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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast hopes the forecast is raid.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansas. I got heroes in this

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Speaker 1: fake room. Mark Sessler, Greg Rosenthal, I do hope for

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Speaker 1: rain Um. Greg has been very successful with his picks.

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Speaker 1: But it's gonna be a lot trickier now because it

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Speaker 1: is Championship week. We started out with thirty two, now

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Speaker 1: there's four. We got two great ball games coming up

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Speaker 1: on Sunday. Hopefully we get two more classics to add

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Speaker 1: to the four bangers. We got divisional round weekend. Um,

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Speaker 1: how you feeling, Greggy has the rainmaker feeling? How you

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Speaker 1: feeling as a football fan? Do you think we have

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Speaker 1: more greatness in store this weekend? I do? And you

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Speaker 1: you hope that there's not a letdown after last week?

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Speaker 1: But yeah, it's early in terms of forecast. But there

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Speaker 1: is that or easter here, you know, on the East coast,

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Speaker 1: and there are some Doppler reports about potential rain this week.

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Speaker 1: And is it an is it a year, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: some precipitation. It's a climate change year. You know it's

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Speaker 1: all coming nailed it? Mark? How are you, buddy? I

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Speaker 1: am doing quite well. I um, I have been kind

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Speaker 1: of thinking about these two matchups, and you know, I've

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Speaker 1: we got a lot of chiefs in our life, but

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Speaker 1: the idea that the Bengals exists this weekend is extremely

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Speaker 1: new to me. And I've been a Niners guy from

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Speaker 1: wire to wire, you you're leaving out the part where

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Speaker 1: you took them out of your prediction for winning the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl halfway through the season. I was leaving that

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Speaker 1: maybe if you not mentioned that, it would have skated

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Speaker 1: by some of the listeners, new listeners especially. But but

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Speaker 1: the truth out, we did a great job. I was

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Speaker 1: with you, Mark Me, you Adam Rank. I remember we

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Speaker 1: were on the vanguard of picking the forty Niners to

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Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl, only too unlikely games to go.

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Speaker 1: I think the only thing that that must be super

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Speaker 1: annoying about it is that you you jumped to the Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: It's almost like if you had it in reverse, it

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Speaker 1: would have been glorious, but it want the other way.

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Speaker 1: I think in general, and you know who am I

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Speaker 1: to tell the people running NFL dot Com what to do.

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Speaker 1: But the mid season, UM, the option to go in

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Speaker 1: and rejigger your picks. I've fallen for it, eurue to

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Speaker 1: your as it lacks courage. I'm now never gonna do

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Speaker 1: it again. I'm not changing anything. Um And but you

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Speaker 1: fall into traps, and I fell into a horrendous um

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Speaker 1: it all ended up where you wanted to be because

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Speaker 1: you get Kyle Shanahan with the chance to go back

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Speaker 1: before we get And we're also gonna, by the way,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get some updates on what's going on on

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Speaker 1: the personnel carousel as the coaches are starting to find

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Speaker 1: Like that old hard hard knocks thing where you have

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Speaker 1: hard knocks eligible. There's only three teams that are hard

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get too obviously both games this weekend, but

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Speaker 1: game previews. Starting with the a f C, let's first

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Speaker 1: formally say goodbye to one of the more important figures

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Speaker 1: twenty years. Ben Roethlisberger has retired after a long time

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Speaker 1: a great talent, and now we say goodbye, Ricky. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to paris respects as we say goodbye.

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Speaker 1: Are you going to speak any words or it's just music? No,

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Speaker 1: We're just saying goodbye, a moment of silence to some degree. Okay,

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Speaker 1: it's called a solemn respect. What if I'd like to

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Speaker 1: you for only assassinated last? You kin? You kind of

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Speaker 1: think about Roethlisberger first winning those super bowls, right, and

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Speaker 1: he was weirdly underrated for for a guy who was

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Speaker 1: like like Tom Brady. Roethlisberger played his best football the

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Speaker 1: more time. The Simpsons corollary here, that he was a

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Speaker 1: he's not a very this guy that deserves any type

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Speaker 1: have changed if that had happened. I do like that, Dan,

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Speaker 1: public function and is to pay respects to a dead

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Speaker 1: Everything was very on brand for the Around the NFL podcast,

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Speaker 1: So big Ben gone, But we get a lot watch

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Speaker 1: And now we have the Cincinnati Bengals, the upstart Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: Um the Cincinnati Bengals defeated the top seeded Titans nineteen

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Speaker 1: But there is this like figure in the midst Hakim

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Speaker 1: you've gotten this far with completely respectable and admirable um

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Speaker 1: played in so it's it's it's in your natural right

428
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Speaker 1: to lock up the Chiefs. And you know there's only

429
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Speaker 1: one thing, like you didn't think it was admirable a

430
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Speaker 1: few weeks ago, and Greg went after him struggled. Maybe

431
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,960
Speaker 1: that turned the tide? Is that how? I hope that

432
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,359
Speaker 1: translated that correctly. Um, there's only one thing I can do.

433
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Speaker 1: But you know what, I kind of feel wonderful about

434
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,879
Speaker 1: this because A we're all we've all been thinking about

435
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,200
Speaker 1: um Wes in in joined fashion. Whenever we think about

436
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 1: the Bengals, we think about his brothers, we think about

437
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 1: it all. If this is where I go down, UM,

438
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,440
Speaker 1: I couldn't be more excited to lock up the Bengals

439
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,920
Speaker 1: and just test faith and tell the football gods maybe

440
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:29,120
Speaker 1: for once you do something that pleases me, not just you.

441
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 1: Let's see what happens. You know what. This is the

442
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,359
Speaker 1: threshold for Joe Burrow. This is like watching the rise

443
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 1: of Jim Kelly. This is like watching Mahomes bloom, Like

444
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Speaker 1: what young Aaron Rodgers. This is the next version of that.

445
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Speaker 1: Will it happen this weekend? We'll find out its last.

446
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:51,199
Speaker 1: The last couple lock championships were clinched there by Patrick Mahomes.

447
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,159
Speaker 1: I believe the round before, but generally I was just

448
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 1: riding the Chiefs throughout the last three playoffs. I remember

449
00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 1: West was annoyed with it initially, um and uh and

450
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 1: they they deliver that that's what they do. And it

451
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 1: is crazy too to root against them, which I will

452
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:11,479
Speaker 1: be on Sunday because mahomes right now is it's like

453
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,640
Speaker 1: the rest of the game is in slow motion for him.

454
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 1: He didn't have he didn't throw a pass over twenty

455
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 1: yards last week, which is crazy for the first time

456
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Speaker 1: in his career. It's like they did the too deep

457
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 1: safety thing and he he solved and he ran and

458
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 1: he's so hard to get down. I thought that was

459
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,160
Speaker 1: like the kind of the sneaky key to that game

460
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,679
Speaker 1: was they actually got pressure on him and he's just

461
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,720
Speaker 1: like he's like in the matrix or something where everything

462
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:36,120
Speaker 1: is in slow motion. It's like, how do you beat

463
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,360
Speaker 1: that guy? Uh? And maybe you beat him with Jeremy

464
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 1: Bates and a Whoosia and Hilton They made other things

465
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Speaker 1: in his life are like that. It's like he drive

466
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Speaker 1: in slow motion? Does he play like a video game?

467
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:49,919
Speaker 1: Is everything slow when he sees it that way too?

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Speaker 1: I'm curious when people say that these great quarterbacks the

469
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 1: game slows down like him almost more than any other

470
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Speaker 1: player was like guys were just like flying around at

471
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Speaker 1: his feet and he was about to do some crazy

472
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:07,919
Speaker 1: arm angle and it was just like he was in

473
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Speaker 1: total control. He was. He got almost overshadowed in that game,

474
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 1: and he was perfect like he was. I would say

475
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Speaker 1: not more than any other player, because when I think

476
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Speaker 1: of like everything operating in slow motion around a quarterback,

477
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Speaker 1: I think Aaron Rodgers at the top of the list.

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Speaker 1: He was right there unless since January, right, and Rodgers

479
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 1: is patting that ball, patting that ball, he's staring at

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Speaker 1: Devote Adams, right, Aaron Rodgers can slowly work on his

481
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 1: mullet for the next five months. Sam Howard's got to

482
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 1: step up. Hendrickson's got to step up. They got to

483
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 1: create some pressure. They're on the field every down. Bates

484
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,719
Speaker 1: has been great, he's got to step up. And Joe Burrow,

485
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 1: it's just gotta make us. They just gotta make like

486
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Speaker 1: one or two times. And Joe Burrow has got to

487
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Speaker 1: do something that Nick spoke to it where when everyone's

488
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,920
Speaker 1: talking about the others, it's like, even coming into this game,

489
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,639
Speaker 1: no one really believes in Joe Row at this level.

490
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 1: I just mean to like win this game, to cover,

491
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,680
Speaker 1: to be at Mahomes level, to outduel Mahomes even though

492
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 1: he just did it three weeks ago, and one of

493
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Speaker 1: us people Greg and it's like you kind of got

494
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 1: to see it. So it's like you could say, oh,

495
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 1: he's already as good as Mahomes and Johns, Well, why

496
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Speaker 1: don't we wait until Sunday? And if he is, then

497
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Speaker 1: he is. I'm not there yet, but I'm there that

498
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Speaker 1: he can do it for one week. And uh, I'm

499
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Speaker 1: there that this Chief's defense is gonna be disappointing again.

