Speaker 1: Toss Popcorn is a production of iHeartRadio. Hi, I'm Sienna
Speaker 1: Jacob and I'm Leanna Holsten, and welcome to Toss Popcorn,
Speaker 1: the podcast where two idiots watched every film on the
Speaker 1: AFI's one hundred Greatest American Movies of All Time, the
Speaker 1: very slightly less racist tenth Anniversary edition, and are now
Speaker 1: watching films that we choose that are now directed by women.
Speaker 2: This podcast is a safe fishing barge for people who
Speaker 2: don't know anything about movies. Today we are watching Coda.
Speaker 1: We're gonna Sell our own.
Speaker 2: Flesh, a film with lots of Oscar buzz around it.
Speaker 2: A couple of years ago, it was the thing warning
Speaker 2: there will be spoilers about this sweet film. All al right, okay, okay,
Speaker 2: oh Sienna, let's just blast through these predictions because I
Speaker 2: gotta get to hay girl.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 2: God, just here. Had you seen this before? No? I hadn't.
Speaker 2: Okay me neither, ok okay yours. First, we are so problematic.
Speaker 2: We don't see any of the groundbreaking films I know
Speaker 2: when they actually come out. We try to do mine first.
Speaker 1: Then we'll try and we'll see and then we're screwed.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, fuck up? Okay, okay, great, Ready we are
Speaker 2: the problem. Yes, Hi, Sienna's Leanna. I'm about to watch Coda.
Speaker 2: I've heard great things. I you know, I'm just not
Speaker 2: really in the mood to watch movie right now.
Speaker 1: But when am I ever?
Speaker 2: What else is new? I predict? I you know, apparently
Speaker 2: it's beautiful, So okay, it'll be that. Love you bye woo.
Speaker 1: Okay, Leanna my prediction.
Speaker 2: Yes, Hi, Leanna, this is Sienna.
Speaker 1: I'm about to watch duh. My mom really likes this
Speaker 1: movie and I've been waiting to watch it for forever,
Speaker 1: but I've never seen it. I know it's about the
Speaker 1: child of a deaf parent of a child of deaf adult?
Speaker 2: Is that actually what code means? Something like that?
Speaker 1: But I predict it will make me cry or at
Speaker 1: least cheer up. I guess I never say that.
Speaker 2: Oh yep, okay, he love be goodbye?
Speaker 1: Oh I think that's what that means.
Speaker 2: I knew it was a music symbol, and I was like,
Speaker 2: why is this the title of the fils A music
Speaker 2: an idiot? Oh? We are idiots? Okay, between the two
Speaker 2: of us, we oh okay, I almost understood not.
Speaker 1: To be rude, but that makes so much sense. Somebody
Speaker 1: found out about both those terms, and they're like, I
Speaker 1: gottam this movie. And also they're gonna be fishermen maybe
Speaker 1: because of well I've already seen your first note.
Speaker 2: But anyway, my perfect first note. Thank you, Leonna hay Girl.
Speaker 2: Hey girl, Well I guess i'll start.
Speaker 1: You got chastised at the post office.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I got chastised twice at the post
Speaker 2: office this I had to ship things internationally twice this week.
Speaker 2: One my brother's Christmas present to him because it finally
Speaker 2: arrived that those keeping tabs on the journey from Latvia
Speaker 2: to now California, although they shipped it through Los Angeles,
Speaker 2: so it's currently in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: The Latvia gift.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it might not get to him because it's in
Speaker 2: Los Angeles. And I went and I brought my little
Speaker 2: envelope and the items, and I went to the counter
Speaker 2: and I said, Hi, I need to ship this to
Speaker 2: California please, because I don't understand how the mail works,
Speaker 2: so I didn't know what I was supposed to put
Speaker 2: into what where. No, they were like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: you need to get away from the counter and write
Speaker 2: the address on this envelope and put everything in there
Speaker 2: and come back once all of that is done.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's why I'm asking.
Speaker 2: Well, all right, I also feel like maybe I could
Speaker 2: just write it down here and a way to really
Speaker 2: send me away, just so that you can sell some
Speaker 2: stamps to the next person. And it's not gonna take
Speaker 2: me that long, okay. And then today I had to
Speaker 2: ship some items for work and they had batteries in them,
Speaker 2: and I almost nearly got arrested. I mean, the reaction
Speaker 2: was such. I tried to use the self Kiosk, the
Speaker 2: self checkout area and was quickly chastised because apparently that's
Speaker 2: only for items being shipped within the UK. And I
Speaker 2: was like, and where was the sign for that? Please?
Speaker 2: And then I tried to put all of them in
Speaker 2: one envelope and they said, oh my god, you can't
Speaker 2: do that because they might all rub together and explode
Speaker 2: in the post together. Well, now, why.
Speaker 1: Are we the other had explode?
Speaker 2: They would repine. Sorry about that phrase there, I'm hearing
Speaker 2: it back now.
Speaker 1: Well they might there horny batteries, That's what they said
Speaker 1: to me.
Speaker 2: And I said okay, And then I'd written the return
Speaker 2: address on the envelope, and they were like, you can't
Speaker 2: write two addresses on one envelope because the scanner scans
Speaker 2: the first address it sees. And I at that point
Speaker 2: literally said out loud, well this is going terribly. That's
Speaker 2: what they want. And he said, yeah, it's not going great,
Speaker 2: and I said, well what am I?
Speaker 1: Okay? They have the mail? How could they ever have
Speaker 1: British comedy of things? There went, well, I feel like
Speaker 1: people need to be like, oh bother, oh bother, and
Speaker 1: I was very O bother. I was oh bother.
Speaker 2: But everything got mailed and I think it's all good. Well,
Speaker 2: the King's face is on a lot of pieces of
Speaker 2: mail now that I've sent this week, gosh, because I
Speaker 2: had to send today's stuff in multiple envelopes to avoid
Speaker 2: the battery is rubbing together and exploding.
Speaker 1: Enough with the King, Enough with the King.
Speaker 2: America seventeen seventy six. Enough with the King. We're over him.
Speaker 2: And that's been a big thing in my week. Dying Siena,
Speaker 2: Hey girl, you are not in Los Angeles County currently.
Speaker 1: I left Los Angeles because of the fires, the many fires,
Speaker 1: and I'm here in Orange County at my partner's parents place.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for housing us. All of a sudden,
Speaker 1: my house is safe. It is not burned up. There's
Speaker 1: lots of highway around. So as long as nothing goes
Speaker 1: God's danly wrong, it should be fine. But the problem
Speaker 1: with today's day and age and climate change is that
Speaker 1: things are happening differently than they ever have before. So
Speaker 1: you just can't count on anything. But yeah, flames. My
Speaker 1: house going up in flames, not a bit. The biggest
Speaker 1: thing that we're worried about, all good, Okay, okay, I
Speaker 1: think that's been really bad is air quality. That's why
Speaker 1: everybody had to because there's literally so much smoke. There
Speaker 1: was so much ash in the air. And it's not
Speaker 1: just forest fires. They keep talking about the forest fires,
Speaker 1: which is true, but it's not just forest fire smoke.
