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Speaker 1: NHL Unscripted is a production of the NHL and iHeart podcasts.

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Speaker 1: Coming up on NHL Unscripted, Porter Mortone, Hey, Porter, unbelievable

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Speaker 1: at the World Championships. Right now, I'm going to talk

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Speaker 1: without him, play with Sidney Crosby. More ms about Monona Rayome. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: she's back in the news and sin City snouth. What

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Speaker 1: a sin City snub? What is John Torrella doing? Pissing

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Speaker 1: the media off? Never good idea, especially because he was

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Speaker 1: just working for the.

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Speaker 2: Media and the ESPN.

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Speaker 1: I could have Nate Thompson back in the fold. Here

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Speaker 1: it's me and JD. Raider Rock. We had a Final

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Speaker 1: four baby, ready to go and tal you can lead

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Speaker 1: us in this native former hab JD from Montreal. Oh

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Speaker 1: lay oh oh, Final four Baby. The Conference final is

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Speaker 1: set Avalanche and Golden Knights and the Hurricanes and the

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Speaker 1: Montreal Canadians. Colorado took two or three in the season

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Speaker 1: series against Vegas, although the Golden Knights won the last

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Speaker 1: meeting three to two in overtime on April eleventh. Colorado

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Speaker 1: hasn't played in a week while Mitch Marner leads all

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Speaker 1: playoff scores. We'll get to the habs and the Hurricanes

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Speaker 1: in just a second. Jad. The general feeling is that

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Speaker 1: the Avalanche are gonna romp. They've been unbelievable all seasons.

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Speaker 1: Start to finish though, the best team in hockey Vegas.

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Speaker 1: You know they're not gonna be able to go down

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Speaker 1: without a fight. But it's gonna be h not a

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Speaker 2: What do you got.

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Speaker 1: This?

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Speaker 3: This is your music for the ass all the night.

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Speaker 3: This song has just been going viral with the Canadians.

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Speaker 3: They keep posting it and people absolutely love it every

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Speaker 3: time they win. This is kids singing a French shot

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Speaker 3: of people. What was the question I was looking for?

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Speaker 3: It was all good Vegas. It's all good. I can see.

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Speaker 2: Are we going Vegas Golden Knights?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Dala's gonna run a Vegas Golden Knights first, no

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Speaker 1: HAPs bias. Yeah, it feels like the Avalanche of the

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Speaker 1: prohibitive favorites. Obviously, some people are saying that it's not

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Speaker 1: gonna be a fair fight. Can the Golden Knights win this?

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Speaker 1: Quite frankly, yeah, I think so.

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Speaker 2: I listen.

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Speaker 3: I think everybody's overlooking Vegas and I have Colorado to

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Speaker 3: win it all. I think they look incredible, but Cale

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Speaker 3: mccarr not practicing that little injury at the end of

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Speaker 3: round two did not look good. Looked like he's been

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Speaker 3: playing with something. I mean, hasn't skated in three four days.

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Speaker 3: And then he's going to go and if he plays,

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Speaker 3: how effective is he going to be? Because you know

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Speaker 3: we were talking before. You know, typically when if it's

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Speaker 3: can shoot you up with with some kind of nerve blockers.

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Speaker 3: You can play, but you're not skating at all, So

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Speaker 3: that that leads you to believe it's it's either mid section,

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Speaker 3: I mean, they've done well without him this season. He

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Speaker 3: missed him and they have a winning record, So I'm

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Speaker 3: not worried because they're so deep, but it just leads

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Speaker 3: me to believe that that's a big missing piece for

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Speaker 3: Colorado and Vegas is if you look at the first

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Speaker 3: the Colorado Avanage Utah very fast. You look at Anaheim,

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Speaker 3: you know Carter Hart was finding his game. Now against Anaheim,

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Speaker 3: I think I think I wouldn't be surprised if Vegas

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Speaker 2: But I think they can take game one.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think this is going to be a long series.

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Speaker 4: And to your point, Gud, I agree. I mean I

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Speaker 4: look at their centers and it's Keel Carlson, Hurdle and

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Speaker 4: It matches up with Colorado if you look at that

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Speaker 4: what would you say in net. I mean, Carter Hart's

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Speaker 4: been unbelievable for Vegas the first two rounds and where

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Speaker 4: going to be very interesting. I don't foresee Colorado stomping

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Speaker 1: It's interesting thus far in the playoffs, the Avalanche and

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Speaker 1: they've been better in the playoffs, they haven't been strength

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Speaker 3: Oh, it's going to be a big you know, you

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Speaker 3: look at Mitch Marner in that you talk about a while,

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Speaker 2: So it's really opened up some stuff.

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Speaker 3: And they haven't elected and I heard I heard them

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Speaker 3: The expect it to be a lot tighter the next series,

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Speaker 1: All right, let's move on to the next series. That

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Speaker 1: Montreal was the last team to make the conference finals.

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Speaker 3: Well, they swept him in the seasons heres and I

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Speaker 3: and I think it'll be real fast. But yeah, it's

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Speaker 3: He's not, David Carl, you need to pay him two

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Speaker 3: And then he even says like, no, they're not going

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Speaker 4: Don't mess with Gary Towards, don't mess with Gary. Don't

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Speaker 3: They're like, it doesn't matter, you have to make yourself available.

432
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Speaker 3: But yeah, it's it's an interesting it was an interesting one,

433
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Speaker 3: and yeah, it's it's tough. I think you're I think

434
00:21:12,672 --> 00:21:14,472
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, you still gotta just

435
00:21:15,392 --> 00:21:17,752
Speaker 3: whatever it is and whatever you got going on, you

436
00:21:17,872 --> 00:21:21,072
Speaker 3: gotta just you gotta get out there and sit there

437
00:21:21,072 --> 00:21:24,032
Speaker 3: for if you gotta answer one question and leave, you

438
00:21:24,112 --> 00:21:25,592
Speaker 3: got to answer one question and leave.