500
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Speaker 1: And I'm there that we're gonna get another classic game

501
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,400
Speaker 1: coming down to the wire. And that's why it's gonna

502
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 1: be raining in on Sunday in Cincinnati. Seven points is

503
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 1: a slap in the face to the West Lan. That's

504
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 1: a slap in the face that Joe Burrow. He's covering

505
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Speaker 1: that spread. They're gonna win this game too, but they'll

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Speaker 1: definitely cover seven. Wow. I love it. Um Hey, Ricky

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Speaker 1: jump in a second. Do you watch um Euphoria on HBO?

508
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 1: I don't, actually, I quite like I know you watch it. Mark.

509
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 1: It's upsetting. I like don't want to believe that high

510
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,959
Speaker 1: school could be like that nowadays. Hey, Okay, well then

511
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 1: Ricky I'm done with you. Then I'm surprised and a

512
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:19,919
Speaker 1: little disappointed that I can't speak on this. Are you

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00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: caught up Mark on euphor you I have? I have

514
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Speaker 1: only missed the most recent episode, which I played even

515
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 1: this afternoon. Episode three, season two is the best of

516
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,159
Speaker 1: the series so far. And at one point, one of

517
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,959
Speaker 1: the high school girls is laying by the pool wearing

518
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 1: like these pink Designer sunglasses, and they're the exact Designer

519
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:43,360
Speaker 1: sunglasses that Joe Burrow wore during his postgame press conference

520
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 1: on Sunday. I love that. That is unbelievable, a symbol

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00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 1: of something. I want to read a quote just quickly

522
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 1: from from Burrow this week. I'm tired. I'm tired of

523
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 1: the underdog narrative. We're here to make noise. Teams are

524
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 1: gonna have to pay attention to himself. Like I said,

525
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 1: we're really good team with really good players were coming

526
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 1: forward off. I like that he throws that underdog stuff away.

527
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 1: You can do this, you can. Did you lock up

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00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 1: the Bengal? Sorry? I know the rain Now, I just

529
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,919
Speaker 1: want I did pick them um on my game, picks

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Speaker 1: on on the website. But let's be real, it's partly

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Speaker 1: just because I want to be rooting for us and

532
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 1: linkside why not? And I do believe that they'll cover.

533
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 1: So if you're gonna, if you're gonna believe in that,

534
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 1: then why not just go on. I do feel like

535
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 1: the Mussolini of this podcast now these I believes the Raiders,

536
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 1: and I wasn't really on the Raiders. I was trying to.

537
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: I was trying to search for an upset in that

538
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 1: week one, the wild card round, and it just never

539
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 1: really appeared. Well, I'm not saying you're coming from like

540
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: a sinister angle again start feel good mission on any level,

541
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: but I um, you'll be proud of me this time

542
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 1: around on multiple platforms. I'm keeping the same pick across

543
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 1: the board. I'm not doing the old whatever it's I have,

544
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 1: and I'm very much like Greg maybe wish casting. I

545
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 1: have thirty five thirty two Cincinnati, align with my lock

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Speaker 1: in overtime, check your later smell your latter cases. I

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00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 1: love the over here too. I love the over even

548
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 1: even more you you have thirty five what was it,

549
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: thirty thirty two? In ot So, the Chiefs get the ball,

550
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 1: kick a field goal, and then the Beaver stop the

551
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 1: Bengals would get Yeah, the Bengals would win with one

552
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 1: field goal in overtime unless they change the rules between

553
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Speaker 1: now kickoff. I have thirty three thirty one, I believe

554
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 1: on the old website over time, over time with the seven,

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00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna go one last. I think they're

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Speaker 1: gonna go for four. Remember how that game ended in

557
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 1: week seventeen, how they didn't let my homes if if

558
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 1: nothing I was. I kind of think they're gonna lose

559
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 1: big or win because I think they're gonna go for

560
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 1: fourth downs. They're gonna try, They're gonna have all the

561
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 1: daring do as Mark would say on Andy, Reid's been

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00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 1: punting a little bit on these fourth downs. An opponentary,

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00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 1: I think Cincinnati knows they're gonna give up thirty and

564
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 1: they're gonna play like it on offense. And whether that works.

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00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 1: Because if I have thirty eight thirty two, Marcus thirty two,

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Speaker 1: you have thirty three thirty one. My last thing was

567
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 1: gonna be this could be forty two. It could. It

568
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 1: absolutely could. The way the Chiefs play, they can run

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Speaker 1: teams out of a building in the playoffs. Will see

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Speaker 1: if it happens again, all Right, that's the a f C.

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Speaker 1: Before we get to the NFC title game, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: do some news personal carousel. But before that, let's take

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Speaker 1: a break. All right, we are back and it is time, gentlemen,

574
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Speaker 1: to hop aboard the NFL personnel carousel. Nine vacancies entering

575
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Speaker 1: business hours traditional banking hours on Wednesday, but now they're

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Speaker 1: starting to fill. The first one's up, Biggie, the Denver Broncos.

577
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: They hire Nathaniel Hackett as head coach. How about that,

578
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Speaker 1: Hackett who just a couple of weeks ago couldn't even

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Speaker 1: get a head shot on NFL dot Com, leading to

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Speaker 1: a lot of internal consternation for one particular on camera

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Speaker 1: reporter uh. Three emails uh, you know, and around the

582
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Speaker 1: NFL podcast speculation and conversation with David Eally at the

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00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: news desk. That got taken care of. And now Hackett,

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Speaker 1: the Packers offensive coordinator previously, is the head coach. Hackett

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00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 1: has worked with the quarterbacks at all phases on the

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00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 1: development curve in his career. Uh. He was scheduled to

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00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 1: interview with the Jags on Thursday, but the Broncos stepping

588
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 1: Wednesday night get that deal done. And this is Greg

589
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 1: Hackett's first stint as a head coach replaces Vick Faggio.

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Speaker 1: Do you buy into any of the hype here that

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Speaker 1: the green Bay quarterback coach might be able to lead

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00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: Lore the green Bay quarterback? Yeah? I do. I do

593
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: think that has to be the extra you know, drizzle

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00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 1: of syrup on top of this Sunday, you know, like

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00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 1: they know that might not be the difference or not,

596
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 1: but absolutely they they want to go after Aaron Rodgers

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00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 1: and this is a huge plus. And they were deciding

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Speaker 1: apparently between Hackett and Dan Quinn. Kevin O'Connell from the

599
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 1: Rams was also another finalist, but it seemed like it

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00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,479
Speaker 1: was Hackett or Quinn and choosing the offensive guy just

601
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 1: makes more sense. And oh, because you're gonna need a

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00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: quarterback anyways this offseason if you don't get Rodgers, you

603
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 1: need someone that can develop a quarterback. And Hacketts, you know,

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00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 1: done it with Bleak Bordles. You know, they had a

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00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 1: pretty good offense at some points and and Rogers loves them.

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00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 1: So I just how could it not be a factor, right,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, how could that not be? Did Denver

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Speaker 1: make this higher, like making on the chance that this happens,

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00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 1: because that would seem maybe he was a finalist. Jacksonville

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Speaker 1: too that the reason they hired him today was Jacksonville

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00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 1: was bringing him back for a second interview, and Ian

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00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 1: reported at that point Denver was like, we gotta, we

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00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 1: gotta make our decision now, and they wanted to get

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Speaker 1: it done. You know, he he's actually I know it's

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00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: you know, Blake Bortles and the Jaguars is just a constantly,

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00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 1: you know, point and laugh scenario. But um, he did

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00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 1: a really nice job that year they went to that

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Speaker 1: AFC title game. Nathaniel Hackett showed creativity. Um he's really

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Speaker 1: the one thing you hear over and over he is

620
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 1: in incredibly smart, organized, and I thought, if you even

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Speaker 1: go back to his earlier days with the Buffalo Bills,

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00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 1: he kind of helped create Tyrod Taylor into something as well.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's shown I know, I know, I know.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying that whoever he's had to work with,

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00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 1: he's done a nice job maximizing them. But I don't

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Speaker 1: I'm so with Greg and I assume you as well,

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Speaker 1: then like, how do you take this job? If you're

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Speaker 1: Nathaniel Hackett? I love to know what he knows about

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Speaker 1: I take the job. Ares there's a lot of great play.

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Speaker 1: No no no, no, no, no, but but Greg, Greg, Greg,

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Speaker 1: you all last season we're all about the Broncos with

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00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 1: a what what I saw as a ceiling zero scenario quarterback.

