1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in the final hour Tuesday 3 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 1: hanging out with us. Encourage you to go make sure 5 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:17,479 Speaker 1: that you subscribe to the Clay Travis buck Sexton Podcast 6 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: so you do not miss a moment of the show, 7 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:22,920 Speaker 1: particularly as we come up on the holiday season. Kids 8 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: getting out of school soon, lots of travel. You may 9 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: well be all over the place. You can take us 10 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: with you wherever we go. Also want to thank you. 11 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: Saw data the other day top ten biggest markets that 12 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: have us. We set an all time high for the 13 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:41,319 Speaker 1: number of you that are streaming the show and that 14 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: was at the end of November. So thank you for 15 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: everybody out there who is streaming. Certainly we love all 16 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: of you at the four hundred and fifty stations nationwide 17 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 1: listening on traditional radios. Podcast however you are finding us, 18 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: We're glad you're with us as we are joined by 19 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: Stephen Miller and Stephen when Buck and Ice awe the 20 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: great work that's being done right now by Bill Mulusion 21 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:08,119 Speaker 1: down on the border. He works for Fox News. It feels, 22 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: oftentimes like he's the only journalist down there showing the 23 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 1: situation in El Paso, Texas with a thousand people essentially 24 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 1: waiting to come across the border. It's never been this bad. 25 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: How much worse do you think it's going to get 26 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 1: as we come up on the end of this year 27 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: and begin twenty twenty three. Well, first, let me also 28 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 1: agree with you about Bill Mulujian and what an invaluable 29 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: service he's providing. It's a huge indictment of the entire 30 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: media and corporate press in this country that, with a 31 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: handful of minor exceptions, Bill is the only one down there, reporting, 32 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: providing imagery, providing video, and it shows you the media 33 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: is not interested first and foremost in profit, but in ideology. 34 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: Because imagine how much better the ratings would be on 35 00:01:55,680 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: our dying nightly news programs if they sent cameras down 36 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: there too and spend their whole broadcast talking about what's 37 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: happening on our border. They would double triple the ratings 38 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: from Americans seeing this for the first time. But they're 39 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: not going to do that, of course. To answer your question, 40 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 1: the scariest thing is that there's no limit to how 41 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 1: bad it can get. This is the fundamental mass problem 42 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: of illegal immigration and how we have to change the 43 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: way we think about it. And what I mean by 44 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: that is this for most of the last fifty years, 45 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: so we're actually even going back further. Basically to the 46 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: Eisenhower administration, illegal immigration was a bilateral problem between Mexico 47 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: and the United States, where Mexican illegal immigrants, mostly single 48 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 1: adult males, would come to the United States, and this 49 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 1: was of course a significant problem, but it was also 50 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: a manageable problem. Then would started happening with the availability 51 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 1: of mass transit, the ability of people to be able 52 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: to come from pretty much any country in the world 53 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: and get to Mexico even with only a relatively small 54 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: amount of money. Open this thing up to the whole 55 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: of planet Earth. So now you have a situation where 56 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: there's a few billion people in the world whose financial 57 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 1: situation would be bettered they come in to the United 58 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: States and even working for half of a minimum wage, 59 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: that would double or triple the incomes they've been living 60 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,399 Speaker 1: in on their whole lives. Plus free medical care, free education, 61 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: free everything. So there's no limit long story short to 62 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: how bad it can get, and it will get unless 63 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: the new Republican House can step in. How do we 64 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: change this situation? Stephen, you know you really were somebody 65 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: who during the Trump administration we could count on you 66 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: when you'd speak of this issue of immigration, where there's 67 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: so much speaking of disinformation that's out there, and honestly, 68 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: so many obfuscations and lies the Democrats tell on this issue. 