439
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Speaker 2: So that's it.

440
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Speaker 1: Ultimately disappointing there as far as the media are concerned,

441
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Speaker 1: The Vegas couldn't care less.

442
00:21:31,672 --> 00:21:32,592
Speaker 2: Hey, look, the conference finals.

443
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Speaker 1: Let's move this thing along, all right, Bless you too,

444
00:21:34,712 --> 00:21:37,591
Speaker 1: still to come here In NHL unscripted Tony Cornado with

445
00:21:37,752 --> 00:21:41,432
Speaker 1: stories of comparing how Brian Leech and Matthew Shaffer size up,

446
00:21:41,432 --> 00:21:44,392
Speaker 1: plus his own journey overcoming serious adversity in the game,

447
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Speaker 1: and who he likes the Conference finals. Tony g is

448
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Speaker 1: coming up after this on NHL Unscripted. Our next guest

449
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Speaker 1: was draped in the sixth round, one hundred and twenty

450
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Speaker 1: four row up with the New York Rangers the nineteen

451
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Speaker 1: eighty two NHL Draft. You were going to collect two

452
00:22:08,792 --> 00:22:10,631
Speaker 1: hundred and forty eight goals and four hundred ninety two

453
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Speaker 1: points in seven hundred and seventy four career games the Rangers, Kings,

454
00:22:14,312 --> 00:22:17,592
Speaker 1: and Sharks before embarking a successful coaching career that saw

455
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Speaker 1: him serve as head coach of the Colorado Avalanche and

456
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Speaker 1: at the University of Wisconsin. An Olympian is both a

457
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Speaker 1: player and a coach, and the Bill Masterton Trophy winner

458
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Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety seven. It's everyone's favorite, Tony Granado. Tony,

459
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Speaker 1: great to see you, Thanks guys, thanks for having me.

460
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Speaker 1: We always love senior course in NHL Newick. You always

461
00:22:34,832 --> 00:22:37,112
Speaker 1: busy on NHL Neverwock Radio as well with Nate Thompson.

462
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Speaker 1: So let's get right to it. What do you make

463
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Speaker 1: of the conference finals matchups? Is this what you would expected?

464
00:22:41,952 --> 00:22:44,832
Speaker 1: Avalanche Golden Knights and the Haves and the Hurricanes.

465
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Speaker 5: I expected the Avalanche Golden Knights probably to meet up,

466
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Speaker 5: you know, the Golden Knights having to beat the two

467
00:22:56,912 --> 00:22:59,992
Speaker 5: teams they did were interesting challengers. But but I thought

468
00:23:00,032 --> 00:23:02,752
Speaker 5: the maturity and the you know, torch coming in there

469
00:23:02,752 --> 00:23:04,792
Speaker 5: and kind of settling that group down and get ready

470
00:23:04,792 --> 00:23:07,672
Speaker 5: for playoffs was appropriate at the time of the change

471
00:23:07,672 --> 00:23:10,952
Speaker 5: and the coaching change, So I expected that. I think

472
00:23:10,952 --> 00:23:13,432
Speaker 5: the Montreal one would be the biggest surprise of that

473
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Speaker 5: team being there still at this point. So they've done

474
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Speaker 5: things with the goaltender that I think everybody coming in

475
00:23:19,792 --> 00:23:22,032
Speaker 5: knew he was good, but didn't know if he could

476
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Speaker 5: put it together a run like he's had. So kudos

477
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Speaker 5: to Montreal and Dobish and what they've accomplished. And and

478
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Speaker 5: you know, it looks like Carolina is the big favorite.

479
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Speaker 5: That looks like Colorado's. I wouldn't say quite as big

480
00:23:36,192 --> 00:23:39,831
Speaker 5: of a favorite, but the favorite to advance. But I

481
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Speaker 5: think both of these series are very interesting for different reasons.

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Speaker 3: Ton you know, what do you make I wanted to

483
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Speaker 3: talk to you a little bit about like the coaching stuff,

484
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Speaker 3: and you look at Torts in Vegas and specifically you know,

485
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Speaker 3: and finds the side. You know, he comes in with

486
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Speaker 3: seven games left in the season, and how is that

487
00:24:00,672 --> 00:24:04,112
Speaker 3: as a coach from your lens, like coming into to

488
00:24:04,192 --> 00:24:07,192
Speaker 3: it team like this veteran or not and having to

489
00:24:07,232 --> 00:24:09,752
Speaker 3: like earn the trust of these players, and then now

490
00:24:09,792 --> 00:24:13,632
Speaker 3: you're going into the conference finals staring down the Colorado Avalanche.

491
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Speaker 5: You know, when that kind of a move is made,

492
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Speaker 5: it does seem kind of drastic, but sometimes it makes sense.

493
00:24:20,392 --> 00:24:22,632
Speaker 5: And the reason I say that maybe it makes sense

494
00:24:22,632 --> 00:24:25,472
Speaker 5: in this situation is I think we all were expecting

495
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Speaker 5: a little more rhythm to Vegas's game throughout the year,

496
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Speaker 5: and it looked like they were pottering around, you know,

497
00:24:32,712 --> 00:24:35,912
Speaker 5: mediocrity for part of it, and it's like, gosh, there's

498
00:24:35,952 --> 00:24:39,592
Speaker 5: something just not running as smoothly as you thought it would.

499
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Speaker 5: So I think that that kind of made sense as

500
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Speaker 5: you look back on it when it happened, you're like,

501
00:24:45,592 --> 00:24:47,872
Speaker 5: oh my gosh, you gotta be kidneyed. Bruce Cassie's a

502
00:24:47,872 --> 00:24:51,272
Speaker 5: great coach. Vegas looks like, you know, as always, they'll

503
00:24:51,312 --> 00:24:53,792
Speaker 5: be ready for the playoffs. But something was not quite right.

