Speaker 1: Welcome to Nightcall, a production of My Heart Radio. It's
Speaker 1: nine pm in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, and you're listening to
Speaker 1: Night Call. Hello, and welcome back to Night Call, a
Speaker 1: call in show about our dystopian reality. I'm Emily Ashida.
Speaker 1: I am here as always in Los Angeles, and with
Speaker 1: me are Tess Lynch and Molly Lambert. We are now
Speaker 1: deep into spring Break March. This is our theme of
Speaker 1: the month, and today we're gonna be talking about the
Speaker 1: definitive slash originating spring Break film where the boys are.
Speaker 1: And we're also going to be taking all your street
Speaker 1: great calls and emails you've given us over the past
Speaker 1: couple of weeks and we are still taking those. So
Speaker 1: if you have us ring break story to share, give
Speaker 1: us a call at one to four oh for six night,
Speaker 1: or if your phone shy, you can give us an
Speaker 1: email at Night Call podcast at gmail dot com. We're
Speaker 1: going to start off with an email from a listener.
Speaker 1: This email comes from listener Bowie and says, hey, night Call,
Speaker 1: long time, first time, and it's for the spring break theme.
Speaker 1: I never did a traditional spring break in college, but
Speaker 1: I did do an alternative spring break hosted by my
Speaker 1: university senior year, we went as a group to San
Speaker 1: Francisco from Texas to visit and volunteer with several activist organizations.
Speaker 1: I found it to be very educational for me, but
Speaker 1: ultimately I didn't feel like we helped anybody, and it
Speaker 1: was just an expensive and strange venture for us in
Speaker 1: the organizations. I know some mothers of these are based
Speaker 1: around habitat for humanity, so maybe those are more materially useful.
Speaker 1: I can't help but feel it might have been better
Speaker 1: to stay in our town and volunteer there. Did any
Speaker 1: of y'all do these in college? What do you think
Speaker 1: about volunteerism? Thanks for the podcast, Bowie. That's a good question.
Speaker 1: Voluntourism and tourism. I don't know. I mean I did.
Speaker 1: I did AmeriCorps, which is the closest thing to that
Speaker 1: that I've done. But that's a whole year. And did
Speaker 1: you feel like you were helping people? Yes, for that,
Speaker 1: but because it's a long term thing and you basically
Speaker 1: have a job for years, opposed to like dropping in air,
Speaker 1: dropping in for a week to someplace you have no
Speaker 1: connection to or you don't know the people there. Um,
Speaker 1: I can see how that would be that would maybe
Speaker 1: have a high possibility of bungling, I guess, But it's
Speaker 1: a nice it's a nice and intention at least to
Speaker 1: use your spring break for something like that. Yeah, positive
Speaker 1: spring break is a good idea. Yeah, it was making
Speaker 1: me think about like missionary trips kind of and whether
Speaker 1: there could be like a good version of that. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I think I think one thing and we
Speaker 1: can talk about this more when we get into where
Speaker 1: the boys are, because it was such a like I
Speaker 1: guess there's some of this and you see a little
Speaker 1: of this in the margins of spring breakers too, but
Speaker 1: like the idea like you're going as a representative from
Speaker 1: your college, right, Like, if you're going as a representative
Speaker 1: from your college and you're like a privilege enough person
Speaker 1: to be at college, Like, wouldn't you want to use
Speaker 1: that to do something non destructive? Um, that feels like
Speaker 1: a more reasonable impulse to have, But uh, I don't
Speaker 1: know a reason rarely rules danism. Baby. Yeah, I took
Speaker 1: a trip when I was a kid, and it was
Speaker 1: over winter break to El Salvador with UNI stuff. Um,
Speaker 1: and that was I think, you know, I didn't do
Speaker 1: that much. That was constructive because I was like twelve,
Speaker 1: but I you know, we handed out school supplies and stuff.
Speaker 1: But it was obviously I took away more from it
Speaker 1: than I gave to it. Um, But it is interesting.
Speaker 1: I worked with Rye Perk, which is a public interest
Speaker 1: research campaign kind of like Sierra Club UM in college
Speaker 1: over the summer, and that was I mean, it was
Speaker 1: good to get a sense of policies that I didn't
Speaker 1: know about and do outreach. But it's like, it's such
Speaker 1: a hard age to represent a cause. Well, especially back then,
Speaker 1: I think it was, UM, But it's it's interesting to
Speaker 1: think about the ways that you could spend spring break
Speaker 1: doing good volunt tourism. Yeah, what about your mine? Well,
Speaker 1: I like this probably person also was like maybe we
Speaker 1: just should have stayed home and like gotten more involved
Speaker 1: in local politics to UM, because I think that's also
Speaker 1: a good impulse. Is like the impulse to go help
Speaker 1: somewhere else can often be sublimated until like, well, what's
Speaker 1: even going right around me? Um. I worked at a
Speaker 1: food bank in high school. We had to do some volunteering, UM,
Speaker 1: and I you could choose where you did it, So
Speaker 1: I went to like a food bank and van Nuys
Speaker 1: that was run by nuns, um and I loved it
Speaker 1: because I loved the nuns. They were like chill nuns,
Speaker 1: which we'll get more into later. Um. But yeah, it
Speaker 1: was a just like it felt sort of like I
Speaker 1: wasn't thinking about it on like a policy point at
Speaker 1: that time in my life. I wasn't like we shouldn't
Speaker 1: need this because like people should be able to afford
Speaker 1: to eat food because everything is bad, and like the
Speaker 1: government should take care of this. But I was like,
Speaker 1: people who need food should get food, and it, you know,
Speaker 1: makes you feel like you're doing something to like hand
Speaker 1: it out to them. Yeah, speaking of alternatives to spring break,
Speaker 1: we are not in college, but I took a break
Speaker 1: from social media for two days. Yeah, I'm about to
Speaker 1: take another one. Well. No, it wasn't intended to be
Speaker 1: along spring break, because we all have to. I mean
Speaker 1: there's a certain element of like needing to stay engaged
Speaker 1: with social media for work. Um, so I knew that
Speaker 1: I would have to check in at some point, but
Speaker 1: I set limits on my phone and deleted some apps
Speaker 1: and stuff. Um. But well, it was amazing, and I
Speaker 1: mean it's it's going to be something where I know
Speaker 1: that I can't just disconnect entirely from it. I mean,
Speaker 1: I wish I could, but I feel like doing so.
Speaker 1: I mean, especially with coronavirus and everything, which we'll also
Speaker 1: talk more about in a minute, but there, you know,
Speaker 1: it's when you're watching the news as I was um
Speaker 1: or just refreshing a website, you're not getting things as immediately,
Speaker 1: which which is good, but it also kind of places
Speaker 1: you apart from how everyone else is receiving news, which
Speaker 1: feels kind of isolating and probably something you have to
Speaker 1: kind of find a balance and moderate it. It was
Speaker 1: so hard, you guys, to stay completely off social media
Speaker 1: for two days. Two days hard because I wasn't like
Speaker 1: on a trip, you know, or anything where I could
Speaker 1: be like I'm making this decision and putting myself in
Speaker 1: a different place. It was I was doing the same
Speaker 1: things that I do at night, which is like scrolling,
Speaker 1: just trying to scroll, but then you reach the bottom
Speaker 1: and there's nowhere else. They should take an app that's
Speaker 1: just a dumb social media feed that will just give
Speaker 1: you the satisfaction of scrolling and looking at things, but
Speaker 1: it's not like cooked up to anybody about when you
Speaker 1: reach like the endpoint, of that, and you're like, what
Speaker 1: did I used to do? Oh? Well, that's I mean,
Speaker 1: that's what's amazing. And I was like, could I find
Speaker 1: the same feeling anywhere else? The same feeling? But the
Speaker 1: feeling is a bad feeling. Well, that feeling it's a
Speaker 1: pretty hate machine, it is. Yeah, I feel like I
Speaker 1: need to do some kind of workshop to get people
Speaker 1: to like reduce her all together, eliminate social media use,
Speaker 1: because I just like I am at the point now
Speaker 1: where it's just like it feels like a chort has
Speaker 1: suggested that a straight edge movement should emerge for social
Speaker 1: media because he's been like our straight edged people, like,
Speaker 1: are they against social media? Because they should be. It's
Speaker 1: like an addictive substance. It's bad for you. Well, I
Speaker 1: think that there's like even a more embarrassing way to
Speaker 1: look at this, which is just like I think that
Speaker 1: an affliction of like the baby boomer era, which our
Speaker 1: generation and younger like love to clown on, is just
Speaker 1: their addiction to television. And it's because they were brought
Speaker 1: up in the era of television and television was the
Speaker 1: new shiny thing, much like social media is for us now,
Speaker 1: and like that's why you have now boomers who are
Speaker 1: completely informed by an endless feed of cable news coming
Speaker 1: into their heads. But we have the same thing. We
Speaker 1: just don't really like. We don't think to mock it,
Speaker 1: but it is just I think it is just as
Speaker 1: bad and destructive and warping of one sense of really
Speaker 1: make a bumper sticker that says kill your computer, like
Speaker 1: the kill Your's ironic to hear you guys saying that
Speaker 1: because I think both of you are. I think of
Speaker 1: you as being very online, even though I would admit
Speaker 1: that I'm more online than both of you. I just less.
