1 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 1: Flowing out of the backfields, flowing down the sidelines. He's 2 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: hanging with the boys, presented by Wing Stuff where flavor 3 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: gets its wings. Now your hosts, Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, 4 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross Football is back tonight. Welcome 5 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 1: back to the NFL, and welcome back to another episode 6 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 1: of the award winning in our Minds Hanging with the Boys. 7 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 1: Not in our minds Jesse Holly, Kurt Daniels. Running the 8 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,480 Speaker 1: show is Chris Beam, getting us on all the live 9 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: streams is William Boykins. How are we feeling today, fellas? 10 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: How's he going? Let me say this right here before 11 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: we get started. Man, we are award winning. We have this, 12 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,479 Speaker 1: Yes sir, and I'll tell you what Chris Beam tell 13 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: your boy. Scott per said to bring all of us 14 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: lunches if he's gonna bring you lunches. Okay, thank you, yes, sir. 15 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: I love y'all, I love y'all. Thank you man. The Chiefs, 16 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: the Texans can't wait to watch it. The Cowboys playing 17 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:31,320 Speaker 1: the Rams Sunday night. Big shout out to UH Cowboys 18 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: Pro Shop. They've got a new line of throwback hats 19 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: celebrating the sixtieth anniversary of the Dallas Cowboys, and I 20 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: have one on today. Go check him out. Dallas Cowboys. 21 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: Do we have we have? There's ours itself. Wow, I'm 22 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna want to be a part of the team. 23 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: And you we're a family. And I got stuff. But 24 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: I got this from Derek Eagleton, which, by the way, 25 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: that's why our show is is running a little bit 26 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: late to me. So you and over there and got 27 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: a thing. So I sure I was running late because 28 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: you and Eagleton. No, no, no no, I was here 29 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: on time. Christ doesn't know how to host the show, 30 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: now you Chris never said that. Chris never said that. 31 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 1: You're not telling my boy. Chris, you say hey, hey, hey, 32 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 1: shut up. Didn't say something about four questions for person 33 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: and Bucky Brooks some eight minutes to get ask some 34 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: what Chris beem say that. Chris didn't say none of that. Chris. 35 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: Can we get a nice nice Kurt? I don't know 36 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: if we can hear you. I saw your lips movement, 37 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: but I don't think I saw your lips movie. You 38 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 1: can't hear me. Go back out and come back in. Jesse. 39 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: Can give us some grace Kurt, can you give us 40 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: some nice and and we'll get whatever else we can give. 41 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: So let's get there. Yeah, baby, football is back, sir, Yes, sir, 42 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 1: I wanted to get y'all's opinion on something DeMarcus DeMarcus 43 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 1: Lawrence said. He said he's had to tweak his leadership 44 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 1: style something this year because of dealing with the aggression 45 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 1: and different types of alpha's in the room that want 46 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: to lead. It's really all about maintaining the calmness in 47 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 1: the room. You guys being in a locker room before. 48 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 1: What did he mean by that statement? Well, for me, 49 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: you know, when you have an alpha male like him, 50 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: you're Everson Griffin's in his own world. You got all 51 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: the smith you used to be in that dominant force. 52 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: You got a lot of guys with a lot of 53 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: different opinions. But but sometime, as an alpha mail you 54 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: have to kind of take that that easy course. You 55 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: have to kind of sit back and the one thing 56 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: about being a great leader is being able to receive 57 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: everybody in the room and know where they're at and 58 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: play to that and know how to touch them for 59 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: emotionally on their highs and lows. And that is what 60 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: I think d. Lawd is saying is like he's sitting back. 61 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: He's observing and and when he needs you, he'll push 62 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: your button. He will know how to push that button 63 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: by being observative. Jesse, give us your take on it, baby, 64 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: When you're dealing with alpha males, alpha males come in 65 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:35,359 Speaker 1: and dictate what's going to happen. This is DeMarcus Lawrence's team. 66 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: Who but he he is on defense? He is he 67 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 1: outside of Sean Lee. He's the most tenured defensive player 68 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: on this team. He's been to a Pro Bowl, he 69 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: has a big contract. His face, embody goes up on 70 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: the billboards. He's the one of the media comes and 71 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: talk to. He's the one that we're looking to when 72 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: things don't go right on defense. Last year when he 73 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: wasn't producing sacks, we were coming for DeMarcus Lawrence. This 74 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: is the thing that I do not like. We see 75 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: these players come in and out of the locker room 76 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: time and time again, who have been here for a 77 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 1: cup of coffee, two cups of tea, and all of 78 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: a sudden they get us say so in the matter, 79 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: it's one thing to be able to take in the 80 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: information and give you people a platform to speak up 81 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 1: on things. But as the leader of this team, the 82 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: leader of that defense, DeMarcus Lawrence has to be able 83 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,359 Speaker 1: to come in and show his dominance of saying, I 84 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 1: hear what you're saying. I hear what you're saying. I 85 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 1: hear what you're saying. I'll take I will take them 86 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 1: in two consideration, and then I will tell us how 87 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: we're gonna do things. Like all this jostling back and forth, 88 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: like that's not how we're supposed to go. There isn't 89 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:49,799 Speaker 1: multiple leaders of the package. I'm just saying, yes, everyone 90 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 1: can have a voice, but as as the alpha male 91 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 1: of this defense and one of the leaders of this team, 92 00:05:56,839 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 1: I have to protect. It's where we're looking at this 93 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: and saying, hey, check your house, my lead from this, 94 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 1: not me, take my lead from you, okay, And and 95 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 1: that is basically what I said. But when you have 96 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 1: I'm not saying these guys, he said the complete opposite 97 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: of what I No, no, no, no, I didn't Jesson. 