1 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: Welcome to another Tuesday edition of the From the Podium podcast. 2 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 2: I'm Gabe Kolea. 3 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: The Browns have their usual Tuesday off day today and 4 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: they'll return to the Cross Country Mortgage Campus tomorrow to 5 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: begin prep for their second showed out of the year 6 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: with the Cincinnati Bengals. On this episode, you'll hear from 7 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: head coach Kevin Stefanski, running back to Rome Ford, and 8 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:24,119 Speaker 1: safety Rodney McLeod. We start with head coach Kevin Stefanski, 9 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: who took questions on the Bengals and more. 10 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 3: Okay, injury update, no real updates from yesterday. Like I 11 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 3: told you guys, obviously, you know, disappointed for Nick, but 12 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 3: I know he'll bounce back and he'll attack his rehab. 13 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 3: So with the game, obviously feel the same way as 14 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 3: I felt yesterday, really disappointed in turning the ball over 15 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 3: six times. You are not going to beat anybody doing that. 16 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 3: So unfortunately, there's some good things that occurred during that game, 17 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 3: particularly our defense. I thought played really really good football 18 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 3: for the majority of the game. But unfortunately, we just 19 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 3: as a team didn't do all those little things that 20 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 3: you need to do in order to beat a good team. 21 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 3: So that's where our focus will be I'll take any 22 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 3: questions you guys. 23 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 4: Got hey, Kevin, what are you gonna do quarterback against 24 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 4: the Mangles? 25 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're still putting this game to bed, so anything 26 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 3: related to Bank Cincinnati, I'll update you guys as we 27 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 3: get into the week. 28 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 5: All right. 29 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 4: And then with Nick, do you know if he's in 30 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 4: any surgery? 31 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 3: I don't know that just yet. Yeah, I don't believe so. 32 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 4: Okay, in like recovery time. Do you know how long? 33 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not only it's a shorter term recovery time, 34 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 3: but obviously we're gonna lose him for the. 35 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 4: Season, right, And just with him, Kevin, did you see 36 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 4: I know it's such a tough knee injury, but did 37 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 4: you see signs of him kind of rounding into the 38 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 4: form that we're so used to seeing? Is the season 39 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 4: went along? 40 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think certainly if you saw Nick 41 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 3: get some really had some really big plays for us 42 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 3: this season. Think about some of the runs near the 43 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 3: goal line where he put his head down and powered through, 44 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 3: including in the games where he just got back out there. 45 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 3: So I can't say it enough how impressive it was 46 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 3: to watch him get back for this season, going all 47 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 3: the way back. I still have the video of him 48 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 3: running the hills at the Greenbrier and just the guy 49 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 3: is so determined, so very very disappointed for how you know, 50 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 3: with yesterday and him having that unfortunate injury, but it 51 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 3: can't take away from what he was able to accomplish 52 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 3: this season. 53 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, Kevin, when we talked to Jamis after the game, 54 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 6: we went over some of the interceptions and you know, 55 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 6: the one went off in Nick's hands and then he 56 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 6: described what happened with you know, the receiver thinking he 57 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 6: was throwing it to someone else on the third one. 58 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 6: The question is do some of those things factor into 59 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 6: your decision on what you're going to do. And then 60 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 6: also the fact that a guy like Jerry Judy has 61 00:02:56,040 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 6: absolutely flourished and thrived with Jamis, you know, would that 62 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 6: be another thing that you would take into consideration. 63 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 3: I think with any decision, Mary Kay, you take everything 64 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 3: into consideration. Certainly, so we need to work through all 65 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,959 Speaker 3: those type of things, but ultimately we want to do 66 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 3: what's best for the team. 67 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 6: But with Jamis's interceptions, I mean, do you feel like, 68 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 6: I mean, does he have a point? I mean some 69 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 6: of them have gone to Elijah Moore, where you know, 70 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 6: Elijah really hasn't done very well on the jump balls 71 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 6: this year, per se. I think he's way up there 72 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 6: in terms of passes intended for him. I mean, how 73 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 6: do you feel about Jamis's interceptions in total? 74 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would tell you Mary Kay, and we kind 75 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 3: of talked about this last week. You really treat each 76 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 3: each play as its own entity, if you will, and 77 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 3: you make sure that you coach a player up on 78 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 3: every single play. So on plays where you have an 79 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 3: interception or a missed assignment or whatever it may be, 80 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 3: you just try to learn from every single one of those, 81 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 3: and they're all different. So that's what we're continuing to do. 82 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 3: I think just sitting with the quarterbacks and going over 83 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 3: those plays, I think it's good for everybody to learn 84 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 3: from them, particularly when you feel like you can maybe 85 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 3: make a better decision, have better technique, whatever it may be. 86 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 7: I guess I was going to ask you a similar question, Kevin. 