Speaker 1: I do not know what's going on at all anymore.
Speaker 1: It's crazy, and you know what, It's fine because most
Speaker 1: of the time there's nothing I could do about it anyway.
Speaker 1: I'm only online if I don't have something to do.
Speaker 1: Whenever I have something to do and I'm like offline
Speaker 1: because I was like doing work or like going on
Speaker 1: a hike or something, I'm always like, why am I
Speaker 1: so happy? Oh? Because I'm not on Twitter. I think
Speaker 1: making up a fake job for yourself if you don't
Speaker 1: have like a bunch of busy work that you have
Speaker 1: to do, is also like like a hike, like a
Speaker 1: hike is a job that you have to do for
Speaker 1: a while. Like all that can easily drive just anything
Speaker 1: where you can't be looking at the screen. It's the
Speaker 1: only great thing about driving right now for me is
Speaker 1: that I don't I don't check the feeds on while
Speaker 1: I'm driving. Yeah, driving can be relaxing because it's not
Speaker 1: looking at a computer. Going on a plane and not
Speaker 1: buying the WiFi, so relaxed. I was at a coffee
Speaker 1: shop yesterday where the WiFi was out and it was amazing.
Speaker 1: I was like, well, I guess I just have to
Speaker 1: do my work, and then I just like did my work.
Speaker 1: I purposely I have to write. I will purposefully go
Speaker 1: to coffee shops that don't have WiFi because I will
Speaker 1: get so much more done. And if I need to
Speaker 1: check the feed I have to look at my phone.
Speaker 1: But then I feel like an idiot in my screen
Speaker 1: will go black and it's like I'm not working. Is
Speaker 1: it Jonathan Franzen that has like the cable plugged in
Speaker 1: and then snipped off. It's one of the Jonathan's. I
Speaker 1: was like, I'm so purious, like this is like won't
Speaker 1: even give myself the possibility of having the Internet on
Speaker 1: my computer and I mocked it at the time, but
Speaker 1: you know what, maybe maybe that was a correct Well,
Speaker 1: we are going to take a quick break. When we
Speaker 1: come back, We're gonna do a quick coronifier or something
Speaker 1: and more. Welcome back to Nightcall, guys. I asked this
Speaker 1: question the hallway ors. You're coming up here, But what
Speaker 1: happens if they kissed put Shella because of coronafis a
Speaker 1: lot of unprecedented things are happening, which is something you
Speaker 1: could just say all the time. Now many unused things
Speaker 1: are happening. But yeah, they just canceled Ultra fest, which
Speaker 1: is the big electronic music conference and festival. Is it indoors?
Speaker 1: It's outdoorsai I was going to hypothesize that Coachella could
Speaker 1: go on as scheduled, but the indoor music festivals should
Speaker 1: be concerts. There are some theories that like extreme heat
Speaker 1: kills it, but again none of Yeah, I mean extreme
Speaker 1: heat also kills people. That's why they moved to Coachella
Speaker 1: to April. Yeah, uh yeah, I mean a lot of
Speaker 1: big events are getting canceled. People are pulling out of
Speaker 1: south By Southwest. It is very interesting to see what
Speaker 1: people are doing. Just like our whole economy is so
Speaker 1: oriented around crowds. Yeah, I am getting I'm still on
Speaker 1: all these lists from south By from when I would
Speaker 1: go for work and getting these emails from different pr
Speaker 1: people like we're still going, oh I just got one
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, they're like, we'll still be there. It's
Speaker 1: very Yeah, it's interesting because it's like people have a
Speaker 1: lot of money sunk into these things, so like they
Speaker 1: don't want to pull out obviously, Um, that's what's going
Speaker 1: on with the Olympics now still too is like Japan
Speaker 1: wants to pull out and the IOC is like nope,
Speaker 1: it's happening. So that's been interesting to watch because yeah,
Speaker 1: there's like so much money on the line. Then it's like, well,
Speaker 1: there's also lives on the line, and it's not worth it.
Speaker 1: And maybe as a society we're having to re evaluate
Speaker 1: how we think about people and profit generally. And this
Speaker 1: is like a very on the nose, like hey, what
Speaker 1: if there was a health epidemic suddenly that affected everybody
Speaker 1: and nobody could escape from. On the other hand, I
Speaker 1: do feel like especially in the United States, and of
Speaker 1: course it depends on what part of the United States
Speaker 1: you're in, but like I don't know, like like Sundance
Speaker 1: happened kind of right before full on coronavirus panic was happening,
Speaker 1: and everybody I know got violently ill after going to say, well,
Speaker 1: don't people always get sick at film festivals and and
Speaker 1: sometimes and sometimes not. This is also a terrible flu season. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's also a double barreled flu season, is what I read,
Speaker 1: which means there's two types of other flu going around.
Speaker 1: There's there's influenza and influenza B. And the vaccine I
Speaker 1: want to say was not very effective against influenza B.
Speaker 1: I may be wrong. That's also why people who are
Speaker 1: getting sick immediately or like I'm patient zero of the
Speaker 1: coronavirus and then they are not all. My dad got
Speaker 1: sick a while ago, like a week ago, and he
Speaker 1: was taken to the hospital and they tested him for
Speaker 1: coronavirus because he had been traveling, and he was he
Speaker 1: was negative. And then he went for a follow up
Speaker 1: appointment when he got home and he coughed in the
Speaker 1: waiting room and everyone like drew back from him and
Speaker 1: he was like, no, I'm negative. One of you who
Speaker 1: can say, also, how much did that test cost? Well,
Speaker 1: he didn't have a choice about it, and he has
Speaker 1: really good insurance, which is wonderful. But we will see.
Speaker 1: I believe it's three thousand all. This is where I
Speaker 1: learned that, and then I saw that also other places
Speaker 1: people being like, well that's the price. But then like
Speaker 1: every other country is just like administering it for free
Speaker 1: because it's like worth it. Yeah, yeah, no, it's it's
Speaker 1: it's kind of infuriating to see how, well, what do
Speaker 1: you think people should do if we can't like go
Speaker 1: have a traditional spring break in a group of people, Like,
Speaker 1: what's like, what's like a good indoor kids springs? Go camping?
Speaker 1: I think camping because then you're you're basically isolated in nature.
Speaker 1: There's no crowds, you can drive there, you don't have
Speaker 1: to fly, you're basically packing your own stuff, you don't
Speaker 1: have to go into any stores. I hate camping, but
Speaker 1: other people, well, I also like when we were talking
Speaker 1: last week about the live stream raves and wuhan, yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like doing some combination of that plus going
Speaker 1: someplace you can drive to from your from your home
Speaker 1: so you don't have to fly, and renting a cabin
Speaker 1: far away from civilization, bringing lots of water basically like
Speaker 1: doing a mini prepper vacation. What about a quarantine crowd
Speaker 1: where it's like taking something like the Circle or love
Speaker 1: is blind but like for good, which I think is
Speaker 1: kind of what you were saying about the live streams.
