1 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge presented by DraftKings. I'm Ryan Mink 2 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: here with Garrett Downing, and we have some breaking coaching 3 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: news this week. The Ravens brought back Chuck Pegano came 4 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: out of retirement to join the Ravens as their senior 5 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 1: secondary coach. And then also the big news about Todd 6 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: Monkin with a reported contract extension to stay in Baltimore, 7 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: which crosses him off the list as a potential head 8 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: coach elsewhere. 9 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 2: So great news on both those and we're going to. 10 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: Dive into those news topics today as well as other 11 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 1: items from the week. So, Garrett, Chuck Pegano coming out 12 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 1: of retirement to join the Ravens. Last time he was 13 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: here was twenty eleven as the Ravens defensive coordinator and 14 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: then left to become the head coach of the Indianapolis Colts. 15 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: What was your first reaction when you heard the news. 16 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 3: I was excited. Chuck with somebody who I really liked. 17 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 4: I only had one year of crossover with him when 18 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 4: he was here before going to Indy, but really liked him. 19 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 4: He was well liked by players, especially like veteran players 20 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 4: Ed Reed and Ray Lewis like he was, well. 21 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 2: Hugh was Ed's guy. I mean they go all the 22 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 2: way back to Miami. 23 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 3: Him and Ed were very tight. They were very tight. 24 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 4: And I remember that was my first year in twenty 25 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 4: eleven when he was a defensive coordinator and being kind 26 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 4: of struck at the relationship that he had with his 27 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 4: players and at the top of that list. And then 28 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 4: really smart, personable, well liked by coaches, by media, and 29 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 4: you've seen that, Like he went he went to Indianapolis 30 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 4: and he was a successful coach there, really well liked. 31 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 4: Of course, you know, dealt with the hardship of getting 32 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 4: sick and overcoming cancer and battling through that. But he 33 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 4: was somebody who really I think was well respected and 34 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 4: liked in the football community and and. 35 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 2: So within Baltimore and the larger community. 36 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: Yes, I mean he's one of he's one of the 37 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: great guys, like best people in the NFL, and in 38 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: my opinion, like I loved working with him. Little in 39 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: fact about Chuck Pagano highly superstitious. 40 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 3: Really highly I did not know this. 41 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, it's very superstitious guy, I know, but like 42 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: I which always kind of cracked me up, you know, 43 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: But yeah, like when you just talk about the good 44 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: people in the league, of which there are many. 45 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 2: He's one of them. 46 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, And so I think that, like, aside from just 47 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: like what he brings as a coach from X's no 48 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: standpoint and experience and scheme and all those things. Like, also, 49 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: just bringing good people back in the building is good. 50 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 4: I'll tell a story on that. I remember when he 51 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 4: got the job in Indianapolis. I sent him an email 52 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 4: just to say congrats and best of luck, and I'm 53 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 4: sure he was getting flooded with emails and phone calls 54 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 4: and whatever, and like I was certainly low man on 55 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 4: the tonal pole, did not owe me any response, And 56 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 4: he wrote one back and just said, you know, appreciate it, 57 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 4: enjoyed working together, and best the luck. Like that's the 58 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 4: type of thing that you're talking about. And certainly did 59 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 4: not need to do that back in twenty twelve when 60 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 4: he got that job. 61 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 3: But those are the types. 62 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 4: Of things that you remember, and I think it speaks 63 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 4: to the type of guy that Chuck is and well, 64 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 4: I'm excited to have him back in the building. 65 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 66 00:02:56,480 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: Well, and also I think just obviously his bound of 67 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: knowledge about this game, I mean, the Ravens really and 68 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: I've long said this. I think it's one of John 69 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: Harbaugh's greatest strengths is he is he knows coaching, and 70 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: he knows what makes a good coach, and he he 71 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: just does a great job in hiring. I mean, it's 72 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: it started with bring him back Dean Peace in the 73 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: midway through last season, which at the time, you know 74 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: that was kind of a whoa, all right, this is 75 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: an unconventional move. You have a first year defensive coordinator, 76 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: You're going to bring back a guy who was a 77 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 1: longtime coordinator and Dean p's what does this say? 78 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 2: How does this work? 79 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: You know, it's that can be a sensitive situation, and 80 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: credit to everybody involves Zach Dean everybody harves obviously, like 81 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: it went over really well, not only just from like 82 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: a you know, its meshed well, there were personality and 83 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: resultstright exactly. Yeah, and then the defense got better, the 84 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: secondary got better, and you know that was also in 85 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: part because of the personnel decisions that the Ravens and whatnot. 