1 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 1: Welcoming to Jags am training camp continues. They're getting ready 2 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 1: to get things going out there as we have a 3 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: preseason game to talk about, but camp continues throughout the 4 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: week as well. Welcome in. I'm ka Nannie Stevens, JP 5 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: Shaddrick joining us today and for Brian Sex and John 6 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: Oger is here as well. And for the first time 7 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 1: in about seven months, we can talk about a Jaguars 8 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 1: football game. Yes, preseason, but still exciting. So let's go 9 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 1: over some of our big things, brought to you by 10 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: g e H a Government Employee Health Association. Big Thing 11 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: number one is the first look, obviously the story of 12 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 1: the off season, the addition of Travis Hunter the wide 13 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:50,959 Speaker 1: receiver and Travis Hunter the cornerback. We got to see 14 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: you in action on both sides of the football on 15 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: Saturday night, and Meam Cohen talked a little bit postgame 16 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: about what he saw from his rookie. 17 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 2: Made a couple of good catches on some option rounds 18 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 2: and you know, miss the one tackle defensively that I noticed, 19 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 2: Like that was the only things that I, you know, 20 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 2: kind of noticed about his overall play In terms of that. 21 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 2: I'll have to watch the tape on how he operated 22 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 2: defensively a little bit more, but I thought offensively made 23 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 2: the right decisions on those option routes, made a good catch, 24 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 2: almost broke out of that one where kind of Trevor 25 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 2: put it behind him on that third down we talked about. 26 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 2: But you know, I'll have to go watch the tape 27 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 2: a little bit more to know more. 28 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: JP not a ton of action, but about ten plays 29 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 1: on offense eight plays on defense. Is going to be 30 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: doing both of this throughout the regular season. What do 31 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: you think of the first time he saw Travis ton 32 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: of out. 33 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's the first look, so at least 34 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 3: you get to see him out there. Until for the 35 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 3: first time fans got to see him on the field 36 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 3: doing a few things and as Liam Cohen said, there 37 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 3: a couple of catches. He had another catch as well, 38 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 3: it was negated by penalty, and then the mistackle running 39 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 3: back goes wide on him, tried to trip him up. 40 00:01:57,880 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 3: You know, not much in the passing game for him 41 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 3: was out there, but hey, a good start, and this 42 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 3: is a guy you're gonna have to say, WHOA instead 43 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 3: of giving up. This is up to the coaches, I 44 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 3: think KAI to really continue to manage what his workload 45 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:12,959 Speaker 3: is moving ahead. 46 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, and look at the screen right now. 47 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 5: Everybody they're practicing and they're passing training camp. 48 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 4: That's basically what the other night was JP and Kai. 49 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 5: I almost wish they wouldn't televise these preseason games or 50 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 5: even call them games, because I get that everybody wants 51 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 5: to analyze, and you know, I saw some stuff on 52 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 5: social media which shouldn't even look at Travis Hunter didn't 53 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 5: do this, and he didn't do this. He played one 54 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 5: series on each side of the ball, basically two on defense, 55 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 5: because to get me eight plays, that's the whole team. 56 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 5: This was a first look. It's a very well titled segment. 57 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,959 Speaker 5: We've got it's a first look. I thought Travis looked fine, 58 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 5: he looked quick, he got his feet wet a little bit. 59 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 5: Guess what, he's probably gonna play more than one series 60 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 5: in the regular season. Get a better chance, Dan or 61 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 5: as this kid going forward. 62 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 4: But it was fine. 63 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: I think that's a fair guest probably playing ranting. It's okay. 64 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 1: We love a John Oser rant. Big thing never do 65 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: is short and sweet. As we mentioned, we didn't see 66 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: a ton of the starters. The offense. We only saw 67 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 1: on one drive and Trevor Lawrence went six for seven, 68 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: not too bad, but they got points out of it, 69 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: no touchdown. But in terms of getting ready for the season, 70 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: Coan felt like he saw what he needed to in 71 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: the limited time to Trevor Lawns. 72 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think aside from the first play in terms 73 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 2: of I think he just was at the line with 74 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,519 Speaker 2: a can and kind of just took a little long 75 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 2: and it got us a little jumpy. But I thought, 76 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 2: aside from that, well, you look at getting through some progressions. 77 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 2: He got back to Strange on a progression for a 78 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 2: first down. That was really nice to see. I thought 79 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 2: we protected Trevor pretty well. 80 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 4: You know. 81 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 6: I thought he was accurate with the ball. 82 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 2: You know, safety made a good drive on BT on 83 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,119 Speaker 2: that one inbreaker, but the ball was kind of where 84 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 2: it needed to be, maybe. 85 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 6: A little bit more firm for him, but I thought 86 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 6: he operated a good click. 