Speaker 1: The quarantine live streams is like, what if it's just
Speaker 1: like everybody throws a mini rave in their own house
Speaker 1: where you just like, then they're then they're more tethered
Speaker 1: to social media. Again, that's something I feel like, what
Speaker 1: if the virus what if we don't know it, but
Speaker 1: what if the virus is spreading through social media? Guys,
Speaker 1: what if the virtual crowds it's bleeding out of your
Speaker 1: computer and everybody just got back into second life. I'm
Speaker 1: down for that. I mean again with the like trying
Speaker 1: to think about what it's like to describe this to
Speaker 1: your past self. But it's like going everybody wants to
Speaker 1: go viral on social media, but also they're mad at
Speaker 1: this thing that replicates itself viral e R. Well. I
Speaker 1: I also just I feel like the the impulse to
Speaker 1: go for full doomsday on this is like it feels
Speaker 1: very conservative to me. So I'm always super worried about
Speaker 1: like we can't do this and this and this and
Speaker 1: make people but buying up face masks and stuff. And
Speaker 1: I think it's mostly because of an aesthetic. It's fun
Speaker 1: to cause play the end of the world like, that's
Speaker 1: why preppers are into prepp pain. It's like fun to
Speaker 1: do like this, make believe. I don't think they think
Speaker 1: it's fun. No, I don't think that it's I don't
Speaker 1: think they're trying to play. I think preppers really think
Speaker 1: the end of the world is coming. But there's something
Speaker 1: about the idea of that happening that is the future
Speaker 1: they want to believe in the cozy catastrophe. Sure, I'll
Speaker 1: be the last person like or like like people who
Speaker 1: watch you know, Mad Max, and they're like, I want
Speaker 1: to live in that world that's afraid is to see
Speaker 1: those people, uh wrought upon by nature. Honestly, I thought
Speaker 1: the scariest thing in terms of the the heightened kind
Speaker 1: of panic that might be a little overblown, was the
Speaker 1: toilet paper shortage. I didn't even see that there's a
Speaker 1: toilet paper shortage in Washington State, And I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't understand. I guess it's just buying everything up, but
Speaker 1: that's stocking up. Maybe they just had less toilet paper
Speaker 1: to begin with. There's all these paper bills there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, hand sanitizer is out everywhere. I mean, I
Speaker 1: feel like this happens after every earthquake. In Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: People start stalking up after the earthquake because like people
Speaker 1: don't really think about it that much before, because nobody
Speaker 1: wants to be in a constant state of panic about
Speaker 1: like the impending earthquake that could always happen. But whatever,
Speaker 1: there is like a little earthquake, it's like you'll go
Speaker 1: to Target, it'll be like no bottled water left, so
Speaker 1: I mean, and there is like a big, more big earthquake,
Speaker 1: like after the big one. I guess it was like yeah,
Speaker 1: people do buy out all the stuff, and it makes
Speaker 1: you be like, wow, we're really not prepared for something
Speaker 1: like this at all. And if the chain of supply
Speaker 1: is also fucked up because it's an international crisis like
Speaker 1: this is, it just shows you how ill equipped like
Speaker 1: capitalism is to deal with its own creation. That's the
Speaker 1: lesson I feel like nobody is taking away from this
Speaker 1: is that like, oh, we're an't depending on everything from China,
Speaker 1: which we know intellectually, and now we're feeling it materially. Um, well,
Speaker 1: this is like globalism come home to roost and being
Speaker 1: like all the things that were just like getting swept
Speaker 1: under the rug are like gonna be a problem now.
Speaker 1: And it also provides the possibility of like all the
Speaker 1: people who don't have access to the bunkers coming together
Speaker 1: because it's it's bad, y'all. It's bad, especially with this,
Speaker 1: like we've been talking about, there's just so much misinformation. Still.
Speaker 1: Some of that misinformation is coming from supposedly legitimate news sources.
Speaker 1: Don't buy masks, don't buy surgical masks. They need them
Speaker 1: actually in hospitals to treat people who are sick, and
Speaker 1: they won't do ship for you. I would say the
Speaker 1: most controversial thing is how long do you wash your hands?
Speaker 1: For twenty seconds? That's what I hear. But here's the
Speaker 1: thing that I have a problem with. It's just that
Speaker 1: the water never comes out hot, so then you're just
Speaker 1: like washing your hands in cold water. I think, as
Speaker 1: long as you use soap, it's okay. Really with cold water,
Speaker 1: I heard it needs to be warm and it has
Speaker 1: to dissolve the lipid layer, and I saw you have
Speaker 1: to do it for twenty seconds. Well, I think if
Speaker 1: it's cold, you should ideally maybe do it for longer.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not I'm not a hand washing
Speaker 1: scientists in short hand washes during the drought. Yeah, totally.
Speaker 1: I can't wash their hands for that long. I feel
Speaker 1: like I'm being a criminal. If there's a doctor in
Speaker 1: the house, please give us a night call and tell
Speaker 1: us how wash our hands for and how warm. We'd
Speaker 1: like to know how to scrub in. Oh. Also, just
Speaker 1: give us all your your pandemic thoughts at four if
Speaker 1: you're in the health industry. Also, I just want to
Speaker 1: know how many doctors listen to night calls, like, I
Speaker 1: don't know whether to be worried or encouraged your doctors.
Speaker 1: I know at least one gynecologist. Oh nice. Um, Well,
Speaker 1: speaking of ailments, let's take a night call that's sort
Speaker 1: of unrelated to spring break but relates back to our
Speaker 1: discussion of animals and CBD. I call This is Dave's
Speaker 1: long time listener, first time callers from the suburbs of
Speaker 1: suburbs of Detroit. I wanted to call all kids give
Speaker 1: a recommendation for CBD for your dog. We have a
Speaker 1: dog who's about fourteen years old and was diagnosed with
Speaker 1: cancer in the summer, and we decided to try UM
Speaker 1: giving CBD oil to the dog to help get her
Speaker 1: to have an appetite again. She wasn't eating much, she
Speaker 1: didn't want to go outside. When she would, she would
Speaker 1: just stand around. She wasn't running or playing or doing anything.
Speaker 1: UM first time we gave her CBD, she it was.
Speaker 1: It was within minutes a complete change and she was eating,
Speaker 1: she was playing like she normally, was still you know,
Speaker 1: an old dog, but was acting much more normal. And
Speaker 1: she was diagnosed in the summer um of last year
Speaker 1: and was only given a couple of months to live.
Speaker 1: And she's still with us today and is doing prime
Speaker 1: and hasn't had any additional symptoms. And we give her
Speaker 1: CBD UH twice a day, almost every single day, and
Speaker 1: UM swear by it at this point. So just make
Speaker 1: sure that you look UM to see that the place
Speaker 1: has their sources for how they do it and where
Speaker 1: you can look up on mind to make sure that
Speaker 1: there's nothing else in it. But other than that, it's
Speaker 1: been a lifesavor. I love the idea of dogs on CBD.
Speaker 1: I have to say, like I wish that I was
Speaker 1: a dog like that sounds like the nicest place to be.
Speaker 1: That's our spring break dream to be a dog on CBD.
Speaker 1: This is such a sweet call. I like, I you know,
Speaker 1: I buy it, like with my limited experience to CBD
Speaker 1: and like dogs are smaller. Probably I just love anecdotal
Speaker 1: evidence about anything that helps old dogs. Yeah, It's like
Speaker 1: if someone just says, like I have an old dog,
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, ship, I'm a mark for this, Like,
Speaker 1: tell me it's good. Please. Maybe your old dog just
Speaker 1: likes getting a rub down and that's cool too. I
Speaker 1: don't know, though, I feel like we know so little
Speaker 1: about how animals minds were, you know that, I just
Speaker 1: want to believe it's it's kind of sad when you
Speaker 1: think that you'll never know how animals feel about being
Speaker 1: pets and like what they really want from their lives.