69 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: One of the biggest ones is that they wanted to stop. 70 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: I don't believe they wanted to stop at all. I 71 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: think that's become abundantly clear. What does it look like 72 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: to make it stop? How do we change the incentive 73 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: structure that you just laid out. Well, fortunately you'ven in 74 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: divided exactly the right person on your show to answer 75 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: that question. And there's only one thing, not two, not three, 76 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: not four. There's one thing that has to be done, 77 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: and that is that we have to get a spending 78 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 1: bill that is short term in the next year. So 79 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: that means forty one Republican senators have to block the OMNY. 80 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 1: And I'll return to that point in the second fief 81 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: of time. So you end up in say January February, 82 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: You've got a new House. Government funding is going to expire, 83 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: and you have to attach to it this appropriations bill 84 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: what in Congress talk we call an appropriations writer, and 85 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,919 Speaker 1: that extra policy. That writer would say, in some an effect, 86 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: none of the funds in this Act or any other 87 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: act shall be used to release any unlawful alien into 88 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:53,039 Speaker 1: the United States. So you would be creating a federal 89 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: prohibition against a single federal dollar being spent to release 90 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 1: any illegal immigrants. So that would be a criminal act 91 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: if anyone in the administration releases anybody, that's a crime. 92 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: So you're require to use the tools in our laws 93 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: be they remain in Mexico, are safe. Third agreements, and 94 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 1: our extra better removal procedure is to deport anyone, or 95 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 1: Title forty two to deport anybody that you encounter. In 96 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: every single instance, any member of Congress who's talking right 97 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: now about giving Biden more resources, more immigration judges, more anything, 98 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 1: is complicit in the problem. Because if you hand a 99 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: torch to an arsonist, they're just going to burn things down. 100 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: Biden will use every extra border agent, every extra helicopter, 101 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: every extra jeep, every extra bed, every extra everything to 102 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: get more legal immigrants further and deeper and more quickly 103 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: into the United States. Biden inherited a system of flawless deportation. 104 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 1: I know because it was what I was doing every 105 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 1: single day. I'd be on the phone in the morning 106 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: with the State Department, say we got a group of 107 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: fifty unaccompanied alien minors from six different countries. That morning, 108 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 1: we'd be on the phone with your embassies saying, we've 109 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: got kids. Get your shelters open, find their families, find 110 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 1: their relatives. We'll get in the plane. We're chartering a flight. 111 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 1: They're gonna be here tomorrow. And you do that three 112 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 1: or four days in a row, and they stopped coming. Now, 113 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: we don't have the time that would take from you 114 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 1: to talk through all the regulations and all the policies 115 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:26,359 Speaker 1: and all the memoranda and all the court fights. They 116 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: had to get to that point. But matters is, we 117 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: got to that point so that by twenty twenty, no 118 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: one in this country could stop us from deporting people 119 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 1: who came here illegally. And we were doing it, and 120 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 1: the Biden came in and he tore it all down 121 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: on purpose. Everything that's happened for two years is deliberate, 122 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: and any member of Congress who doesn't understand that is 123 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 1: part of the problem. What Biden it needs are not 124 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: tools but handcuffs. Handcuffs that stop him and his administration 125 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: from releasing anyone else into this country. Stephen, you and 126 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 1: I were on Sean Hannity Show, I believe together, if 127 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 1: I remember correctly, right after one of the Twitter file revelations, 128 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: and you said something that I then brought on this 129 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: show and echoed. I want to give you an opportunity 130 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: to make the case for this audience as well that 131 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: we must have primetime hearings associated with the Twitter file revelations. 132 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: Why is that important, what should it look like, and 133 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: what do you think the impact would be if the 134 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: House Republicans make it happen. Yes, this is critically important. 135 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: Thank you for bringing this up. So the people who 136 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: watch congressional hearings during the day are people like us 137 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: and your viewers and listeners. There's a massive portion of 138 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: this country who are not sitting around at eleven o'clock 139 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: flipping through the cable channels watching the day's hearings or 140 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: c SPAN or Republican hearings are relegated to. And we 141 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: know from the coverage of the Twitter files that there 142 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:49,679 Speaker 1: will be no coverage of any of these hearings. Whatever 143 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: people see or here will be filtered through their media intermediaries. 144 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: So the only way to get information of this existential 145 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: importance about the survival of free society is to copy 146 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: from what they did with their January sixth Select Committee. 147 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: You care about democracy, well, nothing is more important than 148 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: the survival of the First Semendment, and you hold primetime 149 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: hearings that nobody can ignore, that nobody can avoid. If 150 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: I'm making a select committee, you ensure that you put 151 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: your best members on it who can get to the point. 