1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: It's Erica, and we are back with another off season episode. Y'all, 2 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: I miss you, but I'm really really digging our tribe 3 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: over on Patreon and us releasing new episodes over there, 4 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 1: So if you miss our weekly episodes, make sure you 5 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 1: hit the link in this episode to subscribe to Patreon 6 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 1: and get these off season episodes. So right now, I'm 7 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 1: about to give you a little taste of an episode 8 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: that we just posted on Patreon. It's featuring Shanisha Boswell, 9 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:34,879 Speaker 1: the founder of Black Mom's Blog. She's also an author 10 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:38,480 Speaker 1: of Osis You're Pregnant and has a new book out 11 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: called The Girl's Guide to Puberty. She's also the founder 12 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:46,959 Speaker 1: of the Self Care Retreat and just an overall incredible 13 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: mother woman entrepreneur and as a big inspiration for us. 14 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: On this episode, we go in, y'all. We're talking about 15 00:00:54,960 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: conspiracy theories and population control, the anti woman, anti man 16 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: narrative and how that's affecting how many babies are being born. 17 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: We also dive into this concept of does anybody in 18 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: this motherfucker have original thoughts because it's unclear. We also 19 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: talk about Shannish's move to Columbia with her daughter and 20 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: just reimagining her life outside of the United States. So 21 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: enjoy this teaser with Shnisha Boswell and make sure you 22 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 1: click the link in this episode description to listen to 23 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: the full episode and watch the full episode on Patreon Enjoy. 24 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: I think the duality is important. I think leading heavier 25 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 1: and the feminine is ideal, but that we have the 26 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: masculine for a reason, so. 27 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 2: Balance maybe, babe. 28 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 3: I was just talking to Orlando about this last night, 29 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 3: about like men also leaning into their femininity, but like 30 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 3: it being so necessary because if a man can lead 31 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 3: in softness, it disarms the woman, you know what I mean. 32 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 3: But it's like women do to men to lead. But 33 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 3: I'm going to trust a man that I see being 34 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 3: soft with me and nurturing with me, and then it's 35 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 3: going to make me disarm and be the same way 36 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 3: with him. But if a man is on some function, 37 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 3: I'm going to be on some function times ten. And 38 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 3: so I realized it's like it's really the balance of 39 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 3: both so that you can tap into either well when necessary. 40 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 3: And like even for Orlando, he's like he's disarmed me 41 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 3: a lot when I'm like we're arguing and he touches me, 42 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 3: or he kisses me or he's like girl, you know 43 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 3: what I mean. 44 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 2: But it makes me, It softened me. 45 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 3: So when we do argue, I know I can bring 46 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 3: this same energy because he's led in that way, and 47 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 3: I just think it's necessary. I think we think of 48 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 3: like masculinity and femininity as these two polar opposites, but 49 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 3: we have to exist in both in order to be 50 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 3: like balanced in life. 51 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 4: Yeah. I was talking to a friend about that today, 52 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 4: about the submission, and it's always this conversation around women 53 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 4: submitting to men, but men not understanding that also have 54 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 4: to submit to their women, and it creates this beautiful cycle. Right, 55 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 4: So me submitting to you and you submitting to me, 56 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 4: is you bringing in that softness to say, let me 57 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 4: just kids, I'm not about to argue with you right now, right, 58 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 4: I'm gonna give you some love because I know that's 59 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 4: what you mean. It's not about the last word or 60 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 4: who has to be right, it's just submission is the comfort, 61 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 4: it's the vulnerability. And so yeah, yeah, but I mean 62 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:26,839 Speaker 4: I think when masculinity femininity, after this conversation with us 63 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 4: has been so drawn out in such a way to 64 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 4: where they've almost kind of become like trending words, you 65 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 4: know what I mean, Like everyone's using this hot topic 66 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 4: word but not really understanding how to apply the concept, 67 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 4: whether it be in work or whether it be in. 68 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 5: Love or parenting or self and it's just tricky. It's tricky. 69 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 4: So I don't know that's a targeted conversation. 70 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 3: I know it's so annoying. I'm so sick of hearing 71 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,839 Speaker 3: the black love wars online. I'm like, I we love 72 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 3: each other, we need to mend the relationship. 