Speaker 1: You know, I feel like you can sort of sense
Speaker 1: you can. You think you can, because otherwise you're going
Speaker 1: to have a real conundrum of wondering if your animals,
Speaker 1: like want to belong to a different family or want
Speaker 1: to live out in the wild. You just don't know.
Speaker 1: I always think about this with indoor cats because living
Speaker 1: in l A, I think it's a little irresponsible. Sorry
Speaker 1: to have an outdoor cat. Um depends where you live.
Speaker 1: It definitely depends where you live. But just in the
Speaker 1: past like five years, three of our neighborhood cats we
Speaker 1: we've found have been hit by cars or can by,
Speaker 1: saying if they were on CBD, they would just chill
Speaker 1: at home. Well, I'm wondering if there's more that we
Speaker 1: can do to improve their quality enjoy being a prisoner.
Speaker 1: I'm definitely going to gift one of my cats CBD
Speaker 1: do it, but we're back. My friend Maya, who works
Speaker 1: at a vet said it's it's real. She claims it's
Speaker 1: real and that it like helps dogs that have like
Speaker 1: cancer treatments and stuff. I'm going to give it to.
Speaker 1: My dog is very not fond of her food, and
Speaker 1: I always think that sucks. But I can't give her
Speaker 1: other food. She's old and they can't creatitus and my
Speaker 1: cat starts me owing in the middle of the night.
Speaker 1: So one of the vets game I think I talked
Speaker 1: about this already of that gave me like a downer
Speaker 1: for her, like a kitty xanax, and I felt so
Speaker 1: guilty about giving it to her, and then when I did,
Speaker 1: it was like Phantom Thread. I was like, oh, my
Speaker 1: beautiful day. Oh you're so weak. I have to take
Speaker 1: care of you for lad on your back one. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But then I was like, I don't want my cat
Speaker 1: to be on xan X, Like I don't want to
Speaker 1: be I personally don't have good feelings about XANAX, so
Speaker 1: like I don't want to put my cat on cat
Speaker 1: zan X. Once I had this chameleon named Billy who
Speaker 1: was a Jackson's chameleon. They have three horns and they
Speaker 1: look like little dinosaurs. And he lived a very long,
Speaker 1: long life, like longer than we expected. And then he
Speaker 1: got some kind of a bacterial infection and my dad
Speaker 1: had to inject him with antibiotics. It was just the
Speaker 1: weirdest experience, like watching this creature who can give you
Speaker 1: no indication of their happiness other than like if they're healthy.
Speaker 1: And I guess with chameleons, they kind of they change
Speaker 1: color ableausly when they're in distress, but they don't you
Speaker 1: don't necessarily believe that you can like read how they're
Speaker 1: feeling based on that. But when he would get injected
Speaker 1: with the antibiotic, he would change colors as the antibiotic
Speaker 1: like enter his crazy. It was really crazy. Oh my god, Wow,
Speaker 1: I know animals are so cool. Give them CBD. I
Speaker 1: related to CBD. I was a Bed Bath and Beyond um,
Speaker 1: which I feel I was having this thought. I spent
Speaker 1: like probably over an hour in Bed Bath and Beyond. Um.
Speaker 1: I feel like Bed Bathroom Beyond has like real night
Speaker 1: call vibes. It definitely does. Every quack product that exists
Speaker 1: in the world is sold at Bed Bath and Beyond.
Speaker 1: But they had on sale there and I didn't get them,
Speaker 1: but maybe I should get them and report back. Um
Speaker 1: CBD oil infused pillows. Oh yeah. Last time I went
Speaker 1: into bed Beyond, it was a online over there and
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, they sell CBD at bed Bath
Speaker 1: and Beyond. Now, totally, there's so much CBD. Do they
Speaker 1: not sell CBD anymore? I went to the Pink Elephant,
Speaker 1: which is a liquor store, to get a lottery ticket
Speaker 1: because I'm living a wholesome, great life right now, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, let's get into this. They had this giant
Speaker 1: display of very fancy herbal teas with CBD and recess soda.
Speaker 1: Some of them nice if they have CBD herbal tea.
Speaker 1: If I tried to peach one. It was fantastic. It
Speaker 1: had a dose of CBD like some of them have,
Speaker 1: like store on Pink Elephant, which is a liquor store
Speaker 1: on West Sponsor. Feel please do, I'm there a lot.
Speaker 1: I do feel like it's the CBD. You just you
Speaker 1: got to know what you're getting and how could you
Speaker 1: possibly know? Yeah, you don't know, you don't, But do
Speaker 1: you ever know what you're getting at any night? No,
Speaker 1: you don't know what's in a regular pillow? What on
Speaker 1: earth isn't it feathered or synthetic? Have both synthetic pillows.
Speaker 1: I'm very skeptical about. Well, there's so many, Like it
Speaker 1: makes you worried about pillows when you go to bed
Speaker 1: back because it's like it's like there are so many
Speaker 1: options for pillows, and I was like, I thought they
Speaker 1: were just pillows. This is gonna end with all of
Speaker 1: us covering our pillows and tinfoil and sleeping in a
Speaker 1: tinfoil bed. Um creekly pretty great. You could be a
Speaker 1: baked potato. Do you have silver infused pillow? Yeah? Yeah, ocationally, Um,
Speaker 1: maybe I will get the CBD pillow and I'll report
Speaker 1: back and I'll do I'll it'll be for work, it'll
Speaker 1: be expensive. Yeah, we're gonna take another break and then
Speaker 1: we will be back with where welcome back. We were
Speaker 1: taking your spring break night calls months and we had
Speaker 1: a night call from a listener about a spring break
Speaker 1: gone awry. Hi, this is Spie. Um. I'm calling about
Speaker 1: spring break because in two thousand and six it was
Speaker 1: sixth grade and on the first day of springbreak, and
Speaker 1: Parence took me to see the nearly young concert movie
Speaker 1: Heart of Gold at the Beverly Center Movie Here West
Speaker 1: And when we got home, my boyfriend had left a
Speaker 1: voice now on my parents home phon nancial machine, which
Speaker 1: my mom had received a couple hours earlier, and the
Speaker 1: voicemail was a lengthy explanation of why he was breaking
Speaker 1: up with me. That's so savage. Wait that was sixth
Speaker 1: grade though two thousand and six she was in sixth grade.
Speaker 1: Oh no, that's not That wasn't my She said she
Speaker 1: was in sixth grade. I just wanted to make sure
Speaker 1: that this is a middle school break up. I think
Speaker 1: it is sounds like a middle school break Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean the parents thing. When you told me about
Speaker 1: this before that there was somebody who broke up with
Speaker 1: somebody over a parent's phone. I was like, that's a
Speaker 1: weird move for call. This was a sixth grade but
Speaker 1: also sixth grade, I have to say those relationships were real. Mmmmm,
Speaker 1: I don't know about all that really. I see some
Speaker 1: people had boyfriends and six yeah a long distance not
Speaker 1: to boast he lives in Canada. Really hot guy. Well,
Speaker 1: I do remember in middle school people having like two
Speaker 1: week long relationships was the longest anyone's relationship was so
Speaker 1: like the idea that you could be in a relationship
Speaker 1: and then out of it over a spring break. I
Speaker 1: didn't even have a fake relationship, Like my fake two
Speaker 1: week relationship was in my freshman year of high school.
