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Speaker 1: Hello Sunshine.

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Speaker 2: Hey besties. Today on the bright side, we're getting real

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Speaker 2: with comedian and actress Still Say Sloan. She's here to

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Speaker 2: tell us how to live life unapologetically. It's Thursday, April

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Speaker 2: twenty fifth.

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Speaker 3: I'm Simone Boyce, I'm Danielle Robey, and this is the

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Speaker 3: bright side from Hello Sunshine.

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Speaker 1: All Right, see money.

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Speaker 3: We recently talked about Caitlin Clark's ridiculously low WNBA salary,

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Speaker 3: and we weren't the only ones talking about it. The

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Speaker 3: whole Internet blew up over it. She's making less than

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Speaker 3: one hundred thousand dollars a year for her first four

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Speaker 3: years in the league.

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Speaker 1: But we have some good news today.

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Speaker 3: She's apparently getting ready to sign a twenty eight million

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Speaker 3: dollar deal with Nike and it's going to include her

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Speaker 3: signature shoe.

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Speaker 2: Well, guess that little paltry salary doesn't matter anymore, does it?

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Speaker 1: It still matters to me.

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Speaker 3: I want these WNBA players to be making proper money

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Speaker 3: like the men are.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the men I think make too much money.

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Speaker 1: I want teachers to make that much money.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, it's systemic issue that's going to

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Speaker 2: take some time to change. But I'm just happy that

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Speaker 2: that little number is going to pale in comparison to

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Speaker 2: what she's going to make from this shoe deal. So

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Speaker 2: I love that for her.

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Speaker 1: Are you rocking the shoes?

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Speaker 2: I got to see what they look like, but I

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Speaker 2: want to say yes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know.

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Speaker 3: I actually sometimes don't care what shoes look like when

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Speaker 3: they're designed by women like Melody Asani has really great

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Speaker 3: Jordan's and those I actually really love, but sometimes I

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Speaker 3: think they're ugly. But I want to support the women's shoes,

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Speaker 3: so I buy them anyways.

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Speaker 2: It's very selfless of you, Danielle. Okay, Danielle, I can't

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Speaker 2: stop thinking about this wild interview that Anne Hathaway gave

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Speaker 2: to V magazine. It's not really that the interview is wild,

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Speaker 2: but what she revealed is so shocking to me. She

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Speaker 2: talks about breaking into the industry back in the early

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Speaker 2: two thousands, and I had no idea how inappropriate the

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Speaker 2: chemistry tests were. Back then.

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Speaker 3: We knew about the casting couch. We did not know

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Speaker 3: about the chemistry test exactly.

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Speaker 2: This is that other layer of the onion that didn't

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Speaker 2: quite get peeled back during the me too movement, the

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Speaker 2: height of that. But so these chemistry tests. That's when

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Speaker 2: casting directors they put two actors together to see if

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Speaker 2: the sparks are going to fly on screen. But back

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Speaker 2: in the early two thousands, producers would force actresses like

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Speaker 2: Anne Hathaway to make out with the guys who are

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Speaker 2: testing for the role. So she could be kissing up

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Speaker 2: to ten strangers in one day of work.

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Speaker 1: She's not on the Bachelor exactly.

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Speaker 2: She's not a contestant on the Bachelor. She's a professional actor.

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Speaker 2: This is so insulting to me, and she found it

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Speaker 2: gross at the time too, But she was worried about

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Speaker 2: being labeled as difficult. I mean, how many women can

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Speaker 3: I haven't seen you this fired up over a story

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Speaker 3: in a while. Why are you so fired up over this?

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Speaker 2: I think it's exploitative. They are forcing her to do

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Speaker 2: it's unnecessary to put her through this, And like, there's

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Speaker 2: so many other ways that you could be assessing chemistry

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Speaker 2: it was just a very different time in the pre

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Speaker 2: me two times, and thankfully now we know better and

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Speaker 2: as an actor and producer, she's finding better ways to

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Speaker 2: test chemistry, especially with her new film, The Idea of You.