87 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 7: As a coach who has been around quarterbacks basically your 88 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 7: whole career, what teaching points can you give a quarterback 89 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 7: to be more careful with the ball. 90 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 3: I think, ultimately, Jeff, you certainly are playing in a 91 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 3: position where you're making decisions seventy times a game, and 92 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:41,119 Speaker 3: you have to trust what you see, if to trust 93 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 3: in your technique. And certainly we know that a big 94 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 3: part of winning and losing in football is taking care 95 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 3: of the ball. We get that. We also know that 96 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 3: you have to play a style of football that gives 97 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 3: yourself a chance to make your art. So there are 98 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 3: times that you're aggressive, there's times that you're not based 99 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 3: on what the situation is, maybe based on what the 100 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 3: route concept is and those type of things. So I 101 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 3: think you coach all of that up constantly, Jeff, and 102 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 3: we're trying to play that game where we take care 103 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 3: of the ball and you find a way to win. 104 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 3: But it's always gonna be something that's important to winning 105 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 3: and losing in terms of taking care of the football. 106 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 8: Okay, Kevin, when you say you're ultimately you're going to 107 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 8: do what's best for the team, do you mean this 108 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 8: week or for the team in general? And I'm talking 109 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 8: about the quarterback situation. Isn't it time for you guys 110 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 8: to make some decisions about rebuilding this thing for next year? 111 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 9: Yeah? 112 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 3: I think my focus, Tony, whether it's the quarterback position, 113 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 3: it's really any position. Constantly trying to do what I 114 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 3: feel like it is best for the team for right now, 115 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 3: for this week, for Cincinnati, that's really where our focus is. 116 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 5: And another question on Chubb. 117 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 8: You know, we talked to Chubb last week and he 118 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 8: said he's not close to shutting it down and all that. 119 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 8: But is there any conversation that he would have been 120 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 8: shut down somewhere in the next three games? 121 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 3: No? 122 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 10: Why not? 123 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:13,119 Speaker 3: Am I allowed to ask answer your question with a question? 124 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 9: Yeah? 125 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 3: Why? 126 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 5: I mean, he's been through so much. 127 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 8: Wouldn't just to refresh his knee as long as you 128 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 8: could be in the best interests of him? 129 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think and I understand what you're asking, Tony, 130 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 3: But I would tell you is our guys are competitors. 131 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 3: They're here to play, They're here to compete. Nick is 132 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 3: an ultimate competitor with how he carries himself in the building, 133 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 3: on the practice field, in the game field. That was 134 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 3: never under consideration. 135 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 11: Hey, Kevin, I know Dorian last night said that he 136 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 11: had a package of plays already kind of planned for him, 137 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 11: and it just kind of was an expanded role when 138 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 11: you guys put him out there. When you guys are 139 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 11: determining who's going to be the starting quarterback this week. 140 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 11: Is there the possibility of, you know, kind of figuring 141 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 11: that out all along the way while still expanding Dorian's 142 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 11: I want to say, like practice the the things that 143 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 11: you're expecting from him, so that way if he does 144 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 11: go out, if it is him, he is more prepared 145 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 11: for that. Is that something you can do? 146 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 3: I think we obviously need to work through all of it. 147 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 3: Cam Uh, certainly that there's plays that we have for 148 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 3: a lot of guys that sometimes you get to sometimes 149 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 3: you don't. But in the case of this, I think 150 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 3: it's just something that we just need to work through. 151 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 11: Have you guys been able to do that at any 152 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 11: point in Dorian's time here kind of think about how 153 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 11: you would use him in a long term role. 154 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 3: Yes, I think all of our guys are really all 155 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,679 Speaker 3: of them are working towards that, whether you're getting reps 156 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 3: with the scout team, with the with the ones, with 157 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 3: the twos, whatever it may be. I think we're constantly 158 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 3: trying to think of our guys roles moving forward. 159 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 12: Hey Kevin again on the on the quarterback situation. Did 160 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 12: you expect to have a decision next time we talk 161 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 12: to you on Wednesday? Or is it something where you'd 162 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 12: like to see both guys practice and get practice RUPs 163 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 12: throughout the week. 164 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll update you guys. Went appropriate. Again, It's as 165 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 3: you can imagine, mondays are really about putting this the 166 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 3: previous game to bed, So just have some more work 167 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 3: to do. 168 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 12: Understandable And a side separate question, are you at this 169 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 12: point you're willing? Are you willing and able to rule 170 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 12: out jailk for the rest of the season and is 171 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 12: there any update from you on him? 172 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 3: Yeah? I don't have an update just yet on Jeremiah, 173 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 3: but I will update you guys. Went appropriate, but not 174 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:37,319 Speaker 3: expected to play this week. Obviously not expected play this week. 175 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 2: That's right. 