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Speaker 1: Welcome to money Making Conversations.

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Speaker 2: It's to show that she is the secrets of success

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Speaker 2: experience firsthand by marketing and branding expert Rashan McDonald. I

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Speaker 2: will know he's giving me advice on many occasions. And

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Speaker 2: in case you didn't notice, I'm not broke. You know

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Speaker 2: he'll be interviewing celebrity CEOs, entrepreneurs and industry decision make

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Speaker 2: because it's what he likes to do, it's what he

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Speaker 2: likes to share. Now it's time to hear from my man,

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Speaker 2: Rashan McDonald money Making Conversations.

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Speaker 1: There we go. Welcome, You heard him Rashaan McDonald. Like

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Speaker 1: what people say my name correctly? You know I always

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Speaker 1: tell people when you get my name right, thank you.

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Speaker 1: That means I've done something right in my life. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to money Making Conversation masterclass. I'm your host, Rashwan. Our

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Speaker 1: theme is there's no perfect time to start following your dreams.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people they sit around complaining about a

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Speaker 1: lot of things. They get frustrated about a lot of things.

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Speaker 1: If you just start, and if you start with a plan,

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Speaker 1: it's going to be all good. Because see, I recognize

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Speaker 1: that we all have different definitions of success for you, baby,

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Speaker 1: decide for your pack, check up your paycheck. Mine is

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Speaker 1: inspiring you to accomplish your goals and live your very

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Speaker 1: best life. It's time to stop reading other people's success

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Speaker 1: stories and start living your own. People always talk about

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Speaker 1: their purpose or gifts. I always talk about the gifts.

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Speaker 1: You hear people say gifts your gift. Leave with your gift,

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Speaker 1: and don't let your friends, family, or co worker stop

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Speaker 1: you from planning or living your dreams. So let's get

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Speaker 1: money making conversations started. I have a great show line

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Speaker 1: up tonight. I have two of my gospel friends on

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Speaker 1: the show today. The first part of the show be

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Speaker 1: led by Tasha Page Lockhart and the second half of

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Speaker 1: the show my boy Lacrez joining. So let's get started.

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Speaker 1: I guess Hell's from Detroit, Michigan. That's my first guest,

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Speaker 1: multi time vocalist Tasha Page Lockhart. Tasha is the daughter

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Speaker 1: of award winning gospel singer Lisa Page Books of the

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Speaker 1: female group Witness Tasha Page two time Stellar Award winners.

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Speaker 1: To start, we TV's Growing in Gospel. It's the first

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Speaker 1: season and we will be talking about it because I've

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Speaker 1: seen all the episodes. We will hear her life and

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Speaker 1: some of the personal struggles with addiction and mental health issues,

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Speaker 1: including depression and anxiety. We will discuss new projects that

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Speaker 1: she have coming up, because I want to know, I'm

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Speaker 1: pretty sure booking after I've seen this episode, these six episodes,

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Speaker 1: there's a book in her future. I'm just gonna I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying I'm some fortune teller, but there has to

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Speaker 1: be a book a Ouiji board. She's also active in

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Speaker 1: something we will be talking about today for sure. Please

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Speaker 1: work with the Money Making Conversations masterclass for the first time.

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Speaker 1: Tasha Page Lockhart, how you doing, my.

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Speaker 3: Friend, I'm doing well. How were you? Say? So?

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Speaker 1: If you're up in the Detroit you big d up

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'm in Detroita. I'm born and raised here.

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Speaker 3: Oh absolutely.

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Speaker 1: You know I've met there many times. You know, I

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Speaker 1: Some very familiar with Chicago and how has been renovated,

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Speaker 1: there what is the state of Detroit right now? Detroit, Michigan.

