1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Now it's time for our daily Bloomberg Law Brief, exploring 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: legal issues in the news. The Bloomberg Law Brief brought 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: to you by American Arbitration Association. Business disputes are inevitable 4 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: resolved faster with the American Arbitration Association, the global leader 5 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: in alternative dispute resolution for over ninety years. More at 6 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:21,799 Speaker 1: a d r dot org. Today, Bloomberg Law host June 7 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: Grasso and Michael Beast discussed the conviction of former Jeffreys 8 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: Bond trader Jesse Litvak, who was found guilty of just 9 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: one of ten counts of fraud. On Friday. They speak 10 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: with Robert Hackett, professor at Cornell University Law School. Bob, 11 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: is this a surprising verdict only one out of ten counts? 12 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 1: I think it's all that surprising. I think what would 13 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 1: have been truly surprising would have been if he had 14 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: been found guilty none of the counts. Um. I think 15 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 1: that the thought was probably along the lines that what 16 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: one conviction or one count is enough. The rest, in 17 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: theory could be considered guilding the lily. They all sort 18 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: of went to the same type of behavior, that is, 19 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: not telling the truth and being fraud on what the 20 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 1: price he paid for bonds was when he was selling 21 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:08,199 Speaker 1: them to other people. So what distinction could the jury 22 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: have drawn here between the count that they convicted him 23 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: of and the nine counts that they acquitted him of. 24 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: It's not altogether clear, but my guess would be that 25 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: the jury was probably focusing, especially on the so called 26 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: materiality of the misrepresentations. UH and materiality is a somewhat 27 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 1: complex and sort of vaguely contoured concept that's used in 28 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: cases like this. It embraces, on the one hand, um, 29 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 1: the sort of rationality of a particular customers allowing the 30 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 1: information that he or she has given to influence his 31 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: or her decision. That's an important part of it. And 32 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: what that means in turn is that there's at least 33 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: some relevance played in cases like this in the form 34 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: of the degree of sophistication of the putative victims or 35 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: the plaintiffs. Right. So another way to put that a 36 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: little bit more concretely would be to say, if I 37 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: lied to, on the one hand, a very naive and 38 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: unsophisticated investor, and then lied, on the other hand to 39 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: a very sophisticated and highly skeptical investor. My lie to 40 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: the first investor would be likely to be found a 41 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: bit more material than with that to the second investor. 42 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: That's Robert Hockett, professor at Cornell University Law School, speaking 43 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 1: with Bloomberg Law host June Grasso and Michael Best. 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