98 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 1: Come on now, where Shannon that you see Shannon is 99 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: receiving us. He's supposed to be the alpha mail or 100 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: these two pit bulls we've been to go at it. 101 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: But anyway, but anyway, what I'm trying to say is 102 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: when Charles Haley came to our team, as long as 103 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: he was bawling and doing what he's done, he worked 104 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: his way. Sometimes a guy can work his way into 105 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: being that alpha male. And I'm not saying that d 106 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:46,919 Speaker 1: lost your back down a by no means because he 107 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: is our guy. But sometimes you have to sit back 108 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 1: and observe the room because the room has to flourish 109 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: through you because of you. Okay, so I made n't 110 00:06:56,440 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: say it's clearly you can understand that, Jesson know. And 111 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 1: since you moved to a better room, a lot but 112 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 1: brighter lights and better why side you seem to hear more? 113 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 1: Thank you? Who's that nice? I don't know? Can you 114 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: guys hear me? I don't know. No, we don't have 115 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: him back? Man? I think you who's I think you 116 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: purposely cut Kurt out? Shannon did? Nice? Nice leader? Who's 117 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: the best leader you guys have ever been around in 118 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: the locker room? Mike Irvy? For me, Mike, is that 119 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: because of the just the passion and the emotion or 120 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: were there other things that he did? Mike? Mike knew 121 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: how to jive with everybody. It didn't matter what position, 122 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: who you were, race, it didn't matter. Mike knew how 123 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: to jive with everybody. He knew how to push buttons, 124 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: he knew how to get everybody going. Some guys like me, 125 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: he could say almost anything to any okay whatever. But 126 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: then leon Let is a different character. Troyman was our quarterback. 127 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: He was a different character. Emmitt Smith, you know, he 128 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: had to kind of cover a little bit because im immant. 129 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: Won't that toughest guys y'all think in that locker room. 130 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: He wasn't that go go guy, you know. And Mike 131 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: was that guy. He could talk to Charles Haley, you know, 132 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: he could. He could, He could get along with Dione Sanders. 133 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: So that was I guy. Michael Irvin man, he could, 134 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: he could reach out and touch everybody. For me, the 135 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys, bet you Jess, I would say, uh, maybe 136 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: Chad Johnson Ocho I was. I was with Ocho and 137 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: uh and uh Cincinnati and oh seven, and he was 138 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: like he was very similar to my to Michael Irvin 139 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: where you know, well it was with the white group, 140 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:48,199 Speaker 1: the black group, the lineman, the linebackers. Ocho was able 141 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: to get in and mix around with all those guys. 142 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: Hear those guys you know, talk to those guys being 143 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 1: that being that group um, and how people are gonna 144 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: say when you played with Tom Brady, and Tom Brady 145 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: wasn't when you talk about like locker room type guy, 146 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: like he wasn't one of those guys that was in 147 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 1: everybody could go on everybody's hell. You respected him because 148 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 1: he was your quarterback, but he didn't flow with everybody 149 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: like Michael Irvin. And I saw how Chad did that 150 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: and how he was able to be around and galvanize 151 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: every single group because guys listened to him. Guys respected him, 152 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:22,439 Speaker 1: and I think the biggest thing, like Michael right, they 153 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 1: may have had some things that happened on the on 154 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: the outskirts of football, when they got on the practice field, 155 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: no one practiced harder than Ocho Sinko. He wanted every rep, 156 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: he wanted to go, every time, he wanted to go 157 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: multiple time. Like he loved football. He wanted to be 158 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 1: a part of it, and that part you always respected 159 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: from the locker room perspective. We talk about leaders in 160 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: locker room leadership. We talk about it on this show 161 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: all the time, and guys stepping up and you know, 162 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: the chemistry and all that. And when you hear as 163 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: a fan, if you've never been in a pro locker room, 164 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 1: you always hear leadership, and you always know what to 165 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: expect that a your leader. You expect them to be 166 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: the one that's kind of the face of the team, 167 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: or the face of the position group, or the face 168 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: of the offense or the defense. They're the ones that 169 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: you know, that that get the interviews, They're the ones 170 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: that that kind of rally the guys. But what do 171 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: they do behind the scenes? Like there's a lot of 172 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:21,319 Speaker 1: you know, we always say on this show, a locker 173 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:26,079 Speaker 1: room is a microcosm of life, right, So what is 174 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: we got you, Kurt? So what is going on behind 175 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: the scenes? What what does a leader do? Are there 176 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:34,959 Speaker 1: are their team meetings that are going on. Are they 177 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: talking about coaches or they talking about you know, the 178 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:40,839 Speaker 1: play calling, or they talking about, Hey, here's how we're 179 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 1: going to talk to the media when they come in. 180 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: Like what are some of the things that go on 181 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,839 Speaker 1: that fans don't know about that these that these leaders 182 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: are taking charge of and doing behind the scenes. Man, 183 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 1: it's just uh, go ahead on, Jesse, go ahead on. 184 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: And I think sometimes, you know, when when things are 185 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 1: going really well for your team, that leader of locker 186 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: room saying, hey, listen, guys, I know that we own 187 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: a three or four game, five game wing streak, but hey, 188 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: let's not let's get let's get in the weight room, 189 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: let's get out film in, let's get out you know, 190 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: get that kind of stuff in. And when things are 191 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 1: sometimes going really bad for your team, they're that are 192 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: reminds you as well. Hey, listen, we got to the 193 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: state of course, because when things are great, everything is fine. 194 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: You know, there's there's sunny days and it doesn't matter. 