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Speaker 1: What's up and welcome. This is the Rogue Recap and

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Speaker 1: you are here with your host, Linda McLaughlin. She is pissed, off, outraged,

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Speaker 1: and has zero patience with what seems to be an

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Speaker 1: epidemic of entitlement and stupidity. Here we talk about all

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Speaker 1: the things the other shows just don't or won't touch.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Rogue Recap, everybody. It is Tuesday, January thirteenth,

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Speaker 2: and today was the day that the Supreme Court of

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Speaker 2: the United States got to talk about how you're a

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Speaker 2: boy or a girl. Yes, that is a full and

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Speaker 2: complete sentence. I am not confused, I am not stuttering.

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Speaker 2: The highest court in the land is hearing testimony from

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Speaker 2: people who practice law for their living. This is how

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Speaker 2: they pay their mortgage on defining the difference between men

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Speaker 2: and women. Because grown ups on the left are now

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Speaker 2: realizing that this mental illness called trans and people now

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Speaker 2: that believe that they are the gender that they were

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Speaker 2: quote unquote wait for it, assigned at birth. I'm like assigned.

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Speaker 2: Today we had a trans athlete who went up against

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Speaker 2: the state and it's happening in several states. So there

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Speaker 2: were two cases that were heard today. One was the

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Speaker 2: state of West Virginia versus this person who goes by

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Speaker 2: Becky Pepper, this is a boy pretending to be a girl.

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Speaker 2: And then there is the Idaho case which is little

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Speaker 2: versus he Cocks. So I think the larger concept here

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Speaker 2: that we are trying to cover in this show is

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Speaker 2: that we as a society need to stop allowing the

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Speaker 2: mutilation and the pervasive and sick and twisted ideology of

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Speaker 2: messing with kids' heads when they are at their youngest

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Speaker 2: and most vulnerable stages of life. They don't need to

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Speaker 2: be confused and told you know, somebody messed up when

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Speaker 2: they made you, and you weren't supposed to be a boy,

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Speaker 2: You're supposed to be a girl. So here, we're going

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Speaker 2: to give you experimental transition drugs. We're going to give

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Speaker 2: you surgeries, and we're going to turn your dick into

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Speaker 2: a vagina. We're going to turn your vagina into a dick.

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Speaker 2: We're going to cut your breasts off. And by the way,

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Speaker 2: as we do this, it is completely irreversible. We can't

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Speaker 2: fix it once we do it. So let's just say

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Speaker 2: if you do this when you're oh, I don't know,

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Speaker 2: nine to ten, because your parents have decided that they

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Speaker 2: are going to bask in the glory of having a

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Speaker 2: child that instead of excelling in school or being a

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Speaker 2: great athlete or a wonderful poet or an amazing musician

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Speaker 2: or a terrific artist, you're going to be trans and

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Speaker 2: you're going to stick out, and you're going to need

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Speaker 2: to ask for specialness and special that every single day

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Speaker 2: of your life for the rest of your life. And

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Speaker 2: your parents, for some reason, love the idea of a

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Speaker 2: lifetime of martyrdom, so they're going to enjoy every minute

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Speaker 2: of it at your expense. That's exactly what's happening. And

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Speaker 2: so there are entire groups of kids who were let

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Speaker 2: But there were entire institutions like I don't know school

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Speaker 2: that told them, know, your parents are wrong, they don't

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Speaker 2: understand you. So we feel that you should come with

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Speaker 2: us and will help you find out who the real

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Speaker 2: you is. Let's just, as a high level for a moment,

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Speaker 2: talk about the fact that nobody knows who the hell

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Speaker 2: those things are sort of, you know, those low lofty ideas,

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Speaker 2: It's a cult. It's be exactly like us. Be different

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Speaker 2: You're going to feel depressed, You're going to feel things

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Speaker 2: that this is child abuse. That this is an entire

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Speaker 2: I look at this person's mom as they're doing these

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Speaker 2: she should be able to play and wants to, you know,

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Speaker 2: except you're a boy. It's I don't care how many

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Speaker 2: many dresses you buy. You are a boy. Your mother

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Speaker 2: unfortunately spending valuable time of our Supreme Court talking about

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Speaker 2: the fact that you want to be a girl, but

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Speaker 2: have been a very feminine boy, maybe you would have

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Speaker 2: been a gay boy, but you're not a girl. And

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Speaker 2: no amount of drugs and operations and dresses and makeup

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Speaker 2: the way that you compete. So how is that fair

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Speaker 2: Do you know why? Because there's small shoulders, and they're

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Speaker 2: But for some reason, this argument never gets brought up.