86 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 2: So you know, you go back to that and that 87 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 2: worked out well. 88 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: And now okay, let's go back to the well here, 89 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: let's bring back Chuck Pegano, who is really the architect 90 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: of some of the Ravens' best defenses. I mean that 91 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: twenty eleven defense was nasty, and you know, I like it. 92 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: It's kind of going a little bit back to Baltimore's 93 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: defensive roots and the history here and what that those 94 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 1: units are about. Like Chuck Pegano brought some of that 95 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: swag right, Like he kind of is from that Rex Ryan, 96 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: that that kind of branch, that kind of coaching tree 97 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 1: and kind of kind of brought some of that swagger. 98 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: I thought to Baltimore. 99 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's definitely a connection with the current and the old, 100 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 4: and I think that that's kind of like getting the 101 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 4: band back together. You have Chuck back here and then 102 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 4: DNPS you mentioned him he is going to stay on 103 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 4: staff more than a consultant type role. John Harbo said 104 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 4: that at the season of review press conference that he's 105 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 4: going to remain on staff. And exactly what that role 106 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 4: ends up looking like, I think time will tell, but 107 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 4: probably similar to what he did in this year, just 108 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 4: more of that consultant role. But the point you make 109 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 4: about John and hiring, I think is a good one. 110 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 4: And when you look back at recent moves and hires, 111 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 4: I think that he deserves a lot of credit for 112 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 4: some of the coaching hires that he's made. Like look 113 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 4: at offensive coordinator when he brought in Todd Mounkin. That 114 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 4: was a big change, going from Greg Roman to a 115 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 4: new offensive coordinator, and Todd had won two straight national 116 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 4: championships at Georgia. But like, there was a lot of 117 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 4: other really good candidates and people wanted the Ravens to 118 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 4: go different directions, and John felt really good about Todd 119 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 4: Munkin and felt like that would be a great fit. 120 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 4: Now flash forward two years later, and everybody, as we're 121 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 4: going to talk about it, was nervous about Todd Leavin 122 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 4: and getting a head coaching opportunity. Like that was a 123 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 4: great hire. Mike McDonald, it was a bit of an 124 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 4: I don't want to say unconventional, but he had not 125 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 4: been a coordinator in the NFL, and he gave him 126 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 4: the opportunity and he only been a one year coordinator 127 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 4: at the college level. And so then he comes back 128 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 4: and you're like, is this going to work and all that, 129 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 4: and then he ends up getting a head coaching job 130 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 4: two years later. I think Zach Orr was a great 131 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 4: hire too, and as well as DNP coming back and 132 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 4: helping out with this defensive staff. So you can go 133 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,359 Speaker 4: back through history and plenty of other examples. 134 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: Of other assistant coaches. Chuck Smith has definitely worked out. 135 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 3: Like you could go there's plenty of examples. 136 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 4: Those are the ones just in recent years that like 137 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 4: really stand out to me, especially the coordinator level. And 138 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 4: I think that I'm with you one hundred percent. I 139 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 4: think he has a really good feel for who's going 140 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 4: to be a good coach, what's going to mesh well 141 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 4: with the culture of the players and the other coaches 142 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 4: who are in place here, and the results generally speak 143 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 4: for themselves. 144 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I totally agree. 145 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: And I think just moving forward to Todd Monkin, I 146 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: think that that's that is probably the Ravens' biggest and 147 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: most consequential offseason move that they'll make all season, and 148 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: keeping him is a massive deal. 149 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. Massive. 150 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: If you had this start, I mean, you wouldn't be 151 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: starting over, but in air quotes, starting over with a 152 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: new scheme and a new coordinator, that is a huge process. 