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Speaker 1: D Around the NFL Podcast is now. Patriots fans, welcome

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Speaker 1: back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Asis, and I'm joined by a

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Speaker 1: room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling and Greg Rosatal.

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Speaker 1: What's up, boys, Hey, Dan, I can tell you what

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Speaker 1: you guys could root for your Pats in your beautiful

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Speaker 1: little January and February. As long as the audience knows

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Speaker 1: who is the old US. Well, I don't agree with

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Speaker 1: the sentiment to begin with, I do you guys? Were

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Speaker 1: all you guys enjoy great football. You enjoyed them winning

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl last year, and ut you know you're

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Speaker 1: already turning your back potentially on the team of a

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Speaker 1: t L. So if if they happen to lose this weekend,

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Speaker 1: then you can go back to the Pats. Marxist. I'd

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Speaker 1: just like carrying that water, Dan, You do you up

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Speaker 1: down that hill? Uh? This is the Around the NFL Podcast,

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Speaker 1: Today's show is our blowout Championships Sunday preview, digging in

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Speaker 1: big time to the New England Patriots thrown up sleeves

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Speaker 1: at Denver Broncos, and of course the Arizona Cardinals against

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Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers. I just forgot who was playing in

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Speaker 1: the game. I don't know how that could have happened.

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Speaker 1: Breaking news. So we'll talk about those games in depth.

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Speaker 1: And we will also, because we haven't done it since

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Speaker 1: the beginning of the season, we'll throughout some sandwich wow

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Speaker 1: uh you know, go get my lunch, foul Demon. It's

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Speaker 1: the first time we've ever added some sandwich props before

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Speaker 1: we've even passed out the previous sandwiches. Puts Dan at

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Speaker 1: risk here because he was he was the winner really

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Speaker 1: among the regular season we were all kind of even,

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Speaker 1: and Dana's I told you my kryptonite is once we

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Speaker 1: get the draft season, don't know a damn thing. Uh So,

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Speaker 1: but I have a whole new strategy for that coming

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Speaker 1: up this spring to protect myself from another blood bath.

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Speaker 1: But I'm still confident about the sandwiches right now. Uh So,

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Speaker 1: we got that coming up. I'm sure I want a

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Speaker 1: foul demon touching a sandwich I would be about to eat.

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Speaker 1: Why you're not about to eat any sandwich? Well, I mean,

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Speaker 1: let's just say, whatever type of food I put my mouth,

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Speaker 1: the foul demon like mixing it up with his hands

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Speaker 1: before I eat it sounds a little bit suspicious. There

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Speaker 1: was there was a funny part going back to the

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Speaker 1: dinner with the Sessler's and Babs uh where since Mark

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Speaker 1: going to maybe take the lead to honor the appetizers.

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Speaker 1: oddest scenario ever the market order for everyone because he

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Speaker 1: So it's like, you guys eat that? I think that

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Speaker 1: wasn't Yes, Cheesecake Factory, known for its daring inventive Well,

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Speaker 1: so many, so many problems with this proposition. Think one, Mark,

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Speaker 1: some Yeah, let's not. Let's not get haughty quite yet.

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Speaker 1: This this show is also first use of haughty since

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Speaker 1: Casey at the Bat because the show is sponsored by

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Speaker 1: show as well as the Sunday wrap up show, both

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Speaker 1: on YouTube, so you check that out. I believe it's

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Speaker 1: on NFL now as well. Right, who really knows? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: bring in our good friend and colleague, Um wearing a

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Speaker 1: working a basketball game tonight. What do you do with hustle?

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Speaker 1: You like that guy for referee for Brandon Power. He's

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Speaker 1: all the seven spots have been filled, that we have

427
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Speaker 1: thirty two coaches to choose from top five hot is

428
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 1: five to one. Well, I mean, let's let's start right here.

429
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,399
Speaker 1: We lost the shake up. All the firings took some

430
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 1: talent out of the race because you lose Dan Campbell,

431
00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:22,199
Speaker 1: who was probably number one for me, very hot, uh

432
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,880
Speaker 1: Lovey Smith, attractive man, he's gone Mike Petton from sort

433
00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,520
Speaker 1: of an action hero type away. You've always thought Mike

434
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,240
Speaker 1: Petton's attractive. He looks like a big dumb animal. Oh

435
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:35,280
Speaker 1: well that also Mark has strange has strange dacy here

436
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:41,000
Speaker 1: like big muscle bound men. Are you a big seen

437
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 1: Not really? I mean, what's your favorite scene in pul

438
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:47,639
Speaker 1: He's basically describing West. That's the type of man. Like

439
00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:52,159
Speaker 1: that's true. That's an assumption anyway, So you're looking for

440
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 1: my top five alright, number five? Is it? Do we

441
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,399
Speaker 1: have a little drum roll? Do we have a little

442
00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:02,280
Speaker 1: uh Tim timpany, Tim Tim Timpanty timpany did we ever

443
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 1: get the correct pronunciation on that? It's timpany. Timpany, thank you,

444
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,720
Speaker 1: that's the jewelry company. Let me let me dial it

445
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 1: up here, give me just a say. One of my

446
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 1: favorite things is to put Sydney on the spot. She

447
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,920
Speaker 1: loves it. Yeah, I love it so much. Here it

448
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 1: is right, all right. Consulted a little bit with a

449
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,240
Speaker 1: very handsome man, handsome Hank on this. By the way,

450
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 1: So tied at number five, we have Oakland's Jack del

451
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 1: Rio and Gus Bradley of the jail. You have no

452
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,360
Speaker 1: do you know how timpany works? By the way, that's

453
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:33,680
Speaker 1: for number one. Ah, goodness, creation, I'm just doing this,

454
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 1: I'm told by the way. Oh down the middle, Cessler

455
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,159
Speaker 1: has to make his top five into top six. He

456
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:42,199
Speaker 1: just can't bear to break Gus Bradley, that is. I

457
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 1: even had to squeak Gus Bradley in there. Alright, So

458
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:49,879
Speaker 1: got some great and Jack Jaguars always have to get

459
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,160
Speaker 1: the positive, shall we four? John here? Yeah? Four? Okay

460
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 1: for Mike Tomlin, especially when he has the aviators visor

461
00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:01,159
Speaker 1: look very very strong if you check that out. Number

462
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,440
Speaker 1: three is Doug Peterson earlier drafted this. Have my boy,

463
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 1: Todd Bowles. We had Todd Bowls in there, but I

464
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,639
Speaker 1: discussed with Henry and Henry Gami some behind the scenes

465
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 1: information that he's gained a lot of weight and that

466
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,360
Speaker 1: you have to look at the entire package and it's

467
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 1: not what it was last summer. It's a little work

468
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 1: to do on the Todd Bowles front. Number three, No,

469
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,960
Speaker 1: that about fat shaming. That's not fat shaming. He's not

470
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 1: at his potential. Doug Peterson number three, ahead of Tomlin. Yeah. Wow,

471
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:33,399
Speaker 1: well again, it's just my opinion with yours would be different.

