WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: What We Know

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<v Speaker 1>The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Lets go. Are you

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<v Speaker 1>ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 1>Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, a Bar Garcia, and Derek Eagleton.

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<v Speaker 1>September tenth, twenty twenty, Season sixteen, Episode number twenty. Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to another edition of The Break. I am live from

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<v Speaker 1>the s WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star, got my

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<v Speaker 1>crew with me, Nick Eatman, Dave Helman, Amber Garcia. We

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<v Speaker 1>got an our hour of Cowboys talk with you guys today.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot to get into. We will be joined here

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<v Speaker 1>in the maybe later in the first segment, but definitely

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<v Speaker 1>by the second segment by Bucky Brooks. He is our

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<v Speaker 1>guy that we bring in to talk about or to

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<v Speaker 1>scout for the other team. He's gonna give us a

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<v Speaker 1>scouting report on the Rams defense today versus a Cowboys offense.

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<v Speaker 1>Before we get to that, though, we're gonna talk a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit about some injury updates from coach McCarthy. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk a little bit about the Rams match up with

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<v Speaker 1>these guys, um and in the third second, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do it in something a little new. Today, we got

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<v Speaker 1>a game for you guys called I know, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>I have no idea. We'll do that all. In the

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<v Speaker 1>final segment, how's everybody doing today? We're doing good. We're

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<v Speaker 1>doing great. Good girl to be here. Get this thing, Roland,

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna do this. No one ever asked you how

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<v Speaker 1>are you doing? Derek. Wow, that really touches me. And

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<v Speaker 1>because nobody really ever asking me how I'm doing, So

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you. Look at the look on Dave's face. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>so I appreciate you asking how I'm I'm doing great.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing great, happy to be back at the Star

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<v Speaker 1>and happy to be on the show with you guys

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<v Speaker 1>one more day. So let's jump into this. I would

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<v Speaker 1>never ask you, no one ever asked you because you're

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<v Speaker 1>the most consistent person in the world. I mean, you're

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<v Speaker 1>always the same. You might be frustrated by a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of things, but you're always the same. So that's what

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<v Speaker 1>we always know. How you are. You're good. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>that's a compliment. I hope that's a compliment. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>let's jump in. I do want to do something a

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<v Speaker 1>little different today, and I'm gonna do this every day.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna go around Robin, not everybody today. Every day

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna have a different person to do it. But

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<v Speaker 1>every day we're gonna start the show, and I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>throw out a question to one of you guys that's

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna be kind of what's on your radarf for today? Today?

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<v Speaker 1>Nick gets your day, So tell us what's on your

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<v Speaker 1>radarf for today? What? By the way, this can be anything.

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<v Speaker 1>If you notice something on social media this morning that

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<v Speaker 1>really piqued your curiosity, feel free to talk about it.

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<v Speaker 1>But Nick, what's on your radar for today? Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>think judging from what the story that came out yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>with Dak Prescott did and did an interview with his

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<v Speaker 1>brother and talked about a lot of different subjects and

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<v Speaker 1>so it was a touching article and videos. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you we get a chance to actually talk to Dak today,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm sure a lot of that stuff's gonna come out,

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<v Speaker 1>So I think that that is something that'll be on

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<v Speaker 1>our radar right there. Just what Dak says, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>as he's gets ready for this first game. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he's got other stuff on his mind as well. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you guys heard that interview. I

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<v Speaker 1>was listening to it this morning on the radio when

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<v Speaker 1>I was on my way into the office, and I

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<v Speaker 1>mean literally I was almost in tears listening to his

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<v Speaker 1>brother talk about his brother Jas, who had taken his

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<v Speaker 1>own life a little earlier this year. I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was Draft Day actually when this all happened, or at

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<v Speaker 1>least when the news broke, and just hearing him talk

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<v Speaker 1>about how excruciating that was for him was very, very emotional.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I'm looking forward to to hearing Dak talk

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more because I'm sure he'll have some questions.

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<v Speaker 1>There'll be some questions for him on how he's managing

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<v Speaker 1>and how he's dealing with all of that while he's

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<v Speaker 1>trying to also go on with his life and get

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<v Speaker 1>ready for an NFL season. So it will definitely be

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<v Speaker 1>interesting to hear a little bit more from him. Before

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<v Speaker 1>we get to Bucky, I do want to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>you guys a little bit about some injury updates, as

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<v Speaker 1>well as talking a little bit about what we expect

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<v Speaker 1>this matchup to be this weekend versus the Rams. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>start first with Mike McCarthy. He talked about some men

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<v Speaker 1>guys that came back from injury. Yesterday Cheetah bay Woogia,

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<v Speaker 1>Davier Woods, and Mary Cooper all returned to practice. Dave,

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<v Speaker 1>what did he say about what those guys or those

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<v Speaker 1>guys coming back and what they're what their outlook is

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<v Speaker 1>for playing this weekend. I mean, in my experience, coaches

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<v Speaker 1>don't love to say people are going to be available

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<v Speaker 1>days ahead of time, but I mean, you can just

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<v Speaker 1>look at the practice report. You know, Cheeto Cheetoh was

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<v Speaker 1>full for the first time since he got hurt, and

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<v Speaker 1>Xavier Woods wasn't even on the report. So when a

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<v Speaker 1>guy's not listed, it obviously means his injury is far

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<v Speaker 1>behind him enough that they're not even limiting him. So

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<v Speaker 1>I expect both of those guys to be available, which

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<v Speaker 1>you know a week ago that didn't necessarily seem as likely.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's really encouraging. The one, you know, the one

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<v Speaker 1>guy to keep an eye on is probably Jordan Lewis.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't get the feeling that he's going to be available,

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<v Speaker 1>but with Cheeto back in the fold, you know that

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<v Speaker 1>still gives you four or five corners that you can

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<v Speaker 1>work with even without Jordan Amber. With that being said,

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan Lewis, how concerned to you that he's not maybe

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<v Speaker 1>not going to be playing. I think we probably all

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<v Speaker 1>agree that if he were playing, he's probably your your

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<v Speaker 1>third cornerback. He's it's the cornerback that would probably come

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<v Speaker 1>on in the instance that you're in nickel defense. How

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<v Speaker 1>concerned to you that Jordan may not play this weekend? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it is concerning, especially for I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>a guy that has experienced and he had a good

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<v Speaker 1>year last year. But I am concerned just passed from

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<v Speaker 1>this weekend, Like how long is he gonna be He

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't been able to practice yet, and he missed a

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<v Speaker 1>good amount of training camp, So how much is that

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<v Speaker 1>gonna push him back as far as once he's able

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<v Speaker 1>to get in there and start practicing. It goes back

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<v Speaker 1>to what I was asking yesterday, how long does it

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<v Speaker 1>really take a guy that hasn't done much on the

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<v Speaker 1>field to get acclimated and get back into that football condition.

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<v Speaker 1>So that raises question marks. I have question marks about

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<v Speaker 1>Amari Cooper. He did have a good camp and you

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<v Speaker 1>know he's shown to be a great player. But at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time, we know how much he dealt with

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<v Speaker 1>that injury well on the foot, and I think now

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<v Speaker 1>it's what was it a hamstrings? Yeah? Yeah, so but

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<v Speaker 1>still it's still same part of the party, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the whole leg area. So it concerns me as far

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<v Speaker 1>as Okay, are we going to have to deal with

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<v Speaker 1>having to watch Amari Cooper's foot feet leg throughout this

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<v Speaker 1>whole camp? Is it gonna be available a year? How

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<v Speaker 1>is that going to affect the whole wide receiver group,

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<v Speaker 1>which I know we have great guys, but at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time, it does it does concern me. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>we are now joined by Bucky Brooks his Seconday joining us.

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<v Speaker 1>He joined us yesterday gave us some really great insight

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<v Speaker 1>into the Rams defense. I'm sorry Rams offense. Today we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna talk about the Rams defense. Welcome to the show, Bucky, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for having me on. Real quick, Um, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get this thing started. I want to first focus in

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<v Speaker 1>on the defensive coordinator. Uh. This last year, this last offseason,

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<v Speaker 1>the Rams made the decision that they were gonna move

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<v Speaker 1>on from Wade Phillips as their defensive coordinator. A name

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<v Speaker 1>that's very familiar to Cowboys fans, and they hired Brandon Staley.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's first start by telling me a little bit about

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<v Speaker 1>why Wade's defense felt short in twenty nineteen that ultimately

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<v Speaker 1>led to his firing. You know, it's funny because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think the defense didn't play that well, But with

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<v Speaker 1>Wade Wade Phillips's scheme is one that is pretty simful.

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<v Speaker 1>They're gonna bring five man pressures, They're gonna play a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of man to man and over time, teams understand

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<v Speaker 1>exactly how to attack their defense, and so they fell

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<v Speaker 1>off a little bit. I would say their falloff was

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<v Speaker 1>more due to personnel. You had Aaron Donald, but you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have a complimentary set of Russias that could consistently

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<v Speaker 1>get it done. Dante Fella played well Clay Matthews, but

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't get the same kind of rushed they got

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<v Speaker 1>in previous years, and so that kind of left him

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<v Speaker 1>up there with Brandon Staley. I think the big thing

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<v Speaker 1>it's all about Sean mcvay's fascination with Vic Fangio's defense.

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<v Speaker 1>Vic Fangio's defense has always style me the Ram's offense

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<v Speaker 1>in the past. He wanted to bring more energy into

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<v Speaker 1>the coaching staff. That is why they're so young. With

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin O'Connell on offense Brandon Staley on defense. They wanted

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<v Speaker 1>more energy and they felt like that energy would resonate

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<v Speaker 1>and connect better with their players. But we will see

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<v Speaker 1>because Way Phillips was one of the best to ever

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<v Speaker 1>do it from a defensive coordinator standpoint, we'll see if

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<v Speaker 1>the new coordinator, Staley can give opponents problems with the schemes.

