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Speaker 7: We'll start positive. Chris Finch is the new head coach

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Lee, what do you think about? You know, all

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Speaker 3: He was forty three and ninety three in his Wolves tenure,

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Speaker 8: So what do you think, Well, it comes down to

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Speaker 8: If you look at their offense, I mean they were

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Speaker 5: Up to that.

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Speaker 4: That's what it looks like to me here.

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Speaker 8: And Ryan Sawn does, I mean, I think he was Honestly,

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Speaker 3: I won't disagree with that, but they've got a good

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Speaker 3: don't think that helped Driyan Saunders' chances of sticking around there.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, you know, it's the classic. We can get

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Speaker 3: what was your big takeaway from this firing and then

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Speaker 6: Yeah, a way that the Timberwolves got to hiring Chris Finch,

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Speaker 7: It is strange that Vanderpool didn't move a few seats over.

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Speaker 5: Won that game again?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: So probably good point. Yeah, I forgot about that, Lee.

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Speaker 3: I can't believe you haven't dropped a finchy yet on

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Speaker 8: I've been getting plenty of tweets and messages of that

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Speaker 3: Forever, funny. I do like that he is now at

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Speaker 7: Oh?

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Speaker 6: It was a winner take all kind of Sunday skeets.

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Speaker 7: and now he's their defensive stopper. You see him flop

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Speaker 3: What a brutal call.

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Speaker 5: That's a brutal call.

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Speaker 7: like it was the first quarter. He didn't even take

432
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Speaker 7: a shot, and and and so he kind of flopped

433
00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:45,000
Speaker 7: and just expected to get a superstar call and he did. Anyways,

434
00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:48,160
Speaker 7: Harden flopped. He's their defensive stopper, and all is good

435
00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:51,240
Speaker 7: in Brooklyn. They the Clippers didn't deserve to win this game.

436
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Speaker 5: They came back.

437
00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:53,639
Speaker 7: It was really weird seeing Paul George sit on the

438
00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:57,840
Speaker 7: bench for the last three minutes, this managing his minutes.

439
00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,040
Speaker 7: Come on, just play him the rest they came I

440
00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:02,199
Speaker 7: want to see Clippers nets here at the end. And

441
00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:05,520
Speaker 7: seeing those flailing legs from Steve Bomber old game, Yeah,

442
00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:08,359
Speaker 7: it's even weirder seeing a you know, see Bomber chairing

443
00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,480
Speaker 7: like an animal. Of course he's great at that, but

444
00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:14,280
Speaker 7: when there's nobody, everybody around him, one guy in a

445
00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:19,679
Speaker 7: chair just going to space.

446
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Speaker 3: Yeah, what'd you think of that one?

447
00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:21,760
Speaker 1: Ley?

448
00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,240
Speaker 8: I like seeing Kyrie Irving throw down a two handed dunk.

449
00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,760
Speaker 8: I don't remember seeing that one before him. In my

450
00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,680
Speaker 8: time watching Kyrie Irving and James Harden, I'm going to

451
00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:32,679
Speaker 8: go out on a limb here. He is your Eastern

452
00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:37,640
Speaker 8: Conference player over the week for the last week. Yeah,

453
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Speaker 8: I mean it has to be him, because honestly, James

454
00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:43,399
Speaker 8: Harden has been incredible to watch. I think too that

455
00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:45,520
Speaker 8: because the criticisms that people like me have had of

456
00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,399
Speaker 8: him in the past is that he's not always esthetically

457
00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,520
Speaker 8: pleasing to watch the way that he goes hunting fouls

458
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Speaker 8: in that But these last few games against the Lakers,

459
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Speaker 8: and if you go back to that Sun's game earlier

460
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Speaker 8: in the week, he's been incredible to watch and the

461
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Speaker 8: way that he has just kind of already meshed together

462
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Speaker 8: and found under rapport there with Kyrie Irving. Because if

463
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Speaker 8: you look at that game yesterday Clippers and the Nets,

464
00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:06,920
Speaker 8: that's almost the Spider Man meme come to life, because

465
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Speaker 8: I think there are similar similarities between those teams that

466
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Speaker 8: you know, if things are going great for the Nets,

467
00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:13,960
Speaker 8: they look great. They look like they're all on the

468
00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,560
Speaker 8: same page. That's having fun if they do drop a few,

469
00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:17,960
Speaker 8: and we've seen it a little bit in the past.

470
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Speaker 8: I think it was that Pistons game. You know, James

471
00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:22,560
Speaker 8: Harden gets into a little bit with DeAndre Jordan, So

472
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Speaker 8: I think it could be still combustible. But when they're

473
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Speaker 8: playing well and playing the way they are on the road,

474
00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,040
Speaker 8: big road trip here against some really good teams and

475
00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:32,480
Speaker 8: coming away winning and James Harden establishing himself as clearly

476
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Speaker 8: the best player on the court in these last few games,

477
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Speaker 8: I think it's a very good sign here for Brooklyn.

478
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Speaker 4: And I know that Kyrie and James Harden have.

479
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Speaker 8: Talked about it before about coming together and trying to

480
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,119
Speaker 8: find the best way to play. And really, you know,

481
00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:45,960
Speaker 8: talkie is cheap. You go out and see them on

482
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Speaker 8: the court, and I think that's really what's happening. So

483
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,560
Speaker 8: this is great for Steve Nash. Right now, they are

484
00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,440
Speaker 8: still giving up a lot of points to some teams,

485
00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,880
Speaker 8: so the defense still needs some work, but overall, there's

486
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Speaker 8: clearly been improvement on that end of the court, and

487
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Speaker 8: they are a pretty tough prospect right now. If you

488
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Speaker 8: want to look at the Eastern Conference. I don't think

489
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,440
Speaker 8: there's a better team than them in the Eastern Conference,

490
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Speaker 8: especially when Kevin Durant comes back. If as we as

491
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Speaker 8: we always say, if they will stay healthy. So really

492
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Speaker 8: good signs here for Brooklyn.

493
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Speaker 3: It's so funny to think back before the hard and

494
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,480
Speaker 3: Trade people wondering like, does Harden still have it? Will

495
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Speaker 3: he be able to go back to being like the

496
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Speaker 3: MVP like Harden? Like remember that was an actual conversation

497
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Speaker 3: and Trey, I'm very happy to say that we were like,

498
00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,800
Speaker 3: do not fall for this. I mean, as soon as

499
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Speaker 3: he goes to a team, especially like the Nets, Yeah,

500
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 3: Harden's gonna go back to MVP like Harden. He has

501
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,879
Speaker 3: totally checked out. If you're watching Rockets games, he does

502
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 3: not give a f he will he will want to

503
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 3: obviously prove the dotors and the haters wrong and stuff

504
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:42,879
Speaker 3: like that, and that's what he's doing here. It's not

505
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Speaker 3: there's no shock to me at all. This guy's elite.

506
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Speaker 6: He's proving both the doubters and the haters wrong and

507
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 6: O for too for the doubters and haters. You hate

508
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Speaker 6: to say it, but yeah, not a surprise that he's

509
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,159
Speaker 6: instantly back to being good, And not a surprise that

510
00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,919
Speaker 6: his being at his best is good enough to be

511
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:01,680
Speaker 6: one of the best teams in the NBA. That has

512
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,040
Speaker 6: been the case with James Harden for the past five seasons.

513
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Speaker 6: You know, it's been a matter of just how high

514
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Speaker 6: on the list of players do you have him. It

515
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 6: hasn't been a case of the guy sucks. He's barely

516
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 6: an All Star. He's an MVP caliber player. But I

517
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,880
Speaker 6: thought a guy that was humongous for the Nets last

518
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:20,200
Speaker 6: night was a literal big guy, DeAndre Jordan the revenge game.

519
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 6: Thirteen points, eleven rebounds, he had that tip in. The

520
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:26,240
Speaker 6: Nets were just dominating inside. They outscored the Clippers sixty

521
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:27,960
Speaker 6: to thirty eight points in the paint. A lot of

522
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,399
Speaker 6: that was DeAndre Jordan, you know, just being big and

523
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,120
Speaker 6: being an influence in there. And that's going to continue

524
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,160
Speaker 6: to be a question for both of these teams. How

525
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 6: do the Nets defend inside? How do the Clippers stop

526
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 6: people from scoring inside? Because when you look down the

527
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 6: line at the teams that the Clippers are going to

528
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Speaker 6: be playing in the playoffs, no doubt about it, the

529
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 6: Lakers are going to come up. They've got a lot

530
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Speaker 6: of guys who score in the paint. Same with the

531
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Speaker 6: Nuggets Nikola Jokic, and obviously the Jazz put some pressure

532
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,480
Speaker 6: on the rim as well with Rudy go Baron Donovan Mitchell.

533
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Speaker 4: So yeah, no doubt about it.

534
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Speaker 6: The Clippers are a little softy inside, so maybe they'll

535
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Speaker 6: be looking to beef up come trade dead line.

536
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 3: Iably all right, Lee, who you got for a winner

537
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 3: of the weekend?

538
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Speaker 8: It was a very good weekend for the Phoenix Suns,

539
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:10,440
Speaker 8: in particular Chris Paul. Friday Night, an incredible fourth quarter

540
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,159
Speaker 8: comeback by the Sons. Led by Chris Paul, they outscored

541
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Speaker 8: New Orleans thirty seven to seven at one stage in

542
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 8: the fourth quarter, overturned an eleven point fourth quarter deficit

543
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:22,400
Speaker 8: to a eighteen point victory. I think that's the biggest

544
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 8: comeback to biggest blowout from one for after three quarters

545
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:29,399
Speaker 8: in NBA history. I saw that going around, so incredible stuff.

546
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 8: And Chris Paul nineteen assists in that game, hit some

547
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,359
Speaker 8: big threes. He wasn't the only one in the fourth quarter. Actually,

548
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 8: Cam Johnson Jay crowd are also good, But it started

549
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 8: with Chris Paul, you know, hitting the three. Now, he

550
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,239
Speaker 8: was talking a little trash too, and there was some

551
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 8: people weren't really sure what he was saying about whether

552
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 8: or not he knows this place or he owns this place.

553
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 8: Chris Paul said afterwards, I know this place. I checked

554
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Speaker 8: the tape. Not sure I agree with him, Not sure

555
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 8: I agree with him, but I'll let him off the

556
00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 8: hook because it was, you know, talk about James didn't

557
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 8: have been great. Chris Paul when he's at his best

558
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 8: is incredibly fun to watch. And then on Saturday Night

559
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:06,199
Speaker 8: he really didn't have to do all that much. His

560
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 8: game was over pretty early against the Memphis Grizzly. Grizzlies,

561
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,360
Speaker 8: he had sixteen and six assists, but those six assists

562
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 8: move him to sixth all time in NBA history, overtaking

563
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 8: one of his heroes, Oscar Robinson. Now, the real question

564
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 8: is when Chris Paul is all said and done, where

565
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:25,680
Speaker 8: will he finish in the all time assists legend? And

566
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Speaker 8: he only needs two hundred and fifty to overtake Magic

567
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 8: Johnson for fifth, So I think he can get Magic

568
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,199
Speaker 8: this season. Probably based on the current rate, he's at

569
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 8: about eight and a half a game. So then it's

570
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Speaker 8: Mark Jackson and Steve Nash, which Steve Nash has one

571
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,239
Speaker 8: more assist than Mark Jackson, which is pretty cool. But

572
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Speaker 8: you know, so now he'll probably get those guys, but

573
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Speaker 8: not for not for another season or so. I've got

574
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,400
Speaker 8: him down for there, But will he get Jason Kidd?

