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Speaker 1: high school football. But man, I love watching it, listen

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Speaker 1: to it, and talking about it. I would love to

428
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Speaker 1: make my work that you're in the business, what do

429
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,680
Speaker 1: you like and what do you not like about this?

430
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Speaker 1: I would say this, there has never been an easier

431
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:25,879
Speaker 1: time in your situation to figure out a way to

432
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Speaker 1: get involved in the world of just talking about sports.

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Speaker 1: This stuff when I got into it, hell a decade ago,

434
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,560
Speaker 1: didn't really exist. You have YouTube, you have Instagram, you

435
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,199
Speaker 1: have TikTok. Like you don't need to start of just

436
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 1: like I have a podcast that one hundred thousand people

437
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Speaker 1: listen to. Just create a TikTok account or an Instagram

438
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,639
Speaker 1: account or a YouTube page and just kind of start

439
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,399
Speaker 1: throwing your ideas out there. Record some of your podcasts,

440
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,119
Speaker 1: clip it up, make it a side project, and just

441
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,720
Speaker 1: see if you can figure out a way to kind

442
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 1: of hone in on what works and what doesn't work.

443
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:00,960
Speaker 1: Who cares if anyone's listen. You already have a job,

444
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,120
Speaker 1: so just make it a side hustle. At first, most

445
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 1: side hustles don't make any money, and then if you

446
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,440
Speaker 1: ever gained some traction, you can spend a little more

447
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 1: effort and energy doing it. But like you can order

448
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:17,920
Speaker 1: equipment off Amazon, you can just get a Logitech camera

449
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 1: and put it above your your laptop and just start

450
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 1: recording stuff and post it to the social channels and

451
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,159
Speaker 1: just mess around and then just figure out, like how

452
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 1: much you actually like it, because now you can't be

453
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,920
Speaker 1: down on yourself about how many people listen or interact

454
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:40,239
Speaker 1: like it takes time. You know, it's like coward just

455
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 1: didn't start on Fox Sports one with a show a

456
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:47,400
Speaker 1: podcast company doing all this stuff. You can start doing

457
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,640
Speaker 1: it when no one was paying attention in the eighties, right,

458
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 1: Dan Patrick started when no one was paying attention, well

459
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 1: before he ever gotten ESPN or whoever, right, And most

460
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 1: people aren't Pat McAfee or whatever that have a built

461
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,439
Speaker 1: in like I played in the NFL. So you just

462
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 1: you gotta start from scratch and just start swinging your pick.

463
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,680
Speaker 1: But you get to a point like, if you really

464
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 1: want to try this, it's not You already have a

465
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 1: way to make money. Start small and just see where

466
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Speaker 1: it goes. I'm twenty four year old Falcons fan, and

467
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,160
Speaker 1: ever since Super Bowl losses fell like a nightmare, trusting

468
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,920
Speaker 1: Mariota Desmond Ritter wasn't exactly comforting, But last year Kirk

469
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,440
Speaker 1: Cousins actually gave me some of the best football memories

470
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,159
Speaker 1: in years, Like the Bucks on Thursday Night Football in

471
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 1: the Eagles two Minute Drive, I like grahem, love our

472
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Speaker 1: recent draft, and I'm really intrigued by Zach Robinson. I

473
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,199
Speaker 1: agree the staff is only in year two, so I

474
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Speaker 1: know it takes time to fully establish a system. Maybe

475
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 1: it's just wishful thinking, but is it crazy to believe

476
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Speaker 1: that Pennix could have a Mahomes type arc, sit behind

477
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Speaker 1: a solid vet, get a few reps, and then blow up.

478
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Speaker 1: In year two, we got a good old line, we

479
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,439
Speaker 1: have weapons, and the defense is younger and improving. What

480
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Speaker 1: are the odds pulls us into the playoffs? If you're

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Speaker 1: a playoff team, that means I would make I mean,

482
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Speaker 1: I think the Bucks are winning ten games, so you

483
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 1: probably have to win eleven or twelve to win the division.

484
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 1: I guess you could make a wild card at ten.

485
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 1: That means Penix has a good year. And if Pennix

486
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Speaker 1: has a good year, like you're gonna be in a

487
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,119
Speaker 1: good spot and moving forward. Now, I think this is

488
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Speaker 1: what we talked about with Anthony Richardson being compared to

489
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Speaker 1: Josh Allen. It's like we need the next Josh Allen. Like, no,

490
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 1: don't think like that, because that's never happen. It happened

491
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,399
Speaker 1: in basketball forever. This guy's the next Draymond Green. Now

492
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 1: there's one Draymond Green. There's never gonna be another guy

493
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Speaker 1: that's six foot five that can play defense like that

494
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 1: passingerribble that doesn't really happen. He's an outlier player. Josh Allen,

495
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 1: all these physical gifts, wasn't very good in college. Couldn't

496
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Speaker 1: even get a Division one scholarship. People thought the fucking

497
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,880
Speaker 1: Bills were nuts for drafting them. It's like that that's

498
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Speaker 1: an outliershit. Usually that guy sucks, right, And the thing

499
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Speaker 1: with Pennix is like multi year starter, took Washington to

500
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Speaker 1: the Natty dominated Like he's a legitimate, like plug and

501
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,159
Speaker 1: play player. Now, how good I hope he's good. I

502
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 1: enjoy watching him play. But comparing him to Mahomes, I mean,

503
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 1: didn't Mahomes as his first year starting, throw fifty touchdowns.

504
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 1: Didn't he win the MVP? I think that's his style

505
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 1: is a lot different than Penis too. I mean Penix

506
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 1: is a pocket quarterback. Pennix is more He's much closer

507
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Speaker 1: to like a Jared Goff, like the way he wants

508
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 1: to play. Mahomes first year in the NFL as a

509
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 1: full time starter, he threw fifty touchdowns. So I would

510
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 1: say Pennix stars thirty, y're in pretty good shape. I

511
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,639
Speaker 1: think we got to be very careful of like this

512
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Speaker 1: happens a lot during the draft, Like, you know, this

513
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 1: guy reminds me of Miles Garrett. You know who this

514
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 1: tight end, George Kittle? Like no guy. None of these guys,

515
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Speaker 1: like two of these first rounders are going to be

516
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Speaker 1: Pro Bowlers. Actually, most of the good players are gonna

517
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 1: come from the other rounds. That's out. It usually works

518
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Speaker 1: unless this is an outlier draft when a bunch of

519
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,400
Speaker 1: Pro Bowlers come from the first round, which doesn't happen

520
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 1: as often as you think. I feel, like many people

521
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 1: this is from I think Xander Dander Shoffley, not Xander Shoffley.

522
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Speaker 1: But I feel like many people are riding off the

523
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 1: Lions because they're losing both coordinators. But I would argue

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Speaker 1: that the addition of all the defensive players that were

525
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Speaker 1: injured last year being back is a bigger gain than

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Speaker 1: a loss of the coordinators. Hutchinson looked like the best

527
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 1: rusher in the league to start last season, and him

528
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 1: and ten other guys are coming back from injury. They

529
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 1: won fifteen games last year with an injured team. Why

530
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Speaker 1: can't they win twelve or thirteen with all these players back.