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<v Speaker 1>Before we move on to Nick asking his question, I

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<v Speaker 1>did have a follow up on that. Which do you

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<v Speaker 1>think is a bigger deal the fact and I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>talking about Brandon Staley here. He's never been a decordinator,

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<v Speaker 1>so no one knows what he'll do. Or he's never

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<v Speaker 1>been a decordinator, so he lacks experience. I think the

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<v Speaker 1>lack of experience is a big deal. The more that

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<v Speaker 1>you're around the National Football League, it's all about being

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<v Speaker 1>able to make adjustments and make adjustments in game. Does

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<v Speaker 1>he have a wealth of knowledge to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>make those adjustments If his original game plan isn't working,

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<v Speaker 1>Kenny switch it up on the fly. When you think

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<v Speaker 1>about these long time defensive coordinators, they've seen at all,

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<v Speaker 1>and so there's little there's few things that you can

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<v Speaker 1>do to surprise him. With Staley his first game calling it,

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<v Speaker 1>how is he able to adjust if the Cowboys do

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<v Speaker 1>something that is unexpected? That is the big thing when

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<v Speaker 1>you're dealing with an inexperienced coordinator, which you would expect

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<v Speaker 1>that there will be a lot of unexpected things because

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<v Speaker 1>nobody has seen what the Cowboys offense is going to

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<v Speaker 1>do over under Mike McCarthy. Dave, go ahead with your

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<v Speaker 1>question next. Yeah, Bucky, I mean, I feel like you

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<v Speaker 1>kind of touched on it because Vic Fangio's imprint on this,

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<v Speaker 1>in my opinion, is huge. But what I know about

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<v Speaker 1>Vic Fangio is his defense has always had, or at

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<v Speaker 1>least recently had really top notch edge rushers. You want

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about Khalil Mack obviously, Von Miller, not to

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<v Speaker 1>knock Aaron Donald, Obviously he's amazing, but like, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>look like the Rams have that. And you know Sampson

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<v Speaker 1>Nebucom has been great as a role player for them.

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<v Speaker 1>You mentioned Dante Fowler, they don't have him anymore. How

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<v Speaker 1>do you feel about their ability to generate pressure off

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<v Speaker 1>the edge because it seems like something that they're kind

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<v Speaker 1>of lacking right now. They are lacking that. You know, No,

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<v Speaker 1>Dante Fowler, m clay Matthews Junior isn't there. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you talking about Sampson Ebuka stepping up, and then Leonard Floyd.

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<v Speaker 1>Leonard Floyd was drafted high to be a pass for

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<v Speaker 1>rush She coming out of George never really materialized with

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<v Speaker 1>the Bears. Would now of the Rams have him and kid?

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<v Speaker 1>He be a guy that can generate pressure for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I think having schemes and doing all the stuff that

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<v Speaker 1>you want to do that Vic Fangio has been able

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<v Speaker 1>to do, that's great. But if you don't have the

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<v Speaker 1>same level of talent up front, you can't play this scheme.

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<v Speaker 1>And if they are being a little more reckless and aggressive,

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<v Speaker 1>but they don't have to cover guys to hold up.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure you got Jalen Ramsey, but can Troy. He'll hold

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<v Speaker 1>up on that corner all by himself. Do you roll

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<v Speaker 1>coverage to his area to help him? I mean, there

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<v Speaker 1>are a lot of unknowns and uncertainties and question marks

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<v Speaker 1>about this Rams defense. And when you throw that in

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<v Speaker 1>on top of a new coordinator, I mean, I think

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to be trying to figure it out as

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<v Speaker 1>the game goes on, and that's not a good prospect

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<v Speaker 1>when you're starting out of season against what I think

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<v Speaker 1>is a very experienced coaching staff. Hamberg, you're up, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we saw the We've seen the Cowboys wide receiver group

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<v Speaker 1>have a good camp, and we've seen Dak Prescott trying

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<v Speaker 1>to throw down the field more during this training camp.

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<v Speaker 1>But last year we did see the Cowboys struggle in

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<v Speaker 1>completion and we saw them dropping several balls. So I

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<v Speaker 1>just wanted to ask you, as far as the Rams

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<v Speaker 1>secondary goes, how are you guys expecting them to be?

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<v Speaker 1>How good are they I expected to be as far

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<v Speaker 1>as takeaways this year? Well, obviously they got one hundred

0:12:20.640 --> 0:12:24.040
<v Speaker 1>billion dollars man and Jayleen Ram Jayleen Ms just signed

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<v Speaker 1>that big contract. He's one of the best shutdown corners

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<v Speaker 1>in the game. The problem is they only have one

0:12:29.760 --> 0:12:33.199
<v Speaker 1>of those guys, Troy Hill, and the rest of that secondary.

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<v Speaker 1>Really you're dealing with some newbies, some inexperienced guys. I

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<v Speaker 1>like Taylor Rapp in the middle, But if you can

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<v Speaker 1>get him isolated one on one, I think it all

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<v Speaker 1>goes into the Cowboys favor. We talked about these three

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<v Speaker 1>wilde receivers Michael Gallup, Ceedee Lamb and Amari Cooper. However,

0:12:48.559 --> 0:12:51.520
<v Speaker 1>you elect to play your coverage, somebody is going to

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<v Speaker 1>feast on one on one coverage, and oh, by the way,

0:12:54.559 --> 0:12:59.040
<v Speaker 1>you have to build your scheme to also stop Ezekiel Elliott. However,

0:12:59.360 --> 0:13:03.640
<v Speaker 1>the Rams want to play Mike McCarthy and Kellen Moore

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<v Speaker 1>can play chess. They have all the cards. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>a matter of how they want to go about attacking

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<v Speaker 1>this Rams defense because their talent is superior to the

0:13:11.080 --> 0:13:20.040
<v Speaker 1>rams defensive talent. Nick all right, I think Nick's having

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<v Speaker 1>some technical difficulties. I'll go on with another question. Jerry

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<v Speaker 1>might not have. Nick Um real quick, let's talk about

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<v Speaker 1>I guess from the standpoint of of the Rams mess

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<v Speaker 1>matching up against the Cowboys. I think you kind of

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<v Speaker 1>got to the point of that right there. But talk

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<v Speaker 1>to me a little bit about what you think is

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest area of mismatch, Like, where's where is there

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest area that the Cowboys can exploit? Is it

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<v Speaker 1>maybe their run defense? Is it? Their past defense is

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<v Speaker 1>running up the middle? Obviously with the air and Donald

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<v Speaker 1>that are probably not. But where's the area where they're

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<v Speaker 1>most vulnerable that the Cowboys could take advantage of. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I think the biggest vulnerability for the Rams is certainly

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<v Speaker 1>in the secondary. And the reason it's in the secondary

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<v Speaker 1>because I don't believe they can feel a consistent pass

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<v Speaker 1>rush outside of Aaron Donald. Now by himself, he's a

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<v Speaker 1>one man wrecking crew, and so the Cowboys have to

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<v Speaker 1>devote extra attention to make sure that they keep him contained.

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<v Speaker 1>But the rest of the guys, I think you feel

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<v Speaker 1>good even with Cam irving plan at right tackle, they

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<v Speaker 1>don't have an imposing threat coming off the edge. So

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<v Speaker 1>if they're able to get time and Dak Prescott has

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<v Speaker 1>enough time to attack down the field. Michael Gallup CD LAMB,

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<v Speaker 1>I think those matchups are in the cowboys favor and

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<v Speaker 1>I think they could work on those matchups early and often,

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<v Speaker 1>and if the Cowboys are able to play with the lead.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say this, Aaron Donald is a disruptive pass defender.

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<v Speaker 1>He is not necessarily the guy that is trying to

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<v Speaker 1>take on double teams and do all of that against

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<v Speaker 1>the run. Getting the lead early is critical. That's why

0:14:48.760 --> 0:14:51.400
<v Speaker 1>the first quarter matters more in this game than other games.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to play from in front. If you're the

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas Cowboys, Nika, you're back. All right, We're gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>with Dave given us give us another question. I Actually

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<v Speaker 1>it's funny you bring that up, Bucky, because it seems

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<v Speaker 1>like it's been a talking point on Twitter the last

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<v Speaker 1>couple of days. Is you know, analytics are obviously a

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<v Speaker 1>bigger part of this conversation than they ever have been.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's kind of a surprising talking point that Aaron Donald.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously we all know what he can do to disrupt

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<v Speaker 1>the pass, but people are trying to say that he's

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<v Speaker 1>an average or even a below average rundefender. Allow our

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<v Speaker 1>awards in your mouth, but you're kind of suggesting that

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<v Speaker 1>he's not as good at that part of his game.

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<v Speaker 1>How true is that exactly? Because from my very elementary understanding,

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<v Speaker 1>he's pretty great all the way across the board. No,

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<v Speaker 1>no, no no, Look, he's a disruptive player at the point

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<v Speaker 1>of a tech. But if we said he had had

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<v Speaker 1>Aaron Donald on the show, he would tell you I

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<v Speaker 1>would rather get after the quarterback. He stops running backs

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<v Speaker 1>on the way to knock in the quarterback down. And

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<v Speaker 1>typically what happens is when you run at guys like it.

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<v Speaker 1>No Phillips did in the past. He let Aaron Donald

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<v Speaker 1>freestyle a little bit, put him on the move, let

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<v Speaker 1>him shoot through gafts. Is Brandon Stanley going to do

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing or is he going to ask him

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<v Speaker 1>to play a little more traditional at the point of attack?