152 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 1: Because the problem with some of these hearings, however well 153 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: intentional they are, we have seventy members of Congress showing up. 154 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: You'll lose the plot pretty quickly after the first three questioners, 155 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 1: and the next four hours is kind of inscrutable in 156 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 1: many cases. So the Democrats have established the president, it's 157 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: now up to Republicans to follow it. Speaking to Stephen 158 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 1: Miller was a senior advisor to former President Trump in 159 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: the White House, Stephen, I wanted to know what you 160 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: think about what we're seeing right now with president former 161 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: President Trump's announcement, and just have you talked to him, 162 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: how's his mindset? You know, there's a lot of people 163 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: throwing polls or round right now, A lot of early 164 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,959 Speaker 1: talk about how this is looking. What do you see 165 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 1: with the Trump twenty twenty four situation as it stands 166 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: right now? Oh? I mean, I've lived through this cycle 167 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: of the media trying to cast a negative shout shadows 168 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: so many times they can't even recall. The truth is 169 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 1: is that no matter who you talk to, it's clear 170 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: to everybody that President Trump is inherently the mega favorite 171 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: going into any Republican primary, and that the issues that 172 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 1: he ran on in twenty sixteen and twenty twenty have 173 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 1: now been proven so right and to such an extent 174 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: that the argument for his reelection is greater now and 175 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: stronger now than it even was in his first election 176 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 1: or the twenty twenty campaign. And I return even to 177 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: the course the issue that we started with today, which 178 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: is border and immigration. People don't realize how many wars 179 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: you have to go to to secure the border. In 180 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: other words, you don't just have to fight every single 181 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: deep state lunatic inside your own government and all the 182 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: corporate press and all the Saffies in Congress, but you 183 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: have to fight every single foreign country that does not 184 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: want to participate, does not want to play at all. 185 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 1: The one thing I think people oftentimes don't even realize 186 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: when it comes to legal immigration is that every country 187 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,839 Speaker 1: has a veto power over you. Is they shut down 188 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 1: their airport. If Guatemala says we're not taking any legal 189 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 1: alien families, we know we're poor, We're broke, we can't 190 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: handle it. We can't pay for them airport clothes. Well, 191 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 1: where do you send them? Where do you fly them? 192 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: Where did they go? We had to literally work and 193 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: maneuver every country, not just in our hemisphere, but we 194 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: were working countries in Africa, in Asia, in the Middle 195 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 1: East to get these planes back home while fighting a 196 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:55,199 Speaker 1: lateral battle against the night and start get against Congress 197 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 1: and against the Deep State, and every one of our agencies, who, 198 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 1: if they had their way, would grant the asylum to 199 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: every single human being setting foot across that border. You 200 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: want to put this genie back in the bottle. You're 201 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: gonna need a Donald Trump back in the White House 202 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 1: or it's not happening, Stephen. We had Ann Coulter specifically 203 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: on and it got people fired up. As you can 204 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: well imagine that's her job. She said, Trump, we have 205 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 1: to move on from Trump, and she effectively started making 206 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: the argument for Da Santis. When you hear people say that, 207 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 1: as somebody who was a Trump guy, what do you 208 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:32,559 Speaker 1: think about the argument of Trump's got one term left, 209 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,199 Speaker 1: given his age, it's time for him to move on 210 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: and somebody like ron Da Santis, another generation should come along. 211 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: That's the argument she made last week. How would you 212 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: characterize that argument? What would you say in response to it? Well, 213 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: I think the generational argument cuts in the other direction, 214 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 1: which is that President Trump would be uniquely able to 215 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: come into office and hit the ground running because we 216 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: picked up exactly where we left off, and we immediately 217 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: number one, re implement the pauls we have put into place, 218 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 1: and the number two we had. We have an entire shelf, 219 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: a stableful of executive orders and policies that take it 220 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: to the next level, whether it be getting rid of 221 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: birthright citizenship, or completing the job of decoupling from China, 222 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 1: and so many other issues, completing net or reform, so 223 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: many other issues that you would be able to complete immediately. 