Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season three, h two,
Speaker 1: Episode two of Daly's geist day production of iHeartRadio. This
Speaker 1: is a podcast where we take a deep dive into
Speaker 1: America's share consciousness. I'm a little sick. It's Wednesday, August thirtieth,
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. We did a placebo episode about how
Speaker 1: you know all the different ways that illness and cures
Speaker 1: can be a mind fuck, and then I immediately got sick,
Speaker 1: So now I don't know if I'm actually sick or
Speaker 1: what is happening with the fucking true nightmare. My name
Speaker 1: is Jack O'Brien aka Potatoes O'Brien, and I'm thrilled to
Speaker 1: be joined in my guest co host seat, my very
Speaker 1: talented writer, stand up comedian. Her advice on sex and
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Speaker 1: Great ninety Day Fiance podcast four twenty Day Fiance with
Speaker 1: some guy named Miles.
Speaker 2: I guess, yeah, how do you pronounce that?
Speaker 3: Myriean Obrien?
Speaker 1: Yeah, my Miles is great. Welcome to the show, The hilarious,
Speaker 1: the talented Sophia Alexandra.
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. Thank you so much, and I have
Speaker 2: a little ditty. I don't want no subs sub and
Speaker 2: four miles won't get no love for me sitting in
Speaker 2: his podcast chair with my bright bank hair, trying to
Speaker 2: host e Dzo. I thank you so much.
Speaker 1: I love it. But I think you are doing that
Speaker 1: and you're gonna nail it, so we do want some
Speaker 1: subs you, in particular, welcome, Welcome. Your bright pink hair
Speaker 1: is amazing. It's looking good.
Speaker 2: So is your newly found deep voice. Holdly, I know
Speaker 2: you're talking about this shit.
Speaker 1: What's up, guys? Sounds like I should be on the
Speaker 1: Rogan networkers.
Speaker 2: I was just gonna say that I was the mothership
Speaker 2: this fucking weekend. That's that's the fucking energy this base
Speaker 2: is giving me. It's it's it's commanding respect. That's right,
Speaker 2: despite you know, whatever knowledge you may or may not have. Yeah,
Speaker 2: see now, girl works and the spelling automatically changed from
Speaker 2: g I r L to g u r L as
Speaker 2: soon as your voice.
Speaker 1: God, that's right, girl, Thank you. I hate it. I
Speaker 1: hate it well. Sophia Weird throwed to be joining our
Speaker 1: third seat by a very funny comedy writer improviser co
Speaker 1: hosts the podcast Born to Love with Ellie Kemper on
Speaker 1: our sister network with Will Ferrell. Big Oney players, please
Speaker 1: welcome the brilliant, the hilarious Scott that girl. Hello. Hello.
Speaker 3: I feel like I need to I need to take
Speaker 3: some deep voice pills now to keep.
Speaker 1: It down here, man down here, bro to do it
Speaker 1: all right?
Speaker 3: Bro?
Speaker 1: What's good?
Speaker 2: How are you down here?
Speaker 1: Scott? Meet me down in the basement. Brother, oh, my
Speaker 1: brother in Christ. Welcome, Welcome to the Rogan. This is
Speaker 1: actually a show where we just like recap Rogan and
Speaker 1: talk about like all the shit that we learned.
Speaker 3: I'm excited to hear about some truth.
Speaker 1: That's what I wanted.
Speaker 3: That's right, really finally, Yeah, what Scott? You are in
Speaker 3: Los Angeles as well? I am in Los Angeles. Just
Speaker 3: made it through a tropical storm and an earthquake, neither
Speaker 3: of which I really noticed, to tell.
Speaker 1: You this, notice at all. Didn't notice the earthquake.
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm not God, but yeah, but I
Speaker 2: feel like LA is not going to get the right
Speaker 2: like lesson from all of this, because like it was
Speaker 2: a horrible thing that just like so happened to bypass us.
Speaker 2: So I think the lesson was like, oh, yeah, we
Speaker 2: shouldn't prep next time, and I mean.
Speaker 3: That's definitely the lesson from it.
Speaker 1: So we're good here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like, why would I even think about
Speaker 2: a generator? Who's to charge?
Speaker 1: What? Fuck all these once in a millennium weather events.
Speaker 1: Let's just we're good.
Speaker 3: We're good for another hundred years now, we don't have
Speaker 3: to work.
Speaker 2: We're all set.
Speaker 1: I thought you were gonna say, cancel gay marriage is
Speaker 1: the is the lesson because I've been listening to Rogan,
Speaker 1: So that's that's where my brain went.
Speaker 2: That's an og Diddy. I think Pat Robertson wrote that one.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it is a classic. Well all right, so
Speaker 1: we're all in Los Angeles, just separate places in Los Angeles,
Speaker 1: but it's great to have you all here, Scott. We're
Speaker 1: gonna get to know you a little bit better in
Speaker 1: a moment. First, we're gonna tell the people a couple
Speaker 1: of things we're talking about later on. Possibly we might
Speaker 1: be talking about the dependency ratio. I don't know, I wrote,
Speaker 1: I'm I wrote a bunch of shit and haven't like
Speaker 1: reread what I wrote, so I don't know. Maybe maybe
Speaker 1: it will be boring. Well, we'll try it out. But
Speaker 1: there's a front page article in the New York Times
Speaker 1: about the dependency ratio how it is affecting China's of me.
Speaker 2: Right now, Hey, Jack, I thought it was pretty interesting.
Speaker 1: Hey all right, you did. I really appreciate that.
Speaker 2: Thanks.
Speaker 1: We're also going to talk about the Whopper lawsuit. Now
Speaker 1: this is more in our wheelhouse. Yes, like this is
Speaker 1: I feel like this is suing parents over lying to
Speaker 1: you about the tooth fairy level ship. Like this is
Speaker 1: such a basic lie that I feel like we had
Speaker 1: all just kind of accepted when we were very young,
Speaker 1: and you know, naive, we were just like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: of course they're gonna lie about that, but disagree side
Speaker 1: multiple No, I'm not like I'm here for it. It's
Speaker 1: just furious. I love it. I love how much they
Speaker 1: like just that somebody had that thought. They were like,
Speaker 1: fuck it. This is the time to sue Burger King
Speaker 1: for taking a picture of the Whopper. That doesn't that
Speaker 1: looks better than it actually is.
Speaker 2: My time is shine. Finally, I've been seething since I
Speaker 2: first moved to America in nineteen ninety four.
Speaker 1: You moved here for the Whopper? I did.
Speaker 2: I was like the American Dream is fucking bullshit.
Speaker 3: Uh that's the only that's the only example of how
Speaker 3: that's true. Though everything else about the American Dream just
Speaker 3: it checks out.
Speaker 1: But the one thing it.
Speaker 2: Was dead on, but the whopper thing I will not
Speaker 2: stand for.
Speaker 1: We got this one thing to correct and then we're
Speaker 1: going to be bat in one.
Speaker 2: Thousand, pretty pretty golden.
Speaker 1: After that, Yeah, we might talk about the Great British
Speaker 1: Museum theft scandal. I think we are going to talk
Speaker 1: about it. Yeah, that's a fucking story. What a story.
Speaker 1: Shout out to jam our writer who put that one
Speaker 1: together for us. But before we get to any of
Speaker 1: that bullshit, Scott, we do like to ask our guests,
Speaker 1: what is something from your search history that's revealing about
Speaker 1: who you are.
Speaker 3: The very last search that I did just last night
Speaker 3: was quote the Winter Palace Wikipedia the Tsar's ancient Palace.
Speaker 3: It is the setting of a show on Hulu called
Speaker 3: The Greats, which is why I was googling it, and
Speaker 3: I went in a deep dive on Russian history, which
Speaker 3: is always hilarious just like the show. I'm amused by
Speaker 3: the buffoonery of our friends from Russia.
Speaker 1: I don't know the story that, well, what was what
Speaker 1: was going down in the Winter Palace? Is that where what.
Speaker 2: Wasn't going down in the walace?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: Jack? Am I right? Scott chest bump.
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, well there is one. There wasn't anything especially
Speaker 3: great about the Winter Palace Wikipedia article other than the
Speaker 3: fact that apparently two I think it was two hundred
Speaker 3: thousand people died building. It seems like which seems like it's.
Speaker 1: Always like a ten that seems like a whole city.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but did you see it? Pretty fucking
Speaker 2: worth it, you know what I'm saying. It looks pretty good.
