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Speaker 3: This is Stu Box and this is Stupidity. Here we go, Jim.

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Speaker 2: to Gotts and the podcast name is Dupoty Mikey, Hey,

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Speaker 2: how are you second episode this week? I'm exhausted, I'm

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Speaker 2: still not getting paid for this fucking thing.

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Speaker 3: Who is getting paid for this? I have no idea, levantar.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this thing is paid. I went to listen

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Speaker 2: had no idea. Stay forms a sponsor all of a sudden,

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Speaker 2: and no one man that by me. And we love

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Speaker 2: having them on. Thank you, great insurance. Great, Yes, Mike,

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Speaker 2: I'm very excited. I'm a huge golf fan, as you know.

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Speaker 2: I'm a Jack Nicholas fan.

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Speaker 3: As you know.

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Speaker 2: We're not gonna have Jack on, but we are going

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Speaker 2: to have his son on, who wrote a book with

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Speaker 2: Don Yaeger, a best seat in the House, And I'm

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Speaker 2: very excited about that because he has he has had

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Speaker 2: the best seat in the house to perhaps, well yeah,

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Speaker 2: probably the greatest golfing career of all time and certainly

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Speaker 2: am looking very, very very much looking forward to having

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Speaker 2: Jack Junior run. But I want to make fun of

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Speaker 2: us on for twenty we did an episode with Chad Pennington.

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Speaker 2: Now it was a couple of Jet fans cutting it

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Speaker 3: What were you gonna say, I'm just gonna let you know.

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Speaker 3: Jack was Diland and that's all.

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Speaker 2: But I want to make fun of us because we

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Speaker 2: were doing athletes that canote for twenty okay, who canote marijuana?

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Speaker 2: And the guest that we had on was an athlete

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Speaker 2: that does exactly that.

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Speaker 3: And you and I failed to mention it.

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Speaker 5: Chad Pennington, it's the matter with you with a long

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Speaker 5: days with a long day, okay, Maderna, I mean, honestly,

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Speaker 5: how did we miss Alt lighter?

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Speaker 3: Oh my god?

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Speaker 2: How did we miss Al lighter or Jack lighter pictures

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Speaker 2: for Vanderbil? All right, we have closed a lighter category.

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Speaker 2: I am, as I mentioned earlier, super excited, huge.

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Speaker 3: Golfan huge Jack fan.

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Speaker 2: We do not have Jack on, we have his son on,

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Speaker 2: and Don Jaeger have written a book, Best Seat in

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Speaker 2: the House, and Jack joins us right now. How are

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Speaker 2: you Jack?

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Speaker 4: I'm great? How are you?

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Speaker 3: I am doing? God?

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Speaker 2: You look just like your dad. Oh my god? Is

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Speaker 2: that a Is that a painting of Augusta behind you?

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Speaker 3: Is that what I'm saying there?

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Speaker 4: That's Alenda Hartal, that's the fifteenth old Augusta, where I

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, all right, you're gonna walk us through that

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you can see what's in my

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Speaker 3: And purchase that Master's flag.

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Speaker 2: It's sign about your dad, and I believe it's from

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Speaker 2: the eighty six Master's jet that was.

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Speaker 4: Uh. I can't tell what year it's from, but what

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Speaker 4: a great Nicholas family for sure.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think all the years of the Nicholas family.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. And you know what, the last time he played

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Speaker 3: Oh, I would love a tour of your house. You

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Speaker 4: See that? But well that's the same in two thousand

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Speaker 4: the bag during that nineteen eighty six Masters win is

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Speaker 4: justice special. Thanks Jackie. So that's from Poppa there. Pretty pretty, pretty.

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Speaker 3: Cool, very cool.

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Speaker 2: Ironically, mine says the same thing, Jack, That is amazing,

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Speaker 2: Like that is Jack, If you had one thing to

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Speaker 3: Would that be it? Right there? Because that's oh my god,

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Speaker 4: Check that's right here.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, he's walking around.

