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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season three, h two,

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Speaker 1: Episode two of Daly's geist day production of iHeartRadio. This

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Speaker 1: is a podcast where we take a deep dive into

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Speaker 1: America's share consciousness. I'm a little sick. It's Wednesday, August thirtieth,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. We did a placebo episode about how

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Speaker 1: you know all the different ways that illness and cures

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Speaker 1: can be a mind fuck, and then I immediately got sick,

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Speaker 1: So now I don't know if I'm actually sick or

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Speaker 1: what is happening with the fucking true nightmare. My name

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Speaker 1: is Jack O'Brien aka Potatoes O'Brien, and I'm thrilled to

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Speaker 1: be joined in my guest co host seat, my very

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Speaker 1: talented writer, stand up comedian. Her advice on sex and

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Speaker 1: travel has been featured Men's Health, The Strategist, Betches, and

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Speaker 1: Anywhere men need help fingering. She also co hosts The

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Speaker 1: Great ninety Day Fiance podcast four twenty Day Fiance with

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Speaker 1: some guy named Miles.

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Speaker 2: I guess, yeah, how do you pronounce that?

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Speaker 3: Myriean Obrien?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, my Miles is great. Welcome to the show, The hilarious,

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Speaker 1: the talented Sophia Alexandra.

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. Thank you so much, and I have

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Speaker 2: a little ditty. I don't want no subs sub and

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Speaker 2: four miles won't get no love for me sitting in

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Speaker 2: his podcast chair with my bright bank hair, trying to

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Speaker 2: host e Dzo. I thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: I love it. But I think you are doing that

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Speaker 1: and you're gonna nail it, so we do want some

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Speaker 1: subs you, in particular, welcome, Welcome. Your bright pink hair

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Speaker 1: is amazing. It's looking good.

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Speaker 2: So is your newly found deep voice. Holdly, I know

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Speaker 2: you're talking about this shit.

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Speaker 1: What's up, guys? Sounds like I should be on the

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Speaker 1: Rogan networkers.

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Speaker 2: I was just gonna say that I was the mothership

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Speaker 2: this fucking weekend. That's that's the fucking energy this base

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Speaker 2: is giving me. It's it's it's commanding respect. That's right,

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Speaker 2: despite you know, whatever knowledge you may or may not have. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: see now, girl works and the spelling automatically changed from

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Speaker 2: g I r L to g u r L as

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Speaker 2: soon as your voice.

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Speaker 1: God, that's right, girl, Thank you. I hate it. I

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Speaker 1: hate it well. Sophia Weird throwed to be joining our

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Speaker 1: third seat by a very funny comedy writer improviser co

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Speaker 1: hosts the podcast Born to Love with Ellie Kemper on

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Speaker 1: our sister network with Will Ferrell. Big Oney players, please

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Speaker 1: welcome the brilliant, the hilarious Scott that girl. Hello. Hello.

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Speaker 3: I feel like I need to I need to take

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Speaker 3: some deep voice pills now to keep.

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Speaker 1: It down here, man down here, bro to do it

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Speaker 1: all right?

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Speaker 3: Bro?

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Speaker 1: What's good?

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Speaker 2: How are you down here?

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Speaker 1: Scott? Meet me down in the basement. Brother, oh, my

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Speaker 1: brother in Christ. Welcome, Welcome to the Rogan. This is

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Speaker 1: actually a show where we just like recap Rogan and

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Speaker 1: talk about like all the shit that we learned.

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Speaker 3: I'm excited to hear about some truth.

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Speaker 1: That's what I wanted.

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Speaker 3: That's right, really finally, Yeah, what Scott? You are in

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Speaker 3: Los Angeles as well? I am in Los Angeles. Just

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Speaker 3: made it through a tropical storm and an earthquake, neither

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Speaker 3: of which I really noticed, to tell.

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Speaker 1: You this, notice at all. Didn't notice the earthquake.

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Speaker 2: I feel like I'm not God, but yeah, but I

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Speaker 2: feel like LA is not going to get the right

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Speaker 2: like lesson from all of this, because like it was

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Speaker 2: a horrible thing that just like so happened to bypass us.

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Speaker 2: So I think the lesson was like, oh, yeah, we

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Speaker 3: That's definitely the lesson from it.

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Speaker 1: So we're good here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like, why would I even think about

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Speaker 2: a generator? Who's to charge?

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Speaker 1: What? Fuck all these once in a millennium weather events.

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Speaker 1: Let's just we're good.

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Speaker 3: We're good for another hundred years now, we don't have

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Speaker 2: We're all set.

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Speaker 1: I thought you were gonna say, cancel gay marriage is

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Speaker 1: the is the lesson because I've been listening to Rogan,

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Speaker 1: So that's that's where my brain went.

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Speaker 2: That's an og Diddy. I think Pat Robertson wrote that one.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it is a classic. Well all right, so

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Speaker 1: we're all in Los Angeles, just separate places in Los Angeles,

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Speaker 1: but it's great to have you all here, Scott. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna get to know you a little bit better in

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Speaker 1: a moment. First, we're gonna tell the people a couple

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Speaker 1: of things we're talking about later on. Possibly we might

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Speaker 1: be talking about the dependency ratio. I don't know, I wrote,

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Speaker 1: it will be boring. Well, we'll try it out. But

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Speaker 1: there's a front page article in the New York Times

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Speaker 1: about the dependency ratio how it is affecting China's of me.

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Speaker 2: Right now, Hey, Jack, I thought it was pretty interesting.

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Speaker 1: Hey all right, you did. I really appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: We're also going to talk about the Whopper lawsuit. Now

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Speaker 1: this is more in our wheelhouse. Yes, like this is

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Speaker 1: I feel like this is suing parents over lying to

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Speaker 1: you about the tooth fairy level ship. Like this is

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Speaker 1: such a basic lie that I feel like we had

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Speaker 1: of course they're gonna lie about that, but disagree side

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Speaker 1: multiple No, I'm not like I'm here for it. It's

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Speaker 1: just furious. I love it. I love how much they

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Speaker 1: like just that somebody had that thought. They were like,

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Speaker 1: fuck it. This is the time to sue Burger King

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Speaker 1: for taking a picture of the Whopper. That doesn't that

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Speaker 2: My time is shine. Finally, I've been seething since I

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Speaker 2: first moved to America in nineteen ninety four.

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Speaker 1: You moved here for the Whopper? I did.

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Speaker 2: I was like the American Dream is fucking bullshit.

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Speaker 3: Uh that's the only that's the only example of how

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Speaker 3: that's true. Though everything else about the American Dream just

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Speaker 3: it checks out.

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Speaker 1: But the one thing it.

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Speaker 2: Was dead on, but the whopper thing I will not

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Speaker 1: We got this one thing to correct and then we're

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Speaker 1: going to be bat in one.

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Speaker 2: Thousand, pretty pretty golden.

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Speaker 1: After that, Yeah, we might talk about the Great British

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Speaker 1: Shout out to jam our writer who put that one

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Speaker 1: that bullshit, Scott, we do like to ask our guests,

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Speaker 1: what is something from your search history that's revealing about

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Speaker 3: The very last search that I did just last night

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Speaker 3: It is the setting of a show on Hulu called

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Speaker 3: The Greats, which is why I was googling it, and

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Speaker 3: I went in a deep dive on Russian history, which

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Speaker 3: the buffoonery of our friends from Russia.

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Speaker 1: I don't know the story that, well, what was what

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Speaker 1: was going down in the Winter Palace? Is that where what.

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Speaker 2: Wasn't going down in the walace?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 2: Jack? Am I right? Scott chest bump.