575
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Speaker 4: Jason Kidd?

576
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Speaker 8: He's about twenty two hundred behind Jason Kidd for second.

577
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Speaker 8: He needs around about two hundred and seventy five aims

578
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 8: at eight assists per game to get him.

579
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Speaker 4: So do you think seasons? Yeah, do you think he

580
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 4: can get there?

581
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Speaker 8: I mean he's in great shape, his body's in incredible condition,

582
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,399
Speaker 8: He's still playing at a high level. But two one

583
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 8: hundred and seventy five games, I mean that is three

584
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:14,640
Speaker 8: and a half seasons.

585
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Speaker 3: Feel I don't think he's going to reach kid Yeah,

586
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,360
Speaker 3: kids two. I mean Stockton's wine and Stockton Yeah, yeah,

587
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 3: No one's catching Starcke. I don't think so. I think

588
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,399
Speaker 3: I'll finish third all time. Put me down for that.

589
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:25,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so fine.

590
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 8: I think so too, which is which is a pretty

591
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 8: good accomplishment by him. But yeah, man, when you look

592
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 8: at John Stockton, I mean I don't want to be

593
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 8: a hated We're going to go and check over some

594
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:40,399
Speaker 8: of those asist because he's so far. I mean, we

595
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 8: know the jokes out there in that he got a

596
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,439
Speaker 8: bit of home cook it, but he must have just

597
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,680
Speaker 8: like anytime he let go of the ball and someone

598
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 8: else scored, no matter what, I think he was given

599
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 8: it as it's incredible. But anyway, Chris Paul and the

600
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,439
Speaker 8: Phoenix Suns another team rolling again and he you know,

601
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 8: there was some debate about whether or not he will

602
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Speaker 8: be an All Star. Now I think the votes were

603
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 8: probably in before last Friday, so I'm not sure if

604
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 8: that weekend actually has an impact or an effect. But

605
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 8: he if the sun's on the get one for me,

606
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 8: it's him. He's still incredible and yeah, he's still just

607
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 8: performing it at such a high level.

608
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know about those votes because I mean

609
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,120
Speaker 3: starters are announced on Thursday and then you know those

610
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 3: have to be locked in before the coaches can ultimately

611
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 3: make their selections. Okay, you know they probably have Friday, Saturday,

612
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 3: maybe even Sunday. It's got to be in by and

613
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 3: I think they're announced right on Tuesday.

614
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 4: I'm sure tomorrow.

615
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure they want a day to like crunch

616
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:33,679
Speaker 3: the numbers task. But you said on what you need

617
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 3: to know today you know, a lot of guys making

618
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 3: maybe those like Chris Paul, like those late, late pushes

619
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Speaker 3: to convince a coach to get them on the roster.

620
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 3: There was a lot of guys like that, like that

621
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,159
Speaker 3: are borderline, you know. In Chris Paul's case, it's like

622
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 3: him or Booker. Really, I think we all agree one

623
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 3: to them will probably be on there. Unlikely too. But yeah,

624
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 3: all these guys that had monster performances this weekend, know,

625
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 3: Zach Lavine another one. It's like, huh, yeah, that's great timing.

626
00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 3: Have those big games right before someone's filling out their selection, right.

627
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:04,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, and Trey bless you, bless you our Trey. Trey

628
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 7: Young had a monstrous game out there, you know, thirty

629
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Speaker 7: and fifteen, his best game of the season. Is it

630
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 7: a coincidence that these guys are having these games? I

631
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 7: don't think so. Perfect timing. I think all the votes

632
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,880
Speaker 7: are coming in late. Everything in the pandemic is coming

633
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 7: in late. I think these votes are not even in yet.

634
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 7: It's Monday morning here. I think the assistant coaches get

635
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 7: it in Tuesday. I think TNT and the league will

636
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,640
Speaker 7: be tallying them on Tuesday, like minutes before the broadcast

637
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 7: trying to figure. Yeah, it's only like you know, fifteen

638
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 7: coaches for each conference. Coaches only vote for their own conference, right,

639
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 7: it's true? Or do they vote for both conferences?

640
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 3: I've never thought of. They assumed both, but.

641
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 7: Yes, yeah, I'm not sure. Like Chris Finch, he's going

642
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 7: to get in there, he's going to vote. He's going

643
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 7: to vote for Fred van Vliet. He was insistent with

644
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 7: the rest he's in the West.

645
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Speaker 5: Well, maybe you can't vote for him. I don't know.

646
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Speaker 3: This is I guess I always assumed they filled out

647
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Speaker 3: both the East and the West. That's a good point,

648
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 3: and I think those are already and I think, look

649
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 3: at least today, I don't think there's tomorrow today. But

650
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Speaker 3: that's fine. They got Maybe they had last night's games

651
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Speaker 3: there to consider as well.

652
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Speaker 5: I'm wondering.

653
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Speaker 7: I'm wondering Lee, you were able to go to the

654
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Speaker 7: tape after and see that Chris Paul said I own

655
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 7: this place rather than I know this place.

656
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Speaker 5: Aren't those both?

657
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Speaker 7: Oh sounds like I was just watching myself on the camera.

658
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 7: I'm like, how can you tell the difference between I

659
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 7: know this place versus I own this place?

660
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Speaker 8: You just go and look at it, and you really

661
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 8: focus on the pause between the words there and I

662
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 8: can see and I own this place.

663
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Speaker 4: That's all I can see.

664
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Speaker 5: That's all I'm Why would why would he say I

665
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Speaker 5: know this place?

666
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Speaker 3: That's why?

667
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 2: That's what?

668
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 8: Because he lived there or you fight there for six

669
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 8: seasons or whatever, and he was trying to, you know,

670
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Speaker 8: not Mike sort of rub salt into the wounds there and.

671
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Speaker 5: Will Yeah, but I get that. But yeah, he owns

672
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Speaker 5: it for sure and knows it.

673
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Speaker 3: And just with the Pelicans, you know, they would have

674
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 3: probably been a loser of the weekend if they didn't

675
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 3: come through there on Sunday, or was the Celtics. I

676
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 3: just liked that Stanman Gundy went to Zion down the

677
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 3: stretch in that game because a few days ago, a

678
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 3: few games ago, you'll remember, you know, they let Brandon

679
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 3: Ingram work and the ball just never found its way

680
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 3: to Zion in any of the action in the last

681
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 3: couple of plays, and you're like, what the hell's going on?

682
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 3: Guy missed like three shots up to that point. You

683
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 3: got to get him involved. I don't care if he's shooting.

684
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 3: It has to be involved. On Sunday, what down one

685
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 3: oh six one oh five with about ten seconds ago.

686
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 3: Kept it simple, make it simple, Zion limps and he

687
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 3: caught the ball like off a screen from Ingram, faked

688
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 3: a little hand off to to Lonzo and he took

689
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 3: a straight at Tristan Thompson drew the foul layoff goes in.

690
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 3: You know, smart, just give it to Zion. I'm gonna

691
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 3: like your chances of the look you're going to get

692
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 3: or putting pressure on the defense. So that was a

693
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Speaker 3: nice That was a huge talk about comebacks, right Lee,

694
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Speaker 3: I mean yeah, you said the epic meltdown on Friday night,

695
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 3: the Pelicans had up eleven heading into the fourth losing

696
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 3: by eighteen, which seems unreal. But this one. They were

697
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 3: down twenty four points to the Celtics on Sunday, like

698
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 3: they look dead in the water, and then they go

699
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 3: in this crazy run from the midway through the third

700
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Speaker 3: quarter and gets it into overtime after that beautif Tatum

701
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 3: shot and got the victory. That's a huge that's a big,

702
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 3: big victory. They needed that.

703
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 4: You know.

704
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Speaker 3: Maybe that sort of like turns their season around or

705
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 3: saves their season a little bit. But my winner of

706
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 3: the weekend, Tray Cay just helped me out with this.

707
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 3: There's one particular team that is sort of you know, well,

708
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Speaker 3: I don't want to say the word, but you know

709
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 3: where I'm going here. The Raptors are back. Yeah they are.

710
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 3: Maybe that's right. I can finally talk about the Toronto

711
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 3: Raptors again. I had a rule when they were sub

712
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 3: five hundred. Now we'd been talking to him a lot

713
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 3: and people get tired of it because you know, Leellis

714
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 3: drops a home around me all the time. I said, okay,

715
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Speaker 3: I won't talk about the Raptors until they're back to

716
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Speaker 3: five hundred or they're involved in a trade, because that's when,

717
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 3: like the drum and rumors were flyting around. Well, what

718
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 3: a good week or last especially weekend for the Raptors.

719
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Speaker 3: After back to back wins with the Bucks last week,

720
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Speaker 3: they picked up two more victories over the weekend. Takes

721
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Speaker 3: a large part to their defense and they are back

722
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Speaker 3: over five hundred. Here they come. They beat Minnesota on

723
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Speaker 3: Friday night. The score was eighty six eighty one. Now

724
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 3: we'll get to uh, you know, obviously the highlight from

725
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 3: that game, but that is insene to see. Uh, you know,

726
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 3: we we obviously are watching a ton of games you know,

727
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 3: catching up on games we miss and stuff like that,

728
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 3: and that just jumps out at eighty six eighty one

729
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 3: what they call it after the third quarter, like what

730
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 3: the hell's going on over there? But they got it

731
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 3: done with defense. It wasn't pretty. And then on Sunday, though,

732
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 3: the more impressive win, they slowed and bed down and

733
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 3: they held on to get the victory over the Sixers

734
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 3: ten one oh three. Van Vliet hitting some crazy threes.

735
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 3: Chris Bouche catching fire in this one. He had seventeen

736
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 3: points over the final fourteen minutes, five threes. He was like,

737
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 3: all right, you guys are gonna play me like this, Yeah,

738
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 3: and B Dwight gonna come out on me. No, okay,

739
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 3: I'll take my crazy ass like catapult shot and knock

740
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 3: it down. Slim duck there hitting five threes. So big,

741
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 3: big Raptors week, big weekend, and they're and they're back.

742
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 3: They really are and crazy. They're six and O with

743
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 3: O Kyle Lowry because yeah, he wasn't playing in this.

744
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 3: Van Vliet making a very I think too late push,

745
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 3: you know, sort of for All Star consideration. He'll get

746
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 3: some votes. I don't think he'll ultimately make it. But

747
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 3: looking good in that defense and you know, getting it's

748
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 3: getting back to that intensity that we've seen from them

749
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 3: over the last couple of years and then just really

750
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 3: locking in and they did in this one, especially after

751
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 3: the Sixers were up, so that was good. And you know,

752
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 3: nurse Man, he throws stuff at the wall og gets

753
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 3: the start versus the Sixers, they go small against your

754
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 3: like a huge Embid and Sixers team. But then you know,

755
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 3: a lot of beans, a lot of Bouchet, you know,

756
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 3: just switching it all up, throwing different looks at him, Beid,

757
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 3: making life difficult for him, tasks as a Raps fan.