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Speaker 2: these men who are competing against biological women. And yes,

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Speaker 2: biology is a real thing. And although Supreme Court Justice

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Speaker 2: Katanji Jackson Brown seems to be completely and utterly confused,

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Speaker 2: and we're going to play a clip from her in

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Speaker 2: a minute, there is a real thing. It's called being

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Speaker 2: born as a boy or a girl. It's not oh, well,

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Speaker 2: this is what I am now. No, you are what

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Speaker 2: and the rest of us do not have to become

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Speaker 2: that this kid, pepper Jackson, I mean, what the hell

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Speaker 2: It's embarrassing and at pepper Jackson. I think it's something

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Speaker 2: It's important to me and it's important to other people.

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Speaker 2: So I'm here for it.

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Speaker 2: Are you here for it? Because you know what? You

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Speaker 2: turned him into a chick. And that's a really, really

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Speaker 2: sad thing. It's a really sad thing. This gender affirming

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Speaker 2: You will have problems because that whole idea of I

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Speaker 2: feel like I'm living in somebody else's body. Now you actually?

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Speaker 2: Actually are? I have a feeling that someday, not too

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Speaker 2: Was it in the water, was it in the COVID shots?

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Speaker 2: Was it in the air? What is wrong with these people?

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Speaker 2: Because not only are they giving the kids SSRIs and

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Speaker 2: this Pepper Jacks, I mean, they've been doing this to

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Speaker 2: me as a mother who has four kids, and if

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Speaker 2: It is so wrong, it is so shortsighted, and it

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Speaker 2: is so egotistical and self centered. These people when everything

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Speaker 2: trans people and trans people's supporters, start your own leagues.

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Speaker 2: Please have at it. Create your own leagues and do

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Speaker 2: your own stuff. And I think that would be great.

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Speaker 2: And you guys can all compete against each other and

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Speaker 2: talk about how cool it was when you used to be.

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Speaker 2: You know, the way you were when you were born,

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Speaker 2: go for it. I think that the point that they made.

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Speaker 2: You know, the ag from West Virginia made this quote.

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Speaker 2: He said, there are immutable physical and biological characteristic differences

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Speaker 2: between men and women that make men bigger, stronger, and

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Speaker 2: faster than women. If we allow biological males to play

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Speaker 2: sports against biological females, those differences erode the ability and

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Speaker 2: the places for women in these sports, which we have

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Speaker 2: one hundred percent right. That's the problem. Everything he just

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Speaker 2: said is true. So now this little dude who decides

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Speaker 2: giving him puberty blockers when he's in the third grade,

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Speaker 2: I mean that is child abuse. You're in rural West Virginia.

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Speaker 2: If you are that bored, find a hobby, take up knitting.

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Speaker 2: What is wrong with you to do this to your child.

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Speaker 2: So today, now that I'm done with that Brant, today

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Speaker 5: Yes, your honor, If it does that, then is it

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Speaker 5: Well, how can a court determine whether there's a discrimination

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Speaker 7: We basically know that the that they've identified, pursue into

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Speaker 2: We're what are you saying. You're calling a dude Lindsay,

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Speaker 2: Lindsay is Larry. Stop. The reason that Larry cannot play

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Speaker 8: You have the overarching classification, you know, everybody has to

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Speaker 2: And what in the hell girl assigned at birth? Have

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Speaker 2: Katanji Jackson Brown. How about the young women that have

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Speaker 2: what And then this guy, the Solicitor General who's arguing

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Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, we get it. All You guys want exceptions,

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