195 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: Or when things go bad in professional sports, and then 196 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: you have that, you have the media who's always scrutinizing 197 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: every little single thing, that begins to divide the locker room, 198 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: and now you've got guys looking at other guys like, man, 199 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: if y'all can just make tackles, will be fine. Well, 200 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: if y'all can just make first downs, and we'll be fine. 201 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: And the leader is able to keep that group together 202 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: and say, listen, there's outside noise. I get it, we 203 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,199 Speaker 1: understand it, but we got to focus on us right 204 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: down and we got to be able to go out 205 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: here in the meeting room and the practice in the 206 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 1: weight room and the film room everywhere, and be able 207 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,959 Speaker 1: to fix it and and and just be accountable and 208 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: be able to say, you know, hey, point to me 209 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: and say, you know, here's where I messed up. Here's 210 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 1: where I'm wrong, and I'm going to correct it. And 211 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: in looking at each one of these other guys and 212 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 1: say here's where you went wrong, and now you gotta 213 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: correct it. And if we all go and correct our 214 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: own individual mistakes together collectively, we'll be able to overcome 215 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 1: whatever that the bad part about it, You know that's happening. 216 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: When when when you know, I should try to pick 217 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 1: people that I thought were great at what they do minds, 218 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: and I thought the coach Johnson on how he looked 219 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:27,439 Speaker 1: at certain guys and things like that, and he said, 220 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 1: you know, I don't I don't want just great players. 221 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong. That's how you win games with 222 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 1: great players, he said, But if I can get my 223 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: great players to buy into my method of doing things, 224 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: so when things do go bad, you see Troytman going 225 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: to the weight room, You see Michael Urban watching extra film. 226 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 1: You see Eric Williams Uh doing what he has to 227 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 1: do pushing away from the table. You see guys and 228 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 1: key positions. Uh. He wanted a leader at every position. 229 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 1: He liked it where Eric wis with his toughness. Far 230 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: as our offensive line. He liked the way Charles always 231 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:04,319 Speaker 1: was trying to drive guys to get sacked. He liked 232 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: the way Mike l Irvan was always very competitive going 233 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:09,839 Speaker 1: against the defensive backs. He lacked things like that. So 234 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: when you look up and times are bad, you see 235 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: your key stars, your Alfa Mills that Jesse's talked about 236 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: leading by not only by what they're babbling about, but 237 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: what they're doing on the field and off the field. 238 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,599 Speaker 1: I'll give you an example of kind of leadership and 239 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence. And it's a small thing, but it just 240 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: kind of kind of sheds a little light on the 241 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: question that I was asking. I think it was two 242 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: years ago when we were we're heading to the playoffs, 243 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: and we were in the locker room after the game 244 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 1: and everybody was everybody was, you know, pumped up, fired up, 245 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: and we had this idea for a social media video. 246 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:47,439 Speaker 1: Bad been three, three or four years ago, but I 247 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:48,839 Speaker 1: think it was I think it was two or three 248 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: years ago, and I walked I was walking around the 249 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: locker room and I was asking all the guys, hey, 250 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: you on board were doing this, and everybody was like, yeah, 251 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: we'll do it, Let's do it next week, let's do it, 252 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: let's do it. And DeMarcus Lawrence got wind of kind 253 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: of what we were doing, and he walked up to me. 254 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: He said, hey, Shanny, come here for a minute. And 255 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: I walked over and he said, hey man, he goes, 256 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 1: I don't think we're gonna do that video. And I 257 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 1: was like, okay. I was like, what's up. He goes, Man, 258 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 1: we ain't done nothing yet. We didn't want anything. He's like, 259 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: I don't want these guys thinking that, you know, we 260 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: need to go do something. We need to do something 261 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: on the field, and then we'll do all the videos 262 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 1: that you want. He was like, but I think we're 263 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: gonna pass on this one. And that to me was 264 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: like okay, all right, let's yeah, you know, let's go 265 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: do something and then we'll we'll do all this. So 266 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: I think that's an example of some of the little 267 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: things that you know that a leader can do behind 268 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: the scenes that the other guys didn't even know that 269 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: he did. But it was his way of kind of 270 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: keeping the guys in check and not, you know, not 271 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: letting them go put themselves out there to kind of hey, 272 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: let's go do something on the field first. Kurt, we 273 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: got you back. I'm not sure, can you hear me? Yeah? Yes, 274 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: you know what. Hey Kurt, you're back. You're back just 275 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: in time for us to go to Maybe you can 276 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: say I haven't been following what you guys are saying anyway, 277 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: so I can't. Sorry, nice, you never do. Why is 278 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: this show any different? What's that? Never mind, We'll be 279 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: right back on hanging with the boys, ladies and gentlemen. 280 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:23,119 Speaker 1: It's that time again for tailgating with the Auterbox boys. 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Derek Eagleton gave 327 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 1: me this hat. I didn't ask for this hat. This 328 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 1: hat was a gift. So if you have a problem, 329 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,199 Speaker 1: go talk to y'all's boss and tell Derek that you 330 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 1: need a hat. Okay, your boss too. All I know 331 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: is we got styrophone cups and you got a hat, hey, 332 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 1: and I got and they are very nice star phone 333 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 1: cups too. Thank you Wingstop for those very nice Hey asked, 334 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: asked Nate how those cups taste, because he was cheering 335 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:39,679 Speaker 1: on him yesterday. They're real feeling, man. They're expand if 336 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 1: you need, if you drink water behind him, you they're 337 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 1: expanding your good Okay, Oh well, Sunday we get to 338 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: see Mike Nolan and his Cowboys debut. Are we going 339 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 1: to see more three four schemes? Are we gonna what's 340 00:18:56,640 --> 00:19:07,640 Speaker 1: gonna be different? Sunday? We with coaching, So I think 341 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: this week, this this this week, we're gonna tennessee Mike 342 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,880 Speaker 1: Nolan's defense coming up this week, and the one thing 