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Speaker 1: I totally agree. I'm just trying to beat off the

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Speaker 1: just off the main path a little bit. So why

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Speaker 1: I'm taking the Packers right. You guys have won the

534
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Speaker 1: division what the last two years. Obviously you got a

535
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 1: lot of talent. The offense is loaded, I think defensively,

536
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 1: if you got the Jimmies and the Joe's and you

537
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 1: got one of the best edge rushers, you got some

538
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 1: young players. Brian Branch really player, You've drafted a bunch

539
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 1: of DB's the last couple of years. Scheme matters, But

540
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: like the infrastructure you hired from within, Like I bet

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Speaker 1: they're pretty solid on defense if they're healthy. Even with

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Speaker 1: Aaron Glenn leaving to me offense. We all know this, Like,

543
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 1: when you lose a coordinator, especially an elite coordinator, there

544
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 1: can be a massive drop off, even if the players

545
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 1: are the same. I think that's where you get, like

546
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 1: Ben Johnson to Johnny Morton, Like, why hasn't Johnny Morton

547
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 1: been a dominant offensive coordinator threat his lead career? Everyone

548
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 1: keeps telling me how great of a guy is. I'm

549
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 1: not just or I mean coach he is. I'm sure

550
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 1: he's a great guy. Like I don't know, like Ben

551
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 1: Johnson is, I mean one of the best offensive coordinators

552
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 1: we've seen recently. It's like I got Gruden, I got

553
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell, I got Sean Page, Like I love Johnny Morton.

554
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:54,479
Speaker 1: It's like, well, why didn't you guys make him your

555
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator more often? How many times is Johnny Morton?

556
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Speaker 1: So I guess what I'm saying is he's the guy

557
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Speaker 1: that makes me nervous. So he's offensive coordinator right now.

558
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 1: He was the pass game coordinator the last couple years

559
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 1: of the Broncos. He was there obviously in twenty two

560
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 1: with Dan Campbell's talked about this bringing him back as

561
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 1: a senior offensive consultant. He was the Jets offensive coordinator

562
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen. He was a wide receiver coach for

563
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 1: a long time with the Niners, and then the same

564
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Speaker 1: I just that to me, I'd be more nervous about

565
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 1: than the defense. They just maintained the same thing. Like

566
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 1: does he run the exact same verbiage and offense that

567
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 1: Ben Johnson did? He's clearly not the same. And Ben Johnson,

568
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Speaker 1: I mean pretty you just watch him talk like cerebral,

569
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 1: smart guy. Johnny Martin's got a little more like football

570
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 1: guy vibe. I saw you came out to bowling Brook

571
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 1: for the liv golf tournament. How did you like bowling Brook?

572
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 1: Also based off the offseason move, do you think nine

573
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 1: wins for the Bears is realistic? Have a real expectations

574
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Speaker 1: for them, but don't want to expect too much, you know. Besides,

575
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 1: I just the first hole in the eighteenth hole didn't

576
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 1: I didn't walk the course, so it looked like a

577
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 1: pretty cool venue. Definitely, it was sweet being in the

578
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: little literally in the suite, drinking beers, having some food.

579
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Speaker 1: But I don't have a great feel for the course,

580
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: beside watching them hit down hole one in approach eighteen,

581
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Speaker 1: I would say, on the Bears, if you tell me

582
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: they go by five hundred above five hundred, I would say,

583
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: Caleb's you feel pretty good about Caleb moving forward and

584
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: you just got some positive momentum. To me, the number

585
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: one key for this team is like, do you feel

586
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 1: good at the end of the year. And that would

587
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: be impossible if you win three, four or five games,

588
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 1: But could you win eight nine games and be like

589
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 1: we had the top two or three or four defense

590
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: in the league. And I mean, Denna sounds a really

591
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 1: good defensive coach, and the offense is pretty hit or miss.

592
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: I think you would much rather choose. You know, our

593
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 1: defense was pretty hit or miss, but our offense was

594
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: awesome with Ben Johnson and Kalem. You could argue that's

595
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 1: the only thing that matters, is like you feel good,

596
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 1: your head coach likes the quarterback and the quarterback looks good.

597
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: That to me is more important than you know, you're

598
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: not winning the Super Bowl. You know you're gonna win

599
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 1: a playoff game, probably not either, but like, does your

600
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 1: quarterback look good? A lot of Falcons fans for the

601
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 1: bag as a Falcons fan, I want to get your

602
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,479
Speaker 1: opinion on Raheem. He doesn't call the plays on defense,

603
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: doesn't call the plays on offense, So what is his

604
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 1: role other than being the vocal leader. Time management is

605
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 1: clearly not one of his strong suits, which is evident

606
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 1: from the Falcons commander's game last year, along with clock

607
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 1: management early in the season. In fairness to Raheem, he

608
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 1: is no different than a lot of coaches. Be Harbob

609
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: Brothers do not call the offense, do not call the defense.

610
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll does not all the offense, does not call

611
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 1: the defense. Dan Campbell not call the offense. There are

612
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 1: a ton of quote unquote CEO head coaches in the NFL,

613
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 1: A ton right for every McVeigh and Kyle and even

614
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 1: I guess Andy and Sean Payton. Most guys are not

615
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 1: doing that. Vrabel doesn't call the offense, doesn't call the defense.

616
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 1: Todd Bowles ain't called the defense anymore, or does he.

617
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 1: That might be a bad example, but to me, it's

618
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 1: more about like the structure of what you're looking for,

619
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Speaker 1: and that's what the Hardbob Brothers have shined at. That's

620
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 1: what Dan Campbell is like, broke the lions through with

621
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Speaker 1: can he do that? Because just being the CEO of

622
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 1: a company, Like think about the CEO of most most

623
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 1: like successful companies. They're not like Starbucks hired the dude

624
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 1: from Chipotle. Well guess what, he ain't making the burritos

625
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 1: at Chipotle when Starbucks hires him, Like he ain't pouring

626
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 1: the coffee, right, He's not running an individual store. You

627
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 1: are doing macro visionary things for the company. It's no

628
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 1: different as a CEO and coach. So like, do you

629
00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 1: know what you're doing? Because there have been a lot

630
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 1: of CEO that, like, God, I really like this guy.

631
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: He wasn't very good at a job, and you just

632
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 1: have to wonder, like is this guy actually a number two?

633
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 1: And there are just a lot of those guys like

634
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 1: Robert Solid probably just number two, Vick Fangio number two.

635
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 1: And I've said this forever. If you're gonna be at

636
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,839
Speaker 1: number two, there are a lot of industries where being

637
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: the number two there's a big paid decrease and you're

638
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 1: not even making that much money. In the NFL, being

639
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Speaker 1: the number two, which means being the defensive coordinator if

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Speaker 1: you're a him, pays like four or five million dollars,

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Speaker 1: and you bear no responsibility when people get in trouble,

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Speaker 1: when people get injured. There's so many pressures that are

643
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Speaker 1: not on you. And I've said this forever, even about

644
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Speaker 1: Ben Johnson. Is like, until you get into the firing

645
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Speaker 1: lines and all of a sudden, a defensive player gets

646
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 1: a dui, an offensive player that was your star snaps

647
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 1: his leg, a head coach's wife gets sick. You know,

648
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,439
Speaker 1: all this stuff going on, all that pressure is on you.