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Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, well there is one. There wasn't anything especially

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Speaker 3: fact that apparently two I think it was two hundred

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but did you see it? Pretty fucking

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Speaker 3: classic Moscow. This is Saint Petersburg. Baby, I know I've

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Speaker 1: But ever still language, you study Russian language? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Wow, the accent on that is not great here.

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Speaker 3: I was expecting you to be like it was fantastic.

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Speaker 3: I gotta I gotta tread carefully. Sophia, are you from Russia?

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Speaker 3: Do you know my favorite word in Russian is no

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Speaker 3: what kaladilnik. It means refrigerator. At least that's what I remember.

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Speaker 1: Pretty cool, that's a good word.

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Speaker 3: So I'm listening to an audible, a two volume biography

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Speaker 2: My fucking grandpa was like, those are exactly the fucking

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Speaker 3: can check it out. Yeah, and there's one left left

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Speaker 2: It's gonna work out.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think they're going to beat I think there's

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Speaker 1: I mean, it kind of was, but you have like

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Speaker 1: a brief rise. By the way, I feel like you

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Speaker 1: shouting out Russia's word for refrigerator. I feel like the

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Speaker 1: on the word refrigerator. That's pretty good like that. I

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Speaker 3: That's a cool word.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. It sounds like a brand name or something like.

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Speaker 2: Sounds like it has a motor.

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Speaker 3: Well that's what it means, right, it doesn't mean cold

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Speaker 2: But I just mean, I feel like refrigerator doesn't make

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Speaker 2: you think of cold. It makes you think of a motor.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but keeping it cold frigid, throwing frigid in there,

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Speaker 1: So I don't know. I think they really I think

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Speaker 1: gotta we gotta do better than ice chest I think

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Speaker 1: was what they called it.

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Speaker 3: Ice automatic ice chest.

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Speaker 2: Ice chest has like a chalice vibe.

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Speaker 2: You know, like I'm gonna sit on my ice chest

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Speaker 2: with my jealous of mead. My favorite Russian word borgia.

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Speaker 2: It is how you say ladybug and it means God's

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Speaker 2: little cow and I'm obsessed with.

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Speaker 3: It, which my favorite.

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Speaker 2: Isn't that the cutest thing you've ever heard? Are you

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Scott, Scott.

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Speaker 1: What is something you think is overrated. Massages, massages.

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Speaker 3: I do not like giving massages, and I do not

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Speaker 2: Have you ever had a good one?

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Speaker 1: So oh, they do tell you that I'm no one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I like to go from massage directly to just

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, you're the healthiest.

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Speaker 1: That's that voice came around, And that's why I sound

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Speaker 2: I think it's bold of you to admit that you

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Speaker 3: Mm hmm. Yeah, well, I mean it's a little more

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Speaker 2: I was going to come back to this podcast for.

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Speaker 3: That what's what's like? What is it a massage giving?

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Speaker 2: Because you can feel it. You can feel when the

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Speaker 2: you know what, take your fucking lobster ass hands out

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Speaker 2: of here. I don't this pity massage.

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Speaker 1: They're just giving like mitten style massages figures together and then.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, fucking zoidberging my fucking neck. I don't want that, Scott.

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Speaker 2: Is that your style to do a bad job? So

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Speaker 3: That's I mean, no matter what I'll do, I'll give

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Speaker 3: it's just not my thing. Are you an expert massage giver?

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Speaker 2: Would you say, yeah, I'm awesome, I have the hands

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Speaker 1: One of God's little cows exactly. Yeah, yeah, I like

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Speaker 2: Receptive noises, being like that is the spot. How did

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Speaker 1: Really sweet. She gives uh, my wife and I massages

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Speaker 1: But I totally took it to heart. I was like, yes,

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Speaker 1: I mean she's given my wife every single compliment the world.

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Speaker 1: Your husband, I don't know, did a good job taking

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Speaker 2: She's taking a massage sounds like so Dommy like yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: You take that, don't you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Exactly, Scott with something you think is underrated the beach.

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Speaker 1: The beach. Okay, we get a lot of on this show.

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Speaker 1: is this is an important moment for this show to

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Speaker 1: the floor is yours.

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Speaker 2: There beach haters out here. There's Ken Who's just like,

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Speaker 2: my job is beach and people are beach haters. I

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, we live, We were lucky enough to

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Speaker 2: Really a beach lover? Then this, well, this is exactly

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Speaker 3: It's seventy five. It's seventy five and sunny. There's the

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Speaker 3: the ocean is is one of the most majestic creations

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Speaker 1: Stand next to the biggest thing on planet Earth in

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Speaker 3: That's exactly right, it's it, and it exerts its force

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Speaker 3: You're you're You're overwhelmed and delighted by the sound right

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Speaker 2: because it will absolutely of Scott giving this impassioned, yelling,

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Speaker 3: Yes, well, since here, guys, I mean, I'm a fool.

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Speaker 2: Literally like half a block from the beach in Venice,

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Speaker 2: That's all I was just gonna say, that's the only

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm forty five minutes away, but I yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm with you. I need to like just be in

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Speaker 2: when the waves hit me, that's real nice. But you

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Speaker 2: Swimming in the sea, you can actually swim, it's like

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Speaker 1: and body surf in the Pacific and you're gonna you're

439
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Speaker 1: gonna get put in the spin cycle? Is that what

440
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Speaker 1: surfers call it?

441
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Speaker 2: Anyways, I don't know the terms, but that sounds right.

442
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll be bad and all the surfers will make

443
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Speaker 1: fun of me. That'll be the number one hand of there.

444
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 1: They won't let me into their bank robbing gang.

445
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 2: Victor just said the current, put in the spin cycle.

446
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Speaker 1: The current, I.

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Speaker 2: Believe, Thank you so much.

448
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Speaker 1: The cur there's a slang term, victor for like when

449
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Speaker 1: you get like, you know, flipped upside down by a wave,

450
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Speaker 1: and I believe I've heard it referred to as the

451
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Speaker 1: spin cycle. But I have heard of the current as well.

452
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Speaker 1: You watch out for that for sure. All right, let's

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Speaker 1: take a let's take a quick break, and we'll come

454
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Speaker 1: back and talk about some news. We'll be right back.

455
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Speaker 1: And we're back, and there's a lot of news. We're

456
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Speaker 1: mainly a US news zeitgeist, but I'm seeing a lot

457
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Speaker 1: of news of late that China's economy is stalling, and

458
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Speaker 1: the New York Times had a piece today blaming it

459
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Speaker 1: on demographics, which is something that we've talked about on

460
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Speaker 1: this before. But anytime I get a chance to talk

461
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Speaker 1: about the dependency ratio, I will do it because I

462
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Speaker 1: do think it's like one of my if this show

463
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 1: had a like overrated, I feel like that that would

464
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Speaker 1: be one of the things that we underrate. I guess

465
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Speaker 1: about explaining why things are the way they are in

466
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Speaker 1: the world, is this thing called the dependency ratio. It's

467
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Speaker 1: not like controversial. Most people are like, yeah, yeah, no,

468
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 1: that's true, that's why things work that way. But like

469
00:24:56,320 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 1: it immediately gets lost because it takes all of the

470
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Speaker 1: personality and like personal responsibility out of like America having

471
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Speaker 1: a good economy and just like breaks it down into

472
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Speaker 1: a story of like demographics, and everyone's like, no, we're

473
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Speaker 1: we have money because we're the best. We're good people

474
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Speaker 1: and we work hard. But basically, the idea of the

475
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Speaker 1: dependency ratio is that you put all the people in

476
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Speaker 1: your country that are working age like that are you

477
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Speaker 1: able to work on one side of a scale, all

478
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Speaker 1: the people who are either too young or too old

479
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Speaker 1: to work on the other side of the scale, and

480
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Speaker 1: when the people who are of working age outweigh the

481
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Speaker 1: people who are not who can't work by a lot,

482
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Speaker 1: you have a really strong economy.

