1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: Then Clement finds George Reister another reason he touchdown pass 2 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: off a short yardage play action Reister bricks free. 3 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 2: Today on The Unafraid Show, we're getting into the Big twelve, 4 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 2: which team will win the most games over the next 5 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 2: five years, And we got to talk about Cam Newton 6 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:24,119 Speaker 2: and the seven oh seventh fight. 7 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 3: Plus the UFL is getting ready to. 8 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 2: Start and I played in it and why it might last. 9 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 2: And we have Sean. 10 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 3: Hayes from the UFL. 11 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 2: I'm George Reis to make sure that you'd like subscribe 12 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 2: telefriend get notifications and make sure that you share. 13 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 3: It's time for the Unaffraid Show. Let's go. 14 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 2: We need to talk about the new sixteen team Big 15 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 2: twelve and what some of the expectations for those teams 16 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 2: are gonna be over the next five years, and who 17 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:04,759 Speaker 2: will win the most conference games because we can't depend 18 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:07,199 Speaker 2: on the non conference because people schedule all sorts of people. 19 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:09,839 Speaker 2: And I actually hate that the dog eat dog nature 20 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 2: of college football resulted in a standoff for survival between 21 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:15,759 Speaker 2: the Pac twelve and the Big twelve and the fact 22 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 2: that the Pac twelve lost. And if you followed any 23 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 2: of my content over the last couple of years. Then 24 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 2: you know that I saw the Pac twelve's implosion coming 25 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 2: from fifty miles away and was screaming from the mountaintops 26 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 2: while every brother saying, Oh, it's fine, they'll get it 27 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 2: figured out. 28 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 3: No, it wasn't happening. 29 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 2: So the Big Twelve, despite losing its two biggest brands 30 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 2: in Oklahoma and Texas, gets not only to survive, but 31 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:40,199 Speaker 2: to absorb the Pac twelve's corner schools in the process. 32 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 2: This conference, though, is actually harder to figure out because 33 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 2: half of the schools are less than a year into 34 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 2: their affiliation. So let's count it down from sixteen to 35 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 2: one with the Big twelve teams that are going to 36 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 2: win the most games over the next five years, and 37 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 2: we'll start with number sixteen, Cincinnati because Scott Zaderfield wasn't 38 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 2: able to keep the ship float after Luke Fickle took 39 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 2: Sissy to the College Football Playoff. Are there any signs 40 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 2: that the bear Casts are going to bounce back this year? 41 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 2: Because not Gonna be honest. If this twenty twenty four 42 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 2: transferred class of guys like Brendon Soresby, Joe Royer, and 43 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 2: Evan Pryor, don't seriously jump start this offense immediately, the 44 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 2: Bear cast could get stuck circling the drain number fifteen Baylor. 45 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 2: If you're new to college football, this is gonna shock 46 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 2: you because Baylor having two losing seasons in a row 47 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 2: under Dave Randa is just an anomaly. 48 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 4: Right. 49 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 2: Well, let me remind the uninitiated that Baylor was one 50 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 2: of college football's worst programs prior to Art Brow's third year. 51 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 2: They have fourteen losing seasons in a row, and they 52 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 2: can absolutely go back to that. If they're not focused 53 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 2: on being offensively innovative. 54 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 3: They might be a year late on. 55 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 2: The coaching change that could have avoided a prolonged return 56 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:54,679 Speaker 2: into college football. Irrelevant, but we'll see if Toledo transferred 57 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,839 Speaker 2: quarterback da Kwan Finn has enough juice in the tank 58 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:02,519 Speaker 2: to delay Baylor's decline. I'mre fourteen Texas Tech, and now 59 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 2: here's a school with plenty of NIO money and a 60 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 2: coaching Joey McGuire that can recruit better than anybody at 61 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 2: Texas Tech has in a very long time. So while 62 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 2: my short selling Red Raider stock, it's the conundrum of 63 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 2: two opposing factors. First, if Joey McGuire gives Lubbock their 64 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 2: first nine plus win season since two thousand and eight. 65 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 2: He's gonna be one of the hottest names on the 66 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 2: coaching market. And second, if he turns in another mediocre 67 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 2: season where both the offense and defense finished outside the 68 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 2: top sixty while stockpiling more talent than Texas Tech has 69 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 2: had in decades, the clock is gonna start ticking on 70 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 2: his time there in Lubbock. 71 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 3: Either way, I. 72 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 2: Don't see sustained success on the horizon. Number thirteen Central 73 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 2: Florida UCF was a big fish in a small pond, 74 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 2: and now they're trying to find their way in the 75 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 2: Big twelve, and so far the results have been a 76 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 2: mixed bag. Gus Malzon can coach offense. My worry is 77 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 2: on the other side of the ball. UCF was much 78 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 2: better in the second half of twenty twenty three, and 79 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 2: bringing in Ted Ruth to help with the defense without 80 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 2: blowing up the whole staff feels like a step in 81 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 2: the right direction. Now UCF is also recruiting at a 82 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 2: level that would suggest Big twelve success. 