73 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 5: I just feel like it. 74 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 4: I'm a conspiracy theorist with all of that. I think 75 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 4: it's all population control. And one of my favorite movies 76 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 4: is Inception, and Inception talks about how when you want 77 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 4: something to happen, you have to make the person feel 78 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 4: like it's their original idea, right, because if someone tells 79 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 4: you not to do this, you're not going to do it. 80 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 4: And so the whole you know, media is pushed in 81 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 4: a way that they want people to view it, whether 82 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,119 Speaker 4: it's popular or not. And when it's pushed that way, 83 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:33,359 Speaker 4: they push certain agendas. And in the last few years 84 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 4: there has been a rise of the anti woman, anti 85 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 4: men conversations, and when you really think about it, you're 86 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 4: starting to see a lot of men who like women 87 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 4: sexually but don't like them emotionally, and vice versa, a 88 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 4: lot of women who like men for their money and 89 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 4: their things, but they can't stand niggas, like they can't 90 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 4: stand them. 91 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 5: Can I say niggas? 92 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 2: You can? 93 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 4: Oh? 94 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 5: Okay, I was just making sure. 95 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 4: I was like, can I say that? 96 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 97 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:05,359 Speaker 6: So so when you think of that, ultimately you end 98 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 6: up with two genders of people who are like, I 99 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 6: don't like you. 100 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 5: I don't like you. 101 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 4: I rather do this by myself, and there's no resolution 102 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 4: being had. And in twenty thirty years, people are having 103 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 4: kids no more because moment are like, I'm not about 104 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 4: to keep having kids with y'all, and men aren't. You know, 105 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 4: it's just a thing. So that's a whole other conversation. 106 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 4: I can go into that all day if I swear bad, baby. 107 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 3: I don't have to call you after this, because you know, 108 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 3: I love a conspiracy theory and I'm with you. 109 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 2: I do think there's a tactic to you. 110 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 4: Know, just so now people are like, they're using That's 111 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 4: what I mean by like, when I hear like trending 112 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 4: words and trending conversations, you're you're thinking it's your own idea. 113 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 4: You're thinking you're coming to this by yourself, but you're 114 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 4: also putting this in your brain every single day from 115 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 4: social media. 116 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:50,479 Speaker 5: Over indulgence, radio music. And then you wake up and 117 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 5: you're like, I feel this way. You don't feel like that. 118 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 5: They just told you it was okay to feel. 119 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,359 Speaker 4: Like that today and now you're here, And that in 120 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 4: itself is the definition of inception. 121 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, we see the influx of hate of women. 122 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 3: I feel it like of baby mamas, of women, of mothers. 123 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 3: I'm like Kevin Samuels and the answertates, yeah it's crazy, Yeah, 124 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 3: it's crazy. 125 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 1: And then the algorithm pushing certain narratives that about women 126 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 1: and just like the things that people are clicking on. 127 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 1: And then there are certain women that are like totally 128 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 1: fucking everything up that are getting a lot of attention. 129 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 2: Can think of one in particular. I mean, but but 130 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 2: people are saying that about us. 131 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 4: But twenty twenty four is a year of no silent shade. 132 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 4: We are not subt no silent look you to me, 133 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 4: I know what, in particular, it's not even mofu. 134 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: It's just that this person in particular and just needs 135 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 1: a lot of healing. And she's highly intelligent, but she 136 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: just enjoys getting disrespected by men for some reason. 137 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 2: And I don't know if she's highly intelligent. 138 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 4: Maybe you know what, I don't know that she said that, Tomla, 139 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 4: hold on in the in the spirit of accountability, can 140 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 4: we you know I'm gonna get in trouble. Let me 141 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 4: be quiet, call me off your podcast, y'all. I know, okay, 142 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 4: So let me let me say this. 143 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 5: Let me say this. 144 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 4: I think in the spirit of accountability with women, we 145 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 4: have to stop asserting that everything is queen behavior, everything 146 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 4: is God's behavior, everything is this, everything is that, when. 147 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 5: In reality, everything isn't you. 148 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 4: Know what I'm saying. And so we have a hard 149 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 4: time saying that sometimes because we don't want to judge. 150 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 4: We don't want to, but that leaves no room for growth. 151 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 4: It leaves no room. Like like you said, if you 152 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 4: know the girl who's busting it open all the time 153 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 4: because she got child with trauma and someone's like, let 154 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 4: her be free, and you're like, actually, no, this doesn't work, 155 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 4: and this. 156 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 5: Is why how do we get there? How do we 157 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 5: how do we help figure that out? 158 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 4: Because a person can be sexually liberated and it can 159 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 4: come out of a place of. 160 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 5: Like I love I love fucking that's what I do. 161 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 4: And then the other side is I'm actually really jacked 162 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 4: up on the inside and no one's correcting my behavior. 163 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 5: No one said me aside to say, maybe. 164 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 4: This is why you got daddy issues, you got mama issues. 