WEBVTT - 101: Where The Calls Are 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:06.160 Welcome to Nightcall, a production of My Heart Radio. It's 0:00:06.280 --> 0:00:11.319 nine pm in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, and you're listening to 0:00:11.520 --> 0:00:26.400 Night Call. Hello, and welcome back to Night Call, a 0:00:26.520 --> 0:00:30.840 call in show about our dystopian reality. I'm Emily Ashida. 0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:33.520 I am here as always in Los Angeles, and with 0:00:33.560 --> 0:00:38.680 me are Tess Lynch and Molly Lambert. We are now 0:00:38.840 --> 0:00:41.920 deep into spring Break March. This is our theme of 0:00:41.920 --> 0:00:45.239 the month, and today we're gonna be talking about the 0:00:45.320 --> 0:00:51.000 definitive slash originating spring Break film where the boys are. 0:00:51.600 --> 0:00:53.960 And we're also going to be taking all your street 0:00:53.960 --> 0:00:56.400 great calls and emails you've given us over the past 0:00:56.400 --> 0:00:59.200 couple of weeks and we are still taking those. So 0:00:59.280 --> 0:01:01.720 if you have us ring break story to share, give 0:01:01.800 --> 0:01:04.800 us a call at one to four oh for six night, 0:01:05.560 --> 0:01:07.440 or if your phone shy, you can give us an 0:01:07.440 --> 0:01:10.720 email at Night Call podcast at gmail dot com. We're 0:01:10.720 --> 0:01:13.479 going to start off with an email from a listener. 0:01:13.920 --> 0:01:16.920 This email comes from listener Bowie and says, hey, night Call, 0:01:17.240 --> 0:01:19.680 long time, first time, and it's for the spring break theme. 0:01:20.080 --> 0:01:22.520 I never did a traditional spring break in college, but 0:01:22.560 --> 0:01:25.280 I did do an alternative spring break hosted by my 0:01:25.360 --> 0:01:28.360 university senior year, we went as a group to San 0:01:28.400 --> 0:01:33.040 Francisco from Texas to visit and volunteer with several activist organizations. 0:01:33.440 --> 0:01:35.319 I found it to be very educational for me, but 0:01:35.400 --> 0:01:37.640 ultimately I didn't feel like we helped anybody, and it 0:01:37.720 --> 0:01:40.080 was just an expensive and strange venture for us in 0:01:40.120 --> 0:01:43.280 the organizations. I know some mothers of these are based 0:01:43.280 --> 0:01:46.560 around habitat for humanity, so maybe those are more materially useful. 0:01:46.880 --> 0:01:48.680 I can't help but feel it might have been better 0:01:48.720 --> 0:01:51.560 to stay in our town and volunteer there. Did any 0:01:51.600 --> 0:01:53.800 of y'all do these in college? What do you think 0:01:53.840 --> 0:01:59.920 about volunteerism? Thanks for the podcast, Bowie. That's a good question. 0:02:00.400 --> 0:02:03.400 Voluntourism and tourism. I don't know. I mean I did. 0:02:03.440 --> 0:02:06.200 I did AmeriCorps, which is the closest thing to that 0:02:06.200 --> 0:02:08.400 that I've done. But that's a whole year. And did 0:02:08.400 --> 0:02:11.320 you feel like you were helping people? Yes, for that, 0:02:11.400 --> 0:02:13.760 but because it's a long term thing and you basically 0:02:13.760 --> 0:02:17.000 have a job for years, opposed to like dropping in air, 0:02:17.080 --> 0:02:19.400 dropping in for a week to someplace you have no 0:02:19.480 --> 0:02:22.760 connection to or you don't know the people there. Um, 0:02:22.960 --> 0:02:25.600 I can see how that would be that would maybe 0:02:25.639 --> 0:02:30.520 have a high possibility of bungling, I guess, But it's 0:02:30.520 --> 0:02:33.360 a nice it's a nice and intention at least to 0:02:33.480 --> 0:02:37.480 use your spring break for something like that. Yeah, positive 0:02:37.520 --> 0:02:40.919 spring break is a good idea. Yeah, it was making 0:02:40.919 --> 0:02:44.560 me think about like missionary trips kind of and whether 0:02:44.560 --> 0:02:48.520 there could be like a good version of that. Yeah. Yeah, 0:02:48.560 --> 0:02:50.280 I mean I think I think one thing and we 0:02:50.280 --> 0:02:51.799 can talk about this more when we get into where 