WEBVTT - Mick Shots: Remembering Gil Brandt

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<v Speaker 1>The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

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<v Speaker 2>Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 1>This is nick Shot, streaming live on dallascowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the official Dallas Cowboys at now. Here are Bill Jones,

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<v Speaker 1>Everson Walls, and Nicky Spagnola.

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<v Speaker 3>And welcome to football season Shots inside the SWBC podcast studio.

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<v Speaker 3>The team is set for all intents and purposes. We've

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<v Speaker 3>got college football tonight, We've got college football Saturday, Cowboys,

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<v Speaker 3>We've got the Giants next week. Yes, there are football

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<v Speaker 3>players on a football field right now.

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<v Speaker 4>And a beautiful, beautiful Thursday looking outside.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone.

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<v Speaker 4>At the start, I was looking out seventy five degrees.

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<v Speaker 3>About seventy five degrees? Is that what it is?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, that's what it was. I think when practice.

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<v Speaker 3>Rising, clicks rising, this seventy nine degrees right now and

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<v Speaker 3>it is a bombing ninety seven for the high today.

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<v Speaker 3>That cold front came through, and so they didn't need

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<v Speaker 3>to change practice ago at eight o'clock in the morning.

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<v Speaker 4>Or started the press conference at seven.

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<v Speaker 3>And you were up right and early.

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<v Speaker 4>I was, so, what time did you leave the house?

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<v Speaker 4>I left the house at six thirty two.

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<v Speaker 3>You beat the rush hour traffic did very good because

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<v Speaker 3>seven you're good.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what what.

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<v Speaker 4>Occurred to me is my patients driving to work got

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<v Speaker 4>ruined in training camp because I walked five minutes to

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<v Speaker 4>work in Oxnard.

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<v Speaker 3>Like from your room to the field.

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<v Speaker 5>That's right.

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<v Speaker 6>You can still have some traffic problems there. No, no,

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<v Speaker 6>If it's a lot of people walking.

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<v Speaker 4>No one's in my way. I forgot about the traffic,

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<v Speaker 4>especially since school started.

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<v Speaker 3>Speaking of training camp, I have. I am approaching today

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<v Speaker 3>with a clear mind because I stayed late at work

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<v Speaker 3>last night and I got my expense report done from

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<v Speaker 3>two weeks in ox Star that's been hanging over my

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<v Speaker 3>head for three weeks now. Yeah, and I'm sitting there, okay, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I got to prepare for these preseason games. So I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not going to do my cause I knew it was

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<v Speaker 3>at least a four hour process when you're you.

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<v Speaker 4>Know, and you should have stayed up last night because

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<v Speaker 4>it was a full moon anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, and so I got working on it at work

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<v Speaker 3>last night and I stayed there and got it done,

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<v Speaker 3>and so it is really football season for me.

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<v Speaker 4>So do you think the Cowboys got all their roster

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<v Speaker 4>manipulations done?

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<v Speaker 2>That's the question for you.

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<v Speaker 4>No, No, I'm asking you guys, are you are you

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<v Speaker 4>happy to think what they did?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, that's a different in question you asked.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, if you asked if we're happy, then that's up

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<v Speaker 6>to you as well, because if.

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<v Speaker 3>Mickey ain't happy, and there still could be some jockeying

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<v Speaker 3>for position, and there could be in some things. But

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<v Speaker 3>why don't you explain what's going on with the practice

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<v Speaker 3>squad right now? And then we actually need to get

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<v Speaker 3>into the cuts themselves, right, explain what's happening with the CJ.

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<v Speaker 3>Goodwins of the world in the practice.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so CJ. Goodwin they put on the practice squad. Uh,

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<v Speaker 4>he's a vested veteran, so he didn't have to go

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<v Speaker 4>through waivers, and they basically told him, look, don't go anywhere.

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<v Speaker 4>We're going to pay you. We're putting you on the

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<v Speaker 4>practice squad. We'll use the first three weeks you'll call

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<v Speaker 4>be called up to play in the game as part

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<v Speaker 4>of the forty eight.

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<v Speaker 3>And you get your full salary if you get called

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<v Speaker 3>up each week.

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<v Speaker 4>Right exactly. And and then what they're kind of playing

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<v Speaker 4>the odds that maybe somebody gets hurt and you can

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<v Speaker 4>put him on after his three call ups, you can

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<v Speaker 4>put him on the fifty three man roster, and this

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<v Speaker 4>allows them to keep a younger guy that they didn't

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<v Speaker 4>think would get through waivers. And having said that, the

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<v Speaker 4>only guy they wanted to keep that didn't get through

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<v Speaker 4>waivers was Isaiah Land. The Colts claimed them on their

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<v Speaker 4>fifty three, so they didn't get the young kid through

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<v Speaker 4>that they were grooming to be a linebacker slash pass

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<v Speaker 4>rushing defensive end. So I think that was the one

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<v Speaker 4>thing that they probably regretted, thought it was going to

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<v Speaker 4>get was going to happen, but it certainly didn't. So

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<v Speaker 4>now they had some other guys that I think they

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<v Speaker 4>would have signed to the practice squad, but they chose

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<v Speaker 4>to sign with other team practice squads. Wide receiver Dennis

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<v Speaker 4>Houston signed to the Giants practice squad. Jabril Cox probably

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<v Speaker 4>was looking around and going, all right, they're not thinking

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<v Speaker 4>much of me. I'll try this in Washington and then

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<v Speaker 4>will Greer. I think another guy was playing the odds

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<v Speaker 4>because McCarthy had said the day before that they would

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<v Speaker 4>be willing to sign him to the practice squad and

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<v Speaker 4>have four quarterbacks, but he chose to sign with Cincinnati

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<v Speaker 4>on the practice squad, and I think what he was

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<v Speaker 4>looking at was at the time, Joe Burrow still wasn't practicing,

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<v Speaker 4>but he did yesterday. But he did yesterday, and so

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<v Speaker 4>other than that, the only other backup they had was

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<v Speaker 4>Jake Browning.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, and that's the other part of it, is he's competing.

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<v Speaker 3>Once he learns the system and you know, a month

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<v Speaker 3>from now or whatever, then he could be the primary

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<v Speaker 3>backup for je Zach.

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<v Speaker 4>And if Burrow wasn't ready, Browning would have the star

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<v Speaker 4>art and they would have to elevate.

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<v Speaker 3>Him because they let Trevor Simeon go a guy with

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<v Speaker 3>more experience. Yeah, so there was there was more of

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<v Speaker 3>an opening at the end in Cincinnati than there was

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<v Speaker 3>anywhere else.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there were, and there was no opening here, right,

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<v Speaker 4>he was going to be just the practice squad unless

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<v Speaker 4>there was multiple injuries. So, uh, those were the four

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<v Speaker 4>guys I think they wanted back or would have brought

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<v Speaker 4>back maybe, but.

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<v Speaker 3>They could be in a situation in Cincinnati two depending

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<v Speaker 3>on what they decide to do now, especially with Burrow's

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<v Speaker 3>injury concern, where they may elevate Greer for the first

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<v Speaker 3>three weeks of the season from the practice squad, so

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<v Speaker 3>they have a third quarterback and actually, actually, no, that

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't work.

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<v Speaker 4>You can't do it.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't. No, no, it doesn't have third quarterback rule

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't work on fifty three. He's got to be on

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<v Speaker 3>the fifty three.