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Speaker 4: but that's it right there. That's it. How long let's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you're right.

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Speaker 2: I probably you know what, Mike, Mike, I probably show

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Speaker 3: But I probably show him the Jack flag. You probably would,

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Speaker 4: Of the kids?

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Speaker 4: My little one will he's got to be he's probably

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Speaker 4: Right now. They they host Notre Dame Saturday, not number

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Speaker 4: Right now, they've got a hector the lacrosse team at Carolina.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they really do. And you went to Carolina.

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Speaker 2: My uncle also went to North Carolina played lacrosse for Carolina,

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Speaker 2: So the Wieners and the Nicholases have some stuff in common.

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Speaker 2: Here is amazing.

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Speaker 4: Great. Now, now what year at Carolina did did he

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Speaker 3: I want to say in the fifties.

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Speaker 4: Probably you played the case for a while ago, because

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Speaker 3: And now the women's team.

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Speaker 4: Now I think they are number one in the nation

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they got a great team going right now. So

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Speaker 4: It really is. I still say though, I mean, I

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Speaker 4: But the way I look at the you know, I

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Speaker 3: Did you try to get golf sticks in their hands

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Speaker 4: I'm my oldest Dack, who did not play lacrosse. He's

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Speaker 2: Best Seat in the House is Jack's new book, along

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Speaker 2: with Don yaeger Don, of course, the New York Times bestseller.

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Speaker 3: Jack, I'm wondering, why'd you decide to write this book.

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Speaker 3: I'm fascinated. I can't wait to read it, But why'd

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Speaker 4: Well, it actually goes back. I showed you the flag

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Speaker 4: So that's that's what inspired me to write the book

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Speaker 3: So how do you want to do this? Because I'll

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Speaker 2: You could read the entire book to me and I'll

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Speaker 2: So there are eighteen lessons you want to give me

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Speaker 2: the one that you liked the most.

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Speaker 3: How do you want to do that? Jack?

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Speaker 4: It started off as a book where I was just

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Speaker 4: sharing stories of growing up watching dad, as I mentioned earlier,

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Speaker 4: and Don Don really Don yer co author, really helped

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Speaker 4: me organize my thoughts and make them into lessons. And

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Speaker 4: it's it's all my writing, my thoughts, you know, from

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Speaker 4: pop up on the screen. So it's all this is

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Speaker 4: my book completely. But Don was amazing as how he

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Speaker 4: So Don's fantastic.

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Speaker 2: So is there a lesson that really or story that

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Speaker 3: I don't want to get I don't want.

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Speaker 2: And you felt like Dad was in a way that

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Speaker 3: And so that's crazy.

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Speaker 3: That's crazy, Jack.

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Speaker 4: He was now early on. Obviously, Dad's job is not

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Speaker 2: Blasd best seat in the house is the book Jack Nicholas.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure there are many perks, but is

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Speaker 3: Is that hard for you? Has it been difficult for you?

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Speaker 4: You know what, it's first and foremost a blessing. Blessing. Uh,

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Speaker 4: You know people are watching even you know today there's

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Speaker 2: Have you ever dropped I'm Jack's son to get yourself

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Speaker 3: Have you done that? You don't have to.

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Speaker 3: Mike, Thankfully, I am not Jackson. That is great.

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Speaker 4: I have not. There was you know, a kind of

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Speaker 3: That is amazing. Where are they now? Do they just like?

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Speaker 4: Of course he's able to reuse it, does not leave

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Speaker 3: You own all the golf courses. Jack, the golf course

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Speaker 3: The best thing about being Jack's son is Blake.

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Speaker 4: I've got the greatest father in the world.