649
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 1: That's where it's like, you know, now we're gonna learn

650
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: about Dan Campbell. You know what I know, Dan Campbell

651
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 1: can handle the pressure. I've seen it now schematically, are

652
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 1: they good enough? That to me is the question. But

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Speaker 1: in terms of Dan Campbell handling guys getting injured, guys

654
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Speaker 1: getting arrested, guys getting flagged, guys whatever, unfaced, I have

655
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Speaker 1: full faith like he can handle being a CEO. We

656
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 1: know the hardballs, the Pete Carroll's like those guys we

657
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 1: saw Robert Solid try to be a CEO. Wasn't because

658
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: you know what most CEOs need, they need a lot

659
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Speaker 1: of experience because getting thrust in the main chair. It's

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00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 1: where Sean McVeigh obviously it was difficult, but like he

661
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 1: got to just kind of focus on calling the offensive plays.

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Speaker 1: He had Wade Phillips calling the defense, and it's like

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Speaker 1: he could kind of be tunnel vision earlier in his career,

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Speaker 1: which now he's able to balance both. But raheem like

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Speaker 1: the pressure on them because they spend a bunch of

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Speaker 1: money on Kirk Cousins. The least is pretty short. It's

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Speaker 1: why I think if they miss the playoffs, I think

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00:35:56,040 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: everyone's gonna get fired. The owner's old they bungled the

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Speaker 1: quarterback situation that they didn't have to do so, I

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Speaker 1: you know, based on paying I mean, their backup makes

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Speaker 1: twenty eight million dollars. What was your takeaway from Pete

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Speaker 1: Carroll's first game. I know they started the first half slow,

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Speaker 1: but came back in the second half and blocked the

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Speaker 1: field goal from winning. I'd be lying if I said

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Speaker 1: I watched much of that game. I remember sitting on

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Speaker 1: my couch watching the first first couple drives and like

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Speaker 1: it was a preseason game, I didn't care. I listen Coward.

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Speaker 1: One of his first takes when he got back from

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00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,800
Speaker 1: vacation was Dan Campbell and the Lions were in trouble

680
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: because they lost their two coordinators and he could tell

681
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 1: on the Hall of Fame game, like I disagree with

682
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Speaker 1: making judgments based on the preseason most of these games.

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Speaker 1: And listen, my take on Shador Sanders is not that

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Speaker 1: based on that performance in the first preseason game that

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Speaker 1: he's a future star. My take was simply like the

686
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Speaker 1: head coach better be careful because the momentum is already

687
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Speaker 1: against what he wants to do an on shed or side.

688
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 1: But making plays against second and third string players is

689
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Speaker 1: what you want to do as a player. But that

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Speaker 1: does not guarantee, let alone even translate always to the

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Speaker 1: regular season because it's a completely different sport. There's no

692
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Speaker 1: we're not scheming up against anybody, So preseason is really

693
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Speaker 1: just effort, energy and what does what do your backups

694
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Speaker 1: look like? Right from a talent standpoint, So the judging

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Speaker 1: Pete Carroll off the preseason game, to me is irrelevant.

696
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Speaker 1: Like Pee Carroll is twenty five plus years of showing

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Speaker 1: you what he brings to the table. I'd be very

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Speaker 1: excited to go from I think, you know, Pete Carroll's

699
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 1: resume is a lot longer than verable. But I'll never

700
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Speaker 1: forget And I was when I left the NFL and

701
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,839
Speaker 1: I went into radio. I was around the hardball and

702
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,280
Speaker 1: they fired Jim Harbaugh and they went to Jim Tomsula.

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Speaker 1: I'm very, very confident it is the worst drop off

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Speaker 1: in the history of the NFL. Jim harbought of Jim

705
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 1: Tom Suwa. I don't think they'll ever be a drop

706
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Speaker 1: off in a gap that big between two players. It'd

707
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Speaker 1: be like going from you know, Tom Brady to Brian Hoyer.

708
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Speaker 1: I mean, this is the gap. Couldn't be any bigger, right,

709
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Speaker 1: And I think on the opposite end, going from Girodmeo

710
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Speaker 1: to Vrabel and Antonio appears to Pete Carroll, that's on

711
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Speaker 1: the that's the opposite end of like ascending up. So

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Speaker 1: how good they're gonna be Listen, I don't know if

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Speaker 1: they're talented enough to like win nine games, but they

714
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Speaker 1: are gonna be way better. And Pete Carroll, we know

715
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Speaker 1: he knows what he's doing now. I do think there

716
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Speaker 1: are some question marks, Like Chip Kelly's got a lot

717
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Speaker 1: of friends in the media. You know, for a grumpy

718
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 1: old guy, he's sneaky, pretty good with the media, and

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Speaker 1: everyone loves him. It's like, we sure it's gonna work.

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Speaker 1: I've seen Pete Carroll in the NFL, or excuse me,

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Speaker 1: I've seen Chip Kelly in the NFL and it did

722
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Speaker 1: not work. Now has he adapted his scheme changed, It's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a lot different. I would say the Raiders,

724
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Speaker 1: and this is no one's fault, but like, they don't

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Speaker 1: have great wide receivers. Now they got Brock Bauers, who's

726
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Speaker 1: a stud. You know, Jacoby Meer is a good player.

727
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Speaker 1: But you know, I wouldn't say this is exactly Jordan

728
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 1: justin Jefferson, Jordan Adison rolling out there. So I think

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Speaker 1: you're gonna have limitations, especially what Pete came from in

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Speaker 1: Ohio State, or I mean, excuse me, I get Pete

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Speaker 1: and Chip mixed up. But what Chip was dealing with

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Speaker 1: in Ohio State, which he had a first round wide

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Speaker 1: receiver who went to the Bucks. He has this other

734
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Speaker 1: wide receiver would have been a top five pick this year.

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Speaker 1: He had two running backs who both went in the

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Speaker 1: top thirty five. His left tackle has a had a

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Speaker 1: blown out knee and was drafted in the first round.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the talent on Ohio State was stupid. So

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be a lot different. I'm just I just

740
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Speaker 1: not really into chips offense in the pros when you

741
00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 1: can't stack stack the deck. So I think that's the

742
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 1: big question mark with the Raiders. I think defensively, I

743
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 1: think energy, effort, I think focus like they're gonna be

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Speaker 1: a serious NFL operation. Are you gonna do another top

745
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 1: ten Coaches in the League video like you did last year.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure what the numbers were, but it seemed

747
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Speaker 1: like it was a big hit. I'm curious to see

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Speaker 1: if guys like Sean Payton make it on the list

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Speaker 1: a year after being omitted last year, and does Kevin

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Speaker 1: O'Connell get a spot. That's a good idea. Actually, let

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Speaker 1: me take a little note. I think we did something

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Speaker 1: last year for social and it flew up. I would

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Speaker 1: say that both those guys would be on the list. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I mean, listen, Sean Payton's one of the best coaches

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Speaker 1: in the league. There's no disputing that it was just hard.

