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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club, blowing out of the backfield,

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Speaker 1: exploding down the sidelines. This He's Hanging with the Boys,

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Speaker 1: presented by Wing Stuff, where Flavor gets its wings. Now

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Speaker 1: your hosts Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross. Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: let's go hanging with the Boys. Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly.

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Speaker 1: We're natelst today. Oh we got Jesse in the big chair,

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Speaker 1: the big Fellas chair. You're looking live at Tostitos Championship

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Speaker 1: Plaza outside Ford Center at the Star in Frisco. It

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Speaker 1: is eighty five degrees. It feels like ninety one. We

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Speaker 1: have a high today of ninety eight. The load tonight

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Speaker 1: seventy six. It's a beautiful Texas. Is it fall yet

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Speaker 1: or is it still considered summer? Still summer? Still summer.

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Speaker 1: We got practice outside today at eleven fifteen, um, but

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Speaker 1: you could join us. Yeah, I had to. I was

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Speaker 1: running out priorities here man, running down the hall to

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Speaker 1: get here on time. I'm behind in life right now,

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Speaker 1: so not only this show, but in life in general.

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Speaker 1: So how are you guys, feeling good. I feel great.

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Speaker 1: We got our our friend Nate is uh he mentioned

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Speaker 1: last show He's he's big time just today to go

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Speaker 1: hang out with be interviewed for a John Madden documentary,

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Speaker 1: The Life Right is the in the NFL Network on

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Speaker 1: for the Life Story What just called whatever football? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so our guy Nate will be making an appearance in

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Speaker 1: that hopefully. Are you a Madden fan growing up playing

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Speaker 1: all that? No? No, no, like I've watched I enjoy

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Speaker 1: watching him in past summer. I'll do their thing. But yeah, um,

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Speaker 1: the moment Michael Vick entered the Matten realm when I

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Speaker 1: stopped playing video games really because it was just Chico.

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Speaker 1: My friends would always like he would always my best

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Speaker 1: friend always pick at Lanta and get Michael Vick and

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Speaker 1: he would snapped the ball and this run fifty yards

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Speaker 1: one way and everyone's chasing him and then he'll just

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Speaker 1: he was like Michael Vick was to Madden what Bo

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Speaker 1: Jackson was to Tech my bawl. Right, it was like

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Speaker 1: just not fair. Yeah, not fair at all. You're a

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Speaker 1: video game guy. Were you a maddened guy? Uh? In

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Speaker 1: the very beginning and then now I don't really I

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I just got enough football in your life.

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Speaker 1: It's really weird. Like when I started working here, Like

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Speaker 1: I am not a huge football fan. I love the Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: I love my job, I love what I do, and

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Speaker 1: I love game days. But outside of that, like I

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Speaker 1: like if if last thing I want to do is

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Speaker 1: do it and it's a social event, but like just

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Speaker 1: hardcore sit down and watch games and analyze them, like

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Speaker 1: like I do that sixty six days a week when

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Speaker 1: on that and I never understood. I'm like, we just

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Speaker 1: play NT double A. Yeah, It's just I'm just like, yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: of amazes me, though, that players get into their ratings

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Speaker 1: was that a thing when you were egos? I was

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Speaker 1: gonna say, that's a total ego thing. Ego. That's just

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Speaker 1: like salaries. It's like, okay, wait, I'm better than him.

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Speaker 1: He's making how much more than me? Now, next contract,

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Speaker 1: know the Eagles in these locker rooms are are out

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Speaker 1: of this. We've said it on this show before and

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Speaker 1: we'll bring it up again. Nate sent us some pictures

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Speaker 1: if y'all have it. Look, that's awesome. Um, we've said

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Speaker 1: it on the show before. But but professional athletes are

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Speaker 1: why is that, Jesse, Because we've been catered to our

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Speaker 1: entire lives. Yeah, we've we've been told, Yes, we've been had,

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Speaker 1: It's like that Jimmy Johnson story when the fullback fell

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Speaker 1: Little news came out, used to fall asleep in meeting?

