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Speaker 1: It is a Football Friday Week thirteen edition and might

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Speaker 1: be Lucky number thirteen God Zach Kershman with me Berg Gang.

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Speaker 1: The Cardinals needs some luck. They've lost three straight and

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Speaker 1: now head on the road. They're at Tampa Bay on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Zach and I break down the matchup and speak with TJ. Reeves,

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Speaker 1: Bocks Radio sideline reporter. He joins the show first though,

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Speaker 1: injury news, good news, and yes, some bad news as well.

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Speaker 1: At Cardinals Cover two, Episode nine fifty two, and it

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Speaker 1: starts now. Welcome to Cardinals Cover two.

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Speaker 2: Buda Baker, What Heart? What rent? This guy's unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of

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Speaker 3: dot Com Slash podcast.

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Speaker 2: Right at the five, hit the end zone for the

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Speaker 2: Cardinal touchdown.

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Speaker 1: Dray McBride, all right, he's been an absolute monster. Here's

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Speaker 1: Craig Graeler. Help. Everyone had a great Thanksgiving, Zach, I

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Speaker 1: would ask about yours, though, I know how you spent

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Speaker 1: part of your Thanksgiving while most of us were not

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Speaker 1: here at the Dignity Health Arizona Cardinals training center, Young

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Speaker 1: Zach was hard at work, no days off.

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Speaker 2: No days off. I was here celebrating a different kind

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Speaker 2: of bird, as a cardinal, not a turkey, see what

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Speaker 2: you Although, I was thinking of making that the tweet,

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Speaker 2: but then there was just too much news at practice

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Speaker 2: with Trey Benson not being there and wul Hernandez and

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Speaker 2: Kelvin Beacham and the injuries just continue to pile up

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Speaker 2: for this team. Uh, but at least there was no

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Speaker 2: you know, dead turkey being consumed on the field. That'd

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Speaker 2: be a little bit crazy.

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Speaker 1: All right, since you open up that door the news

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Speaker 1: on Friday officially before we get into you know what,

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Speaker 1: that's that's good, but because I think we all need

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Speaker 1: some good yeah, some positivity here on a football Thanksgiving

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Speaker 1: was very good. Thank you for thank you very much

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Speaker 1: for asking quiet just uh just the three of us.

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Speaker 2: Was it really good then?

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Speaker 1: If it was quiet? Absolutely yes, it is.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: That's fair because the opposite is just you know a

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Speaker 1: lot of chaos, you know, nothing that's that's that's wrong

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Speaker 1: with that, especially when you're talking about families. But I

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Speaker 1: enjoy a quiet holiday every now and again.

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Speaker 2: Well, we know how Jonathan Gannon felt about the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 2: He said he likes the chaos. So if you don't

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Speaker 2: like the chaos, get on the script here. Chaos could

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Speaker 2: be fun, chaos could be excited.

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Speaker 1: I don't mind excitement. I just don't like chaos.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's fair. And I will say one of my

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Speaker 2: favorite times, one of my favorite parts of Thanksgiving is

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Speaker 2: watching the old videos of people freaking out at their

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Speaker 2: Thanksgiving tables and like just flipping the tables and all

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Speaker 2: the different viral videos.

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Speaker 1: That who has ever flipped over a Thanksgiving table?

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Speaker 2: You have to watch this viral video that I've seen

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Speaker 2: every single year around Thanksgiving time when this dad starts

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Speaker 2: yelling at his son about something and the sun just goes.

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Speaker 2: The dad says to him, like, you're not a part

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Speaker 2: and the sun just gets angry and flips over the tables.

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Speaker 2: And then the dad picks up the turkey and throws

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Speaker 2: the turkey at him, and then he goes, did you

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Speaker 2: just throw a turkey at me? And it's one of

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Speaker 2: my favorite videos. I have watched him maybe three or

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Speaker 2: four times yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Are we sure it's not you as the sun?

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Speaker 2: Oh? No, no, Okay, this is not a life experience, This

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Speaker 2: think this video was shot probably when I was still

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Speaker 2: in middle school, but I like to watch it every year.

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Speaker 2: It's funny. It's not even that I tried to watch

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Speaker 2: I saw I most of the times forget that this

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Speaker 2: social media page and I'm like, I love this, and

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Speaker 2: then the algorithm of course knows I watched it, so

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Speaker 2: then it shows it to me about five other times.

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Speaker 1: So you enjoy other people's chaos, Yeah, okay.

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Speaker 2: Except when you're writing the game story like Silence last week,

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Speaker 2: and you're watching the chaos unfold on the field and

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Speaker 1: Yes, don't have to worry about this week, at least

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Speaker 2: I am not.