0:02:51.800 --> 0:02:53.840 the boys are, because it was such a like I 0:02:53.840 --> 0:02:55.959 guess there's some of this and you see a little 0:02:55.960 --> 0:02:58.200 of this in the margins of spring breakers too, but 0:02:58.280 --> 0:03:01.960 like the idea like you're going as a representative from 0:03:01.960 --> 0:03:06.040 your college, right, Like, if you're going as a representative 0:03:06.080 --> 0:03:09.040 from your college and you're like a privilege enough person 0:03:09.080 --> 0:03:11.480 to be at college, Like, wouldn't you want to use 0:03:11.520 --> 0:03:15.720 that to do something non destructive? Um, that feels like 0:03:16.160 --> 0:03:20.600 a more reasonable impulse to have, But uh, I don't 0:03:20.600 --> 0:03:24.480 know a reason rarely rules danism. Baby. Yeah, I took 0:03:24.480 --> 0:03:26.600 a trip when I was a kid, and it was 0:03:26.680 --> 0:03:30.600 over winter break to El Salvador with UNI stuff. Um, 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:33.720 and that was I think, you know, I didn't do 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:36.640 that much. That was constructive because I was like twelve, 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:39.320 but I you know, we handed out school supplies and stuff. 0:03:39.320 --> 0:03:43.080 But it was obviously I took away more from it 0:03:43.120 --> 0:03:46.440 than I gave to it. Um, But it is interesting. 0:03:46.480 --> 0:03:49.520 I worked with Rye Perk, which is a public interest 0:03:49.560 --> 0:03:52.880 research campaign kind of like Sierra Club UM in college 0:03:52.880 --> 0:03:55.040 over the summer, and that was I mean, it was 0:03:55.120 --> 0:03:59.040 good to get a sense of policies that I didn't 0:03:59.080 --> 0:04:02.200 know about and do outreach. But it's like, it's such 0:04:02.240 --> 0:04:07.600 a hard age to represent a cause. Well, especially back then, 0:04:07.720 --> 0:04:10.600 I think it was, UM, But it's it's interesting to 0:04:10.600 --> 0:04:13.400 think about the ways that you could spend spring break 0:04:13.440 --> 0:04:18.320 doing good volunt tourism. Yeah, what about your mine? Well, 0:04:18.360 --> 0:04:20.359 I like this probably person also was like maybe we 0:04:20.400 --> 0:04:22.560 just should have stayed home and like gotten more involved 0:04:22.560 --> 0:04:26.159 in local politics to UM, because I think that's also 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:28.880 a good impulse. Is like the impulse to go help 0:04:29.000 --> 0:04:32.799 somewhere else can often be sublimated until like, well, what's 0:04:32.960 --> 0:04:36.800 even going right around me? Um. I worked at a 0:04:36.839 --> 0:04:42.120 food bank in high school. We had to do some volunteering, UM, 0:04:42.240 --> 0:04:44.839 and I you could choose where you did it, So 0:04:44.880 --> 0:04:46.960 I went to like a food bank and van Nuys 0:04:47.120 --> 0:04:51.200 that was run by nuns, um and I loved it 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:55.600 because I loved the nuns. They were like chill nuns, 0:04:56.279 --> 0:04:59.760 which we'll get more into later. Um. But yeah, it 0:04:59.800 --> 0:05:03.040 was a just like it felt sort of like I 0:05:03.080 --> 0:05:05.880 wasn't thinking about it on like a policy point at 0:05:05.920 --> 0:05:09.240 that time in my life. I wasn't like we shouldn't 0:05:09.240 --> 0:05:12.239 need this because like people should be able to afford 0:05:12.279 --> 0:05:15.359 to eat food because everything is bad, and like the 0:05:15.480 --> 0:05:17.800 government should take care of this. But I was like, 0:05:18.279 --> 0:05:20.920 people who need food should get food, and it, you know, 0:05:21.240 --> 0:05:23.680 makes you feel like you're doing something to like hand 0:05:23.680 --> 0:05:28.680 it out to them. Yeah, speaking of alternatives to spring break, 0:05:28.920 --> 0:05:32.359 we are not in college, but I took a break 0:05:32.680 --> 0:05:36.680 from social media for two days. Yeah, I'm about to 0:05:36.680 --> 0:05:39.080 take another one. Well. No, it