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Speaker 2: She basically asked actors to pick a song to dance

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Speaker 2: Don't force strangers to kiss at work even before they

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Speaker 3: I think that's a little bit of a reach. I

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Speaker 3: don't think it really shows chemistry. It's more about like

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Speaker 2: She's saying that dancing together is still a way to

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Speaker 1: Dancing to me, feels like embarrassing.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to dance on camera. You'd rather kiss

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Speaker 1: I'm being very clear, I'm not with the kissing.

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Speaker 3: I'm just also not with the dancing, okay, but I

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Speaker 3: do think there needs to be better ways to test that.

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Speaker 3: The thing that stuck out to me about this article

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Speaker 3: was Anne Hathaway said, I didn't say anything because I

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, are just numerous. Brooke Baldwin, who was a

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Speaker 3: piece this week that gave me chills, and it talks

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Speaker 3: about how she found her voice. It speaks to this

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Speaker 3: exact issue. If you are a woman listening to this,

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Speaker 3: please read her article. I think it'll fire you up.

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Speaker 3: I needed it.

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Speaker 2: I honestly think that article is a bigger indictment of

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Speaker 2: the news industry overall and the fact that these anchors

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Speaker 2: like Brooke Baldwin were expected to play a game and

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Speaker 2: go a lot along with these arbitrary rules, and clearly

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Speaker 3: But she couldn't use her voice because she didn't want

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Speaker 3: to be difficult. And it's this It's like I hear

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Speaker 3: this with women all the time, in every industry. It's

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Speaker 3: not just Hollywood, it's not just media. It's at a

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Speaker 3: I don't think that we are at a place in

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Speaker 2: We definitely are not. But I think the more often

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Speaker 3: I'm so grateful to people like Brooke and Anne Hathaway

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Speaker 3: there are ramifications for speaking up, so I'm grateful for

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Speaker 3: them for making a sacrifice too. Okay, I'm gonna switch

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Speaker 3: up the a little bit because Mother's Day is coming. Yes,

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Speaker 3: it's May twelfth, and it always sneaks up on me

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Speaker 1: I'm always like, shit, I.

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Speaker 3: Forgot, like I forgot to order the flowers or something.

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Speaker 3: But my mom always says to me, like, save your money,

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Speaker 3: don't buy me a gift.

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Speaker 1: What do you do with your mom?

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Speaker 2: I still get our a gift. My mom likes gifts.

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Speaker 3: I think mine secretly does too, so sometimes I do it,

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Speaker 3: but sometimes I just send a sweet note. This year,

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Speaker 3: Hello Sunshine is helping us all plan ahead. Thank you

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Speaker 3: so much. I love an easy button. They have a

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Speaker 3: Mother's Day Gift Guide that they just released. It's a

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Speaker 3: one stop shop for all gifts. Their handpicked to bring

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Speaker 3: mom's joy, and all of the products are made by

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Speaker 3: female founders. A few of my standouts personally a Favorite Daughter,

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Speaker 3: which was founded by the Foster sisters. They have a

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Speaker 3: cute mom of the Year baseball hat. I love a

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Speaker 3: recess pickleball paddle for all the picklers. Fastest growing sport

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Speaker 3: in America. I'm not getting agreement there, but that's fine.

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Speaker 3: Everybody who loves pickleball, please at.

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Speaker 1: Me at Danielle Robe. I need some support.

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Speaker 2: Do you play?

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Speaker 1: Of course? Who doesn't play pickleball?

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Speaker 1: Okay, We'll get you on the court, my mom, and

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Speaker 3: Spanx has a cropped wide leg gene for anybody who

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Speaker 3: thinks that Spanx is just body shape where I actually

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Speaker 3: just tried on their clothing the other day.

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Speaker 1: They fit really well.

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Speaker 3: Sarah Blakelee is a goddess and just everything she does

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Speaker 2: I haven't tried their clothes.

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Speaker 3: I have to try that surprisingly good and so for

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Speaker 3: a little bit of extra joy, Simone and I are

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Speaker 3: offering a couple gifts to our bright Side besties too,

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Speaker 3: because we haven't talked about this on the podcast yet,

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Speaker 1: Each have our own businesses.

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Speaker 3: Yes, we do tell us about your entrepreneurial endeavor.