472
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 1: Number two Dallas Cowboys coach Jason Garrett. Now I agree,

473
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 1: he kind of looks like Damian Lewis. That's where I

474
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,680
Speaker 1: bet if you're pulling the average woman, where where a

475
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:49,920
Speaker 1: year poll goes wildly off. Well, I'm not discussing with women.

476
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 1: I'm with you on this one. I think women, Thank yous.

477
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 1: That's a ridiculous pick. All right, Well, can we he is?

478
00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 1: Have you ever actually if you meet him in person, though,

479
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,160
Speaker 1: he is someone that looks better, much better in person.

480
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,679
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's cost about this, you know, the confidence and

481
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:11,400
Speaker 1: now number one and market it alright, number one. Sometimes

482
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,680
Speaker 1: I have actually fought for this franchise to be deep

483
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 1: six so we could build the old Mouser. But it

484
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 1: is Baltimore's John Harbor. Harb is a handsome guy. Text

485
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 1: John Harbor. Also, if you look at the list of coaches,

486
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 1: you have a you look like a to sour lemon, Greg.

487
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,880
Speaker 1: But like if you look at the list of coaches,

488
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 1: were at a low point for attractive coaches. Can I

489
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 1: give you one quote that handsome hand gave me on

490
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,879
Speaker 1: Bill belichis because you know he he was arguing that

491
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick is a sexy beast. He told me because

492
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,439
Speaker 1: of the power he wields. Can I retort that with

493
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,360
Speaker 1: a quote of my own from Connor Or on Slack yesterday?

494
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 1: I am sitting here watching Bill Belichick's press pots, staring

495
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:57,400
Speaker 1: at the pockets of fatness jowls. Well, why is what's

496
00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,879
Speaker 1: going on with the fat shaving about? That's what? I

497
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,640
Speaker 1: don't think that Belichick is specially fat for his age

498
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 1: at all. But I think what what Dan's getting at,

499
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 1: or the power thing that you were talking about, Rather,

500
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 1: I think that's that's the sort of intangible that Jason

501
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 1: Garrett lacks, and I think John Harbot might lack Mark.

502
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 1: Maybe in the off season we can dig into the

503
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:21,920
Speaker 1: top five front office figures. Maybe somebody will make that list.

504
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:30,920
Speaker 1: I don't know, ladies and jem Well, you talk about

505
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,399
Speaker 1: power being a Lorian, he does have power over the

506
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 1: fifty three man roster, which I think elevates him certainly

507
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,640
Speaker 1: from where he would have been in any previous time.

508
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:42,880
Speaker 1: So the Sashi's a is he sort of an interesting candidate.

509
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 1: Let's uh, there you go. So there's Mark. A trip

510
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 1: into Mark's mind always a fun journey. You never know

511
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 1: where it will lead. Let's move on to the championship

512
00:26:52,160 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 1: preview of the two games Championship Sunday. That's pretty good worked.

513
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,919
Speaker 1: Uh so let's start. Let's go and order the games,

514
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 1: guys and really have some fun with his dig in

515
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:11,640
Speaker 1: and we'll start, of course. Uh in Denver, where the

516
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 1: Broncos the number one seed in the a f C,

517
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,919
Speaker 1: A team that um ended up stealing that number one

518
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 1: seed from the Patriots, and the Patriots finished slow in

519
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 1: December when they were dealing with some injury issues and

520
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 1: and what have you. But the Patriots team that beat

521
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 1: the Chiefs this past weekend looked a lot more like

522
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 1: the Patriot team that seemed to be potentially looking to

523
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 1: threaten to go sixteen and oh again. So I'm sure

524
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 1: as the Denver Broncos watched game tape they got a

525
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:45,160
Speaker 1: little noivous at that prospect um. These teams faced off

526
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,399
Speaker 1: once before in the regular season. It was a great

527
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 1: Sunday night game. Uh, one of the best prime time

528
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 1: games of the year. It was a game in which

529
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 1: Rob Gronkowski suffered a knee injury but survived it almost miraculously.

530
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 1: And I believe Eve that was the game that the

531
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,439
Speaker 1: Broncos won the c. J. Anderson touchdown, right, That's correct.

532
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,959
Speaker 1: They were down fourteen nothing in that game. They had

533
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 1: a big fourth quarter comeback. Was really one of the

534
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 1: games of the year. And then Brady got the game

535
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 1: tying drive without Gronk not going on in that game.

536
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:16,679
Speaker 1: Great game, So we gotta rematch of that game. That's

537
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 1: a lot of fun. The difference, of course, the big

538
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 1: difference between those games. Brock Oswiler was the quarterback for

539
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,439
Speaker 1: Denver then and now it's Peyton manning the sheriff with

540
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 1: one last chance against Tom Brady. Potentially this could be it,

541
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 1: uh we uh, the kissing corner, kissing cousins corner is

542
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 1: UH of the opinion that the Patriots are going to

543
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 1: roll no problem in this game, and I think a

544
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 1: lot of people agree with West and Mark. I believe

545
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 1: Greg and myself, I think this is gonna be a

546
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 1: real game. Let's start with you, Greg, Why do you

547
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 1: think that the Broncos should not be overlooked in this game?

548
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 1: Because I give the Broncos the edge up front, really

549
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball, especially when the Patriots

550
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 1: have the ball. Now, Tom Brady can get rid of

551
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 1: the ball so quickly that it's not a problem. But

552
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 1: that's one of the things you noticed when you go

553
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 1: back and watch that game. Everyone said, well Edelman and

554
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: Avendola they weren't there. Well, neither it was DeMarcus Ware.

555
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 1: And the things that haven't changed are the lines and

556
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 1: Derek Wolfe eight. Uh. The Patriots centers lunched throughout that game.

557
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 1: Von Miller didn't have a huge game UH in Week twelve,

558
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 1: but I think him and DeMarcus Ware present a lot

559
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 1: of problems for the Patriots. The Denver running game, on

560
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: the other hand, also did very very well against the

561
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 1: Patriots throughout that game. They run for a hundred seventy

562
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 1: three yards. It really picked up late. But when I

563
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 1: watched it again this week on the coach if they

564
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 1: didn't have Ronnie Hillman as their starter, if they have

565
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 1: better running backs, they could have run for about two

566
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 1: sixty They were moving people, and that worries me as

567
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 1: a Patriots fan. That's the number one thing that worries

568
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 1: me is that the Broncos are gonna have a consistent

569
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 1: running game throughout the day. And that's why I think

570
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 1: it's a really even match up. If you've got a

571
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 1: little bit of an edge up front on both sides

572
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: of the ball, you're gonna have a chance. It's my

573
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 1: belief and can tension. It has been my belief. Once

574
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 1: Julian Edelman, Danny Amendola, and Rob Gronkowski all got healthy,

575
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 1: you're going to see the Patriots from September through mid November.