224 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 1: And the message that we sent to the world on 225 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: day one is that we are going to snap back 226 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: instantly to these America first policies. Every world leader around 227 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: the world knows where we'll stand. It will be able 228 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: to move at lightning speed. And to your point, because 229 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: it would be the second of only two available terms, 230 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: you'd have to spend the second half of your first 231 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: term worrying about reelection or worrying about campaigning, so you 232 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: would be able to have a remarkable degree of efficiency. 233 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: And then of course, at the end of that term, 234 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: then that's when you, of course would be able to 235 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:52,079 Speaker 1: hand off to a new generation of leaders. And so yeah, 236 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:55,079 Speaker 1: I think the generational argument works almost exactly in the 237 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: opposite direction. Good stuff as always, Stephen Miller at Stephen 238 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: m on Twitter, fantastic idea on the Primetime hearings. We'll 239 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 1: have you on again soon. I hope everything's going well. 240 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: You finished season five at Cobra Kai. You're good. You 241 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: caught up now and everyone who hasn't already get onto 242 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,319 Speaker 1: Netflix and watch it. You will not regret it that 243 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 1: season yet. Thank you, Thank you Stephen joining us Claire, 244 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: it's gonna say, you know, on your recommendation, I'm now 245 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: almost at season five of Yellowstone, but they should really 246 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:27,559 Speaker 1: call it Seal Team six Yellowstone, like things really get 247 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:31,079 Speaker 1: get pretty wild. And the Yellowstone Ranch, I'm like, aren't 248 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: people usually just walking around feeding the feeding the steers, 249 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: hay and stuff. There's a lot of m four action. 250 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 1: I don't even know how many people have been murdered 251 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: in Montana since Yellowstone started, but I bet there's almost 252 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: more people murdered in on the Yellowstone TV show than 253 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: in the actual state of Montana. Oh, there definitely is. Yeah, 254 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 1: that'd be a good I think. I think there's probably 255 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: more people shot in one episode of Yellowstone that have 256 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 1: been shot in mont over the course of several years. 257 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: But you know, a lot of you know, it's kind 258 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: of like a big advertiser for the Second Amendment. So 259 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: there's that. That and the state of Montana, which I've 260 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: still never visited, but one billion percent want to go 261 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: just by watching Yellowstone. I'm sure there's lots of you 262 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 1: out there feel the same way. Look coming up on 263 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: Christmas next week, there's a lot of dads out there, 264 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 1: I know, and moms, but especially dads who just flat 265 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: out haven't gotten Christmas presents done. I know, I know 266 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: I've been there. Maybe you got grandkids, maybe you got 267 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: kids of your own. Maybe you can just surprise the 268 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: nieces and nephews. 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It seems astonishing that it took this 295 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: long for a government official who stood accused by the 296 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: same government in not one, but two felony criminal cases 297 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: to lose their job. Why hadn't the White House come 298 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: out more forcefully before. Well we all know the answer 299 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: to that, because Sam Brinton has been elevated and celebrated 300 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: as the first non binary Deputy Assistant Secretary and it's 301 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: even more unusual than the non binary designation Clay. Sam 302 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: Brinton also has taught I believe they're called kink classes 303 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: in the past. So interesting. 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Just an all around 345 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 1: genuinely great guy, fascinating, really smart, eccentric offensive mind who 346 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: changed college football enormously. Want to give our best to 347 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 1: his wife and his children. He was a good friend 348 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,640 Speaker 1: of mine. We had a lot of really interesting conversations. 349 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:50,439 Speaker 1: He was a big fan of this show and just 350 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 1: a super successful football coach, but beyond that a great 351 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: human and the world is going to be the worst 352 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 1: for his passing. So I wanted to make sure that 353 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: I mentioned that I know many of you you out 354 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: there are also fond of Mike Leach and what he 355 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:08,719 Speaker 1: represented in his professional career in college football, and so 356 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 1: I wanted to mention that all right, stories that are 357 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: out there that we have not talked about. Buck, you 358 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 1: and I talked about off air, this story, which I 359 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: think is is very intriguing. The idea of kids under 360 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: the age of eighteen getting in any way transgender surgeries 361 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 1: is madness. Most states will not allow you, for instance, 362 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 1: if you're under the age of eighteen to get a tattoo, 363 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 1: but the idea that you would be