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Speaker 2: Yes, So this is technically a collaboration with a local

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Speaker 2: sustainable fashion brand called Poplin, and it's my friend's company,

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Speaker 2: and I was so honored to design a clothing collection

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Speaker 2: with her. It is a matching top and bottom set

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Speaker 2: that's super comfortable. The first time I wore it, I

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Speaker 2: we also made a toddler set so you can match

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Speaker 2: with your little one on Mother's Day.

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Speaker 1: I know what you guys are wearing in your family photo.

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Speaker 2: Right here, and I made a tall version. And probably

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Speaker 2: the best part is that this company, pop Linen, is

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Speaker 2: all about sustainability and size inclusivity, so it's good for

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Speaker 2: a Simone set, go to Poplinen dot co and use

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Speaker 2: discount code bright Side twenty for twenty percent off your purchase.

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Speaker 3: You were rocking it on Instagram. You have brown, white

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Speaker 3: and black.

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Speaker 1: It looked really good on you, really flowy, really comfortable.

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Speaker 2: Have yours?

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Speaker 1: Why do you always surprise me?

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Speaker 2: Because I love surprising.

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Speaker 1: He surprises so sweet.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, You're welcome.

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited. What color did I get?

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Speaker 2: I gave you black because you asked me to pick

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Speaker 2: and you said that you love black the most, so

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Speaker 3: You know this means I'm going to use my coupon

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Speaker 3: coat to get my mom a matching set. Mom, I'm

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Speaker 3: sorry that I blew the gift for this year and

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Speaker 2: Every day now you know? Wait, but your question everything

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Speaker 2: cards are in the gift guide too.

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Speaker 3: Yes, So the backstory behind these is that Larry King

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Speaker 3: was my mentor and I used to go to breakfast

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Speaker 3: And when he passed away, I wanted to create something

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Speaker 3: King of Questions. So I put together a deck of

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Speaker 3: And I always say it's not a game, it's a

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Speaker 1: How is that? See money?

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Speaker 2: Welcome dulcey.

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Speaker 3: Hello.

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Speaker 4: It's a me.

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Speaker 2: Duel say Sloane.

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Speaker 5: Well, I say that because my first name means either

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Speaker 4: But my mother went to hair.

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Speaker 5: She said, girl, Now we were seventeen, she had to

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Speaker 4: She had a handbag. Ain't, no way.

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Speaker 5: What a seventeen year old told herself around in a

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Speaker 5: like you give little girl purses like grown women have handbags.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely.

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Speaker 4: can I give you a hug? Because my parents aren't supportive?

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Speaker 5: So she's like hugging comics backstage, She's just like she

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Speaker 3: She said one time that she had this dream of

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Speaker 5: That's how I got in a stand up because it

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Speaker 5: And the way that I am on stage is a

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Speaker 5: as you know, any child of color, especially black and

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Speaker 4: To pay the mortgage.

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Speaker 5: Basically, so I leave a lot so my mother never

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Speaker 4: I don't know where my husband is, but he's late.

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Speaker 1: Nine too.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god.

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Speaker 5: Every time I pay a bill, I'm like, all my

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Speaker 5: money again, Jesus. Okay, I didn't sign up for this.

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Speaker 5: This is feminism. I want to recount.

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Speaker 4: This is what we was marching for. I think we

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Speaker 2: This reminds me of one of the things that stood

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Speaker 2: A better caliber of man trying to talk to me.

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Speaker 5: The worst thing that ever happened to somebody was a

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Speaker 5: dealing with the best, but only the worst are coming

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Speaker 5: So this is the only goal that I have for

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Speaker 1: Yeah they do that nowadays.

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Speaker 2: Wait, what can you guys tell me about this?

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Speaker 5: What is that Bove had been offered to get me

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because like that. That's why I think it's so funny.

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Speaker 2: Nick Cannon, that's all. That's all I'm gonna say.

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Speaker 5: Right, and there are women who will participate because you

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Speaker 5: if you can get it. Listen, some very rich man

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Speaker 4: Girl.

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Speaker 5: You think i'd be going on the road the way

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Speaker 4: But da da da da dah. I don't know if

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Speaker 2: You're so resilient, you're such a hard worker, you're so

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Speaker 5: Say resilient Resiliency comes from struggle. Resiliency comes from having

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Speaker 5: I wouldn't stop working. Yeah, because I can't be financially

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Speaker 4: That's how you get messed.

