1 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: Good morning. 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 2: I'm Stephen Carroll. 3 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 3: And I'm Caroline Hetger. Here are the stories that we're 4 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 3: following today. 5 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: Bloomberg has learned that UBS is planning to cut more 6 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: than half of Credit Swie's forty five thousand strong workforce. 7 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 1: The job losses will start next month and focus on bankers, 8 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: traders and support staff, and Credit Swee's investment bank in London, 9 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: New York and some. 10 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 2: Parts of Asia. 11 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: Our Wall Street correspondent Chnalie Bassek breaks down how these 12 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: cuts will happen. 13 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 4: The way that this will be done, according to people familiar, 14 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 4: is three rounds of job cuts this year, with the 15 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 4: first round expected by the end of July and two 16 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 4: more rounds tentatively planned for September and October. So certainly 17 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 4: through October through the end of the year, there will 18 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:46,160 Speaker 4: be kind of a lot of communication with staff, plus 19 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 4: probably a lot of conversations across Wall Street and global finance. 20 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: Chanalie Bassek says UBS intends to reduce the total combined 21 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: headcount of one hundred and twenty thousand by about thirty percent. 22 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: The Swiss lander wants to save a end six billion 23 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: dollars in staff costs. It looks to solidify its now 24 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: completed credit Sueeze takeover will be joined in a moment 25 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: for more on this story by Bloomberg's Zurich based reporter 26 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: Marion Halftermeier, who broke the story. 27 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 3: Jeffries has reported a twenty six percent plunge in investment 28 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 3: banking revenue amid a global slump in deal making. More 29 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 3: on that from Bloomberg's Charlie Pellett. 30 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 2: It pulled down profit for the period. Investment banking revenue 31 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 2: declined to five hundred ten million dollars in the period 32 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 2: ending May thirty first, that fell short of the six 33 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 2: hundred sixty three million dollar average estimate of analysts in 34 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 2: a Bloomberg survey. Jeffries says the results were quote consistent 35 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 2: with a significant decline in global mergers and acquisitions volume. 36 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 2: Jeffrey's earnings offer a look into how Wall Street performed 37 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 2: during a period of turmoil as several regional banks collapsed 38 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 2: into government receivership in New York. Charlie Pellett Bloomberg Daybreak. 39 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: Europe, more than ten thousand US bagged bank jobs have 40 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: been cut this year. Some of the biggest productions were 41 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: at Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley. They've both trimmed more 42 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: than three thousand jobs each, with more rounds of cuts expected. 43 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 1: Alison Williams, a senior analyst for Bloomberg Intelligence focused on 44 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: global investment banks and asset managers, says firms are playing 45 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: catch up with the market. 46 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 5: It's a tough environment. We're seeing broadly across the industry. 47 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 5: Investment had count coming down, and that had count. I 48 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 5: would say it is not a foreid indicator so much 49 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:32,959 Speaker 5: as catching up to the significant DECLINEY saw on investment 50 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:36,519 Speaker 5: banking revenues last year down fifty percent. This year, there 51 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 5: was hopes that we would get some kind of rebound. 52 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 5: We're seeing things studying at pre pandemic levels, so really 53 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:43,959 Speaker 5: soft levels. 54 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: That's Bloomberg Intelligence is Alison Williams there, who added that 55 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 1: it's a tough market for job applicants as investment banks 56 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:53,119 Speaker 1: face one of the weakest years in the last decade. 57 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 3: Nvidia led declines in shares of US chip makers in 58 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 3: late US trading after the Walls feature reported that Washington 59 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 3: could soon close loopholes in the sale of powerful chips 60 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 3: to China. Mona from Bluebeg's Doug Krisna. 61 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 6: The chips are those used to train AI models, and 62 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 6: the restrictions are aimed at containing China's technological rise, but 63 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 6: the move would clearly dent sales, and Vidia gets nearly 64 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 6: twenty percent of its revenue from China. Its chips are 65 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 6: vital to the development of generative AI models such as chachipt. 