153 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: I think it's it's more difficult than making a coordinator change. 154 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 1: At defensive coordinator, there's more transition and more carryover. I 155 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 1: think on the defensive side of the ball, especially, you know, 156 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: going from Mike McDonald's Zach Orr, there's a lot of carryover. 157 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: When you bring in a new OC, it uproots everything. 158 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: And for Lamar Jackson then he has to learn a 159 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: whole new offense, just as he's really kind of a 160 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: I mean, he's been ascending throughout his career, but exactly 161 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: he's already a sendate, but like he reached new heights 162 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: this year, and to I think that if you introduce 163 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: a new offensive coordinator, you run the risk of stunting 164 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: that to a degree, right, And like now I think 165 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: year three under top Monk and Lamar has has a 166 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: very good chance of just taking another step forward and 167 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: continuing to improve as a quarterback. And I just I 168 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: think it is a massive deal, not only because of 169 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:54,679 Speaker 1: the continuity, but hey, I think Todd's just an awesome coach. 170 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: I mean all off season, they're all season long. I mean, 171 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: I mean, like when we were looking at the tape 172 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: and breaking down things for Ravens I view and for 173 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: this podcast, how many weeks were we sitting here saying, like, man, 174 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: what a great wrinkle by Todd Munkin. He schemed that perfectly, 175 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: like I mean, the Ravens had the number one offense 176 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: in the league. They had a historic offense that threw 177 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: for four thousand yards and ran for three thousand, the 178 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: first offense ever to do that. And you just kept 179 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: that guy and now you're able to kind of build 180 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: upon that. 181 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 2: I think. I think it's a massive deal. 182 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 3: We didn't really do the Dog of the Week this year. 183 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 4: We did a couple of them, but my favorite dog 184 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 4: of the week is whenever you give it Todd Munkin. 185 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 2: He's a dog up in the booth barking. 186 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 4: And we also keeping Todd Munkin here it means that 187 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 4: we're going to get some more of those great shots 188 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 4: on game days, you know, when he's high five and 189 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 4: the other coaches up in the booth and all that 190 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 4: the energy that he brings. Like so, Jeremy Fowler broke 191 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 4: the news earlier this week from ESPN that they're working 192 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 4: towards a contract. They're finalizing a contract extension between the 193 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 4: Ravens and Munkin. Of course, if he were to get 194 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 4: a head coaching opportunity next year, he could still pursue that. 195 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 4: But keep like, I think it's you spoke to this. 196 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,080 Speaker 4: I think it's twofold one. You just keep a real 197 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 4: good offensive coordinator the offense and the results are evident. 198 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 4: It was one of the best offenses the NFL has 199 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 4: ever seen this year and Lamar is likely going to 200 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 4: win his second MVP. So two years with Monkey, well sorry, 201 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 4: back to back, second in a row. Yeah, third MVP, 202 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 4: but back to back. So two years with Monk and 203 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 4: two MVPs most likely not bad. So you keep a 204 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 4: really good coordinator. And then the second part of it 205 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 4: is that you're starting further down the line because of 206 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 4: the continuity there, and the Ravens could have promoted from 207 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:30,439 Speaker 4: within who knows. I don't want to go down the 208 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 4: whole path of what they would have done if Tod 209 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:35,719 Speaker 4: Munkin would have left. But like there is a new 210 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 4: process of adjustment. That's what happens. We saw it with 211 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 4: the defense this year. Even if you're keeping the same 212 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 4: general system in place, there's an adjustment with a new 213 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 4: coordinator the way he approaches things, game plans and calls plays. Obviously, 214 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 4: the play calling is a huge element for the offensive 215 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 4: coordinator on game day, so all of that stuff would 216 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 4: has the potential to be a step back for the offense. 217 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 4: And like, how many times do we hear from Lamar 218 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 4: and the other offensive players this year in the second 219 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 4: year of Todd Monkins offense, that's going to go to 220 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 4: a new level. And then we saw it, like they 221 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 4: talked about it all offseason, all training camp, and Dan 222 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 4: John Harball at the end of the season press conference 223 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 4: is already talking about I'm excited for version three point 224 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 4: zero of the Monkin offense if we're able to keep him. 225 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 4: And so I think, like, I don't see this offense 226 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:27,719 Speaker 4: taking any step back. I see it only maintaining and 227 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 4: evolving and growing from here, Like, I don't see why 228 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 4: I would get any worse. 