Speaker 2: I remember now more in it, and they maybe could
Speaker 2: get more of those little onion domes everyone seems to love.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, now the onion domes. Those are classic. That's
Speaker 3: classic Moscow. This is Saint Petersburg. Baby, I know I've
Speaker 3: never been. I've never been to Russia. I studied Russian
Speaker 3: in college and sucked at it and then stopped.
Speaker 1: But ever still language, you study Russian language? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Wow, the accent on that is not great here.
Speaker 3: I was expecting you to be like it was fantastic.
Speaker 3: I gotta I gotta tread carefully. Sophia, are you from Russia?
Speaker 2: I'm from Ukraine, but I'm fluent in Russian. Yeah, that's
Speaker 2: my first language.
Speaker 3: Do you know my favorite word in Russian is no
Speaker 3: what kaladilnik. It means refrigerator. At least that's what I remember.
Speaker 1: Pretty cool, that's a good word.
Speaker 3: So I'm listening to an audible, a two volume biography
Speaker 3: of Joseph Stalin. Oh shit, not a very nice gentleman,
Speaker 3: Joseph Stalin.
Speaker 1: Wait, really, you're like.
Speaker 2: My fucking grandpa was like, those are exactly the fucking
Speaker 2: things that would absorb him for hours?
Speaker 3: Yes, it's it's it's absorbable. It's absorbed me for eighty hours. Now,
Speaker 3: can check it out. Yeah, and there's one left left
Speaker 3: to come. It ends on a cliffhanger. Guys, Hitler is
Speaker 3: about to invade the Soviet Union, so I can't wait for.
Speaker 2: It's gonna work out.
Speaker 3: Well, I think they're going to beat I think there's
Speaker 3: gonna be a lot of unhappiness for decades to come.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I think that that that particular invasion things
Speaker 3: work out.
Speaker 2: I think Hitler, that guy is just like a flash
Speaker 2: in the pan. Like not to ruin it for you,
Speaker 2: it's just it's not good.
Speaker 1: I mean, it kind of was, but you have like
Speaker 1: a brief rise. By the way, I feel like you
Speaker 1: shouting out Russia's word for refrigerator. I feel like the
Speaker 1: English language where like the English language really went off
Speaker 1: on the word refrigerator. That's pretty good like that. I
Speaker 1: feel like maybe maybe there was like a Cold War
Speaker 1: competitiveness that was happening there. But refrigerator is yeah, I
Speaker 1: kind of like it.
Speaker 3: That's a cool word.
Speaker 1: Yeah. It sounds like a brand name or something like.
Speaker 1: It sounds like it was workshopped, right, It.
Speaker 2: Sounds like it has a motor.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Do you think just sounds like it makes cold?
Speaker 3: Well that's what it means, right, it doesn't mean cold
Speaker 3: or something, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: But I just mean, I feel like refrigerator doesn't make
Speaker 2: you think of cold. It makes you think of a motor.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but keeping it cold frigid, throwing frigid in there,
Speaker 1: which is a good evocative way to word for cold.
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I think they really I think
Speaker 1: they saw what Russia was doing and was like, we
Speaker 1: gotta we gotta do better than ice chest I think
Speaker 1: was what they called it.
Speaker 3: Ice automatic ice chest.
Speaker 2: Ice chest has like a chalice vibe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah it does.
Speaker 2: You know, like I'm gonna sit on my ice chest
Speaker 2: with my jealous of mead. My favorite Russian word borgia.
Speaker 2: It is how you say ladybug and it means God's
Speaker 2: little cow and I'm obsessed with.
Speaker 3: It, which my favorite.
Speaker 2: Isn't that the cutest thing you've ever heard? Are you
Speaker 2: just are you just dying right now? Because I'm dying
Speaker 2: every time I think about it.
Speaker 1: God, Yeah, look at that little guy. So fucking cute
Speaker 1: and also not gendered the way that I guess it is.
Speaker 1: It is because cows are girlies. Yeah, never mind, I'm
Speaker 1: against it. God's Little Cow is so cute.
Speaker 2: I always thought that, like if I was gonna like
Speaker 2: be somebody that opened like a i don't know, like
Speaker 2: a kindergarten or something, that's what I would call it.
Speaker 1: God's Little Cow.
Speaker 2: I'd be like, that is the cutest. All of the
Speaker 2: kids are gonna go here.
Speaker 1: That's amazing, like.
Speaker 3: A preschool, a ladybug ladybug preschool, but there's probably many
Speaker 3: of them, so it really works. I think it's a
Speaker 3: great name.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Scott, Scott.
Speaker 1: What is something you think is overrated. Massages, massages.
Speaker 3: I do not like giving massages, and I do not
Speaker 3: like receiving massages, and they make me feel intensely uncomfortable,
Speaker 3: and the fact that so many people love them so
Speaker 3: much is a total mystery to me.
Speaker 2: Have you ever had a good one?
Speaker 3: I think I've had some good ones. Yeah, like on
Speaker 3: my honeymoon, an expensive couples massage, and like Greece or
Speaker 3: whatever that we paid lots and lots of money for,
Speaker 3: I found it uncomfortable and akin to torture the entire time.
Speaker 2: Well, money's not really how you judge it, because anyone
Speaker 2: can just be like, oh, you're in a hotel, fucking
Speaker 2: pay me a thousand dollars to touch you. That didn't
Speaker 2: come out right. But I just kind of want to know.
Speaker 2: Do you get like the light kind? Do you get
Speaker 2: the deep kind? And do you think when they touch
Speaker 2: you it's like too much pressure or too little or
Speaker 2: do you just not like people touching you?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's all of the above. I've tried more
Speaker 3: than once. I've had the light massages. I've had those
Speaker 3: deep tissue massages that leave you feeling ill for days,
Speaker 3: Like anytime they warn you ahead of time, like, oh, hey,
Speaker 3: this is this is gonna You're gonna just feel sick
Speaker 3: and stuffed up for the next forty eight hours because
Speaker 3: we're gonna rub so many toxins out of your flesh
Speaker 3: and send it forcing through your your system.
Speaker 1: Out of your nose, and drink a lot of water.
Speaker 1: So oh, they do tell you that I'm no one.
Speaker 2: Ever does myself included, And then you're like, oh, why
Speaker 2: do I feel that nice? I'm like, well, bitch, they
Speaker 2: told you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like to go from massage directly to just
Speaker 1: drinking a giant a train to of a cold brew.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, you're the healthiest.
Speaker 1: That's that voice came around, And that's why I sound
Speaker 1: like this, Scott.
Speaker 2: I think it's bold of you to admit that you
Speaker 2: hate massages, because I think a ton of people do,
Speaker 2: but they won't say anything because they're like, people think
Speaker 2: I'm insane. It's like when someone says they don't like
Speaker 2: welcome o.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm. Yeah, well, I mean it's a little more
Speaker 3: selfish to say you hate giving massages. I think that's
Speaker 3: probably more.
Speaker 1: You know that you're a monster.
Speaker 2: I was going to come back to this podcast for.
Speaker 3: That what's what's like? What is it a massage giving?
Speaker 3: What is what is like? When is it okay to
Speaker 3: be annoyed? Like how many minutes?
Speaker 2: Because you can feel it. You can feel when the
Speaker 2: person giving it is annoyed. So it's always done bad,
Speaker 2: even that three minutes that they give and I'm like,
Speaker 2: you know what, take your fucking lobster ass hands out
Speaker 2: of here. I don't this pity massage.
Speaker 1: They're just giving like mitten style massages figures together and then.
Speaker 2: Yeah, fucking zoidberging my fucking neck. I don't want that, Scott.
Speaker 2: Is that your style to do a bad job? So
Speaker 2: you're just out of there.
Speaker 3: I mean, I try my best, but I promise it's bad.
Speaker 3: That's I mean, no matter what I'll do, I'll give
Speaker 3: it my absolute awe and will still disappoint and then
Speaker 3: the annoyance will will come through. So I mean, maybe
Speaker 3: that's at the heart of why I don't like them,
Speaker 3: because I've never really had a good experience, either as
Speaker 3: a giver or a receiver. But no, it's just not
Speaker 3: it's just not my thing. Are you an expert massage giver?
Speaker 2: Would you say, yeah, I'm awesome, I have the hands
Speaker 2: of a construction worker, but the gentleness of an angel of.
Speaker 1: One of God's little cows exactly. Yeah, yeah, I like
Speaker 1: giving and receiving. I was complimented in the past year
Speaker 1: that I receive massage well from somebody, and I took that.
Speaker 1: I was like, I didn't know I needed to hear
Speaker 1: that about myself, but it really.
Speaker 3: Could possibly mean other than making noises.
Speaker 2: Receptive noises, being like that is the spot. How did
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: The person?