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<v Speaker 1>And so, if the Cowboys are able to run the

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<v Speaker 1>football and kind of what I say, soften Aaron Donald

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<v Speaker 1>with some of those body blows where he's having to

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<v Speaker 1>deal with a big offensive line leaning on him down

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<v Speaker 1>after down after down, how much is he going to

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<v Speaker 1>have left to really get after the passer? That is

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<v Speaker 1>the big thing. So it's not necessarily an indictment on

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<v Speaker 1>his run game, but it's saying I would rather make

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<v Speaker 1>him defend the run than free him up to come

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<v Speaker 1>after the passer, because we know he's a dominant pass

0:16:40.840 --> 0:16:43.520
<v Speaker 1>rusher for sure. Which as a follow up to that

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<v Speaker 1>real quick, and I said this yesterday. I know the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys and Rams played in twenty nineteen and the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>won easily, but I think the game that left an

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<v Speaker 1>impression on Cowboy fans is obviously the playoff game that

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<v Speaker 1>they lost a couple of years ago. Aaron Donald they

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<v Speaker 1>did a pretty darn good job of holding him and

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<v Speaker 1>checking that game. It was in Dominican Sue that really

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<v Speaker 1>metsed with them in the interior of that game. So

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<v Speaker 1>we know Mike Brockers has been there forever. Is he

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<v Speaker 1>on that level or do they have a guy that

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<v Speaker 1>can team with Donald? You know, if they can keep

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<v Speaker 1>Donald under control, is there somebody else that can wreck

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<v Speaker 1>that game plan because of the attention that they're paying

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<v Speaker 1>to Aaron Donald. No, I don't think they have anybody

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<v Speaker 1>in the fold that can do that. We can talk

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<v Speaker 1>about Sebastian, Joseph Day and Michael Brockers being inside as

0:17:31.160 --> 0:17:34.080
<v Speaker 1>complimentary players, but those are not the guys that are

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<v Speaker 1>going to give you the kind of headache and problems

0:17:37.040 --> 0:17:39.679
<v Speaker 1>that Aaron Donald wood or like in Dominican Sue Wood.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think the big thing will be can you

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<v Speaker 1>run it and establish it early? Because there are a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of different ways that the Cowboys can come out.

0:17:47.640 --> 0:17:50.000
<v Speaker 1>The Cowboys can come out passing, see if they can

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<v Speaker 1>put two quick scores on the board and then get

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<v Speaker 1>Zeke established and begin to control the game using their

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<v Speaker 1>offense basically as their defense. We've seen them do that

0:18:00.880 --> 0:18:03.719
<v Speaker 1>in previous years when they've won the NFC twenty fourteen,

0:18:03.800 --> 0:18:06.760
<v Speaker 1>twenty sixteen, twenty eighteen, that was kind of the approach.

0:18:07.200 --> 0:18:10.399
<v Speaker 1>You have to be able to really make the Rams

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<v Speaker 1>play from behind. You want to make that defense have

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of play in even steven defense. So punishing

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<v Speaker 1>them inside made me running at Donald to see if

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<v Speaker 1>he can hold up against the double teams at the

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<v Speaker 1>point of attack. All right, Bucky Man, we appreciate you

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<v Speaker 1>question for you. All right, but finish up. I was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna ask you, with no preseason games, are you expecting

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<v Speaker 1>this game to kind of start off slow and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>they get it kicked in by the second half of

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<v Speaker 1>the game. You know, I actually think this game will

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<v Speaker 1>will get sloppier as it goes down. I think the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest advantage will be the team that is in the

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<v Speaker 1>best condition, the team that has the most depth and

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<v Speaker 1>the best condition. Without preseason games, without a full slate

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<v Speaker 1>of scrimmages, no one has played sixty minutes, and so

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<v Speaker 1>we can talk about training and doing all those things,

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<v Speaker 1>and off season football is only you only get better

0:19:03.480 --> 0:19:06.320
<v Speaker 1>playing football by playing football. So the advantage will be

0:19:06.400 --> 0:19:08.280
<v Speaker 1>the team that has the most depth and the team

0:19:08.280 --> 0:19:10.880
<v Speaker 1>that is in the best condition, So look for one

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<v Speaker 1>of these teams to play at a faster tempo to

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<v Speaker 1>see if they can bring that conditioning into effect very early.

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<v Speaker 1>We've seen the Rams doing in the past, where the

0:19:20.240 --> 0:19:23.280
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys elect to play at a quicker tempo. I know

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<v Speaker 1>it's something that Mike McCarthy typically has in his bag.

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<v Speaker 1>Will you see the Cowboys go no huddle and rip

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<v Speaker 1>off four or five plays to see if they can

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<v Speaker 1>test the depth of the Rams defense? All right, Bucky,

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<v Speaker 1>before we let you go, I'm gonna put you on

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<v Speaker 1>the spot here. We usually make our picks on Fridays

0:19:38.640 --> 0:19:40.439
<v Speaker 1>is Thursday, so I'm gonna ask you to give us

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<v Speaker 1>a pick. Looking at this matchup, who do you think

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<v Speaker 1>wins this game? Oh? I think the Cowboys win this game.

0:19:46.760 --> 0:19:49.120
<v Speaker 1>I think the Cowboys had the advantages on both sides

0:19:49.119 --> 0:19:52.040
<v Speaker 1>of the ball. Offensively, I think they have overwhelming talent.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they can overwhelm the Rams from a defensive standpoint.

0:19:55.440 --> 0:19:58.199
<v Speaker 1>People will not talk about the Rams offensive line, but

0:19:58.240 --> 0:20:01.479
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys front seven have a decided advantage. And if

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<v Speaker 1>there's one match up to wats look for everything Griffin

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<v Speaker 1>to where our Andrew Whitworth Andrew Whitworth is a declining player.

0:20:08.320 --> 0:20:11.320
<v Speaker 1>Everson Griffin is a high end player. He should have

0:20:11.440 --> 0:20:13.560
<v Speaker 1>a dominant game and if he hits Jerry Golf a

0:20:13.640 --> 0:20:16.040
<v Speaker 1>couple of times, it will change the tenor of this performance.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, man, Well, we appreciate it, really great analysis

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<v Speaker 1>this week. Love that, and we'll be hitting you up

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<v Speaker 1>next week. Have you back on next Wednesday and thirds

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<v Speaker 1>it still then, appreciate you join us. We're gonna take

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<v Speaker 1>a quick break when we come back. Well, thankfully getting

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<v Speaker 1>Nick back on here and we'll continue talking Cowboys versus Rams.

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<v Speaker 1>time with us. We just finished our interview with Bucky

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<v Speaker 1>Brooks against some really interesting things he had to say.

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<v Speaker 1>Hope you guys are enjoying that. We're gonna have him on,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I said, every Wednesday and Thursday. He'll be a

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<v Speaker 1>part of the show giving us some good analysis on

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<v Speaker 1>the opposing team's offense and defense. Um, let's talk a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit about the Rams matchup. I had some questions

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<v Speaker 1>for you guys. The first thing I want to hear

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<v Speaker 1>from you guys about is you know, how do you

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<v Speaker 1>think the Cowboys handled the challenge of Aaron Donald Dave.

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<v Speaker 1>I know in the in the segment with Bucky you

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<v Speaker 1>talked about how you know last time Cowboys played they

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<v Speaker 1>actually handled him pretty well. Relatively speaking for Aaron Donalds

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<v Speaker 1>and Dominican suit I was given him a lot of problems,

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<v Speaker 1>but he still is a dynamic player, and I would

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<v Speaker 1>say probably the most dynamic player on their defense. That

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<v Speaker 1>being said, how do you think the Cowboys managed that?

0:23:32.200 --> 0:23:37.120
<v Speaker 1>Let's start first with you, Nick, Well, I think that

0:23:37.600 --> 0:23:40.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, we'll see where he lines up. I mean,

0:23:40.440 --> 0:23:42.639
<v Speaker 1>like that's the thing about preseason games. You don't know,

0:23:42.880 --> 0:23:44.280
<v Speaker 1>and not that he was going to play a lot

0:23:44.320 --> 0:23:47.159
<v Speaker 1>of preseason games anyways, but they handle him with with

0:23:47.200 --> 0:23:50.159
<v Speaker 1>whoever's in front. It'll be Connor Williams, it'll be Joe Looney,

0:23:50.200 --> 0:23:52.919
<v Speaker 1>it'll be Zach Martin, and then but it'll be a

0:23:53.000 --> 0:23:54.960
<v Speaker 1>combination of all of those. You have to find out

0:23:54.960 --> 0:23:57.639
<v Speaker 1>where he's gonna line up first, and then you know,

0:23:57.680 --> 0:24:00.400
<v Speaker 1>that's where the it's so important for the line calls

0:24:00.400 --> 0:24:02.840
<v Speaker 1>for Joe Looney to be on point with what he's

0:24:02.880 --> 0:24:05.640
<v Speaker 1>doing and where that they're going to shift things towards

0:24:05.640 --> 0:24:08.359
<v Speaker 1>Aaron Donald. They have to, because even Zach Martin I

0:24:08.359 --> 0:24:14.240
<v Speaker 1>think would have problems with him one on one. Amber Well,

0:24:14.240 --> 0:24:16.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, I hear the name Aaron Donald and I'm like,

0:24:16.760 --> 0:24:20.399
<v Speaker 1>oh wouch. Then Bucky came out here making it sound

0:24:20.520 --> 0:24:23.480
<v Speaker 1>like the Cowboys are gonna be able to handle him.

0:24:23.520 --> 0:24:26.440
<v Speaker 1>No big deal that. I mean, he did speak of

0:24:26.560 --> 0:24:29.520
<v Speaker 1>how good of a player he is, but he somehow

0:24:30.240 --> 0:24:34.000
<v Speaker 1>brought down my anxiety level a little bit going into

0:24:34.040 --> 0:24:37.000
<v Speaker 1>this game. I think the Cowboys just find the way.

