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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: The second hour of Play in Bucks starts right now.

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Speaker 2: We are joined by congress Woman Nancy Nace. Congressman, appreciate

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Speaker 2: you making the time for us.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks for having me on today.

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Speaker 2: Good Man, you got a lot of folks attention with

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Speaker 2: your exchange with George Stephanopoulos from over the weekend. By

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Speaker 2: the way, team, do we have that audio handy? If

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Speaker 2: we do, I just might remind everybody of how it went.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just wondering even what you experienced there.

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Speaker 2: Were you surprised at Stephanopoulos so aggressively ambushing you on

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Speaker 2: this given who he is. I mean, take us into

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Speaker 2: what this was like to be on set and have

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Speaker 2: him come after you in the way that he did

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Speaker 2: and try to shame you, to use your.

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Speaker 3: Word, completely shocked and dismayed. And what made it worse

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Speaker 3: is that I had my fourteen year old daughter with

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Speaker 3: me on set, and so she had to sit through

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Speaker 3: this too, and I had to have a very you know,

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Speaker 3: humbling and awkward conversation with her afterwards to ask her

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Speaker 3: how much would be in her review? Did she watch

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Speaker 3: and hear you know sort of thing. And because when

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Speaker 3: I went into the green room, they had turned the

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Speaker 3: TV off, and so I was assuming they'd turn it

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Speaker 3: off because she was in there her underage years could

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Speaker 3: hear everything. And I will tell you I went in

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Speaker 3: to talk about twenty twenty four. I went in to

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Speaker 3: talk about Joe Biden versus Donald Trump. This is the

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Speaker 3: race that everyone's talking about, and talk about the issues

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Speaker 3: affecting the general election. In no way, shape or formed,

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Speaker 3: is ABC ever talked to me about the topic of rape,

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Speaker 3: or that they would bring up my own rate and

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Speaker 3: throw it back in my face and try to bully

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Speaker 3: me as a rape victim, try to shame me over

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Speaker 3: my support for Donald Trump as a rape victim. It

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Speaker 3: really was outrageous. It was disgusting, and you could even

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Speaker 3: see if you watch the very beginning of the clip,

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Speaker 3: you can see my face like I went, you know,

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Speaker 3: when I gave my speech on the floor of the

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Speaker 3: State House in twenty nineteen talking about my rape for

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Speaker 3: the first time when we were working on exceptions for

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Speaker 3: rape and incests in the fetal heartbeat bill. It's very

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Speaker 3: painful for me to watch that speech. I tear up

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Speaker 3: a little bit it's uncomfortable for me. It feels awkward.

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Speaker 3: I know I gave this speech, and I gave it

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Speaker 3: in public, but it takes a lot of courage, and

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Speaker 3: it still it pains me. It hurts me to watch it.

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Speaker 3: And the fact that they started off with this didn't

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Speaker 3: tell me. It didn't forewarm me to say, hey, are

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Speaker 3: you comfortable with this? Are you okay with it? Because

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Speaker 3: if I were a Democrat, you can be for sure

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Speaker 3: that they would have given you a given you a

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Speaker 3: heads up if you were a Democrat woman that they

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Speaker 3: were going to go there. But because I was Republican,

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Speaker 3: well know, all bets are off. We're going to bully

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Speaker 3: her over this, and by the way, we're going to

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Speaker 3: defame Donald Trump in the process because everything they said

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Speaker 3: about him being convicted of rape was a lie. Also,

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Speaker 3: he's never been convicted of rape, but it was. It

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Speaker 3: was astonishing, it was outrageous. And then you combine with

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Speaker 3: the fact that this guy used to cover for the Clintons,

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Speaker 3: like the like the hypocrisy here is astonishing.

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Speaker 4: That's what I was going to hit you with because

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Speaker 4: I bet if you had known that this was going

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Speaker 4: to be the question that you're asked in real time,

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Speaker 4: you would have done research and you probably would have

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Speaker 4: come back with George Stepanopolos, as we played on the

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Speaker 4: show yesterday, and say, wait a minute. It's one way

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Speaker 4: you're treating me now, But when Bill Clinton was accused

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Speaker 4: of all sorts of sexual improprieties, you're on film threatening

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Speaker 4: the woman who might be willing to tell this story

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Speaker 4: that she'll never work in Democrat politics again, and she

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Speaker 4: needs to think about whether she wants to come clean

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Speaker 4: to say nothing of Joe Biden right now, and the

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Speaker 4: Tara Reid allegations, which are far more significant given that

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Speaker 4: he was Joe Biden her boss, and they're actually evidence

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Speaker 4: back in the nineties of her telling people and everything

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Speaker 4: else associated with it. So to me, Stepanopolis is his

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Speaker 4: questioning was frankly in defensible, but also he is open

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Speaker 4: just unaware of this or what do you think his

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Speaker 3: I don't think he was thinking. And I think that

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Speaker 3: I mean he not only doubled down, he tripled down.

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Speaker 3: I mean he went back to the well five or

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Speaker 3: And the irony here is I was young when all

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Speaker 3: and it was around the time that I was right.

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Speaker 3: That's the irony of this is thirty years ago when

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Speaker 3: I was sixteen or eight by a classmate of mine,

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Speaker 3: And the guy wouldn't even get up from his seat

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Speaker 3: And it was just disgusting. And my whole thing is

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Speaker 3: when the Left tells you who they are, we need

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Speaker 3: to believe them. They don't support women. Grape is bad

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Speaker 3: unless you Republican, and then we're going to bully you.

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Speaker 3: That's what I took away from it. And you know,

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Speaker 3: I've been through a lot of stuff. I've made the

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Speaker 3: news a lot for different reasons, and I have a lot.