Speaker 3: Growner Jack, Yeah, it's an older one nicest way to say,
Speaker 3: you're a vocal cross.
Speaker 1: Really sweet. She gives uh, my wife and I massages
Speaker 1: and she I think she just likes us and so
Speaker 1: she like comes up with ways to compliment us. But
Speaker 1: like that, You're right, it doesn't make sense to like
Speaker 1: have a for that to be a skill that somebody has.
Speaker 1: But I totally took it to heart. I was like, yes,
Speaker 1: did she to your wife? Yeah, she loves my way.
Speaker 1: I mean she's given my wife every single compliment the world.
Speaker 2: Maybe she's running out and that's why she's like this massage.
Speaker 1: Your husband, I don't know, did a good job taking
Speaker 1: a massage from me?
Speaker 2: She's taking a massage sounds like so Dommy like yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Of hers like yeah you take that massage? Good?
Speaker 1: You take that, don't you?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Exactly, Scott with something you think is underrated the beach.
Speaker 1: The beach. Okay, we get a lot of on this show.
Speaker 1: We get a lot of the beaches overrated. So this
Speaker 1: is this is an important moment for this show to
Speaker 1: have somebody on to speak on behalf of the beach. Scott,
Speaker 1: the floor is yours.
Speaker 2: There beach haters out here. There's Ken Who's just like,
Speaker 2: my job is beach and people are beach haters. I
Speaker 2: fucking cannot Scott tell us more.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, we live, We were lucky enough to
Speaker 3: live in Los Angeles with with some of the most
Speaker 3: beautiful beaches in the world. And and here's the dirty secret,
Speaker 3: I never go I live. I lived twelve minutes from
Speaker 3: the Santa Monica like beaches, like the like the heart
Speaker 3: of Beachtown, LA, and have not been all summer long.
Speaker 3: And are you.
Speaker 2: Really a beach lover? Then this, well, this is exactly
Speaker 2: what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I am underrating the beach. And then when I go
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh shit, guys, guess what the beach is amazing.
Speaker 3: It's seventy five. It's seventy five and sunny. There's the
Speaker 3: the ocean is is one of the most majestic creations
Speaker 3: in all of nature. You stand in waters.
Speaker 1: Stand next to the biggest thing on planet Earth in
Speaker 1: Los Angeles, and you're just looking out at the biggest
Speaker 1: thing on Earth.
Speaker 3: That's exactly right, it's it, and it exerts its force
Speaker 3: on you. You go inside it, it rolls over you,
Speaker 3: You're you're You're overwhelmed and delighted by the sound right
Speaker 3: that that that white noise of.
Speaker 1: The wild ass sounds on the on like southern California beaches.
Speaker 2: Sorry, when we edit this episode, can we just take
Speaker 2: out the part by itself and make it go viral
Speaker 2: because it will absolutely of Scott giving this impassioned, yelling,
Speaker 2: delightful speech about how much he loves the beach. It's
Speaker 2: truly one of God's most delightful things. Since, like the
Speaker 2: Double Rainbow guy, we need this out in the world.
Speaker 3: Yes, well, since here, guys, I mean, I'm a fool.
Speaker 3: Every single time I have the same reaction and I
Speaker 3: never follow through. I turn to my wife and I
Speaker 3: say we should do this All the time, I say
Speaker 3: to myself you know what, I'm gonna come this week.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get in my car while my kids are
Speaker 3: at school. I'm gonna bring my laptop, I'm gonna bring
Speaker 3: a chair. I'm gonna sit and i'm gonna I'm gonna
Speaker 3: do whatever work needs to be done, email, writing, whatever,
Speaker 3: and I'm gonna do it in Paradise. And I've lived
Speaker 3: here for eight years now. I've never once followed through
Speaker 3: and done that, but I should. Why are we not
Speaker 3: all doing that? I don't know. It's a mystery.
Speaker 1: At the beach, there are people and.
Speaker 3: Their beach towels and their beach chairs not far from
Speaker 3: where we were sitting, who have paid god knows how
Speaker 3: much money in airfare and hotels to have this experience
Speaker 3: that is at our fingertips, and I don't take advantage
Speaker 3: of it. So that's why I think that it's underrated.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I totally. When I moved, when I was like
Speaker 1: moving out to Los Angeles, I was like, I am
Speaker 1: going to be surfing to work every morning. That's how
Speaker 1: I'm going. That is going to be my primary mode
Speaker 1: of conveyance is surfing around. And then when I'm not surfing,
Speaker 1: I will be in line skating on the boardwalk at
Speaker 1: the Venishalk. Yeah, Venish. I used to live Russian.
Speaker 2: Literally like half a block from the beach in Venice,
Speaker 2: like on one of those little walk streets. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: it was like the best fucking experience of my life
Speaker 2: because that is the only time I've not taken the
Speaker 2: beach for granted. You know, you literally walk out barefoot
Speaker 2: out of your house in a towel with your neighbors.
Speaker 2: You just walk down to the sand. Was like the
Speaker 2: shit you bring from your house and then you're just
Speaker 2: like there.
Speaker 1: We lived in the last street before Venice, so we
Speaker 1: were kind of ven Ish. We weren't quite in Venice,
Speaker 1: but we were Venish. Yeah, sorry, okay, go ahead, No.
Speaker 2: That's all I was just gonna say, that's the only
Speaker 2: time I've not disrespected the beach. Now I'm like fifteen
Speaker 2: minutes away, and like I definitely do not go nearly
Speaker 2: as often as I should.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm forty five minutes away, but I yeah,
Speaker 1: I flew all the way across the country to go
Speaker 1: swim in the Atlantic Ocean, like the you know, my
Speaker 1: my parents live by the Atlantic Ocean. Went in every morning.
Speaker 1: Was like, this is the best and then came back.
Speaker 1: Haven't even thought about going to the beach since I've
Speaker 1: been back. So the Pacific is a little cold. I
Speaker 1: will say that it's being inside the Pacific and having
Speaker 1: it roll you around in Los Angeles is just a
Speaker 1: little bit chilly. But and I'm baby, So don't let
Speaker 1: the voice, don't let the voice fool you. I am baby,
Speaker 1: I am deep voice, Baby, I'm deep voice. Baby. Is that.
Speaker 2: I'm with you. I need to like just be in
Speaker 2: the sun for so long that it's unbearable, and then
Speaker 2: I'll go in the water and then I'm cool. And
Speaker 2: then I'm like, Okay, Well I can't get out because
Speaker 2: if I get out, then getting back in is gonna
Speaker 2: be torture again. And so I just stay in the
Speaker 2: water for as long as I can. I like it
Speaker 2: when the waves hit me, that's real nice. But you
Speaker 2: can't swim or do shit out here, because, like you know,
Speaker 2: I grew up on the and Odessa on the Black Sea.
Speaker 2: Swimming in the sea, you can actually swim, it's like
Speaker 2: lovely and so warm.
Speaker 1: Wait was the difference between their sea and the Pacific Ocean.
Speaker 1: It's just more calm or more warmer, warmer, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: like to I like to go to the Atlantic Ocean
Speaker 1: and like body surf, but I feel like you try
Speaker 1: and body surf in the Pacific and you're gonna you're
Speaker 1: gonna get put in the spin cycle? Is that what
Speaker 1: surfers call it?
Speaker 2: Anyways, I don't know the terms, but that sounds right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll be bad and all the surfers will make
Speaker 1: fun of me. That'll be the number one hand of there.
Speaker 1: They won't let me into their bank robbing gang.
Speaker 2: Victor just said the current, put in the spin cycle.
Speaker 1: The current, I.
Speaker 2: Believe, Thank you so much.
Speaker 1: The cur there's a slang term, victor for like when
Speaker 1: you get like, you know, flipped upside down by a wave,
Speaker 1: and I believe I've heard it referred to as the
Speaker 1: spin cycle. But I have heard of the current as well.
Speaker 1: You watch out for that for sure. All right, let's
Speaker 1: take a let's take a quick break, and we'll come
Speaker 1: back and talk about some news. We'll be right back.