504
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Speaker 5: So that made sense to me and Towards coming in

505
00:24:56,552 --> 00:24:59,392
Speaker 5: there was probably the right guy that was available to

506
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Speaker 5: be able to start that engine up and get these

507
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Speaker 5: guys fired up. And most importantly, what you want you

508
00:25:04,552 --> 00:25:08,112
Speaker 5: want your best players to have the right mindset heading

509
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Speaker 5: into playoffs. So when Marner and Towrts had their little

510
00:25:12,312 --> 00:25:15,152
Speaker 5: introduction to one another, whether they had a relationship from

511
00:25:15,152 --> 00:25:18,232
Speaker 5: the past or not, it looked like something there got Marner,

512
00:25:18,552 --> 00:25:22,392
Speaker 5: you know, more relaxed and more creative offensively, and Carter

513
00:25:22,512 --> 00:25:25,712
Speaker 5: Hart and net they had They for sure had time

514
00:25:25,752 --> 00:25:28,712
Speaker 5: together in Philly. So that relationship with your starting goalie

515
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Speaker 5: and a new head coach coming in. If those two

516
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Speaker 5: players were the ones that were impacted the most, one

517
00:25:34,192 --> 00:25:35,792
Speaker 5: of them is in the net and one of them

518
00:25:35,832 --> 00:25:38,992
Speaker 5: is leading the offensively, I think then that's where you

519
00:25:39,032 --> 00:25:43,232
Speaker 5: can see the immediate effects of how it's helped Vegas

520
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Speaker 5: through the first two rounds.

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Speaker 4: Just an extension off of JD's question, Tony and just

522
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Speaker 4: you know where the coaching landscape is today and how

523
00:25:54,192 --> 00:25:56,272
Speaker 4: you know you're seeing these young coaches and I look

524
00:25:56,312 --> 00:26:01,312
Speaker 4: at Martin both and you're seeing coaches like Marty Saint

525
00:26:01,392 --> 00:26:04,752
Speaker 4: Louis and there you know the way the way they coach,

526
00:26:04,832 --> 00:26:06,992
Speaker 4: and it's just different. Now you know, where do you

527
00:26:07,032 --> 00:26:09,192
Speaker 4: stand and you know, how do you feel on where

528
00:26:09,192 --> 00:26:11,591
Speaker 4: the coaching I guess is going these days and the

529
00:26:11,592 --> 00:26:12,632
Speaker 4: philosophy behind it.

530
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Speaker 5: Well, Marty's a different type of coach and towards there's

531
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Speaker 5: no doubt that the way he has helped this younger

532
00:26:20,312 --> 00:26:25,112
Speaker 5: team gain confidence in the underdog position that they've kind

533
00:26:25,112 --> 00:26:28,512
Speaker 5: of been in and kind of building them to gain

534
00:26:28,552 --> 00:26:31,592
Speaker 5: confidence and their goaltender gain confidence in the way they play,

535
00:26:32,152 --> 00:26:34,792
Speaker 5: become unflappable when the other team out shoots your thirty

536
00:26:34,912 --> 00:26:36,632
Speaker 5: something to nine and you still find a way to

537
00:26:36,632 --> 00:26:38,952
Speaker 5: win a game and be able to walk away from

538
00:26:39,152 --> 00:26:42,952
Speaker 5: a defeat like they got in Game six against Buffalo

539
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Speaker 5: and be able to respond and bounce forward, like he says,

540
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Speaker 5: like a little things like that that Marty has has

541
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Speaker 5: kind of whether it's silliness, whether it's you know, playing

542
00:26:51,912 --> 00:26:54,392
Speaker 5: the underdog role that he played his entire career, not

543
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Speaker 5: being drafted and making it the Hall of Fame. You

544
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Speaker 5: know he's done for Kaffield, Suzuki Slevkowski, the goaltender. You

545
00:27:00,912 --> 00:27:04,872
Speaker 5: know that team can rally around your coach is whether

546
00:27:04,912 --> 00:27:08,152
Speaker 5: you call it silliness, whether you call it just a

547
00:27:08,192 --> 00:27:12,232
Speaker 5: different type of attitude than most coaches have had. I think, Marty,

548
00:27:12,552 --> 00:27:15,712
Speaker 5: you know when he took the job, unless I kid ourselves,

549
00:27:15,832 --> 00:27:18,752
Speaker 5: you expect the guy to be hired that's coaching somewhere

550
00:27:18,792 --> 00:27:20,832
Speaker 5: else or has a history of coaching in the NHL.

551
00:27:20,992 --> 00:27:23,192
Speaker 5: He was coaching kids, and you know he's coaching his

552
00:27:23,272 --> 00:27:25,352
Speaker 5: kids back home, and all of a sudden you bring

553
00:27:25,352 --> 00:27:27,032
Speaker 5: in a youth kid that's coaching pee wee's or ban

554
00:27:27,112 --> 00:27:29,512
Speaker 5: them and say, hey's your NHL coach. Now you're like okay,

555
00:27:30,072 --> 00:27:32,192
Speaker 5: and then you give them some time to say, well,

556
00:27:32,232 --> 00:27:34,752
Speaker 5: why did they pick him? I think right now we're

557
00:27:34,832 --> 00:27:37,792
Speaker 5: understanding why they picked him. And he has a nice

558
00:27:38,472 --> 00:27:41,032
Speaker 5: way of getting the most out of players and making

559
00:27:41,072 --> 00:27:44,312
Speaker 5: the players believe in themselves. And as a coach, that's

560
00:27:44,352 --> 00:27:47,352
Speaker 5: your job. Make your players believe that you can beat

561
00:27:47,512 --> 00:27:50,112
Speaker 5: somebody and that you can be productive and that you

562
00:27:50,112 --> 00:27:54,152
Speaker 5: can be as successful. And he's whatever he's given those guys,

563
00:27:54,712 --> 00:27:57,831
Speaker 5: they've really kind of molded as a team and have

564
00:27:57,992 --> 00:28:00,832
Speaker 5: been been very exciting so far throughout the playoffs.