87 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:04,839 Speaker 1: John. We're gonna talk a little bit more in depth 88 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: about Trevor later on in the show. But did you 89 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: see enough from the starters in this game or are 90 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: you not a big preseason guy? 91 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 4: Oh no, I'm not a big preseason guy guy. 92 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:17,359 Speaker 5: I mean, look, you look for things that showed a 93 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 5: little progress, and you try not to panic over the 94 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 5: little things because think about it, if that was a 95 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 5: game the other night, the starters leave down seven to 96 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 5: three and you've got what fifty two minutes left, So 97 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 5: all the adjustments to use the MAK, all the game 98 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 5: planning never happened. So everybody wants to analyze this. I 99 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 5: think JP with Liam what's interesting. I'm gonna get into 100 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 5: Trevor a little later. If you listen to Liam when 101 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 5: he speaks, you're gonna know how he feels, and he's 102 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 5: gonna be honest either way. 103 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 4: He was very willing. 104 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 5: To say, guy, Trevor made the mistake on the first play, 105 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 5: but then he got into more and more. 106 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 4: They liked what they saw. 107 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 5: He was accurate, he was calling there was nothing wrong 108 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 5: with that first drive. Penalties took them out of his 109 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 5: situation to get a touchdown. I was fine with Trevor 110 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 5: in the first team offense, and then they left the game, 111 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 5: so it's okay. 112 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 3: But I mean, the one thing that you really don't 113 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 3: want to see in a preseason game is Trevor Lawrence 114 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 3: having to run with the football. When we ran right 115 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 3: up the middle, he's tackled. Go ahead first it's like, Oh, 116 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 3: put some bubble wrap on this guy. That was the 117 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 3: one thing John, I think you're spot on with everything else. 118 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 3: The passing game was there, got it out on time 119 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 3: for the most part, protected well, and checked the box 120 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 3: onto the next Let's improve it if they get out 121 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 3: there in the preseason. Let's see how how much deeper 122 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 3: into a game they get. Guy. 123 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: Everybody came out healthy, and that's the most important part 124 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 1: of the preseason. Our final big thing going to be 125 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 1: one of the highlights for me, at least from a 126 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 1: preseason matchup. That's for sure. Cam Little with a seventy 127 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 1: yard field goal doesn't count because this preseason, unfortunately, their 128 00:05:56,360 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: NFL record is sixty six yards. I think we've seen 129 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: it before. But Cam talked a little bit about the kick. 130 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 4: I it was kind of me and Logan were like, 131 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 4: we want to kick it. We want to kick it. 132 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 5: And so when he gave me the opportunity to, obviously, 133 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 5: you know, you go out there and you want to 134 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 5: at least make sure you get there and make sure 135 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 5: it's not okay, Well, we're not gonna. 136 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 4: Throw them back out there for another deep Deilger like that. 137 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 3: But we went out there and adrenaline is a beautiful thing. 138 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 4: But yeah, we went out there at the kid friend. 139 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: I say, we've seen it before from Cam Little in practice. 140 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 1: He does this on the regular obviously not in an 141 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 1: actual game, but still pretty cool to see. 142 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, big leg, we've known it coming in. 143 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 3: He had some big kicks last year for this team 144 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 3: from distance. And he even said this after the game too, 145 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 3: that you know, he's willing to bet that somebody in 146 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 3: the league is going to make a seventy plus yarder 147 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:44,919 Speaker 3: this year. It's just the way it's going to go. 148 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 3: It's trending that way. There was a rule change in 149 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 3: this offseason as well. They can work on kicking balls, 150 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 3: the k balls throughout the week now, not just sixty 151 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 3: minutes before the game. How that affects kickers? John, As 152 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 3: we move along here, it can only help them, I 153 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:02,840 Speaker 3: think with distance inaccuracy, this. 154 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 5: Was almost Bob beemanesque, and he was a long jumper 155 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 5: in the sixties who shattered the long jump record and 156 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 5: it didn't get broken for years after that. 157 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 4: It was really an outlier. 158 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 5: This seemed like an outlier statistically adding four yards to 159 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 5: the record, which it would have been had accounted is 160 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 5: usually that thing has inched up over the years. But 161 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 5: I think Cam's right when you watch these guys warm up, 162 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 5: somebody will kick seventy this year. As long as the 163 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 5: as long as the situations. You never see it except 164 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 5: the end of the half or the end of the game, 165 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 5: because if you miss it gives the other team too 166 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 5: good a field position. But if circumstances allow it. The 167 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 5: guy from Dallas, Cam, he sort of downplayed it a 168 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 5: little bit, knowing the other kickers might be watching the 169 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 5: video because he knows there's seven or eight guys out 170 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 5: there who can do this. But he was first, and 171 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 5: seventy is different than sixty eight or sixty nine, right, 172 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 5: Like seventy is that Oh goodness. 173 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 3: It's the four minute mile. Yes, it's that whole thing. 174 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, And he could have been good from seventy three 175 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: or so, saying it didn't just each over. It could 176 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: have been farther from that. Even stay with you here on Jagzam. 