Speaker 1: And we're back, and there's a lot of news. We're
Speaker 1: mainly a US news zeitgeist, but I'm seeing a lot
Speaker 1: of news of late that China's economy is stalling, and
Speaker 1: the New York Times had a piece today blaming it
Speaker 1: on demographics, which is something that we've talked about on
Speaker 1: this before. But anytime I get a chance to talk
Speaker 1: about the dependency ratio, I will do it because I
Speaker 1: do think it's like one of my if this show
Speaker 1: had a like overrated, I feel like that that would
Speaker 1: be one of the things that we underrate. I guess
Speaker 1: about explaining why things are the way they are in
Speaker 1: the world, is this thing called the dependency ratio. It's
Speaker 1: not like controversial. Most people are like, yeah, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: that's true, that's why things work that way. But like
Speaker 1: it immediately gets lost because it takes all of the
Speaker 1: personality and like personal responsibility out of like America having
Speaker 1: a good economy and just like breaks it down into
Speaker 1: a story of like demographics, and everyone's like, no, we're
Speaker 1: we have money because we're the best. We're good people
Speaker 1: and we work hard. But basically, the idea of the
Speaker 1: dependency ratio is that you put all the people in
Speaker 1: your country that are working age like that are you
Speaker 1: able to work on one side of a scale, all
Speaker 1: the people who are either too young or too old
Speaker 1: to work on the other side of the scale, and
Speaker 1: when the people who are of working age outweigh the
Speaker 1: people who are not who can't work by a lot,
Speaker 1: you have a really strong economy.
Speaker 2: Basically, it breaks down into the supported and the supporters exactly.
Speaker 2: And if you have too many people those people who
Speaker 2: are supported side, and not enough people who are the supporters,
Speaker 2: then the economy does not do well and things don't
Speaker 2: recover well. So I actually want to relate this a
Speaker 2: little bit too. As you know, I'm an unofficial ambassador
Speaker 2: to Paris, but you know the protests. I was there
Speaker 2: when when they started, and it's about, you know, raising
Speaker 2: the retirement age, and it's precisely because of the dependency ratio.
Speaker 2: There's not enough people working to take care of the
Speaker 2: people that are trying to retire. So they're like, hey,
Speaker 2: can we push the age back two years to make
Speaker 2: up for the the gap dependency. So yeah, that's all.
Speaker 2: Just wanted to bring in just a little correspondent situation.
Speaker 1: Oh that was good. That's a great example. It's better
Speaker 1: than it's good in this news podcast. To have an
Speaker 1: example from the news, I didn't bother to write, and
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, here's a New York Times article.
Speaker 1: They reminded me of a thing I know Anyways, that
Speaker 1: and the article is interesting because it's like, first, let
Speaker 1: me like summarize what's going on with the economy based
Speaker 1: on all the writing, and the summary is all like
Speaker 1: the real estate market has turned down, like they like
Speaker 1: mentioned this like poetic turn a phrase of like the
Speaker 1: Chinese are calling the sense of national stasis nawan, which
Speaker 1: translated to life twisting inward without real progress.
Speaker 2: And you know, I'm just the state of the world
Speaker 2: right now. And it kind of like pierced me deeply
Speaker 2: in my heart when I read that, I was like,
Speaker 2: Jesus fucking Christ, damn you mailed how everybody and everything
Speaker 2: in the world currently is Holy fuck.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just life twisting inward like a snailshell and no
Speaker 1: forward momentum whatsoever. But yeah, for all of that and
Speaker 1: all the explanations they give that, they ultimately come back
Speaker 1: to this guy who's been looking at the demography, like
Speaker 1: the demographics of China, and it's like, hey, this is
Speaker 1: gonna be bad like fairly soon. And the the thing
Speaker 1: that has like driven China's really powerful economy for the
Speaker 1: past you know, handful of decades is the same thing
Speaker 1: that's going to make them go off. This like demographic
Speaker 1: cliff because basically one policy, the one child policy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so they had a one child policy, and as when
Speaker 1: they had that, they had all these people who were
Speaker 1: going through the working age, you know, a ton of
Speaker 1: people that they had. They made the one child policy
Speaker 1: because their population was going up so fast, so they
Speaker 1: had like a massive baby boom essentially, and as that
Speaker 1: massive baby boom was going through the like working age,
Speaker 1: they were in great shape. And not only that, but
Speaker 1: they also had a small amount of dependence because they
Speaker 1: had instituted this one child policy and just like.
Speaker 2: The commitment to the workforce was like artificially strengthened because
Speaker 2: you have only one kid and it's easier to just
Speaker 2: go back to work.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I think there's a lot of reasons. It
Speaker 1: like made a lot of sense. But now they're hitting
Speaker 1: the point where that big, like baby boom that made
Speaker 1: them put the one child policy into place in the
Speaker 1: first place is going to start retiring and the only
Speaker 1: people left to work are going to be the one
Speaker 1: child policy babies, like the like government mandated only children.
Speaker 1: And they're like they they kind of got a sense
Speaker 1: that this was going to happen and this was bad,
Speaker 1: and so they've like tried to get people to start
Speaker 1: fucking again. But it's just it hasn't worked like that.
Speaker 1: They are still like their procreation number or whatever is
Speaker 1: like one point something. It's so the population is like shrinking.
Speaker 1: So I don't know this just it feels like such
Speaker 1: a massive idea that is like such a clear you know,
Speaker 1: it explains so much economic success and like so much
Speaker 1: of like what happened in the twentieth century and like
Speaker 1: beginning of the twenty first century. But the US like
Speaker 1: never really like never sticks in the news. And I
Speaker 1: really think it's just that the baby boomers are so
Speaker 1: selfish that they like want this takes away some of
Speaker 1: their like personal agency for having like created America's economic
Speaker 1: success because it's just like, no, you just happen to
Speaker 1: be like part of this weird like demographic blip of
Speaker 1: like the baby boom and so like. But if you
Speaker 1: look at a baby.
Speaker 2: Boomers make it part of their identity right that they are,
Speaker 2: you know, the how they are what made America like work, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's just like no, there's just like too
Speaker 1: many of you. Like it's bad ultimately, but it was
Speaker 1: good for these thirty years.
Speaker 2: And also it's interesting because that whole sense of like
Speaker 2: inward like we make shit happen, we are the right
Speaker 2: and the important ones has translated into them being like, well,
Speaker 2: like fuck you, we want our social security and we
Speaker 2: want all of this stuff without ever thinking about their
Speaker 2: kids or like the world they're leaving behind. I think
Speaker 2: like that self centeredness, I guess is what I was
Speaker 2: gonna say. I think, yeah, is like across the board.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like getting back to China just for a second.
Speaker 3: I agree that that we're in. It's like a ticking
Speaker 3: time bomb, the whole baby boom generation, like we've been
Speaker 3: talking about. It's like, oh no, as they age, we're fucked.
Speaker 3: But like you were talking about how the one child
Speaker 3: policy screwed over China, I'm not sure if it was
Speaker 3: in that New York Times article, Jack, but another big
Speaker 3: demographic problem with that is that when you're only allowed
Speaker 3: to have one child, and there is a sort of
Speaker 3: cultural sexism that's so deeply ingrained, the disproportionate amount of
Speaker 3: the of the single children, the only children we were boys.
Speaker 3: So now there's literally decades worth of of adult male
Speaker 3: Chinese men and there aren't like there's a lack of
Speaker 3: partners for them, there's jizz.
Speaker 2: Just dying to get.
Speaker 3: And I think the last time the article that I
Speaker 3: read about this, this is not from this morning, but
Speaker 3: this is more recently, not not more recently than this morning,
Speaker 3: but in the recent past, is that the only similar
Speaker 3: sort of demographic imbalance in history is the wild West,
Speaker 3: when and cowboys and ship went out west and there
Speaker 3: was just like, you know, way more, way more men,
Speaker 3: and like, I don't know if you guys are familiar
Speaker 3: with wild Web stories, but there's a lot of fighting, right,
Speaker 3: There's a lot a lot of violence.
Speaker 2: There's also a lot of raping. Yeah, because there's not
Speaker 2: enough women to go around. You're not going to be like, oh, milady,
Speaker 2: would you like the choice of all of the things.
Speaker 2: It's going to be like mine.
Speaker 1: But think about all the great inventions that we got
Speaker 1: from the wild West, like the saloon with a spittoon
Speaker 1: in every corner, Like just yeah.
Speaker 2: Those doors that swing open when.
Speaker 3: You say the doors that you can see the bottoms
Speaker 3: and the tops like that, they're just the midway doors.
Speaker 1: Those are the least the least effective doors ever invented.
Speaker 3: Right. They don't they don't trap heater cold, they don't
Speaker 3: block anyone sight.
Speaker 2: They don't lock.