Speaker 1: It's property fires. So there's so much toxic stuff in
Speaker 1: the air. Oh wow, Yeah, I'm on the east side
Speaker 1: by the eaten fire. So here's what happened the other night. Also,
Speaker 1: if you're wondering, oh the stuff is happening in Los Angeles,
Speaker 1: I wonder if it's affecting the people. I know it
Speaker 1: almost certainly is, because it's happening on either side of
Speaker 1: Los Angeles. Almost everybody I know has evacuated for the
Speaker 1: last few days because the air quality is like horrible,
Speaker 1: horrible unless you can stay inside and you have a
Speaker 1: really good air, pure fire. If you have somewhere else
Speaker 1: to go, it's just safer to be gone. So Tuesday night,
Speaker 1: some actually Tuesday in the morning, my partner Kelsey, texted
Speaker 1: me a picture of this fire because he works really
Speaker 1: far on the west side, so he could see the
Speaker 1: Palisades from where he was, and he sent me this
Speaker 1: picture and I actually hearted it because I thought he
Speaker 1: was sending me a picture of the view, but in
Speaker 1: fact there was smoke that I didn't notice in the picture.
Speaker 1: And he said, you love the fire and I said, oh,
Speaker 1: I was wrong. Oh, And that was the first glimpse
Speaker 1: we saw of the fire. Is He's like, at this
Speaker 1: he was actually another museum for some work thing, and
Speaker 1: he was they could see it had a perfect view
Speaker 1: of just smoke coming up from the palisades, and he's like,
Speaker 1: it looks like there's a really bad fire there. So
Speaker 1: it keeps going on throughout the day and we get
Speaker 1: news updates that the Palisades are burning. We're like, that's
Speaker 1: really bad, and then it gets really, really really windy.
Speaker 1: The Santa Ana winds are hitting or some kind of winds.
Speaker 1: Tuesday night, it's so so so windy. It was so
Speaker 1: windy I was afraid and it was going to fall
Speaker 1: in my car. So I went outside to go move
Speaker 1: my car. So much stuff got in my eyes and
Speaker 1: the wind was so glowing so hard that I saw
Speaker 1: that I wasn't under a tree, and I just gave up.
Speaker 1: So I turned around. Kelsey is really near to that
Speaker 1: fire on the west or he looks near to me
Speaker 1: like the only thing between him and the fires is
Speaker 1: a bunch of trees, and he lives on one, in
Speaker 1: like a secluded area where there's just one street. So
Speaker 1: I text him and I'm like, please, please please come over,
Speaker 1: Please come over before a tree falls and you can't
Speaker 1: get out and something horrible happens. Please go now because
Speaker 1: it's so windy. And he took his damn sweet time
Speaker 1: stuff to get over, and I was so stressed. And
Speaker 1: he finally he drives over, but all the power's going out.
Speaker 1: My power never went out, but the power went out
Speaker 1: all across the city. He finally drives over. By the
Speaker 1: time it gets to me, a fire on my side
Speaker 1: of town has sprung up. Oh my god, so now
Speaker 1: that Eaton fire is going on. We thought we were
Speaker 1: gonna have sort of like a power out night, or
Speaker 1: if the power was on, we just all just like
Speaker 1: hunker down and watch a movie together. So we put
Speaker 1: on the movie Babe.
Speaker 2: What the fuck?
Speaker 1: One of my roommates is like, I don't know, I
Speaker 1: just really want to watch Babe right now, So Babe.
Speaker 1: And then we put the news on next to Babe
Speaker 1: because we've been watching it all night to just make
Speaker 1: sure that the fire isn't coming to my side of town.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it looked like it was okay.
Speaker 1: By the time we're going to bed, it was going
Speaker 1: east instead of towards us. We go fantastic.
Speaker 2: We go to bed.
Speaker 1: The morning, we all wake up at like seven forty
Speaker 1: five coughing itching so much ashes in the air that
Speaker 1: has gotten into our house despite the shut windows.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: We're all like, we gotta get out of here. So
Speaker 1: the first thing in the morning, all my friends from
Speaker 1: the area come over. There were like fifteen people in
Speaker 1: the house and we all just figured out where we
Speaker 1: were leaving too, because we had to evacuate. Going outside,
Speaker 1: you could not spend more than a minute out there
Speaker 1: because there's so much ash and soot and my car
Speaker 1: was covered in ash and we're like miles from everything,
Speaker 1: but you can tell it's toxic. It's like plastic, it's paint,
Speaker 1: it's not just yeah, but it was just super super
Speaker 1: super windy, and embers were flying across the city and
Speaker 1: everything caught on fire. Wow, and the fire is just
Speaker 1: getting fed. And the other thing that I'm learning so
Speaker 1: much about is, you know, people are like, oh, they're
Speaker 1: not containing it. They're not containing it. Fire is fire.
Speaker 1: It's just gonna burn. There's nothing you can do. What
Speaker 1: are you gonna do? Wet the sides and then hope
Speaker 1: it stopped, Like you have to wait until it kind
Speaker 1: of just simmers.
Speaker 2: Now, So dumb, I did think that's what you did.
Speaker 2: There's too much fire that you wetted the side.
Speaker 1: There's not enough people. There's too much fire once it's
Speaker 1: starting to settle down, and there aren't winds just straight
Speaker 1: up feeding it. I think there's more they can do,
Speaker 1: but mm hmmm, it's just it feeds itself. We we are,
Speaker 1: but we are but men on this earth. We have
Speaker 1: The climate change is so problematic and it's so important
Speaker 1: for us to work to stop it because we ca
Speaker 1: this is what happens nature that much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what is that? Colossal? Wow? Yeah? So gez Yeah,
Speaker 2: so I.
Speaker 1: Guess it won't make my improv show tonight.
Speaker 2: Hm anywow geez. Okay, Well, I'm so glad you're safe.
Speaker 2: Well well Leanna speaking of coastal towns. Yeah, film, let's
Speaker 2: get into it. Gosh, this feels like such a hairpin
Speaker 2: turned into a podcast. Leona.
Speaker 1: Your first note, which I have read because I actually.
Speaker 2: Oh no, we need a synopsis please of the film.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, crap.
Speaker 2: I did my worries. Honestly, no worries. If not, you've
Speaker 2: been dealing with a lot.
Speaker 1: That's where I drop a line that it can record.
Speaker 2: But I'm not doing this synonymsense, okay, Coda.
Speaker 1: Ruby is the only hearing member of a death fishing family.
Speaker 1: The two things happening in this movie are that the
Speaker 1: fishermen of the area in Maine are trying to get
Speaker 1: better pa Massachusetts. Oh crap, wait, yeah, hmm, I ask
Speaker 1: you a number of questions.
Speaker 2: College in Boston, and it's thirty minutes away.
