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Speaker 2: To this show.

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Speaker 1: I'm Luke Thomas.

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Speaker 1: This this Morning Combat.

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Speaker 2: This got weird. Hey, it's Morning Combat. We've got two

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Speaker 2: up for the new year. Welcome on in. Hey, you're

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Speaker 2: watching this on December twenty seventh, two thousand and twenty three.

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Speaker 2: I will not tell you though, when we recorded this,

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Speaker 2: but we got fantastic predictions. My name is Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 2: That's India's finest. Luke Thomas kind of right. I mean, look,

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Speaker 2: it's not like I called you an Indian like I

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Speaker 2: did on the last show that never aired. But Luke,

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you this. We are Morning Combat. We are awesome.

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Speaker 2: And Mikey Mormal has convinced me that we did this

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Speaker 2: last year. I don't remember that, but I'm still willing

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Speaker 1: Okay, Actually, one of the people really love the episode

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Speaker 1: last year. Actually, you can go back and check that

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Speaker 1: out some of us. I mean, let's be honest, our

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Speaker 1: In fact, we're doing a divisional piece here, right, We're going,

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Speaker 1: you know, here's our predictions for all these different divisions. BC.

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Speaker 2: identify our fighters to watch. And you know, Luke, what

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Speaker 2: The whole point is we got to get these guys

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Speaker 1: Ready for this one? I don't think John Jones versus

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Speaker 2: I think Tom Asmall is gonna close out next year

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Speaker 2: And the reason is this, Not only is John Jones

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Speaker 2: What was it thirty five seconds, fifty five seconds against

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree with that, I would. I would.

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Speaker 1: That's where my money is as well. My money is

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Speaker 1: on Big Old Tom carrying the belt.

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Speaker 2: Big Old Tom. Wow. Good we have a we have

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Speaker 2: a local Hartford, Connecticut area goldsmith called good Old Tom. Luke,

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Speaker 2: he'll melt it down and pay you some shekels. You know.

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Speaker 2: Let's get Craig Jones in here to break it down, Luke,

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Speaker 2: I want to identify a fighter to watch at heavyweight

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Speaker 2: the Deem nem Cough at heavyweight? Oh, the military light

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Speaker 2: Like Luke, so Pell champions are probably gonna fight Bellator

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Speaker 2: should he want to. And oh, by the way, Luke,

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Speaker 2: realize Ifadem Memcoff's going to be on that short list

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Speaker 2: of which heavyweights would you actually want to see against

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Speaker 2: Anghanu who is on that collective roster, I think he's

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Speaker 2: across that promotion.

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Speaker 1: All right, very good? Yeah, my fighter to watch. I mean, listen,

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Speaker 1: the answer is obviously Francis, Tom Aspinall and John Jones, Right,

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Speaker 2: All Right, Luca, division that, at least for UFC circumstances,

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Speaker 2: this division's wide open as long as Jamal Hill either

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Speaker 1: Very good. Yeah, that's a good one to watch. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, Here we go to the middleweight division.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, absolutely, Jam absolutely, Luke, I don't know, we're back.

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Speaker 1: I think we're headed for that. I think we're headed

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Speaker 1: He seems like like Sean's gonna give him a tough fight,

428
00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,520
Speaker 1: but the things he's saying about fighting at his pace

429
00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:51,760
Speaker 1: not Sean's bringing a little bit of physicality to it,

430
00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,560
Speaker 1: taking a little bit more risk. It's like, dude, you

431
00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:56,600
Speaker 1: got to learn the lesson. And I hate to say

432
00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:58,320
Speaker 1: this because you guys know I love Izzy, but like

433
00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:00,800
Speaker 1: that was not the fight to like that was the

434
00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,960
Speaker 1: wrong You can go back and see here's what doesn't work.

435
00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:06,560
Speaker 1: If you do it it this way, it doesn't work.

436
00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,680
Speaker 1: And I think he's gonna do the opposite. It's gonna

437
00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:11,719
Speaker 1: be a tough fight for Sean, but I think ultimately

438
00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,479
Speaker 1: DDP is gonna get his hand raised. Hamsat's gonna get

439
00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:15,920
Speaker 1: pushed to the front of the line again. They don't

440
00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:17,720
Speaker 1: have to do the pay per view in the United States.

441
00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,720
Speaker 1: And dude, if you actually think about what could get

442
00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:24,880
Speaker 1: maximum crazy, it's actually not Sean Strickland and Hamza Shimaiev

443
00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,040
Speaker 1: because they used to train together. Shawn's got inherently more

444
00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:31,280
Speaker 1: defensive style. Dude, DDP does not. He does not. He

445
00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:34,399
Speaker 1: has a very offensive style. He's a very physical, in

446
00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,280
Speaker 1: your face style. Well, gee, you know who else has

447
00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:39,199
Speaker 1: one of those. It's Hamsad. I think he's gonna get

448
00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:41,840
Speaker 1: fast forwarded. People are gonna want to make an action fight.

449
00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,080
Speaker 1: And if you really think about that and you want

450
00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:45,720
Speaker 1: to see Hamzak get tested, I mean, let's see if

451
00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,280
Speaker 1: he can get past Sean Strickland first, Okay, but if

452
00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:49,600
Speaker 1: he gets past him in the way that I think

453
00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:53,880
Speaker 1: he might do, that fight would be fucking July fourth.

454
00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,040
Speaker 1: I don't care what day they actually put it on.

455
00:20:56,320 --> 00:21:01,800
Speaker 1: Cub Boom to trains colliding on that one. I really

456
00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:03,639
Speaker 1: I feel like we might end up with that in

457
00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:04,720
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four for sure.

458
00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:06,960
Speaker 2: Wow. I haven't heard you talking that excited about trained

459
00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,560
Speaker 2: since the Marines. Wow.

460
00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:14,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, like Art and LoVa what do you say, Chow chow? Motherfucker?

461
00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:15,480
Speaker 1: Right literally, motherfucker.

462
00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,800
Speaker 2: You know, my sort of bold prediction for the new

463
00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:22,840
Speaker 2: year incorporates a little bit of what you're talking about. Look,

464
00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:27,160
Speaker 2: recent years, lightweight was the deepest and best division. Men's

465
00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,639
Speaker 2: banham weight caught up and passed it. I think we

466
00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:31,840
Speaker 2: got to give a lot of credit for women's flyweight

467
00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:33,760
Speaker 2: over this past year for coming out of nowhere and

468
00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:37,280
Speaker 2: being deep and fun. But Luke this middleweight division. My

469
00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,840
Speaker 2: prediction is that in twenty twenty four it's going to

470
00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,640
Speaker 2: be the bet the most exciting division at the top

471
00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:47,560
Speaker 2: end in UFC. And what makes that supported and makes

472
00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,879
Speaker 2: it kind of true is this, we don't even know

473
00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,159
Speaker 2: Sean Strickland's going to hold onto the title in the

474
00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,440
Speaker 2: next three months. Yet right now he might be the

475
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:58,480
Speaker 2: biggest fan favorite of the group, arguably for what he's

476
00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,720
Speaker 2: done to his brand since win and stealing some of

477
00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,400
Speaker 2: in my opinion, Colby's thunder and gaining that fan base.

478
00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 2: But yet Ada Sonya can come back and reclaim the belt,

479
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,320
Speaker 2: Whittaker could come back and make a run. We've got

480
00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,720
Speaker 2: guys who right now are ready to take over, like

481
00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:16,800
Speaker 2: driccis Duplasi. You have guys like Hamza and bo Nicol

482
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:20,000
Speaker 2: who have next. You've got hammers on the rise, like

483
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 2: a Roman Delidze who's trying to break out of that

484
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,320
Speaker 2: sort of fight night main event lane, and you've got

485
00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,800
Speaker 2: enough lingering veterans that can still bring it and still

486
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:32,159
Speaker 2: make tough matchups that here's what I'm saying, Luke Ddp

487
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,439
Speaker 2: versus Strickland is going to get a lot of our attention.

488
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 2: The winner, if they end up facing Audasanya, is going

489
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,119
Speaker 2: to get a lot of our attention. Homs out against

490
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,359
Speaker 2: anyone in the big fight for the title or a

491
00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,720
Speaker 2: number one contender is going to get our attention. And

492
00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:47,760
Speaker 2: if we can even make the matchup that you just

493
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,639
Speaker 2: threw out there, then I think we're talking about guaranteed

494
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 2: action and fireworks. We're talking about the potential of a

495
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,960
Speaker 2: hot potato belt, but it's one that we're not sure.

496
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:57,520
Speaker 2: Is it going to go back on the old guard?

497
00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:59,680
Speaker 2: Is it going to fall on the waist of a riser.

498
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:01,720
Speaker 2: I mean, look, there are rumors that Bonnicol could be

499
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 2: kicking off UFC three hundred in the first fight. Yet

500
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 2: a year from now, when we close this year, he

501
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,359
Speaker 2: could have three fights and be on the verge of

502
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 2: a title for all we know, you just don't know

503
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,119
Speaker 2: what's gonna happen. But if you basically say, hey, here

504
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 2: are the five or six biggest fights you'll see in

505
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 2: the division this year, I think we're gonna be able

506
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 2: to put these up against every other division and compare,

507
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 2: and I think middleweight's gonna shock a lot of people.

508
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 3: Sweet, Absolutely, absolutely, Joe Luke, I sort of I tipped

509
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,879
Speaker 3: my hand in there unidentified a riser that I'm following closely.

510
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:39,880
Speaker 2: And it's not just because his significant other just gave

511
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,680
Speaker 2: birth to their first child. Luke over there in Georgia. No,

512
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:46,480
Speaker 2: not a big chicken, not Atlanta, Georgia. Talking about Roman

513
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,880
Speaker 2: deletes he Luke, Okay, I'm no longer talking about love

514
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,440
Speaker 2: triangles or the things you think I'm talking about. I'm

515
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 2: talking about an absolute hammer that if he can iron

516
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 2: out some of those wrinkles that stopped him from getting

517
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 2: past Marvin Victory when he had the close up moment,

518
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:05,360
Speaker 2: I'm wondering how many wins away Roman Deliedze is from

519
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 2: crashing this party. Even if he does not become a complete,

520
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 2: well rounded force, he seems to be one of those

521
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:13,400
Speaker 2: guys that can win a big fight in the big

522
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,119
Speaker 2: moment with what he has. He's got to work on

523
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 2: some of that craft around it, but he's a riser

524
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 2: that I'm watching closely.

525
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,640
Speaker 1: That's a good one. I mean, I so have bigged

526
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,160
Speaker 1: up this fight. But let's be honest. Other than that fight,

527
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 1: what am I paying attention to? Which is basically, well,

528
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 1: we're asking what am I paying attention to? At one

529
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty five pounds in twenty twenty four, it's

530
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,720
Speaker 1: bow Nickel, right, I really, really really want to see

531
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 1: what the hell's going to happen with him, because we

532
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 1: feel like we have a sense about his limits and

533
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:39,440
Speaker 1: how fast he can get there. And then he continues

534
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,720
Speaker 1: to challenge them in all different kinds of ways, but

535
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 1: usually just by shattering them. But what actually will happen?

536
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 1: Who will he get an opportunity against? Can he get frankly,

537
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 1: a little bit more activity. I was disappointed we didn't

538
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 1: get him at the end of the year, so I

539
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 1: guess you know, obviously we'll look for him a quarter

540
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 1: one if we can. But anyway, that's where my head

541
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 1: is at, bow Nickel. Let's see what happens. Need I

542
00:24:57,920 --> 00:24:59,160
Speaker 1: say more, No, our.

543
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,439
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty four now go to the welterweight division one

544
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 2: hundred and seventy pounds. Hey, that's Leon edwards territory. Luke.

545
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,639
Speaker 2: When we look at this division, I try to identify

546
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 2: the biggest prediction. I've got to believe you're coming at

547
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:14,679
Speaker 2: me full on Kazak right now.

548
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean this is real simple. Shofcott rock Modem

549
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 1: is going to end the year as your welterweight champion

550
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,239
Speaker 1: unless he gets hit by a car God forbid, right,

551
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:26,680
Speaker 1: I mean, unless something crazy happens. He is gonna be

552
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 1: your champion by the end of this year. And people

553
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 1: have said, oh, you're underestimating Leon. Well, I guess maybe

554
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 1: in a sense I am if I'm thinking that Shoftcut's

555
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,200
Speaker 1: gonna win, but not really like a shop. No one

556
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 1: is gonna beat Leon Edwards easily. Nobody it's not going

557
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 1: I mean, mma is crazy. You know, anytime you think

558
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 1: a guy can never lose, sometimes they do. But uh,

559
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,360
Speaker 1: I feel like Shofcott's gonna have to walk through hell

560
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 1: to get that belt. It's just if anybody can do it,

561
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 1: it's him. He is mowing through contenders. One of the

562
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 1: most remember me when I say this one of the

563
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 1: most exciting I think this is true in boxing two BC,

564
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 1: but it's a little bit different. But in MMA it's

565
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 1: especially true because the window is narrow but dynamic. There's

566
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 1: a window when you get these guys who are the

567
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,239
Speaker 1: real blue chip guys, and there's no doubt even if

568
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 1: you don't think he's gonna beat Leon, you probably would

569
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 1: be agree in agreement that he's going to fight for

570
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 1: a title like next year or at latest twenty twenty five.