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<v Speaker 4>But still, if Burrow, you know, hadn't practice, say practices today.

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<v Speaker 4>Now I'm assuming because it's Joe Burrow with three actuses

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<v Speaker 4>next week, he's ready to start. But you know what

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<v Speaker 4>if he's not, so I think he was looking, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>financially at it and opportunity, uh, signing with Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 3>And so let's go back to cut day on Tuesday

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<v Speaker 3>and what we were what was both of you's take on

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<v Speaker 3>what happened? And and he surprises as far as that goes.

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<v Speaker 6>Before spad goes, I got this. I have this surprise player.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't think we've talked about him. Uh, he wants

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<v Speaker 6>to break a generational curse. Cowboys safety Thomas Thomas good story.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, he was on the practice squad last year.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, okay, Well he wanted to make the fifty three

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<v Speaker 6>man roster.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and and he did a big safety. Yeah that

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<v Speaker 4>is bigger than I remembered when I talked to him.

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<v Speaker 4>In training camp, he's like six to one. I think

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<v Speaker 4>they listed him at two fifteen. He looks heavier than that.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, this is a strong looking guy.

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<v Speaker 6>He's a young to fifteen, yes, and I'm fifteen, and

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<v Speaker 6>I don't like him.

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<v Speaker 2>It's different to you.

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<v Speaker 3>No, It's like when I when I interviewed Dak and

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<v Speaker 3>I asked him before we interviewed and or sit down

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<v Speaker 3>during training camp, he said he was at two hundred

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<v Speaker 3>and twenty five pounds to twenty eight something like that, Like,

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<v Speaker 3>how come you're two twenty eight? Looks different than me?

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<v Speaker 2>A lot differ than that.

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<v Speaker 4>Anyway, So, Wanye, they had him playing a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>safety but also in the nickel defense, moving him up

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<v Speaker 4>into like a linebacker spot.

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<v Speaker 2>But did you know about his story? Did you know? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't know the part about his dad burning down

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<v Speaker 4>their house. Yeah it was. But he had played at

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<v Speaker 4>Georgia Tech, played well, uh, and I saw that they

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<v Speaker 4>were kind of using him some on returns. And so

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<v Speaker 4>when I first this was the first couple of days

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<v Speaker 4>of training camp, and I asked him, I said, so,

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<v Speaker 4>did they use you at on returns at Georgia Tech?

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<v Speaker 4>And he goes, oh, yeah, I said, were you good

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<v Speaker 4>at it? He goes, go look at my tape, probably

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<v Speaker 4>said video right, and I said, okay, we'll do So

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<v Speaker 4>I went and looked. It was pretty impressive, right, He

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<v Speaker 4>had a couple of returns for touchdowns. And so a

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<v Speaker 4>guy that big and that fast. Uh So I told

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<v Speaker 4>him yesterday, I, hey, I went and looked. You were right,

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<v Speaker 4>so he I think.

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<v Speaker 3>It was early in camp and you may have been

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<v Speaker 3>with me talking with John Fossil about jan Ye and

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<v Speaker 3>it was almost as if Fossil didn't want the case.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, yes, yes.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess that's why the story was lost though.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, he was one of those that, okay, we

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<v Speaker 3>got into the practice squad last year, and you could

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<v Speaker 3>tell he was really excited about what he could do

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<v Speaker 3>on special teams, that he could be a core special

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<v Speaker 3>teams guy. And so he was hesitant at first to

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<v Speaker 3>talk about him and then he in the course of

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<v Speaker 3>the you know, he's such a fossil, so excited about that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and so, and you know he was going to play

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<v Speaker 3>in these preseason games. Word was going to get out

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<v Speaker 3>on him, and sure enough, the first preseason game, first

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<v Speaker 3>drive of the game, he picks off Trevor Lawrence, so

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<v Speaker 3>the cats out of the back.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and a good, good guy and a willing special

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<v Speaker 4>teams player too, by way. So yeah, the.

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<v Speaker 3>Amazing thing about it is when and he talked about

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<v Speaker 3>it the other day, uh is I mean you look

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<v Speaker 3>at this safety group and there you talk about no

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<v Speaker 3>room in the end, you know, and there doesn't appear

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<v Speaker 3>to be any of them at the end there, but

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<v Speaker 3>with their starting trio, but with him and Marquise Bell,

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<v Speaker 3>they've got not only special teams value, but they can

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<v Speaker 3>go play down in the box and subpackages too.

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<v Speaker 4>So when I talked to Dan Quinn the other day,

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<v Speaker 4>I said, little Thinn at linebacker, you only got four

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<v Speaker 4>on the team. I said, what happens if Vandersch or

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<v Speaker 4>Dimont Clark get hurt? And he goes, well, we'll play

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<v Speaker 4>Parsons more at linebacker.

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<v Speaker 2>We talked about this, right, yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>And he said also that that was the plan anyway,

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<v Speaker 4>even though he did a lot of pass rush stuff

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<v Speaker 4>in training camp, they were thinking of using him more

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<v Speaker 4>at linebacker. And he said, and then we got our

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<v Speaker 4>couple of big safeties that can help us at linebacker.

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<v Speaker 2>And we talked about that too, So he confirmed.

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<v Speaker 4>What we talked about on Tuesday, which is to say.

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<v Speaker 3>That if there was an injury that was multiple weeks, right,

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<v Speaker 3>there are there are veteran inside linebackers out there that

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<v Speaker 3>they could go.

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<v Speaker 4>Right exactly, And Harper actually played pretty well in that

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<v Speaker 4>last preseason game. Now they kept him for special teams purposes,

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<v Speaker 4>but you know he did all right. So anyway, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>so with only four there, it was like, oh, that's

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<v Speaker 4>pretty iffy because you usually want to keep six linebackers,

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<v Speaker 4>but I didn't think they had six to keep on

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<v Speaker 4>what they had. Now okay, because they gave up on

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<v Speaker 4>Jamirol Cox.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, okay, we need to get to the cornerback.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, let go.

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<v Speaker 3>But first off, Hunter Lipke made the team.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes he did.

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<v Speaker 3>And when we convened on Friday, someone in the room said,

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<v Speaker 3>my pick to click was Hunter Lipkey of that game.

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<v Speaker 3>When I said that, when I said that, when I

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<v Speaker 3>said that, I didn't think he would click to the

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<v Speaker 3>point that he would make the fifty three. No, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>in that game because there wouldn't be anybody that was

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<v Speaker 3>on the fifty three man roster basically playing in that game.

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<v Speaker 3>And he goes into that game and he makes the

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<v Speaker 3>fifty three out of coming out of that game.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, and we talked about it. I think they

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<v Speaker 4>finally brought it up in the press conference today about

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<v Speaker 4>how Mike McCarthy used John kun as a full back,

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<v Speaker 4>one back, special teams guy the Pro Bowl. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 4>he burned the Cowboys pretty badly too in one game.

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<v Speaker 4>That he likes the fullback and so this kid was

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<v Speaker 4>versatile enough and he showed it in the game that

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<v Speaker 4>they said, all right, not only can they use him

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<v Speaker 4>as a lead blocker, a one back, a guy that

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<v Speaker 4>can catch the ball, but I'll guarantee you he'll be

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<v Speaker 4>a very willing special teams guy too. So yeah, and

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<v Speaker 4>he's got his teammate here for one year they were

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<v Speaker 4>together North Dakota State game.