0:24:37.040 --> 0:24:39.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's nothing else to add to what Nick

0:24:39.080 --> 0:24:41.480
<v Speaker 1>said is basically who's in front of him, and maybe

0:24:41.480 --> 0:24:46.240
<v Speaker 1>get a couple of guys to help detain him, and

0:24:46.480 --> 0:24:49.520
<v Speaker 1>we'll just see. I mean, with all the current problems

0:24:49.520 --> 0:24:51.520
<v Speaker 1>that the Cowboys are dealing with in the old line,

0:24:51.520 --> 0:24:53.960
<v Speaker 1>he'll be interested to see how they figure out the

0:24:54.040 --> 0:25:00.240
<v Speaker 1>right matchup there, Dave. I just think, and you're not wrong,

0:25:00.280 --> 0:25:02.479
<v Speaker 1>Age in my opinion. That's sort of why I'd rot

0:25:02.520 --> 0:25:04.960
<v Speaker 1>it up to Bucky is. I think the world of

0:25:05.000 --> 0:25:07.440
<v Speaker 1>Aaron Donald and he's gonna make some plays in this game,

0:25:07.480 --> 0:25:10.479
<v Speaker 1>if I had to guess. But he doesn't have a

0:25:10.480 --> 0:25:12.680
<v Speaker 1>ton of help, you know, like I said in the

0:25:12.720 --> 0:25:15.160
<v Speaker 1>playoffs a couple of years ago, he had in Dominican

0:25:15.240 --> 0:25:18.239
<v Speaker 1>Sue to make plays when when he couldn't. You know,

0:25:18.480 --> 0:25:22.120
<v Speaker 1>they had Dante Fowler during you know, their their success

0:25:22.119 --> 0:25:25.680
<v Speaker 1>over the last couple of years again, Sampson evycom good

0:25:25.920 --> 0:25:27.800
<v Speaker 1>role player. I don't think he's ever been asked to

0:25:27.840 --> 0:25:31.320
<v Speaker 1>do this much. And Leonard Floyd first round pick, but

0:25:31.480 --> 0:25:33.879
<v Speaker 1>who has not really grown into that type of talent.

0:25:34.040 --> 0:25:37.359
<v Speaker 1>So Aaron Donald's gonna make plays, if I had to guess.

0:25:37.520 --> 0:25:42.159
<v Speaker 1>But I think, you know, between those three guys, hopefully, Hey, Rams,

0:25:42.160 --> 0:25:43.720
<v Speaker 1>if you want to put Donald in front of Zach

0:25:43.760 --> 0:25:46.439
<v Speaker 1>Martin as often as possible, that would be great. But

0:25:46.520 --> 0:25:48.400
<v Speaker 1>between the three of them, I think they can deal

0:25:48.400 --> 0:25:50.640
<v Speaker 1>with it. And I just don't think there's anybody else

0:25:50.680 --> 0:25:53.840
<v Speaker 1>in that front seven that scares me, Like for you know,

0:25:54.119 --> 0:25:57.560
<v Speaker 1>the fact that Lyell Collins can't play. I would like

0:25:57.640 --> 0:26:00.159
<v Speaker 1>to think this is a favorable matchup for for Im

0:26:00.200 --> 0:26:03.240
<v Speaker 1>Irving or whoever else plays that spot, that they should

0:26:03.280 --> 0:26:05.920
<v Speaker 1>be able to handle that while everybody else worries about

0:26:05.920 --> 0:26:11.680
<v Speaker 1>Aaron Donald. Yeah, if they move him around Donald a lot,

0:26:11.880 --> 0:26:14.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean theoretically he can do any I mean, yeah,

0:26:14.840 --> 0:26:18.679
<v Speaker 1>they play him all over the interior. He's lined up

0:26:18.680 --> 0:26:22.400
<v Speaker 1>at end on occasion, like, they can put him wherever

0:26:22.440 --> 0:26:25.600
<v Speaker 1>they want him. But I would guess that Connor Williams

0:26:25.600 --> 0:26:27.960
<v Speaker 1>and Zach Martin are going to do the bulk of

0:26:28.000 --> 0:26:30.280
<v Speaker 1>that work. And you know the interesting thing there is,

0:26:30.320 --> 0:26:32.479
<v Speaker 1>if I were the Rams, I would probably look at

0:26:32.520 --> 0:26:34.639
<v Speaker 1>this like, I really want to have him matched up

0:26:34.640 --> 0:26:37.920
<v Speaker 1>on Connor Williams because I want to test Connor Williams strength.

0:26:38.240 --> 0:26:41.359
<v Speaker 1>That's been the area where he struggled throughout his career.

0:26:41.600 --> 0:26:43.600
<v Speaker 1>Now it may be very different this year. He may

0:26:43.640 --> 0:26:45.720
<v Speaker 1>have corrected some of those things. He may be a

0:26:45.840 --> 0:26:49.120
<v Speaker 1>much stronger player at this point than maybe he's been

0:26:49.160 --> 0:26:50.959
<v Speaker 1>in the past. But if I with him, that's how

0:26:51.000 --> 0:26:52.879
<v Speaker 1>I would look at it. I would look at opportunities

0:26:52.920 --> 0:26:55.920
<v Speaker 1>to be able to really challenge him, and that may

0:26:56.000 --> 0:26:58.879
<v Speaker 1>mean I get an overload that side a little bit,

0:26:58.920 --> 0:27:02.840
<v Speaker 1>so I late Joe Luney, I isolate him, I isolate Tyrant,

0:27:02.880 --> 0:27:05.439
<v Speaker 1>so they're all having to worry about different guys, and

0:27:05.480 --> 0:27:07.359
<v Speaker 1>then see if I can get Aaron Donald one on

0:27:07.359 --> 0:27:09.560
<v Speaker 1>one to be able to get the best of Connor Williams.

0:27:09.560 --> 0:27:11.520
<v Speaker 1>I think that's their best matchup. Because I agree with you, Dave,

0:27:11.560 --> 0:27:13.919
<v Speaker 1>I don't think they have a ton of other guys

0:27:14.280 --> 0:27:16.480
<v Speaker 1>on their defensive front that really are gonna in a

0:27:16.600 --> 0:27:19.680
<v Speaker 1>one on one situation. I think would really take advantage

0:27:20.040 --> 0:27:22.399
<v Speaker 1>of the Cowboys let's flipber to the other side of

0:27:22.400 --> 0:27:25.040
<v Speaker 1>the ball. And I look at this receiving corps for

0:27:25.080 --> 0:27:28.320
<v Speaker 1>the Rams and I think, personally, I think it's their

0:27:28.359 --> 0:27:31.680
<v Speaker 1>best position by far as far as just depth and

0:27:32.040 --> 0:27:34.240
<v Speaker 1>the guys that they throw out there. You've got Cooper Cup,

0:27:34.359 --> 0:27:36.960
<v Speaker 1>You've got Robert Brooks, and you've got Van Jefferson, all

0:27:37.040 --> 0:27:40.560
<v Speaker 1>quality receivers. Van Jefferson being a rookie, but still quality

0:27:40.560 --> 0:27:43.480
<v Speaker 1>player from everything that we've heard of him going into

0:27:43.480 --> 0:27:46.919
<v Speaker 1>the draft. That being said, how well do you think

0:27:46.960 --> 0:27:49.680
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys are equipped in the secondary to be able

0:27:49.680 --> 0:27:51.919
<v Speaker 1>to handle a group of wide receivers that are this

0:27:52.000 --> 0:27:54.160
<v Speaker 1>deep and this good. Let's start first with you, Nick,

0:27:55.840 --> 0:27:58.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's a good matchup for the Cowboys.

0:27:58.119 --> 0:28:00.679
<v Speaker 1>I think the Rams would get to Checkmark if you

0:28:00.720 --> 0:28:03.560
<v Speaker 1>were doing that, you know, old school and Tangibles type,

0:28:03.600 --> 0:28:07.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, down the line. Just because Robert Woods, Cooper Cup,

0:28:07.560 --> 0:28:10.359
<v Speaker 1>they're they're better receivers than what the Cowboys have at corner,

0:28:10.480 --> 0:28:12.680
<v Speaker 1>at least what we see. And the Cowboys are banged

0:28:12.720 --> 0:28:15.240
<v Speaker 1>up there. Cheeto has been banged up. Jordan Lewis may

0:28:15.240 --> 0:28:18.399
<v Speaker 1>not play. Anthony Brown is one of your best players.

0:28:18.400 --> 0:28:20.080
<v Speaker 1>I got a rookie over there at Treyvon Dick, So

0:28:20.240 --> 0:28:22.400
<v Speaker 1>just a lot of question marks. Cooper Cups, I think

0:28:22.440 --> 0:28:24.399
<v Speaker 1>one of the more underrated players in the league. He

0:28:24.440 --> 0:28:28.480
<v Speaker 1>may not be that well known to everybody, but he

0:28:28.560 --> 0:28:31.560
<v Speaker 1>scores touchdowns. He scores a lot of touchdowns. He's a

0:28:31.560 --> 0:28:37.760
<v Speaker 1>good red zone player. Amber I just think this is

0:28:37.760 --> 0:28:41.320
<v Speaker 1>one of those games that I hope the Cowboys defensive

0:28:41.360 --> 0:28:44.760
<v Speaker 1>line is able to create some pressure and help them out,

0:28:44.880 --> 0:28:48.080
<v Speaker 1>help the secondary out. But that was pointed at me.

0:28:48.480 --> 0:28:52.200
<v Speaker 1>We'll see. I'm not gonna start the argument again with you,

0:28:52.800 --> 0:28:56.840
<v Speaker 1>but we had last yesterday. But I do think that

0:28:57.000 --> 0:28:59.520
<v Speaker 1>the this is one area where the Rams do have

0:28:59.560 --> 0:29:04.640
<v Speaker 1>an advance an inch over the Cowboys. Dave Nick took

0:29:04.680 --> 0:29:06.640
<v Speaker 1>the words right out of my mouth, Like, you know,

0:29:06.760 --> 0:29:10.080
<v Speaker 1>I always talk about how underrated I think Ryan Carrigan is.

0:29:10.480 --> 0:29:14.959
<v Speaker 1>Cooper cup is kind of entering that conversation in terms of, like,

0:29:15.120 --> 0:29:17.320
<v Speaker 1>I just don't think he gets the credit that he deserves.

0:29:17.320 --> 0:29:20.600
<v Speaker 1>And if I were the Rams, I would be leaning

0:29:20.600 --> 0:29:22.840
<v Speaker 1>on him because I mean, he can do a little

0:29:22.840 --> 0:29:24.880
<v Speaker 1>bit of everything. He can play inside, he can play outside.

0:29:24.920 --> 0:29:29.800
<v Speaker 1>But you know, theoretically we think Jordan Lewis would be

0:29:29.840 --> 0:29:32.959
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys top choice at nickel back. He's probably not

0:29:33.000 --> 0:29:36.400
<v Speaker 1>gonna play. You're probably looking at Daryl Worley and maybe

0:29:36.440 --> 0:29:39.120
<v Speaker 1>a little mix of Anthony Brown as your slot guys.