Speaker 1: I saw fishermen and I just assumed I like, bring
Speaker 1: up Maine through this a number of times and ask
Speaker 1: you about your experience. Did two things happening in this
Speaker 1: movie That the fishermen of Massachusetts are trying to get
Speaker 1: better pay and they eventually start their own company because
Speaker 1: they just keep getting price couched and it's really frustrating
Speaker 1: to watch. And also Ruby loves to sing. She's been
Speaker 1: a translator for her close knit family her whole life,
Speaker 1: and she is now trying to find her own way
Speaker 1: as a senior in high school about to graduate. By
Speaker 1: the end of the film, she's embraced her love of singing,
Speaker 1: and she gets into Berkeley School of Music after singing
Speaker 1: a beautiful but inappropriately long audition song the end.
Speaker 2: Don't get me started on that audition. I was like,
Speaker 2: there's no way throughout it, I kept saying, in what world?
Speaker 2: In what world?
Speaker 1: This movie was sweet and uh, but I'm kind of
Speaker 1: like rude about it a number of times.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, thank god, girl, I oh, thank god.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I don't mean this as like all the
Speaker 1: all the deaf parts. Ate loved it, loved loved uh.
Speaker 1: I just felt like there were a lot of favors
Speaker 1: being traded in this film. Like the people. Some of
Speaker 1: the people cast. I was like, now, how did you
Speaker 1: end up here?
Speaker 2: Just a few of them interesting?
Speaker 1: And then all the Oscar Noms. I'm like, all the
Speaker 1: Oscar Nams, the parents incredible, the main girl dad, the
Speaker 1: job she was in it. This main actress clearly did
Speaker 1: not British. First of all British. She clearly There were
Speaker 1: a number of tis where I was like, sorry, is
Speaker 1: she from a deaf family or background. She's not. She
Speaker 1: just learned it from the movie which comes through.
Speaker 2: Oh interesting.
Speaker 1: I was surprised. I was surprised they did that.
Speaker 2: My thing, I found the plot so annoying. I had
Speaker 2: no incredibly annoying. And what I learned about myself is
Speaker 2: I do not care for a film whose plot arches
Speaker 2: toward the big audition. No singing, I'm not interested in
Speaker 2: that a singing being movie.
Speaker 1: In a singing movie, somebody has to try to sing
Speaker 1: and then they have to sing and we have to
Speaker 1: watch them sing. No, that's like, it's definitely a risky film.
Speaker 1: That's why I was, yeah that it just felt like
Speaker 1: a very, very very Hollywood movie. Like I truly feel
Speaker 1: like somebody said coda, but what about coda? And also
Speaker 1: like your first note, what about cod?
Speaker 2: And that was just me typing in the title of
Speaker 2: the film to search it and I put in the
Speaker 2: D and I said cod And then it turned out
Speaker 2: to be so very about fish. Yeah, it really it.
Speaker 1: It feels like they said, let's make an oscar film. Okay,
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 2: The code are the things we need in modern day.
Speaker 1: I have some amazing deaf actors who I've wanted to
Speaker 1: work with and have wanted to tell their story. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna make some. There are some parts about the screenplay
Speaker 1: that I enjoyed, like the speeches and stuff. I enjoyed them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so it's like, let's get them there. Then what else
Speaker 1: can we do? What else can we do? Their daughter
Speaker 1: loves to sing? Yeah, and not only will she love
Speaker 1: to sing. Let's make it a classic audition movie.
Speaker 2: People love it. People eat that up.
Speaker 1: And then I don't, And then listen, I got a
Speaker 1: cousin with a fisherman boat in Massachusetts. You can shoot
Speaker 1: there for real cheap. Not to completely hate. There are
Speaker 1: many things I enjoyed, but I was like, this is coda.
Speaker 2: I know, I know, same, Okay, great, are you eating fish?
Speaker 2: That seems like it might have been stomped on by
Speaker 2: an angsty teen. That's fishing. We'll be back in a
Speaker 2: few minutes.
Speaker 1: There's a lot that I enjoyed. And also I think,
Speaker 1: really truly we have the main graph about this movie,
Speaker 1: which is it It was a singing film, and.
Speaker 2: That is insane.
Speaker 1: I just I don't care for auditions and sings Happy Birthday.
Speaker 2: When that was the audition song, I was like, that
Speaker 2: is a famously hard song to sing. That song doesn't
Speaker 2: fit in anyone's range because it was written in the
Speaker 2: eighteenth century for people whose bodies were smaller.
Speaker 1: That's so funny.
Speaker 2: Your first note, your first note is a fisherman with
Speaker 2: a voice of gold, just like Jesus. Was he a fisherman?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Oh, a construction worker.
Speaker 1: He was what was her piper?
Speaker 2: He wasn't a fisherman. Jesus was a designer. He wasn't
Speaker 2: a fisherman.
Speaker 1: I'm wrong.
Speaker 2: What's his thing with fish? He just had a lot
Speaker 2: of them. He gaged you fish.
Speaker 1: Fishermen were super in in the Bible, so he's represented
Speaker 1: by the fish.
Speaker 2: It was like the job, like product manager. Yeah exactly.
Speaker 2: Now people do startups now.
Speaker 1: Back then they were fishermen, so like a lot of
Speaker 1: his friends were fishermen, so you know I got that wrong.
Speaker 2: Okay, Oh, this is really interesting, Ciana. You wrote every
Speaker 2: high schooler in this is thirty and we love that,
Speaker 2: and I thought they all were teens.
Speaker 1: Really, Oh they looked so old to me. Mainly, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, this is just me being a hater. My
Speaker 1: One of my main things about this movie were I
Speaker 1: couldn't believe her friend. Her friend the slut, the slut who,
Speaker 1: by the way.
Speaker 2: The underage slut.
Speaker 1: They were like, Okay, we need to cast a slut,
Speaker 1: and somebody was like, oh, my friend has really been
Speaker 1: working on her acting, Like I think she could do
Speaker 1: this role. That's what it felt like. She didn't feel
Speaker 1: like a bonified slot. She felt like me playing a slot.
Speaker 1: It felt like me coming on and being like, we
Speaker 1: can't call him little fingers anymore because he has a.
Speaker 2: Big penis.
Speaker 1: Penis. It's just, yeah, I'm sorry. I thought her friend
Speaker 1: was not the best actress, and for that reason, Canny Valley,
Speaker 1: I do not think I could do better.
Speaker 2: It's like that.
Speaker 1: That's why I felt like this shouldn't be.
Speaker 2: And that's okay, And you are not the only other
Speaker 2: actor out there, And that's why we are able to
Speaker 2: critique this because there are many people to choose from.
Speaker 1: Like yeah, exactly exactly. It doesn't need to be me,
Speaker 1: it could be anyone.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I found that interesting with the casting of the
Speaker 2: lead where yeah, it's like she didn't grow up speaking
Speaker 2: asl she's British. This is the one time I've ever
Speaker 2: been like, we should have cast an America. And I
Speaker 2: hate teens. I hate teens doing acting. They do that
Speaker 2: breathy bullshit with their lines where they say no dad.
Speaker 1: I looked up fair all the three main high schoolers British, Canadian,
Speaker 1: Irish trying to do American.
Speaker 2: You'll never understand.