576
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 1: And I think that's exactly what we saw against the Chiefs.

577
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna roll. And it's also my belief

578
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 1: in contention that the Broncos were a dominant defense in

579
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 1: the first half of the season compared to the two

580
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 1: thousand and Ravens other great defenses. They have not been

581
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 1: that defense over the past two months. And with Chris

582
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 1: Harris playing with one arm and the Patriots being a

583
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 1: run after the catch team, this is a horrible matchup

584
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,959
Speaker 1: for the Broncho. You're exactly right, though, when they have Amundola,

585
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 1: Gronk and Edelman their tend to know this season, and

586
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 1: Denver's defense gave up some big plays last week. I

587
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 1: mean that's I could see that happen again. New England

588
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 1: did not throw deep what once all game. They threw

589
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 1: it over fifteen yards three times. And what you said

590
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 1: for the passing game is true, West, But I don't

591
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 1: think you can just ignore the fact that the team

592
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 1: in September in October had Dion Lewis and Legarrett Blunt.

593
00:30:58,160 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 1: And now if they make it to the Super Bowl,

594
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 1: they might be the worst team that ever made it

595
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl. In terms of running the ball,

596
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 1: it will be they have no running game. It is

597
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 1: the worst Patriots running game I've ever seen, and it's

598
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: it's actually worse than the statistics. Who was who was

599
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 1: playing so great at running back the last time these

600
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 1: two teams met, no one. I mean, you had le

601
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 1: Garrett Blunt and the Patriots controlled that game until a

602
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: bad punt returning Rob that's not a hundred and seventy

603
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 1: five yards. They were in complete control. It's just a

604
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 1: weird thing to cite when the Patriots didn't win the game,

605
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 1: that's all and and right. But you realize that random

606
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 1: weird punt return because their punt returner was injured. But

607
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 1: but then you can't cite that because they're not the

608
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: same team if they had a better running game, be

609
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: a horribly banged up Patriots team, which is materially different

610
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 1: than the Patriots team now. But I think a lot

611
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: of a lot of what I see that those teams

612
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: haven't changed. And I think when I watched it, I

613
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 1: got this and it didn't feel like an uneven game.

614
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 1: The Patriots defense started out well. It was a field

615
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 1: position game where they took advantage of two really short fields.

616
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 1: I mean, one of the Patriots touchdowns they started the

617
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 1: ball at the ten, the other one they started the

618
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: ball at the forty. So they made some big plays

619
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 1: and special teams in defense, and it wasn't like the

620
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 1: Patriots looked like a superior team. When you get out

621
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: gained by a hundred and sixty yards and eighty of

622
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: your yards is on a nice path to a running

623
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 1: back that was James White, who had an eight yard touchdown.

624
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: In that place, it didn't feel like these are two

625
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: uneven teams. I think they're two really good teams. I

626
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 1: my whole case is that the Broncos are a legitimate

627
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 1: top five team that they belonged to be here in

628
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 1: this weekend. That that's my only argument. I think the

629
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 1: Patriots are a great team. My my feeling, at least

630
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 1: in this group, and tell me if I'm wrong, Western Mark,

631
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 1: is that you guys believe that the Broncos are a

632
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 1: good team, but you believe at this stage Peyton Manning

633
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 1: is such a liability that it's going to lead this

634
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 1: to this game single handedly being lopsided. I believe what

635
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: I said five minutes ago. Then the defense isn't dominant anymore,

636
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 1: and that Peyton Manning is a liability when you can

637
00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: bind those two teams. I don't think they're a tough,

638
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: live team. I think they got lucky to play a

639
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 1: really banged up Steelers team and that's why they're here.

640
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: I don't know about lopsided, but I do believe that

641
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 1: New England will win and it won't resemble the game

642
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 1: they played two years ago in the ANFC Championship and

643
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 1: the big difference. The big difference is that the quarterback

644
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: has changed for Denver. Now, Statistically, Manning and Oswidler aren't

645
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 1: starkly different by the end of Oswiler's run. But I

646
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 1: I guess for me watching Denver last week, I just

647
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 1: found that dull offense, very limiting. And I know we've

648
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 1: had disagreements about that, but I believe that Brady brings

649
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 1: so much to New England. We can still absolutely almost

650
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: win a game on his own, but he doesn't have

651
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 1: to because he has Edelman back. They've got their wide

652
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 1: receivers back, They've got a passing game again. They're limited

653
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 1: as a running team, but I just look at New

654
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 1: England is the better team. I agree. My big question

655
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 1: no one seems to be talking about this week is

656
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 1: what what are we getting out of Jamie Collins and

657
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: Chandler Jones. Jamie Collins did not play the second half

658
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 1: of that game last week. Chandler Jones was injured and

659
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: ineffective in that game in and out of the game.

660
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 1: That is not a small thing to consider. Those are two,

661
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 1: really of the three key players on the defense, along

662
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 1: with donte Hyower, who is playing out standing right now?

663
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 1: Is the best players on the defense? What's the update

664
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,320
Speaker 1: on Jamie Colin. They had a walk through on Wednesday,

665
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 1: and I think that was a reflection of what I

666
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,240
Speaker 1: talked about after last week's game. The eighty nine plays,

667
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 1: I think has Belichick freaked out. I have never seen

668
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 1: them do a walkthrough on a Wednesday. They are basically

669
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,879
Speaker 1: almost taking this week pretty light in practice. I think

670
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 1: to get everyone healthy. They were at the walk through.

671
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:29,280
Speaker 1: But I don't I don't know what I don't forget

672
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:33,720
Speaker 1: our boy, best defensive free agent signing of the off season.

673
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 1: So we know the Broncos aren't playing as good on

674
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 1: defense in recent weeks. Peyton Manning obviously is not close

675
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 1: to the same player used to be. What is a

676
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 1: weakness on the Patriot side of the ball other than

677
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 1: the running game that maybe the Broncos can exploit. I

678
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 1: look at their offensive line. I mean, yes, you know

679
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: when they talk about all these combinations they've done, some

680
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 1: of them are just earlier in the year, were inventive.

681
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: I mean, it's things they do with their line. But

682
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 1: they lost when they lost Bryan Stork last week. If

683
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 1: they lose one or two guys you've got issues. And

684
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 1: it's what the third no sacks that Brady's taken in

685
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,479
Speaker 1: his career was this season. So you put the past

686
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: rushing power of Denver against this line, that's trouble. Puts

687
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: a problem though if you're Denver, is that Brady gets

688
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 1: the ball out so quickly. That's that's what they do,

689
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 1: that quick passing game. If it really it would have

690
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: to be a tandem effort with Denver secondary locking down

691
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,399
Speaker 1: those receivers near the line of scrimmage. And but here's

692
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 1: the thing. I mean, I'm sure they you know, we

693
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 1: got son of bum up there in Denver, right, you

694
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: get you know? I mean, I want to be surprised

695
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: if Phillips had a scheme that could work here. Um.