able to stop 364 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 1: puberty or decide that you're going to have what they 365 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 1: call top surgery, where basically you get your breast removed, 366 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,959 Speaker 1: that you would begin before you are an adult. Transitioning 367 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 1: from one sex to another is pure madness. And what 368 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 1: doesn't get talked about very much is the decision made, 369 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 1: which is now becoming somewhat common place right that people 370 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: are deciding, Hey, I've changed genders and now I want 371 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: to change back. This is Chris Beck, who Buck I 372 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,439 Speaker 1: believe you've talked to him before. He's a retired Navy 373 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 1: seal who now wants to de transition. Became a woman, 374 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:18,919 Speaker 1: now wants to go back to being a man. And 375 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,199 Speaker 1: I think we have an audio cup, but you want 376 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 1: to be clearly in this case also became a transgender woman, 377 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 1: because as we know, you can't actually become a woman. 378 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 1: And now is just actually recognizing that he was always 379 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: a he and a man and that this was, he says, 380 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: the worst experience, the worst mistake of his entire life. 381 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 1: And Clay, he's now using this in order to talk 382 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 1: about this for children specifically. Here's what he says in 383 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 1: the clip. We want to take the emotions out of 384 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: this and let's look at it as a medical team. 385 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,479 Speaker 1: Let's look at it through a lot of different scope. 386 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: I don't want this to be political, and I don't 387 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: want transgender people to be harmed, but if you're doing 388 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: this to kids, that's wrong. They also start doing him 389 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: on a horm blockers and all kinds of other hormone things, 390 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 1: puberty blockers, everything else is sterilizes these kids. So we're 391 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: gonna have all these children in five or ten years 392 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 1: who are being told one side of this story, and 393 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 1: they're going, well, that's me because they're not being told 394 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,199 Speaker 1: stories like mine and not being stolen towards stories like 395 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 1: so many other people that be transitions. They hide the 396 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 1: fact that I even exist. They also say that I 397 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: hate transgender people. Don't hate transgender people. There's a lot 398 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 1: of my friends. What I care about his people. I 399 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 1: want people to slow down. I want these doctors to 400 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: see what they're doing. It's crazy, buck entirely reasonable from 401 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 1: Kristen beck here, and I think he's now. I think 402 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: he's going back to it was he Chris Chris Beck 403 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 1: before this. I think that's right. And you know, mister 404 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: Becket in this case is just saying, look, I'm some. 405 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 1: This is a guy who was he was he was 406 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: a Navy seal. He was in the Navy for twenty years, 407 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: and the left held him up as see, our bravest 408 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: warriors can be trans Therefore, don't question any aspect of 409 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: the trans agenda. This was this was the propaganda around it. 410 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: And here is this warrior, the somebody who did serve 411 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 1: honorably in the Navy for decades and wasn't a member 412 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 1: of the seal team coming out and saying, look, this 413 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: was a terrible thing for me to do as an adult. 414 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 1: And he thinks that the VA did one one hour 415 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 1: sit down with him and put him on and started 416 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:31,640 Speaker 1: to put him on hormone hormone drugs, and this would 417 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: have been far better. I think in his own mind 418 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 1: he would now admit for there to be a slower 419 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 1: pace here, think this through. But you see, Clay, part 420 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,199 Speaker 1: of the problem is they don't want this to be 421 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 1: a thing that people get psychological help for, because then 422 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: it starts to be clear that this is a mental 423 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: health issue instead of a affirmation issue. But if you 424 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 1: take time to speak to a therapist, people may explore 425 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 1: that there are deeper issues here that relate to gender identity, 426 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: and that it's not actually some core underlying, even immutable characteristic. 427 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 1: It is in fact the most fluid of characteristics, and 428 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,479 Speaker 1: that it's just somebody's feelings at any point in time, 429 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 1: and if he said it himself, they're just going to 430 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: ignore that he even exists now after heralding his transition. 