83 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 3: Is around the corner. 84 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 2: But you have to wonder, with any Florida school that 85 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 2: isn't in the SEC or ACC can they hold on 86 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 2: to a kid that flashes talent or will they lose him? 87 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 2: The better nil opportunities because maybe the Knights will prove 88 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 2: me wrong here, but this feels like a team that 89 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 2: will flirt with Bowl eligibility year over year but not 90 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 2: be able to put it together. Number twelve BYU. Be 91 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 2: careful what you wish for when it comes to major 92 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 2: conference inclusion, because BYU just has their first losing season 93 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 2: since twenty eighteen and their second since four and a 94 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 2: big reason why is because they went to and seven 95 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 2: in conference. 96 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 3: Taking a thirty two point home loss. 97 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 2: To Iowa State in November is definitely a new development 98 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 2: for Cougar fans. Head coach Kaline Sataki has moved to 99 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 2: looking to a p solution at quarterback the last couple 100 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 2: of years, and there have been plenty of BYU boosters 101 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 2: that are willing to help keep the team relevant, but 102 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 2: the portal also feels outside of the norm what BYU 103 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 2: has been all about about the development now. I don't 104 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 2: think that BYU will ever be non competitive, but I'm 105 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 2: also not sure that they can rise to the top 106 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 2: of the conference. Number eleven Texas Christian aka TCU. The 107 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 2: horn Frogs are on the precipice of something special with 108 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 2: their twenty twenty four recruiting and transfer class. But this 109 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 2: list is about sustained success. It's a ranking of how 110 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 2: things will look in twenty twenty nine, not just right now. 111 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 2: And I'm not going to be shocked if they're fighting 112 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 2: for a conference championship in twenty twenty five. But I'm 113 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 2: also not going to be shocked if they're on the 114 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 2: market for a new coach at the end of twenty 115 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 2: twenty five. Kasani Dykes has two winning seasons in his 116 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 2: six tries at Power five schools, and TCU had two 117 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 2: seasons over five hundred and the Big twelve in their 118 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 2: last six tries. If the horn Frogs rise to be 119 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,679 Speaker 2: a consistent Big twelve power with Dykes at the helm, 120 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 2: it'll be a departure from the norm for both of them. 121 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 3: Number ten Houston. 122 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 2: Houston had the same Big twelve router wakening that BYU did, 123 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 2: but they decided that they were gonna do something about it, 124 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 2: and they traded in Dana Hogersome for two lanes. Willie Fritz. 125 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 2: I like the move, and I think that this is 126 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 2: where sixty three year old Fritz proves he can hang 127 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 2: with the big boys now. I don't see him job 128 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 2: hopping after a good season or two, but a lot 129 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 2: of things will depend on how Fritz Staff exploits the 130 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 2: talent rich area that they're in and the resources Houston 131 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 2: has to get guys who left Houston for opportunities elsewhere 132 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 2: out of high school to come home out of the portal. 133 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:48,119 Speaker 2: Number nine West Virginia. Who would have thought that Neil 134 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 2: Brown and his defensive coordinator Jordan Leslie would be riding 135 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:55,239 Speaker 2: the wave of optimism heading into twenty twenty four after 136 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 2: heading into twenty twenty three under the guillotine. They had 137 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 2: a top fifty recruiting class and transfer class, which doesn't 138 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 2: usually happen for a coach that's on the hot seat, 139 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,359 Speaker 2: and with the short king Garrett Green returning at quarterback, 140 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 2: you might actually be able to see back to back 141 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 2: nine win seasons for the Mountaineers, and if that happens, 142 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 2: you might start to see the program recapture some of 143 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 2: the consistency of its days in the Big East. Number 144 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 2: eight Iowa State. Iowa State has had six winning seasons 145 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 2: in AIM since twenty seventeen, and Iowa State only had 146 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 2: six winning seasons from eighty nine to twenty sixteen. So 147 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 2: the question becomes, did Matt Campbell raise the floor for 148 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 2: Iowa State or is Iowa State and its history contributing 149 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 2: to a low ceiling for Matt Campbell Because this program 150 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 2: still hasn't had a ten win season since Wellever, and 151 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 2: they did go nine to one in nineteen oh six, 152 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 2: so they have that going for them. 153 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 3: Now. 154 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 2: This is still a program that is bucking the trend 155 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 2: of building through the portal and values talent development, and 156 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 2: the bottom doesn't usually fall out for programs that are 157 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 2: like that. And I think as long as Campbell is 158 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 2: at Iowa State, six conference wins and a bowl game 159 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 2: is within reach. 160 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 3: Number seven Colorado. 