483
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Speaker 2: Basically, it breaks down into the supported and the supporters exactly.

484
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Speaker 2: And if you have too many people those people who

485
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Speaker 2: are supported side, and not enough people who are the supporters,

486
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 2: then the economy does not do well and things don't

487
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Speaker 2: recover well. So I actually want to relate this a

488
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Speaker 2: little bit too. As you know, I'm an unofficial ambassador

489
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 2: to Paris, but you know the protests. I was there

490
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 2: when when they started, and it's about, you know, raising

491
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Speaker 2: the retirement age, and it's precisely because of the dependency ratio.

492
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Speaker 2: There's not enough people working to take care of the

493
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Speaker 2: people that are trying to retire. So they're like, hey,

494
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Speaker 2: can we push the age back two years to make

495
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Speaker 2: up for the the gap dependency. So yeah, that's all.

496
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Speaker 2: Just wanted to bring in just a little correspondent situation.

497
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Speaker 1: Oh that was good. That's a great example. It's better

498
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 1: than it's good in this news podcast. To have an

499
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Speaker 1: example from the news, I didn't bother to write, and

500
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, here's a New York Times article.

501
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 1: They reminded me of a thing I know Anyways, that

502
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Speaker 1: and the article is interesting because it's like, first, let

503
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 1: me like summarize what's going on with the economy based

504
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 1: on all the writing, and the summary is all like

505
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,919
Speaker 1: the real estate market has turned down, like they like

506
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 1: mentioned this like poetic turn a phrase of like the

507
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 1: Chinese are calling the sense of national stasis nawan, which

508
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 1: translated to life twisting inward without real progress.

509
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 2: And you know, I'm just the state of the world

510
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,439
Speaker 2: right now. And it kind of like pierced me deeply

511
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 2: in my heart when I read that, I was like,

512
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 2: Jesus fucking Christ, damn you mailed how everybody and everything

513
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 2: in the world currently is Holy fuck.

514
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, just life twisting inward like a snailshell and no

515
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 1: forward momentum whatsoever. But yeah, for all of that and

516
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:59,160
Speaker 1: all the explanations they give that, they ultimately come back

517
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Speaker 1: to this guy who's been looking at the demography, like

518
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:06,399
Speaker 1: the demographics of China, and it's like, hey, this is

519
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:11,120
Speaker 1: gonna be bad like fairly soon. And the the thing

520
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 1: that has like driven China's really powerful economy for the

521
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 1: past you know, handful of decades is the same thing

522
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 1: that's going to make them go off. This like demographic

523
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Speaker 1: cliff because basically one policy, the one child policy. Yeah,

524
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 1: so they had a one child policy, and as when

525
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Speaker 1: they had that, they had all these people who were

526
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Speaker 1: going through the working age, you know, a ton of

527
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Speaker 1: people that they had. They made the one child policy

528
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 1: because their population was going up so fast, so they

529
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 1: had like a massive baby boom essentially, and as that

530
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Speaker 1: massive baby boom was going through the like working age,

531
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Speaker 1: they were in great shape. And not only that, but

532
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Speaker 1: they also had a small amount of dependence because they

533
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 1: had instituted this one child policy and just like.

534
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Speaker 2: The commitment to the workforce was like artificially strengthened because

535
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Speaker 2: you have only one kid and it's easier to just

536
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Speaker 2: go back to work.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I think there's a lot of reasons. It

538
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 1: like made a lot of sense. But now they're hitting

539
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 1: the point where that big, like baby boom that made

540
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Speaker 1: them put the one child policy into place in the

541
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 1: first place is going to start retiring and the only

542
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 1: people left to work are going to be the one

543
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Speaker 1: child policy babies, like the like government mandated only children.

544
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Speaker 1: And they're like they they kind of got a sense

545
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Speaker 1: that this was going to happen and this was bad,

546
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 1: and so they've like tried to get people to start

547
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 1: fucking again. But it's just it hasn't worked like that.

548
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 1: They are still like their procreation number or whatever is

549
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 1: like one point something. It's so the population is like shrinking.

550
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Speaker 1: So I don't know this just it feels like such

551
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: a massive idea that is like such a clear you know,

552
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 1: it explains so much economic success and like so much

553
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Speaker 1: of like what happened in the twentieth century and like

554
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Speaker 1: beginning of the twenty first century. But the US like

555
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 1: never really like never sticks in the news. And I

556
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 1: really think it's just that the baby boomers are so

557
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 1: selfish that they like want this takes away some of

558
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 1: their like personal agency for having like created America's economic

559
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 1: success because it's just like, no, you just happen to

560
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 1: be like part of this weird like demographic blip of

561
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 1: like the baby boom and so like. But if you

562
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Speaker 1: look at a baby.

563
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Speaker 2: Boomers make it part of their identity right that they are,

564
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Speaker 2: you know, the how they are what made America like work, right.

565
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's just like no, there's just like too

566
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 1: many of you. Like it's bad ultimately, but it was

567
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 1: good for these thirty years.

568
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 2: And also it's interesting because that whole sense of like

569
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 2: inward like we make shit happen, we are the right

570
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 2: and the important ones has translated into them being like, well,

571
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 2: like fuck you, we want our social security and we

572
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 2: want all of this stuff without ever thinking about their

573
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 2: kids or like the world they're leaving behind. I think

574
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Speaker 2: like that self centeredness, I guess is what I was

575
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 2: gonna say. I think, yeah, is like across the board.

576
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, like getting back to China just for a second.

577
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 3: I agree that that we're in. It's like a ticking

578
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 3: time bomb, the whole baby boom generation, like we've been

579
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 3: talking about. It's like, oh no, as they age, we're fucked.

580
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 3: But like you were talking about how the one child

581
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 3: policy screwed over China, I'm not sure if it was

582
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 3: in that New York Times article, Jack, but another big

583
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 3: demographic problem with that is that when you're only allowed

584
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 3: to have one child, and there is a sort of

585
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 3: cultural sexism that's so deeply ingrained, the disproportionate amount of

586
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 3: the of the single children, the only children we were boys.

587
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 3: So now there's literally decades worth of of adult male

588
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 3: Chinese men and there aren't like there's a lack of

589
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 3: partners for them, there's jizz.

590
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 2: Just dying to get.

591
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 3: And I think the last time the article that I

592
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 3: read about this, this is not from this morning, but

593
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 3: this is more recently, not not more recently than this morning,

594
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 3: but in the recent past, is that the only similar

595
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 3: sort of demographic imbalance in history is the wild West,

596
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 3: when and cowboys and ship went out west and there

597
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 3: was just like, you know, way more, way more men,

598
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 3: and like, I don't know if you guys are familiar

599
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:09,479
Speaker 3: with wild Web stories, but there's a lot of fighting, right,

600
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 3: There's a lot a lot of violence.

601
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Speaker 2: There's also a lot of raping. Yeah, because there's not

602
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 2: enough women to go around. You're not going to be like, oh, milady,

603
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 2: would you like the choice of all of the things.

604
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 2: It's going to be like mine.

605
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 1: But think about all the great inventions that we got

606
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 1: from the wild West, like the saloon with a spittoon

607
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 1: in every corner, Like just yeah.

608
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 2: Those doors that swing open when.