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<v Speaker 2>L Right, never mind.

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<v Speaker 4>So I mean if you look at the fifty three

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<v Speaker 4>as they as they did it and then made the adjustments,

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<v Speaker 4>uh yesterday, I mean, there really wasn't a surprise.

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<v Speaker 3>And then well, seany Ekewen, we sat here on Tuesday

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<v Speaker 3>and said, well you started going down the tight ends.

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<v Speaker 3>You keeping four tight ends. You're keeping four tight and

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<v Speaker 3>McEwen is on the practice squad, right, and but to

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<v Speaker 3>the point of lipkey, he can do some of those

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<v Speaker 3>things that they were using McEwen as in the backfield,

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<v Speaker 3>or he can be trained to do that as a

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<v Speaker 3>lead blocker h BAC type in the backfield too. But

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<v Speaker 3>McEwen is here to stay for the season. He's just

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<v Speaker 3>on the practice squad.

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<v Speaker 4>And maybe at some point last year or the year

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<v Speaker 4>before he was on the practice was he was he yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I think so here's and then they elevated him a

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<v Speaker 4>couple of times.

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<v Speaker 3>There are so many tight ends that are like McEwan,

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<v Speaker 3>like others that are out on the street as free

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<v Speaker 3>agents right now that are going to get signed a

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<v Speaker 3>week from now or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>You may sound so bad, No, I'm just saying that.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I'm saying. I'm saying that you have the ability

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<v Speaker 3>to get him to the practice squad because there are

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<v Speaker 3>a whole bunch of options out there, and coaches like

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<v Speaker 3>coaching the guys they've been coaching for the last six months.

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<v Speaker 3>And so it was a good play I think by

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<v Speaker 3>the Cowboys that he wasn't going to get picked up

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<v Speaker 3>because there's an abundance of tight ends out there, so

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<v Speaker 3>if he did get picked up, you can find another one.

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<v Speaker 4>He started last season on the practice squad and then

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<v Speaker 4>they activated him October twenty ninth, So they're kind of

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<v Speaker 4>doing the same thing this year, and the same thing

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<v Speaker 4>with sort of the deal with C. J. Goodwin. You're thinking, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>these guys are with us. We're telling them you're with us,

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<v Speaker 4>don't go anywhere, and then at some point somebody gets

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<v Speaker 4>hurt and you have an opening on the practice squad.

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<v Speaker 4>I was somewhat surprised, and I'm going to leave this

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<v Speaker 4>to Bill by the way, that they got something for

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<v Speaker 4>Kelvin Joseph.

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<v Speaker 2>My guy, man, I'm going to miss him.

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<v Speaker 3>Why are you get giving it to me?

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<v Speaker 4>Because you're going to say Noah's last name operly big benogany, Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>and I got it right here.

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<v Speaker 3>It's actually it's actually it rolls off the tongue very

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<v Speaker 3>big bananga.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, banogay.

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<v Speaker 3>So what do you think of that? And it'd not

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<v Speaker 3>benogahy uh any. That first round he was a first round.

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<v Speaker 3>He was a first round twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>And he doesn't have a CD out and he's good.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, and he's out of Miami because that's where Joseph

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<v Speaker 4>was going to do his wraps in Miami.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that one.

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<v Speaker 4>So when I answered the question on I think twitter

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<v Speaker 4>X or whatever you want to call it. And I

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<v Speaker 4>said it was trading a bag of peanuts for a

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<v Speaker 4>bag of walnuts.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I saw that. That was that was pretty funny,

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<v Speaker 2>pretty good. So is the guy any good?

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<v Speaker 4>Then they didn't want him, well, they wanted to get

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<v Speaker 4>something for it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, they didn't just release it.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean it's like San Francisco that didn't want he

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<v Speaker 4>was going to be more than the third quarterback, and

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<v Speaker 4>so it's like, oh, maybe we can get something for him.

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<v Speaker 2>So they just gave up on my boy.

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<v Speaker 7>Huh yeah, all that talent, all that, and I'll tell

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<v Speaker 7>you what, just watching him out there, Boy, he throws

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<v Speaker 7>a pretty pass and he's got it.

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<v Speaker 4>Not only Trey Lance.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, yeah, I thought we were still talking about corner.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I was.

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<v Speaker 4>No, you said, and they got something for him? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I thought you meant trade San Francisco. I was on

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<v Speaker 4>the wrong way.

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<v Speaker 3>Like Bogay is throwing pass, they got.

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<v Speaker 4>Something for He's here already too, by the way. Uh no,

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<v Speaker 4>Trey Lance. So I got to chat with him yesterday

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<v Speaker 4>in the locker room, and uh, it seems like I.

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<v Speaker 3>Got an idea.

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<v Speaker 4>Real I got an idea. Take a break and talk

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<v Speaker 4>about try.

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<v Speaker 3>We're good to talk, and I got something to add

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<v Speaker 3>on Noah Igbogany too, Okay, okay, and Mickey is going

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<v Speaker 3>to say the name Noahgaty.

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<v Speaker 3>The official official official. Now, who did the Cowboys strade for? No,

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<v Speaker 3>not Banoga mee.

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<v Speaker 4>It's banogaee.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, just call him Noah.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what I'm digg. I'm doing you.

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<v Speaker 2>That's another one there.

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<v Speaker 9>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>And by the way, sounds like he is a high

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<v Speaker 3>character guy and he's more of an outside corner than

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<v Speaker 3>a slut, which is.

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<v Speaker 4>What they were looking for because they figured they had

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<v Speaker 4>enough guys in the oh.

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<v Speaker 3>That was the other significant thing that happened is that

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<v Speaker 3>Jordan Lewis got activated from He did not starting the

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<v Speaker 3>season on pup. So he is on the fifty three

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<v Speaker 3>and we'll see if he's ready to go a week

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<v Speaker 3>from Sunday against the Giants.

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<v Speaker 2>Has you been looking at his progress at all?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, he's out there this practice these last two days. Yesterday,

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<v Speaker 4>they weren't in pads today. They are.

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<v Speaker 3>Explain that about nashun Wright as well. He went on

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<v Speaker 3>ir after he was on the fifty three, right so

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<v Speaker 3>it's a with well, let's go, and Matt will let's go,

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<v Speaker 3>and so they can return in four weeks from now.

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<v Speaker 4>But by leaving Joseph Lewis on the fifty three, even

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<v Speaker 4>if he's not ready to play, they're betting on he's

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<v Speaker 4>ready to play sooner than the four weeks he would

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<v Speaker 4>have to spend on IR. And when you're on IR,

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<v Speaker 4>you can't practice with the team, can't be out there

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<v Speaker 4>other than to do rehab. Really not supposed to be

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<v Speaker 4>in meetings either.

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<v Speaker 3>And the significant thing on it was they had to

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<v Speaker 3>claim they had to put him on the fifty three

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<v Speaker 3>because he did not participate in training camp. He was

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<v Speaker 3>on PUP to start training camp, and so he could

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<v Speaker 3>stay on PUP regular season PUP, which would keep him

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<v Speaker 3>out the first month of the season. But they feel

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<v Speaker 3>strong enough about his rehab that he's going to return

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<v Speaker 3>sometime within the next month.

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<v Speaker 4>He's running awfully well. The other guy they kept on

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<v Speaker 4>the fifty three that's not practicing is Donovan Wilson. He's

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<v Speaker 4>out there or doing his rehab.