161 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 2: Some people say, George, you don't believe Colorado could be 162 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 2: higher than this if I didn't think the entirety of 163 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 2: their potential success was tied to the presence of Dion Sanders. 164 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 2: Now they'll have the roster to be a factor in 165 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 2: the Big twelve immediately, But again, this list is about. 166 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 3: Five years from now. 167 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 2: Without Dion, Colorado is a Mountain West level sports school 168 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 2: and not even the top of the Mountain West. 169 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 3: Now. 170 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 2: Could Dion change that though, Sure, but he's gonna have 171 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 2: to be at Colorado for a long time before people 172 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 2: buy in. Like Nick Saban was at Alabama for seventeen years, 173 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 2: and I'd be impressed if Dion was at Colorado for seven, 174 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 2: let alone seventeen. Number six Arizona State. Now, Arizona State's 175 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 2: recruits better than most Big twelve schools. They have inroads 176 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 2: in Texas, and they're gonna get talent from bounce back 177 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 2: kids from California and Arizona in the portal every year. 178 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 2: Talent won't be an issue, and Kenny Dillingham has said 179 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 2: he wants to be there forever. So why don't I 180 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 2: have Arizona State higher on this list? 181 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 3: This is the. 182 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 2: Nil era and Arizona State has to fight both tooth 183 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 2: and nail to get the same boosters that they milk 184 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 2: drive for a stadium upgrade and multiple coaching buyouts to 185 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 2: come around to the idea of paying for a better roster. Now, 186 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 2: this one is on the fans. If they want ASU 187 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 2: to win, then they need to donate accordingly, and if 188 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 2: they do, they'll win. 189 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 3: If they don't, they won't. Number five Kansas. 190 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 2: Lance Leopold is becoming the new Matt Campbell and every 191 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 2: job that pops up has his name attached to it, 192 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 2: and I'm starting to believe that the reason that he 193 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 2: hasn't bolted is that he has an extremely clear vision 194 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 2: of what the Jayhawks are building in Lawrence, Kansas. Now 195 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 2: the money is there, the football program has crazy energy 196 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 2: around it, and some of the best pass rushing recruit 197 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 2: that they've ever landed are severely underrated. And I think 198 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 2: that Kansas has a similar issue to Colorado in that 199 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 2: their success is tied to Leopold. But the difference is 200 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 2: I think that Kansas fans are actually Kansas fans and 201 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 2: they'll stick around if Leopold does leave and the man 202 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 2: that the recent success becomes more of the standard. But 203 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:23,439 Speaker 2: I also acknowledge that I pointed out Baylor's history of losing, 204 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 2: and so I have to point out that Kansas history 205 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 2: makes Baylor look like Alabama. There's always a chance that 206 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 2: the Jayhawks go back to being the worst major conference 207 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 2: team in America, but I don't think that that will happen. 208 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 2: There's an expectation now they've grown a custom number four 209 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 2: Kansas State. I have one concern about Kansas State, and 210 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 2: it's a big one. I think that this team could 211 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 2: challenge to be a college football playoff contender out of 212 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 2: the Big Twelve every single year, But to have consistently 213 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 2: elite results, you have to consistently pull elite recruits. Case 214 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 2: State doesn't do that, And I get that Bill Snyder 215 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:01,839 Speaker 2: was the ultimate chicken out of chicken shit head coach. 216 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 2: But it's twenty twenty four and Kansas Juco football isn't 217 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 2: a secret anymore, and Chris Klimban needs to be landing 218 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 2: four star kids like hometown boy Avery Johnson that he 219 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 2: landed last year. If he does that, this conference might 220 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:19,199 Speaker 2: be for his taking number three Oklahoma State. Every indication 221 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 2: was that Oklahoma State was cooked heading into twenty twenty three. 222 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 2: Eighteen kids transferred out. Derek Mason said, I'd rather take 223 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 2: a year off than working still water anymore. And the 224 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:32,199 Speaker 2: first three weeks of the season looked like the Cowboys 225 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 2: were the worst offense in America. Then guess what happened? 226 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 2: They still went onto the Big twelve championship game. And 227 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 2: I'm not counting out a Mike Gundhy coach team anymore. 228 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 2: It's pointless now. I don't care if they run out 229 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 2: there with pop warn or roster. They haven't had a 230 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 2: losing record since two thousand and five, and as long 231 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 2: as Gundy is there, they'll be able to compete to 232 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 2: win the league. 233 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 3: Number two Arizona. 234 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 2: Arizona is a Big twelve school in a Big twelve 235 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 2: city that was stuck in the Pac twelve. Now, Brent 236 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 2: Brennan is a great hire out of San Jose State, 237 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 2: and they're gonna tap into the California talent pool more 238 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 2: than any other school in the conference. And I genuinely 239 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 2: think that this is the start of a special era 240 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 2: for the Wildcats, and it's buoyed by the fact that 241 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 2: they retain most of an extremely talented offense despite Jedfish 242 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 2: leaving for Washington. Now, Tucson might not have been the 243 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 2: gym city of the previous conference, but for the Big 244 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 2: twelve recruits, they can go to a city that is 245 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 2: bigger than everyone except for Houston, but still has the 246 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 2: feel of a college town like Lawrence or Morgantown. 