66 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 6: This year in Nvidia produced less capable chips below thresholds 67 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 6: requiring a license from the Commerce Department to export to 68 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 6: China or other countries of concern, but Washington is now 69 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 6: weighing action as soon as next month to expand the 70 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 6: curbs to include those lower powered semiconductors. In New York, 71 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 6: I'm Doug Prisoner Bloomberg Daybreak. 72 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: Europe underlying inflation needs to be firmly in retreat before 73 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: the European Central Bank can consider pausing rates. That's according 74 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: to Governing canceled member Pierre Wunsch, speaking to Bloomberg, the 75 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: hawkish Belgian Central Bank chiefs that a September pause is possible. 76 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 7: We need core to go down and we have only 77 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 7: one reading of CORE by July, so the likelihood that 78 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 7: that reading would completely change the perspective we have on 79 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 7: Core is relatively limited, but we have three readings of 80 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 7: core before September, so that's wait. If it goes down, 81 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 7: it goes down, maybe we can pose. 82 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: They comment by Pierre Runch on the sidelines of the 83 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: ECB's annual forum in CenTra, come after President Christine Legard 84 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: warned that peak rates are still some way off well. 85 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 3: In other ECB news, Italian Prime Minister Georgia Maloney's government 86 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 3: has selected ECB executive board member Fabio Panetta as the 87 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 3: next Bank of Italy governor. The Italian head of state 88 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 3: will need to approve the selection before Panetta can take 89 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 3: up his role at the end of October, when current 90 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 3: Governor Ignacio Visco steps down. 91 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: And almost half of UK home sellers were forced to 92 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 1: cut their prices by more than five percent last month, 93 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 1: according to the property portal ZUPLA. The new data comes 94 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: as surging mortgage costs put a strain on the market. 95 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: ZUPLA says about fifteen percent of sellers accepted at least 96 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 1: ten percent off their initial asking price, with discounting at 97 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 1: its most widespread since twenty eighteen. Despite the reductions, the 98 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: firm reports the average house prices are still higher than 99 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: a year ago. But that momentum is slowing sharply. 100 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 8: Okay, those are a few of our top stories this morning. 101 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 3: So rising interest rates here in the UK, this is 102 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 3: the back job the Chances meeting companies to put pressure 103 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 3: on them to pass on any cost cuts to UK 104 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 3: consumers and for banks to pass on high interest rates 105 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 3: to savers even as we're seeing those cracks in the 106 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 3: mortgage market. 107 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, this look, this is an area that the government 108 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: has little power to actually compel change, but they are 109 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: looking to exert some of their political pressure on the 110 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: banks at a time when we're looking at inflation being 111 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: high for some fourteen months now. Blueberg Economics, as we 112 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 1: were reporting, changed its outlook for the UK economy. They're 113 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 1: now forecasting a recession starting from the fourth quarter of 114 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: this year if rates hit five point seventy five percent, 115 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: which is worth pointing out is lower than what the 116 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 1: markets are expecting Bank of England rates to go to. 117 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a bit of a difficult backdrop and this 118 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 3: will perhaps be the foundation of my conversation tomorrow. I'm 119 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 3: hosting a panel for the City UK tomorrow. The title 120 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 3: of the panel driving Economic Growth in a stable and 121 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 3: Resilient Economy that's the title. 122 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: It's just a small challenge for you to undertake. 123 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:34,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, very interesting people will be participating though, Gareth Davies, 124 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 3: who's the Exchequer Secuy to the Treasury, Julia Hoggart of course, 125 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 3: CEO of the LUDS of Stock Exchange, Chris lay From, 126 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,799 Speaker 3: Marsh mcclennan, and Tina Lee who's the CEO of Deutsche 127 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 3: Bank for the UK and Ireland. Now. The one bright 128 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 3: spot and I want to add this in, of course, 129 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 3: is the signing of the Memorandum of Understanding on Financial 130 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 3: Services between the UK and the EU. So that happened yesterday, 131 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,359 Speaker 3: so I want to layer that in too. So I 132 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 3: really hope that you'll listen into the panel which we're 133 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 3: going to bring you live tomorrow morning at nine point 134 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 3: thirty am from the Q two Center in London, and 135 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:06,799 Speaker 3: earlier in the morning we'll have a lot of guests 136 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 3: running up to that panel to sort of give us 137 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 3: more details of whether the UK is right now economically, 138 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 3: politically and for financial market. 