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<v Speaker 2>What's wrong with Dolan?

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<v Speaker 4>It was a high hamstring string like almost right behind

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<v Speaker 4>the knee where it attaches.

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<v Speaker 2>First day high hamstring.

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<v Speaker 4>That's there's a there's a word for the muscle there

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<v Speaker 4>that I cannot pronounce.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, that's I would think that high hamstring would be

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<v Speaker 6>closer towards the the buttocks area as opposed to down

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<v Speaker 6>by the knee.

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<v Speaker 4>No, it's your hamstring, not your calf. I mean I

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<v Speaker 4>said hamstring, yes, calf. Okay, okay, sorry, it was a

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<v Speaker 4>high calf injury.

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<v Speaker 2>I hate those. Oh god, Yeah, that's where the muscle is.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and uh so, I don't know if he's I'm

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<v Speaker 4>thinking he's not practicing today. They would be hard pressed

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<v Speaker 4>to say, Okay, you get to one padded practice next

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<v Speaker 4>week and you're ready to play in the game on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 3>And so that's the other part of keeping the extra

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<v Speaker 3>safeties too. It's because Donovan Wilson. We don't know when

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<v Speaker 3>he's coming back.

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<v Speaker 4>But they did keep you know, they kept Eric Scott,

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<v Speaker 4>the young This is still a young roster if you

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<v Speaker 4>look at it. They kept all eight draft choices, at

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<v Speaker 4>least initially. We'll see where it goes from here.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, my pick to click was Bohannah. It was Bohanna

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<v Speaker 6>on the list.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me see.

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<v Speaker 4>No, he got cut and I didn't see anybody claim

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<v Speaker 4>him or sign them to a All.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, tell me about Trey Lance. You wanted to talk about,

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<v Speaker 3>Oh Trey Lance. Yes, uh so got a chance to

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<v Speaker 3>just kind of talk casually with him yesterday. It seems

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<v Speaker 3>like a really upstanding guy, good personality. When he did

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<v Speaker 3>his interview the other day, he looked people in the eye,

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<v Speaker 3>and he seems to just have a very good, healthy

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<v Speaker 3>outlook on things. And he knew about the history of

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<v Speaker 3>the team. He knew about, you know, McCarthy with quarterbacks,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was impressed with that part.

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<v Speaker 4>And the other thing I was impressed with if you

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<v Speaker 4>go back and read what took place in San Francisco

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<v Speaker 4>after they traded him. Everybody couldn't say enough about him,

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<v Speaker 4>how he handled the entire situation, from the head coach

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<v Speaker 4>to the general manager to Kittle the tight end, and

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<v Speaker 4>even Garoppolo had really good things to say about him,

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<v Speaker 4>and basically said, the guy just needs an opportunity he

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<v Speaker 4>know what, He's sort of built like Dak. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>first impressions pretty good, at least from my stampoint.

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<v Speaker 3>And welcome back to Mick Shotts, Bill Jones, Mickey Spagnola,

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<v Speaker 3>and Everson Walls. And the Cowboys have just announced this

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<v Speaker 3>former Cowboys executive Gil Brandt passed away at the age

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<v Speaker 3>of ninety one this morning, one year as Nick Harris

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<v Speaker 3>I'm reading from Nick Harris's story on dallascowboys dot com. Gil,

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<v Speaker 3>as you all know, served as the vice president of

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<v Speaker 3>player Personnel for the Cowboys from nineteen sixty to nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>eighty eight. After graduating from University of Wisconsin. Brandt first

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<v Speaker 3>broke into scouting, working part time for the Rams nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>fifty eight full first full time opportunity with the forty

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<v Speaker 3>nine Ers before making the move to Dallas take a

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<v Speaker 3>job as the chief talent scout with the Cowboys. Twenty

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<v Speaker 3>eight years with the Cowboys made an impact on scouting

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<v Speaker 3>still felt in the game today. Credited for the introduction

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<v Speaker 3>of computers and scouting and evaluation, along with the drafting

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<v Speaker 3>of players such as Roger Staubach Herschel. Walker also credited

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<v Speaker 3>for the undrafted pickups of Drew Pearson, Cliff Harris, and

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<v Speaker 3>Everson Walls. Jerry Jones on the passing of Gil Brandt.

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<v Speaker 3>We are so deeply saddened by the passing of Gil Brandt,

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<v Speaker 3>a true icon and pioneer of our sport. Gil was

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<v Speaker 3>at the very core of the early success of the

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<v Speaker 3>Dallas Cowboys and continued to serve as a great ambassador

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<v Speaker 3>for the organization for decades. Beyond that, His contribution cemented

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<v Speaker 3>his spot in the Ring of Honor. He was my

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<v Speaker 3>friend and a mentor, not only to me, but to

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<v Speaker 3>countless executives, coaches, players and broadcasters across the National Football League,

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<v Speaker 3>which rightfully earned him a spot in the Pro Football

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<v Speaker 3>Hall of Fame, where his legacy will be celebrated forever.

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<v Speaker 2>He was an.

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<v Speaker 3>Innovator and set the standard for excellence and player acquisition,

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<v Speaker 3>from the creation of the NFL Combine to revolutionizing the

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<v Speaker 3>NFL Draft. Gil finished his over six decade NFL career

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<v Speaker 3>with an eye towards the future of the league and

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<v Speaker 3>teaching fans about the sport he loved. As a radio broadcaster,

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<v Speaker 3>Gil was as good a story teller as he gets,

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<v Speaker 3>with memory as sharp as attack. His dedication to and

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<v Speaker 3>passion for this game left a lasting impact on generations

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<v Speaker 3>of Hall of Fame players and coaches. There are very

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<v Speaker 3>few people that have been able to have the kind

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<v Speaker 3>of generational impact that he did. Gil was as dedicated

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<v Speaker 3>to growing this league in sport as anyone ever was,

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<v Speaker 3>and we are all grateful and better for it. Our

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<v Speaker 3>hearts go out to Gil's wife, Sarah, his son Hunter

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<v Speaker 3>and ol of Gill's family and friends, and one of

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<v Speaker 3>those guys he discovered ever since Walla.

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<v Speaker 6>That's right, man, I just talked with just texted Doug Williams.

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<v Speaker 6>He had no idea because Gil was on the Black

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<v Speaker 6>College Hall of Fame board and so I saw him

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<v Speaker 6>every year in Atlanta when we give out the awards

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<v Speaker 6>for Black College Hall of Fame. So yeah, he was

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<v Speaker 6>always still connected to the HBCUs. I used to tease

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<v Speaker 6>him all the time and tell him we were just

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<v Speaker 6>like cheap labor for him. So he always let me

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<v Speaker 6>uh uh unleash on his radio show whenever he had

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<v Speaker 6>me on, and uh, he was always a good sport

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<v Speaker 6>about it. So now Gil, he will be missed. I

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<v Speaker 6>just texted uh, Dennis Thurmann, Dexter Clinkscale, Michael Downs, and

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<v Speaker 6>Bill Bates as well to let them know. And of

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<v Speaker 6>course Dexter clink Scale got back with me said he

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<v Speaker 6>was devastated as well.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, he will be missed.

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<v Speaker 6>And uh, you know he was in the end, he

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<v Speaker 6>was trying to do the best he could, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>to make sure the HBCUs were recognized throughout the NFL.