343 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: that we've all been talking about looking at linebackers right 344 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 1: saved these I think particularly that this offense for the Rams, 345 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: they're going to try to use their tight ends to 346 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 1: get something going early in the game. That Higsby, they're 347 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 1: gonna try to get him up the scenes. They're gonna 348 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,120 Speaker 1: try to get him mashed up on some linebackers, get 349 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: him massed up on some safeties. He's pretty good. Yeah, 350 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: I think he's going to be the one that for 351 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:45,120 Speaker 1: us defensively, It's just two things. It's gonna be one 352 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: the tight end, trying to see if they can find 353 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,919 Speaker 1: them with the tight end, but also going back to 354 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 1: when when the when the when the Rams whooped up 355 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: on us and the playoffs, have we fixed those problems 356 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 1: in the middle, like teams haven't forgotten. They're gonna want 357 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: to see if we fix those problems in the middle. 358 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: I know it's a new coaching staff, I know it's 359 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:06,880 Speaker 1: a new whole new deal, but they're still gonna try 360 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: to come out established a run early in the in 361 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 1: the game. But watch for a lot of tight end 362 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: play with Higgsbee up the seams, option routes, really trying 363 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 1: to see if we're secure in our linebacking and safety positions, 364 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: you know, And I agree totally because Jared Goff has 365 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: not proven in his young career yet that he can 366 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: control the game through his own and above the shoulders. 367 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 1: So they're gonna try to get the young cam Makers 368 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 1: and Malcolm Brown going and running and taking advantage of 369 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 1: those tight ends on quick passes because what we what 370 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: we got on our defensive line. So play action pass 371 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: is still gonna be a big part of what coach 372 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: Kevin Kevin O'Connell the new offensive. According to Native, I 373 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 1: think he's gonna talk to the head coach the like, hey, 374 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: how do we get these Cowboys play action pass? Get 375 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:00,880 Speaker 1: the ball out of the quarterback hand is early and 376 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 1: we'll see uh that Tyler Higbee man, he's not been 377 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 1: talked about a lot, but I'm with you, Jesse. He 378 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: can damage us if we don't if I advise safeties 379 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: in and backers don't cover. Well, we talked to the 380 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: previous show about how Jalen Smith could make or break 381 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 1: this defense in some ways. So we're gonna see that 382 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 1: there is this is this his responsibility now if we're 383 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:26,199 Speaker 1: talking about tight ends and stuff, Well, he's shown to 384 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,880 Speaker 1: be a little bit better in coverage, uh, doing practices. 385 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: But you know this is where uh Vresh comes into play. 386 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 1: I mean he's gonna be the other nickel linebacker, so 387 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:42,880 Speaker 1: uh he comes into play. Uh, the safeties come into play. 388 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: It's gonna be multiple things because if this guy proved 389 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: that he can kill they, if he proved they can 390 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: kill the linebackers, they go how to put a safety 391 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 1: on it. And so we'll see how that go. But 392 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 1: this thing is still gonna be built. I think Jesse 393 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 1: all play action pass if they if they can run 394 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: early and control Chempa, because that's what I believe in 395 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 1: this game. Whoever offense control Temple gonna control this game. Yeah. 396 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 1: They sounds like the Rams are kind of going by 397 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 1: running back by committee here with three different guys that 398 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: could see some time. Is that a bigger problem now 399 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: because you've got maybe pressure legs for them, you've got 400 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 1: different styles or is it not easy now? Now? I 401 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: just think out of Malcolm Brown and cam Akers, the 402 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 1: young cam Akers that they draft, I think they're gonna 403 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,360 Speaker 1: try to insert these guys and make sure they get going. 404 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 1: I mean, running back by committee is a great thing, 405 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,199 Speaker 1: but still if you have maybe one or two guys 406 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: that can just get get to going and get into 407 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: a rhythm, get into the floor of pass protection. Yeah, 408 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: I think you see it send a better chance. I 409 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: mean a guy can be a spot guy here and there. 410 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 1: But much like the Cowboys tried to do with Zeke 411 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 1: and Tony Pollard, I think that that is what you 412 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 1: do and have more success. Just give me your thoughts 413 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 1: on that, my friend. Yeah, when you don't have a 414 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: dominant back Zeke or dominant back like um uh, you 415 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 1: know McCaffrey, though, who'll it the bulk of your carriage. 416 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: When you hear the term running back by committee, it's 417 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: basically saying I'm gonna try to find who has the 418 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 1: best rhythm of this game. And once I find what 419 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: running back has the best rhythm of this game, that's 420 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: why I'm gonna gonna ride for the most uh for 421 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 1: the most part. So it's not, you know, there's no 422 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:32,919 Speaker 1: specific number count or snap count or rep count. It's saying, Okay, 423 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,360 Speaker 1: who's seeing the game the best? Which one of these 424 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: backs bring a different aspect to the game. Yes, I'm 425 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: gonna use them both, but I'm gonna try to find 426 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: the one that's really got our offense going really you know, 427 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: getting some chunkyards picking up some pathtections. So running back 428 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: by committee, you know, I don't don't think you're gonna 429 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 1: see a lot of switching those guys out, But it's 430 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 1: more so trying to find who has the better flow 431 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 1: of the game earlier on so that we can ride that. 432 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 1: Because if it's if it's like Nate was talking about it, 433 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 1: if we got the play acts and pass going on, 434 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna keep giving it to that back or 435 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: running those type of plays, I get those linebackers to 436 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 1: cheat up and get those safeties to cheat up a 437 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 1: little bit so that we can go over the top. Um. 438 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:16,919 Speaker 1: But the problem that it poses for the for the 439 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 1: Cowboys defense, it's just styles. It's you know, if you 440 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 