609
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 3: You say the doors that you can see the bottoms

610
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 3: and the tops like that, they're just the midway doors.

611
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 1: Those are the least the least effective doors ever invented.

612
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 3: Right. They don't they don't trap heater cold, they don't

613
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 3: block anyone sight.

614
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 2: They don't lock.

615
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 3: Actually, even if they did lock, you could crawl right under.

616
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, you could any of humanity that you're getting with

617
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: a wild West type society. Yeah.

618
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 2: And also you know, like we don't really know the

619
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 2: real numbers of any of this because China fundamentally fundamentally

620
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 2: lies about everything. And like when I was there, the

621
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 2: guy that was like our guide, you know, was telling us,

622
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 2: like we were driving by like all of these high

623
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 2: rises that are just fucking emptiest empty yeah, and we

624
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 2: were like, what is this And he's like, oh, well,

625
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 2: like to artificially inflate stuff and to have job growth

626
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 2: and creation or whatever, they're like having people build these

627
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 2: giant high rises, but like no one can actually afford

628
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,320
Speaker 2: to live in them, so they just stand there empty.

629
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 2: But like they just keep building new ones. And he says,

630
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 2: like American companies come through and they like film like

631
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 2: post apocalyptic stuff there.

632
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

633
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 2: Hell is just the most insane fucking combination of random

634
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 2: ass things where you're like what the fuck? Yeah, And

635
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 2: then I was asking him about like car accident rates

636
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 2: because I was like, damn, like I can't believe like

637
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 2: all of this works because I'm watching people speed around

638
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 2: and like you know, on motorbikes and balancing babies and

639
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 2: wives and like baskets of things and like and no

640
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 2: one gives a fuck about the rules, like but somehow

641
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 2: it still works. I was like, but are there a

642
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,800
Speaker 2: lot of accidents? Like what are the accident rates? And

643
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 2: he kind of laughed and he was like, well, nobody

644
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 2: really knows. He's like, we wouldn't know what they are,

645
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 2: cause like to look good, you would make them be

646
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 2: a good amount. Like it's just how it works. He said,

647
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 2: like one time there was an accident and like like

648
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 2: a train accident and like a collision and hundreds of

649
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 2: people died, but they just like buried the train with

650
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 2: the people in it.

651
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 1: Yeah what Yeah, So.

652
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 2: Nobody wants to be like, yeah, something happened with these trains.

653
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 2: They're just like what trains. So I'm just saying, like,

654
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 2: we don't even know the stunt of this problem. It

655
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 2: could be so much worse.

656
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 1: Well that's what he say. He's saying that a lot

657
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: of this shit is like turning bad earlier than anyone

658
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 1: was expecting other than him. So he wrote a book

659
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,760
Speaker 1: called Big Country with an Empty Nest in two thousand

660
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: and seven and it was immediately banned by the Chinese government,

661
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: but people were like, this seems interesting, and he was

662
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:27,320
Speaker 1: predicting everything that's currently happening due to the one child policy.

663
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 1: But by twenty thirteen, Chinese authorities were like, hey, you

664
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 1: seem smart actually, and they had like started rethinking the

665
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:36,240
Speaker 1: one child policy.

666
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,359
Speaker 2: And now I've had one of my trademark changes.

667
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: Of heart exactly. By the way, speaking of demographics and

668
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: sex of like the breakdown of sex the like another

669
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 1: thing that drove the American baby boom is that, like,

670
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:55,240
Speaker 1: so the baby boom started entering the workforce in force

671
00:36:55,320 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 1: in like sixty six and reached the peak of everybody

672
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 1: who was part of the baby boom was working age

673
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty two, and everybody whose baby boom was

674
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 1: in the workforce through two thousand and like six to

675
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: two thousand and eleven, depending on when they were retiring.

676
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:21,280
Speaker 1: But that was also a time when like women were

677
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 1: more and more able to be part of the workforce,

678
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:28,439
Speaker 1: and like, so you're letting like the smartest adults now

679
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 1: like get to work instead of not getting to work,

680
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 1: Like so I think I think that also was like

681
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 1: a massive help when it came to the US.

682
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, it seems to me. It seems to me that

683
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 3: like it definitely helps the economy when a all shitload

684
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 3: extra people start working and and be half of the

685
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:53,919
Speaker 3: population is allowed to join in, Like yeah, you're untapped talent.

686
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 3: You would expect a productivity boost from changes like those

687
00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,919
Speaker 3: and and we got one.

688
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. So but anyways, I mean the US is

689
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,720
Speaker 1: hitting you know, it's they started, like the Baby boom

690
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:10,879
Speaker 1: generation started aging out around like two thousand and six

691
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 1: to twenty eleven. And you might recognize that as like

692
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 1: a time where the economy started to stagnate a little bit.

693
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 1: But the US didn't have this role like demographic.

694
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 2: Stuff started happening with Britney Spears. I'm just saying, yes.

695
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 1: I think, well, right, that's the thirds.

696
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,879
Speaker 3: The sliding doors moment if she hadn't had that conservatorship

697
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 3: or whatever.

698
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 2: I'm not saying causation on correlation.

699
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 1: Guy, But the US doesn't have this like unnatural like

700
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 1: demographic cliff that they're going over. So they're going to

701
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 1: like just be getting slightly worse over over the next

702
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: handful of decades.

703
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 3: Right, It'll be more like Europe in Japan, right, because

704
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 3: they preceded US in exactly this sort of dependency ratio

705
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 3: because they have Europe and Japan had fewer kids historically

706
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 3: than we have, and now we're catching up our declining

707
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 3: birth rates and immigration. Because it's a problem immigration.

708
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 2: That's what I was gonna say. The other thing is,

709
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 2: like we have constantly an influx of new people because

710
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 2: of immigration.

711
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. Immigration is the thing that saves America from it.

712
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, and despite the fact that fucking every fucking conservative

713
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 2: Republican person is so shitty about it, it's like without immigration,

714
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 2: this place would truly die.

715
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 1: Right, Well, they think they can just like magically make

716
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,760
Speaker 1: America like Baby Boom generation. Like they want to believe

717
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 1: that it was just like through sheer tyranny of will

718
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: and like American values that they had success and that

719
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 1: they can just like magically make America great again by if,

720
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 1: like just if everyone would just listen to them, and

721
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 1: like their primary like policy objective is to like end immigration,

722
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 1: which would be the exact opposite of like it's the

723
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 1: one thing that's going to make America viable going forward,

724
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 1: but they want to they want to end that ship.

725
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 1: So anyways, turns out Donald Trump kind of an idiot.

726
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 1: We've never said that, I'm sorry, racist and shortsighted to be.

727
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,280
Speaker 2: I didn't agree to commonist show that would say such.

728
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:25,320
Speaker 1: Crazy.

729
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 2: I couldn't even finish that.

730
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 1: All right, let's take another quick break and we'll come

731
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 1: back and we'll talk Whopper, and we'll talk the Great

732
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 1: British Museum theft. We'll be right back and we're back,

733
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 1: And I mean this Whopper story, it's just a lawsuit

734
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: that a judge has said can go forward. And the

735
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,800
Speaker 1: suit is basically just claiming that Burger Can commercials feature

736
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 1: burgers that are approximately thirty five percent larger in size

737
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: and contain more than double the meat.

738
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 2: Okay, that is a huge difference. I know, Jack, you

739
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:18,760
Speaker 2: think that this is ridiculous. I'm sorry, what double the meat? No?