Speaker 3: Actually, even if they did lock, you could crawl right under.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you could any of humanity that you're getting with
Speaker 1: a wild West type society. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And also you know, like we don't really know the
Speaker 2: real numbers of any of this because China fundamentally fundamentally
Speaker 2: lies about everything. And like when I was there, the
Speaker 2: guy that was like our guide, you know, was telling us,
Speaker 2: like we were driving by like all of these high
Speaker 2: rises that are just fucking emptiest empty yeah, and we
Speaker 2: were like, what is this And he's like, oh, well,
Speaker 2: like to artificially inflate stuff and to have job growth
Speaker 2: and creation or whatever, they're like having people build these
Speaker 2: giant high rises, but like no one can actually afford
Speaker 2: to live in them, so they just stand there empty.
Speaker 2: But like they just keep building new ones. And he says,
Speaker 2: like American companies come through and they like film like
Speaker 2: post apocalyptic stuff there.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Hell is just the most insane fucking combination of random
Speaker 2: ass things where you're like what the fuck? Yeah, And
Speaker 2: then I was asking him about like car accident rates
Speaker 2: because I was like, damn, like I can't believe like
Speaker 2: all of this works because I'm watching people speed around
Speaker 2: and like you know, on motorbikes and balancing babies and
Speaker 2: wives and like baskets of things and like and no
Speaker 2: one gives a fuck about the rules, like but somehow
Speaker 2: it still works. I was like, but are there a
Speaker 2: lot of accidents? Like what are the accident rates? And
Speaker 2: he kind of laughed and he was like, well, nobody
Speaker 2: really knows. He's like, we wouldn't know what they are,
Speaker 2: cause like to look good, you would make them be
Speaker 2: a good amount. Like it's just how it works. He said,
Speaker 2: like one time there was an accident and like like
Speaker 2: a train accident and like a collision and hundreds of
Speaker 2: people died, but they just like buried the train with
Speaker 2: the people in it.
Speaker 1: Yeah what Yeah, So.
Speaker 2: Nobody wants to be like, yeah, something happened with these trains.
Speaker 2: They're just like what trains. So I'm just saying, like,
Speaker 2: we don't even know the stunt of this problem. It
Speaker 2: could be so much worse.
Speaker 1: Well that's what he say. He's saying that a lot
Speaker 1: of this shit is like turning bad earlier than anyone
Speaker 1: was expecting other than him. So he wrote a book
Speaker 1: called Big Country with an Empty Nest in two thousand
Speaker 1: and seven and it was immediately banned by the Chinese government,
Speaker 1: but people were like, this seems interesting, and he was
Speaker 1: predicting everything that's currently happening due to the one child policy.
Speaker 1: But by twenty thirteen, Chinese authorities were like, hey, you
Speaker 1: seem smart actually, and they had like started rethinking the
Speaker 1: one child policy.
Speaker 2: And now I've had one of my trademark changes.
Speaker 1: Of heart exactly. By the way, speaking of demographics and
Speaker 1: sex of like the breakdown of sex the like another
Speaker 1: thing that drove the American baby boom is that, like,
Speaker 1: so the baby boom started entering the workforce in force
Speaker 1: in like sixty six and reached the peak of everybody
Speaker 1: who was part of the baby boom was working age
Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty two, and everybody whose baby boom was
Speaker 1: in the workforce through two thousand and like six to
Speaker 1: two thousand and eleven, depending on when they were retiring.
Speaker 1: But that was also a time when like women were
Speaker 1: more and more able to be part of the workforce,
Speaker 1: and like, so you're letting like the smartest adults now
Speaker 1: like get to work instead of not getting to work,
Speaker 1: Like so I think I think that also was like
Speaker 1: a massive help when it came to the US.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it seems to me. It seems to me that
Speaker 3: like it definitely helps the economy when a all shitload
Speaker 3: extra people start working and and be half of the
Speaker 3: population is allowed to join in, Like yeah, you're untapped talent.
Speaker 3: You would expect a productivity boost from changes like those
Speaker 3: and and we got one.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. So but anyways, I mean the US is
Speaker 1: hitting you know, it's they started, like the Baby boom
Speaker 1: generation started aging out around like two thousand and six
Speaker 1: to twenty eleven. And you might recognize that as like
Speaker 1: a time where the economy started to stagnate a little bit.
Speaker 1: But the US didn't have this role like demographic.
Speaker 2: Stuff started happening with Britney Spears. I'm just saying, yes.
Speaker 1: I think, well, right, that's the thirds.
Speaker 3: The sliding doors moment if she hadn't had that conservatorship
Speaker 3: or whatever.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying causation on correlation.
Speaker 1: Guy, But the US doesn't have this like unnatural like
Speaker 1: demographic cliff that they're going over. So they're going to
Speaker 1: like just be getting slightly worse over over the next
Speaker 1: handful of decades.
Speaker 3: Right, It'll be more like Europe in Japan, right, because
Speaker 3: they preceded US in exactly this sort of dependency ratio
Speaker 3: because they have Europe and Japan had fewer kids historically
Speaker 3: than we have, and now we're catching up our declining
Speaker 3: birth rates and immigration. Because it's a problem immigration.
Speaker 2: That's what I was gonna say. The other thing is,
Speaker 2: like we have constantly an influx of new people because
Speaker 2: of immigration.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Immigration is the thing that saves America from it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and despite the fact that fucking every fucking conservative
Speaker 2: Republican person is so shitty about it, it's like without immigration,
Speaker 2: this place would truly die.
Speaker 1: Right, Well, they think they can just like magically make
Speaker 1: America like Baby Boom generation. Like they want to believe
Speaker 1: that it was just like through sheer tyranny of will
Speaker 1: and like American values that they had success and that
Speaker 1: they can just like magically make America great again by if,
Speaker 1: like just if everyone would just listen to them, and
Speaker 1: like their primary like policy objective is to like end immigration,
Speaker 1: which would be the exact opposite of like it's the
Speaker 1: one thing that's going to make America viable going forward,
Speaker 1: but they want to they want to end that ship.
Speaker 1: So anyways, turns out Donald Trump kind of an idiot.
Speaker 1: We've never said that, I'm sorry, racist and shortsighted to be.
Speaker 2: I didn't agree to commonist show that would say such.
Speaker 1: Crazy.
Speaker 2: I couldn't even finish that.
Speaker 1: All right, let's take another quick break and we'll come
Speaker 1: back and we'll talk Whopper, and we'll talk the Great
Speaker 1: British Museum theft. We'll be right back and we're back,
Speaker 1: And I mean this Whopper story, it's just a lawsuit
Speaker 1: that a judge has said can go forward. And the
Speaker 1: suit is basically just claiming that Burger Can commercials feature
Speaker 1: burgers that are approximately thirty five percent larger in size
Speaker 1: and contain more than double the meat.
Speaker 2: Okay, that is a huge difference. I know, Jack, you
Speaker 2: think that this is ridiculous. I'm sorry, what double the meat? No?
Speaker 1: How do you know the how do you know the
Speaker 1: buns just aren't bigger in there. I just don't understand,
Speaker 1: like from a legal perspective, from like a logical argument perspective,
Speaker 1: how this lawsuit would break down. Can't they just be like, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: we use smaller buns for the for the ads.
Speaker 2: No, because if they already measured the meat and they're
Speaker 2: telling you that the meat is half of what it
Speaker 2: should be that's a real problem for me. I'm sorry, right,
Speaker 2: you're no. And I also have to say, like it
Speaker 2: just contributes to like America's like problem with like lying
Speaker 2: about size, and it's like we don't really need to
Speaker 2: do that, you.
Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: It's like anyone are just bad lying, not just like
Speaker 2: penis size obviously, but like height and stuff.
Speaker 1: It's like all of it.
Speaker 2: I'm like, please stop man bumbling me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why you always want your dating profile picture
Speaker 1: to like have something for scale in it, right, And
Speaker 1: but that's what like, that's what I don't understand to
Speaker 1: get next to a ruler, stand next to a ruler,
Speaker 1: just like be standing under a basketball hoop or something like.
Speaker 1: And that this just like the pictures that they are.
Speaker 3: To be dunking.
Speaker 2: If you're not dunking in your photo, I don't know
Speaker 2: how tall you are. No, but no, I just care
Speaker 2: about the lying jack.
Speaker 1: Okay dating site and not being able to dunk.
Speaker 2: Embarrassing, embarrassing. You know, I taught myself how to dunk
Speaker 2: before I started dating. I'm not I had to. It's
Speaker 2: not gonna be out here in these streets dunk lists
Speaker 2: are you?
Speaker 1: Come on?
Speaker 2: But I'm serious. Okay, this is my final point, my
Speaker 2: only point about the whopper situation, which is why lie
Speaker 2: about your size, Like, I don't care if you are
Speaker 2: five seven or a tiny burger, just tell me what
Speaker 2: you are. White castle it white Castle out here proud
Speaker 2: being like these are tiny, shitty burgers, yeah, but are
Speaker 2: addictive as hell. Fuck do you want a million of them?