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Speaker 3: You know Detroit on the comeback. If you go to

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Speaker 3: it's not just you know how sometimes you know, the

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Speaker 3: down here in Detroit. Such a mixed crowd, you know

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Speaker 3: Detroit is about eighty percent of African Americans. So there's

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Speaker 3: no way you could come to our city and not

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Speaker 3: see you know, they always talk about crime, and they

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, it's really sad that stereotypes do tend

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Speaker 1: property value goes down, you know, the reason people want

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Speaker 1: then you're part of you have to be extra proud

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Speaker 1: like you said, it is eighty percent black Detroit.

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Speaker 3: Yes it is. Yeah, so I'm just about to be

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Speaker 3: So you know, my family has a long, rich history

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Speaker 1: So you had no choice. You had no choice but

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Speaker 3: Right, absolutely, so, I'm proud to be from Detroit.

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Speaker 1: You know, when I think about, you know, music, I

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Speaker 1: that talent to be able to twitch words and make

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Speaker 1: But to sing, that's a special talent. When did you

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Speaker 3: You know, singing the most coveted talent and gift that

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Speaker 3: If I could sing, I never shut up, you know,

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Speaker 3: people always say that when I realized I could sing,

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Speaker 3: doing jingles and voiceovers from Major.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, some some that you may have recognized, they didn't

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Speaker 1: that's a jingle. How does I remember when I had

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Speaker 1: Jamie Foxx show back in ninety nine, we made a

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Speaker 3: So I'm gonna take you on the journey real quick.

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Speaker 3: This is how my life has always been set up.

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Speaker 3: And I know this is not a gospel show, but

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Speaker 3: add Him into everything that I do. So you know,

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Speaker 3: I you know, I'm not gonna ask for forgiveness, but

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Speaker 3: brag on how good God is because this is how

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Speaker 3: my life has always been set up. I live by this,

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Speaker 3: So I went in the next rooman did the commercial.

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Speaker 3: But whenever you get out of place, when you come

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Speaker 1: Well that's you know, that's important what you're saying, Tasha Page,

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Speaker 1: and it's about fear, because fear stopped a lot of people.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, you know, when you got every opportunity

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, you have to perfect your craft. You can't just

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Speaker 3: doesn't make ways. Yes he will open doors. He will

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Speaker 3: put you on the minds of certain people. But when

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Speaker 3: whatever it may be. Get your Do you get media

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Speaker 1: Keep winning. Welcome back to Money Making Conversation. I'm talking

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Speaker 1: to Tasha Page Lockhart. Incredible singer going to sing. You know,

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Speaker 3: reality TV because they cannot edit and something you never said,

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Speaker 3: but if it comes out of your mouth and you

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Speaker 3: don't have creative controller, you're not as one of the producers,

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Speaker 3: then you can't control how they edit, or they do

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Speaker 3: a facial expression, or they cut something up and make

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Speaker 3: it seem like you said something that you didn't. You know,

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Speaker 3: it's really tricky and you have to use wisdom. You

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Speaker 3: gotta be cognizant of the fact that you know they

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Speaker 3: can make this look however they want to.

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Speaker 1: Right, So let me ask you this. So when you

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Speaker 1: with your husband trying to reconcile, right, trying to with

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Speaker 1: thoughts running through you through your mind, I got to

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Speaker 1: play it this way or was that an honest moment?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 1: I'm just asking you know, because because you know, things

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Speaker 1: can go sideways, Like you said, whatever they capture on fam,

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Speaker 1: whatever they capture on audio, you know, and this relationship

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Speaker 1: can go sideways when you walk into these scenes and

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Speaker 1: you know these are real scenes. You know that's a

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Speaker 1: man that you had a relationship, that was a man

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Speaker 1: you're trying to reconcile with Tasha. What goes in your

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Speaker 1: mind to protect who you are but also be as

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Speaker 1: real as possible.

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Speaker 3: In those moments, You're not thinking about protecting who you are.

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Speaker 3: You're just you're playing the moments out right. You know,

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Speaker 3: you don't know what you're gonna say because there's no scripts.