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Speaker 1: After the Russell Wilson situation, they had a game where

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Speaker 1: they gave up seventy points. So last I did not

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Speaker 1: see that coming last year. I did not blew me away,

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Speaker 1: And listen, I'm critical of Kevin O'Connell, because I think

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Speaker 1: it's fair to be like why doesn't Lamar play better

761
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,399
Speaker 1: in the playoffs? Right? Like why doesn't Kevin O'Connell coach

762
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 1: better in the playoffs? Like that's a fair happens in

763
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 1: basketball all the time with like what's up with James

764
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 1: Harden in the playoffs? What's up with it? Like why

765
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 1: doesn't Joel Embiid suck in the playoffs? Like you can

766
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 1: ask these questions, and no one likes to ask these questions.

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00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 1: That's all I'm doing. Like I've never acted like I

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00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: wouldn't want Kevin O'Connell as my coach. But he's had

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Speaker 1: a couple of playoff games with teams that won twelve

770
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 1: and like fourteen games. We lost them both as favorites.

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00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: That happens, that's a fact. I'm not funer opaion. Why

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Speaker 1: is nobody talking about the obvious issue with the NFL

773
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 1: having equity in ESPN? It's a complete conflict of interest.

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Speaker 1: How can I trust the journalistic integrity of ESPN's content?

775
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:04,240
Speaker 1: For context, I'm a CPA, an auditor in public accounting,

776
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 1: and I must remain independent at all times from my clients.

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00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:11,959
Speaker 1: My independence must be both in fact, I cannot own

778
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 1: stock equity and in appearance, I can't take favors, tickets, gifts.

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00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 1: The NFL ESPN deal doesn't have either. That's because they're

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Speaker 1: not in the journalist business. Journalism, I would say, is

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00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 1: dying a hard death. And I think a big reason

782
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 1: why is we can't monetize it like we once could.

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00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 1: We used to be able to monetize a lot of

784
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Speaker 1: things that came with ESPN. ESPN the magazine, ESPN, the website.

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00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 1: Those don't matter as much anymore. You know what does

786
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 1: the games, which equate to all of the revenue for

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Speaker 1: ESPN and bring the value. It's why they spent all

788
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Speaker 1: this money on the NBA, and it's why they spend

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Speaker 1: all this money on the NFL. You know why, because

790
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 1: they want those properties on their and same with college

791
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 1: football and college basketball. They want the games. That's the

792
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 1: business they're in. They don't care about someone writing an

793
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 1: article about Roger Goodell doesn't make them any money. And

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00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 1: they're not in the charity business. They're in the profit business.

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00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 1: So there's a reason why. About a decade ago, when

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00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:18,399
Speaker 1: the written word started to slow down and a lot

797
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 1: of big j's got really mad, it's like, guys, the

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00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: reason newspapers dominated for so long is they were an

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00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:31,399
Speaker 1: advertising distribution network. Well as humans stopped buying the newspapers,

800
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 1: newspapers didn't generate the same amount of money and didn't

801
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 1: have the same power, so they started laying you off.

802
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 1: They didn't lay you off because they hate the written word.

803
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:44,959
Speaker 1: It just didn't profit anymore. ESPN their top shows non

804
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: games are like get up in first Take that have

805
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: nothing to do with journalism. I've seen a lot of people,

806
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 1: and I think the media cares about this way more.

807
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 1: I understand where you're coming from, because you're in this

808
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: world of conflicts of interest. You know what? The only

809
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 1: interest for ESPN iss how do we get more? And

810
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 1: but in bed with the NFL, how do we get

811
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 1: more games? How do we get a super Bowl? How

812
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: do we get more NFL? That's the business they're in

813
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 1: that they're not worried about. Hey, Seth Wickersham, who is

814
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 1: good what he can and can't write? That's completely irrelevant.

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00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 1: It just is so the days of like, and I've

816
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 1: seen a lot of people, what's gonna happen with the

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Speaker 1: journalistic integrity? Do you just see what they're talking about?

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Speaker 1: On First Take, like where's the journalistic integerty, Like what

819
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 1: were we even talking about? Is all entertainment and they

820
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 1: are in the business of getting involved in getting the games,

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Speaker 1: so you do whatever it takes to get the games.

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Speaker 1: I also think the NFL, for the most part, they

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Speaker 1: don't get mad at people talking about individual teams and

824
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:58,320
Speaker 1: honestly even the individual owners. The only time ESPN had trouble,

825
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 1: which rightfully so, they had a lot of journalists rooting

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Speaker 1: for football to go under. I mean that was a fact.

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Speaker 1: I mean football is the biggest sport, it's the most

828
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Speaker 1: profitable sport, even at the time, and there were a

829
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 1: lot of people on their network rooting for it to

830
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 1: basically go bankrupt essentially, and Bill Simmons got in trouble

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00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 1: going after Goodell. So when you go after the individual

832
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 1: commissioner or the health of the league. But like you

833
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 1: can rip on the coaches and players as much as

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Speaker 1: you want, I mean, First Take does it every day.

835
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Speaker 1: No one cares. So I actually don't think anything's really

836
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 1: gonna change from what ESPN has been. But if journalism

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00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 1: was more important to the consumer, newspapers would still be thriving.

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00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 1: But they're not, you know, so I think that's overblown.

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00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: I guess would my overall take be about ESPN's responsibility

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00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 1: to journalism. And let's be real, most listen, I respect

841
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: like being a journalist and doing it the right way

842
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 1: is really difficul But I would say that most journalists

843
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 1: have become activists. So you could argue that a lot

844
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 1: of journalism what used to be twenty thirty years ago,

845
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:17,320
Speaker 1: has died. Got me entertained by golf. I'm from Houston,

846
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 1: but I grew up a Packer fan. Thoughts on Texans

847
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 1: versus Packers in the Super Bowl. I think the Texans

848
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:27,800
Speaker 1: defense is going to be elite. I think their defense

849
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Speaker 1: is going to be so good now the only question

850
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,320
Speaker 1: is going to be the offensive coordinator. Can c J

851
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 1: bounce back? If their offense is solid, they're gonna be

852
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 1: pretty good. Obviously the Packers are going you know, Love's hurt.

853
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:43,720
Speaker 1: I think is Jayden Reid hurt? They got some injuries

854
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 1: right now, it's August thirteenth. I'm pretty high on the Packers.

855
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna bet them to I'm gonna do like I

856
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: was looking at this the other day, I'm gonna do

857
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 1: a couple different parlays and my go tos are gonna

858
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:57,919
Speaker 1: consistently be the Packers to win that division at plus

859
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 1: two fifty, and the Texans are my lock. So the

860
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: Texans at plus one ten are my anchor. And then

861
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do like multiple different parlays with the Packers.

862
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 1: I might even throw the Vikings in there too, the

863
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 1: Niners to win the division, the Broncos and the Chiefs

864
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 1: to win the division. I'm gonna mess with a couple

865
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 1: of those, but I'm going to anchor on the Houston

866
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,879
Speaker 1: Texans at plus one ten. If you said right now,

867
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 1: you have to throw an uncomfortable amount of money on

868
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 1: one team in the NFL to win the division, and

869
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 1: they can't have like minus odds like the Bills or

870
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 1: the Ravens, right, can't do that, or the Eagles. I

871
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 1: can't bet on those teams. You got to bet a

872
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 1: team that is plus odds, right, it wouldn't even be

873
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 1: a hesitation to be the Houston Texas. I think they

874
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 1: win that division by several games. Were you around for

875
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 1: Super Bowl fifty and I know what the right and

876
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 1: I want to know what the right way is to

877
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 1: experience this upcoming Super Bowl sixty in the Bay Area

878
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 1: I'm from northern California and would love to go to

879
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,840
Speaker 1: the home. Would love to go home to experienced the event.