740
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: How do you know the how do you know the

741
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 1: buns just aren't bigger in there. I just don't understand,

742
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: like from a legal perspective, from like a logical argument perspective,

743
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: how this lawsuit would break down. Can't they just be like, yeah, no,

744
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,320
Speaker 1: we use smaller buns for the for the ads.

745
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 2: No, because if they already measured the meat and they're

746
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 2: telling you that the meat is half of what it

747
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 2: should be that's a real problem for me. I'm sorry, right,

748
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 2: you're no. And I also have to say, like it

749
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 2: just contributes to like America's like problem with like lying

750
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 2: about size, and it's like we don't really need to

751
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 2: do that, you.

752
00:41:58,280 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying.

753
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 2: It's like anyone are just bad lying, not just like

754
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 2: penis size obviously, but like height and stuff.

755
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 1: It's like all of it.

756
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 2: I'm like, please stop man bumbling me.

757
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why you always want your dating profile picture

758
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:18,439
Speaker 1: to like have something for scale in it, right, And

759
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 1: but that's what like, that's what I don't understand to

760
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 1: get next to a ruler, stand next to a ruler,

761
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 1: just like be standing under a basketball hoop or something like.

762
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: And that this just like the pictures that they are.

763
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 3: To be dunking.

764
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 2: If you're not dunking in your photo, I don't know

765
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 2: how tall you are. No, but no, I just care

766
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 2: about the lying jack.

767
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,320
Speaker 1: Okay dating site and not being able to dunk.

768
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 2: Embarrassing, embarrassing. You know, I taught myself how to dunk

769
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 2: before I started dating. I'm not I had to. It's

770
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 2: not gonna be out here in these streets dunk lists

771
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 2: are you?

772
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 1: Come on?

773
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 2: But I'm serious. Okay, this is my final point, my

774
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,919
Speaker 2: only point about the whopper situation, which is why lie

775
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 2: about your size, Like, I don't care if you are

776
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 2: five seven or a tiny burger, just tell me what

777
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:15,720
Speaker 2: you are. White castle it white Castle out here proud

778
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 2: being like these are tiny, shitty burgers, yeah, but are

779
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 2: addictive as hell. Fuck do you want a million of them?

780
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 2: And we're all like, yes, yes we do. Thank you

781
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 2: for telling us they're small and terrible. We love that

782
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 2: about it. So why is Wopper out here being like, oh,

783
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 2: I have a big title, I'm a whopper, and you're

784
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 2: just sneaking in with half the meat. Get out of here.

785
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 2: I was really passionate about it.

786
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:43,839
Speaker 1: Those we're all taken a back.

787
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 3: It's hard to it's hard to disagree. I mean, my

788
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:50,240
Speaker 3: take on this is maybe a little more boring, Like, Okay,

789
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 3: I get it, truth and advertising. I'm not especially upset

790
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 3: about it. I'm not especially surprised by. What I think

791
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 3: is so ludicrous is that it takes like some allowed

792
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 3: class action lawsuit to remedy this, Like why is there

793
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 3: not just shouldn't there just shouldn't a government just like

794
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 3: find them? Shouldn't it just be like, oh no, you lied,

795
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 3: Like like, isn't there like a simple or more streamlined

796
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 3: way to do this, Like when I'm a Burger department

797
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 3: burger the false burgers are. I mean, I wouldn't be

798
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,399
Speaker 3: against it. I don't want to, you know. I guess

799
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 3: the people argue by the size of government, but a

800
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 3: burgers are seems like a pretty cool job. That could

801
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 3: just be my my fascination with with Russian czars creeping in.

802
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 3: But I mean, if you are going too fast on

803
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 3: the highway, right, they just pull you over and they

804
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 3: give you a fucking ticket, Like it isn't. It isn't

805
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 3: an attorney who is coming up with a class of

806
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:48,320
Speaker 3: drivers who have been threatened and harmed by someone speeding

807
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:49,399
Speaker 3: too fast, Like.

808
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 1: He's just self evidently wrong.

809
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:54,800
Speaker 3: The process is crazy. I don't That's what was confused

810
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 3: me about this whole whopper thing. Although you know, God

811
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 3: bless them, good good luck getting getting me a free

812
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 3: life like coupon, because that's going to be the outcome

813
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 3: of all of this.

814
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's that.

815
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 2: And they're gonna maybe actually show the real ass sized

816
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:14,879
Speaker 2: burgers in the ads, which will be hilarious, I feel,

817
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 2: because they are so small and not good. They're not

818
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 2: going to make them be meteor that's ridiculous.

819
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 1: They'll just change the bun size, like that's the solution

820
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 1: of this whole thing, just because it doesn't matter for

821
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 1: your pictures.

822
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 2: It's about how much meat they say that they have.

823
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,399
Speaker 3: I mean, here's the thing, it's just the pictures, right.

824
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 3: The fact of matter is, I think you may disagree

825
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:39,319
Speaker 3: with me on this, Sophia. Whoppers are great. It's not

826
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 3: going to change anyone's buying behavior. It's just that the

827
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,760
Speaker 3: pictures they took made them look a little too big,

828
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 3: So yeah, silly pictures and give me a coupon.

829
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 1: And they're also shooting them from a low angle somehow, Burger,

830
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:57,720
Speaker 1: you're burger.

831
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 2: Fishing me, and you're telling me to accept it, Scott,

832
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 2: and I fucking refuse.

833
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 3: I'm not telling you accepted at all. I'm on your side.

834
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 3: I think that they should be punished, and I think

835
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:07,720
Speaker 3: the pictures should be more truthful.

836
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:12,359
Speaker 1: But and don't the pictures, like the pictures of the

837
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,879
Speaker 1: whopper are also like the main issue with them is

838
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 1: that it is taken from the perspective of a person

839
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 1: who is one and a half inches tall standing in

840
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:28,359
Speaker 1: front of a burger like that. No, they're so like you, Yeah,

841
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 1: it's standing in front of a little burger. And that's

842
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:35,839
Speaker 1: that's why where most of the illusion that's coming from.

843
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,359
Speaker 2: Now I know how this law suit is going to end.

844
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 2: They're going to add a sentence in the tiniest white

845
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:45,320
Speaker 2: font on all of the ads that says, the portrayal

846
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 2: of the burger in this ad is from the perspective

847
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 2: of a one and a half.

848
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I think that's what is tricking people.

849
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 2: Because they do that, you know, on makeup ads. You

850
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 2: guys probably don't know that, but like so before and

851
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 2: this I think is important to people who use miscara.

852
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 2: So everyone who uses Misscara is gonna be like, yes,

853
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:07,840
Speaker 2: I'm pretty mad about it too. So they used to

854
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 2: do these ads where like it'd be people putting on

855
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:11,879
Speaker 2: Miss Scarra and they'd be like, look at my huge

856
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 2: ass lashes and you'd be like, wow, cool, your MISCAA

857
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 2: really works. Yeah, And then people were like, hey, you

858
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,839
Speaker 2: can't just like have people have fake lashes and then

859
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 2: be like wow, this my scare really worried.

860
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: But you can see that, like that's pretty fucked up.

861
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,919
Speaker 2: That's pretty fucked up. So now when they have those

862
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 2: ads at the bottom, they have to say, like and

863
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 2: they do these lashes, I've been enhanced with the fake

864
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 2: lashes or whatever. So now you just know you're being

865
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 2: lied to every time. Yeah, welcome to America.

866
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 1: There you go. Well that's it. Just it feels very

867
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,839
Speaker 1: like quaint and adorable. This lawsuit, Like it's.

868
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:51,800
Speaker 2: Just like we needed a little break.

