthing it, because yes, sorry, he is. 537 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 4: He is true social ing that this information that is 538 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 4: how we have to work out the global economic future. 539 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,400 Speaker 4: It's based on posts. I'm true social Yeah, so so okay. 540 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 6: And one of the things, one of the things that's 541 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 6: been happening with with the turf tariffs is that like 542 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 6: the media is just is reporting things as true that 543 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 6: are just clearly obviously a lie. So one of the 544 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 6: ones that's been going around and that the media is 545 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 6: reporting a Trump has said is that he said he's 546 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 6: going to pause tariffs on countries that don't retaliate, except 547 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 6: we know that's a lie because the EU already imposed 548 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 6: retaliatory tariffs. But the EU's turf tariff rate is like 549 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 6: already down to ten percent, just like everyone else. So 550 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 6: we know that Trump is lying about his rationale for 551 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 6: the rollback of the turf tariffs, right, and every single 552 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 6: fucking media outlet is still just reporting it because nobody 553 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 6: fucking knows how to do freaking reporting anymore, we should 554 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 6: move to what this is going to do the supply chain, 555 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 6: And to put this in perspective, when I learned about 556 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 6: the one hundred and four percent tariff on China, that 557 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 6: was before it was one hundred and twenty five percent 558 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 6: where it's at now, I was writing an episode called 559 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 6: the Old Economy is Dead, which will probably still be 560 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 6: coming out on Monday. Again, that was the fifty. 561 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 3: Four percent rate. 562 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 6: I was writing a thing called the Old Economy is 563 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,919 Speaker 6: Dead at one hundred and four percent, Like things are 564 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 6: going to break in the supply chain that only seven 565 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 6: people on Earth have ever heard of before, Like entire 566 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 6: sectors of the economy are going to be annihilated. 567 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 3: We're going to see right. 568 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 6: Now, we're probably going to see everyone attempt to route 569 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,399 Speaker 6: like all shipping from China. There's going to be a 570 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 6: massive effort to try to reroot it through like literally 571 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 6: any other country. But again that's only a solution for 572 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 6: like you know, ninety days, and and again it's not 573 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 6: even clear that that can work. I mean, I'm already 574 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 6: seeing a bunch of reports swamp business as being like, yeah, 575 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 6: we're fucked because and that was the four percent tariffs 576 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 6: and at one hundred and twenty five percent, Entire industries 577 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 6: are non viable. Now, it's maybe possible that if it 578 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 6: was just these tariffs and an all Chinese shipping was 579 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 6: able to be routed through some other country, maybe we 580 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 6: would only have a regular economic collapse, like a like 581 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 6: you know, like an early two thousands tech bubble collapse, 582 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 6: and not like a two thousand and eight one. But again, 583 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 6: that's the same thing that note moti war tariffs go 584 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 6: into effect. Now. The problem is that we went through 585 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 6: this with the ninety day pauses on the Mexican tariffs 586 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 6: and the Canadian tariffs, and then after ninety days everyone 587 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 6: assumed that they weren't going to go to effect again, 588 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 6: they just went to effect. So the odds are of 589 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 6: that the absolutely catastrophic turf tariffs from like Liberation Day 590 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 6: are going to go into effect in about ninety days, 591 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 6: right that that's probably what's going to happen. There's probably 592 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 6: going to be some attempts to negotiate them down, but 593 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 6: like again, those absolutely catastrophic tariffs which are going to 594 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 6: just fucking annihilate the entire world economy, are probably going 595 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 6: to go into effect. And you know, part of what's 596 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 6: happening here, right, is that so the markets are doing this, 597 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 6: they're like dead cat bounce, right, And a lot of 598 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 6: this is because they haven't actually stopped to think about, 