0:29:39.720 --> 0:29:41.880
<v Speaker 1>I would be trying to take advantage of that matchup.

0:29:41.920 --> 0:29:44.320
<v Speaker 1>If I were the Rams, I think Cooper Cup can

0:29:44.360 --> 0:29:47.560
<v Speaker 1>be your your safety net and also a big play threat.

0:29:48.320 --> 0:29:49.760
<v Speaker 1>You know, I would be trying to get the ball

0:29:49.800 --> 0:29:51.440
<v Speaker 1>to him as offen as possible. That's not a knock

0:29:51.480 --> 0:29:54.880
<v Speaker 1>on the other guys. But you know, I don't. I

0:29:54.920 --> 0:29:58.240
<v Speaker 1>don't dislike, you know, all for all the trash people

0:29:58.280 --> 0:30:00.680
<v Speaker 1>want to talk about him, Like, I think chet Woods

0:30:00.760 --> 0:30:03.120
<v Speaker 1>Cheeto can probably hold his own against Robert Woods more

0:30:03.160 --> 0:30:06.680
<v Speaker 1>often than not. But I just worry about Cup's ability

0:30:06.720 --> 0:30:09.320
<v Speaker 1>to get open inside and outside. You know, I will

0:30:09.360 --> 0:30:11.560
<v Speaker 1>say this, Dave, I actually I agree with you. The

0:30:11.600 --> 0:30:15.360
<v Speaker 1>Cooper Cup is a very, in my opinion, somewhat underrated player.

0:30:15.600 --> 0:30:17.360
<v Speaker 1>I actually think the same with Robert Brooks. I think

0:30:17.440 --> 0:30:19.720
<v Speaker 1>Robert Brooks is a really, really good ride receiver that

0:30:19.760 --> 0:30:24.040
<v Speaker 1>doesn't always get I'm sorry, Robert Woods. I'm thinking Robert

0:30:24.080 --> 0:30:27.280
<v Speaker 1>Brooks from back is that the Packers back in the nineties,

0:30:27.360 --> 0:30:32.160
<v Speaker 1>Robert Brooks. Yeah, Robert, No, Robert probably play he probably

0:30:32.160 --> 0:30:35.719
<v Speaker 1>played Boks right, probably, so maybe I'm getting it all reviews.

0:30:36.000 --> 0:30:38.600
<v Speaker 1>But no, Robert Brooks. I think he is a guy

0:30:38.920 --> 0:30:43.480
<v Speaker 1>that is that is I'm sorry, Robert Woods. Sorry, very

0:30:43.640 --> 0:30:47.600
<v Speaker 1>very very rated, very underweight rated player. I think he

0:30:47.680 --> 0:30:50.600
<v Speaker 1>is a really good right, a really good wide receiver.

0:30:50.920 --> 0:30:53.280
<v Speaker 1>And I actually think that that's where you're in this

0:30:53.360 --> 0:30:55.600
<v Speaker 1>if I were looking at these matchups, I think that's

0:30:55.640 --> 0:30:57.560
<v Speaker 1>the guy that I'm more worried about, even a little

0:30:57.600 --> 0:31:00.680
<v Speaker 1>bit more than Cup for this particular game. All right,

0:31:00.960 --> 0:31:02.840
<v Speaker 1>final question I have for you guys on this Rams

0:31:02.840 --> 0:31:07.400
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys matchup. How concerned are you that Jalen Ramsey will

0:31:07.440 --> 0:31:10.440
<v Speaker 1>take Amari Cooper out of this game? We saw last

0:31:10.480 --> 0:31:12.800
<v Speaker 1>season there were some games when Mary matched up against

0:31:12.800 --> 0:31:15.040
<v Speaker 1>some of the premier corners in the league where he

0:31:15.120 --> 0:31:17.360
<v Speaker 1>wasn't at his best, He didn't have his best games.

0:31:17.520 --> 0:31:20.840
<v Speaker 1>Do you think this is one of those games. Let's

0:31:20.880 --> 0:31:24.320
<v Speaker 1>start with you. I don't care, Nick, Let's start with

0:31:24.360 --> 0:31:30.080
<v Speaker 1>you on the road. It is a road game. Wait,

0:31:30.600 --> 0:31:34.120
<v Speaker 1>but there's no fans, so I don't know that's a

0:31:34.120 --> 0:31:36.480
<v Speaker 1>good one. I don't know. I don't know what Marie

0:31:36.520 --> 0:31:39.200
<v Speaker 1>Cooper is like with no fans. You know, we've seen

0:31:39.240 --> 0:31:41.880
<v Speaker 1>this before with with other guys that try to, you know,

0:31:41.960 --> 0:31:44.560
<v Speaker 1>match up with him one on one. It's not good

0:31:44.560 --> 0:31:46.800
<v Speaker 1>for the Rams to do that. It's really not like

0:31:46.960 --> 0:31:49.120
<v Speaker 1>if Jayalen Ramsey or anybody wants to say, well, I

0:31:49.160 --> 0:31:51.160
<v Speaker 1>go one on one with a Mary Cooper, that's not

0:31:51.200 --> 0:31:54.120
<v Speaker 1>a good matchup because that that means that the other

0:31:54.120 --> 0:31:56.160
<v Speaker 1>guys are gonna go one on one with their second

0:31:56.160 --> 0:31:59.000
<v Speaker 1>and third guys. So I don't know, good luck with that,

0:31:59.000 --> 0:32:01.280
<v Speaker 1>because I don't think Jaylen Ramsey will win every matchup

0:32:01.320 --> 0:32:03.920
<v Speaker 1>with Amari Cooper, and then you've got you're kind of

0:32:04.240 --> 0:32:07.040
<v Speaker 1>you're you're fixing your whole defense around based off of

0:32:07.040 --> 0:32:09.560
<v Speaker 1>that matchup. So I think the Cowboys would welcome if

0:32:09.640 --> 0:32:13.160
<v Speaker 1>Jalen Ramsey does that. Yeah, shadow him, follow him, hold

0:32:13.240 --> 0:32:15.360
<v Speaker 1>him to hold him to two catches for fifteen yards.

0:32:15.400 --> 0:32:17.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't care. That's why I drafted Ceedee Lamb. That's

0:32:17.800 --> 0:32:20.640
<v Speaker 1>what he's here for. Go ahead, like shadow them all

0:32:20.680 --> 0:32:24.520
<v Speaker 1>you want, Like I'm sorry about your fantasy team Cowboy fans.

0:32:24.840 --> 0:32:29.280
<v Speaker 1>If Amari Cooper catches, if a Marie catches two balls

0:32:29.320 --> 0:32:33.200
<v Speaker 1>for fifteen yards, but Gallup has eighty five and Lamb

0:32:33.240 --> 0:32:36.760
<v Speaker 1>has sixty and two touchdowns. I don't care, and so

0:32:36.800 --> 0:32:39.280
<v Speaker 1>that's just kind of how I feel about it. Um,

0:32:39.320 --> 0:32:43.160
<v Speaker 1>if they want, if they want Ramsey to travel with Coop,

0:32:43.240 --> 0:32:46.520
<v Speaker 1>that's that'say, okay with me, because we got three of them,

0:32:46.560 --> 0:32:48.680
<v Speaker 1>that's what they're here for. You agree with all that,

0:32:48.720 --> 0:32:54.160
<v Speaker 1>Amber absolutely, not just three, Not just the receivers. We

0:32:54.240 --> 0:32:57.320
<v Speaker 1>got the running backs too, who can do their own things.

0:32:57.400 --> 0:33:00.520
<v Speaker 1>So I'm not worried about it. The Cowboys have enough

0:33:00.560 --> 0:33:05.520
<v Speaker 1>weapons on the offense, all right, Dave, Dave's writing about

0:33:05.560 --> 0:33:08.320
<v Speaker 1>the fantasy team. If you got Dak, that's pretty pretty good.

0:33:08.440 --> 0:33:12.280
<v Speaker 1>Zeke is good. Other than that, I want no part

0:33:12.400 --> 0:33:14.640
<v Speaker 1>because it's gonna be a week to week thing. Yeah,

0:33:14.680 --> 0:33:16.920
<v Speaker 1>it's good for the team. Yeah, absolutely, all right, we're

0:33:16.920 --> 0:33:19.400
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0:33:19.440 --> 0:33:23.120
<v Speaker 1>go ahead, Dave. What you got? Oh? I just I've

0:33:23.160 --> 0:33:25.160
<v Speaker 1>got Jarwin and I feel good about it. That's all

0:33:25.160 --> 0:33:27.120
<v Speaker 1>I'll say. Nick does too, don't you. Oh no, you

0:33:27.160 --> 0:33:28.800
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0:33:28.800 --> 0:33:31.320
<v Speaker 1>get him. Didn't get him. We're not gonna get into

0:33:31.320 --> 0:33:33.680
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<v Speaker 1>the final segment of the Braake. We're a lot from

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<v Speaker 1>the s WBC Mortgage studios at the Star and we

0:35:55.560 --> 0:35:57.440
<v Speaker 1>got a little game for you guys today. In this

0:35:57.560 --> 0:36:00.839
<v Speaker 1>final segment, we're gonna call this game, I know, I

0:36:00.880 --> 0:36:03.719
<v Speaker 1>think I have no idea. What we're gonna do is

0:36:03.719 --> 0:36:06.160
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna start. Each of us is going to start

0:36:06.600 --> 0:36:08.840
<v Speaker 1>our sentence with I know, and we'll go around and

0:36:08.880 --> 0:36:12.640
<v Speaker 1>see what everyone knows. Then I think what everyone thinks,

0:36:12.719 --> 0:36:15.799
<v Speaker 1>and then I have no idea and what everyone has

0:36:15.880 --> 0:36:18.040
<v Speaker 1>no idea about. All right, so let's start first with

0:36:18.239 --> 0:36:20.160
<v Speaker 1>I know. I'll go first to kick this off, so

0:36:20.200 --> 0:36:22.160
<v Speaker 1>you guys get an idea of what the game is.