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Speaker 4: It's all about what Dad had accomplished that day, What

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Speaker 4: you know, just looking at me. He made me part

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Speaker 4: of it. He's there with his arms outstretched to embrace me,

439
00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,840
Speaker 4: and and uh, you know, at that moment, you know,

440
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Speaker 4: I felt like I felt like I counted. I felt

441
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Speaker 4: like I had my dad's full attention. I felt like

442
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Speaker 4: I was love. And that's what it's like to be

443
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Speaker 4: Jack Nicholas.

444
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Speaker 3: So son, God, that's perfect.

445
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,200
Speaker 2: I mean, that's his gift, right, all that going around

446
00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,520
Speaker 2: going on around him, and he made it about you

447
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,320
Speaker 2: and him on not about just him, And that's amazing.

448
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,720
Speaker 3: That is God. I'm getting emotional. I got goosebumps. Jack.

449
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:40,600
Speaker 3: Now are you telling me? Are you telling me?

450
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Speaker 2: Dad was fighting back tears ten eleven, twelve thirteen fourteen,

451
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Speaker 2: the tire back nine.

452
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Speaker 4: I most remember it walking from the eleventh Green to

453
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Speaker 4: twelve te which is an open stretch of about forty yards,

454
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Speaker 4: And I walked alongside Dad walking up there, and he

455
00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,080
Speaker 4: just had tears coming out of his eye as the

456
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 4: crowd welcomed him. And he had so much work to

457
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 4: do on that back nine. But I think people understood

458
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 4: that he was in the twilight of his career and

459
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 4: you know, something pretty special was about to happen. Pretty cool.

460
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 4: He had tears on every hole.

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Speaker 2: How is Dad in terms like if you handed him,

462
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Speaker 2: would he have final say on club selection? Always like

463
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Speaker 2: it didn't matter what you said. If he wanted to

464
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 2: go seven, you wanted eight, he was going seven, right.

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Speaker 4: I Dad has told me that the only three things

466
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:35,400
Speaker 4: I need to remember as a caddy. And I say

467
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Speaker 4: this jokingly is because Dad has great respect for all

468
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 4: the caddies, but he says, Jackie says for me specifically,

469
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Speaker 4: there's three ups, there's there's show up.

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Speaker 3: I know what club to you, jack I got it absolutely.

471
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Speaker 4: What I did is I you know, I was a

472
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,919
Speaker 4: friend out there more than anything, but you know, keeping

473
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Speaker 4: the clubs plan. You know, I'm a twenty four year

474
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Speaker 4: old kid. There's no way that I know any thing

475
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 4: about Augusta like he knows. And I'm not a professional caddie.

476
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 4: The guys out there are so great at their jobs.

477
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 4: But honestly, you know, I would give Dad the information

478
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,919
Speaker 4: that he needed, you know, one hundred and fifty four

479
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,119
Speaker 4: yards to the pen, one fifty to carry the bunker,

480
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 4: what it might be, to the back of the green,

481
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 4: and Dad would select this club. And again, I don't

482
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 4: know whether he's going to choke down hit a full shot,

483
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 4: take some skin off and whatever. So anyway, I just

484
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:31,359
Speaker 4: gave him that information. Now he was great to me

485
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,400
Speaker 4: because he allowed me to talk about every putt throughout

486
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,680
Speaker 4: that day. But now that day for the entire week.

487
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:38,560
Speaker 4: You know, he said, Jackie, what do you think here?

488
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 4: And we talked about the break and ultimately he's making

489
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Speaker 4: his choice how hard he's gonna hit the ball and

490
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 4: how what it's going to break. But he allowed me

491
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 4: to be part of that, which was pretty cool.

492
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Speaker 2: Best seat in the house, Jack Nicholas the Second and

493
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 2: Don Jaeger check it out. Eighteen Golden Lessons from a

494
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Speaker 2: father to his son. What happened to the nineteenth lesson?

495
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Speaker 4: Like?

496
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Speaker 3: Which lesson made the cutting room floor? Like? I realized,

497
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 3: why you did eighteen, but you probably could have done

498
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 3: a hundred. If golf had a hundred holes, you would

499
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 3: have done a hundred lessons.