869
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 1: One of the first things that I was like, I

870
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,839
Speaker 1: just accepted that I was being lied to about is

871
00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 1: advertising like looks better than the actual thing. Like I

872
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 1: think it was the very first toy that I bought,

873
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 1: and it was like in the commercial, like there's dry

874
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 1: ice fog floating in as they like play with Skeletor's

875
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:18,959
Speaker 1: castle and like just amazing, like like actual moats dug

876
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 1: into this like styrofoam like land that they've created around this,

877
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 1: and you know, and then and then I get it

878
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 1: home and it was still an awesome toy, but it

879
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 1: wasn't as cool as what it looked like I'm on

880
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:31,280
Speaker 1: the TV.

881
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 2: So the hot wheels wasn't like burn and rubber. No, yeah,

882
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 2: it guitars fucking everywhere, like the micro machines.

883
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 3: You still speak at normal speed?

884
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:46,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, unfortunately. Yeah, I do feel like dry ice really

885
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 1: like if they're there, if they could create a safe

886
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 1: version of dry ice for children to play with, really

887
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 1: adds a lot of atmospheric It.

888
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 2: Makes anything cool as hell, really does dry ice, mini

889
00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 2: fog machine, whatever, whatever they.

890
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 1: Need to do. I sent a bath while you're taking

891
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 1: a bath.

892
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 2: That is the most metal thing I've ever heard of

893
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:08,240
Speaker 2: in my life.

894
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

895
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 3: I don't even have any idea what would happen? Would

896
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 3: you die, would it explode? What would happen?

897
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:14,760
Speaker 2: It would just slowly melt.

898
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 1: But while it smelts, I think it would like melt

899
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:19,359
Speaker 1: a little bit effect and there would be like some

900
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 1: fog just sitting on top on the surface of your bathtub.

901
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 1: Be cool, I think, I don't know, don't do it

902
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 1: at home with a child, but I will.

903
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 2: Do it on my own adult body that.

904
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 1: You do whatever the fuck you want, actually don't. Yeah,

905
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:37,839
Speaker 1: all right? Should we talk about the British Museum like this? Yes,

906
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:42,240
Speaker 1: we've talked about like England's little problem with going around

907
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:47,880
Speaker 1: stealing the worth or stealing like the greatest cultural treasures

908
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:52,319
Speaker 1: of every other country in the world, and just you know,

909
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 1: the British Museum is the most famous tourist attraction, grotesque

910
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 1: monument to colonial wealth in a place that is kind

911
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 1: of famous for that. But they are now the victim

912
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: of theft and it's a major scandal. In the UK,

913
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 1: two thousand treasures worth millions of pounds have seemingly been

914
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 1: stolen from the British Museum's collection, and a leading expert

915
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 1: in looted antiquities told the BBC the number of objects

916
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 1: lost from the museum was mind blowing, which is not

917
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:31,839
Speaker 1: a phrase I expected an expert in looted antiquities to use.

918
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 3: But I mean, the only expert in looted antiquities that

919
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:35,720
Speaker 3: I know is Indiana Jones.

920
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:39,240
Speaker 1: Indiana Jones, that's right, expert in looting.

921
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:42,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just want to say that, Like, first off,

922
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 2: that's a problem with like so many museums essentially, like

923
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 2: so much of the artist stolen. Yeah, and so much

924
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 2: of it belongs to completely different If we started distributing

925
00:50:56,320 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 2: it back, that would change literally the GDP of so

926
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 2: many countries.

927
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, can't have that the museum GDP.

928
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like no, just like so much tourism, people are

929
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 2: coming to see all of this stuff and it's all

930
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:16,320
Speaker 2: like concentrated in places that colonial that our colonialist fucking

931
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:20,720
Speaker 2: like you know, yeah, war chests or whatever the fuck.

932
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 2: Like they can't even display ever all of it. Yeah,

933
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 2: so the amount of greed is insane.

934
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So the museum was actually just because we're

935
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:34,880
Speaker 1: going to get to that because people have been asking

936
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 1: for it back and this is giving them, giving them

937
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 1: like a new reason to be like, Hey, you guys

938
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 1: like don't even know where the shit is that you

939
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 1: stole from us, Like what the fuck?

940
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:47,479
Speaker 2: But you don't even know how to plunder, right, Yeah,

941
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 2: you don't, like you can't keep track of your booty.

942
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 2: What the hell is wrong with you?

943
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 1: The museum was warned about the fact that like they

944
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:58,359
Speaker 1: were being robbed blind back in twenty twenty one by

945
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 1: an art dealer, and the museum blew him off and

946
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 1: ignored the warnings. The reason that the person had a

947
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 1: sense that they were being robbed is that their shit

948
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 1: kept showing up on eBay.

949
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 2: So this made me furious because the opening bids were

950
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 2: like fifty dollars and no one fucking bid. And it's

951
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 2: because no one on fucking eBay understands what this is.

952
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,760
Speaker 2: Like again, you don't even uh, this is so upsetting

953
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 2: It's like all of this could have just been given

954
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:30,359
Speaker 2: to the fucking people it belongs to. No one even

955
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:33,359
Speaker 2: wants it on stupid eBay, you fucking assholes. God, I'm

956
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:33,799
Speaker 2: so mad.

957
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:38,280
Speaker 1: So the museum fired prominent curator Peter Higgs, seemingly believing

958
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 1: him to be the thief, which he denies. But the

959
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 1: essence though, Yeah, the evice is crazy. First of all,

960
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 1: they like started showing all these things that were under

961
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 1: his purview, like that that he was curating kept showing

962
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:57,400
Speaker 1: up on eBay. And the eBay seller's name was the

963
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 1: same as Higgs's Twitter account.

964
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:04,280
Speaker 2: Man did not bother to make.

965
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 3: Handle.

966
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 1: His PayPal was linked to a bank account in the

967
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 1: name of Peter Higgs.

968
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 2: He is just out here signing his stealing. Yeah, like us,

969
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 2: he left to know being like XL XL Peter Higgs.

970
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, like what, It's totally insane. If I was eluded

971
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 3: antiquity stealer, I might borrow his handle and use it

972
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 3: as my eBay handle as a way of you know,

973
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 3: getting Scotland Yard off my tracks. But when the PayPal

974
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 3: account is linked to his yeah, exactly. It's like, well,

975
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 3: wait a minute, but we have an electronic record of

976
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 3: you are receiving the money, then then then I think

977
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 3: that then that's where.

978
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 1: It breaks down. His first response was probably how stupid

979
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 1: do you think I am? Like that, I would just

980
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 1: like use the same to account Sultan in nineteen sixty six,

981
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 1: you mad man. And then they're like, oh, also we

982
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 1: got like you're selling it and it's like the money's

983
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:11,240
Speaker 1: going directly into your bank account. And every time it does,

984
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 1: like we hear your phone make a little pitchang sound

985
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 1: like we've been tracking that the whole time we've been

986
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 1: having this meeting. Anyways, the museum itself is like the

987
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:30,799
Speaker 1: largest collection of stolen shit, like stolen property, and it

988
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 1: like most of it's not even on display. First of all,

989
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:36,479
Speaker 1: just one percent. So they have eight million.

990
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's one of the things that I'm incredibly furious about, right,

991
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 2: So only one percent.

992
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 1: Million objects is like in their possession eight million objects,

993
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 1: and they are able to show eighty thousand objects in total,

994
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:50,439
Speaker 1: which is like a lot. That's a that's a big

995
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 1: ass museum.

996
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 2: But they've got But you could literally even if you

997
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 2: were still going to be a person that is a

998
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 2: plunderer that was going to keep stuff, you could literally

999
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 2: keep that collection and give the rest of it away

1000
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 2: and still have a giant museum of stolen stuff.