565
00:28:01,712 --> 00:28:04,352
Speaker 1: Yeah, Marty, whether it's wilful Wall Street post game chance

566
00:28:04,592 --> 00:28:05,992
Speaker 1: just getting fast fired up here.

567
00:28:08,472 --> 00:28:09,312
Speaker 2: Before show.

568
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Speaker 5: And Nate. Don't forget.

569
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Speaker 1: You came to the HL Tony the Rangers the same

570
00:28:17,112 --> 00:28:19,432
Speaker 1: year as young defenseman named Brian Leach when the Calder

571
00:28:19,472 --> 00:28:22,312
Speaker 1: Trophy that year. A lot of comps between Leachy and

572
00:28:22,392 --> 00:28:25,311
Speaker 1: Matthew Schaeffer. What similarities do you see? What differences do

573
00:28:25,352 --> 00:28:25,792
Speaker 1: you see?

574
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Speaker 5: That's a good one is because this is interesting when

575
00:28:30,392 --> 00:28:32,792
Speaker 5: you say that. The first time I saw Quinn Hughes

576
00:28:32,832 --> 00:28:36,512
Speaker 5: play and obviously different size, but I said, oh my gosh,

577
00:28:36,512 --> 00:28:39,552
Speaker 5: this guy controls the game and the puck and makes

578
00:28:39,552 --> 00:28:42,112
Speaker 5: it easy for the forwards because he pulls two or

579
00:28:42,112 --> 00:28:44,192
Speaker 5: three defenders to him and the next thing you know,

580
00:28:44,232 --> 00:28:45,552
Speaker 5: he passes it to you and you got a lot

581
00:28:45,592 --> 00:28:50,072
Speaker 5: more time in space. Uh so, uh I do Since

582
00:28:50,072 --> 00:28:52,832
Speaker 5: you bring up Schaeffer and Leech, when when Brian came

583
00:28:52,872 --> 00:28:55,032
Speaker 5: to the Rangers, you know, all of a sudden there

584
00:28:55,072 --> 00:28:58,832
Speaker 5: was a different type of player that joined the lineup

585
00:28:59,272 --> 00:29:02,712
Speaker 5: and it made everybody else go holy cow. Like I

586
00:29:02,792 --> 00:29:04,952
Speaker 5: just said, it makes it easy on the full because

587
00:29:04,992 --> 00:29:08,792
Speaker 5: he's created so much offense. Uh So, yeah, I see similarities.

588
00:29:08,832 --> 00:29:12,352
Speaker 5: I think what Schaeffer did. Uh you know, I got

589
00:29:12,352 --> 00:29:14,952
Speaker 5: to meet him last year at the Draft and just

590
00:29:14,992 --> 00:29:16,752
Speaker 5: sit down with the kid for a few minutes, and

591
00:29:16,792 --> 00:29:18,872
Speaker 5: I'm like, I'm a fan of that kid, and I

592
00:29:18,872 --> 00:29:21,712
Speaker 5: ain't gonna cheer loud for him and hoping things go

593
00:29:21,792 --> 00:29:25,392
Speaker 5: well for him, and to see what he's accomplished under

594
00:29:25,432 --> 00:29:27,832
Speaker 5: this you know situation that he had, you know, the

595
00:29:27,912 --> 00:29:29,832
Speaker 5: year leading up with the injury and with what he

596
00:29:29,872 --> 00:29:32,552
Speaker 5: had to deal with off the ice. Uh, and just

597
00:29:32,872 --> 00:29:36,592
Speaker 5: to be such a nice, nice human being. Uh, it's

598
00:29:36,672 --> 00:29:39,592
Speaker 5: just been a great story. Uh. So Brian Leach would

599
00:29:39,592 --> 00:29:42,032
Speaker 5: take that compliment when you compare him and it and

600
00:29:42,272 --> 00:29:45,912
Speaker 5: Brian Leach for me, you know, you got Chris Chellios

601
00:29:45,952 --> 00:29:50,112
Speaker 5: as a defenseman American defenseman. You got maybe Phil Housley

602
00:29:50,112 --> 00:29:52,792
Speaker 5: and maybe a couple others, But but Brian Leach was

603
00:29:52,832 --> 00:29:53,872
Speaker 5: as good as anybody.

604
00:29:54,032 --> 00:29:54,192
Speaker 4: Uh.

605
00:29:54,232 --> 00:29:56,712
Speaker 5: And I'm glad you brought his name up, because Brian

606
00:29:56,872 --> 00:29:58,432
Speaker 5: was was one of those ones that was kind of

607
00:29:58,512 --> 00:30:00,912
Speaker 5: under the radar, didn't like the media attention so much

608
00:30:00,952 --> 00:30:03,632
Speaker 5: and kind of quietly did his thing. But he was

609
00:30:03,632 --> 00:30:07,472
Speaker 5: certainly a Hall of Fame player that deserves a lot

610
00:30:07,512 --> 00:30:07,952
Speaker 5: of attention.

611
00:30:08,872 --> 00:30:10,592
Speaker 2: You gotta, you gotta favorite Brian Leech.

612
00:30:10,672 --> 00:30:12,992
Speaker 3: Story off the top of your head or something that

613
00:30:13,392 --> 00:30:16,072
Speaker 3: sticks out to you, whether on the ice or give

614
00:30:16,112 --> 00:30:16,752
Speaker 3: me off the ice.

