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Speaker 1: Super breakout. Let's talk to the pros. Welcome in everybody

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Speaker 1: to Fantasy Pros. This is the Fantasy Baseball Podcast. It

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Speaker 1: is me, Joey Paid, Joe Pisapia.

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Speaker 2: That guy over there is the Welsh, and it's you

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Speaker 2: and today it's all about the breakouts. And yes, there's

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Speaker 1: Because it's free. It's awesome, Welsh. I mean, I don't

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Speaker 2: Perhaps a slap from somebody if you get out of line,

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Speaker 4: The five fingers say to the safe safe slap. Did meme?

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Speaker 4: Did you see my memes?

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Speaker 3: I did not see your meme, But it's a well

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Speaker 3: it's a whole nother story to talk about. But a

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Speaker 3: of someone calls me John Lackey and the Welsh goes slap.

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Speaker 2: know that you might not have seen John Lackeye this

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Speaker 1: And it was the greatest picture ever. So what was

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Speaker 1: it like you and Blake Snell having a private moment together.

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Speaker 3: Me and Blake Snell Man we got we would stay

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Speaker 3: in hydrated. We was crazy, He's crazy. Yes, I did

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Speaker 3: who my and I gotta tell you. Of all the

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Speaker 3: things I've posted, the thing that got the most traction

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Speaker 4: That was like, oh God, be.

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Speaker 2: Pleasing, hoping you were doing the impression right to his

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Speaker 3: You have to do total troll mentality. Man, you have

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Speaker 4: Oh, hi, Blake, I'm such a fan. Can I take

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Speaker 3: That's the impression of what you do when you do

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you saw this. This dropped today.

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Speaker 3: Scott Bogman wrote lyrics because I joked around how it

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Speaker 4: So track number one is gotta get mine? Uh? Two

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Speaker 3: That's a me thing. Three is not very nice. Can't

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Speaker 3: Number seven is mean spotty facial hair. And number eight

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Speaker 2: Risking my life definitely, And I love that it was

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Speaker 1: That was that was the most important, That life was

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Speaker 3: You know, the worst part about it is Blake couldn't

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Speaker 3: having a lot of fun with it. A few mean

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Speaker 2: Well give a thousands, so you're out of that. So

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Speaker 2: table now. Today we're gonna go through the All Breakout Team,

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Speaker 2: which last week we did the All Bus Team. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: Not all rookies are the guys that have breakouts.

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Speaker 2: You have guys who have breakouts sometimes in their third

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Speaker 1: It's hard to identify them.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna do our best today, and I gotta say

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Speaker 2: haven't realized it. I feel like that's kind of what

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but it is tougher, That's what I was saying

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Speaker 4: But we'll see what people think.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, let's see what people think of the

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Speaker 2: catcher Welsh, who you have as your breakout catcher for

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Speaker 3: Well, I thought you stole the good one. You stole

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Speaker 3: If you're talking about breakout, there's some older guys that

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Speaker 3: was like, it's not like a breakout, Mitch Garver, that's

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Speaker 2: So I would had a huge breakout season a couple

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Speaker 3: Had you identified this as maybe like the All value team,

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Speaker 4: Now I'm gonna have kind of a theme to a

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Speaker 3: underperforming rookies giants. GM just recently said that Bart has

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Speaker 4: Bat in the lineup. Is bat just hasn't been consistent.

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Speaker 3: But I think one key here, especially for him staying

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Speaker 3: We just don't one hundred percent know who like Will

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Speaker 1: Guys just sitting clean up every day is far more

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Speaker 3: my trend of some of the guys I'm trying to

438
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Speaker 3: go with, this is a prime candidate of the You know,

439
00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:02,840
Speaker 3: all of those high end rookies over the last year

440
00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:04,439
Speaker 3: and a half that have been coming up and not

441
00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:07,480
Speaker 3: been producing. You know, you had COVID, you had weird

442
00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:10,320
Speaker 3: training regimens, you had all of the restrictions that were

443
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Speaker 3: out there, and then also these guys take a little

444
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Speaker 3: bit sometimes And kier Lof is a prime example of that,

445
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Speaker 3: and I love that pick.

446
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Honestly, had COVID not happened, there might be a

447
00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:22,640
Speaker 2: chance he might be further along already. So I think

448
00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:24,760
Speaker 2: that twenty twenty death he said a lot of guys

449
00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:27,240
Speaker 2: like him who will right on that precipice that year

450
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Speaker 2: in development.

451
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Speaker 1: It set them back a whole season. For me.

452
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Speaker 3: Also, in twenty nineteen in the Arizona Fall League, I

453
00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:37,080
Speaker 3: got to speak with Royce Lewis, and when I was

454
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Speaker 3: interviewing him, I kind of asked like, Hey, where is

455
00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:42,560
Speaker 3: Alex you know? And he had hurt his wrist earlier

456
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Speaker 3: that year and it was leading up and he got

457
00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:47,040
Speaker 3: right back in time for the minor league playoffs, and

458
00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:49,480
Speaker 3: he just didn't want to come, like he wasn't ready yet.

459
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Speaker 3: And then you had COVID, and then you had the

460
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Speaker 3: two thousand and one season all stapped on top of it,

461
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Speaker 3: and it pushed guys like Royce Lewis got pushed back

462
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Speaker 3: as well. Royce lost the entire last year with injury.

463
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Speaker 3: So both of those guys, had you not had the

464
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Speaker 3: COVID here probably would have been big impacts. In twenty

465
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Speaker 3: twenty one, Carrelf was a little bit this will be

466
00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:11,040
Speaker 3: the adjustment period for Alex Kerlof, and then this will

467
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Speaker 3: probably be the actual run for Royce Lewis this year.

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Speaker 1: Let's move across the diamond to second base.

487
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Speaker 2: Now, who is the second baseman that make sure all

488
00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,360
Speaker 2: breakout team Welsh.

489
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Speaker 3: So this is one of probably like two players that

490
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Speaker 3: might push the limits of this trend that I'm going with.

491
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Speaker 3: But I'm going with Josh Rojas with the Arizona Diamondbacks.

492
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Speaker 3: Josh Rojas, who by the way, has forty nine games

493
00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,720
Speaker 3: played last year at second base. He had I think

494
00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,680
Speaker 3: like eleven or twelve or something at shortstop and outfield.

495
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Speaker 3: So pinning the league or the format site that you

496
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Speaker 3: play on, he might have two to three different position eligibilities.

497
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Speaker 4: For him, which is really nice.

498
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Speaker 3: Josh Rojas looks like he's going to lead off for

499
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Speaker 3: the Arizona Diamondbacks this year, something that it's not the

500
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Speaker 3: biggest deal in the world. The Diambacks just resigned katetel Marte,

501
00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,760
Speaker 3: which they look like they're in a really bad spot

502
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Speaker 3: for what they're doing and how much money they don't

503
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Speaker 3: want to spend. But they just resign kateel Marte to

504
00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,560
Speaker 3: keep him for five more years. Really says something to

505
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Speaker 3: me about a guy like him not going this year,

506
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Speaker 3: and then, oh my god, who is going to hit

507
00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:03,840
Speaker 3: Josh Rojas in who is going to be there?

508
00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,240
Speaker 4: Is it going to be Peven Smith, Christian Walker and Rojas?

509
00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,320
Speaker 3: No, Katl's going to stay and he's going to be

510
00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,440
Speaker 3: here for a while and maybe they'll be more aggressive.

511
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Speaker 3: And how does that relate to Rojas? Well, these are

512
00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:14,800
Speaker 3: the guys are going to be hitting behind him. He

513
00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:18,040
Speaker 3: leads off for the Diamondbacks, which is huge, more at bats.

514
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Speaker 3: This is a double digit steals and homer. Guy hit

515
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Speaker 3: a homer just the other day in spring training.

516
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Speaker 1: Crush.

517
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Speaker 3: I'm trying to remember who it was off of. I

518
00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,280
Speaker 3: want to say Granky or something. He just absolutely crushed it.

519
00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,320
Speaker 3: This is a fifteen to fifteen guy who's going to

520
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Speaker 3: lead off for the Diamondbacks. Probably eighty plus runs is

521
00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:35,040
Speaker 3: not a very good team. But I think this is

522
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Speaker 3: the opportunity where I think most site projections have him

523
00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,800
Speaker 3: around like eleven or twelve homers, eleven or twelve stolen

524
00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:41,679
Speaker 3: bases that he could push twenty twenty.

525
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Speaker 4: Because he's going to push.

526
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Speaker 1: At bass to twenty twenty twelve.

527
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Speaker 4: You think the power is there.

528
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Speaker 1: I think.

529
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Speaker 3: I mean, if I were like putting money on it,

530
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Speaker 3: I would go more fifteen to twenty. But the problem

531
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Speaker 3: is or The positive is he's going to get so

532
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Speaker 3: many more at bats than the rest of these Diamondbacks,

533
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Speaker 3: assuming they can actually turn the lineup over more opportunities.