880
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 1: If the Niners aren't in the show. Hopefully the actual

881
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 1: SF city gets involved in, not just Santa Clara. I did.

882
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 1: I did my radio show from Radio Row. All the

883
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 1: events will be in San Francisco. The only thing in

884
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 1: Santa Clara was the games, and I think a team

885
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 1: stayed down there and they practice like San Jose. But

886
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 1: the super Bowl experience, which was really well done in

887
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,839
Speaker 1: the Convention Center, like right in downtown San Francisco on

888
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 1: like Third Street. It's like Third and I forget the

889
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 1: other cross street. I haven't been downtown in years, but

890
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 1: it's like three or four streets south of Market. Yeah,

891
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,839
Speaker 1: it's cool. I mean, it's a cool experience. I would

892
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:48,399
Speaker 1: recommend it if you want to go to the Super

893
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 1: Bowl experience. It's just fun. It's just easy event to

894
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: just kind of walk around and kind of take it

895
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 1: all in. I actually went to that game as well.

896
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 1: The super Bowl. The game is the game is much

897
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 1: more like a corporate experience. I would say the whole

898
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 1: week it's just like a corporate event. It is like

899
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 1: a corporate Football convention for the fans and the partners.

900
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 1: It's not if you go like Chiefs Bills right in

901
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 1: an AFC championship game or regular season game or Eagles Washington,

902
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 1: wherever that game is being played. It's about the football

903
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 1: and the purity of trying to win and the fans

904
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 1: all there. The Super Bowl is not really like that

905
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 1: Super Bowl's I feel like it's the NFL's way to

906
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,720
Speaker 1: say thank you to all their partners. So the reason

907
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 1: I went to the game was because I was there

908
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 1: with my cousin who worked in the beer business. So

909
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 1: that's where we got our tickets from, Like Miller course,

910
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 1: you know, it's most of the tickets, and most of

911
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:55,320
Speaker 1: the people were not like, you know, it's Broncos Panthers.

912
00:49:55,400 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 1: But it didn't feel like some huge contingent of you know,

913
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:03,840
Speaker 1: it wasn't like fifty to fifty Broncos. That's not what

914
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 1: it's like. So it's just the games unique. But that

915
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 1: that week, especially Thursday, Friday, Saturday, are pretty cool. And

916
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 1: I was there in Vegas too. I mean, shit, I've

917
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 1: been to I've only been to the game once, but

918
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 1: I've been to Miami, I've been to Vegas, I've been

919
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 1: to New Orleans, so it's cool. It's fun. Uh In.

920
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 1: Congrats on your success moving to Kelly love hearing your

921
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 1: investments you're into. Do we think? Someone asked me the

922
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 1: other day because I had made a comment about like, hey,

923
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 1: I'm investing in this one stock that is not very pretty,

924
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 1: but if it hits somebody to be really rich. It

925
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 1: was open Door, which I'm still in. I've actually added more.

926
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,319
Speaker 1: I had a day where I was down seventy five

927
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 1: percent and within a week that stock was up one

928
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 1: hundred percent. It's the craziest shift, and I have a

929
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 1: sizable chunk of money relative to my net worth in

930
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 1: the stock. I didn't sell a penny, but riding that

931
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 1: I was actually insecure to brag about it, because at

932
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,800
Speaker 1: the time, I think I was minus seventy eight percent

933
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:12,799
Speaker 1: when I opened up stock, probably a month ago or

934
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 1: two months whenever I brought it up, and I had

935
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 1: a couple of people like, what was the what's that

936
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 1: stock you're in that you think it hit big? I

937
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:21,760
Speaker 1: was not confident enough to even mention it to anyone

938
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:23,800
Speaker 1: else because it could have gone to zero. But I

939
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 1: was like, I'm fucking I'm like Chris Ballard hoping anti hoping,

940
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 1: Anthea Richardson is the next Josh Allen with open door

941
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, I don't know if

942
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:36,799
Speaker 1: it was in the meme craze, the the uh short Squeeze.

943
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 1: It's one of the craziest seeing the amount of money

944
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 1: I was down to the amount of money I was up,

945
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 1: but I was like, hey, I was in this for

946
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 1: the long haul to try to get a twenty exer,

947
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 1: not just a one exer. But then it came down

948
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 1: and I'm basically up like ten percent now. But it

949
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 1: was it was a fun little ride. I would have

950
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 1: sold if I would have been for early to like,

951
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:00,040
Speaker 1: I've been doing this long enough to kind of be

952
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,839
Speaker 1: numb to that. And I thought about him, like, should

953
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 1: I just take a look some little cash spending money?

954
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 1: Do we think Trayvon Henderson has a shot to be

955
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 1: the next Gibbs? Did you see his first touchdown ever?

956
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 1: Win for a touchdown? Listen, He's a home run hitter.

957
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:16,439
Speaker 1: You get that dude in open grass. He can fly.

958
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 1: I think here's the thing with Gibbs. Gibbs as good

959
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 1: at everything. He can run inside, he can run off tackle,

960
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 1: and he is elite at catching the ball. So the

961
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 1: way to be Gibbs is you basically have to be

962
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 1: able to do it all. And you know, I would

963
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 1: imagine Vrabel and those guys now with a month into

964
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 1: training camp, have a better idea how he is out

965
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 1: of the backfield catching the football. But I'd also say

966
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 1: that looking at his he had twenty seven catches last year.

967
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 1: He had twenty seven catches as a rookie, So he

968
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:53,800
Speaker 1: can catch the ball. We know that Josh McDaniels loves

969
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:57,879
Speaker 1: throwing the ball to you know, they had how many

970
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 1: running backs they have over the years with Brady that

971
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 1: they passed to a lot out of the backfield. I mean, hell,

972
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 1: probably six seven years ago, maybe even less, I played

973
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 1: golf in the Bay Area with Shane Vereen. He was

974
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 1: working at the Pac twelve network, and I probably for

975
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 1: nine of the eighteen holes, I was just peppering him

976
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:22,360
Speaker 1: with McDaniels, Belichick, Brady grownk questions. I mean, he was

977
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 1: really really good and then he got a big contract

978
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 1: to go to the Giants. Then he got injured. But

979
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 1: he he's a good example. He was really good out

980
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 1: of the backfield. He was excellent in the open field

981
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 1: as a runner. So if you can catch the ball

982
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 1: with Josh McDaniels in that offense. We know that vraybeloffs

983
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 1: running backs. I don't see why he couldn't be an

984
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 1: excellent player like Gibbs. He's really fast. Yeah, I mean,

985
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 1: i'd be pretty bullish on the guy. He's a home

986
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 1: run hitter, so I'd say that's what him and Gibbs

987
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 1: Sharon common. These past few weeks, I've seen quite a

988
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 1: bit of media segments dedicated yet again to brock Perty.