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, Everson, the media is here this morning

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<v Speaker 3>because the locker room is open, I think you should

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<v Speaker 3>make your way over there. I think it would be

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<v Speaker 3>great for everyone to hear Everson talk about Gil.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and gil uh protected the Cowboys money like it

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<v Speaker 4>was his own. Yeah, if you talk to anybody that

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<v Speaker 4>had to negotiate a kind with him, right, he was tough.

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<v Speaker 4>But we had gotten word early in training camp that

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<v Speaker 4>he was in bad shape. He was struggling. He had

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<v Speaker 4>kind of gone down this last year to the point

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<v Speaker 4>where he was not returning phone calls or he wasn't

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<v Speaker 4>doing any more interviews. So you knew it had to

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<v Speaker 4>be bad if Gil Brandt didn't want to talk, right,

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<v Speaker 4>because that was you know, him and Larry Lacewell, two

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<v Speaker 4>peas in a pot about talking and telling stories. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>he was.

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<v Speaker 3>He always wanted to help other people too.

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<v Speaker 4>And he did he did. You know, I can tell

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<v Speaker 4>the first time I ever had an interaction with Gil

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<v Speaker 4>It would have been the early eighties when I was

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<v Speaker 4>working in Jackson, Mississippi, and I just out of the

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<v Speaker 4>blue said I need to talk to this gil Brant.

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<v Speaker 4>And I called him right, left a message and was like, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 4>it's the Cowboys, right by god. He called me back.

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<v Speaker 4>I've forgotten what the question was or what the story was.

0:34:05.800 --> 0:34:09.080
<v Speaker 4>It was something about the draft and he called back

0:34:09.160 --> 0:34:12.200
<v Speaker 4>and gave me the time of day and I was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>and then when you get here, you better if you

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<v Speaker 4>ask him a question, you better carve out ten or

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<v Speaker 4>fifteen minutes because it'll turn into another story. Right, But

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<v Speaker 4>he was you know, here's the hard part. Now, the

0:34:29.480 --> 0:34:33.279
<v Speaker 4>people that know this organization from the sixties and it

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<v Speaker 4>really into the seventies, they're no longer with us, right.

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<v Speaker 4>The three guys that did the deal with Tom Texts

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<v Speaker 4>and Gil, now Gil passed away. Really the only guy

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<v Speaker 4>to go to for historical questions is Joe Bailey, who

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<v Speaker 4>was Texas right hand man as a vice president. And

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<v Speaker 4>he's still sharp. And I forgot which documentary that just

0:34:58.719 --> 0:35:02.600
<v Speaker 4>Deep Blue that just showed, you know, he answered a

0:35:02.600 --> 0:35:06.239
<v Speaker 4>bunch of questions on I think it was probably Chuck Holly.

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<v Speaker 4>But we're losing people that have the knowledge of the

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<v Speaker 4>beginning of this franchise, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you've got to go to some of the players.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, you got Roger Right and Drew Pearson, you know,

0:35:20.320 --> 0:35:22.840
<v Speaker 6>guys like that who were really there doing that.

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<v Speaker 4>Drew still pretty sharp, yeah, but some of the other

0:35:26.719 --> 0:35:30.680
<v Speaker 4>guys are kind of you know, I mean, Chuck Holly

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<v Speaker 4>was a prime example. You know, wasn't healthy enough to

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<v Speaker 4>attend the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Bob still pretty sharp. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>but yeah, it's a it's a real shame.

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<v Speaker 3>And the other thing with Gil and as Jerry alluded

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<v Speaker 3>to in his statement there, I mean active. He was

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<v Speaker 3>when most people have long past, long past retirement age,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, all the way to ninety years.

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<v Speaker 4>Old, for ten years doing stuff with NFL radio and uh.

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<v Speaker 4>And he was even lighting so involved in.

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<v Speaker 3>The draft, in the whole the draft process and inviting players,

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<v Speaker 3>uh to whether it was in New York or one

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<v Speaker 3>of the cities, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>It was all a part of it.

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<v Speaker 6>You remember he was in the mountains somewhere and they

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<v Speaker 6>got a shot at No.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he was on some fishing trips.

0:36:22.800 --> 0:36:24.280
<v Speaker 2>He and his wife were driving together.

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<v Speaker 4>That's right, the sniper, Yeah, shooting the people on the

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<v Speaker 4>road randomly.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Didn't have anything against Gil.

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<v Speaker 2>No, nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>So ever since tell us when you first met Gil

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<v Speaker 3>and when we're uh back in the.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm in my first conversation. Yeah, uh, but I believe

0:36:46.800 --> 0:36:49.239
<v Speaker 6>it was I can't remember if it was wounded or

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<v Speaker 6>if it was Jeff Opeugh sent him down, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>because it's just gonna be a free agent contract at Grambling.

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<v Speaker 6>I was undrafted. They I knew I wasn't going to

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<v Speaker 6>get drafted. After the first round the first day was done,

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<v Speaker 6>and uh, they offered me fifteen hundred dollars signing bonus.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm like, okay, if I'm getting this crappy contract here,

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<v Speaker 6>I was good. Think it was thirty two to five

0:37:08.960 --> 0:37:12.200
<v Speaker 6>or something for the for the year and fifteen hundred

0:37:12.280 --> 0:37:15.000
<v Speaker 6>dous signing balls. I said, look, I want more signing bonus.

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<v Speaker 6>So he puts Gill on the phone, and Gil's just

0:37:17.800 --> 0:37:20.239
<v Speaker 6>Stonewall and I got used to that. That was a

0:37:20.280 --> 0:37:23.040
<v Speaker 6>conversation that that went on. Okay, that went off for

0:37:23.120 --> 0:37:23.759
<v Speaker 6>thirteen That.

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<v Speaker 3>Was nineteen eighty one. Yeah, okay, and that's when I

0:37:27.200 --> 0:37:28.960
<v Speaker 3>started in my business.

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<v Speaker 2>That was the spring of.

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<v Speaker 3>So your pay in nineteen eighty one was thirty two

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<v Speaker 3>five two five. You know, my pay was twelve thousand

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<v Speaker 3>dollars a year.

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<v Speaker 5>I had to work.

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<v Speaker 3>I had to work eight hours of overtime to get

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<v Speaker 3>to a per week. To get to twelve thousand dollars,

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<v Speaker 3>got five dollars and two cents an hour.

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<v Speaker 2>We had to move out though, right, you had to

0:37:47.719 --> 0:37:51.000
<v Speaker 2>move out to Lubbook. I actually had the luxury of

0:37:51.000 --> 0:37:51.839
<v Speaker 2>staying with my mom.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh there you go. Yeah, I game, but look at

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<v Speaker 4>the difference.

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<v Speaker 3>Here was the lowest possible paying job for a college

0:37:59.600 --> 0:38:02.880
<v Speaker 3>graduate was my job, right, okay? And you as an

0:38:03.000 --> 0:38:05.680
<v Speaker 3>NFL player, we're making only twenty thousand dollars more.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, Gus, and that.

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<v Speaker 2>Was what I did. You said you sucked.

0:38:12.600 --> 0:38:17.319
<v Speaker 4>That's signing bonus verus three times more than what Drew

0:38:17.400 --> 0:38:18.120
<v Speaker 4>Pearson got.

0:38:18.440 --> 0:38:18.960
<v Speaker 2>That's true.