534
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Speaker 3: As long as he doesn't struggle is great. Plus he's

535
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Speaker 3: roster flexible where he can move around. There's not a

536
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:05,919
Speaker 3: lot of reason to take him out of the lineup

537
00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,360
Speaker 3: because he can play outfield, shortstop, second base. How many

538
00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 3: guys do you have like that that I think you

539
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:12,920
Speaker 3: know you're gonna push high into the six hundreds of

540
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Speaker 3: it bats that might get him a couple more homers,

541
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Speaker 3: So fifteen plus if I were breaking out, but maybe

542
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Speaker 3: twenty stolen bases.

543
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Speaker 4: Lavello is bad about stealing bases.

544
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Speaker 3: His job is on the line, and the Diamondbacks have

545
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,680
Speaker 3: got to manufacture runs. And that's what I like about Rojas.

546
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Speaker 3: The stolen bases might be extra sneaky. So I'm gonna

547
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Speaker 3: pick him for my second base breakout.

548
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Speaker 2: All right, for my second base breakout, It's Brendan Rodgers.

549
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Speaker 2: Let's go, baby, I'm excited. Colorado bats always make me happy.

550
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Speaker 2: And last year, I mean, if you're looking at what

551
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Speaker 2: he did last year too, eighty four, three, twenty eight, four,

552
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Speaker 2: seventy slash. Okay, I'll take that for a guy who's

553
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Speaker 2: twenty four years old. Again, it's funny say Mage's kill off.

554
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Speaker 1: Right.

555
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Speaker 2: So a lot of my breakout guys are kind of,

556
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Speaker 2: you know, a little past the prospect age of you know,

557
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 2: maybe a little bit of ballooms off the rows. But

558
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Speaker 2: once upon a time, Brendan Rodgers was this guy that

559
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 2: everybody was basically falling over themselves to draft. If you

560
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 2: look at his minor league track record. I know some

561
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:09,200
Speaker 2: favorable ballparks there too, but the minor leagues for him,

562
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Speaker 2: this is a guy at two ninety eight, three fifty four,

563
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 2: five oh four. You always saw the power there a

564
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,359
Speaker 2: career eight fifty eight ops there in the minor league.

565
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Speaker 2: So to me, that's gonna track. He's gonna get a

566
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:21,920
Speaker 2: fair amount of playing time. The Rommel Tapia trade really

567
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 2: opens up time for Connor Joe now. So I feel

568
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Speaker 2: like Brendan Rodgers this is his job now, I feel

569
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Speaker 2: like and we had one hundred and.

570
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Speaker 1: Two games last year he performed pretty well.

571
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Speaker 2: You're always gonna worry a little bit about guys outside

572
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Speaker 2: of Colorado. I get that, But at the same time,

573
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Speaker 2: when you're looking at value and you're looking at potential

574
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Speaker 2: that you're gonna look. He's going after guys like Labor

575
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 2: Torres is going after guys like cronin Worth. He's going

576
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Speaker 2: all the way down at second basement number twenty one.

577
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,720
Speaker 2: He's won seventy five overall. That is really cheap. So

578
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 2: for me, Brent Rodgers is this guy that I think

579
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Speaker 2: is gonna hit for a decent average, probably gonna approach

580
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Speaker 2: twenty bombs. That's pretty good at second base because there's

581
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Speaker 2: not a lot of guys at second base have to

582
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Speaker 2: get past that first grouping. I feel like Polanco's that cutoff,

583
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 2: and then after that it's a little dicey from like

584
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Speaker 2: ten to twenty, and then there's guys I like after

585
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Speaker 2: that in one of them is definitely Brendan Rodgers. So

586
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Speaker 2: let's move over to the third base side, the hot corner.

587
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 2: Who's man in the hot corner on the all breakout

588
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 2: team for the Welsh.

589
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 4: I am going with Alec Bohm.

590
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Speaker 3: This is one of those guys I've talked about a

591
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 3: couple of times where it's like there's just not enough

592
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,880
Speaker 3: career at bats. I think he's got just under six

593
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:26,399
Speaker 3: hundred career plate appearances, it's spread out from twenty twenty

594
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:28,359
Speaker 3: and it feels like he's got a lot more. But

595
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 3: this guy has like one legit season under his belt

596
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 3: spread across these last two years. He's turned in twenty five.

597
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,440
Speaker 3: He's always been He's a field guy. That's the thing

598
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 3: that when I spoke with him, like he wasn't into

599
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,680
Speaker 3: like a lot of analytics, and he wasn't into launching.

600
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 3: He was a field guy with pure raw power, so

601
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 3: he knew when he made contact the ball was going

602
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,399
Speaker 3: to travel. Now, since that time, he's made it to

603
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,680
Speaker 3: the majors. He's gotten to work with Bryce Harper, who

604
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 3: took him under his wing.

605
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 4: I think he's felt some serious struggles. His strikeout rate.

606
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Speaker 3: I think was kind of one of the highest that

607
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:01,200
Speaker 3: he's dealt with. It was a twenty six almost twenty

608
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,199
Speaker 3: seven percent last year, and he's usually sat. I think

609
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 3: he's at a career twenty four percent. That might actually

610
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,400
Speaker 3: only be doing the majors. I mean in the miners,

611
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:13,200
Speaker 3: he really never had outside of like ten plate appearances,

612
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,919
Speaker 3: he never had a season over twenty strikeout person. So

613
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 3: I mean he's striking out a little bit more. He's

614
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 3: pressing as he's learning who he is as a hitter.

615
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 3: This is prime time for him to learn who he

616
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 3: is as a hitter. And there's a lot of good

617
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,200
Speaker 3: boppers in there. They bring in like Castianos and Schwarber

618
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:28,639
Speaker 3: as well.

619
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Speaker 2: And these are just in that lineup now, so much

620
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,360
Speaker 2: less pressure. There's so much pressure on that kid.

621
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Speaker 1: I felt like and.

622
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Speaker 3: Also and also think about the possibility of like I'd

623
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Speaker 3: have to look where he is in the lineup. I'm

624
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 3: assuming he's gonna hit like six or seven, but the

625
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:41,679
Speaker 3: guys that are gonna be in front of him are

626
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,920
Speaker 3: most likely going to be the Schwarbers, the Castianos and

627
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:48,199
Speaker 3: the Harpers. There might be really great there might be

628
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 3: really great RBI opportunities. And for a guy that is

629
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 3: more hit than he is power, he's like an anti Schwarber,

630
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 3: Like Schwarber is just a gripe and rip it type.

631
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Speaker 4: Of guy that's not Boem.

632
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 3: So I to lean a little bit hopefully you know,

633
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 3: he's embraced analytics a little bit more. And you know,

634
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,159
Speaker 3: having a guy like Harper and your Bilt is fantastic.

635
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 3: And there's a lot of other good power hitters that

636
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,680
Speaker 3: you know, maybe can rub off on different ways to

637
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,160
Speaker 3: attack the ball that this seems like the prime yere

638
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 3: you talk about it. This is the post hype sleeper.

639
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,880
Speaker 3: A lot of these guys are these. Alex Kureloff prime example,

640
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 3: post hype sleeper. Everybody loved him, came up, he was

641
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 3: all right.

642
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,119
Speaker 1: Rogers went extent like everybody.

643
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 4: Rodgers is post post post hype sleeper.

644
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 1: But he's only twenty four. I mean, I'm not in

645
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 1: a break and he's in Colorado.

646
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 2: I mean, if he plays one hundred and forty games

647
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 2: this year, there's no way he's not going to.

648
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: Give you productivity. I mean, it's just it's just crazy.

649
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 1: But I love to make about bowlm in that lineup too.

650
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:37,919
Speaker 4: Now.

651
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,399
Speaker 2: I think it's a very different feel for him coming

652
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,439
Speaker 2: into the twenty twenty two season, which really matters.

653
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, like I said, full season of

654
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 3: the bat's post hype sleeper. These are these are a

655
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,880
Speaker 3: lot of Rogers is Like, let me look here at

656
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,640
Speaker 3: the guys that we've talked about, because I'm forgetting Rogers

657
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:57,400
Speaker 3: is probably Stevenson and Rodgers maybe the most expensive guys

658
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 3: that we've talked about. Most of these players are like

659
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,199
Speaker 3: post hundred for the most point, like maybe post one

660
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,919
Speaker 3: seventy five. These are in the free range of players.

661
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 3: Especially Boom is a guy that I've done plenty of

662
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 3: drafts where he doesn't go, so you can get him

663
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 3: as a corner infielder. Maybe you want to put him

664
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 3: on the watch just watch out because like I said,

665
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 3: this is a more feel hitter than he is a

666
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 3: you know, struggling big power hitter who's not finding his way.