176 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 13: You guys are talking Ton Kevin this year just about 177 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 13: like the pre snap penalties, and I know there's been 178 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 13: a point of emphasis for you guys. Just what has 179 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 13: prevented that I guess message from getting through or those 180 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,079 Speaker 13: mistakes sort of still persisting you. 181 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 10: Think even this deep into the season. 182 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, we need to avoid the avoidable penalties 183 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 3: and those pre snap ones we feel like are avoidable. 184 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 3: Are there some things that maybe I take issue with? Yes, 185 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 3: and that we knew that going into this game that 186 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 3: that may happen with that crew, and we'll get answers 187 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 3: to those type of things, but it doesn't change the 188 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 3: fact that you don't want to put your team in 189 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 3: a a any in any way unnecessarily behind the eight 190 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 3: ball with something pre snap. That's those are the easy 191 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 3: ones that we need to avoid. 192 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 13: And then I guess the silver lining from yesterday Jerry 193 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 13: get into a thousand yards obviously for the first time 194 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 13: in his career. 195 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 10: I know, I asked you a couple of weeks ago 196 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 10: just about what you. 197 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 13: Envisioned with him when you got him, if you kind 198 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 13: of saw this potential, but you know, as you as 199 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:36,319 Speaker 13: the season winds down, you sort of look ahead to 200 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,839 Speaker 13: even like next year and beyond with him. Just how 201 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 13: excited are you guys about the possibilities that he gives 202 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 13: you guys as a potentially. 203 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:43,839 Speaker 10: A number one wide receiver and what he's kind of 204 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 10: proven this year for you guys. 205 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, he continues to make plays in a variety of ways. 206 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 3: He shows the ability to line up everywhere in the formation, 207 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 3: which I think, like we've spoken about before, speaks to 208 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 3: his intelligence and he's somebody that will continue to utilize 209 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:04,719 Speaker 3: because he's made a lot of plays with the ball 210 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 3: in his hand. 211 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 14: Hey, Kevin, just with Nick out, what do you guys 212 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 14: hope to see from Jerome over these last three weeks 213 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 14: and what's going to be important for him? 214 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 3: You know, just continue to build on yesterday. I thought 215 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 3: he was really good. Obviously, gave us a spark in 216 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 3: the kick return game, gave us a spark on offense, 217 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 3: so it's just building on that. I thought his past 218 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 3: protection was good as well. So another young player that 219 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 3: will get a few more opportunities. 220 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 14: And then just going back to the quarterbacks, I mean, 221 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 14: over the last year, you've seen Dorian obviously more than 222 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 14: we have, just in practices and stuff like, how have 223 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 14: you just kind of seen him grow in those moments 224 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 14: where you know we're not pretty to necessarily. 225 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 3: I tell you, Dorian, like a lot of young players, 226 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 3: Ashley continues to use all his reps that he gets 227 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 3: to make himself better. I mean, I think when you're 228 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 3: running the scout team cards, those are great opportunities to 229 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 3: get better. You're not running your plays per se, but 230 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 3: these plays are so similar, so you can take yourself 231 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,839 Speaker 3: through a rep or a concept that you can get 232 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 3: better at. And then in terms of just individual just 233 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 3: seeing a guy that takes coaching, takes the individual period 234 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,839 Speaker 3: into what he's doing in practice. So I see a 235 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 3: lot of growth from from Dorian and from all of 236 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 3: our young players. 237 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,319 Speaker 15: Yeah, Kevin, I wanted to ask you about the Special teams. 238 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 15: You've had so many issues with that unit this year, 239 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 15: not not just from a kicking standpoint, but the return game. 240 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 7: You know what has led to the drop off there and. 241 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 15: How disappointing has that been for you week to week 242 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 15: to continue to have those struggles. 243 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:46,839 Speaker 3: Well, obviously, Darreler, you're trying to affect the game in 244 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 3: a positive way on teams, and certainly our return phases 245 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 3: are setting up our offense with a good field position. 246 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 3: That's the thing with special teams is you're talking about 247 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 3: points in field position, two things that are obviously very 248 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 3: important to winning and losing. So disappointed with some of 249 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 3: our the plays that have happened in our punt return 250 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 3: in particular, we need to be better there. Obviously, turning 251 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 3: over the ball is really disappointing and not something that 252 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 3: we can do when you're trying to again set the 253 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 3: offense up. 254 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 15: And I know you want these players to take it 255 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 15: one week at a time, just how you know, big 256 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 15: picture wise for them, though, how critical are these final 257 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 15: three games? As before, you and Andrew have to get 258 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 15: in the room and really have an honest conversation about 259 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 15: the state of the roster and who fits this team 260 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 15: going forward. 