696
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 1: I don't know if the Patriots gonna score a lot

697
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,240
Speaker 1: of points in this game. I know, maybe the Broncos

698
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 1: defense isn't as good, But I do trust in the

699
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 1: defense and the coordinator, and I do think that this

700
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 1: game is gonna be relatively low scoring. That's my prediction.

701
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 1: Bryan Stork had a big problem with Derek wolf The

702
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 1: last time he played Derek Wolfe had a great game.

703
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 1: That contract they just gave him is gonna look like

704
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 1: a bargain. He just absolutely destroyed that Dealers too. So

705
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: that's that's where I have the problem now that again

706
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 1: he's limited. He returned to the game, came back, He

707
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: came back to the game last week, so again another

708
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: key player. I think if Denver is going to make

709
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: a case, it's just that their overall talent is really good.

710
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: I mean, they have a lot of players on both

711
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 1: sides of the ball. De Marius Thomas, Manuel Sanders a

712
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 1: keep to leave von Miller, DeMarcus where it's it's like

713
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 1: a lot of guys who can make a play, and

714
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 1: you've got the coaching and the quarterback. Are obviously huge

715
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 1: advantages for the Patriots. I totally agree that the Broncos

716
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 1: have the talent, and you look at their defense and

717
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 1: wonder why they haven't been dominant for the past couple

718
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,879
Speaker 1: of months. DeMarcus wears injury. DeMarcus wears injury is part

719
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 1: of that. And I really think that Chris Harris injury

720
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: is huge. He got picked on last week, and Edelman

721
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 1: is the guy in theory he would be covering. Which

722
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 1: is the game? Now, Mark, you start us off, this

723
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,320
Speaker 1: is going to be I don't agree with lopsided. I

724
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 1: do think New England's gonna win, and it's going to

725
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: be twenty eight to eighteen in an interesting game. New

726
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 1: England Patriots. I feel like we do this a lot.

727
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:06,720
Speaker 1: I've got Patriots seventeen. I'm always that seems I'm sweating

728
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: it out in the fourth quarter. Probably what happened to

729
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 1: the old quarterback that should be in a retirement home

730
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, this game is gonna be close. Defense.

731
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 1: I think you're also Broncos have a terrible defense and

732
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 1: a quarterback that should be eating tapioca. I haven't seventeen

733
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 1: is a comfortable with I didn't say they have a

734
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 1: terrible defense, first of all, and so you got you

735
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 1: know in your say, if you talk like that, you

736
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 1: might as well throw out. Didn't you listen to what

737
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: we've said? You're at least is how we feel. And

738
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 1: I actually think eighteen is not that close. That's you

739
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 1: lost by ten points at home. I like the tribute

740
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 1: that you stuck them with the number eighteen his uniform number.

741
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 1: I didn't even try to think, um, the Patriots will

742
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 1: win this game. I try to talk myself into the

743
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,439
Speaker 1: Broncos stealing it. I couldn't quite do it. I would

744
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,439
Speaker 1: love to see it happen, of course, but I think

745
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 1: in a close game, a defensive battle, um, it will

746
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: be a seventeen fourteen New England win. Yeah, I've got

747
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 1: a very similar type of game. Seventeen Patriots win it,

748
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 1: and I think their defense will make some places. It's

749
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 1: in Denver, and I think that's a big deal. Really,

750
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 1: what's the weather looking like. It's looking warm. There's an

751
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: outside chance there could be some precipitation, but it's probably

752
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 1: in the low fifties or in the middle of the forties.

753
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 1: It's not that's good man, that's going to be a

754
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 1: cold game, don't sor you're like big weather man words

755
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: around us precipitation about rain, how about snow and sleep?

756
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 1: But they're not sure. You never know, might get cold

757
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: as the night comes in, might change a little wintry

758
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: mix y, a move that you have to do when

759
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: you're a weather man. Yeah, that's true. All right, let's

760
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,320
Speaker 1: move out to the lake game. This will kick off

761
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:55,319
Speaker 1: at six forty the Arizona Cardinals. Yes, the team of

762
00:38:55,920 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 1: around the NFL. A beautiful season. They're having it coming

763
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,879
Speaker 1: off that uh wonderful game on Saturday Night to win

764
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 1: over the Packers in overtime. Now they survived that and

765
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 1: they head to Carolina to face the Panthers. And the

766
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 1: Panthers have been on a glorious run for four straight months.

767
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 1: They are now sixteen in one uh they are undefeated

768
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 1: at home this season. They hung a thirty one burger

769
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:31,240
Speaker 1: on Burger Listen and you do it in one half.

770
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 1: It is a big old burger ond the withfending Super

771
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: Bowl or conference champions two times running. Yes, they they bite,

772
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 1: their butts got tight in the second half and they

773
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 1: probably shouldn't have done that, and they ended up winning

774
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 1: only by seven points. But the point was made at

775
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 1: that point that the Panthers were the better team and

776
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 1: they just dominated that game when it mattered. And now

777
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 1: they get the Cardinals. So here we go, guys, West,

778
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 1: I'll start with you on this. This to me, and

779
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people will agree, is the

780
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 1: game of the day. If you have to choose between

781
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 1: them two great teams, I think the winner of this

782
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: game will have a good chance to be the super

783
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 1: Bowl favorite. Once the guys of the Desert chime in,

784
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,800
Speaker 1: maybe spice rack your thoughts of this game. It feels

785
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:14,760
Speaker 1: like we've been on a collision course for this game

786
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,720
Speaker 1: all year. The last three Coach of the Year awards

787
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 1: in this game combined regular season wins between the two

788
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 1: teams and the most by two playoff teams since two

789
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 1: thousand four. These this will be the first postseason game

790
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: of the Super Bowl era with two teams averaging thirty

791
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: points a game. And then they ranked first and second

792
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,800
Speaker 1: in total points, point differential, takeaways, points off at takeaways.

793
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 1: These have been the two best teams in the NFL

794
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 1: all year and to the two best quarterbacks along with

795
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,839
Speaker 1: Tom Brady. That that's probably why Peyton Manning sticks out

796
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 1: so much. As you've got the three best all season,

797
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 1: and oh, by the way, you have two of the

798
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 1: best defenses of the year all season, and that I'm

799
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: kind of wondering who's gonna be more aggressive, I guess

800
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 1: would be the way I would put it, because in theory,

801
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,720
Speaker 1: Carolina likes to get creative. They they they're not afraid

802
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 1: to blitz, and they did it a little bit against

803
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 1: Seattle last week, and and at times it burned them.