0:38:19.080 --> 0:38:20.200
<v Speaker 4>His was five hundred.

0:38:20.280 --> 0:38:22.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he said he spent his all on the party

0:38:22.160 --> 0:38:22.480
<v Speaker 2>that night.

0:38:22.560 --> 0:38:25.640
<v Speaker 4>No, here's what he did. He tells the story about

0:38:26.040 --> 0:38:29.359
<v Speaker 4>that gave him five hundred dollars and he goes, and

0:38:29.600 --> 0:38:32.880
<v Speaker 4>I had just enough gas to get to the hotel

0:38:33.360 --> 0:38:37.240
<v Speaker 4>to sign the contract, and so I needed gas and

0:38:37.600 --> 0:38:39.520
<v Speaker 4>decided that we were going to have a party at

0:38:39.600 --> 0:38:43.120
<v Speaker 4>the dorm. Right. So when he got home, he had

0:38:43.160 --> 0:38:46.080
<v Speaker 4>just gotten married, and his wife goes, how much did

0:38:46.080 --> 0:38:52.759
<v Speaker 4>you get to sign? And he goes, two hundred and fifty.

0:38:53.320 --> 0:38:57.600
<v Speaker 4>He's and I can't tell you how many guys told

0:38:57.640 --> 0:38:59.600
<v Speaker 4>the story about the first. I think it might have

0:38:59.680 --> 0:39:04.040
<v Speaker 4>been Walt Garrison, uh talking about Gil, you know, giving

0:39:04.080 --> 0:39:06.440
<v Speaker 4>him a signing bonus, and he said, yeah, and it

0:39:06.520 --> 0:39:09.280
<v Speaker 4>was so small, and he goes, and what Gil would

0:39:09.280 --> 0:39:11.440
<v Speaker 4>do is he would pull all this cash out of

0:39:11.440 --> 0:39:15.000
<v Speaker 4>his pocket. He goes, but they were all ones. So

0:39:15.080 --> 0:39:18.239
<v Speaker 4>he acted like he had this big roll of money, right,

0:39:18.560 --> 0:39:22.400
<v Speaker 4>and he okay, here, here's your signing bonus. Right, But

0:39:22.520 --> 0:39:23.920
<v Speaker 4>there are so many guilds.

0:39:24.719 --> 0:39:27.239
<v Speaker 6>He was known for being a hard ass. Yes, you know,

0:39:27.400 --> 0:39:31.320
<v Speaker 6>and then to disrespect his legacy. He was known for

0:39:31.560 --> 0:39:33.040
<v Speaker 6>being a hard ass.

0:39:33.040 --> 0:39:35.680
<v Speaker 4>He would blame it on text too. All the time,

0:39:35.920 --> 0:39:37.040
<v Speaker 4>everybody passed the buck.

0:39:37.080 --> 0:39:39.560
<v Speaker 6>Those those three, yeah, they passed the buck all the

0:39:39.640 --> 0:39:40.719
<v Speaker 6>time between each other.

0:39:40.800 --> 0:39:44.279
<v Speaker 4>Danny White. Danny White tells the story about you know,

0:39:44.400 --> 0:39:47.640
<v Speaker 4>when he first got here, for those first four years,

0:39:47.680 --> 0:39:51.359
<v Speaker 4>he was the punter, and so when he ended up

0:39:51.719 --> 0:39:55.640
<v Speaker 4>getting the quarterback job after Roger retired in eighty, he

0:39:55.760 --> 0:39:59.680
<v Speaker 4>was still punning. And so in eighty one, uh, he

0:39:59.760 --> 0:40:02.160
<v Speaker 4>went to Gil and said, hey, you know, I'm kind

0:40:02.160 --> 0:40:06.560
<v Speaker 4>of doing two things here. He goes, don't you think

0:40:06.600 --> 0:40:10.719
<v Speaker 4>I deserve a raise? And Gil said, well, you know,

0:40:11.680 --> 0:40:15.400
<v Speaker 4>we'll see, and he goes, and you're probably not punting

0:40:15.480 --> 0:40:17.399
<v Speaker 4>this year. Well he punted that year.

0:40:17.719 --> 0:40:18.040
<v Speaker 5>He did.

0:40:18.320 --> 0:40:21.480
<v Speaker 4>So they went through the same thing the next year,

0:40:22.200 --> 0:40:26.520
<v Speaker 4>and uh, Gil tells him, well, I think that's a

0:40:26.560 --> 0:40:29.920
<v Speaker 4>good point. Go talk to Tom about it. So he

0:40:29.960 --> 0:40:32.360
<v Speaker 4>went to talk to Tom about it, saying I'm doing

0:40:32.400 --> 0:40:34.719
<v Speaker 4>this and this and you know, and I am the quarterback.

0:40:35.080 --> 0:40:38.600
<v Speaker 4>And Tom goes, well, Danny, he goes, you know, in

0:40:38.640 --> 0:40:41.400
<v Speaker 4>my day, the more you can do to help a

0:40:41.440 --> 0:40:45.440
<v Speaker 4>team win, the better off. We're all out, and Danny

0:40:45.520 --> 0:40:47.239
<v Speaker 4>goes I had no answer.

0:40:48.719 --> 0:40:51.680
<v Speaker 2>But they were. They were. They were my introduction to

0:40:51.760 --> 0:40:52.440
<v Speaker 2>corporate may.

0:40:52.560 --> 0:40:55.560
<v Speaker 4>Did you know of him before? Of course the draft?

0:40:55.680 --> 0:40:58.640
<v Speaker 4>Like of course I knew who he was.

0:40:58.760 --> 0:41:00.480
<v Speaker 6>I was still mad a I don't forget getting rid

0:41:00.560 --> 0:41:03.680
<v Speaker 6>of at that time, they just got rid of Rayfield, right.

0:41:07.160 --> 0:41:09.160
<v Speaker 6>I knew all about the organization, so I knew what

0:41:09.239 --> 0:41:12.160
<v Speaker 6>was going on, and I was very upset about that.

0:41:13.040 --> 0:41:13.600
<v Speaker 2>At the time.

0:41:13.680 --> 0:41:15.440
<v Speaker 6>When I was at Grambling, I thought I was going

0:41:15.520 --> 0:41:17.120
<v Speaker 6>to be a good football player. I thought I could

0:41:17.120 --> 0:41:19.600
<v Speaker 6>probably make it to the next level. So yeah, I

0:41:19.680 --> 0:41:24.480
<v Speaker 6>knew all about the organization itself. By the way, Dennis

0:41:24.520 --> 0:41:29.080
<v Speaker 6>Derman of Thrman Steves just just sent the rip GB

0:41:29.360 --> 0:41:34.040
<v Speaker 6>exclamation point with prayer hands. So everybody you know sending

0:41:34.040 --> 0:41:37.480
<v Speaker 6>it in their condolences. But now Gil Brandt, everybody knows it.