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Speaker 1: On Sunday, we're gonna to throw it up to you.

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Speaker 1: I don't like losing. And see I'm the same way.

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Speaker 1: But I think whenever it comes to preseason, because it's

425
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Speaker 1: not a complete reflection of the actual whole body of

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Speaker 1: the team. It's you know, you're you're you're getting second third,

427
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 1: four stream guys in there, and you're trying to figure

428
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Speaker 1: out where everybody fits and you're messing around with stuff.

429
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Speaker 1: To me, it's not ye, I don't know, I just

430
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Speaker 1: it's weird. But maybe I need to. But but what

431
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Speaker 1: Jesse says makes total sense. Like you you're it's the

432
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Speaker 1: same way. Like I'm I'm like Jesse, like my kid,

433
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Speaker 1: he's gonna have a hell of a time growing up

434
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Speaker 1: because I ain't letting him win like I one year

435
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Speaker 1: old to sixteen years old. You got to earn it,

436
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Speaker 1: like and when you get old enough to beat me

437
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Speaker 1: and you start, good for you. But until then, it's

438
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Speaker 1: gonna be hell for you to you know, I'm not

439
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Speaker 1: letting you win like because I hate to lose. And

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Speaker 1: I guess I should have a different mindset when it

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Speaker 1: comes to preseason, because I get it the players are

442
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Speaker 1: probably the same way, Like they don't want to lose

443
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Speaker 1: that anything, and they got to this level because they

444
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Speaker 1: haven't lost it anything, right, So maybe I'll change my

445
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Speaker 1: attitude about preseason. Thank you Jesse, friend like me anytime

446
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Speaker 1: I liked him some time. All Right, what the hell

447
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Speaker 1: are we doing a backup quarterback? Because the guy we

448
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Speaker 1: thought was going to be the guy, who the guy

449
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Speaker 1: that we thought was going to be the guy behind

450
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Speaker 1: him is playing better than the guy that we thought

451
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Speaker 1: was going to be the guy. But then do we

452
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Speaker 1: even know if he's one of those guys or the guy?

453
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Speaker 1: And you go get another guy off the street and

454
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Speaker 1: then what about the the fourth guy? The fourth guy?

455
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Speaker 1: Is he gone? Well, yeah, so we're talking about Garrett, Gilbert,

456
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Speaker 1: been de Nucci, Cooper Rush not in that particular order.

457
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Speaker 1: So I think everyone thought Gilbert was going to be

458
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Speaker 1: the guy, the backup, right, that was the assumption going in.

459
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 1: Cooper Rush has actually been out playing him in preseason

460
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Speaker 1: and practices apparently get to start this game, this upcoming game,

461
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Speaker 1: and then they really some I think they really liked

462
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Speaker 1: de Nucci. But who is they? I don't know who

463
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Speaker 1: is that? I think because he's just draft pick. Why

464
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Speaker 1: does he come back? It's Mike's guy right when you

465
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Speaker 1: say they? And this goes back to a point that

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Speaker 1: we we had a couple of weeks ago about having

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Speaker 1: a sponsor in the meeting room. Like sometimes having a

468
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469
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470
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Speaker 1: your coaches, because who guys who are positioned coaches this

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Speaker 1: a job. They're not gonna have a problem finding a

474
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Speaker 1: job across the league or in college. If they've been

475
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Speaker 1: around for a while. You, on the other hand, are

476
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Speaker 1: probably going to be so for a guy like Ben

477
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Speaker 1: d Nucci. If the head coach is your sponsor, that

478
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Speaker 1: kind of works for your favorite. Now, whatever you can say,

479
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Speaker 1: nepotism because his brother coached him and au basketball when

480
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Speaker 1: he was six years old, whatever it is. At this

481
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Speaker 1: point in time, you don't give a damn. I just

482
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Speaker 1: want to make the squad in one way, shape or form,

483
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Speaker 1: whether that's backup role or practice squad roll. I'm just

484
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Speaker 1: trying to be around to collect some money and to

485
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Speaker 1: be around because like, think about it, and this may

486
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Speaker 1: seem super far fetched, Okay, but just think about it

487
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Speaker 1: for a second. We rave and we were, We're in love.