0:36:22.800 --> 0:36:26.279
<v Speaker 1>I know the Cowboys are the most talented team in

0:36:26.320 --> 0:36:34.719
<v Speaker 1>the NFC East. Anybody agreed disagree with that? I don't

0:36:34.760 --> 0:36:37.440
<v Speaker 1>know it. I don't know that. I think I know

0:36:37.520 --> 0:36:39.600
<v Speaker 1>it right now. I mean, if the Eagles didn't have

0:36:39.680 --> 0:36:42.319
<v Speaker 1>so many injuries, I think they could probably argue. But

0:36:42.440 --> 0:36:45.400
<v Speaker 1>they're just they're so banged up right now, you know,

0:36:45.560 --> 0:36:51.400
<v Speaker 1>losing starting offensive linemen, losing receivers, their quarterbacks skimpy. What

0:36:51.520 --> 0:36:54.520
<v Speaker 1>else is new? So yeah, I mean, no, I agree

0:36:54.520 --> 0:36:57.200
<v Speaker 1>with you right now? All right, all right, let's go

0:36:57.200 --> 0:37:02.600
<v Speaker 1>with you, Amber. I mean, I'm sorry, Nicko, Jeff. No. Basically,

0:37:02.640 --> 0:37:04.359
<v Speaker 1>what I was gonna say is I know that that

0:37:04.400 --> 0:37:07.120
<v Speaker 1>doesn't always matter. That's what I know talent. I mean,

0:37:07.160 --> 0:37:08.840
<v Speaker 1>it's great. It's great to say it's good to have

0:37:08.920 --> 0:37:12.040
<v Speaker 1>the players, but I know for a fact that having

0:37:12.080 --> 0:37:14.600
<v Speaker 1>the best players doesn't always mean you're gonna have those

0:37:14.760 --> 0:37:17.359
<v Speaker 1>NFC East hats at the end. Yeah, Frankly, I think

0:37:17.400 --> 0:37:19.680
<v Speaker 1>they had the most talented team in the NFC slash

0:37:19.760 --> 0:37:23.080
<v Speaker 1>year and it didn't obviously make a difference. So yeah,

0:37:23.640 --> 0:37:29.200
<v Speaker 1>they did. This one could go into the I think category,

0:37:29.400 --> 0:37:32.680
<v Speaker 1>but I'm gonna choose it for my I know, I

0:37:32.880 --> 0:37:36.640
<v Speaker 1>know that Blake Jarwin is gonna have a really good season.

0:37:37.239 --> 0:37:41.080
<v Speaker 1>Dak Preske is gonna utilize him a lot. Blake has

0:37:41.239 --> 0:37:44.839
<v Speaker 1>had a great, amazing training camp. In my eyes, he's

0:37:44.880 --> 0:37:48.160
<v Speaker 1>done a great job catching the ball, blocking, getting open.

0:37:48.480 --> 0:37:51.839
<v Speaker 1>I feel that Dak is gonna it's just like he

0:37:51.880 --> 0:37:54.880
<v Speaker 1>gets in the area where Dad feels comfortable, So I

0:37:54.880 --> 0:37:57.239
<v Speaker 1>think he's gonna DAC is gonna be looking for him

0:37:57.480 --> 0:38:00.960
<v Speaker 1>quite a lot. Regardless of the fact that we keep

0:38:01.000 --> 0:38:04.839
<v Speaker 1>talking about all these amazing wide receivers that they currently have.

0:38:05.160 --> 0:38:08.240
<v Speaker 1>I think that Blake Jarwin is gonna be that safety

0:38:08.280 --> 0:38:11.560
<v Speaker 1>blanket for Dak Prescott throughout the season. What are you

0:38:11.600 --> 0:38:16.160
<v Speaker 1>doing stealing my talking point? I'm the Jarwin guy. I've

0:38:16.200 --> 0:38:20.800
<v Speaker 1>been the Jarwin guy. Okay too, So answer this question.

0:38:20.960 --> 0:38:24.200
<v Speaker 1>Usually we're usually aligned. If you guys both think he's

0:38:24.239 --> 0:38:26.200
<v Speaker 1>gonna have a good season, defined for me, what you

0:38:26.280 --> 0:38:29.040
<v Speaker 1>call a good season statistically? What would be a good

0:38:29.040 --> 0:38:32.120
<v Speaker 1>season for him? That's a very it's a very good

0:38:32.200 --> 0:38:35.640
<v Speaker 1>question because there's obviously a lot of um, there's a

0:38:35.640 --> 0:38:39.359
<v Speaker 1>lot of competing people for targets. Like I understand that

0:38:42.000 --> 0:38:44.440
<v Speaker 1>a successful season first of all, Like I'm looking for

0:38:44.520 --> 0:38:46.520
<v Speaker 1>splash plays more than anything. I don't need him to

0:38:46.520 --> 0:38:49.279
<v Speaker 1>catch a hundred balls. That would be weird. But I

0:38:49.320 --> 0:38:52.680
<v Speaker 1>think he's got great potential to be a red zone mismatch.

0:38:52.920 --> 0:38:56.000
<v Speaker 1>It's been something that's been lacking from this offense in

0:38:56.040 --> 0:38:59.759
<v Speaker 1>my opinion. So you know, I think he's got the potential.

0:39:00.120 --> 0:39:02.640
<v Speaker 1>What Yeah, I think he had three touchdowns last year.

0:39:03.640 --> 0:39:06.400
<v Speaker 1>I think he's got the potential for somewhere between six

0:39:06.440 --> 0:39:08.399
<v Speaker 1>and ten if they use him in the red zone

0:39:08.400 --> 0:39:12.319
<v Speaker 1>the way that I think they can, and then you know,

0:39:12.480 --> 0:39:16.840
<v Speaker 1>if he catches fifty balls for seven eight hundred yards,

0:39:16.880 --> 0:39:22.680
<v Speaker 1>I think that's doable. All right, Nick, What do you know? Well,

0:39:22.719 --> 0:39:25.640
<v Speaker 1>I know I suck at technology. I know that I

0:39:25.719 --> 0:39:29.799
<v Speaker 1>know that I'll figure this out at some point before Thanksgiving.

0:39:29.960 --> 0:39:35.040
<v Speaker 1>I know that I know Ezekiel Elliott is a dang

0:39:35.200 --> 0:39:38.359
<v Speaker 1>running back. And I say that because I feel like

0:39:38.520 --> 0:39:41.800
<v Speaker 1>there's this narrative that he's gonna just turn into Alvin

0:39:41.880 --> 0:39:44.120
<v Speaker 1>Kamara or something like that, because he's working on his

0:39:44.160 --> 0:39:46.720
<v Speaker 1>past and receiving and so, yeah, that's nice and great,

0:39:46.920 --> 0:39:48.919
<v Speaker 1>and I know we try to get him the ball

0:39:49.000 --> 0:39:50.960
<v Speaker 1>more and get him more in the passing game, but

0:39:50.960 --> 0:39:52.960
<v Speaker 1>he's a running back. They need to run the ball.

0:39:52.960 --> 0:39:55.719
<v Speaker 1>He's gonna be the guy running the ball between the tackles.

0:39:56.200 --> 0:39:58.560
<v Speaker 1>If all goes right, he's gonna be running out the

0:39:58.600 --> 0:40:01.560
<v Speaker 1>clock in these games. And so yes, he might be

0:40:01.680 --> 0:40:04.240
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more as a pass receiver at times,

0:40:04.600 --> 0:40:06.719
<v Speaker 1>but on third and one, third and two, you know

0:40:06.800 --> 0:40:09.120
<v Speaker 1>exactly where he's gonna be and where he's going to

0:40:09.160 --> 0:40:10.960
<v Speaker 1>get the ball, and they got to figure out how

0:40:11.000 --> 0:40:13.440
<v Speaker 1>to pick it up. So yeah, it's nice and cute

0:40:13.480 --> 0:40:15.480
<v Speaker 1>that he's getting a few passes here and there. He

0:40:15.560 --> 0:40:17.680
<v Speaker 1>needs to be running that football, and I think that's

0:40:17.719 --> 0:40:20.600
<v Speaker 1>exactly what he's going to be doing. All right, Dave,

0:40:20.640 --> 0:40:26.120
<v Speaker 1>tell us what you know. I know that Dak Prescott

0:40:26.200 --> 0:40:30.280
<v Speaker 1>is going to have the absolute best season of his career.

0:40:30.960 --> 0:40:33.160
<v Speaker 1>It won't even be debatable by the time it's all

0:40:33.200 --> 0:40:36.880
<v Speaker 1>said and done. I think that's true for a variety

0:40:36.880 --> 0:40:39.560
<v Speaker 1>of reasons. I think he's gotten better every year of

0:40:39.640 --> 0:40:43.480
<v Speaker 1>his career, and that was with coaching sometimes getting in

0:40:43.520 --> 0:40:45.600
<v Speaker 1>the way of that. In my opinion, he's got more

0:40:45.680 --> 0:40:48.400
<v Speaker 1>talent around him than he ever has, and that's saying

0:40:48.400 --> 0:40:51.120
<v Speaker 1>a lot because he's been on talented offenses for most

0:40:51.120 --> 0:40:55.879
<v Speaker 1>of his career, with a very few exceptions. I think

0:40:55.920 --> 0:40:57.759
<v Speaker 1>he's going to downplay it, but I think he's got

0:40:57.760 --> 0:40:59.680
<v Speaker 1>a chip on his shoulder about not having a deal.

0:41:00.200 --> 0:41:03.200
<v Speaker 1>I know from having a relationship with him that he

0:41:03.320 --> 0:41:06.520
<v Speaker 1>lives off of being doubted. He wants to be doubted.