wasn't intended to be 0:05:39.120 --> 0:05:41.520 along spring break, because we all have to. I mean 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:45.680 there's a certain element of like needing to stay engaged 0:05:45.720 --> 0:05:49.159 with social media for work. Um, so I knew that 0:05:49.200 --> 0:05:50.919 I would have to check in at some point, but 0:05:51.000 --> 0:05:54.560 I set limits on my phone and deleted some apps 0:05:54.560 --> 0:05:58.120 and stuff. Um. But well, it was amazing, and I 0:05:58.160 --> 0:05:59.880 mean it's it's going to be something where I know 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:03.800 that I can't just disconnect entirely from it. I mean, 0:06:03.839 --> 0:06:06.440 I wish I could, but I feel like doing so. 0:06:06.600 --> 0:06:09.320 I mean, especially with coronavirus and everything, which we'll also 0:06:09.360 --> 0:06:12.240 talk more about in a minute, but there, you know, 0:06:12.279 --> 0:06:15.720 it's when you're watching the news as I was um 0:06:15.839 --> 0:06:19.839 or just refreshing a website, you're not getting things as immediately, 0:06:19.880 --> 0:06:23.039 which which is good, but it also kind of places 0:06:23.040 --> 0:06:25.760 you apart from how everyone else is receiving news, which 0:06:25.760 --> 0:06:28.960 feels kind of isolating and probably something you have to 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:31.479 kind of find a balance and moderate it. It was 0:06:31.560 --> 0:06:34.279 so hard, you guys, to stay completely off social media 0:06:34.320 --> 0:06:39.240 for two days. Two days hard because I wasn't like 0:06:39.320 --> 0:06:41.400 on a trip, you know, or anything where I could 0:06:41.400 --> 0:06:43.440 be like I'm making this decision and putting myself in 0:06:43.480 --> 0:06:46.239 a different place. It was I was doing the same 0:06:46.279 --> 0:06:49.480 things that I do at night, which is like scrolling, 0:06:49.600 --> 0:06:52.000 just trying to scroll, but then you reach the bottom 0:06:52.040 --> 0:06:54.240 and there's nowhere else. They should take an app that's 0:06:54.279 --> 0:06:57.120 just a dumb social media feed that will just give 0:06:57.160 --> 0:06:59.599 you the satisfaction of scrolling and looking at things, but 0:06:59.640 --> 0:07:02.120 it's not like cooked up to anybody about when you 0:07:02.240 --> 0:07:04.880 reach like the endpoint, of that, and you're like, what 0:07:04.920 --> 0:07:07.280 did I used to do? Oh? Well, that's I mean, 0:07:07.320 --> 0:07:09.480 that's what's amazing. And I was like, could I find 0:07:09.640 --> 0:07:12.920 the same feeling anywhere else? The same feeling? But the 0:07:12.960 --> 0:07:16.320 feeling is a bad feeling. Well, that feeling it's a 0:07:16.360 --> 0:07:19.400 pretty hate machine, it is. Yeah, I feel like I 0:07:19.480 --> 0:07:22.120 need to do some kind of workshop to get people 0:07:22.240 --> 0:07:25.400 to like reduce her all together, eliminate social media use, 0:07:25.520 --> 0:07:28.040 because I just like I am at the point now 0:07:28.080 --> 0:07:32.000 where it's just like it feels like a chort has 0:07:32.040 --> 0:07:35.480 suggested that a straight edge movement should emerge for social 0:07:35.520 --> 0:07:38.560 media because he's been like our straight edged people, like, 0:07:38.560 --> 0:07:41.080 are they against social media? Because they should be. It's 0:07:41.120 --> 0:07:43.520 like an addictive substance. It's bad for you. Well, I 0:07:43.560 --> 0:07:45.880 think that there's like even a more embarrassing way to 0:07:45.920 --> 0:07:48.240 look at this, which is just like I think that 0:07:48.520 --> 0:07:52.400 an affliction of like the baby boomer era, which our 0:07:52.480 --> 0:07:55.640 generation and younger like love to clown on, is just 0:07:55.680 --> 0:07:58.120 their addiction to television. And it's because they were brought 0:07:58.200 --> 0:08:00.680 up in the era of television and television was the 0:08:00.720 --> 0:08:03.600 new shiny thing, much like social media is for us now, 0:08:04.160 --> 0:08:06.720 and like