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Speaker 3: Up To'll say, I think you're hitting on something that

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Speaker 2: Yes, right, how exhausting it is to be an independent woman.

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Speaker 5: about something and you spelling independent, then it's because think

445
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Speaker 5: about it. One of the reasons I'm not in a

446
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Speaker 5: relationship is because I've been a relationships and dealt with

447
00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:54,080
Speaker 5: men who were resentful because I was successful. Because I've

448
00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:56,159
Speaker 5: heard men say, well, women make as much money as us,

449
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Speaker 5: they won't need us. It's like, of course I need you.

450
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Speaker 5: Trash Day is Tuesday. What are you talking about.

451
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Speaker 2: There's a spider in my bathroom. The feminist leaves my

452
00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:06,880
Speaker 2: body whenever there's a spider, and if.

453
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Speaker 5: There's a spider somewhere, I can't open this jar. I'm

454
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Speaker 5: five four. A lot of things are high.

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Speaker 2: To will say. You said that resilience is a product

456
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Speaker 2: of struggle, and when you said that made me think

457
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Speaker 2: of your experience of growing up all over the country.

458
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Speaker 2: And I really relate to that because that was me

459
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Speaker 2: growing up and it's probably the single most impactful experience

460
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Speaker 2: of my upbringing. How did that shape you?

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Speaker 5: We lived in Miami, Oklahoma, Colorado, and Georgia before I

462
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Speaker 5: started kindergarten, but I also went to very diverse It

463
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Speaker 5: was either predominant white or diverse schools, and so I

464
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Speaker 5: was able to be around a lot.

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Speaker 4: Of different groups of people.

466
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Speaker 5: So I think, for me, I'm very grateful that I

467
00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:52,399
Speaker 5: grew up in Atlanta. Me and our friends were joking

468
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Speaker 5: that every black person that is not from the South

469
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Speaker 5: needs to come to Atlanta. Just for a week or whatever,

470
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Speaker 5: because I got to see black wealth growing up. Yes,

471
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Speaker 5: I got to see generational black wealth growing up. I

472
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Speaker 5: got to see black professionals, but I had black doctors

473
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Speaker 5: growing up, and I got to see.

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Speaker 4: Black people excel.

475
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Speaker 5: I was just gonna see black could be mediocre because

476
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Speaker 5: they lived everywhere. And even if you're outside of Atlanta,

477
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Speaker 5: you're still in Georgia. We're still everywhere in Georgia. Like

478
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Speaker 5: if you go to Savan or you going to Columbus,

479
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Speaker 5: you go to all been like our family down there,

480
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Speaker 5: we're everywhere.

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Speaker 3: I love that you're talking about community because when I

482
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Speaker 3: look at the comedy community, it feels like equal parts

483
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Speaker 3: competitive and supportive, which is super rare.

484
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Speaker 1: Like you guys see really tight knit.

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Speaker 5: It's the interesting thing about comedy is that there's so

486
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Speaker 5: many bad comics. Is that when there's a good comic,

487
00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,920
Speaker 5: like a really good comic, all of the comics were

488
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Speaker 5: like have you seen this person?

489
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Speaker 4: Oh my god d D.

490
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Speaker 5: If I know a comic that's I will tell my

491
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Speaker 5: manager about them if they're not ripped.

492
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Speaker 4: Even if they are, I'm like, hey, this person has

493
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Speaker 4: horrible managers. You need to know about.

494
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Speaker 3: Them, like you want to see good people win, because

495
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Speaker 3: you guys love the sport of comedy.

496
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Speaker 4: Deborah to Giovanni.

497
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Speaker 5: Is one of the best comics in the fucking world.

498
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Speaker 5: We were on the show called The Barbie Show at

499
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Speaker 5: the Comedy Store and it was like me and Tiffany

500
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Speaker 5: and Geniacherie and Laurie Kilmartin and Deborah got on stage

501
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Speaker 5: and a bunch of us and we're all in the

502
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Speaker 5: green room.

503
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Speaker 4: A bunch of us left the green room to watch her.