177 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: We're gonna look at the tape from Saturday night when 178 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: we come back. 179 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 2: Ultimately, it's it's something that takes no talent to do, 180 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 2: and you know, we we can't beat anybody. This is 181 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 2: something we've been preaching for a long time since we 182 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 2: arrived was we cannot start to beat people until we 183 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 2: stopped beating ourselves, and that has remained pretty consistent since 184 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:45,959 Speaker 2: February or wherever it's been. 185 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:48,319 Speaker 6: So, yeah, frustrating for sure. 186 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 1: Welcome back into Jagsam. That's the name Colin talking post 187 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: game after the scrimmage, not scrimmage, preseason game called scrimm, 188 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: let's not ever say it. Yeah, So there's not a 189 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: ton of things you can always take away from the preseason. 190 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: Penalties is probably one of them, though you do not 191 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 1: want to see that, and unfortunately he saw a lot 192 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 1: of them right out of the gate with the starters 193 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: in there. So some frustration from first time head coach 194 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: Liam Cohen because, as you mentioned, doesn't take any talent 195 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 1: to not break the rules. 196 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 3: We'll start on the first play, that'll wake you up. 197 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, not great. 198 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, to put him in a hole. But yeah, I 199 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 5: thought the fact they overcame that I was fine with 200 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 5: the first team offense. I sort of responded in one 201 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 5: series of forty four yard drive. 202 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 4: I think it was. 203 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:37,439 Speaker 5: My guess is that Liam had to sort of stop 204 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 5: himself from putting him back in like he sort of 205 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 5: had to remind himself, Okay, I'm the head coach. 206 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 4: I've got to look at big picture. 207 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 5: Being an offensive guy, I'm sure he sort of wanted 208 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 5: to play with that toy for a little uh, you know, 209 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 5: for two or three more series. So credit to him 210 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 5: for sort of saying, okay, and then even telling Travis 211 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 5: Hunter of Ashton, if you go back in now, we 212 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 5: have a plan for tonight, and. 213 00:09:57,640 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 4: That was the plan. 214 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 1: Temperate a little bit. Let's take a look at that 215 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,719 Speaker 1: first drive, the only drive from the offense, because at 216 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: first it looked like it was gonna be quite short. 217 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 1: They went forward on fourth down, Diamy Brown laying out 218 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 1: cornerback before he got picked up there. That was pretty impressive. 219 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:13,559 Speaker 1: Didn't know he had that in him, And nice to 220 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 1: see kind of a different fourth down play or you know, 221 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 1: some of the obviously play calling now in different hands, 222 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: it's gonna look different. But it was interesting to see 223 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: some of the stuff. Obviously Travis Hunter getting involved. He 224 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: had two catches on offense. One of them got called 225 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: back again because the penalties right there, and that kind 226 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: of hurt them in the end. Obviously they went for 227 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: a field goal at the end of this, but they 228 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:38,599 Speaker 1: couldn't get the first down, and he'll pick some of 229 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:40,719 Speaker 1: the stuff up. He doesn't look bad. It's just as 230 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 1: we mentioned women at sample sas. 231 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 5: He had two catches, if they do that six times 232 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:50,079 Speaker 5: during the game, he's gonna break one up the right. 233 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 4: So that's what he's gonna be. 234 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 5: I don't know that he's gonna be a lot of 235 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 5: catches eighteen nineteen yards down field cross. 236 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 4: Maybe he will, but it's. 237 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 5: The fear of him that he gonna have to deal 238 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 5: if he breaks away from that lookout. 239 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 3: And we saw a little bit on those highlights of 240 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 3: his body control, the way he can stop and start. 241 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 3: He slipped a little bit the other night, looked like 242 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 3: maybe a little bit of a clete issue first came 243 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 3: out adjustment. We'll see how that goes with that. I 244 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 3: don't remember anybody else slipping sliding on the field. So 245 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 3: there were a couple of cuts where he went down 246 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 3: a little bit and was trying to work. But John 247 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 3: and Kay, I think you see what he can do 248 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 3: after the catch, and like you said, I think he's 249 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 3: gonna break one at some point. 250 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 5: And then I thought that Diami Brown play was interesting. 251 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 5: You know, if that was a gimmick for this offense. 252 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 5: I don't think they show it. I think that's sort 253 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 5: of Liam Cohen's be part of what he does, that 254 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 5: sort of play, not only going for it, but having 255 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 5: the reverse involved creativity there. That wasn't his only card 256 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 5: to play on that front. It's gonna be part of 257 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 5: what they do. So it's gonna be a people who 258 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 5: want to creative, dynamic offense. They're gonna see it. 259 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 3: They're not gonna show all your cards and season week 260 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 3: one either, Ky, you gotta hold some back and. 261 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: Fans have been dying for the creativity. So at least 262 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: we've got a little tiny sneak peek. First team off 263 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 1: first team defense, though not great, not going into panic mode, 264 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: but it did look porouse at times, and we're all 265 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: a little sensitive after last year. I'm sure I have 266 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: to imagine this will be addressed at some point this week. 267 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 4: Well, Liams said afterwards. 