599 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 6: like how much American manufacturing and contra every argument everyone 600 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 6: is making about this, there is actually a lot of 601 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 6: manufacturing still in the US, but all of it relies 602 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 6: on Chinese imports and various stages of invadio stage are 603 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 6: auction and they're fucked. And I haven't even mentioned yet, 604 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 6: by the way, the sort of caption to all of 605 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 6: this is that China is doing an eighty four percent 606 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 6: retaliatory tariff on all American goods, which is going to 607 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 6: just fuck massive portions of American agriculture. We've talked a 608 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 6: lot on the show about soybean exports. It's going to 609 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 6: be absolutely catastrophic. We're going to go more into this 610 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 6: on Monday. But you know, the thing that's clear from 611 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 6: this is that these people don't see the economy as 612 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,959 Speaker 6: real in the way that you and I do, Right. 613 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 6: They simply don't, you know, we look at the economy 614 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 6: as something where we have to have a fucking job 615 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 6: so we can go to work, so we can come 616 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 6: home and fucking buy food for our families and pay 617 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 6: our rent. And they think it's a fucking joke, right, 618 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 6: They think it's a fucking masculinity signifier and they think 619 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 6: it's it. Like they look at tariff rates and they go, 620 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 6: this is just a number on a fucking page. And 621 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 6: that's why the tariff rate is now one hundred and 622 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 6: twenty five percent on China because it doesn't None of 623 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 6: this shit is real for them at all. Now do 624 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 6: you know what is real? No, the products and services 625 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 6: support this. Ye ye, yep, we are back now. 626 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 3: Okay. 627 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 6: One of the things that I've been seeing a lot 628 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 6: of is there are a lot of arguments about whether 629 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 6: there was some kind of plan here. Trump has claimed 630 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 6: that he was going to roll back the terrorists all along, 631 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 6: and no, he wasn't. Just no, he's just lying. He's 632 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 6: just going by the seat of his pants. And I 633 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 6: can prove that there is no plan here by moving 634 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:36,239 Speaker 6: on to the second thing that I want to talk 635 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 6: about here, which is a speech given by Council of 636 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 6: Economic Advisors Chairman Steve Myhren at the Hudson Institute. So 637 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 6: this is this is again the the the Council of 638 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 6: Economic Advisors is a federal agency that is like their 639 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 6: their job is to provide economic advice to the president, right, 640 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 6: and their chair gave a speech where he argues, and 641 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 6: this is something that like I I Hey, Jesus fucking Christ, 642 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 6: we were talking about, okay, the fact that every fucking 643 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 6: country on Earth has US Treasury bonds. We were talking 644 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 6: about this earlier, right, the status of the US dollar 645 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 6: as the global reserve currency. This guy is arguing that 646 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 6: that is actually a public good that other countries. 647 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 3: Should pay us for. 648 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 6: He wants to force countries to fucking pay taxes to 649 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 6: the United States for holding US Treasury bonds. 650 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 3: And again, if any nation on Earth could pay to 651 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 3: have their currency be the global reserve currency, there's no 652 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 3: amount they wouldn't pay. Like, the degree to which this 653 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 3: benefits you was ridiculous, Like the fact that you want 654 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 3: to charge other people for it. It's nothing. 655 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 6: It is like, Look how this like actually works, right, 656 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 6: is that every single other country on Earth is forced 657 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 6: to buy American debt, which is what a bond is, right, Yeah, 658 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 6: And this allows the US to carry out even more 659 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 6: spending without inflationary effects every single other country. 660 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 3: Everything is based on this, Yes, it's just it's. 661 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 6: All forced on on like other countries having to stockpow 662 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 6: US dollars, like the literally the entire global economy. The 663 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 6: US is advantage in the entire global econy is that 664 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 6: every single other fucking country on Earth needs US dollars. 