758
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 3: Pretty damn good stretch here from the Raptors getting back

759
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,239
Speaker 3: to again sort of the Raptors of old. In how

760
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 3: they're winning some of these games.

761
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Speaker 7: I thought, I don't know how you can measure intensity

762
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 7: with modern analytics, but they have turned it up to

763
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 7: be able to guard and bead, you know, decently well

764
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Speaker 7: with Chris Busch. I'm sorry, not Chris Bouche to start,

765
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 7: but Ojan Andobi and Pascal Siakam to start guarding him

766
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 7: decently well, just a lot of bodies coming at him. Yeah,

767
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 7: I think I think they knew, Hey, we're small. We

768
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 7: got to show bodies, you know. It was a little bit,

769
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 7: a little bit like they've guarded Giannis in the past.

770
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 7: Just just have a ga right there at all times

771
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 7: to help out. And then yeah, at the end of

772
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 7: the game, Aaron Baines is a is a basketball player

773
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,239
Speaker 7: all of a sudden. I mean, he looks like he

774
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 7: can he can play. And then him and Chris Bouchet

775
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 7: where the tag team at the end, and Embid was

776
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 7: rattling in shots that normally he would make. But that's

777
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 7: that's that's just a sign of the Raptors wearing him down.

778
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 7: I think, you know, by the end of the game,

779
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 7: they did a good job of just focusing on him.

780
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 7: It was a weird that the Raps won this game.

781
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 7: I think Fred van Vliet was really the key, the

782
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,240
Speaker 7: way he brought them back from dead in that first quarter.

783
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 7: But yeah, there's there is an intensity level to go

784
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 7: from two and eight to sixteen and fifteen. That's intensity, baby,

785
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 7: That is that is the Raptors of old.

786
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,280
Speaker 3: I saw the Raptors started two and eight, the Celtics

787
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 3: started eight and three, and the Raptors have a better

788
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 3: record than the Celtics right now. Sorry, to the Bean

789
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 3: Town boys out there. Wow, that is officially being back

790
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 3: when you're ahead of the Celtics, and you know, i'd

791
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 3: beating the Bucks like this was good because they're beating

792
00:34:57,960 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 3: like these good teams. And then they have that weird

793
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,359
Speaker 3: game against the Walls, but they still pull it out.

794
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 3: And yeah, the Streakers going here, and a lot a

795
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 3: lot of it with el Kyle Lowry. At times there

796
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 3: are leally fan vleet Is he's I mean, you know,

797
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 3: I think if you ever had reservations about the contract

798
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:13,959
Speaker 3: they gave him, canvamply be a starter in this league?

799
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 3: I think that's gone. I mean, it's like it's not

800
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 3: a concern. He is one of the better, one of

801
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 3: the better, despite his size limitations, better guards still in

802
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 3: the league. You know, he is maybe not elite elite,

803
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 3: he's not maybe all NBA. I don't think he'll ever

804
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 3: maybe make it. Maybe. I don't know. That's what he

805
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 3: wants me to say, right because he wants me to

806
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 3: like doubt him because he wants so better on himself.

807
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 3: But uh, I got no problems with that contract and

808
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 3: moving forward with him as your point guard of the future.

809
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 8: I think that contracts looking like a bargain, to be honest. Yeah, yeah,

810
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 8: I mean I think he is a very important two

811
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 8: way play. He stays, he's a little bit like a

812
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 8: little bit like it Damian Lillard. He doesn't get too emotional,

813
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 8: he doesn't get too high and low. He stays in

814
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 8: the moment he hits those shots. He has a lot

815
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 8: of belief in himself. He goes there there, works hard

816
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 8: on defense, and if if another guy's hot, he tries

817
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 8: to find that guy. So he's a very composed point guard.

818
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 8: And I like that for the Raptors. And you know,

819
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 8: this game against the Sixers is a big game. Was

820
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 8: a big game because Simmons and Embiid both played, which

821
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 8: was great because that's what you want to see. And

822
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 8: we're going to see that again tomorrow night and another game.

823
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 8: So it's almost going to be like a little playoff

824
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 8: series here to see. Now, how does Doc Rivers adjust?

825
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 8: Does he make an adjustment? Does he say, Okay, if

826
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 8: you're going to go O G again, you know, in

827
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 8: the starting line up, then Joel, I just want to

828
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 8: park you in the paint and throw your weight around insight,

829
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 8: because that's what he has done at times this season.

830
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 8: Mbad has just been like, I'm too big and strong

831
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 8: for pretty much anyone.

832
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 4: So let's see if that's what Doc Rivers does.

833
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 3: It's not too big and strong for Beansy.

834
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 8: No, well, Bainsy was the embead stopper when he was

835
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 8: in Boston there too, remember, So Bainsy is just a

836
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 8: big lump of a fallow.

837
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,800
Speaker 4: So yeah, but he can't I mean, he can't just

838
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 4: throw him around.

839
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:52,240
Speaker 8: That's one of the guys he can't bully because Aaron

840
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 8: Baines is a lot closer in his physical stature to

841
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 8: what Embid is.

842
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 3: So he's lake in that.

843
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,879
Speaker 8: Yeah, exactly, exactly so, but you know that's what that's

844
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 8: what actually. You know, when we talked about this season

845
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 8: and how these the schedule is going to be, it

846
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 8: was kind of like, I don't know if that's going

847
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:09,320
Speaker 8: to be any different or it's going to make an impact,

848
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 8: But this is kind of good. Now It's like, Okay,

849
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 8: it's back into you know, Tampa, so it's in Toronto's

850
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 8: home game and the Sixers going up against a team

851
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 8: they could potentially face in the playoffs. This this one

852
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 8: now is like a meaningful regular season game. So I'm

853
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 8: really looking forward to seeing that tomorrow night.

854
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 3: Tomorrow night, great stuff, a good those are our NBA

855
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 3: weekend winners. I'm sure we're missing some, So let us

856
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 3: know in the stream team, let us know on Twitter

857
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 3: at no dunk sank. Let's know in the YouTube comments

858
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 3: as well, because there's a lot you could have obviously

859
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 3: picked from. But let's take a quick break before we

860
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 3: get to our losers. The weekend NBA weekend losers tas

861
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 3: why don't you get started? Where do you want to go?

862
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 7: Well, we saw the dunk of the year on Friday.

863
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:54,959
Speaker 7: Anthony Edwards brutally, violently, savagely dunked on Utah Watanabe.

864
00:37:58,400 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 5: It was nasty.

865
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:03,280
Speaker 7: It was nasty and the combination of Anthony Edwards getting

866
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 7: up at the right time Utah not being in position

867
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 7: to block it, so he just looked like he was,

868
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 7: you know, halfway up Anthony Edwards body and just went

869
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 7: down to the floor violently. But the loser isn't Utah

870
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 7: Watsonabi for me in this instance, it's the people asking

871
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,720
Speaker 7: how can Utah watchonab come back from such a violent dunk.

872
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 7: He'll be back, don't worry about it. I think that

873
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:29,760
Speaker 7: this only raises Watsonabi's profile he's a very good basketball player,

874
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 7: and he's too tough for a dunk to knock him

875
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:33,879
Speaker 7: out of the league.

876
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 5: Or whatever you want to call it.

877
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:35,919
Speaker 4: How is he going to come back?

878
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:37,439
Speaker 5: Don't worry. He's good.

879
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,399
Speaker 7: He's a solid basketball player and that's why he's made

880
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 7: it with the Toronto Raptors this year. He's having his

881
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 7: best season so far. We wanted to talk a bit

882
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 7: about this dunk. Sure, let's talk about it.

883
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 5: It was.

884
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 7: It was wild, But for me, I don't I think

885
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 7: Watchnabby is going to be entirely fine. He went up

886
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 7: to block a shot. That's what you do as a

887
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 7: basketball player. He could have turtled, he could have got

888
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 7: on all fours and got the heck out of the poster,

889
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 7: but he didn't.

890
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 5: He went on.

891
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,879
Speaker 7: Yeah, but then Anthony Edwards would have got up even

892
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 7: higher formpelling himself off his back. That would have been

893
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 7: I mean, he was like, he probably should have just

894
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 7: taken the charge, I guess instead of trying to jump.

895
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 5: He was just way too late. But don't worry.

896
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 7: Don't worry about his ego or his his reputation. He'll

897
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 7: be fine because he's a solid basketball player. And Anthony

898
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 7: Edwards has had some great dunks this year. He goes

899
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 7: it doesn't matter who's around, he just kind of goes

900
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 7: up the same way every time, just cocks it. Yeah,

901
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 7: and uh and it looks cool because he gets up

902
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:41,439
Speaker 7: and he cocks it way back.

903
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 5: Hey.

904
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,840
Speaker 3: Zion Williamson take notes on Anthony Edwards. I want to

905
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 3: see this from here.

906
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 5: That was That was awesome.

907
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 3: That is one of the best dunks in a long time,

908
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 3: I think in game lately. I know, like I immediately think

909
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 3: the best one ever still, well, not ever, but like

910
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 3: of I guess what last decade or so, I don't

911
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 3: even know what year it was, but the DeAndre Jordan

912
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:04,839
Speaker 3: on Brandon Nate because and there's the gift member that's

913
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 3: already made of the coffin falling on them and stuff

914
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 3: like that. But it's the falling to the ground which

915
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 3: really always makes a dunk like next level for me.

916
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 3: I only wish Edwards didn't also like fall to the

917
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 3: ground like I wish he sort of somehow managed to

918
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 3: like obviously catch himself and stay up. But uh, well,

919
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 3: where do you rank this one? Lely in the last

920
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 3: couple of years at least, it's gotta be top three, right.

921
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:26,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, for sure.

922
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 8: Definitely the last couple of years. I mean it had

923
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,840
Speaker 8: the definitely the Tracy McGrady on Sean Bradley vibes. They

924
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 8: had the way that he kind of rode in there.

925
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 8: But the way wanton Arby just crumpled, That's.

926
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 3: What it was for me.

927
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 8: It was like and he kind of looks around, and

928
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 8: you know, his teammates don't immediately go to his aid.

929
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 8: They sort of just like, oh, yeah, you just got

930
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 8: eaten then, so we're just gonna have to let your recover.

931
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 3: But I mean, Anthony.

932
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 8: Edwards athletic dude, he got up there, he threw it down,

933
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:54,720
Speaker 8: and I mean.

934
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 4: That's just the way it goes. Sometimes you got it,

935
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:57,240
Speaker 4: you're playing defense.

936
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 8: I'll give him credit once a dare he's playing defense,

937
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 8: he's contesting the dunk. Sometimes you get got We saw

938
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 8: Yannis got dunked on by Rudy Gobert just last weekend,

939
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 8: you know, when he was contesting it.