Speaker 1: Wow, wow, happy burning sadly. And you said how many
Speaker 1: shoes are in the ocean, and probably a lot? Gosh,
Speaker 1: I had never thought about that before. They caught so
Speaker 1: many shoes that happens in like fishing games, like as
Speaker 1: a joke.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like you pick up a boot, a little an
Speaker 2: old leather boot, and you say, hah hah, there's probably
Speaker 2: a ton. But this was a Nike sneaker.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my gosh, Leanna, you said the only thing
Speaker 1: more annoying than a drama kid acquire kid did you.
Speaker 2: Acquire No, I was watching this was interesting. I had
Speaker 2: a personality.
Speaker 1: Oh oh, oh oh, I thought you were gonna say
Speaker 1: I was interesting. I didn't acquire, but I did do
Speaker 1: blah blah. I thought I'm gonna explain.
Speaker 2: Had stuff to say that made others laugh and experience joy.
Speaker 1: I love when he hands When mister V hands that
Speaker 1: one girl like a Morocca thing or whatever that was
Speaker 1: that and she does it so poorly he has to
Speaker 1: take it away. That completely real. At my school, I'm
Speaker 1: really sorry.
Speaker 2: I'm just over the archetype of teacher with kind of
Speaker 2: a god complex who's mean to you and yells at
Speaker 2: everybody and treats children in a way that's insane.
Speaker 1: So I watched this with my current partner ex acapella person. Wow,
Speaker 1: Kelsey's an ex acapella person, and he was horrified watching this.
Speaker 1: He was like, no, no, we can't go back. I
Speaker 1: can't go back. No, No, he horrified because it felt
Speaker 1: so real. I think he just found it so cringe.
Speaker 1: People taking singing so seriously.
Speaker 2: That is true.
Speaker 1: And we were talking about how this is the person
Speaker 1: at school, Like it's funny in the movie, but this
Speaker 1: this teacher at school would be so fired. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: like court martials, sassy, cruel, treats kids like adults in
Speaker 1: a way that is kind of hard on them. You know,
Speaker 1: you're wasting my time. They would be so fired.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Did love him though kind of felt like he was
Speaker 1: in a different movie, But I loved him.
Speaker 2: He absolutely was. He was in a different movie in
Speaker 2: a different tax bracket as well. What was that house?
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, his coastal mansion. There was a moment,
Speaker 2: but he lives in on a choir teachers salary with
Speaker 2: the child's at a public school in Massachusetts.
Speaker 1: What class of eighty nine? Berkeley College? I'm sorry when
Speaker 1: they brought up Berkeley, I called it before it even
Speaker 1: the words even appeared on the screen.
Speaker 2: Oh did you really?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Amazing.
Speaker 1: It was like I think, have you thought about college?
Speaker 1: And I'm like, they're gonna say Berkeley School of Music?
Speaker 1: Bir Oh my god, because okay, Sleigh, this movie is
Speaker 1: like Glee. It's like, well, what does a girl who
Speaker 1: likes to sing on a boat want to do? She
Speaker 1: needs to did they did they mention Glee?
Speaker 2: Yeah? He was like, I'll find out which of you
Speaker 2: are tenors? Which of you are altos and which of
Speaker 2: you just watched too much Glee? This movie was like ugh, ughly,
Speaker 2: we are tired, you said, Am I in a bad mood?
Speaker 1: Or do I hate this movie? I feel like this
Speaker 1: is gonna switch. The second half was a completely different film,
Speaker 1: much like Knows for All I think different, but it
Speaker 1: was switched on this phy. I think I enjoyed this.
Speaker 1: I enjoyed her family when they stopped. Like the mom
Speaker 1: to me felt like an archetype also for a lot
Speaker 1: of the movie, and then she started feeling more like
Speaker 1: a three dimensional character. And in the last third of
Speaker 1: the film, I thought the dad was really good. There
Speaker 1: just was much more emotional connection at the end. And
Speaker 1: I struggled so much with this idea that they rely
Speaker 1: solely on this one person to interpret for them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and don't care at all about what she wants to
Speaker 1: do with her life. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, it was interesting.
Speaker 1: It was so interesting. The second half I really liked
Speaker 1: a lot. I really felt the frustration and the pain
Speaker 1: of like, oh, you need to be there for your
Speaker 1: family who needs you, and they've become reliant on her,
Speaker 1: and yeah.
Speaker 2: But.
Speaker 1: It's true, it's interesting they wouldn't think about that but
Speaker 1: it did feel like she had sort of self centered
Speaker 1: and scared parents. You know, they just didn't know how
Speaker 1: to love her in that way, you know, but they
Speaker 1: kind of learned together as a family. This is kind
Speaker 1: of random right now, But what was sort of a
Speaker 1: significant moment for me, because definitely there were though the
Speaker 1: singing part was it was necessarily stupid. We are too
Speaker 1: we are to sort of drama kid esquely, this is
Speaker 1: just it's stupid and we know that. But a lot
Speaker 1: of the stuff about disability was interesting and uh maybe
Speaker 1: me think a lot workers' rights really frustrating, really interesting.
Speaker 1: There were some moments of tension, like when she had
Speaker 1: to she wanted to go to the to sing and
Speaker 1: the news was here. It was just so heartbreaking and
Speaker 1: so frustrating and stressed me out so much. When she
Speaker 1: was looking at her phone.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I was in fight or flight during
Speaker 2: that scene, so I was dressed us.
Speaker 1: I think the parents were so good I would have
Speaker 1: watched them. I wish it had been a whole movie
Speaker 1: of them, to be honest. But the part when she
Speaker 1: was singing and they were trying their best to pay attention,
Speaker 1: it was an interesting thing for me where I was like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, even beyond not obviously being able to hear
Speaker 1: their daughter singing, there's no reason why they would have
Speaker 1: sort of any sense of like a hearing one hearing
Speaker 1: moment being I mean obviously they know that, but like
Speaker 1: for them, their actual experience of her singing isn't like
Speaker 1: a particularly poignant moment the wait, it is for everybody else,
Speaker 1: because it's just like another hearing Like it's such a
Speaker 1: hearing moment to hear somebody say I was.
Speaker 2: I was being so problematic during that scene because my
Speaker 2: superiority complex came in with a vengeance where I was
Speaker 2: like yet another reason why drama kids are more interesting
Speaker 2: than choir kids, Because if you're deaf and you go
Speaker 2: to a drama club performance, at least we're fucking doing
Speaker 2: something with our bodies. We're wearing fun costumes. There's a
Speaker 2: lot visually that's interesting to look at. These just stood
Speaker 2: in line for an hour and a half.
Speaker 1: Yeah, bump, bump.
Speaker 2: I'm really sorry. I'm sorry. I find choir so annoying.
Speaker 2: I don't know why I have such a beef with choir,
Speaker 2: but I do make the ugliest noise you can.
Speaker 1: Ah, ah, what did you think of the parent actors.
Speaker 2: I thought that they both did a great job. I
Speaker 2: was frustrated with the mom character. Yeah, I thought for
Speaker 2: a lot of the film it was an annoying trope
Speaker 2: of the mom is the bad guy, the dad is
Speaker 2: the understanding one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that does always happen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they got away from the end.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah.