804
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 1: They got, you know, defenders behind them, and that's what

805
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,320
Speaker 1: I'd be worried about if I was Carolina this week

806
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 1: when you have Robert McCain is playing every snap, Courtland

807
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 1: Finnigan is playing every snap. Kurt Coleman got injured in

808
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 1: Week seventeen, and he has had his worst two games

809
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,839
Speaker 1: of the season back to back. If they had not,

810
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 1: if they had blown that lead, he would have been

811
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 1: probably the biggest reason why. And he's been a big

812
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 1: asset to them throughout the year. And that's why I

813
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 1: think this matchup is terrible for Carolina because if they

814
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 1: have any weakness as an entire team on either side

815
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,760
Speaker 1: of the ball, they don't really have a great natural

816
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: outside pass rush, and now they're a little thin in

817
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 1: the secondary. And what team, if you give them a

818
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,240
Speaker 1: little time, can throw it deep any better than Cam Newton.

819
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 1: I mean, then Carson Parl. Probably the only answer is

820
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 1: Cam Newton. These are the two best vertical throwing teams

821
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: in the entire league. He may have to, I mean it,

822
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 1: what what happened over the last couple of weeks sta

823
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 1: Arizona's ground game. I think it is a concern because

824
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 1: you ask arians why it happened. Sixty seven total yards

825
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 1: on the ground in Week seventeen, and the in the

826
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 1: wild card game combined, and he basically said it, we

827
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 1: got our ass kicked up front, and so now you

828
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,800
Speaker 1: have to deal with Star Luda Lailey and Kaen Short.

829
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's right. There is one of the

830
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 1: best tandems in the league, and it's if you can't

831
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 1: get the run game going on the road here, I'd

832
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 1: be a little concerned about you. It's all on your

833
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: It's all on Carson Palmer at that point, and he's

834
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:30,919
Speaker 1: it can't be the Carson Palmer we saw for three

835
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,720
Speaker 1: quarters of last week. These are the two matchups to watch.

836
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 1: Thirty straight games of a hundred yards for the Panthers,

837
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,760
Speaker 1: the most since the mid seventies Steelers on the ground,

838
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 1: and they have I mean, we used to pick on

839
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,919
Speaker 1: Mike Shula, but they've got I heard Brian Bollinger say

840
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 1: that no offensive coordinator has crafted his offense around one

841
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 1: player as well as Mike Scholes around Cam Newton, and

842
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 1: Cam is the key to the running game because of

843
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 1: his ball handling and his tricks in his fakes. And

844
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: then on the other side of the ball, like Greg said,

845
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 1: the Panther secondary and you've got three really good wide

846
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 1: receivers for for the Cardinals. That is a huge advantage

847
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 1: for Arizona. I love, I love John Brown to have

848
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 1: a big game here because or Larry Fitzgerald could too.

849
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 1: You've got Courtland Finnigen maybe on him, but John Brown,

850
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 1: who's sometimes playing from the slot, gets up the middle

851
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:19,919
Speaker 1: of that defense. If I'm a Panthers fan, that that's

852
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 1: the thing that would worry me more than anything I think. Um.

853
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 1: I think Jerry Rice might disagree, but I have a

854
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 1: note here in our two thousand fifteen season Conference Championship

855
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 1: research notes, in eight career playoff games, Larry Fitzgerald has

856
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: averaged a hundred and fourteen receiving yards per game and

857
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,919
Speaker 1: scored ten touchdowns. That's an eight games. He's the only

858
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 1: player in NFL history a minimum three games to average

859
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 1: a hundred plus receiving yards and one plus touchdown per

860
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 1: game in the playoffs. That is the guy you want

861
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,839
Speaker 1: to go to war with in January, Marong, let me

862
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 1: give you an asterisk that makes that stad even more impressive.

863
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: That includes last year's game with Ryan Linley, who only

864
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 1: had seventy something yards of total offense. You should we

865
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 1: should throw that game out, like totally from society. It

866
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 1: never happened, never happened. I was surprised looking through this

867
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 1: research note uh this week the research back. I'm not

868
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 1: gonna not gonna raise it up or anything. What did

869
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 1: you say that would be slightly derivative? Anyone check with

870
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 1: me before what I have to check with you before,

871
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:33,359
Speaker 1: Ich th this is for the entire NFL network. It's

872
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 1: distributed that it's not just for Dan Handen. I thought

873
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 1: Greenholtz and his team just made it for me. No,

874
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 1: look at this, and you're not the only one. I

875
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 1: can lift it up. Drop ro. No one's gonna give

876
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 1: me ro. I was really surprised what I read this year.

877
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: Kim Newton nine touchdowns, one interception when he's throwing the

878
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 1: ball over twenty five yards, by far the best in

879
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 1: the league. Carson Palmer actually had more interceptions than touchdowns

880
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,240
Speaker 1: on those vertical throws, which was which was very surprised

881
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 1: because I think of Carson Palmer as that's his thing,

882
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,439
Speaker 1: that he's always going to be aggressive, and he hits

883
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 1: more low percentage throws than just about anyone. But but

884
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 1: if you combine those numbers and consider the fact that

885
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 1: Ted Ginn has dropped more deep passes than any player

886
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 1: in the league. It is. It is really remarkable the

887
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 1: type of season that Cam Newton's having. And I'm gonna

888
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 1: pick the Cardinals in this game. But if it's the

889
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 1: easy argument for the Panthers, I mean, there's a there's

890
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 1: a lot of things. They're just a great team. But

891
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 1: this is an epic guy having an epic season. He's

892
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 1: at home. He's the best, you know, running quarterback of

893
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 1: all time. He's having an unbelievable year throwing, and he

894
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 1: could just be an all time great. That's gonna have

895
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 1: an all time great. Two touchdowns and one pickovers last

896
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 1: nine games. He's one of the best quarterbacks this season

897
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:55,320
Speaker 1: against the Blitz and if touchdown five rushing touchdowns that

898
00:45:55,800 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 1: my research notes, did you guys research well, but you

899
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 1: know that he's been building that it's not he's been

900
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:07,399
Speaker 1: for for weeks and weeks, and they Patrick Peterson said

901
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 1: it that this is They went ahead and you'd go

902
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 1: from dealing with Aaron Rodgers last week to a completely

903
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: different type of quarterback where the healing He had three

904
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 1: rushing yards last week Cam Newton. But the idea that

905
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 1: could happen at any time is so such preoccupies your

906
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 1: defense to such a degree that it's a major nuisance.