261 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 3: I think every game is important, Daryl, whether it was 262 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 3: game one, game seventeen. We look at every game as 263 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 3: an opportunity for our players, for our coaches, and it's 264 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:55,079 Speaker 3: your tape is your resume, So these are really important 265 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 3: games for all of us. 266 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 6: Kevin, how how are David Nijoku and Cedric Tillman coming along? 267 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 6: Are you optimistic they'll be able to play in Cincinnati? 268 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 3: I'm hopeful, Mary Kay. They're both getting better, but we'll 269 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 3: have to see how this week plays out. 270 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 6: And if they can't play. Obviously, you guys struggled with 271 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 6: getting any production out of most of your receivers except 272 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 6: for Jerry Judy yesterday. Do you have other thoughts, plans, 273 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 6: or ideas on what you can do to generate some 274 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,319 Speaker 6: more production from some of the other players. 275 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 3: Certainly we have to, Mary Kay. Obviously, Jerry's has been 276 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 3: very productive, like we talked about, but the best that 277 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 3: we're at our best when the ball is being spread 278 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 3: around and multiple guys are making plays and we trust 279 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 3: all of our guys who have the ability to catch it. 280 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 3: So it's our job just to put them in position 281 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 3: to go make this place. 282 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 4: Kevin Miles said he was going to see I think 283 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 4: the eye doctor today. Do you know what the result was. 284 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 3: I think he's still there. So I don't have an 285 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 3: update just yet. Okay, so you don't know if it's 286 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 3: going to be. It could affect him as week or anything. 287 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 3: I don't know just yet. 288 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, running back Jerome Ford is next, and he looked 289 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 1: back on his long touchdown run against Kansas City. 290 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 14: Hey, Jerome, just seeing Nick go through another season ending 291 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:15,439 Speaker 14: injury injury here? Just how hard is that for you guys, 292 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 14: knowing everything he worked through to get back from the knee. 293 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 16: Yeah, it's real hard to see, kind of like you said, 294 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 16: seeing how the work that he's put in to be 295 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 16: on the field and then him having to turnaround and 296 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 16: have another injury like this. You know, it's sad to see. 297 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 16: And I know the type of guy Nick is. He 298 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 16: just back to work. 299 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 14: Why do you think it is like in your time 300 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 14: getting to know him that you know anytime he's gotten 301 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 14: hurt like guys are visibly emotional, almost like you all 302 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 14: talk about him in the same way and that he's 303 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 14: the heart and soul of the team. Like what is 304 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 14: it about Nick that makes him that kind of player? 305 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 16: Just the way he come to work every day, you know, 306 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 16: he come in early, out late, the way he worked, 307 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 16: how much work you put in and him you being 308 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 16: able to see it on the field, bursting in practice things. 309 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 16: It's all it's a bunch of little things that he 310 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 16: do that we all get to see day in and 311 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 16: day out, and you know, just to see it like 312 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 16: coming to fruitional game day, everything that he do, it's 313 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 16: like a proud moment for us, Like, dang, he do 314 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 16: it every day in practice and you know, now we 315 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 16: get to see it in the game. 316 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 9: So, you know, I think that's about it. 317 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 3: Did Jerom? 318 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 11: I know that you said that. You know, you're Nick 319 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 11: Chubb's biggest fan and you guys are really close. So 320 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 11: I just wonder you had the experience of having his 321 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 11: back through that knee rehab. What does it look like 322 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 11: this time around. It's a shorter window, but still something 323 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 11: that he's going to have to overcome. So you know, 324 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 11: as his friend and teammate, what does it look like 325 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 11: supporting him through this one, Just. 326 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 16: Making sure we finish out the season strong, just kind 327 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 16: of taking it how he would and taking it day 328 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 16: by day, making sure we put the work in throughout 329 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 16: the week so that we can get what we want 330 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 16: out on game day and you know, playing hard on 331 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 16: Sundays and you know, trying to win out And. 332 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 11: For you when you're back in the backfield now you 333 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 11: seem to have some really explosive runs at sixty two 334 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 11: yard touchdown? How do it felt good? 335 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 5: So? 336 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 11: I mean, is there an a little extra motivation now 337 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 11: to to put that out there and be successful yourself, 338 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 11: not only for you and for the team, but you know, 339 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 11: to back up Nick while he's out, of. 340 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 16: Course, a lot of motivation to go out there and 341 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 16: you know, play harder, finish strong. 342 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 17: Bedroom just wondering, like, what are some things you've learned 343 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 17: maybe either on the football field or off the football 344 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 17: field from your time with Nick so far in your career. 345 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 16: How to carry myself on the field practice off the field. 