940
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 4: So it happens.

941
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 8: But it's the way that you know, when the bodies

942
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 8: connect and it's like want to be just like it's

943
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 8: almost like he got shot there, you know, like he

944
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 8: he's like, whoa, what the hell happened. Man, that was crazy.

945
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 8: So yeah, I mean, like remember when Dwayne Wade dunked

946
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 8: on Anson Varazel and his legs went up behind his

947
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 8: head like that. I mean that that was a great

948
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 8: dunk as well, where the guy's body just collapsed. So

949
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 8: I think this one's not as bad as that because

950
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 8: it just looked like Varazelle, you know, just like really

951
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 8: bounced off Wade and there was a big crowd.

952
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 4: I was in Miami.

953
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 8: Everyone's going crazy. So yeah, but this one special dunk.

954
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 8: And there's been a few compilations of Edward's going around

955
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,800
Speaker 8: this weekend. All his dunk's are pretty much that style.

956
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 8: It's just he finally caught a real body on one.

957
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, Trey, what do you think of the dunk? And

958
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 3: actually the followed on Twitter? I want to ask you

959
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 3: about too. You know, we hadned Duncan was trend on

960
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 3: Twitter because one it tweeted, you know, not that maybe

961
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:06,839
Speaker 3: impressed by the dunk or was trying to point out

962
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,720
Speaker 3: that Edwards is struggling in this game. But all everyone

963
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 3: wanted to talk about.

964
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 5: Was the dunk. Was very.

965
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 6: On this podcast, we like things, so shout out to

966
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 6: this dunk because it was awesome. The I love it.

967
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 6: I love to see somebody react to their own dunk,

968
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 6: to know that they what they just did was special

969
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:29,319
Speaker 6: because just like DeAndre Jordan on Brandon Knight when he

970
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 6: like reacts, he's like, that was scary for you, this

971
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,919
Speaker 6: was Anthony Edwards just smiling up a storm after the dunk.

972
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 6: I love that all of his reactions are just like, man,

973
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:41,959
Speaker 6: this is awesome to be in the NBA doing really

974
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 6: cool stuff because it was. I mean, he's almost lucky

975
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 6: that Wada Navi was there because that could have been

976
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 6: a violent landing for Anthony Edwards, but luckily he had

977
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 6: the cushion underneath him. That looked like it could have

978
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 6: been four torn acls between the two of them, but

979
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 6: somehow they both survived the high speed collision there at

980
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 6: the top of the rim isolent stuff. I think we'll

981
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 6: see more of it from Edwards, no doubt about it.

982
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 5: He's uh.

983
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 6: The cockback he does is similar to me to like

984
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,879
Speaker 6: a DeMar de Rosen dunk as well, the way he

985
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:09,879
Speaker 6: pulls it way back.

986
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 5: But I don't know.

987
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 6: I think Edwards can out jump tomorrow, even rookie tomorrow.

988
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 6: That's crazy stuff, man, The way he gets up so easily.

989
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 3: That's funny you said that, because I immediately thought, I

990
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,879
Speaker 3: think it was DeRozan. I think it was on Chris

991
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 3: Bouchet where he like gave him like the rock bottom

992
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 3: I called it. Remember, like them both like dropping to

993
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 3: the to the ground. It wasn't as you know, he

994
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 3: wasn't coming baseline if I remember correctly, more down the

995
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,280
Speaker 3: middle and then like but like you said, like that

996
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 3: that cock and back nature of it and just the

997
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 3: violence in it and the hawks obviously, Yeah, that's sort

998
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 3: of what reminded me of, just the way they dropped

999
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 3: to the ground, both of them. But yeah, huge, huge dunk.

1000
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 3: And again I tweeted this, but my favorite part of

1001
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,240
Speaker 3: the whole Nate Dunkers thing is that his name is Duncan.

1002
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 3: I just really makes me laugh, And I'd love to

1003
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 3: hear Danny Laruez thoughts on the dunk.

1004
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 7: Well, we're out of here, but I'm glad we didn't

1005
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 7: say that Anthony Edwards stepped out of bounce.

1006
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 3: Oh we didn't mention it. Yeah, you think he did.

1007
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 3: I thought it was maybe his heels above, but you

1008
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,399
Speaker 3: think it's it touches the line there at one point.

1009
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 7: I don't know if the ref is looking directly at it.

1010
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 7: But I think the ref made a quick decision. I

1011
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 7: see watching Ivy over there. I think we could have

1012
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 7: a Dunk of the Year candidate not gonna blow this whistle.

1013
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 3: I like that Bembery Bembory like basically apologized to watch

1014
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 3: he put him in that position. I mean a brutal

1015
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 3: like a brutal attempt at a steal, like just like

1016
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 3: you know, obviously a ridiculous attempt at it. And then

1017
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 3: he's going baseline. He apologized.

1018
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 8: He felt a bit differently than when Blake Griffin put

1019
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 8: I think he put a putback over power gasol and

1020
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 8: Andrew Binham's face.

1021
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 4: Remember there was the camera of Andrew bid.

1022
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 3: Big big dunk. That's gonna be tough to beat for

1023
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 3: a Dunk of the Year candidate. That will be very,

1024
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 3: very difficult. Bar is really high with that one. All right, Lee,

1025
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 3: let's go to you loser.

1026
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 8: The weekend, Oh how the weekend could have been different

1027
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 8: for the Golden State Worries. Friday night, they were down

1028
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 8: thirteen in the then leading by third, sorry, down seventeen

1029
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 8: and the third to leading the Magic by thirteen with

1030
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 8: nine minutes to play, but the Warriors couldn't close it out.

1031
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 8: Vouch killed him in that fourth court had a triple double,

1032
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 8: eight points, four assists in the fourth, closed it out

1033
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 8: at the free throw line. Practice for free throws kids,

1034
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,439
Speaker 8: and look forward to him being named an All Star

1035
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 8: reserve this week. The Magic really defended Steph well too.

1036
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 8: On that last possession he just made two threes and

1037
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:25,959
Speaker 8: then it was almost like that three in Game seven

1038
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,839
Speaker 8: against the against the kaz he just quite couldn't quite

1039
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:31,839
Speaker 8: get that space, threw it up and they missed, and

1040
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:33,760
Speaker 8: the Magic went on to win that game. Then on Saturday,

1041
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 8: and Stephan was actually a late scratch, so he didn't

1042
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 8: play in Charlotte, but the Warriors led the Hornets by

1043
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 8: ten in the final minutes, up five with fifty seconds

1044
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 8: to go, Kelly you Bray hits a three, blows a

1045
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 8: kiss to the Hornets bench. Does not get a technical

1046
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 8: foul though on this.

1047
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 3: One, but then technical fouls are to come.

1048
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 4: Oh man.

1049
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 8: Then Terry Rozier, who again was brilliant in this game,

1050
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 8: he hits a three. It was a two point game

1051
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 8: and the Warriors had the ball. Wiggins missed a three,

1052
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,879
Speaker 8: but then old Sketz He's made one to Maker, gets

1053
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 8: the rebound, and he gets tied up in a jump

1054
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 8: balls caught. I thought that one fine. I thought that

1055
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 8: was the right call. I don't think there was a

1056
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 8: foul there. So they called the jump ball. Now after

1057
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 8: it took about honestly fifteen minutes for them to decide

1058
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:14,720
Speaker 8: who was in that jump ball. I don't know how

1059
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 8: it took so long, but it went on and on

1060
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 8: and on forever. Anyway, it was one to Maker and

1061
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:22,280
Speaker 8: LaMelo ball for the jump. Then there was a scrappy

1062
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:25,720
Speaker 8: no one had clean possession. Gordon Hayward probably had most

1063
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 8: of the possession, but I don't think he had clean possession,

1064
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 8: and James Borego did get a time out, and the

1065
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 8: Warriors were not happy about that, in particular Draymond Green.

1066
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 8: So at this stage, I'll just remind people too, the

1067
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 8: Warriors were trailing, were leading by two points. We're leading

1068
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,720
Speaker 8: by two points. Draymond Green loses his mind, gets two

1069
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 8: technical fouls, gets ejected. Terry Razia goes to the free

1070
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 8: throw line for two free throws, hits them both, ties

1071
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 8: the game up. It's still Hornets ball. After the tech foules,

1072
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 8: they get possession. Terry Razier goes down and hits the

1073
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 8: game winning shot as time expires. So the Warriors end

1074
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 8: up losing this game as well, and a lot of it.

1075
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 8: I mean, I'm not going to point at all on

1076
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:12,319
Speaker 8: Draymond Green, but absolutely he was very unprofessional for a

1077
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 8: guy with a high basketball like you to get himself.

1078
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 8: Now you can maybe argue whether or not two technical

1079
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 8: fouls were warranted. One I think certainly was because you

1080
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 8: see him really screaming at the refs, but he gets two,

1081
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 8: he gets ejected. Rosie goes to the line and hits

1082
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 8: it and ties the game up. Now, if Rosier misses

1083
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 8: that next shot, you go to overtime and Draymond's out

1084
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 8: of the game. For that, you know your best player

1085
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 8: when Steph Curry is not there, is out because he

1086
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,879
Speaker 8: threw a tantrum. And Steve Kerr talked about after the game.

1087
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 8: He said he crossed the line so the Warriors. And

1088
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 8: again one technical foul could have still cost the game

1089
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 8: for the Warriors. I mean, none of them could have

1090
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 8: still cost If terror Zi hits a three, maybe as

1091
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 8: time expires, but still it gave the Hornets that that

1092
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 8: safety net of like, even if Rosie misses that last shot,

1093
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:58,839
Speaker 8: they were going to overtime and Draymond you know, wasn't

1094
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 8: in the game, but instead Rosie hits it, and Eric

1095
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 8: Collins is just fantastic on the call. He's so much

1096
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 8: fun to watch. He was so excited when Draymone got

1097
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:09,240
Speaker 8: ejected to by the way, which is great.

1098
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:13,280
Speaker 4: But yeah, so really, a really bad weekend.

1099
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 8: For the Golden State War is to lose two games

1100
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 8: from extremely winnable positions.

1101
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 3: Yep, I would agree with all of that. I mean,

1102
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 3: and again, I think Cousins is right, Like it was like,

1103
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 3: hold on, how's the timeout being called there? Like the

1104
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 3: guys are like battling for it, Like both guys have

1105
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 3: their hands on it. It's probably I think, the wrong call.

1106
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 3: But yeah, to them, just like, man, cool down for

1107
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 3: a second, Like you're going to cost your team, and

1108
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 3: you did you hurt your team? Because what did you

1109
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 3: think too? You were going to like by yelling at them,

1110
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 3: we're going to convince them to change their mind. It's

1111
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:43,320
Speaker 3: like pretty unlikely, Draymond, So yeah, yeah, you're right. Kurr

1112
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:44,799
Speaker 3: was like, I love it. We love his passion, we

1113
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 3: love his fire, but you can cross a lot of

1114
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 3: times and hurt your team. More than help them, and

1115
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 3: that's exactly what he did also with that whole thing Lee.