0:41:06.840 --> 0:41:09.799
<v Speaker 1>He wants to be able to shut people up and uh,

0:41:09.840 --> 0:41:12.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's a first world problem, but not getting

0:41:12.280 --> 0:41:14.440
<v Speaker 1>that deal is a way to fuel that fire, in

0:41:14.480 --> 0:41:18.920
<v Speaker 1>my opinion, And I just think, you know, adding Mike McCarthy,

0:41:19.120 --> 0:41:22.399
<v Speaker 1>having Kellen Moore here to to add to continue that,

0:41:22.560 --> 0:41:24.839
<v Speaker 1>you know, the continuity that he already had, I just

0:41:24.880 --> 0:41:27.600
<v Speaker 1>think the sky's the limit. I'm I'm not brave enough

0:41:27.640 --> 0:41:31.000
<v Speaker 1>to say I think he's gonna win MVP, but I

0:41:31.040 --> 0:41:32.840
<v Speaker 1>think he's gonna kill it. I think, you know, you know,

0:41:33.440 --> 0:41:37.160
<v Speaker 1>thirty thirty or more touchdowns, best efficiency numbers of his career.

0:41:37.320 --> 0:41:39.080
<v Speaker 1>And I think the Cowboys are gonna make the playoffs,

0:41:39.120 --> 0:41:41.040
<v Speaker 1>which was the big knock on him last year. So

0:41:41.440 --> 0:41:45.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm just I'm buying Dak stock all day, every day. Awesome, Amber,

0:41:46.000 --> 0:41:51.840
<v Speaker 1>what do They're gonna make the playoffs? So yeah, he's

0:41:51.840 --> 0:41:53.799
<v Speaker 1>gonna have to have some clutch moments if they're gonna

0:41:53.800 --> 0:41:56.760
<v Speaker 1>make the playoffs. They went what one in six against

0:41:57.280 --> 0:42:00.480
<v Speaker 1>playoff teams or winning teams last year, which people that

0:42:00.560 --> 0:42:03.000
<v Speaker 1>don't like Dak love to trot that out. They never

0:42:03.080 --> 0:42:05.040
<v Speaker 1>point out that that's never been the case in any

0:42:05.080 --> 0:42:08.160
<v Speaker 1>other year of his career. He's consistently done that against

0:42:08.200 --> 0:42:12.000
<v Speaker 1>winning teams every other year. I'm very confident saying that's

0:42:12.040 --> 0:42:15.160
<v Speaker 1>an outlier. So yeah, he's going to be clutch. I'm

0:42:15.160 --> 0:42:16.960
<v Speaker 1>not saying, you know, they're not gonna go sixteen to O,

0:42:17.480 --> 0:42:20.360
<v Speaker 1>but he will have moments. So Amber, what do you think?

0:42:23.239 --> 0:42:26.080
<v Speaker 1>I think that the Cowboys should be better in the

0:42:26.200 --> 0:42:29.440
<v Speaker 1>red zone this year, mainly because of all the offensive

0:42:29.520 --> 0:42:34.279
<v Speaker 1>weapons that they got. I saw certain and again it's

0:42:34.360 --> 0:42:37.400
<v Speaker 1>it's just so hard to evaluate everything during this training

0:42:37.440 --> 0:42:42.440
<v Speaker 1>camp practices. But from what I saw, I think they're

0:42:42.440 --> 0:42:46.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna have some improvement there and be able to score

0:42:46.080 --> 0:42:49.840
<v Speaker 1>more points than they wear last year. So that's what

0:42:49.960 --> 0:42:52.920
<v Speaker 1>I think. Though we'll see, all right, Nick, what do

0:42:52.960 --> 0:42:57.320
<v Speaker 1>you think? I think Dak's numbers are going to go down,

0:42:57.960 --> 0:43:00.320
<v Speaker 1>and I think that's a good thing. Every thing that

0:43:01.040 --> 0:43:03.200
<v Speaker 1>Dave just said about him having a good year and

0:43:03.239 --> 0:43:05.120
<v Speaker 1>he said a great year, and he said it's not

0:43:05.160 --> 0:43:07.400
<v Speaker 1>going to be debatable. I think it will be debated

0:43:07.440 --> 0:43:10.120
<v Speaker 1>by people that look at numbers because I don't think

0:43:10.120 --> 0:43:12.080
<v Speaker 1>he's going to have as many passing yards. But I

0:43:12.120 --> 0:43:14.719
<v Speaker 1>hope he doesn't because again, like I said, I think

0:43:14.760 --> 0:43:17.240
<v Speaker 1>these games need to be different in the fourth quarter,

0:43:17.560 --> 0:43:19.520
<v Speaker 1>running the ball a little bit more, not having to

0:43:19.600 --> 0:43:21.759
<v Speaker 1>sling it around because you're down twenty one points or

0:43:21.800 --> 0:43:24.839
<v Speaker 1>something like that. I think his numbers go down, Some

0:43:24.920 --> 0:43:27.839
<v Speaker 1>of his stats go down. I think his quarterback rating

0:43:27.880 --> 0:43:31.480
<v Speaker 1>goes up. Turnovers, you know, hopefully those go down. I

0:43:31.480 --> 0:43:33.600
<v Speaker 1>think his numbers won't look as good. I think he'll

0:43:33.600 --> 0:43:37.160
<v Speaker 1>be a better player though than he was last year. Dave,

0:43:37.200 --> 0:43:44.200
<v Speaker 1>what do you think I think that we are glossing

0:43:44.280 --> 0:43:48.480
<v Speaker 1>over some of this team's issues in the back seven

0:43:48.680 --> 0:43:50.560
<v Speaker 1>and this kind of I mean, we talked about this

0:43:50.600 --> 0:43:52.440
<v Speaker 1>at length yesterday, so we don't have to do it

0:43:52.480 --> 0:43:56.600
<v Speaker 1>too much. But everybody's happy at training camp. Everybody looks good.

0:43:56.680 --> 0:43:59.680
<v Speaker 1>You know, Layton and Jalen looked amazing throughout training camp.

0:44:00.200 --> 0:44:02.800
<v Speaker 1>We all feel good about what we saw from Trayvon Diggs.

0:44:03.360 --> 0:44:06.120
<v Speaker 1>Derek thinks that the safety position is as good as

0:44:06.120 --> 0:44:11.760
<v Speaker 1>it's ever been apparently, So everybody's feeling real happy. And

0:44:12.080 --> 0:44:17.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, the NFL is not usually that tidy. You know,

0:44:17.520 --> 0:44:19.960
<v Speaker 1>teams know what your weaknesses are, they know how to

0:44:20.040 --> 0:44:22.959
<v Speaker 1>exploit you. I don't think the world of Jared Goff,

0:44:23.120 --> 0:44:25.440
<v Speaker 1>but he is a pretty good quarterback. He's got some

0:44:25.520 --> 0:44:29.160
<v Speaker 1>damn good receivers. I just think that's going to be

0:44:29.200 --> 0:44:31.640
<v Speaker 1>an issue for this team probably, And that's not to say,

0:44:31.800 --> 0:44:34.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, they'll still win games, but it ain't the

0:44:34.960 --> 0:44:37.840
<v Speaker 1>legion of boom back there. And I feel like people

0:44:37.920 --> 0:44:40.960
<v Speaker 1>sort of a lot of rose colored glasses this time

0:44:41.000 --> 0:44:42.920
<v Speaker 1>of year, is what I'm trying to say. Just to

0:44:42.960 --> 0:44:45.400
<v Speaker 1>be clear, I don't think that the safety position is

0:44:45.400 --> 0:44:47.719
<v Speaker 1>the best it's been in a long time. I think

0:44:47.719 --> 0:44:50.239
<v Speaker 1>it's better than last year. But I will say this

0:44:50.640 --> 0:44:53.160
<v Speaker 1>real quick. What I do think is I think Trayvon

0:44:53.239 --> 0:44:55.160
<v Speaker 1>Diggs will be the best cornerback on this team by

0:44:55.200 --> 0:44:57.879
<v Speaker 1>the end of the season. I think I've seen enough

0:44:58.680 --> 0:45:01.879
<v Speaker 1>so far that I think he is going to be

0:45:01.920 --> 0:45:04.960
<v Speaker 1>a really, really great well. I think that's my point.

0:45:05.160 --> 0:45:06.879
<v Speaker 1>That's my point. I actually think there's I think there's

0:45:06.880 --> 0:45:09.080
<v Speaker 1>two parts of the eggs. I think there's two parts

0:45:09.080 --> 0:45:14.640
<v Speaker 1>of that led this team in time for one year. Right, No,

0:45:15.080 --> 0:45:19.080
<v Speaker 1>I get all that. I don't think. I don't think,

0:45:19.080 --> 0:45:21.480
<v Speaker 1>to be honest with you, they have another premiere cornerback.

0:45:21.800 --> 0:45:24.520
<v Speaker 1>I think they have a bunch of guys who are okay,

0:45:24.560 --> 0:45:26.600
<v Speaker 1>at best pretty good. I don't think they have a

0:45:26.600 --> 0:45:30.120
<v Speaker 1>premiere cornerback. I think trey Von Diggs has the kind

0:45:30.200 --> 0:45:32.879
<v Speaker 1>of acumen that I think he can end up being

0:45:32.920 --> 0:45:36.200
<v Speaker 1>what the Cowboys have been longing for a cornerback, not

0:45:36.280 --> 0:45:38.319
<v Speaker 1>just a guy that can actually cover, but a guy

0:45:38.320 --> 0:45:40.560
<v Speaker 1>that can get his hands on on balls and actually

0:45:40.680 --> 0:45:43.120
<v Speaker 1>turn the ball over. And so I think from that standpoint,

0:45:43.160 --> 0:45:45.000
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna make some of those plays this year, and

0:45:45.040 --> 0:45:47.319
<v Speaker 1>by the time the season is done, we're gonna be

0:45:47.320 --> 0:45:49.400
<v Speaker 1>talking about him in that way, he is actually a

0:45:49.440 --> 0:45:52.000
<v Speaker 1>game changer because he will make plays and turn the

0:45:52.040 --> 0:45:54.880
<v Speaker 1>ball over what the Cowboys haven't consistently had a cornerback

0:45:54.920 --> 0:45:57.160
<v Speaker 1>to do that in a very very very long time.