165 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 5: How do we fix that? And then we got a solution. 166 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: It makes me think of this podcast I did recently 167 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: where this man asked me, ask me my perspective on 168 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: my brand potentially being an irresponsible liberation? Oh no, was 169 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: that was a liberation? 170 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 3: It was a irresponsive liberation or negative No, no, irresponsible liberation. 171 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 2: Leading like some irresponsible liberation. 172 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: And and for me, I was like, yes, that does exist. 173 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 1: I guess to me, those two words are like oil 174 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: and water, like how can you how can you be radical? 175 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: And then was irresponsible radicalness? Okay, how can you be 176 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 1: a radical person that's pushing pushing like, uh, people forward 177 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 1: or your people forward, your message forward and be and 178 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: be responsible in the eyes of the public, Like I 179 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: don't think any move movement, well it's been considered responsible. 180 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 2: Well the systems that be Yeah, you know what I mean? 181 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: Like as it pertains to me at us because I 182 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: think we've been very honest about our mistakes. We've been 183 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 1: really open about our healing, We've been open about our processes. 184 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 1: It's not like we're just out here to like busting 185 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 1: it open and not going to. 186 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 2: Therapy, you know, like I can go. 187 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: There's a balance that has to exist, and I think 188 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 1: for the women that are lost that are just liberation 189 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 1: sexually liberation forward and not really checking the boxes as 190 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:38,319 Speaker 1: to why it is I feel like I need to 191 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,559 Speaker 1: present myself this way or why it is that this 192 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 1: is this me? 193 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 2: Or is this for attention? 194 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 1: Or is this trauma or is this you know, like 195 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: not really checking to make sure like this is actually 196 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: who I am, and this is where I feel the healthiest. 197 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: This is where I feel like my highest self. This 198 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 1: is where I feel the most respected. And I'm okay 199 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: if people don't understand that, Like I think that people 200 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: do things for cli, people do things for attention, and 201 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 1: and then and then and then because of that, everyone 202 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 1: that participates in this liberation of women gets categorized into 203 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:18,079 Speaker 1: one space of being irresponsible or hoes or whorees or 204 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: whatever it is, you know. 205 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 3: I think that's I think that's I think that is 206 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 3: a matter of the the person taking in the message, right. 207 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: So like. 208 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 2: A man asks you that question, right, the message isn't 209 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 2: for him, the message isn't for him, right. So it's 210 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 2: easy to. 211 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 3: And I always say this, as men, the patriarchy has 212 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 3: been set up that you benefit from the you know, 213 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 3: you benefit from women being suppressed in many ways. And 214 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 3: so if I am a man who's benefiting from the patriarchy, 215 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 3: and I see someone who is maybe uh not healed 216 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 3: from trauma and acting out in a way that's cloaked 217 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 3: in liberation, and then I see us, it's easy to 218 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 3: be like, oh, yeah, it's all the same shit. They 219 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 3: just you know, some hose you know, calling whnus freedom. 220 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 3: But if I'm an intellectual individual and I'm going to 221 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 3: actually dissect and listen to the message, I'm going to 222 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 3: be able to differentiate these groups of women or people 223 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 3: very easily. But if you're so gung ho about blanket 224 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 3: statement and generalizing a whole group of women because it 225 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 3: benefits you to be like they're all hoes and you 226 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 3: don't have to actually listen and you know, really take 227 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 3: in what we're saying, then it's of course you're going 228 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:39,719 Speaker 3: to say that it's easy to say that, so I 229 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 3: think it's just really it's like the level of maturity 230 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 3: and emotional intelligence of the person receiving the message, and 231 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 3: that's why it's so disrespectful to me. Like even in 232 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:52,439 Speaker 3: our experienced dating guys or just you know, we don't 233 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 3: get a lot of disrespect from the internet that often, 234 00:11:55,200 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 3: but just personally, I've had experiences and I'm like. 235 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 2: Whoa, what do you think of me? Who do you 236 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 2: think that I am? 237 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 3: And I'm like, I know that we're maybe riskue on 238 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 3: the internet, but I don't. I feel very much as 239 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 3: a respected woman that I carry myself that way. But 240 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 3: there's also a small percentage who will take the time. 241 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 3: And we know we have men in our audience, but 242 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 3: like who actually listen? And I think that's the kind 243 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 3: of the obstacle with liberated women because as we seek 244 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 3: companion ships, there's a lot of misconceptions around what women 245 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 3: look like who run their own businesses, women who liberate women, 246 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 3: and like what like what that what that comes with? 247 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 3: What has your dating experience been being like a boss 248 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 3: ass mom? You know, like what have you what have 249 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:50,559 Speaker 3: you encountered with men? Even though I know, like your 250 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 3: brand is not as riskue as ours, you know, you know, 251 00:12:53,920 --> 00:13:00,959 Speaker 3: but like just in general, as a bossy boss mom, as. 252 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 5: A FOSSi boss mom. 253 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think that my experience with men 254 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 4: because my brain isn't risque. 