500
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 4: Correct, You know what you do anything and you finish

501
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 4: it up. And I handed over to the publishers, and

502
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:15,680
Speaker 4: you know, I always wish I had included something else.

503
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 4: And again, like you know, life is fluid, and you

504
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,360
Speaker 4: know I watched my mom and dad today, uh As

505
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 4: I said, I'm a father in learning. You learn every day,

506
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,360
Speaker 4: so uh, you know, and I hope I had never

507
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 4: stopped learning. But yeah, I think I could have gone

508
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 4: on and on. Don cut me off. What she should have.

509
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Speaker 3: He's the writer, That's why you brought him on. He

510
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 3: knows what, he knows what he's doing. A couple of

511
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 3: quick ones, we'll get you out of here. This has

512
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 3: been a thrill for me.

513
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 2: The movie Jack and Jack, the second we'll sit down

514
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Speaker 2: and watch together is blank.

515
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Speaker 3: Oh god, is there?

516
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 4: No, there's not, although you know what. Dad has been

517
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 4: approached recently to do some movies. You know, I'm me.

518
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 4: I would be a support cast between you know, Jack

519
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 4: and Jack's body.

520
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 3: Jack, you don't give yourself enough credit.

521
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 2: You were an accomplished golfer, you're you're you know, your

522
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 2: golf course mogul.

523
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 3: You don't give yourself enough credit.

524
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, well I appreciate that. But the way I looked

525
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 4: out at the eighty six Masters, you know, if he

526
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,400
Speaker 4: had a real good caddy, he would have won by four.

527
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 4: I kept it close now, but you know, it's interesting.

528
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 4: You know they talk about the movies and and a

529
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,160
Speaker 4: friend of mine that's in that that business talk about

530
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,399
Speaker 4: doing a movie with my father and I said, well,

531
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Speaker 4: you know Dad would be interested in doing that. And

532
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 4: the follow up, uh conversation was, well, what controversy? Uh

533
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 4: could we talk about? Like what was he would want

534
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,440
Speaker 4: to know what was the real relationship between your father

535
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 4: and Arnold and you know, how do they combat each other?

536
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 4: And you know my response was, that's not Dad's story.

537
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 4: He wasn't about being compative. He he wasn't about controversy.

538
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 4: Dad always made great decisions. And uh, the movie makers

539
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 4: discussion followed. He says, well, it wouldn't sell. You know,

540
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 4: something like that without a controversy doesn't sell. I mean,

541
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 4: you know the recent story about about Tiger and the

542
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 4: recent story about m Jay. You know there's some controversy

543
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 4: in each of those. I have so much respect for

544
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 4: both those amazing athletes and people. But again, you know,

545
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,679
Speaker 4: I don't think a movie at least the friend that

546
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 4: I talked to in the industry said the Dad's movie

547
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,640
Speaker 4: probably won't sell it that he doesn't have that type

548
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:28,919
Speaker 4: of a controversy.

549
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 3: Forget about him, un listen, I'll make the movie with you,

550
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 3: and I'll sell it a couple of quick ones.

551
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 2: We'll get you out of your greatest thing you've seen

552
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 2: your dad do on the golf course is blank.

553
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,639
Speaker 4: As you mentioned, I played some competitive golf and I

554
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 4: got so wrapped up in getting a golf shot or

555
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 4: you know, right at that moment of making a three

556
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:58,160
Speaker 4: foot part. Dad has always had the ability to see

557
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 4: a bigger picture you look at the concession. I believe

558
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 4: it was the maybe messed up on the gate, but

559
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 4: I think it was a nineteen seventy one Rider Cup

560
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 4: over in England where he's competing against Tony Jacqueline. Tony

561
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 4: Jacqueline just won the Open Championship, you know, the British

562
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,439
Speaker 4: Open as we call it, and it came down to