268 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:27,319 Speaker 5: Okay, Williams said afterward they were playing AWF a little 269 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 5: too much, you know. 270 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 4: So look, this is one drive. 271 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 5: If if it had been over and over again, you'd 272 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 5: be really concerned. 273 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 4: If it's October, you'd be really concerned. 274 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 5: It can't look like this, obviously, you know, but it 275 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 5: starts played nine to plays. Let's keep it in perspective. Uh, 276 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 5: the game is about adjustments. They're gonna give up a 277 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 5: first drive touchdownt some point this year. It's how you 278 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 5: respond to this. In this kind of preseason JP, you 279 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 5: don't have a chance to respond. 280 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: You know. 281 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 3: It's more basic than preseason offense preseason defense. Basically lining up, 282 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 3: there's not they're not running blitzes, they're not running exotic looks, 283 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 3: they're not running all these shifts in the secondary, all 284 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 3: these things that you normally would do. It's a very 285 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 3: basic look for preseason week one. It's not ideal. You 286 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 3: don't want it long term like that, but it's one 287 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 3: step in a progression to get ready for week one. 288 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 3: So I say, we'll get to this later. Don't freak 289 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 3: out about one game. 290 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: I will say, Darnel Washington is a massive human being. 291 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 1: So if Tyson Campbell was there, I don't know if 292 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: that was gonna help you. 293 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 3: The best matchup you're saying, right. 294 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: Basically the best tackle on the field at this point. Anyway, 295 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: Let's take a look at camb Little's kick once more, 296 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 1: because why not, and also just the reaction from the sideline. 297 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 1: You love to see that obviously, just kind of we 298 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: talking a little bit about kind of the culture and 299 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: what they're building. But you couldn't not smile and he 300 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 1: saw that because that was just awesome. 301 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 5: Well, I thought the reaction showed something maybe we feel 302 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 5: around here, but it's hard to. 303 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:00,839 Speaker 4: Talk fans to see it. 304 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 5: He's part of the team, right, and sometimes kickers are 305 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:05,959 Speaker 5: like the leave it alone guy. 306 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 4: This guy is part of the building. 307 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:12,319 Speaker 5: He did the really cool throwback commercial for Jaguars Media. 308 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 5: This guy is part of it around here, and you 309 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 5: can see how happy they all. 310 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 3: Were for him. 311 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 4: What a cool moment. 312 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 5: And you don't remember that ny preseason moments. That's when 313 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 5: you remember for a lot. I can't tell you what 314 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 5: happened in twenty nineteen, you'll remember that one. 315 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 3: Cool yeah. And he is a weapon for this team 316 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 3: and for the coaching staff. They know that they can 317 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 3: pretty much lean on three points if they're within fifty 318 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 3: five yards or you know, or so that seems like 319 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 3: an almost slam dunk, which is a nice weapon to 320 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 3: have in your back pocket, especially in some tight football games, 321 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 3: which most are in the National Football League. Also on 322 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 3: this in the celebration, it might have been the most 323 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 3: athletic played Travis Hunter made all night long. I mean 324 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 3: the height he got on the jump is amazing. So 325 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 3: that's it was you a little bit more of what 326 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 3: Travis under can do. Also, it shows what Travis can 327 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 3: be for this locker room too, like he's the first 328 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 3: guy out there, meaning with the kicker. That was really 329 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 3: cool to see. 330 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: Let's do one more play from the game. I'm not 331 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: going to get two into the weeds here, but basell 332 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: toot and we've talked a ton about the running back 333 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: room and what we like to see out of them 334 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: tooting very fast, but on this touchdown drive, it's just 335 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 1: always cool. And to see the offensive line get involved 336 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: in he keeps his legs moving and they push him in. 337 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: We put so much pressure on getting this offensive line right, 338 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: being more physical obviously preseason whatnot. But this is a 339 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: fundamental that they want to instill in everybody on the 340 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: team and you can see it. 341 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think as much as a fundamental, I think 342 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 5: it's a it's an attitude to you can't fake that 343 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 5: that's the backup line or the third but clearly they 344 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 5: know inside the running back room, the offense, the offensive 345 00:15:55,880 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 5: line they know what the mission is. Liam Cohen has 346 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 5: said it over and over again. He knows they can't 347 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 5: win in this league unless they run better. So to me, 348 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 5: this play showed that the message, the theme, the storyline, 349 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 5: whatever that is, it's not only being heard, it's in 350 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 5: them when they're playing. So I thought that was a 351 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 5: cool sign that maybe it's easy to miss because it 352 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 5: happened so late in the game, but they're hearing it. 353 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 4: And Nathan, you hear We talked for years. 