229 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I totally agree. 230 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: I honestly can't think of an off season that I've 231 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:43,319 Speaker 1: been so optimistic about the future, like so confident that 232 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 1: that the Ravens are going to be better next year, 233 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And I think Todd Monk 234 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 1: is a huge part of that. Really, I kind of 235 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: break it down to four things, right, keeping Todd Monkin 236 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: top of the list for me, Like I said, I 237 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: think it's the biggest offensive or offseason move that Ravens 238 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 1: will make. And then you look at the core of 239 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: this team, like we talked about previously. I don't they're 240 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,319 Speaker 1: keeping together to the core right, and it's kind of 241 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: run it back. And the most consequential free agents are 242 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 1: Ronnie Stanley and Patrick Ricard, you know, I mean, and 243 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 1: you have a chance to retain both. I think that 244 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 1: they could keep them both. You're in good salary position 245 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 1: to keep all of your guys. You don't have to 246 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: make make salary cap. You know, there's not gonna be 247 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 1: salary cap casualties. You don't have to at least, and 248 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: you can retain some of your own free agents that 249 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: you'd like to keep. You have the flexibility, and if 250 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: you don't, okay, well then you have enough salary cap 251 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: space to improve in other ways. Go out and land 252 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 1: somebody else, Go out and land a big fish at 253 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 1: safety or whatever you want to do. Right. And then third, 254 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: I think that the Ravens have a good young nucleus 255 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 1: of talent that are only going to that's only going 256 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: to get better from here on out. 257 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 2: I look at Nate Wiggins, what can he be in 258 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 2: year two? 259 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 1: Roger Rosengarten another great example, Daniel follow with a year 260 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 1: of starting under his belt. 261 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 2: You know, I mean, there's it goes on and on 262 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 2: and all. 263 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 4: You go into the guys who are now entering veterans 264 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 4: status but are already well established, and that's that's Kyle Hamilton, 265 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 4: Tyler Linderbaum going into their fourth seasons, who are eligible 266 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 4: for contract extensions, but still young players. They've played three 267 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:18,959 Speaker 4: NFL seasons. Now you're getting a VET status. But like 268 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 4: when you talk about the young core, it's it's strong, 269 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 4: and I think that those guys are are certainly they're 270 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 4: probably the pillars right think on offensive and defensive side 271 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 4: of young players of course, Lamar. 272 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I almost I don't. 273 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 1: I don't put them in this category because they're already 274 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: playing at such a high level that I don't like 275 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: when you're talking about where can the team improve, I 276 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: almost look at more guys who are played more of 277 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: a role players who not I mean, yeah, Roger Rosegarden 278 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 1: and Nate Wiggs aren't role players, but like guys who 279 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 1: have more room to grow, and so I think, you know, 280 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: even like guys like Anisa Isaac, you know, who didn't 281 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: get a lot of playing time. Like I'm I'm intrigued 282 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: to see what they bring in here too. Travis Jones 283 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:00,959 Speaker 1: still has room to grow and improve and. 284 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 2: You know all of that. 285 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:03,079 Speaker 4: I'll put Zey Flowers on the list too, Like he 286 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 4: was a Pro Bowl player this year and was really 287 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 4: good for the second season, Like he's had two NFL seasons. Yes, 288 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 4: and so I think that he's only going to continue 289 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 4: to get better. He made a big jump from year 290 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 4: one to year two, and I don't see why that 291 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 4: same trajectory couldn't continue to in. 292 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: This trajectory this past year. Can how much even better 293 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: can he get? 294 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 2: So like they have? 295 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: Besides, you had nine Pro Bowlers voted to the Pro 296 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: Bowl this year. Besides that, you have like a lot 297 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: of other good young players that I think will only 298 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: get better. You have eleven draft picks that you're going 299 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 1: to have an influx of new, young, exciting talent in 300 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: the draft. 