Speaker 1: Like that that was the first time some of us
Speaker 1: weren't as cool and popular as tests super cool and
Speaker 1: popular and six. We just have to accept that. I
Speaker 1: when I went to school in New York where I
Speaker 1: moved when I was like very little, there was a
Speaker 1: super intense, like fake dating scene going on, which is
Speaker 1: weird because one of my kids I won't identify which,
Speaker 1: but I'm sure you can guess. Um it has already
Speaker 1: Like his class, everybody's talking about like who has a
Speaker 1: crush on whom and who's dating whom and all of
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff, But his friends at different schools
Speaker 1: don't necessarily and some of them are like the girls
Speaker 1: are like, oh yeah, he's my boyfriend, and the guy
Speaker 1: doesn't know and all of this stuff. But I think
Speaker 1: it just once it enters the discourse, it's there and
Speaker 1: everybody's kind of playing it along. But I think it
Speaker 1: mostly it displays itself in stuff like this, where it's
Speaker 1: like this performer performative breakup, performative breakup. I remember now
Speaker 1: you're just like recalling, like there was definitely like a
Speaker 1: rumor about two sixth graders who had sex always and
Speaker 1: every school. It's like those two, yeah, somebody. But I
Speaker 1: also remember like my older, my slightly older family friend
Speaker 1: being like, wait till you get to middle school. I
Speaker 1: see what I mean, but I mean I it. I
Speaker 1: guess I had fake relationships in like kindergarten in first grade,
Speaker 1: but those felt more substantial than like that ninth grade one,
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, because there wasn't it wasn't charged with
Speaker 1: all this awkwardness. Yet it was just like we like
Speaker 1: to hang out and drop pictures of spiders. You guys
Speaker 1: made it two weeks. I don't remember. That would have
Speaker 1: been a big deal, you know, I mean in ninth grade. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was probably two weeks, because when we were at
Speaker 1: that age, I had one that I think I made
Speaker 1: it like three days. Molly remembers Navy. There was a
Speaker 1: two week process though, to get to dating. And then
Speaker 1: it immediately was it was like he gave you a note.
Speaker 1: You had to like think about it. You were just
Speaker 1: flattered somebody wanted to go out with you, so you
Speaker 1: were like, I really like him, but like I should
Speaker 1: probably do it right. Oh my god. Elena Smith wrote
Speaker 1: today that she had a motto in eighth and ninth
Speaker 1: grade that was always all skaters are hot, and even
Speaker 1: if they're not, date them anyway because their friends will
Speaker 1: be hot. And so say, that's true. Wow, that's so wise.
Speaker 1: Um um. Also, I'm not just I think New York kids,
Speaker 1: those fast living. Yeah, I think it's just someone who
Speaker 1: someone has an older sibling and so they see how
Speaker 1: it works and then they bring it in. They imported
Speaker 1: into their pure group much like a virus. It is
Speaker 1: exactly like it's at some schools and not at others.
Speaker 1: I think you're right. Yeah, Well, Springbreak. It's clear changes.
Speaker 1: Everybody not have a heart of gold. No. Also just
Speaker 1: that detail of like going to the Beverly Center movie
Speaker 1: seeing the Neil Young movie with the movie at the
Speaker 1: Beverly Center much less than But also it sounds like
Speaker 1: your parents raised you right totally. You probably found love
Speaker 1: again because you weren't the problem there. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean spring Break, even if you're not in Camcoon or
Speaker 1: Fort Lauderdale. It's uh, people really like people change change,
Speaker 1: they reassess their change. Um. This week we tried to
Speaker 1: get back into the origins of Springbreak by watching film
Speaker 1: Where the Boys Are, and it is about how people change.
Speaker 1: It's also about and well in Florida, Where the Boys
Speaker 1: Are about where the Boys Are, which happens to before
Speaker 1: Fort Lauderdale, Florida. Um, I got all kinds of fun
Speaker 1: facts about where the Boys Are. So Where the Boys
Speaker 1: Are came out in nineteen sixty. It was a huge
Speaker 1: surprise hit, and it was so successful that it then
Speaker 1: spawned a lot of rip offs, including the Frankie and
Speaker 1: a Net Beach Party movies. Um, but also all of
Speaker 1: these things. So it's based on a novel written by
Speaker 1: a guy from Arizona, who observed it's going to the
Speaker 1: beaches in the fifties, and it was originally a novel
Speaker 1: called Unholy Spring, and then the studio was like, can
Speaker 1: we change it to where the boys are? And he
Speaker 1: said sure. Um. In the novel, the college students are
Speaker 1: raising money to send a Fidel Castro um, but they
Speaker 1: do not have that as part of the plot line
Speaker 1: in the movie. Obviously, wait, why are they wait because
Speaker 1: they're pro castro? But what what like in what context?
Speaker 1: Like at once they're on the beach, they're like doing fundraisers,
Speaker 1: they know. I just found this detail that was like,
Speaker 1: there's a whole plot line in the novel about how
Speaker 1: they're all pro castro. I'm just saying right now, we're
Speaker 1: putting this in the book club at some point, Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: we have to. And it's very like, maybe just think
Speaker 1: about chaos somewhere too common, um, because it's just just
Speaker 1: like nineteen sixty is so weird. It's long fifties. Sixty Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like before the sixties really kicking. It's that long fifties,
Speaker 1: but you can feel the sixties are coming because everybody's
Speaker 1: really horny and ready to test the limits of society.
Speaker 1: In new ways. So the Kinseye report had just come
Speaker 1: out when this movie came out, and the birth control
Speaker 1: pill got approved. On May nine sixty, the first commercially
Speaker 1: available birth control pill came out, called in Avid ten.
Speaker 1: This movie opens with Merit, who is played by Dolores Hart,
Speaker 1: giving a speech in her health class at her cold
Speaker 1: midwestern university about how a girl should be able to
Speaker 1: have pre marital sex. But she calls it making out
Speaker 1: what she calls it making out and then playing playing
Speaker 1: before your Ma was like, what what does that mean?
Speaker 1: And then I really like I thought it was living together.
Speaker 1: That's what I thought too. I was a little confused
Speaker 1: with Then she was like, call it what you want.
Speaker 1: They used to call it petting or bundling. Bundling, and
Speaker 1: the old teacher and dean or like you stop that
Speaker 1: with your sexual liberating. And the dean is a little
Speaker 1: bit like wink wink, nudge sympathetic. She's like, bring your
Speaker 1: grades up and we'll forget all about this. She's like,
Speaker 1: she's so smart. I can't believe that she's having academic troubles.
Speaker 1: Like I think, really, well, that's my because I'm like,
Speaker 1: she can't focus on one thing. But she's got an
Speaker 1: i Q of a hundred and thirty eight. Maybe she
Speaker 1: must be a good studies as everyone knows, but maybe
Speaker 1: she's she doesn't have any e Q, which is why
Speaker 1: she has to go. No, she says, she's asked directly
Speaker 1: by the dean. She's like, why you're so smart? Why
Speaker 1: why are your grades just okay? And she was like,
Speaker 1: I just can't focus on that. I just don't care
Speaker 1: that much doing it. Boys are everywhere, look, even smart
Speaker 1: girls guys. So teenagers had just been invented in the
Speaker 1: what do you mean, Yeah, yeah, that the term teenager
Speaker 1: did not exist before, like basically pre war. It was
Speaker 1: so they could market to them, and an Helen Peterson
Speaker 1: write a book about Yeah, I mean like the Andy
Speaker 1: the Andy Hardy series with Mickey Rooney, which was about
Speaker 1: basically Archie Andrews type stuff of like teenage. You know.
Speaker 1: The idea that there was a new economic class of
Speaker 1: people that were not considered children but we're not considered
Speaker 1: adults and had capital to spend happened in the forties
Speaker 1: and fifties. So the idea that by the fifties and sixties,
Speaker 1: those people could scrap it together enough money to go
Speaker 1: on spring was new, um, but obviously coming out of
Speaker 1: like weird spring back in alias in the DNA of
Speaker 1: human beings. Um. But the concept of spring break was
Speaker 1: really invented by this novel, apparently the concept of college
Speaker 1: spring break. Yeah. That's so interesting because like it is
Speaker 1: based on a book that was like a real like
Speaker 1: a social research into like or write. It was like
Speaker 1: it was, but it was like based on it was
Speaker 1: based on I think his own experiences of like there
Speaker 1: were people who would drive down to beach towns in
Speaker 1: the fifties on their break from college in order to
Speaker 1: see if there were other kids from other schools. But
Speaker 1: this book publicized the idea of like a mad, mad
Speaker 1: rush of students of a million horny young people going
Speaker 1: to a beach town and taking it over. Um. And
Speaker 1: it was like, yeah, it was like the love in
Speaker 1: or something. It was. People saw it as an idea
Speaker 1: and then they were like, I want to do that.
Speaker 1: That's the thing you can do. I'm gonna do it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then all those towns became spring break destinations. I
Speaker 1: really enjoyed this movie. Um. I hadn't seen it, so
Speaker 1: I was really glad to be introduced to it. Um.