488
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Speaker 1: We're infatuated with our starting quarterback, Dak Prescott. Dak was

489
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Speaker 1: battling Jamil's Showers. Like, think about that for a second.

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Speaker 1: And I say that to say this. Dak was battling

491
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Speaker 1: Jamil Showers, who went to play safety. It took not

492
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Speaker 1: one but two injuries to happen for him to be

493
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Speaker 1: catapulted to the starting spot. One hundred million, gazillion dollars later,

494
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Speaker 1: He's the next best thing in Cowboy Country to slice bread. Yep.

495
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Speaker 1: So a guy like Ben de Nucci's saying, you know what,

496
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Speaker 1: I don't care what you may say about me. Chance,

497
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying is what I'm saying is you just

498
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Speaker 1: want to find a way to stay on right. You

499
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Speaker 1: just want to find a way to be here. Now,

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Speaker 1: do I think Garret Gilbert in Denucci or or Cooper

501
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Speaker 1: Rush will ever be the level of Dak Prescott. No,

502
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that at all. I'm just saying from

503
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Speaker 1: a player's perspective, I just gotta hang around because hanging

504
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: around I've witnessed lead to millions and hundreds of millions,

505
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Speaker 1: zillions of dollars for the other quarterback who has a

506
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Speaker 1: little bit of injuries, and it only takes you never know.

507
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Speaker 1: And if you remember that that year rookie, Dak's rookie year,

508
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Speaker 1: he didn't practice that great. He was a terrible practice.

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Speaker 1: Play when the lights came on, he showed up and

510
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Speaker 1: he Yeah, even after he started, I think played in

511
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Speaker 1: preseason games, he'd go back to practicing. It was like,

512
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure about this, and look what Liqueri is now.

513
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Speaker 1: So to answer your original question, I'm gonna keep saying this.

514
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Speaker 1: We're screwed. We're screwed. And and this isn't This isn't

515
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Speaker 1: an on Will McClay or the personnel. There are thirty

516
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 1: two NFL football teams in this league, and there are

517
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 1: thirty There isn't thirty two solid starting quarterbacks in this league.

518
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Speaker 1: There are teams right now today who don't know who

519
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Speaker 1: their starter is going to be, and even when they

520
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Speaker 1: announced that starter, that starter still isn't one we're like,

521
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Speaker 1: who excited about? So we're talking about a backup. There

522
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Speaker 1: are literally NFL teams who don't know who their starting

523
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Speaker 1: quarterback is going to be, and the guy that they're picking,

524
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Speaker 1: they're still on offensive about will he actually be successful?

525
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Speaker 1: How do we have to gain plan this thing for

526
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Speaker 1: him to kind of not lose the game for us? So, like,

527
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Speaker 1: this quarterback thing is a real challenge. It's only about

528
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Speaker 1: a handful of really fifteen probably good ones, as you

529
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Speaker 1: can say, all right, that's the guy, he's starting quarterback.

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Speaker 1: We're confident with him, we can build around him, and

531
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Speaker 1: then the other fifteen or toss ups. So we're so

532
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Speaker 1: we're trying to figure out the backup quarterback position. And

533
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Speaker 1: I don't know, I think it might have been Nick,

534
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: It might have been Jerry who were talking about. You know,

535
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Speaker 1: when you you paid this large amount of money for

536
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Speaker 1: your starting quarterback, right, and and so you don't have

537
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Speaker 1: all these funds to just be going around and allocating

538
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Speaker 1: all this money to another high paid You paid five

539
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 1: million dollars to the backup last year and that didn't help, right,

540
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 1: And that was a guy last year who had starting

541
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Speaker 1: yea ten plus games multiple times in the season, who

542
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Speaker 1: was a first round pick, who already had a ninety

543
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Speaker 1: million dollar, hundred million dollar contract, and then you paid

544
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Speaker 1: him on the high end for backup money, and it

545
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 1: still didn't lead you to a situation where when you

546
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Speaker 1: had to go to your backup it was enough to

547
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Speaker 1: carry you to a place um of success. So we

548
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 1: can toss this thing up in an about backup quarterback.