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Speaker 3: I have very thick skin, I am very tough, and

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Speaker 3: it was the Citadel, the Military College of South Carolina

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Speaker 3: about was I was leaving the studio with my daughter.

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Speaker 3: That guy would not last thirty seconds at the citadel.

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Speaker 3: That guy doesn't have what it takes. And the fact

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Speaker 3: that he treats women that way, the massagyny using out

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Speaker 3: of him on set, before, during, and after the whole thing,

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Speaker 3: it was just, it was really truly shocking that this

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Speaker 3: is what the left thinks is a good thing, and

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Speaker 3: so just to me, it also says that Joe Biden's

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Speaker 3: numbers are so bad that this is a tactic they're

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Speaker 3: going to take, and it has truly backfired on the

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, it's long been known. We're speaking of

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Speaker 2: Congresswoman Nancy Mace, and the congressman is long and known

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Speaker 2: I think by people paying attention to DC that tiny

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Speaker 2: George is not efficutarly onlnerable guy. But I thought he

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Speaker 2: would be at least a little bit more savvy than

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Speaker 2: to come after the way that he did. I think

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Speaker 2: we all appreciate that you held your ground and refused

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Speaker 2: to let him wheezel out of it after he had

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Speaker 2: and saying, hold on a second, So now we're all

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Speaker 2: supposed to accept that will be in your case, as

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Speaker 2: a member of Congress, or anybody for that matter, in

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Speaker 2: the public eye who's supporting Donald Trump, they can be

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Speaker 2: said to be supporting an accused sexual assault or whatever

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Speaker 2: the terminologies they want to use. But Joe Biden, there's

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Speaker 2: no talk of this at all in the media. Why

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's crazy to me, and we're talking about people

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Speaker 3: that are complete and total hypocrites. Look at the accusations

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Speaker 3: All these people supported the Clintons and the lie, you know,

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Speaker 3: or whatever he was doing. I mean, all this stuff,

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Speaker 3: and it just to me is rape is bad. Unless

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Speaker 3: It's basically the message that they're sending to women, especially

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Speaker 3: And you know, we've warked from a lot of different

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Speaker 3: I'm not just conservatives and Republicans, but I'm hearing from

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Speaker 3: thirty something suburban women, suburban moms who are offended, who

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Speaker 3: maybe don't like me, you know, because I've done our

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Speaker 3: by my names, but they are completely supportive of how

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Speaker 3: I handle the situation with grace, with facts, with truth,

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Speaker 4: Let's play that, by the way, in the event that

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Speaker 4: people have not heard it. I know people are busy,

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Speaker 4: may not listen to on Monday, may have missed it.

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Speaker 4: We're talking to Congress from a Nancy Mayce. Here is

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Speaker 4: cut thirty one. We've got a version, shorter version of

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Speaker 4: what that conversation was like. So people out there listening

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Speaker 4: let's play that.

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Speaker 5: You've endorsed Donald Trump for president. Donald Trump has been

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Speaker 5: found liable for rape by a jury. Donald Trump has

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Speaker 5: been found liable for defaming the victim of that rape

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Speaker 5: by a jury. It's been affirmed by a judge.

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Speaker 6: It is a criminal court case. Number one, number two.

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Speaker 6: I live with shame, and you're asking me a question

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Speaker 6: Egene Carroll's comments when she did get the judgment, joking

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Speaker 5: Women won't come forward because they're defamed by those who

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Speaker 6: Donald, they are judged and their shame, and you're trying

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Speaker 4: I think it's discussed at all.

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Speaker 6: I told my story. It took me twenty five years

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Speaker 6: get judged for it today.

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Speaker 5: Asking you a very simple question and.

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Speaker 4: I answered it for my political choice. Okay, I thought

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Speaker 4: you killed it. As you said, when you started talking

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Speaker 4: I think you're right that in most situations where you're

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Speaker 4: be a little bit more contentious, maybe than a typical

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Speaker 4: may make you very uncomfortable, So I agree with you.

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Speaker 4: I think it's pretty stunning that there was no conversation

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Speaker 4: about that before. I thought you killed it. But I

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Speaker 4: want to circle back on something you said. George Stepanopolis,

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Speaker 4: unlike you planned this question. He knew exactly what was

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Speaker 4: going to say, and he got it wrong. That there

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Speaker 4: was no The jury actually found that Trump did not

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Speaker 4: commit right now. We talked about this on Monday, and

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Speaker 4: I think it's significant sexual assault that can be grabbing

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Speaker 4: someone inappropriately. Right. You absolutely were not only asked an

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Speaker 4: inappropriate question. In my mind, you were asked an inaccurate question,

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Speaker 3: And I corrected him twice about that because Trump was

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Speaker 3: never convicted of rape, not in a civil judgment, not

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Speaker 3: think I think that George Stephanopolis and ABC News have

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Speaker 3: were Donald Trump, well I hope he sues them for

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Speaker 3: that because that's not what happened. And he was entirely inaccurate,

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Speaker 3: and he tripled down. He said it like ten times

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Speaker 4: But I do trust everybody out there. If you're a

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Speaker 2: Yes, they they like you anyway, So I thought that

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Speaker 4: It's gonna be an incredible game. I've got a bunch

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Speaker 4: five in Panama City, Florida, God's Country down here on

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Speaker 4: the Florida Gulf Coast where I am broadcasting all week

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Speaker 4: long and appreciate you guys for listening. Bucks down in Miami.