Speaker 2: And we're all like, yes, yes we do. Thank you
Speaker 2: for telling us they're small and terrible. We love that
Speaker 2: about it. So why is Wopper out here being like, oh,
Speaker 2: I have a big title, I'm a whopper, and you're
Speaker 2: just sneaking in with half the meat. Get out of here.
Speaker 2: I was really passionate about it.
Speaker 1: Those we're all taken a back.
Speaker 3: It's hard to it's hard to disagree. I mean, my
Speaker 3: take on this is maybe a little more boring, Like, Okay,
Speaker 3: I get it, truth and advertising. I'm not especially upset
Speaker 3: about it. I'm not especially surprised by. What I think
Speaker 3: is so ludicrous is that it takes like some allowed
Speaker 3: class action lawsuit to remedy this, Like why is there
Speaker 3: not just shouldn't there just shouldn't a government just like
Speaker 3: find them? Shouldn't it just be like, oh no, you lied,
Speaker 3: Like like, isn't there like a simple or more streamlined
Speaker 3: way to do this, Like when I'm a Burger department
Speaker 3: burger the false burgers are. I mean, I wouldn't be
Speaker 3: against it. I don't want to, you know. I guess
Speaker 3: the people argue by the size of government, but a
Speaker 3: burgers are seems like a pretty cool job. That could
Speaker 3: just be my my fascination with with Russian czars creeping in.
Speaker 3: But I mean, if you are going too fast on
Speaker 3: the highway, right, they just pull you over and they
Speaker 3: give you a fucking ticket, Like it isn't. It isn't
Speaker 3: an attorney who is coming up with a class of
Speaker 3: drivers who have been threatened and harmed by someone speeding
Speaker 3: too fast, Like.
Speaker 1: He's just self evidently wrong.
Speaker 3: The process is crazy. I don't That's what was confused
Speaker 3: me about this whole whopper thing. Although you know, God
Speaker 3: bless them, good good luck getting getting me a free
Speaker 3: life like coupon, because that's going to be the outcome
Speaker 3: of all of this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's that.
Speaker 2: And they're gonna maybe actually show the real ass sized
Speaker 2: burgers in the ads, which will be hilarious, I feel,
Speaker 2: because they are so small and not good. They're not
Speaker 2: going to make them be meteor that's ridiculous.
Speaker 1: They'll just change the bun size, like that's the solution
Speaker 1: of this whole thing, just because it doesn't matter for
Speaker 1: your pictures.
Speaker 2: It's about how much meat they say that they have.
Speaker 3: I mean, here's the thing, it's just the pictures, right.
Speaker 3: The fact of matter is, I think you may disagree
Speaker 3: with me on this, Sophia. Whoppers are great. It's not
Speaker 3: going to change anyone's buying behavior. It's just that the
Speaker 3: pictures they took made them look a little too big,
Speaker 3: So yeah, silly pictures and give me a coupon.
Speaker 1: And they're also shooting them from a low angle somehow, Burger,
Speaker 1: you're burger.
Speaker 2: Fishing me, and you're telling me to accept it, Scott,
Speaker 2: and I fucking refuse.
Speaker 3: I'm not telling you accepted at all. I'm on your side.
Speaker 3: I think that they should be punished, and I think
Speaker 3: the pictures should be more truthful.
Speaker 1: But and don't the pictures, like the pictures of the
Speaker 1: whopper are also like the main issue with them is
Speaker 1: that it is taken from the perspective of a person
Speaker 1: who is one and a half inches tall standing in
Speaker 1: front of a burger like that. No, they're so like you, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's standing in front of a little burger. And that's
Speaker 1: that's why where most of the illusion that's coming from.
Speaker 2: Now I know how this law suit is going to end.
Speaker 2: They're going to add a sentence in the tiniest white
Speaker 2: font on all of the ads that says, the portrayal
Speaker 2: of the burger in this ad is from the perspective
Speaker 2: of a one and a half.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I think that's what is tricking people.
Speaker 2: Because they do that, you know, on makeup ads. You
Speaker 2: guys probably don't know that, but like so before and
Speaker 2: this I think is important to people who use miscara.
Speaker 2: So everyone who uses Misscara is gonna be like, yes,
Speaker 2: I'm pretty mad about it too. So they used to
Speaker 2: do these ads where like it'd be people putting on
Speaker 2: Miss Scarra and they'd be like, look at my huge
Speaker 2: ass lashes and you'd be like, wow, cool, your MISCAA
Speaker 2: really works. Yeah, And then people were like, hey, you
Speaker 2: can't just like have people have fake lashes and then
Speaker 2: be like wow, this my scare really worried.
Speaker 1: But you can see that, like that's pretty fucked up.
Speaker 2: That's pretty fucked up. So now when they have those
Speaker 2: ads at the bottom, they have to say, like and
Speaker 2: they do these lashes, I've been enhanced with the fake
Speaker 2: lashes or whatever. So now you just know you're being
Speaker 2: lied to every time. Yeah, welcome to America.
Speaker 1: There you go. Well that's it. Just it feels very
Speaker 1: like quaint and adorable. This lawsuit, Like it's.
Speaker 2: Just like we needed a little break.
Speaker 1: One of the first things that I was like, I
Speaker 1: just accepted that I was being lied to about is
Speaker 1: advertising like looks better than the actual thing. Like I
Speaker 1: think it was the very first toy that I bought,
Speaker 1: and it was like in the commercial, like there's dry
Speaker 1: ice fog floating in as they like play with Skeletor's
Speaker 1: castle and like just amazing, like like actual moats dug
Speaker 1: into this like styrofoam like land that they've created around this,
Speaker 1: and you know, and then and then I get it
Speaker 1: home and it was still an awesome toy, but it
Speaker 1: wasn't as cool as what it looked like I'm on
Speaker 1: the TV.
Speaker 2: So the hot wheels wasn't like burn and rubber. No, yeah,
Speaker 2: it guitars fucking everywhere, like the micro machines.
Speaker 3: You still speak at normal speed?
Speaker 1: Yeah, unfortunately. Yeah, I do feel like dry ice really
Speaker 1: like if they're there, if they could create a safe
Speaker 1: version of dry ice for children to play with, really
Speaker 1: adds a lot of atmospheric It.
Speaker 2: Makes anything cool as hell, really does dry ice, mini
Speaker 2: fog machine, whatever, whatever they.
Speaker 1: Need to do. I sent a bath while you're taking
Speaker 1: a bath.
Speaker 2: That is the most metal thing I've ever heard of
Speaker 2: in my life.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I don't even have any idea what would happen? Would
Speaker 3: you die, would it explode? What would happen?
Speaker 2: It would just slowly melt.
Speaker 1: But while it smelts, I think it would like melt
Speaker 1: a little bit effect and there would be like some
Speaker 1: fog just sitting on top on the surface of your bathtub.
Speaker 1: Be cool, I think, I don't know, don't do it
Speaker 1: at home with a child, but I will.
Speaker 2: Do it on my own adult body that.
Speaker 1: You do whatever the fuck you want, actually don't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right? Should we talk about the British Museum like this? Yes,
Speaker 1: we've talked about like England's little problem with going around
Speaker 1: stealing the worth or stealing like the greatest cultural treasures
Speaker 1: of every other country in the world, and just you know,
Speaker 1: the British Museum is the most famous tourist attraction, grotesque
Speaker 1: monument to colonial wealth in a place that is kind
Speaker 1: of famous for that. But they are now the victim
Speaker 1: of theft and it's a major scandal. In the UK,
Speaker 1: two thousand treasures worth millions of pounds have seemingly been
Speaker 1: stolen from the British Museum's collection, and a leading expert
Speaker 1: in looted antiquities told the BBC the number of objects
Speaker 1: lost from the museum was mind blowing, which is not
Speaker 1: a phrase I expected an expert in looted antiquities to use.
Speaker 3: But I mean, the only expert in looted antiquities that
Speaker 3: I know is Indiana Jones.
Speaker 1: Indiana Jones, that's right, expert in looting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just want to say that, Like, first off,
Speaker 2: that's a problem with like so many museums essentially, like
Speaker 2: so much of the artist stolen. Yeah, and so much
Speaker 2: of it belongs to completely different If we started distributing
Speaker 2: it back, that would change literally the GDP of so
Speaker 2: many countries.