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Speaker 3: It's real. Like if there's no scripts, you get a

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Speaker 3: you get a time sheet in the morning. Sometimes you

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Speaker 3: don't even know where you're filming, so you get a

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Speaker 3: time sheet in the morning that says, this is what

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Speaker 3: time you're filming, this is the location. Sometimes you don't

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Speaker 3: even know who you're filming with. You know, with that

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Speaker 3: thing with him and I, we knew we were filming

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Speaker 3: that scene, but we avoided a lot of conversations because

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Speaker 3: we wanted it to be real, we wanted it to

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Speaker 3: be natural. And then we had a conversation prior to

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Speaker 3: that where we said, Okay, these are the things that

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Speaker 3: are off the limits. We're not gonna talk about expouses,

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Speaker 3: We're not gonna talk about children. We're now I'm not

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Speaker 3: going to bring up your church. It was just certain

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Speaker 3: things that we said, these will be off limits. Let's

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Speaker 3: keep the conversation focused on you and I. And so

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Speaker 3: those are some things that you have to do with

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Speaker 3: reality TV. But at the end of the day, I

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Speaker 3: felt like a lot was accomplished because we were able

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Speaker 3: to show like, yeah, we're believers, we're Christians, but we

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Speaker 3: have we our lives getting messy, we make mistakes just

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Speaker 3: like you. Such happened, and so I was I was

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Speaker 3: happy when I when I looked back at it, I

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Speaker 3: was a little nervous, But when I back at it,

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Speaker 3: I was like, you know, I'm proud of myself because

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Speaker 3: I did something that first of all, I'm a woman.

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Speaker 3: Number two, there's some men that wouldn't even go on

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Speaker 3: national television and admit to having an affair. So it's like, I.

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Speaker 1: Wasn't gonna say that, I ain't putting all your business

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Speaker 1: down in the streets.

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Speaker 3: Now, all your business it's already on. It's already on. Listen.

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Speaker 3: I ain't got no shame in my game. It is

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Speaker 3: what it is.

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Speaker 1: You know, because y'all were separated that when it happened.

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Speaker 1: Y'all was separated. Okay, let's go and get the facts right.

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Speaker 1: There were separated.

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Speaker 3: Okay, we were separated, and now I did think we

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Speaker 3: were getting the divorce at the time we ended up getting.

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Speaker 3: But it's still I have to be held accountable for

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Speaker 3: my actions. There's no for that. You're not divorced until

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Speaker 3: you're divorced. And I would not suggest or or advise

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Speaker 3: any person that is separated or going through a divorce

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Speaker 3: to give their body to somebody else. You know, go

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Speaker 3: through your healing process, love on yourself, get hell, get whold,

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Speaker 3: go through therapy, do all of those things before you

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Speaker 3: jump into another relationship, because all you're doing is damaging

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Speaker 3: yourself even more. So, you know, I know where I

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Speaker 3: went wrong, and that was a part of me coming

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Speaker 3: on the show to say I'm woman enough to admit

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Speaker 3: when I've been wrong and to apologize and keep it moving.

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Speaker 1: Well, let me tell you something you're doing more than that.

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Speaker 1: You know you are so talented. I'm just gonna let

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Speaker 1: you know so talent, so gifted. You're such a great communicator.

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Speaker 1: What I know. We're wrapping up the interview here, and

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Speaker 1: like I said, she called me rich and how long

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Speaker 1: am I talking? I can talk to you for an hour.

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Speaker 1: I swear to you you that you know you you

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Speaker 1: are that good of a storyteller, and you don't you know.

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Speaker 1: I can tell when I'm talking to people when they

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Speaker 1: they're they're they're couching their words, and I don't want

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Speaker 1: to say that, you're just talking, and you're smart enough

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Speaker 1: to say. This is how I'm an honest person. So

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Speaker 1: I have nothing to hide. And so with the stories

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Speaker 1: of the information I share with you is really on it,

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Speaker 1: and that came across on the show, So I know

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Speaker 1: that they got to be a book coming up. Are

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Speaker 1: you're going to write a book about your life that

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Speaker 1: you've experienced so far? What's the future for Tasha?