1001
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:08,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's totally wild. I just I just this summer

1002
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 3: went to the British Museum with my family and had

1003
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:15,799
Speaker 3: a revelation about museums because this is not this isn't

1004
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 3: this doesn't have anything to do with ethics, guys. This

1005
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 3: has got to do with museum design. Because the British Museum,

1006
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 3: it only has one percent of its items, yes, but

1007
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 3: it also, like you said, has eighty thousand. Here here's

1008
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:33,760
Speaker 3: my take on that. Too many. It's too fucking big.

1009
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 2: That's how I feel about the lover. I also went

1010
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 2: to I'm like, how many fucking Jesus is can? I really?

1011
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:41,840
Speaker 2: I agree, you're exactly right.

1012
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 3: And here's here's the counter example. If you go to

1013
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:50,760
Speaker 3: see the crown jewels, right, I'm not a big jewel fan. Also,

1014
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:55,360
Speaker 3: those jewels totally stolen, not any ethically better. Here here's

1015
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 3: the thing. You walk into a room, there's fucking one thing.

1016
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 3: They're like, this is King Charles's old crown, and everybody

1017
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 3: looks at and it's like, oh okay. And then you

1018
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:07,360
Speaker 3: go into the next room and it's got like three scepters,

1019
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:10,799
Speaker 3: and it's like eight rooms big. Each thing has a

1020
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 3: manageable number of things. You're in and out in twenty minutes.

1021
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 3: It's my favorite museum in.

1022
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:15,240
Speaker 1: All of Europe.

1023
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:18,720
Speaker 3: You just you just just do some selecting, do some editing.

1024
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 3: For me as a museum goer.

1025
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:26,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like a fucking massive, like uncoordinated playlist where

1026
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 1: it's just like the shit just like chaos.

1027
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 2: It's just chaos, chaos.

1028
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 1: Just it's like, yeah, they like the artists, think about

1029
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:36,359
Speaker 1: the artists who originally made that, and it's like, yeah,

1030
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:39,360
Speaker 1: you're gonna be on the wall next to like three

1031
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:43,320
Speaker 1: other paintings that you like don't even exist when you've

1032
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 1: when you're painting this one, or you've just like never

1033
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:48,439
Speaker 1: heard of and like people are I don't know. Yeah,

1034
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:49,800
Speaker 1: it's a it's a fucking mess.

1035
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 2: Well. I also want to say that this reminds me

1036
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 2: of this. The New Yorker did a profile on Gagosian

1037
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 2: super recently that was by the way, Chef's kiss amazing fire, Like,

1038
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 2: do you know who he is? He's like the biggest

1039
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 2: art dealer, like his Gallerygosian, He's kind of like the

1040
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 2: art dealer guy, but he sells like art from the

1041
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 2: wealthy to the wealthy and basically has artificially changed the

1042
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 2: art market forever to where now things are worth millions

1043
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 2: of dollars that like, you know, weren't before. And some

1044
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 2: of it is like obviously good for an artist, but

1045
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 2: it's it's all artificial. He controls the market essentially. But

1046
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:38,439
Speaker 2: what I want to say is all of these rich

1047
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 2: people that buy these incredible like Basquiats, these incredible like

1048
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 2: paintings that we you know, would cry like I cried

1049
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 2: when I saw Basquiat paintings in real life, like things

1050
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 2: that would change people's lives to look at you know,

1051
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 2: where most of them sit. They sit in a temperature

1052
00:57:57,120 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 2: controlled warehouse in Switzerland where these rich people's planes just

1053
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:05,120
Speaker 2: like come drop them off and like leave forever. And

1054
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 2: then when these rich people kind of sell to each other,

1055
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 2: it's like it just goes for one place in that

1056
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 2: warehouse to another. Yeah, and that's it, and no one

1057
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 2: ever ever sees that art. And I feel like this

1058
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 2: is exactly that same vibe. It's like you just want

1059
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 2: to own it, to say that you own it, to

1060
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 2: feel like you're something, and to keep it from other

1061
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 2: people to keep it from being seen. That to me

1062
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 2: is like that's anathema, like you can't do that, or

1063
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 2: is the whole point of it is to be enjoyed?

1064
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, And the amazing thing is that, like, yeah, so

1065
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 1: the world just like spreading that eight eight million objects

1066
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 1: out across like the original nations where they've made, you know,

1067
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 1: like this is going to be such a better like

1068
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 1: the world will be a more beautiful place, and exactly

1069
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 1: the entire argument for like why they have it is

1070
00:58:55,280 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 1: like obviously completely insulting and like unbelievable that it was

1071
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 1: ever the argument, but now it's like completely you know, upended,

1072
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 1: which they were like the their reason for not returning

1073
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 1: the ship up to this point is that other countries

1074
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 1: would either not be able to care take care of

1075
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:19,440
Speaker 1: them or they would likely be stolen, which obviously doesn't

1076
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 1: hold water when you've got people in this country putting

1077
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 1: them on eBay, the calls.

1078
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:26,720
Speaker 2: Coming from inside the fucking house.

1079
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 1: So it's really like just Hartwig Fisher, one of the

1080
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 1: main heads of the thing, who they were like, hey,

1081
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure this is like one of your one

1082
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 1: of yours, and someone just sold it on eBay and

1083
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 1: he just ignored them for a couple of years, resigned

1084
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 1: in disgrace, but he argued that the removal and exhibition

1085
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 1: of these Greek marbles was elegenc The Elgin Marbles was

1086
00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:01,760
Speaker 1: itself a creative act in its own reg It wasn't stealing,

1087
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Speaker 1: it was like art the way that they took it

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Speaker 1: and putting.

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Speaker 2: My man just banks, try to bank see his way

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Speaker 2: out of stealing and selling cultural fucking artifacts on eBay,

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Speaker 2: Get out of here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and the guy who was selling all the shit

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Speaker 1: on eBay was in charge of the Elgin Marbles at

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Speaker 1: the time of everybody discovering the shit.

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Speaker 2: So and also when Peter Higgs got fired, right, he

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Speaker 2: got re hired immediately. Yeah, right, and like was just

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Speaker 2: in charge of some other art. Yeah, Like there's no

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Speaker 2: consequences for these fucking guys.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, it's almost like these institutions are elitist or

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Speaker 1: something almost true. Almost well, Scott, truly a pleasure having

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Speaker 1: you on the daily Geist. Where can people find you?

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Speaker 1: Follow you, hear you all that good stuff.

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Speaker 3: Well, the thing that's probably best for people to check

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Speaker 3: out is a podcast called Born to Love that I

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Speaker 3: co host with Ellie Kemper. Each week we bring on

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Speaker 3: celebrity guests to talk about something that they were born

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Speaker 3: to love, usually not related to their jobs. So we

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Speaker 3: had Al Roker to talk about how he loves barbecue,

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01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:11,120
Speaker 3: Christian Shall talking about how she loves close up magic.

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Speaker 3: My favorite was Zach Cherry. He is a very funny actor,

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Speaker 3: comedian and his and what he was born to love

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Speaker 3: is watching cable TV in hotel rooms.

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Speaker 1: So it's a fun.

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Speaker 3: It's a fun it's a fun eclectic podcast. I hope

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Speaker 3: you check it out. I'm on Twitter at at niscottecker

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Speaker 3: dot com, but nobody follows me, so there's no reason

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Speaker 3: for you two.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: That's not true.

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Speaker 1: Go check them out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, following you immediately.

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Speaker 1: And uh, is there a work of media that you've

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Speaker 1: been enjoying by any chance?