571
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:22,239
Speaker 1: I mean, he's just they can't find a guy who

572
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:27,640
Speaker 1: can let last. Literally, this is the window you want

573
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,360
Speaker 1: to pay attention to, is actually before they are champion,

574
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 1: when they're going through these contenders, and it's this brand

575
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 1: new excitement every time because you just don't know exactly

576
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 1: how far they go, could they go all the way?

577
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,640
Speaker 1: Are they one of those special guys and what Shafcott

578
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 1: is doing and just easily dispatching them where they can't

579
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,680
Speaker 1: even make it to a decision against him, and he

580
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 1: did it with a bad injury. Guys, you're talking about

581
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 1: someone who has next level ability. Shafcott Rockmanov is truly special,

582
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 1: and so do I think Leon Edwards and by the

583
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 1: way balh mohamma could beat him too, Like, I don't

584
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 1: want to disrespect him either, But let's just keep the

585
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 1: conversation about Leon, assuming that's what it comes down to do.

586
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 1: I think Leon is an insanely talented fighter, no doubt

587
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 1: in my mind. I don't know if he is quite

588
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 1: as special as I believe Shotcott Rochmanov to be so.

589
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 1: But twenty twenty four, we're all gonna find out, aren't.

590
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,439
Speaker 1: We can't wait, we we surely are.

591
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 2: Do you think there is one man in the top

592
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 2: fifteen at welterweight that could give him the biggest problems?

593
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,360
Speaker 1: Brady's an interesting one because of how he could match

594
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 1: him on the ground, you think.

595
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, Leon, probably because he's the most well rounded man.

596
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 1: Obviously Obviously, again, like I said, dude, no one you

597
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 1: could always get knocked out by a single punch, But

598
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 1: in general, no one is beating him easily, Like he's

599
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 1: going to be a hard fucking guy to beat, right indeed.

600
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,120
Speaker 1: So yeah, so obviously he's on that list as well.

601
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 1: But maybe maybe those two at put And then again,

602
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to We're all just we

603
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,639
Speaker 1: keep shitting on Balmahamma and not intentionally, but it ends

604
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 1: up happening that way. I really don't mean it that way,

605
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 1: because he could come in and, by the way, crash

606
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 1: this whole party and wins none of us expected. But

607
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 1: you know, we're talking about some of the names that

608
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 1: stand out, we listened them. That's basically him, Brady, Leon

609
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 1: Blall and for now that's about it.

610
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, Hey, my prediction is going to center around Luke,

611
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 2: a husband who has come into the headlines a lot lately.

612
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 2: You know where I'm going with.

613
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,159
Speaker 1: This, lu Oh, are you making an ejaculation joke in

614
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 1: marriage sex joke? Because it's Ian Gary.

615
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 2: I didn't consider ejaculation at all in this joke, but yes,

616
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 2: I'm talking about Ian Machado Gary Luke. So here's my prediction. Look,

617
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,400
Speaker 2: I got questions right ones that weren't answered to close

618
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 2: this year because pneumonia and the flu really kicked Gary's

619
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 2: ass and dropped him out of that fight. We're gonna

620
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 2: see him reschedule coming back quickly on the turnaround against

621
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 2: Jeff Neil, which is no easy task. But here's what

622
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 2: I think Gary's gonna do in twenty twenty four. I

623
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 2: think he's gonna absolutely break and bust out. So here's

624
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. One year from now, I think Ian

625
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 2: Gary's in the same spot Shafcott is. Now. That doesn't

626
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 2: mean I think aaron Ian Gary gets to the threat

627
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 2: level that Shafcott is or the guaranteed matter of fact

628
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 2: like Luke is that I'm sorry, Shafcott's gonna end next

629
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 2: year with the title. I'm just saying I think the

630
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 2: metal inside of Ian Gary, the want for the spotlight,

631
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 2: the ability to raise his game when it matters, which coincides,

632
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 2: in my opinion, with the ability to block out distractions

633
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,239
Speaker 2: and not use not let them become an albatross to him.

634
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 2: I think there's some level of Gary with the cameras

635
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 2: following him. We've talked about it a lot, that loves

636
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 2: the attention more than anything. Well, Luke, He's gonna get

637
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 2: the attention, But I think this will be the calendar

638
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 2: year where he gets those really tough key wins. It's

639
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 2: gonna begin with Neil. They're gonna be hard fought, he's

640
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 2: gonna take you know, we're gonna find out about his chin,

641
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 2: We're gonna find out about his gas tank. But I

642
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 2: believe whether it's two wins or three that Ian Gary

643
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 2: exits twenty twenty four, getting ready to find out what

644
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 2: size his crown is and seeing if he's ready to

645
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 2: fight for a title. It might be Shafcott in twenty five, Luke,

646
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 2: and he might not have a prayer. But my point is,

647
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 2: for all the questions that we have about him, I

648
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 2: think this bright, unbeaten prospect answers them next year.

649
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll just say that right now. I'm glad that

650
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 1: we're after UFC two ninety six because my my social

651
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 1: media feed and my daily consumption of news has a

652
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 1: lot less Ian Gary news in it, and I'm really

653
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 1: happy about that. Not even mad at him, he was.

654
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 1: I was just sick of that whole new cycle.

655
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, you hate people's families a lot.

656
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 1: No, No, I hate discussing people's families.

657
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 2: Oh oh that's the difference. Okay, Well, Luke, here's one welterroit.

658
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 2: I want to tell you that I'm looking out for

659
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 2: in the new year. Can I do that to you? Lucy?

660
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 1: Please? Please?

661
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 2: You're a slav Amasov, remember.

662
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 1: That man you took mine?

663
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 2: Well, why don't you tell why don't we be fair?

664
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 2: Why don't you tell me why he's your fighter to watch?

665
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 2: It welter wait in the next.

666
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 1: One, well, because I didn't see him losing to Jason

667
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 1: Jackson in the very last Bellator event, and he didn't

668
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 1: just lose, he got stopped. And the guy had nearly

669
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 1: thirty fights before he was undefeated. So this was really

670
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 1: I can't say out of nowhere, because Jason Jackson has

671
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 1: quietly been building a very, very impressive run to this title.

672
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 1: And by the way, talking about fights to watch at

673
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 1: welterweight in twenty twenty four, how about Macgama Caramov versus

674
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 1: Jason Jackson. That's one of the very best fights you

675
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 1: can make at walter waite. People will talk about the

676
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 1: weakness of the division. If those two guys were fighting

677
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: in the UFC, it'd be a lot more dynamic. Trust me,

678
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 1: you'd be a lot less unhappy. But this loss was

679
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 1: so surprised. It was very surprising to me. It really

680
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: was how is he gonna rebound? What's it gonna look like?

681
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 1: The guy had all this time off, We thought he

682
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 1: came back great against Storley. Just a lot of questions

683
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: all of a sudden for a guy you were starting

684
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: to say you had no questions about at all. A

685
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 1: real change of fortunes, and now with this whole PFL move,

686
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: how is he going to integrate there? This is a

687
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 1: big year for the career of yours al of Amazon.

688
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 2: I couldn't agree more because two fights ago he returned

689
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 2: from a two year layoff almost while on the front

690
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 2: lines protecting his native Ukraine in the war, and came

691
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 2: back in a rematch of his toughest fight as a

692
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 2: professional against Logan Storley and made it look easy. So

693
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 2: then suddenly he's twenty seven and zero and literally, Luke,

694
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 2: I'm starting to go he beats Jason Jackson. Heading into

695
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 2: this merger with PFL, You're talking about a guy that's

696
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 2: going to be a couple wins away from tying investing

697
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 2: Havib's record. And that doesn't mean that's the record. It's

698
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 2: sort of a record in a mythical sense, like Rocky

699
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 2: Marciano's forty nine and oh was So when Floyd approached it,

700
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 2: it was like, oh crap, you know what does this

701
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 2: say about him? We were gonna say the same thing

702
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 2: about Amasov. Well, look that O was gone, So, like you,

703
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 2: I want to see how he bounces back. But even

704
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 2: on the bigger picture, he's one of the guys. You know,

705
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 2: we didn't bring up Johnny Eblin, mostly because PFL doesn't

706
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 2: have a midway division at the moment, so he's gotta

707
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 2: be on the bellatur side of things. But I do

708
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 2: think I'm Aslav Amos. I do think I'm Aslav Luke.

709
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 2: But I also think that Amasov is gonna have an

710
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 2: interesting decision. Do you want to go back into the

711
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 2: Belatour International Series, get your rematch with Jason Jackson potentially

712
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 2: and try to win back that title. Do you want

713
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 2: to go to the tournament format and a million dollars

714
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 2: for PFL or and this is less likely given his

715
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 2: current brand status. You know, are you more of the

716
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 2: of the pay per view variety? I'd have to think, Luke,

717
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 2: I'd be interested to seeing him that in the middle option.

718
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 2: I'd be interested to seeing a guy like that cross

719
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 2: over into the grind of that PFL tournament. No, he's

720
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 2: going to sign up for a bunch of fights in

721
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 2: short succession and try to see how quickly he can

722
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 2: get to a million bucks and raise his profile back up.

723
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 2: But what a weird time for that guy to be

724
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 2: entering this merger with almost no fan fare because he

725
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 2: just lost the title yet just three four months ago,

726
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 2: we're like, what are we going to do with this guy?

727
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 2: If he keeps winning, well, now he's got to come

728
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 2: back and prove that he can do it again. So

729
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 2: I look like that we both had that pick Luke,

730
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 2: and I think equally a guy we didn't mention Jack

731
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 2: Della Madelena also a guy where we want to see

732
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 2: is he going to have the exact same year that

733
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 2: I just predicted Ian gary Wood in twenty four in

734
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 2: this division? You think Jack Della is of that ilk

735
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 2: kluk where it could be it could be his year

736
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:38,479
Speaker 2: next year?

737
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the Gilbert Burns fight's going to tell

738
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: you basically the answer to that question, right, I mean,

739
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 1: that's about as legitate test as it comes at Welterwaite.

740
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: So let's see. But yeah, it's I think optimism with

741
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 1: him is right, the right call, you know, But tough

742
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: ass fight against Gilbert.

743
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 2: All right, let's drop down to one.

744
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 1: I almost I almost short circuit there for a second.

745
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 1: I apologize.

746
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 2: Did you have an internal seizure that almost became external?

747
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 2: Look what happened?

748
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was just I couldn't quite get the word

749
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: that I wanted to use, so my brain went eat

750
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 1: you know, yeah.

751
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 2: You're stroking out. Yeah, let's go to one fifty five lightweight. Luke,

752
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 2: the division that Jed Meshu the second down there in

753
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 2: hard scrabbled Georgia believes it's still the deepest in the sport.

754
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 2: He's crazy, but it's in the process of reloading, at

755
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:27,320
Speaker 2: least from the UFC standpoint. It's pretty wide opening in

756
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 2: the pelletor slash BFL standpoint, because we never got the

757
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,760
Speaker 2: conclusion of that tournament, we don't know if Usman Nirmaga

758
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 2: Madoff will be cleared. So, Luke, all things considered, what

759
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 2: is your big prediction for one fifty five next year.

760
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 1: I don't really have a great one other than Islam

761
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: is basically going to finish the year completely untested. I

762
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: don't think that there's really anything anyone's going to do

763
00:34:55,960 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: to wrestle that away. Now, you might say, sar yuki In, Okay,

764
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: I guess we'll see BC, I guess we'll see I

765
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 1: guess I guess. I'm still not believing in my native

766
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: art and my fellow Armenian Arminzaryukin. I just feel like

767
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: Islam is either going to fight one time and then

768
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,359
Speaker 1: get a welterweight title shot. So it may not even matter,

769
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 1: or it just won't matter in the end because he

770
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 1: held just won all the fights at one fifty five,

771
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: it's probably gonna be more the likely the latter one. BC.

772
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 1: Think about it. If he goes and beats Justin Gaichee,

773
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: Let's say he finishes him on the ground or something.

774
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: He's already saying now and said before this fight he

775
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 1: wanted to fight at one seventy. He goes and then

776
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 1: dusts off Justin Gaichee. Now they might give him more, SOYUKN.

777
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 1: I guess we'll see. It really depends on everything else.

778
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,840
Speaker 1: But I think he's going to try and go to

779
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 1: one seventy at that point, and so you know, we're

780
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 1: gonna see how that whole thing plays out too. But

781
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: or he might sit out, and god only knows what else.

782
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,320
Speaker 1: I just feel like nothing is really going to destabilize

783
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 1: the so's so called monarch anyway of one hundred and

784
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: fifty five pounds. It's the best way I can say it.

785
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,280
Speaker 2: Interesting. Yeah, it's tough to see with so many ambitious

786
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 2: champions wanting to move up, and if anyone maybe there's

787
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 2: derves a chance out of the group. I mean, you know,

788
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 2: you're talking about a champion of Mahachev who just beat

789
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 2: the best fighter in the world twice in the same

790
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 2: calendar year, Volkanovski, i'llbeit a smaller fighter moving up, but

791
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,919
Speaker 2: you know he has started to put together big names

792
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 2: on his lightweight resume too. Could he add another one

793
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 2: to start the year? Could he move up? It is interesting.