that's why you have now boomers who are 0:08:06.760 --> 0:08:09.880 completely informed by an endless feed of cable news coming 0:08:09.960 --> 0:08:12.640 into their heads. But we have the same thing. We 0:08:12.680 --> 0:08:14.600 just don't really like. We don't think to mock it, 0:08:14.640 --> 0:08:16.280 but it is just I think it is just as 0:08:16.320 --> 0:08:19.200 bad and destructive and warping of one sense of really 0:08:19.360 --> 0:08:22.320 make a bumper sticker that says kill your computer, like 0:08:22.360 --> 0:08:26.320 the kill Your's ironic to hear you guys saying that 0:08:26.360 --> 0:08:28.640 because I think both of you are. I think of 0:08:28.680 --> 0:08:31.160 you as being very online, even though I would admit 0:08:31.200 --> 0:08:33.920 that I'm more online than both of you. I just less. 0:08:34.000 --> 0:08:36.960 I do not know what's going on at all anymore. 0:08:37.080 --> 0:08:40.280 It's crazy, and you know what, It's fine because most 0:08:40.320 --> 0:08:42.520 of the time there's nothing I could do about it anyway. 0:08:42.559 --> 0:08:44.520 I'm only online if I don't have something to do. 0:08:44.640 --> 0:08:47.280 Whenever I have something to do and I'm like offline 0:08:47.320 --> 0:08:50.000 because I was like doing work or like going on 0:08:50.040 --> 0:08:52.280 a hike or something, I'm always like, why am I 0:08:52.360 --> 0:08:55.720 so happy? Oh? Because I'm not on Twitter. I think 0:08:55.840 --> 0:08:58.480 making up a fake job for yourself if you don't 0:08:58.640 --> 0:09:01.160 have like a bunch of busy work that you have 0:09:01.200 --> 0:09:03.280 to do, is also like like a hike, like a 0:09:03.360 --> 0:09:05.080 hike is a job that you have to do for 0:09:05.120 --> 0:09:09.400 a while. Like all that can easily drive just anything 0:09:09.440 --> 0:09:11.960 where you can't be looking at the screen. It's the 0:09:12.000 --> 0:09:14.520 only great thing about driving right now for me is 0:09:14.520 --> 0:09:16.679 that I don't I don't check the feeds on while 0:09:16.679 --> 0:09:19.920 I'm driving. Yeah, driving can be relaxing because it's not 0:09:20.000 --> 0:09:22.800 looking at a computer. Going on a plane and not 0:09:22.880 --> 0:09:26.000 buying the WiFi, so relaxed. I was at a coffee 0:09:26.000 --> 0:09:29.800 shop yesterday where the WiFi was out and it was amazing. 0:09:30.320 --> 0:09:31.880 I was like, well, I guess I just have to 0:09:31.960 --> 0:09:34.520 do my work, and then I just like did my work. 0:09:34.679 --> 0:09:37.959 I purposely I have to write. I will purposefully go 0:09:38.120 --> 0:09:41.199 to coffee shops that don't have WiFi because I will 0:09:41.240 --> 0:09:43.240 get so much more done. And if I need to 0:09:43.320 --> 0:09:44.679 check the feed I have to look at my phone. 0:09:44.679 --> 0:09:46.160 But then I feel like an idiot in my screen 0:09:46.160 --> 0:09:48.000 will go black and it's like I'm not working. Is 0:09:48.000 --> 0:09:50.600 it Jonathan Franzen that has like the cable plugged in 0:09:50.640 --> 0:09:55.360 and then snipped off. It's one of the Jonathan's. I 0:09:55.480 --> 0:09:57.960 was like, I'm so purious, like this is like won't 0:09:57.960 --> 0:10:00.880 even give myself the possibility of having the Internet on 0:10:00.960 --> 0:10:02.760 my computer and I mocked it at the time, but 0:10:02.800 --> 0:10:07.200 you know what, maybe maybe that was a correct Well, 0:10:07.240 --> 0:10:09.280 we are going to take a quick break. When we 0:10:09.320 --> 0:10:12.520 come back, We're gonna do a quick coronifier or something 0:10:12.760 --> 0:10:27.440 and more. Welcome back to Nightcall, guys. I asked this 0:10:27.520 --> 0:10:29.440 question the hallway ors. You're coming up here, But what 0:10:29.520 --> 0:10:33.760 happens if they kissed put Shella because of coronafis a 0:10:33.760 --> 0:10:37.560 lot of unprecedented things are happening, which is something you 0:10:37.600 --> 0:10:42.000 could just say all the time. Now many unused things 0:10:42.120 --> 0:10:47.280 are happening. But yeah, they just canceled Ultra fest, which 0:10:47.520 --> 0:10:53.679 is the big electronic music conference and festival. Is it indoors? 