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Speaker 1: You lose jobs if you don't get that quarterback, you

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Speaker 1: lose them in two or three to what you're saying, Mark,

635
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 1: like when I talked about on Tuesday show the dan

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Speaker 1: Quinn scenario. Who, by the way, it looks like dan

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00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: Quinn now is going to stay in Dallas. I'm more men,

638
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Speaker 1: if you are like you've already been fired once, you

639
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 1: usually don't get more than two chances at it. Choose

640
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 1: very carefully, ya. Daniel Hackett to me is maybe a

641
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 1: little bit of a different category where you don't know

642
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: how many chances you are going to get, how many

643
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 1: bites you get out the apple. Now, you could say,

644
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 1: maybe he should have given more thought or taken that

645
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 1: extra interview with Jacksonville where you have a young, potentially

646
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 1: dynamic quarterback and Trevor Lawrence. But perhaps there's more to

647
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,320
Speaker 1: this story than we know. I guess on the service

648
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 1: that doesn't really move the needle. To me, as a

649
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 1: higher if if you're we're throwing out names like developing

650
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 1: of Blake Bordles and Tyrod Taylor, unless the Broncos and

651
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,800
Speaker 1: Hackett have a more grand plan that involves a certain

652
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: number twelve. Otherwise I'm like, I guess good high well.

653
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: And he comes from the coaching tree that's kind of

654
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 1: dominating right now in the NFL. I mean, now he's

655
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 1: part He not only was his dad, you know, Bill

656
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 1: Walsh's right hand man, but he's now coming from the

657
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 1: La Fleur Shannon. You know, he's had a mix of

658
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 1: different influences and he's coming from that La Fleur experience,

659
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,280
Speaker 1: which is a plus. Connor Or wrote a great article

660
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 1: about him. Uh, he seems he seems to be well

661
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 1: liked by the media, which always makes me a little

662
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: a little skeptical. You can tell, you can tell he

663
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 1: does some work with the you know, pressing the flesh

664
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: media wise, behind the scenes. But I do think it

665
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 1: matters that they brought in the Packers quarterback coach for

666
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 1: a head coach interview as well. I just think that

667
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: there's something else happening here in that Nick Nathaniel Hackett

668
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 1: not not seeing inside information. But you don't take this

669
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: because Vick Fonjo just got fired for the no quarterback problem.

670
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 1: Sorry he did, he wasn't because of his defense. And

671
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 1: if you're Nathaniel Hackett, who is a lower level higher

672
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 1: he's been in the league for just doing other stuff forever,

673
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,839
Speaker 1: you've got to know that there's a possibility that you're

674
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 1: bringing the best quarterback and football to your team. I

675
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: got Yeah. My my feeling on this is if that's

676
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 1: if that's just you made this higher because it gives

677
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 1: you the possibility of getting Rogers. Be careful there, but

678
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 1: it's not like he's done enough and he has enough

679
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 1: for resume where you're not like shipwrecked if you don't

680
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 1: get Rogers. But at the same time, I wonder how

681
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: much this really led to him getting this chair in Denver,

682
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 1: and how desperate the Broncos are to finally solve their

683
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 1: quarterback problem, even if that means going all out for

684
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: a guy that's turning thirty nine or however Rodgers. Is

685
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: this weird situation because there there should be new ownership

686
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:50,439
Speaker 1: this year, which is just difficult for everyone. I um.

687
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 1: The Chicago Bears also have found their man. It is

688
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 1: Matt eberf Loose, the Colts defensive coordinator Ira Fus is

689
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 1: fifty one year old. He was also in the running

690
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 1: for the Jaguars head coaching vacancy. He joins new manager

691
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 1: Ryan Poles in taking over a Bears team that went

692
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: six and eleven last year under Matt Naggy, Chicago team

693
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: that is dreadfully boring, that's missed the playoffs nine in

694
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 1: the past eleven years, but does have justin fields there.

695
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: So when we talk about this again, all right, you

696
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 1: have a dynamic young quarterback, very raw, but a lot

697
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 1: of potential, So Ebra Fluce gets to come in and

698
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: maybe keep that defense where it is or take it

699
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 1: up a notch um. He could use some more players

700
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 1: on that side of the ball too, But you also

701
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,240
Speaker 1: have this young quarterback. So this this is a Greg

702
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: to me, a better job opening than Denver on some level.

703
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: But also there's a lot of dysfunction in Chicago and

704
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,280
Speaker 1: it's been that way for a while, so buyer beware

705
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 1: here as well. Yeah, one question that they're not going

706
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 1: to answer is how much influence did Ryan Poles the

707
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 1: GM have in this higher They were already they already

708
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 1: interviewed finalists before they had a GM. We've talked a

709
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 1: lot about I think the way to do it is

710
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: have your coaching GM aligned in the same hiring cycle.

711
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: But I also think that the GM should be, you know,

712
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 1: part of the head coaching higher and you just don't

713
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 1: know if how much influence Polls had, because for instance,

714
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,399
Speaker 1: he's had experience with other people that interviewed for that job.

715
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 1: We don't know if ownership was making the decision. I

716
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 1: think that's a safe assumption, or if it was his

717
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 1: polls and he was helping to pick the tiebreaker. The

718
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 1: most important part of any head coaching job, I think

719
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 1: is something that's impossible for us to evaluate before they're

720
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 1: hired or even after. Frankly, it's like, how do you

721
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 1: lead a team? How do you organize, how do you plan?

722
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 1: How do you hire? Eberflus's scheme in Indianapolis didn't blow

723
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 1: you away. I mean, they were aggressive and had forced

724
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:55,800
Speaker 1: a lot of turnovers, but they weren't a great defense.

725
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 1: They were fine, you know what I mean. So it

726
00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 1: doesn't get you too excited. But people seem to love

727
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 1: Maddie for Flus, he was maybe gonna you know, he

728
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 1: was a finalist in Jacksonville. Two people around the league

729
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 1: love this dude, So maybe he's great at all that

730
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 1: stuff and they and they see that. Yeah, I mean,

731
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,760
Speaker 1: I'm with you. It's not like we understand the eber

732
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 1: Flu scheme is something that's taking revolution that you know

733
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 1: over the league. But I think the thing is, I

734
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 1: mean a it's very Bears like to replace Matt and

735
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 1: Ryan with another Matt and Ryan. It's it's a very

736
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,919
Speaker 1: um on Brandon for the Bears. And some Bears fan

737
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 1: was anticipating this moment. Did you see that tweet? We

738
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: got it right before we started. I believe he was

739
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 1: very he was very upset. I can't wait to hear

740
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:39,359
Speaker 1: the hard hitting, in depth analysis of this Bears pick.

741
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 1: His name is Matt. I don't like it, Dure Well,

742
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I didn't mean I. First of all, it

743
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,439
Speaker 1: might be a guy. I like the analysis. I don't

744
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,720
Speaker 1: like this guy. I I would say this, like you.

745
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 1: The only thing about hiring a defensive coach in in

746
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: two um, I mean, it's worked for the it's worked

747
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 1: for the Bills, and they found the right see the groom,

748
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 1: Josh Allen. So it's like the whole point here was

749
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 1: we finally have a quarterback. Who are you going to

750
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 1: marry with Justin Fields for the next five seven years

751
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 1: in theory, and it's Matt Eberflus is not the first

752
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 1: person I would have picked for that journey. So it's

753
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 1: really important what they do. And to your point, where

754
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 1: like these guys, they have to in these interviews explain

755
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:23,840
Speaker 1: here's who I can hire as as my staff. You

756
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 1: don't find out after you hire, so they must be impressed.

757
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: Although I don't know who they is because Bears upper

758
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 1: management seems totally lost in the forest to me. But

759
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: there must be some answers to what the plan is

760
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 1: for Justin Fields reports that the Eagles passing game coordinator

761
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 1: Kevin Patulo is okay. I mean they ran the ball

762
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,280
Speaker 1: more than any team in the league and we're lost

763
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 1: as a passing team. But will I have a nice favorite.

764
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 1: I know who they can hire, get Ben Macadoo to

765
00:40:55,600 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: lead their offense. Well, he was hired from the trade Forum,

766
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 1: from the piece of rock Star. It really is funny

767
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 1: to think of that. Jay Glazer report that they need

768
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: to hire a rock Star coordinator. Also, Um was close

769
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 1: with I'm forgetting his name. There is there are some

770
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: weird rumors about who we might hire Okay, Well, stick

771
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:26,320
Speaker 1: a pin in that. Mark and Jason Garrett, that's on

772
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 1: my mind that he was take out the axe again.

773
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 1: Give me a tasty lick, Ricky, Jason Garrett. I there's

774
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: people concerned that he'd do that. I'd um. And since

775
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 1: we've mentioned the Jacksonville Jaguars twice now and both these

776
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 1: um head coach coaching carousel, personnel carousel scenarios, where are

777
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:55,240
Speaker 1: they at? You know, they hired they fired Urban Meyer

778
00:41:55,440 --> 00:42:00,839
Speaker 1: like what feels like about three years ago. Long time

779
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 1: Cardinals beat man Mike directly reports that the Cardinals executive

780
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 1: Adrian Wilson will become the next general manager of the team.

781
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:15,280
Speaker 1: And that's important because reports have it that Byron Leftwich

782
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 1: was all set to become the head coach of the Jaguars.