504
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Speaker 5: And when you see comics come out there, like who's

505
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Speaker 5: on stage, We're all like running to go into the

506
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Speaker 5: audience to watch this person. We were just every time,

507
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Speaker 5: hands on chests, just moving our minds.

508
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Speaker 1: Well, is this what Michelle Bueau did for you?

509
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Speaker 4: Washout?

510
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Speaker 5: She helped me with the idea, She helped me come

511
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Speaker 5: over with the concept of the book. My manager called

512
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Speaker 5: me and was like, hey, what if you wrote a book?

513
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Speaker 5: And I was like that sounds hard, no, thank you,

514
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Speaker 5: And he was like, what if you just took a meeting.

515
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Speaker 5: I was like, I'll take a meeting.

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Speaker 1: I don't mind a meaning.

517
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Speaker 4: I would take a meeting.

518
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Speaker 5: And then I took a meeting, and then I took

519
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Speaker 5: another meeting, and two more meetings later. He called me

520
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Speaker 5: when I was in England hosting some TV show and

521
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Speaker 5: he called me and was.

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Speaker 4: Like, so you got to write a book. I said,

523
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Speaker 4: wait a minute, howd up? I didn't read of this?

524
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Speaker 5: He said you did, uh, he said, Andscape bought your book,

525
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Speaker 5: and so you got to write a book now. And

526
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Speaker 5: I was like, shit, Michelle just done her book, Survival

527
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Speaker 5: of the Thickest and I was just like, I called Michelle.

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Speaker 4: I's like, hey, Michelle, She's like yeah. I said, how

529
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Speaker 4: do I do this? Because I've never read a book before.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to write a book. Why do I

531
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Speaker 4: do this?

532
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Speaker 5: And she said, just start with she said, start with

533
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Speaker 5: jokes that are too long to til on stage. And

534
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Speaker 5: so when you read the story about like the mechanic

535
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Speaker 5: and the dummy and me uh, getting into it with

536
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Speaker 5: one of my bosses at a car lot, those were

537
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Speaker 5: all stories that I wanted to tell well on stage

538
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Speaker 5: that were just needed more context of like teachers and

539
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Speaker 5: stuff like that.

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Speaker 4: And so I started from a place of comedy with the.

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Speaker 5: Book, where we're like, these are all stories that I

542
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Speaker 5: would have loved to tell on stage, but they're too

543
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Speaker 5: long or they need too much context. And then I

544
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Speaker 5: was like, Okay, well, people are gonna want to know

545
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Speaker 5: about Daily Show, and people are going to want to

546
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Speaker 5: know about my childhood. And so that's why I came

547
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Speaker 5: up with like the idea and like the structure of

548
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Speaker 5: the book was talking to the show.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, that's genius. That's such a genius approach to writing

550
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Speaker 2: a comedy memoir. We want to know about the Daily Show.

551
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Speaker 2: We want to talk to you about that. Becoming a

552
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Speaker 2: correspondent and guest host on the Daily Show, I mean

553
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Speaker 2: that seems like one of those look, ma, I made

554
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Speaker 2: it moments, But how did it really feel?

555
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Speaker 5: It's exhausting, and I don't know how Trevor did it

556
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Speaker 5: for seven years. I don't know how John did it

557
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Speaker 5: for twenty something. But I talk about it in a book.

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Speaker 5: I didn't want to audition for Daily Show because I

559
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Speaker 5: didn't want to move to New York. When you audition,

560
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Speaker 5: you have a piece that they have a pre written

561
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Speaker 5: piece for you, and then you have to write your

562
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Speaker 5: own piece. And so I send that tape in and

563
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 5: I'm just like, Eh, I'm probably not gonna get this.

564
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Speaker 5: He calls back, all right, you got another you gotta

565
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Speaker 5: call it back, It's like all right, fine, and then

566
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Speaker 5: you get to write another piece. And so my second

567
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Speaker 5: piece was how hard it is to be black and patriotic,

568
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Speaker 5: especially for me because my birthday is July fourth.

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Speaker 2: Get out really?

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Speaker 1: Mm hmmm?

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Speaker 2: Do you love the holiday?

572
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Speaker 4: It's I mean, as a kid, it sucked, but that

573
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Speaker 4: as an adult it's fine.