667
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 3: Like him hitting two twenty doesn't really make sense unless

668
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 3: he's gone as a prospect. Him hitting two seventy with

669
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 3: a bunch of doubles and maybe lower on homers, that

670
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 3: is a more plausible range. But those are good possibilities.

671
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 3: Maybe high RBIs just watch out for Alec Bohm.

672
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,880
Speaker 2: All right, watch out for Gabrian Hayes. That's my third

673
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,160
Speaker 2: basement and my breakout guy. We often talk about the

674
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 2: guys who show up in the camp in the best

675
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 2: shape of their life. Well, Hayes actually in pretty good shape, Like,

676
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 2: he looks pretty good, he looks like he is ready

677
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:50,919
Speaker 2: to have a healthy season.

678
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 1: So hoping for the best there.

679
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 2: It was kind of a disappointment because it kind of

680
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,959
Speaker 2: started off quick if we recall last April, and then

681
00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,679
Speaker 2: he got hurt right away and it was just basically chasing, chasing.

682
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 1: Waterfalls after that, Poor Brian Hayes. I love that.

683
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 3: By the way, later that tweet they put out, I

684
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 3: think it was like the Pirates or something, or I

685
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:08,880
Speaker 3: don't remember who did it.

686
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 4: They did everything but say he's in the best shape

687
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 4: of his life.

688
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 3: They just they danced around the idea he was just

689
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 3: jacked and he's out there and they're like, Brian Hayes

690
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 3: physically looks amazing and they're all talented.

691
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 4: Just say best shape of his life. Just say it.

692
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,640
Speaker 2: But I mean, when you're a career four hundred slugging

693
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,120
Speaker 2: percentage guy and you play a corner spot, you better

694
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 2: be like Matt Chapman glove, you know, like that.

695
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 1: You've got to be that level.

696
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 2: So I think, you know, he realizes it, like I've

697
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 2: got to hit for more power. So if you're gonna

698
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 2: bulk up a little bit in the off season and

699
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 2: come in there ready to go hit some more home runs,

700
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 2: you can get up to that twenty mark. Once again,

701
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 2: I think he's more of a corner guy than it

702
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,719
Speaker 2: is a starting third basement lest in a very deep lead.

703
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 2: But when you have to start taking shots of guys

704
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 2: because third base isn't great this year, you end up

705
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 2: in that mix of the Ty France, Joha Mancatta, Gabrian Hayes, Right,

706
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 2: Brian Hayes at won sixty nine. I think I'd rather

707
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 2: have Cabrian Hayes at this point at the cheaper ADPs

708
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 2: eighteenth third basement off the board, and then you go

709
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 2: after a little bit too what's.

710
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 4: That and Hayes can run a little bit too exactly?

711
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 3: He might be a sneaky source of Yeah, like how

712
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 3: many guys at third base? Are you really going to

713
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 3: get significant soolen bases for? Obviously Jose Ramirez I think

714
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 3: really late a guy like John VR might be kind

715
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 3: of sneaky now that he's with the Cubs and he.

716
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 4: Qualifies a third.

717
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 3: But Hayes is one of those guys where you know,

718
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 3: it's interesting what you said too. You've seen a lot

719
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 3: of teams do this opposite where you have these power guys,

720
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 3: they want to move to these other positions that aren't

721
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 3: necessarily prime, like Andrew Vaughn when I told you he

722
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 3: did some workout at second and stuff like that where.

723
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 1: You moved to the last year.

724
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't necessarily They want power everywhere. So Hayes

725
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 3: has obviously got to embrace that, and he is. He's

726
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 3: a pure raw power guy. He just has not tapped

727
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 3: into it.

728
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 4: But this is a young kid.

729
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 3: He gives the contact kid in the miners who has

730
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 3: not tapped into it.

731
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 2: If he plays a full season and he gives me

732
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 2: like eighteen home runs and eight stolen bases or something

733
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 2: like that and hits two sixty five or two seventy,

734
00:29:58,400 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 2: I'll take that.

735
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 1: I'll take that the eighty. I think that's a decent

736
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 1: return on event.

737
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 4: Let me ask you something.

738
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 2: There's a chance you could even have more if how

739
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 2: he is indeed tapping into that power ceiling.

740
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 1: What's the question?

741
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 3: Have you looked at any of the projections on him.

742
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 4: That we're looking at him?

743
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 1: That that was kind of close to that. What does

744
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 1: ATC have? Man?

745
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 4: Why? Well, I wanted to ask you.

746
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 3: I wanted you to take a guess at projection, like

747
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 3: pick a system and then you guess.

748
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 1: I mean, let's do let's do Ariel because he's our Franks.

749
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 4: Okay, well, we'll do Aril.

750
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 2: I would think it would be fifteen home runs or

751
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 2: fourteen home runs something like that.

752
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 1: Probably it might right, you.

753
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 4: Absolutely nailed it.

754
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 3: Fifteen Homersteen runs six in one hundred and forty one games.

755
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 1: Two sixty five batting average, give or take.

756
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 4: I mean, are you looking at it?

757
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 1: Two second?

758
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 4: Now?

759
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 2: Look?

760
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 4: Two seconds is two sixty five? All right, Now, let's

761
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 4: do runs.

762
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 1: That's the tricky one of the seventy two.

763
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I was about to say, what numbers

764
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 3: for the power of all tonight? Uh, seventy seven, seventy

765
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 3: sixty Why I just ruined it?

766
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 4: Sixty three RBA.

767
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 3: How many stolen bases do you think ATC hasn't projected.

768
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 2: At I'm gonna stick with my eight because that was

769
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 2: my number.

770
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 1: Anyway, I think that's a good twelve. Okay, that great.

771
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 3: So fifteen and twelve with the two sixty five batting average,

772
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 3: that's not really build I don't think ATC, in order

773
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:16,719
Speaker 3: to any projection systems really build in the upside of

774
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 3: these guys like finding their way in their sophomore years.

775
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 3: So I just want to say, a projection system which

776
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 3: has got to model the median line, and this is

777
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 3: an aggregate system, has ATC is the highest in stolen

778
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 3: bases and highest in homers this So think that's the middle.

779
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 3: So if you believe that kee Brian Hayes is going

780
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 3: to make the proper adjustments this year, you believe in

781
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 3: him as an athlete. Could you be twenty fifteen on

782
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 3: a third baseman hitting two seventy five and go seventy

783
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 3: five to seventy five. Guess what if you do that's

784
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 3: top one hundred value and you're getting them near the

785
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 3: two hundreds. It's risky because you're betting on a rookie

786
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 3: or you know, a sophomore young player. But the idea

787
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 3: of the breakouts is this, and this is why he's

788
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 3: like a fun corner infielder to get.

789
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, still very cheap.

790
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 2: That's we're all about now, shortstop. I mean, this is

791
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 2: probably the easiest one for both of us. I'm sure

792
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 2: you had I'm sure you knew exactly who you were

793
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 2: going to say, and I knew exactly who I was

794
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 2: gonna say.

795
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 1: So no spoilers. If you listened to the show, you

796
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 1: know who Welsh is, So go ahead talk about Amed Rosario.

797
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, Ahmedrosario.

798
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 3: I mean I went through I tried to find like

799
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 3: other guys, but again, going with the breakouts, it's I

800
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 3: don't know, there's rookies I think about, but that's not

801
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 3: really the break up. I go with the mid Rosario.

802
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 3: He kind of broke out last year. We did do

803
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 3: the show where we were talking about, you know, who

804
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 3: is the next Cedric Mullins, and I picked him what

805
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 3: was it six most hits from July to September, power speed,

806
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 3: combo hitting at the top of the lineup. He's really

807
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 3: kind of found himself as a power hitter, which he

808
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 3: was never in in the minors. I think fifteen to

809
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 3: twenty is the mac. So I don't think he can

810
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 3: truly be Cedric Mullins, but I believe he can steal

811
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 3: more than fifteen stolen bases.

812
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:48,239
Speaker 4: Oh and I think he can hit.

813
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 1: He's done. He's done it twice.

814
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and in twenty four and year's with the Mets.

815
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 2: Speed's not the problem for Azario. The problem with Ario

816
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 2: was always the glove and the range at shortstop. That

817
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 2: to me, there was always a problem. And also I found,

818
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 2: you know, watching him as much as I did over

819
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 2: the years, he didn't hit good pitching, Like you know,

820
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 2: he could go out there and the quality guys or

821
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:08,959
Speaker 2: the relievers he'd beat up on.

822
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 1: But if he gave him any good pitching, he was toast.

823
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 2: Now again, I didn't watch a lot of com at

824
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 2: Rosario at bats last year on full disclosure. But if

825
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 2: he can make that adjustment here, you know, a little

826
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 2: later in his career, that's going to help him certainly

827
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 2: kind of maybe reach that potential you're talking about.