615
00:30:16,792 --> 00:30:18,952
Speaker 5: Is he like the off the ice stuff? Because you heard.

616
00:30:21,392 --> 00:30:23,112
Speaker 2: Guy. Yeah, he's a.

617
00:30:22,952 --> 00:30:29,952
Speaker 5: Phenomenal, phenomenal guy, phenomenal teammate, very one of those superstars

618
00:30:30,432 --> 00:30:32,392
Speaker 5: that just shows up and you look at him in

619
00:30:32,392 --> 00:30:35,072
Speaker 5: the locker room, you look around and you go, he

620
00:30:35,192 --> 00:30:38,152
Speaker 5: doesn't kind of play that role in the room. He's

621
00:30:38,192 --> 00:30:39,832
Speaker 5: just quiet. But when he gets on the ice, he

622
00:30:39,832 --> 00:30:43,072
Speaker 5: gets the puck on his stick. He made so many

623
00:30:43,112 --> 00:30:46,472
Speaker 5: things happen, So just one that I you know, as

624
00:30:46,552 --> 00:30:49,312
Speaker 5: I'll tell you this though, as a young player coming

625
00:30:49,352 --> 00:30:52,152
Speaker 5: into the NHL to do it with somebody else. I

626
00:30:52,192 --> 00:30:54,352
Speaker 5: was a rookie the same year as Brian was, you know,

627
00:30:54,352 --> 00:30:56,432
Speaker 5: and I had I not had Brian to help me

628
00:30:56,512 --> 00:30:59,592
Speaker 5: and kind of be there as a partner, you know,

629
00:30:59,592 --> 00:31:02,512
Speaker 5: it would have been much more difficult for myself. So

630
00:31:02,552 --> 00:31:04,952
Speaker 5: I appreciate the help he gave me and the attention

631
00:31:05,072 --> 00:31:08,192
Speaker 5: that that he brought to our team and our organization

632
00:31:09,512 --> 00:31:11,512
Speaker 5: with what he did his rookie year. I mean as

633
00:31:11,552 --> 00:31:14,152
Speaker 5: a defenseman. You know, You're right, Schaeffer was probably the

634
00:31:14,232 --> 00:31:17,792
Speaker 5: comparable for for coming in and being able to dominate

635
00:31:17,872 --> 00:31:20,992
Speaker 5: the way Brian did back in nineteen eighty eight.

636
00:31:21,272 --> 00:31:21,552
Speaker 1: J D.

637
00:31:21,912 --> 00:31:23,272
Speaker 5: That's a long time ago.

638
00:31:24,632 --> 00:31:26,832
Speaker 3: And I love how you just danced around the off

639
00:31:26,872 --> 00:31:31,792
Speaker 3: ice question this well, I was just an absolute master class.

640
00:31:32,352 --> 00:31:34,152
Speaker 5: And you know what, he used to come over. We

641
00:31:34,232 --> 00:31:35,432
Speaker 5: used to play. You want to know what we did

642
00:31:35,432 --> 00:31:36,992
Speaker 5: in nineteen eighty eight, He used to come over. We

643
00:31:37,072 --> 00:31:39,032
Speaker 5: used to play was it was an Xbox, it was

644
00:31:39,112 --> 00:31:39,952
Speaker 5: something else.

645
00:31:40,232 --> 00:31:42,832
Speaker 1: Into the original into.

646
00:31:44,032 --> 00:31:46,192
Speaker 5: We was playing Intendo. My wife used to make us lunch.

647
00:31:46,752 --> 00:31:49,272
Speaker 5: Brian being single, we'd hang out on the couch. That's

648
00:31:49,272 --> 00:31:51,032
Speaker 5: what we did in our off days. We played Nintendo.

649
00:31:51,672 --> 00:31:54,392
Speaker 5: I love I love it. I gave it.

650
00:31:54,432 --> 00:31:57,952
Speaker 2: I love it as the best ever. That was Ladies

651
00:31:57,992 --> 00:31:58,872
Speaker 2: and gentlemen. That was a.

652
00:31:58,792 --> 00:32:00,952
Speaker 5: Master respond answer we're looking for.

653
00:32:01,672 --> 00:32:05,072
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a great response. That's a master Go ahead, Nate,

654
00:32:05,152 --> 00:32:06,672
Speaker 3: go take the LA question then.

655
00:32:06,792 --> 00:32:08,312
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I was, That's what I was. I mean,

656
00:32:08,352 --> 00:32:10,872
Speaker 4: we're talking about off ice. You get traded to LA

657
00:32:10,912 --> 00:32:13,152
Speaker 4: in eighty nine, and that's the Gretzki era. I mean,

658
00:32:13,192 --> 00:32:16,072
Speaker 4: there's got to be some some Hollywood stories memories off

659
00:32:16,072 --> 00:32:17,632
Speaker 4: the ice being in LA at that time.

660
00:32:19,352 --> 00:32:23,112
Speaker 5: Yes, and so yeah, you know what it's like as

661
00:32:23,112 --> 00:32:26,872
Speaker 5: a player though, like yes, yeah, your rookie year. You

662
00:32:26,912 --> 00:32:29,192
Speaker 5: get this team and you're all excited. You're in New York,

663
00:32:29,632 --> 00:32:31,952
Speaker 5: you're playing an original six, and it's like, oh man,

664
00:32:31,992 --> 00:32:33,992
Speaker 5: I can't this is going to be great. Then and

665
00:32:34,032 --> 00:32:37,432
Speaker 5: I got the old contract signed. After my first year,

666
00:32:37,472 --> 00:32:40,272
Speaker 5: they gave me a extension, which was unheard of back then.

667
00:32:40,312 --> 00:32:42,032
Speaker 5: They said, hey, we want you to be a Ranger.