665 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 6: Part of this is to buy oil. And part of 666 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 6: this is again because the dollar is the fucking reserve currency. 667 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 6: It's the currency that fucking trade is done in, and 668 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 6: the assets that you hold is is like is the 669 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 6: fucking US bond. The anthropologist David Graeber called this in 670 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 6: his book Debt the First five thousand Years, a tribute 671 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 6: system that again, every country in the world is forced 672 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 6: to buy US bonds. The US government has just like 673 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 6: fairly explicitly like did this in the Reagan administration, does 674 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 6: this other times, like has just fairly explicitly leaned on 675 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 6: countries and been like, you're buying a fucking a fucking 676 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 6: bunch of US bonds now, right, Like this is this system. 677 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 6: The status of the dollar of the world reserve currency, 678 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 6: is the entire lattice that supports and spreads the American Empire, 679 00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 6: and these fucking clowns one of people to pay taxes 680 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 6: on the tribute that they are. 681 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:04,239 Speaker 3: Paying to us. 682 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 6: This is not by Trump from Elon Musk right, this 683 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 6: is the guy these people brought in to be their economist, 684 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 6: to do economic policy. 685 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 686 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 6: There there is no limit to their stupidity. There is 687 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 6: no rock of sanity upon which the tide of madness 688 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,840 Speaker 6: will crash. Everything we have seen, we have seen so 689 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 6: far is just a prelude to an infinite abyss of stupidity, 690 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 6: so mindnumbingly incomprehensible it will shatter our minds like a 691 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 6: snowflake and a hurricane. You can no longer think to yourself. 692 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,720 Speaker 6: They cannot possibly be this stupid. They are thinking thoughts 693 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 6: even gods can not comprehend. They are attempting to drain 694 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,760 Speaker 6: the sea by shouting at the moon. They are trying 695 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:48,840 Speaker 6: to wipe their ass with pine cones. 696 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 3: There is no five. 697 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 6: Dimensional plan here. There is not even a man behind 698 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 6: the fucking curtain. There is only an infinite sea of cruelty, malicon, 699 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 6: stupidity trying to drown us all for the crime of 700 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 6: attempting to ext in the world we're born in. The 701 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:05,280 Speaker 6: reality of the men who rule the American Empire. 702 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 9: Is this. 703 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,280 Speaker 6: It is so terrifying that everyone from the most powerful 704 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 6: CEOs on the planet to the fucking day traders running 705 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,360 Speaker 6: the stock markets to broke left the ship posters recoil 706 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 6: in horror and try to construct meaning and some kind 707 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 6: of like anything, any kind of strategy, any kind of 708 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,280 Speaker 6: strategic reason why anyone could possibly be doing this, because 709 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 6: the existence of a plan, literally any plan, no matter 710 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 6: how evil it is, is preferable to this, which is 711 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 6: that the largest economy in the world, the most powerful 712 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 6: empire of the world has ever seen, is being run 713 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,840 Speaker 6: by the dumbest people who have ever fucking lift and 714 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,240 Speaker 6: they are doing this because they are evil and they're stupid. 715 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, there's absolutely like yeah, yeah, no, nothing else 716 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:48,760 Speaker 3: to say. Really. 717 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 2: I think one of the things that is underpinning this, 718 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,280 Speaker 2: which you can pick up on if you are cursed 719 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 2: enough to listen to enough of these speeches and enough 720 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 2: of their of their talking heads podcasts, is like this 721 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 2: reoccurring trend in which these people really need to be 722 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,759 Speaker 2: victims in order to in order to politically succeed, which 723 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 2: is an accuation that's usually thrown against you know, woke sgws. 724 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 2: But like before the election, right, it was this idea 725 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 2: that that because because of the dem corrupt elite establishment. 