828
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's like a twenty to the twenty strikeout marker.

829
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 3: He walked more this past year than he ever did before,

830
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 3: and projections are not favorable. Even though you say, you know,

831
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 3: he did steal twenty four bases in twenty eighteen. He's

832
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 3: failed to get twenty any other year. But even ATC

833
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 3: has him at fourteen stolen bases but almost a two

834
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 3: to eighty batting average, hitting near the top of the lineup.

835
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 3: It's not a great lineup, but again, this is going

836
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 3: to be an aggressive team. I think twenty stolen bases

837
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 3: is pretty easy in line. You could be in that

838
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 3: fifteen homer marker. I know, I feel like I've mentioned

839
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 3: multiple guys in this same place, but this is the

840
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 3: marker that I have on him. I'm not afraid to

841
00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 3: go into battle with Josh Rojas and I'm me and

842
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 3: Rosario on my team. Preferably middle and corner. But those

843
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 3: are guys that are this cheap stolen base. They qualify

844
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 3: multiple positions. And if Rosario does, let's say, push that twenty, like,

845
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,479
Speaker 3: let's see, he'll eeds to be I think a twenty

846
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,399
Speaker 3: stolen base guy. Even though projections at fourteen. I think

847
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,800
Speaker 3: if he pushes the twenty twenty, you're talking about Rosario

848
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 3: maybe being inside the top fifty this coming year. So

849
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 3: he's just a guy that I want to jump all over,

850
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 3: get all the stuff and even the runs. You know,

851
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,280
Speaker 3: if we can push eighty plus runs, he's a pretty

852
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 3: easy breakout candidate.

853
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 2: I think you know what I was just thinking, Welsh,

854
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 2: all those people who spend all those hours and weeks

855
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 2: and months working these projection systems. All you need is

856
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 2: Joe p's a pee his brain. Really, I could just

857
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 2: spout out the numbers. Apparently it's the same stuff.

858
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 3: Apparently, Nic I mean, if you had gotten one more,

859
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 3: I'm telling you had gotten one more, I say, all right,

860
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 3: I'll call you in twenty minutes.

861
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:52,839
Speaker 4: We're gonna go over.

862
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go to the store, we're gonna play some

863
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 3: Arizona power Ball, and you're gonna pick my numbers for me.

864
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,359
Speaker 2: But I mean, you know, projection systems are all trying

865
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 2: to give you the best I think, the most accurate,

866
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 2: best ish case scenario, and they're all based in something

867
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 2: that the guy has just done previously for the most part,

868
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 2: with some sort of mild rehash. So the mild the

869
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 2: mild look ahead after the rehash is a little bit

870
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 2: of growth. So if you just kind of take what

871
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 2: you saw last year and put a little growth, that's

872
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 2: kind of what it it would be.

873
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: You know, it's tough.

874
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 3: It's tough because, like you can predict some things. Whatever

875
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,439
Speaker 3: a picture's x FIP was the year before, that will

876
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,320
Speaker 3: be the projected era most likely for a picture.

877
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:31,760
Speaker 4: If you look over.

878
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,919
Speaker 3: Three years, and if you can mentally do math quick

879
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 3: and you look over a three year marker, you can

880
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 3: probably find the averages pretty quick.

881
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 4: If you know it's thirty.

882
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 3: And twenty and twenty five, guess you're probably going to

883
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:44,879
Speaker 3: have twenty five.

884
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 4: Well, that's what a lot of projection systems go off.

885
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 4: I mean, you're probably gonna find the average twenty five.

886
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 2: Because your coverage gives you a really strong sample size

887
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 2: of the identity of a player over a period of time.

888
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 3: Where they're differing themselves a little bit. Is like CARDI

889
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 3: with the bat X is there's lot more ballpark factors

890
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 3: that are being involved in it, which I think open

891
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 3: it up. And ATC specifically is really unique because it's

892
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 3: an aggregate of everything. So if you don't like I

893
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 3: think there's some people that love Steamer, there's some that

894
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 3: you know, love the bat or the bat X and

895
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 3: if you don't want to play that game, ATC just

896
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 3: gets them all and finds you a good media and

897
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,240
Speaker 3: value and that's why, you know, to Ariol's credit, Ariol

898
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 3: ariols ATC is three time Fantasy Pro most Accurate projection system.

899
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 1: And not only that, I was gonna say, now, I

900
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 1: was gonna pop them.

901
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 2: Not only did you win last year at the most accurate,

902
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 2: but guess who was number two the Fantasy Pro system?

903
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 1: How about them appen? Oh that's right, not bad.

904
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 4: I didn't know that. I didn't know that.

905
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:38,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, number two.

906
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 4: You know, let's go.

907
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 2: You can't give yourself awards though, and he's got to

908
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:43,439
Speaker 2: slap yourself in the face.

909
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 3: I mean you can you could also like, yeah, we

910
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 3: could also put us in the you know, running to

911
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 3: win those autograph jerseys too. I mean, we can do

912
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:50,399
Speaker 3: things if you want.

913
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 2: I mean, technically I could unsubscribe to the channel and

914
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 2: resubscribe and try to win the Austin Riley jersey, but

915
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 2: you know that seems like a lot of work at

916
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 2: this point for me. I want to talk to you

917
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,800
Speaker 2: about Willie Adams. That's my sh shortstop of choice.

918
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 1: Last year.

919
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 2: You know, he's been complaining for years about the batter's

920
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 2: eye in Tropicana Field, and it showed. He had a

921
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 2: buck ninety seven over forty games last year there.

922
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 1: He was just dreadful. He was terrible.

923
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 2: They deal him to Milwaukee, and what a difference the

924
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 2: move makes. He then goes on over the last ninety

925
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 2: nine games of the season to hit two eighty five

926
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 2: with a three sixty six OBP and a five to

927
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,800
Speaker 2: twenty one slugging and eight eighty six ops. Just getting

928
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 2: the heck out of Tampa is all he needed. He

929
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 2: hit twenty bombs there, so twenty five on the year,

930
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 2: but twenty of them in those ninety nine games for Milwaukee,

931
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 2: and I just think this is a guy that's got

932
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 2: a whole new lease on life.

933
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 1: I also like the fact that they've got had a

934
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:40,839
Speaker 1: renfro there.

935
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 2: I also like the fact that you know, if you

936
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 2: do believe that you can get Christian Yellish to bounce

937
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 2: back in this lineup, this lineup might be better than

938
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 2: people realize. If Yelwich bounces back, he is kind of

939
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,760
Speaker 2: the lynchpin for me. I wish they had done maybe

940
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 2: one more thing to give them a little bit more

941
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:55,320
Speaker 2: of a cushion.

942
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: But William Doms.

943
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,879
Speaker 2: To me is that guy that I'm all over this year.

944
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 2: I love draft in him at shortstop. I think he

945
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 2: can give you power. I think when you everybody talked

946
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 2: about deep shorts up it's so deep.

947
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 1: It's so deep it is, but you.

948
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 2: Could also wait on it and if you choose to,

949
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 2: then you can get him at one thirty six overall,

950
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 2: and he's the twenty shorts up off the board.

951
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 3: He's one of those guys. He kills me too. Man,

952
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 3: He's one of those guys I was so big on

953
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 3: when he was a Ray and he never clicked, and

954
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 3: then I just.

955
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 2: Want playing in the minor leagues, and you're like, this

956
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 2: guy's got and let him go.

957
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 1: Got it.

958
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,320
Speaker 2: He's got that thing, but he just couldn't see the baseball.

959
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 2: I mean literally, you look at the splits and it's there.

960
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 2: It's just so obviously how bad he was in that ballpark.

961
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 2: And I think when you have any major league talent,

962
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,399
Speaker 2: I think it's are so ware on them mentally where

963
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 2: it's like, oh, why can't I do this? And then

964
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 2: they press and then they have the pressure of who's

965
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 2: the next kid coming behind me?

966
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:44,839
Speaker 1: Oh, it's this Wander Franco guy. He's unbelievable.

967
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 4: And well that's also for him.

968
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 2: Just need the change of salary. And people say, well,

969
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 2: he broke out already. Ninety nine games isn't enough for me.

970
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 2: I want a full season breakout. That's what I'm looking

971
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 2: for here. We're really I think he can go from

972
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 2: twenty wels. Honestly, I think he could be a thirty

973
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 2: home run guy, and that to me is breakout.

974
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's why you know they talk about change

975
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 3: the scenery. Sometimes it is necessary. It just kills me.