989
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 1: Of course, it's always polarizing if he goes for something

990
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,320
Speaker 1: in the realm of four thousand yards, twenty eight touchdowns,

991
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:05,280
Speaker 1: twelve one seasons. Do you think pundits in big audience

992
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 1: legacy media shows will start to finally credit him as

993
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 1: an undisputed top twelve quarterback. I even saw in Sando's

994
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 1: quarterback tiers that Dak Prescott was above him. Jordan Love

995
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 1: was as well, which Rock Purty's had a better start

996
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 1: to his career than Jordan Love. That's not really debatable. Yeah,

997
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 1: if you wanted to argue that Jordan loves more physical

998
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 1: traits and you're betting on the physical traits this year,

999
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 1: it's like I could hear that argument, but based on

1000
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 1: the evidence, Rock Perty's been a better player in Jordan

1001
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:35,320
Speaker 1: Love and it's not even arguable when it comes to

1002
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, I mean, one of the all time meltdown

1003
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 1: guys in the playoffs. But one of the quotes in

1004
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 1: there was why do we keep talking about the drafts

1005
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 1: and his draft status? It's over years ago. All this

1006
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:51,360
Speaker 1: guy does is make plays on the field, and I

1007
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:53,760
Speaker 1: just think that it's And they also compared him to Baker.

1008
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 1: Baker's more physically gifted from an arm strength standpoint, but

1009
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 1: this coach said that he thought that Party is just

1010
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:04,799
Speaker 1: better anticipatory thrower and sees it a little bit better,

1011
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 1: pretty really good. Yet everyone shits on him because and

1012
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:11,839
Speaker 1: if Perty was the third overall pick and have been

1013
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:14,439
Speaker 1: Trey Lance and Trey Lance is just Donill Brock Party,

1014
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 1: everyone would be saying the guy's the top six seven

1015
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 1: quarterback in the league. Five to six quarterback. Ben said

1016
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 1: he's the last pick in the draft. Everyone says too short,

1017
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 1: he's arm sucks. Kyle Shitnan. Same thing with Jalen Hurts,

1018
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 1: and I saw a bunch of people like God, Jalen

1019
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 1: Hurts is behind CJ. Stroud and Justin Herbert. I do

1020
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 1: not understand why people get so caught up on this.

1021
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:37,359
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, football is a team game.

1022
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:39,839
Speaker 1: And if you're an Eagles fan, would you rather have

1023
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow in the like in the Bengals season, Well, hey,

1024
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:45,360
Speaker 1: everyone annoints my quarterback is one of the best players

1025
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:48,240
Speaker 1: in the league, My team goes nine wins, my quarterback

1026
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:50,320
Speaker 1: throws forty five touchdowns. Or would you rather be the

1027
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 1: Eagles where everyone's like, hey, maybe he's a top ten quarterback,

1028
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 1: but we have the best team in the league and

1029
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 1: he won the Super Bowl? Like this, This isn't fucking

1030
00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 1: tennis or golf. It's a team game. So same thing

1031
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 1: with brock Perty Last time I checked, Joe Montana, had

1032
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 1: Ronnie Lott playing defense, had Charles Haley rushing the passer,

1033
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:12,479
Speaker 1: threw it to Jared Rice, handed to Roger Craig. Had

1034
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 1: you know, some pretty good players Dwight Clark, you know,

1035
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 1: barreling down the scene, Like it's hard to be a

1036
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:24,799
Speaker 1: good player at quarterback, Like ask Patrick Mahomes what it

1037
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 1: was like to be a rookie throwing do Travis Kelcey

1038
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:30,239
Speaker 1: and Tyreek Hill probably didn't suck. If you could have

1039
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:33,880
Speaker 1: beers with one person currently employed by an NFL team,

1040
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 1: who would it be? Can't be a player, coach, or executive,

1041
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:41,319
Speaker 1: someone you've met before or never met before. Oh, it

1042
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 1: can be a coach or an executive. Just someone you

1043
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 1: think would be a lot of fun and an interesting hang. Well,

1044
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:49,319
Speaker 1: I think you'd have to go. You'd have to take

1045
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 1: make two decisions. If you're gonna go a player, you'd

1046
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 1: have to go quarterback. And I'm pretty confident if I

1047
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 1: spend time with someone, especially in that setting. I always

1048
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 1: thought this when I was single, I could punch above

1049
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 1: my weight. The hardest thing for me to do with

1050
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 1: the beautiful girl was to get the date. If I

1051
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 1: got the date, like we were always gonna, I was

1052
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:12,320
Speaker 1: gonna be okay right a home. I had on personality,

1053
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 1: but I was never gonna look like Tom Brady walking

1054
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 1: in the room. But if you got me the one

1055
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 1: on one and like went out to dinner like, it's

1056
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 1: gonna be successful. If I wanted to be I was

1057
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 1: that confident in my ability. I wasn't always confident like

1058
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 1: sometimes it was hard to get that like her to

1059
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 1: be like whether in a bar situation, whether it be

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00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 1: especially you know, internet dating, Like I'm I'm not Brad

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00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 1: pitt here, I would say the same thing in that situation.

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00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 1: So if you gave me a one on one over

1063
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 1: beers like we're gonna get build a relationship and have friendship. Right,

1064
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 1: So it would be either a if you're gonna pick

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00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 1: a coach you would want. Luckily, I already I already

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00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 1: know some guys, but it would be a guy I

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00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 1: didn't know, and a guy is gonna have a lot

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00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 1: of success, right. I don't know Shanahan, but Shandy is

1069
00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 1: not a big, like bullshit hang out with the media guy, right,

1070
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 1: So even if I got in that situation, I think

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00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 1: it would be a tough nut to crack. I think

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00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 1: the two guys would be if it was a coach.

1073
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell, who listen, I've been hard on him, but

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00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 1: Andy Reid didn't win a Super Bowl to he was

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00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 1: like twenty plus years in the league. So it's like,

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00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 1: who's to say Kevin O'Connell couldn't have like a twenty

1077
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 1: year run of being a great coach and Sean McVay

1078
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 1: already has one, but like he's forty years old, he's

1079
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 1: not going away, and even if he pivoted to, like,

1080
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 1: I don't know, be the analyst from Monday Night Football,

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00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:29,440
Speaker 1: he'd just be a good guy to have. So'd probably

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00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 1: one of those two guys. From a coaching standpoint, if

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00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 1: you went quarterback, you would say, well, why would I

1084
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 1: overthink this. I could just pick Mahomes because he's not

1085
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 1: going away, his team's not going away. He's one of

1086
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 1: the most famous athletes in the world, I guess in America,

1087
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 1: but like in the sport that we talk about here,

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00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 1: So you could go him. You could go like I

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00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 1: go Jayden Daniels and go, well, what if he just

1090
00:58:56,440 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 1: becomes I mean, the next superstar, little risky could also

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00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 1: just like could have a step back year then maybe solid,

1092
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 1: but he's never like a superstar. I think I'd probably

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00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 1: it would either be probably Mahomes or one of those

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00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:18,480
Speaker 1: two coaches would probably be my final answer. I guess

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00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 1: it could go Josh Allen. You would want a player

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00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 1: who was gonna and it'd have to be a quarterback,

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00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 1: was gonna be around for a long time and be

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00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 1: a good personality, good interview guy you want to be.