1116
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 3: I wanted to bring this up because I heard Simmons

1117
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 3: and Riscilla talking about it on their podcast. Games taking

1118
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 3: forever at the end because of these like look at

1119
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 3: replays and looking at who's who's tied up who It's

1120
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:07,280
Speaker 3: getting out of control, man, it is. It is killing.

1121
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 3: These guys were going off on it. I one hundred

1122
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 3: percent agree with them. It's too far. These games are

1123
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 3: taking like at times like ten minute breaks, ten minutes

1124
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 3: of nothing happening except us watching a replay, and then

1125
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 3: we go to commercial. But that's brutal for like obviously

1126
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 3: like trying to get casuals into it, even people that

1127
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,919
Speaker 3: are more into the sport. It's not it's not good.

1128
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 3: I get Look, the pushback is like you want to

1129
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 3: get it right, you want to get right. Half the

1130
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 3: time they don't even get it right. They still go

1131
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:34,360
Speaker 3: and look at it and you're like left like scratching

1132
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,280
Speaker 3: your head, you know. With the heart on one for example,

1133
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 3: it's like, what are we doing here? I'm missing the

1134
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 3: game was a little faster at the end because tests

1135
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 3: you're always telling us it's a quick game. But it's

1136
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 3: starting to slow down, man, it really is with all

1137
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 3: these reviews, every play, everybody's doing this. Let's go look

1138
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 3: at it. Yeah, where's the Lee gift there? JD. It's like, ah,

1139
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 3: come on, alrighty am I alone in this. I guess

1140
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:57,879
Speaker 3: I'm not because Simon and Roscillo feel the same way.

1141
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:00,080
Speaker 3: But it's get It does feel like I'm starting to

1142
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 3: check out at the end of games when I should

1143
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 3: be most excited, but on the opposite, because it's like

1144
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,400
Speaker 3: it's just to a crawl tray. Yeah, but what is

1145
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 3: the other option?

1146
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 6: Because I mean, it seems to me that the solution

1147
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:16,439
Speaker 6: to all this is make replay faster, Like they got

1148
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 6: to have a shock clock on replay because you're not

1149
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:20,959
Speaker 6: gonna take away replay at this point, you know, because

1150
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,879
Speaker 6: they're gonna still show replays on the broadcast saying, hey, look,

1151
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 6: the referee missed this call. You're still seeing the replay

1152
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 6: when it comes down to it, so we might as

1153
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 6: well at least get the call right, because I don't know,

1154
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 6: it definitely slows the game down, but you want to

1155
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 6: get it right, so I don't know, just figure out

1156
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 6: a way to do it quickly. That you know, it

1157
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:40,399
Speaker 6: feels like there are so many times that you can

1158
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 6: see the replay and everybody in the world knows exactly

1159
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:46,280
Speaker 6: how it's gonna go. Once the replay finally gets decided

1160
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 6: and ruled on, but it still takes another five to

1161
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 6: six minutes extra. Maybe we give them to twenty four

1162
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 6: seconds shot clock. Say hurry it up, hurry it up,

1163
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 6: Zach Zarba, we got a game to play here.

1164
00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 3: Oh, it's just this this dance of like okay, everybody's like, oh,

1165
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 3: let's go look at it. Okay, now we go over.

1166
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 3: Now we turn around the monitors, we get the headphones on.

1167
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 3: Now as a broadcast, we're looking at it a hundred times. Oh,

1168
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:11,240
Speaker 3: let's go to a remote camera shot of these guys

1169
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 3: in Siccacas. Okay, there they are. Oh yeah, they're all

1170
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 3: huddled around. Let's go back and look at it. Let's

1171
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 3: debate it on the broadcast. It goes on and on

1172
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 3: and on at times where you're like, what I forget

1173
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 3: sometime like where you'll check out, like you'll start looking

1174
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:25,919
Speaker 3: at Twitter and you're like, oh my god, they're still

1175
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 3: not playing yet. Tasks, like they're still not back to playing.

1176
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 3: They haven't decided on the call. Yet how like train's right,

1177
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 3: how is it taking this long? If it's taking that long,

1178
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 3: then just go with the call on the floor at

1179
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 3: that point, you know what I mean? Like, I guess

1180
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 3: you're just trying to find different angles and they're trying

1181
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 3: to rack them up. I'm not saying they have an

1182
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 3: easy job, but like, I think it's doing more harm

1183
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 3: than good I guess, is my point.

1184
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, And it's been a thorn in the NBA side

1185
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:54,320
Speaker 7: for a long time. Adam Silver has wanted to correct

1186
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 7: it for years, even before reviews were taking a long time,

1187
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 7: he knew that the biggest issue was the last three

1188
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:04,360
Speaker 7: minutes of the game taking like fifteen minutes. And he

1189
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 7: said it prior to prior to reviews taking this long.

1190
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 7: Basically when he took the job, he knew that the

1191
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 7: end of games has to get faster for the fan

1192
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 7: at home. It has to be done remotely, entirely. I

1193
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 7: don't see why refs even look at anything on the floor.

1194
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,840
Speaker 7: Just do it all remotely. Brad want to make it faster,

1195
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 7: and that's all we have, That's all we should be

1196
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 7: worrying about is how does it get faster? And I

1197
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 7: think the only resolution is secaucus do everything. The floor

1198
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 7: should not do anything. It just it takes too long

1199
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 7: to find my headset. Am I going to flip over?

1200
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 7: Might put my R on my l? My L on

1201
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 7: my r, you know, like, don't worry about that. Just

1202
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 7: worry about refing the game.

1203
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 5: And that's it.

1204
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 3: Wa what do you think anything?

1205
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1206
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 8: I told this, Yeah, I mean the thing was as well,

1207
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 8: this was for a jump bowl, just deciding he was

1208
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 8: in it.

1209
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 3: And I just know too, right that actually almost doesn't matter.

1210
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,800
Speaker 8: Yeah, exactly. And there are times where it looks like,

1211
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 8: oh it might be on this angle, look like it

1212
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 8: came off this guy.

1213
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 4: Maybe not.

1214
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 8: So there are times where it does take a little bit.

1215
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:05,399
Speaker 8: This should not have taken as long as it did,

1216
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:07,760
Speaker 8: like when you're watching it, like just everyone can see

1217
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:11,279
Speaker 8: now listen on Saturday as watching Liverpool versus Everton in

1218
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 8: the socker and there was well, there was a controversy

1219
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 8: there for a penalty. The referee ran over looked at

1220
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 8: the replay once and said, yeah, penalty and ran back

1221
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 8: like he didn't need to have twenty five different angles

1222
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 8: and he was by himself. He just ran over to

1223
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 8: the VR, Yeah penalty and went back and gave Everton

1224
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 8: the penalty. So the thing is other sports have seemingly

1225
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 8: figured things out how to get things moving quickly, but

1226
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 8: in this case, in particular, there should have been someone

1227
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 8: who just said it's it's lamello and it's want to

1228
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 8: make it.

1229
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 4: That's it.

1230
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 8: Just go for it, you know, you don't need to

1231
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 8: go back and forth. And then you see Kelly Youubra

1232
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 8: as well, like and Mike Brown and Steve Currents, you know,

1233
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:46,799
Speaker 8: lining up where guys go for the job.

1234
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 4: They bring this guy over here. I know it's important

1235
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 4: you want to get possession. I understand that, but it's

1236
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:51,799
Speaker 4: a jump ball.

1237
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 3: It's so random, Like I mean, I know there's skill

1238
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 3: to it. I get that, but yeah, look, I think

1239
00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 3: we can do this better. Why don't we just shoot

1240
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:02,800
Speaker 3: for it. It'd be way more entertaining, way more entertaining,

1241
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 3: and like I'll even go as far like you get

1242
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 3: to pick, like the other team is to pick who

1243
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:08,359
Speaker 3: they want or whatever, Like they could pick the worst

1244
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 3: shooter on the floor at the time. I don't care. Like,

1245
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 3: shoot for it. It's over. Let's roll like like we

1246
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:14,879
Speaker 3: do out on the courts. Man, that'd be fun too.

1247
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 3: Like obviously they're starting to pressure, obviously mounting and stuff

1248
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:21,440
Speaker 3: like that. Anything is better than looking at people looking

1249
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 3: at a monitor for ten to fifteen minutes. It's brutal.

1250
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 3: It's not good for the game. I'm sorry, and we

1251
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 3: love it, you know. And that's what Simmons and Maristil

1252
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:30,720
Speaker 3: are saying, like we love the NBA, but this is bad.

1253
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 3: This is just not good as from a broadcast standpoint.

1254
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:35,879
Speaker 3: But all right, I'm gone to get that off my chest.

1255
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 3: Let's go to tray loser the weekend. Here are you going?

1256
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:42,800
Speaker 6: I might need another Jiff request here, JD, because it

1257
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:46,240
Speaker 6: feels like just yesterday, Lee was wearing a sex Land

1258
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 6: t shirt around the house, telling his kids all about

1259
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 6: Darius Garland and Colin Sex. Then Andre Drummond was racking

1260
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 6: up the big beefs. The Calves were the feel good

1261
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 6: story of the league, but a tough weekend for Cleveland.

1262
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 6: They lost to the Nuggets on Friday. This was Jamal

1263
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,879
Speaker 6: Murray's fifty point game, Nikola jokicch triple double as well.

1264
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 6: They lost on Sunday to the Thunder thirty one points

1265
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:14,319
Speaker 6: for shake Gil just Alexandra potential All Star. That's now

1266
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:18,240
Speaker 6: ten straight losses for the Cleveland Cavaliers.

1267
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 3: It happened fast.

1268
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 6: I mean Colin Sexton, Darius Garland, Jared Allen, they're still balling.

1269
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:28,759
Speaker 6: Jared Allen had a perfect game basically, I think you

1270
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:32,919
Speaker 6: went eleven from the field, had seventeen rebounds. But they've

1271
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:35,240
Speaker 6: got so many injuries right now. They're obviously not playing

1272
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:38,240
Speaker 6: Andre Drummond, Larry Nance Junior is out, Kevin Love hasn't

1273
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 6: played for a while, Torrian Prince is out. But it

1274
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 6: feels like they are just starting over the rebuild again,

1275
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 6: which is kind of bad news considering that a month

1276
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 6: into the season there was at least a little bit

1277
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:52,399
Speaker 6: of buzz for Colin Sexton making an All Star team.

1278
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 6: You know, they looked like they had figured things out

1279
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 6: a little bit playing fast, but teams have figured them out.

1280
00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 6: You just got to take care of the ball and

1281
00:55:58,480 --> 00:55:59,720
Speaker 6: they're not going to be able to get a stop

1282
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 6: on d defense. How a lot of bad teams make

1283
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 6: their defense look good is trap A lot try to

1284
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 6: get those extra possessions from turnovers and scoring in the

1285
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 6: fast break. But not looking good in Cleveland changes to

1286
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:15,879
Speaker 6: come as we speak. You know, they're gonna, no doubt

1287
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:18,240
Speaker 6: about it, be a hot team at the trade deadline,

1288
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:21,319
Speaker 6: hopefully trying to pick up some pieces here, because I mean,

1289
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 6: they've got their three guys and they're all playing all right,

1290
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 6: it's just not making much of a difference.