301 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 2: And then and then the coaches. 302 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: You know, Zach Orr going into year two, how much 303 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:40,679 Speaker 1: better is he going to be in year two than 304 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: he was even in year one? We saw the improvement 305 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: from this defense down the stretch. You add a piece 306 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: like a Chuck Pagano that I think will only make 307 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: this defense stronger and better. So really, I think, you know, 308 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 1: the defense at the end of last season was a 309 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 1: really strong unit, and in twenty twenty four. I think 310 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: the offense really kind of caught up in year two 311 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: under Monk and it became a juggernaut kind of offense 312 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: and the defense struggled the first half of the season. Now, 313 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: if you can get the defense, okay, bring that back 314 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 1: up to where it was at the end of the 315 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: twenty twenty. 316 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 3: Three season and even at the end of this year and. 317 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 1: Even at the end of the Yeah, but I think 318 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:18,839 Speaker 1: it can be even better. Right, Like you sort out 319 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: the safety problem. You know, you had a little bit of. 320 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 3: A challenge inside linebacker. 321 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: Oh, inside linebacker, sure, cornerback, they're the late part of 322 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: the year, you know, Stevens was kind of getting picked 323 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: on and you had a little bit of a weak 324 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: spot there. Like if you can shore up cornerback, safety, 325 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: you know, and inside linebacker, Like, how much better can 326 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: this defense be? And year two under Zach you had 327 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: Chuck Pagano in there, Like, I think that the defense, 328 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 1: specifically the offense, Hey, if you just maintain what you 329 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: were last year, and I think that's still obviously the 330 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: missions is that, but you run that back on offense, 331 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: I'm cool with that, yeah, Right, And then if you 332 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: elevate the defense, which I think there's a room for 333 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: the defense to grow. Oh right, if you can do that, 334 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 1: and I think that'll be part a big part of 335 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: the focus this offseason, man, like what can this team become? 336 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 3: You go back to. 337 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 4: Where this team was a year ago, and it was 338 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 4: massive change on the defense side. The defensive coaching staff 339 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 4: was picked through and that and then and then you 340 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 4: lost a handful of free agents Patrick Queen and. 341 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 3: Javon Clowney, Ryn Old Darby, and we were. 342 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 4: Spending all the time talking in the off season about 343 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 4: like how are you going to replace these coaches? How 344 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 4: are you going to replace these players? Where you look 345 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 4: at it now and really on both sides of the 346 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 4: ball players and coaching staff wise, it's running back like generally, 347 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 4: of course, there's there's some changes, and you added a 348 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 4: new piece like Chuck mcgonad to the coaching staff, and 349 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 4: there will be some changes from a roster standpoint, but 350 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 4: it's not wholesale changes, yea. And if you can keep 351 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 4: your coordinators and add some really good coaches to the 352 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 4: mix and keep the core of the roster intact for 353 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 4: a for an excellent team, I think that there's there 354 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 4: the reason that you have for optimism is very much 355 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 4: justified and and it's valid. And I think that like 356 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 4: this team is going to be going into the year 357 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 4: in aod in a good spot, and keeping Monkin, I 358 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 4: think is just kind of sets the course for that 359 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 4: going into the rest of the off season. 360 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 3: It starts it off on a really good note. 361 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 362 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: I remember last year when the Ravens were losing a 363 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: bunch of coaches and they had the free agency losses 364 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: and they were rebuilding the offensive line. They went through 365 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: kind of phase one of that O line rebuild. I mean, 366 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: I remember people saying on social media and whatnot, like 367 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: it's a rebuild year for the Ravens, like, ah, throw 368 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 1: this year out, kind of we're gonna get them in 369 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, right, Golly, you know the Ravens in 370 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four and I think a very good chance 371 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: of going to the Super Bowl and winning it all. Right, 372 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 1: Like they were clearly one of the best teams in 373 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: the league. But I still also think, gosh, what can 374 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty five Ravens be. 375 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 2: It can be really nasty. 