Speaker 1: But we did point tests. I think you said it's
Speaker 1: a horror movie. I was quoting Molly I when she
Speaker 1: said I was like, Oh, it's true because the suspense
Speaker 1: is building and you're like, I think it's the suspense
Speaker 1: towards fun and then you're like, no, not play outs
Speaker 1: it down or ending. Yeah, well it has to. I
Speaker 1: feel like like like like morally, it's like obliged to
Speaker 1: be like, don't be a slut, that's what's Yeah, I've
Speaker 1: realized that a lot of the movies test has introduced
Speaker 1: me to that. I really love our movies that are
Speaker 1: like a woman having fun, experimenting and then she gets
Speaker 1: like punished very badly. Sometimes that's because I grew up
Speaker 1: with Katholic formerly how to Be looking for Mr Goodbar,
Speaker 1: so that the good Bar, but that's much more depressing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but just the first you get to see them have fun.
Speaker 1: And so it also just makes you think about how
Speaker 1: few movies there are like this still that are just
Speaker 1: like four female protagonists having fun. Well, look what they
Speaker 1: did to Samantha and Sex in the City. It's the
Speaker 1: same thing. Yeah. So I also like, even though I've
Speaker 1: only watched probably like five episodes of Sex in the
Speaker 1: city in my entire life, I know who all of
Speaker 1: the four of the girls are. Yes, exactly would you
Speaker 1: like to explain? Um, if I can remember everybody's name.
Speaker 1: We have Merit played by Dolores Hart, So that's um,
Speaker 1: that's Carrie, right, Yeah, Mary's for sure. Yeah, she like
Speaker 1: like kind of made me want to their entire thing.
Speaker 1: Who's who is Tuggle? Tuggle is by Paul Apprentice, is
Speaker 1: um is um Cynthie Nixon, Miranda, Miranda especially because of
Speaker 1: the dude, well thede such a Miranda Tuggle. Tuggle was
Speaker 1: all about having babies, so in that sense, she's kind
Speaker 1: of a Charlotte. She said, I'm a baby machine. And
Speaker 1: Connie France kind of a Miranda because she's so self deprecated.
Speaker 1: I think Connie Francis is Miranda. Yeah that dude when
Speaker 1: she dates an ugly guy as well. Yeah, not that
Speaker 1: not that TV is ugly, but personality is ugly. TV
Speaker 1: and the Chaz basically both dudes type dated it likes
Speaker 1: here for the Riddler basically, I mean I was very
Speaker 1: I felt very seen by both of us. Also think
Speaker 1: TV is totally like I think TV was hot, sup.
Speaker 1: He was definitely in terms of just like objectively, well,
Speaker 1: that's the problem. When you see him at the beginning,
Speaker 1: when he's like a hitchhiker, fast talking guy, I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I love him, but he's wearing like a hoodie and
Speaker 1: he looks like he just walked out of like a
Speaker 1: dirt bag bar exactly. But then he turns out to
Speaker 1: just be just trouble. Yeah, he's not the most dependable
Speaker 1: guy in the world. So yeah. This movie is about
Speaker 1: four co eds from the same school in the Midwest
Speaker 1: going down together to Florida and sharing a room with
Speaker 1: like a hundred other girls. Their number increases as the
Speaker 1: movie goes on, and then no one seems to know
Speaker 1: how they got into the motel room. Yeah, and trying
Speaker 1: to find love but also deciding whether to have casual sex. Um.
Speaker 1: This movie from nineteen sixty and it feels so weirdly modern. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it doesn't feel dated in the way that you expect
Speaker 1: it to. It doesn't feel like a Doris Day Rock
Speaker 1: Hudson movie. It feels like from a real place of
Speaker 1: you know, just even seeing the main character sort of
Speaker 1: be like, maybe I do want to have sex before
Speaker 1: marriage still feels sort of nuts. Camille Paglia, who is
Speaker 1: a stupid dummy who's bad loves this movie. How do
Speaker 1: you really feel, Molly? She loves it for bad reasons
Speaker 1: because she's like because she's like she like invoked it
Speaker 1: in something about like date rape campus culture, where she
Speaker 1: was like, women just should assume men are trying to
Speaker 1: rape them all the time. In this movie, he has
Speaker 1: like a straightforward handle on that it's the women's fault
Speaker 1: if they don't make sure that they don't do something stupid. See,
Speaker 1: that's not the one thing that I did find a
Speaker 1: little bit, even though it does do this thing where
Speaker 1: it punishes the sluttiest of the four of them, the Samantha.
Speaker 1: It's so sad, it's very sad, but it's like she
Speaker 1: can get by a car, Like it's not just that
Speaker 1: she gets raped. When she does get raped, then she
Speaker 1: gets hit by a car because she's so sad, she
Speaker 1: walks into traffic. She's trying to kill herself. Oh was that?
Speaker 1: And then in the hospital she's like, yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: guess I didn't. Yeah I didn't. I didn't interpret that
Speaker 1: as a suicide attempt. But then afterwards she was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: scooking is exactly like spring Breakers. In many ways, it
Speaker 1: is also about sort of being like, how fun do
Speaker 1: I want to be? Or am I like the scared woos?
Speaker 1: Who's going to like not go out to the fun party.
Speaker 1: That that character doesn't exist though, and there's no real
Speaker 1: scared woos. There are people who like have a hard
Speaker 1: time finding the right dude, like Connie. Like Connie Francis
Speaker 1: Marritt ultimately decides that she doesn't want to have sex
Speaker 1: because she like likes him too much. Her bow is
Speaker 1: George Hamilton, who plays a guy who went to Brown
Speaker 1: and We'll not let you forget it because he introduced
Speaker 1: himself constantly is like rider who went to Brown and
Speaker 1: then he's also wearing a blazer with a brown insignia
Speaker 1: blazer to Spring He just doesn't want you to forget
Speaker 1: where there's this idea that they're all like got a
Speaker 1: bag in Ivy League guy the Yale's lived downstairs of
Speaker 1: course are the bad rapists and Brown guy is the
Speaker 1: nice handsome Yeah, George Hamilton is so hot. What don't
Speaker 1: do it for me? I told my husband, I was like,
Speaker 1: I think George Hamilton has a nice nose, and he
Speaker 1: was like, we can just do away he's Yes, he's
Speaker 1: very handsome, like he might be the most handsome if
Speaker 1: you've seen him old, and then you see what he
Speaker 1: looked like young, You're like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that
Speaker 1: makes sense. But he is a real rich guy from Miami.
Speaker 1: I found out from like Palm Beach, and he was
Speaker 1: like a serious actor. Um, and he did this movie
Speaker 1: because he was in the stable of the studio MGM.
Speaker 1: I think that made it, but he thought it was
Speaker 1: kind of stupid, and then it became like the biggest
Speaker 1: hit of his career. And then at a point in
Speaker 1: the seventies, he started playing just like rich guys in movies.
Speaker 1: He started playing sort of like a carry Grant type
Speaker 1: in seventies and eighties movies, so everyone knows him as
Speaker 1: like the comically tan rich guy in a yachting jacket.
Speaker 1: But to see like, oh, the young comically tan but
Speaker 1: also people tanning for the first time, like some who
Speaker 1: says like I'd I'd rather go hungry than come back
Speaker 1: home with an uneven tan. Oh yeah that's um. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I love Paul Apprentice in this. She's very relatable. Paul
Speaker 1: Apprentice is in The Stepford Wives. She's such a like
Speaker 1: seventies woman and already in this Yeah. Yeah, that's why
Speaker 1: it's crazy to see her in there, because you're like
Speaker 1: you are from the future and like it'll get there,
Speaker 1: but you're trapped in these sixties pants right now. Really
Speaker 1: great pants, really great pants. She's like the one who
Speaker 1: Yeah she's the one with the baby making quote, but
Speaker 1: she's like the second part of that is like, like
Speaker 1: I want to be a walking, talking baby making factory
Speaker 1: with the Union Labor. It's kind of my head kind
Speaker 1: of exploded after that. Yeah, she's fantastic, Like I mean,
Speaker 1: but everybody feels like pretty modern in this movie, Like
Speaker 1: I think that Dolores Hart is I mean, she's just
Speaker 1: so I think she's like shutting. Let's talk about Dolora's Hart. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So she plays Merritt, who's the main character basically the
Speaker 1: sort of every girl who, yeah, is like very well written.