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Speaker 4: We appreciate the great State of Florida for fighting and

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Speaker 4: battling as so many states refuse to do Buckets. The

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Speaker 4: four year anniversary of Sports basically shutting down all over

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Speaker 4: the country, which was a early sign that Americas was

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Speaker 4: losing its mind and that many places were going to

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Speaker 4: shut down. But I know for you who are now

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Speaker 4: a Florida resident. And for me who came down to

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Speaker 4: Florida at the end of April in twenty twenty and

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Speaker 4: spent a month here with my family. I remember posting

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Speaker 4: a video of Cinco de Mayo twenty twenty when I

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Speaker 4: took my family my kids out to a Mexican restaurant

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Speaker 4: and said, everybody needs to get back to normal. You

447
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Speaker 4: got dragged, if I remember correctly, for saying America needed

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Speaker 4: to be opened by Easter. You're one hundred percent right

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Speaker 4: on that. That was probably the time when everybody decided

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Speaker 4: that you wanted everybody's grandma to die. When I posted

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Speaker 4: that video of Cinco de Mayo of my whole family

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Speaker 4: out in an indoor restaurant eating, you would have thought

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Speaker 4: that I was calling for mass execution of grandma's in America.

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Speaker 4: Based on the way people responded, You and I were right.

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Speaker 4: I think one of the reasons we're doing this show

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Speaker 4: today is because we were right about all of that

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Speaker 4: craziness that was going on. We got a bunch to

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Speaker 4: get to the truck driver testimony. I want to mention

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Speaker 4: Robert her proving that Joe Biden was a liar beyond

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Speaker 4: a shadow of doubt we got a couple of cuts

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Speaker 4: from that. But I wanted to hit this with Kendra,

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Speaker 4: who wrote in Clay, I live in Knoxville. I want

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Speaker 4: an invite to your sec showdown party. We may disagree

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Speaker 4: on the flute, but I had your back on salsa

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Speaker 4: as the superior dip and she said, love the show. Now.

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Speaker 4: Question for you history nerd, history nerd buck, Why is

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Speaker 4: Tennessee called the volunteers? Why is Tennessee the volunteer state?

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Speaker 2: Because the War of eighteen twelve they were asking for

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Speaker 2: people to join up and fight, particularly against the allied

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Speaker 2: tribes called the Red Clubs of Memory Serves who had

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Speaker 2: these Red War Clubs. And Davy Crockett was actually involved

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Speaker 2: in some of those smaller operations or trying to go

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Speaker 2: after them and win.

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Speaker 4: You're winning back some people here, but continue.

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Speaker 2: Andrew Andrew Jackson was a commanding officer of some of

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Speaker 2: those operations as well.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 2: And I think they were allied with the Uh the Chippewa.

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Speaker 2: One point was the Chippewa. Gosh, I gotta remember the

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Speaker 2: names of the different tribes. But Choctaw. There we go,

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Speaker 2: Choctaw Indians and uh, yeah, so that's that's the volunteers,

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Speaker 2: because they volunteered to join up and fight against the

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Speaker 2: British in the War of eighteen twelve.

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Speaker 4: So there you go, all right, So you.

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Speaker 2: People people just always freak out about the burning, you know,

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Speaker 2: and Madison had to flee and Dolly Madison had to

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Speaker 2: run away, and everyone's like, oh my gosh, they burned

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Speaker 2: down the White House and all that stuff. The British

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Speaker 2: were using tribes all along the frontier to go and

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Speaker 2: scalp settlers, and and then of course we worked with

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Speaker 2: some or rather Americans worked with some tribes. But that's

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Speaker 2: where the balls comes from. So all right, So now

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Speaker 2: am I still welcome? I still welcome in whatever city

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Speaker 2: we're gonna You.

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Speaker 4: Want a lot of people back with that knowledge of

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Speaker 4: the volunteer moniker, So yes, that's all good. All right.

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Speaker 4: I want to play right before we get into this,

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Speaker 4: which I thought was a super interesting There's a couple

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Speaker 4: of Robert Herr cuts. Biden's been proven to be a

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Speaker 4: liar here. These are relatively short cuts, but I want

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Speaker 4: to play him to make sure I courage you guys

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Speaker 4: to go listen to the first hour we laid out

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Speaker 4: all of these details. Cut twenty nine and cut thirty two.

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Speaker 4: Let's start with Cut twenty nine. Robert Hurr says his

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Speaker 4: report did not exonerate Joe Biden at all.

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Speaker 7: Listen, So this lengthy, expensive and independent investigation resulted in

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Speaker 7: a complete exoneration of President Joe Biden. For every document

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Speaker 7: you discussed in your report, you found insufficient evidence that

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Speaker 7: the president violated any laws about possession or retention of

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Speaker 7: classified materials. The primary law that you analyze for potential

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Speaker 7: prosecution was part of the Espionage Act eighteen Usc. Seven

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Speaker 7: ninety three E, which criminalizes will for retention or disclosure

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Speaker 7: of national defense information.

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Speaker 8: Is that correct, Congressman, That is one statute that we analyzed.

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Speaker 8: I need to go back and make sure that I

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Speaker 8: take take note of the word that you use, exoneration.

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Speaker 4: That going to continue with my question.

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Speaker 7: I'm going to continue with my questions.

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Speaker 8: I know that's the term I ultimately reached. I know

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Speaker 8: that evidence existed such that the Likeliho, you exonerate a conviction.

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Speaker 9: I know.

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Speaker 7: Has mister hurts my time.

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Speaker 2: You know, when someone's being really childish and you don't

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Speaker 2: want to hear their response.

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Speaker 4: And you go no no, no, no, no no, and you.

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Speaker 2: Put your fingers in your ears. You know what I'm

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Speaker 2: talking about. You just gonna make some noise.

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Speaker 4: And that is what the congresswoman is doing there.

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Speaker 2: She's refusing to let him say anything because she just

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Speaker 2: wanted to put it on the record that he exonerated him.