Speaker 2: For the first I found her very unsympathetic for the
Speaker 2: first like two thirds of the movie. Is when she
Speaker 2: like when her daughter tells her she's doing choir and
Speaker 2: her mom's like, why are you doing that? Oh? I
Speaker 2: enjoy it and I'm making friends. Yeah, it was so odd.
Speaker 1: That's a good point. I don't think.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I guess I guess where it felt strange.
Speaker 2: People can change over the course of a film. Great
Speaker 2: this one, it felt like the whole time they were
Speaker 2: telling us like, oh, but her daughter like loves her parents, Like,
Speaker 2: that's not the issue. The conflict here isn't that she
Speaker 2: has bad parents. That's not what we're doing. And I
Speaker 2: was like, but you're writing this mom as if she's
Speaker 2: like doing a bad job parents.
Speaker 1: An interesting point. Yeah, that's an interesting point.
Speaker 2: It's which again, once they had that scene, Yeah, once
Speaker 2: they had that scene where her mom and she and
Speaker 2: her mom talk about like the day she was born
Speaker 2: and it's just the two of them in her room.
Speaker 2: I was like, great, and then from there, from then out,
Speaker 2: I loved the mom. He looked so much like a
Speaker 2: weathered fisherman. I googled him. I was like fisherman, question Mark,
Speaker 2: and they're like, no, he's been an actor for decades
Speaker 2: since the eighties. And I was like, oh my god, what.
Speaker 1: Look at your mom. She's hot.
Speaker 2: Oh. I didn't like that. They were quite crass about sex,
Speaker 2: and I'm so comfortable parents don't have sex. I don't
Speaker 2: know why we're putting forth this narrative that they do. Oh, Ciena,
Speaker 2: you wrote I've never done anything without my family before
Speaker 2: me doing my taxes wrong. Sorry, I would say, just you, yeah,
Speaker 2: it is me generally. How did you feel like, did
Speaker 2: you connect with the the through line of like a
Speaker 2: very tight knit family totally?
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Titan family, and especially in high school when
Speaker 1: she said to her like, beyond just her being a translator,
Speaker 1: I keep saying that, beyond just her being an interpreter
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, being the one hearing person in
Speaker 1: her family, when he was like, you know you got
Speaker 1: to be able to be places on time, You got
Speaker 1: to be able to you know, you're letting me down.
Speaker 1: When mister B was saying all that, and she eventually
Speaker 1: was just like, I've never done anything without my family. Hmmm,
Speaker 1: I felt completely that way in high school.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that put that actually was a really
Speaker 1: good way of putting what's so weird about growing up
Speaker 1: and what's so scary about it, you know, is it's like, hmm,
Speaker 1: I'm from a close family and we do everything together.
Speaker 1: I loved from they all went to audition together. You
Speaker 1: didn't like that.
Speaker 2: I liked that they drove there together. I thought that
Speaker 2: was sweet. Then when they have a lot of qualms
Speaker 2: with the audition scene, I.
Speaker 1: Love that they didn't care. I love how much didn't
Speaker 1: And I think some of that was that I liked
Speaker 1: the family care.
Speaker 2: I liked.
Speaker 1: The audition scene. You mean I I did not understand.
Speaker 2: What that one like the piece of fiction where they
Speaker 2: let the child who showed up thirty minutes after her
Speaker 2: audition slot still audition bring in her own teacher to
Speaker 2: do the score for her. That would start the song
Speaker 2: over and have her family in the auditorium for the
Speaker 2: audition no, no Hano Debez.
Speaker 1: But his character was completely from another movie. I'm sorry
Speaker 1: when you give in, Oh play the music, I'll play
Speaker 1: for her.
Speaker 2: I guess what what I didn't like about it was
Speaker 2: the Fisher people like the fish side of the movie
Speaker 2: felt so grounded in reality and so like dealing with
Speaker 2: harsh every day yep, things that people in this town
Speaker 2: were going through. The whole felt like complete fantasy fiction.
Speaker 2: I completely agree, And I was like, I don't know
Speaker 2: how to I reconcile these two. I was in one movie.
Speaker 1: That's the thing. That's a really good way of putting
Speaker 1: when I was like, this is was the Oscar movie
Speaker 1: of the of twenty twenty one? Because it was it
Speaker 1: was two different movies.
Speaker 2: That is what it felt like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was very interesting. It was strange, but it
Speaker 1: wasn't really in like a super campy or purposeful way.
Speaker 1: It didn't feel like that, you know. It wasn't like
Speaker 1: the lighting changed and she suddenly in this fantasy world.
Speaker 2: Yeah it was strange.
Speaker 1: It was strange. Yeah. I loved that her family didn't g.
Speaker 2: G and f.
Speaker 1: Sorry everybody, if you'll excuse me, I need to go
Speaker 1: sing my auditions And it's going to take a little
Speaker 1: over three minutes. That's how long they are, right, We'll
Speaker 1: be right.
Speaker 2: I'm believable.
Speaker 1: Leani, you said, sometimes you hear a special voice and
Speaker 1: it reminds you to keep making music. Hah, fuck all
Speaker 1: the other choir kids. I guess he says that at
Speaker 1: the choir concert.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all the choir is done performing and they
Speaker 2: leave the stage, and then he's doing the intro for
Speaker 2: the duet and he says that, And I'm like, imagine
Speaker 2: being one of the other obviously annoying but still a
Speaker 2: human choir kids. Still, and you hear the choir teachers
Speaker 2: say that, and you're like, what the hell? They already
Speaker 2: got the solo. We already knew that they were the
Speaker 2: right You had to go and also say that, uh huh.
Speaker 2: So when I sing, you don't feel like making music?
Speaker 1: Okay, I never want to make music again. Leanna, you said,
Speaker 1: you said, the next hetero couple I have to watch
Speaker 1: snog I'm gonna kms. Oh yeah, yeah, that's the other
Speaker 1: thing is like this, So the mean teacher loves her,
Speaker 1: pairs her with the guy she has a crush on.
Speaker 1: They fall in love, they kiss, they sing a song together.
Speaker 2: I would obviously I have a lot of personal bitterness
Speaker 2: tied to this kind of a plot line, but it
Speaker 2: was so annoying.
Speaker 1: I would call this movie the opposite of No Speratu
Speaker 1: and everybody for our take on nos Feratu, you can
Speaker 1: visit our patreon for a bonus monthly video episode both
Speaker 1: on the same day and just thinking about like this
Speaker 1: one is such a predictable sort of Hollywood and.
Speaker 2: Then it is a black ohmen, at least no one
Speaker 2: in this movie died while inside another dead person. That's
Speaker 2: that thing is That is why.
Speaker 1: We're watching movies by women, because I haven't explains about
Speaker 1: the choir kid thing. But nobody died boning each other
Speaker 1: and I love that.
Speaker 2: Okay, we've done a lot of criticizing of the pieces
Speaker 2: of the piece that we did not enjoy that disturbed
Speaker 2: our piece. But Siena, let's let's award the movies and
Speaker 2: badges and trages, badges.