668
00:32:42,072 --> 00:32:44,392
Speaker 5: I heard this. I heard this. We want you to

669
00:32:44,432 --> 00:32:47,392
Speaker 5: be the Ranger forever. Right. You're like, okay, that's great.

670
00:32:47,392 --> 00:32:49,672
Speaker 5: I only played one year, but forever sounds pretty good.

671
00:32:50,312 --> 00:32:53,512
Speaker 5: And so I signed a two year extension deal and

672
00:32:53,552 --> 00:32:55,592
Speaker 5: you're thinking, okay, we can get a house now. We're

673
00:32:55,592 --> 00:32:57,272
Speaker 5: all was set. They just told me I'm gonna be

674
00:32:57,312 --> 00:32:59,912
Speaker 5: here forever. Well, sure enough. Few months later that you

675
00:32:59,992 --> 00:33:03,192
Speaker 5: get the rumors around, hey, Tony Gernando maybe going to

676
00:33:03,312 --> 00:33:05,472
Speaker 5: La blah blah blah, and you know what I thought

677
00:33:05,472 --> 00:33:07,352
Speaker 5: of it, and I'm thinking, man, that would really stink,

678
00:33:07,472 --> 00:33:09,712
Speaker 5: and trade it. And then I get a call from

679
00:33:09,832 --> 00:33:13,192
Speaker 5: La saying, hey, this is Bruce McNall calling. We just

680
00:33:13,272 --> 00:33:16,072
Speaker 5: did trade for you and we can't get wait till

681
00:33:16,072 --> 00:33:18,592
Speaker 5: you get to LA. And I said, that's really cool,

682
00:33:18,632 --> 00:33:21,072
Speaker 5: you know, and he goes and by the way, Tony goes,

683
00:33:21,112 --> 00:33:24,912
Speaker 5: when when you played against us last year, Wayne said

684
00:33:24,952 --> 00:33:26,432
Speaker 5: after the game, he came up to me, he goes, Hey,

685
00:33:26,472 --> 00:33:28,512
Speaker 5: if we can get that Grnado guy someday, that would

686
00:33:28,512 --> 00:33:30,632
Speaker 5: be really good and helpful. And I'm like, oh my gosh,

687
00:33:30,672 --> 00:33:33,472
Speaker 5: Wayne Gretzky knows who I am. Wow. So that was

688
00:33:33,512 --> 00:33:37,152
Speaker 5: the introduction to LA, and I didn't miss and think,

689
00:33:37,192 --> 00:33:39,712
Speaker 5: oh my gosh, I can't believe I'm, you know, traded anymore.

690
00:33:39,712 --> 00:33:42,152
Speaker 5: I'm like, Okay, I got a reason that I want

691
00:33:42,192 --> 00:33:44,472
Speaker 5: to be in LA. And so so that kind of

692
00:33:45,432 --> 00:33:49,712
Speaker 5: was was really what Wayne was all about in welcoming

693
00:33:49,752 --> 00:33:52,392
Speaker 5: me and Thomas. Thomas Anstrum and I were traded together,

694
00:33:52,432 --> 00:33:55,232
Speaker 5: which also helps going with a partner. And then we

695
00:33:55,232 --> 00:33:57,832
Speaker 5: got to LA and got the chance to see what

696
00:33:57,832 --> 00:34:03,432
Speaker 5: Wayne was all about for close to seven years, and

697
00:34:04,432 --> 00:34:08,112
Speaker 5: I can't tell you how much excitement, how much I learned,

698
00:34:09,431 --> 00:34:13,631
Speaker 5: and what it was to be alongside grets And then

699
00:34:13,631 --> 00:34:16,392
Speaker 5: there were other great players there. That's Larry Robinson was

700
00:34:16,431 --> 00:34:19,711
Speaker 5: still there, Dave Taylor, the Grovertire, Rob Blake, Kelly Rudy.

701
00:34:19,752 --> 00:34:22,031
Speaker 5: I go on and on with our Jarry Curry, Grant Fear,

702
00:34:22,591 --> 00:34:25,671
Speaker 5: Paul Coffee, Rick Hoocket, we had we had brought in

703
00:34:25,911 --> 00:34:29,671
Speaker 5: so many characters and big people in the game that

704
00:34:29,752 --> 00:34:33,031
Speaker 5: became my teammates. So I was lucky as heck. So

705
00:34:33,111 --> 00:34:36,272
Speaker 5: those memories of the opportunity that I was given because

706
00:34:36,272 --> 00:34:41,471
Speaker 5: I was traded was those were unbelievable fun times. And

707
00:34:41,631 --> 00:34:43,551
Speaker 5: we're going to go back to ninety three because it's

708
00:34:43,551 --> 00:34:45,471
Speaker 5: coming and it's going to come into play here in

709
00:34:45,511 --> 00:34:48,632
Speaker 5: the next week or two because Montreal was the last

710
00:34:48,631 --> 00:34:50,792
Speaker 5: Canadian team to win the Stanley Cup and they were

711
00:34:50,792 --> 00:34:53,352
Speaker 5: the ones that beat us in ninety three, So those

712
00:34:53,471 --> 00:34:57,192
Speaker 5: those memories will recircle here in the next few weeks

713
00:34:57,232 --> 00:35:01,392
Speaker 5: because the Montreal fans and all of Canada and remember

714
00:35:01,511 --> 00:35:03,431
Speaker 5: that team as the last team that has won.