139 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: Look, this is the moment to be having that conversation 140 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: when we're looking at the strains on the economy and 141 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: the challenges being faced by businesses here at such a 142 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: pivotal time for the UK, so that will be really 143 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: compelling coverage we're expecting from the City UK conference tomorrow. 144 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: Let's get more though, First on the news from UBS 145 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: today their plans to cut huge numbers of workers from 146 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: Credit Suite after the emergency takeover earlier this year. Bloomberg's 147 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: Mari and Heal Tomaara broke this story. She joins US 148 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: Now Live from Central Zurich for more. Good morning to you, Mary, 149 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: and the Credit sue workforce is forty five thousand people 150 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: who is most likely to be affected by these cuts 151 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: and when good. 152 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 9: Morning, Yes. So what we understand with my colleagues who 153 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 9: helped me and broke the news across the world is 154 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 9: that the most affected individual at least in the first 155 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 9: round of cuts, will be those in the investment, banking 156 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 9: and trading divisions. So you're thinking about your dealmaker, advisors 157 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 9: and your traders as well as the support functions around there, 158 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 9: so the people doing the administrative tasks that helps those 159 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 9: businesses function, and that's going to be happening as soon 160 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 9: as July, and then we expect a few more rounds 161 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 9: this year as well, which may then start to touch 162 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 9: other parts of the. 163 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 3: Business, Marian, good morning. Are these numbers surprising? 164 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 9: Not necessarily, We were expecting in the tens of thousands, 165 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 9: you know, anywhere between twenty and forty thousand, just given 166 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:39,719 Speaker 9: the size of the two businesses and the overlap that 167 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 9: there is in both their investment banking divisions, their wealth 168 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 9: management divisions and as well as the domestics Swiss business. 169 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 1: Marion, We've been reporting you and other colleagues around the 170 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 1: world have been reporting about high profile departures from Credit 171 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: Suite since the bank's been experiencing troubles of a recent 172 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:01,959 Speaker 1: month running up to the merger UBS and afterwards as well. 173 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,439 Speaker 1: Do we have any idea how many people have already 174 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:08,719 Speaker 1: left the bank since the merger was announced, so in. 175 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 9: Summer marks recently, I think it was this mod the 176 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 9: last month UBS is the CEO Sergio Manti actually mentioned 177 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 9: that he had seen that ten percent of Credits staff 178 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 9: had left since the merger in March, so that's about 179 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 9: five thousand people. We know that there were a lot 180 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 9: of departures before March the merger in March, just over 181 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 9: the last couple of years, As you mentioned, there were 182 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 9: a lot of mismanagement issues, losses in different parts of 183 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 9: the business that have caused people to see writing on 184 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 9: the wall and want to leave before it and stuff 185 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 9: like this. 186 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 3: Okay, what about the Swiss business? What changes can we 187 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 3: expect there now? 188 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:48,959 Speaker 9: So we're still waiting for the final decisions as to 189 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 9: whether or not they will integrate the two domestic Swiss businesses. 190 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 9: There's been a lot of controversy around that Swiss politics 191 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 9: and Swist economy about whether or not it would be 192 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 9: too big and therefore have too much mark a chair. 