354 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: About I think so important for a team to be on. 355 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 5: The same page and to be hearing the coach. To me, 356 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 5: that's ninety percent of this league. To me, this kind 357 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 5: of showed you they're hearing it right now. 358 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's for me. It's a full organization push 359 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 3: back towards that. I mean, it started with obviously the 360 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 3: coaching change, but then the strength and conditioning staff changed 361 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 3: as well. Obviously the front office changed, with one of 362 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 3: the best tackles in league history involved in the decision making. 363 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 3: Now that kind of is where it all begins. And 364 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 3: then the coaching staff Liam Cohen, we want to be 365 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 3: that physical presence up front, and yes, improved the running game, 366 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 3: but it all starts with the five guys in the field, 367 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 3: on the offensive line, the running game, and in the 368 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 3: passing game, and there have been some holes there over 369 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 3: the last few years. That mentality is at every layer 370 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:19,679 Speaker 3: of this organization. And yes it's one preseason game, but 371 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:23,199 Speaker 3: that one play I think shows that they're taking steps 372 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 3: in the right direction in that front. And there's still 373 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 3: a lot of time and a lot of decisions to 374 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 3: be made on the offensive line. 375 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 5: And not to overplay it, but it may have shown 376 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 5: something in toot And then I'm not sure a lot 377 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:37,679 Speaker 5: of people thought about he's here because of his unbelievable speed, 378 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 5: you know. 379 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 4: That wasn't he get starters, blah blah blah. 380 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 5: But it showed some grit that I don't know if 381 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 5: the scouting report said grit as much as it said 382 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,479 Speaker 5: speed for him, so interesting twist with him. 383 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, and if you can show that you're multifaceted, gets 384 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:55,679 Speaker 1: some more playing time as well. Stays here on jag Zam. 385 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: We're going to give you our hot takes when we 386 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: come back after the break. Welcome back into jag z 387 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: Am today. Our hot takes are going to be brought 388 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: to you by firehouse Steps. 389 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 7: You know, it's it is intentional. We have so many playmakers. 390 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 7: You want to get them all involved and early and 391 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 7: like guys get the rock and do something with it. 392 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 7: So I think that is intentional for sure. And then 393 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 7: there's times where the ball just kind of finds finds 394 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 7: guys more than others. I think in games like this, 395 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 7: obviously you want to see you want to spread the 396 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 7: ball around, you want to get guys touches, get them 397 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 7: going and kind of see what see what we can do. 398 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:39,919 Speaker 7: But I thought the guy's a nice job. Obviously we 399 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 7: had the one drive, so it's hard to really evaluate 400 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 7: beyond that. But yeah, I thought the guys did a 401 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 7: good job. When they're number it was called. 402 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 1: Welcome back into jag Zam. Things underway at training camp today. 403 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 1: They have some game to look at from over the 404 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 1: weekend and they're getting back into things. Obviously, we have 405 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 1: tons of thoughts about the preseason. Clearly, John, what's a 406 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:01,679 Speaker 1: hot take have for us from the preseason? 407 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 5: Well, that I'm a lot more optimistic about Trevor after 408 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 5: that game than I think a lot of fans would expect. 409 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 5: I've been stunned by the reaction after the game from 410 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 5: a lot of fans in the ozone talking about you know, 411 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 5: oh it's the same guy. 412 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 4: He didn't look good. He looked fine. 413 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 5: I mean, he didn't look spectacular, but he was six 414 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 5: for seven and I thought even more than that, I'm 415 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 5: anxious to see what Liam says today after practice about 416 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 5: how Trevor looked, because to me, it seemed like he 417 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:36,679 Speaker 5: was going through in a couple of plays, the progressions 418 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 5: they're talking about. He came off a couple of receivers 419 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:42,640 Speaker 5: and went to where it looked like he was going 420 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 5: to the right spot. It looked like he was following 421 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 5: his footwork that he's been working so much on, and 422 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 5: that's what you want to see. You want to see 423 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,679 Speaker 5: the things they're working on. You know, they wanted to 424 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 5: be here. He say he was here. He's not gonna 425 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 5: be here right away, but you want to see in 426 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 5: that first game that he's moving toward that. I thought 427 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 5: it looked like that, and if what I thought I 428 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 5: saw is real, there's no more important story in that game. 429 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 4: So I was fine with how he played. 430 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 5: I didn't expect in one series to see you know, dynamic, 431 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 5: you know, unbelievable. 432 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 4: But solid is what you want right now from him. 433 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 4: Solid growth. 434 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, we impressed. Are you in the panic moment? 435 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 3: I'm not in panic mode with Trevor. I think John 436 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 3: spot on with this. I think that it's a progression. 