549
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 1: If four is not on the field, we are royally

550
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Speaker 1: non lubricated. Wow in there, it hurts, It hurts. What

551
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 1: do you think hurt? Should they should? They like you

552
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Speaker 1: just roll with what you got. Well, it's like sounds

553
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: like they're going to now, Like Jesse said, I mean,

554
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Speaker 1: there's just not much out there on the streets. It's

555
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Speaker 1: better than it's better than know the it's better. What

556
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Speaker 1: is it the saying to know the devil, Like it's

557
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Speaker 1: better than know the devil that you do know that

558
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Speaker 1: of the devil that you don't know. Like, at least

559
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Speaker 1: we know these devils. Yeah, we know what we're gonna

560
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 1: get with these guys, and so when it comes to

561
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: game planning or whatever, we know that we have to

562
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 1: either go super conservative or pray for our defense to

563
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Speaker 1: be better. It's like the devils that we do know

564
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Speaker 1: are better than the devils that we don't know, and

565
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: we don't know what else is out there, and they

566
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Speaker 1: don't know our system. At least these guys have been

567
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,479
Speaker 1: in this system, been around these players, been around these

568
00:32:56,520 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: coaches for season or two, and it's just again, we're screwed. Yeah,

569
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: Cooper Rush and Gilbert if he wins it out, that's

570
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Speaker 1: their advantage. They know the system. I mean, they're not

571
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: going to be that much better than maybe, But I

572
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Speaker 1: don't know. What did you think about the h I

573
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Speaker 1: think it was Adam Schefter, you know, the other day,

574
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Speaker 1: said something like, Dak's gonna do hang on, we gotta

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Speaker 1: let's go to the let's go to break and then

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Speaker 1: we'll come back that's not gonna be a short conversation.

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Speaker 1: All right. All right, let's take our last break. When

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Speaker 1: Thank you for coming out and thanks for for hollering

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00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:39,280
Speaker 1: at me on the sidelines. Um, pretty pretty good turnout

635
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,760
Speaker 1: last Friday for it to be a morning and kids

636
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: in school and people supposed to be at work, and

637
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,800
Speaker 1: I guess there were a few call in six to

638
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: work out there in the crowd, so get out here,

639
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 1: can fake off anymore, you know, I'm like, right, yea, yeah,

640
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 1: so see you next week. Yeah, so come on out

641
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 1: check it out, all right, last segment of the show, Kurt,

642
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 1: you brought it up. I didn't even want to talk

643
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: about it. This is my opinion and my personal opinion.

644
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: I'm not a doctor. I don't have any inside information.

645
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,800
Speaker 1: This is just me. You're seeing reports now that Dak's

646
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,919
Speaker 1: going to be battling this injury all year, right, Yeah,

647
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,320
Speaker 1: technic it was Adam Schefter he I think he tweeted

648
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: that out. So halftime of the last came. Yeah. So

649
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: here's here's my opinion. And I don't know much, but

650
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: this is just my observation, and believe me, I'm wrong

651
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 1: all the time. I feel like if this was something

652
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: to be majorly concerned about, Dak would not be out

653
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 1: there throwing during practice. He would not be out there

654
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 1: throwing during warmups. Like I feel like if it was

655
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: something that was not something to be concerned about year long,

656
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 1: they would shut him down completely and he would be

657
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 1: walking around and they wouldn't even let him have a

658
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 1: football in his hand. That's my personal opinion. I'm not,

659
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 1: like I said, I'm not a doctor. I don't know

660
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 1: exactly all the details of this injury other than what

661
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,760
Speaker 1: we've read, and you know that it's a throwing injury.

