WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: New Beginnings

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<v Speaker 1>The following.

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<v Speaker 2>He is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and

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<v Speaker 2>the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 3>This He's Talking Cowboys Training live from Dallas Cowboys Training

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<v Speaker 3>Camp in Oxnard, Caliso.

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<v Speaker 4>Street, sextown, six seconds, got ten, twenty Today, Texdown.

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<v Speaker 5>And now your hosts Isaiah Stanback, Nick Harris, John Mashoda,

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<v Speaker 5>and Kyle Yeomans.

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<v Speaker 1>For the first time in the twenty twenty three season,

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<v Speaker 1>we welcome you to Talking Cowboys, presented by Black Rifle

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<v Speaker 1>Coffee Company. We are on site here in Oxnard, California

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<v Speaker 1>for training Camp twenty twenty three. We've got some new

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<v Speaker 1>players to talk about. We've got some new hosts to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about as well. I'm Kyle Yeomans back here for

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<v Speaker 1>what is now going to be my fourth season on

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<v Speaker 1>Talking Cowboys, which is crazy for me to say, because

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<v Speaker 1>I still feel like the newbie sometimes around these parts.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got Nick Harris, who's going into season number one,

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<v Speaker 1>but you've been on the show a couple times before.

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<v Speaker 1>We got Chris Beam in the back who's been here forever.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do want to welcome to the show for

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<v Speaker 1>the first time ever, mister John Machoda from the athletic.

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<v Speaker 1>What's going on?

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<v Speaker 6>John not Man living the dream?

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know that there's anybody that loves coming out

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<v Speaker 7>here more than I do. You might love it as much,

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<v Speaker 7>but I don't know that anybody loves it more than

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<v Speaker 7>I do.

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<v Speaker 1>What's your favorite part about being out here?

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<v Speaker 7>I should say the weather, but for me, it's really

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<v Speaker 7>the social media because the policies that they allow out

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<v Speaker 7>here are a lot better, so being able to post

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<v Speaker 7>videos and things like that, that's probably my actual favorite part.

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<v Speaker 7>But I mean, yeah, obviously this weather is incredible, and

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<v Speaker 7>I love that they come out here for that, but

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<v Speaker 7>I love the social media aspect.

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<v Speaker 1>Is what year is this for you?

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<v Speaker 6>That's a good question.

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<v Speaker 7>So I didn't get hired full time until twenty fourteen,

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<v Speaker 7>but I was coming out to camp. I started coming

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<v Speaker 7>out to camp in twenty eleven, but it was like

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<v Speaker 7>one of those things I was at the Dale's Morey News, yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>where I would only come out for like maybe a week,

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<v Speaker 7>and then after I obviously got hired full time, then

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<v Speaker 7>it was you know, the entire camp and every home

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<v Speaker 7>and road game.

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<v Speaker 6>So every year since twenty fourteen, I'd say, yeah, that's awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>Nick, So I mean, this is your first camp, first impression.

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<v Speaker 8>So far, it's been fantastic. I will say the weather,

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<v Speaker 8>it's fantastic. It's a much different, much different ray than

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<v Speaker 8>what we get in Dallas. But yeah, it's been fun

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<v Speaker 8>so far. Hasn't been short of any drama, and I

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<v Speaker 8>feel like I'm getting the full experience so far.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the that's the tease of all teases. It hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>been short of drama already. We've got some things to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about but before so, I mean, this is a

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<v Speaker 1>bit of a switch up of course for those of

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<v Speaker 1>you who normally tune into Talking Cowboys. We will not

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<v Speaker 1>have Patrick Walker on the show this year, and he

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<v Speaker 1>makes the jump to the break and congrats to Pat

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<v Speaker 1>for that and really excited to see him continue to

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<v Speaker 1>grow in his role at Dallas Cowboys dot Com. We

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<v Speaker 1>still love Patrick and he's already told me today he

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I'm gonna pull a Nate Newton and just

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<v Speaker 1>pop in randomly, which is what ends up happening from

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<v Speaker 1>time to time when we're at the Star and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure Nate will probably do while we're out here as well.

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<v Speaker 1>We will have Isaiah Standback on the show throughout training camp.

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<v Speaker 1>He should get here this weekend, and so that'll be

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of fun going into next week. We'll have

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<v Speaker 1>John on for every episode during training camp, and then

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<v Speaker 1>of course Nick is on full time when we get

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<v Speaker 1>back as well. But I want to start with getting

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<v Speaker 1>to know you guys a little bit more. So I

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<v Speaker 1>want to a quick ten second resume, and then what

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<v Speaker 1>was the biggest thing you did this summer going into

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<v Speaker 1>training camp? Not football related? I want I want to

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<v Speaker 1>I want to know what John did this summer.

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<v Speaker 7>For me, probably the best thing was I went back

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<v Speaker 7>to Michigan. I'm from right outside Detroit Warren, Michigan, and

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<v Speaker 7>uh that's kind of the area where Eminem's from, and

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<v Speaker 7>so I was back up there and some friends wanted

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<v Speaker 7>to go to this at cheering concert at Forkfield, and

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<v Speaker 7>during the concert, Eminem came out and did a couple

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<v Speaker 7>of songs. So he hasn't toured in a while, and

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<v Speaker 7>I'm a big fan and that was a surprise.

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<v Speaker 6>So I'd say, that's probably, you know, the coolest thing.

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<v Speaker 7>And then when I got down here, though, I got

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<v Speaker 7>I got down here last Thursday, usually try and come

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<v Speaker 7>in a few days early, and went to an Angels game,

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<v Speaker 7>So I saw Otani pitch and so that was that

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<v Speaker 7>was cool too.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, big baseball guy.

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<v Speaker 6>Uh, it's it's third.

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<v Speaker 7>There's clearly like, like my favorite sport to play has

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<v Speaker 7>always been basketball, but the cover it's football, and it's

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<v Speaker 7>not even close. But football and basketball are the top two,

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<v Speaker 7>but baseball is third, but there's a big drop off

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<v Speaker 7>to anything else. So there's kind of like that core three.

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<v Speaker 7>But even if I wasn't a huge baseball fan of

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<v Speaker 7>just the whole Otani pitching and playing at a ridiculous level,

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<v Speaker 7>it's incredible that I just it's like kind of like

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<v Speaker 7>the Steph Curry thing, like I don't I is that

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<v Speaker 7>really going to change the game to where like you

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<v Speaker 7>never you know, all these guys are gonna start doing

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<v Speaker 7>You've got to be really good to be able to

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<v Speaker 7>do that. How many guys are gonna be able to

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<v Speaker 7>pitch and hit an elite level? So I just kind

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<v Speaker 7>of feel like it's a rare time for that.

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<v Speaker 9>So it's a spectacle. That's that's the best way to

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<v Speaker 9>put him.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So and you're with the athletic now, you talked

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<v Speaker 1>about not being full time until tw twenty fourteen, how

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<v Speaker 1>did you kind of get into the business and how

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<v Speaker 1>did you end up.

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<v Speaker 7>At the athletic so being I grew up a Detroit

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<v Speaker 7>sports fan and in uh I graduated high school two thousand,

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<v Speaker 7>but I didn't really know what I wanted to do

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<v Speaker 7>professionally after that. I actually went to community college and

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<v Speaker 7>got my associate's degree in law enforcement.

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<v Speaker 6>I thought I was gonna be a police officer.

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<v Speaker 7>And then when that was finishing up, the Pistons were

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<v Speaker 7>starting to roll and that's like three zero four to

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<v Speaker 7>oh five ish there, and I was like, I just

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<v Speaker 7>couldn't consume enough about the team, and I was like, man,

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<v Speaker 7>that would be such a fun job to cover a team.

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<v Speaker 7>And so I ended up going to Wayne State in Detroit,

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<v Speaker 7>and a lot of this stuff I got the community

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<v Speaker 7>college stuff didn't transfer over school wise, so it was

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<v Speaker 7>like starting over. So I was kind of behind. You know,

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<v Speaker 7>your friends are all graduating at different times. But it

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<v Speaker 7>was the best decision I ever made, because my dream

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<v Speaker 7>was to cover like the Tigers, Allions or Pistons. I

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<v Speaker 7>never thought i'd get a chance to cover the Dallas Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 7>So an editor of mine, when I was a freelance

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<v Speaker 7>at a Detroit Free Press. He got a job of

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<v Speaker 7>the Dallas Morning News, and so he called me one

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<v Speaker 7>day and was like, hey, if you're willing to come

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<v Speaker 7>down here, I don't have anything full time, but you

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<v Speaker 7>know I can find work for you for sure.

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<v Speaker 6>And that was great.

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<v Speaker 7>That was in twenty eleven and the Rangers were rolling

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<v Speaker 7>the MAVs obviously won the championship. You know, there's just

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<v Speaker 7>a lot of and then the Cowboys are always of interest.

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<v Speaker 7>So I got to go out to Valley Ranch and

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<v Speaker 7>really was I always say it was like a drug,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, Like I was like, I just want to

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<v Speaker 7>cover the cowboys, like I love to being around.

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<v Speaker 6>I love the interest of it.

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<v Speaker 7>And I was at that in my mind, I was like,

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<v Speaker 7>I'm just going to keep showing up until eventually somebody

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<v Speaker 7>hires me full time, you know. And that, thankfully to

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<v Speaker 7>Derek Eagleton d Elle's Cowboys. They offered me a job

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<v Speaker 7>to cover the team for the for the website. And

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<v Speaker 7>when that happened, the Dallasmore News was like, no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 7>we'll hire you full time hire and so that it

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<v Speaker 7>helped me obviously. So and then in twenty nineteen I

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<v Speaker 7>ended up going to the athletic and been having a

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<v Speaker 7>blast there ever since.

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<v Speaker 1>That's awesome and you do great work. I mean I've

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<v Speaker 1>always followed John, even whenever I was in small market radio.