437 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 3: It has been all off season, by the way, And 438 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 3: he answered your question John, whenever he talked last before 439 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 3: the games. Yeah, from day one of the off season 440 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 3: program when he first got the offense to now, he 441 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 3: felt like he's made some strides and thws have to 442 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 3: continue to see that go. And he's been putting the 443 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 3: time in the effort. He's seeing a little bit of 444 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 3: the results. And they didn't earlier this week. Remember they 445 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 3: had the bad day on Tuesday, bounce back on Wednesday, 446 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 3: had a better day offensively as a whole, And I 447 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 3: think he has a lot to do with that. 448 00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 5: All Right, they're behind the sticks a lot of that drive. 449 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,360 Speaker 5: Get them to a drive where they get a couple 450 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 5: of second threes. They can do some play action into 451 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 5: any of that. So look one series and then you're 452 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 5: trying to draw all these conclusions off of it. 453 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 3: This is what we do. This is what we do. Now. 454 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 5: I get media, I get the reason for doing it, 455 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 5: but you're gonna be wrong a lot and it's just 456 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 5: too small a sample size to judge a lot, But 457 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 5: I like that feeling you got of being in control 458 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 5: from Trevor there. 459 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: JP. What's your hot take for us? 460 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 3: I have a take about the defense, and I know 461 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 3: they were awful last year. They stunk a season ago defensively, 462 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 3: thirty first in the league, almost across the board in 463 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 3: every metric, last in takeaways only nine for the season. 464 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 3: That's bad. I mean, they it was so bad they've 465 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 3: they fired everybody, right, it was that bad. This is 466 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 3: a new era, this is a new defense. Anthony Campinelli 467 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 3: is a new coordinator. They've got a lot of new 468 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 3: players on the back end. They've got some standout, stand 469 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 3: by players who's been around for a while that key 470 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 3: positions on the defensive line and the linebacker. And that's 471 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 3: cool and they're good players. Give them some time. Don't 472 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 3: lose it over two drives one drive for the starters 473 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:16,439 Speaker 3: in the preseason game when they're playing off and playing basic. 474 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 3: I think this person you're looking at right here, Anthony Campanelli. 475 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,199 Speaker 3: He's gonna have some tricks up his sleeve when the 476 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 3: season comes. I think they're going to figure out the 477 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 3: secondary with veteran players who know where they're supposed to 478 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 3: be and can help everybody else on the field be 479 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,679 Speaker 3: where they're supposed to be and go make plays in 480 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 3: the football. Don't freak out about the defense after one 481 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 3: preseason game. That's my hot take. 482 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 1: Often them all around today. I love this. Keep out 483 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 1: of panic mode. This is a good thing. And I 484 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: will say, at least for me, I thought the defense 485 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 1: looked not great in the preseason game as well. But 486 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: I think part of my frustration at least last year 487 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: was I feel like the defense didn't look great and 488 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: then we saw no change. It just continued. I expect 489 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: we are going to see some significant change because even 490 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,880 Speaker 1: just postgame hearing from Leam and he was like, yeah, 491 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 1: that wasn't good enough. We can't be doing that. So 492 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: just some feeling everybody's on the same page. You don't 493 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 1: feel crazy. You're like, Okay, they saw what I saw, 494 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: Like we're gonna address this. Like that gives me hope 495 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 1: alone and again preseason I'm gonna go slightly different, still 496 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 1: very optimistic. Kim Little coming back onto the field that 497 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: was down there for sideline reporting for the radio broadcast, 498 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:22,880 Speaker 1: and the first thing he said what I was say, 499 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: congratulations to him, and he said, I'm so mad that 500 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,400 Speaker 1: it's the preseason. It doesn't count. And I think it's 501 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: fair to say I think someone's gonna break it this year. Jpno, 502 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 1: you have some theories about this. I think Cam Little 503 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 1: has a very good Kim Little's gonna have the opportunity 504 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 1: to break it is how I'm gonna put it, because 505 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 1: I think Leam Cohen trusts him. He's gonna give him 506 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: that opportunity, and he's not scared to give him that 507 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 1: opportunity because part of this is, you know, you don't 508 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 1: want to give up that field position to your opponent. 509 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 1: As we mentioned, I think Cam Little will have that 510 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 1: opportunity to season or kick. 511 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,239 Speaker 3: Six the other way Jamal Agnew or Yeah, well, that 512 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 3: kind of thing you don't want to happen. But it's 513 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 3: got to be a certain situation. John talked about it earlier. 514 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 3: It's got to be the end of the half or 515 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 3: the game. You gotta really trust them. If that's to 516 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 3: win a game, well, I mean that's a long way away. 517 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 3: Even if you might only need a field goal. Okay, 518 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 3: if it's coming down to that, what's the better percentage? 519 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 3: Then you're getting into analytics and everything. That go with that, 520 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,880 Speaker 3: and you're down the path a little bit. I mentioned 521 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 3: a little bit of this earlier, and I'm not taking 522 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 3: away anything. It's a seventy yard field goal, for goodness sakes. 