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Speaker 2: And that is not that is not what he does

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Speaker 2: nor rather that's not his role, nor is it what

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Speaker 2: he did.

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Speaker 4: That's right, And I want to play two more. I

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Speaker 4: said one, but these are really good. This is Jerry Nadler,

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Speaker 4: who is to me not a particularly smart man. But

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Speaker 4: when you're asking questions, remember he's a Democrat from New York.

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Speaker 4: He's trying to get Robert hur to admit that what

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Speaker 4: Joe Biden did wasn't very bad. Do you have any

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Speaker 4: reason to believe President Biden lied to you? One of

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Speaker 4: the cardinal rules of every lawyer is don't ask questions

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Speaker 4: you don't know the answer to. Again, listen to this.

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Speaker 2: At any point in your investigation, you do you have

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Speaker 2: any reason to believe that President Biden lied to you?

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Speaker 8: I do address in my report one response. The President

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Speaker 8: gave a question that we opposed to him that we

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Speaker 8: deemed to be not credible.

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Speaker 4: So yes, there is evidence that that potentially a lie.

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Speaker 4: During that interview happened. Also Jim Jordan, our friend congressman

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Speaker 4: from Ohio. Buck asked whether the White House tried to

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Speaker 4: get this report changed before it was released to the public.

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Speaker 4: Listen to this.

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Speaker 10: Did the White House get the report before the report

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Speaker 10: was made public?

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Speaker 8: We did provide a draft of the report to the

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Speaker 8: White House Council's Office and members of the President's Personal

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Speaker 8: Council team for their review.

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Speaker 10: I understand, and did the White House then once they

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Speaker 10: got the report before it went public? Did the White

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Speaker 10: House try to weigh in with your investigation on elements of.

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Speaker 4: That report and frankly get the report changed.

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Speaker 8: They did request certain edits and changes to the draft report.

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Speaker 4: So they got an early review. They asked that edits

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Speaker 4: be made that they did not like from the report.

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Speaker 4: I mean, to me, Buck, Biden is dead to rights.

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Speaker 4: And if I were in the Republican Congress now, what

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Speaker 4: I would be focused on is if Biden loses in

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty four. There is now ample evidence of him

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Speaker 4: retaining classified documents. You mentioned that Techsarah Kid, and I

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Speaker 4: say kid because he's like nineteen or twenty or whatever.

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Speaker 4: The heck he was. He got sixteen years. There are

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Speaker 4: seven different for classified documents. There are seven different locations

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Speaker 4: where Joe Biden had classified documents. If you Buck, you

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Speaker 4: were in CIA, you had clearance. If it had been

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Speaker 4: discovered that you had classified documents in seven different locations,

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Speaker 4: what would have happened to you? Fired?

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Speaker 2: Clearance, revoked and likely had to go into negotiations with

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Speaker 2: federal prosecutors about pleading to something to try to avoid

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Speaker 2: or at least spend an absolute bare minimum of time

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Speaker 2: in prison. I think General Petraeus, who pleaded guilty to

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Speaker 2: a felony, I think that he had like a they

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Speaker 2: were thinking about a six month sentence or something like

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Speaker 2: that for him, and then it was a suspended sentence.

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Speaker 2: But that's what would happen. What would happen is you

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Speaker 2: would end up never having a clearance again, your career

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Speaker 2: would be over, and you'd be hoping to avoid spending

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Speaker 2: more than a couple of years in prison. That's that

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Speaker 2: would to me, that's what would have happened.

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Speaker 4: And that's not just you, that's like many thousands of

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Speaker 4: people with security clearance all over the United States government.

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Speaker 4: If that happened, Yeah, I mean hundreds of thousands, I

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Speaker 4: mean a huge number of people when you add in

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Speaker 4: the military and the rest of it have security clearance.

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Speaker 4: So for the rest of us, it would have been extremely,

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Speaker 4: extremely serious consequences. And let's understand Biden was doing this

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Speaker 4: when he was a senator, and he was doing this

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Speaker 4: the names a vice president. He does not have any

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Speaker 4: presidential prerogative correct with regard to those documents when he

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Speaker 4: took them and when they were outside of those official channels.

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Speaker 4: So he's just he's like everybody. He's supposed to be

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Speaker 4: subject to the rules like everybody else. Donald Trump has

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Speaker 4: a different defense, as in, if I'm the president and

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Speaker 4: I say I'm taking these home while I'm president, guess

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Speaker 4: what I'm taking them home. And this is important too

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Speaker 4: that I think needs to be slammed home and made

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Speaker 4: a big deal of. You and I have been to

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Speaker 4: mar A Lago several times. When we walk into mar

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Speaker 4: A Lago and we have interviewed the President of the

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Speaker 4: United States there, as many of you have listened to us.

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Speaker 4: They wand us, they do background checks on us. You

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Speaker 4: can't just roll up Tomorrow Lago and start walking around

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Speaker 4: anywhere in that property. You want to go. It's behind

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Speaker 4: secret Service protection. Everywhere that Joe Biden the private documents

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Speaker 4: were found was wide open. He had them in the

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Speaker 4: garage by his corvette. He had a Kokehead son who

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Speaker 4: had access to all this stuff, tons of other different

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Speaker 4: employees at Mara a Lago. You're behind a security detail.