346 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 16: You know, Nick don't say a lot of things, but 347 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 16: you know the way he worked, the way you know 348 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 16: he come in, he set his routine and just seeing 349 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 16: things like that you know from the meeting room, the 350 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 16: way he take notes, take notes in. 351 00:16:57,720 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 9: Every meeting room. 352 00:16:58,280 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 16: He's been in the league seven years, been as often 353 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 16: for a long time, so you know, just being able 354 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 16: to see him, you know, operate on a daily basis, 355 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 16: and you know he asked him a question, He's like, oh, 356 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 16: you should do this and do that. I think those 357 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:14,880 Speaker 16: have been a big help for me and I've been, 358 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 16: you know, fortunate enough to have a vet like that. 359 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 17: And then on the on that sixty two yard run 360 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 17: last night, just kind of what do you see on 361 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 17: that play? Like, what do you think kind of worked 362 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 17: well on that couture kind of walked me through that. 363 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 16: We had a couple of reps of it in practice 364 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 16: this week. Coach had been harping on being slow in 365 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 16: that specific play and we had to play against the 366 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 16: Giants that we fumbled because of timing, and I just 367 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 16: wanted to make sure that I got the timing right. 368 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 16: And wide receivers are offensive line did a great job 369 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 16: of blocking it up. If you look at that film, 370 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 16: it's just me running. I'm not touched at all, and 371 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 16: that's that's that's pretty much offensive linea wide receivers doing 372 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 16: their job. 373 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 4: Hey drou I mean you had the explosive kickoff return 374 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 4: incase last week, get another one yesterday and then a 375 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 4: long touchdown. What's it been about the last couple of weeks. 376 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 4: Are you feeling healthier than maybe that stretch earlier in 377 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 4: the season. 378 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 9: Uh? 379 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 16: No, just honing in on the little things, that's really 380 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 16: about it. 381 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 9: Staying the course and you know, good things end up happening. 382 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 4: Did it feel like you were waiting a long time 383 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 4: for these kind of exposive plays that happen this season? 384 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 9: Yeah? I think. 385 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 16: I think whether it was for me any anybody in 386 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 16: the running back room, we've just been waiting on somebody 387 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 16: to break on and it just so happened to be me. 388 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 8: All right, Hey, Jerome, I think it's safe to say 389 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:40,400 Speaker 8: that everyone on this call is as big a fan 390 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 8: of Chubb as you are, even though we're in the media. 391 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 8: But what would you say to people who say, at 392 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 8: his age Chubb's never going to be what he was? 393 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:55,120 Speaker 16: They just need to take a take a deeper look 394 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 16: at the film and the things that he's put into 395 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 16: this game in the past and see give him a 396 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 16: little bit more time and when he back and he rolling. 397 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 16: I feel like the player and the worker speak for it. 398 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 16: So I have no doubts about how Nick Tubbul played 399 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 16: when he come back from this one. I had no 400 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 16: doubts about the last one, just because of how you work, 401 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 16: and you know, when the time comes, we'll be able 402 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 16: to shut out the naysayers up. 403 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 8: Okay, And a question for you about you have had 404 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:29,399 Speaker 8: recent success the last couple of games and kickoff returns, 405 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:32,959 Speaker 8: but you've been part of the of the special teams 406 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,400 Speaker 8: now for two years. What do you think is going 407 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 8: on elsewhere? There's so many facets to the special teams, 408 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 8: but it has been a big problem throughout the year. 409 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 8: What do you see the problem? 410 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 16: We have a we always have a great game plan, 411 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 16: you know, us as players, you know, sometimes we just 412 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 16: have you know, we got to make plays, and I 413 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 16: think it comes down to that and making sure that 414 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 16: we are doing our job and all eleven players are 415 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 16: doing our jobs. 416 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 9: That's really about it. 417 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 16: As long as you know all eleven players do their job, 418 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 16: will have success in any facet of the game. 419 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:11,880 Speaker 5: So you're putting it on the players. 420 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, Jerome, just wondering with a quarterback decision looming 421 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 6: for this weekend, whether it's going to be Jamis, or 422 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 6: if he'll go to Dorian or whatever. I'm wondering what 423 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 6: are your thoughts on what Jamis has meant to the 424 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:31,159 Speaker 6: offense over these last seven starts. I know about all 425 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 6: the interceptions, of course, but just what has he meant 426 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 6: in terms of kind of waking up the offense and 427 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,640 Speaker 6: how how do you feel about playing with him? 428 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 16: Jamie's meant a lot to our offense and to the 429 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 16: team in general, from being a leader, being a funny guy, 430 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 16: or just being a great person off the field, He's 431 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 16: meant a lot to us. 432 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:56,199 Speaker 6: And in the event that they sit him down, what 433 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 6: impact might that have on some of you guys, You specifically, 434 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 6: if they bench Jamis, how will you feel about that? 435 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 16: Uh, it's a decision that's made by the higher ups 436 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 16: and I got to go out there and do my job, 437 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 16: and I feel like everybody feel the same. But you know, 438 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 16: it won't change how we think about Jamis and Jamis 439 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 16: to still be that guy that's out in the forefront, 440 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 16: you know, still leading the team in any way that 441 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 16: he can and helping the team in any way he can. 442 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 10: Jerome, You guys had your highest. 