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Speaker 1: Okay, neither am I. There we go, but we can

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Speaker 1: talk about what the Cardinals are in for on Sunday, who.

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Speaker 2: Is who's playing, who's not playing?

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Speaker 1: he is not on the fifty three man roster. He said,

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Speaker 1: his practice window open up. This is week two, next week,

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Speaker 1: But when you do not see Trey Benson on the

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Speaker 1: far as not being added to the active roster ahead

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Speaker 1: Trey had suffered a setback, all Gannon would say is

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Speaker 2: I know Tayo mack you reported that he noticed on

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Speaker 2: We saw him last week. I made the comment to him,

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Speaker 2: the fantasy footballers out there, because they knew that their playoffs,

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Speaker 2: next week or two, Craig, So, I'm not sure about

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Speaker 2: your fantasy teams, and if you have Trey Benson, if

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Speaker 2: I think that's also part of the reason why nationally

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Speaker 2: answer with number thirty three. That answer has now been

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Speaker 1: Last Saturday, Jamar Jefferson was signed to the active roster

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Speaker 1: the announcement that a second running back was signed to

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Speaker 1: Two running backs on the practice squad certainly sounds like

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Speaker 1: a lot when you have sixteen spots, but again, when

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure they needed to add quite a few

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Speaker 2: Conner is also still around the guys we've seen so

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Speaker 2: a lot of rbs in that room. But with the

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Speaker 2: He's got twenty one days from that point on, so

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Speaker 2: the clock's ticking on game number thirty three. Signed to

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Speaker 1: Trey has not played since Week four, so we'll keep

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Speaker 2: But that right side of the line is going to

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Speaker 2: Josh Friar if it is Isaiah. Well, we know it's

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Speaker 2: But you have to hope that there's a chip on

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Speaker 2: then he lost it once Will Hernandez became healthy enough

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Speaker 1: One note on Beach I just double checked last week

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Speaker 1: going into that game against the Jaguars. Did not practice Wednesday, Thursday,

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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals Radio network as promised. As I mentioned

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Speaker 2: If Teddy Bridgewater could go from being a high school

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Speaker 4: and on out of that receiving room at Ohio State.

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Speaker 4: So we knew he was good, we knew he had credentials.

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Speaker 4: But guys, the first couple of games of the year.

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Speaker 4: And I've been doing this for a long time. I've

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Speaker 4: been on and off the Buccaneer broadcast for the last

441
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Speaker 4: thirty years. I've done the last twenty one strade as

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Speaker 4: the sideline guy. I am here to testify at the

443
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Speaker 4: altar on the podcast, he looked like a polished Pro

444
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Speaker 4: Bowl caliber receiver Game one with the routes catching the

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Speaker 4: ball in traffic and taking a hit going down the

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Speaker 4: field and making a play with a dB trying to

447
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Speaker 4: fight him hand fight him for the ball. I mean,

448
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Speaker 4: the skill level for a guy playing in his first

449
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Speaker 4: NFL season was immediate. Now, sure, you're going to have

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Speaker 4: a game or two where you don't maybe live up

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Speaker 4: to it. He was bothered a little bit by a

452
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Speaker 4: hamstring injury, a slight hamstring injury middle of the year.

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Speaker 4: They could not get him the ball. I mean, you

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Speaker 4: talk about if if Sunday night in LA in the

455
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Speaker 4: opening drive, he's there for a long forty yard touchdown

456
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Speaker 4: and Baker just didn't get him the ball, and it

457
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Speaker 4: might have altered how that game began. Who knows what

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Speaker 4: would have happened as it went on. LA may have

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Speaker 4: done what they did anyway, but that was there. He

460
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Speaker 4: had one hundred yard receiving game at Buffalo, and he

461
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Speaker 4: again is a tremendous weapon, and he's played much of

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Speaker 4: the season without the future Hall of Famer Mike Evans

463
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Speaker 4: being the guy on the other side attracting the double team.

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Speaker 4: He's done a lot of this while being double team himself.

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Speaker 1: That's a first round draft pick. You also have a

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Speaker 1: seventh round draft pick and Tez Johnson, who's come alive.

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Speaker 1: No Mike Evans, and you just got Chris Godwin back.

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Speaker 1: But having two young playmakers, two young wide receivers, what

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Speaker 1: does that meant for this offense overall?