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<v Speaker 1>I was on ESPN Central Texas. You were on our

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<v Speaker 1>morning show. Almost every week. I would hit up John.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd be like, listen, John, I need you on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>We got to get you some cowboys talk, so had

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<v Speaker 1>It's great to be able to kind of work with

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<v Speaker 1>you on air. We've worked behind the scenes quite a bit,

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<v Speaker 1>but on air is gonna be a whole new level.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think it's gonna be great for this show,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm excited about it. And then I'm excited to

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<v Speaker 1>see what Nick Harris has in store for us this year.

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<v Speaker 1>I've told people, Yeah, I've told people this before, but

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<v Speaker 1>and Nick and I go back pretty far too, but

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<v Speaker 1>nobody has seen the swag that Nick Harris has yet.

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's just barely scratching. Honestly, both of these guys.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at the shoes. Both of you guys got

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<v Speaker 1>great shoe game. But Nick, I mean, tell me what

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<v Speaker 1>you did this summer and what you're most looking forward

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<v Speaker 1>to going into this training camp.

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<v Speaker 8>I would say my one highlight from the summer non

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<v Speaker 8>football related. Took a New York trip with one of

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<v Speaker 8>my roommates and I had a fantastic time out there.

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<v Speaker 8>It was a couple of weeks and you know, watch

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<v Speaker 8>some baseball, went and saw the old Polo grounds where

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<v Speaker 8>it used to be. Now it's just a section eight

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<v Speaker 8>up complex, but it was cool to kind of take

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<v Speaker 8>in taking that aura, saw massive square garden, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>did all the New York things, and then uh caught

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<v Speaker 8>COVID on my way back.

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<v Speaker 9>So it was it was a fantastic time.

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<v Speaker 8>Obviously, and I had my wallet stolen, had my wallet

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<v Speaker 8>stolen out there too.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just highlight.

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<v Speaker 8>Was the highlight of my summer exactly, but never did

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<v Speaker 8>I was. I got my license. I had had to

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<v Speaker 8>request a new license. Unfortunately I got it the day

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<v Speaker 8>before the charter left, and if I didn't, it was

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<v Speaker 8>going to be we're going to figure out some things.

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<v Speaker 8>But fortunately, exactly right, I was gonna be hiding in

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<v Speaker 8>your luggage.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I had an extra bag. I got screened, So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that wouldn't have worked out. That wouldn't have worked out

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<v Speaker 1>this time. But that's awesome, very nice. It was that

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<v Speaker 1>your first time going to New York.

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<v Speaker 8>No, it wasn't, but it was my first time spending

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<v Speaker 8>that much time there and really soaking it in.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, that's awesome. Yeah are you going back? Oh?

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<v Speaker 9>Absolutely absolutely? Yeah I had too much.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, beamer is is, Yeah, you might have lost game one,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe game two will go better for you, exactly.

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<v Speaker 7>It's it's gonna be funny though, like when when the

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<v Speaker 7>not to call it any names of the older sports

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<v Speaker 7>writers that cover this team, but like thinking of that,

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<v Speaker 7>like so that you know that game, it's you know

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<v Speaker 7>it's actually in New Jersey, and I just find it

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<v Speaker 7>funny how there's some people on this beat that don't

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<v Speaker 7>try to go to New York every time, like I

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<v Speaker 7>always am, like when I get tired of like trying

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<v Speaker 7>to go to New York when we go there, for

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<v Speaker 7>like especially that year when they played the Giants and

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<v Speaker 7>Jets both in Jersey, I was like, well, I got

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<v Speaker 7>to go over there, like I saw like earlier in

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<v Speaker 7>the day before they play that the Giants to open it.

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<v Speaker 7>The Yankees have a home game, and there's part of

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<v Speaker 7>me that's like, man, I should try and make it

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<v Speaker 7>over there.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know if it's doable.

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<v Speaker 7>But yeah, I just always try and get over there

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<v Speaker 7>for I don't know that i'd want to live there,

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<v Speaker 7>but ye, visiting.

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<v Speaker 9>Is great, absolutely, I agree.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree. I'm with you.

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<v Speaker 8>Just walking around it's it's incredibly fast paced and if

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<v Speaker 8>you can keep up, it's fun. But as far as

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<v Speaker 8>living there, I'd have to I'd have to think about

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<v Speaker 8>it. It had to be a hard thought, it would have.

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<v Speaker 1>To be a big, big opportunity to make make that.

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<v Speaker 7>The best way that I just I could explain to

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<v Speaker 7>somebody the very first time I ever went there, when

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<v Speaker 7>I got off of the say, I felt like you

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<v Speaker 7>were in a car merging into traffic, trying to start

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<v Speaker 7>walking with people. All right, are we getting in? Are

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<v Speaker 7>we getting okay? Yeah, got to make.

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<v Speaker 1>A signal get in there. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>I spent my freshman year at Allen High School, and

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<v Speaker 8>if anyone's familiar with Alan and how many kids they

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<v Speaker 8>try to jam pack into those hallways, they gave me

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<v Speaker 8>a lot of PTSD walking off that subway for the

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<v Speaker 8>first time.

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<v Speaker 9>So that was that was the best way I could

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<v Speaker 9>explain it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even want to really imagine that. Honestly, that

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<v Speaker 1>sounds terrible. Speaking of New York, I guess that leads

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<v Speaker 1>into my biggest thing this summer, got married. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about that on talking Cowboys before. I told

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<v Speaker 1>my wife Lorena. As we were leaving, I told her

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<v Speaker 1>I was She was like, the first thing you need

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<v Speaker 1>to say on har is that you love me. And

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, okay, I will. I'll tell you so.

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<v Speaker 1>I love you, Lorena. Here you go. So now that

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<v Speaker 1>that's out of the way, let's talk some cowboys. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>definitely do that real quickly. First impressions from practice number one.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll take a break here in a minute. We might

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<v Speaker 1>continue this conversation. But John, when you were looking at

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<v Speaker 1>practice yesterday, definitely a lot to take in. I felt

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<v Speaker 1>like they didn't waste any time. They only have the

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<v Speaker 1>twelve practice sessions, ten of which are padded, and certainly

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<v Speaker 1>practice one was right off to a hot start.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, and there's a part of me that I wish

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<v Speaker 7>coach wouldn't do that, because again, I love the social

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<v Speaker 7>media aspect, and when they were doing something tempost stuff,

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<v Speaker 7>it's like, I don't have enough time to tweet these

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<v Speaker 7>videos down and get to the next one. I get

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<v Speaker 7>I get there doing it for conditionings, I wish he

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<v Speaker 7>would care a little bit more.

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<v Speaker 1>About about your tweeting. The engagement needs to be there.

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<v Speaker 7>The two things that that's most to me would be

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<v Speaker 7>one is that the semi fojoco tip pass that eric'scotted

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<v Speaker 7>up intercepting. And only reason why that stands out is

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<v Speaker 7>because that was an issue last year. So if you

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<v Speaker 7>see it, you can kind of be like, oh, is

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<v Speaker 7>this gonna happen all over again? Which it's just one practice,

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<v Speaker 7>it's not that big of a deal. But you know,

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<v Speaker 7>we tend to in our business sometimes overrate things, no doubt,

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<v Speaker 7>and speaking of that, like and I don't want to

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<v Speaker 7>oversell this because that is such a training camp thing

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<v Speaker 7>to over sell wide receiver. But I just I really

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<v Speaker 7>thought Jalen Tolbert looked good, Like he just looked like

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<v Speaker 7>he was really sure of himself, was in the right spots,

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<v Speaker 7>like uh, you know, made the catches that they were

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<v Speaker 7>there to make. And you know, obviously a lot of

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<v Speaker 7>eyes are going to be on him during this camp,

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<v Speaker 7>and I just thought he had a really great start

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<v Speaker 7>first day.

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<v Speaker 1>It's huge.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I think Jaylen Tolbert was probably the biggest standout

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<v Speaker 8>just because of what he had to face. Last year

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<v Speaker 8>both mentally and on the field, and this season you

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<v Speaker 8>can really tell that he's starting to find that extra

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<v Speaker 8>gear and find that extra switch building chemistry with Dak

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<v Speaker 8>Prescott both on and off the field. And you know,

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<v Speaker 8>we were able to see that early on, and seeing

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<v Speaker 8>that early on can only give you.

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<v Speaker 9>Hope about what's to come.

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<v Speaker 8>So I actually wrote about it in one of my

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<v Speaker 8>practice points yesterday on Dallas Cowboys dot Com.

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<v Speaker 9>Y'all can go check that out.

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<v Speaker 8>But the receiver group overall just had a fantastic day yesterday,

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<v Speaker 8>Like even Simmy Fooco aside from that one tipped pass,

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<v Speaker 8>he had a good day. It was just very unfortunate

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<v Speaker 8>that his worst moment was probably the team's worst moment yesterday.

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<v Speaker 7>The thing I always had problems with that too, not problems,

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<v Speaker 7>but it just you kind of have to adjust to

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<v Speaker 7>is like, Okay, so do you sit there and talk

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<v Speaker 7>about how bad of a play that was or then

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<v Speaker 7>you got the Eric Scott side of it.

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<v Speaker 6>That's obviously a big play for absolutely a.

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<v Speaker 7>Young corner to make, so you want to be sure,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, I mean, you got to be in the

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<v Speaker 7>right place at the right time.

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<v Speaker 6>And he's the guy that has been doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>That was such an interesting play because I agree there's

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<v Speaker 1>almost three levels to it is interception. Of course, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a quarterback stat and everybody's been looking at that quarterback stat,

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<v Speaker 1>especially with Dak Prescott this offseason. Fifteen interceptions last year.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been a notable talking point and it should be

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<v Speaker 1>based off of the year, and Dak would even say

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<v Speaker 1>so that he had in twenty twenty two. But it

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<v Speaker 1>was a good throw from Dak. So the next storyline

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<v Speaker 1>is semi Fojoko, why didn't you catch it? It's a drop,

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<v Speaker 1>It's a tipped ball that ended up going up into

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<v Speaker 1>the air. If you're gonna drop it, at least drop

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<v Speaker 1>it toward the ground and at least try and make

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of effort to not allow it to be intercepted.