726 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 2: You know, everyday Americans are are are victims of this, 727 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 2: of this hidden cabal of Democrats that that are ruining everything. 728 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,239 Speaker 2: But but now that these people are in charge of 729 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:31,839 Speaker 2: of of the United States, the people who are victimizing 730 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 2: us is just the entire world, right, the entire world 731 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,720 Speaker 2: is ripping off the United States by using our dollar, 732 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,920 Speaker 2: by by doing trade with us. They are somehow ripping 733 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 2: us off, like we are the victims of this global scheme. 734 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,280 Speaker 2: And it's hurting you at the average blue collar worker, 735 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:52,239 Speaker 2: and it's making women adopt managerial positions and and this 736 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,759 Speaker 2: is this is what's actually is the core of of 737 00:36:56,120 --> 00:37:00,080 Speaker 2: your oppression. And even even even when they win, and 738 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,360 Speaker 2: even when they control the country, they can't let go 739 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 2: of this victim status. They have to have someone ripping 740 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 2: them off in order to justify them doing just incomprehensible 741 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 2: stupid power grabs. And it is very much linked to 742 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:17,320 Speaker 2: like this like masculine signifier. It's very odd, like like 743 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 2: the way that people are trying to trying to justify 744 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 2: losing so much money in the stock market. It's by 745 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:26,440 Speaker 2: re posting a clip of some like Australian women dancing 746 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:30,320 Speaker 2: on dancing on TikTok in like an office building, and 747 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:34,919 Speaker 2: they're like, well, you know, tariffs are are are much 748 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 2: better than having to deal with women in the office, 749 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:38,279 Speaker 2: am I right now? 750 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:39,399 Speaker 3: Women having a joke? 751 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:41,360 Speaker 2: This is this is this is how they this is 752 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 2: how they justify it. 753 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,239 Speaker 3: At least we don't have woke. It's worth it to 754 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,239 Speaker 3: not be able to afford food. If THEO is the 755 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:52,240 Speaker 3: global long house, that's a deep cut down long house 756 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:56,399 Speaker 3: is burnt down. Sure, because the long House is burnt down, 757 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,920 Speaker 3: we're now exposed to the elements and all of our 758 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,439 Speaker 3: food story story are gone and it's about to snow 759 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 3: eighteen feet. But at least the long house. 760 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,480 Speaker 4: The long house with your am nephew in it, that 761 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,839 Speaker 4: you hate and owned you at Thanksgiving, it is gone. 762 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 2: Shout out to your nephew. 763 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess what's the nibbling? Nibbling is a correct 764 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 4: non binary appollition. 765 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,840 Speaker 2: In other news, last week, President Trump said that he 766 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 2: would be quote unquote honored for the President of l 767 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 2: Salvador to take US citizens, which he calls American grown 768 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 2: and born criminals and put them into SEACOT. The terrorism 769 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 2: confinement center, which is essentially a prison work. 770 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,440 Speaker 3: Camp YEP, that no one gets released from. 771 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, Trump said, quote, why should it stop just at 772 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 2: people that crossed the border illegally? On quotes, But it 773 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:49,360 Speaker 2: shouldn't stop that she shouldn't be there at all. And 774 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:51,440 Speaker 2: and his James already mentioned seventy five percent of the 775 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,800 Speaker 2: immigrants sent to sea caught don't have a criminal conviction. 776 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,839 Speaker 2: These people are not criminals. Now, a few days later, 777 00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 2: the White House presecretary reiterated that this is something that 778 00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:03,080 Speaker 2: Trump is seriously discussing, both publicly and privately. 779 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,279 Speaker 7: So the President has discussed this idea quite a few 780 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 7: times publicly. He's also discussed it privately. You're referring to 781 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:15,320 Speaker 7: the President's idea for American citizens to potentially be deported. 