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00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 1: In your opinion, what are the odds a team successfully

1100
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 1: trades for Tanner McKey of the Eagles this season. I'm

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00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 1: an Eagles fan, so I'm biased, but every time the

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00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 1: kid touches the field, he looks like a starter. I

1103
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:02,880
Speaker 1: just would not trade him if I was Philadelphia because

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01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 1: and how he's talked about this. No team in NFL

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01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 1: history has benefited more from the uh. I can't spell

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01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 1: his name McKee from the backup quarterback, right, I mean,

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01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:22,520
Speaker 1: Jalen's not a backup quarterback obviously, but he was drafted

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01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 1: to be a backup quarterback, and then they went too

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01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:26,960
Speaker 1: Super Bowls with him one to one. They also won

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Speaker 1: another super Bowl with the backup quarterback. So Tanner McKee,

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01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 1: what year was he drafted? Twenty three? So twenty three

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01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 1: twenty four he got him un a contract for two

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Speaker 1: more years. I don't I wouldn't even give him up

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Speaker 1: for a second round pick. What if Jalen just like

1115
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 1: broke his leg? I mean, what if something happened, like

1116
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 1: you could feel like you could keep winning with Tanner McKee.

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01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:51,960
Speaker 1: So to me, you wouldn't entertain trading him till next

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01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 1: year when it's like, well he's not we're not going

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01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:57,760
Speaker 1: to extend him, So you trade him, I think, you

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Speaker 1: keep him, I think, and he's staying on my team,

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01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 1: and then you try to flip maybe next year. But

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01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 1: I'm not giving up Tanner McKee. And I'd be stunned

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Speaker 1: of how he did now if someone offered you a

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Speaker 1: first round pick right now, It's like, this doesn't get

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Speaker 1: much better than that. But I don't think that's on

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01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:17,960
Speaker 1: the table, and a lot of teams don't necessarily need quarterbacks.

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01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 1: But I I don't know if I could do it,

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Speaker 1: you know. And I think the parallel probably to Tanner

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01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 1: McKee would be Matt schob when he was in Atlanta

1130
01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 1: and Jimmy Garoppolo when he was in San Francisco. So

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01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 1: his value to the Eagles right now because listen, they

1132
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 1: had Carson Wentz fall off a cliff, and they had,

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01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:41,280
Speaker 1: you know, for Jalen to come in, and they had

1134
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:44,120
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz tearor his acl So they've been they've seen

1135
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 1: it multiple ways. You just never know. Now Jalen, I

1136
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna fall off a cliff playing wise,

1137
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 1: but shit, the way I mean, he's a runner, he'd

1138
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 1: get injured. He's miss games before, so I would not

1139
01:01:58,160 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 1: I would not trade him right now unless I got

1140
01:01:59,920 --> 01:02:01,960
Speaker 1: the first round pick, which you're not kidding right now,

1141
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:04,640
Speaker 1: But like, what about next offseason? What if the Raiders

1142
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 1: give you a second you know might be a bad example,

1143
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 1: but some team whoever, that is question for you. My

1144
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 1: wife and I are going to Scottsdale in November. Any

1145
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 1: suggestions on places to eat or things to do? We

1146
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:21,480
Speaker 1: will be near TPC Scottsdale. I know you are answered

1147
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 1: this a couple of times. I would say The Princess

1148
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 1: has pretty cool open bar. They have a really good

1149
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:31,440
Speaker 1: restaurant called La Hacienda in the Prince is the hotel

1150
01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:36,160
Speaker 1: on the backside of TBC Scottsdale. It's hard to beat

1151
01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:43,040
Speaker 1: the really good steakhouses Dominick's which is in Kierland, and Mastros,

1152
01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 1: which is kind of up the street from TBC Scottsdale,

1153
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:49,120
Speaker 1: which are just elite steakhouses. If you wanted like a

1154
01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:51,680
Speaker 1: hole in the wall guy Fiery Diners, Drivings and dives

1155
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:57,520
Speaker 1: Toom's thumb, is this barbecue joint in a gas station.

1156
01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:01,680
Speaker 1: It's incredible. I get Thanksgiving hated from there. It's elite.

1157
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:07,040
Speaker 1: So I'd say Dominic's, Mastros, Lascienda slash the princess bar

1158
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 1: and thomps thumb. Okay, last question. First, is an average golfer,

1159
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:14,920
Speaker 1: I'm curious what type of games, if any, games you

1160
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:16,840
Speaker 1: play on the course. Scramble is fun if you're not

1161
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:20,040
Speaker 1: worried about your own score. Two verse two. We do

1162
01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:22,240
Speaker 1: this game where you kind of if you're playing four guys,

1163
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:25,520
Speaker 1: you rotate every three holes with a different partner. You

1164
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 1: also play junk like Birdie's outside putts of the flagstick

1165
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 1: up and downs from the sand closer to the pen,

1166
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 1: stuff like that, which is a pretty easy game. I mean,

1167
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:39,920
Speaker 1: when I play my brother, we just play a straight

1168
01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 1: up like match play if I'm doing a one on one.

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01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:46,200
Speaker 1: I haven't done a scramble in a long time. Just

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Speaker 1: by following your podcast for a while, it seems like

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Speaker 1: most of your connections nowadays are within the Niners, Eagles, Chiefs.

1172
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:54,120
Speaker 1: If give an opportunity, which organization would you want to

1173
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:55,960
Speaker 1: be involved in the front off decision making for the

1174
01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:57,920
Speaker 1: next five to ten years. Chiefs seems to be the

1175
01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:01,040
Speaker 1: obvious answer, But when thinking about Andy's age, Eagles youth,

1176
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:07,200
Speaker 1: Kyle's youth so on, it gets like a tougher decision. Yeah,

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01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:09,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I'd look at it from the standpoint of

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01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:20,600
Speaker 1: those three organizations are just in a way, they're just

1179
01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:24,480
Speaker 1: all well run, you know. I think the Eagles in

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01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:27,560
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers, financially, I think they put out

1181
01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:31,520
Speaker 1: like the top twenty teams or whatever their valuations, which

1182
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 1: if the Lakers win for ten billion dollars, the Cowboys,

1183
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:39,560
Speaker 1: the Giants, the forty nine Ers, I mean, these are

1184
01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:43,480
Speaker 1: fifteen twenty billion dollar franchise the Eagles would sell for

1185
01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:45,080
Speaker 1: more than the Lakers. And that's not like I'm not

1186
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:47,280
Speaker 1: acting like the Lakers aren't some big time brand, but

1187
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:52,040
Speaker 1: the power of the NFL, the revenue streams, and I

1188
01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:54,960
Speaker 1: think the money that Andy and Mahomes now have made

1189
01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:58,080
Speaker 1: Clark Hunt in the value of that franchise over the

1190
01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:03,280
Speaker 1: last six seven years, they're just all Like I know

1191
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:05,440
Speaker 1: John Lynch, like I've met him before, I've had him

1192
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:08,560
Speaker 1: on my other podcast years ago, but like I can't

1193
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:11,600
Speaker 1: speak to how he is as like an evaluator beside

1194
01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:14,040
Speaker 1: just watching who he drafts, like I've been around Veach

1195
01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:15,800
Speaker 1: and how he like those guys are really good at

1196
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:18,520
Speaker 1: their jobs, I mean really good. I mean how he's

1197
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 1: one of the most dynamic guys in all of sports.