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<v Speaker 1>And Dak, even with the trip out to the East

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<v Speaker 1>Coast and to even have that mentality he's talking about,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to have tipped interceptions. I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to have that thing in the air, that ball in

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<v Speaker 1>the air after it hits my receiver's hand. So you're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get on the same page, why does that

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<v Speaker 1>not happen in that specific moment? And then The third

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<v Speaker 1>storyline would be Eric Scott Junior, young corner who a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people have their eyes on as well because

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<v Speaker 1>they traded up to go get him. You saw what

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<v Speaker 1>dron Bland did last year in the same scenario as

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<v Speaker 1>a day three mid major cornerback that comes in and

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<v Speaker 1>has an impact and ended up leading the team in

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<v Speaker 1>interceptions after a great camp. Eric Scott Junior's got a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of that expectation too. So there's three ways

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<v Speaker 1>to look at it, and I think really the fourth

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<v Speaker 1>way would just be let's not overseell this thing. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>not get too carried away, because I mean, it was

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<v Speaker 1>a great throw. Simmy had a better day outside of

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<v Speaker 1>that that most people will talk about. And then on

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<v Speaker 1>the third aspect of it, Eric Scott Junior had a

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<v Speaker 1>PBu two plays later where he broke a pass away.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe it was dirt and that he broke a

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<v Speaker 1>pass up with So I mean, overall, all three of

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<v Speaker 1>those guys had solid days yesterday to start things off. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I do want to talk more about Jalen Tolbert, so

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<v Speaker 1>when we come back on the other side of the break,

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<v Speaker 1>Tolbert as one of the leading at least attention getters

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<v Speaker 1>here in the early parts of camp. Is this too

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<v Speaker 1>early to say he's in the lead for that wide

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<v Speaker 1>receiver four spot or could he potentially just be getting

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<v Speaker 1>started as a former top one hundred pick when we

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<v Speaker 1>come back with more talking cowboys.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to Talking Cowboys. You can go get a

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<v Speaker 1>free workout in the in during the summer sweat sessions

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<v Speaker 1>at the Star powered by Cowboys Fit. Come out for

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<v Speaker 1>a cardio dance party on Wednesday, August second. That sounds

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<v Speaker 1>slash events for more info the summer sweat sessions. That

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<v Speaker 1>actually a dance party sounds nice. They should have that

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<v Speaker 1>out here.

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<v Speaker 8>I had a summer sweat session yesterday. I wore dress

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<v Speaker 8>pants and it was eighty two degrees. I was told

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<v Speaker 8>there would be a breeze. That did not happen.

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<v Speaker 1>You wore dress bands.

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<v Speaker 9>I did.

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<v Speaker 1>It was in a black shirt.

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<v Speaker 8>It was it was tough work yesterday. If you see

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<v Speaker 8>me on training Camp Live, I was I was battling hot.

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<v Speaker 9>I was battling.

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<v Speaker 6>I love that because my very first training camp the

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<v Speaker 6>exact same thing.

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<v Speaker 9>Here we are, here, we are.

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<v Speaker 6>I want to make sure I leave it today.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a completely different feel. And and for those of

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<v Speaker 1>that are back in Texas that are laughing at us

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<v Speaker 1>right now and they're like, you're not in a one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and four degree You're able to go outside and

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't feel like you're in a hair dryer. I agree.

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<v Speaker 1>But it is still hot at times, especially the sun.

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<v Speaker 1>If you want you want to ask anybody, consult my

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<v Speaker 1>forehead on how hot it gets out here. It does

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<v Speaker 1>still get hot. I guarantee it all right. Speaking of

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<v Speaker 1>getting hot, Jalen Tolbert seems to be getting hot at

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<v Speaker 1>the right time. See what I did there, Nick the

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<v Speaker 1>the the rookie year for Jalen Tolbert, no secret, it

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<v Speaker 1>was underwhelming significantly, and I think for for everybody that

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<v Speaker 1>was around him watching film once the draft happened, they

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<v Speaker 1>expected him to come in and possibly be the number

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<v Speaker 1>three receiver as a rookie, but John that didn't happen. Instead,

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<v Speaker 1>he's he's taking a new approach. It seems like he

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<v Speaker 1>talked to Nick Eatman at the Senior Bowl. He had

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<v Speaker 1>a great interview there, talked about how the mindset needs

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<v Speaker 1>to change, and it looks like it has. But he's

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<v Speaker 1>starting to show it in training camp already through is

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<v Speaker 1>just one practice the same way he did in the summer.

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<v Speaker 1>With OTA's and mini camp. I think he's he's on

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<v Speaker 1>the right track to possibly take that number four spot.

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<v Speaker 1>And as a former third round pick, do you think

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<v Speaker 1>he has the edge? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 7>I do, and I think not only is he doing

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<v Speaker 7>all the right things and saying all the right things,

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<v Speaker 7>like this is with certain players, Like it's not like

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<v Speaker 7>every single guy says the right thing, does the right thing,

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<v Speaker 7>it's doing the right preparation. There's certain things that I'm

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<v Speaker 7>not going to name any players' names over the years

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<v Speaker 7>covering the team, but there's certain guys where you're just like,

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<v Speaker 7>I wonder how serious this players even taking this. That's

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<v Speaker 7>not the case with Jalen told at all. And that

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<v Speaker 7>goes back to you know, OTA's in mini camp, just

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<v Speaker 7>when you're around him talking to him, and then obviously

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<v Speaker 7>during that portion between that ending and then training camp starting.

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<v Speaker 7>You see he's out there with Dak, he's working out,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, as much as possible, trying to be you know,

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<v Speaker 7>a sponge. And for me personally from what we do,

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<v Speaker 7>I just really liked how he owned up to it,

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<v Speaker 7>you know that, Hey, it wasn't like trying to. There's

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<v Speaker 7>just some guys that will try and act like it's

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<v Speaker 7>all that you know, you guys are just hating them.

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<v Speaker 7>It's like now, I mean it was there, you didn't

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<v Speaker 7>really make that big of an impact, And he totally

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<v Speaker 7>owned up to it. And so the mindset absolutely seems

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<v Speaker 7>to be there. And again the way that he started

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<v Speaker 7>out yesterday I just think is a great start for him.

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<v Speaker 7>So yeah, absolutely, I think you know that number four

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<v Speaker 7>spot right now. I think it's up between you know,

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<v Speaker 7>him and him and Simmi Filoko. And the other part

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<v Speaker 7>of is that when you take a guy in the

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<v Speaker 7>third round, you're gonna give that guy every opportunity to

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<v Speaker 7>try and win that job.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>Absolutely, And you you mentioned him just kind of finding

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<v Speaker 8>a different level of maturity. I think that's that's probably

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<v Speaker 8>what we see most whenever we talk to Jay Win Tolbert,

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<v Speaker 8>That's what we hear most out of him, and you

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<v Speaker 8>could tell it No tis for sure, you know he

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<v Speaker 8>was on the same page. It seemed like he was

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<v Speaker 8>talking to more guys in the offense and just another

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<v Speaker 8>level of understanding. And I also think Mike McCarthy taking

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<v Speaker 8>over his play caller kind of allowing him to just

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<v Speaker 8>reset completely. I think that really benefits him the most,

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<v Speaker 8>just because of how disappointing his rookie season was.

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<v Speaker 9>And he would even tell you that.

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<v Speaker 8>So being able to come in with a fresh system,

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<v Speaker 8>a fresh mindset, fully healthy, you know, getting on the

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<v Speaker 8>same page with your quarterback, that can only help him.

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<v Speaker 8>And after practice one he's the guy. So you know,

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<v Speaker 8>as far as we can tell, he's the guy right now,

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<v Speaker 8>What is.

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<v Speaker 1>Real What is a realistic expectation for for Tolvert specifically,

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<v Speaker 1>because if he does win the wide receivers for spot,

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<v Speaker 1>let's let's assume that he's in a rotation. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>in an offense where there is Michael Gallup, there is

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<v Speaker 1>Brandon Cooks, who, hey, he has been working with significantly

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<v Speaker 1>and he's latched onto. Uh. That's what Brian Schottenheimer told

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<v Speaker 1>us and told the media after OTA's were over. But

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<v Speaker 1>there's there's three names with Michael Gallup, Brandon Cooks and

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<v Speaker 1>of course Ceedee Lamb that are going to get some

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<v Speaker 1>some targets that are going to get that those reps.

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<v Speaker 1>But if he does win that number four spot, does

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<v Speaker 1>he need to be an impact player or what is

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<v Speaker 1>that expectation there?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, if you say that those first three are going

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<v Speaker 7>to stay completely healthy, then the expectations probably can be

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<v Speaker 7>a little bit lower because just the touches aren't going

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<v Speaker 7>to be there, the opportunities aren't going to be there.

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<v Speaker 7>But I mean there's gonna be opportunities for him because

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<v Speaker 7>even if let's say a guy isn't lost for you know,

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<v Speaker 7>the season or something like that, there's gonna be times

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<v Speaker 7>in games where a guy gets dinged up. And if

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<v Speaker 7>you're that number four receiver in today's NFL, I mean

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<v Speaker 7>you got to be preparing like almost your starter. They're

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<v Speaker 7>just gonna be so many opportunities there for you. So

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, yeah, as they say here today, I mean

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<v Speaker 7>they would love that. Yeah, you know, we need a Jalen,

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<v Speaker 7>but we didn't need him a ton because those top

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<v Speaker 7>three guys never got hurt. You know, That's yeah, you'd

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<v Speaker 7>hope for that, but let's be realistic here.