Speaker 1: Yeah, can't have that the museum GDP.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like no, just like so much tourism, people are
Speaker 2: coming to see all of this stuff and it's all
Speaker 2: like concentrated in places that colonial that our colonialist fucking
Speaker 2: like you know, yeah, war chests or whatever the fuck.
Speaker 2: Like they can't even display ever all of it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so the amount of greed is insane.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So the museum was actually just because we're
Speaker 1: going to get to that because people have been asking
Speaker 1: for it back and this is giving them, giving them
Speaker 1: like a new reason to be like, Hey, you guys
Speaker 1: like don't even know where the shit is that you
Speaker 1: stole from us, Like what the fuck?
Speaker 2: But you don't even know how to plunder, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: you don't, like you can't keep track of your booty.
Speaker 2: What the hell is wrong with you?
Speaker 1: The museum was warned about the fact that like they
Speaker 1: were being robbed blind back in twenty twenty one by
Speaker 1: an art dealer, and the museum blew him off and
Speaker 1: ignored the warnings. The reason that the person had a
Speaker 1: sense that they were being robbed is that their shit
Speaker 1: kept showing up on eBay.
Speaker 2: So this made me furious because the opening bids were
Speaker 2: like fifty dollars and no one fucking bid. And it's
Speaker 2: because no one on fucking eBay understands what this is.
Speaker 2: Like again, you don't even uh, this is so upsetting
Speaker 2: It's like all of this could have just been given
Speaker 2: to the fucking people it belongs to. No one even
Speaker 2: wants it on stupid eBay, you fucking assholes. God, I'm
Speaker 2: so mad.
Speaker 1: So the museum fired prominent curator Peter Higgs, seemingly believing
Speaker 1: him to be the thief, which he denies. But the
Speaker 1: essence though, Yeah, the evice is crazy. First of all,
Speaker 1: they like started showing all these things that were under
Speaker 1: his purview, like that that he was curating kept showing
Speaker 1: up on eBay. And the eBay seller's name was the
Speaker 1: same as Higgs's Twitter account.
Speaker 2: Man did not bother to make.
Speaker 3: Handle.
Speaker 1: His PayPal was linked to a bank account in the
Speaker 1: name of Peter Higgs.
Speaker 2: He is just out here signing his stealing. Yeah, like us,
Speaker 2: he left to know being like XL XL Peter Higgs.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like what, It's totally insane. If I was eluded
Speaker 3: antiquity stealer, I might borrow his handle and use it
Speaker 3: as my eBay handle as a way of you know,
Speaker 3: getting Scotland Yard off my tracks. But when the PayPal
Speaker 3: account is linked to his yeah, exactly. It's like, well,
Speaker 3: wait a minute, but we have an electronic record of
Speaker 3: you are receiving the money, then then then I think
Speaker 3: that then that's where.
Speaker 1: It breaks down. His first response was probably how stupid
Speaker 1: do you think I am? Like that, I would just
Speaker 1: like use the same to account Sultan in nineteen sixty six,
Speaker 1: you mad man. And then they're like, oh, also we
Speaker 1: got like you're selling it and it's like the money's
Speaker 1: going directly into your bank account. And every time it does,
Speaker 1: like we hear your phone make a little pitchang sound
Speaker 1: like we've been tracking that the whole time we've been
Speaker 1: having this meeting. Anyways, the museum itself is like the
Speaker 1: largest collection of stolen shit, like stolen property, and it
Speaker 1: like most of it's not even on display. First of all,
Speaker 1: just one percent. So they have eight million.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's one of the things that I'm incredibly furious about, right,
Speaker 2: So only one percent.
Speaker 1: Million objects is like in their possession eight million objects,
Speaker 1: and they are able to show eighty thousand objects in total,
Speaker 1: which is like a lot. That's a that's a big
Speaker 1: ass museum.
Speaker 2: But they've got But you could literally even if you
Speaker 2: were still going to be a person that is a
Speaker 2: plunderer that was going to keep stuff, you could literally
Speaker 2: keep that collection and give the rest of it away
Speaker 2: and still have a giant museum of stolen stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's totally wild. I just I just this summer
Speaker 3: went to the British Museum with my family and had
Speaker 3: a revelation about museums because this is not this isn't
Speaker 3: this doesn't have anything to do with ethics, guys. This
Speaker 3: has got to do with museum design. Because the British Museum,
Speaker 3: it only has one percent of its items, yes, but
Speaker 3: it also, like you said, has eighty thousand. Here here's
Speaker 3: my take on that. Too many. It's too fucking big.
Speaker 2: That's how I feel about the lover. I also went
Speaker 2: to I'm like, how many fucking Jesus is can? I really?
Speaker 2: I agree, you're exactly right.
Speaker 3: And here's here's the counter example. If you go to
Speaker 3: see the crown jewels, right, I'm not a big jewel fan. Also,
Speaker 3: those jewels totally stolen, not any ethically better. Here here's
Speaker 3: the thing. You walk into a room, there's fucking one thing.
Speaker 3: They're like, this is King Charles's old crown, and everybody
Speaker 3: looks at and it's like, oh okay. And then you
Speaker 3: go into the next room and it's got like three scepters,
Speaker 3: and it's like eight rooms big. Each thing has a
Speaker 3: manageable number of things. You're in and out in twenty minutes.
Speaker 3: It's my favorite museum in.
Speaker 1: All of Europe.
Speaker 3: You just you just just do some selecting, do some editing.
Speaker 3: For me as a museum goer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like a fucking massive, like uncoordinated playlist where
Speaker 1: it's just like the shit just like chaos.
Speaker 2: It's just chaos, chaos.
Speaker 1: Just it's like, yeah, they like the artists, think about
Speaker 1: the artists who originally made that, and it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're gonna be on the wall next to like three
Speaker 1: other paintings that you like don't even exist when you've
Speaker 1: when you're painting this one, or you've just like never
Speaker 1: heard of and like people are I don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a it's a fucking mess.
Speaker 2: Well. I also want to say that this reminds me
Speaker 2: of this. The New Yorker did a profile on Gagosian
Speaker 2: super recently that was by the way, Chef's kiss amazing fire, Like,
Speaker 2: do you know who he is? He's like the biggest
Speaker 2: art dealer, like his Gallerygosian, He's kind of like the
Speaker 2: art dealer guy, but he sells like art from the
Speaker 2: wealthy to the wealthy and basically has artificially changed the
Speaker 2: art market forever to where now things are worth millions
Speaker 2: of dollars that like, you know, weren't before. And some
Speaker 2: of it is like obviously good for an artist, but
Speaker 2: it's it's all artificial. He controls the market essentially. But
Speaker 2: what I want to say is all of these rich
Speaker 2: people that buy these incredible like Basquiats, these incredible like
Speaker 2: paintings that we you know, would cry like I cried
Speaker 2: when I saw Basquiat paintings in real life, like things
Speaker 2: that would change people's lives to look at you know,
Speaker 2: where most of them sit. They sit in a temperature
Speaker 2: controlled warehouse in Switzerland where these rich people's planes just
Speaker 2: like come drop them off and like leave forever. And
Speaker 2: then when these rich people kind of sell to each other,
Speaker 2: it's like it just goes for one place in that
Speaker 2: warehouse to another. Yeah, and that's it, and no one
Speaker 2: ever ever sees that art. And I feel like this
Speaker 2: is exactly that same vibe. It's like you just want
Speaker 2: to own it, to say that you own it, to
Speaker 2: feel like you're something, and to keep it from other
Speaker 2: people to keep it from being seen. That to me
Speaker 2: is like that's anathema, like you can't do that, or
Speaker 2: is the whole point of it is to be enjoyed?
Speaker 1: Yeah, And the amazing thing is that, like, yeah, so
Speaker 1: the world just like spreading that eight eight million objects
Speaker 1: out across like the original nations where they've made, you know,
Speaker 1: like this is going to be such a better like
Speaker 1: the world will be a more beautiful place, and exactly
Speaker 1: the entire argument for like why they have it is
Speaker 1: like obviously completely insulting and like unbelievable that it was
Speaker 1: ever the argument, but now it's like completely you know, upended,
Speaker 1: which they were like the their reason for not returning
Speaker 1: the ship up to this point is that other countries
Speaker 1: would either not be able to care take care of
Speaker 1: them or they would likely be stolen, which obviously doesn't
Speaker 1: hold water when you've got people in this country putting
Speaker 1: them on eBay, the calls.
Speaker 2: Coming from inside the fucking house.