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Speaker 4: Tez Johnson explosive, what a fun young man. I mean

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Speaker 4: he may be five foot nine, he may be one

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Speaker 4: hundred and seventy pounds maybe, but man he is. He's little,

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Speaker 4: but he's explosive, and get him in and let him

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Speaker 4: make plays. And he made a tough catch over the

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Speaker 4: middle for a touchdown in the lone score that the

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Speaker 4: Bucks had there the other night. Baker has been comfortable

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Speaker 4: with going to him in the red zone and the

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Speaker 4: plus territory sum So yeah, he's been a lot of

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Speaker 4: fun as a one to two with a BUKA. But clearly,

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Speaker 4: I mean Godwin back after a long layoff here again,

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Speaker 4: he had complete reconstructive surgery on his lower legs shattered

482
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Speaker 4: shattered lower right leg last year on Monday Night Football

483
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Speaker 4: with the Ravens in October. Came back in eleven months

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Speaker 4: to be able to play in September, which is incredible,

485
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Speaker 4: but then had problems with his fibula the same leg

486
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Speaker 4: and it had him out for about six games. So

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Speaker 4: he played the other night. Godwin's kind of liked a

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Speaker 4: security blanket. Whether it's Mayfield in there or Teddy Bridgewater.

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Speaker 4: He's the guy that can get open five to seven

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Speaker 4: eight yards down the field. If you need a catch

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Speaker 4: to get a short yardage first down, second and medium,

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Speaker 4: third and medium, he would be that guy. And then

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Speaker 4: you try to supplement it with Tz and Abuka trying

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Speaker 4: to go deep.

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Speaker 2: Flipping over to the defensive side of the ball. For

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Speaker 2: the Cardinals offense, defensive line has been pretty banged up

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Speaker 2: at certain points. But if you look up the middle though,

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Speaker 2: at that nose, tech that's zero tech. Vidavey is one

499
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Speaker 2: of those guys that we're all fighters here, we all

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Speaker 2: love the fighting game. There's one of those guys that

501
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Speaker 2: could truly land the knockout punch. What is it about

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Speaker 2: his game that makes it so difficult for opposing offensive

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Speaker 2: lineman to try to block him?

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Speaker 4: Well, first of all, he's as big as a school building.

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Speaker 4: That's my line that I keep using and he's athletic

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Speaker 4: at that size. Now. He hurt his ankle back a

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Speaker 4: couple of weeks ago. He re injured that in the

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Speaker 4: first series of the game with the Rams the other night,

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Speaker 4: so he is not one hundred percent at the moment,

510
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Speaker 4: but still even seventy five percent of him in the

511
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Speaker 4: middle is going to occupy double teams. Where where the

512
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Speaker 4: Buccaneers have fallen short is who can take advantage of

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Speaker 4: single teams on the interior offensive line of the other team.

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Speaker 4: They haven't had that complimentary player, But I mean, Veya,

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Speaker 4: You've got to put two guys on him because he

516
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Speaker 4: can destroy what you're doing through the middle of the

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Speaker 4: pass rush if you do not. When he is right

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Speaker 4: in as athletic as he is, I mean, I guys,

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Speaker 4: I don't know if you know his full story, but

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Speaker 4: he was a high school full back. He played full

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Speaker 4: back a lot of the time and could run. He

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Speaker 4: also would return kicks. He was a two hundred and

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Speaker 4: eighty pound watch out tackle slash fullback returning kicks in

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Speaker 4: high school. So that tells you about athleticism. And he's

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Speaker 4: a fun guy to be around, and he will be

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Speaker 4: a factor. He will be a factor in the middle

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Speaker 4: of the defense for the Buccaneers in this game with

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Speaker 4: the Cardinals a.

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Speaker 1: Big reason why the Buccaneers are top ten against the run.

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Speaker 1: Now when you talk about the past defense, and Jonathan

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Speaker 1: Gannon brought this up earlier in the week, the one

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Speaker 1: thing that the Cardinals know with Todd Bowles on the

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Speaker 1: other side is the Buccaneers are going to blitz and

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Speaker 1: this Cardinals run game right now, a lot of banged

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Speaker 1: up players. We've seen Jacobe Brissett drop back forty plus

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Speaker 1: times each of the past three weeks. What are the

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Speaker 1: Buccaneers Is it just same what they have I've done

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Speaker 1: all season as far as trying to make the other

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Speaker 1: quarterback uncomfortable.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they've not been good. I mean this is obvious.

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Speaker 4: They've not been good with just the front four trying

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Speaker 4: to get pressure on the quarterbacks. So they've had to

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Speaker 4: come up with these exotic blitz safety's coming from one direction,

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Speaker 4: linebacker coming from another, you know, decoy that a defensive

545
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Speaker 4: end or an edge rusher is coming, and instead he

546
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Speaker 4: backs out and somebody comes inside of him on a blitz.