0:41:38.840 --> 0:41:42.759
<v Speaker 6>I remember recently, I think, well within the last ten

0:41:42.760 --> 0:41:45.480
<v Speaker 6>to fifteen years, talk with Charlie Waters about Gil Brandt

0:41:45.960 --> 0:41:49.120
<v Speaker 6>and they had done an interview together, Charlie and Gil,

0:41:49.400 --> 0:41:52.319
<v Speaker 6>and you know, Charlie's Charlie is very intense to this day,

0:41:52.440 --> 0:41:56.759
<v Speaker 6>still very intense. And you know Gil kind of makes

0:41:56.840 --> 0:41:59.279
<v Speaker 6>light of the little tricks and stuff that he used

0:41:59.320 --> 0:42:01.400
<v Speaker 6>to do back in the day. Well Charlie was not

0:42:01.640 --> 0:42:04.840
<v Speaker 6>happy about that. So Charlie's like, he's getting pissed off

0:42:05.239 --> 0:42:07.960
<v Speaker 6>on the interview itself, you know. I mean this is

0:42:07.960 --> 0:42:12.040
<v Speaker 6>like around fifteen years ago. So yeah, Gil he left

0:42:12.080 --> 0:42:14.640
<v Speaker 6>some you know, he left some marks. He left some

0:42:14.719 --> 0:42:17.480
<v Speaker 6>stains on some people, I say, some tire tracks all

0:42:17.560 --> 0:42:20.040
<v Speaker 6>some people as he kind of rolled over us during

0:42:20.040 --> 0:42:21.360
<v Speaker 6>the negotiations.

0:42:21.560 --> 0:42:24.960
<v Speaker 3>You know, Charlie Waters is a good example though, of

0:42:25.200 --> 0:42:30.880
<v Speaker 3>a guy Gil. He could see the ability even if

0:42:30.920 --> 0:42:33.040
<v Speaker 3>you played a different position or if you played a

0:42:33.040 --> 0:42:35.920
<v Speaker 3>different sport now it might be able to translate to

0:42:35.960 --> 0:42:40.640
<v Speaker 3>the NFL. And Charlie Waters, who quarterback, was a quarterback

0:42:40.680 --> 0:42:44.720
<v Speaker 3>at Clemson, and we all think of we linked Charlie

0:42:44.719 --> 0:42:47.360
<v Speaker 3>and Cliff together. Well, Cliff, of course was an undrafted

0:42:47.360 --> 0:42:50.560
<v Speaker 3>guy out of Washington Baptist when Charlie was a third

0:42:50.640 --> 0:42:54.200
<v Speaker 3>round draft pick out of Clemson in nineteen seventy sixty

0:42:54.200 --> 0:42:58.080
<v Speaker 3>six pick in the draft, but he played. He converted

0:42:58.120 --> 0:42:59.680
<v Speaker 3>over to safety.

0:43:00.080 --> 0:43:03.360
<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah, right, well you know the you know what

0:43:03.440 --> 0:43:08.239
<v Speaker 4>happened with him his rookie year. Uh, it was cut

0:43:08.280 --> 0:43:14.760
<v Speaker 4>down day and Jim Myers at the time was the turk.

0:43:15.040 --> 0:43:18.160
<v Speaker 4>He would tell people they got cut and he came in.

0:43:18.840 --> 0:43:23.279
<v Speaker 2>Oh god, Jim as the worst person to have that job.

0:43:24.360 --> 0:43:28.080
<v Speaker 4>And he came in and told Charlie, I'm sorry, Charlie,

0:43:28.080 --> 0:43:34.520
<v Speaker 4>but you didn't make it, ye. And Charlie Waters was devastated, right,

0:43:34.600 --> 0:43:36.799
<v Speaker 4>he what am I going to do the rest of

0:43:36.840 --> 0:43:39.120
<v Speaker 4>my life? And he said. This went on for a

0:43:39.200 --> 0:43:42.080
<v Speaker 4>couple of hours before he started packing his stuff up.

0:43:42.840 --> 0:43:48.600
<v Speaker 4>And Myers comes back a couple hours later and he goes, uh, Charlie,

0:43:49.520 --> 0:43:51.200
<v Speaker 4>we made a mistake. We didn't cut you.

0:43:51.880 --> 0:43:53.640
<v Speaker 2>We made a mistake. We made a mistake.

0:43:54.440 --> 0:43:59.400
<v Speaker 4>We didn't cut you. Charlie said something started cussing, like,

0:43:59.480 --> 0:44:03.840
<v Speaker 4>oh do that to me, and Myers don't talk to

0:44:03.880 --> 0:44:06.399
<v Speaker 4>me like that.

0:44:06.640 --> 0:44:07.520
<v Speaker 2>He's Sergeant Carter.

0:44:07.920 --> 0:44:11.160
<v Speaker 6>It's like sending Sergeant Carter from Gumble around to tell, and.

0:44:11.080 --> 0:44:13.520
<v Speaker 4>I'm sure Gil had something to do with how they

0:44:13.640 --> 0:44:16.200
<v Speaker 4>made the mistake of who they were cutting or whatever.

0:44:16.320 --> 0:44:18.719
<v Speaker 3>To clarify on Waters, he was a quarterback to start

0:44:18.760 --> 0:44:20.960
<v Speaker 3>his career at Clemson. Then he was an All Conference

0:44:20.960 --> 0:44:22.680
<v Speaker 3>wide receiver and moved the defense.

0:44:22.800 --> 0:44:25.160
<v Speaker 4>Actually know you got the.

0:44:25.560 --> 0:44:31.360
<v Speaker 3>Basketball players from Cornell Green to Yeah, Preston Pearson was

0:44:31.400 --> 0:44:33.360
<v Speaker 3>a college basketball player.

0:44:33.800 --> 0:44:36.280
<v Speaker 6>So yeah, he definitely knew the athlete or Billy Joe Juprie,

0:44:36.840 --> 0:44:38.359
<v Speaker 6>come on, they had He definitely knew.

0:44:39.239 --> 0:44:40.080
<v Speaker 2>I have a feeling.

0:44:40.120 --> 0:44:43.200
<v Speaker 3>And besides you HBC, you guys too, I got that.

0:44:43.320 --> 0:44:43.840
<v Speaker 2>That's true.

0:44:43.960 --> 0:44:46.799
<v Speaker 6>I gotta say, I still don't think he thought I

0:44:46.800 --> 0:44:50.399
<v Speaker 6>was gonna make the team. I cannot see him being

0:44:50.960 --> 0:44:53.200
<v Speaker 6>that that type of genius. And if he did think

0:44:53.239 --> 0:44:55.360
<v Speaker 6>I was gonna make the team, I surely should have

0:44:55.360 --> 0:44:57.960
<v Speaker 6>been paid more money to entice me to come since

0:44:58.000 --> 0:44:58.839
<v Speaker 6>he knew so much.

0:44:59.520 --> 0:45:01.080
<v Speaker 3>So we only we have I mean, we're out of

0:45:01.080 --> 0:45:01.520
<v Speaker 3>time here.

0:45:01.680 --> 0:45:04.799
<v Speaker 4>Let me tell one more story. It's a typical Guil

0:45:04.960 --> 0:45:10.120
<v Speaker 4>thing because he always knows somebody right Leroy Jordan. Part

0:45:10.160 --> 0:45:15.400
<v Speaker 4>of his signing bonus out of Alabama was he wanted

0:45:15.440 --> 0:45:19.920
<v Speaker 4>this fancy kind of Cadillac car, something that he always wanted.