431 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 1: For the purpose of the transagenda, all I would say, especially, 432 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,159 Speaker 1: I think the fact that he's talking to children is 433 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 1: so important here. The reason why many states ban kids 434 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,640 Speaker 1: under the age of eighteen from getting tattoos is because 435 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 1: we don't want adults to grow up and say, why 436 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 1: in the world did I get that tattoo? Per and 437 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 1: obviously a tattoos a whole heck of a lot less 438 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: serious than bottom surgery, and fifteen years old, were like, hey, 439 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: we don't think you should be able to get that 440 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 1: barbed wire tattoo on your bicep because you might add 441 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 1: twenty five look down and say, what in the world 442 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: was I doing. I think everyone needs to needs to 443 00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: see this clay. There is really no outer limit to this, 444 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,199 Speaker 1: and that you've already seen. Think of the rhetoric they use, 445 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,679 Speaker 1: and think of what has changed even the last five years. 446 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: You know, Bill Maher said that don't say gay, Bill, 447 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: which is actually the don't indoctrinate small children in public 448 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 1: schools into trans ideology and create transgender contagion, which is 449 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,159 Speaker 1: a thing that was studying at Brown University until they 450 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: shut it down right away. They realize that they've been 451 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 1: moving so fast on this in recent years, people might 452 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 1: start to figure out what the ultimate goal is when 453 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 1: they say that doctors make a mistake in gender with 454 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: a baby, And what they're effectively saying here is they 455 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 1: want to declare that transgenderism is something that is innate 456 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 1: and from birth, so then it gets full So even 457 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 1: though it may not manifest itself until much later on, 458 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,479 Speaker 1: it is innate at your birth. But we look at 459 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 1: this and we say, well, hold on a second, there's 460 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 1: actually a truly physical you want to talk about im 461 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 1: mutable characteristics. We're talking about whether somebody has the male 462 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: parts or female parts. Yeah, they are negating that it 463 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 1: is not I know this is crazy. But the same 464 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: way that they don't say you become a transgender female, 465 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:15,400 Speaker 1: you become a female, and everyone needs to understand that too. 466 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 1: It's not, oh, there's this other category of transgender. No, 467 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: you're a female, and anyone who says otherwise is a bigot. 468 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:25,400 Speaker 1: They also say that gender at birth is not a thing. 469 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: And I know that's crazy, but that is actually what 470 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 1: the ideology takes us to. The biology argument is a 471 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,719 Speaker 1: non starter, and so I would just say, in particular, 472 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 1: for children, you can't get a tattoo before you're eighteen, 473 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:45,160 Speaker 1: you can't vote before you're eighteen, you can't buy a 474 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 1: beer until you're twenty one. In many states, you can't 475 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 1: rent a car until you're twenty five. And yet they're 476 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: going to allow a fourteen year old to have her 477 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 1: breast cut off because she thinks that she's a boy. 478 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,119 Speaker 1: I mean, this is can I just want to It's 479 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 1: not to Clay. I mean, do you think that any 480 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 1: of the let's say a fourteen year old goes into 481 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 1: one of these gender transition clinics, right, fourteen year old girl, 482 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: I'm actually I'm actually a boy. I wonder how many 483 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 1: doctors that work in these clinics would say, hey, just 484 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 1: so you know, if we go through this whole process, 485 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 1: there are not only going to be long term, absolutely 486 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: long term health complications, You're probably going to be sterile, 487 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 1: you'll never be able to have children. But also there 488 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 1: are people who go through this whole thing and think 489 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,679 Speaker 1: that they were mistaken. Do you think that any of 490 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:39,120 Speaker 1: these medical practitioners, I mean, maybe some of them do, 491 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 1: but based on there isn't There is a zealotry involved 492 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:45,959 Speaker 1: here with a lot of the people that work at 493 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: these clinics where you are living your truth. Your truth 494 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,160 Speaker 1: is the thing that pushes you to transition, and anything 495 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 1: that gets in the way of transition is regressive and bigotry, 496 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 1: even the production of facts and data and reality to 497 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 1: help a young person make that choice. Just think about this, buck, 498 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 1: how many surgeries that are voluntary and not medically necessary 499 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: are allowed on miners in the United States, which would 500 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 1: render them sterile potentially. Mean what would you say, you 501 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 1: know what? What? What would you or Laura say if 502 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: you had a friend who said, you know, yeah, we 503 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 1: are our thirteen year old daughter wants to get breast implants, 504 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: you'd say what You'd say, what do you what are 505 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: you doing? I would say that's crazy. I mean, I 506 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: think any any minor child having any unnecessary cosmetic surgery, 507 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 1: uh is is very questionable. But when it could potentially 508 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 1: render you sterile for life. But to say absolute apex 509 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 1: of crazy, we could all agree that that breast augmentation 510 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 1: surgery for a thirteen year old