1: have a thunder in the lightning, if you have one 441 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 1: guy the bruiser and one guy who's a quick guy, 442 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 1: who who can I match up with who? Because that 443 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 1: the science of football is chess. How can I pick 444 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 1: the right match up every single down? How can I 445 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: get my fast running back on their slow linebacker? How 446 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: can I get my fast receiver matched up what they're 447 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: not so fast cornerback? So it's always just trying to 448 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,439 Speaker 1: figure out the little nuances because when you when you 449 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 1: look at the breakdown of a football game, it usually 450 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 1: comes back down to maybe three or four plays. Where 451 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 1: where guys are, you know, in the game, where the 452 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: plays that are made in guy's not making a play 453 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 1: see Jared Golf. And that's why I'm saying that this 454 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: year here as well as that this is the year 455 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 1: where you walk to the offensive line and correct me 456 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: from Ron Jess. You walk to the offensive line and 457 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: the coaches giving you maybe one or two plays, maybe three, 458 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 1: and giving you an option. But if you see that, oh, 459 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 1: none of these plays work. Here is the best play 460 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: for this situation in down the distance. These quarterbacks, the 461 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 1: Jared Golf class, the D class should be at that 462 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 1: point because all of them have been in the same 463 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: system for more than three years. They should be at 464 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 1: a point now where they say, hey, that's not the play. 465 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: This is the play and try to get that mismatch 466 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 1: that Jesse is talking about. That's where they separates Aaron Rodgers, 467 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 1: the kid in KC. That's what accepts the guy that's 468 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,199 Speaker 1: now with the Bucks who've left New England. That is 469 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 1: what made those guys so seth Drew Brees to see 470 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 1: a better play and the coach give permission hate running 471 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: that play. You saw it. That's the play that's need 472 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: to be done. And the Jared Goff is at that level, 473 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: it don't matter that he has a new wide receiver 474 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: said a new running back set. It's what he sees. 475 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 1: Glad you brought that up. I'm gonna I want to 476 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 1: get into the quarterbacks here in the next segment. Let's 477 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,479 Speaker 1: stick with the Cowboys defense for just a second. Kurt Um. 478 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 1: I think one of the biggest points of frustration for 479 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 1: Cowboy fans last year was the defensive backs and the 480 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 1: secondary seemed like they were a lot of times in 481 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 1: position the best position possible, exactly where they needed to be, 482 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 1: and they would still get a completion on them because 483 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 1: they weren't turning their head around, they weren't finding the ball. 484 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,959 Speaker 1: This coaching staff has made it known that you know, 485 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: turnovers or a priority for him. Are we going to 486 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,880 Speaker 1: see that in this first week right out of the gate, 487 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 1: that it's going to be a different look for the 488 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: dbs and the way they cover, or is that going 489 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: to say take some time and some catch it up 490 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 1: to game speed to you know, get the head around, 491 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 1: and for us to from the physical eye to be 492 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,160 Speaker 1: able to see that no, because you know why, since 493 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 1: you were a top since you were a peewee football player, 494 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: since you were playing little leagues, since she was playing 495 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,439 Speaker 1: high school and she was playing college, if you played 496 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: the defensive back position, you were taught get your head around. 497 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: You were taught that it was actually harder to get 498 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: them the change to the way that they were doing 499 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 1: get under the old regime. And you look at a 500 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 1: kid like Diggs. He is a form of wide receiver. 501 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 1: You saw how the plays that he's been making in practice. 502 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 1: He is going after the football. He is an opportunistic 503 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: young cornerback. Now, sometimes he may get fooled because he's 504 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: a little bit anxious. He's young, so some double bulls 505 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,439 Speaker 1: some things like that may get him early on. But 506 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 1: this is a guy in this this defense, they're going 507 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 1: to be looking to be very opportunistic. It is it 508 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 1: is so much more natural to want to go and 509 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,360 Speaker 1: look for the ball and try to make a play 510 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 1: on the ball than what they were being taught in 511 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 1: the past. So I think allowing him to come back 512 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 1: to the place they've been so accustomed to be with 513 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:12,959 Speaker 1: looking for the ball and now trying to go and 514 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 1: get the ball. And a lot of times a coach 515 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: will tell you, Andy, you can tell me if I'm 516 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:18,880 Speaker 1: wrong on this one or not, but a coach will 517 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 1: tell you, and I've heard it said a thousand times 518 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 1: to me and to other players, go get the football. 519 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 1: If you miss it, that's the first one's on me. 520 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 1: The first you go get that interception. If you miss it, 521 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 1: I'll take that one. I'll take the blame in the 522 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,639 Speaker 1: meeting room if you if you jump route and you 523 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: miss it, the first one's up. Now we're not gonna 524 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 1: take two or three of these, but that one's on me. 525 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 1: I want you to be aggressive because that type of stuff, 526 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: it's easier, it's easier to put the brakes on someone 527 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 1: from being aggressive than it is to get them being aggressive. 