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Speaker 4: It's not. And again you and I can speak to

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Speaker 4: this directly ourselves. You can't just wander freely around the

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Speaker 4: Mara a Lago property. You have to be cleared, You

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Speaker 4: have to be there. They check to see, as they should,

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Speaker 4: whether you have weapons, you're wanded, They do a background

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Speaker 4: check on you. None of that applies to Biden. If

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Speaker 4: you were analyzing, leave aside the presidential immunity claim, if

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Speaker 4: you were analyzing the recklessness with which these individuals behaved,

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Speaker 4: Biden's behavior in having classified documents seven different places without

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Speaker 4: security protection is far more reckless than in anything Trump did,

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Speaker 4: because again, this was behind security, secret Service. They found

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Speaker 4: these places all inside of a secure location, that is

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Speaker 4: where the president of the United States, former president is

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Speaker 4: being kept safe. This is very different, and frankly, I

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Speaker 4: don't understand how they can argue that Biden isn't far

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Speaker 4: worse in his behavior than everything with Trump, even leaving

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Speaker 4: aside the presidential immunity claim.

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Speaker 2: And this is I think the point in the conversation

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Speaker 2: where I could interject. I can go full e or

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Speaker 2: here and tell you none of this is going to

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Speaker 2: blow back on Biden. It will not matter. His voters

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Speaker 2: will not care, the system will not punish him. His

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Speaker 2: son is going to be fully pardoned by Joe Biden.

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Speaker 4: One way. Such a happy, happy show so far.

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Speaker 2: And there having a lot of far, but I'm going

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Speaker 2: to tell you there will be no justice on any

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Speaker 2: of this, and they will continue with the prosecution of

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump, including for the class you know, the classified

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Speaker 2: issues at mar A Lago, despite the fact that they've

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Speaker 2: let Joe Biden get away with it. I mean, the

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Speaker 2: double standard here is very very obvious, and they're going

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Speaker 2: to do it because they think they can and they

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Speaker 2: think they'll get away with it. And unfortunately, I don't

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Speaker 2: see unless Trump wins and decides that there is going

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Speaker 2: to be there will be consequences for this, and I'm

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Speaker 2: not even sure what.

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Speaker 4: Those would be.

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Speaker 2: They're probably right because nothing here. The Democrats are dug in.

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Speaker 2: They say there's nothing wrong. I mean, what are the

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Speaker 2: Democrats even really arguing that he's not senile, that's absurd,

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Speaker 2: that he didn't take the documents we know he did,

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Speaker 2: that he's not.

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Speaker 4: Supposed to do this, or that he is supposed to

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Speaker 4: do this, we know he's not.

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Speaker 2: They really don't have a position other than Donald Trump bad,

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump bad. That's all they can say.

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Speaker 4: No, I think you're a hundred percent right, And it's

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Speaker 4: why I think the pushback on the argument they're trying

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Speaker 4: to make is, oh, he was exonerated. He did absolutely

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Speaker 4: nothing wrong. Right, they're trying to use that word exonerated

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Speaker 4: because blaytant liede. What the report found was that he's senile,

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Speaker 4: so we shouldn't lock him up because he doesn't know

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Speaker 4: any better. And the problem with that is should you

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Speaker 4: give that guy four more years as president? Yeah? The

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Speaker 4: problem is again they're really he painted him into a corner.

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Speaker 4: Either you argue he's not seenile, which would mean he

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Speaker 4: should be charged with a crime, or you argue he

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Speaker 4: So either way, he's actually getting the beneficial treatment here.

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Speaker 4: We'll come back. We're still gonna hit the Tucker Cuomo discussion,

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Speaker 1: The Torch of Truth past and still lit every day,

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Speaker 1: the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 4: But you've talked about for a while you worked at CNN.

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Speaker 4: Obviously I still work at Fox, Fox News and Fox Sports.

702
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 4: About the fact that there's almost no true discussion anymore.

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00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 4: And Tucker Carl's and back in the day crossfire existed

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Speaker 4: on CNN. You had a variety of perspectives. Even back

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Speaker 4: in the day on Fox News, people have forgotten about it.

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Speaker 4: There was Hannity and Colmes, where Colmes was like the

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Speaker 4: liberal guy who would kind of get slapped around a

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Speaker 4: little bit. But the idea was you have a divergent opinion.

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Speaker 4: One guy or one gal argues one thing, the other

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Speaker 4: side argues the other, and everybody can kind of look

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Speaker 4: at their respective arguments and have to make them in

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Speaker 4: an intelligent way. Now, MSNBC would not have you on,

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Speaker 4: they wouldn't have me on, They wouldn't even think of it.

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Speaker 4: I'm banned at CNN. You walked away from CNN because

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Speaker 4: they basically stopped putting anybody who was anything other than

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Speaker 4: a shill for the left on air. So that's why

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Speaker 4: I was intrigued when I saw this conversation that Tucker

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Speaker 4: Carlson had with Chris Cuomo. And I know you watch

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Speaker 4: some of it as well.

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Speaker 2: I'm a little jealous that you got a full on

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Speaker 2: ban from CNN, because, as I've said, it's like being

722
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Speaker 2: banned from North Korea or being banned from Iran, like

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Speaker 2: you're proud of you know what I mean. That's a

724
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Speaker 2: great I just know I'm not welcome, but I'm not

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Speaker 2: officially banned.

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Speaker 4: They will not allow me to appear on CNN. I

727
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 4: have been given the band hammer. It would be a

728
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Speaker 4: good question how many people are actually banned from CNN.

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Speaker 4: And I guarantee you, to my knowledge, I'm banned at

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Speaker 4: ESPN too. They will not allow me to be on air.

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Speaker 4: I don't know that there's anyone in America who is

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Speaker 4: banned at both CNN and ESPN other than me. But

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Speaker 4: I watched this interview last night, and I'm embarrassed to

734
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Speaker 4: say I don't know about you. Sometimes I get in

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Speaker 4: bed and I start to scroll through I'm like, okay,

736
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Speaker 4: let me check and see right before I go to sleep,

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Speaker 4: what's the news so I can prepare and then in

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Speaker 4: the morning I'll wake up and check and see what change.