783
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 1: The Jags wanted him, but he said, I want to

784
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 1: be the coach of the Jaguars, but I won't do

785
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 1: it if Trent Balkys the GM, which obviously was quite

786
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 1: a wrench for a shot Khan and Jacksonville, who for

787
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 1: some reason remain committed to Balki for the time being.

788
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 1: So let's see how this all shakes out. I just

789
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 1: thought we could wait and talk about this when it

790
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 1: becomes a final next week. But it seems like something

791
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 1: that could be eminent, and it all is connected, So Greg,

792
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 1: where do you take all this? There's been some premature

793
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 1: reporting and and I would put the directly report in

794
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 1: that it might prove to be correct, but at least

795
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 1: our network. Other networks are saying that's not finalized in

796
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 1: terms of Wilson, but yeah, it's us and he like

797
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 1: what everyone said that Balki was a a wrench here

798
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 1: in what the Jaguars are trying to do has proven true.

799
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:11,919
Speaker 1: Supposedly multiple coaches turned down the interview at all, and

800
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 1: uh I appreciate Left, which kind of standing up for

801
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 1: what he believes in and it doesn't want to get

802
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 1: caught in a bad situation. Balki has been a little

803
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 1: bit of a coach killer, and he worked with Adrian

804
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 1: Wilson who was a badass player with the Cardinals and

805
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 1: now is apparently a badass GM That would be a

806
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 1: very likable combo. And supposedly they're interviewing Vic Fongio to

807
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 1: maybe be the defensive coordinator give me Left, which Adrian

808
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,359
Speaker 1: Wilson two guys I enjoyed watching play, you know, now

809
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 1: we're old enough. Like that was while we were actually

810
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: working in this in this business and Fonio and I'll

811
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 1: be a Jaguars fan. I like that likability. It doesn't

812
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,839
Speaker 1: put Lombardi trophies in the lobby, I mean, but it's

813
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:53,800
Speaker 1: what else do I know about this thing? You know?

814
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,240
Speaker 1: Left Which could do it? Why not? He? It seems

815
00:43:56,280 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 1: great so strongly about Adrian Wilson, but he really I

816
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 1: covered that. I was the NBC like guy covering the

817
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 1: Cardinals that week, and so I sort of fell in

818
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 1: love with that team. And he was the captain of

819
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 1: that team in the leader in left Wich? Who doesn't

820
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 1: like Byron Leftwich? Come on, in Vic Fongio, you get

821
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 1: left Which on offense? Why do I have to love

822
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 1: Byron Leftwich? I don't know. He was a likable player.

823
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 1: He was a fun player. He was a likable guy.

824
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 1: He's he was a likable one of the more enjoyable,

825
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 1: you know, tremendous personality. He's funny, just garius as hell.

826
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 1: Remember when they carried him down the field that Marshall

827
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: That was unbelievable on a bum leg. He was a

828
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 1: warrior on that Marshall team, the Thundering Herd. Alright, I'm

829
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 1: just being um alright, that's what's going on in the news.

830
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:50,359
Speaker 1: Let's now move on to the a f C Championship game.

831
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: Unless anybody else had any other nug from around the league. Well,

832
00:44:53,040 --> 00:45:00,839
Speaker 1: we've actually got a developing situation here, Ricky hit It Hall.

833
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 1: There's been a surprise press conference called oh where for

834
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 1: Dan Hansas. Oh, Dan Hansas is closing in on the

835
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:18,720
Speaker 1: Locks championship and uh, he's just gonna take some questions

836
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 1: from the crowd. Wow, what's going on here? Um? Dan,

837
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 1: You've you had a five game or a three game

838
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 1: lead with five to play at that point, looked like

839
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 1: it was all but your trophy to win the leads

840
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 1: down to one two weeks ago. Um, what is your

841
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 1: confidence level after giving up this big of a lead?

842
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:41,240
Speaker 1: A little Rams like? Yeah, it is little Rams like Greg,

843
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 1: But also see, I'm like one of those guys that

844
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 1: I know the name names of the media guys and

845
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: that makes me more likable and it actually gives me

846
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 1: a little bit of gravity toss. Uh yeah, Greg, I

847
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 1: understand that. And um, but you have to remember the

848
00:45:56,480 --> 00:46:01,280
Speaker 1: Rams won that ballgame and nobody remembers the collapse anymore.

849
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 1: Because here they are playing for the right to go

850
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 1: to the super Bowl. So while things have gotten more interesting,

851
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: I certainly feel confident. Who's that, Erica? Hey Dan, I

852
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,879
Speaker 1: just wanna great season. By the way, it's been really

853
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 1: a joy to watch you play. However, I do kind

854
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: of want to dig in a little bit. Do you

855
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 1: have any remorse looking back on some of your picks

856
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 1: where maybe the mainstream media was sort of saying that

857
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 1: you you walked a fine line of you know, let's

858
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: say ernest look in the mirror picks. Hey, Erica, that's

859
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 1: a fair question. Uh. You know, I played by the

860
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 1: rules and the rules of the lock challenges, keep it

861
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 1: under seven points, but most importantly, pick the team you

862
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 1: feel most confident about and whatever that uh fell under

863
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 1: those two categories. That's typically where I went, and that's

864
00:46:55,480 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 1: why I have a winning percentage north of seven hundred. So, Uh,

865
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 1: I have no regrets. I feel like I played the

866
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 1: game the right way and hopefully things go my way.

867
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna do my best. Thanks anything else, um, Uh,

868
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 1: Dan Gregg and the other guy, the other guy. All right,

869
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:18,840
Speaker 1: So I think that sets up my question, Well, do

870
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 1: you think that you know as essentially pr focused host

871
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: of the show, that the contest essentially never had any

872
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 1: chance to go to anyone but you, because we would

873
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 1: have cooked up various other scenarios had I gotten into

874
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 1: a tie situation. I sense a lot of overconfidence. I

875
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 1: do think there have been some weeks where your picks

876
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,240
Speaker 1: have been Had I made the pick that you picked,

877
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 1: would there have been maybe, Haymark, where is your mirror?

878
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 1: But when Dan picks it, the mirror is put into

879
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 1: the closet and we are going arount this. I just

880
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 1: do things to win. I just am a results or

881
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 1: in an individual. I don't even know what the question

882
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:56,320
Speaker 1: is answer, although answer those charges please, Thanks for the question. Mark. Again,

883
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 1: I played by the rules of the game. I make

884
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 1: sure it's within the spread. I picked the team that

885
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 1: I feel good about, and I understand your journey and

886
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 1: this competition maybe is the one that people get behind. UM.

887
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 1: It's more up and down. There's certainly more peaks and valleys.

888
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to bother you that I'm sort of

889
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 1: the what you know, the people's they're backing this sort

890
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 1: of mission. They see this this UM, this joy for sport.

891
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 1: As I picked these games week after week. Thanks so

892
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 1: much for the question. Mark. You know it doesn't bother

893
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:29,360
Speaker 1: me because I think you're a great competitor and I

894
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,839
Speaker 1: consider you a friend, and I just I think if

895
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 1: people see that you're um someone that's fun to track

896
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 1: in this way, that makes me happy because I think

897
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 1: that you deserve that and I want people to be

898
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 1: on that right path. Anyway, I'm just gonna do what

899
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 1: I do. I'm just gonna do my best. One game,

900
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 1: one more, I got time for Dan's got time for

901
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 1: one more? All right, Dan? Greg Um, you know you've

902
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 1: probably been the longest biggest proponent of the locks competition

903
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 1: through the year, according to lock it Up a t

904
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 1: M lock ups on Twitter. Um, you've actually never won

905
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 1: the trophy by yourself. You've only shared it with others

906
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 1: only only Greg, two time defending champion by the way,

907
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:11,319
Speaker 1: uh and Mark has won it by themselfs Uh do

908
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:14,760
Speaker 1: you need this trophy to fill a hole in your resume?

909
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 1: In in your heart? Thanks for the question, Greg, I

910
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,280
Speaker 1: you know I have two titles in they're both ties,

911
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 1: and nobody likes a tie. Uh. You know when Steve

912
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,800
Speaker 1: McNair and Peyton Manning shared m v P. Let's be honest,

913
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 1: that was a disgrace. Neither won it. I would say

914
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:32,919
Speaker 1: incinerate at the award. Uh So, yeah it does. There

915
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:37,439
Speaker 1: is a hole in my resume, and that's why, in fact,

916
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna clear it right now. I'm gonna move.