907
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 1: And you could say that for literally whoever they were

908
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 1: playing last week, seeing Cam Newton the next week, there's

909
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 1: nobody like the guy. He's an absolute beast. And you know,

910
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 1: here's the difference between these two quarterbacks. Whereas and maybe

911
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 1: I'm a little more hung up out it than others,

912
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 1: But while I was genuinely a little freaked out by

913
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 1: Carson Palmer's performance last week, I have seen no hints

914
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 1: that in this special season, like Greg saying that Cam

915
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 1: Newton is gonna let down in this spot in his

916
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 1: building if the game's on the line and he has

917
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 1: a chance to lead his team to win. I just

918
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 1: it's hard for me to picture him falling up, falling

919
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:02,240
Speaker 1: short unless something crazy happens, you know, whether it's injury

920
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 1: or you know, some flukey special teams or defensive like

921
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 1: a ball gets tipped. I just think this is Cam

922
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: Newton's season and as great as the Cardinals on and are,

923
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 1: and I respect them as the two of a t

924
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 1: n the Panthers, to me, this has been a special

925
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 1: season all year long, and I can't I can't pick

926
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 1: against them. I think that's a fair assessment to be

927
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: more confident in the Panthers because of Cam Newton's level

928
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 1: of absolute confidence and the Carson Palmer didn't show that.

929
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 1: Bruce arians admitted that Palmer had nerves. Palmer admitted that

930
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 1: Palmer had nerves. And of course you worry about that

931
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 1: a little bit. And when you look at the Panthers defense,

932
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 1: I picked on some of the negative things about it,

933
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 1: but the reality is, right now, they have the best

934
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 1: defensive tackle still alive in the playoffs. They have the

935
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 1: best linebacker still alive in the playoffs, Luke Keikly. And

936
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: you know, you could argue Patrick Peterson or Josh Norman,

937
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 1: but they have a cornerback that is playing dominant for them.

938
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 1: You know they I don't know who. It's not like

939
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 1: he's gotta just you know that that's a tough call.

940
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 1: But you know what I'm saying is they have top

941
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 1: level plays at every level. I think this is this

942
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:07,839
Speaker 1: isn't the best matchup for Norman because the Cardinals are

943
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:11,479
Speaker 1: so they have that embarrassment of riches. You can't Norman

944
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 1: is not gonna He's not gonna trail Fitzgerald into the

945
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 1: slot because that's not what he does. And if you

946
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,959
Speaker 1: put him on Michael Floyd. John Brown is gonna burn

947
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 1: people deep, and Fits is gonna burn Finn again. You

948
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 1: only have basically, you have Josh Norman and a bunch

949
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,359
Speaker 1: of questions. That's been the issue with every team trying

950
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 1: to deal with the Cardinals. And that's why they're scoring

951
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 1: offenses off the charts because they're overload. They're an overload

952
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 1: situation on every defense. I think we we do have

953
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 1: some sound. I believe that Bruce arians talking about their

954
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 1: troubles up front, which which you alluded to before, and

955
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 1: I think that's something that has to be a concern

956
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:46,919
Speaker 1: with the way Kawan Shorten. Sure star Lola played last week.

957
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:49,320
Speaker 1: Why don't we take a listen to that sid getting

958
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:53,840
Speaker 1: her ass kicked up front? And uh, it's not anything

959
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 1: David stealing or just not a lot of holes there.

960
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 1: And we're gonna do a better job. And and as

961
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 1: tough challenge this week, they got the better running back

962
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 1: in this game, David Johnson. I'd rather have him than

963
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 1: Jonathan Stewart any day, and yet he's done nothing the

964
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 1: last couple of weeks. And it's justice the run game.

965
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 1: I mean, the Packers went blitz crazy at Arizona for

966
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:14,800
Speaker 1: three quarters of that game, and they had no answer

967
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:16,359
Speaker 1: for it. A lot of that game when you when

968
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 1: I rewatched it, I didn't think it was quite as

969
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 1: much on Carson Palmer as I thought, because there was

970
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 1: a lot there were a lot more plays where he

971
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 1: just had to get rid of the ball really quickly

972
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 1: because the Packers sent stuff that they just had no

973
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 1: Why are you disrespecting Jonathan Stewart thousand games in the

974
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 1: regular seas put a hundred on the Seahawks, and I

975
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,840
Speaker 1: are charter members of the yeased to hear that. I

976
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 1: agree with him that David He's just saying, David Johnson

977
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 1: is better than what he does as a receiver. Cannot

978
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 1: be discounted. Once foolishly said, you know, draft Jonathan Stewart

979
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:49,879
Speaker 1: with your number six pick in your fantasy league back

980
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 1: in ten years ago. I love Jonathan Stewart. I think

981
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:57,399
Speaker 1: that David Johnson is one of the six or seven

982
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 1: best running backs in the league right now. I I

983
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,879
Speaker 1: think he's that good in terms of his overall skills. UM.

984
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 1: Can I just cycle back to Josh Norman a second,

985
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 1: because it does feel like he hasn't been um necessarily

986
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 1: the same guy and I checked out Pro Football Focus

987
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 1: and their numbers, at least if you like their metrics

988
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 1: back it up. Through week eight, he was essentially the

989
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 1: number one cornerback in football. But from week nine nine,

990
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 1: week nine on, he's been basically, in terms of their grading,

991
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 1: an average type cornerback. He got shredded by the Giants

992
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 1: and Odell Beckham and got lucky for it not to

993
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 1: be worse. He didn't play great against Julio Jones the

994
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 1: next week, and he's been not been putting up great

995
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:35,919
Speaker 1: numbers really or in terms of you study the tape.

996
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 1: So maybe he's not the same player that he was

997
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 1: back in October and November, and that's something to think about. Two. Well, yeah,

998
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 1: he was playing better earlier year. I don't think that

999
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 1: makes him anything close to an average player. He's still

1000
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 1: a very good cornerback. I just think the Cardinals it's

1001
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 1: just a bad matchup for the Panther secondary because the

1002
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 1: Cardinals have so many weapons and you can't stick on

1003
00:50:57,560 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: all of them. I guess my point is more because

1004
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 1: I read with you that they're the Cardinals have so

1005
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,359
Speaker 1: many weapons that guy needs to be playing at that

1006
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 1: high level or they're in deep trouble. He can't have

1007
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,720
Speaker 1: a bad game. I mean, they they're vulnerable just because

1008
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,360
Speaker 1: the Cardinals have so many weapons and Palmer is playing

1009
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 1: like the pomer we saw for most of the season.

1010
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 1: That I mean, that's it's tough for anybody. I think. Also,

1011
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 1: when your secondary's banged up, it can take certain cornerbacks

1012
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 1: and affect how they are used and how they play too.