376 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: From you're in a good salary cap position, you can 377 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: retain all these guys, you can get even better. Like 378 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: you've We've undergone some of those changes in the rebuilds 379 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 1: and all that, so you're a year removed from that, 380 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: and they'll continue They'll have to keep continuing to kind 381 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:10,360 Speaker 1: of rebuild the left side of that offensive line, obviously 382 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: depending on what happens with Ronnie Stanley and Pat McCarey 383 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: is a free agent also. 384 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 2: But I am very very boollish on twenty twenty five 385 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 2: and it's gotten off to a great start so far. 386 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 3: I totally agree. 387 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 4: So let's take a quick break and then we come back. 388 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:26,199 Speaker 4: We'll talk through some of the other things that are 389 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 4: happening at this point of the offseason. 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So thanks to our partners, at CSX 398 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 4: for that reminder as well. 399 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: I want to just on the flip side of the 400 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 1: argument that we are just having, or the conversation we 401 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 1: were just having about why we feel really good about 402 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:07,400 Speaker 1: the Ravens twenty twenty twenty five chances. I think it's 403 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 1: going to come down to, in part, like if you're like, okay, 404 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 1: how could it? 405 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 2: What's the flip side of that? 406 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: Right? I think, A, the Ravens had really good health 407 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: this past year, and knock on wood, you need to 408 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:24,159 Speaker 1: stay healthy again, like that was a major factor and 409 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 1: why the Ravens were so good. B The Ravens had 410 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 1: great contributions from from some of their older veterans. Marlon 411 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 1: Humphrey had a resurgencies and Ronnie Stanley had a resurgencies 412 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 1: and Kyle van Noy was producing at thirty three years old. 413 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 1: Can those guys do it again, not only stay healthy 414 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 1: but also play at that high level again? Yeah, you know, 415 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: And I ain't betting against Kyle van Noy. He's made 416 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: a lot of people look very silly. Derrick Henry another 417 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:52,199 Speaker 1: one in that list. I ain't bet against any of 418 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: those guys of those three, but like that will be 419 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: a question, you know, as it always is with players 420 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: in their thirties early to mid thirties. And then I think, also, 421 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 1: you know, can you play cleaner football? That's been the 422 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 1: hang up in the postseason? Right is you've turned when 423 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: it comes to critical situations when it comes to the postseason. 424 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 2: Are you going to play cleaner football? 425 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 1: That's gonna be the big question for whether the Ravens 426 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: can get over the help because I think, as we 427 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 1: just discussed, from a talent standpoint and from a coaching standpoint, 428 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: the Ravens are going to have the ingredients. Yeah, they're 429 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: gonna be right in the thick of it, and the 430 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: competition is going to be great, right. 431 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 2: Josh Allen and the Bills are going to be great again. 432 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 1: Patrick Momow as long as he's under center, the Chiefs 433 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 1: are gonna be good, great again. It's gonna be hard 434 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 1: to win the AFC nor three straight years. So the 435 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:38,880 Speaker 1: Bengals are gonna be good. The Steelers are always tough. 436 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: Browns are going to be improved. I'm sure right like, 437 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 1: the competition will be hard again, But I think the 438 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: Ravens are going to have at their core the talent 439 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 1: and the coaching. Do those other factors can can you 440 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: hit on those? I think if they do, yeah. 441 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 4: And it's kind of funny a year ago, particularly the 442 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 4: second question, we were asked the same thing because of 443 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 4: going back to like the twenty twenty three season, you 444 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 4: had these contributions from Clowney who came in and had 445 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:07,360 Speaker 4: a career year and Ronald Darby who came in were 446 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 4: really impactful players. It's like, can you get that? To 447 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 4: get van Noy in twenty three as well, It's. 448 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 3: Like, can you get that again? Is that that's kind 449 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 3: of tough? 450 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 4: He kind of found lightning in a bottle there like 451 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,120 Speaker 4: And then the answer was yes, the Ravens were able 452 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 4: to do that. And I think that the way this 453 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 4: team is built. DaCosta has said it before on the record, 454 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,880 Speaker 4: like our views that are our championship windows every year, 455 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 4: Like that's the that's the way that the Ravens build 456 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 4: this team. And I think that I don't see a reason. 