Speaker 1: For badges for barges, badges for barges and tradges.
Speaker 2: For taking a large profit of the workers earnings. Yes, gosh,
Speaker 2: that was so frustrated taking a large portion. Oh, I
Speaker 2: have a badge for nature. I appreciated their appreciation for
Speaker 2: nature and how she found the lake the Lakes Massachusetts,
Speaker 2: the Lake a New England lake can be a rejuvenating spot.
Speaker 2: That was so beautiful. Oh, I got.
Speaker 1: I had a badge for the parents again. I loved
Speaker 1: these actors so much. I already knew Marley Matlin, but
Speaker 1: I had not seen this guy before. I thought they
Speaker 1: were fantastic. And also I loved that they were just
Speaker 1: spicy parents, even though you know, they had flaws. They
Speaker 1: loved each other. They were crass, but you know they
Speaker 1: they were Actually they were characters, and they were strong characters.
Speaker 1: I thought they were awesome.
Speaker 2: I'm going to require so much psychoanalysis about why I
Speaker 2: don't like it when parents bang. Really I love to
Speaker 2: look into My other badge is a badge for when
Speaker 2: they fade out the sound during the duet at the
Speaker 2: choir concert, so you see how the concert feels from
Speaker 2: the family's perspective. That was great. I was actually hoping
Speaker 2: they were going to do something like that at some point,
Speaker 2: because there's do you know the show Strictly Come Dancing
Speaker 2: m It's the UK's equivalent of Dancing with the Stars,
Speaker 2: And there was one season a few years ago where
Speaker 2: one of the contestants was deaf, and for the most part,
Speaker 2: for almost every dance they played music for it, and
Speaker 2: she could hear it. I think she either had a
Speaker 2: cochlear implant or she could feel like the rhythm of
Speaker 2: the base of the music. But for one of the
Speaker 2: numbers they faded out the music so that for like
Speaker 2: a full minute of the dance. Whoa, they're dancing in silence.
Speaker 2: And it was really so beautiful. Wow, I have boosebumps now. No,
Speaker 2: it was complete silence.
Speaker 1: Wow, that is so cool.
Speaker 2: It was really lovely. So I liked that moment a lot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, me too. It's always powerful to in some way
Speaker 1: when movies can show you somebody else's experience in some way,
Speaker 1: it's like, I think that's a powerful use of the
Speaker 1: medium that we yeah, so much trouble with. That's exactly right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: badge for ASL. I just love ASL. It is so
Speaker 1: compelling language. It's just animated and visual and so much depth,
Speaker 1: and I really I really enjoyed a lot of the
Speaker 1: speeches they had.
Speaker 2: That's the end of my badges. Oh sorry too, Okay,
Speaker 2: I feel so problematic, not like, but then I think
Speaker 2: it would be problematic to like it just for the
Speaker 2: sake of liking it because it represents an underrepresented community.
Speaker 1: I think you're right that there were two movies happening.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and one of them.
Speaker 1: Is the worst thing to kid could ever watch. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's true. Badge for And I'm sorry. I know my
Speaker 1: mom really likes it, but I think it's because you
Speaker 1: haven't experienced the trauma of really annoying singer kids. Mom.
Speaker 1: Badge for these parents can't stop banging.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 1: I think that's awesome. No badge for love this Dad.
Speaker 1: I also love Marley Mattlin. I think the first scene
Speaker 1: that's just like her and her daughter, even though she
Speaker 1: was being like a bad mom. I was just so
Speaker 1: struck by how compelling that scene was compared to everything
Speaker 1: else i'd seen.
Speaker 2: Oh can I give one more badge? A badge for
Speaker 2: the scene after the concert where her dad asks her
Speaker 2: to sing the song for him on the truck. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and he like feels it through her. That was really sweet.
Speaker 2: That was really great.
Speaker 1: That was really really sweet. Oh yeah, just okay. I'd
Speaker 1: say if I was going to give a critique of
Speaker 1: this movie in just a few words, it would be
Speaker 1: that this was like six Oscar Worthy scenes after seventy
Speaker 1: minutes of Glee, and so those final oscar Worthy scenes
Speaker 1: were really good and compelling. It just felt like, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: here's all the Oscar stuff, because before that it was
Speaker 1: just like a girl singing with a boy. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I think those scenes were really good, and like when
Speaker 1: it was just her alone talking to her parents, those
Speaker 1: scenes are super compelling. I just loved the speeches that
Speaker 1: her parents gave, and I thought it was sweet when
Speaker 1: she started signing during her singing. I'm just really critical
Speaker 1: of the fact that they didn't get somebody who's been
Speaker 1: doing it since birth, but because I'm like, I think
Speaker 1: that would have made it even more powerful. But that
Speaker 1: again is me being a nitpicker or an idealistic and
Speaker 1: idealistic viewer. But I thought that was really pretty and Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: I started crying. Okay, all right, they got me, Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, they got right badge for I love that
Speaker 1: they started the successful business yeah, a movie where they
Speaker 1: they succeed in they left the price gougey Yeah, and
Speaker 1: they started the business go off. And finally I did
Speaker 1: actually love when mister V messes up the piano so
Speaker 1: she has to start again because she's doing so bad
Speaker 1: that he's.
Speaker 2: Like, oops, my bad.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. Anyway, love that trages. I literally went when
Speaker 1: he did that, I literally said out loud, genius.
Speaker 2: My first trage is for dead fish. Yeah, there were
Speaker 2: a dead fish in this.
Speaker 1: A lot of them, and they were smashing them around
Speaker 1: with their feet, and I was.
Speaker 2: Like, is there a teen stomping on my fish? When
Speaker 2: I eat a fish? Has it been stomped on by
Speaker 2: a teen? A Massachusetts teen who doesn't want to be
Speaker 2: doing this?
Speaker 1: It's possible. Trage for my very first tradge that I
Speaker 1: wrote down, probably very early on, is the singing part
Speaker 1: is cringe for sure.
Speaker 2: A trage for class ending in the middle of a
Speaker 2: lecture that never ever happens in real life and in
Speaker 2: every film the teacher is like and then in nineteen
Speaker 2: thirty nine Germany decided to and the bell rings and
Speaker 2: the like, well, I guess that's it for TA. I'm like, no,
Speaker 2: you finished the lecture. You spend like ten minutes talking
Speaker 2: about the homework. Yeah, around papers?
Speaker 1: Kind of awkward?
Speaker 2: Yeah, what what? I hate that in films?
Speaker 1: Trasge for again. I wrote this in probably the first
Speaker 1: twenty minutes. I wrote, not quite as a complex as
Speaker 1: I expected.
Speaker 2: Hmm, interesting, interesting, interesting that you want deaf people to
Speaker 2: have complex lives.
Speaker 1: No, it's because it's an Oscar Worthy movie. It's the
Speaker 1: movie because so much Oscar buzz I could not believe
Speaker 1: it was about a singing teen. But again, as the
Speaker 1: movie went on, I think that that critique would then
Speaker 1: be turned into there are two stories going on, because
Speaker 1: they didn't bring up the workers' rights part very deeply
Speaker 1: until the second half, which was a very true. That
Speaker 1: was a compelling, very compelling film.