794
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,959
Speaker 2: My prediction is very simple, Luke, I just don't feel

795
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 2: like we're gonna see Connor versus Chandler at lightweight too,

796
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 2: And maybe we're never gonna see it in lightweight. Maybe

797
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 2: if it did happen, it was gonna be at welterweight,

798
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 2: So it's a little bit of a trick. Wrong question,

799
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 2: But I mean, you hear Michael Chandler talking about I'm

800
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 2: waiting for Connor. I still believe. Dana even admitted we

801
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,280
Speaker 2: got a lot of fighters here that are just waiting

802
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 2: for a big fight, like Colby did. Chandler is one

803
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,720
Speaker 2: of them. But Luke, you never ever ever hear Connor

804
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 2: talking about fighting Chandler, and lately you hear Dana talking

805
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 2: about it even less. So we have debated in the

806
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 2: past that they don't necessarily need Connor at UFC three hundred.

807
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 2: Right when Connor fights, they kind of stop everything and

808
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 2: put together a patchwork undercard because they know he sells.

809
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, look for him to return on his

810
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 2: own card. I'm just saying between ideas of him maybe

811
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 2: fighting Geechee for the BMF, you know my Patty idea.

812
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 2: You know there's a lot of crossover ideas. There's anate

813
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 2: third fight, masvid All. I mean, you could go a

814
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 2: lot of different directions with old guys too. I just

815
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 2: feel like if we were gonna see this fight the

816
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 2: wheels really would have been in motion already a year ago.

817
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 2: Remember a year ago, Luke, when when Tough Season was

818
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 2: being filmed and we were like, okay, so what's the timeline. Now?

819
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 2: If Connor goes in the pool, now what happens? Luke?

820
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 2: He never stepped a toe in that pool as far

821
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 2: as I'm concerned. So now that you saw it is

822
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 2: going away, let's let that guy juice to the gills

823
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 2: and come back against whoever he wants, because that's what's

824
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 2: gonna happen anyway? Am I speaking crazy here? Luke? He

825
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 2: doesn't want to fight Chandler. It's obvious. It's obvious.

826
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's an interesting one. That's a great I said

827
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 1: something similar a while ago, but just didn't believe it.

828
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, it won't happen, And now

829
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 1: you're getting closer, You're like, oh, Jesus man, I'm not

830
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 1: gonna do anything like what's going with. No, it's just

831
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: Channer kind of being like, the flames still lit, the

832
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 1: flames still lit, and it's like, okay, And I mean,

833
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 1: you can't say no until we go through the three

834
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 1: hundred card and whatever Connor does. But you're right, dude,

835
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 1: would you buy that stock? And given the way it's

836
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:16,879
Speaker 1: moving now?

837
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 2: No, because look, we all know that Connor has a

838
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 2: very short shelf life left. He's injury prone. You know,

839
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 2: how serious is he really committed to training with everything

840
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 2: else going on? I really think it's going to be

841
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 2: a couple hand picked old guy or like I said,

842
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 2: a Patty type fight where you're fighting a not so

843
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 2: ready younger guy. Just one of those. They're going to

844
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 2: be spectacle fights. So I don't think you're going to

845
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 2: see him going into fights he doesn't want to, is

846
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 2: really what I'm trying to say, right, you know, and

847
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 2: I think he's going to take that hard stance. But Luke,

848
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,280
Speaker 2: there's so many fighters we could watch in the lightweight

849
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 2: division across you know, global MMA, but I want to

850
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 2: shout out one name. Right the champion has a name, well,

851
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 2: he used to have a name, and it was Charles Olivera.

852
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 2: I actually think when you look at the top ten

853
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 2: at lightweight right now, the only true threat to Mahachev's

854
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 2: title is Olivera in a rematch because what he did

855
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 2: to darry Yush and the confidence he's carrying even though

856
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 2: he had to pull out of that scheduled rematch in

857
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 2: Abu Dhabi with Mahachev. I just think that the way

858
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 2: that Charles Olivera is operating, I'm more apt to actually

859
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 2: believe him when he said that first fight was an aberration,

860
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 2: ten horrible minutes he got handled. The fight over the

861
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 2: Islam era begins. I just think that even at his age,

862
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 2: Charles Olivera is gonna have one more big swing if

863
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 2: he gets the opportunity, and it's going to be an

864
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 2: absolute threat to take that title back against Islam. And

865
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 2: if they make that fight, I'm gonna be watching it closely.

866
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,839
Speaker 1: Lud Yeah, fair enough for me. I'm just gonna hedge

867
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 1: a little bit here. It has to be arminsar Yuki

868
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 1: in right, because no matter whether he have to well

869
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 1: have to be it does.

870
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 2: It could be BSDC, Luke get Frenchy with me, It

871
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,800
Speaker 2: could be Ben was sound, It could.

872
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 1: Be, But I still he's so much further away. I

873
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 1: guess that you gotta still see. Although he does have

874
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 1: exciting fights ahead of him in twenty twenty four, fair enough,

875
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 1: but with so Yu can he's right around that spot.

876
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 1: So does he fight Olavera? Does he win? Does he lose?

877
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 1: How does he look like? Who does he fight? Poorier like?

878
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 1: We don't really know what might be next if he

879
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: doesn't get a title shot and what that's gonna look

880
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,800
Speaker 1: like and everything. So definitely, definitely definitely for me. So

881
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 1: Yuki and is one of these guys we talked about it.

882
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 1: The graduating class of new guys wasn't quite the graduation

883
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: that we thought. But maybe they're gonna start to pick

884
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:22,240
Speaker 1: it up here in twenty twenty.

885
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 2: Four, maybe Luke, maybe frickin' not. You got to name

886
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 2: two other guys in this division, AJ McKee, Usman and

887
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 2: Maga metof Yeah, good call we hope they'd be in

888
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 2: the Bellotour Lightweight Grand Prix Championship. It was arguably the

889
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 2: best fight you could have made in all of Belato

890
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 2: over the past year. Now, I don't know where they're going.

891
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 2: Usman had the drug test, he got pulled from that tournament.

892
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 2: We don't think that tournament's gonna conclude. Is Usman gonna

893
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 2: go into the PFL Bellatour? Is he out of the car?

894
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:49,320
Speaker 2: I mean, like there's a lot of questions, and the

895
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 2: same thing with McKee Luke. You could argue that McKee

896
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 2: is the most valuable. You get to the same about Usman,

897
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 2: that either of these guys is the most valuable acquisition

898
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 2: from PFL in this deal. You could argue that. Good.

899
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,800
Speaker 2: So let's see where these guys end up, what weight class,

900
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 2: what side of the company of PFL Inc. That they're

901
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 2: gonna go after. This could be a really big years

902
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 2: for both. They could also do nothing. Look can be wasted.

903
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,399
Speaker 2: We got to find out. I'm gonna be wasted watching them,

904
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 2: you know.

905
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I'm gonna be high as balls watching them.

906
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 1: It's gonna be great.

907
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you, all right, and any other lightweights

908
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 2: you care about, probably not right, No, thank you. That's

909
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 2: that's the bottom line on that one. All right, Loui, you.

910
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 1: Would have said, you would have said, I mean, maybe

911
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,439
Speaker 1: you would have said, oam if he stuck around maybe,

912
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 1: but he's gone too, So like what who else is there?

913
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 1: All right?

914
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 2: Well, Luke, speaking of a new year and trying to

915
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 2: predict the future in MMA, I can predict the future

916
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 2: for anybody out there who's heading into the new year,

917
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 2: maybe hoping they can make a health change, maybe already

918
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 2: purchase the new gym membership. But my prediction is this, guys,

919
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 2: if you don't have it together, if you don't have

920
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:51,760
Speaker 2: a plan, if you don't have the knowledge and wisdom

921
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 2: at hand. Heck, if you don't have the coach in

922
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 2: the palm of your hand like the fit Bod app

923
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 2: gives you, then I gotta tell you good luck climbing

924
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,880
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925
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 2: you want everything in one in an app that can

926
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:10,840
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927
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:14,279
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928
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 2: one thousand instructional videos on new ways to build your

929
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,759
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930
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:23,520
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931
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 1: Guys, this is real simple. You want to have a

932
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 1: new Year's resolution for January. January is now just really

933
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:32,640
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934
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935
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 1: You got some time to get this right. Because it's

936
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,560
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937
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938
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939
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940
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941
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942
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943
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944
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945
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946
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,360
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947
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948
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949
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 2: I used to think it was weird back in the

950
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 2: nineties when people would show up at the gym with

951
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,400
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952
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 2: down every rep and they'd be charting it like it's

953
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 2: a science nerd experiment. Turns out, Luke, the nerds are

954
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,440
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955
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,759
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956
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957
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958
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959
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960
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,480
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961
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:46,719
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962
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,760
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963
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964
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:55,279
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965
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,400
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966
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967
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968
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971
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979
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Speaker 1: all right.

980
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 2: Look back to twenty twenty four in MMA, and when

981
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,720
Speaker 2: we look at featherweight, the old one four five. Obviously,

982
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 2: my prediction is simple, right, a certain great featherweight will

983
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 2: finally come out of retirement and gain the UFC title

984
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,359
Speaker 2: after years of us wondering. Is either the great one

985
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 2: that got away? You know what direction I'm going there? Right?

986
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a bunch of silliness. Can I tell you

987
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 1: what's actually going to happen in sure?

988
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 2: Wait? Wait, you don't believe in zabeat, Luke? What are

989
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 2: you doing?

990
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 1: Isn't he a doctor now or some engineering student or

991
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 1: some shit? I don't know something like that. He ain't fighting.

992
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 2: I can tell you that I don't speak Russian, Luke.

993
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 2: I'm not even in a hurry. What do you got

994
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 2: at Featherwick?

995
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, elliot, Suportia is going to be your next featherweight

996
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 1: champion in twenty twenty four.

997
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,439
Speaker 2: Okay, that's just because he reps Spain and you love

998
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,760
Speaker 2: Madrid so much. Come on, Luke's show your cards.

999
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 1: I got a question for you. How come I can't

1000
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 1: believe in things for reasons I actually believe in them?

1001
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:32,800
Speaker 1: Why do I have to believe in them for the

1002
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 1: phony reasons that you invent in your head that I

1003
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 1: like them?

1004
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 2: Because, Luke, I embody the spirit of our fan base. Okay, Luke,

1005
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 2: that's why. All right, It's just so.

1006
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 1: It just amazes me that no one is allowed to

1007
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 1: actually like things for reasons. They like them. They have to.

1008
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:52,360
Speaker 1: They can only like them by this bizarre interpretation, this

1009
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 1: prism of limited understand efactly all bad faith interpretation for

1010
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 1: one's human action.

1011
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 2: Right, suare a good faith give me a good faith

1012
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 2: interpretation of Touri is the man next year?

1013
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 1: So is anyone going to credibly claim I haven't give

1014
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 1: Volkanovsky his due as a fighter? Please be fucking serious.

1015
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 1: The guy actually changed my perspective frankly, on what I

1016
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 1: thought fighters could do. If you actually ask me what

1017
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 1: I think Volkanovsky leaves to the fight game. It's the

1018
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 1: ways in which he talked about it before scrambling their brains.

1019
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: Everyone tries to do it, but the systematized, free flow

1020
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 1: jazz kind of way that he was able to do it,

1021
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 1: I think actually raise the level of what you've ever

1022
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: seen in NMA. I really mean that. I actually think

1023
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 1: he's that good. I have that much respect for him

1024
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 1: that I think if you can change the sport, think

1025
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: about a BC. The best players you've ever heard of

1026
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 1: talking about American football, these were guys like Jim Brown.

1027
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 1: They had to make rules to change the game so

1028
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 1: Jim Brown would stop shitting on him. That's the level

1029
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 1: of ability he had anyway. And that was in lacrosse

1030
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 1: actually not football, but same concept. But he is thirty five,

1031
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 1: or he will be by the time they fight. And

1032
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 1: more to the point, coming off of that head kit

1033
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 1: Ko to to Islam, I understand that from a medical

1034
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:07,360
Speaker 1: suspension standpoint, he's doing everything above board. I understand uh that.

1035
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 1: I'm sure he and his team have thought about this,

1036
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 1: had taken the best care that they possibly could all

1037
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 1: given the circumstances. I'm sure he'll have a great camp.

1038
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 1: Like I don't have any mistrust of what Volkanovsky can do.

1039
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 1: I just think Father Time will in fact catch up

1040
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 1: with him in twenty twenty four. The speed at which

1041
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 1: he's been moving has been remarkable for a long time.

1042
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:30,399
Speaker 1: It was true when folks were not paying attention when

1043
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 1: he was beating the Jose Aldos of the world, when

1044
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 1: he was beating the Chad Mendeses of the world, and

1045
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 1: no one really pegged him as a future guy. He's

1046
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 1: been killing it for that long and here he has

1047
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:43,360
Speaker 1: arrived at this point. The problem is, this is a brutal,

1048
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 1: fucking game. To Poria is next level good and no one,

1049
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 1: no one, not even the great Alexander Volkanovsky, can beat

1050
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:54,320
Speaker 1: Father Time. That's it.