1291
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:28,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, it feels like just yesterday we had the Calves

1292
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:30,279
Speaker 3: and Kings in the finals, right, we were all high

1293
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 3: on the Sacramento and Cleveland. Boy, things change quickly in

1294
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 3: the league. Glad we talked about the Calves, but we did.

1295
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:36,840
Speaker 7: Ley.

1296
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:38,759
Speaker 3: I'm glad you're wearing sex Land t shirts when you

1297
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:41,319
Speaker 3: were well, that's when we talked about it. Tho.

1298
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 8: It was like we might not be talking about this

1299
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 8: team for much of the season. But they were playing

1300
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:47,320
Speaker 8: good basketball both ends of floor, winning games. The defense

1301
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 8: was their Drummond looked great. The sex Land backcourt was awesome,

1302
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 8: but uh, they were punching a little above their weight.

1303
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 8: But the good news for the Caves is I think

1304
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 8: that they have got a decent backcourt there, so they

1305
00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 8: need some more pieces and they've got some assets to trade.

1306
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:02,240
Speaker 8: So I think, well, this season is pretty much shot.

1307
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:05,319
Speaker 8: I think the future is still somewhat optimistic and bright

1308
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:06,720
Speaker 8: there for the Cavs.

1309
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll see what they can get for drum in

1310
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:12,800
Speaker 3: for a McGee. Maybe even Junior's name has been floated

1311
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 3: around a couple of times.

1312
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:14,760
Speaker 4: I ran the numbers.

1313
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 8: I ran the numbers for Colin Sexton for the All

1314
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 8: Star team. But I couldn't quite make the case for him.

1315
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 4: But I tried. I wanted to.

1316
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 8: Yeah, you know again a few weeks ago, when he

1317
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 8: was averaging like twenty seven a game. I'm like, there's

1318
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 8: a strong case if the team keeps winning. But unfortunately

1319
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 8: both things just cooled off a little.

1320
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, Colin Sexton will not be named to the Aul

1321
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 3: Stars or some Tuesday. I think you can lock that in. Okay,

1322
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 3: so Cal is a loser. I got a few mini

1323
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 3: losers and then we will eventually get to the Cousins news.

1324
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 3: But my mini losers task one to get your take

1325
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 3: on JJ Redick being ejected from the Pelicans win. As

1326
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 3: I said there on Sunday after tossing the ball at

1327
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 3: the referee, I'm quoting the officials here with force. So

1328
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 3: here's the clip for everybody on the stream team. JJ

1329
00:57:56,600 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 3: Redick not happy there. I'm just giving you the ball

1330
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 3: through the bowlder. So yeah, he puts a little zip

1331
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 3: on it, puts a little spin on it because he's frustrated.

1332
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 3: But you know, second one, you're out here here, it

1333
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 3: is all there, and.

1334
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 6: I mean it's a bad pass. It is a bad pass,

1335
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 6: hit him below the knees.

1336
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, listen, I understand why everybody upset about it.

1337
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 7: People saying, oh, it's worse of the week. Had just

1338
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 7: give that referee worse of the week on Friday. I'll

1339
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 7: say a few things. First, JJ Reddick needs a haircut. Second,

1340
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 7: I was watching it. Come on, did you see those sideburns.

1341
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 7: I mean, he knows he needs a haircut. He probably

1342
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 7: just had a haircut appointment he had to get to.

1343
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 7: I'll get tossed. I was watching that game live and

1344
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 7: I thought, what the how is he ejected from this game?

1345
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 7: How is that possible? So I did a little rewind,

1346
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 7: I did a little investigation. Now, the play before JJ

1347
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 7: Redick was called for a tech because he was arguing

1348
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 7: a no call midplay, he was, he was on that referee,

1349
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:57,919
Speaker 7: He was on the same side that the time down

1350
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 7: before the floor, time down the floor or before that.

1351
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 7: He was just yelling at the referee, yelling, yell and yelling.

1352
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 7: He gots a tech and you can see after JJ

1353
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 7: Reddick tosses that ball at him on purpose. It was

1354
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 7: a little passive aggressive toss. JJ Reddick just he did

1355
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 7: it barely, even argues, He's just like, all right, you know,

1356
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 7: I hate that referee and I'm leaving the game because

1357
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 7: I was I was a little bit of a dork

1358
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:22,439
Speaker 7: throwing the ball at him. So I'm not like I'm done,

1359
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 7: all right whatever, see later. Okay, Fine, he knows, he

1360
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 7: knows that he was being a bit of a jerk

1361
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 7: and that he didn't really he didn't need to do that.

1362
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 7: I mean, it's a weird ejection, yeah, and it really

1363
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 7: wasn't warranted. But also yeah, JJ Reddick was just he's

1364
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 7: a little in a little feisty mode. And two times

1365
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 7: down the floor, you just pissed off the referee twice.

1366
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 7: If he was tossing the ball to another referee, he

1367
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 7: wouldn't have done that. He would have just thrown the

1368
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 7: ball at him. So I can see where it comes from.

1369
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 7: But I don't think he's getting worse the week.

1370
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 5: That's all I got.

1371
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 3: Has happened before. I feel like too right lately, I

1372
00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 3: was seeing this type of like second technical off that

1373
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 3: little law too much zip to the pass.

1374
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 4: Right, pretty absolutely.

1375
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:04,760
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I mean referees if they feel they're being

1376
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 8: sort of disrespected or someone's like I think what the

1377
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 8: referee said was like, you're trying to hide behind throwing

1378
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 8: me the ball, but you're really like, you know, you're

1379
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 8: flinging it at.

1380
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 4: Me, that's what you're really doing it.

1381
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:16,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was.

1382
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:18,440
Speaker 8: I mean he put put a nice little bit of

1383
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 8: fact undo spin on it there as well, but you know,

1384
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 8: the rest just don't like you sort of showing any

1385
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:25,800
Speaker 8: sort of descent and the irony is there. Of course,

1386
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 8: the foul was called while JJ was in possession, so

1387
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 8: the reference was giving him the foul, but a little

1388
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 8: bit of carryover. I think very unlucky to get a

1389
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 8: second team be ejected for that, but yeah, we see.

1390
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 3: That was the referee holding a bit of a grudge there.

1391
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:42,160
Speaker 8: Of course, of course it was so and you know like, look, excusey,

1392
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 8: I know you've repped. I'm not sure if you if

1393
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 8: if Trey And although.

1394
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 3: When I wrapped, like one game, is that all fateen

1395
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 3: year old girls. It's the worst job in the world.

1396
01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 8: It's the worst job in the world. And sometimes like

1397
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 8: there's more than just the play prior to that as

1398
01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 8: Well's if the guy's been riding you all game and

1399
01:00:58,480 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 8: then he does that, you're just like, all right, Dick,

1400
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 8: you're out, you know. I mean you can see both sides,

1401
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 8: you know. It's not just what happens in that in

1402
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 8: that one interaction there. But I do think he was

1403
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 8: a little unlucky to get his second t on that.

1404
01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 3: Sorry, Okay, a couple other mini losers to me for

1405
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 3: Friday nights. Who boy, I had a hell of a decision.

1406
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:21,720
Speaker 3: You already gave us one line Leley Vouch on Friday night.

1407
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 3: This all happened Friday night, and I had to make

1408
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 3: the decision on Saturday morning for woll Boy Vouch in

1409
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 3: a win over the Warriors thirty points on thirteen to

1410
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:30,440
Speaker 3: twenty three, shooting sixteen boards, ten assists of steel on

1411
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 3: a block. Okay, that's a monster game. On many nights

1412
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 3: that would probably be will Boy worthy. But same night,

1413
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 3: Jamal Murray Kitchener's find us in a win over Cleveland

1414
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 3: fifty points twenty one to twenty five, shooting eight three

1415
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:46,280
Speaker 3: pointers made, didn't even attempt a free throw, six boards,

1416
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 3: two assists, two steals. How does that not get woa boy?

1417
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:51,760
Speaker 3: Because someone else had an even better game. That was

1418
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:54,800
Speaker 3: dwell Embiid in a win over Tray's Bowls. Fifty points

1419
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:57,480
Speaker 3: for him as well, fifty burgers for everybody, seventeen to

1420
01:01:57,560 --> 01:02:00,000
Speaker 3: twenty six good, fifteen to seventeen at the line, incredible,

1421
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:03,880
Speaker 3: seventeen rebounds near in big beef territory. There five assists

1422
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 3: and then the defense two steals and four blocks. Wow,

1423
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 3: that is crazy. Not to give will boy to the

1424
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 3: guy that went for fifty points when he missed four

1425
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 3: shots on twenty five attempts. But Embeid had had a

1426
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 3: better line, so that was just difficult. And then the

1427
01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 3: final loser of the weekend to all of us, really

1428
01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:23,040
Speaker 3: our weggie A weekend streak is officially over, yes, which

1429
01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 3: was tough because we nearly had one on Sunday. Right,

1430
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 3: was that a Kawhi one? I can't remember. There was

1431
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:29,880
Speaker 3: one that nearly stuck and then fell out and they

1432
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 3: didn't call it. There was no whistle blown, it wasn't

1433
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 3: a dead ball. So we're stuck on twenty three wggies.

1434
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:36,120
Speaker 3: Still we're on pace for sixty I think still. The

1435
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:39,360
Speaker 3: weggietracker dot com says, but we had an unbelievable run

1436
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:42,200
Speaker 3: it was like four or five week dends straight where

1437
01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 3: we at least had a weggie or two and unfortunately

1438
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 3: came to an entry. But all good things must eventually

1439
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:49,440
Speaker 3: come to an en and we're not done. That's fine,

1440
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 3: Hopefully we'll have more through the week. Right, Yeah, that's

1441
01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:52,600
Speaker 3: exactly right.

1442
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:55,320
Speaker 6: It's nothing better than a Monday when you can put

1443
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:57,640
Speaker 6: no dunks in the winner spot because we had a

1444
01:02:57,680 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 6: weggie or a big bee for the.

1445
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 3: Balls or back.

1446
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 6: None of those happened this weekend, literally none of them.

1447
01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:05,040
Speaker 6: So we gotta take the l we have to.

1448
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 3: Yep.

1449
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:07,040
Speaker 6: Unfortunately, yep, tough for us.

1450
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 7: We didn't have an actual weggie. But we did have

1451
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:13,040
Speaker 7: a great story from Marcus Johnson about a weggie. True,

1452
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:16,840
Speaker 7: that was a good story. When he played uh, he

1453
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:18,320
Speaker 7: said he was on a break, he was he was

1454
01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:20,360
Speaker 7: a young player at the time, and James Worthy was

1455
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 7: chasing him and he got so scared, so worried that

1456
01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:26,240
Speaker 7: he tried to dunk it. But he just dunk weggied it.

1457
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 7: That's amazing. You don't see that ever, I don't think

1458
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:31,760
Speaker 7: I don't think we've ever had video footage of a

1459
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:35,680
Speaker 7: guy alone not blocked, just self weggie.

1460
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:36,280
Speaker 6: Uh.