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Speaker 3: So I have one book that I put out a

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Speaker 3: few years ago. It's called and the Winner is Tasha

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Speaker 3: Pay's Back uncut. You can find that on Amazon. But

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Speaker 3: I am working on my second book, and it's called

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Speaker 3: it's a work book attached to it and it's called

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Speaker 3: it's simply called do the Work, which is the process

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Speaker 3: that I've been going through over the past two years

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Speaker 3: after being separated and then going through a second divorce,

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Speaker 3: which has been very public. There's a lot of work

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Speaker 3: that has to be done. There's a lot of work

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Speaker 3: that should be done before marriage, there's a lot of

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Speaker 3: work that should be done during marriage and after if

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Speaker 3: you go through a divorce or in a separation or

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Speaker 3: whatever the case may be. And not just in marriage,

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Speaker 3: but in life. There is work that needs to be done.

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Speaker 3: Nothing comes easy, but if you put in the work,

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Speaker 3: there is a great new ward that you will receive.

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Speaker 3: And so that's that I want people to really grasp

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Speaker 3: the idea of you know, you can have all of

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Speaker 3: this vision and all of these ideas and say what

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Speaker 3: you want to do, but those things will not materialize

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Speaker 3: until you start putting in work.

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Speaker 1: Wow, Tasha, tell everybody about your handles, how they can

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Speaker 1: reach you all these good things. Interview.

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Speaker 3: You can reach me on Instagram at Tasha Page Lockhart

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Speaker 3: on Twitter at Pasha Lockhart. You can go to my

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Speaker 3: website tp Lministries dot com where you can get new

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00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:28,880
Speaker 3: merch There you can sign up for a one on

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Speaker 3: one life coaching consultations, or vocal training or artist development.

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Speaker 3: You can actually buy my book on the website, All

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Speaker 3: Things Tasha. You can book me from the website. Again,

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Speaker 3: that's tp lministries dot com. Also, I'm going on tour.

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Speaker 3: I'm excited first week at June going on tour with

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Speaker 3: a comedian and his name is Travail Judt's going to

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Speaker 3: be merging. Yeah, we're going on tour and we're going

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Speaker 3: to be merging comedy with music and I'm excited to

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Speaker 3: premiere new music coming out in July answer seeing some

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Speaker 3: of your Sunday best favorites. And you can get the

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Speaker 3: tickets now go to this is Me tour dot net.

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Speaker 3: This is me tour dot net and find your city there.

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Speaker 3: And we're adding more cities because we're going to be

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Speaker 3: going all the way into August with the tour. So

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Speaker 3: I'm excited about that.

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Speaker 1: Cool. I want to thank you for coming to my show.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate you.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: I got to come back because I want to do

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Speaker 1: some more things with you this summer. If you have time,

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Speaker 1: please let me know, Okay, because you're fantastic, You're amazing, and.

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Speaker 3: Again, thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for coming on Money Making Conversation master Class.

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Speaker 1: All right, Tasha Paige Lockhart, Bye, bye, my friend. Well

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Speaker 1: I told you it's going to be a spirited show.

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Speaker 1: I got my gospel's Friends on the show coming up next.

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Speaker 1: You have to be my fourth time interview in this

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Speaker 1: young brother we like friends. First time I interviewed him, well,

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Speaker 1: actually the first time I saw him was in Houston

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Speaker 1: at the super Bowl event and I realized that guy's gifted.

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Speaker 1: His name is La Crave. Be right back with more.

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Speaker 1: They call him Christian rapper. I call him a brother

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Speaker 1: who's doing things and changing the world. The crate right

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Speaker 1: back after this break with rashon McDonald's money making compas

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Speaker 1: with his master class