247 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 3: Plus they're boosters. 248 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 2: Oh them boys are aggravated, and they are mad as hell, 249 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 2: pouring resources into the program to help circumvent the school's 250 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 2: financial issues. 251 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 4: Now. 252 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 3: Number one Utah. 253 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 2: The Big Twelve didn't want Utah and Utah didn't want 254 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 2: to be in the Big Twelve. They're a built in villain, 255 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 2: and trust me, they're more than comfortable playing that role. 256 00:12:56,640 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 2: They develop talent better than anyone their physical and they 257 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 2: use the Pac twelve to make recruiting en roads in 258 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 2: California and now they're going to be playing road games 259 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 2: in Texas. 260 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 3: Man, as long as. 261 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 2: Kyle Whittingham is in charge of the Utes, they're going 262 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 2: to be the class at the Big Twelve. And I 263 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 2: know that that's the last thing that Big Twelve fans 264 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 2: really want to hear. And now we're on with Sean Hayes. 265 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:26,439 Speaker 2: Man was the director of player Performance over at the XFL. 266 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 2: Now he's over at the UFL. Sean, thanks for coming 267 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 2: on the show. 268 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 4: Hey, happy to be here, George, and I really excited 269 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 4: to talk to you. And man, I'm looking forward to it. 270 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:38,559 Speaker 4: So let's get this thing going. 271 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, So the NFL combine is getting ready to go on, 272 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 2: the UFL is getting ready to start camp. And there's 273 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 2: a lot of people that don't understand the difference between 274 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 2: in season performance and when you're getting ready for a combine, 275 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 2: which you guys just did over at the UFL. What's 276 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 2: the difference in preparation for both of those things. 277 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, great point. 278 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 1: So when when you're training for the combine man, you're 279 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: you're really training for those specific drills and those and 280 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 1: those tests, and and you you're basically you're you're trying 281 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: to cheat these tests, right, so every little detail matters. 282 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 4: You're trying to say seconds. 283 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: Off, and and when you're in season and you're getting 284 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: ready for camp man, you really got to kind of 285 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: dial things back a little bit. And because you got 286 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: to think when I'm playing, when I'm actually playing the game, 287 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: that stress is high, and your body it doesn't your 288 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: body can't decipher what the different stress is. 289 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 4: Oh am I playing football? Or am I lifting a 290 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 4: ton of weights? Stress is stress? Right? Or am I 291 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 4: getting an argument with my with my significant other? Like, 292 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 4: it's just stress to the body. 293 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: So when you add that play in the game and 294 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: you're in training camp, your stress as high as it is, 295 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: so you can't you don't really want to like add 296 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 1: to that too much in the weight so you kind 297 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: of want to do about, you know, about half of 298 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: what you would do in the offseason, maybe give or 299 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: take depending on some things. But but yeah, generally speaking, hey, 300 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: you want to cut the volume down in camp, keep 301 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: your keep your guys fresh as possible. 302 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 4: Hey, when you're out out. 303 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 1: Of season training for the combine, we can get after 304 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: it a little bit, you know, and and and volume 305 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: goes up, intensity goes up a little more. So that 306 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: would be the difference is because the stress when you're 307 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: playing this game is you know, more than more than 308 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: most how stressful it is on the body. 309 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 4: So you try to fake those things consideration. 310 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 2: I've always wondered, like, why don't we actually do way 311 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 2: more football stuff than stuff that you don't do when 312 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 2: you are, you know, playing football to try to judge 313 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 2: if you're a good football player or not. 314 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 4: It's a that's a great point. 315 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: And that's something to where I was really kind of 316 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: tasked to do with the XFL last season. If you 317 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: ever had a shot to do this thing different, we 318 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: had a shot at the XFL last year, and and 319 00:15:56,600 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: we we came with that approach, Hey, can we can 320 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: we maybe look at this a different way. So what 321 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 1: we thought we liked, you know, what we wanted to 322 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: do was kind of come up with a combine that 323 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: wasn't as outdated, right, take us long. We wanted to 324 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: do a combine, but we wanted to do it the 325 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: XFL way or a new take on an innovative approach. 