457 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 4: Health is always tricky, Like health is always tricky because 458 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:38,439 Speaker 4: that's the good known. But I think the Ravens have 459 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:40,959 Speaker 4: They've done really well in that area, and I think 460 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 4: they have a great strength program and training program and 461 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 4: all that. So I think that like the work that 462 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,400 Speaker 4: goes on in this building behind the scenes to keep 463 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 4: this team healthy is really significant and pays dividends. 464 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 3: So but it's it's an unknown. 465 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 1: But like I think twenty twenty six is going to 466 00:20:56,480 --> 00:21:00,880 Speaker 1: be harder, though we're skipping ahead. I'm circling twenty five well. 467 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 1: As Eric to Costa said at the season ending press conference, 468 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 1: we're gonna have harder We're gonna have more difficult decisions 469 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,120 Speaker 1: next to off season than we do this offseason. Got 470 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 1: Mark Andrews Isaiah likely both free agents. You're gonna have 471 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: Linderbaum and Kyle Hamilton. You either got to pick up 472 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 1: their fifth year options and they get way more expensive, 473 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 1: or you sign them to extensions they. 474 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 3: Sign this year too. 475 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: But yes, I get day Flowers is going to be 476 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: coming up, not too you know, like there's gonna and hey, 477 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 1: that's all good problems because the Ravens keep drafting so well, yeah, 478 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 1: that's why you have these issues, right, And as long 479 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 1: as the Ravens continue to keep drafting well, which I 480 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: think they will, then you're okay, right, you keep getting 481 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 1: that influx of new, young, cheaper talent. But uh, but 482 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 1: they're gonna have some tough decisions to make. In twenty 483 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 1: twenty six, So I am. 484 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 4: Let's dive into the twenty twenty seven what about what's 485 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 4: that gonna look like? Now? 486 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, like when you're making decisions this offseason, that's. 487 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 3: What Eric to Coosta is. They're playing their sado. 488 00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 2: Oh you gotta look down the road. 489 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 4: They plan years in advance, and one of the things 490 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 4: that they're doing this week is, of course there's a 491 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 4: Ravens contingency down in Mobile, Alabama at the Senior Bowl. 492 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 3: And we joke about it. 493 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 4: Every year, like flashed forward to the draft press conference 494 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 4: this year and there will be a player or two, 495 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 4: probably a few of them where DaCosta sits up there 496 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 4: after the draft and says, we saw this guy at 497 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 4: the Senior Bowl. We really liked it, and he stood 498 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:23,919 Speaker 4: out to us. Then he really came on to our 499 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 4: radar there. Like there's so many different examples of players 500 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 4: who have jumped out to the Ravens at the Senior 501 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 4: Bowl and not necessarily that they've drafted them solely because 502 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 4: of what they've done at the Senior Bowl, but they. 503 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:35,880 Speaker 3: Catch their eye. 504 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 2: Ali's a great example of that. 505 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, he was somebody that he definitely caught their eyelashes 506 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 1: jumped on the radar at the Senior Bowl. 507 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 4: The one I remember this is going way back, is 508 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 4: Brandon Williams. Brandon Williams is a guy from a small school. 509 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 4: Nobody really knew who he was, and he came out there, 510 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 4: had a great Senior Bowl, proved himself against higher end talent, 511 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 4: the players coming from bigger schools, and the Ravens was like, 512 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 4: we got to take another look at this guy, and 513 00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 4: then obviously drafted him in the third round. 514 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 3: He came here was a great player. 515 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 1: I think that's often the case at the Senior Bowl. 516 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 1: The Senior Bowl's biggest for those kind of players who 517 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: play at a lower level of competition to see how 518 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:11,880 Speaker 1: they stack up against the big boys from the Power 519 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 1: five conferences. Yeah, that's like the measuring stick for those guys. 520 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: I mean, rashind La is a good example. 521 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 2: Marshall. 522 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 1: Right, you played at Marshall, came up and did well 523 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 1: that week for the guys. You know, it's important for everybody, 524 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: but for the Power five dudes a little less. So. 525 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 1: The Ravens have a rich history, as you're talking about, 526 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 1: of drafting guys who played at the Senior Bowl. 527 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:35,159 Speaker 2: Roger Rosengarten. 