917
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 1: I'm moving, making the space on the shelf behind me

918
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 1: because I think I need that. I think, and I

919
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 1: think I know that's not maybe something that the answer

920
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 1: that I should give. But if I don't have it,

921
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:54,919
Speaker 1: if I don't have that trophy, I don't think I'm

922
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:58,280
Speaker 1: full and complete as a man. So I'm just gonna

923
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: at a time, one game at a time. We want

924
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: our athletes to be honest, and so I think you know,

925
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: whether athlete or or front office type figure or whatever

926
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 1: it is you are. Uh. We appreciate the frank responses

927
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:13,439
Speaker 1: to these questions. You are a great competitor. Greg, Thanks, Gregg,

928
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 1: and Mark, thanks so much, and uh, you know, I

929
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 1: hope to see uh down the road. Thanks everybody. All right,

930
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 1: we'll be right back. All right, It's time to get

931
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 1: to it. Man. That press conference, that one caught me

932
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 1: by surprise a little bit. Not too often you're actually

933
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 1: on the podium for a surprise press conference. Right. That

934
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 1: was I think it was necessary and you know it's

935
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 1: it is a process and the I got behind the

936
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 1: Packers and I felt really good about it. But uh,

937
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:45,360
Speaker 1: I got double crossed by Aaron Rodgers. But who hasn't

938
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 1: asked his family and literally everyone else close in his life. Sorry, Greg, No,

939
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 1: I mean that you you finally made this is now

940
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 1: the breakout group, you know where that you do a

941
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 1: podium thing and it's like, uh, the PR guys like

942
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 1: all right, just the beat guys, Just the beat guys

943
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:05,720
Speaker 1: with Dan. And it's in the little the little circle

944
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 1: with the beat guys. And and I'm giving you a

945
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 1: little bit more. And now I'm sharing that Aaron Rodgers

946
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: profoundly to me, and I'm not going to ever forget it.

947
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 1: That's where the little fodder comes from. The six yards

948
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 1: away from the podium, didn't Mr Drayton was I forget

949
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 1: his first name? The special teams coordinator of the Packers

950
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 1: also didn't help you out very much. He certainly didn't. Yeah,

951
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:39,800
Speaker 1: let's get to it. The NFC Championship game. Oh boy,

952
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 1: you know I think it's uh, well, it looks like

953
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 1: Mark Greg is gonna lock up one of these teams

954
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 1: but Greg obviously has been playing out the string for

955
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 1: roughly three months. So this is a game that's very

956
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 1: tough to feel strongly about one way or the other here, Greg,

957
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:57,280
Speaker 1: because the Rams on the surface here we've got Rams,

958
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 1: of course, and the Rams on the surface feel like

959
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 1: the better roster. They have the quarterback that's playing at

960
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 1: a higher level. They're well coached there at home. And

961
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,320
Speaker 1: yet it's hard to look the other way for uncertain things.

962
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 1: It's hard to look at the less six meetings between

963
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 1: these teams how it turned out. It's hard to look

964
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 1: the other way on Week eight team, what happened in

965
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:16,840
Speaker 1: that game. It's hard to look the other way on

966
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 1: what happened at so FI Stadium in Week eight team

967
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 1: when the Niners filled that building up. All these things

968
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 1: put together makes you think that San Francisco has it.

969
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 1: And yet the Desert has the Rams as a favorite

970
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, and they they became a slightly bigger

971
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:33,759
Speaker 1: favorite during the week. It went from three to three

972
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 1: and a half, which indicates the public has actually been

973
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 1: or the sharps as they would say, I've been betting

974
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 1: the Rams. Who knows. I can understand it though, because

975
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 1: despite the matchup going the opposite way. One's got an

976
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 1: injured quarterback, Jimmy Garoppolo who's thrown u two touchdowns and

977
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:58,400
Speaker 1: six interceptions in the last four weeks. That's his aggregate totals,

978
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 1: and it gets even worse if you you know, include

979
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 1: some of the turnover worthy plays, including many in Green

980
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 1: Bay last week. And then more importantly, Stafford is on

981
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 1: a heater and I think that week a teen game

982
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 1: after looking at it again this week, he played great

983
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 1: against the forty. He was the reason they made it

984
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 1: to overtime. And I know he threw two interceptions in

985
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 1: that game, but he also made five or six throws

986
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 1: against pressure, a couple of them to Cooper Cup on

987
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 1: third downs that not many quarterbacks can make. And so

988
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 1: I think he comes into this game feeling very confident.

989
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 1: And I liked the way that Sean McVeigh early in

990
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 1: that game and early against the Buccaneers against a good

991
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:39,880
Speaker 1: run defense, and that's what they have, just like the

992
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 1: Bucks went very past heavy. I think Stafford's had a

993
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 1: nice balance of knowing when to be aggressive and when

994
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 1: to be patient. It just comes down to protecting him.

995
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 1: I think the game comes down to the Rams offensive line,

996
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:55,840
Speaker 1: that's been the the difference in this matchup over the

997
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:58,800
Speaker 1: last three years. It was definitely the difference in Week eighteen.

998
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 1: His offensive line got worked, they got pushed around in

999
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:05,280
Speaker 1: the running game, and they got too much pressure on Stafford,

1000
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 1: who had to make plays despite all that pressure. If

1001
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:11,839
Speaker 1: the Rams offensive line plays well, they win. I think

1002
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 1: it's as simple as that. If they don't and they

1003
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 1: keep losing this matchup, then I think it comes down

1004
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 1: to the end and it's a great game. I'm with

1005
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 1: you because you know, the the Niners, who are not

1006
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 1: a big blitzing team, lead the all postseason teams in

1007
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:29,760
Speaker 1: pressure rate. They've had ten plus QB pressures in seven

1008
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 1: straight games, including the playoffs, ten sacks in the postseason.

1009
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:37,360
Speaker 1: They have been wrecking quarterbacks. They have been causing chaos,

1010
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:41,359
Speaker 1: and yet the Rams in reverse, Aaron Donald has not

1011
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:43,839
Speaker 1: really shown up this season against the Niners. It's been

1012
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 1: his two of his four worst PF grades to have

1013
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 1: come against San Francisco. We know, outside of the seventeen

1014
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:52,759
Speaker 1: nothing start that the Rams had in that last game,

1015
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 1: that they've been essentially dominated by the full team of

1016
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 1: the Niners, and it's it feels a bit like we

1017
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 1: say this about sanf Cisco week after week, but it

1018
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 1: does come down to you. I think which quarterback in

1019
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 1: this game makes the more killer mistakes. Stafford has two

1020
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 1: picks in each games against the Niners. One was that

1021
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 1: terrible pick six, But but Garoppolo has been They've been

1022
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:14,400
Speaker 1: winning to spite him, and I mean, I kind of

1023
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:16,799
Speaker 1: love the Niners for that, because it would be a

1024
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,919
Speaker 1: reason to like eject or seat any other team out

1025
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 1: of the playoffs entirely. I mean, he's gonna throw two

1026
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:24,840
Speaker 1: or three passes a game that utterly assassinate you, and

1027
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 1: you've got to get past it. But they have shown

1028
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:29,880
Speaker 1: total ability to get past it. I mean, they should

1029
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:31,840
Speaker 1: not have won that game last week, but it was

1030
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 1: a total team effort, special teams, the whole thing. And

1031
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 1: I do feel with the Rams team a little bit

1032
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 1: that that last game, they got up seventeen and nothing

1033
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 1: and you had watch Sean McVeigh running down the sidelines

1034
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 1: to congratulate Stafford in the end zone. It was like

1035
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:49,839
Speaker 1: this huge emotional release. Then they blew the lead and

1036
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 1: you go pack. Last week they looked like they had

1037
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 1: done the same thing to the Bucks and they blew

1038
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 1: the lead. So I just don't know psychologically in a

1039
00:55:57,160 --> 00:56:00,200
Speaker 1: stadium where they're saying right now certain ticket vendors that

1040
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:03,959
Speaker 1: they project a sixty Niners crowd and you've got Sean

1041
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:07,839
Speaker 1: McVeigh at the podium begging Rams fans not to sell

1042
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:10,399
Speaker 1: the ticket. I don't love the juju around that. UM.

1043
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:12,240
Speaker 1: I do think this is a case where one team

1044
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 1: has got into the head of the other team. But

1045
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 1: maybe the Rams, who have been so special in certain

1046
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 1: ways in this postseason, are past all that. None of

1047
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 1: that matters if they can take care of business here.

1048
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 1: But I don't like the fact that they built that

1049
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 1: lead in a perfect first half and then fell apart

1050
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:30,359
Speaker 1: last time. I'm I'm on the side of I think

1051
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:33,759
Speaker 1: the Niners are in their heads. I think that I

1052
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:36,799
Speaker 1: think that you could look at the end of that

1053
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:40,319
Speaker 1: game against the Bucks and say, wow, that's amazing with

1054
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:43,720
Speaker 1: Stafford and Cup were able to do there and steal

1055
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 1: that game after almost giving it away. And that's true,

1056
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:48,840
Speaker 1: and you have to give a lot of credit. And

1057
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,359
Speaker 1: maybe Sean McVeigh learns from how that game played out

1058
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 1: when he got super conservative just trying to run the

1059
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 1: clock out, UM, and he probably would have He probably

1060
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:58,839
Speaker 1: would have been fine if if not for the cup

1061
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 1: fumble and the second fumble by Acres, But that's not

1062
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 1: how things work that sports. And it's just like I

1063
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:08,760
Speaker 1: just think, no matter what happens early in this game,

1064
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:11,800
Speaker 1: the Rams know and the Niners know that this game,

1065
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 1: even if the Rams go ahead, that the Niners are

1066
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 1: gonna keep coming. And it all all comes down to

1067
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 1: because I think Garoppolo was bad last week in Green Bay,

1068
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 1: and there were reasons for that beyond just that he's

1069
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 1: not that great. Maybe the weather green based defense. They

1070
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:28,800
Speaker 1: had two field goal drives on offense, and they were

1071
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 1: bailed out essentially by special Team's miracle in the fourth quarter.