662
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: I just feel like, when you spend that much money

663
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 1: on a quarterback, if there was any concern of how

664
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 1: this thing is supposed to heal, he would not be

665
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,280
Speaker 1: out there throwing the ball. And I know it's different

666
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: when you throw game speed. We talked about that in

667
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 1: the velocity and everything, but I mean, he's not just

668
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: he's not playing soft toss. He's throwing the ball whenever

669
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 1: he's at practice and when he's in pregame warm ups

670
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: and stuff. So he's putting some zip on it. Now,

671
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 1: he's not getting behind it and putting you know, and

672
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: slinging it. But that's just my opinion. I could be

673
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: totally off base. That's that's how I feel about it.

674
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 1: Are you guys worried about this injury going into the

675
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: season and into the season, No, not particularly. I think

676
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 1: when he first tweeted that out, everybody took it to me. No,

677
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 1: he's not gonna be playing or whatever. I think that

678
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 1: just as a major league pitch does, he's gonna have

679
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 1: to take care of his arm. He's gonna have maybe

680
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 1: some different maintenance than he did in the past, and

681
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 1: that that may just be a part of his routine now.

682
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: But I don't think. Again, I'm not a doctor obviously either.

683
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on behind closed doors over there,

684
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 1: but I think it's he's gonna be there Sundays. He's

685
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 1: just gonna have to his routine during the week to

686
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 1: get ready. May change something. And that's really yeah, because

687
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:34,800
Speaker 1: if we're talking about having to change a routine, missing

688
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: more time, less throwing, less participation, you're the body doesn't

689
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:48,320
Speaker 1: rejuvenate and get more healed as you get into the season.

690
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 1: It does the exact opposite. It breaks down, right, muscles

691
00:39:54,960 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 1: wear down. Recovery isn't because now in the offseason, you know,

692
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 1: Dad took a month off from throwing. You don't get

693
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: a month off in football season. Hits. You get three

694
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: days four days tops to recover. So what used to

695
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 1: be we can take two weeks off to fully let

696
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 1: it recover, or the maintenance or whatever it is. You

697
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 1: don't get that anymore because you got a game Thursday, Sunday, Thursday, Monday,

698
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: and every single week it's coming. And the more time

699
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 1: that he begins to take off for whatever routine, maintenance

700
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 1: or whatever that thing is, that's less time we got

701
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 1: to prepare, less less time we got to be truly

702
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 1: sharp and accurate in what we do. And I just

703
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: think with this team and we talked about it on

704
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 1: this show before, Nate is in fact, like when he

705
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 1: says it about this defense when six weeks before they're

706
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 1: kind of in the swing of things, I'm just not trying.

707
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:08,800
Speaker 1: And then you also have to add him to the

708
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 1: fact that he's getting rest in practice now and he's

709
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:19,839
Speaker 1: not getting touched right when you play seventy snaps on Sunday. Yeah,

710
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:23,320
Speaker 1: we you know, that's a whole different. That's a whole different.

711
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 1: That's a car crash kind of sword, you know. And

712
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,360
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's going to be sacked one hundred,

713
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: one hundred times, but he'll get touched, he'll get thumped,

714
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 1: he'll get thudded, he'll get sacked, he'll take off for running,

715
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 1: get tackled, he'll fall. So then you add that onto

716
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 1: the mix of two and already worn down kind of situation.

717
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 1: That's the concern, Like, I don't I'm not concerned. And

718
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 1: sometimes I even kind of, you know, give a side

719
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 1: eye to the national media because it's a lot of hearsay,

720
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: like we're here every day, we know what's going on.

721
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 1: You know. I'm not saying that Adam doesn't have sources.

722
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,919
Speaker 1: But I can pick up the phone to call Britt

723
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 1: Brown if I wanted to. I can walk down there,

724
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:07,360
Speaker 1: you know, and and and see it if I wanted to.