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Speaker 4: But this is probably after midnight. I get in bed

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Speaker 4: and I'm scrolling through and I'm like, I'm gonna watch

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Speaker 4: like five minutes of this of this Tucker in Chris

742
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Speaker 4: Cuomo interview Buck. It's one thirty in the morning, and

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Speaker 4: I look down and I've been watching this thing on

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Speaker 4: my phone for an hour and a half. I really

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Speaker 4: found it very captivating interesting. I've been no fans, certainly

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Speaker 4: of Chris Cuomo. His COVID coverage really drove me crazy.

747
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Speaker 4: But I'll be honest with you, hearing Tucker and Chris

748
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Speaker 4: Cuomo talk together, I already like Tucker. You do too.

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Speaker 4: We know him. He's a good dude. I really kind

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Speaker 4: of liked Chris Cuomo too, and I thought the conversation

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Speaker 4: between the two of them was very interesting and positive

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Speaker 4: for both of them. Interesting.

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Speaker 2: Also, you know, I know you had your famous on

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Speaker 2: screen moment with with Brooke Baldwin. There's your whom I

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Speaker 2: know or used to know pretty well. There's what you

756
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 2: get from CNN personalities on the air, and then there's

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Speaker 2: what you get from some of these people off the air,

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Speaker 2: and they are not the same thing, like you know

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Speaker 2: anyone and some of you you know, have met me

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Speaker 2: in person, different places, and we do live events and

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Speaker 2: different things and.

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Speaker 4: Far cheaper than two hundred and fifty K.

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Speaker 2: By the way, just to be clear, we're just throwing

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Speaker 2: that out there as you know, see if anybody would

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Speaker 2: bite on that one. But no, but when we meet

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Speaker 2: you at live events, we're the same all the time.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we always joke around that if somebody heard us.

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Speaker 2: One thing that's good about being yourself on the air

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Speaker 2: is that if anybody heard, like I still call them

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Speaker 2: commies when I'm making tea and hanging out with my wife,

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Speaker 2: like nothing changes, Like this is same thing with you,

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Speaker 2: Like we're we're the same guys all the time. CNN people,

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Speaker 2: especially when they get to a higher level, they begin

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Speaker 2: to do what the organization wants them to do at

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Speaker 2: the expense of what they really think and who they

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Speaker 2: really are as people. It's very seductive. Do you want

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Speaker 2: to be famous, Do you want to make five maybe

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Speaker 2: ten million dollars a year, or you know, do you

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Speaker 2: want to be a kind of mid level CNN person

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Speaker 2: making you know, a few hundred grand, and you could

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Speaker 2: get your contract discontinued at any moment, right, very seductive

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Speaker 2: for them. So I think Chris Cuomo got caught up

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Speaker 2: in that to some degree because I know people who

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Speaker 2: know him and they say he's actually a pretty nice

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Speaker 2: guy and and reasonable guy in person.

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Speaker 4: You told me, and I've still never met her. That

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Speaker 4: Brooke Baldwin who claimed that she was offended when I

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Speaker 4: said the Boobs in first Amendment thing on CNN, that

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Speaker 4: if we were not on air, that she's actually a

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Speaker 4: very likeable person and that if we had a beer,

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Speaker 4: for instance, we would get along.

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Speaker 2: If she If you had said that on like the

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Speaker 2: Brooke Baldwin podcast, or on the or on like the

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Speaker 2: A OutKick Show, she would have left. Yes, but you

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Speaker 2: knew that Jeff Zucker was watching, and CNN is very serious,

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Speaker 2: and you know this is the expectation you have from

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Speaker 2: the people writing. We should invite her to come on

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Speaker 2: the show, we should reach out, we should see talk

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Speaker 2: to you came on.

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Speaker 4: She was still seven years later.

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Speaker 2: Raged at your first amendment in the Boobs commentary.

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Speaker 4: Clay, I don't think she would do well seven years later.

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Speaker 4: She's not over it. Then then I would never wrong.

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Speaker 4: Did you did you see we made a joke about this,

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Speaker 4: and we'll get to the did you see that? Uh,

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Speaker 4: which I didn't even know still existed. Maybe we'll do

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Speaker 4: this at the end. But they're offended by the power

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Speaker 4: of Sydney Sweeney's boobs, since we're talking about if we

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Speaker 4: don't get back to you start talking boobs, we're never

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Speaker 4: gonna get Let's play this. Let's play this, guys. We

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Speaker 4: got a couple of clips. This is Tucker and Cuomo,

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Speaker 4: and I would encourage you guys to go listen to it.

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Speaker 4: But they're having a conversation. Chris Cuomo is he looks

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Speaker 4: like a WWE wrestler. I mean he has like he

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Speaker 4: is monstrous into.

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Speaker 2: The If he has a stack, I kind of want

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Speaker 2: to know what's in his stack.

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Speaker 4: I'm just throwing it up whatever he's taken. His biceps

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Speaker 4: look like hul Kogan's biceps. But they're talking about, uh,

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Speaker 4: the way they treat men and women, and Tucker makes

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Speaker 4: the case he treats women differently because he's a man.

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Speaker 4: Listen to this. I don't make a gender distinction. Really,

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Speaker 4: I know too many women who can kick my ass.

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Speaker 9: You know what I mean, Like, I don't think that's true.

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Speaker 9: I do name one who could kick your ass. So

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Speaker 9: I'm six one or he was before I head back surgery.

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Speaker 10: He's gonna say, you know, we're trying to be trying

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Speaker 10: to be real with each other here. You know what

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Speaker 10: I mean.

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Speaker 4: You're a lot taller than I am.