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<v Speaker 1>It kind of reminds me of Cedric Wilson.

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<v Speaker 7>Wilson, Noah Brown. There's always been a guy that you know.

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<v Speaker 7>And then the way the NFL keeps going, it's going

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<v Speaker 7>in that direction. You need four or five quality wide receivers.

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<v Speaker 6>What's a good season for him and fifty fifteen hundred yards?

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<v Speaker 1>No, Wow, he'd be comeback Player of the Year exactly

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<v Speaker 1>if he did something like that.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that's a good question.

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<v Speaker 1>If he hits twenty receptions, I agree, honestly, and the

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<v Speaker 1>yardist will come. I mean, if you have twenty receptions,

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<v Speaker 1>you're probably gonna have two hundred something yards touchdowns, probably

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<v Speaker 1>three or four touchdowns if he can make an impact

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<v Speaker 1>from a reception standpoint, Because you also got to throw

0:23:05.200 --> 0:23:06.560
<v Speaker 1>the tight ends into the mix as well. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the expectations for this offense is they want to run

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<v Speaker 1>the ball, But this is an offense then right now

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of the talent is set up to throw

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<v Speaker 1>it for sure. I mean, you've got so many receivers,

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<v Speaker 1>you have these young tight ends that you want to

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<v Speaker 1>unleash at some point as well. He's gonna have to

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<v Speaker 1>find those receptions somewhere. So I would think twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five receptions would be a solid year.

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<v Speaker 7>And of course it's that you know, people go back

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<v Speaker 7>to that play in Green Bay. You know, you got

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<v Speaker 7>to be in the right spot, can't line up off sides,

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<v Speaker 7>things like that that you know, it has to be

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<v Speaker 7>fundamentally sound. And if that happens, I think everything else

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<v Speaker 7>kind of take care of itself.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, no lapses in discipline and just doing your job.

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<v Speaker 8>I think that's that's all you can do as a

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<v Speaker 8>wide receiver.

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<v Speaker 9>Four two.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you also look at what he did last year.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he had what two receptions I think for

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<v Speaker 1>twenty yards and nine yards that's what it was. Two

0:23:49.440 --> 0:23:52.159
<v Speaker 1>receptions for nine yards. Siemi Fojoco had three receptions for

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was eighteen yards total. So either one

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<v Speaker 1>of those guys bringing production to your offense as a

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<v Speaker 1>whole is going to elevate things for for Dak Prescott

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<v Speaker 1>and it We kind of talked about the defense a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit earlier, but I think with this defense being

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<v Speaker 1>as good as they are and with it being one

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<v Speaker 1>of the tops in the NFL, a lot of eyes

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<v Speaker 1>are on the offense to try and match that energy.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you do you have a specific expectation. I hate

0:24:18.000 --> 0:24:20.600
<v Speaker 1>to keep asking about expectations, but do you haven't do

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<v Speaker 1>you have some for the offense on what they could

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<v Speaker 1>bring to the table to try and match what the

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<v Speaker 1>defense has done these last two years. I mean, and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe not even stats, but just in cleanliness with Mike

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<v Speaker 1>McCarthy's play caller and Dak trying to take care of

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<v Speaker 1>the football for sure.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, changing stuff up as long as everyone's on

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<v Speaker 7>the same page should benefit the entire offense. You know,

0:24:40.359 --> 0:24:44.520
<v Speaker 7>obviously losing Ezekiel Elliott and Tony Pollard stepping into that spot,

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<v Speaker 7>there's gonna be a lot of questions about, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>how he handles that and the success that he's able

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<v Speaker 7>to have there. They're going to obviously run the run

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<v Speaker 7>the football. But for me, I mean it's I know

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<v Speaker 7>this sounds basic, but it really is just like, tell

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<v Speaker 7>me if if they're how healthy they're going to be.

0:24:59.600 --> 0:25:01.119
<v Speaker 7>I mean that it's just such a big part of

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<v Speaker 7>the NFL. Injuries are such a big part, and so

0:25:03.600 --> 0:25:06.840
<v Speaker 7>you look at all these playmakers that they have, and

0:25:06.880 --> 0:25:09.320
<v Speaker 7>you look at Dak Prescott, but really, at the end

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<v Speaker 7>of the day, if you tell me that it's going

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<v Speaker 7>to be musical chairs. Again on the offensive line, I

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<v Speaker 7>don't understand how anybody can expect you to be, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>the best offense or one of the top five offenses.

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<v Speaker 7>If you just constantly always have a new five that

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<v Speaker 7>are out there, I think I think people would really

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<v Speaker 7>be surprised at the trickle down that would come if

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<v Speaker 7>you could have those same five starting for an extended

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<v Speaker 7>period of time. Just how many other things that would

0:25:33.320 --> 0:25:35.440
<v Speaker 7>open up? I mean, doing you wrong man covering Like

0:25:35.480 --> 0:25:38.480
<v Speaker 7>those fourteen you know, sixteen teams, they had great offensive

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<v Speaker 7>lines of like they still most for the most part,

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<v Speaker 7>they stayed relatively healthy. You were able to have some

0:25:42.960 --> 0:25:46.399
<v Speaker 7>cohesion there, and so offensive line kind of gets thrown,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, especially this time of year.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, the back.

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<v Speaker 6>But it's such a big key to it.

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<v Speaker 7>If you can tell me that they're going to have

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<v Speaker 7>that five, I think everything else falls into place.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that your biggest area of concern, Nick, all terms

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<v Speaker 1>of the offensive line, as far as the offense, in

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<v Speaker 1>just as far as the roster and in a role

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<v Speaker 1>because I think for me it would be mine. I

0:26:02.840 --> 0:26:05.480
<v Speaker 1>would say so because I mean, of course Zach Martin

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<v Speaker 1>not reporting, that's that's a huge deal. But that's gonna

0:26:08.280 --> 0:26:10.120
<v Speaker 1>work itself out, you would hope at some point down

0:26:10.160 --> 0:26:13.760
<v Speaker 1>the line. But the health, just the rotation that they've

0:26:13.800 --> 0:26:16.399
<v Speaker 1>had is not something that is conducive to winning. And

0:26:16.640 --> 0:26:20.000
<v Speaker 1>Mike McCarthy's even said that significantly these last couple of years.

0:26:20.040 --> 0:26:22.639
<v Speaker 1>So I think I look at it and I'm saying, okay,

0:26:22.680 --> 0:26:25.160
<v Speaker 1>cornerback check. We feel really good about the death and

0:26:25.200 --> 0:26:28.440
<v Speaker 1>the top end quarterbacks. Same thing with wide receiver running back,

0:26:28.480 --> 0:26:30.840
<v Speaker 1>even without Ezekiel Elliott. I feel good about the running

0:26:30.840 --> 0:26:33.520
<v Speaker 1>back room. But then you get to the offensive line

0:26:33.520 --> 0:26:36.040
<v Speaker 1>and you got some questions. Yeah, and that's that's where

0:26:36.040 --> 0:26:37.400
<v Speaker 1>I have a little bit of worry.

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<v Speaker 8>Me And you were talking about it yesterday. I think

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<v Speaker 8>the key factor to the entire offense being able to

0:26:42.080 --> 0:26:45.320
<v Speaker 8>succeed as Tyron Smith staying healthy, because if he gets hurt,

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<v Speaker 8>then that throws everything in disarray. You know, you said,

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<v Speaker 8>if Tyler Smith gets hurt, we feel like there's a

0:26:50.040 --> 0:26:51.720
<v Speaker 8>guy that can come in and be that replacement and

0:26:52.160 --> 0:26:54.040
<v Speaker 8>you know, not play up to the level of Tyler Smith,

0:26:54.080 --> 0:26:56.200
<v Speaker 8>but be able to play left guard and be all right.

0:26:56.640 --> 0:26:58.400
<v Speaker 8>Terrence Steele he went down last year, they were able

0:26:58.440 --> 0:27:01.280
<v Speaker 8>to figure it out. So Tyron Smith going down, that's

0:27:01.280 --> 0:27:03.000
<v Speaker 8>when you start moving a lot of guys around, That's

0:27:03.040 --> 0:27:05.159
<v Speaker 8>when you start, you know, getting dis rhythm. And I

0:27:05.160 --> 0:27:07.000
<v Speaker 8>think that's that's gonna be the key factor here. He

0:27:07.040 --> 0:27:09.040
<v Speaker 8>hasn't played a full season in a while. I don't

0:27:09.040 --> 0:27:11.200
<v Speaker 8>think he's played more than ten games in a while

0:27:11.280 --> 0:27:13.280
<v Speaker 8>as well, So just being able to keep him on

0:27:13.280 --> 0:27:15.320
<v Speaker 8>the field, especially as the season goes on, that's gonna

0:27:15.320 --> 0:27:16.080
<v Speaker 8>be really important.

0:27:16.119 --> 0:27:19.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm interested, John two. I mean, they got three guys

0:27:19.040 --> 0:27:21.960
<v Speaker 1>you mentioned, all three of them, Terrence Steel, Tyron Smith,

0:27:22.080 --> 0:27:24.760
<v Speaker 1>Tyler Smith, that are all tackles first. I mean, that's

0:27:24.760 --> 0:27:27.960
<v Speaker 1>where they're comfortable playing. I wonder if Terrence were to

0:27:28.040 --> 0:27:30.439
<v Speaker 1>go down, or if Tyron goes down, if it just

0:27:30.480 --> 0:27:33.000
<v Speaker 1>automatically sets off a domino reaction and then the only

0:27:33.040 --> 0:27:35.520
<v Speaker 1>two guys that are set in stone are Tyler Biadash

0:27:35.520 --> 0:27:39.240
<v Speaker 1>at center and Zach Martin at right guard whenever he returns. So,

0:27:39.800 --> 0:27:42.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think either way, if one of those

0:27:42.320 --> 0:27:47.080
<v Speaker 1>guys goes down anywhere, there might be some shifting in involved. Regardless.