1013
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 1: And there they are banged up. Let's pick the games now,

1014
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 1: and Mark, you gotta go. And this is gonna be

1015
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 1: a good one, all right. This is gonna be an

1016
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 1: amazing game. It's going into overtime. In my books, thirty

1017
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 1: to twenty four, the Carolina Panthers win at home. But

1018
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 1: no disrespect to the Cardinals. They're gonna bring it. This

1019
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 1: is gonna be a fun one, all right. I feel

1020
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 1: the same way. No disrespect to the Panthers. I have

1021
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:47,360
Speaker 1: a huge Panther's friend named Rob kizabeth On Tybee, and

1022
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 1: he's been disappointed in seven taller. He's just a big friend,

1023
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,799
Speaker 1: he's a good friend. He's been disappointed to me. It's

1024
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 1: not that I disrespect the Panthers. I have all the

1025
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,240
Speaker 1: respect in the world for the Panthers. I just respected

1026
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 1: what the Seahawks have done the past couple of years,

1027
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 1: and I respect what the Cardinals have done all this year.

1028
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say that the Cardinals I do. I respect

1029
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 1: the Panthers. I like them. They were our team of

1030
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 1: a t L two years ago. I'm going Cardinals. Mm hmm.

1031
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 1: This is such a good game, I agree to I

1032
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 1: have no respect for any of the teams. Just to

1033
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,359
Speaker 1: balance things out, No, I respect them both. I am

1034
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:24,319
Speaker 1: gonna say thirty one thirty wes Panthers win. Okay, we're

1035
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,959
Speaker 1: talking that type of game. I don't get the whole

1036
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 1: not picking the team of a t L thing. I mean,

1037
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 1: I would pick them if they have any chance to win.

1038
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 1: They're the team of a t L. Why why would

1039
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 1: we not pick them in in every game that they

1040
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,399
Speaker 1: had a chance. I don't get it. Well, I guess

1041
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 1: because I feel like, as much as I like watching

1042
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 1: the Cardinals, I think Caroline is gonna win. And also,

1043
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 1: why would you pick anything after you abandoned us in

1044
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:53,280
Speaker 1: the PIX of season. Where's the burlap sack? Is my question?

1045
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 1: That's fair, I guess. My My other thing is we

1046
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 1: obviously have no clue what's gonna happen, So you might

1047
00:52:58,000 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 1: as well pick the team that you want to root

1048
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 1: for and the team that has a great chance to

1049
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 1: win Cardinal's Winter for the Panthers. Now, what score do

1050
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 1: you have? Yes? Are the Cardinals creed bombing a practice? No?

1051
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 1: But they do check. Hi. Do the Panthers have white

1052
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 1: wacky hijinks with quarterback competitions where they have I just

1053
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 1: caught Dan's bronchitis? Yeah, to look on Greg's face during

1054
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 1: that minute of some sa Alright, let's before we get

1055
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,360
Speaker 1: out of here, let's quickly. Uh, you know, it's time

1056
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 1: to put your sandwich where your mouth is. I like that. Uh,

1057
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:46,320
Speaker 1: go get my lunch. The Pisa Common Street trash like that? Yeah? Wow,

1058
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 1: you want me to go first? That was that was gross?

1059
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:53,839
Speaker 1: All right, here's my here's my first one. To those

1060
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:56,240
Speaker 1: that are new to the game, you only have one, right, Yeah,

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00:53:56,440 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 1: We each um throw out a prediction and then the

1062
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 1: rest of the room gets to either agree with it

1063
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 1: or challenge it. Go get my lunch, and if the

1064
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 1: person that challenges you or persons uh wins that challenge,

1065
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 1: you have to buy sandwiches for everyone that disagreed with

1066
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:16,799
Speaker 1: your assertion. For more on this game. Check out Go

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Speaker 1: get my Lunch dot org run by a fabulous website. Absolutely, okay,

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00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:23,319
Speaker 1: Mark go ahead does a great job. Okay, here it

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00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 1: is Brady and Manning. We'll combine for at least four interceptions. Brady,

1070
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:33,359
Speaker 1: I will take you up on that. Interesting, Brady and

1071
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:37,320
Speaker 1: Manning at least four four three means three is ridiculous.

1072
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:40,799
Speaker 1: Here's a going because it's notable. Bill Barnwell wrote a

1073
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 1: great piece um on ESPN that I read last night

1074
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 1: to breaking down like what's the league average quarterback? And

1075
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 1: one of the things that he talked about is like

1076
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:52,840
Speaker 1: the interception rate in the NFL now is through the floor.

1077
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 1: Nobody really throws interceptions anymore. I know Peyton Manning through

1078
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 1: something this year. So I think that's partly partly where

1079
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,320
Speaker 1: you're going from, uh, where you're going with here. But

1080
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:03,360
Speaker 1: I don't think Tom Brady's gonna throw a pick um,

1081
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 1: and I don't think that peytonn is gonna melt down wildly.

1082
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,239
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna take you on that cool. I will

1083
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 1: take you on it too. I feel like three is

1084
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:13,319
Speaker 1: the probably the right over under, so I'm gonna go

1085
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:14,920
Speaker 1: three would have been I would have been told it

1086
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 1: was boring, so I had it. It was good. Like

1087
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:20,760
Speaker 1: you're usually even Stephen. In this game, you're taking some chances.

1088
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 1: West Cardinals wide receiver trio of Larry Fitzgerald, John Brown,

1089
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 1: and Michael Floyd will have more yards the the entire

1090
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos offense. Ah, that is interesting. R's here it again.

1091
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:40,840
Speaker 1: The wide receiver trio Larry Fitzgerald, John Brown, and Michael

1092
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:44,240
Speaker 1: Floyd will have more total yards than the entire Denver

1093
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 1: Broncos offense net yards. I don't want to be rooting

1094
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:49,439
Speaker 1: for the Broncos off have any yards. But I guess

1095
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 1: I'll forget about this silly sandwich prop and I'll take

1096
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:56,760
Speaker 1: you up on it. I'll definitely take it. Wow, alright,

1097
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 1: might are gonna be conflicting, but go ahead. Total yards

1098
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 1: so all the running net yards, that includes yards lost,

1099
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 1: that's going to be close. You can get negative yards

1100
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:11,359
Speaker 1: if you lose sack yards. That's a good one. Here

1101
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:16,360
Speaker 1: is mine. We pull it up. Excuse me, bear with me.

1102
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 1: Here we go. Cam Newton, he's the Panthers quarterback. I

1103
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 1: will have more total touchdowns that is both passing, running

1104
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 1: and receiving potentially than Gronk Edelman and Amndola combined more touchdowns.

1105
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 1: I like a low scoring game in New England. Uh,

1106
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:41,959
Speaker 1: and I like Cam Newton doing some thing. So that's

1107
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 1: why I did this. I'm not gonna bother. I'm not

1108
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 1: gonna take it. I'm not going to. I mean, I'm

1109
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 1: not gonna take it. Okay, I'm gonna take it, Okay.