326 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: So what we did is we looked at the text, 327 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: the same technology, the science that we used throughout the season, 328 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: the way we test guys to measure their their management 329 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: fatigue and their their a how are they doing with 330 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: their their nervous system all things like that, are they 331 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: maintaining performance? And we wanted to blend that in with 332 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: our combines. So instead of like doing a vertical jump 333 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: and a broad jump, you know, we wanted to just 334 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: do jumps on force plates and and and be able 335 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: to measure, hey, jump height, but also how quick twitch 336 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: are they? 337 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 3: Right? 338 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 4: How much forced are they putting into the ground. 339 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: If I'm line coach or d line coach, I'm in 340 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 1: the trenches, I'm gonna be looking at how much force 341 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: they put in the ground because that's what those players 342 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: do for a living. 343 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:10,400 Speaker 4: They have to either move. 344 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: Another individual or to hold their ground, So forcing the 345 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 1: ground that's gonna be key. So we really tried to 346 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: be like, hey, coaches, when you're at this combine, I 347 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 1: want you to look at that number. Now if you're 348 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 1: a skill guy. If I'm a dB, I'm receiver. It's yes, 349 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: jump height is important, but what's more important to that 350 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 1: I would like to I would probably, you know, guess 351 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 1: is how quick twitch you are, how quickly you could 352 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: come up with that force at a drop of the hat. 353 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 4: So we wanted to say, okay, we. 354 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: Cut down on the number of tests and we just 355 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 1: did you know, football movements, but we look at guys accelerations. 356 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:51,640 Speaker 1: We looked at guys top end speed. So now we're 357 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: able to tell the coach, hey, this guy is can 358 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:58,400 Speaker 1: accelerate quickly. He can get up the field really quickly. Right, 359 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 1: that's in force, whether I'm running back, whether I'm a receiver, 360 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: or I can say this guy's top ense speed is 361 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: really good. He hit a twenty one mile an hour, 362 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 1: he hit twenty two mile an hour, So now I 363 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,439 Speaker 1: don't have to run a forty to get that. I 364 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 1: can get that window in twenty hours. 365 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 2: I think that that's a better measurement because if you 366 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 2: put the catapult on dudes and they're running routes or 367 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 2: they're doing like you get a lot more data because 368 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:30,919 Speaker 2: you see deceleration then acceleration back again top speed. Because 369 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 2: we've seen how many guys run fast in forties, but 370 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:38,640 Speaker 2: then when they're playing football, they don't run nearly as. 371 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 1: Fast, right, And we wanted to have the showcase of 372 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:47,120 Speaker 1: where it's like, Okay, we're gonna do our thing. 373 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 4: We're gonna do our test, right. 374 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 1: But it's not gonna be as long it's gonna be 375 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: you know, we're gonna we're gonna hit him with it 376 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 1: and they're gonna be in and out. And then it's like, 377 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 1: go do your drills, and like all the coaches are watching. 378 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 1: As they're watching, we're handing out the data. So now 379 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:07,360 Speaker 1: when I'm watching somebody, I could say, man, that guy 380 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: looks good at drills. 381 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 4: What's his top that? How can we do it better? 382 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 4: How can we use technology in it? 383 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 1: And the way that we used And I thought I 384 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,120 Speaker 1: was really proud of what we were able to do, 385 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: not only from like the type of drills we did, 386 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: but I was really proud of the fact that, like 387 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: we were able to get some cool, unique numbers that 388 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 1: we're going to help our coaches in picking players. 389 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 2: When we talk about the amount of stress on players, 390 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 2: and then you think about, you know, the coaches having 391 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 2: to talk. So I've always wondered that when scouts are coaches. 392 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:43,880 Speaker 3: What are some of those coaches. 393 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 2: That, whether it's XFL, NFL, UFL, when they're coming to 394 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 2: ask about a player, what are those conversations you? 395 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 1: First of all, as the strength coach or performance coach, 396 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: you got to be honest, right, because if you're not 397 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: honest that coach that's asking, he's not coming. 398 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 4: To you again. Right you say, oh man, this guy 399 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 4: is great. 400 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:04,159 Speaker 1: You got to take him. Oh man, he's wonderful. And 401 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:07,120 Speaker 1: it's not the case your credibility goes out the windows. 402 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: So you gotta be honest about everything. How you do 403 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 1: one thing is how you do everything right. Yeah, I'll 404 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: give you example. I know he's making some some some 405 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:18,880 Speaker 1: headlines now being on the Shannon Sharp podcast with Johnny Manziel. 