0:27:47.480 --> 0:27:50.159
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, Terrence Steele going down would be interesting because, like,

0:27:50.320 --> 0:27:52.720
<v Speaker 7>especially why we're out here right now, this is this

0:27:52.760 --> 0:27:54.359
<v Speaker 7>is a big time a year for Matt will let's go,

0:27:54.400 --> 0:27:56.800
<v Speaker 7>because if he can show, hey, you can count on him.

0:27:57.359 --> 0:28:00.320
<v Speaker 7>Then if Terrence Steele was was you know, was missing

0:28:00.359 --> 0:28:02.520
<v Speaker 7>time or you had to move some things around, you'd

0:28:02.520 --> 0:28:06.560
<v Speaker 7>feel good about that. But if you have questions about, well,

0:28:06.600 --> 0:28:08.000
<v Speaker 7>let's go, then that's where I think it goes back

0:28:08.000 --> 0:28:08.400
<v Speaker 7>to what he said.

0:28:08.440 --> 0:28:09.320
<v Speaker 6>Then it's musical chairs.

0:28:09.320 --> 0:28:12.000
<v Speaker 7>Then Tyron Smith's going over to right, Tyler Smith's going

0:28:12.040 --> 0:28:13.119
<v Speaker 7>out to laugh, you know, and.

0:28:13.960 --> 0:28:14.560
<v Speaker 1>You don't want that.

0:28:14.720 --> 0:28:17.280
<v Speaker 7>You want to be able to keep some continuity there.

0:28:17.320 --> 0:28:20.359
<v Speaker 7>I mean, having all five healthy all season might be

0:28:20.400 --> 0:28:22.840
<v Speaker 7>a little unrealistic, but at least have three or four.

0:28:22.800 --> 0:28:24.960
<v Speaker 8>You know, especially for a running game that's going to

0:28:25.000 --> 0:28:26.719
<v Speaker 8>be you know, needing to get in that rhythm very

0:28:26.760 --> 0:28:28.800
<v Speaker 8>early on behind Tony Pollard and being able to have

0:28:28.840 --> 0:28:31.520
<v Speaker 8>the same front five up there, that's gonna help tremendously

0:28:31.520 --> 0:28:32.040
<v Speaker 8>in that area.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man, that offensive line worries me at times. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>because you have so much excitement around the guys that

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<v Speaker 1>we're just talking about with with Jalen and even Michael Gallup,

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<v Speaker 1>who's looked good in the short amount of time that

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<v Speaker 1>we've seen him coming back from injury and having that

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<v Speaker 1>fully healthy offseason. I think you need that offensive line

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<v Speaker 1>to really step up and to be solid. Now, do

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<v Speaker 1>you feel better about the depth at the offensive line

0:28:57.240 --> 0:28:59.000
<v Speaker 1>this year? You mentioned what Matt Will, let's go, Josh

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<v Speaker 1>Balls getting snow it right guard, you feel better about

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<v Speaker 1>the offensive line depth this time around that you did

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<v Speaker 1>at the same point last year.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't think I do. I just need to. I

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<v Speaker 6>just again, that's one of the good things about being

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<v Speaker 6>out here.

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<v Speaker 7>And then the other part is just the preseason games

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<v Speaker 7>that I know can be a beating for people sometimes,

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<v Speaker 7>but there's just a lot of pieces on this team

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<v Speaker 7>that have me looking forward to the preseason to get

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<v Speaker 7>to see, you know, Josh Ball a little bit more

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<v Speaker 7>in pads and Matt Will let's go guys like potentially

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<v Speaker 7>playing with the ones because you're not gonna be throwing

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<v Speaker 7>Tyronsmith out there in preseason games.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm excited to see Awesome Richards. Yeah, because absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>sure for somebody that I mean, we've we've talked a

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<v Speaker 1>lot about, well, let's go in ball, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>Awesome Richards as a draft pick, we kind of forget

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<v Speaker 1>about him, and we will because they haven't put pads on,

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<v Speaker 1>yet it's not significant enough to really say, Okay, these

0:29:43.600 --> 0:29:46.000
<v Speaker 1>trenches are getting great work in They're they're mostly working

0:29:46.000 --> 0:29:48.520
<v Speaker 1>fundamental and footwork at the moment. But once they put

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<v Speaker 1>the pads on, I hope he starts to shine and

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<v Speaker 1>starts to take a stuff for me.

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<v Speaker 7>Keep given the benefit of doubt to Mike McCarthy too,

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<v Speaker 7>because of the fact that, you know, if you're on Twitter,

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<v Speaker 7>it seems like people want to write off Josh Ball

0:29:59.600 --> 0:30:01.800
<v Speaker 7>or Matt I haven't seen anything right away, but like

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<v Speaker 7>if you look at his track Mike McCarthy's track record

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<v Speaker 7>in Green Pay, they found a lot of outstanding value

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<v Speaker 7>in like the third or fifth rounds in the offensive line.

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<v Speaker 7>So because of that, I'm just kind of in the heck.

0:30:12.240 --> 0:30:13.960
<v Speaker 7>I mean, since he's been with the Cowboys that Darren

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<v Speaker 7>Steele was an undrafted guy. So because of this, I'm

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<v Speaker 7>just like, you gotta be kind of patient, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>like it could click for one of these guys and

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<v Speaker 7>then all of a sudden you have a really good

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<v Speaker 7>offensive lineman that you didn't have to you know, invest

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<v Speaker 7>a ton in. But that's what that's been missing. They've

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<v Speaker 7>been missing that piece to be able to step up.

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<v Speaker 7>So maybe this is the off season or preseason whatever that, well,

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<v Speaker 7>let's go or ball step up.

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<v Speaker 8>And I will say I I haven't seen much from

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<v Speaker 8>him personally, but Steven Jones has talked up Chemii Dooga

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<v Speaker 8>at least twice in a public see before, so you

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<v Speaker 8>know that might be a name from the front office

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<v Speaker 8>to keep an eye on.

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<v Speaker 1>Once we get pads on, I think we'll get a

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<v Speaker 1>better idea too. It's so tough and even yesterday, absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>there was one point when Mazzie Smith was on his

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<v Speaker 1>on his backside at camp and it's like, Okay, everybody's

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<v Speaker 1>looking at it. Everybody's looking at Mahazi. They're like, why

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<v Speaker 1>is he on his back? Like there's no pads. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>let's not get carried away just yet. Yeah, he probably

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<v Speaker 1>needs to stay up off the ground a little bit more,

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<v Speaker 1>but as a first round nose tackle that's supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>do that, I think he needs to get up a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit. But man, I'm excited to see this offensive

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<v Speaker 1>line fully healthy. Let's just let's put it out there

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<v Speaker 1>in the air all season long. We're not gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>a single injury. We're gonna make it work. Okay, we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna we're gonna manifest this. But when we come back

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<v Speaker 1>here on Talking Cowboys, we do need to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the guys who aren't healthy going into training camp, and

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<v Speaker 1>we did have a couple injuries here on day one.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe some updates coming here in a minute with Mike McCarthy,

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<v Speaker 1>but we'll talk about what we know when we return

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<v Speaker 1>of Talking Cowboys, episode one of the twenty three season.

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<v Speaker 1>Excited to be back and I love doing the show

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<v Speaker 1>every single year. Loved Talking to Cowboys Nation, and we've

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<v Speaker 1>got John Mitchota, We've got Nick Harris. Our next show,

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<v Speaker 1>we will have Isaiah Stanbacks. We're gonna have the full

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<v Speaker 1>crew up here for the first time. I'm Kyle Yeomans,

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<v Speaker 1>and we did get to see practice number one. We're

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<v Speaker 1>preparing for practice number two behind us, but we saw

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<v Speaker 1>a pair of safeties go down for the Cowboys. Donovan Wilson,

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<v Speaker 1>Israel Mukuamu, I mean John. Both of those guys were

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<v Speaker 1>expected to do good things this year. Of course, Donovan

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<v Speaker 1>Wilson got a brand new deal, excited to bring him back,

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<v Speaker 1>and then all of a sudden he may miss some time.

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<v Speaker 1>But overall, how does this impact the safety room with

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<v Speaker 1>both of those guys leaving in day one?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, you don't want that, but I will say they're

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<v Speaker 7>in a much better situation than they were three four

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<v Speaker 7>years ago.

0:35:13.760 --> 0:35:14.680
<v Speaker 6>I wrote a story.

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<v Speaker 7>About how not not only did the Cowboys have like

0:35:18.480 --> 0:35:22.080
<v Speaker 7>the lowest investment at the safety position in the division,

0:35:22.120 --> 0:35:24.239
<v Speaker 7>it was the entire NFL. And so they are more

0:35:24.280 --> 0:35:26.319
<v Speaker 7>equipped now than ever. This is the best safety group

0:35:26.320 --> 0:35:29.879
<v Speaker 7>since I've covered the team, for sure, and so I mean,

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<v Speaker 7>it sucks to lose those guys.

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<v Speaker 6>I think Donovan Wilson. It's being reported four.

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<v Speaker 7>To six weeks, so should be back for the opener,

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<v Speaker 7>which is obviously that's the number one thing that you

0:35:40.719 --> 0:35:45.000
<v Speaker 7>care about there, Mukuamu with the hamstring. I don't know

0:35:45.120 --> 0:35:48.040
<v Speaker 7>the severity of that, but I just feel like they're

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<v Speaker 7>kind of in a good spot because of Marquise Bell,

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<v Speaker 7>who immediately jumped out in there and just you know,

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<v Speaker 7>and talking to people.

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<v Speaker 6>They're just very high in Marquis Bell and what he

0:35:56.719 --> 0:35:57.080
<v Speaker 6>can do.