528 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 1: I never want my dbs to be scared of making 529 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 1: a play, because if you're scared of making a play, 530 00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: that means you have another guy that you're going against 531 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: who is absolutely not afraid to go and make the play, 532 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 1: and you'll be one step behind every single time. So 533 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 1: I'd rather have a super aggressive dB and I kind of, 534 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 1: you know, pull him back a little bit. Then someone 535 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 1: it's like like, like, I'd rather have a dog that's 536 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 1: gonna hunt. Right. We live in Texas and if we 537 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: got if we got a hunters that are listening, they 538 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: will tell you when they take their their dogo Argentinos 539 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 1: or they're American pit bulls out to the boar country 540 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 1: to hunt boor those that don't want, those that are 541 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: afraid to hunt, you get left at the house. In 542 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 1: some cases, we don't even breathe with you anymore. If 543 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 1: you're a scary dog and you come from a scary breed, 544 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 1: we even breathe with you anymore. So I think this 545 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 1: is I think this way is gonna be much more opportunistic, 546 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 1: a much more aggressive, a much more we go on 547 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 1: a hunt group than we've seen before. Wow, but I man, city, 548 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 1: this city got you got the Jersey guy taking us 549 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 1: out to the field, go hunting the halls. What is 550 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: going on on this show? Man? You know, you know 551 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 1: in practice, man, and that's what I saw. You know, 552 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 1: I saw a lot of balls when a Woozia was 553 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 1: in there and stop stop man the wrong time, Chris 554 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 1: beach Well, when they show a lot of footballs at 555 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 1: a Woozier. He was still not making that play. And 556 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 1: when he got a little bit injured, they brought in 557 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 1: the young guy Digs and he was batting balls now, 558 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 1: and he was jumping routes, and that is what we're 559 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 1: looking for. It's guys at a jump routes. He's got 560 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: a few receptions that it changed the whole way they practice. 561 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 1: They changed the DBS finally said hey, we have a 562 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 1: right to this ball too, instead of just batting it down. 563 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I made people went off. And you know, 564 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 1: let me say this right here. We knew that Diggs 565 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 1: had opportunity to start, but did any of us think 566 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 1: that Anthony Brown will be opening in the season up 567 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 1: at the other corner. Remember he was our slot guy. 568 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: Him and Jordan Lewis supposed to be battling. So for 569 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 1: as of right now, you have to prove that you 570 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 1: can play this position and you have to play with 571 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 1: some type of progressive Now, after the Brown, we have 572 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 1: just think all the balls he's dropped over the years. 573 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 1: But Leasie's dropping balls and not getting beat by balls, 574 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So whoa all right by footballs? 575 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 1: Come on, y'all, stop stop man, keep Let's take yeah, 576 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 1: go ahead, let's take a break man for y'all. Man, 577 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 1: let's take her last break of the night. But even 578 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 1: before we an't even even it's mid day? 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DCRB let Dallas Cowboys or 619 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 1: Them in Blue entertain you with some of the best 620 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 1: hip hop talent in the area. Whether it's the high 621 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,879 Speaker 1: energy co ed dance team or the dynamic drum line. 622 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 1: Either it can be booked to provide a unique and 623 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 1: unforgettable experience for your virtual or in person event. Visit 624 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot com slash dc RB for more information 625 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:38,839 Speaker 1: or book two day. Kurt, you had another question about 626 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 1: the defense. Take it away, sir, Yeah, we for the break. 627 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 1: We were kind of talking about the secondary and Jesse. 628 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 1: Yesterday when we were talking about the Rams defense, you 629 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 1: had said that their biggest weakness might be the secondary 630 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 1: because you had a new defense or a new coach 631 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 1: in the communication could be a problem because they haven't 632 00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 1: any preseason games or anything. Are the Cowboys facing the 633 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 1: same problem, whether the communication or the back end could 634 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,360 Speaker 1: be in this year. Yeah, and that's what all defenses, 635 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 1: you know that that's the biggest key is being able 636 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,719 Speaker 1: to communicate. And that's going to be the challenge and 637 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,319 Speaker 1: chess match for both of these teams. You both have 638 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 1: two new defensive coordinators, you have two new defensive uh 639 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 1: you know bass coaches, so to two new uh sets 640 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 1: of verbiage, and so how can we clearly communicate our 641 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:33,760 Speaker 1: coverages when when you check, how do we check? So Yeah, 642 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 1: that that that is a mirror problem that both teams 643 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 1: can have on Sunday is And again that's what's going 644 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 1: to be very key with emotions and sets and like 645 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 1: Nate said earlier, Dak Prescott coming to the line of 646 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 1: scrimmage and saying, you know, check, check, check, and then 647 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 1: now putting his guys in the perfect position to succeed. 648 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 1: So that's gonna be something that we look. We look 649 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 1: to which one of these secondaries will have the clearest communication, 650 00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 1: who is able to adjust the fastest, and what's the 651 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 1: defense on the back end has the least amount of 652 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 1: bust of coverages because that's a real issue for both 653 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:09,839 Speaker 1: of them, real quick. Before we move on to the quarterbacks, 654 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 1: let's go around the horn. Who who are you most? Kurt? 655 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,479 Speaker 1: Start with you, then we'll go to Nate, then Jesse, Kurt, 656 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,920 Speaker 1: who are you most excited or intrigued to watch on 657 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:26,279 Speaker 1: the Cowboys defensive side of the ball heading into Sunday? Well, 658 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 1: it's probably low hanging fruit, but you know, Digs, I 659 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:31,319 Speaker 1: want to see what the rookie does. I think it's 660 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 1: pretty exciting how he's really come on strong in camp 661 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,799 Speaker 1: and and I's earned a starting spot it looks like, 662 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 1: so let's see what he can do. I'm glad he's 663 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 1: gonna get out there, and I hope he lives up 664 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,440 Speaker 1: to the building. It's gonna be fun to watch. I 665 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 1: want to see linebackers, man, I'm want to see these linebackers. 666 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 1: I want to see what Vaneresh can do with his 667 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 1: coming off the andre. I want to see what Jaylen 668 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 1: can do. He's free now, I mean he's that will backer. 