1072
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 1: Ken Garoppolo make enough plays and get it to his

1073
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 1: playmakers were saying it every week, and we saw last

1074
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 1: week even when he didn't, they still won. But I

1075
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 1: think the difference here is is that I don't think

1076
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 1: the Rams are going to gag the way the Packers

1077
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 1: did last week. So I think this is a game

1078
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 1: that they're going to have to score points. Do they

1079
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 1: score points? Greg? Do you think they could score the

1080
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 1: let's say twenty four necessary to win this game? I

1081
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 1: had I had him on twenty four. I have the under.

1082
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 1: I like the under in this game. I like both

1083
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 1: defenses to make this a little more of a defensive

1084
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 1: game because I think both pass rushers should win. I mean,

1085
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 1: the Rams front is just as good as the forty

1086
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 1: Niners right now. Von Miller is playing incredible and and

1087
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 1: we we've talked about the rest of the group. Obviously,

1088
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 1: Shanahan does a good job going again away from their

1089
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 1: strengths Ramsey, he kind of avoids Ramsey. Ramsey did not

1090
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:31,919
Speaker 1: have a good week a team game, particularly against UM

1091
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:34,480
Speaker 1: San Francisco, and yet I think their pass rush is

1092
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 1: gonna be great. Jimmy g has to get rid of

1093
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 1: the ball so quickly. It comes down to tackling for

1094
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 1: the forty Niners, like when you play the forty Niners.

1095
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 1: And that's something I'll be curious to see because wet

1096
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 1: All came in and played sixty snaps last week. He's

1097
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 1: too good now to take off the field. It's crazy.

1098
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 1: And that other dude, Nick Scott's like making plays all

1099
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 1: over the field. And both these games their safeties, even

1100
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 1: though they lost their starters during that comeback, by the way,

1101
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 1: that was a pretty big factor. They lost their two

1102
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 1: starting safeties during that come back and now they're they're

1103
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 1: all set up. They have Taylor wrap back for this game.

1104
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 1: Can you tackle? I think this Rams defense is really good,

1105
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 1: and that's that's why, Like you know, when I look

1106
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 1: at the matchup, it's like you have two great defenses.

1107
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 1: You definitely don't have two great offenses. You have a

1108
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 1: great head coach in Shanahan, you have some great offensive players,

1109
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:19,920
Speaker 1: and you have Shanahan. I think maybe has shown he's

1110
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 1: a little better at a justin and managing the game

1111
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 1: than McVeigh. I mean, fortys would not be in this

1112
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 1: game if McVeigh, you know, didn't turtle up and run

1113
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 1: the ball three straight times at the end of the

1114
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 1: Week eight team matchup, or didn't let the clock run out.

1115
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys remember, and this is

1116
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 1: a total tangent, but remember I got on him a

1117
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:40,440
Speaker 1: little bit for not taking a time out to try

1118
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 1: to score at the end of last week's game. Rewatching

1119
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 1: the game, I noticed they were at the thirty four

1120
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 1: yard line with about eighteen seconds left. So now, after

1121
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:50,080
Speaker 1: seeing Mahomes do it, like no coach should be allowed

1122
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 1: to do that ever again, because we've seen what you

1123
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 1: can do with thirteen seconds. The Rams were like ten

1124
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 1: yards ahead of that with more time, and he didn't

1125
00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 1: do it. I think I hope he's learned from that

1126
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 1: and will be a little more aggressive in terms of

1127
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 1: his game planning. Do you worry about Matthew Stafford his

1128
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 1: butt getting a little tight if they're in a tight

1129
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 1: place here, because I mean, look at like he's been awesome.

1130
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 1: He's been absolutely magnificent, and he's looked like a Super

1131
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 1: Bowl quarterback. And Cooper Cup has been fairly unstoppable, and

1132
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 1: I mean he's he had a hundred and eighteen plus

1133
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 1: yards and both matchups against the Niners. So I think

1134
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 1: that they're stars can be their stars, and that's sort

1135
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:27,080
Speaker 1: of been the journey of the Rams right now that

1136
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 1: the von miller O b j all this stuff is

1137
01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 1: working out really well for them. Um, But I'm also

1138
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 1: looking at a Rams run defense that's been really good

1139
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:36,960
Speaker 1: except when they play the Niners, and the Niners ran

1140
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 1: all over him the last time, and it's kind of

1141
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 1: it's to me where you get into the head of

1142
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 1: another team, it's embarrassing when the Niners tell you and

1143
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 1: tell everyone on national television in that first matchup, we

1144
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 1: want to run the ball forty times, and like, if

1145
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:53,960
Speaker 1: you know someone's going to do that, you can adjust

1146
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:56,080
Speaker 1: and stop it. They couldn't. They couldn't do anything. And

1147
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:59,160
Speaker 1: then you had Deebo Samuel catching those crossers where Jimmy G.

1148
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 1: You know, he makes his mistakes, but he did pretty

1149
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 1: well in that game. And it's just like, if you

1150
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:06,200
Speaker 1: get that version of Jimmy G, who has more turnover

1151
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 1: worthy throws than anyone in the league other than Mike

1152
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 1: Glennan percentage wise this year, I mean that it is

1153
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:15,040
Speaker 1: remarkable that they're here with Jimmy G in general. Accept

1154
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:17,920
Speaker 1: that every game he also makes three or four great

1155
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 1: throws along with the mistakes. And if you can think

1156
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:22,600
Speaker 1: it's been a lesser version, though, don't you think he's

1157
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:26,360
Speaker 1: been better. He's been better in San Francisco in previous

1158
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 1: years than this year. And I mean, I don't know

1159
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 1: whether the weather might have been a little bit of

1160
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:31,920
Speaker 1: a factor in Green Bay, but I don't know. I mean,

1161
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:33,840
Speaker 1: like both quarterbacks didn't look good in that one, but

1162
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:36,080
Speaker 1: Jimmy G is a liability that they've found a way

1163
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:38,560
Speaker 1: to win around. I think it's a fascinating team because

1164
01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:42,439
Speaker 1: of that Week eighteen. I put more into this week

1165
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 1: eighteen UM for this game that I do for the

1166
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:49,600
Speaker 1: week seventeen or wherever it was, the Cincinnati Kansas City game.

1167
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:51,360
Speaker 1: I don't know why, I just do. It was a

1168
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:53,760
Speaker 1: playoff game for the forty niners, and it it felt

1169
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 1: like one for the Rams. Or it's a continuation of

1170
01:01:57,720 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 1: the nine. It's in the same stadium and it's going

1171
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 1: to be the same dynamic with the crowd and everything.

1172
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 1: But I look at that game. Garoppolo did average ten

1173
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:07,040
Speaker 1: yards per attempt in that game. He led them on

1174
01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 1: that lightning quick drive to tie the game at sentence overtime, UM.

1175
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:14,480
Speaker 1: And then I look at some of the big players

1176
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:16,360
Speaker 1: from that game. I'm gonna highlight a couple of years.

1177
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:19,200
Speaker 1: So Deebo Samuel, what else needs to be said about him,

1178
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:21,520
Speaker 1: but he was unbelievable in that game. He had four

1179
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 1: catches for ninety five yards, eight carries for forty five

1180
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:26,880
Speaker 1: yards and a touchdown, and he threw one pass for

1181
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:29,760
Speaker 1: a touchdown for twenty four yards. That's that's him. That's

1182
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 1: peaked Deebo, and I expect to see something potentially similar

1183
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:36,160
Speaker 1: to that on the other side of the ball, and

1184
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 1: it will be interesting because now it's this huge moment

1185
01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:42,600
Speaker 1: uh in the season and in the career of this player.

1186
01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 1: I want to see which odell shows up here. I

1187
01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 1: think Beckham is a fascinating guy um to track in

1188
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 1: this game because he absolutely as much love as he's

1189
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:55,760
Speaker 1: getting right now. The last couple of weeks is Oh,

1190
01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 1: he's back. He's been revitalized. He's bah bah bah, and

1191
01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:02,800
Speaker 1: he has had moments he created. In week eighteen against

1192
01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:07,480
Speaker 1: San Francisco, he killed them, including basically torpedoing the final

1193
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 1: drive when they were trying to uh tie the game

1194
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 1: and overtime. Which O'Dell shows up Does he have a

1195
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:15,560
Speaker 1: big impact, because if he doesn't, I could see the

1196
01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:17,600
Speaker 1: Rams being a little bit of trouble that game was.

1197
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:21,479
Speaker 1: I think this game is going to be right around there.

1198
01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:27,600
Speaker 1: I'll even match same team wins San Francisco finds a way, Dan,

1199
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:29,600
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, And this this was a pick

1200
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 1: I filed earlier for an online thing. I have the

1201
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 1: exact same score with the Niners winning. We're locked in.

1202
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:42,760
Speaker 1: We're in sync completely, just like me and your wife

1203
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 1: have the exact same birthdate, right down to the year right.

1204
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 1: I mean, that's where the of your wife, so ohesion.