443 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 13: Total rushing yards for a game yesterday and back to 444 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,439 Speaker 13: back weeks were you guys went over one hundred yards 445 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 13: on the ground. 446 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 10: Just what have you noticed in like recent weeks. 447 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 13: That that's allowed you guys to be more successful in 448 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 13: the run game and be more consistent in the wrung game. 449 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 10: That that's kind of working for you guys. 450 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 9: Like I said before, just honing in on the details. 451 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 16: Were everybody getting on the same page, all eleven guys 452 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 16: doing our job, from you know, the offensive line to 453 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 16: us hitting the right holes and being in the right places, 454 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 16: the wide receivers blocking on the edge, and the quarterback 455 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 16: making the right calls, and the coach is calling the 456 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 16: right place. Fel like when we were hitting on all 457 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 16: cylinders like that, it's really hard to stop us. 458 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 1: Finally, safety Rodney McLeod praised the togetherness of the team. 459 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 11: Rodney, I know that this is obviously your last season 460 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,360 Speaker 11: in the NFL, but some of the guys have been 461 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 11: talking about why it's important to continue fighting through, especially 462 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 11: on defense, to keep the unit together. Is that kind 463 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 11: of a shared sentiment throughout the roster, knowing that they 464 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 11: want as many guys to continue into twenty twenty five 465 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 11: as they can. 466 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 18: Yeah, I believe just the heart and the spirit of 467 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:35,679 Speaker 18: the team is a competitive spirit, and you know, we 468 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 18: all recognize that this is our only opportunity as. 469 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,120 Speaker 2: The twenty twenty four to twenty you know. 470 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 18: Five Browns team to be together and our signature is, 471 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 18: you know, on this season. And of course you know, 472 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,919 Speaker 18: things haven't necessarily gone the way that we would have hoped, 473 00:22:55,880 --> 00:23:00,880 Speaker 18: but I feel that through it all, you know, one 474 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 18: thing is true is that we've stayed together. The spirit 475 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 18: has always been right. It's been a fighting spirit. It's 476 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 18: been one where you know, we do believe, and I 477 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,880 Speaker 18: think you know, nothing's going to change, you know, despite 478 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 18: you know the loss, you know it hurts in the moment, 479 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 18: you know, these twenty four hours, it does because we 480 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,880 Speaker 18: put so much you know, work and time into it. 481 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 18: But knowing that there still are three remaining games and 482 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 18: we have to go out there and fight as one 483 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 18: and you know, honestly, we want to just experience that 484 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 18: that victory feeling again. So the mindset, the heart for 485 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 18: us is push on and let's let's try to get 486 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 18: a win on Sunday. 487 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 11: For you, these last three games, what do you need? 488 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 11: What do you want to see out of them? Knowing 489 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 11: that they are probably your last three in the in 490 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:57,160 Speaker 11: the NFL. 491 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, absolutely. For me, I want to win all three. 492 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:04,439 Speaker 2: I want to go out a winner. 493 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,679 Speaker 18: And you know, I think when I started this season, 494 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,920 Speaker 18: going on a winner exists. 495 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:11,199 Speaker 2: What existed for me? 496 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 18: Would that look like, was you know, holding hosting a 497 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:19,719 Speaker 18: Lombardi Trophy? But uh, you know, I think, Uh, any competitor, Uh, 498 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 18: any person that that respects the game, you know, as 499 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 18: much as I do, and the rest of the team, 500 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 18: you know, going out finish this year strong with three 501 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 18: solid wins versus great teams who are all you know, 502 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,880 Speaker 18: still in playoff contention and might even you know, find 503 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 18: themselves into playoffs. Uh, It's something that everybody can can 504 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 18: walk away with and feel good about. 505 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, Rodnie, just wondering with the quarterback decision looming, we 506 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 6: don't know what it is yet, but if Jamis gets benched, 507 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 6: I'm just wondering, how would you feel about that? And 508 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 6: what has he meant or brought to you guys this season? 509 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 18: For us as a team, you know, we support Uh 510 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 18: anyone who lines up, you know, behind center, Uh, whether 511 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 18: that you know, was Deshaun starting out, Jamis you know 512 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 18: now taking over dtr you know, to finish the game 513 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:13,399 Speaker 18: for us, uh, yesterday. 514 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 2: Uh that is that is our mindset. 515 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 13: Uh. 516 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 18: And and and that's how we you know, we approached 517 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 18: that situation. You know, I think it's it's been clear 518 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 18: and very evident. 