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<v Speaker 7>And so because you have you known curse already back

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<v Speaker 7>there and you have Malie Hooker, it just it sucks.

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<v Speaker 7>But it's a position where they can afford it a

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<v Speaker 7>little bit more than maybe some other positions. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, this is the time of year when you

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<v Speaker 7>just you hate to be out there watching practice. I know,

0:36:13.680 --> 0:36:15.359
<v Speaker 7>you guys are doing a show live or next thing,

0:36:15.400 --> 0:36:17.799
<v Speaker 7>you know, there's someone in the cart. You just never

0:36:17.800 --> 0:36:19.799
<v Speaker 7>want to see the cart, you know, because you never

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<v Speaker 7>know the severity of it.

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<v Speaker 6>You don't know if it's.

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<v Speaker 7>Something you know that could be just a couple of weeks,

0:36:23.600 --> 0:36:25.960
<v Speaker 7>or it's something that ends the season. And so fortunately

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<v Speaker 7>it doesn't sound like it's anything like that, but you

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<v Speaker 7>don't want to lose anybody. Also, I need to add

0:36:32.200 --> 0:36:33.840
<v Speaker 7>in there. We were just talking about this during one

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<v Speaker 7>of the breaks, that this is the best that these

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<v Speaker 7>practice fields have looked. So for anybody that's out there

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<v Speaker 7>thinking like, oh, maybe it's just they're playing on some

0:36:41.360 --> 0:36:43.799
<v Speaker 7>bad fields, that's not the case. I mean, these are

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<v Speaker 7>top shape. There's been some times I've been out here

0:36:46.280 --> 0:36:48.040
<v Speaker 7>where I was like, man, it's kind of rough out here,

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<v Speaker 7>especially after a first couple of practices. These are the

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<v Speaker 7>best the fields have looked, and you would rather the

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<v Speaker 7>guys be this time of year beyond grass too.

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<v Speaker 1>I heard a rumor, just a rumor, but apparently somebody

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<v Speaker 1>came in from that does World Cup pitch the pitch

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<v Speaker 1>for soccer. They come in and they've redone this whole field,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I mean, for the most part, it's immaculate

0:37:08.560 --> 0:37:10.640
<v Speaker 1>out there. We were, I mean, Nick Harris and I

0:37:10.640 --> 0:37:13.040
<v Speaker 1>if you saw it on Cowboys stories on the Cowboys. Now,

0:37:13.080 --> 0:37:16.040
<v Speaker 1>app we're playing playing catch baseball. Wise, we'll have to

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<v Speaker 1>join us at some point. We'll get I got an

0:37:17.680 --> 0:37:19.520
<v Speaker 1>extra glove we brought it. Don't worry, you're good. But

0:37:20.120 --> 0:37:22.720
<v Speaker 1>we were playing catch out there, and it's it's almost

0:37:22.760 --> 0:37:26.319
<v Speaker 1>like a fair way or a green like it's incredibly

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<v Speaker 1>taken care of. So I agree with you. I think

0:37:28.160 --> 0:37:30.359
<v Speaker 1>that's a great point to add that these guys going

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<v Speaker 1>down it's not because of the playing surface. It's it's

0:37:32.360 --> 0:37:35.920
<v Speaker 1>a legitimate thing. But also I'm sure for these players

0:37:35.920 --> 0:37:39.400
<v Speaker 1>it's it's that security blanket for themselves personally saying okay,

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<v Speaker 1>like we can be steady and where we're putting our

0:37:42.400 --> 0:37:44.640
<v Speaker 1>feet and where we're doing this footwork and where we're

0:37:44.640 --> 0:37:46.799
<v Speaker 1>going through these drills, because sometimes if you are on

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<v Speaker 1>an uneven playing surface, you don't get that same level

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<v Speaker 1>of work.

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<v Speaker 8>In I will say I think at least from the

0:37:52.239 --> 0:37:54.680
<v Speaker 8>early impressions from these two injuries, I don't think either

0:37:54.719 --> 0:37:56.480
<v Speaker 8>of them are going to carry into the season. So

0:37:57.040 --> 0:37:59.200
<v Speaker 8>you know, getting getting experienced for these guys in the

0:37:59.239 --> 0:38:01.759
<v Speaker 8>depth of that room that can only help, especially in

0:38:01.800 --> 0:38:02.440
<v Speaker 8>the preseason.

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<v Speaker 9>You know, we might see a guy.

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<v Speaker 8>That plays all four quarters, so you know, a guy

0:38:06.040 --> 0:38:09.040
<v Speaker 8>like Marquispell that this is gonna be very valuable experience

0:38:09.080 --> 0:38:10.759
<v Speaker 8>for him and being able to step in and you

0:38:10.800 --> 0:38:12.759
<v Speaker 8>know he's kind of a verstle defensive back anyway, so

0:38:12.800 --> 0:38:14.560
<v Speaker 8>he could kind of fill in multiple spots and have

0:38:14.640 --> 0:38:15.320
<v Speaker 8>that experience.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of comparisons whenever he was picked up last

0:38:18.239 --> 0:38:20.719
<v Speaker 1>year as a undrafted free agent, was Jayron Curse. I mean,

0:38:20.760 --> 0:38:22.719
<v Speaker 1>he's got some size to him, He's above six foot,

0:38:22.960 --> 0:38:26.200
<v Speaker 1>he's athletic, he can make the coverage plays like jay

0:38:26.280 --> 0:38:28.759
<v Speaker 1>Ron can against tight ends. But can he come in

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<v Speaker 1>and play that over the top safety look like we've

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<v Speaker 1>seen from Donovan Wilson that enforce a role where he's

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<v Speaker 1>able to come down into the box every now and again.

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<v Speaker 6>That's a good question. I think we got to find

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<v Speaker 6>out a little bit more.

0:38:39.280 --> 0:38:42.239
<v Speaker 7>But yeah, he helped get every opportunity now because even

0:38:42.280 --> 0:38:45.400
<v Speaker 7>when those guys come back, they're gonna be careful with them, sure,

0:38:45.440 --> 0:38:47.600
<v Speaker 7>and so if you're well, you got to be loving

0:38:47.640 --> 0:38:50.640
<v Speaker 7>this opportunity to run with the ones and get a

0:38:50.719 --> 0:38:52.399
<v Speaker 7>chance to go against you know.

0:38:53.160 --> 0:38:54.760
<v Speaker 6>A really good wide receiver crew.

0:38:55.880 --> 0:38:58.799
<v Speaker 7>So, I mean, I don't know for sure, but he's

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<v Speaker 7>gonna get ever opportunity to find out.

0:39:00.880 --> 0:39:02.640
<v Speaker 8>And there's a lot of defensive backs in this room

0:39:02.640 --> 0:39:04.880
<v Speaker 8>that are versatile. I mean, that's what dan Quinn preaches,

0:39:04.920 --> 0:39:06.680
<v Speaker 8>and I think being able to kind of play into

0:39:06.680 --> 0:39:09.080
<v Speaker 8>that versatility as much as possible moving some guys that

0:39:09.120 --> 0:39:10.920
<v Speaker 8>are more comfortable with Nickel and maybe get them some

0:39:10.960 --> 0:39:13.800
<v Speaker 8>safety time. Again, it can only help in the long run.

0:39:14.040 --> 0:39:17.160
<v Speaker 1>With Donovan Wilson signing the new deal. And then you

0:39:17.200 --> 0:39:20.799
<v Speaker 1>have Israel mcwhamoo, who of course is fighting for rotational

0:39:20.880 --> 0:39:23.560
<v Speaker 1>purposes and fighting to try and stay on the roster

0:39:23.600 --> 0:39:26.000
<v Speaker 1>and stay relevant, not that he was necessarily on the

0:39:26.000 --> 0:39:29.520
<v Speaker 1>cut line. Who do you think needed this camp more?

0:39:29.800 --> 0:39:31.600
<v Speaker 1>And I'll even throw in a couple extra names, a

0:39:31.600 --> 0:39:33.680
<v Speaker 1>couple of Michigan guys, Jordan Lewis who will start the

0:39:33.719 --> 0:39:36.719
<v Speaker 1>season on pupp the Physically unable to perform list. And

0:39:36.760 --> 0:39:39.600
<v Speaker 1>then you've got Luke Schoonmaker, the rookie second round pick

0:39:39.880 --> 0:39:42.880
<v Speaker 1>at tight end who will start with the NFI and

0:39:43.320 --> 0:39:45.840
<v Speaker 1>dealing with a foot injury. Out of those four players,

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<v Speaker 1>Israel mcwamu, Donovan Wilson, j Jordan Lewis, and Luke Schoomaker

0:39:50.160 --> 0:39:53.879
<v Speaker 1>who needed a full camp of work more to try

0:39:53.880 --> 0:39:55.520
<v Speaker 1>and make an impact on this football.

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<v Speaker 9>Team, I think we might have the same answer. We'll

0:39:56.640 --> 0:39:57.000
<v Speaker 9>let you go.

0:39:57.120 --> 0:40:02.399
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, for me, it's not even closed. It's Luke Schoonmaker, Okay, Yeah?

0:40:02.480 --> 0:40:05.520
<v Speaker 7>Why is that just because you don't have Dalton Schultz anymore,

0:40:05.840 --> 0:40:09.279
<v Speaker 7>and he if he's out there for every single thing

0:40:09.520 --> 0:40:12.480
<v Speaker 7>and uh contributing and he's on the same page with

0:40:12.560 --> 0:40:14.680
<v Speaker 7>Dak Prescott, he's got a chance to get a ton

0:40:14.960 --> 0:40:17.840
<v Speaker 7>of playing time. And for the others, like for like

0:40:17.920 --> 0:40:19.600
<v Speaker 7>Jordan Lewis, I just look at him as a guy

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<v Speaker 7>that he's a veteran, Like it's kind of like the

0:40:22.000 --> 0:40:22.719
<v Speaker 7>Zach Martin thing.