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Speaker 4: So Bowles is mixed those in. The problem is in

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Speaker 4: the two games with Buffalo and the rams, you're not

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Speaker 4: getting home, you're not getting pressure on the quarterback doing that,

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Speaker 4: or the quarterbacks immediately able to make a quick throw

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Speaker 4: on a slant or something like that where the blitz

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Speaker 4: isn't effective. Let's see how effective Ressett can be against that,

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Speaker 4: especially early in the game, because I believe they're gonna

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Speaker 4: test him. I believe they're gonna put a blitz or

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Speaker 4: two or more in the first couple series of the

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Speaker 4: games on to see, hey, will he make a mistake?

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Speaker 4: Will he throw it to you? We saw that with

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Speaker 4: the veteran Tyrod Taylor in the Jets game all the

559
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Speaker 4: way back in September, where they got him to throw

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Speaker 4: it throw it to him twice, including a pick six

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Speaker 4: in the first quarter of the game. So I look

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Speaker 4: at a similar kind of blueprint where they're going to

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Speaker 4: try a Tyke Smith and Antoine Winfield one of the

564
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Speaker 4: safeties in tandem with Levonte David. Let's say, on, can

565
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 4: we fool the Cardinals full reset with pressure here and

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Speaker 4: getting to throw the ball where we wanted to throw

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Speaker 4: it and then and then come up with a quick takeaway.

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Speaker 2: Kind of expanding on that a little bit because you

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Speaker 2: mentioned Antoine Winfield, junior. This is a game that has

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Speaker 2: arguably two of the top safeties in the NFC, between

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Speaker 2: Buddha Baker and Antoine Winfield, and if you'll get their stats,

572
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Speaker 2: they're almost nearly identical throughout the twenty twenty five season.

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Speaker 2: Buddha's known for his versatility, so is Antoine. That's something

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Speaker 2: that Jonathan gan and hit on earlier on Wednesday. What

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Speaker 2: is it about Antoine Winfield's versatility that might pose kind

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Speaker 2: of expanding on your point, a little bit a problem

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Speaker 2: for the Cardinals offense.

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Speaker 4: Well, he will come down and hit backs. In the

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Speaker 4: running game, he will stick his nose in there. Not

580
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Speaker 4: the biggest guy, but he's athletic enough guy that he

581
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Speaker 4: will run forty yards down the field and make plays

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Speaker 4: as well in the pass game, passes defended, etc. I'm

583
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Speaker 4: saying this, He's had a bit of a disappointing season

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Speaker 4: by his standards. I mean, his year two years ago

585
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Speaker 4: was amazing with some sacks, some takeaways, pass breakups. You've

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Speaker 4: not had that kind of season to this point. Now,

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Speaker 4: there's still season left here at this stage, you've got

588
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Speaker 4: six games to go, and he's a guy again that

589
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:32,160
Speaker 4: is a physical player. Even as about a six to one,

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Speaker 4: probably two hundred and thirty ish pounds safety. He and

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Speaker 4: Tykey Smith, the young player out of Georgia and West Virginia.

592
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Speaker 4: He transferred from West Virginia and played for Kirby Smart

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Speaker 4: at Georgia for the last year that he was in college.

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Speaker 4: Tyke Smith will knock your block off, even if you're

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Speaker 4: a tight end or if you're a big receiver, and

596
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Speaker 4: can also rush the quarterbacks. So it's gonna be fun

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Speaker 4: with those safeties. But yeah, Winfield is one of the

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Speaker 4: leaders on the defense and let's see if he comes

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Speaker 4: up large in this game here with the Bucks back home.

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Speaker 1: Interesting coming up on Sunday. These two teams each on

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Speaker 1: three game losing streak, so we'll see what happens on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: TJ great stuff and as we mentioned before, we hit record,

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Speaker 1: we'll talk about it as well. But you've got a

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Speaker 1: lot of things going on right now, and we appreciate

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Speaker 1: the time and once again, enjoy the conversation and enjoy

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Speaker 1: Big Fight Weekend with yourself and Dan rayhaiel Hey, I love.

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Speaker 4: The fact that you guys are fight fans, so we

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Speaker 4: do talk a little boxing on the Big Fight Weekend

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Speaker 4: podcast on the website and a whole bit and Big

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Speaker 4: Dan is the ultimate insider for boxing. So now let's see.