0:10:53.920 --> 0:10:57.760 It's outdoorsai I was going to hypothesize that Coachella could 0:10:57.760 --> 0:11:01.640 go on as scheduled, but the indoor music festivals should 0:11:01.679 --> 0:11:05.560 be concerts. There are some theories that like extreme heat 0:11:05.640 --> 0:11:09.160 kills it, but again none of Yeah, I mean extreme 0:11:09.200 --> 0:11:13.800 heat also kills people. That's why they moved to Coachella 0:11:13.880 --> 0:11:17.480 to April. Yeah, uh yeah, I mean a lot of 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:19.560 big events are getting canceled. People are pulling out of 0:11:19.600 --> 0:11:23.920 south By Southwest. It is very interesting to see what 0:11:23.960 --> 0:11:26.720 people are doing. Just like our whole economy is so 0:11:26.800 --> 0:11:30.840 oriented around crowds. Yeah, I am getting I'm still on 0:11:30.880 --> 0:11:33.080 all these lists from south By from when I would 0:11:33.080 --> 0:11:36.160 go for work and getting these emails from different pr 0:11:36.200 --> 0:11:38.360 people like we're still going, oh I just got one 0:11:38.400 --> 0:11:41.600 like that. Yeah, they're like, we'll still be there. It's 0:11:41.760 --> 0:11:44.400 very Yeah, it's interesting because it's like people have a 0:11:44.400 --> 0:11:46.400 lot of money sunk into these things, so like they 0:11:46.400 --> 0:11:49.600 don't want to pull out obviously, Um, that's what's going 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:52.480 on with the Olympics now still too is like Japan 0:11:52.559 --> 0:11:55.199 wants to pull out and the IOC is like nope, 0:11:55.280 --> 0:11:58.600 it's happening. So that's been interesting to watch because yeah, 0:11:58.600 --> 0:12:00.560 there's like so much money on the line. Then it's like, well, 0:12:00.600 --> 0:12:05.920 there's also lives on the line, and it's not worth it. 0:12:06.040 --> 0:12:09.359 And maybe as a society we're having to re evaluate 0:12:09.480 --> 0:12:13.120 how we think about people and profit generally. And this 0:12:13.200 --> 0:12:15.720 is like a very on the nose, like hey, what 0:12:15.800 --> 0:12:21.040 if there was a health epidemic suddenly that affected everybody 0:12:21.040 --> 0:12:23.720 and nobody could escape from. On the other hand, I 0:12:23.760 --> 0:12:26.480 do feel like especially in the United States, and of 0:12:26.520 --> 0:12:28.560 course it depends on what part of the United States 0:12:28.559 --> 0:12:32.640 you're in, but like I don't know, like like Sundance 0:12:32.720 --> 0:12:37.040 happened kind of right before full on coronavirus panic was happening, 0:12:37.240 --> 0:12:41.600 and everybody I know got violently ill after going to say, well, 0:12:41.600 --> 0:12:44.320 don't people always get sick at film festivals and and 0:12:44.480 --> 0:12:48.040 sometimes and sometimes not. This is also a terrible flu season. Yeah, 0:12:48.240 --> 0:12:51.160 it's also a double barreled flu season, is what I read, 0:12:51.600 --> 0:12:54.880 which means there's two types of other flu going around. 0:12:54.920 --> 0:12:58.760 There's there's influenza and influenza B. And the vaccine I 0:12:58.800 --> 0:13:02.079 want to say was not very effective against influenza B. 0:13:02.600 --> 0:13:04.760 I may be wrong. That's also why people who are 0:13:04.800 --> 0:13:07.720 getting sick immediately or like I'm patient zero of the 0:13:07.720 --> 0:13:12.160 coronavirus and then they are not all. My dad got 0:13:12.200 --> 0:13:16.320 sick a while ago, like a week ago, and he 0:13:16.760 --> 0:13:18.920 was taken to the hospital and they tested him for 0:13:18.960 --> 0:13:22.600 coronavirus because he had been traveling, and he was he 0:13:22.720 --> 0:13:24.600 was negative. And then he went for a follow up 0:13:24.640 --> 0:13:27.160 appointment when he got home and he coughed in the 0:13:27.160 --> 0:13:29.400 waiting room and everyone like drew back from him and 0:13:29.440 --> 0:13:33.000 he was like, no, I'm negative. One of you who 