0:40:22.719 --> 0:40:24.680
<v Speaker 6>I understand, Like, you know when you show.

0:40:24.560 --> 0:40:26.080
<v Speaker 7>Up here and people like Zach Martin's not there, Like

0:40:26.080 --> 0:40:27.400
<v Speaker 7>this guy's falling and I'm just kind of sitting there

0:40:27.440 --> 0:40:30.919
<v Speaker 7>and like guys like when it matters, he'll be here.

0:40:30.960 --> 0:40:32.200
<v Speaker 6>It's not it's not just the money.

0:40:32.239 --> 0:40:34.439
<v Speaker 7>I feel like it's also his bond with this team

0:40:34.480 --> 0:40:36.799
<v Speaker 7>and stuff like that, like when the when the games matter,

0:40:36.880 --> 0:40:39.360
<v Speaker 7>he'll be here. Like So that's kind of how I

0:40:39.400 --> 0:40:42.320
<v Speaker 7>feel about Jordan Lewis. He's a veteran and and everything

0:40:42.320 --> 0:40:45.120
<v Speaker 7>will He'll figure everything out. But the Luke Scoomaker thing

0:40:45.239 --> 0:40:47.399
<v Speaker 7>just makes me think of of Jalen Tolbert last year.

0:40:47.400 --> 0:40:49.440
<v Speaker 7>You know, we we were in the OTAs in mini camp.

0:40:49.840 --> 0:40:51.680
<v Speaker 7>He's dealing with I think was a foot.

0:40:51.719 --> 0:40:52.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think you had a little bit of a

0:40:52.920 --> 0:40:53.319
<v Speaker 1>foot all.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, and just I don't know when you're a rookie

0:40:55.520 --> 0:40:57.399
<v Speaker 7>like that, especially in the spot where like you can

0:40:57.400 --> 0:41:01.200
<v Speaker 7>come in right away and possible win a starting job,

0:41:01.360 --> 0:41:04.360
<v Speaker 7>you know that that that's a little bit of alarming.

0:41:04.360 --> 0:41:05.800
<v Speaker 7>And then there's a little bit of an injury history

0:41:05.800 --> 0:41:08.440
<v Speaker 7>there too with him. And then I also think just

0:41:08.480 --> 0:41:11.320
<v Speaker 7>because of the style that he is coming from playing

0:41:11.360 --> 0:41:14.279
<v Speaker 7>in college, that he translates that if he's out here,

0:41:14.280 --> 0:41:15.600
<v Speaker 7>I think he could hit the ground running.

0:41:15.640 --> 0:41:17.200
<v Speaker 9>So that's very valid.

0:41:17.200 --> 0:41:18.680
<v Speaker 8>But I feel like the leash is a lot longer

0:41:18.680 --> 0:41:20.880
<v Speaker 8>for Luke just because obviously he's coming in as a rookie,

0:41:20.880 --> 0:41:23.080
<v Speaker 8>whereas Jordan Lewis, I feel like that leash is much

0:41:23.239 --> 0:41:26.240
<v Speaker 8>much shorter. You know, Dern Bland came in last year, wow,

0:41:26.280 --> 0:41:29.360
<v Speaker 8>wowed everybody, and you know, now now there's a competition

0:41:29.480 --> 0:41:31.719
<v Speaker 8>there and you know Jordan needs to it needs to

0:41:31.719 --> 0:41:35.120
<v Speaker 8>be on the field showing, showing his value. So my

0:41:35.200 --> 0:41:36.960
<v Speaker 8>answer would be Jordan Lewis just because I feel like

0:41:36.960 --> 0:41:39.400
<v Speaker 8>there's a sense of urgency there now, whereas with Schoonmaker,

0:41:39.440 --> 0:41:41.080
<v Speaker 8>I don't feel like the urgency really needs to be

0:41:41.120 --> 0:41:44.120
<v Speaker 8>there necessarily granted being able to come in rookie and

0:41:44.280 --> 0:41:47.080
<v Speaker 8>win a starting job. Definitely, that would be fantastic for him.

0:41:47.120 --> 0:41:48.920
<v Speaker 8>And this is his best opportunity to do that, and

0:41:48.960 --> 0:41:50.440
<v Speaker 8>the earlier he can get on the field is the

0:41:50.440 --> 0:41:51.080
<v Speaker 8>best way he can.

0:41:51.320 --> 0:41:53.480
<v Speaker 1>So do you think Jordan Lewis, I mean, with the

0:41:53.560 --> 0:41:56.839
<v Speaker 1>addition of Bland into the mix, and then I mean

0:41:56.840 --> 0:41:59.120
<v Speaker 1>there's no Anthony Brown at training camp this year either

0:41:59.360 --> 0:42:03.040
<v Speaker 1>you bring in another corner in Eric Scott Junior, you

0:42:03.040 --> 0:42:06.400
<v Speaker 1>think he's at least on that that watch of I

0:42:06.440 --> 0:42:08.920
<v Speaker 1>need to be on the practice field to make this team.

0:42:08.960 --> 0:42:12.400
<v Speaker 8>And to talking about Jordan Lewis, yeah, I think as

0:42:12.400 --> 0:42:14.520
<v Speaker 8>far as making the team, it's just as far as

0:42:14.640 --> 0:42:16.959
<v Speaker 8>you know, if Deron Bland gets that starting nod week

0:42:17.000 --> 0:42:19.080
<v Speaker 8>one and he picks up right where he left off

0:42:19.160 --> 0:42:20.200
<v Speaker 8>last year, why.

0:42:20.120 --> 0:42:21.360
<v Speaker 9>Do you fix it if it's not broken?

0:42:21.440 --> 0:42:21.640
<v Speaker 1>You know?

0:42:21.760 --> 0:42:23.839
<v Speaker 8>So I think that's kind of how you look at

0:42:23.840 --> 0:42:25.880
<v Speaker 8>it from a coaching staff perspective. I don't think his

0:42:26.000 --> 0:42:28.719
<v Speaker 8>roster spots in jeopardy by any means, but his his

0:42:28.800 --> 0:42:30.240
<v Speaker 8>starting job's definitely in jeopardy.

0:42:30.320 --> 0:42:33.320
<v Speaker 1>And John, you talked about well Scoot Luke scooonmaker and

0:42:33.560 --> 0:42:35.200
<v Speaker 1>getting off to a hot start. I mean if he's

0:42:35.280 --> 0:42:39.360
<v Speaker 1>if he's fighting for a starting job against Jake Ferguson

0:42:39.400 --> 0:42:41.680
<v Speaker 1>and Peyton Endershot, that's one thing, But it sounds like

0:42:41.800 --> 0:42:45.760
<v Speaker 1>from a veteran standpoint, Jordan Lewis coming in, he's fighting

0:42:45.800 --> 0:42:48.880
<v Speaker 1>for a starting spot with a younger player than he is,

0:42:48.920 --> 0:42:51.640
<v Speaker 1>and so it's kind of an interesting one too. One

0:42:51.680 --> 0:42:53.920
<v Speaker 1>of them is the rookie trying to establish himself, the

0:42:54.160 --> 0:42:56.400
<v Speaker 1>other one is the veteran trying to stay established. So

0:42:56.400 --> 0:42:59.080
<v Speaker 1>both of the answers are certainly valid. I'm I'm kind

0:42:59.120 --> 0:43:01.200
<v Speaker 1>of torn in in the middle of it, though, because

0:43:01.719 --> 0:43:04.080
<v Speaker 1>Jordan Lewis, if he were playing at the level of

0:43:04.160 --> 0:43:06.640
<v Speaker 1>Trayvon Diggs, that's one thing, and having a bit of

0:43:06.680 --> 0:43:08.560
<v Speaker 1>an injury and then he's gonna be fine. He'll come back.

0:43:08.600 --> 0:43:11.080
<v Speaker 1>That starting spots his no matter what. I don't know

0:43:11.160 --> 0:43:14.840
<v Speaker 1>if you can necessarily say he was playing that level

0:43:14.840 --> 0:43:17.560
<v Speaker 1>of football that at the point where he got hurt.

0:43:17.560 --> 0:43:20.240
<v Speaker 1>I know he got hurt on an interception, but yeah,

0:43:20.280 --> 0:43:22.440
<v Speaker 1>going into it, it was kind of an interesting timing

0:43:22.480 --> 0:43:23.120
<v Speaker 1>of the whole deal.

0:43:23.560 --> 0:43:26.359
<v Speaker 6>So I would probably feel a little bit different about that.

0:43:26.640 --> 0:43:30.000
<v Speaker 7>If let's say Dan Quinn took a head coaching job

0:43:30.040 --> 0:43:33.279
<v Speaker 7>this past offseason, okay, but because he's back, I just

0:43:33.960 --> 0:43:36.279
<v Speaker 7>he's been great with moving guys around, using him in

0:43:36.280 --> 0:43:38.920
<v Speaker 7>different roles, and just with Jordan Lewis, I know that

0:43:39.160 --> 0:43:41.480
<v Speaker 7>dan Quinn's a fan of his. The way that he's

0:43:41.480 --> 0:43:43.560
<v Speaker 7>able to use him sometimes as a blitzer, I just

0:43:43.560 --> 0:43:46.480
<v Speaker 7>find like, yeah, with obviously, if Bland keeps playing well,

0:43:46.480 --> 0:43:47.680
<v Speaker 7>you're gonna have him out in the field. But I

0:43:47.719 --> 0:43:50.000
<v Speaker 7>just I find it I feel like dan Quinn's going

0:43:50.040 --> 0:43:51.600
<v Speaker 7>to find a way to get Jordan Lewis on the

0:43:51.600 --> 0:43:54.319
<v Speaker 7>field if he's healthy. He's a savvy veteran. He'll use

0:43:54.360 --> 0:43:56.880
<v Speaker 7>him in some different packages. But no question what you

0:43:56.920 --> 0:44:00.560
<v Speaker 7>said is I completely agree with on the around Blank

0:44:00.640 --> 0:44:02.000
<v Speaker 7>keeps playing like that, you can't take him off the

0:44:02.040 --> 0:44:05.239
<v Speaker 7>field and that will cut into Jordan Lewis's playing time absolutely.