563
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 4: that last match between Tony and my father and they

564
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 4: both had twenty foot puts to win. Dad rolled his

565
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 4: by about five feet, Tony rolled his by about two

566
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 4: or three feet. Dad made his. So now at this point,

567
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 4: Tony Jacqueline, if he misses the putt, he's going to

568
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 4: be the goat in a negative way, the goat of

569
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 4: the whole nation from hometown hero to goat. And and

570
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 4: you know if he makes it, well, it's the same

571
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 4: result because they would have tied the Ryder Cup. The

572
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 4: right the US team was to retain the cup because

573
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 4: they had won it two years prior. My dad. Immediately

574
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 4: Rick picked up Tony's coin and said, nice match, Tony. Uh,

575
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 4: you know we have and congratulations to the European team.

576
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 4: And that's something that me. I would have never had

577
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 4: the twenty thousand foot luck to know how to do that.

578
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 4: And Dad always seemed to understand the bigger picture. That

579
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 4: was an amazing thing that Dad did that day.

580
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 2: Best Seat in the House eighteen Golden Lessons from a

581
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 2: father to his son, Jack Nicholas. The second with us,

582
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say your name quickly and give me

583
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 2: the first thing that comes to mind. I get you

584
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,959
Speaker 2: out here, Okay. Some names of people that have been

585
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 2: close to your dad throughout the years. Arnold Palmer, Arnold.

586
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:32,959
Speaker 4: Has always had Dad's back. They had a great relationship.

587
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 4: It was a great rivalry. It started there at Oakmont

588
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 4: in nineteen sixty two. Actually goes back before that in

589
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 4: sixty one where Arnold won the US Open at Cherry Hills,

590
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 4: and I think Dad out drove Arnold on one hole

591
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 4: and he needled and about and Arnold had beat my

592
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 4: Dad by like four or five shots on the scorecard,

593
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 4: which Arnold put.

594
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Speaker 3: Her back to Dad.

595
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 4: So they had a great relationship, great rivalry, and Arnold

596
00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 4: always had Dad's back. And he's very missed. Gary Player,

597
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 4: Gary Player. Uh, there's not many men that I love.

598
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 4: I love Gary Player. He is a shortened stature, but

599
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 4: a giant in my eyes. He's helped so many people

600
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 4: throughout his career.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

602
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 4: Man, he's a phenomenal person. Uh. He stayed at our

603
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 4: house many many times. And I love the Player family.

604
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 4: My prayers go out to his wife, Vivian Players, who's

605
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 4: battling cancer right now. You know, wish sure well. But

606
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 4: Gary Player is the best. Tom Watson, Tom Watson, uh

607
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 4: is again. I have so much respect for Tom Watson.

608
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,719
Speaker 4: I can't even tell you he's a he what a

609
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 4: competitor Tom is uh and Tom uh uh you know

610
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 4: we we He just lost his wife unfortunately again to cancer,

611
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 4: both pancreatic cancers. But uh, you know, just a great man,

612
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 4: great competitor. He beat Dad on several occasions. I think

613
00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 4: of Turnberry the Duel in the Sun where that I

614
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 4: think Dad shot sixty five sixty six and Tom shot

615
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 4: sixty five sixty five to win that event. And Tom

616
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 4: will say that my Dad's gesture after that round was

617
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 4: really propelled Tom to believe in himself. My dad put

618
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,719
Speaker 4: his arm around Tom as they walked out that seventy

619
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 4: second hole I think it was at Royal Litham and

620
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 4: he says, Tom, I gave you my best shot today

621
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 4: and it wasn't getting enough. I'm really happy for you. Congratulations.

622
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Speaker 3: God, Wow, it's too good to be true. I'm serious. Okay,

623
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Speaker 3: two more, we'll get you out of here.

624
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 4: Tiger Woods, Tiger Woods, what a phenomenal, phenomenal athlete. Honestly,

625
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 4: I would have said Tiger would have beaten my dad's record.