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Speaker 9: Okay, I'm just saying, and you're famously a bodybuilder. There's

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Speaker 9: not one woman in America can kick your rest.

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Speaker 4: It's just not true. And you know it's not true.

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Speaker 4: And you have to say, you went to the uf

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Speaker 4: you went to the UFC fight. You think you could

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Speaker 4: get in there with the women come out?

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Speaker 9: No, I'm saying you specifically.

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Speaker 2: Okay, First of all, that's that was really interesting because

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Speaker 2: there I think, first of all, Tucker corners, and we'll

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Speaker 2: get do you want to We'll get to the other clip,

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Speaker 2: and let's.

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Speaker 4: Do you want to play the other one? Okay, when

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Speaker 4: you analyze this, let's what do you want to play

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Speaker 4: the other one? Right now? Let's play the other one

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Speaker 4: as well, and then we'll break it. There's the second

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Speaker 4: part of that.

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Speaker 9: If you got into an argument, and I know you

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Speaker 9: well enough to know if you're standing in a restaurant

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Speaker 9: someone's like you, Chris, you punch them out.

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Speaker 4: If a woman got.

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Speaker 9: Way up in your face, I would know, exactly, would exactly.

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Speaker 9: So it is a bigger sin, not just against her,

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Speaker 9: but against yourself and your dignity and your responsibility as

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Speaker 9: a man.

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Speaker 4: Your job is to protect one. I'll give you the Jerry.

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Speaker 4: I don't see it exactly the same way. You don't

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Speaker 4: want to admit it. You're telling me you know that's

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Speaker 4: not true. So so what Tucker does is he gets him.

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Speaker 2: He says, well, hold on, would you ever hit a woman,

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Speaker 2: even if she was mouthing off to you? In Paul,

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Speaker 2: under any circumstances? Chris Cromo gives the right answer, which

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Speaker 2: is no, there's no unless you are in physical defense

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Speaker 2: of your you know, of your life, basically you as

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Speaker 2: a man. No, you never lay a hand on a

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Speaker 2: woman under any circumstances. This again, Chris Cuomo is kind

866
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 2: of he's kind of.

867
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Speaker 4: A guy's guy.

868
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 2: I think, I think respectfully he's he's that's one of

869
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,280
Speaker 2: the areas where you could see out of eye with him.

870
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 2: But the propaganda is so deep and so deeply ingrained

871
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 2: that he would say what he knows he has to say,

872
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,800
Speaker 2: because this is always in the early days one of

873
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 2: the things that say, should men and women be able

874
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 2: to box against each other?

875
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 4: No, of course not.

876
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 2: I remember Clay what I was doing to show years ago.

877
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 2: I was just talking about like women in uh in UFC.

878
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 2: And I was like, look, like, you know, anyway, it

879
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 2: doesn't matter how we get. But I was like I

880
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 2: would throw some of these ladies around and there were

881
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 2: people were flipping out of me either, like that's not true.

882
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 2: I was like, at the time I weighed like two

883
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 2: hundred and ten pounds. These women are one hundred and

884
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 2: twenty pounds, and they're women. There's a huge difference in

885
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 2: size and strength men and women. He has to know that,

886
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 2: but I think his brain has been it has seeped

887
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:22,839
Speaker 2: through with the propaganda, so he says, there are women

888
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:23,760
Speaker 2: who could kick my ass.

889
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 4: Chris gwom was like six three two forty. There are

890
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 4: no women who can kick his ass. It was an

891
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 4: insane thing to say. Yeah, the only thing, yes, I agree,

892
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:36,919
Speaker 4: and unless there's some you know, expert person who could

893
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:38,879
Speaker 4: somehow get him on the ground and put him into

894
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 4: a choke hold. But I think he could just stand

895
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 4: up and throw.

896
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 2: Wouldn't even have the upper body pounds m right, wouldn't

897
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 2: have the upper body strength to do it. I mean,

898
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 2: I remember Clay, I was you know, you said you

899
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 2: sud bench a pretty good amount. I was like a

900
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 2: you know, a desk jockey kind of a guy. And

901
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 2: I was working out at a a This is like

902
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,439
Speaker 2: a decade ago, and there were a couple of women

903
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 2: who were true CrossFit competitors, amazing shape, and then I

904
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 2: had a belly.

905
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 4: Then I got a belly.

906
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 2: Now, like I have no allusions about myself, I get

907
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 2: bench more than both of them. Of course I ken

908
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 2: I'm a guy. It wasn't like that's not even like

909
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 2: you're just saying you're a guy. At that point. You're

910
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 2: not even saying you're strong, right, because you're larger, heavier

911
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 2: and everyone. So why would he say something. He has

912
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 2: to know that as a Jim bro he has to

913
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 2: know he's lying.

914
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 4: That's why I give a pass to some people who

915
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 4: you remember when it turned into controversy when John McEnroe

916
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 4: said Serena Williams would be like the seven hundredth best man,

917
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 4: and the girl who was interviewing him for CNN was

918
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 4: like why would you say that she's not the best

919
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 4: in the world. And he was like, well, she'd be

920
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,760
Speaker 4: like the seven hundredth best man. That was incredibly generous

921
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 4: to Serena Williams. Most Serena Williams couldn't make and she's

922
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 4: the best female tennis player up there with stephie Groth

923
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 4: of all time. She could not She could not make

924
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 4: a decent men's college team, and most of those men's

925
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 4: college tennis players have no chance to ever be male professionals.

926
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 4: She would not win a maybe not a point.