715
00:35:04,712 --> 00:35:07,271
Speaker 1: Certainly was Patrick Law unbelievab obviously in the nineteen ninety

716
00:35:07,312 --> 00:35:09,751
Speaker 1: three has team. But what you were unbelievable about, Tony,

717
00:35:09,832 --> 00:35:12,471
Speaker 1: was showing perseverance. In nineteen ninety six, you sustained a

718
00:35:12,511 --> 00:35:15,312
Speaker 1: major head injury, had to undergo serious brain surgery. You

719
00:35:15,431 --> 00:35:17,951
Speaker 1: signed with San Jose that summer, have an incredible comeback

720
00:35:17,991 --> 00:35:20,552
Speaker 1: season twenty five goals, one hundred and fifty nine poundy

721
00:35:20,591 --> 00:35:22,472
Speaker 1: minutes you win the Masters, And what do you remember

722
00:35:22,511 --> 00:35:25,112
Speaker 1: from that whole saga and about that comeback?

723
00:35:26,792 --> 00:35:31,591
Speaker 5: Ah boy. The injury happened at a game in Hartford,

724
00:35:32,752 --> 00:35:34,832
Speaker 5: and like a dumb hockey player, I got up from

725
00:35:34,832 --> 00:35:37,231
Speaker 5: the injury and I shaped, you know, I am fine,

726
00:35:37,232 --> 00:35:39,031
Speaker 5: I'll be fine. The trainer kept going, you all right,

727
00:35:39,071 --> 00:35:40,831
Speaker 5: you know you got hit pretty good, but yeah, I'm fine,

728
00:35:40,872 --> 00:35:44,632
Speaker 5: leave me alone. And I knew it was a little

729
00:35:44,672 --> 00:35:46,872
Speaker 5: more than just to you know, you get these year

730
00:35:46,911 --> 00:35:49,471
Speaker 5: stars and you become a little bit dazed, which happens,

731
00:35:49,551 --> 00:35:51,632
Speaker 5: you know, quite a bit when you get hit. But

732
00:35:51,832 --> 00:35:54,471
Speaker 5: then the next couple of days it didn't get better.

733
00:35:54,511 --> 00:35:57,631
Speaker 5: I played one more game and then things got really bad,

734
00:35:57,951 --> 00:35:59,591
Speaker 5: so I did. I had a bleed in my in

735
00:35:59,631 --> 00:36:06,631
Speaker 5: my temporal left temporal lobe that needed surgery, had the surgery.

736
00:36:07,471 --> 00:36:11,911
Speaker 5: When the surgery was done, I assumed I was done playing.

737
00:36:11,951 --> 00:36:14,511
Speaker 5: I didn't think the doctors would ever prove me or

738
00:36:14,551 --> 00:36:16,352
Speaker 5: give me the thumbs up to say, hey, you can

739
00:36:16,392 --> 00:36:20,271
Speaker 5: go back and play. But my doctor was convinced that

740
00:36:20,792 --> 00:36:25,672
Speaker 5: the work he did kind of took care of everything

741
00:36:25,712 --> 00:36:27,551
Speaker 5: needed to be done, and that I would heal up

742
00:36:27,551 --> 00:36:29,911
Speaker 5: and have a chance to return. So that took six

743
00:36:29,951 --> 00:36:35,672
Speaker 5: months of kind of seeing doctors, seeing specialists, training, training

744
00:36:35,712 --> 00:36:40,112
Speaker 5: hard enough to realize and think, well, maybe it's a possibility.

745
00:36:40,192 --> 00:36:44,312
Speaker 5: So I was given a second chance. The doctors cleared me.

746
00:36:44,392 --> 00:36:47,671
Speaker 5: I think it was August first. I went to Mayo

747
00:36:47,752 --> 00:36:51,951
Speaker 5: Clinic after seeing three different specialists, three different hospitals, just

748
00:36:51,991 --> 00:36:53,671
Speaker 5: to make sure that I knew what I was doing

749
00:36:53,712 --> 00:36:56,511
Speaker 5: when I was going to have to make that decision.

750
00:36:56,911 --> 00:36:59,111
Speaker 5: So I came back. I got to play five bonus years.

751
00:36:59,111 --> 00:37:01,751
Speaker 5: That's the way I looked at it. So the luxury

752
00:37:01,951 --> 00:37:05,951
Speaker 5: or the bonus that I got was, you know, you

753
00:37:06,031 --> 00:37:08,191
Speaker 5: play your first game in the NHL, and you're like, gods,

754
00:37:08,272 --> 00:37:10,312
Speaker 5: this is the greatest thing in the world. This is

755
00:37:10,352 --> 00:37:12,312
Speaker 5: so cool. And then you get through, you know, three

756
00:37:12,392 --> 00:37:14,272
Speaker 5: or four seasons, and you kind of get beat up

757
00:37:14,312 --> 00:37:15,832
Speaker 5: and you're kind of dragging a little bit, and you

758
00:37:15,872 --> 00:37:18,192
Speaker 5: forget to remind yourself how lucky you are to play

759
00:37:18,511 --> 00:37:22,392
Speaker 5: well that five straight years after I had the brain surgery.

760
00:37:22,752 --> 00:37:25,112
Speaker 5: Those were all icing on the cake type of days.

761
00:37:25,192 --> 00:37:27,031
Speaker 5: Every day I went to the rink, I played it

762
00:37:27,071 --> 00:37:30,791
Speaker 5: and thought of it as my last and first game

763
00:37:30,911 --> 00:37:33,791
Speaker 5: and so I had a different attitude about being able

764
00:37:33,832 --> 00:37:36,751
Speaker 5: to play. How fortunate I was. So that's the way

765
00:37:36,792 --> 00:37:39,792
Speaker 5: I looked at that. So I was lucky. If I

766
00:37:39,872 --> 00:37:43,511
Speaker 5: look back now, and I think I had through four

767
00:37:43,591 --> 00:37:46,711
Speaker 5: children at the time, and I say, why would I

768
00:37:46,792 --> 00:37:49,831
Speaker 5: have done that? That's a really good question. I still

769
00:37:49,911 --> 00:37:52,272
Speaker 5: questioned myself for trying to come back. I could have just,

770
00:37:52,511 --> 00:37:54,631
Speaker 5: you know, rode off and said, hey, I'm in, I'm good,

771
00:37:54,672 --> 00:37:56,232
Speaker 5: I got to play in the NHL. Let's go be

772
00:37:56,272 --> 00:37:59,231
Speaker 5: a dad. But hockey does that to you. I mean,

773
00:37:59,312 --> 00:38:01,192
Speaker 5: the love of the game and be part of a team.