0:45:58.280 --> 0:46:02.160
<v Speaker 1>So there's me though, why you think he'll take too

0:46:02.200 --> 0:46:05.120
<v Speaker 1>many chances Because I think he's a I think he's

0:46:05.160 --> 0:46:07.080
<v Speaker 1>a guy that'll hit two home runs a game and

0:46:07.120 --> 0:46:09.399
<v Speaker 1>strike out three and and and I don't I mean

0:46:10.560 --> 0:46:13.600
<v Speaker 1>in a strikeout just one out, but in in football,

0:46:13.600 --> 0:46:15.799
<v Speaker 1>a cornerback, if you if you give up a big play.

0:46:15.880 --> 0:46:18.279
<v Speaker 1>I think he's a guy that can get interceptions. But

0:46:18.360 --> 0:46:19.799
<v Speaker 1>I think he's also going to be a guy that

0:46:19.800 --> 0:46:21.919
<v Speaker 1>will get double moved and get beat deep. And so

0:46:22.239 --> 0:46:24.160
<v Speaker 1>that's what's kind of scary. I think he can make

0:46:24.200 --> 0:46:26.480
<v Speaker 1>big plays for both teams, and that's not always good

0:46:26.480 --> 0:46:29.440
<v Speaker 1>for a corner I would I would be more worried

0:46:29.480 --> 0:46:31.640
<v Speaker 1>about that if I thought the Cowboys were gonna be

0:46:31.640 --> 0:46:34.839
<v Speaker 1>offensively challenged. I think the Cowboys are going to score

0:46:34.840 --> 0:46:36.279
<v Speaker 1>a ton of points. And so if you're gonna score

0:46:36.280 --> 0:46:38.680
<v Speaker 1>a ton of points, then to me, I can take

0:46:38.960 --> 0:46:41.080
<v Speaker 1>a cornerback that may give up give up some some

0:46:41.120 --> 0:46:44.200
<v Speaker 1>big plays. If he's also gonna make some big plays, right, um,

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<v Speaker 1>But if you if you're playing really really close games

0:46:46.560 --> 0:46:49.839
<v Speaker 1>that are you know, twenty seventeen games, then I think

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<v Speaker 1>in that instance I would agree with you, and I'd

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<v Speaker 1>be a lot more concerned with a guy that can

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<v Speaker 1>give a big play, because that usually would end up

0:46:55.520 --> 0:46:57.640
<v Speaker 1>being a game that you would lose real quick. Before

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<v Speaker 1>we end the show, let's get to I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's start first with you, Amber. What do you have

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<v Speaker 1>no idea about? I have no idea about many things,

0:47:07.040 --> 0:47:10.799
<v Speaker 1>but one of them, Honestly, I have no idea if

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<v Speaker 1>Kellen Moore is actually gonna be able to have another

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<v Speaker 1>great year. I wonder if the whole sophomore slump applies

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<v Speaker 1>into coaching or not. You know, he had a really

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<v Speaker 1>really good year last year. But and we keep talking great,

0:47:28.200 --> 0:47:31.400
<v Speaker 1>amazing things about the offense, all the guys that they

0:47:31.520 --> 0:47:35.040
<v Speaker 1>got and how intelligent Kellen Moore is and all of

0:47:35.080 --> 0:47:38.640
<v Speaker 1>that and the changes and not being so predictable anymore.

0:47:38.719 --> 0:47:41.719
<v Speaker 1>But at the same time, you have to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>take a step back and be like, Okay, anytime we

0:47:46.280 --> 0:47:50.200
<v Speaker 1>talk so highly about something, we've seen it before. Where

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<v Speaker 1>then the year starts and it doesn't turn out to

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<v Speaker 1>be that way. So I just have no idea if

0:47:57.120 --> 0:48:00.400
<v Speaker 1>Kellen Moore's offense is actually gonna be as good as

0:48:00.440 --> 0:48:05.960
<v Speaker 1>we keep talking about Dave. I mean, it would be

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<v Speaker 1>easy to say I have no idea if we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to play sixteen games, But in the interest of not

0:48:11.760 --> 0:48:14.360
<v Speaker 1>being a bummer, I think we all know what's going like,

0:48:14.400 --> 0:48:16.640
<v Speaker 1>we know the stakes with COVID, so we can just

0:48:16.760 --> 0:48:19.120
<v Speaker 1>address that as we get to it. But as far

0:48:19.160 --> 0:48:23.920
<v Speaker 1>as football, I have no idea how much I should

0:48:23.960 --> 0:48:28.120
<v Speaker 1>believe in this offensive line. And I know that I

0:48:28.160 --> 0:48:29.919
<v Speaker 1>said at the beginning of the week, and I still

0:48:29.920 --> 0:48:33.919
<v Speaker 1>feel this way. I'm concerned about Lyle Collins not being there,

0:48:34.320 --> 0:48:37.720
<v Speaker 1>but I'm not that concerned. But just in general, the whole,

0:48:37.760 --> 0:48:41.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, the whole puzzle of this thing. Lyle's already

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<v Speaker 1>on injured reserve. Tyrn Smith has basically been a lock

0:48:45.000 --> 0:48:48.319
<v Speaker 1>to miss three games for you know, three or four

0:48:48.400 --> 0:48:50.240
<v Speaker 1>years at this point. I mean, that's just a given.

0:48:51.480 --> 0:48:55.160
<v Speaker 1>Connor Williams is coming off of an acl and I just,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I have no idea what this thing. And

0:48:57.320 --> 0:48:59.160
<v Speaker 1>for that matter, he doesn't miss a ton of games.

0:48:59.200 --> 0:49:01.720
<v Speaker 1>But Zach Martin is dealt with injuries in recent seasons

0:49:01.719 --> 0:49:05.680
<v Speaker 1>as well, um so and and they're still good when

0:49:05.680 --> 0:49:07.759
<v Speaker 1>they're all healthy. But I guess that's the thing is

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<v Speaker 1>I have no idea what my expectations should be for

0:49:10.960 --> 0:49:14.040
<v Speaker 1>how they hold up. And that is a concern because

0:49:14.719 --> 0:49:17.560
<v Speaker 1>you need those guys available and playing well for everybody

0:49:17.600 --> 0:49:20.000
<v Speaker 1>else to look good. Nick, what do you have no

0:49:20.080 --> 0:49:24.359
<v Speaker 1>idea about? I I you know, I don't. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have any idea how how these games are going to

0:49:27.160 --> 0:49:30.520
<v Speaker 1>go with the setup of everything. I don't. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what having no fans is that going to help

0:49:34.000 --> 0:49:35.880
<v Speaker 1>the road team? Now? Is that? Is that going to

0:49:36.000 --> 0:49:39.040
<v Speaker 1>neutralize things? Does it? Does it affect the fans? Are

0:49:39.040 --> 0:49:41.000
<v Speaker 1>they going to pipe in crowd noise? I mean, are

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<v Speaker 1>they going to do it more for home teams or

0:49:42.719 --> 0:49:45.719
<v Speaker 1>less for when when the visiting team? I mean you're

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<v Speaker 1>factoring in the fact that all that you know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of Dallas fans typically that go to games

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<v Speaker 1>in LA. I doubt they're doing that. I'm just saying,

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<v Speaker 1>what does it look like when a guy catches a

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<v Speaker 1>pass on third and nine and he has a fourteen

0:49:55.400 --> 0:49:58.440
<v Speaker 1>yard pass late in the third quarter, What happens. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I don't know is Ze gonna be feeding

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<v Speaker 1>to who for what? I mean, Like I just I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure what's going to happen with an empty stadium.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I will end this with I have

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<v Speaker 1>no idea what Jalen Smith will be as a player

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<v Speaker 1>this season. Last year. I don't think he had his

0:50:15.600 --> 0:50:18.520
<v Speaker 1>greatest year this year. During training camp, I saw some

0:50:18.560 --> 0:50:21.680
<v Speaker 1>things that were very, very that made me have a

0:50:21.719 --> 0:50:24.560
<v Speaker 1>little different opinion of him, because I thought he looked good,

0:50:24.560 --> 0:50:27.959
<v Speaker 1>particularly in past coverage. I thought he looked much better

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<v Speaker 1>than what I'd seen at any other point in his career.

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<v Speaker 1>Here with the Cowboys, I'm interested to see is Jalen

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<v Speaker 1>Smith capable of getting back to the player that he

0:50:36.200 --> 0:50:38.799
<v Speaker 1>was in college before that horrific injury. I think since

0:50:38.840 --> 0:50:41.680
<v Speaker 1>he's been with the Cowboys, we've seen moments where he

0:50:41.760 --> 0:50:44.520
<v Speaker 1>looked really good and made some outstanding plays. I don't

0:50:44.560 --> 0:50:47.680
<v Speaker 1>know that we've seen him put it together consistently throughout

0:50:47.680 --> 0:50:50.359
<v Speaker 1>an entire season where he looked like he was the

0:50:50.400 --> 0:50:53.120
<v Speaker 1>athletic specimen that he was back when he was with

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<v Speaker 1>Notre Dame. I'm interested to see, and I have no

0:50:55.840 --> 0:50:58.600
<v Speaker 1>idea right now if this year would be that year

0:50:58.760 --> 0:51:00.600
<v Speaker 1>and if we actually get to that point where we

0:51:00.600 --> 0:51:02.920
<v Speaker 1>get to see him play at that level of football.

0:51:03.040 --> 0:51:05.719
<v Speaker 1>I think the Cowboys would love that if their their

0:51:05.840 --> 0:51:08.759
<v Speaker 1>bet on him pans out to be that good. But

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<v Speaker 1>I completely have no idea on how that's going to

0:51:11.440 --> 0:51:14.800
<v Speaker 1>turn out. Fun game. We appreciate you guys being playing

0:51:14.800 --> 0:51:18.279
<v Speaker 1>along here with I know I think I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be back on tomorrow. We're gonna get you guys

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<v Speaker 1>ready for Cowboys versus Rams Toll then for Nick Eatn,

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<v Speaker 1>Dave Helm and Amber Garcia. I am Derek Eagleton. This

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<v Speaker 1>has been The Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio.

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