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01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:25,840
Speaker 1: Veach just is a really good natural like talent selector,

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01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:28,760
Speaker 1: and obviously his rapport with the head coach and how

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01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:31,880
Speaker 1: he's ability to kind of manage the whole thing. I think,

1201
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:34,520
Speaker 1: you know, the Niners really benefit. Like Kyle's just really

1202
01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:37,120
Speaker 1: pretty special X's nose guy. You know, he's one of

1203
01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:40,400
Speaker 1: the few guys and let's you can nitpick him and

1204
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 1: I do, but like he's a really really talented coach. Uh,

1205
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:46,960
Speaker 1: He's just a coaching lifer, you know, been around it

1206
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:50,760
Speaker 1: from the moment he could walk. And I think those

1207
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 1: guys really benefit from the financial backing, the fan backing,

1208
01:05:56,440 --> 01:06:00,080
Speaker 1: the talented guys they have within the organization. But I

1209
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 1: think you could say that, like I don't know him personally,

1210
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:06,680
Speaker 1: but I was texting a buddy in the NFL who

1211
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:08,600
Speaker 1: works for a playoff team, not one of those teams, like,

1212
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 1: what do you think of Brandon Bean because I've just

1213
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:13,520
Speaker 1: seen Brandon a bunch like doing different interviews. I've never

1214
01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:15,640
Speaker 1: met the guy. And the guy was like, I really

1215
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:17,400
Speaker 1: like him. I was like, I do too. I just

1216
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:20,280
Speaker 1: think he's he just kind of got an easy going vibe,

1217
01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:24,520
Speaker 1: clearly good at his job, has like an low ego vibe.

1218
01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:29,720
Speaker 1: But he also you know, for example, like let's use

1219
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers like Kyle and John are comfortable

1220
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:35,960
Speaker 1: in front of a camera and they don't mind. Like

1221
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:38,200
Speaker 1: Kyle doesn't like doing it, but he's he's good at

1222
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:40,000
Speaker 1: it if he wants to do it. Like Sean McDermot,

1223
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:42,720
Speaker 1: that's not really his thing. So part of Brandon Bean's

1224
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:45,680
Speaker 1: job the day and age of guy like the GM

1225
01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:48,200
Speaker 1: just sitting in a dark room watching players is dead.

1226
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:50,200
Speaker 1: Trent Balke love doing that. Just get him in a

1227
01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:51,920
Speaker 1: dark room. He just watched players all day. It's like,

1228
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:54,400
Speaker 1: that's not your fucking job. Like part of Brandon Bean's

1229
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:56,919
Speaker 1: job is like to be the messenger for the bills

1230
01:06:56,960 --> 01:06:59,240
Speaker 1: because Sean McDermott's not really that big on that, which

1231
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:01,480
Speaker 1: is fine, has to be if you're in a business

1232
01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:05,000
Speaker 1: partnership with someone else, hopefully they bring things to the

1233
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:07,360
Speaker 1: table that you don't. We got a lot of people

1234
01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:12,160
Speaker 1: that are involved with this podcast that are strong at

1235
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:15,560
Speaker 1: social media, that are doing cutups, that are doing the

1236
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:18,480
Speaker 1: graphic stuff. I can't do any of that, you know,

1237
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:21,600
Speaker 1: even the sales aspect, Like if you get me on

1238
01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:25,000
Speaker 1: a call with company X, I can handle myself, but

1239
01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:27,800
Speaker 1: I don't have a connection to get Walmart on the

1240
01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:31,800
Speaker 1: phone or Microsoft on the phone, So like you need

1241
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:34,600
Speaker 1: to be in business with other people that the distribution

1242
01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:38,120
Speaker 1: that Colin brings. I can't create that. So it's like

1243
01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:40,120
Speaker 1: the ebb and flow of a coach and a GM

1244
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:42,560
Speaker 1: and like Sirianni and Howie bring that to the table,

1245
01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:46,480
Speaker 1: like they balance each other out, and I think you can.

1246
01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:48,640
Speaker 1: The Bills are well run. The Ravens are well run.

1247
01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:51,240
Speaker 1: Like all these organiza they're going nowhere, they have well

1248
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:54,000
Speaker 1: they have people that know what they're doing, and they

1249
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:55,840
Speaker 1: have a lot of money behind it, you know. I

1250
01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:59,240
Speaker 1: think that's part of the problem. I interviewed Greg Olsen

1251
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:02,200
Speaker 1: today and it'll out next week, and one thing he

1252
01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:03,720
Speaker 1: talked about is like you're on the phone with some

1253
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:06,080
Speaker 1: of these teams when you're doing these games over the

1254
01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:08,680
Speaker 1: last three or four years, and you can just tell

1255
01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:12,000
Speaker 1: you're like, this team is fucked people. They just don't

1256
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:15,320
Speaker 1: know what they're doing, and like you just can't fake

1257
01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:19,800
Speaker 1: it because the games happen. And then it's why, like

1258
01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:22,439
Speaker 1: it is pretty easy for me to be critical of

1259
01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:26,840
Speaker 1: things that I see from a team operational standpoint, because

1260
01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:28,720
Speaker 1: I've bet around people that know what they're doing. I mean,

1261
01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:31,679
Speaker 1: I'm very fortunate. I didn't know anyone in the NFL,

1262
01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:34,879
Speaker 1: not a soul, I mean not My dad was a farmer.

1263
01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:37,760
Speaker 1: And the team that hired me had Howie Roseman as

1264
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:40,439
Speaker 1: the gym and Andy Reid as the head coach. So

1265
01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:43,439
Speaker 1: it's like that is my experience. And then right when

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Speaker 1: I got out, I got to watch Jim Harbobby the

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Speaker 1: head coach of the forty nine ers for two years.

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Speaker 1: It's like, so basically my experience in the NFL was

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Speaker 1: just seeing that front and center. For my first like

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Speaker 1: five years of being my first five years being around

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Speaker 1: the NFL, I was around that. So that's kind of

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Speaker 1: like you just watch some of these operations, You're like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if these people know they're doing. And listen,

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Speaker 1: everyone Bill Walsh had shitty games, right, Belichick had bad.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying you could have bad. You can have

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Speaker 1: bad season, but it's pretty clear who's good. Dudes not right,

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Speaker 1: And I think part of it is experience and you learn.

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Speaker 1: I would bet on all three of those teams they're

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Speaker 1: gonna be good for a while. I would say, you know,

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Speaker 1: if Andy were to retire, I see, I don't think

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Speaker 1: he's gonna retire as long as he's healthy, Like he's

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Speaker 1: going nowhere. So you look at their guys, like where

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Speaker 1: would Howie go? Where would Andy and Veach go? They

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Speaker 1: don't want to go anywhere, and where would Kyle go?

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Speaker 1: So it's like, as long as you got those guys.

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Speaker 1: I mean, John's important, and obviously they need to draft well,

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Speaker 1: but the star of the forty nine ers, even with

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Speaker 1: perty making one hundred and eighty million, is the head coach,

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Speaker 1: you know. And Andy was the star of his organization

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Speaker 1: for a long time until Patrick Mahome showed up. So

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Speaker 1: I would rather have I'd rather have my quarterback front

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Speaker 1: center kind of like the Patriots forever, and then have

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Speaker 1: my head coach basically B one B. But I think

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Speaker 1: all the organizations are in pretty good still us okay,

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Speaker 1: end on that Audiels have a great dey talk to

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Speaker 1: everyone soon s the volume