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Speaker 3: Do you feel like the Daily Show changed the trajectory

575
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Speaker 3: of your career? Like did it blow up after that?

576
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Speaker 4: I thought it was gonna blow up more? Yeah, Because

577
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Speaker 4: here's the thing.

578
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Speaker 5: My friends think I'm famous and I'm just like, no,

579
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Speaker 5: I'm on TV, and they're like, what, Like, think about

580
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:47,400
Speaker 5: all those shows on the CW. You don't know who

581
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:51,400
Speaker 5: the fuck all those people are. They're on TV, they're

582
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 5: doing well. They are very famous to certain people, but

583
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 5: like Quentin, now, can't go anywhere, right, I just came

584
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 5: back from the grocery store with no problems. So I

585
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 5: am very famous to very specific people.

586
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Speaker 1: But don't you feel like this is the perfect level

587
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Speaker 1: of fame.

588
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Speaker 5: I need the next step up from this, Because because

589
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Speaker 5: one of my friends, who is legitimately famous, came up

590
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Speaker 5: to me and Dave was like, you know, you're famous, right,

591
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,679
Speaker 5: I was like, no, bitch, you're famous. It's like, what

592
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Speaker 5: do you mean, I said, When I walk into a restaurant,

593
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Speaker 5: they say, how many when you walk into a restaurant,

594
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Speaker 5: the whole restaurant loses a mine.

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Speaker 2: Is it fame that you're really after or do you

596
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Speaker 2: think it's respect?

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Speaker 5: Honestly, I just want to be able to go to

598
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Speaker 5: all the little parties I listen. I want to be

599
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Speaker 5: able to get to the essence black lady in Hollywood,

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Speaker 5: uh lunch.

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Speaker 4: I want to be able to get into that.

602
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Speaker 2: You should be there already. That's crazy to me that

603
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Speaker 2: you're not there. Crazy to me as well, you will say.

604
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Speaker 2: I am a sponge for comedian content. I listen to

605
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Speaker 2: every interview with comedians. I watch a lot of comedy,

606
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 2: and I often hear comedians say that they get high

607
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,159
Speaker 2: off the feeling of making people laugh. How real is

608
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Speaker 2: that for you?

609
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Speaker 4: That's not a real thing for me.

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Speaker 2: No, not at all.

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Speaker 5: No, because I came in a different way. Okay, I

612
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,640
Speaker 5: came in as an actor, as a stage actor. What

613
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Speaker 5: I like is the connection with the crowd is what

614
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 5: I'm going for. Like when I look at other comics

615
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 5: and they're just like I just want to make people laugh.

616
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Speaker 5: I got to stand up because of a stand up class.

617
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Speaker 5: I wouldn't have gotten a stand up without a class.

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Speaker 5: So for me, I already knew what a crowd felt

619
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Speaker 5: like before I started doing stand up. There are other

620
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Speaker 5: comics that just started doing shows and had never had

621
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Speaker 5: this experience before, which is insane to me. So like

622
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 5: for me, it's like, I'm always looking for the connection

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Speaker 5: to the crowd, because the crowd's going to tell me

624
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Speaker 5: what I can do. As in, there's some crowds where

625
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 5: you're like, I can try this silly thing and you

626
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:56,199
Speaker 5: can take them with you on this journey of Yea,

627
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Speaker 5: I can a riff, I can go off on this tangent,

628
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Speaker 5: I can do this, and other crowd like I'm doing

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Speaker 5: the hits. I'm doing the things that I know are

630
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 5: one hundred percent funny, and I'm not doing nothing else.

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Speaker 4: This is not the crowd to play with.

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Speaker 3: I think something that we've both noticed during this conversation

633
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Speaker 3: is that you are willing to say the things that

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Speaker 3: a lot of people won't say.

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Speaker 1: Where does that come from?

636
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Speaker 2: In you?

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Speaker 5: I'm a black woman in America. There's a goss courses.

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Speaker 5: I can say what I want Who's gonna tell me now?

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Speaker 3: But I just say nothing, rude, don't say where can

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Speaker 3: we see you next?