976
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 3: He's one of those guys we all have it where

977
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,399
Speaker 3: you're in, you're in, you're in, then it doesn't work,

978
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 3: then it doesn't work again. Like I think like two

979
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 3: year three, three years ago, I had him as like

980
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 3: a breakout and then it was like, all right, we're

981
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 3: just not happening, and the change of scenery was everything

982
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,479
Speaker 3: for him. And people also forget Willie Damas was the

983
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 3: core piece in the David Price trade. The David Price

984
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 3: trade between the Rays and the Detroit Tigers. It was

985
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 3: like four guys. Everyone got up in arms about it.

986
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 3: But Adama's at that time was like low a and

987
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 3: he was the lynchpin to that move. So he's a

988
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 3: rock star and he's one of those reasons why you

989
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 3: can wait.

990
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 1: Some of those guys you love.

991
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 2: And they never figured out who's that angel's third base?

992
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 2: But was that Brandon Wood?

993
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 4: Was that Dallas McPherson, Brandon Wood? Both of them? Brewood

994
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 4: was the big one. Yeah uh.

995
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 2: And Gordon Beckham remember him too. It was another guy

996
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 2: white socks, trying to wait for him to break out

997
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 2: and it just never happened. Some guys never happens. It

998
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 2: happened last year. You saw the beginning of it, and

999
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 2: now it's for the full season version.

1000
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 3: All right, remember, let's do it, hold on, Let's do

1001
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 3: a whole show one time where we just go remember that,

1002
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 3: like remember dustin act.

1003
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:04,439
Speaker 2: Member berries are going to be tangents like this all

1004
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 2: the time, it will do a random player of the day.

1005
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 1: Maybe we could do that.

1006
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 4: Remember, yeah, it'll just be called yeah.

1007
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:13,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, members only, that's what we got.

1008
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 4: I like that. I like it, all right, sorry, all right?

1009
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 1: It was the outfielder. Oh I made your team here

1010
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 1: for the all breakout list.

1011
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 3: Well, you went with the most obvious one that I

1012
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 3: agree with, So I'm going with the secondary one.

1013
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 4: And I'm not even so sure.

1014
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 3: I don't I don't know how people feel about him,

1015
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 3: and I'm not sure I would go like out on

1016
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 3: a huge limb for it. But it's the same theme,

1017
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 3: and I'm picking Jared Kelnick. And here's one of those

1018
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 3: reasons as well. Let's go back to what we were

1019
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 3: talking about a little bit earlier in the show, and

1020
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 3: I was mentioning with Joey Bart. Kelnick is in the

1021
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 3: exact same situation where, uniquely this offseason, he is in

1022
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 3: a position where he has this back run of major

1023
00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 3: like real major league you know experience. He has failing,

1024
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 3: like really big failing under his back, and he has

1025
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 3: a little bit of a run on the back end

1026
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 3: of the year where he started to connect a little bit.

1027
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 3: So then come this spring training, what's happening he is

1028
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,320
Speaker 3: being treated as the guy with the job. He hasn't

1029
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,760
Speaker 3: always had that, you know, send him down to the miners.

1030
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 3: He's working. I've been over to the marine facility four

1031
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 3: or five times. Every time. He is attached at the

1032
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 3: hip with usually Mitch Haniger and now Jesse Winker. I

1033
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 3: see those guys working every single day. He's one of

1034
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 3: the last guys out on the field. It's bp heading practice.

1035
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 3: He looks locked in, you know. I think for a

1036
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,760
Speaker 3: guy like Jared Kilnick, who has always succeeded, he's always

1037
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 3: kind of been the guy. He was one of the

1038
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:44,240
Speaker 3: most prolific contact hitters coming out of high school.

1039
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 4: He was a face of a trade.

1040
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:47,800
Speaker 3: He was a face of an organization, him and Julio

1041
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:51,240
Speaker 3: where you know, this team didn't have superstars and weren't winners.

1042
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 4: That's a lot of pressure. I don't mean to keep

1043
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 4: doing this.

1044
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 3: But another guy I talked to in nineteen in the

1045
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 3: foll League, he told me his goal in twenty twenty

1046
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 3: was to make the major leagues. And he also he

1047
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,839
Speaker 3: thinks of stats like he had a goal of being

1048
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 3: a twenty twenty guy in that twenty nineteen season, and

1049
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 3: he said that was a goal that I hit, and

1050
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 3: he wants to hit the majors, So you know he's

1051
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 3: re established new goals. But he has the one thing,

1052
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 3: like I said, I don't think he really had under

1053
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 3: him was failing. And you know, there's a lot of

1054
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 3: really really good hitters there that he gets to bounce

1055
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 3: off of. Now you've got obviously Mitch in the breakoup,

1056
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 3: but you guys got you got like Jesse Winker, I

1057
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 3: think is a really important one for him to kind

1058
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 3: of be able to rub off on. And he's being

1059
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 3: given the opportunity to have that job, and I think

1060
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 3: it's all prime stuff. We're taking very short sample sizes

1061
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:39,800
Speaker 3: on why we don't like Jared Kelnick, why he doesn't

1062
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,839
Speaker 3: work Indy of the day. He is a significant five

1063
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 3: tool player, he has been in the minors and it

1064
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 3: just might be taking a little bit of time here.

1065
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 3: So I'm going to take my all breakout Jared Kelnick.

1066
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: Any concern that Rodriguez just blows.

1067
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 3: Right by him, I think that can happen, but I

1068
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,240
Speaker 3: don't think it's at the expense of his job.

1069
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 4: Kyle lewis prepared actually hurt.

1070
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 3: He's hurt again. He's not doing anything on the camps.

1071
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 3: He's just like kind of like walking around and he's

1072
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 3: not out there. Taylor Trammel, I think they see him

1073
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 3: as a four out fourth outfielder.

1074
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 4: I could be incorrect about that.

1075
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 3: Julio is starting almost every day and he's starting in center,

1076
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 3: but I don't think that's Kelnick's job. I think it

1077
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 3: is Winker and left, kel Nick and right, and Julio

1078
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 3: in center. And you got Mitch Hannager at diggate. So

1079
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,359
Speaker 3: what's the problem here. Taylor Tremil is the only other guy,

1080
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 3: and Kyle Lewis who is always hurt.

1081
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 4: In missing time that I think.

1082
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 3: I think Julio Rodriguez, I've thought this for a long time,

1083
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 3: is the better dynasty option, even when Kelnick was.

1084
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: Close Shrew, Oh no, you always were that, You always

1085
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 1: right three years.

1086
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, And Julio is the bigger personality, he's the bigger star.

1087
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 3: He's going to get more attention, which could be good

1088
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 3: or bad for Jared Kelnick. But if Kelnick focuses on

1089
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 3: the game, he's not going to be overpassed for Julio

1090
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,320
Speaker 3: Rodriguez unless he starts hitting a buck fifteen again.

1091
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 4: I'll make the bet that it's going to turn and

1092
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 4: if it does.

1093
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 3: Watch out because this could he could be Robert, Like

1094
00:43:58,360 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 3: that's the type of guy that he is.

1095
00:43:59,680 --> 00:43:59,839
Speaker 2: Her.

1096
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, he hits.

1097
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 3: He hits, a big, big homers, huge barrel contact type

1098
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 3: of guy. But he completely fell apart the last two years.

1099
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 3: So I will go with Jared Kellent. I think Kelln

1100
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 3: is like like twenty two years old, still twenty three

1101
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 3: years old.

1102
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 1: He's still very young. He's still very young.

1103
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 2: You were always a Julio guy over Keller Nick and

1104
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 2: all those arguments back in the day.

1105
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 3: So twenty two, thank you, just a.

1106
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 4: Toy maybe toy boy. He could be our he could

1107
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 4: be our child. We could be like kind of like

1108
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 4: young parents.

1109
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 1: That's more of an indictment on us.

1110
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, but now now we're young parents, and now we're

1111
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 2: out there enjoying life. See that's the thing if you

1112
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 2: are a young parent, like my buddy, he had his

1113
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 2: kids when he was on the younger side, and now

1114
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:42,240
Speaker 2: they're in college or you know, just getting to college,

1115
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 2: and now he's like out of this free time and

1116
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 2: he's still like young enough to enjoy it.

1117
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 3: So we're like a little bit older, Like I had

1118
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,320
Speaker 3: my first kid at like twenty eight or something.

1119
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,439
Speaker 4: Like or no, obviously he was like twenty nine or something.

1120
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, eh, what again. Anyway, Joe Adell's still let's talk

1121
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 1: about let's.

1122
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 2: Talk about him. He is just twenty two years old,

1123
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 2: so to be twenty three. I know last year was

1124
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,359
Speaker 2: not great for jo Adell at the major league level.

1125
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 2: It was kind of a disappointment. But the minor league

1126
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 2: track record is there.

1127
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: I believe in it.

1128
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 2: An eight ninety three career OPS over two hundred and

1129
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 2: ninety seven games, a career two ninety six hitter in

1130
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 2: the minor leagues. He's got power, he's got speed. He's

1131
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 2: crushing the ball.