523 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 3: I don't care what the ball looks like or what 524 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 3: the conditions were. Seventy yards It's never been done in 525 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 3: the NFL preseason, regular season, or otherwise. However, there was 526 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 3: a rule change this offseason where you remember, now the 527 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 3: quarterbacks can work on their game balls all week long 528 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,919 Speaker 3: and put mud on them and scuff them and whatever 529 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,479 Speaker 3: they need to do. They check the pressure, of course, 530 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 3: as we know before the game. But they changed the 531 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 3: rule for kickers this year. There's a different ball, the 532 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 3: k ball for kickers, and it was the rule at 533 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 3: least recently where you can only work on them from 534 00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:00,400 Speaker 3: an hour until kickoff. That's the only time kick cold 535 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 3: touch the footballs that they use. That's changed. They can 536 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 3: work on their caballs all week long, get them ready. 537 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 3: I think there'd be a little bit of that you 538 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 3: can have. You know, different kickers will have different specifications 539 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 3: they want their caballs to be, and I think that 540 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,639 Speaker 3: will only help performance. Now, I'm not taking again anything 541 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,360 Speaker 3: away from a seventy yard field goal. But I think 542 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,119 Speaker 3: it could be broken multiple times this year, and that's 543 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 3: I think just part of the reason. 544 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 5: Why John Yeah, and Cam said it after he was 545 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,640 Speaker 5: very a matter of fact that he believes it's gonna 546 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 5: get broken and if it gets broken, will have multiple times. 547 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 5: I think one reason that Cam's gonna have a chance 548 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 5: to break it is I think Liam things is pretty cool. 549 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's like, yeah, so he won't. 550 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 5: Liam can't and won't let that dictate. He's not gonna 551 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 5: go out there with eight minutes to go in the 552 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,880 Speaker 5: first quarter, and let you know, Cam tried from seventy eight. 553 00:25:57,880 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 4: He's not gonna be stupid. 554 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 5: But I think he will lean toward hey, yeah, let's 555 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 5: give him a shot, because there's also an element of 556 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 5: adrenaline that it gives it. You know, you saw it 557 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 5: the other night. This team likes this kid. It fires 558 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 5: up the teammates. If he can hit from seventy one, 559 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,159 Speaker 5: there's a big boost going into the second you're going 560 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 5: in the second half. So I do think Liam is 561 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 5: going to think about that and maybe reshape a little 562 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 5: bit how he thinks at the end of half. 563 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 3: I love Cam little after the gate too. He said, 564 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:35,719 Speaker 3: you know, the fifty something yarder after that's even tougher 565 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 3: now too, because hey, I just made one from seventy 566 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,880 Speaker 3: Now I've expected it all the time, like fifty three. 567 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 3: That's what it is. That's the expectation is going to 568 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 3: continue to rise form. It's already high anyway. We know 569 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 3: he can make the long kicks and is consistent with that, 570 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:53,400 Speaker 3: but how far is the limit? So far, it's seventy yards. 571 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 3: We'll see what the regular season. 572 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 4: Well, it is very interesting. 573 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 5: We saw it go over from seventy four, right, I mean, 574 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 5: like that kick would have been good for seventy four. 575 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 5: Cam kind of laughed at the end of it and 576 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,120 Speaker 5: he's like, you know, I don't know how much more 577 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:07,400 Speaker 5: I got. 578 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:09,160 Speaker 4: Like that might be. 579 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:14,399 Speaker 5: Let's not talk eighty here, but it does change your 580 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 5: dynamic at the end of games. That's about fifteen more 581 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 5: yards than maybe you would have normally thought four or 582 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,880 Speaker 5: five years ago that you got to get to somebody's 583 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 5: gonna hit a seventy two yard game winning field goal 584 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 5: this year or something like that in these next couple. 585 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 3: Of years, and also when the regular season comes, I 586 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 3: think the field goal block teams will be a little 587 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,120 Speaker 3: more aware of this when it's a seventy yard field goal, 588 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 3: the push up the middle, there might be more designed 589 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 3: for that in a situation like this, and we didn't 590 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 3: see a lot up the middle against the Steelers. That's fine. 591 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 3: He still got it cleared the line and made the kick. 592 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 3: There was a little pressure from his left that got through, 593 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 3: but he got the kick away. I think in the 594 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 3: regular season, when it's full go and they know what's coming, 595 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 3: I think there's gonna be a little more of a 596 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 3: push to to block a field goal like that because 597 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 3: it does have to come down director just a little bit. 598 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 1: And here from special teams coordinator he Firewell letter today. 