193 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 9: But the base case is what the UBSCO has said, 194 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 9: is that they do plan to integrate them and keep 195 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 9: the business. So for the moment, any job cuts, from 196 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 9: our understanding, would exclude those businesses until we have a decision, 197 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 9: which should be in the third quarter of this year. 198 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: Okay, an absolutely fascinating story and we appreciate your time 199 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: bringing is the details this morning. That's Bloomberg's Marry and 200 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: have tomorrow their reporting live from Zurich this morning. 201 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 3: Up next phoning it in and what a CEO taps 202 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 3: out so most James look cut join us now for 203 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 3: a look at what is in the newspapers. Good morning, James. 204 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 3: The Guardian has an exclusive on greedflation on your phone contract. 205 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 10: Yes, now, I mean we've been talking all week about 206 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 10: sort of what is driving that UK CPI figure, what 207 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 10: is driving up sales and increasing that it might be 208 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 10: about businesses and what that means to the government with 209 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 10: Jeremy had meeting with regulators today and the Chance is 210 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 10: expected to try and ask them to lay down the 211 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 10: law and start pushing. So it's almost in the Guardians 212 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 10: wanting to have a story saying that phone contracts that 213 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 10: are going up the most in thirty years, and they 214 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 10: call this greenflation. Now, I want to put a bit 215 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 10: of skepticism here because a lot of these contracts are 216 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 10: tied to CPI. So CPI is the highest in thirty 217 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 10: forty years. It's not surprising the phone crunt that's going 218 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 10: up for the highest than thirty four years. But here's 219 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 10: where get things interesting. Over the pandemic, the company's added 220 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:21,599 Speaker 10: a three point nine percent search arge that would go 221 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 10: up every year as well. Because inflation was near zero. 222 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:26,719 Speaker 10: They've kept that. So actually you're looking at inflation of 223 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 10: in some of these contracts of say fourteen percent, the 224 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 10: highest in a virgin money, oh two seventeen percent because 225 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 10: they use RPI which is quite a sneaky way of 226 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:41,079 Speaker 10: adding on house price inflation, which normal CPI baskets don't count. Now, 227 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 10: Chris Pike, the head of Digital markets at Fidera's, is 228 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 10: quoting the piece saying this is not the sort of 229 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 10: stuff that should be happening in the competitive market. And 230 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 10: he's leading to the fact that this three point nine 231 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:55,839 Speaker 10: percent is uniform across all six largest networks, and he 232 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 10: said that's not really competing for the best customers. That 233 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 10: seems to be like tacit collusion in his view, and 234 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 10: I'm quoting him. Spokespersons for BT three, Virgin Media two 235 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 10: and Vodafone all say that while they understood consumers were 236 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 10: under pressure, they face their own increases in costs and 237 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 10: need to put up prices to continue investing in improving services. 238 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 10: That's in the Guardian this morning. 239 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, it was a fascinating discovery for 240 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 1: me as I re entered the UK phone market that 241 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 1: this was normal practice because in other major parts of 242 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:27,559 Speaker 1: Europe it's not, certainly my experience in Frances that prices 243 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: don't go up on your contracts while you're while you're 244 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: staying at the same company. 245 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 3: Well, having said that I think this is also highlighted 246 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:36,959 Speaker 3: much more recently, you know, something of the last kind 247 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 3: of year or two I think in particular. But yes, 248 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 3: let's see whether the CMA with the FCA, who were 249 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 3: all attending that meeting with the chance that whether they 250 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:45,199 Speaker 3: succumb you know, to the. 251 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 8: Pressure, whether they can actually do anything about it. 252 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: Well, let's go next, James to the Financial Times and 253 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: Sky News reporting to on a flood of bad news 254 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 1: coming out of tames Water. 255 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 10: Yes, I mean the CEO of Thames Water, Sarah Bentley, 256 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 10: has resigned with im effect last night. I mean, I 257 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 10: have the pressure that's up in front of me and 258 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 10: it does not give a reason, and the Sky News 259 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 10: and FT are reporting on it and pushing that story 260 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 10: further to look at how this could be a major, 261 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 10: major problem. I mean, Thameswater serves fifteen million customers across London. 