406 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:21,360 Speaker 1: When we were at the Texas, he was coming out 407 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 1: at A and M and we had a number one 408 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: pick that year and we were interviewing guys and one 409 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:27,479 Speaker 1: of the interview process was coming down in the weight 410 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: room talk to. At that time, the head strength coach 411 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: was Craig Fitzgerald. I was an assistant. I was in 412 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: on those interviews, right. He let me be a part 413 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,640 Speaker 1: of it. I was great. I was young, young, coach 414 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: at the time, So I was appreciative. But we interviewed 415 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: Johnny Manzel, you know, cool guy, nice guy, hell football player. 416 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: You know, we got down to how do you like 417 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 1: the wait room? 418 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 4: Johnny? Well, you know, I don't really you know, I 419 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 4: don't really love no one. Yeah. 420 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 1: So it's like right, hey, right then and there you 421 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,120 Speaker 1: got to go and tell ob like, hey, this guy 422 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:58,880 Speaker 1: doesn't love it down here is this our guy? 423 00:20:59,040 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 3: Right? 424 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: Like, you know, you don't necessarily have to be a 425 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 1: weight room warrior, but are you a guy that shows 426 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 1: up early? Because if you're showing up early in the 427 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: weight room, you're gonna show up early to film, You're 428 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: gonna show up early to get taped, to get treatment, 429 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 1: You're gonna you know what I mean. Are you the 430 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,159 Speaker 1: guy that's kind of gonna do your own thing in 431 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: the weight room, or you're gonna be looking like are 432 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 1: you gonna be coachable in the weight room? Especially in 433 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 1: college football, Man, who are they around the most? They're 434 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: around the strength coach the most. Right, Like the straight. 435 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 4: Coach sees everybody. 436 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: He can get a really good pulse of the team 437 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: and the player and how he operates and how he 438 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 1: does his business. And and and now you can be 439 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 1: able to tell those scouts to be like, yeah, I 440 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: can tell you what this guy is all about. 441 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 2: He is Sean hayes Man is over with player Performance 442 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:46,679 Speaker 2: over at the UFL. 443 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 3: John, thanks for coming on the show. Appreciate the time. 444 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,120 Speaker 4: Hey, thanks, thanks, Jeorye, I appreciate you. 445 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 3: Man. 446 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 2: We need to talk about Cam Newton and the now 447 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 2: infamous fight video from the Atlanta seven on seven tournament. Now, 448 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 2: this happened because of ego, and I've been in this 449 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,439 Speaker 2: position many times coaching my own kids. 450 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 3: But we'll get into that in a minute. 451 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 2: Because you had Cam Newton, who See One In Foundation 452 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 2: helped sponsor the tournament as well as coaches from top 453 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,919 Speaker 2: shelf performance, they got thrown off the property for the 454 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 2: physical confrontation in front of the kids. 455 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,679 Speaker 3: That they are supposed to be helping. 456 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 2: And there have been a lot of takes about this, 457 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 2: and I'm gonna be honest, a lot of them speak 458 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 2: to cultural issues that are far bigger than the event itself, 459 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,400 Speaker 2: but very few takes to actually get into the heart 460 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 2: of the specific issues that cause a conflict like this. 461 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 2: And I've seen this made into a race issue, a 462 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 2: culture issue, a parenting issue, a social media issue, and 463 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 2: maybe it is that big, and maybe it's evidence of 464 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 2: every type of societal wrong in one big pressure cooker. 465 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 2: Or maybe it comes down to what I said, which 466 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 2: is ego, because one of the sayings that I believe 467 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 2: to be true is that a man's strengths can flow 468 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 2: from the same well as his weakness, and the male 469 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 2: ego is can be a strength and it can also 470 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 2: be a weakness. I've seen this in my own life 471 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 2: because me being a former NFL player and having kids 472 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 2: that are good, other coaches wanted to beat my team 473 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,719 Speaker 2: so bad, and the time and energy and the links 474 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 2: that they were willing to go to to prepare their 475 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 2: team to play to beat my team was fascinating to me, 476 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 2: and along with the energy and intensity that they would 477 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 2: bring to the game, like you look like whoa brolick? 