519 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 9: Uh. 520 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 18: And how impactful Jamis has been for us as as 521 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 18: a leader both on and off the field. 522 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 3: Uh. 523 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 18: You know, you see that that was evident from day one. 524 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 18: That was my observation as he supported Deshaun uh through 525 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 18: through it all, you know, through O t A's training 526 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 18: camp and up to the point where he was a starter. 527 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 2: Uh, he stayed consistent. 528 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 5: Uh. 529 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:50,160 Speaker 2: He's he is. 530 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 18: The the the identity of what selfless looks like. Uh 531 00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 18: is Jamis And he's continued to demonstrate that throughout his 532 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 18: time here. And it's been a pleasure just to have 533 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 18: him as a teammate, learn from him, pick his brain, 534 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 18: and you know, it's been exciting to watch him want 535 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 18: to feel, you know, and what he's been able to 536 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 18: do for the offense. 537 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 2: So, you know, we'll see. 538 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 18: What Kevin decide's but at the end of the day, 539 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,959 Speaker 18: we support whatever that final decision is. 540 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:25,919 Speaker 14: Hey, Rodney, I know, this year, it just seems like 541 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 14: complimentary football has been a struggle for you guys. Multiple 542 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 14: people brought it up, but like yesterday when the defense 543 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 14: plays really well, things are kind of going haywire elsewhere, 544 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 14: Like it just seems like guys don't really turn on 545 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 14: each other with this group and don't want to pass 546 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 14: blame around. So what is it about you guys that 547 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,439 Speaker 14: you you kind of just move on and there's not 548 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,880 Speaker 14: like grudges being held or public spats. 549 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 18: You know, it's the love, the love that we have 550 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 18: for one another, the foundation that we built and how 551 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,159 Speaker 18: through rough times, you know, nothing can really you know, 552 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:08,439 Speaker 18: pierce that foundation that was created and and that's was 553 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 18: formed in in OTA's training camp and just throughout the year. 554 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 18: It's unconditional love, you know, regardless of the final results. 555 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 18: And you know, we all uh you know, envisioned this 556 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 18: season being completely different, but this is this is our reality. 557 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 18: And so you know, one thing that we can do 558 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 18: is we can continue to band together because they're there. 559 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 18: It's when you have something like that, you know, that's 560 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,439 Speaker 18: something that you can build off of, and when you 561 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 18: have good character men in the locker room with you, 562 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 18: you can build on that. So, uh, that's what we're 563 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 18: saying true to and that's what's going to keep us 564 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 18: showing up each and every day and continue to fight, 565 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 18: you know, on Sundays. 566 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 14: And I mean, I know you obviously made the decision 567 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 14: to retire after this year a while ago, but just 568 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,680 Speaker 14: knowing there are three games left and that things haven't 569 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 14: gone the way you guys wanted, uh, and it's been 570 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 14: a losing season. Just just how do you feel, I mean, 571 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 14: just going into these last few weeks. 572 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:20,479 Speaker 9: Uh? 573 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 3: Thankful? 574 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 2: Uh, you know, That's that's what stands out to me. 575 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 18: And recognizing the gift that you know, guys blessed me 576 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 18: with and making sure that I do. 577 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 3: Right by that. 578 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 18: Uh, that I respect the gift and I'm responsible with it. 579 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 18: And and that means me giving everything I have into 580 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 18: into this game. That's given me a lot, and so 581 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 18: that that. 582 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 2: Alone keeps me moving forward. 583 00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 18: And it's at the forefront, and and that's what I'm 584 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 18: really focused on, man, is making the most of what 585 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 18: is left of this season, of this short season. 586 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 4: Hey, Roy, I need talking about having three games left. 587 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 4: Did you during the season, if you ever reconsidered that 588 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 4: this would be your last for whatever reason? The fact 589 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 4: that it hasn't gone like the team would one or 590 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 4: anything else. 591 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 18: No, No, honestly, just content with whatever the finishes. And 592 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 18: I think there's no perfect story there, there is no perfect. 593 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 2: Ending on to it. 594 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 18: And and I'm just living with, comfortable with living with 595 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 18: with the final results. 596 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 4: And you know, Kevin talks so much about turnovers, and 597 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 4: obviously yesterday was it was so startling. Just how tough 598 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 4: is that from a defensive perspective when you guys are 599 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 4: playing really well yesterday, but you're not getting a chance 600 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 4: because it's six turnovers. 601 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 18: I think, yeah, every every game, you know, we go 602 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 18: into we talk about the turnover margin, and we talk 603 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 18: specifically about us, you know, what is our record when 604 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 18: we're ahead and the turnover battle or we tie, and 605 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 18: that is. 606 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 2: That has been very consistent. 