1132
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 4: On a spring under him right now.

1133
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 2: Three home runs already, three steals, hitting two seventy three.

1134
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 2: The ops is ten ninety three right now for him.

1135
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 2: So look, jo Adell, it's all about playing time. And

1136
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 2: I know marsh is a nice player too, so it's

1137
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:40,800
Speaker 2: whether or not he can crack over the three.

1138
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 1: Hundred at that plateau.

1139
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 2: If he does, I think he's gonna have a breakout season,

1140
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 2: and I think he's gonna force their hand. I really

1141
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 2: do Welsh, I mean, Justin Upton's old and hurt all

1142
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 2: the time, just like us, So I think that you're

1143
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 2: gonna see jo Adell get an opportunity, and if he

1144
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 2: plays the way he's playing right now and carries this over,

1145
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 2: there's a good chance that he does go over that

1146
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 2: three hundred and or three hundred three fifty plate appearances.

1147
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,240
Speaker 2: And when you get that in the app bats area,

1148
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:05,959
Speaker 2: then this guy's the limit.

1149
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 1: Then he could really have a huge breakout.

1150
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 2: But I think, yeah, this people just get too sour

1151
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 2: too fast on guys with talent. It's just it's crazy.

1152
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 2: Not everybody's Wander Franco or Juan Soto.

1153
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 4: This is the exact same celnic thing.

1154
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:18,879
Speaker 3: And I hate to I don't want to be like, oh,

1155
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 3: listen to me, and I've been, but Jodell is somebody

1156
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 3: for about two years, even through all the struggles, I said,

1157
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 3: I'm just not done with Jodell.

1158
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 1: I'm not.

1159
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 4: He is a freak athlete.

1160
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 3: He really is a big problem. He had those when

1161
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 3: he came up. Nobody looked more fooled by any pitching

1162
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 3: than him. And you realize, like, oh, man, this is

1163
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 3: a freak athlete who was taking advantage of maybe not

1164
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 3: advanced pitching that he was going through the minor league

1165
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:43,280
Speaker 3: for whatever reason.

1166
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 4: It was well That's how I.

1167
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:45,360
Speaker 1: Talked about Buxton.

1168
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 2: He was always a much better athlete than a baseball player,

1169
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 2: and he had to kind of get that over time.

1170
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 2: He was just he was a freakishly good athlete, and

1171
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 2: then over time he had to kind of become a

1172
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 2: baseball player. There's been plenty of guys that have had

1173
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 2: success and then some guys that never happened.

1174
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 3: For But it doesn't really smart too. He's like a

1175
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 3: really he's like really in tune to like who he

1176
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:07,879
Speaker 3: is and he was. This is one more anecdotal thing.

1177
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,319
Speaker 3: So this is like name droppy all day long. But yes,

1178
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 3: I did interview Jodell as well on prospect.

1179
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 1: We just got to get like a think like a

1180
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 1: broom to Welsh interviewed.

1181
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 4: But see, here's the problem.

1182
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 3: Though I've been doing this for quite a while, we're

1183
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 3: now in the place where I've gotten my hands on

1184
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 3: so many minor leaguers that all the major leaguers arazing.

1185
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 3: But now we're at the point where I've gotten through

1186
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 3: multiple years that all these guys are major leaguers. So

1187
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 3: I have all this reference point. It's just gonna happen.

1188
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 3: But Adele was the one guy everybody ever everybody always.

1189
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 4: Tiptoes around answers. You know.

1190
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 3: Oh you know, I've asked like, what type of hitter

1191
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 3: are you?

1192
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 4: And how do you change as a hitter? Blah blah blah.

1193
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 3: All the guys that kind of give that same answer

1194
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 3: be like, well, you know, kind of a gap to

1195
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 3: gap hitter, and I'm not really trying to hit for power.

1196
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:54,840
Speaker 3: It's like a cookie. Jodelle is the only guy that

1197
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 3: didn't give me that. He's just like, no, I know

1198
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 3: when to turn on a ball. I'm absolutely trying to

1199
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 3: hit a home And that's probably.

1200
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 4: A little bit of his mistake, by the way, maybe.

1201
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:04,320
Speaker 3: But he was the only one that was really honest

1202
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 3: about how he would approach different at bats and how

1203
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 3: he could hit for power. I'm definitely into it. The

1204
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 3: spring looks like a big connection. He had a little

1205
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 3: bit of a thing with some people that I knew

1206
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 3: about that feared he couldn't hit anything above like ninety

1207
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:22,280
Speaker 3: three up in the zone because he was so looking

1208
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,879
Speaker 3: for offspeed trying to be able to adjust off speed

1209
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 3: breaking stuff that he was beaten like crazy. And that

1210
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 3: doesn't seem to be the case now. But let me

1211
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:32,280
Speaker 3: ask you this. Two things Jodell. Let's play the Jodell

1212
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 3: projection game again, and I got one more for you.

1213
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:38,240
Speaker 3: Let's go to ATC. What do you think the Jodell

1214
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 3: production projectionsone.

1215
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask you first for how many at bats

1216
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 2: is he getting?

1217
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 4: Okay, you got it, he is getting.

1218
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 1: That's the gauge. If I don't know the at bats,

1219
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 1: I can't even come close to these.

1220
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 3: One hundred and da da da. Let's see, this is

1221
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,320
Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty two games, five hundred and twenty

1222
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 3: five played appearances. I'm sorry, five oh three played appearances,

1223
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,240
Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty six games, twenty six on ATC.

1224
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 1: That's pretty good. So what do you want? You want

1225
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 1: stolen bases?

1226
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 4: Let's start with homers.

1227
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 2: Uh wow, I thought he's gonna give him eighteen.

1228
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 3: You are very very close nineteen homers. The bat X

1229
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 3: projects him at eighteen, so that's very good. How about runs?

1230
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 1: Uh sixty five, almost sixty?

1231
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:28,280
Speaker 4: How many RBI?

1232
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,240
Speaker 1: Okay, fifty seven?

1233
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 4: Oh see, you you.

1234
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 3: Would have the last one. Sixty five is the RBI

1235
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 3: batting average?

1236
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 1: Batting average? Give me a let's go to sixty. That's

1237
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 1: my overunder on it.

1238
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 4: Two forty one. Yeah, and stolen bases.

1239
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 3: Nine seven. So check this out. Let's come back to

1240
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 3: that same thing we did before. These are baseline. This

1241
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 3: is the baseline for a rookie the doesn't have a

1242
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 3: long projection struggle. Yeah Jodell nineteen or yeah nineteen homers

1243
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 3: seven at two forty essentially sixty and sixty if we

1244
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:12,799
Speaker 3: round up, think of upside here. What if Jodell does

1245
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 3: hit two sixty twenty five homers, maybe he steals a

1246
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 3: little bit more. So here's the other thing I asked you,

1247
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 3: And this might be a really great, good poll question.

1248
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 2: I mean, everybody that twenty eight overall right now too,

1249
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 2: by the way, getting potentially there.

1250
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:28,280
Speaker 3: So this might be a poll question. Is which breakout

1251
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:32,439
Speaker 3: outfielder do you want? Jared Kalnick, who costs a top

1252
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 3: one twenty five overall pick or Joeydell, who costs a

1253
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 3: two twenty and well, which breakout any one?

1254
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 2: I'll we should definitely put that pole out. But I

1255
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:47,720
Speaker 2: think the fallacy hero iguins the trap is that thinking

1256
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:50,799
Speaker 2: that kalen Nick's at bats are completely locked in and

1257
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 2: Adele's aren't. That at the end of the day, it

1258
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 2: might be the inverse, like Adele might find his way

1259
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 2: into it and Calenick could play his way out of

1260
00:50:57,719 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 2: it potentially.

1261
00:50:58,719 --> 00:50:59,919
Speaker 4: Again, see that's a putt.

1262
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 3: I think they're both in so I would even be

1263
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 3: comfortable take away their possibility.

1264
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 1: And I think that's what you see the variance in

1265
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 1: their ADP so much.

1266
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 3: But maybe that's why also you take ADP out of

1267
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 3: the equation and you just go, who is the better

1268
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 3: breakout star for this year? Because here's the other caveat

1269
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 3: Adele is breaking out spring. He is a hot hot

1270
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 3: bat in spring, where kel Nick is really not done

1271
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 3: a whole lot. So I think he's out of people's

1272
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 3: minds right now. So who is the better breakout outfield

1273
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 3: star to you know, for you to take a shot on.

1274
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 3: Is it Jared Keelnick or is it jo Adell? I mean,

1275
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:34,959
Speaker 3: what should you pick? You had Jodell on him.

1276
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take Joydell.