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Speaker 3: Well, I don't know if discounts as as a work

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Speaker 3: of media, but I've just gotten into just this week,

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Speaker 3: the New York Times Short Crossword, which is a tiny

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Speaker 3: little crossword. I hate long crosswords because I'm not smart

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Speaker 3: enough to do him. But in the four or five

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Speaker 3: that I've done this week, they make me feel smart

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Speaker 3: because it's like, oh, I can fill out this eight

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Speaker 3: question crossword you have.

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Speaker 2: Changed my mother fucking life. I did not know about this.

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Speaker 3: It's it's pretty fun. Did there's a little timer for

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Speaker 3: how fast you can do it, because the assumption is

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Speaker 3: that pretty much everyone's gonna be able to do it,

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Speaker 3: and so far it's worked out great for me. It's

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Speaker 3: five minutes. It's even less. It's less frustrating than wordle.

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Speaker 3: So New York Times crossword short class word?

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Speaker 2: Is it daily, Scott?

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Speaker 3: I believe it's daily.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's daily. Yeah, it's a blast.

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Speaker 3: Are you a short crossword of ficionado?

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Speaker 2: Jack?

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Speaker 1: I like a short crossword. I like a wordle. I

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Speaker 1: like the Monday crossword puzzle, the Monday lost easiest. It's

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Speaker 1: so easy, it's so fun.

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Speaker 3: But how long does it take you? Because it would

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Speaker 3: probably take me half an hour at least.

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Speaker 1: Takes me like fourteen fifteen minutes somewhere in there.

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Speaker 3: That's a reasonable period of time. This short crossword things

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Speaker 3: opened my eyes because if there were other games and

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Speaker 3: activities that took less than five minutes, Like if I

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01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:10,280
Speaker 3: could just play a five minute game of basketball, I

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01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:12,160
Speaker 3: think I'd be playing a lot more basketball.

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Speaker 1: I think they should just do that. That should be

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Speaker 1: what the NBA is from now on, just five minutes

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Speaker 1: sprint to like whoever you can get to ten first. Amazing, Sophia,

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Speaker 1: such a pleasure having you as so much guest co host.

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Speaker 1: Where can people find you? Follow you?

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Speaker 2: I'm at the Sofia so f I y a on

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01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:38,280
Speaker 2: Twitter and Instagram and of course you can listen to

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Speaker 2: me and Miles who is currently in Italy.

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Speaker 1: Are are we revealing that I don't know? Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he already revealed it on four twenty.

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Speaker 1: Okay, good.

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Speaker 2: Do you want me to say a different version so

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Speaker 2: that you can edit it out? I will say no, No,

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Speaker 2: I think that's the case. I mean, I'm not trying

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Speaker 2: to blow up a spot. He played the fun sucking

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Speaker 2: theme music of him going to Italy. Yeah, I'm pretty

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Speaker 2: sure the genies out.

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Speaker 1: There simply must. Yeah. He might have actually mentioned it

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Speaker 1: on this show.

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Speaker 2: I just but yeah, I appreciate you caring for him.

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Speaker 2: But once he brought the soundboard into it, I was like,

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Speaker 2: I think this is public.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, anyway, for.

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Speaker 2: Twenty Day Fiance, where we watched trash TV and talk

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Speaker 2: about it with Miles Gray. So check us out for

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01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:25,720
Speaker 2: twenty Day Fiance and all of the platforms.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yep. And is there a working media you've been enjoying?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was. I've been enjoying for a long time

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01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:37,680
Speaker 2: the fifty years of hip Hop thing on the New

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Speaker 2: Yorker because you can just click on each of the

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Speaker 2: rappers and it gives you a tiny little thing so

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Speaker 2: you can make your way through it forever. It's kind

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Speaker 2: of like a sharp short crossword. So whenever I'm like chilling,

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Speaker 2: I just have that pulled up on my phone and

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Speaker 2: I click on any of the rappers and I'm like okay,

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Speaker 2: and uh yeah. So it's pretty fun. Fifty years of

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Speaker 2: hip hop.

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Speaker 1: Let's see a tweet I've been in enjoy doing tarra

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Speaker 1: at Proltera tweeted. Everybody at this home depot is getting

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Speaker 1: hurricane supplies, except this one woman is buying the twelve

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Speaker 1: foot skeleton, and that reminded me it's twelve foot skeleton season.

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Speaker 1: I need to go get that ship. I'm gonna try

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Speaker 1: and get it this afternoon. But I like a person

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Speaker 1: in a Florida home depot as they're preparing for a

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Speaker 1: once in a generation storm getting getting the twelve foot skeleton.

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Speaker 3: Is the twelve foot skeleton one of those blowy ones

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Speaker 3: or is it because I'm imagining that a twelve foot

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Speaker 3: skeleton one that that blows around would be pretty fun,

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Speaker 3: you know.

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Speaker 2: Holy shit ideas.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like that's making that's making lemon lemonade out of

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Speaker 3: lemons right there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's a good point. Like I just be

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Speaker 1: worth weather testing, just like a get a time lapse

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Speaker 1: video of how the twelve foot skeleton holds up in

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Speaker 1: a generational storm?

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Speaker 2: Am I wrong? Or are we all picturing like inflatable?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: What I'm imagining, sure, I'm just imagining. Now that's the

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Speaker 3: the e MT and the rowboat with the like flooded neighborhood,

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Speaker 3: and then there's the one house with the several of

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Speaker 3: the twelve foot skeletons and twelve foot skeletons everyone inside water,

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Speaker 3: but the ems are delighted.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, days, the skeletons are smiling. I don't know why,

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Speaker 2: but I needed to make sure.

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Speaker 1: Everyone do that. Yeah, all right. You can find me

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Speaker 1: on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien. You can find us

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Speaker 1: on Twitter at daily Zeitgeist. We're at the Daily Zeitgeist

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Speaker 1: on Instagram. We have a Facebook fanpage and a website,

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Speaker 1: Daily Zeikeeist dot com, where we post our episodes and

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Speaker 1: our footnotes, where we link off to the information that

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Speaker 1: we talked about in today's episode, well as a song

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Speaker 1: that we think you might enjoy. Super producer Justin is

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Speaker 1: there a song that you think people might enjoy?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I just got back from spending all last week

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Speaker 4: in my hometown of Chicago to wind down the summer

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Speaker 4: and celebrate my birthday. And I want to put oh,

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Speaker 4: thank you so much, and I want to put all

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Speaker 4: y'all onto an amazing band who's made Chicago their new home.

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Speaker 4: I think they're originally from Madison, Wisconsin.

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Speaker 3: They're called Slow Pulp that's s l O W p

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Speaker 3: U LP.

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Speaker 4: And if you listen to like alt rock radio in

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Speaker 4: the mid to late two thousands, you'll probably feel pretty

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Speaker 4: nostalgic for these guys. You're kind of reminiscent of Paramore,

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Speaker 4: but they have more of like a grungy, low fi

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Speaker 4: indie rock type vibe that would sound perfect and like

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Speaker 4: an anime title sequence. But this song is called Slugs

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Speaker 4: and it's by Slow Pulpe and you can find that

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Speaker 4: song in the footnote.

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Speaker 1: Foot The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For

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Speaker 1: more podcasts from My Heart Radio, visit the iHeartRadio app,

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Speaker 1: Apple podcast, or wherever you listening your favorite shows. That

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Speaker 1: is going to do it for us this morning, back

1249
01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:56,160
Speaker 1: this afternoon to tell you what is trending, and we'll

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Speaker 1: talk to you all then bite