0:45:20.600 --> 0:45:24.520
<v Speaker 4>And Gil goes, Okay, So instead of getting the car,

0:45:24.640 --> 0:45:27.160
<v Speaker 4>he probably saved money and got it from somebody he

0:45:27.239 --> 0:45:31.480
<v Speaker 4>knew here, and he was going to drive it to Tuscaloosa, Alabama,

0:45:32.280 --> 0:45:36.920
<v Speaker 4>to deliver it to Leroy Jordan. And somewhere in the

0:45:36.960 --> 0:45:41.239
<v Speaker 4>middle of Mississippi, he's driving at night and he hits

0:45:41.280 --> 0:45:46.480
<v Speaker 4>a cow and totals the car basically right, and he

0:45:46.640 --> 0:45:49.640
<v Speaker 4>was close enough to Mississippi State where he knew the

0:45:49.680 --> 0:45:53.279
<v Speaker 4>head coach at the time or whatever, and they came

0:45:53.320 --> 0:45:55.880
<v Speaker 4>and got him and put him up. And the next

0:45:55.960 --> 0:45:58.920
<v Speaker 4>day the police came because the guy who owned the

0:45:58.960 --> 0:46:04.439
<v Speaker 4>cows was going to charge him for manslaughtering the cow. Right,

0:46:04.800 --> 0:46:09.000
<v Speaker 4>but because he knew the person at Mississippi State, they

0:46:09.120 --> 0:46:11.120
<v Speaker 4>got him out of whatever trouble he was going to

0:46:11.200 --> 0:46:13.440
<v Speaker 4>be in. He goes. But the worst part was I

0:46:13.520 --> 0:46:16.879
<v Speaker 4>had to call Leroy and tell him about that car.

0:46:17.000 --> 0:46:20.080
<v Speaker 4>We'll get it to you a little bit later. A

0:46:20.080 --> 0:46:23.839
<v Speaker 4>little bit car cow killed the cow, and he drove

0:46:23.880 --> 0:46:26.400
<v Speaker 4>it there himself. He didn't hire somebody to go do it.

0:46:26.600 --> 0:46:26.680
<v Speaker 3>Right.

0:46:27.800 --> 0:46:30.080
<v Speaker 2>That's when he was young, right, That's when he was young.

0:46:30.160 --> 0:46:33.800
<v Speaker 3>But you just think of the twenty years from nineteen

0:46:33.960 --> 0:46:36.879
<v Speaker 3>sixty five to eighty five where the Cowboys were making

0:46:36.920 --> 0:46:41.360
<v Speaker 3>the playoffs every year, and the impact that Gil Brandt had.

0:46:41.200 --> 0:46:45.000
<v Speaker 4>On that and killing the draft because back in the day,

0:46:45.760 --> 0:46:48.719
<v Speaker 4>the people in the NFL didn't think it was a

0:46:48.760 --> 0:46:51.560
<v Speaker 4>big deal, the draft, Like they weren't prepared for it.

0:46:51.920 --> 0:46:53.879
<v Speaker 4>He told me when he went into that first one

0:46:53.920 --> 0:46:59.480
<v Speaker 4>in nineteen sixty one, he said that everybody walked in

0:46:59.520 --> 0:47:02.680
<v Speaker 4>with their Street and Smith magazines because it was the

0:47:02.719 --> 0:47:06.200
<v Speaker 4>college previews, right, so they were picking names out of there.

0:47:06.320 --> 0:47:09.920
<v Speaker 4>No one was scouting anybody, right, And he goes in

0:47:09.920 --> 0:47:10.120
<v Speaker 4>it with.

0:47:10.280 --> 0:47:16.080
<v Speaker 3>The Street and Smith's magazine was like from the summer before.

0:47:16.440 --> 0:47:19.600
<v Speaker 4>Yes, well, but the draft was in November, remember right,

0:47:19.640 --> 0:47:22.839
<v Speaker 4>Oh wow? And uh and he said, and back then,

0:47:23.239 --> 0:47:27.000
<v Speaker 4>you know, they didn't have like fault. Everybody wasn't hooked

0:47:27.080 --> 0:47:30.040
<v Speaker 4>up to a phone, right, so when you drafted a guy,

0:47:30.520 --> 0:47:32.759
<v Speaker 4>you had to go out in the hallway get on

0:47:32.800 --> 0:47:35.480
<v Speaker 4>the payphone. And so you had to show up for

0:47:35.520 --> 0:47:38.319
<v Speaker 4>the draft with your Street and Smith and rolls of

0:47:38.440 --> 0:47:41.960
<v Speaker 4>quarters so you can get on the payphone and make

0:47:42.320 --> 0:47:44.480
<v Speaker 4>phone calls. And that's how they got a hold of

0:47:44.560 --> 0:47:47.760
<v Speaker 4>guys it's changed a little, Hesard.

0:47:49.360 --> 0:47:53.520
<v Speaker 3>Well, we're out of time here, but there's so many

0:47:53.560 --> 0:47:53.839
<v Speaker 3>that we.

0:47:53.800 --> 0:47:57.239
<v Speaker 2>Can go on. I'm getting so many. I put it

0:47:57.280 --> 0:47:58.280
<v Speaker 2>on my family.

0:47:58.320 --> 0:48:01.800
<v Speaker 6>What's the app Yeah, everybody so surprised, major Cowboy fans in

0:48:01.840 --> 0:48:02.280
<v Speaker 6>the family.

0:48:02.440 --> 0:48:02.720
<v Speaker 2>Still.

0:48:03.239 --> 0:48:07.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, what a legacy and what a guy.

0:48:07.719 --> 0:48:11.319
<v Speaker 4>Uh and and the reason why he's in the Pro

0:48:11.360 --> 0:48:14.040
<v Speaker 4>Football Hall of Fame because some of these stories that

0:48:14.080 --> 0:48:17.399
<v Speaker 4>we're telling here, people are going to go in and say, oh,

0:48:17.560 --> 0:48:19.560
<v Speaker 4>I remember this about that guy.

0:48:20.280 --> 0:48:22.840
<v Speaker 3>Thank god he went in before he passed exactly.

0:48:23.560 --> 0:48:23.960
<v Speaker 2>All Right.

0:48:24.000 --> 0:48:27.440
<v Speaker 3>That does it for this edition of Mixed Shots. Have

0:48:27.560 --> 0:48:31.040
<v Speaker 3>a great holiday weekend. We're back next week. It's a

0:48:31.080 --> 0:48:32.720
<v Speaker 3>regular season schedule, right Mickey.

0:48:33.560 --> 0:48:37.120
<v Speaker 4>Oh, we are on Labor Day on Monday, aren't we already?

0:48:37.440 --> 0:48:38.680
<v Speaker 3>It's Labor Day is Monday?

0:48:38.680 --> 0:48:42.000
<v Speaker 4>That's you're not doing Monday, I don't believe.

0:48:42.040 --> 0:48:44.120
<v Speaker 5>So Tuesday we're back on.

0:48:45.800 --> 0:48:49.560
<v Speaker 4>What the season starting, all right, gil Brett.

0:48:50.520 --> 0:48:54.359
<v Speaker 3>It doesn't start till Wednesday forever since Cowboys Wednesday. All right,

0:48:54.400 --> 0:48:56.640
<v Speaker 3>So that does it for this edition of Mixed Shots.

0:48:56.680 --> 0:48:58.960
<v Speaker 3>Have a great weekend. We'll see you next week.

0:48:58.880 --> 0:49:02.279
<v Speaker 2>All right. R Ip Gil Brandt and go Cowboys.

0:49:03.400 --> 0:49:06.360
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0:49:06.560 --> 0:49:09.480
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