599 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: I'm curious what his thoughts on absolutely might be. Say 600 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 1: with us one more break here in Jagszam, we'll tell 601 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 1: you what's coming up the rest of the week. Jags fans, 602 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,120 Speaker 1: you want customize Jaguars furniture for your home, check out 603 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 1: zipchair dot com to browse all the customizable options. Zipchair 604 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 1: is furniture fans, You. 605 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 2: Know, those are some things when you're playing a new system, right, 606 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 2: They've been playing a lot of man coverage over the 607 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 2: last year here and playing a lot more his own coverage, 608 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 2: so oftentimes you almost start to do too much the 609 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 2: other way, where we're giving up a lot of grass 610 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 2: in a little bit of room. So I imagine we're going 611 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 2: to want to ask these guys to get a little stickier, 612 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 2: you know, a little bit. 613 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: Stick a lot of defense. I think that'll be a 614 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 1: focused this week. I like that description. Make sure enough 615 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,959 Speaker 1: Travis center on defense right now. Probably switch over at 616 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 1: some point maybe in teams period later on. But we 617 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 1: didn't see a ton from him on defense. He had 618 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 1: that one mistackle that everybody's going to talk about, I'm sure. 619 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 1: But also I'm curious because we only saw him to 620 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 1: play what eight plays, how they'll actually use him because 621 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 1: I think in an actual game, I don't know if 622 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: he's going to be out there all the time in 623 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 1: every situation. It might be when it's a little more 624 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 1: red zone esque for the opposing team, but again we'll. 625 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 3: See, Yeah, you know, it depends on the opponent, depends 626 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 3: on how they play their style offensively. If the Ravens 627 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 3: come in, you may not see him in power running 628 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 3: situations a lot. I mean that just kind of makes 629 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 3: sense to me. So could come in depending on the situation. 630 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 3: Third and long maybe, Okay, multiple receivers you're out there, 631 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 3: and the nickel and dime packages. Absolutely, I think that's 632 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 3: just a work in progress. And it was the same 633 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 3: to be said for offense too. He's going to be 634 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 3: out there, but is he out there in certain packages? 635 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 3: He's leam ConA said already John that he's only working 636 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 3: on certain personnel groups so far so far, but that's 637 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 3: gonna grow and we'll see how fast that grows as 638 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 3: the season approaches. 639 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think defensively, and I got a couple of 640 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 5: questions about you know the quote unquote mistackle, but he's 641 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 5: not bringing the hammer on defense, right, That's not what 642 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 5: this kid is. I think I even thought on the 643 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 5: play he got in the backfield and sort of made 644 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 5: the guy change directions, and he needs to come up 645 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 5: and you know, clean up that play. 646 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 4: Afterward. He's gonna play a lot. 647 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 5: On defense and get off the field situations, and I 648 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 5: think he'll be fine in those situations. Also, remember with him, 649 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 5: this is still his first NFL game. It's his first 650 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:41,719 Speaker 5: time sort of. 651 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 1: I know he's done the. 652 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 5: Fourth and back thing, but he's trying to figure out 653 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 5: how they're gonna use him in real time. With the 654 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 5: lights on, He's going to be fine and bring them 655 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 5: what they expect, and he'll play a lot on defense early. 656 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 5: But as you alluded to, not necessarily first series where 657 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 5: he's in on every play of that series. 658 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 4: Over the course of. 659 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 5: A game, he'll be in all of the situations they 660 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 5: wanted to be in. 661 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 1: John No preseason. Our second preseason game is next Sunday 662 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 1: in New Orleans, you imagine. Obviously, practice reps are huge 663 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 1: for Liiam Cohen. He feels like can get a lot work, 664 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 1: a lot of work done during practice time because we 665 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 1: only have that one joint practice next week. Feel like 666 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 1: some of the practice this week might be a bigger 667 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 1: deal to them and trying to see what they need 668 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 1: to see before the season. 669 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know, I think so it will be 670 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 5: interesting to see what they do in the next couple 671 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,719 Speaker 5: of weeks. You would think with a joint practice in 672 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 5: Miami in Week three that they wouldn't play a lot 673 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 5: in that game because the theory right now in the 674 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 5: NFL is you play a lot of your guys in 675 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 5: joint practice and then play your backups. So that would 676 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 5: lead me to believe they're gonna play quite a bit 677 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 5: on Sunday. But we haven't seen how Liam operates yet, 678 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 5: so you know, I don't know. 679 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 4: I wish I had a better answer. 680 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 3: Let's see what the apparently gonna put some kind of 681 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 3: scrimmage out there later in the week. What does that entail? 682 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 3: How many reps are they going hard? Like? What's the 683 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 3: you know, how does that add up leading into Sunday. 684 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,959 Speaker 3: It is good though that this is almost a normal 685 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 3: game week. You know, with a game on Sunday, extra day, 686 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,479 Speaker 3: you can kind of get into a regular practice, oh 687 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 3: somewhat regular practice routine. There's still somewhat in camp, but 688 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 3: then all of a sudden, Sunday one o'clock you're in 689 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 3: the Superdome. 690 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: Let's do it all right, jag XAM is back to 691 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 1: our normal schedule, being back on Wednesday and Thursday this 692 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 1: week as we have training camp continues. Jp kmkster filling in. 693 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 3: This is what the morning's like the rooster Crowe today 694 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 3: and here I am. 695 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 1: You read a lot of morning energy. All right, love it, 696 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 1: all right, We'll see you on Wednesday.