725
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 1: So I kind of sometimes give a side out to

726
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 1: the national media because they all have these big, vague

727
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:14,839
Speaker 1: stories and Adam will always be like he breaks at

728
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: the halftime of the game, Right he breaks it, then

729
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,760
Speaker 1: that ain'tbody happenstance. That's that's that's that's kind of placement,

730
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But to what Kurt was saying,

731
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 1: that's the part that worries me. It's not the start

732
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 1: of the season season, it's it's the it's the war

733
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 1: of attrition. It's will he be able to maintain and

734
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,800
Speaker 1: be sustained throughout the entire year. I think the biggest

735
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 1: concern for me is not will he start the season,

736
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 1: will he play? The biggest concern for me right now

737
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 1: is he hasn't been getting reps with Amari Zeke now

738
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: CDs and protocol just the offensive line to offensive line,

739
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 1: like like it's you know, like Nate keeps saying, Hey,

740
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 1: I'm not worried until week six with the with the defense.

741
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,359
Speaker 1: You know, if we're O and six, then I'm gonna

742
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 1: then I'll pay. Like I'm he's given them a six

743
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 1: week grace period. I think this offense as good as

744
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 1: they're gonna be, it's gonna take them a couple of

745
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 1: weeks to get in sync. Now, and you're coming out

746
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 1: of the gate against the world chance like that's then

747
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 1: you go across the country and yes, could be rising

748
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 1: Chargers team. Yeah. So it's like, you know, you're you're

749
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 1: coming out of the gate and you're not playing you know, scrubs.

750
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 1: You're you're coming out and it's like, okay, so do

751
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 1: you start owing two? And I'm just I'm worried about

752
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 1: him syncing up and getting reps because they really haven't

753
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 1: as a unit had any reps if you think about it,

754
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: in training camp, they really haven't. You know, Amari has

755
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: been out, so as a whole unit, they've been in complete. Yeah,

756
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 1: they've been incomplete. Amar has been out. Like this offensive

757
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 1: unit has not been together once, not one snap, not

758
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 1: one snap, not one snap together and how long like

759
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 1: since spring January? Well, I guess of the off season. Well, well, no,

760
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 1: was they were running. It was probably like started last season.

761
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, like this group with healthy Tyring and

762
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:14,399
Speaker 1: ELC and you know this group hasn't been together. Yeah.

763
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 1: Well yeah, and else was out all last year. Yeah,

764
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 1: it's along. It's been a lot. So now again we're

765
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 1: back to the same spot and its supposed to be

766
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: just hey, slap it all together, yeah, Raymond James Stadium.

767
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 1: But we know what to do. Well it all comes.

768
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 1: And that's the thing, like, you know, we I think

769
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 1: everybody downplayed how important you know, and you and Nate

770
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 1: both talked about it on the show, how important it

771
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 1: was to get your hands on guys and all this

772
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:44,360
Speaker 1: virtual stuff. There's a huge difference in that and and

773
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,320
Speaker 1: being on the field together. There's also a huge difference

774
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:50,359
Speaker 1: in just being out there in shorts and watching guys

775
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 1: run routes and actually being on the field and running routes.

776
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: That's a totally different thing. And because and then the game,

777
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 1: like you'll you'll start the game, you'll have some things working,

778
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 1: but then it will be that one thing where I

779
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I thought she was gonna go in

780
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: and you actually went out, and it's interception. Yeah right,

781
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 1: And that's the thing. It's like, you may do It's

782
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 1: like riding a bike, right, you get on, but yeah,

783
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 1: I know how to pedal, but that's not saying that

784
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 1: pedal might slip and I might hit my shin. And

785
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 1: so that's stuff that when when it comes to the

786
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 1: game is yeah they may get in. It may be like, oh,

787
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 1: look see they lined up, they broke the huddle. Yeah

788
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,439
Speaker 1: we get that. But what happens when that one play

789
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 1: where the cadence was this and the communication was, oh,

790
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 1: I thought you meant go out, and we really went

791
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 1: We went in there, and now there's a free runner.