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Speaker 4: Let's get in the ring on Sunday here, let's lace

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Speaker 4: up the gloves and let's see who has what. With

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Speaker 4: Arizona coming all the way east here, it's a must

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Speaker 4: win for the Buccaneers to get back on track if

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Speaker 4: they want to win the NFC South. And it's not

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Speaker 4: too bad weather wise. I know you guys play indoors

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Speaker 4: looking like an eighty degree day, not ultra humid, so

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Speaker 4: that's going to be interesting for late November here, not cold,

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Speaker 4: not any of that. And let's see what the Bucks

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Speaker 4: look like coming back home.

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Speaker 1: Great to be with you guys, Really fun conversation with TJ.

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Speaker 1: You want to follow him this week at Bucks. Sideline

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Speaker 1: Guy is his Twitter handle. I want to follow him

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Speaker 1: just for his boxing prowess and his knowledge. Again, big

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Speaker 1: shike weekend with Dan Rayfield. They do a tremendous job.

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Speaker 1: And yes, Zach and I are big fight fans, and

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Speaker 1: uh yeah, TJ. Reeves can speak about a number of

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Speaker 1: different sports, but had him on specifically for the Buccaneers

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Speaker 1: side of things, and you and I off air, Zach,

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Speaker 1: we were talking with him about boxing, and yeah, we

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Speaker 1: could have gone for a whole another hour.

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Speaker 2: So it's it's one of the other blood sports.

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Speaker 1: That is true. So as Ron Woofley likes to.

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Speaker 2: Call Yeah, so it's it's fun. We're kind of fight

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Speaker 2: fans at heart. So it's been pretty sweet and we

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Speaker 2: appreciate the shout out that we got on his podcast.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, was not expected that. Yeah, well, I appreciate that

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Speaker 1: from TJ, so thank you very much. Again. It's at

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Speaker 1: Big Fight Weekend. That is the podcast. Subscribe to that

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Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcast said, of course, subscribe to

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Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two as well.

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Speaker 2: So let me ask you this, Craig, because I was

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Speaker 2: gonna ask TJ this, but I'd rather wait to hear

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Speaker 2: it on his podcast. How many because you mentioned one

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Speaker 2: of the first things he said to us was about

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Speaker 2: this fight between Jake Paul and Anthony Joshua. How many

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Speaker 2: rounds do you think Jake Paul would even last three?

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Speaker 2: You think three rounds?

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Speaker 1: I think I would take the I would take the under.

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Speaker 2: I think a little bit more than that.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

652
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Speaker 2: I think Jake Paul is gonna gonna stay in there

653
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Speaker 2: a little bit. I think he's a big body guy.

654
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 2: He could take a couple of body shots. But Anthony Joshua,

655
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 2: it just.

656
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Speaker 1: Depends on the strategy. If Anthony presses.

657
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Speaker 2: The issue, I'm very interested to see. Like Floyd Mayweather

658
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 2: Logan Paul when that happened, Floyd just kind of stood

659
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 2: there and just kind of threw a couple of jabs

660
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 2: and made Logan work quite a bit until Logan hit

661
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Speaker 2: him with one, and then Floyd did not like that

662
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 2: and he started to look a little bit more like

663
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Speaker 2: money made. Whether that he is, I'm very interested to

664
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Speaker 2: see if that's what it's gonna be, like if Jake

665
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Speaker 2: Paul is just gonna exert a lot of energy, Anthony

666
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 2: Joshua is just gonna kind of stay and take it.

667
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 2: And then if he hits them once, if he clips

668
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Speaker 2: the ones, how does aj Rison.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to be a tough test

670
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 1: for Anthony Joshua. It is going to be a tough

671
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Speaker 1: test though for Jacobi Prissett. There it is like that transition.

672
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Speaker 1: Loved it.

673
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Speaker 2: I saw it coming a mile away from man. I

674
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Speaker 2: still loved it. You know, it's like a little jab,

675
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Speaker 2: you just need that to keep the flow going.

676
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Speaker 1: But you knew the newest real vision. You knew that

677
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Speaker 1: got hit.

678
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 2: That knockout punch was coming, and you just did it

679
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 2: right there with the transition.

680
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Speaker 1: What does Brissette see on Sunday specifically when you talk

681
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Speaker 1: about Todd Bowles and defensively what he has shown throughout

682
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: his career, and Jonathan Gannon has brought it up on

683
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Speaker 1: several different occasions, including earlier on Friday, there is an

684
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Speaker 1: expectation in fact, I believe they are ready for something

685
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Speaker 1: that they have never seen before. And then you always

686
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: hear about halftime adjustments, so you're not going to be

687
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Speaker 1: able to wait till half time. They're going to have

688
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 1: to be in game adjustments. How does bowls dial it up?