1205
01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 1: Uh only starts with that factoids a big Niners fan. Well,

1206
01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 1: I think she's been like, you know, football has not

1207
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 1: been the number one thing, um all season, but it

1208
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 1: has been the last couple of weekends. And I got

1209
01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:05,560
Speaker 1: to give her a lot of credit, UM because I'll

1210
01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:07,480
Speaker 1: be in here, you know, doing work when we're home

1211
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:09,960
Speaker 1: and stuff. I can hear her like screaming down the

1212
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:12,720
Speaker 1: hallway UM on a slight tape delay compared to what

1213
01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 1: we watch UM with anything that happens with So she's

1214
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 1: very enthusiastic. Do you have any did you like after

1215
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:20,600
Speaker 1: the game last week, did you grab her and embrace

1216
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:22,800
Speaker 1: and you pulled back and looked deep in her eyes

1217
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:25,800
Speaker 1: and said, these crazy Niners they did it. They really

1218
01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 1: did it. That was the exact transcript, And that's that's

1219
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:30,200
Speaker 1: how I said it, and that um, that's how I

1220
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 1: delivered it. I'm torn because this Niner team is badass.

1221
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:38,760
Speaker 1: Like we kind of talk about it, but you know

1222
01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:42,320
Speaker 1: how every defensive coordinator starts every like opening press cover

1223
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:45,240
Speaker 1: and saying like we're gonna be fast, we're gonna be physical,

1224
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 1: we're gonna be aggressive. It's like that team they're talking

1225
01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:51,120
Speaker 1: about is this is the forty Niners like they are

1226
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:54,280
Speaker 1: just a group of badasses. And it's both. It's both

1227
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:57,000
Speaker 1: sides of the ball. It's offense and defense. Like I

1228
01:04:57,040 --> 01:04:59,600
Speaker 1: just you just love the way they built their team.

1229
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:01,240
Speaker 1: But I'm with you on O b J. I think

1230
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:04,240
Speaker 1: that's the mismatch here deep down the field, some of

1231
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:07,120
Speaker 1: these throws against these forty Niners cornerbacks, I think, oh

1232
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:09,479
Speaker 1: b J can make a difference. And I think Trent

1233
01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:11,920
Speaker 1: Williams not being a percent, he hasn't been able to

1234
01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:15,120
Speaker 1: practice this week, He's probably gonna play, but you're, you know,

1235
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:18,120
Speaker 1: maybe not a going against von Miller. And then on

1236
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:20,760
Speaker 1: the other side you've got Tom Compton going going up

1237
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:23,480
Speaker 1: against the rest of the Rams. I just trust this

1238
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 1: Rams defense to really hold down a pretty mediocre uh

1239
01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:31,200
Speaker 1: forty Niners offense on balance. And that's why I'm gonna

1240
01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:37,680
Speaker 1: lock up the Rams. Funny, Hey, listen, if this all

1241
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:39,800
Speaker 1: plays out the way we see it, we're gonna get

1242
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:42,880
Speaker 1: some good ass football this week and a little g

1243
01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:47,720
Speaker 1: a f It's gonna be two blowouts, I hope not.

1244
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:51,160
Speaker 1: Sometimes the conference title game day does feel like a

1245
01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:54,680
Speaker 1: letdown from from division around, but not always, not always,

1246
01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 1: Can you guys. See on camera here, how there's a

1247
01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 1: light in my room flickering on and off. Yes, it's

1248
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 1: see I'm about to have a faint soon. Yeah. It's

1249
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 1: like when they before a show with bright flashing lights, like, hey,

1250
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:10,560
Speaker 1: heads up, if you've got an issue in that department,

1251
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:13,720
Speaker 1: turn the channel. Bro. By the way, half the time

1252
01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:15,320
Speaker 1: you don't realize you have an issue in that department

1253
01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:17,120
Speaker 1: until you have an issue. So it's like, you know,

1254
01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:20,080
Speaker 1: it's not something to make light of. That's a serious

1255
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:23,480
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm saying I'm if anything, I'm too serious.

1256
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:26,040
Speaker 1: Say I'm adding to the gravity of the p s A.

1257
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:28,120
Speaker 1: I'm going to add the p s A here that

1258
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:32,120
Speaker 1: kickers matter. A lot of people are jumping on this

1259
01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:36,440
Speaker 1: bandwagon that I've been driving for really years on this podcast, um,

1260
01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 1: getting all excited about the Kickers. But I'm going to

1261
01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:43,800
Speaker 1: tell you right now, the real analysis starts right here

1262
01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:45,760
Speaker 1: on the Around the NFL podcast because I got the

1263
01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:51,959
Speaker 1: final edition of the Kicker Power Rankings. Hypheno hit it, Ricky.

1264
01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:56,880
Speaker 1: Let's get behind the velvet ropes. This is what people

1265
01:06:56,880 --> 01:07:01,840
Speaker 1: have been waiting for. Boys coming in at number four,

1266
01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:05,600
Speaker 1: and I mean no disrespect, and I know you've got

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Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl, but player, hey, playboy, when you missed

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Speaker 1: short from I'm noivous Matt Gay. He was hurt, he

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01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:18,080
Speaker 1: heard himself in pregame warm ups. I thought he said

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Speaker 1: he wasn't though, and it hit a game, game winner.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that's what they said, alright, Polite plause

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Speaker 1: there for Matt Gay a number three. You know, a

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Speaker 1: lot of kickers are at the top of their game

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Speaker 1: last week, and this guy kicked made one of the

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Speaker 1: biggest kicks of his life in sending an all time

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Speaker 1: game to overtime. And yet you miss a pH t,

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Speaker 1: you miss a field goal, you're gonna drop from number

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Speaker 1: one of my power rankings. Harrison Butker number three, Kansas

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Speaker 1: City Chiefs loving this so far. He did the military thing,

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Speaker 1: you know, in the in the Super Bowl, in the Snowball,

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Speaker 1: miss early, make it late, then you're the hero. Yeah,

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01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:01,840
Speaker 1: that's true. Did salvage the day for him, but didn't

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01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:04,880
Speaker 1: keep him at number one, number two. And this was

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01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:11,280
Speaker 1: tough because both these uh kickers deserve credit. But good

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Speaker 1: as Gold he is. Robbie Gold never missed in the

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Speaker 1: postseason twenty still only good enough for the silver pause

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Speaker 1: for applause. Finally number one, Yes, there's only one left.

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Speaker 1: He's the rookie, he's the fifth round pick. Mick Fearless,

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Speaker 1: Evan McPherson, come on down, your number one in the

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Speaker 1: kicker power rankings. That kid unbelievable for eight in the

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Speaker 1: first two weeks of the postseason. Fifty yards coming out

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Speaker 1: of his buttocks. The guy you know the comment that

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Speaker 1: he made to Burrow when he said or he said

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Speaker 1: it to Uh, I believe the backup quarterback said, I

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Speaker 1: guess we're going to the Super Bowl, then kicks are

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Speaker 1: going to then FC Championship. Then kicks that field goal.

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Speaker 1: He's stroking it and he believes. Ah. Yeah, when you

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Speaker 1: you mentioned a fifty yard or coming out of someone's buttocks,

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Speaker 1: I mean visually, I'm struggling to figure out what hell

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Speaker 1: that works, but I should. He was, you know, very

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Speaker 1: very unpredictable Divisional round weekend. But it's very predictable that

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Speaker 1: Dan took offense um that someone else likes kickers. Rach

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01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:30,840
Speaker 1: Rachel Banetta you're referring to had that she had a

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01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:35,599
Speaker 1: great kicker song on podcast. Yeah, I don't take offense

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Speaker 1: to it. And and by the way, I love that

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01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:40,640
Speaker 1: Rachel song. She's very talented and check out her new podcast,

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01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:46,160
Speaker 1: Bench with Banetta on the NFL Media Podcast. I'm a

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01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:48,400
Speaker 1: big Benetta fan. I like that song. I'm just saying

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01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:51,599
Speaker 1: from it just feels like everyone is now coming around

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01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:55,840
Speaker 1: and understanding the importance of these players. But it's no,

1311
01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:57,960
Speaker 1: it's always been that way. It's not just that way now.

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01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:01,200
Speaker 1: I think you're taking back the real estate that was yours.

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01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:03,880
Speaker 1: It's not just hey, everyone, come live on you know,

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Speaker 1: inside the Kickers Club, which you built from you know,

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01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:09,639
Speaker 1: brick by brick, Greg built the Grooda World. You built

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01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:13,880
Speaker 1: the Kickers Club that needed bricks. What have you built? Mark? Well?

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Speaker 1: You know what I like to do is sort of

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01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:18,880
Speaker 1: in these situations, take a step back so that we

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01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:22,880
Speaker 1: can magnify your guys accomplishments. That's very important to me.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's really nice. I'm gonna remind you of this

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01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:28,719
Speaker 1: when mc pherson is lining up for a fifty seven

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01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:31,519
Speaker 1: yard or to send them to the super Bowl. Now,

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01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:33,400
Speaker 1: and now I can feel it. That's how now it's

1324
01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:35,760
Speaker 1: gotten end that that works with my score that went

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01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:40,400
Speaker 1: in by two, right through the uprights breaking what could

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01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:44,879
Speaker 1: go wrong? Indeed, all right, everybody enjoy all this amazing football.