528 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 1: Last year at Deza, Isaac Devontes Walker and as we 529 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 1: mentioned Rashiina League as Tavius Robinson, you know he was 530 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:45,400 Speaker 1: Andrew Boorhi's Travis Jones. Travis Jones was another great example 531 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 1: Connecticut right not playing necessarily the greatest competition up there, 532 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 1: came up and dominated at the Senior Bowl. 533 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 2: Ravens said, yeah, we'll take that guy. 534 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, him and Tavius Robinson. I think we're two guys that. 535 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 4: I mean Tavi's Robinson played a ole miss in the SEC, 536 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 4: but he was a player coming from Canada, a little 537 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 4: bit of a late bloomer, proved himself at the Senior Bowl. 538 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 4: So like, there's gonna be a guy I don't know 539 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,159 Speaker 4: who it is. Look down the Senior Bowl roster that 540 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 4: the Ravens draft in the third fourth round. Who they 541 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 4: say down in that week at Mobile he caught our 542 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 4: attention and then we were onto him. And that's gonna 543 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 4: happen again this year, and they're looking right now and 544 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:17,439 Speaker 4: figure out who that's gonna be. 545 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 1: Absolutely, I kind of wish I was down there eating 546 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 1: some barbecue here. 547 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 3: They have very good barbecue. 548 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 2: There, they they really do. It was the whole reason 549 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 2: that i'd like to go to Mobile. 550 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 3: You just you didn't got any players you were in there. 551 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 1: I was the whole time sitting in those stands in Mobile, 552 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 1: I was one hundred. 553 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 2: Percent checking out the online menus. I mean there's a 554 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 2: long practice. Good play, Yeah I got that one. I 555 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 2: got there. 556 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 3: Okay, we got. 557 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 4: And then and then the last thing this week is 558 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 4: also the Pro Bowl Pro Bowl games, and. 559 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 1: Seven guys that are currently still slated to go. It's 560 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 1: Kyle Hollinson, Marlon Linderbaum, Recard Roquon, Ronnie Vannoy. 561 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, so there you go. Uh So, congratulations to those 562 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 4: guys from making it. I think it's a chance to 563 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:03,879 Speaker 4: like the Pro Bowl. They don't do the actual game anymore. 564 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 4: It's the skills competition and flag football. But I think 565 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,400 Speaker 4: it's still a chance for these guys to just enjoy 566 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,919 Speaker 4: the success of what they accomplished individually this year. Like 567 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 4: it's it's notable, and I've been down there a number 568 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 4: of times. I think it's awesome to see the best 569 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 4: of the best all in one place. Like I remember 570 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:22,640 Speaker 4: the first time I was there. You're looking around, You're 571 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 4: like this is cool. Like there's there's Peyton Manning, and 572 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 4: there's like these great players, these historic players, they're all 573 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 4: in one place. And I think for players like a 574 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,880 Speaker 4: Marlon Humphrey who have been there a handful of times, 575 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,719 Speaker 4: you build relationships with some of these guys, and then 576 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 4: you have a player who gets to go for the 577 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 4: first time and Kyle van Noy who, like you've been 578 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 4: working towards this, you're working towards this, and then you 579 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 4: get to go to your first Pro Bowl at the 580 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 4: stage of his career. It's a great accomplishment. And those guys, 581 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 4: I hope they enjoy themselves down in Orlando. 582 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, and make sure you know tune in and watch 583 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: some of these skills challenges in the dodgeball and all 584 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 1: doing dodgeball again. 585 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 4: I think there's dodgeball this year. There's a whole bunch 586 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,040 Speaker 4: of different skills challenges. We're gonna have a crew. We 587 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 4: are going to have a crew at the Pro Bowl 588 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 4: covering practice on Friday and Saturday, in the game on Sunday, 589 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:04,199 Speaker 4: so we. 590 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 2: Have some players miked. 591 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, We've got some players mike to some fun stuff 592 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:08,719 Speaker 4: that we have plan coming your way. So make sure 593 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 4: that you're following us on social media and of course 594 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 4: We'll be posting all that on social and our app 595 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 4: and our website, so stay tuned. 596 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:15,959 Speaker 2: Thanks for listening. 597 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 1: As always, you can reach us at the Lounge at 598 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: ravenst NFL dot net. And we tease the off season 599 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: Blueprint podcasts, but because of the coaching news, we punted 600 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 1: that one. That one's it's coming to you on Monday, 601 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: assuming we don't have more breaking news. That's the plan, 602 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 1: so tune in Monday for a full twenty twenty five 603 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:37,120 Speaker 1: off season Blueprint. 604 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 2: Thanks for listening.