Speaker 1: The idea that she's like smart but gets bad grades
Speaker 1: and is distracted by boys, like it all feels very
Speaker 1: three to men. All these characters feel really three to mention.
Speaker 1: She was in King Creole with Elvis and she was
Speaker 1: the first girl to kiss Elvis on screen, which made
Speaker 1: me realize that the girl in cry Baby looks just
Speaker 1: like her John Waters movie. That's like a tribute to
Speaker 1: Elvis movies. Um, because she's such like the perfect corollary
Speaker 1: for Elvis and just like a fifties and sixties percent.
Speaker 1: She was often compared to Grace Kelly, and her parents
Speaker 1: were both actors, and then she retired from acting almost
Speaker 1: immediately after this movie. She made a movie called St.
Speaker 1: Francis where she played St. Francis, a St Francis, a
Speaker 1: lady s um and then she became a nun. She
Speaker 1: dropped out to be in and she's still alive and
Speaker 1: still a nun, I believe. Wow. Yeah, she's still alive.
Speaker 1: She's born in thirty eight, so yeah, she's good for her. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she was a child actor. Basically her parents were both
Speaker 1: really hot contract players. Her dad was apparently a Clark
Speaker 1: Gable type and her mom was also an actress, and
Speaker 1: they lived in Beverly Hills, so she apparently grew up
Speaker 1: like around Hollywood people. And also then when her parents divorced,
Speaker 1: her grandfather was a movie projectionist, and she would like
Speaker 1: process the trauma of her parents divorced by like watching
Speaker 1: movies with him, So she had kind of had a
Speaker 1: full career. By the time she dropped out, she had
Speaker 1: been in Hollywood like since she was a baby. Essentially,
Speaker 1: she was like an extra um in this movie Forever Amber,
Speaker 1: or her dad wasn't Forever Amber, which was another best
Speaker 1: selling sexy novel that turned into a less sexy movie Forever.
Speaker 1: Have you guys ever read Forever Amber? Oh, it's so bad,
Speaker 1: but it's interesting. It's very nightcall. It was like a
Speaker 1: fake historical novel that was just like an orphaned poor
Speaker 1: girl sleeps her way up through the ranks of British
Speaker 1: society and eventually becomes like the Queens, the King's Mistress,
Speaker 1: the go But it was like one of those books
Speaker 1: that it's like pseudo who storical, but everybody was just
Speaker 1: reading it the dirty parts. So there are actually a
Speaker 1: few movies that Dolores Heart did after Um where the
Speaker 1: Boys are her last film. I feel like we need
Speaker 1: to watch with a three British comedy called Come Fly
Speaker 1: with Me about air hostesses. Seen that it looks like
Speaker 1: pan Out the show but actually in the contemporary period. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we should watch that this movie had spawned more Girls
Speaker 1: Go on a Trip movie because it really had to
Speaker 1: wait until Girls Trip for there to be another one,
Speaker 1: and there's still haven't been really any since Girls Trip,
Speaker 1: which was a big hit. It's like, even though these
Speaker 1: movies are big hits, they don't make a million of them,
Speaker 1: even though they said we have to wait for like
Speaker 1: harmony current acting, like the Sex and the City movies
Speaker 1: never happened. At the Sex happened whatever, They're not canon. No,
Speaker 1: I just want to point out that it's so cool
Speaker 1: that Vette and You was in the time Machine. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, I love the time. Do you guys like
Speaker 1: the time of nineteen sixty? Of course? And we should
Speaker 1: also will probably cover that on a movie podcast for
Speaker 1: our Patreona. That movie also is so weird and it's
Speaker 1: hard to pinpoint why, but it's because it's nineteen sixty
Speaker 1: and in the Victorian age where you're like, this is
Speaker 1: the Victor. It's like it's about you're going to figure
Speaker 1: it out and get in the time machine. Wait, so
Speaker 1: you made Molly a really interesting um. Carmela Soprano, Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I was just excited because Connie Francis is Libya Soprano's
Speaker 1: favorite recording artists of all time. And then Dolores Heart
Speaker 1: was also related to Mario a Loonza, who's Liviya Soprano's
Speaker 1: other favorite recording artists. You think that's on a purpose
Speaker 1: because they're Italian. No, But I mean, do you think
Speaker 1: someone watched Where the Boys Are and just joinked it
Speaker 1: all and like plopped it into living I think that
Speaker 1: Italian Americans of Libya's generation just were like excited to
Speaker 1: see any Italian American representation. That's also why they love
Speaker 1: Annette Funicello. Do you guys like the Beach Part any movies?
Speaker 1: It's fine, I fucking love those videos. I love them
Speaker 1: because it's like it's like this movie but even more,
Speaker 1: you know, without any sort of bitter sweetness to it.
Speaker 1: It's just like if you want to just like feel
Speaker 1: good and watch a movie that's like enjoyable to watch,
Speaker 1: kind of stupid, it's but they're good. Like I love them,
Speaker 1: I really do. And it is like that weird de
Speaker 1: sexualized teenagers in bathing suits. It's like, look, we can
Speaker 1: show people in bathing suits for the first time ever.
Speaker 1: Everything's really horny, but no one has sex. But Where
Speaker 1: the Boys Are people do have sex, and sometimes with
Speaker 1: much sex, but too much that Mimia dropped out of Hollywood.
Speaker 1: Also in the nineties because she said that the roles
Speaker 1: were too bad. She said that the quality of roles
Speaker 1: for women was there either sex objects or vanilla pudding.
Speaker 1: I thought it was a good quote. But she's in
Speaker 1: this movie be the black Hole. That is like a
Speaker 1: Disney sci fi movie. I've never seen that people love.
Speaker 1: That was like the movie that they made after Star
Speaker 1: Wars came out and Disney was like, we should have
Speaker 1: our Star Wars. And then fast forward forty years they
Speaker 1: just bought Star Wars. And she says that she always
Speaker 1: got cast as like a wounded sensitive person. M hm,
Speaker 1: that makes sense. Well, she has a very delicate voice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she has like a voice that's made for like being
Speaker 1: on the phone and crying because it's so the time
Speaker 1: machine is um. I So I watched this movie this
Speaker 1: morning with my husband UM and we were talking kind
Speaker 1: of at the end. He was like, so after Melanie
Speaker 1: Vett Mimmu's character is raped and cast to go to
Speaker 1: the hospital, and then you know, after she crosses traffic
Speaker 1: almost dies and then they're like, spring break is over.
Speaker 1: Bring Break is over, but merit and um George George
Speaker 1: Hamilton writer stay behind in order to wait until she's
Speaker 1: out at the hospital and drive her home. And my
Speaker 1: husband was like, what do you think happens then? And
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, interesting, what does happen then? Because
Speaker 1: he was like, we have the opportunity to write and
Speaker 1: this on this podcast we often pitch our ideas. So
Speaker 1: here's mine. The guy who um did uh evet wrong
Speaker 1: in this movie? His name is Diltil. She was she
Speaker 1: thought she was in love with Franklin. Franklin pawned her
Speaker 1: off on his evil friend Dil, also from Yale. So
Speaker 1: what if we do a sequel to where the boys
Speaker 1: are and it's George Hamilton's driving around Merritt and Melanie
Speaker 1: to find Dill and we call it killed Dil right,
Speaker 1: and they get Dil and torture him and bury him
Speaker 1: in the sand and drive away back to Massachusetts. Or
Speaker 1: I think what this movie doesn't get into the spring
Speaker 1: Breakers does. It's like, well, the flip side of like
Speaker 1: female horny nous is like female rage uh And nobody
Speaker 1: gets to be like Regie in this movie at all.