689
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 1: So there is a free runner? Which is going to happen?

690
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Speaker 1: And then if there is a free runner, what do

691
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Speaker 1: you do? If you're Jacoby, where is your hot red?

692
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 1: Who do you get that ball out to? Or do

693
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 1: you just throw it away and live for second down

694
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Speaker 1: or third down?

695
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Speaker 2: I think that that right there is something that Jacoby

696
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:12,719
Speaker 2: Brissett's gonna need to do, maybe a little bit more

697
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 2: than he might like, because he takes a lot of

698
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Speaker 2: hits and it's not been easy to stay in the

699
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 2: pocket and take the amount of hits and the amount

700
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Speaker 2: of sex that he has taken in the last handful

701
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Speaker 2: of weeks. You know, since that Week six game when

702
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 2: he took over as the starting quarterback for Kyle Murray,

703
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 2: Jacoby Brissett has definitely been pretty banged up. I will

704
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Speaker 2: say this, Jay, you mentioned JG and the sort of

705
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Speaker 2: respect he has for Todd Bowles. I don't think outside

706
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 2: of Mike McDonald with the Seahawks and the Shanahan McVeigh tree,

707
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Speaker 2: I don't think I've heard JG speak as highly of

708
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Speaker 2: another coach's scheme like he has spoken about Todd Bowles

709
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Speaker 2: in his scheme. And maybe that's because JG is that

710
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Speaker 2: defensive guy and he has he said that as a

711
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 2: defensive coordinator, he used to wash a lot of Todd

712
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 2: Bowles schemes because he would be sitting on the plane

713
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 2: or on the bus with some of the other offensive

714
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 2: coaches and they would be like, what in the world

715
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 2: did we just watch? And I think JG respects that,

716
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Speaker 2: especially as a defensive mind. In this game, though, you

717
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 2: don't want respect to cloud your judgment. You have to

718
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 2: be prepared for absolutely everything, and you have to be

719
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 2: prepared for the unknown. And that's something that you mentioned

720
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Speaker 2: with the free Runner. What are you going to do

721
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,800
Speaker 2: about it? I think Jacoby percent needs to be very smart.

722
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 2: He has a lot of weapons that are gonna be

723
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 2: out there. If Marvin Harrison Junior is healthy enough to play,

724
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Speaker 2: then he has three trusted and I mean one hundred

725
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 2: trusted guys out there that he could sling the rock to.

726
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,240
Speaker 2: You need to lean on a lot of those players,

727
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 2: and you need to just hope that your offensive line

728
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 2: is able to hold up quite a bit, you know,

729
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,800
Speaker 2: defrole hold, Isaiah Adams, Evan Brown. They're gonna be dealing

730
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 2: with a lot with v Tove up the middle. We

731
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 2: spoke with TJ about that and what he brings to

732
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Speaker 2: the table, just the sheer size that he has, and

733
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 2: Jag said, it's been very tough to game plan for

734
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 2: four Vita Veya. What are you doing with Hassan Reddick

735
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 2: potentially coming off the edge if he's healthy enough to play.

736
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 2: That's something that this team is going to need to

737
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Speaker 2: be very prepared for.

738
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Speaker 1: And depending on the status of Amardi Mercado. I know

739
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 1: when he suffered this latest ankle injury was reported as

740
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 1: a high ankle sprain. You do not have him, not

741
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, that third down back Michael Carter

742
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 1: Bam Knights, and we know in the two games that

743
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 1: Omari has missed already, the opposition has recorded six sects,

744
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: whether it was Green Bay or last week Jacksonville. And

745
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,760
Speaker 1: Jacoby has been sacked twenty two times in the last

746
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 1: five games. That includes not getting sacked at all by

747
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers.

748
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 2: So not been easy. And that just the sacks. The

749
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 2: hits are I think almost triple that if I'm not mistaken.

750
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 2: So it's not been easy for Jacoby in the pocket.

751
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 2: The offensive line has had its moments. They've also had

752
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 2: moments where they've done a lot of good things. You

753
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 2: know that game two weeks ago where they did not

754
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 2: allow a single sack on over fifty plus pass attempts.

755
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 2: That was encouraging. You need to just hope to find

756
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 2: a little bit more of that.