0:44:05.320 --> 0:44:09.400
<v Speaker 6>But I don't know. Maybe maybe I'm just a bigger.

0:44:09.239 --> 0:44:11.360
<v Speaker 7>Jordan Lewis fan than others, but I think I just

0:44:11.360 --> 0:44:15.120
<v Speaker 7>think he's he brings like intangibles that you know in

0:44:15.160 --> 0:44:17.120
<v Speaker 7>the locker room on the field, and then he just

0:44:17.120 --> 0:44:20.839
<v Speaker 7>can do a variety of things, not just as as

0:44:20.840 --> 0:44:23.160
<v Speaker 7>a dB, but also you know, playing downhill and stuff

0:44:23.200 --> 0:44:23.480
<v Speaker 7>like that.

0:44:23.600 --> 0:44:26.080
<v Speaker 6>So I think that they'll be some type of a

0:44:26.200 --> 0:44:26.680
<v Speaker 6>role for him.

0:44:26.760 --> 0:44:30.399
<v Speaker 1>Yep, it'll be certainly interesting. Now before we wrap up

0:44:30.640 --> 0:44:33.960
<v Speaker 1>on our first talking Cowboys will be back on Monday.

0:44:34.000 --> 0:44:37.879
<v Speaker 1>By the way, nine am Pacific time, eleven am Central time,

0:44:37.920 --> 0:44:39.880
<v Speaker 1>Isaiah will join us. I want you to give me

0:44:39.920 --> 0:44:42.520
<v Speaker 1>one player to watch. One player you're watching on the

0:44:42.560 --> 0:44:47.000
<v Speaker 1>field non starter in training camp. Then I want everybody

0:44:47.000 --> 0:44:49.000
<v Speaker 1>that's listening to go and do their homework.

0:44:48.640 --> 0:44:51.080
<v Speaker 7>On It's funny because if they were about to be

0:44:51.120 --> 0:44:52.880
<v Speaker 7>in pads. The very first person I was going to

0:44:52.920 --> 0:44:56.080
<v Speaker 7>say was Mazi. Oh everybody, because doing these shows and

0:44:56.120 --> 0:44:58.799
<v Speaker 7>writing stories about this team, it's your first round pick,

0:44:58.800 --> 0:44:59.440
<v Speaker 7>and everybody.

0:44:59.160 --> 0:45:00.360
<v Speaker 6>Wants to know it was the first round pick, Like,

0:45:00.360 --> 0:45:01.440
<v Speaker 6>what's the first round pick look like?

0:45:01.600 --> 0:45:03.600
<v Speaker 7>Well, when you don't have pads on, it's hard to

0:45:03.640 --> 0:45:06.160
<v Speaker 7>really evaluate the defensive tackle. And then other part is

0:45:06.200 --> 0:45:08.080
<v Speaker 7>that you were hoping that Zach Meyer would be out

0:45:08.080 --> 0:45:11.439
<v Speaker 7>here going against him, and maybe that will eventually happen

0:45:11.520 --> 0:45:15.799
<v Speaker 7>sooner than later. But of a non starter. I hate

0:45:15.840 --> 0:45:17.600
<v Speaker 7>to just go back to Jalen Tolbert, but that's just

0:45:17.640 --> 0:45:20.440
<v Speaker 7>a player that coming in. I just I've really wanted

0:45:20.440 --> 0:45:22.120
<v Speaker 7>to see how he fits in because I think he

0:45:22.160 --> 0:45:26.560
<v Speaker 7>can have a pretty big role. But yeah, for me,

0:45:26.600 --> 0:45:28.760
<v Speaker 7>it's on the offense. It's it's a it's a Jalen Tolbert,

0:45:28.840 --> 0:45:32.759
<v Speaker 7>or it's any of those running backs behind Tony Poller.

0:45:32.840 --> 0:45:35.160
<v Speaker 8>Okay, yeah, absolute, I'm gonna give you one on each

0:45:35.200 --> 0:45:37.120
<v Speaker 8>side of the ball, and both are rookies. I'm gonna

0:45:37.120 --> 0:45:40.080
<v Speaker 8>start with Demarveon Overshown just because the linebacking corps.

0:45:40.120 --> 0:45:41.759
<v Speaker 9>I feel like there's an opportunity for him there.

0:45:41.880 --> 0:45:45.040
<v Speaker 8>He feels like there's an opportunity to start there coming

0:45:45.040 --> 0:45:47.640
<v Speaker 8>out of training camp. So to Marveon Overshown, you know,

0:45:47.680 --> 0:45:49.640
<v Speaker 8>he's he's got it. He's got it up here, and

0:45:50.000 --> 0:45:51.680
<v Speaker 8>you know the coaches have loved what he's been able

0:45:51.680 --> 0:45:53.239
<v Speaker 8>to bring to both the locker room and the field

0:45:53.320 --> 0:45:55.359
<v Speaker 8>so far. So definitely a guy I'm keeping an eye on.

0:45:55.640 --> 0:45:57.440
<v Speaker 8>And then I know I set it in our Camping

0:45:57.480 --> 0:46:00.279
<v Speaker 8>Out podcast, But Jalen Moreno Cropper, I think that is

0:46:00.320 --> 0:46:01.919
<v Speaker 8>a guy. By the end of training camp, we're gonna

0:46:01.920 --> 0:46:06.480
<v Speaker 8>start factoring into some conversations. So he's He's had a

0:46:06.480 --> 0:46:09.320
<v Speaker 8>lot of production at Fresno State. Fresno State has obviously

0:46:09.400 --> 0:46:11.480
<v Speaker 8>produced some fantastic receivers in the NFL.

0:46:11.760 --> 0:46:13.200
<v Speaker 9>I think I think he's going to be the next

0:46:13.200 --> 0:46:14.040
<v Speaker 9>in line.

0:46:15.120 --> 0:46:15.279
<v Speaker 1>Yet.

0:46:15.480 --> 0:46:17.440
<v Speaker 9>Phenomenal Day one, Phenomenal Day one.

0:46:17.600 --> 0:46:20.520
<v Speaker 1>You checked the boxes on day one. Uh to get

0:46:20.520 --> 0:46:22.640
<v Speaker 1>that done. By the way, Chris Beam had a phenomenal

0:46:22.640 --> 0:46:25.320
<v Speaker 1>shot of in the end zone. It's on Dallas Cowboys

0:46:25.400 --> 0:46:28.080
<v Speaker 1>social got all gamer in the back. He's not just

0:46:28.120 --> 0:46:30.920
<v Speaker 1>a podcast man, he's a camera man too. He does

0:46:31.000 --> 0:46:33.839
<v Speaker 1>it all. But yeah, no, it was a phenomenal, phenomenal catch,

0:46:33.920 --> 0:46:36.400
<v Speaker 1>drag both feet, it was no question touchdown. We went

0:46:36.480 --> 0:46:39.279
<v Speaker 1>under further review of Chris Beam's phenomenal shot. It was

0:46:39.320 --> 0:46:42.120
<v Speaker 1>a grab. So uh yeah. Excited to see what jaylen

0:46:42.200 --> 0:46:44.400
<v Speaker 1>moreno Cropper. It seems like every year there's an undrafted

0:46:44.400 --> 0:46:47.320
<v Speaker 1>free agent wide receiver that emerges. Last year Dennis Houston.

0:46:47.640 --> 0:46:50.480
<v Speaker 1>This year might be jayalen moreno Cropper. I'm gonna stick

0:46:50.520 --> 0:46:53.160
<v Speaker 1>with with who I said in the Camping Down podcast.

0:46:53.239 --> 0:46:55.959
<v Speaker 1>Both of these guys had great day ones. Eric Scott Junior,

0:46:55.960 --> 0:46:59.239
<v Speaker 1>who had the interception, had a couple of PBUs as

0:46:59.239 --> 0:47:01.360
<v Speaker 1>a rookie. I just think he has those intangibles. He

0:47:01.400 --> 0:47:04.840
<v Speaker 1>has at that athleticism that Dan Quinn loves and I

0:47:04.840 --> 0:47:07.239
<v Speaker 1>think even if he doesn't necessarily find his way into

0:47:07.280 --> 0:47:09.840
<v Speaker 1>the corner rotation, I think he'll be an impact player

0:47:09.880 --> 0:47:12.640
<v Speaker 1>on special teams and then on the offensive side. I'm

0:47:12.680 --> 0:47:18.120
<v Speaker 1>looking at tight end John Stevens from Louisiana LAFIATT. He's

0:47:18.120 --> 0:47:21.880
<v Speaker 1>an undrafted free agent. They call him stretch, and there's

0:47:21.920 --> 0:47:24.400
<v Speaker 1>two reasons for that. He's got some size he's above

0:47:24.440 --> 0:47:26.840
<v Speaker 1>six y three, but then he's also he can stretch

0:47:26.920 --> 0:47:28.760
<v Speaker 1>the field a little bit, so they call him stretch

0:47:28.840 --> 0:47:31.919
<v Speaker 1>within the locker room. So keep an eye on John

0:47:31.920 --> 0:47:34.680
<v Speaker 1>Stevens to see what he can do going into year

0:47:34.800 --> 0:47:37.320
<v Speaker 1>number one. But that's gonna do it. For episode one

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<v Speaker 1>of Talking Cowboys here in twenty twenty three, be sure

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<v Speaker 1>to join us on Monday for our next episode. For

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<v Speaker 1>John Machoda, Nick Harras, I'm Kyle Yellmis and for Chris

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<v Speaker 1>Monday for more Talking Cowboys.

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