927
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:05,919
Speaker 2: Like if you told me a good D one male

928
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 2: tennis player would beat any female tennis player in the

929
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 2: world most of the time. Now you have to be

930
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 2: a good you'd have to be a high level D

931
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 2: one player, like I don't know, maybe Stanford or one

932
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 2: of those schools that has really good tennis, but they

933
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 2: would beat the best females in the world in tennis, certainly,

934
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 2: the best and the lowest pros in the world certainly would.

935
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 2: I talked to a bunch of men's tennis pros after that,

936
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 2: because we got a bunch of men's tennis pros that

937
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:29,280
Speaker 2: love this show.

938
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 4: We thank them for listening, and uh, they said she

939
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 4: wouldn't be one of the ten thousand best men's players Serena. So,

940
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 4: but that woman who asked that question isn't a sports person,

941
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:42,839
Speaker 4: so she's clueless. To your point, Cuomo seems like he's

942
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 4: a guys guy like sports. He has to know that

943
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,919
Speaker 4: this is all bs, like this whole idea. I love

944
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 4: Caitlin Clark. She's a lot of fun to watch. She

945
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:56,320
Speaker 4: couldn't start on a good men's high school basketball team.

946
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 4: She couldn't like a really good well maybe you might be.

947
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 4: I'm i throw a flag on this college. Yes, high school.

948
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 4: She could start on one of the twenty or thirty

949
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 4: best men's high school teams in the country. She's a

950
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:11,839
Speaker 4: great women's player. I'm not taking anything away from her

951
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 4: because biology is real.

952
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 2: Remember when I put on Wait Wait, I have a

953
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 2: challenge for you. You got a challenge for this. Yes, we

954
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 2: gotta extend the show today of this whatever. Have you

955
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 2: ever met in person, in person as an adult, a

956
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 2: woman that you thought could kick your ass in an

957
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:29,359
Speaker 2: all out fight.

958
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 4: I met Ronda Rousey, and I was a long past

959
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 4: and I'm trying to think. I met Ronda Rousey once

960
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 4: and I asked her to put me in an arm bar.

961
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 4: This is one hundred percent true. In the Fox Sports

962
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 4: green room when Ronda Rowsey was the absolute apex of

963
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 4: her UFC fighting right, she was the women's like UFC champion.

964
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:55,320
Speaker 4: I said, put me in an arm bar. Don't break

965
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 4: my arm, but I just want to see if I

966
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 4: can get I was in a suit in the Fox

967
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 4: Sports green room. I said, Horonda, put me in and

968
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 4: she had no idea who I was. Put me in

969
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 4: an arm bar. I just want to see what it

970
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 4: feels like. I think at her apex, Ronda Rousey would

971
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 4: have kicked my ass. I think a woman that I've

972
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 4: ever met, which she was like one or one fifty

973
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 4: and I'm one eighty, so we're okay. That's a little tough.

974
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 4: She's been trained to choke people out. I've never been

975
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 4: trained in any grappling. I don't know like any you know,

976
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 4: particular fighting. She spent her whole life doing it. I

977
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 4: think she's the only woman that I've met in person

978
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 4: that I think could kick my ass. Yeah, I've never

979
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 4: met her. So the answer, have you met a woman

980
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 4: who's in person that you thought could kick your ass?

981
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,799
Speaker 2: No chance, My little my little brother, and I we did.

982
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:47,359
Speaker 2: We did a martial arts class together at one point, kravmcguy,

983
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 2: you know, the is Raeli martial arts and one of

984
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 2: the instructors was a woman who weighed like one hundred

985
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 2: and ten pounds. And to this day he still irks

986
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 2: me by saying that she could kick my ass. And

987
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 2: I'm like, absolutely not, absolutely, there is a big deal. Yes, yes,

988
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:03,240
Speaker 2: is she I am twice her size. She has no chance,

989
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 2: but he always says she'd get like a throat shot anyway.

990
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 4: Class. That's what I think. It's all of these like

991
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 4: Brazilian jiu jitsu people, like they get your pinky in

992
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 4: a hold and they put you to sleep. I don't

993
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 4: know how it works. She has been trained. I think

994
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 4: she would kick my ass. Ronda Rowsey only woman I've

995
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:22,319
Speaker 4: ever met that I thought could kick my ass. Well,

996
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 4: there you go. I think Britney Griner could kick my ass.

997
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:26,439
Speaker 4: She's like six foot nine.

998
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 2: Well he's like, you just you just gotta you just

999
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,240
Speaker 2: gotta go go for the legs. You gotta sweep the legs.

1000
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 4: But I don't think either one of them could beat

1001
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,760
Speaker 4: Chris Cuomo's and he's two forty to forty and.

1002
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 2: He looks like he probably I can look at him

1003
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 2: and tell you not. You know, I live in Miami,

1004
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 2: so I picked this up through osmosis. I'm not like

1005
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 2: a real gimbro. Anyone who sees me he knows that.

1006
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 2: But uh, he probably benches three to three hundred and

1007
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:50,319
Speaker 2: fifty pounds. I would guess, just based on his side.

1008
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,439
Speaker 2: I bet he could bench press three hundred plus. There's

1009
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 2: no woman like on the planet who can do that.

1010
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 2: And I know it's not all about just brute strength,

1011
00:49:56,480 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 2: but it's also about you know, bone density, weight, fast twitch, muscle.

1012
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 2: There's just no So his idea that there are women

1013
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:05,399
Speaker 2: who could kick his ass. Why First of all, why

1014
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 2: would he say that. That's such a like fake bro

1015
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:09,399
Speaker 2: thing to say, like, oh, I know there are girls

1016
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:10,240
Speaker 2: who can kick my ass.

1017
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 4: No, you don't. Why say it. He would never admit

1018
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 4: some guy could kick his ass, maybe like you know,

1019
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,799
Speaker 4: Mike Tyson and his heyday or something, But he would

1020
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,800
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