669 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 1: So he's that week's side backer. So he's free to run. 670 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,719 Speaker 1: He were about his position, he has to do it. 671 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,720 Speaker 1: He's free to run. Who's gonna play that strong side 672 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:05,759 Speaker 1: back and for him when they're going to them three 673 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:09,440 Speaker 1: four sets or the nickel tap. Look, so let's just see, man. 674 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 1: I want to see these linebackers do something. I agree 675 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 1: with Nate, but to not belittle that point I'm gonna 676 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,719 Speaker 1: go with. I want to see those dogs come off 677 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 1: the edge. I want to see. I want to see Tank, 678 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,040 Speaker 1: I want to see Alden, I want to see ever Since, 679 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,279 Speaker 1: I want to see Bradley and I. I want to 680 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 1: see all those dogs coming off the edge. I want 681 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 1: to see do we have a scary enough pass rush 682 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 1: that's going to make teams be like we gotta match protect, 683 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 1: or we gotta roll out, or we gotta do something 684 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,560 Speaker 1: because they got four or five dolls coming at us 685 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,839 Speaker 1: every single down. So I want to see. I want 686 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 1: to see, well we be scary enough coming off the ball. 687 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,719 Speaker 1: Getting after the quarterback is going to that is going 688 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,239 Speaker 1: to be so pivotal for what we do as a 689 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 1: defense if those guys of front can get off the 690 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 1: football and make that quarterback very very Hunt, baby Hunt. 691 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 1: I think what makes I think, what makes this year 692 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:09,319 Speaker 1: so exciting on really both sides of the ball, but 693 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 1: particularly defense, is you got your core guys back, but 694 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:19,640 Speaker 1: you have just enough fresh meat in there that are unknowns, digs, 695 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 1: Everson Griffin, you know, Anthony Brown's back in the mix. 696 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 1: You got Layton that had an injury. We don't know 697 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 1: how he's gonna play. There are so many unknowns, yeah, 698 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:34,480 Speaker 1: Alden Smith, there's so many unknowns and so many potential 699 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 1: stars on this team that I think the defense as 700 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,760 Speaker 1: a whole, what schemes are they gonna run, how aggressive 701 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 1: are they gonna be? I think just all around defense 702 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 1: is you know, the offense is going to be super exciting, 703 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,880 Speaker 1: but I think defense is gonna be just as exciting 704 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,680 Speaker 1: because of all the unknowns and all of the what 705 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 1: you think the potential is on the defensive side of 706 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:58,240 Speaker 1: the ball as well. So I'm everything that you guys 707 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,760 Speaker 1: said I agree with, and I think it's just gonna 708 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,359 Speaker 1: be There's gonna be so much going on on both 709 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,840 Speaker 1: sides of the ball that there's so many gonna be 710 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:09,759 Speaker 1: so many things to talk about Monday whenever we come 711 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 1: back to the show. It's gonna be great for us. So, 712 00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,239 Speaker 1: but Shannon, let me let me caution you, because of 713 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,399 Speaker 1: what Jesse said earlier, it's gonna be a lot going 714 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:22,120 Speaker 1: on but on defense they may have to simplify so 715 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,399 Speaker 1: that them assignments will not be blown because these type 716 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 1: offenses would be touchdowns, not first downs, but touchdowns. So 717 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,759 Speaker 1: if they don't do a whole lot on the back 718 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:38,120 Speaker 1: end the first time out against these rams, don't be shocked. Okay, Hey, 719 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,200 Speaker 1: by the way, Nate, great looking shirt you got on there. Man, 720 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:47,959 Speaker 1: that's a solid Cowboys boy. I like that. Listen Cowboys. Hey, 721 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,760 Speaker 1: we got a few minutes, got on his shifts before 722 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,680 Speaker 1: he's got a who is that guy? School? What is that? 723 00:39:54,800 --> 00:40:01,600 Speaker 1: Mike manoy? Hey, I like it all right, we got 724 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 1: a few minutes left where we got to get out 725 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,520 Speaker 1: of here. I wanted to before we leave. Tomorrow is 726 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,040 Speaker 1: a big show. We're gonna make our predictions tomorrow. We're 727 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:11,160 Speaker 1: gonna do our yearly over under. See what you guys 728 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:17,680 Speaker 1: are thinking, Dak Prescott, and you know he will, don't 729 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:23,520 Speaker 1: even bother he will. God, this nice nine the closest 730 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,680 Speaker 1: the closest to that coming true since we've done this show, though, 731 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:28,839 Speaker 1: So you go ahead and do you Nate, you do 732 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,880 Speaker 1: you least going to switch out in ten games? Say Mexico, 733 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:39,719 Speaker 1: thank you, Jared Golf and Dak Prescott will forever be 734 00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,520 Speaker 1: leaked as long as they're in the league together. This 735 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,920 Speaker 1: is you know, I think this year we talked about 736 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:49,000 Speaker 1: earlier on the show. You know, Dak, this this year 737 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:52,880 Speaker 1: will define probably what he is as a quarterback for 738 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:56,719 Speaker 1: his career this season. Who has more to prove this year? 739 00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,280 Speaker 1: Jared Golf took his team to a super Bowl. They 740 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,479 Speaker 1: kind of all off the face of the earth last 741 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:05,680 Speaker 1: year as an offense. Dak's in a huge contract year. 742 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,080 Speaker 1: All the talk. You know, you've got people that love him, 743 00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,920 Speaker 1: people that hate him. There's people that have questions about 744 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:14,279 Speaker 1: his game, people that say he's a top five or 745 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:19,080 Speaker 1: six quarterback. Who has more to prove this season? Jared 746 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 1: Golf or Dak Prescott? Kurt you go first, Well, that's 747 00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:28,920 Speaker 1: interesting because Golf's already been paid and right, you know, 748 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,080 Speaker 1: and be super trying to get paid. Yeah, but he 749 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,960 Speaker 1: had a tough year last year, although their offensive line 750 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:40,200 Speaker 1: was awful last year. So that's I'm gonna say Golf, 751 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,880 Speaker 1: I guess because because I think Dak's a better quarterback, 752 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 1: and I think Golf having been what was it, he 753 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,719 Speaker 1: was a top pick, right, so there might be more 754 00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:50,640 Speaker 1: pressure on him to kind of prove that he was 755 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:54,359 Speaker 1: worth that status, worth this contract, whereas Dak. You know, 756 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:58,240 Speaker 1: I think he's he's got some things to prove, obviously, 757 00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,480 Speaker 1: but I think it's Golf has a more pressures concerning 758 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,120 Speaker 1: you know, where he's come from and how he maybe 759 00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:10,600 Speaker 1: hasn't reached expectations yet. Jesse. Okay, Jesse, I'm gonna say. 760 00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say Dak because if I told you that 761 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,719 Speaker 1: your quarterback would in the first three or four years, 762 00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,560 Speaker 1: would get your team to a super Bowl, you take it. 763 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,799 Speaker 1: I don't care who the quarterback is. If you told 764 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:22,680 Speaker 1: me my quarterback in the first three