0:13:33.080 --> 0:13:36.360 can say, also, how much did that test cost? Well, 0:13:36.400 --> 0:13:37.960 he didn't have a choice about it, and he has 0:13:38.000 --> 0:13:40.680 really good insurance, which is wonderful. But we will see. 0:13:40.720 --> 0:13:42.839 I believe it's three thousand all. This is where I 0:13:42.920 --> 0:13:45.000 learned that, and then I saw that also other places 0:13:45.040 --> 0:13:47.439 people being like, well that's the price. But then like 0:13:47.880 --> 0:13:50.760 every other country is just like administering it for free 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:55.080 because it's like worth it. Yeah, yeah, no, it's it's 0:13:55.120 --> 0:13:57.280 it's kind of infuriating to see how, well, what do 0:13:57.320 --> 0:14:00.160 you think people should do if we can't like go 0:14:00.280 --> 0:14:04.679 have a traditional spring break in a group of people, Like, 0:14:04.760 --> 0:14:07.920 what's like, what's like a good indoor kids springs? Go camping? 0:14:08.720 --> 0:14:12.560 I think camping because then you're you're basically isolated in nature. 0:14:12.679 --> 0:14:15.480 There's no crowds, you can drive there, you don't have 0:14:15.520 --> 0:14:18.600 to fly, you're basically packing your own stuff, you don't 0:14:18.600 --> 0:14:21.400 have to go into any stores. I hate camping, but 0:14:23.600 --> 0:14:25.720 other people, well, I also like when we were talking 0:14:25.840 --> 0:14:32.560 last week about the live stream raves and wuhan, yeah, 0:14:32.600 --> 0:14:36.520 I feel like doing some combination of that plus going 0:14:36.600 --> 0:14:39.680 someplace you can drive to from your from your home 0:14:40.240 --> 0:14:43.400 so you don't have to fly, and renting a cabin 0:14:43.600 --> 0:14:47.200 far away from civilization, bringing lots of water basically like 0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:52.400 doing a mini prepper vacation. What about a quarantine crowd 0:14:52.600 --> 0:14:56.080 where it's like taking something like the Circle or love 0:14:56.160 --> 0:14:58.400 is blind but like for good, which I think is 0:14:58.440 --> 0:15:00.960 kind of what you were saying about the live streams. 0:15:01.040 --> 0:15:03.760 The quarantine live streams is like, what if it's just 0:15:03.800 --> 0:15:07.400 like everybody throws a mini rave in their own house 0:15:07.960 --> 0:15:10.400 where you just like, then they're then they're more tethered 0:15:10.440 --> 0:15:13.240 to social media. Again, that's something I feel like, what 0:15:13.360 --> 0:15:15.440 if the virus what if we don't know it, but 0:15:15.520 --> 0:15:19.280 what if the virus is spreading through social media? Guys, 0:15:20.040 --> 0:15:23.280 what if the virtual crowds it's bleeding out of your 0:15:23.280 --> 0:15:29.000 computer and everybody just got back into second life. I'm 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:31.840 down for that. I mean again with the like trying 0:15:31.840 --> 0:15:33.720 to think about what it's like to describe this to 0:15:33.800 --> 0:15:37.080 your past self. But it's like going everybody wants to 0:15:37.120 --> 0:15:41.000 go viral on social media, but also they're mad at 0:15:41.000 --> 0:15:44.240 this thing that replicates itself viral e R. Well. I 0:15:44.240 --> 0:15:48.200 I also just I feel like the the impulse to 0:15:48.240 --> 0:15:50.960 go for full doomsday on this is like it feels 0:15:51.040 --> 0:15:53.760 very conservative to me. So I'm always super worried about 0:15:53.760 --> 0:15:55.160 like we can't do this and this and this and 0:15:55.200 --> 0:15:57.520 make people but buying up face masks and stuff. And 0:15:57.560 --> 0:15:59.480 I think it's mostly because of an aesthetic. It's fun 0:15:59.520 --> 0:16:01.560 to cause play the end of the world like, that's 0:16:01.600 --> 0:16:04.040 why preppers are into prepp pain. It's like fun to 0:16:04.120 --> 0:16:06.160 do like this, make believe. I don't think they think 0:16:06.160 --> 0:16:08.000 it's fun. No, I don't think that it's I don't 0:16:08.000 --> 0:16:11.760 think they're