1461
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:37,919
Speaker 5: That would be a well, hey.

1462
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 3: Hey, who's this. Who's our inside weggie guy, Cody Kats

1463
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 3: Cat's Cody. What's his name? Cody Cats?

1464
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:47,440
Speaker 8: Right, yeah, he's the wedgy wedgie man. Uh yeah, maybe

1465
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:49,760
Speaker 8: I might have another wiggie for us this week too.

1466
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 3: Ask him about Marquise Johnson will let's see if we

1467
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 3: can try that. He was the one, of course, the

1468
01:03:56,920 --> 01:04:00,120
Speaker 3: founder to Michael Jordan Wegg, Yes, young Michael Jordan and

1469
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:01,240
Speaker 3: a wizard's Michael Jordan.

1470
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 8: I'm believing.

1471
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:04,560
Speaker 3: Okay, let's uh, let's get to tweet the night but

1472
01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:06,800
Speaker 3: in a second, because we got to hear from our sponsors.

1473
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:10,919
Speaker 3: Good stuff. What's a NFL guy had a super long

1474
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:16,600
Speaker 3: neck Merton Hanks? Oh yeah, yeah, crazy long net right, yeah, yeah.

1475
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:20,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, awesome sticking out of football pads. I mean he

1476
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:22,680
Speaker 6: celebrated with his neck. There's not a lot of people

1477
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:25,040
Speaker 6: out there celebrating with the neck. I actually just looked

1478
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:28,439
Speaker 6: up a picture of Merton Hanks recently, just to see

1479
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:29,160
Speaker 6: what he looked like.

1480
01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:29,720
Speaker 5: In his suit.

1481
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 6: You know, I've only ever seen him in football pads.

1482
01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:35,280
Speaker 6: But we were talking about do you wear your if

1483
01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 6: you have a very long neck like a dinosaur would

1484
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:40,920
Speaker 6: you wear the would you wear the tie at the

1485
01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:42,880
Speaker 6: top of your neck or at the bottom.

1486
01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:43,280
Speaker 3: Of your right right?

1487
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:46,280
Speaker 6: Even Merton Hanks wears it at the bottom of his neck,

1488
01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:47,000
Speaker 6: is what we found.

1489
01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:47,280
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1490
01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 7: Do dogs wear their pants on their legs or just

1491
01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:53,600
Speaker 7: on all for their legs?

1492
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:54,120
Speaker 5: Real low?

1493
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:56,840
Speaker 7: That's what the Kings were tweeting about during a blowout

1494
01:04:56,920 --> 01:04:58,640
Speaker 7: lost on Sunday net.

1495
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:03,640
Speaker 3: Who's got the longest neck in NBA history? And Bosh

1496
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:06,080
Speaker 3: would be up there, He's got it up there. Yeah,

1497
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:07,160
Speaker 3: anyone else come to mind?

1498
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:09,439
Speaker 5: Sean Bradley probably, yeah, pretty big.

1499
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:13,320
Speaker 3: It's you know, everything else is super long with Sean

1500
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:16,160
Speaker 3: Bradley's sort of blends in. Yeah, yeah, all right, well

1501
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:17,760
Speaker 3: let us know he's got the h he's got the

1502
01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 3: longest neck in the NBA for who's the Merton Hanks

1503
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:23,200
Speaker 3: of the NBA. There we go, Yeah, all right, lets

1504
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:24,080
Speaker 3: get to tweeted.

1505
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:31,760
Speaker 5: The night, tweet out the night. Wow, I'm cheating a

1506
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:32,200
Speaker 5: little bit here.

1507
01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:34,160
Speaker 3: Tweeting the night is actually tweeted the weekend because I

1508
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:36,200
Speaker 3: wanted to slip this into the show somewhere. So here

1509
01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 3: it is Chams tweeting over the weekend the Houston Rockets

1510
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:41,440
Speaker 3: and Center DeMarcus Cousins are planning to part ways in

1511
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:44,480
Speaker 3: coming days. Sources tell the Athletic and Stadium Houston wants

1512
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:47,560
Speaker 3: to go smaller, younger in the front court when Christian

1513
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:52,360
Speaker 3: Wood returns, and this allows Cousins to find an opportunity elsewhere. Now,

1514
01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:55,120
Speaker 3: since this tweet from Shams, I think it was a

1515
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:58,560
Speaker 3: Rockets coach Stephen Silos basically saying, well, Cousins is still here,

1516
01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:01,360
Speaker 3: He's not He's not going anywhere. So hasn't happened yet,

1517
01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:05,280
Speaker 3: you know, technically, Li, But I know Shaans is usually

1518
01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:07,240
Speaker 3: right about this type of stuff. I think he's like

1519
01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:09,840
Speaker 3: got ninety nine percent success, right, So probably at some

1520
01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:12,320
Speaker 3: point the Rockets and Cousins are going two part ways.

1521
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:16,560
Speaker 3: What's the most intriguing landing spot for when that lakely

1522
01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:17,880
Speaker 3: does happen. Was Cousin's moving on?

1523
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:21,600
Speaker 8: Well, there's talk that the Lakers are going to be

1524
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:26,439
Speaker 8: interested in a reunion. Ironically, Boogie never actually played for

1525
01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:28,840
Speaker 8: the Lakers. He was on their roster, but because of

1526
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 8: the injuries, he never actually played. But I think right

1527
01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:34,640
Speaker 8: now you're seeing with the Lakers with Anthony Davis out,

1528
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:38,680
Speaker 8: you know, Marcus OL's still solid there in the middle,

1529
01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:42,320
Speaker 8: but I think they just need another bigger body and bookie.

1530
01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:45,120
Speaker 4: This season hasn't been too bad for the Rockets out there.

1531
01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:46,920
Speaker 8: I mean, you know, for a guy who's had a

1532
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 8: lot of serious injuries, he's a bigger guy, he's a

1533
01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:52,520
Speaker 8: heavier guy. He's actually been playing reasonable. He can shoot

1534
01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:54,240
Speaker 8: the three. Still, he's you know, he's a good passer

1535
01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:56,360
Speaker 8: of the ball, so he still brings something and he's

1536
01:06:56,360 --> 01:07:00,200
Speaker 8: only going to be playing a somewhat limited role. Are

1537
01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:02,600
Speaker 8: the Lakers there, especially when Anthony Davis comes back. Now

1538
01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:05,880
Speaker 8: exactly when Davis comes back, we don't know, but I

1539
01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:09,480
Speaker 8: can see there being some interest there from the Lakers

1540
01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:11,840
Speaker 8: because things did go They started off the season really well,

1541
01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:14,240
Speaker 8: but they've hit a bit of a roadbump since Davis

1542
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:17,040
Speaker 8: has gone down. And you know, Marcus Ohl was a

1543
01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:19,960
Speaker 8: good signing, but there are times again, especially in the bubble,

1544
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:21,320
Speaker 8: for him when he was still with the Raptors, he

1545
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:25,240
Speaker 8: really I thought looked like he'd lost a step and

1546
01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:28,120
Speaker 8: he wasn't as impactful as he had been in his prime,

1547
01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:31,640
Speaker 8: which happens to guy. So I would say there's some

1548
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:33,680
Speaker 8: mutual interest there. It gets Boogie to a team that's

1549
01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:38,720
Speaker 8: contending he's going to play a smaller role and sort

1550
01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:41,120
Speaker 8: of seems like a fairly natural fit. I guess the

1551
01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:43,400
Speaker 8: Nets would also be interested for similar reasons, just to

1552
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:46,200
Speaker 8: get another body there. You know, Boogie can take up

1553
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:49,120
Speaker 8: some space and they could use some more interior defense

1554
01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:51,360
Speaker 8: as well. So I think a couple of the contenders

1555
01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:52,960
Speaker 8: we'll see if they can get hold of him.

1556
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:56,640
Speaker 6: What do you think, Trey, I'm not as convinced that

1557
01:07:56,720 --> 01:07:59,240
Speaker 6: Boogie has a whole bunch left. I think once he

1558
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:02,040
Speaker 6: had to start with Christian Woods absence is kind of

1559
01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:04,320
Speaker 6: once you saw him being a little bit over taxed

1560
01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:06,280
Speaker 6: at this point. But I do think maybe he could

1561
01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:08,800
Speaker 6: help a team just shooting the three as a big

1562
01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:11,480
Speaker 6: man passing the ball, like LEAs saying, but it's got

1563
01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:13,640
Speaker 6: to be in a backup role, or at least a

1564
01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:17,679
Speaker 6: small role where you're not expecting him to really change

1565
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:20,280
Speaker 6: the franchise and really push you over the Eds. Maybe

1566
01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:22,479
Speaker 6: a team like the Sons or the Trailblazers would be

1567
01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:25,400
Speaker 6: interested in the DeMarcus Cousins. You know, the Trailblazers have

1568
01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:28,200
Speaker 6: had a hard time keeping their bigs healthy. Zat Collins

1569
01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:31,160
Speaker 6: has been out for a while Nurkic as well, So

1570
01:08:31,280 --> 01:08:34,320
Speaker 6: maybe Boogie helps there. Similar with the Suns, like are

1571
01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:37,000
Speaker 6: they really going to go into the playoffs starting Frank Kaminsky?

1572
01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:39,439
Speaker 6: I doubt it, So maybe Boogie could be like a

1573
01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:42,040
Speaker 6: little bit of an upgrade over Frank Kaminsky something like that.

1574
01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:44,880
Speaker 6: I don't necessarily know that he's helping a championship team

1575
01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:46,400
Speaker 6: too much. I think he would get played off the

1576
01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:49,120
Speaker 6: court pretty easily. But these teams that are trying to

1577
01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:51,600
Speaker 6: improve their playoff seating maybe take a little bit of

1578
01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:52,040
Speaker 6: a stab.

1579
01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:54,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's tough with Cousins, right, Tass. It's like you

1580
01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:57,639
Speaker 3: want to go back to, you know, the dominant Cousins

1581
01:08:57,640 --> 01:08:59,479
Speaker 3: at time, at least when terms of putting up numbers,

1582
01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:00,960
Speaker 3: like a twenty five, five and ten guy that he

1583
01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:03,000
Speaker 3: was years prior to the injuries. But he is not

1584
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:06,320
Speaker 3: that anymore. He's not that great at protecting the rim.

1585
01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:08,519
Speaker 3: You know, he's not that great even at finishing at

1586
01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:10,719
Speaker 3: the rim because of his athleticism is sort of obviously

1587
01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:15,799
Speaker 3: gone after all these injuries. But you know, Raptors, Blazers, Lakers'

1588
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:17,840
Speaker 3: names being thrown around the Sons is a new one.

1589
01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:19,360
Speaker 3: I hadn't heard the trace sort of making the case

1590
01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:21,439
Speaker 3: for is there any other landing spot that makes sense

1591
01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 3: or could you see him in the right role on

1592
01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:24,920
Speaker 3: a lot of teams like these guys are saying in

1593
01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:26,479
Speaker 3: a limited spot.