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01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:49,320
Speaker 1: We'll be back on Sunday night. We'll be back at

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01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:54,720
Speaker 1: Stage five at NFL Network recapping both of these games,

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01:10:55,080 --> 01:11:02,960
Speaker 1: any other NFL flotsam that might come across our world

1330
01:11:03,280 --> 01:11:06,760
Speaker 1: before between now and then, And so we hope you're there.

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01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:09,320
Speaker 1: Thank you everybody that's listened to all season long. You know,

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01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:13,160
Speaker 1: I just got to look at the numbers, own the

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01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:17,880
Speaker 1: listener numbers. Oh yeah, extraordinary. They are very very strong

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01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:20,880
Speaker 1: that we we are gaining an audience, Like when you're

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Speaker 1: in your ninth season, Like, look at a show like Friends,

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01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:27,040
Speaker 1: I think went that long. You're maintaining a core audience,

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01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:32,320
Speaker 1: but you're not growing, which we grown. Yeah, I I

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01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:35,160
Speaker 1: would say that the like by season nine, they had

1339
01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:38,559
Speaker 1: looked at the people that had taken Friends, um from

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01:11:38,680 --> 01:11:42,200
Speaker 1: you know nothingness into the biggest show around, and they

1341
01:11:42,479 --> 01:11:47,000
Speaker 1: adequately rewarded them with with um dead presidents and greenbacks.

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01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:50,519
Speaker 1: And that's the part that the company and us don't

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01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:53,679
Speaker 1: seem to be totally jelling on on some level. I'd

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01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:56,680
Speaker 1: just throw that out there, you know, I was, I

1345
01:11:56,760 --> 01:11:58,320
Speaker 1: was gonna hold my tongue on this. But since you

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01:11:58,439 --> 01:12:01,200
Speaker 1: kind of you're adjacent to it and out. So Greg,

1347
01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:04,320
Speaker 1: you're a guy that you know famously, nothing really matters.

1348
01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:10,639
Speaker 1: You're my that's a miscurrent characterization and my issue with that,

1349
01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:13,799
Speaker 1: you don't even know me. The NFL Net, the NFL

1350
01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:18,360
Speaker 1: Network posted their Game Day Live Super Or Conference Championship

1351
01:12:18,439 --> 01:12:24,000
Speaker 1: Sunday coverage and it's it is there obviously their biggest

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01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:26,360
Speaker 1: telecast of the year the way they're building it up.

1353
01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:30,280
Speaker 1: And they have a graphic that has literally twenty seven people,

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01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:35,120
Speaker 1: um right across the front, like we have every angle covered.

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01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:38,240
Speaker 1: And then when you start to check off the boxes

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01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:41,160
Speaker 1: of quote unquote talent, the eight t N boys the

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01:12:41,200 --> 01:12:44,880
Speaker 1: only ones feeling left out. Um. I tend to see

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01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:47,320
Speaker 1: that is, oh, what do we need to do to

1359
01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:49,880
Speaker 1: get on the radar with the SLFs in a bigger spot?

1360
01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:53,040
Speaker 1: But tell me to step away from the ledge and

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01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:55,080
Speaker 1: that would be helpful. Well, first, yeah, I think of

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01:12:55,120 --> 01:12:58,320
Speaker 1: the thirty plus talent, you know, some odd talent that

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Speaker 1: wasn't on that photo to you know, we're not the

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Speaker 1: only ones. Um, But is that what you want? I

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01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:07,519
Speaker 1: like doing our show frankly, Um, I mean, if if

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01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:09,880
Speaker 1: we if they needed us to help out, that's great,

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01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:13,760
Speaker 1: But um, I think we have more fun. Let's say

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01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:19,200
Speaker 1: we should replace like mooch rich and urban we maybe Hey,

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01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:22,599
Speaker 1: now we're gonna throw it to our most successful venture,

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Speaker 1: the podcast on the podcast group take it Away, guys,

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01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:28,640
Speaker 1: that would be just would be fine. But I was

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01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:31,200
Speaker 1: at the beach the last two weeks before the game

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01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:35,360
Speaker 1: starts with my kids and that that seems pretty good too,

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01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:40,040
Speaker 1: to be on national television. So you know, your mental

1375
01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:47,360
Speaker 1: health is just off the charts that day, and I'm just, no,

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01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:50,880
Speaker 1: you're healthy. It's a healthy mindset. I'm very happy here

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01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:52,760
Speaker 1: at the NFL. I just I'm just saying, you know,

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01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:55,160
Speaker 1: I wanted to be in the image. I don't know

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01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:56,840
Speaker 1: if that makes me a bad guy, but yeah, that

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Speaker 1: means that means you have to be on the show. Though.

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Speaker 1: That's the trick, that's the thing, right, everybody on the show. Yeah,

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01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:05,439
Speaker 1: that's the show. So you know, if you look like

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01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:07,439
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people that aren't on that show.

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01:14:07,479 --> 01:14:09,320
Speaker 1: You know, a lot most of the reporters, right, and

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01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:11,519
Speaker 1: a lot of the as Connie was in the image,

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01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:13,559
Speaker 1: is Connie on the show. Yeah. So I think they

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01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:15,320
Speaker 1: have like a game, you know, they go to the

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01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:19,320
Speaker 1: Saturday crew. I don't even know, like the Saturday Good

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01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:25,240
Speaker 1: Morning Football worked for us. He's in the image. I

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01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:27,120
Speaker 1: mean I think Jack Ruby was in the image, and

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01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:30,240
Speaker 1: I think he's coming in. He's coming in for yeah,

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01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:33,599
Speaker 1: for special. I'm a current player analysis, I don't know,

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01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:37,840
Speaker 1: you know special. It does seem like they they didn't

1394
01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:39,240
Speaker 1: want us to be a part of it. It's like,

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01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:42,960
Speaker 1: here's a hundred and six people, um and there it's

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01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:44,760
Speaker 1: you know what had it been? We were talking like

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01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:46,760
Speaker 1: a two minute round table. Throw it to us. We

1398
01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:49,519
Speaker 1: argue for two we get to an ad break forget

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01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:51,639
Speaker 1: about me or Mark being in the image. But Greg,

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Speaker 1: what if they like put you on Calias's shoulders like

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01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:58,960
Speaker 1: in the image. I have seen him in person. He's

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01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:01,320
Speaker 1: a he's in a normal know you have to He's

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01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:06,360
Speaker 1: the largest man I've ever seen. Enormous human. He was,

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01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:10,920
Speaker 1: wasn't he on that Cardinals? He was largest human he

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01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:13,719
Speaker 1: was on the he was on the Carson Palmer teams

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01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:16,120
Speaker 1: and he was I think I don't think he went

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01:15:16,200 --> 01:15:19,760
Speaker 1: back beyond that. Um. But he was not only one

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01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:22,679
Speaker 1: of the largest people I've ever met, he is super

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01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:27,360
Speaker 1: nice dude. So I'm sure he'll do great. Anyway, We

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01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:30,080
Speaker 1: wish him well and he seems to already be into

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01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:34,400
Speaker 1: a he wasn't his career. He was a rookie starter

1412
01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:38,240
Speaker 1: playing against Big Ben and the Steelers, and that's how

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01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:42,400
Speaker 1: nailed it. Um. So how about this, we will close

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Speaker 1: it this way because we are all on the same team.

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01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:49,759
Speaker 1: Watch Game day morning on Sunday. Check out that content.

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01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:52,400
Speaker 1: It's going to be stellar with Eisen and the whole crew,

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01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:56,479
Speaker 1: literally the whole crew. Then enjoy all the football and

1418
01:15:56,520 --> 01:16:00,800
Speaker 1: then you can watch the more NFL network. But then

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01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:04,480
Speaker 1: close it out with you Around the NFL Podcast Championship

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01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:07,559
Speaker 1: Sunday recap. There you go, Greg, that that just cleans

1421
01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:11,080
Speaker 1: up all the loose ends there. Watch the Around the

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01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:15,280
Speaker 1: NFL broadcast too. Did you say that on Saturday? Job

1423
01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:20,680
Speaker 1: on Saturday? And if you're in the UK and Ireland territories,

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01:16:21,280 --> 01:16:24,000
Speaker 1: check us out on Sky Sports this weekend. We're part

1425
01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:28,760
Speaker 1: of the nel UH coverage with their gang over there. Well,

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01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:31,240
Speaker 1: they do want us, I mean they seem willing to

1427
01:16:31,479 --> 01:16:34,280
Speaker 1: UH to put us on air here and there, so

1428
01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:38,040
Speaker 1: there's a different relationship there. Vice President of International Henry

1429
01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:40,720
Speaker 1: Hodgson did reach out and say we are on the

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Speaker 1: image for Sky Sports. I love it all right, that's enough.

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Speaker 1: Thank you to everybody for listening, enjoy the football, let's

1432
01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:56,000
Speaker 1: have a nice, safe weekend and we'll see a Sunday night.

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Speaker 1: Until then, feed the car, s S S S S