1051
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 2: That's very true. It's very true, and that's why that

1052
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:58,399
Speaker 2: fight is so important. We're gonna find that out. It's

1053
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 2: gonna have a it's gonna it's gonna to dictate a lot,

1054
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 2: because I was, you know, toying whether to make a

1055
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 2: prediction around Max Holloway, who's the number one contender right

1056
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,959
Speaker 2: now at featherweight and still has it. But Luke, he's

1057
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 2: kind of dependent upon Tuporia winning right to try to

1058
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 2: to try to turn this upside down and give him

1059
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:19,800
Speaker 2: an opportunity. So let's talk about if Volkanowski won, what

1060
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 2: would be my prediction. Here's what it's built around, Luke.

1061
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 2: Even though I've made predictions or fighters to watch in

1062
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 2: this division exclusively about Brian Ortega for each of the

1063
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,399
Speaker 2: last years that I've worked at MMA, because I love

1064
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 2: that guy. He doesn't seem to be coming out of

1065
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:35,799
Speaker 2: that bullpen for the big renaissance hero, although let's give

1066
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 2: him another chance. You know who's coming on, Luke, Arnold Allen,

1067
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 2: the Almighty, and what I saw in his last fight

1068
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 2: earlier this year, the incredible five round fight in Kansas

1069
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 2: City against Max Holloway, in which Allen lost, but it

1070
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 2: was one of those fights where they both got elevated.

1071
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 2: Allan proved that he belongs at this elite level and

1072
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 2: if anything, kind of learned a tough lesson about maybe

1073
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 2: believing in himself a little bit more, because when he

1074
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 2: did stay on the gas and put the pressure on Max,

1075
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 2: he had big success. And when he poured it on

1076
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 2: the final round, you started to believe, Hey, you restart

1077
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 2: this fight over again, maybe Alan gets the w this time. So, Luke,

1078
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 2: there's rumors that Arnold Allen could come back to kick

1079
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 2: off the new year in a bounce back fight against

1080
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 2: movsar Ev Looev with respect to that guy who's ranked

1081
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 2: number nine in the UFC right now, But my prediction is, Luke,

1082
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:26,359
Speaker 2: that Arnold Allen, if things fall his way, could find

1083
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 2: himself in line for a title shot at the end

1084
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 2: of this calendar year. You have Ear Rodriguez and Brian

1085
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,479
Speaker 2: Ortega at two and three, but can be question marks

1086
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 2: in some degree, especially Ortega, and you've got Tuporia who

1087
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 2: at number five if he loses against Volkanovski. It really

1088
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 2: comes down to this as UFC gonna sub max In

1089
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 2: probably not. Is there still time for Giga Chikazi or

1090
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 2: anybody else at the back end of this top ten

1091
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 2: to make some big noise, of course, But who is

1092
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:54,840
Speaker 2: really like a guy in this top ten that really

1093
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 2: you can carve a path for. I think it's Arnold Allen,

1094
00:49:57,719 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 2: and I think the company respects the performance he had

1095
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:01,799
Speaker 2: against He's got to come out in his first fight

1096
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 2: in the new year and put it on. But Luke,

1097
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:05,840
Speaker 2: I don't think this guy's figured out how great he

1098
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 2: can be at twenty nine, and I think he will

1099
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 2: next year. And I think a'll fight for a world title.

1100
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 2: What do you think about that?

1101
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's actually a decent I don't think that's

1102
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 1: too crazy. I would mostly agree with.

1103
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:18,319
Speaker 2: That, Okay, mostly, all right, who are you watching for? Then?

1104
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:21,280
Speaker 1: I'm going to give two names from the same organization,

1105
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:23,839
Speaker 1: because I mean, obviously you could pick harvery one from UFC,

1106
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 1: But I do think there's more interesting stories sometimes around

1107
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:29,359
Speaker 1: the league, so to speak. B see what about Aaron

1108
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:33,800
Speaker 1: Pico and Patricio Pitbull. Now they're both still in Belatore

1109
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 1: and we don't know what's next. But Pico in his

1110
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:40,839
Speaker 1: last fight looked great, looked tremendous. They have really done.

1111
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 1: It appears Brandon Gibson and the folks over Jackson Wink

1112
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:46,879
Speaker 1: have done a phenomenal job in slowly rebuilding him into

1113
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 1: the great fighter that he appears to have become. Will

1114
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:50,839
Speaker 1: he get a title shot? I don't know what's next

1115
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 1: is really a big question for me. But also b C.

1116
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:56,800
Speaker 1: Patrisio Pitbull still the featherweight champion over there at Bellatour,

1117
00:50:56,880 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 1: but man big questions coming off of obviously, what have

1118
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 1: not been the most successful of his campaign of his

1119
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:05,360
Speaker 1: career in the last year, So obviously punctuated by, in

1120
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 1: my mind, the one thirty five loss attempt to Sergio Petz,

1121
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 1: which he lost pretty cleanly, and then PATCHI mix when

1122
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 1: then there and we'll talk about him a little bit

1123
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 1: later going there and just kind of beaten. I won't say,

1124
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 1: no problem, but relatively simply beating Sergio pettis so big.

1125
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 1: Questions around two very good, very interesting, different stages of

1126
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 1: their career featherweights over at Bellatour obviously with Belator another

1127
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 1: layer of intrigue on top of it. Let's see.

1128
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was going to go with Areon Peko is

1129
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:33,800
Speaker 2: my choice because I think he's the most interesting to

1130
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 2: see if he breaks out, whether they make that pit

1131
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 2: bull fight, can you win it? Can you win the championship?

1132
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 2: I just think when you look at the fighters that

1133
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 2: PFL acquired from the Bellator banner, Pico is one of

1134
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 2: the most interesting because he's still young enough and could

1135
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 2: potentially dominant enough to actually become a consistent champion and

1136
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:51,720
Speaker 2: a star. But look, if I've got to pick somebody,

1137
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 2: since you stole that thunder, I got to see what

1138
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 2: happens with Bryce Mitchell. He is someone to watch and

1139
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 2: it's potentially not in a good way, And he did

1140
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 2: put out a video immediately after his knockout loss at

1141
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:03,840
Speaker 2: UFC two ninety six, just thanking Josh Emmittt for not

1142
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 2: piling on with more punches. But Luke, even though a

1143
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 2: lot of it was given glory to the Lord and

1144
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 2: even said the loss kind of open him up to

1145
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 2: the idea now of looking for more ways to serve

1146
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 2: the Lord. I got a lot of questions if he

1147
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 2: bounces back and is the same fighter mentally and physically

1148
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 2: after such a destructive knockout. Now two destructive losses in

1149
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:24,879
Speaker 2: three fights. Look, it's tough when guys are around this age,

1150
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 2: right in the midst of their prime, where one devastating

1151
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 2: loss or injury sometimes sends them in a direction they

1152
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 2: never come back from. You hope for Mitchell this is

1153
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,839
Speaker 2: not the case. But even if it's not, Luke as

1154
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 2: good as he is on the ground, to defeat the

1155
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 2: big time killers on the you gotta beat a lot

1156
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 2: of these guys on the feet. And I still question

1157
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 2: whether he's at that level as we've seen in two

1158
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 2: of those last three fights, and chasing that, are we

1159
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:49,320
Speaker 2: going to see more endings like that? Now that's a

1160
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 2: random one Emmett was in great shape, landed the perfect punch.

1161
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 2: But we both said it. When Bryce Mitchell went down,

1162
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 2: you know, you hope this isn't the one that pushes

1163
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 2: him down toward the toward the gates, toward the exit.

1164
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:10,839
Speaker 2: You never know with a knockout like that. Indeed, absolutely absolutely, Jam. Well,

1165
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:14,320
Speaker 2: look that was men's featherweight. Now it's time to really

1166
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 2: get you working, okay, because now.

1167
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:19,720
Speaker 1: It's time for we Yeah, I mean, easy, easy, Kayla, Cyborg.

1168
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 1: We're gonna get it. Are we gonna get it? One

1169
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:24,400
Speaker 1: forty five? I know they're supposed to do the champion

1170
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:27,240
Speaker 1: versus champion bits, so we're supposed to get obviously Pacheco

1171
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 1: taken on Cyborg or that's what is again, we'll see.

1172
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 1: I don't really know what. I don't really know ultimately

1173
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 1: what they're going to do. They're putting, dude. Only the

1174
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 1: PFL would put a fight no one asked for in

1175
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 1: front of the fight people have at least asked for

1176
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 1: somewhat and then for a time a lot. Only they

1177
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:47,759
Speaker 1: would be like, Okay, we can't give you the thing

1178
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:49,879
Speaker 1: you want, but here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna

1179
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 1: give you a dangerous fight that not only will come

1180
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:54,359
Speaker 1: before it, but could actually ruin the one after.

1181
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 2: Okay, here's what I'll say with him. If you and

1182
00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 2: you're referencing putting Pacheco against Cyborg in the bell toward.

1183
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 1: Versus PFI, this button pfl fas, I think that is.

1184
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:05,840
Speaker 2: One of the best matchups in that crossover series. So

1185
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 2: it's worth doing.

1186
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying it's I'm not saying it's a

1187
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:08,839
Speaker 1: bad fight.

1188
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 2: Get your point. Can I get to number two then

1189
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 2: so you can understand why I'm why I'm giving you

1190
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,479
Speaker 2: two points and number two, I think the promotion wins

1191
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 2: because whoever wins that, that's a fresh fight against Kayla,

1192
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 2: meaning she could have the chance to redeem herself against

1193
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 2: Pacheco and do it after Pochecco slays Cyborg if it happens,

1194
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:30,360
Speaker 2: which makes that fight bigger or Pachecover. I'm sorry, Cyborg

1195
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 2: versus Kayla is just big unto itself, and with Pacheco losing,

1196
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:35,320
Speaker 2: do you know what that would mean? Look, if Cyborg

1197
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:38,359
Speaker 2: beats Pacheco first, that means they can do Cayla versus

1198
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 2: Cyborg without everybody going, Hey, didn't Kyla lose to Pacheco

1199
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 2: why or she you know.

1200
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 1: So I'm saying, is that what people are gonna do.

1201
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 1: The PFL die hards are really going to hold their

1202
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:50,360
Speaker 1: feet to the fire, right so they well, you know

1203
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 1: what we really dude, when are people going to realize

1204
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 1: that procedural adherents in the most strict sense is the

1205
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 1: is the death of MMA promotions? Like, you do need structure,

1206
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:04,840
Speaker 1: you do need order, but you need the ability to

1207
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 1: tap dance at times as well. If Francis gets a

1208
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,360
Speaker 1: big fight, which is a big if, but if Francis

1209
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 1: gets a big fight in the PFL, whatever that may mean,

1210
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 1: you know, just I'm positing a scenario you would it

1211
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 1: would make much more sense to have Cyborg versus Kayla

1212
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: on that card unobstructed, uh, for whatever marvels you want

1213
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 1: to make it for. By the way, Pride used to

1214
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:27,879
Speaker 1: do non title fights like that all the time, which

1215
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 1: I'm not the biggest fan of either, but you know

1216
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:32,399
Speaker 1: there are ways around this. I'm just pointing out. I'm

1217
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 1: not one hundred percent check oversus. Cyborg is a great fight, dude,

1218
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 1: to check out my go in there and wipe the

1219
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 1: floor with her, like you just you know, she seems

1220
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 1: a tough customer. But PFL is at the point now

1221
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 1: where they need to do maximally everything they can with

1222
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 1: any names that they have trying to follow that proceduralism

1223
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 1: makes a little bit more sense for something like the UFC.

1224
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:55,840
Speaker 1: It does not make sense for a promoter at the

1225
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 1: level of the PFL state. It's the same thing as like, yeah,

1226
00:55:57,800 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 1: we're going to get you sought up, dude. The ability

1227
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 1: to rely on state commission drug testing as a means

1228
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 1: to run your product is a benefit to you. Oh

1229
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:07,800
Speaker 1: my god, what are you doing?

1230
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 2: You know I'm with you on that, all right. My prediction, Luca,

1231
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:14,400
Speaker 2: is pretty simple. UFC finally shuts the door on a

1232
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 2: division that they've really never embraced and only rolled out

1233
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 2: for the hopes and chances of Chris Cyborg winning a title,

1234
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 2: and it happened. We've kept it around, maybe for the

1235
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 2: hope that Kayla comes over. But Luke, it looks like

1236
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 2: Kayla's gonna be on the other side. It look it

1237
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:29,399
Speaker 2: appears to be maybe one I'm wrong, but it looks

1238
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:30,839
Speaker 2: to me she's gonna end up on the other side

1239
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 2: of the street. I gotta think they shut it down, Luke.