years, the four 765 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,000 Speaker 1: years of him being in the league will get my 766 00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:29,720 Speaker 1: team to a super Bowl, I'm taking that. So Jared 767 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,800 Speaker 1: Goff has already had some success that we've been dying 768 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,480 Speaker 1: to get to. We've been dying to get to it. 769 00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,080 Speaker 1: We've been begging for an NFC championship game, let alone 770 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:41,239 Speaker 1: a super Bowl. And he's already been paid. So there's 771 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:44,120 Speaker 1: no pressure on Jared Golf. He's been to the Super Bowl, 772 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,759 Speaker 1: he's gotten his money. Yeah, you want to continue to 773 00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:50,200 Speaker 1: have him progress. But Dak, while he's been good in 774 00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,440 Speaker 1: the regular season, we don't play this game for regular 775 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:57,440 Speaker 1: season stats. We play this game for the playoffs, and 776 00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,040 Speaker 1: he is yet to get his team deep into the 777 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,839 Speaker 1: playoffs at any point of his career. And on top 778 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:07,399 Speaker 1: of that, he is looking for a contract. It's clear 779 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,560 Speaker 1: that the Joneses didn't feel that he was good enough 780 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:12,920 Speaker 1: for the for the for the money or years or 781 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,160 Speaker 1: whatever you want to say. That he won it this year, 782 00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,160 Speaker 1: so he has to go out and improve himself, whether 783 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,960 Speaker 1: you're saying the Joneses or to the league. So Golf 784 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,160 Speaker 1: and you're saying Golf's the more successful quarterback because just 785 00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,839 Speaker 1: because of this, that's not the question. That wasn't the question, 786 00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,440 Speaker 1: uestion was. That's my question who to most to proved? 787 00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:33,960 Speaker 1: The question is who has most more to prove? Dak 788 00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,560 Speaker 1: lot of Scott has more to prove this season. That 789 00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,239 Speaker 1: was my follow up question. Then you gotta let Nate 790 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,840 Speaker 1: talk first. No, no, no, you know, I agree with 791 00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,000 Speaker 1: both of you guys said, and I agree with Jesse 792 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,799 Speaker 1: said more. Uh. But go ahead on Kurt with your 793 00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:48,560 Speaker 1: follow up question because I agree with Jesse and I'm 794 00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,000 Speaker 1: not going to repeat it. It's just just three minutes. 795 00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,560 Speaker 1: Is he the more successful quarterback? Then just because he's 796 00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,600 Speaker 1: been in the Super Bowl, even though DAK statistically it's 797 00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:01,680 Speaker 1: been better. Yeah. I mean when you see we only 798 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,960 Speaker 1: judge quarterbacks in this league by rings or who got 799 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:08,040 Speaker 1: closest to the ring. And the one thing that has 800 00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:12,239 Speaker 1: alluded that Jared Goffer had some successful seasons, DA has 801 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:16,719 Speaker 1: some successful seasons. But the biggest pitcher is because they've 802 00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,680 Speaker 1: been linked together the entire time. If there's career ended today, 803 00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:21,680 Speaker 1: you'll be able to say that Jared Goff one got 804 00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,480 Speaker 1: paid two he got his team to a super Bowl. 805 00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:28,680 Speaker 1: So if you're looking at just sheer numbers, yes, DAK 806 00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,560 Speaker 1: may have the better numbers, but what we want is 807 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:35,880 Speaker 1: we would in the first four years, you would swap 808 00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:40,239 Speaker 1: the numbers. If it meant having lesser numbers and us 809 00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:43,080 Speaker 1: attending a super Bowl, you would swap it in the heartbeat. 810 00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,759 Speaker 1: Jerry would swapping in the heartbeat to get his team 811 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,200 Speaker 1: to the super Bowl. If you're saying that, hey, your 812 00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,799 Speaker 1: numbers can be less than this, but we got to 813 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,160 Speaker 1: a super Bowl and it wasn't like we got to 814 00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:54,960 Speaker 1: a super Bowl and you didn't have anything to do 815 00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,000 Speaker 1: with it, Like Jared Golf had a lot to do 816 00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,239 Speaker 1: with that team going to the super Bowl. So for me, 817 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:05,000 Speaker 1: it's it's it's super Bowl. Yes, yes, super Bowl. We'll 818 00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,719 Speaker 1: look at where about super bowls? Man? Like super bowls? Man? 819 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:09,879 Speaker 1: It is just that that can be talked about later 820 00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,360 Speaker 1: on down the line. But Jared Goff has gotten this 821 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,320 Speaker 1: team to sup I promise you this, Jesse, and fellas 822 00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:17,759 Speaker 1: if d would have been in a super Bowl, he 823 00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:23,960 Speaker 1: would have had a contract without So that answers that bro, 824 00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:28,120 Speaker 1: super Bowl get you money with mister Jones trusts me, Jesse, 825 00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,920 Speaker 1: I agree, I agree with you, but real quick, Jared 826 00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:35,080 Speaker 1: Golf has been the most the more successful. I agree 827 00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,279 Speaker 1: with that opinion. Who would you take going forward for 828 00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:41,600 Speaker 1: your quarterback of the future. Oh, I'll take that. I'll 829 00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:45,560 Speaker 1: take that going forward? How about you, Kurt? Yeah, Dak 830 00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,520 Speaker 1: for sure. I'm gonna remember this conversation when we're talking 831 00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:52,560 Speaker 1: about Carson Wentz too. You know what, I just want 832 00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:56,000 Speaker 1: to see this quarterback class grow. And I asked Jesse 833 00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,520 Speaker 1: this last year, when would Dak be able to walk 834 00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:00,719 Speaker 1: to the line and put us in the best sponsible play. 835 00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,839 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz has to do that, Chers has to do that. 836 00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:07,080 Speaker 1: All of these guys right now that's in that class 837 00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,359 Speaker 1: have to do that for me, and then I'll pick 838 00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,640 Speaker 1: at the end of this season. But I'm hoping it's that. 839 00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,960 Speaker 1: I mean, win the Super Bowl. All right, follows, we 840 00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,439 Speaker 1: gotta get out of here tomorrow, Big show. We're gonna 841 00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,759 Speaker 1: give you our predictions for the season. Cowboys record are 842 00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:24,440 Speaker 1: over unders. We might not even talk about the game. 843 00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,319 Speaker 1: We have so much other stuff to talk about. Jesse, 844 00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:30,560 Speaker 1: thanks for coming live to us with that beautiful background 845 00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:35,080 Speaker 1: that almost looks superimposed. Looks amazing. Nate, thanks for bringing 846 00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,480 Speaker 1: it as always. Kurt, thank you for sitting out the 847 00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,799 Speaker 1: first segment. We appreciate it. Thanks for keeping us on 848 00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:45,520 Speaker 1: the air. William. Thanks. We will be back the s 849 00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:49,160 Speaker 1: WBC Mortgage living Room in Frisco tomorrow, the same time 850 00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:55,720 Speaker 1: It's football week. 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