trying to play. I think preppers really think 0:16:11.800 --> 0:16:14.520 the end of the world is coming. But there's something 0:16:14.560 --> 0:16:17.840 about the idea of that happening that is the future 0:16:17.880 --> 0:16:20.680 they want to believe in the cozy catastrophe. Sure, I'll 0:16:20.680 --> 0:16:23.880 be the last person like or like like people who 0:16:24.040 --> 0:16:26.080 watch you know, Mad Max, and they're like, I want 0:16:26.080 --> 0:16:30.120 to live in that world that's afraid is to see 0:16:30.120 --> 0:16:35.160 those people, uh wrought upon by nature. Honestly, I thought 0:16:35.160 --> 0:16:39.120 the scariest thing in terms of the the heightened kind 0:16:39.120 --> 0:16:41.440 of panic that might be a little overblown, was the 0:16:41.480 --> 0:16:44.120 toilet paper shortage. I didn't even see that there's a 0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:47.840 toilet paper shortage in Washington State, And I mean, I 0:16:47.840 --> 0:16:51.000 don't understand. I guess it's just buying everything up, but 0:16:51.040 --> 0:16:53.960 that's stocking up. Maybe they just had less toilet paper 0:16:54.000 --> 0:16:57.960 to begin with. There's all these paper bills there. Yeah, 0:16:58.240 --> 0:17:01.120 I know, hand sanitizer is out everywhere. I mean, I 0:17:01.120 --> 0:17:04.040 feel like this happens after every earthquake. In Los Angeles. 0:17:04.080 --> 0:17:08.200 People start stalking up after the earthquake because like people 0:17:08.280 --> 0:17:10.800 don't really think about it that much before, because nobody 0:17:10.800 --> 0:17:12.680 wants to be in a constant state of panic about 0:17:12.720 --> 0:17:16.240 like the impending earthquake that could always happen. But whatever, 0:17:16.280 --> 0:17:18.399 there is like a little earthquake, it's like you'll go 0:17:18.480 --> 0:17:22.040 to Target, it'll be like no bottled water left, so 0:17:23.119 --> 0:17:25.640 I mean, and there is like a big, more big earthquake, 0:17:25.680 --> 0:17:30.160 like after the big one. I guess it was like yeah, 0:17:30.160 --> 0:17:31.800 people do buy out all the stuff, and it makes 0:17:31.840 --> 0:17:33.720 you be like, wow, we're really not prepared for something 0:17:33.760 --> 0:17:37.080 like this at all. And if the chain of supply 0:17:37.320 --> 0:17:40.040 is also fucked up because it's an international crisis like 0:17:40.119 --> 0:17:44.280 this is, it just shows you how ill equipped like 0:17:44.600 --> 0:17:48.000 capitalism is to deal with its own creation. That's the 0:17:48.080 --> 0:17:50.680 lesson I feel like nobody is taking away from this 0:17:50.760 --> 0:17:54.520 is that like, oh, we're an't depending on everything from China, 0:17:54.560 --> 0:17:58.520 which we know intellectually, and now we're feeling it materially. Um, well, 0:17:58.520 --> 0:18:01.280 this is like globalism come home to roost and being 0:18:01.320 --> 0:18:03.080 like all the things that were just like getting swept 0:18:03.119 --> 0:18:05.760 under the rug are like gonna be a problem now. 0:18:06.040 --> 0:18:09.480 And it also provides the possibility of like all the 0:18:09.480 --> 0:18:13.760 people who don't have access to the bunkers coming together 0:18:14.000 --> 0:18:18.080 because it's it's bad, y'all. It's bad, especially with this, 0:18:18.160 --> 0:18:20.800 like we've been talking about, there's just so much misinformation. Still. 0:18:21.320 --> 0:18:24.760 Some of that misinformation is coming from supposedly legitimate news sources. 0:18:25.040 --> 0:18:27.960 Don't buy masks, don't buy surgical masks. They need them 0:18:27.960 --> 0:18:30.360 actually in hospitals to treat people who are sick, and 0:18:30.400 --> 0:18:33.439 they won't do ship for you. I would say the 0:18:33.480 --> 0:18:37.560 most controversial thing is how long do you wash your hands? 