607 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 18: And I think across football, you know, turnovers, whether you 608 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 18: get them or you're giving them away, it either you know, 609 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 18: and enhances your your chances of winning or it diminishes it. 610 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 18: And so you know, for us yesterday we put ourselves 611 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 18: in a very difficult space with you know, six turnovers offensively, 612 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 18: you know, on special teams. 613 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 2: And you know that's that's what you know, we're. 614 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 18: Chasing, like that collective game where all three parties are 615 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 18: playing at a high level executing and when we done that, 616 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 18: we he've resulted in wins. But you know when now, uh, 617 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 18: you know, we're taking turns and and and making the 618 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 18: game a lot more difficult than it needs to be, 619 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 18: then that's when we found ourselves, you know, on the 620 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 18: on the wrong side of of these games. 621 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 13: And Rodney, obviously everyone's kind of had some thoughts on 622 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,959 Speaker 13: on Nick Chubb going down with another another season any injury. 623 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 10: I'm curious though, from like your perspective. 624 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 13: I mean, you've been part of some so many different teams, 625 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 13: You've been part of a super Bowl winning team. Have 626 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 13: you ever come across a player that like of Nick 627 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 13: Chubb's stature where he transcends like offensive players have nothing 628 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 13: but good things to say, and he's so impactful to them, 629 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 13: Defensive guys, the coaching staff, everybody just is impacted by 630 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 13: his sort of influence on a team. 631 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 18: Yeah, I have, and and Chubb has that effect. As 632 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 18: you said, you know, he's a guy that shows up 633 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 18: every single day a his his truest. 634 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 2: Self and what people uh have you. 635 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 18: Know, what you understand about Chubb is that he takes 636 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 18: the game seriously. He takes preparations seriously, everything that it 637 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 18: that it requires. 638 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 2: Of him to do, he does. 639 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 18: And for him, I think it's all about you know, winning, 640 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 18: and it's all about serving his team. And so when 641 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 18: you see a guy who does like everything did the 642 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 18: right way and and and and a's a hell of 643 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 18: a player on the field, you know, it hurts, you 644 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 18: know when you see you know him go through some 645 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 18: of these tragic moments, uh, throughout his you know, in 646 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 18: the past couple of years of his career. And so 647 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 18: you know, my, my, you know, my heart goes out 648 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 18: to him, and I'm just praying for him. 649 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 3: You know. 650 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 18: The physical recovery, yes, but it's more of the mental 651 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 18: battle that I know all of us have have faced. 652 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 18: If you've experienced any sort of season and injury that 653 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 18: requires you know, intense surgery and and and you know, 654 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 18: the road to recovery is is it's long. You know 655 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 18: that can that can have an effect on you. But 656 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 18: I know, uh, he has all of us to lean on. Uh, 657 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 18: he doesn't have to you know, carry himself. And I 658 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 18: know Nick Man, that's gonna line up back on that 659 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 18: field and it's going to be another huge accomplishment for 660 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 18: him and something that you can add to the story. 661 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 13: And then you've talked so much already about just just 662 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 13: being your last three games and how you're kind of 663 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 13: approaching it. But for for your teammates as they watch 664 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 13: you sort of go through this this process and and 665 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 13: you know, wrap your head around being done with your 666 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 13: career and all this so like a lasting message that 667 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 13: that you kind of want to leave with those guys 668 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 13: over these next few games, that that that you know 669 00:33:57,920 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 13: they can kind of carry on into the rest of 670 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 13: the careers. 671 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 18: I think for myself, just always, you know, respecting the 672 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 18: game and being mindful and how you show up every 673 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 18: single day. I pride myself on trying to be the 674 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:23,839 Speaker 18: same individual every time I walk into this building, every 675 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 18: time I hit that grass, regardless of year one to 676 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 18: year thirteen, as a Super Bowl champion before I was, 677 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:37,360 Speaker 18: after I was, And you know, I think there's a 678 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 18: lot that a young player can can learn from just 679 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:48,400 Speaker 18: my daily walk as well as you know, a veteran 680 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 18: who's aspiring to play ten plus years. So I just 681 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,360 Speaker 18: try to be that that that same guy each and 682 00:34:56,400 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 18: every day and again show my respect the game by 683 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 18: the way that I you know, approach you know, everything 684 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 18: inside these walls and outside. 685 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 1: That's all for this episode of the From the Podium Podcast. 686 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 1: Be sure to like and subscribe to the show wherever 687 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 1: you get your podcasts. Keep it locked to Cleveland Browns 688 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,760 Speaker 1: daily each weekday, and follow the Browns on social media 689 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 1: for more coverage from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus right 690 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,799 Speaker 1: here in Maria. I'm Gabe Kollura. 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