1240
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:36,759
Speaker 2: They haven't had any movement since Amanda Nuness retired earlier

1241
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:38,720
Speaker 2: this year, and really they hadn't even had any movement

1242
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 2: for a year before that in this division. What's the

1243
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 2: reason to keep it around If Kayla's not walking through

1244
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 2: that door. And I'm gonna combine my prediction with my

1245
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 2: fighter to watch. My fighter to watch is Kayla, mostly

1246
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 2: because I want to see where she actually fits in. Look,

1247
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 2: if they just send her right to pay per view

1248
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:57,880
Speaker 2: and she fights Cyborg and that's the cruxer for twenty

1249
00:56:57,960 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 2: twenty four and then maybe they throw around at the

1250
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 2: end of the year. You're in the championship card in

1251
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 2: a one off. Okay, you can see that, But Luke,

1252
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:07,400
Speaker 2: can Kayla consistently make one forty five? We don't know that.

1253
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 2: We don't know that if she could compete for the

1254
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 2: Bellatoor Championship, should she enter that side of it or

1255
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 2: ever go back into a tournament bracket. I don't know

1256
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 2: if she can make one forty five consistently, So maybe

1257
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 2: she is only a pay per view brand. But if

1258
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 2: she stays on that side of the fence, UFC has

1259
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 2: no reason to keep that division around. There's nobody coming

1260
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 2: up in the ranks or through that door at Women's

1261
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 2: one forty five in the UFC, that would make sense

1262
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:34,440
Speaker 2: to employ that anymore. You're done, We're done. Look, do

1263
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 2: you have anybody to watch her? You're saying there's nobody

1264
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 2: to watch, that's who you should watch.

1265
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't have strong feelings about that at all.

1266
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 2: All right, all right, let's go to Men's band on Wait.

1267
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 2: Arguably the best, the deepest division in the entire sport

1268
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 2: and is headed for some really big things right around

1269
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 2: the corner to kick off this new year with Sean

1270
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 2: O'Malley and Cheeto Vera. So Luke Thomas. When you look

1271
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 2: at the division globally at large, give me a prediction here,

1272
00:57:58,440 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 2: give me something juicy.

1273
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 1: Oh man, I don't have quite the same feeling, even though,

1274
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 1: like I'm actually most excited about this division more so

1275
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 1: than any other division. Is I'm kind of bleeding between

1276
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 1: the two things we're doing, which is like a prediction

1277
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 1: and then a fighter to watch. Here's what I'm going

1278
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 1: to do BC. I'm going to kind of combine it

1279
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 1: a little bit because I know that their universes won't overlap, unfortunately,

1280
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 1: but the two guys I've got my eyes on for

1281
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 1: what they could do and what it might mean. Are

1282
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 1: it's got to be over a bellat or Patchi Mix

1283
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:30,919
Speaker 1: having just absolutely had the twenty twenty three of his life,

1284
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 1: a tournament run that was spectacular. I mean, he couldn't

1285
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 1: have looked better except to have maybe finished Horagucci, but

1286
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 1: he controlled him and won that one cleanly the whole

1287
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 1: way through and then finished everybody else, including the champion,

1288
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 1: Sergio Pettis. In terms of the unification, what the hell

1289
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 1: are they going to do with him? There's only going

1290
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:54,439
Speaker 1: to be eight Belatoor events next year. Are they really

1291
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 1: going to be able to keep him active? How much

1292
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 1: of the roster have they called? Oh my god, dude,

1293
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 1: like that is a huge question. You've got a guy

1294
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 1: who has a claim. In my mind, I don't know

1295
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 1: if Patchi Mix is the best ban to win in

1296
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 1: the world, but I know if he's not, he's going

1297
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 1: to give the next best one the toughest fight of

1298
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 1: their life and probably beat a few of those guys

1299
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:15,479
Speaker 1: in the contender spot from five to two. He is good,

1300
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 1: very good, and young and well rounded and only getting better.

1301
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 1: It is amazing what a natural dynamic finisher he is.

1302
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 1: But I'm a little bit worried BC, if I can

1303
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 1: be honest with you, that they're going to put him

1304
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 1: in a way to not maximually be able to do

1305
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 1: a whole lot with it. I really do not like

1306
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 1: this plan that PFL has for Bellator. I'm not saying

1307
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 1: it's going to be a disaster for everybody, but special

1308
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 1: cases like PATCHI do I really think he can maximize

1309
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 1: his time. And when there's only eight calendar events on

1310
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 1: the year and they've got to give fights to a

1311
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 1: bunch of people, I don't really feel great about that,

1312
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:49,000
Speaker 1: to be honest with you. So now they are supposed

1313
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 1: to have the showdown versus PFL. That could be kind

1314
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 1: of interesting. But I mean, who even is the PFL

1315
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 1: one thirty five pound champ. I'm not even sure I

1316
00:59:58,080 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 1: know the answer to that.

1317
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 2: Who.

1318
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:04,960
Speaker 1: No, Panato is one forty five, Potato's one forty five.

1319
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 1: Let me look this up here.

1320
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 2: They Luke, I.

1321
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:10,400
Speaker 1: Don't think that they do. They didn't. They didn't at

1322
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 1: the last thing.

1323
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 2: They don't have middleweight No, so they don't.

1324
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 1: They don't even have one. This is what I mean

1325
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 1: they had. They don't even have anyone for him to

1326
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 1: unify against. And it's like, this guy's too good. This

1327
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:26,919
Speaker 1: is like, of all the cars in your driveway, which

1328
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 1: one is this? Dude? I mean, I don't know how

1329
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 1: nice you want to go with the metaphors, but this

1330
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 1: is the nice one. This is I have, not the

1331
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 1: crown jewel, the one right behind it, Like, yeah, you

1332
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 1: gotta like an orange Subaru, like an orange Subaru that

1333
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 1: someone stole from Lilith Fair when the Indigo Girls were headlining.

1334
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:46,960
Speaker 1: Uh so that's one. The other had I guess move

1335
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 1: it no movld hubble live maybe in twenty twenty one,

1336
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 1: or was that one forty five? I can't even remember

1337
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 1: anymore anyway, neither here nor there. The second one's gonna

1338
01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 1: be Umar NUMBERA Madoff BC Umar number gamdof. I cannot

1339
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:03,439
Speaker 1: believe how much he's been forgotten. In fact, the dudes

1340
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 1: out there tweeting recently about like, how come no one's

1341
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 1: calling my name? Great question? Well we sort of know

1342
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 1: the answer to it, don't we. No one really wants

1343
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 1: to fuck with that guy, but they're gonna have to

1344
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 1: come see him eventually. And I think twenty twenty four

1345
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 1: is going to be the year he's too far back

1346
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 1: in the pack. BC to just run up on a

1347
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:21,919
Speaker 1: title shot. I just don't see that happening. But he's

1348
01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:25,680
Speaker 1: going to have some interesting scraps this year and how

1349
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:29,400
Speaker 1: that changes, especially if you know the depending on who

1350
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 1: he has to go through, whether it's San Haagen or

1351
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:33,520
Speaker 1: anybody else, what this is going to teach us? That

1352
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 1: has got to be a fight to pay attention to.

1353
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 1: Two fight scenarios, two different organizations. Maybe they're two best

1354
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:43,840
Speaker 1: bantamways we'll see, but two definitely interesting storylines, a.

1355
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 2: Very big picture there. I like them both, like I

1356
01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 2: almost was going to go with Umar myself. My fighter

1357
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:50,480
Speaker 2: to watch is actually al Jamine Sterling Luke because I

1358
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:52,919
Speaker 2: don't know where he fits in suddenly right he's still

1359
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 2: the number one contender, just lost the title, litt ol'malley

1360
01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:58,240
Speaker 2: is talking still about should I move it up to

1361
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 2: forty five or will he take another big matchup. I'm

1362
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:03,680
Speaker 2: not sure Luking. With the age creeping up in these

1363
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 2: smaller weight classes, you do have to watch that as well.

1364
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 2: For al Joe, will he break out and have some big,

1365
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:12,320
Speaker 2: you know, non title wins and or establish himself a

1366
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 2: new and a new division or not. I don't know,

1367
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:17,760
Speaker 2: but my prediction bold prediction for Bannaway for next year

1368
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 2: is twenty twenty four as MMA Fighter of the Year.

1369
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 2: Is currently in this top ten Luke, and he's gonna

1370
01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 2: close the year as champion. Are you ready for this?

1371
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 2: Rob devolish Willie because if he gets a win over

1372
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:32,760
Speaker 2: Henry so Hudo, which I'm gonna assume, he's gonna be

1373
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:34,960
Speaker 2: the betting favorite. Although that's a great fight to start

1374
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:38,360
Speaker 2: the year, could you imagine him then fighting the winner

1375
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:43,280
Speaker 2: of the champion O'Malley versus Cheato Era and winning that

1376
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 2: championship to close there? Yes, I can look, it's his time,

1377
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:48,439
Speaker 2: it's here. I know there's been injuries, I know there's

1378
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 2: been some things. But what separates him the cardio, because

1379
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 2: he's already proven that he he can win a crazy

1380
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:56,400
Speaker 2: war like the one he had with Marlon Morais. He's

1381
01:02:56,560 --> 01:02:59,000
Speaker 2: proven that that cardio can go twenty five full minutes

1382
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:00,960
Speaker 2: and he can wear out anybody. And when you've got

1383
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 2: the wrestling to take down guys like O'Malley, and when

1384
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:06,040
Speaker 2: you have the gas tank to outlast everybody, you're you're

1385
01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 2: a major problem. Gimme morob to be Fighter of the

1386
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 2: Year and champion of maybe the deepest division in the sport.

1387
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:14,360
Speaker 2: All right, Luke, we can't keep you here all day,

1388
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:17,200
Speaker 2: so let's keep slot sliding down here. Let's go to

1389
01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:21,240
Speaker 2: women's bannamweight, another near vacant division here one thirty five,

1390
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:24,440
Speaker 2: at least in UFC terms, is your prediction that this

1391
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 2: division also gets shut down along with one.

1392
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:30,040
Speaker 1: Or I'll be honest, I sat here and pretended like

1393
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:32,280
Speaker 1: I have a prediction. If I do have one, it's

1394
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:35,040
Speaker 1: that Mischa Tate might find her way into another title shot.

1395
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:36,920
Speaker 1: I do think that that is, given how she performed

1396
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 1: in her last fight and just how fucking absolutely bearing

1397
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:45,160
Speaker 1: this division is in terms of anything interesting. But honestly, BC,

1398
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:47,520
Speaker 1: if I have to give you a real prediction, it's

1399
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:49,200
Speaker 1: that it's going to take a lot more than a

1400
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:52,400
Speaker 1: year to unfuck what you have going on there with

1401
01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:56,320
Speaker 1: how there's again not really any rivalries, not really any

1402
01:03:56,400 --> 01:04:00,360
Speaker 1: interesting compelling matchups. You do have individually talented fighters. You

1403
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:02,920
Speaker 1: do have individually great performance as hell d and a

1404
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:06,400
Speaker 1: al Donna after UFC two ninety six, pretty redemptive fight

1405
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 1: given the eggs she had laid against amand in Unas.

1406
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:12,680
Speaker 1: So it's not like there's nothing there but good Lord,

1407
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:15,680
Speaker 1: there's just not a lot. There's not a lot going

1408
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:20,240
Speaker 1: on in terms of exciting contenders, exciting matchups, exciting storylines,

1409
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:23,720
Speaker 1: And I don't think that just one year is actually

1410
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 1: going to be enough to get us to a place

1411
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:28,160
Speaker 1: because the problem is, no matter how far down the

1412
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:31,000
Speaker 1: list you look, you don't necessarily see a lot of

1413
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:33,960
Speaker 1: change on the horizon. That's not the case at all

1414
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:37,040
Speaker 1: for the other women's divisions, but it definitely isn't one

1415
01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:37,480
Speaker 1: thirty five.

1416
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:38,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's bad. I don't want to waste too much

1417
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:40,680
Speaker 2: time here, but I think al Donna's the fighter to

1418
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:42,720
Speaker 2: watch coming off of that brawl with host so to see,

1419
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:44,880
Speaker 2: she might be the best fighter in the division. Obviously,

1420
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:47,360
Speaker 2: I still want to respect Juliana Pina, who hasn't been back.

1421
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:49,880
Speaker 2: She's gonna need a big fight. We're gonna see if

1422
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:53,400
Speaker 2: Mara Buono Silva can get past Pennington. But my prediction

1423
01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:56,160
Speaker 2: is is kind of simple, Luke, and you stole a

1424
01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:58,440
Speaker 2: little bit about my thunder with Misha, But I've predicted

1425
01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:00,800
Speaker 2: this every year now for like forced straight years. I

1426
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:02,560
Speaker 2: think this is the last year I can get away

1427
01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:05,960
Speaker 2: with it. Get Ready, Holly Holm will fight for the

1428
01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 2: title for the last time in twenty twenty four. Luke,

1429
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:11,760
Speaker 2: it's gonna happen here. I mean, dude, what a shit

1430
01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:14,280
Speaker 2: division is there? Even there's no one thirty five in

1431
01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:16,160
Speaker 2: PFL or Belatore?

1432
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:22,000
Speaker 1: Right, Bellatore does carmusch that SE's twenty five doesn't beltor

1433
01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:22,840
Speaker 1: have Liz Carmush?

1434
01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:24,280
Speaker 2: Yeah one twenty five they do?