Speaker 1: So it's really like just Hartwig Fisher, one of the
Speaker 1: main heads of the thing, who they were like, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure this is like one of your one
Speaker 1: of yours, and someone just sold it on eBay and
Speaker 1: he just ignored them for a couple of years, resigned
Speaker 1: in disgrace, but he argued that the removal and exhibition
Speaker 1: of these Greek marbles was elegenc The Elgin Marbles was
Speaker 1: itself a creative act in its own reg It wasn't stealing,
Speaker 1: it was like art the way that they took it
Speaker 1: and putting.
Speaker 2: My man just banks, try to bank see his way
Speaker 2: out of stealing and selling cultural fucking artifacts on eBay,
Speaker 2: Get out of here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the guy who was selling all the shit
Speaker 1: on eBay was in charge of the Elgin Marbles at
Speaker 1: the time of everybody discovering the shit.
Speaker 2: So and also when Peter Higgs got fired, right, he
Speaker 2: got re hired immediately. Yeah, right, and like was just
Speaker 2: in charge of some other art. Yeah, Like there's no
Speaker 2: consequences for these fucking guys.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's almost like these institutions are elitist or
Speaker 1: something almost true. Almost well, Scott, truly a pleasure having
Speaker 1: you on the daily Geist. Where can people find you?
Speaker 1: Follow you, hear you all that good stuff.
Speaker 3: Well, the thing that's probably best for people to check
Speaker 3: out is a podcast called Born to Love that I
Speaker 3: co host with Ellie Kemper. Each week we bring on
Speaker 3: celebrity guests to talk about something that they were born
Speaker 3: to love, usually not related to their jobs. So we
Speaker 3: had Al Roker to talk about how he loves barbecue,
Speaker 3: Christian Shall talking about how she loves close up magic.
Speaker 3: My favorite was Zach Cherry. He is a very funny actor,
Speaker 3: comedian and his and what he was born to love
Speaker 3: is watching cable TV in hotel rooms.
Speaker 1: So it's a fun.
Speaker 3: It's a fun it's a fun eclectic podcast. I hope
Speaker 3: you check it out. I'm on Twitter at at niscottecker
Speaker 3: dot com, but nobody follows me, so there's no reason
Speaker 3: for you two.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: That's not true.
Speaker 1: Go check them out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, following you immediately.
Speaker 1: And uh, is there a work of media that you've
Speaker 1: been enjoying by any chance?
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know if discounts as as a work
Speaker 3: of media, but I've just gotten into just this week,
Speaker 3: the New York Times Short Crossword, which is a tiny
Speaker 3: little crossword. I hate long crosswords because I'm not smart
Speaker 3: enough to do him. But in the four or five
Speaker 3: that I've done this week, they make me feel smart
Speaker 3: because it's like, oh, I can fill out this eight
Speaker 3: question crossword you have.
Speaker 2: Changed my mother fucking life. I did not know about this.
Speaker 3: It's it's pretty fun. Did there's a little timer for
Speaker 3: how fast you can do it, because the assumption is
Speaker 3: that pretty much everyone's gonna be able to do it,
Speaker 3: and so far it's worked out great for me. It's
Speaker 3: five minutes. It's even less. It's less frustrating than wordle.
Speaker 3: So New York Times crossword short class word?
Speaker 2: Is it daily, Scott?
Speaker 3: I believe it's daily.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's daily. Yeah, it's a blast.
Speaker 3: Are you a short crossword of ficionado?
Speaker 2: Jack?
Speaker 1: I like a short crossword. I like a wordle. I
Speaker 1: like the Monday crossword puzzle, the Monday lost easiest. It's
Speaker 1: so easy, it's so fun.
Speaker 3: But how long does it take you? Because it would
Speaker 3: probably take me half an hour at least.
Speaker 1: Takes me like fourteen fifteen minutes somewhere in there.
Speaker 3: That's a reasonable period of time. This short crossword things
Speaker 3: opened my eyes because if there were other games and
Speaker 3: activities that took less than five minutes, Like if I
Speaker 3: could just play a five minute game of basketball, I
Speaker 3: think I'd be playing a lot more basketball.
Speaker 1: I think they should just do that. That should be
Speaker 1: what the NBA is from now on, just five minutes
Speaker 1: sprint to like whoever you can get to ten first. Amazing, Sophia,
Speaker 1: such a pleasure having you as so much guest co host.
Speaker 1: Where can people find you? Follow you?
Speaker 2: I'm at the Sofia so f I y a on
Speaker 2: Twitter and Instagram and of course you can listen to
Speaker 2: me and Miles who is currently in Italy.
Speaker 1: Are are we revealing that I don't know? Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, he already revealed it on four twenty.
Speaker 1: Okay, good.
Speaker 2: Do you want me to say a different version so
Speaker 2: that you can edit it out? I will say no, No,
Speaker 2: I think that's the case. I mean, I'm not trying
Speaker 2: to blow up a spot. He played the fun sucking
Speaker 2: theme music of him going to Italy. Yeah, I'm pretty
Speaker 2: sure the genies out.
Speaker 1: There simply must. Yeah. He might have actually mentioned it
Speaker 1: on this show.
Speaker 2: I just but yeah, I appreciate you caring for him.
Speaker 2: But once he brought the soundboard into it, I was like,
Speaker 2: I think this is public.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, anyway, for.
Speaker 2: Twenty Day Fiance, where we watched trash TV and talk
Speaker 2: about it with Miles Gray. So check us out for
Speaker 2: twenty Day Fiance and all of the platforms.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yep. And is there a working media you've been enjoying?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was. I've been enjoying for a long time
Speaker 2: the fifty years of hip Hop thing on the New
Speaker 2: Yorker because you can just click on each of the
Speaker 2: rappers and it gives you a tiny little thing so
Speaker 2: you can make your way through it forever. It's kind
Speaker 2: of like a sharp short crossword. So whenever I'm like chilling,
Speaker 2: I just have that pulled up on my phone and
Speaker 2: I click on any of the rappers and I'm like okay,
Speaker 2: and uh yeah. So it's pretty fun. Fifty years of
Speaker 2: hip hop.
Speaker 1: Let's see a tweet I've been in enjoy doing tarra
Speaker 1: at Proltera tweeted. Everybody at this home depot is getting
Speaker 1: hurricane supplies, except this one woman is buying the twelve
Speaker 1: foot skeleton, and that reminded me it's twelve foot skeleton season.
Speaker 1: I need to go get that ship. I'm gonna try
Speaker 1: and get it this afternoon. But I like a person
Speaker 1: in a Florida home depot as they're preparing for a
Speaker 1: once in a generation storm getting getting the twelve foot skeleton.
Speaker 3: Is the twelve foot skeleton one of those blowy ones
Speaker 3: or is it because I'm imagining that a twelve foot
Speaker 3: skeleton one that that blows around would be pretty fun,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 2: Holy shit ideas.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like that's making that's making lemon lemonade out of
Speaker 3: lemons right there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's a good point. Like I just be
Speaker 1: worth weather testing, just like a get a time lapse
Speaker 1: video of how the twelve foot skeleton holds up in
Speaker 1: a generational storm?
Speaker 2: Am I wrong? Or are we all picturing like inflatable?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: What I'm imagining, sure, I'm just imagining. Now that's the
Speaker 3: the e MT and the rowboat with the like flooded neighborhood,
Speaker 3: and then there's the one house with the several of
Speaker 3: the twelve foot skeletons and twelve foot skeletons everyone inside water,
Speaker 3: but the ems are delighted.
Speaker 2: Yeah, days, the skeletons are smiling. I don't know why,
Speaker 2: but I needed to make sure.
Speaker 1: Everyone do that. Yeah, all right. You can find me
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Speaker 1: we talked about in today's episode, well as a song
Speaker 1: that we think you might enjoy. Super producer Justin is
Speaker 1: there a song that you think people might enjoy?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just got back from spending all last week
Speaker 4: in my hometown of Chicago to wind down the summer
Speaker 4: and celebrate my birthday. And I want to put oh,
Speaker 4: thank you so much, and I want to put all
Speaker 4: y'all onto an amazing band who's made Chicago their new home.
Speaker 4: I think they're originally from Madison, Wisconsin.
Speaker 3: They're called Slow Pulp that's s l O W p
Speaker 3: U LP.
Speaker 4: And if you listen to like alt rock radio in
Speaker 4: the mid to late two thousands, you'll probably feel pretty
Speaker 4: nostalgic for these guys. You're kind of reminiscent of Paramore,
Speaker 4: but they have more of like a grungy, low fi
Speaker 4: indie rock type vibe that would sound perfect and like
Speaker 4: an anime title sequence. But this song is called Slugs
Speaker 4: and it's by Slow Pulpe and you can find that
Speaker 4: song in the footnote.
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