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Speaker 5: I have Netflix as a joke on May third at

642
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Speaker 5: the Improv Lab. That's my next big thing coming up

643
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Speaker 5: in Los Angeles. And then for all of my other dates,

644
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 5: you can go to my website, Don'lsaysloan dot com. Also,

645
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Speaker 5: I have a lift gloss business with comedian Lay's Larabee

646
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Speaker 5: called Giggle Gloss Love that, and I pack all the

647
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Speaker 5: orders at the house. Me and Lay started this as

648
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Speaker 5: a company for one pressap merch to sell on the road,

649
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Speaker 5: and two to give other comics the opportunity to to

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Speaker 5: sell merch that's easy to handle on the road. So yes,

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Speaker 5: giggle glass dot com or talk. Two selling colors right

652
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Speaker 5: now are no more Broke Dick, my Ministry and Perse

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Speaker 5: Vodka are too in future, wife, those are top three

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Speaker 5: colors right.

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Speaker 1: Now, not pocketbook vodka and not handbook vodka.

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Speaker 4: No no, no, no pers vodka.

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Speaker 5: Because we are classy young ladies who you know, you'll

658
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Speaker 5: never know if we don't have an adult free son

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Speaker 5: in our band.

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Speaker 2: She's a true multidisciplinary creative y'all. Do we'll say thank

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Speaker 2: you so much, thank you so much.

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Speaker 4: For having me.

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Speaker 1: Thankst'll say, Thanks Bye.

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Speaker 2: Do'll say. Sloan is a comedian and the author of

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Speaker 2: Hello Friends, We'll be right.

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Speaker 1: Back, Sweet, Sweet, dull Sy Sloan.

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Speaker 2: She seriously has the best name ever.

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Speaker 3: She does. She really does. What stuck out to you

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Speaker 3: about our conversation, I.

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Speaker 2: Like how real she was about that achievement of reaching

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Speaker 2: the Daily Show. We tend to romanticize these jobs, these accomplishments,

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Speaker 2: and she was like, listen, it was really exhausting behind

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Speaker 2: the scenes, and at the end of the day, it

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Speaker 2: didn't give me the kind of juice that I thought

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Speaker 2: it was going to.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was actually kind of shocked to hear her

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Speaker 3: say that. I liked how real she was all around

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Speaker 3: you and I have been doing this for ten fifteen years,

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Speaker 3: and it's like, you don't get a lot of people

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Speaker 3: that are just willing to say all the things, because

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Speaker 3: no matter how big of a celebrity somebody is, there's

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Speaker 3: always that next job, and nobody wants to be looked

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Speaker 3: at as a problem or a liability, and so everybody's

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Speaker 3: really careful about what they say, and she was like

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Speaker 3: letting it all hang out.

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Speaker 1: It was very refreshing.

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Speaker 2: It also is good to see that because I think

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Speaker 2: that people can tend to idolize the personalities that they

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Speaker 2: see on TV. But she's just as real as everyone else.

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Speaker 2: The stars, they're just like us. Uh.

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Speaker 1: That's funny.

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Speaker 2: Do'll say as someone who lives unapologetically, And I think

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Speaker 2: you can only get to that place in life if

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Speaker 2: you really learn how to love yourself and be kind

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Speaker 2: to yourself.

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Speaker 1: She's on that journey.

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Speaker 3: I think maybe that's what we want to leave with

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Speaker 3: ourselves and everybody listening today is speak about yourself the

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Speaker 3: way your friends would speak about you. And when I

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Speaker 3: say that, I'm actually really talking to me too.

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Speaker 1: I need to do that.

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Speaker 3: Tomorrow on the show, we have poet Laureate Ada Lamone

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Speaker 3: joining us for National Poetry Month. She's talking all about

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Speaker 3: her latest poetry project and she has a few words

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Speaker 3: for us.

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Speaker 2: Listen and follow the bright Side on the iHeartRadio app,

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Speaker 2: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You can

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Speaker 2: find me Simone Voice on Instagram and TikTok.

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Speaker 3: And I'm Danielle Robe at Danielle Robe on Instagram and TikTok.

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Speaker 1: That's ro Bay.

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Speaker 2: We'll see you back here. Tomorrow, keep looking on the

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Speaker 2: bright side,