626
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 4: And you know, he's had a series of injuries of

627
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 4: obviously the tragic cart crash of recent but I mean

628
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 4: his back's and his knees and and but you look

629
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 4: at Dad's career. Dad fought a lot of back injuries,

630
00:31:55,440 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 4: shoulder injuries as well. But Tiger's bought brought so many

631
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 4: people to the game of golf that weren't in the

632
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 4: game of golf. My hat so goes off to Tiger,

633
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 4: and you got to think, you know, the question always

634
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 4: is out there who would win a contest between Tiger

635
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 4: and my dad, Dad and Ben Hogan. You can go down,

636
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 4: you know, the greats of the time. Certainly Tiger and

637
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 4: Dad are qualifies those greats, And you know what, I

638
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 4: think they would all figure out a way to win.

639
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 4: They all had different talent levels and different strengths and weaknesses.

640
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 4: But their minds, I think, is what made him great

641
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 4: and continues to make Tiger great, actually continues to make

642
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 4: Dad great. He's still amazing. Tiger Wood's My hat is

643
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 4: off to him.

644
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 3: An amazing man, last one. Not a person, but a place. Augusta.

645
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 4: Augusta is the mecca of golf, at least in my mind.

646
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 4: Of course, golf was started over at St Andrews in Scotland.

647
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 4: But for the Nicholas family, what that has meant to

648
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 4: the Nicholas family Augusta National They it's it's an amazing,

649
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 4: amazing place. I've had so many fondom memories. It feels

650
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 4: like a home away from home for me. And to

651
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 4: have Dad still go back. He plays now only in

652
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 4: the Part three contests, and now he hits a ceremonial

653
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 4: first key shot, which he did this year with Gary

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Speaker 4: Player and Lee Elton who was there for this year's

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Speaker 4: on Thursday morning. But it's it's it's it's family that's

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Speaker 4: that's I can't say any more than family. It's a

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Speaker 4: very very special place for.

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Speaker 2: A fa best seat in the house by wherever books

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Speaker 2: are sold. Jack Nicholas the second Don Jeger both wrote

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Speaker 2: it eighteen Golden Lessons from a Father to his son.

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Speaker 3: Jack.

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Speaker 2: Last thing, if you could just take us through the

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Speaker 2: legendary leap fifteenth hole. I think it's the cover here

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Speaker 2: of the book. You're standing behind Dad. You had the

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Speaker 2: best seat in the house. That's the title of the book.

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Speaker 2: Was there a conversation? Reactually just got to walk us

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Speaker 2: through that magical moment. I remember exactly where I was

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Speaker 2: when it happened.

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Speaker 4: Well, it was all back up to the fairway. And

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Speaker 4: of course, as I mentioned earlier, I'm so dialed into

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Speaker 4: you know, the numbers and this and that what the

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Speaker 4: information Dad needs. So I'm looking at I don't know

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Speaker 4: how far it was. I think it was two fourteen,

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Speaker 4: I think to the pin, and so I'm looking at

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Speaker 4: the numbers and Dad says, boy, three would really go

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Speaker 4: a long way here. Now my mind's going, you know,

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Speaker 4: he never asks me what club to hit something. Is

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Speaker 4: he thinking three iron or four iron? I looked at him,

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Speaker 4: I said, are you thinking a three iron, heys, no, no, no,

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Speaker 4: I'm taking an eagle, you know. So again he's thinking,

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Speaker 4: I'm taking what club he should hit? And yeah, he

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Speaker 4: just he knew what he needed to do, so he

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Speaker 4: hits his freight shot. We're walking around the right side

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Speaker 4: of the lake, right in front of the fifteenth green

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Speaker 4: after he almost hold his second approach shot there and

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Speaker 4: he is completely teared up, the crowds cheering him on. Uh,

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Speaker 4: he's over his putt. It's a it's a downhill left