757
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 1: Buccaneers, by the way, according to Next Gen Stats, lead

758
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 1: the league in unblocked pressures and unblocked sex meaning in

759
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 1: the free runners meaning someone has a clear shot at

760
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 1: the quarterback. And that's that is scary. Again, I'm trying

761
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 1: to put myself in that position as a quarterback where

762
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 1: you drop back and whether you see it coming or

763
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 1: you don't see it coming. But the fact that there

764
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:40,399
Speaker 1: are that many unblocked pressures and unblocked sex that's again,

765
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Speaker 1: that's why when Jacobe was asked about it, just make

766
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: sure your eyes are up. You don't and we see

767
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,399
Speaker 1: a lot of play action with this offense that means

768
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 1: turning your back to the defense. So does that change

769
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 1: a little bit or is the play action rollout quicker?

770
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 1: Is it more of a deeper And that's.

771
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,320
Speaker 2: The game going. And that's been part of the problem

772
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,399
Speaker 2: for the Cardinals is they have not had a good

773
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:08,280
Speaker 2: rushing game this season for a lot of different reasons.

774
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 2: We talked about the injury, we talk about the struggles

775
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 2: they've had on offensive line. I mean, they've faced a

776
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 2: lot of good defensive fronts. And that is also attributed

777
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 2: to as JG likes to say all the time, the

778
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,720
Speaker 2: other team also has to say too. They also get paid.

779
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 2: But you need to try to figure out whatever the

780
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 2: solution is, to figure out and solve that equation. But

781
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 2: if you want to try to get by this Tampa

782
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 2: Bay Bucks team and start to have the ability to

783
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 2: go into play action and have the ability to be

784
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 2: under center. Well, you need to be able to run

785
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:39,760
Speaker 2: the football.

786
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, Cardinals have been held in check the last two games.

787
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: As far as trying to run that football, you got

788
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 1: to have somewhat of a run game to keep that

789
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 1: defense honest. Otherwise you're going to see a lot of

790
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 1: pressure if you're Jacoby Brissett. Specifically on Sunday. As far

791
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 1: as the matchup, the advance Zach on Easycardinals dot Com,

792
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,959
Speaker 1: which will drop on Saturday, you're highlighting what.

793
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 2: So the Bucks have a really good safety in Antoine

794
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 2: Winfield Junior. The Cardinals have two really good safeties in

795
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 2: Jalen Thompson and Buddha Baker. So I'm gonna be talking

796
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 2: a little bit. I spoke with both guys a little

797
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 2: bit about their relationship. Both of them probably had their

798
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 2: best games of the season last weekend against the Jacksonville Jaguars.

799
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 2: Jalen Thompson had his second career sack, the strip sack

800
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 2: that Walter Nolan was able to return to the house.

801
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 2: Buddha Baker had his first interception since the twenty twenty

802
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 2: two season, had his first sack in three hundred and

803
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 2: sixty four days. At that point, it was almost a

804
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 2: full calendar year. It's not a full sack though, and

805
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,240
Speaker 2: it was not, And I know Buda is not happy

806
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,320
Speaker 2: about it. I know Buda is not happy about it.

807
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna just be talking about their sort of

808
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 2: relationship to versatility. And j T was the one who

809
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 2: used the term versatile. He said that flying off the edge,

810
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 2: it kind of adds a feather in his cap to

811
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 2: show that he is at versatile safety. We see it

812
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 2: with him having to fill in for Garrett Williams at

813
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 2: the nickel spot. But now he has the chance to

814
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 2: show it be kind of that free runner because that's

815
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 2: exactly what he was against Jacksonville. And then next week

816
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 2: I'll preview it and tease it here a little bit tall.

817
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 2: So just have like my fingers crossed that this does happen.

818
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 2: I should have an exclusive one on one with Jacoby

819
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:21,439
Speaker 2: Brissett so to hear more from the current QB one.

820
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Speaker 2: Keep your eyes peeled for that.

821
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: Wow, very very nice. By the way, looking at the

822
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 1: numbers from last week, Jalen Thompson Budabaker combined for eighteen tackles,

823
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 1: a second and a half tackle for loss. Quarterback hit, interception,

824
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,240
Speaker 1: two passes defense, and a force fumble.

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Speaker 2: I think that's pretty good. Yeah, there there are a

826
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 2: lot of good safeties out there. There are not a

827
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:49,359
Speaker 2: lot of safety tandems like the Cardinals have, And they

828
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,800
Speaker 2: have another one in the wing with with rabbit Taylor Demerson,

829
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 2: who's not healthy at the current moment, but there's a

830
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 2: lot of optimism around what he could become. And to

831
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Speaker 2: tease it a little bit more, we know that Jalen

832
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Speaker 2: Thompson's contract is supposed to expire at the end of

833
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Speaker 2: the season. I asked him about it. So check out

834
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Speaker 2: Easycardinals dot com from more tomorrow.