1435
01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:25,160
Speaker 1: Are you sure?

1436
01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 2: Yeah? She beat Velaskiz for the title. Yeah, oh yeah,

1437
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:32,000
Speaker 2: way yeah, all right, that wraps that up, Luke, nobody

1438
01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:35,040
Speaker 2: likes that division. Men's flyweight, though, is on fire and

1439
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:38,480
Speaker 2: it's wild, and Luke, we got a new champion that

1440
01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:40,760
Speaker 2: might have staying power. So you ready for a crazy

1441
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:43,920
Speaker 2: prediction from your boy BC. It feels easy to go with,

1442
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:47,400
Speaker 2: but he's won me over. Pantos is gonna go the

1443
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:51,240
Speaker 2: distance and end the year US champion, despite creeping up

1444
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:55,360
Speaker 2: in age and despite welcoming so much damage. Look, he

1445
01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:57,960
Speaker 2: is the right guy at the right time. Like Figaredo,

1446
01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:00,400
Speaker 2: where he's a dual threat furnisher and he's toughest nails.

1447
01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 2: He also makes the weight a little bit easier. I

1448
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:05,560
Speaker 2: just don't see anybody. I think kay car franz is

1449
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:07,680
Speaker 2: a is still a dark horse and one to watch,

1450
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:10,040
Speaker 2: But I don't see anybody that I'm like, they're going

1451
01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:11,600
Speaker 2: to take the belt from him. I don't see that

1452
01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:12,160
Speaker 2: guy right now.

1453
01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:13,640
Speaker 1: I'll tell you who that is. It's going to be

1454
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:17,280
Speaker 1: Brandon Moreno. Brandon Moreno's gonna have his hand. Brandon Moreno's

1455
01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:19,000
Speaker 1: gonna have his hands full with a mere el Bosi.

1456
01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:21,440
Speaker 1: I do think that is true. But I do think

1457
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:24,600
Speaker 1: he'll persevere. And if anyone has now, then know how.

1458
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:26,720
Speaker 1: And by the way, by the time Pantogi gets to

1459
01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:29,760
Speaker 1: another stiff challenge, I know, we keep saying, hey, you

1460
01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:31,520
Speaker 1: got to pay attention to how much damage he's taken,

1461
01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:34,280
Speaker 1: and he keeps on surviving, So what the hell do

1462
01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:36,800
Speaker 1: we know? But at some point that bill is going

1463
01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:39,120
Speaker 1: to come do you can only get away with a

1464
01:06:39,240 --> 01:06:41,640
Speaker 1: finite amount of that, and he is charging a lot

1465
01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:45,280
Speaker 1: on that credit card every time he competes again. The

1466
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:48,080
Speaker 1: Marina one was a unique circumstance, but I think Marino

1467
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:51,680
Speaker 1: actually has a resurgence here. Moreno's ability to show improvement

1468
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:57,000
Speaker 1: over time is very, very significant. I don't think he's

1469
01:06:57,080 --> 01:06:59,360
Speaker 1: done yet. He's still actually quite young. I do think

1470
01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:02,560
Speaker 1: he's got one. It's not infinite for him. Either, but

1471
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:06,120
Speaker 1: I think he's got one more gear left of development,

1472
01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:10,240
Speaker 1: really turning into something as polished as what he already

1473
01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:12,440
Speaker 1: has become, but then more so. And I think he's

1474
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:13,960
Speaker 1: gonna get his title back in twenty twenty.

1475
01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:16,400
Speaker 2: I think that's the opposite because he's not a finisher

1476
01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:18,440
Speaker 2: in terms of striking, Luke, I think it leads to

1477
01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:20,000
Speaker 2: him being in sustained wars.

1478
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:22,040
Speaker 1: He stopped KAIKR France recently.

1479
01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:24,520
Speaker 2: I respect that, I get that, but he's been in

1480
01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:28,080
Speaker 2: atno wars win or lose, including four straight against Figuredo.

1481
01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 2: I just think that age is gonna catch up with him,

1482
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:31,720
Speaker 2: and he's not a finisher on the feet, even though

1483
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:34,240
Speaker 2: he's got some submission wins there too. But we'll see

1484
01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:37,680
Speaker 2: what happens their fund division will see if the current

1485
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:41,720
Speaker 2: champ can stay the champ. Let's go over to women's flyweight. Wow, Luke,

1486
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:44,280
Speaker 2: I love this division and wow are there a lot

1487
01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:47,640
Speaker 2: of questions on top as we turn to the new year.

1488
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:51,840
Speaker 2: When you consider the risers like Manon Farroh and Aaron Blanchfield,

1489
01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:55,240
Speaker 2: and the fact that Valentino Chefchenko, the former champion, current

1490
01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:59,160
Speaker 2: champ Lex Sagrosso probably do need to see each other again, Luke,

1491
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 2: So where do you stand on either fight or to

1492
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 2: watch or a big prediction in this great division for

1493
01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:04,280
Speaker 2: the new year.

1494
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:08,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be the Aaron Blanchfield Division. Here she comes, folks,

1495
01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:10,520
Speaker 1: It's gonna be the Aaron Blanchfield Division. Now. I do

1496
01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:12,680
Speaker 1: want to see what happens between the Grosso and Chefchenko,

1497
01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 1: if they can make that happen again, and that might

1498
01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:16,840
Speaker 1: that might interrupt the calendar BC, because if they delay that,

1499
01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:19,120
Speaker 1: or they if they want to hold that for the

1500
01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:20,560
Speaker 1: next view. I mean I doubt they'll hold it for

1501
01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:22,559
Speaker 1: the next UFC, not cha, But if for some reason

1502
01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:26,040
Speaker 1: it pushes everything back, then it delays what Blanchfield will do.

1503
01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:29,120
Speaker 1: But she if I mean again, no one is truly

1504
01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:31,880
Speaker 1: inevitable in MMA, but if anyone is, it's got to

1505
01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:35,320
Speaker 1: be her. I think her level, she has real deficiencies.

1506
01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:38,280
Speaker 1: You know. For all the good about her, she's hard nosed,

1507
01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:41,559
Speaker 1: great wrestling, good top control, good boxing. She has shown

1508
01:08:41,840 --> 01:08:45,280
Speaker 1: in recent performances the ability to persevere, but she's taken

1509
01:08:45,360 --> 01:08:48,200
Speaker 1: big punches for extended periods of times. Like there's a

1510
01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:50,280
Speaker 1: lot of her striking defense that needs cleaning up, and

1511
01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:51,840
Speaker 1: there's a lot of polish on the ground that she

1512
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:56,160
Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily have, but the will bc, the will to

1513
01:08:56,439 --> 01:08:58,640
Speaker 1: hammer whoever is in front of her out of the

1514
01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:02,680
Speaker 1: way again, and she is also skilled. The two there, man,

1515
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:05,599
Speaker 1: they do a lot of work for her. I think

1516
01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:07,840
Speaker 1: it's her time. At one hundred and twenty five pounds.

1517
01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:12,800
Speaker 1: Shiftchenko is, you know, as good as everyone says she is,

1518
01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:16,400
Speaker 1: but older. I don't think that's unfair, and Grosso is

1519
01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:20,280
Speaker 1: super amazing. You can argue she should have lost the rematch,

1520
01:09:20,439 --> 01:09:24,120
Speaker 1: and I don't think the physical intensity she's going to

1521
01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:25,960
Speaker 1: be able to match Aaron Blanchel is going to be

1522
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:27,680
Speaker 1: hoisting gold by this time next year.

1523
01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:30,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, by the time she gets the chance, you're probably right.

1524
01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:34,759
Speaker 2: But before she gets the chance, if my big prediction

1525
01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:37,280
Speaker 2: might come true, Luke, I doubted it as you did.

1526
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:40,439
Speaker 2: Can Valatina Shanchenko come back and climb that mountain in

1527
01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:43,559
Speaker 2: the rematch against Grosso? She actually did, Luke, And if

1528
01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:45,439
Speaker 2: they didn't screw her on that ten eight round, right,

1529
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:48,920
Speaker 2: she would have won back the championship. So you get

1530
01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:51,160
Speaker 2: the feeling that they're probably gonna do a trilogy here,

1531
01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:54,639
Speaker 2: and I just think if anybody can do what Devison

1532
01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:56,679
Speaker 2: Figaredo did a couple of years ago at thirty four

1533
01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:59,719
Speaker 2: at Flyway Men's Flyway come back and win the title

1534
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:03,639
Speaker 2: Advanced Age, and in this case, because Cheffchenko was already

1535
01:10:03,680 --> 01:10:06,960
Speaker 2: thirty five, would add her name to the vaunted Luke

1536
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:10,439
Speaker 2: Thomas stat of doom that only Tyron Woodley has been

1537
01:10:10,479 --> 01:10:14,160
Speaker 2: able to stand back and stiff arm and win a

1538
01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:17,639
Speaker 2: battle against Father Time. Luke, they say Father Times undefeated.

1539
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:20,440
Speaker 2: We don't know much about Mother Time. So you know what, Chefchenko,

1540
01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:23,760
Speaker 2: I think she gets the belt back. With the fact

1541
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:26,519
Speaker 2: that Blanchefield's coming on, I got the same questions as

1542
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:28,680
Speaker 2: to who will end the year, but I predict that

1543
01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:32,479
Speaker 2: Valentine if Chefchenko scores one of the most impressive old

1544
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:35,680
Speaker 2: person fighter wins, you know, old meeting thirty five for

1545
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:39,200
Speaker 2: a career mixed martial artist who lives this, Yeah, I

1546
01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:41,599
Speaker 2: think she can dip back into the bag one more time.

1547
01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:44,200
Speaker 2: She proved me wrong in that rematch when she came

1548
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:46,760
Speaker 2: as close as she did. My fighters to watch both

1549
01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:49,160
Speaker 2: have the last name of Silva. Luke. You know, I

1550
01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:52,920
Speaker 2: like Natalia Silva's kickboxing game, the high pressure, but I

1551
01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:55,920
Speaker 2: think maybe even Kaarne Silva has a higher upside because

1552
01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:58,720
Speaker 2: she's more of a finisher. Either way, both of those

1553
01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:01,800
Speaker 2: two Brazilian fighters are part this next new generation that's

1554
01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:04,439
Speaker 2: turning over at one twenty five and it's more than

1555
01:11:04,520 --> 01:11:06,840
Speaker 2: fun to watch. So this division is gonna be great.

1556
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:10,559
Speaker 2: There's old, new, and in between. We'll see very quickly,

1557
01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:10,960
Speaker 2: very quickly.

1558
01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:13,439
Speaker 1: I'll add Macy Barbera to that list, who I thought

1559
01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:16,759
Speaker 1: at times, you know, there were some hiccups in her development,

1560
01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:20,240
Speaker 1: but more recently has looked better than ever. She's got

1561
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:21,880
Speaker 1: a big year with big fights in front of her

1562
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:24,080
Speaker 1: as well. Pay attention. She could do something special this

1563
01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:24,599
Speaker 1: year as well.

1564
01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:27,920
Speaker 2: Luke one hundred and fifteen pounds women strawweights. Such a

1565
01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:31,000
Speaker 2: great division and it's our final one of this look

1566
01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:34,120
Speaker 2: ahead for the new year. So Luke Jiuogwei Lee is

1567
01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:38,040
Speaker 2: your champion once again. But there's some inevita. There's at

1568
01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:41,080
Speaker 2: least one inevitable fighter that's knocking on that door. Where

1569
01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:42,960
Speaker 2: are you looking for the new year? What's gonna happen?

1570
01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:45,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, what's up with Tatianasuarez? Right? I mean that's

1571
01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:49,160
Speaker 1: the whole story for me. Now getting to a they

1572
01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:52,639
Speaker 1: if the UFC ends up going with with Joang Wui

1573
01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:55,360
Speaker 1: Lee and Yan Cha Nan in China. That is the

1574
01:11:55,479 --> 01:11:58,679
Speaker 1: story itself, because opening that market is going to be huge.

1575
01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:01,200
Speaker 1: Opening that market with the women's fight in twenty twenty

1576
01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:04,160
Speaker 1: four is like a remarkable feat that in all of sports,

1577
01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:06,080
Speaker 1: to be quite honest, like that's a very difficult thing

1578
01:12:06,160 --> 01:12:08,280
Speaker 1: to do. Like think about, like, what's the first like

1579
01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:12,000
Speaker 1: really big fight between two Chinese nationals in China on

1580
01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:14,439
Speaker 1: assuming that they put it on paper view or something

1581
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:16,640
Speaker 1: like that, some big show like that. You want to

1582
01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:18,680
Speaker 1: do that? One right to do that with two of

1583
01:12:18,760 --> 01:12:21,640
Speaker 1: the smallest, the smallest the overall smallest division you have,

1584
01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:24,240
Speaker 1: and then the smallest obviously among the women, that's a

1585
01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:26,920
Speaker 1: that's an interesting thing in combat sports, and it's an

1586
01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:29,240
Speaker 1: interesting thing that I made, I think, frankly to brag about.