782 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:19,239 Speaker 7: These would be heinous, violent criminals who have broken our 783 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 7: nation's laws repeatedly, and these are violent repeat offenders in 784 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:27,319 Speaker 7: American streets. The President has said, if it's legal right, 785 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 7: if there is a legal pathway to do that, he's 786 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 7: not sure. 787 00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:31,160 Speaker 6: We are not sure if there is. 788 00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,399 Speaker 7: It's an idea that he has simply floated and has 789 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:37,319 Speaker 7: discussed very publicly. As in the effort of transparency, now. 790 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 2: One of the last things we're going to discuss is 791 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 2: an update on DHS and ICE efforts to deport students 792 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:48,359 Speaker 2: across the country. Me and James did an episode last 793 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 2: week which is still pretty relevant, but all of the 794 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:55,480 Speaker 2: numbers have increased dramatically since that episode. As of Tuesday night, 795 00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,799 Speaker 2: April eighth, ninety two student visas have been revoked at 796 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:03,600 Speaker 2: California University, fifty at UC campuses, and thirty six at 797 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:07,840 Speaker 2: California State University campuses, with six more at Stanford. Also, 798 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,360 Speaker 2: as of April eight, fifty student visas have been revoked 799 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:14,320 Speaker 2: at Arizona State University, with multiple students now in iced attention. 800 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,600 Speaker 2: Lawyers for these students believe that upwards of one thousand 801 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 2: visas have been revoked across the country. A map on 802 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:25,800 Speaker 2: inside higher ed dot com shows four hundred and nineteen 803 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:29,400 Speaker 2: confirmed instances of student visas or in some cases, green cards, 804 00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 2: being revoked by Secretary of State Mark Rubio across thirty 805 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:36,640 Speaker 2: four states, and as of Wednesday, April ninth, visas for 806 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:40,040 Speaker 2: eighteen international students have been revoked at the University of Utah, 807 00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,880 Speaker 2: with these students and recent graduates received letters from the 808 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:46,920 Speaker 2: Trump administration instructing them to quote unquote self deport immediately. 809 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:51,000 Speaker 2: At Utah State University, more than thirty students have been impacted, 810 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,000 Speaker 2: according to the university administration. 811 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,239 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm aware of at least one UCSC student who 812 00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,399 Speaker 4: is detained at the border and immediately deported. And also 813 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:03,160 Speaker 4: where the UCOP uc officer the president right a statement 814 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 4: about the impact of service terminations across its campuses. But 815 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:11,080 Speaker 4: the UCSD Guardian, in a dub for Student Journalism, reported 816 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:16,280 Speaker 4: that UCSD convened an emergency meeting before this of faculty 817 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:21,040 Speaker 4: and it knew about the revocations or that the service changes, right, 818 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:25,080 Speaker 4: they were revocation of their student status, and it was 819 00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:29,440 Speaker 4: reluctant to act because it hadn't received guidance from UCOP yet. 820 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,839 Speaker 4: So we're seeing this from a lot of university administrations, right, 821 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:34,880 Speaker 4: they don't know how to respond. I did see that 822 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,600 Speaker 4: the University of Arizona was helping fund some of the 823 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,759 Speaker 4: legal fees of their students, which is more than many 824 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,279 Speaker 4: universities are doing as of now. There seems to be 825 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,360 Speaker 4: no pattern of prior rest for the people who have 826 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 4: had their status has changed, But in some cases, it 827 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,800 Speaker 4: seems that in some university systems. All of the people 828 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,560 Speaker 4: who have lost their status are either Chinese, Indian, or 829 00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:57,280 Speaker 4: from majority Muslim countries. 830 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,360 Speaker 6: One other thing I wanted to close out is episode 831 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,040 Speaker 6: on So we have an episode out about this already. 832 00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,719 Speaker 6: But one of the things that ICE has been doing 833 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:09,080 Speaker 6: has been targeting migrant farm worker labor organizers. 