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Speaker 4: right breaker, and I can see as he after he

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Speaker 4: puts it, it's halfway there. I see him start to

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Speaker 4: raise his that giant response putter with his left arm

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Speaker 4: to signify, hey, he's made this putt. The crowds starting

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Speaker 4: to erupt, and I kind of take a couple steps

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Speaker 4: to my side and I jump, and well, people say,

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Speaker 4: why didn't you play basketball? You jump that highway nimes

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Speaker 4: not even you know, not even stacked between the ground

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Speaker 4: and my toe. I didn't have that much here, but

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Speaker 4: it's about the highest that I've ever gotten. Of course,

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Speaker 4: he made that great putt and then made a great

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Speaker 4: birdy at sixteen and seventeen, and we had that great

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Speaker 4: embrace at eighteen pretty cool.

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Speaker 3: It was unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: Please buy the book Best Seat in the House, Jack

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Speaker 2: Nicholas the Second, Don Jaeger eighteen Golden Lessons from a

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Speaker 2: Father to his son.

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Speaker 3: We play. I'm gonna make Mike, I'm gonna ask him.

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Speaker 3: I don't care, okay, because I feel like we made

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Speaker 3: a connection here.

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Speaker 2: We play a game on this show where we have

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Speaker 2: like father son combinations come on and it's kind of

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Speaker 2: like who knows their.

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Speaker 3: Dad the best?

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Speaker 2: And I am telling you Jack the Second, that my

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Speaker 2: father has no bigger sport like he is Jack's biggest fan.

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Speaker 3: I'm certainly you've heard that a billion times.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but he is all right, and he's the reason

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Speaker 2: I love Jack, and he's the reason I love Augusta.

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Speaker 3: And my dad's the reason that I love golf.

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Speaker 2: I am asking you and your dad to play against

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Speaker 2: me and my dad in who knows their dad the

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Speaker 2: best on a future episode of this podcast.

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Speaker 3: Can we make that happen?

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Speaker 4: We can make that happen. We can, Yes, I'll tell you.

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Speaker 4: I gotta get the shout out to what happened this

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Speaker 4: past weekend with a father's son Stuart's Sake and his

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Speaker 4: son Reagan. Do he realize the similarities there of the

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Speaker 4: age Dad is forty six and eighty six and when

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Speaker 4: he won the Masters and I was twenty four. Stuart

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Speaker 4: is forty seven and his son, Reagan, I think, is

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Speaker 4: twenty three. So you want to talk at Father's on

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Speaker 4: combination is something really special? I think happy with those

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Speaker 4: two that I can sew it so resonates with me.

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Speaker 4: So father and sons are the best. I can't tell you.

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Speaker 4: And if you'd like to play that game, maybe we

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Speaker 4: invite the Sinks to join us too. It'd be fun.

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Speaker 2: That would be I'm telling you, it would be dream like.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying it towards the end of my dad's almost

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Speaker 2: eighty now. So what I'm trying to do is just

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Speaker 2: create experiences through this great job that I have where

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Speaker 2: my dad could talk to some of the people that

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Speaker 2: he considers to be legends. And so yes, having you,

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Speaker 2: Jack and the Sinks on would be incredible. And so

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Speaker 2: we we'll get it done and I'll promote the hell

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Speaker 2: out for you.

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Speaker 4: Okay, it would be appreciate you having me on.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we appreciate the time. Check out the book Best

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Speaker 2: Seat in the House. Jack Nicholas the Second, Don Jeger Jack,

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Speaker 2: thanks so much.

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Speaker 3: This is a thrill for me. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: I enjoyed it.

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Speaker 3: Guys.

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Speaker 4: Guys, you guys are great. You guys keep it lively

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Speaker 4: for sure.

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Speaker 3: Yes, wait till we get to the Father's un game. Yes,

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Speaker 3: thank you so much.

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Speaker 4: All right, I have a great game, saying please