girl would be deeply 511 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 1: medically unethical and crazy. But removal, permanent, removal of the 512 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 1: fat tissue from the breast forever is ethical. Someone, where 513 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 1: are you know? It's it's a lot of I want 514 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 1: these mds ah, They're gonna hide by their credentials, the 515 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: work of these clinics. I would like them to try 516 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,479 Speaker 1: to make this argument in public. If it's really about 517 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: health and medicine, I'd like them to explain to me 518 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 1: why one is okay and the other is not. No, 519 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 1: it's I mean there should be I believe every state 520 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: should prohibit miners having any sort of gender affirmation or 521 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: gender reassignments. A buck. The data reflects that when you 522 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 1: get on these puberty blockers, your bones don't develop as 523 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 1: strong as they would the rest of your life. So 524 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 1: you're not only delaying and destroying the ability of your 525 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 1: body to naturally become an adult, but you are also 526 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 1: weakening the physical bone structure of all of these transgender 527 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 1: people from youth for the rest of their lives. Look, 528 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 1: this is it's ultimately this is a psychiatric but they're 529 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 1: creating this whole protocol of physical changes for the transition 530 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 1: to make it to make it seem like, oh no, 531 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 1: this is just medical care. This is like you know, 532 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 1: getting a stent for your heart or something. This is 533 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 1: just the standard medical care that we do for people 534 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 1: to keep them healthy and functioning. It's psychiatric in nature. 535 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 1: It is not actually standard medical care. But does that 536 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 1: I mean, look, look at the medical community is doing 537 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 1: it right now with COVID still. I mean, we there's 538 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: so much, so much going wrong. I mean, here's your 539 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 1: point about the kid having breast augmentation surgery is a 540 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 1: great one. Just ask this. If you decide you want 541 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 1: to change your gender, I mean, it's that's a heroic 542 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 1: thing to do. If you decide you want to change 543 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 1: your race, which is that's the one that people can't 544 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: get past because you change your race, it's super racist 545 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: of you to even consider that you could do that. Yet, 546 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 1: race is much more of an identity than gender, right, 547 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: there's much less of a race is far more on 548 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 1: a spectrum of you know, many people are you know, 549 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 1: multi race. My own nephew is multi races. Many people 550 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 1: don't even row their races until they do the DNA stuff. 551 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 1: They find out that they're actually not the race that 552 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 1: they thought they were right, like, yeah, it's really fascinating. 553 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 1: It's amazing. Nonprofit organizations are busy this time of year 554 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 1: with fundraising in this season of giving, and one very 555 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: worthy organization worth your time is the Preborn Pregnancy Clinic, 556 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 1: a nationwide organization focused on saving the lives of unborn children. 557 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 1: For sixteen years, they welcome welcomed expectant mothers who are 558 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 1: making the biggest decision of their lives. They provide a 559 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: free ultrasound to each woman so they can meet their 560 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 1: unborn child. Preborn also provides them with the resources to 561 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 1: see the pregnancy through the end of their term, and 562 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 1: plenty of resources once that child is happily brought into 563 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 1: this world. It's an amazing expression of unconditional love, all 564 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: focused on providing the support needed to save that unborn 565 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 1: child's life. It all starts with that first visit, with 566 00:31:56,320 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 1: that free ultrasound experience. Preborn has saved us of thousands 567 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 1: of babies lives in this way, we're doing our part 568 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 1: with a goal of rescuing forty thousand babies, and we 569 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 1: need your help. Can you donate twenty eight dollars the 570 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 1: cost of a single ultrasound, or if you can one 571 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: hundred and forty dollars the cost of five ultrasounds. You 572 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 1: know there's a matching gift right now, so whatever you 573 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 1: can donate, it will be doubled and also one hundred 574 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 1: percent of your tax deductible gift of any side ten 575 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 1: size ten dollars one hundred dollars a thousand dollars. Maybe 576 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 1: you could help even purchase an ultrasound machine for Preborn. 