262 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 10: That is a quarter of Britain's population. And it's not 263 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 10: been without financial words. It has been find multiple times 264 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:25,079 Speaker 10: in the past few years for seward's leaks and overcharging customers. 265 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 10: The company has not paid a dividend for the last 266 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 10: six years. There are a range of issues and it 267 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 10: is currently struggling with fourteen billion pounds in debt, and 268 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 10: this comes as it is coming under pressure to refinance, 269 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 10: and not only to refine, so then invest that money 270 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 10: in trying to fix its infrastructure. Because of what this 271 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 10: comes back to, this regulator story does have price controls. 272 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 10: Unlike off Gem on the telecoms operators, water companies can't 273 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 10: generate additional income. It all comes back to bonds and 274 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 10: nearly one point four billion pounds of Thames Water's bonds 275 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 10: mature by the end of next year. That's what Sky 276 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 10: point out. So the FT then points out though that 277 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 10: any financial collapse here, which they say is a serious 278 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:07,439 Speaker 10: possibility they've talked to ministers, are apparently war gaming. This 279 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 10: scenario could have a domino effect and lead other water 280 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 10: companies to topple. And that's what one chief executive of 281 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 10: another water company told the FT in December. Off What 282 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 10: warned it was concerned over the financial resilience of Thameswater, 283 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 10: Yorkshire Water, SCS Water and Portsmouth Water. 284 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, and of course Thames Water is owned by you 285 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 3: know a lot of different pension funds. They've got to 286 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 3: come up with their business plan between twenty for twenty 287 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 3: twenty five, twenty thirty, So that's the next Also another 288 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 3: big crunch point coming. 289 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 10: And when we talk about sort of corporate distress coming 290 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 10: in this market with inflation, I will point out that 291 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 10: more than half the water sector's debt on average is 292 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 10: inflation linked. 293 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: So that's off work for a water off come for telecoms. 294 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: Off jam is the energy regulator. Thanks listeners for getting 295 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: they're off some mixed up this morning. Let's go next 296 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: to the Wall Street Journal James and a word on 297 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: Elon Musk. 298 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 10: Yes, they have a pretty bombshell of a story which 299 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 10: starts with the line I'm just going to quote it 300 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 10: and for Elon must takes Kessamin Sergei Brinn sometimes enjoys 301 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 10: magic mushrooms. It's that it and it drigs into this 302 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 10: idea of Silicon Valley. It has become a home for 303 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 10: recreational drug use. Micro dosings is often known. A lot 304 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 10: of CEOs say it helps with them retain focus. Elon 305 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 10: Musk responded to the story in a tweet saying he 306 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 10: believed Kessman is a better way to deal with depression. 307 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 10: I have to say at this point these substances are illegal, 308 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 10: and medical experts will tell you that self medicating is 309 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 10: not a good idea because it can slide into abuse 310 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 10: and it is fascinating now. Or that means, for say, 311 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 10: corporate governance, that you have a CEO who publicly says 312 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 10: that he believes that this is a better way to 313 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 10: deal with depression, and the Wall Street Journal site that 314 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 10: they have close sources close to him who say that 315 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 10: they've seen him take it at parties. 316 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 7: Wow. 317 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 8: Okay, that's a staggering story, isn't it. 318 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 2: This is Bloomberg Daybreak Europe. 319 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 1: You're a morning brief on the stories making news from 320 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: London to Wall Streets and beyond. 321 00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 3: Look for us on your podcast feed every morning, Apple, Spotify, 322 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 3: and anywhere else you get your podcasts. 323 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: You can also listen live each morning on London Dab Radio, 324 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:09,119 Speaker 1: the Bloomberg Business app, and Bloomberg dot Com. 325 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 3: Our flagship New York station is also available on your 326 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 3: Amazon Alexa devices. 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