478 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 2: These are kids playing, It's not me and you. The 479 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 2: reality is is that the other coach just wanted to 480 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 2: prove his worth and stroke his ego in the off 481 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 2: chance that his team won, because it rarely happened. And 482 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 2: I've seen this over and over again also with Bronnie 483 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 2: James when he was playing for Sierra Canyon because the 484 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 2: crowds energy would always be insane, and kids. 485 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 3: Would act like if they hit a shot with. 486 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 2: Bronnie garding them that it was a Game seven NBA 487 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,439 Speaker 2: Finals buzzer beater and it wasn't in be a normal 488 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 2: routine play. And when you're a kid raised in that 489 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,959 Speaker 2: environment carrying that last name James, you've never had a 490 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 2: moment's piece and Bronnie has always handled it so well 491 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 2: and he's continuing to do it with Pac twelve teams 492 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 2: and their fans booing them every single day. Now, Bronnie's 493 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 2: had to deal with that. But Cam Newton, he isn't 494 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 2: a kid trying to make his dreams come true while 495 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 2: carrying a legacy last name. 496 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 3: He's a six foot. 497 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 2: Five athletic freak at two hundred and fifty pounds who 498 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 2: might be the best college football player of all time 499 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 2: and led the Carolina Panthers to a Super Bowl and 500 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:38,199 Speaker 2: is an MVP despite getting disrespected so bad, which is 501 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 2: wild to me. He also so happens to be one 502 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 2: of the most competitive dudes on Earth and takes that 503 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,679 Speaker 2: energy with him wherever he goes, whether it's on a 504 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 2: podcast studio or a seven on seven sideline So when 505 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 2: Cam Newton is surrounded by dudes who daydream about how 506 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,400 Speaker 2: a win over his squad could validate them as both 507 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 2: coaches and men, he has no incentive to be meek. 508 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,360 Speaker 3: No, he's not gonna chill. 509 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 2: He's gonna remind them, dudes exactly who he is and 510 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 2: that the harsh reality is that ninety nine point nine 511 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 2: percent of them, even the best former athletes on the 512 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 2: seven on seven coaching scene, will never be on his level. 513 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 2: And when you put your ego on display only to 514 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 2: have it crushed, well, sometimes the only thing that's left 515 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,160 Speaker 2: to do is throw hands. And I'm not saying it's right. 516 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 2: I'm just saying that there's enough record of human history 517 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 2: to show that ego plus a wound equals a squabble. 518 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 2: And while ego might have helped elevate Cam Newton to 519 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 2: legendary player status as an NFL player, it also might 520 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 2: be at the root of what got top shelf performance 521 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 2: dudes into believing that they have the best formula for 522 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:44,439 Speaker 2: developing young athletes. And it's also the same things that 523 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 2: made all parties involved lose sight of the purpose of 524 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 2: being part of seven on seven in the first place. 525 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 2: It was their egos that kept it from being about 526 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,919 Speaker 2: helping the kids and competing against Cam Newton can't be 527 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 2: the main thing. And I don't care what your beef is. 528 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 2: If your main priority and primary focus isn't helping kids 529 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 2: develop their skills, go do something else, because these families 530 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,360 Speaker 2: don't need your inability to keep your ego in check, 531 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,880 Speaker 2: putting their children's safety at risk. And for Cam Newton, 532 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 2: I can't pretend that he's gonna take my advice or 533 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 2: change anything about how he conducts hisself because he's on 534 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 2: the seven on seventh field, But the c one Inn 535 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:24,400 Speaker 2: Foundation mission. 536 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 3: Should speak for him. 537 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 2: If above all else, Cam Newton wants to give kids 538 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 2: opportunities to compete and develop more than he wants to 539 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 2: jaw at dudes who spent Monday through Friday at day jobs. 540 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 3: That will show. 541 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 2: But if he still got this much competitive juice, maybe 542 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 2: it's time to put the pass back on and go 543 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,880 Speaker 2: make some contact, because at the end of the day, 544 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 2: it's got to be about the kids. Let's talk about 545 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 2: the United Football League because spring football finally has a 546 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 2: shot to survive, and there are two main reasons why 547 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 2: it can work and why you should care. 548 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:03,639 Speaker 3: And I'll get to those in just a second. 549 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:05,439 Speaker 2: And I'm not gonna sit up here and bore you 550 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,400 Speaker 2: with the details about how this league came to be 551 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 2: other than what you need to know, because spring football 552 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 2: has been the white well of many people in the 553 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 2: business of sports. You've had so many leagues try and 554 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 2: fail and it hasn't worked. And now the merger of 555 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 2: the XFL and the USFL to form the UFL might 556 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 2: just be our best shot at finally making it happen. 557 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,199 Speaker 3: Because I actually loved the idea of. 558 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 2: Spring football, and honestly, I just haven't loved the execution 559 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 2: of spring football because they've tried to stand on their own, 560 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 2: which is why we don't buy in. 561 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 3: And I'm speaking from experience here because. 