255 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 5: It isn't it's not that risque. 256 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,599 Speaker 4: I get a lot of men who are uncomfortable with 257 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 4: the amount of of how I travel. That is a 258 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 4: real thing, like this concept of me being outside as 259 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 4: much as I'm outside, what are you doing when you're outside? 260 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 4: Because I think the difference is for a lot of 261 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 4: men when they travel and they go on guys trips, 262 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 4: they are going. 263 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 5: To have sex. You know, not every man, but that's 264 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 5: what they do. 265 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 4: They go on these trips, they go to sleep until 266 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 4: three pm, party all night, pick up hoss. 267 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 5: That's their trip. So when they see us as women, 268 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 5: especially in Colombia. 269 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 4: Especially in Colombia, right, I mean, come on, is the 270 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 4: land of passport, bro. And so when they think of 271 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 4: us as women doing trips, they can't believe that we're 272 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 4: actually going to sight see that were actually sitting in meditation, 273 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 4: that we're actually just resting and sleeping in It's this 274 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 4: weird concept that a woman can go outside and be responsible, 275 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 4: because it's a projection of sometimes their irresponsibility and the 276 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 4: fact that you know there are people there that aren't 277 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 4: going to do that, right, there are women out here 278 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 4: that are like, Hey, you know what, I haven't had 279 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 4: sex in two years. 280 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 5: I'm about to go to Jamaica. I'm gonna busted open, 281 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 5: and I'm gonna go home and be a virgin again. 282 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 4: I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but I think that's 283 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 4: the problem with generalizations in general. 284 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 5: Right. 285 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 4: And I have like a really women's centered platform, So 286 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 4: like even on my platform, it's women. It's like ninety 287 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 4: one percent women, like eight percent men. I did a 288 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 4: post last week and I was like, I'm single, shoot 289 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 4: your shot. 290 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 5: I got one response and it was like the. 291 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 4: And I said, and you start to question yourself because 292 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 4: I talk to women and like, this man's in my DMS, 293 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 4: this person's coming at me, this man's offering to pay 294 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 4: my rent tomorrow. Oh my god, about ugly, Like maybe 295 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 4: I'm not as cute as I thought. I was, like, 296 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 4: you started to question everything because you know, I don't 297 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 4: have a platform that there are men on like that, 298 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 4: and so but yeah, that's that's my life right now. 299 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 2: I resonate with that. 300 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: I think people always assume that, like my dms are 301 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: crazy or something and bits are dry as hell, because 302 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: a bunch of bitches follow me even on my personal page. 303 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: I begin some bitches that want to fuck but no, 304 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: thank you, and yeah and and and some of and 305 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: some of that too, I've questioned. 306 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 2: I'm like, no, so no one, I think. I think. 307 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: I think that there's also this perception that, you know, 308 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 1: powerful women or women that are leading in their space, 309 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: don't need help, don't need support, don't need certain things, 310 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: and so men don't always know how to like if 311 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: they're a man that would pay your rent or would whatever, 312 00:15:56,400 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: like spoil you in some way, You're not We're not 313 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: me and you are not the prototype. 314 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 5: No. No, I know I've. 315 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: Heard because I would really have liked my rent to 316 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: be paid a few a few times times ten hundred. 317 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 3: I think some women just have like sugar baby energy 318 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 3: and some women don't, because I've never had a sugar daddy. 319 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: Well, I have a friend who she's recently divorced, and 320 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:29,479 Speaker 1: she's back on the internets and she is getting bags, 321 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: she is getting all types of gifts, and I was. 322 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 2: Like, bitch, what the fuck are you doing over there? 323 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: And then I started looking at her stories and I 324 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: realized her tactic. She Now you know, we couldn't give 325 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: you all of it, So make sure you click the 326 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: link in this episode and check out the full episode 327 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: on Patron with Shanisha. 328 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 2: We miss you, we love you. I hope you have 329 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 2: a beautiful week and we'll see you soon.