Speaker 2: Uh. Trage for not being allowed to sit down when
Speaker 2: the choir teacher comes in is like, nope, stand up everyone.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. I became exhausted at the memory of
Speaker 2: having to stand up out of my chair during the
Speaker 2: singing sessions. The singing is horrible for the school musical horrible.
Speaker 2: Let me sit down, Trag'm not a born singer. I
Speaker 2: want to sit.
Speaker 1: I was born to sit, not to sing. Trage for
Speaker 1: that scene where everybody knows more than you about something
Speaker 1: and you realize it when you get to the room, terrifying.
Speaker 1: That was all of college for the audition. I didn't
Speaker 1: know about this m college when I got to an
Speaker 1: arts program and everybody was talking about artists and I
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, no, I'm taking this class because I've
Speaker 1: never heard of one. I don't know anything.
Speaker 2: I know like Vincent van Goh, and that should be allowed.
Speaker 2: It's so annoying when people already know things. It's terrible
Speaker 2: trage for outside clothes on the bed. When she and
Speaker 2: her friend are over at her house, they're both lying
Speaker 2: on her bed with not even the duvet, the comforter
Speaker 2: up on the sheets, in their outside clothes.
Speaker 1: And they were probably fishing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh fishy bed.
Speaker 1: Trag for. Again, that doesn't bother me that much, but
Speaker 1: I get it trag for. Is there some scenes with
Speaker 1: her speech where it really did not feel like she
Speaker 1: grew up doing asl And I was like, oh, that's
Speaker 1: such a missed opportunity in my opinion, But.
Speaker 2: Uh, trage for. I really don't get high school bullying
Speaker 2: as depicted in movies. Okay, I don't know if I
Speaker 2: don't remember high school fish girl, but.
Speaker 1: What slop flop fish girl? What oh smells like fish
Speaker 1: fish girl?
Speaker 2: I just don't your parents are deaf, eh, I don't
Speaker 2: think that is happening.
Speaker 1: She seemed to be the in the world getting bullied.
Speaker 2: Also, yeah, odd, odd, Yeah, I have another odd depiction
Speaker 2: of high school.
Speaker 1: Like oh yeah, mean girls are gonna be like, oh,
Speaker 1: you're a fishy fish girl, like we hate you. I guess, yeah,
Speaker 1: I really don't get it. My final trage is my
Speaker 1: first trag, which was, Okay, this is this movie is
Speaker 1: a little cringe. And every time I wrote that thing down,
Speaker 1: it was when they were having a singing scene. So
Speaker 1: I think, yep, yep, I think we get it.
Speaker 2: Yep. A trage for this. This will be my last trage.
Speaker 2: A trage for why doesn't anyone ever explain what's going
Speaker 2: on or try to reschedule when they can't make something. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the scene where the news showed up and she couldn't
Speaker 2: go to music practice because she then had to interpret
Speaker 2: for her parents for the news. I was like, this
Speaker 2: would have been on their calendar. She could easily just
Speaker 2: text her music tutor and say, hey, I'm really sorry,
Speaker 2: this is what's going on. Could we maybe move these
Speaker 2: sessions to a later time, given that I'm always late
Speaker 2: to them, could we maybe move these to a half
Speaker 2: hour later because I'm consistently arriving at five twenty, So
Speaker 2: if we started at five point thirty, we could avoid
Speaker 2: this problem. And instead she's like, I have a lot
Speaker 2: going on, Like just say, the news showed up and
Speaker 2: it was a really huge thing.
Speaker 1: Just explain what family going on? Family thing.
Speaker 2: I don't like that. It's like how you feel about
Speaker 2: when people don't answer questions in movies they just walk away.
Speaker 2: That's how I feel when people when there's some sort
Speaker 2: of like misunderstanding, yes, unavoidable misunderstanding. Hate that.
Speaker 1: Well, Yahn show onto our next segment, which is, of course,
Speaker 1: how to pretend you've seen this film. This is for Yes,
Speaker 1: you are standing by the water, just trying to look
Speaker 1: at the nice the nice looking at the lake of
Speaker 1: a Massachusetts lake, and Miles Miles, Miles on.
Speaker 2: A boat full of shoes, the tallest, palest, skinniest boy
Speaker 2: in school.
Speaker 1: He says, I was just coming to dump all these
Speaker 1: shoes in the water because I'm done with them. You say,
Speaker 1: don't do that. So many about things happening in the class,
Speaker 1: so many about things to our environment, He says, Hey,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: Sitting on that rock singing Happy Birthday to yourself really
Speaker 2: reminded me of a film.
Speaker 1: Of a film I saw I liked all the crassness.
Speaker 2: Shout at you crassley about it at a time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you've never even heard of it. It was Oscar buzz,
Speaker 1: but most girls haven't seen it. And uh. In order
Speaker 1: to in.
Speaker 2: Order smiles out of the conversation and rescue the lake
Speaker 2: from shoetom, here are.
Speaker 1: A few things you can say to pretend you've seen
Speaker 1: the film Coda.
Speaker 2: Miles, I've seen the film Coda, or as I like
Speaker 2: to call it, cod.
Speaker 1: Cod uh a cod cod ah. I'm sorry, this is
Speaker 1: what I hate Hollywood. Yes, Miles, I have seen Coda.
Speaker 1: Two fun facts are the onset interpreters. We're all Coda's
Speaker 1: that children of deff adults, which makes sense. I think
Speaker 1: that's really common for interpreters. And then also the other
Speaker 1: fact is that Amelia Jones spent nine months learning American
Speaker 1: sign language, having singing lessons, and learning how to operate
Speaker 1: a fishing trawler.
Speaker 2: Okay, wow, so they just got like a pretty British girl.
Speaker 1: Why not get someone who went any other parts the
Speaker 1: four things that are part of this fishing sign language,
Speaker 1: singing and being American. She didn't know any of them.
Speaker 1: Why is it that we do things this way?
Speaker 2: Interesting. She did a good job acting wise, but that
Speaker 2: is interesting.
Speaker 1: I get why she's just good. I didn't think she
Speaker 1: was bad. I just just is this how we really
Speaker 1: go about it?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Miles, I've seen Coda, and I'm going to tell
Speaker 2: you now what the teacher told her Ruby in the
Speaker 2: film during a moment of being frustrated. I have a
Speaker 2: whole life that has nothing to do with you, and
Speaker 2: I need to get back to it, Miles, so please
Speaker 2: paddle away. Wow.
Speaker 1: This sucks, Yes, it sucks, but then it's good and
Speaker 1: also makes it clear maybe why this was such an
Speaker 1: impactful film at the time.
Speaker 2: And I'm being.
Speaker 1: Nippicky, but uh, yes, Miles, I have seen Coda. When
Speaker 1: it became clear to the financiers that Sean Hayter intended
Speaker 1: to cast real deaf actors for all the deaf characters,
Speaker 1: the financiers threatened to withdraw their funding. What I guess,
Speaker 1: because they thought it wasn't gonna have enough pull like
Speaker 1: they wanted more.