562 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 2: I played in the old version of the UFL and 563 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,400 Speaker 2: not only did I win a championship with the twenty 564 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:49,199 Speaker 2: and ten Las Vegas Locos, well Locomotives, I caught the 565 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,399 Speaker 2: last touchdown pass of the twenty and ten season in 566 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 2: the championship game. The thing that I loved about the 567 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 2: old UFL was that it was a hybridge of college 568 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 2: and the NFL, so it made it did a lot 569 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 2: of fun because everybody that was involved the league the coaches, 570 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 2: the players, and the fans in the stands were there 571 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,120 Speaker 2: because they loved ball. It wasn't about money, because nobody 572 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 2: was getting life changing contracts, even though there was money involved, 573 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 2: and they were there because they had unrealized NFL dreams. 574 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,639 Speaker 2: Or like me, after I got cut by the Giants 575 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 2: because they wouldn't clear me because of my neck, I 576 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 2: wanted to prove that I wasn't done and that I 577 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 2: still had more game left. But in my case, though 578 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 2: of figuring out that I needed two percocets and a 579 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,639 Speaker 2: so much just to fall asleep at night, let me 580 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,119 Speaker 2: know that the Giants were right and my neck was 581 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 2: not good enough to play pro football. But that's a 582 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 2: whole nother story for another time. The thing that was 583 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 2: refreshing and so much fun was you were around dudes 584 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 2: that were locked in and understood the stakes and the business. 585 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 3: Of it was out. It was just ball. 586 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 2: And with all the complaining about inflated NFL contracts and 587 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 2: the changes brought by NIL in the college game, I'm 588 00:28:56,160 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 2: honestly shocked that nobody did the spring football right before 589 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 2: for now, because this type of league can actually find 590 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 2: a bigger audience. The reality is, though is that the 591 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 2: UFL's best chance for survival is going to find. 592 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 3: Some way to make themselves useful, useful to the. 593 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 2: Juggernaut that devous everything in its path, the National Football League, 594 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 2: Because if the NFL had an interest in the spring league, 595 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 2: it probably would have started one itself, But since they 596 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 2: haven't gotten around to do that yet, the UFL has 597 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 2: a window to prove that not only can it be 598 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 2: a viable spectator sport in a non traditional season, the 599 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 2: league also has time to find a way to entice 600 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 2: the NFL to invest. Because there are two things that 601 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 2: the UFL can do to make themselves useful. Number one 602 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 2: be the minor league of the NFL. Get team scouts, film, 603 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 2: access emails about the players like just blast it out 604 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 2: and make sure that the league feels a part of 605 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 2: it the way they want your players, just like the 606 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 2: G League in the NBA. Number two, be a place 607 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 2: where the NFL can test out rules about kickoffs, replays, 608 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 2: sky judges, and anything else that it wants to because 609 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 2: the NFL recently expanded practice squads, and what better place 610 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 2: to grow and develop young players that you've drafted than 611 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 2: loaning them out to the spring league. One thing that 612 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 2: we know for certain is that players get missed in 613 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 2: the draft process because without Arena football, there's no Kurt Warner. 614 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 2: And the NFL used to have NFL Europe, which is 615 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 2: the G League to the NBA, and a lot of 616 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 2: good players have come out of the G League and 617 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 2: been good NBA players, And the same can come from 618 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 2: the UFL because there's dudes that can play. Look at 619 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 2: Saint Louis Battlehawk's wide receiver Jaquor Pearson. He might have 620 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 2: had a chance with the Chiefs this year because they 621 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 2: weren't running out great wide receivers. Or maybe Michael Joseph 622 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 2: of the DC Defenders, who maybe could have helped out 623 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 2: terrible pass rushers in twenty twenty three like the Titans 624 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 2: and the Raiders, but without the potential for the ultimate 625 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 2: reward a spot in the NFL, I'm not sure the 626 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 2: stakes force bring league will ever be high enough to 627 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 2: drive NFL fans into a new routine of consuming football 628 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 2: in April and May. That's why this league can work 629 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 2: is because having a place where NFL can develop their players. 630 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 2: Think about how many times we heard this last season, Oh, 631 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 2: there's a backup quarterback problem in the NFL. Send them 632 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 2: down to the UFL and let them develop. But who knows, 633 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 2: maybe the expanding landscape of legalized sports betting can give 634 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 2: the UFL the juice that it needs to get the 635 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 2: NFL's attention. And maybe pitting the XFL conference against the 636 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 2: USFL Conference is the going to create the type of 637 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 2: conflict that sparks interest as well. And maybe being in 638 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 2: Marcus like Birmingham, San Antonio, Memphis at Saint Louis will 639 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 2: create some loyal fan bases that crave a professional football 640 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 2: experience that their city can call their own. And that's 641 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 2: the Unafraid Show. Make sure that you like, subscribe, get notifications, 642 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,479 Speaker 2: and tell a friend so we can keep bringing you 643 00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 2: dope content and we'll catch you guys next week