1587
01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:35,120
Speaker 1: But putting that aside for just a minute worth examining disruptors,

1588
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:37,560
Speaker 1: who could disrupt the party, who could come through and

1589
01:12:37,640 --> 01:12:40,599
Speaker 1: crash it. We didn't even know if she was going

1590
01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:42,640
Speaker 1: to be able to return to the octagon with what

1591
01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:45,400
Speaker 1: was that a three or four year layoff BC. I

1592
01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:48,160
Speaker 1: remember interviewing her before the layoff and everyone at the

1593
01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:51,280
Speaker 1: time and it was, you know, somewhat exaggerated, but they

1594
01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:54,200
Speaker 1: were calling her the female Habib. The female Habib was

1595
01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:57,880
Speaker 1: what all the conversation was about. And so has she

1596
01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:00,920
Speaker 1: gotten back to that, not necessarily, but she's looked really good.

1597
01:13:01,280 --> 01:13:04,400
Speaker 1: Her last fight in particular, was very strong. If she's

1598
01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:07,000
Speaker 1: gonna make a move, clock is ticking because she's just

1599
01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:09,800
Speaker 1: missed so much time. Dude, she's ready.

1600
01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:10,519
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1601
01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:12,400
Speaker 1: I don't know if she's gonna wear gold, but I

1602
01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:15,759
Speaker 1: think what her story is, wherever she goes, the division

1603
01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:18,320
Speaker 1: will probably go. You'll learn, you'll know what's gonna happen

1604
01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:21,599
Speaker 1: based off of her performances. A big year for her.

1605
01:13:22,200 --> 01:13:26,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that seems to be an inevitable feeling. And eventually

1606
01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:27,760
Speaker 2: when she if she does face the winner of a

1607
01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:30,760
Speaker 2: Young versus shaw Nan, it's gonna be a hell of

1608
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:32,360
Speaker 2: a fight to see her try to climb that mountain.

1609
01:13:32,360 --> 01:13:34,560
Speaker 2: She's probably gonna have to win one. In between. What

1610
01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:37,080
Speaker 2: I'm gonna predict here, Luke is unfortunately, I always said

1611
01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:39,599
Speaker 2: Mackenzie during his nine lives, and I've tried to fight

1612
01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:42,200
Speaker 2: that battle that Look, there's still time, but Luke, I

1613
01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:43,840
Speaker 2: think she's run out of a lot of lives, and

1614
01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:47,360
Speaker 2: I think the fallout of the most recent disappointing step

1615
01:13:47,479 --> 01:13:49,760
Speaker 2: up that should have been the one that lifted Duran

1616
01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:53,000
Speaker 2: finally into the title picture, the true core of the

1617
01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:55,599
Speaker 2: title picture in UFC, a chance to really find out

1618
01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:58,200
Speaker 2: how marketable she could be. What we saw was that,

1619
01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:00,840
Speaker 2: you know, she cut ties with j Pirello when the

1620
01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:03,960
Speaker 2: gym closed down, and suddenly her corner was chaos, and Luke,

1621
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:06,320
Speaker 2: we've subsequently found out that you know, you don't really

1622
01:14:06,560 --> 01:14:08,320
Speaker 2: It's hard to tell from the inside out, But is

1623
01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:10,800
Speaker 2: her dad a great influence as a cornerman? Is the

1624
01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:14,000
Speaker 2: new boyfriend that she's rumored to be dating and living

1625
01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:17,320
Speaker 2: with that's now her coach? Is that guy a good choice? Look,

1626
01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:19,800
Speaker 2: it seems to be like there's a lot of chaos

1627
01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:23,000
Speaker 2: around her constantly, whether that's her fault or not. The

1628
01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:25,200
Speaker 2: fall out of her divorce still seems to think be

1629
01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:27,120
Speaker 2: a big thing on her mind. And while that may

1630
01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:30,680
Speaker 2: have fueled or passed angela Hill, that's also a fight

1631
01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:33,400
Speaker 2: she should have dominated over five rounds and looked the

1632
01:14:33,439 --> 01:14:37,240
Speaker 2: way she did. Luke, I, my doubts are have never

1633
01:14:37,320 --> 01:14:39,560
Speaker 2: been higher. Everyone like you who said, look, you know

1634
01:14:39,680 --> 01:14:41,880
Speaker 2: you can like certain parts of her game. But unless

1635
01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:45,200
Speaker 2: these foundational elements get fixed, she's got issues. You know.

1636
01:14:45,240 --> 01:14:46,800
Speaker 2: I would always tell you to pack that up and

1637
01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:49,960
Speaker 2: sit on it, Luke, because my feelings, my vibes are

1638
01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:53,240
Speaker 2: telling me that she still can be dominant. But Luke,

1639
01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:55,599
Speaker 2: I'm starting to wonder for real if she's the problem.

1640
01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:59,200
Speaker 2: The relationships that she encounters, the way she prioritizes her

1641
01:14:59,200 --> 01:15:03,000
Speaker 2: own need for for training and instruction, there's a major disconnect.

1642
01:15:03,040 --> 01:15:04,960
Speaker 2: It's been there all along, it's still there in a

1643
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:07,160
Speaker 2: big way. I don't think she gets over the hump

1644
01:15:07,240 --> 01:15:09,080
Speaker 2: and has a big year. I think it's gonna be

1645
01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:12,200
Speaker 2: a continuation of one step forward, one step back, and

1646
01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:14,000
Speaker 2: we're gonna reset at the end of the next year

1647
01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:16,240
Speaker 2: and talk about her age and talk about whether she

1648
01:15:16,320 --> 01:15:18,599
Speaker 2: can finally get it. But I don't think she gets there.

1649
01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:20,400
Speaker 2: That's the new thing. And I hate to say that

1650
01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:22,080
Speaker 2: because I've always been a big fan of the game

1651
01:15:22,439 --> 01:15:24,760
Speaker 2: that she brings in, the toughness and all that. But

1652
01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:27,439
Speaker 2: you gotta have all things working for you, Luke, and

1653
01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:29,519
Speaker 2: you can't drive a car with a flat tire, and

1654
01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:32,800
Speaker 2: it's just not working out for her. My fighter to watch, though, Luke,

1655
01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:38,959
Speaker 2: interestingly enough in this division. Is though, can karely nikovil

1656
01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:43,599
Speaker 2: Kayevitch continue this second and third tier wind streak when

1657
01:15:43,640 --> 01:15:45,439
Speaker 2: she had lost what like five or six in a

1658
01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:47,880
Speaker 2: row and we considered her, you know, the old guard,

1659
01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:51,160
Speaker 2: and now she can't stop winning against a certain level

1660
01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:53,800
Speaker 2: of competition. I want to see if this fun story

1661
01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:56,360
Speaker 2: could continue in the new year, and how much, how far,

1662
01:15:56,520 --> 01:15:58,920
Speaker 2: how far she can actually go. It reminds me of

1663
01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:01,400
Speaker 2: that big win streak and Andrea Alowski had a couple

1664
01:16:01,439 --> 01:16:04,640
Speaker 2: of years ago where he was actually becoming an outside

1665
01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:07,880
Speaker 2: quasi title threat once again. I don't have high hopes

1666
01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:11,040
Speaker 2: for kk Luke. She's old school with an old style game,

1667
01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:14,400
Speaker 2: but her ability to reset her career and find new

1668
01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:16,559
Speaker 2: life has been fun and interesting to watch for one

1669
01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:18,720
Speaker 2: of the old guard. I'll be watching closely again in

1670
01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:20,920
Speaker 2: the new year. I know you couldn't care less, Luke.

1671
01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:22,040
Speaker 1: No, I definitely couldn't.

1672
01:16:22,880 --> 01:16:25,040
Speaker 2: All right, well, Luke, we have just enough minutes here

1673
01:16:25,080 --> 01:16:27,960
Speaker 2: in time, unless you have any other strawweight do you

1674
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:28,599
Speaker 2: want to talk about?

1675
01:16:28,720 --> 01:16:31,280
Speaker 1: No, I'm good on that. My pants are not around

1676
01:16:31,320 --> 01:16:31,799
Speaker 1: my ankles.

1677
01:16:32,240 --> 01:16:35,600
Speaker 2: Just disgusting to even think about, Luke. General predictions in

1678
01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:39,879
Speaker 2: MMA for the new year. Now you have been flaunting

1679
01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:42,679
Speaker 2: all show a big one that I'll be unhappy about.

1680
01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:46,040
Speaker 2: Does this related to Johanna or Rose just to prepare me.

1681
01:16:46,240 --> 01:16:49,439
Speaker 1: No, it's related to neither. Do well. The biggest story

1682
01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:51,920
Speaker 1: you think about, like, what was the biggest story this year?

1683
01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:53,640
Speaker 1: Maybe France is going to the PFL. That was a

1684
01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:56,360
Speaker 1: big one, right, Yeah, so how that continues will be

1685
01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:59,400
Speaker 1: a big story next year, dude. I mean the fighter

1686
01:16:59,479 --> 01:17:02,040
Speaker 1: lawsuits is scheduled to go to trial in April for

1687
01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:03,920
Speaker 1: crying out loud. I mean, I don't know how it

1688
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:07,080
Speaker 1: gets any bigger than that. So that's a huge story

1689
01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:10,160
Speaker 1: something to pay attention to. There's ones that where all

1690
01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:11,680
Speaker 1: my attention is going to be. But I mean that

1691
01:17:12,080 --> 01:17:15,000
Speaker 1: is that's going to be can't miss stuff. But I

1692
01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:16,880
Speaker 1: got to tell you, man, I'm getting some weird vibes

1693
01:17:16,920 --> 01:17:20,400
Speaker 1: and I think you are as well. So there was

1694
01:17:20,479 --> 01:17:23,160
Speaker 1: that article on the reporting of One's finances that said

1695
01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:25,000
Speaker 1: they were going to run out of money basically and

1696
01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:28,360
Speaker 1: runway in twenty twenty four. More recently, and it's due

1697
01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:30,960
Speaker 1: to what has happened with Belatore. Bellatore had an economy

1698
01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:33,479
Speaker 1: basically had an annual budget of forty million that they

1699
01:17:33,479 --> 01:17:36,160
Speaker 1: would pay out to fighters in like the whole year.

1700
01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:37,360
Speaker 1: I mean that's a or. You know, there was a

1701
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:39,280
Speaker 1: forty million operational costs, but a lot of that would

1702
01:17:39,280 --> 01:17:43,120
Speaker 1: go to fighter salary, and so you know, you lose that,

1703
01:17:43,360 --> 01:17:45,439
Speaker 1: and that's a lot of money being taken out of

1704
01:17:45,439 --> 01:17:46,960
Speaker 1: the economy. I know they're going to have eight events,

1705
01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:49,040
Speaker 1: but that's not I mean, they were doing more than

1706
01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:52,320
Speaker 1: twenty I think close to thirty basically for the most part.

1707
01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:54,920
Speaker 1: So you're losing a lot there, and I understand it.

1708
01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:59,040
Speaker 1: But you know, also like you don't hear a lot

1709
01:17:59,120 --> 01:18:02,679
Speaker 1: of fighters come plaining publicly about one because their contracts

1710
01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:05,839
Speaker 1: are so restrictive. I feel like they might view retaliation

1711
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:08,439
Speaker 1: as a problem. But I can tell you privately, you

1712
01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:11,320
Speaker 1: hear a lot of complaints, a lot of complaints and

1713
01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:15,880
Speaker 1: not just I don't like this, but also how poor

1714
01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:18,479
Speaker 1: the pay is. Right, we all focus on UFC because

1715
01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:20,640
Speaker 1: that is where the dominant amount of money is made by.

1716
01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:23,720
Speaker 1: You know, ninety cents of every dollar in the industry

1717
01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:26,519
Speaker 1: is taken by UFC. Like there's just not much money

1718
01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:30,720
Speaker 1: left for anybody else here is basically what my I

1719
01:18:30,760 --> 01:18:33,040
Speaker 1: don't know if you know give we're doing predictions, I'll

1720
01:18:33,080 --> 01:18:36,800
Speaker 1: give you the best I can. One might be here

1721
01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:40,759
Speaker 1: at the end of twenty twenty one, but barely barely.

1722
01:18:40,840 --> 01:18:42,760
Speaker 1: I think that this is the make or break year

1723
01:18:42,840 --> 01:18:46,320
Speaker 1: for them. Either something will happen in the industry that

1724
01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:49,280
Speaker 1: allows them to get acquired somewhere, or they sell, or

1725
01:18:49,360 --> 01:18:51,479
Speaker 1: you know, there's some kind of real change of hands,

1726
01:18:51,720 --> 01:18:53,800
Speaker 1: but they can say, hey, victory declare and we can

1727
01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:57,880
Speaker 1: move on in a new system or format, or what

1728
01:18:58,040 --> 01:19:01,960
Speaker 1: you have been witnessing will eventually just go away. And

1729
01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:04,040
Speaker 1: this year it looks like it's going to be the

1730
01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:08,240
Speaker 1: test case. I'm hearing too many bad things from too

1731
01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:11,840
Speaker 1: many different directions to think that there's not more than

1732
01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:14,960
Speaker 1: just smoke. There's fire here probably as well.