577 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: Think of how many thousands of babies lives you could 578 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 1: save with that. To donate securely, use your cell phone 579 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 1: dial pound two fifty and say the keyword baby. That's 580 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 1: pound two five zero saying baby. Or go to preborn 581 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 1: dot com slash buck that's preborn dot com slash Buck 582 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 1: sponsored by Preborn. We're gonna be closing up shop here 583 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 1: on Clay and Buck. Appreciate you all of you hanging 584 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 1: out with us across the country as we are entering 585 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 1: this wonderful holiday season and Merry Christmas to will be 586 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 1: out there, and we also are going to be sharing 587 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 1: some Christmas traditions in our houses that we have. I 588 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: mentioned before, I was in Savanna over the weekend. I'm 589 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: a big fan of Savannah. I think that's a good 590 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 1: way to transition here, Clay into some of our mail 591 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: bag that we got in. If anybody wants to send 592 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 1: us an email, VIP email, subscribe at Clay Nbuck dot com. 593 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 1: And producer Ali and the rest of the team, they 594 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 1: get these messages in and we read through them and 595 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 1: we try to get as many on the air and 596 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 1: respond to them as we can. Here's Ron right again 597 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 1: that just outside of Savannah is the eighth Air Force Museum. Fantastic. 598 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 1: I served in the Air Force twenty two years. Was 599 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 1: a radar navigator on the B fifty two. Visited Savannah 600 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 1: at five times. A great city, Yeah, I do love. 601 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,480 Speaker 1: I've always said this for a forty eight hour city 602 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 1: in particular, like if you have a Friday to Sunday stretch, 603 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 1: you're gonna arrive Friday afternoon or evening and you've got 604 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 1: to be out by Sunday because it's very walkable, very compact, 605 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 1: and there's a lot in a small place. I mentioned 606 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 1: Clay that I went to this web private museum, but 607 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:08,879 Speaker 1: I mean you just walk in, give the guy ten bucks, 608 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,799 Speaker 1: he gives you a personal tour. It's pretty fun. What 609 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 1: is your I've never been to the Eighth Air Force Museum. 610 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 1: What is either your favorite museum period or is there 611 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 1: a best Civil War museum. So this is the coolest 612 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 1: thing I've ever done from a history perspective, was tour 613 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 1: the beaches of Normandy. So you can still climb into 614 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,359 Speaker 1: the German pillboxes. A lot of their long guns are 615 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:40,800 Speaker 1: still there. The the overall landscape of much of Normandy 616 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 1: looks nearly identical to what it looked like seventy years ago. 617 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,879 Speaker 1: The coolest museum that I have probably been to from 618 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 1: a history perspective, the Imperial War Museum in London is 619 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 1: if you're interested in World War Two at all, it 620 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 1: is one of them. I believe I got that name right, 621 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 1: the Imperial War Museum. It is one of the coolest 622 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 1: museums that I've ever gotten to spend time walking through. 623 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 1: But again I'm giving several The Churchill War Rooms is 624 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 1: also one of the coolest things I've ever visited, also 625 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 1: in London, nearly identical. I'll give all three of those 626 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:22,759 Speaker 1: shouts out London and then in Normandy. I would say, 627 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,800 Speaker 1: you know, I was there for a rainy day in 628 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 1: New Orleans and that is National World World War Two 629 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 1: Museum in New Orleans, is. I'm just gonna say it. 630 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 1: I'm generally not a big museum guy, you know, but 631 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 1: on a rainy day at a place where you don't live, 632 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 1: you often find yourself like, hey, it's either a movie 633 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 1: or a museum. The Natural World War Two Museum in 634 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,839 Speaker 1: New Orleans is incredible. It is not like any other 635 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,319 Speaker 1: museum you will have ever been to. It's pretty amazing. Well, 636 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,439 Speaker 1: they still have. One of the coolest things they do 637 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 1: is they have World War Two veterans sitting in the 638 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 1: lobby there to be able to meet them, that is incredible. 639 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 1: I'll give a shout out in my back art here. 640 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,360 Speaker 1: The Carter House, I believe it is the most bullet 641 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 1: riddled military place that still exists in the United States historically. 642 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 1: And Carnton. Both of those places buck That's something I've 643 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,839 Speaker 1: never seen before. They literally still have blood stains on 644 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:20,359 Speaker 1: the floor from where they were used as hospitals in 645 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,840 Speaker 1: the wake of the Battle of Franklin. That's literally a 646 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,400 Speaker 1: mile or so from my house, the Carter House and Carnton. 647 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 1: If you are a Civil War history nerd like i am, 648 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,880 Speaker 1: a lot of people don't know those those home tours exist. 649 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 1: It's worth the trip to check those out you gotta 650 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,319 Speaker 1: do like a whole separate podcast on your favorite war 651 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 1: history museum situations. Dude, you're that's a pretty good a 652 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,879 Speaker 1: lot of time in them. Yeah. I mean, that's why 653 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 1: I mentioned Malta yesterday because I want to go see 654 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:51,879 Speaker 1: the what's left from the Great Siege. But fifteen sixty five, 655 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,720 Speaker 1: it's all other conversation. We'll have more of this though tomorrow. 656 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 1: Everybody