Speaker 1: It's all just like directed back in. But Spring spring
Speaker 1: Breakers is good. It's because it's like, now you get
Speaker 1: to torture James Franco. Well, and there's this whole there's
Speaker 1: this dynamic that is announced by the voiceover at the
Speaker 1: beginning of the film, which I like laughed out loud
Speaker 1: at because it was so like putting the onus of
Speaker 1: responsibility of for all of this stuff on the women
Speaker 1: because they're like the boys go to soak up the sun,
Speaker 1: and the girls go because it's where the boys are.
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, nobody is looking like at girls at all.
Speaker 1: Their voiceover guy is the guy who does the haunted
Speaker 1: mansion voice No, way that makes sense. Yeah, there should
Speaker 1: just be like a little a little mid summering of
Speaker 1: dial at the end, right as a treat we deserve it.
Speaker 1: I'm surprised there wasn't a sequel to this. No, there
Speaker 1: was a remake in the eighties, and the eighties remake
Speaker 1: has like tits and drugs, but it is does not
Speaker 1: have the rape plot line. So it feels like way
Speaker 1: less modern in a weird way than the nineteen six version. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because it's way more just like everything works out great. Well,
Speaker 1: I can't tell which is more modern to do though,
Speaker 1: is like to be like you will get raped if
Speaker 1: you sleep around too much? And in spring Break or
Speaker 1: to just be like, no, it never happens. It's like
Speaker 1: like I think they just think. Anytime I see a
Speaker 1: movie from that time period, like really pre Women's liberation
Speaker 1: time period, where they talk about rape at all, it
Speaker 1: feels so jarring because the rest of movies from that
Speaker 1: time or like, don't think about it, this doesn't happen.
Speaker 1: So when there's like a movie from that time period
Speaker 1: that hints at like the darkness of the actual time
Speaker 1: rather than how you think of it if you have
Speaker 1: seen only movies, Yeah, it just feels real. Although I
Speaker 1: was going to say because I was thinking when this
Speaker 1: happened in the film, I was like, oh, it's really
Speaker 1: interesting also to have these like white, good looking like
Speaker 1: like ivy boys be predators. They weren't even Yale's. That's
Speaker 1: the twist. Didn't know, no, no, no, no, they weren't.
Speaker 1: Because that's that's the thing, Like when she's in the hospital,
Speaker 1: best like they weren't even. The worst part is they
Speaker 1: weren't even Yale's. And then that's when Merritt breaks down
Speaker 1: crying like that's the worst part. If you got if
Speaker 1: you got raped by a yalely well, I think that's cool,
Speaker 1: but I think it still says that like people like
Speaker 1: good looking white guys who present is very privileged. You know.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's still there, like they had to take you.
Speaker 1: That's crazy, the fact that it's that instead of being
Speaker 1: like and then a janitor wandered it, like a lower
Speaker 1: class person came in. It's still like hey, like these
Speaker 1: guys are creeps. And that also just feels very like supermodern. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and like oh and we're going to get like so
Speaker 1: many more decades of this. Well also because so tuggle
Speaker 1: Paul Apprentice's character when they first meet TV, he's like
Speaker 1: hitchhiking and and it's strange and they're just like getting
Speaker 1: They asked him his shoes, eyes, and he's like thirteen,
Speaker 1: and they're like hop on it. Yeah. And then and
Speaker 1: then Paul Apprentice won't have sex with him, so he
Speaker 1: ends up falling in love with a woman named Lola Fandango,
Speaker 1: which just made me think the Toast of London, which
Speaker 1: I already do all the time because we're sitting here
Speaker 1: with headphones on in a microphone and I keep thinking
Speaker 1: like I see, but it's so I mean the fact
Speaker 1: that you know, because he asked her if she's a
Speaker 1: good oh my god. The actress who plays her as
Speaker 1: this actress who always plays sort of Brooklyn e Audrey
Speaker 1: from Yeah. But it's it is funny. It's that plot
Speaker 1: of like, well, like this girl isn't going to do
Speaker 1: it with you, so like find the older woman down
Speaker 1: because my life hasn't been all beer and roses. But
Speaker 1: it is also like they've only got two weeks or
Speaker 1: one week or whatever it is to to get it in.
Speaker 1: So it is sort of like the girls that are
Speaker 1: going into it being like this is going to end
Speaker 1: in marriage are like also crazy. Yeah. Also TV's whole
Speaker 1: weird backstory where he was like, I saw a woman
Speaker 1: had like written to the paper that she was very
Speaker 1: rich and had been divorced four times. So I asked
Speaker 1: her for a bunch of money and then she sent
Speaker 1: me dollars. I used to Yeah. Well, he and the
Speaker 1: jazz musician are both beat next for some reason, which
Speaker 1: is great, um dialectic dialectic jazz, right, like they were
Speaker 1: trying to get on the wave of West Coast jazz
Speaker 1: being popular. Anything that takes an aim at youth culture
Speaker 1: from an adult perspective, Like the ways they get things
Speaker 1: wrong are always perfect. But I do just think like
Speaker 1: spring Breakers, all the performances from the actresses in this
Speaker 1: feel sort of naturalistic in a way that just makes
Speaker 1: it feel like a semi naturalistic even though it is
Speaker 1: broad and a broad sex comedy. It's like also a
Speaker 1: coming of age movie. And you can tell that the
Speaker 1: guy who wrote it probably thought it was like a
Speaker 1: you know, important coming of age novel when he called
Speaker 1: it an Holy Spring, and then like made peace with
Speaker 1: what it really was when it became Where the Boys Are.
Speaker 1: But you know, sixties comedies get so broad like shortly
Speaker 1: after this um and this really feels like there's just
Speaker 1: something about it that's timeless. It's great. Did you guys
Speaker 1: ever read The Group by Mary McCarthy a long long time?
Speaker 1: That's another one we should consider doing. From the book
Speaker 1: Club that came out in sixty three, But it was
Speaker 1: about the thirties and it was Mary McCarthy talking about
Speaker 1: her friend, her and her friends from Vassar sort of
Speaker 1: being like the first class graduating class of women's libbers.
Speaker 1: So it's all about having sex and using birth control
Speaker 1: during the thirties. UM. And it also feels really modern
Speaker 1: because it's like it starts with this girl I think
Speaker 1: it's like she gets an abortion because she, like you,
Speaker 1: just somebody writing about what it's like to get an
Speaker 1: abortion in the thirties in the early sixties still feels
Speaker 1: unfortunately relevant. But just yeah, just the idea that, like
Speaker 1: young people were always having sex, maybe they weren't always
Speaker 1: talking about it. And then after Where the Boys Are
Speaker 1: is the beginning of like adults marketing the idea of
Speaker 1: young people having sex to sell things to adults. Um,
Speaker 1: and like just sex comedies as a genre, the greatest
Speaker 1: of all genres. I shouldn't have a sex comedy. Oh,
Speaker 1: definitely into that, but yeah, I mean, like dave it
Speaker 1: for August when we're all using our minds, like it's interesting.
Speaker 1: I think that there's a road that leads from this
Speaker 1: to Porky's totally bring Us to Kim and uh yeah,
Speaker 1: some more movies about horny girls going on stom breaks. Yes,
Speaker 1: I also I am very interested. There's a bunch of movies.
Speaker 1: Then there are four films after this. I think that
Speaker 1: Paul Apprentice and Jim Hutton who plays TV did together,
Speaker 1: which I think is adorable. I want to say, I
Speaker 1: know they were just so popular in this movie together together,
Speaker 1: they're so cute though, like I love it. I want
Speaker 1: to see all these movies now. So and there's a
Speaker 1: bunch of sort of movies in this universe because this
Speaker 1: was like even though there wasn't an official sequel, there's
Speaker 1: a movie called like Palm Springs Weekend. There's all these movies.
Speaker 1: There's like a ski resort one just like if I
Speaker 1: want to go to my mental spring break, this is
Speaker 1: what I will watch. Beach party movies. Well that was
Speaker 1: where the Boys are. You can check it out. It
Speaker 1: is I watched on iTunes YouTube three dollars. There you go,
Speaker 1: so it is streamable. We highly recommend it um and
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