834 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:09,640 Speaker 3: They have. 835 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,480 Speaker 6: I'm basically just kidnapped, like just straight up broke this 836 00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,840 Speaker 6: guy's window in his car and dragged him out. A 837 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:21,120 Speaker 6: guy named Alfredo Quarez is known as Lalo. He is 838 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:25,520 Speaker 6: an organizer for Familias you need Us Legisticia in Washington, 839 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,799 Speaker 6: and there is going to be a protest. This will 840 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:31,719 Speaker 6: be Saturday, the twelfth. That will be tomorrow as you're 841 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,839 Speaker 6: listening to this, on Friday at Portland City Hall at 842 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,719 Speaker 6: two pm. Organizers are also asking that you call the 843 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:42,840 Speaker 6: Washington Attorney General to demand pressure be put on everyone 844 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:46,759 Speaker 6: to release him. Yeah, if you want to hear more 845 00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,400 Speaker 6: about that, there is I have an interview with an 846 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:55,719 Speaker 6: organizer who works with them, and yeah, it's real fucking bad. 847 00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:59,920 Speaker 6: The scale of the repression has been increasing. It's not undefeatable, 848 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:03,960 Speaker 6: and this is a this is a tangible thing that 849 00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:07,879 Speaker 6: you can do to try to stop them. But yeah, 850 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:12,239 Speaker 6: it requires movement now, and yeah, do this now before 851 00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:12,879 Speaker 6: it gets worse. 852 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,799 Speaker 2: To update another topic of the episode me and James 853 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:21,400 Speaker 2: did last week, we mentioned that DHS was seeking input 854 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:25,560 Speaker 2: for installing a new program to screen the social media 855 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:29,799 Speaker 2: activity of people applying for immigration benefits for what would 856 00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:33,440 Speaker 2: they label as anti semitism. And this policy is now 857 00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:38,360 Speaker 2: in effect. This applies to quote unquote, aliens applying for 858 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:42,120 Speaker 2: lawful permanent resident status, foreign students, and aliens affiliated with 859 00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:49,120 Speaker 2: educational institutions, possibly also people applying for citizenship. To quote 860 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:53,080 Speaker 2: the DHS Assistant Secretary of Public Affairs, Trisha McLaughlin, quote, 861 00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,120 Speaker 2: there's no room in the United States so for the 862 00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,719 Speaker 2: rest of the world's terrorist sympathizers, and we are under 863 00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,960 Speaker 2: an obligation to admit them or let them stay here. 864 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,000 Speaker 2: Secretary Nome has made it clear that anyone who thinks 865 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,359 Speaker 2: they can come to America and hide behind the First 866 00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:10,120 Speaker 2: Amendment to advocate for antisemitic violence and terrorism, think again. 867 00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,440 Speaker 2: You are not welcome here. Unquote. The web page for 868 00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:17,760 Speaker 2: this new policy states, under this guidance, USCIS will consider 869 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:22,320 Speaker 2: social media content that indicates an alien endorsing espousing promoting 870 00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:26,680 Speaker 2: or supporting anti Semitic terrorism, anti Semitic terrorist organizations, or 871 00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:30,200 Speaker 2: other antisemitic activity as a negative factor in any discretionary 872 00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:33,400 Speaker 2: analysis when adjudicating immigration benefit requests. 873 00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:35,319 Speaker 4: So essentially, this. 874 00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,520 Speaker 2: Means that if you've posted anything that is in support 875 00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,719 Speaker 2: of Palestine or criticizes the Israeli government, this will be 876 00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,280 Speaker 2: now used against you if you are applying for visa, 877 00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,440 Speaker 2: if you are applying for a green card, if you're 878 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,000 Speaker 2: applying for citizenship and already live in this country as 879 00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:54,360 Speaker 2: a permanent resident lawfully. So just a wider net of 880 00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:58,360 Speaker 2: social media surveillance. Four h forour Media put out a 881 00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:03,160 Speaker 2: good article on when Day about a palanteer system that 882 00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,360 Speaker 2: ICE is using to look for immigrants and people in 883 00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:09,600 Speaker 2: this country, which allows them to select for specific attributes 884 00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:13,279 Speaker 2: with a pretty intense filtering system. So yeah, this is 885 00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,799 Speaker 2: ongoing and we will continue to report as such. 886 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:20,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, everybody, Well until next week, please don't 887 00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:23,719 Speaker 3: go to an El Salvador in prison camp if you 888 00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:24,360 Speaker 3: can avoid it. 889 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:26,160 Speaker 2: We reported the news. 890 00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,839 Speaker 3: Great, we reported the news. 891 00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:39,879 Speaker 4: It could happen. 892 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,319 Speaker 5: Here is a production of cool Zone Media. For more 893 00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:46,080 Speaker 5: podcasts from cool Zone Media, visit our website. Coolzonmedia dot 894 00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:49,680 Speaker 5: com or check us out on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, 895 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,799 Speaker 5: or wherever you listen to podcasts. 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