1110
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 1: I actually am also not going And based on what

1111
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 1: my second sandwich thing would have been, I think a

1112
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 1: huge day for Cam Newton is. I mean, the odds

1113
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 1: are heavily favoring Dan. He scored forty five touchdown. Oh yeah,

1114
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 1: Gronk or whatever, even if they were healthy, were gonna

1115
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:09,799
Speaker 1: Brandon Bold and the scores three touches. James, I'm not

1116
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 1: gonna take it. Well, I was just testing the love

1117
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:14,279
Speaker 1: fest of this room for Tom Brady, that's all. Yeah.

1118
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 1: I didn't kill win it maybe through people. We don't

1119
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:20,439
Speaker 1: even talk about the I'm not only carrying the Patriots water.

1120
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 1: I'm carrying a huge torch for Tom Brady as a

1121
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 1: football player, good for us, and I'm still not taking

1122
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 1: all that job. Well what he wanted, you know, Oh yeah, no,

1123
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 1: this works out and I feel like that was fair.

1124
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 1: But nobody took me out. It was a good one.

1125
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 1: There you go. Deal with Mine is pretty similar to West's.

1126
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:42,439
Speaker 1: It's just that Carson Palmer it's gonna have more yards

1127
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:45,440
Speaker 1: from scrimmage than Cam Newton. You know, the whole yards

1128
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 1: from scrimmage, the whole camp Well, you get Cams Russia

1129
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 1: Rushes versus versus Palmer's passing essentially, but you never know.

1130
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 1: I will take you up, meaning that I think Cam's

1131
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 1: going to have more. Right, if you're picking the Panthers,

1132
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 1: I'll take you up. It's gonna be happen. Campbell have

1133
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 1: more yards than Carson Pomer. Yeah, I think you will. Okay,

1134
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 1: so you'll take me yea, I'll take you. I'm saying

1135
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 1: Carson Palmer a lot more. I'm saying Carson Palmer will

1136
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 1: have more to all right, That's kind of how I

1137
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 1: figured it would happened. Wow, so we got a lot

1138
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 1: of chopping going on here. That was a rousing game. Yeah,

1139
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 1: that sound bite is still hideous. I had actually made

1140
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 1: up a what's more likely before they told me. I

1141
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 1: told you were not alone. It was I think it

1142
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 1: was like Peyton manning interceptions versus the amount of like

1143
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning throws three interceptions or the dabbing in Carolina

1144
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:40,920
Speaker 1: is at two or less or less dabs for the

1145
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 1: whole mine was Peyton Manning wins. I don't what's more

1146
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 1: likely Peyton Manning wins this game where I become a

1147
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 1: millionaire by Sunday night. Wow, think about what's gonna happen.

1148
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 1: By the way, the Panthers win this game, the sideline celebration,

1149
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 1: like the giant photo, like Cam Newton. You know how

1150
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 1: many angry housewives there will be in this Housewatves, please

1151
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 1: calm down with your letters, my goodness. All right, So

1152
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 1: there you go. So and for the record, I just

1153
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:12,920
Speaker 1: went the entire a t N group with Connor and

1154
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 1: Patra across the board. We went six across the board

1155
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 1: in favor of the Patriots and um in terms of

1156
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 1: the Panthers Cardinals. We all took the Panthers, with the

1157
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 1: exception of Wes and Greg. So there you have it.

1158
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 1: We can't wait. Here's a good thing, Greg. Now we

1159
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 1: get to watch it. We get to see what happens.

1160
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 1: I can't wait. The best thing about sports I'm I'm

1161
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 1: I got that feeling, you know, I got that feeling.

1162
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 1: I mean, these are big. These are the moments as

1163
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 1: a fan you get excited. You're starting to count the

1164
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 1: hours towards that game. The only thing that's annoying is

1165
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 1: they start the games at three o'clock. Why do you

1166
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 1: make up new time for games the biggest weekend of

1167
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:55,440
Speaker 1: the of the year. Too late? STI, I mean it's

1168
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:58,000
Speaker 1: not going to change now. There's no sense belly aching over.

1169
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:03,480
Speaker 1: Just move the times. When you are with me, I'm

1170
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 1: free help please. As a be we are losing listeners rapidly.

1171
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 1: I'm no longer accepting your keen Bommy, and I'm turning

1172
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 1: my back on you. We'll be back on Sunday night.

1173
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 1: That's what we do right after the NFC title game

1174
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 1: to talk about both these games. I will be a

1175
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 1: bad situation for Maybe you could cut this for for

1176
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 1: the show on Sunday. It will be a bad situation

1177
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:31,440
Speaker 1: for Mark and West because Peyton Manning is going to

1178
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 1: have the game of his life in a wild Spot

1179
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 1: and uh, you guys won't be able to. I have

1180
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 1: a feeling I'll get through it. Yeah. For Mark and West,

1181
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 1: I'll have to do I'll have to deal with your

1182
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 1: clownish behad I will here's my promise to you. I

1183
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 1: will be I will not be a jerk. I don't care.

1184
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll deal with it if you would. If

1185
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 1: you would have been a jerk after the Jet loss

1186
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:53,400
Speaker 1: in week seventeen, I would have buried you if the

1187
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 1: Patriots would have lost. But I will I respect for fandom,

1188
01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:00,120
Speaker 1: I won't do that. There might be a thrown the

1189
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 1: sleeves crop, that's all. Peyton Manning wins and well Mark

1190
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 1: and I will be happy for him. I agree Dan

1191
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 1: is turning. That's something that it's not that. It is

1192
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 1: not that. To be honest, I mean a joke to

1193
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 1: a Chip Kelly like joke to end the show. He

1194
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 1: has to play well in order to earn our respective. Well,

1195
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 1: let's see it. I want the best super Bowl matchup

1196
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:21,960
Speaker 1: and that doesn't include Denver's offense at this stage. In

1197
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 1: my mind, change my mind until Peyton Manning shredd change

1198
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:28,120
Speaker 1: my mind. You've been saying this all year about shredded

1199
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:31,920
Speaker 1: anything two thousand thirteen, Like Week fourteen, it was one

1200
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 1: of the sandwiches you lost, Is saying that he was

1201
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 1: gonna throw thirty touchdowns, So well, you want to go

1202
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:39,960
Speaker 1: through sandwich best? I said, that Ostwiler would have at

1203
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 1: least one start. How about some of that parmesan cheese

1204
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:44,440
Speaker 1: he's been shredding. That's the only thing. You know what

1205
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 1: I'm saying, I don't get it. I uh yeah. We'll

1206
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 1: be back on Sunday. This is Dan hands Is signing

1207
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:57,440
Speaker 1: off four Quiet Star, the Mailman, the Boss, La Sid

1208
01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:20,080
Speaker 1: behind the Glass. Come on, Pete until Sunday. M hm.