1277
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 2: I want the cheaper one because I still know what

1278
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 2: the Kellenick Rangers guys that can really I know are

1279
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 2: going to contribute still on a certain level, Kellenick still

1280
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 2: a little bit of an unknown.

1281
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 3: I think I would pick Joeydell right now too, based

1282
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 3: on that exact same thing. Guys like alex fordual, I'm not.

1283
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 1: Getting ten by the spring.

1284
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 2: I've seen guys have great springs and then fall in

1285
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 2: their face a million times, so like I'm not.

1286
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 1: Being dupe by them.

1287
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 2: I'm buying into what I saw in the minor leagues

1288
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 2: and the track record and like you said, the athleticism

1289
00:51:58,200 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 2: that he can make adjustments. All right, let's go to

1290
00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 2: the pitchers. Give me two pictures on the breakout team

1291
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 2: for the Welsh And why the.

1292
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:05,399
Speaker 4: Two pictures I have got?

1293
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 3: Oh, mister Michael Kopek, who we have talked about a

1294
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 3: whole bunch who I didn't take it from you.

1295
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 4: I know, I was happy. I was happy about that.

1296
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:13,839
Speaker 1: It's a crumb I gave you.

1297
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 3: Michael Kopek. You know he's always in fantastic shape. I

1298
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 3: just was over at White Sox camp where I got

1299
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 3: my nice little Lanceln picture and he was out there

1300
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 3: and he was interacting.

1301
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 4: Looks good.

1302
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 3: I mean physically, he just is so imposing. He's probably

1303
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 3: like Lucas Giolito is Jack, dude. I don't know if

1304
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:31,720
Speaker 3: everybody has seen it, like when you see him in person,

1305
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 3: Oh my god, he is absolutely Jack, but the second

1306
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 3: most physically imposing picture out there is Kopek and the

1307
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 3: same thing as before. You know, he was with the

1308
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 3: major league team last year, but he was returning from

1309
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,319
Speaker 3: Tommy John. He had these injuries and he was going

1310
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 3: in a relief role. This is a year for him

1311
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 3: to be working more with the starters, even though I

1312
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 3: have seen him with like Garrett Crochet and the relievers

1313
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:52,799
Speaker 3: a little bit. I am hopeful that he has stretched out.

1314
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 3: He's such a big strikeout option. I love Michael Kopek

1315
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:58,280
Speaker 3: as a big breakout. And the other one is Logan

1316
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 3: Gilbert with the Seattle Mariners. This is a year and anecdotally,

1317
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:03,840
Speaker 3: I could just tell you I was just at Mariners

1318
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:07,399
Speaker 3: camp and this guy is so intense and locked in.

1319
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 3: Two days ago, they had a spring he wasn't in

1320
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 3: the game, and they have the minor league games in

1321
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 3: the back. He was out at the minor league games

1322
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 3: watching and like scouting and going through. Was just at

1323
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:20,399
Speaker 3: the Mariners camp. Everybody was gone, all the pitchers far

1324
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 3: gone for the day. He stayed out on the throwing

1325
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 3: mound working by himself for over an hour. All the

1326
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 3: hitters were gone, all the pitchers are gone, and he

1327
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:32,359
Speaker 3: kept out there just working, working, working, throwing at They

1328
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:35,720
Speaker 3: have these like mannequin looking hitters with a strike zone

1329
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:36,839
Speaker 3: and then you know, a.

1330
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 4: Bucket for the ball.

1331
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 3: That guy was out there before I left, like I

1332
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 3: left and he was still out there. He's one of

1333
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 3: the hardest working guys major League. Remember when that's like

1334
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 3: what it was, That's exactly like what it is. It's

1335
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:49,720
Speaker 3: a one hundred percent.

1336
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1337
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 3: And I don't know if it was the owner, if

1338
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 3: it was the lady owner, but he's a high command

1339
00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 3: guy who I don't think he has the most insane

1340
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 3: stuff ever, but it's a really great organization as far

1341
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 3: as you know, teaching spin and being able to work

1342
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 3: through all that stuff that this is a good command pitcher.

1343
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 3: It's why I picked him last year. I thought is

1344
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 3: maybe the number one pitching prospect between him and Alec Manoa,

1345
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 3: and I think this is going to be a really

1346
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:15,760
Speaker 3: important year when he's.

1347
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 4: Got a rotation spot.

1348
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 3: There's a fantastic team built around him with lots of runs.

1349
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 3: I hope the er keeps down, but I think he's

1350
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 3: going to walk into double digit wins this year just

1351
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 3: based on the team. And he's one of the hardest

1352
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:28,839
Speaker 3: workers I've ever seen as far as a pitcher goes,

1353
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 3: so Logan Gilbert an easy breakout pitcher for me.

1354
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love the Gilbert pick too.

1355
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 2: I Mean, everybody knew Kopek was going to get on

1356
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 2: this list, but the Gilbert one to me, and I

1357
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 2: was actually just looking a little bit more at him,

1358
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 2: and it all just makes sense, man Like to me,

1359
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 2: it's an easy one.

1360
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 1: As you're saying, sometimes these are just easy now for me.

1361
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 2: One of them is Jill Ryan, who of the Minnesota

1362
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 2: Twins that you'd heard Ariel Cone on this show a

1363
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 2: few weeks ago talk about him and what he thinks

1364
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 2: so far of his potential to really take that next

1365
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 2: step forward. You saw a little teas of it last

1366
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 2: year on the big league level, you know, just just

1367
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:06,400
Speaker 2: to tease. Though five starts, twenty six innings pitch, he

1368
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 2: struck out thirty.

1369
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 1: Guys you walked only five.

1370
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:12,840
Speaker 2: Look, and I think he's like the number ninety seven

1371
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 2: prospect or something like that overall. So for some reason

1372
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 2: he's not as higher up on the prospect list. But

1373
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 2: sometimes the guys that show up and dominate aren't always

1374
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 2: the guys one through ten.

1375
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 1: It's just always like that.

1376
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:25,360
Speaker 4: It's right, he is Zach Gallon. By the way, is

1377
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 4: that like Joe Ryant?

1378
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:28,919
Speaker 3: Like I remember Zach Gallin, he didn't have he didn't

1379
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 3: have like the best stuff on the planet, but he

1380
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 3: kept dominating and dominating through the miners.

1381
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 2: Joe thing dominating is the right word because in the

1382
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:39,720
Speaker 2: minor leagues, two hundred and twenty six innings, three hundred

1383
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:42,799
Speaker 2: and twenty six strike its three hundred and twenty six strikeouts.

1384
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 2: That's an enormous number and just fifty three walks.

1385
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 4: So to me, it's just like Gallit just yeah, I

1386
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 4: love that bit.

1387
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 1: It's a great comp. The Gallon comp is a great one.

1388
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:55,280
Speaker 2: And the other one is a guy with Tampa who

1389
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 2: I don't think everybody even remembers about is Louis Patino, who,

1390
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 2: if he could just get healthy and on the mound,

1391
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 2: this was a prime pitching prospect just a couple of

1392
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 2: years ago with the Padres that everybody was once again

1393
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:09,400
Speaker 2: pushing their grandmother out of the way to get a

1394
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 2: hold of. And now now it's about does he get

1395
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 2: a crack at the rotation?

1396
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:14,880
Speaker 1: Is he healthy enough?

1397
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:18,799
Speaker 2: Because this is another player that has vast potential, had

1398
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:21,840
Speaker 2: good control of the minor leagues, has that strikeout upside

1399
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:24,799
Speaker 2: that you're looking for ten point nine k per nine

1400
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 2: in the minor leagues over two hundred and sixty three innings.

1401
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:29,239
Speaker 2: I mean, this dude was a couple of years ago

1402
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:30,920
Speaker 2: people would ask you who was the best pitching prospect

1403
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:33,920
Speaker 2: in baseball. Many people would say Patino, right, and the

1404
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:36,359
Speaker 2: Tampa Bay Rays have a pretty good track record last

1405
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:39,319
Speaker 2: time I checked a grooming young pitching. So I'm all

1406
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 2: in on Patino this year everywhere I can get him

1407
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:44,279
Speaker 2: and then last and maybe least or maybe not. But

1408
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:46,919
Speaker 2: let's get to the relief pitchers here, and once again

1409
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 2: we like to sometimes, you know, tweak.

1410
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:50,399
Speaker 1: This a little bit.

1411
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 2: And I already have a mea culpa because I think

1412
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 2: a guy that I had on the bus list, you

1413
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 2: have on the breakout list now at this position, and

1414
00:56:57,560 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 2: I think I have in a week or so of

1415
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:02,799
Speaker 2: watching him pitch twice, I think I've come around. I

1416
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 2: think I'm already going to take him off my list

1417
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:05,360
Speaker 2: and agree with you.