Speaker 2: That's so wild. That is wow.
Speaker 1: So sorry Sean for being so rude, because I know
Speaker 1: that you did you you cared.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: But then Marley Mattlin then said that she would pull
Speaker 1: out if that turned out to be the case and
Speaker 1: they reverse their decision, So way to go, Marley.
Speaker 2: She has so much power work.
Speaker 1: But like, what the hell? That is insane?
Speaker 2: That is insane.
Speaker 1: That would be horrible. Imagine if it was like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, Ben Affleck playing.
Speaker 2: The dad, Oh god, and it would have been Ben
Speaker 2: Affleck as well.
Speaker 1: That would have been so so's Boston way less impactful
Speaker 1: and offensive. That a they didn't cast anybody in b
Speaker 1: They thought that any that any actor could be just
Speaker 1: as good as somebody who actually speaks asl.
Speaker 2: Hmmm, true, Miles, stop it. I've seen coda and you're
Speaker 2: being as dumb right now as when the dad says,
Speaker 2: in response to the mom saying our baby is moving away,
Speaker 2: the dad says she was never a baby, which, when
Speaker 2: you think about it for one second at all, is
Speaker 2: biologically false.
Speaker 1: She never was a baby due.
Speaker 2: To the fact that at one point she was in
Speaker 2: fact literally a baby. Now put the shoe down and
Speaker 2: get out of the lake. I love that. I think
Speaker 2: I was never a baby. That would have been inappropriate.
Speaker 1: It is really funny imagining you as a baby.
Speaker 2: That is hilarious, Like what was I doing pissing myself.
Speaker 2: I don't think so. I think I was just kind
Speaker 2: of keeping it all together and being reserved.
Speaker 1: Yes, Myles, I have seen the film Coda. Troy Kotzer,
Speaker 1: the dad in this, was the first deaf male actor
Speaker 1: to win an OSCAR for this movie. I think he
Speaker 1: won Best Supporting Actor, which he totally deserved. And then
Speaker 1: Marley Mattlin, who was the mom in this movie, was
Speaker 1: the first deaf female actress to win an OSCAR for
Speaker 1: Children of a Lesser God, which is I think what?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, in the nineties, Sleigh Sleigh, Sianna, should we
Speaker 2: jump off the cliff into our next segment?
Speaker 1: Let's do it.
Speaker 2: This is, of course, is yes, should you watch this
Speaker 2: or or boat, in which we tell you if we
Speaker 2: think you should watch the movie or if you should
Speaker 2: do something else with your time?
Speaker 1: Leanna, what do you think?
Speaker 2: I think, Yes, you can watch Coda. I think it's
Speaker 2: important to see stories totally about people with disabilities. A
Speaker 2: because like giving them an additional view is important industry wise,
Speaker 2: not that they get enough royalties because it's on a
Speaker 2: streaming platform, but B because it's just interesting, like it
Speaker 2: moddens the horizons totally. It was also an interesting way
Speaker 2: to watch a movie, like, I watched it differently than
Speaker 2: I would have watched a movie without as many subtitles,
Speaker 2: because I literally had to watch. Yeah, that's so often
Speaker 2: I often am not I'm often looking away or distracted,
Speaker 2: and so it's certainly a worthwhile watch. But you if
Speaker 2: you are a former performer from high school, you will
Speaker 2: absolutely a lot of moments that you totally take for yourself.
Speaker 2: What would you say, Sienna.
Speaker 1: I feel exactly the same. I think it's actually totally
Speaker 1: worth a watch, even though we were critical. It's uh,
Speaker 1: I've also been lucky to see probably it like if
Speaker 1: you've never seen any content with any deaf actors, or
Speaker 1: seen a lot of deaf content on TV or anything.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's totally worth watching that getting
Speaker 1: into it. Yeah, there's a lot that I really liked
Speaker 1: about the movie. I think it's totally worth a watch.
Speaker 1: And as long as you're bracing yourself. The only reason
Speaker 1: we were so weird a out is because we were
Speaker 1: completely blindsided by the fact that it was a Glee movie.
Speaker 1: So just know that there'll be some cringey whatever stuff.
Speaker 1: And if you weren't a drama kid, I don't think
Speaker 1: it'll bother you as much.
Speaker 2: I don't think it survived. I think you'll be fine. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But besides that, it's very sweet and I really love
Speaker 1: the actors in it, and it makes me want to
Speaker 1: watch Marley Mattlin and more stuff. It makes me want
Speaker 1: to watch Troy Kotzer and more so. Anyway, and uh,
Speaker 1: you know it's a movie about uh about workers' rights
Speaker 1: as well, and they win the side school. So yeah, Leona,
Speaker 1: what would you rate this movie? It's an interesting one.
Speaker 2: Give Coda four stomped fish out of five. For just
Speaker 2: the plot line itself, I would give it like a
Speaker 2: two and a half.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think this is a good way of putting it.
Speaker 2: What the plot was so weird for like, for what
Speaker 2: it did as a movie and for Hollywood. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: think it did so true todle forward in an important,
Speaker 2: like societal way. That's so true. And I think a
Speaker 2: lot of the performances were very good, and the ending
Speaker 2: was actually really good. It was just like the first
Speaker 2: part that was so annoyally weird, and that audition scene
Speaker 2: was a complete work of fiction. It life And she
Speaker 2: would never get into the Berkeley School of me totally,
Speaker 2: not with that behavior. Totally Sienna, how about you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would give Coda. I'm going to give this
Speaker 1: film three point five full ponytails out of five, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, she oh yeah wow, her hair was amazing.
Speaker 1: But uh yeah, I completely agree the ways that it
Speaker 1: was awesome. It was really awesome. All the main actors
Speaker 1: were great. Even though I had some gripes about wishing that,
Speaker 1: you know, she was actually a Coda, she was very
Speaker 1: good for this role. And the brother and the the
Speaker 1: parents were just so awesome. There was so much that
Speaker 1: I enjoyed about. It was very sweet and as long
Speaker 1: as you know it's.
Speaker 2: Cringe, nor is the worst thing. I'm free exactly being
Speaker 2: cringe is not the worst thing ever.
Speaker 1: And super sweet. Yeah, and now I've seen Coda.
Speaker 2: That was our review of it. Thank you everyone. We
Speaker 2: are Tossed Popcorn as always. You can find us on
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Speaker 2: we will be watching Is it Time, It is Time,
Speaker 2: It's Time, It's the World's.
Speaker 1: About and it's time for us to watch promising young woman.
Speaker 1: Whoo yeah, whooooooooo woo.
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Speaker 1: You said, why does she have a Cthulhu stuffed animal?
Speaker 1: Did she see this?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: I did not.
Speaker 2: I guess cause she's the corner of room is like
Speaker 2: a Cthulhu ass squid. And then at the end of
Speaker 2: the movie, when she's moving to college thirty minutes away,
Speaker 2: uh huh, he brings out Cuthulhu and hands her to
Speaker 2: her is distracting. It's distracting to put Kuthulhu in the
Speaker 2: corner of a film.