1733
01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:20,080
Speaker 2: Does the new season of Survivor won championship editions ratings

1734
01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:23,240
Speaker 2: play into this at all, whether they will be able to.

1735
01:19:23,280 --> 01:19:28,360
Speaker 1: Do they were number one in Singapore for a single week. Yeah, congratulations, Yeah, yeah,

1736
01:19:28,439 --> 01:19:29,320
Speaker 1: that was great.

1737
01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:33,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, interesting prediction there, Luke. It's hard to

1738
01:19:33,720 --> 01:19:36,920
Speaker 2: predict here looking ahead. But I wonder for Francis and

1739
01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:39,439
Speaker 2: Gone and Luke because when the PFL and Don Davis

1740
01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:42,120
Speaker 2: on Aerial Show did say like they hoped to roll

1741
01:19:42,160 --> 01:19:46,320
Speaker 2: out the Bellator PFL supercard in like February, ideally get

1742
01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:50,280
Speaker 2: Francis making his debut in the first half a first quarter,

1743
01:19:50,439 --> 01:19:52,920
Speaker 2: actually hoping it would be Deontay Wilder, and then they

1744
01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:56,559
Speaker 2: wanted to close twenty twenty four by getting that Jake

1745
01:19:56,640 --> 01:19:59,840
Speaker 2: Paul MMA fight that they were guaranteed, and Don kept saying, look, man,

1746
01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:02,160
Speaker 2: you know, Jake told me he needs a year to train,

1747
01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:06,479
Speaker 2: so I'm gonna give him that. But Luke, other factors

1748
01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:10,320
Speaker 2: may play in there that that really could prevent PFL

1749
01:20:10,439 --> 01:20:12,160
Speaker 2: from from getting its paper.

1750
01:20:12,240 --> 01:20:12,360
Speaker 1: Now.

1751
01:20:12,439 --> 01:20:14,519
Speaker 2: Look, they're trying to do three things at once. They're

1752
01:20:14,560 --> 01:20:17,280
Speaker 2: trying to reinvent Belatour, they're trying to do their regular

1753
01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:20,519
Speaker 2: season tournament championship format, and they're trying to launch a

1754
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:22,800
Speaker 2: pay per view division, or really what that means is

1755
01:20:22,880 --> 01:20:25,720
Speaker 2: they want to launch two pay per views. But Luke,

1756
01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:28,479
Speaker 2: Jake paulis not talking about MMA anymore. All right. I

1757
01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:30,519
Speaker 2: know he signed a deal, I know this is the plan,

1758
01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:33,040
Speaker 2: But this guy's talking about taking a bunch of boxing

1759
01:20:33,080 --> 01:20:36,639
Speaker 2: fights against prospects and building toward an inevitable title shot.

1760
01:20:36,680 --> 01:20:38,519
Speaker 2: And on the flip side, you know, I just talked

1761
01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:41,880
Speaker 2: to Anthony I'm sorry, Deontay Wilder ahead of this Rick's

1762
01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:44,679
Speaker 2: return right before Christmas, and you know he was hoping

1763
01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:49,439
Speaker 2: to beat Joseph Parker, fite Anthony Joshua in February or March.

1764
01:20:50,080 --> 01:20:52,320
Speaker 2: And then you know he said, look, if a PFL

1765
01:20:52,400 --> 01:20:54,600
Speaker 2: fight comes around and it could be made, maybe, but

1766
01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:58,160
Speaker 2: you know, I'm not making that priority, Luke, to some degree,

1767
01:20:58,720 --> 01:21:02,080
Speaker 2: if you're telling me right now that Francis is getting

1768
01:21:02,120 --> 01:21:04,760
Speaker 2: Wilder and Jake will fight, I'll say, Okay, they got

1769
01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:07,280
Speaker 2: a fighting chance to do the big type of you know,

1770
01:21:07,479 --> 01:21:09,760
Speaker 2: impact that PFL is trying to make next year and

1771
01:21:09,880 --> 01:21:13,200
Speaker 2: in legitimately trying to compete head to head for the UFC.

1772
01:21:14,040 --> 01:21:16,080
Speaker 2: But Luke, pay per view and the success of it

1773
01:21:16,280 --> 01:21:19,679
Speaker 2: and getting people to have to see these must see events,

1774
01:21:20,080 --> 01:21:22,640
Speaker 2: that's gonna matter in that transaction. In fact, you can

1775
01:21:22,720 --> 01:21:26,400
Speaker 2: argue it's gonna matter the most. So you mentioned that

1776
01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:29,360
Speaker 2: there's a way that the Pachaco versus Cyborg fight could

1777
01:21:29,560 --> 01:21:33,160
Speaker 2: kill the overall effectiveness of what we've wanted, which is

1778
01:21:33,400 --> 01:21:37,000
Speaker 2: Kayla versus Cyborg, New Generation versus old Generation. Okay, what

1779
01:21:37,120 --> 01:21:41,000
Speaker 2: if that happens, and what if Wilder's not available for Francis,

1780
01:21:41,400 --> 01:21:43,800
Speaker 2: and what if Francis gets the call from Saudi for

1781
01:21:43,960 --> 01:21:47,000
Speaker 2: a huge boxing fight, and what if Jake Paul stays

1782
01:21:47,120 --> 01:21:49,640
Speaker 2: doing what he's doing. All I'm saying is here is

1783
01:21:49,760 --> 01:21:52,280
Speaker 2: I've had optimism for PFL to come out in the

1784
01:21:52,320 --> 01:21:54,040
Speaker 2: new year and swing big and at least have a

1785
01:21:54,160 --> 01:21:57,320
Speaker 2: fighting shot at doing what they're saying. But Luke, they

1786
01:21:57,640 --> 01:22:00,920
Speaker 2: need need, in my opinion, those paview main events to

1787
01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:04,200
Speaker 2: get made and to hit big, or it's going to

1788
01:22:04,280 --> 01:22:07,120
Speaker 2: be hard for them to invade this top tier of

1789
01:22:07,200 --> 01:22:10,920
Speaker 2: global MMA promotion the way they want to. Because let's

1790
01:22:10,920 --> 01:22:14,120
Speaker 2: ask ourselves, who else is Francis gonna fight right now?

1791
01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:16,760
Speaker 2: Right Like, Yeah, you could get a certain second rate

1792
01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:19,720
Speaker 2: heavyweight that would at least be a place filler and

1793
01:22:19,760 --> 01:22:22,519
Speaker 2: we could see Francis return at MMA, But that's not

1794
01:22:22,600 --> 01:22:25,559
Speaker 2: what they want. They want big time freak show, must

1795
01:22:25,640 --> 01:22:29,439
Speaker 2: see Francis versus Deontay Wilder. They can't get that. And

1796
01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:32,479
Speaker 2: if Jake isn't on schedule they want, I don't know

1797
01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:34,519
Speaker 2: who else they're gonna put on pay per view next year.

1798
01:22:35,000 --> 01:22:38,160
Speaker 2: And that's that's really a prediction, not a prediction, but

1799
01:22:38,240 --> 01:22:40,519
Speaker 2: something I'm nervous for them that I need to see

1800
01:22:40,640 --> 01:22:43,040
Speaker 2: play out, because if you don't have these bookend pay

1801
01:22:43,080 --> 01:22:46,040
Speaker 2: per view events that rock the world and get people's attention,

1802
01:22:46,720 --> 01:22:48,040
Speaker 2: what do you have, Luke? You got a lot of

1803
01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:50,200
Speaker 2: quarterbacks in that system. Who's the starter?

1804
01:22:50,400 --> 01:22:53,400
Speaker 1: You're right, A cage that's very, very intelligent.

1805
01:22:53,200 --> 01:22:55,240
Speaker 2: Really smart cage right there? Do you have any of

1806
01:22:55,280 --> 01:22:56,599
Speaker 2: My other prediction is this, Luke.

1807
01:22:58,520 --> 01:23:00,200
Speaker 1: You're gonna go over the alloted time that we have.

1808
01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:02,479
Speaker 2: After a year off, we come back and we win

1809
01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:05,040
Speaker 2: best MMA programming at the World. I'm in Mayo war

1810
01:23:05,280 --> 01:23:08,960
Speaker 2: he from Dana White Contender series. We hold off the

1811
01:23:09,040 --> 01:23:11,439
Speaker 2: aggressive competition that we normally face from the likes of

1812
01:23:11,479 --> 01:23:14,560
Speaker 2: Aia Hawane Rogan. I'm sorry Rogan at times, Anak and

1813
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:17,439
Speaker 2: Florian respect to all those great shows. But what we

1814
01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:19,960
Speaker 2: have planned in twenty four in the MMA and boxing

1815
01:23:20,000 --> 01:23:22,439
Speaker 2: space and the Dick joke space for you here on

1816
01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:25,920
Speaker 2: Morning Combat, it's next level. It's gonna take a little

1817
01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:28,400
Speaker 2: bit to come level Dick Jokes, but by the end

1818
01:23:28,479 --> 01:23:31,240
Speaker 2: of next year, you guys will know who the best

1819
01:23:31,320 --> 01:23:35,760
Speaker 2: damn combat sports show period really is. Okay, So that's

1820
01:23:35,840 --> 01:23:38,439
Speaker 2: not a prediction, Luke, as Paul Hayman would say, it's

1821
01:23:38,479 --> 01:23:39,040
Speaker 2: a spoiler.

1822
01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:41,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go. Also, we didn't. It's kind of funny.

1823
01:23:42,240 --> 01:23:44,000
Speaker 1: This is like the W was the last time we

1824
01:23:44,040 --> 01:23:46,200
Speaker 1: did a prediction show. We didn't mention Nate Diaz. We

1825
01:23:46,240 --> 01:23:48,760
Speaker 1: didn't really you briefly touched on Conna MacGregor, but we

1826
01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:51,120
Speaker 1: didn't really have a lot of Connor regregor discussion. That

1827
01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:52,720
Speaker 1: hasn't happened in quite some time. I don't have much

1828
01:23:52,760 --> 01:23:55,840
Speaker 1: more to add to it than that. Again, the anti

1829
01:23:55,880 --> 01:23:58,360
Speaker 1: trust case is just the most monumental thing that could

1830
01:23:58,439 --> 01:24:00,720
Speaker 1: happen one way or the other. So we'll be paying

1831
01:24:00,720 --> 01:24:02,280
Speaker 1: attention to that. It should be a fun year, and

1832
01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:07,280
Speaker 1: yes for you and me, knock on wood. Hopefully, hopefully

1833
01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:09,080
Speaker 1: we get to do everything that we think we will

1834
01:24:09,120 --> 01:24:10,400
Speaker 1: be able to do. I guess we'll see.

1835
01:24:10,760 --> 01:24:13,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do it. Let's stay together. Let's not break up, Luke, Okay,

1836
01:24:13,720 --> 01:24:16,080
Speaker 2: let's keep this together. We'll find out what happens in enemy.

1837
01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:18,440
Speaker 1: We'll keep alive, this sexless marriage.

1838
01:24:18,320 --> 01:24:19,960
Speaker 2: That's what I'm talking about. At least now I have

1839
01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:22,320
Speaker 2: two of them. Luke, let's let's shout out Mikey mormol

1840
01:24:22,400 --> 01:24:24,760
Speaker 2: on the ones and choos the CBS Sports and let's

1841
01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:28,160
Speaker 2: tell you folks, enjoy yourselves this new Year's Let's be safe. Well,

1842
01:24:28,240 --> 01:24:30,240
Speaker 2: let's get excited for a new year for all of us,

1843
01:24:30,320 --> 01:24:33,559
Speaker 2: for this show, for your health, for your mental health.

1844
01:24:33,640 --> 01:24:36,120
Speaker 2: Let's do it, folks, big year to come. We hope

1845
01:24:36,160 --> 01:24:39,280
Speaker 2: you are enjoying your holiday break. This has been Luke

1846
01:24:39,320 --> 01:24:42,519
Speaker 2: Thomas and Brian Campbell of Morning Combat. Luke Thomas, you

1847
01:24:42,680 --> 01:24:45,000
Speaker 2: get the last word. Entering the new year.

1848
01:24:45,080 --> 01:24:48,960
Speaker 1: Hey, Happy holidays, Merry Christmas, Kwanza, Hanukah, all that fun stuff.

1849
01:24:49,000 --> 01:24:51,400
Speaker 1: Happy New Year. Don't drink and drive call Uber and

1850
01:24:51,439 --> 01:24:54,280
Speaker 1: if you can't, just walk, don't do anything stupid. We'll

1851
01:24:54,280 --> 01:24:56,320
Speaker 1: see you, Jibroni's I know we have shows after this,

1852
01:24:56,400 --> 01:24:57,759
Speaker 1: but I just want to say we'll see you Gerronis

1853
01:24:57,920 --> 01:25:00,559
Speaker 1: obviously next year as well. Be there for the MKA experience.

1854
01:25:00,640 --> 01:25:03,360
Speaker 1: For the King of CTE. I'm the King of d C.

1855
01:25:03,840 --> 01:25:08,439
Speaker 1: Two kings out of here, MK, We're done, Peace, smell

1856
01:25:08,479 --> 01:25:09,839
Speaker 1: your gains. Be loyal, bitches,