792
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 1: They're shock Barrett released freely and for a sack right

793
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 1: or oh man, shoot that audible. I forgot that. We

794
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 1: changed it and so you were supposed to run a

795
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 1: slant and not a stop route, and so I either

796
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:45,320
Speaker 1: I either threw it hoping you were going to be

797
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 1: there and it got tipped and picked or whatever it is.

798
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 1: So it's like they can do a they can do

799
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 1: ninety nine things right, But when you don't have that

800
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 1: that level of consistency, when when will that hat drop

801
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 1: and that hundred thing be wrong? Would it be a strip,

802
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 1: sack fumble? And a lot of times you know, that

803
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 1: can be the outcome of the game. Yeah, I'm not

804
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 1: saying that they won't be able to. This is just

805
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 1: the thing like, oh, they don't they don't know how

806
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 1: to play football, you know. No, it's they don't how

807
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 1: to play football, and they'll they'll do a lot of

808
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:18,879
Speaker 1: it right, But it's the consistent part that we've seen

809
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 1: with this team in the past offensively and defensively that

810
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 1: comes sometimes comes back to bite us in the butt. Yep.

811
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 1: And this sounds so stupid, you know, and I'm not

812
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 1: even gonna say it never mind. Is this your is

813
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 1: this your playing picture? It is credential. I wish I

814
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 1: could show credentials, but we get in trouble by hr

815
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 1: But Jesse has his credential to get in the building.

816
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 1: And it's actually his head shot from when he played

817
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 1: here that when you played here. Yeah, well I think black,

818
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: don't crack. I drink a lot of water. I got

819
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,359
Speaker 1: my this is coconut water and pineapple. I can't show

820
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 1: because you know sponsors, but drink a lot of water,

821
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:01,800
Speaker 1: man and no stress. Black crack baby good. Yeah. I

822
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 1: used to not have any gray in my beard overthe

823
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: last Well, that's just I got grays down that I

824
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 1: didn't have in this picture. At my gray my gray

825
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 1: level in my beard has gone through the freaking roof.

826
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:19,359
Speaker 1: I used to pull them out. She's that's what life

827
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 1: does to get my age, you know, Kurt, not too

828
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: far ahead of me. True. So all right, did we

829
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 1: talk about anything good today? Covid My gum tasted, My

830
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 1: gum tasted really good quarterback. We could talk about like

831
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 1: Brill Cox, who's showing up on defense. I am excited.

832
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 1: I am excited about the young inside talent. I don't

833
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 1: want to say about the outside talent, the young, but

834
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 1: like the young guys on the inside, the defensive line,

835
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 1: the linebacker, we need to talk about that. Thursday, we

836
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 1: got something. We got something like we got something broom

837
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 1: with those guys. Yeah, of course Michael Parsons. And I

838
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 1: was watching the breakdown from Brian Boldinger and he was

839
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 1: just like, they line up Parsons everywhere, and I love it.

840
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. I love it because

841
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 1: that's gonna be well, he's gonna be one of those guys.

842
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 1: You have to know where he is. And I love it,

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Speaker 1: If you draft Kyle Pitts the defense right now, dictate

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Speaker 1: So yeah, let's talk about that on Thursday when we

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Speaker 1: get Nate back in here. Just box Michael Park a

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Speaker 1: go on record and say, will not be on time.

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Speaker 1: Oh I'm no, I would definitely not going to record.

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Speaker 1: There's no way this defense is anywhere near as bad

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Speaker 1: that on Thursday. Guys. It's been fun. Kurt, yes, sir,

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Speaker 1: thanks for coming. Jesse, thanks for bringing it. Chris, thanks

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Speaker 1: for keeping us on the air. William, thanks for keeping

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Speaker 1: the live streams up. We will be back Thursday. Are

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Speaker 1: I think so right, So yep, we are all right.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Chris. We will be back Thursday, nine thirty

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Speaker 1: hanging with the boys. See you then. This has been

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