835
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Speaker 1: You're learning I try teaze very very well anything else

836
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Speaker 1: with respects to this matchup on Sunday that you have

837
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Speaker 1: your eye on. Just win, just just win. Well said, yes,

838
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Speaker 1: I echo that one hundred percent.

839
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Speaker 2: Look you want to come back. So it's a long

840
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 2: flight out east. Even though I think I like to

841
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 2: call Florida in the South, I don't like to call

842
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 2: it in the East. A lot of people say it's yeah,

843
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 2: but a lot of people say it's on the East coast.

844
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Speaker 2: Somebody that lives on the East Coast, I don't think

845
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 2: that's in the East coast. I think that's in the southeast.

846
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Speaker 2: I have this argument so often if you looked at

847
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 2: the map of the United States, I have, I mean

848
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Speaker 2: recently have I looked at the map?

849
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Speaker 1: No?

850
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Speaker 2: Do I know where Florida is on the map?

851
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:54,280
Speaker 1: Yes, the coastline kind of goes, doesn't just stop.

852
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Speaker 2: Its southeast.

853
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 1: East Coast is the.

854
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Speaker 2: Northern eastern part of the country, and I just think

855
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 2: Florida's in the southeast. I just don't call it on

856
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 2: the I don't say you like, oh, you're flying out

857
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 2: to the East coast. Where are you flying too Florida?

858
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 2: Like no, but hopefully that flight back from Florida from Tampa,

859
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 2: from t PA, they take off, they land back here

860
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:16,399
Speaker 2: in PHX with.

861
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 1: A w cross country flight instead of on the East

862
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 1: coast flight. You call it cross coast.

863
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 2: It is it is, it's.

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Speaker 1: It's a it.

865
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Speaker 2: They are in the eastern time zone. They are in

866
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Speaker 2: the eastern side of the country, but they're in the

867
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Speaker 2: southeastern side.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So you have East coast passionate, you have East

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Speaker 1: coast bias. This is the this is the definition of

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Speaker 1: East coast. Potentially, I think this is also just you

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Speaker 1: open up your eyes and you look learned something new

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Speaker 1: from you. Almost on a daily basis, certainly weekly, but

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Speaker 1: on a daily basis.

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Speaker 2: You say that, Okay, let me not think of the math. Seattle.

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Speaker 1: It's the Pacific. Yes, it's on the West coast.

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Speaker 2: So you would say that Seattle's on the West coast. Yes,

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Speaker 2: not just the Western time zone.

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Speaker 1: No, I don't. I don't have the West coast bias

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Speaker 1: that you apparently have. Is the East coast, by.

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Speaker 2: The West coast, we're not really on the West coast. Mean,

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Speaker 2: we're on the West coast during the side of the country.

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Speaker 2: Never mind, I'm still stuck on this south.

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Speaker 1: You're talking about someone who grew up in the Bay Area,

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Speaker 1: which is the West coast. Just because I consider the

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Speaker 1: entire coastline is the west. That's California, Seattle, all the

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Speaker 1: way down to San Dieg.

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Speaker 2: I think there's one state that's in the West coast,

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Speaker 2: like the West coast. Could say, like I'm claiming West coast.

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Speaker 1: Do you only consider California as the West coast.

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Speaker 2: I just think I look at the Pacific Northwest, Florida

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Speaker 2: is the southeast. That's the Southeastern Conference. It just means

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Speaker 2: more over there.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's fair. I will, I will not. You're

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Speaker 1: very passionate about this. We can agree to disagree, or

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Speaker 1: just like you have, we could agree. You have your

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Speaker 1: belief and I have.

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Speaker 2: It's one of those things where it's like your opinion's

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Speaker 2: not wrong until it is.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to say it is.

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Speaker 1: We can open up to the Bird gang if they

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Speaker 1: have their thoughts and want away. In all please, people,

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Speaker 2: That is the account. You let me know if I'm

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Speaker 2: crazy or not, even though I know the answer to

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Speaker 2: that one, but you let me know if you agree

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Speaker 2: or disagree.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate that. Make sure your alarm is set six thirty

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Speaker 1: am for early bird.

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Speaker 2: I actually won't even said it. I'll just stay away.

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Speaker 1: You'll just be on, okay. Six thirty Pregame coverage begins

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Speaker 1: on the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network. Eleven AM is the

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Speaker 1: kickoff Cardinals and Buccaneers here in Week thirteen. And on

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Speaker 1: that note, we will put a lid on This edition

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Speaker 1: of Cardinals. Cover two, presented by Hyundai, proud partner of

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Speaker 1: Jim Momahundre our associate producer Cody Fincher for Zach Kershman,

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