1594
01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:29,519
Speaker 7: Yeah, it has to be a limited role. The worse

1595
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:33,280
Speaker 7: the team, the more he's going to get too much responsibility,

1596
01:09:33,280 --> 01:09:35,599
Speaker 7: and that's going to be an issue. I could see

1597
01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:39,759
Speaker 7: the Lakers working. They got rid of Dwight Howard before

1598
01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:42,479
Speaker 7: this season, and they didn't really replace Dwight Howard as

1599
01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:45,360
Speaker 7: the backup big as a backup real center. I mean,

1600
01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:48,360
Speaker 7: they replaced him with Montrez Harrow, but he's sort of undersized.

1601
01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:52,280
Speaker 7: So if DeMarcus Cousins is fit into that perfect niche role,

1602
01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:55,040
Speaker 7: I think that could work, especially on a team that's

1603
01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:57,880
Speaker 7: super good on defense, to cover up a lot of

1604
01:09:57,880 --> 01:10:00,320
Speaker 7: his mistakes if he's out there, and that would help.

1605
01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:02,599
Speaker 7: I don't think the Brooklyn Nets is a good situation

1606
01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:04,759
Speaker 7: because they're not good on defense. You're gonna get exposed

1607
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:06,680
Speaker 7: like crazy. We talked about how the Nets like to

1608
01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:09,479
Speaker 7: switch everything. Well, you want Marcus Cousins on an island

1609
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:12,600
Speaker 7: not good. You don't want to be a good a

1610
01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:16,320
Speaker 7: bad defensive team. Adding to Marcus Cousins if you're a

1611
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:18,400
Speaker 7: good team, and yeah, yeah, you can maybe make it work.

1612
01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:22,080
Speaker 7: Although a comment here on the stream team from Jerry

1613
01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:25,759
Speaker 7: k Dick eight Cousins to the Nets reunion with Harden

1614
01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:28,639
Speaker 7: made me chuckle because they had their follow up earlier

1615
01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:31,280
Speaker 7: this season. That would be funny. But I don't think

1616
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:33,559
Speaker 7: the Nets take a chance on cuz they got too

1617
01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:35,920
Speaker 7: much offense. And although we keep talking about a big

1618
01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:37,679
Speaker 7: to the Nets, big to the Nets, big to the Nets,

1619
01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:40,519
Speaker 7: they need a defensive big. But you know, he wanted

1620
01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:43,000
Speaker 7: he sorry, I was gonna say he won a title

1621
01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:46,720
Speaker 7: last year. He want a title, you know, probably in

1622
01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:49,040
Speaker 7: spirit and in mind with the Lakers. I don't know

1623
01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:51,559
Speaker 7: if they gave him a ring, but if he goes

1624
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:53,639
Speaker 7: back there, then then he can get a real ring

1625
01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:57,240
Speaker 7: because he was there last season. And I don't know,

1626
01:10:57,280 --> 01:10:58,639
Speaker 7: do you guys see report did they give.

1627
01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:01,200
Speaker 3: Him I don't think them ring, But I also don't know.

1628
01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:04,800
Speaker 3: The Raptors haven't give Danny Green a ring yet because

1629
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:06,280
Speaker 3: he wanted to wait until there's fans.

1630
01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:07,280
Speaker 5: Oh, fair enough.

1631
01:11:07,479 --> 01:11:09,120
Speaker 3: It could be a while though Danny Green. But yeah,

1632
01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:11,720
Speaker 3: he still doesn't have his Raptors ring. Weird, What are

1633
01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:12,639
Speaker 3: you gonna say lately.

1634
01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:16,000
Speaker 8: They usually give the rings at someone who was on

1635
01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:18,200
Speaker 8: the rostar and Boogie was on their rost today.

1636
01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:21,760
Speaker 4: So but it says they are going to yeah.

1637
01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:25,040
Speaker 3: Wow, okay, okay, all right, congrats with him the champion

1638
01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:28,680
Speaker 3: book Cousins. Yeah, there's a let us know what you

1639
01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:30,800
Speaker 3: think though, does does Cousins still have anything left? Like

1640
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:32,880
Speaker 3: in his starts? You're right, Lee, Like with Houston, he

1641
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:35,320
Speaker 3: started brutal, I thought this year, but yeah, he picked

1642
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:37,320
Speaker 3: it up. He's been a bit a bit more average

1643
01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:40,000
Speaker 3: for sure. Do you think he still has something to

1644
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:41,840
Speaker 3: give to a team And what could that team be?

1645
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:43,639
Speaker 3: In your mind? Let us know in the stream, team,

1646
01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:45,240
Speaker 3: let us know in the comments all that. You know,

1647
01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:48,000
Speaker 3: I know some people making a case for the Knicks. Uh,

1648
01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:50,960
Speaker 3: you know, maybe the Warriors for sure getting another big there.

1649
01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:53,760
Speaker 3: Let us know, throw it at us, all right, pick them.

1650
01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:56,960
Speaker 3: Results on Friday night quickly here Sons Pelicans game. Sons

1651
01:11:56,960 --> 01:11:59,160
Speaker 3: were favored by two and a half. They've been playing well.

1652
01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:02,400
Speaker 3: They got another victory coming back huge there in the

1653
01:12:02,439 --> 01:12:04,240
Speaker 3: fourth quarter. That's a victory for Trey and that's a

1654
01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:06,920
Speaker 3: victory for me. So this is how it breaks down.

1655
01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:08,920
Speaker 3: Task and Lee had the Pelicans. So that's a loss.

1656
01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:11,439
Speaker 3: It's sort of funny. I'm at the top nine and six,

1657
01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:13,720
Speaker 3: followed by Lee eight and seven, folded by Task seven

1658
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:16,360
Speaker 3: and eight, and followed by Trey six and nine. Very nice.

1659
01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:19,920
Speaker 3: So what's tonight's game? It's pretty close here still with

1660
01:12:20,479 --> 01:12:22,520
Speaker 3: I guess, but a week to go right in February.

1661
01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:25,080
Speaker 3: So these are these are important games here for you guys,

1662
01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:27,200
Speaker 3: especially downsorted near the bottom. What do we got Task?

1663
01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:30,280
Speaker 7: It's making me chuckle right now. I know le Al

1664
01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:33,640
Speaker 7: is just highlighted today's document. He's ready to copy and

1665
01:12:33,680 --> 01:12:35,000
Speaker 7: paste it into tomorrow's dock.

1666
01:12:35,080 --> 01:12:36,360
Speaker 3: And I see him wait for this show.

1667
01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:38,920
Speaker 5: I see him typing stuff. He's ready to go.

1668
01:12:39,080 --> 01:12:41,000
Speaker 7: He's he's already making tomorrow's dock.

1669
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:43,080
Speaker 3: Hap Hey put the adlines in then if you're gonna

1670
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:43,320
Speaker 3: do it.

1671
01:12:44,360 --> 01:12:46,800
Speaker 8: Well, yeah, I didn't get today's at rates because I

1672
01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:48,519
Speaker 8: put him in otherwise, man, come on.

1673
01:12:48,400 --> 01:12:52,599
Speaker 7: Okay, yeah, usually gotta peel back the curtain. The Bulls

1674
01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:57,640
Speaker 7: going into Houston and then Rockets are an underdog with

1675
01:12:58,240 --> 01:12:59,920
Speaker 7: just a one and a half point underdog, So the

1676
01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:02,160
Speaker 7: Bulls got to win by two. What do you think,

1677
01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:04,320
Speaker 7: Trey or the Bull's gonna win in Houston by two.

1678
01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:09,160
Speaker 6: Third game in four nights for Chicago. Houston on a

1679
01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:13,040
Speaker 6: seven game losing streak. The Bulls are back. Obviously they're

1680
01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:15,240
Speaker 6: gonna win. Come on, I'm not picking against them here

1681
01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:18,160
Speaker 6: against the team that's really struggling. Maybe it buries me

1682
01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:20,200
Speaker 6: in the basement, but I'll take it. The Bulls are back.

1683
01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:21,240
Speaker 6: They're getting the win tonight.

1684
01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:23,479
Speaker 5: Interested Skeates, what do you think?

1685
01:13:23,560 --> 01:13:26,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going Bulls too. I mean, because now you

1686
01:13:26,360 --> 01:13:29,600
Speaker 3: got me all discombobulated tasks. I don't know. Do the

1687
01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:31,880
Speaker 3: coaches still have one more night to get their picks

1688
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:34,599
Speaker 3: in for these But that's the case, and put Zach

1689
01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:37,840
Speaker 3: lavinawn for another forty here tonight and you know, really

1690
01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:39,880
Speaker 3: stamping homes chances of making the game. But I'll take

1691
01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:41,400
Speaker 3: the Bulls. Yeah, I'm not. I'm not gonna pick a

1692
01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:44,320
Speaker 3: team right now. Unfortunately it's lost seven in a row. No, look,

1693
01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:46,400
Speaker 3: I mean this is difficult because the schedule, like trace

1694
01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:48,799
Speaker 3: Ever Chicago, it probably is going to be a close one.

1695
01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:51,840
Speaker 3: Bulls by two, though, I'll go with Trey Lee.

1696
01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:52,400
Speaker 5: What do you think?

1697
01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:55,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's hard to pick the rocket truck man. I

1698
01:13:55,240 --> 01:13:59,519
Speaker 8: just think, Ah, bulls by a couple show off.

1699
01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:02,040
Speaker 3: Oh there you go, task you gonna swerve? What do

1700
01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:02,400
Speaker 3: youna do?

1701
01:14:04,360 --> 01:14:09,200
Speaker 7: Sorry, Trey, you're not making up a game to Maybe

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Speaker 7: maybe from now on I'm gonna take the bulls from

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Speaker 7: now on the rest of the week.

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Speaker 5: I gotta pick before you.

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01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:20,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, Otherwise I could just just always take what we

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01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:23,000
Speaker 7: got to go back to the old days, like the starters.

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01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:25,400
Speaker 7: We had to send them in. Got to send them in,

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01:14:25,479 --> 01:14:28,000
Speaker 7: so you can't take an opposite a guy who's behind you.

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01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:29,559
Speaker 5: So maybe we'll do.

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Speaker 7: At least Yeah, the guy who's in last should pick

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Speaker 7: last this week.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I like that. I like that all right? For tonight,

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Speaker 3: everybody taking the bulls. My goodness in Houston. Bulls are back,

1714
01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:42,320
Speaker 3: though I heard, so good luck to everybody. I think

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Speaker 6: Love you guys awesome.

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Speaker 5: Thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 7: And remember I just thought of our old days with

1751
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Speaker 7: the Starters when I was talking about emailing in our picks.

1752
01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:15,599
Speaker 7: Just wanted to give a shout out to our old

1753
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Speaker 7: friend Garrett Simms. We used to email in our picks

1754
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Speaker 7: to him. You would get him wrong, everyone, but hey,

1755
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Speaker 7: I miss you, Garrett.

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Speaker 3: Miss absolutely brace the day people.

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Speaker 4: You could stay.

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Speaker 6: Every day.

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Speaker 7: And Dade happy every minute.

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Speaker 5: It's been so long that your Lona way it's having already.

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Speaker 7: It's gonna be greovy.