1418
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:07,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't want to, like you know, you don't

1419
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:09,840
Speaker 3: want to take what happens in spring for the be

1420
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:13,319
Speaker 3: all end all. But when you see a picture, when

1421
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 3: you see a pitcher have their average velocity on their

1422
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:19,959
Speaker 3: fastball rise by around three miles per hour. It's something

1423
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 3: that you have to take notice on, and that's his

1424
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 3: use lozarda I didn't go with like a closing option here,

1425
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 3: you know, finding the right next young closer, especially young

1426
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 3: guys that are going to break out and be closers.

1427
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 3: I mean at that point it's Camilla daval, which I

1428
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 3: think you could if there was a young young guy

1429
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 3: who could start closing, he would qualify at that and

1430
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 3: that might be.

1431
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 4: A good breakout. But the guys that qualify it relief pitchers.

1432
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:40,959
Speaker 4: That's what you've got.

1433
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 3: That's what you've got, and he's just Lozardo who will

1434
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 3: qualify and over those spots a lot of injury issues.

1435
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 3: Looks like he's commanding his pitches better, his secondaries are

1436
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:50,920
Speaker 3: setting up the fastball. His fastball is going even more

1437
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 3: and in his last couple starts, I think Chris Clegg

1438
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 3: from Vantrax had noted it, which is a great note

1439
00:57:56,440 --> 00:58:00,480
Speaker 3: that in his last start in spring, Lizardo threw his

1440
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 3: curveball more than his fastball. I think it was forty

1441
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 3: to thirty five, thirty six percent curveball in favor of fastball.

1442
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 4: Which that's a great mix.

1443
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 3: If you can command your curveball to that level and

1444
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 3: get enough swings and misses on it where you can

1445
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 3: overpower that than your fastball, then you're gonna have hitters

1446
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 3: guessing all the time. And then guess what, By the way,

1447
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 3: if you can throw off speed breaking stuff and then

1448
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 3: you can command a ninety eight mile an hour fastball

1449
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 3: that's coming off of that, you're gonna give hitters fits.

1450
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 4: All day long.

1451
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:30,920
Speaker 3: I've also always loved Lozardo because he's a really smart,

1452
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 3: weird pitcher who does the different pitching mechanics. I don't

1453
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 3: know if he's scrapped it at all. I haven't really

1454
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 3: seen that yet, but he's one of those guys he

1455
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:40,959
Speaker 3: would have his normal rotation and then maybe his next

1456
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 3: pitch he would like stop and he would sit for

1457
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 3: three seconds and then throw it like he literally would

1458
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 3: have like five or six different ways to pitch, and

1459
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 3: it keeps timing off. And I love that with pitchers,

1460
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 3: and I hope to see that more. With more confidence,

1461
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:56,520
Speaker 3: better health, a better fastball, and command of secondaries that

1462
00:58:56,600 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 3: Lozardo's Yeah, He's just gonna be one of those beneficiaries

1463
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 3: for spring that I'm going to buy into and if

1464
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 3: I'm wrong, who cares?

1465
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 4: What's so cheap?

1466
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's where I mean, he's so free right now?

1467
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 1: Where is he right now?

1468
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 4: I think it's post three hundred?

1469
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 1: I want to say, is it still after this week?

1470
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 1: That's my only.

1471
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 3: Well if you, yeah, if you, if you're able to

1472
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 3: like time search it over the last week, I'll bet

1473
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 3: you he's probably Jesus three.

1474
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, to eighty nine right now in the consensus

1475
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 2: and Fantasy pros NFBC to eighty four.

1476
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 1: Uh so, all right, so let's gets in there, getting more,

1477
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 1: getting up.

1478
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 4: It's getting up there. It is getting drafted.

1479
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 2: He's no longer going to be a free you know,

1480
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 2: like on fan tracks though, he's even higher because you

1481
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 2: have a lot of dynasty leagues there. Yeah, so you

1482
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 2: know people are taking those shots early on that.

1483
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 1: All right.

1484
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 2: Last guy for me is Christian Xavier. You know that

1485
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 2: the relief picture that I'm very enamored of. Everybody you

1486
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:50,440
Speaker 2: know knows he's probably gonna start in the bullpen.

1487
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 1: That's fine. It's April.

1488
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 4: Actually, I think they announced it. They announced it today,

1489
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 4: Dusty Baker did.

1490
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm not surprised, but If you think that

1491
00:59:57,720 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 2: Jacob Derizi and Lance mccollors and those guys are gonna

1492
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 2: all pitch, you're nuts. Like I've it's like a James

1493
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 2: Bond movie, Like you know, you know the formula, you

1494
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 2: know what's coming down the pike. I wish Lance mccullors

1495
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 2: was going to be healthy enough to pitch and make

1496
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 2: thirty starts this year. I'm just very skeptical it's going

1497
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 2: to be the case. And you're also telling me that

1498
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 2: no one else in this rotation is going to misstart.

1499
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:20,479
Speaker 2: Christian Haavierre is gonna make starts. I think he's gonna

1500
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 2: make somewhere between fifteen and twenty this year. I really do,

1501
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:25,480
Speaker 2: And I think that's really worth investing in, especially those

1502
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 2: mandatory RP spot leagues, because I think he's a guy

1503
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:29,920
Speaker 2: that's got already gonna give you a ton of strikeouts

1504
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:32,440
Speaker 2: to strikeout rates off the chart. I think another year

1505
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 2: in the big leagues once again, this guy is just electric.

1506
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 2: So I'm bidding on the talent because I think the

1507
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:39,959
Speaker 2: opportunity is gonna present itself sooner than later. So let's

1508
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 2: recap the team here for the Welsh A catcher Joey

1509
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 2: Bart at first base, Spencer Toorklesen, then Josh Rojas at second,

1510
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 2: at third, Alec Bohm, almed Razzario which shortstop, the outfielder

1511
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 2: Jared Kalnick, then Michael Kopek, Logan Gilbert are the pitchers,

1512
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:56,080
Speaker 2: with Jesus Lozardo and for me behind the dishes, Tyler

1513
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 2: Stevenson at first is Alex kiro loov Bran Rodgers at second,

1514
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 2: Caprian Hayes a third at shortstop, Willia Doms, Joe Adell

1515
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 2: and the outfield Joe Ryan and Louis Patino are the

1516
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 2: pictures with Christian Javier as the reliever.

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Speaker 1: So pretty good list of names, Welsh. I feel like

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Speaker 1: these guys.

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Speaker 2: Are gonna have some really good seasons potentially ahead of

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Speaker 2: us in twenty twenty two. And just as a reminder

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Speaker 2: to everybody out there, I know you got drafts coming up.

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Speaker 1: Get on that.

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Speaker 2: we got the consensus Sleeper list, which is coming out

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Speaker 2: I think Tuesday, So depending on when you're listening to

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Speaker 2: this that Consensus Sleepers Featured Pros article, it's gonna have

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Speaker 2: a ton more names they're gonna be looking for in

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Speaker 2: your draft.

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Speaker 1: So get on that as well. And don't forget.

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Speaker 2: Jersey can be yours.

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Speaker 1: And don't forget the Welsh and.

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Speaker 2: Me Joey p five days a week talking baseball and

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Speaker 2: leading off right here on our YouTube channel, live at

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Speaker 2: noon so you have lunch, or you get to your

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Speaker 2: office at nine o'clock if you're on the West coast

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Speaker 2: or whatever.

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Speaker 1: You get your home office, whatever people do nowadays, home office,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna have. The ratings are gonna be through the

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Speaker 1: roof this year.

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Speaker 4: The roof.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's gonna be a little bit of a

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Speaker 3: like Dan Harris miss that's gonna happen.

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Speaker 4: But hopefully we can hopefully.

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Speaker 1: Wait for the person on the chat there in the commons, say,

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Speaker 1: who's this guy? Where's Dan Harris?

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Speaker 4: Dan Harris gained a lot of weight.

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Speaker 1: Dan Harris looks different. I don't understand what, but anyway,

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Speaker 1: they will love fighting.

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Speaker 4: He's a superhero now, so.

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Speaker 1: Everybody loves you already. He's fighting. He is the Bruce

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Speaker 1: Wayne to the Gotham city somewhere.

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Speaker 3: And.

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Speaker 4: Dan Harris is walking around.

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Speaker 1: I'm vengeance, Like, all.

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Speaker 4: Right, Dan, I thought you were Dan Harris like this,

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Speaker 4: I'm vengeance.

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it's more.

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Speaker 3: Like, Oh, he'll make fun of his voice. I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: tell him I just did that impression.

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Speaker 2: You could tell me because he didn't make fun of

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Speaker 2: me on the live stream. That's what friends do. You

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Speaker 2: make fun of each other and then inevitably someone slaps somebody.

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Speaker 1: That'll do it for us. But the story of the

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Speaker 1: game goes on for the Welch, I'm Joey b We'll

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Speaker 1: see you next time. Kids,