0:18:37.560 --> 0:18:41.120 For twenty seconds? That's what I hear. But here's the 0:18:41.119 --> 0:18:44.440 thing that I have a problem with. It's just that 0:18:44.520 --> 0:18:46.719 the water never comes out hot, so then you're just 0:18:46.800 --> 0:18:48.760 like washing your hands in cold water. I think, as 0:18:48.760 --> 0:18:52.600 long as you use soap, it's okay. Really with cold water, 0:18:52.920 --> 0:18:54.920 I heard it needs to be warm and it has 0:18:54.960 --> 0:18:57.560 to dissolve the lipid layer, and I saw you have 0:18:57.600 --> 0:18:59.199 to do it for twenty seconds. Well, I think if 0:18:59.240 --> 0:19:02.560 it's cold, you should ideally maybe do it for longer. 0:19:02.600 --> 0:19:05.360 I don't know. I'm not I'm not a hand washing 0:19:05.440 --> 0:19:11.199 scientists in short hand washes during the drought. Yeah, totally. 0:19:11.200 --> 0:19:13.400 I can't wash their hands for that long. I feel 0:19:13.440 --> 0:19:16.919 like I'm being a criminal. If there's a doctor in 0:19:17.000 --> 0:19:19.480 the house, please give us a night call and tell 0:19:19.560 --> 0:19:23.120 us how wash our hands for and how warm. We'd 0:19:23.119 --> 0:19:25.560 like to know how to scrub in. Oh. Also, just 0:19:25.640 --> 0:19:30.080 give us all your your pandemic thoughts at four if 0:19:30.119 --> 0:19:32.639 you're in the health industry. Also, I just want to 0:19:32.640 --> 0:19:35.440 know how many doctors listen to night calls, like, I 0:19:35.480 --> 0:19:39.120 don't know whether to be worried or encouraged your doctors. 0:19:39.320 --> 0:19:42.840 I know at least one gynecologist. Oh nice. Um, Well, 0:19:43.040 --> 0:19:46.800 speaking of ailments, let's take a night call that's sort 0:19:46.840 --> 0:19:49.800 of unrelated to spring break but relates back to our 0:19:49.800 --> 0:19:54.080 discussion of animals and CBD. I call This is Dave's 0:19:54.280 --> 0:19:56.920 long time listener, first time callers from the suburbs of 0:19:57.080 --> 0:20:01.400 suburbs of Detroit. I wanted to call all kids give 0:20:01.440 --> 0:20:05.360 a recommendation for CBD for your dog. We have a 0:20:05.400 --> 0:20:09.000 dog who's about fourteen years old and was diagnosed with 0:20:09.080 --> 0:20:13.800 cancer in the summer, and we decided to try UM 0:20:13.840 --> 0:20:18.560 giving CBD oil to the dog to help get her 0:20:18.600 --> 0:20:21.320 to have an appetite again. She wasn't eating much, she 0:20:21.400 --> 0:20:23.560 didn't want to go outside. When she would, she would 0:20:23.680 --> 0:20:26.600 just stand around. She wasn't running or playing or doing anything. 0:20:27.119 --> 0:20:30.719 UM first time we gave her CBD, she it was. 0:20:30.800 --> 0:20:35.160 It was within minutes a complete change and she was eating, 0:20:35.280 --> 0:20:38.800 she was playing like she normally, was still you know, 0:20:38.840 --> 0:20:42.800 an old dog, but was acting much more normal. And 0:20:43.160 --> 0:20:46.480 she was diagnosed in the summer um of last year 0:20:46.600 --> 0:20:49.840 and was only given a couple of months to live. 0:20:49.960 --> 0:20:53.240 And she's still with us today and is doing prime 0:20:53.359 --> 0:20:55.800 and hasn't had any additional symptoms. And we give her 0:20:55.920 --> 0:21:00.320 CBD UH twice a day, almost every single day, and 0:21:00.480 --> 0:21:02.960 UM swear by it at this point. So just make 0:21:02.960 --> 0:21:06.120 sure that you look UM to see that the place 0:21:06.200 --> 0:21:09.000 has their sources for how they do it and where 0:21:09.040 --> 0:21:10.720 you can look up on mind to make sure that 0:21:10.720 --> 0:21:13.440 there's nothing else in it. But other than that, it's 0:21:13.480 --> 0:21:17.840 been a lifesavor. I love the idea of dogs on CBD. 0:21:17.880 --> 0:21:19.399 I have to say, like I wish that I was 0:21:19.440 --> 0:21:23.800 a dog like that sounds like the nicest place to be. 0:21:24.000 --> 0:21:27.800 That's our spring break dream to be a dog on CBD. 0:21:28.119 --> 0:21:30.720 This is such a sweet call. I like, I you know, 0:21:30.720 --> 0:21:34.000 I buy it, like with my limited experience to CBD 0:21:34.080 --> 0:21:37.920 and like dogs are smaller. Probably I just love anecdotal 0:21:37.960 --> 0:21:41.399 evidence about anything that helps old dogs. Yeah, It's like 0:21:41.480 --> 0:21:44.280