774
00:38:01,631 --> 00:38:03,872
Speaker 5: It's hard to walk away. It's hard to say no.

775
00:38:04,031 --> 00:38:05,911
Speaker 5: And then when one doctor said, you know, I think

776
00:38:05,911 --> 00:38:08,071
Speaker 5: you can play, I said, we all white, maybe I

777
00:38:08,071 --> 00:38:11,431
Speaker 5: could play again. You know, that just perked up that excitement,

778
00:38:11,551 --> 00:38:14,271
Speaker 5: and and I went down that path. And obviously now

779
00:38:14,312 --> 00:38:18,431
Speaker 5: I'm very grateful that I did. And uh, but but

780
00:38:18,631 --> 00:38:21,672
Speaker 5: it was it was, you know, the six months of

781
00:38:21,872 --> 00:38:24,031
Speaker 5: every night going to bed going gosh, do I do

782
00:38:24,111 --> 00:38:26,271
Speaker 5: this or do I not do this type of thing?

783
00:38:26,312 --> 00:38:30,031
Speaker 5: But everything worked out. Knock on wood, I Uh, I

784
00:38:30,031 --> 00:38:32,151
Speaker 5: don't think I did any more damage to my head

785
00:38:32,312 --> 00:38:33,591
Speaker 5: in those five years.

786
00:38:33,631 --> 00:38:35,872
Speaker 2: Still sharp as a whip, sharp.

787
00:38:35,631 --> 00:38:36,232
Speaker 1: As a whip.

788
00:38:36,591 --> 00:38:39,352
Speaker 5: Thanks, I think of myself sharp as a whip.

789
00:38:39,872 --> 00:38:42,832
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, like you know that that's such a

790
00:38:42,872 --> 00:38:45,151
Speaker 3: great story. I think because it's so hard to make

791
00:38:45,192 --> 00:38:48,512
Speaker 3: the NHL, but it's so incredibly tough and even tougher

792
00:38:48,551 --> 00:38:51,111
Speaker 3: to stay in the NHL, or once you kind of

793
00:38:51,152 --> 00:38:53,872
Speaker 3: take a step back come back in. I'd back surgery

794
00:38:53,911 --> 00:38:56,472
Speaker 3: and thought I wasn't going to be able to skate again,

795
00:38:56,551 --> 00:38:59,911
Speaker 3: and similar to you, the doctors had surgery and it

796
00:38:59,991 --> 00:39:02,431
Speaker 3: was like after that, your eyes are a little bit

797
00:39:02,471 --> 00:39:04,791
Speaker 3: open because the grind of the game doesn't seem so bad.

798
00:39:04,872 --> 00:39:07,071
Speaker 3: So you know, that's amazing, and then you end up

799
00:39:07,071 --> 00:39:10,711
Speaker 3: in San Jose. But talk a little bit about San Jose.

800
00:39:10,792 --> 00:39:12,471
Speaker 3: I mean the cast of characters you had there. You're

801
00:39:12,471 --> 00:39:15,511
Speaker 3: at the cow Palace, Brandy Han, Drew Mnde on the mic,

802
00:39:16,352 --> 00:39:20,111
Speaker 3: you had, you had Owen Nolan, you know, Mika kippersof Nabakov.

803
00:39:20,232 --> 00:39:23,071
Speaker 3: You had Patrick Marlow in his first year. You know,

804
00:39:23,192 --> 00:39:26,392
Speaker 3: Mike reached Like what if Darryl Sutter is your head coach? Like,

805
00:39:26,471 --> 00:39:29,471
Speaker 3: talk about those memories because you say how how you

806
00:39:29,551 --> 00:39:31,831
Speaker 3: enjoyed it so much, but you were you know, being

807
00:39:31,872 --> 00:39:34,392
Speaker 3: at the start of a franchise, and you guys, the

808
00:39:34,471 --> 00:39:37,471
Speaker 3: rink was in San Francisco and at the Cow Palace, Like,

809
00:39:38,152 --> 00:39:39,872
Speaker 3: how amazing were those memories for you?

810
00:39:39,911 --> 00:39:40,671
Speaker 2: Playing in San Jose?

811
00:39:41,471 --> 00:39:44,511
Speaker 5: It was great, great fans. The one bonus thing I

812
00:39:44,551 --> 00:39:49,352
Speaker 5: got too, I was college teammates with Gary Shooter. We

813
00:39:49,392 --> 00:39:52,511
Speaker 5: both came in together at the University of Wisconsin in

814
00:39:52,591 --> 00:39:55,071
Speaker 5: nineteen eighty three, and Suits and I were buddies. We

815
00:39:55,111 --> 00:39:59,311
Speaker 5: played on a few US teams along the way, but

816
00:39:59,312 --> 00:40:02,751
Speaker 5: but we got reconnected in San Jose and he became

817
00:40:02,832 --> 00:40:05,951
Speaker 5: roommates my last four years of San Jose. So to

818
00:40:06,392 --> 00:40:09,511
Speaker 5: reconnect with one of your old buddies and go through

819
00:40:09,551 --> 00:40:11,911
Speaker 5: the you know, your last few years together was really

820
00:40:11,911 --> 00:40:14,271
Speaker 5: cool for me because you know, he's one of those

821
00:40:14,392 --> 00:40:17,911
Speaker 5: players that you play with and you respect so much

822
00:40:17,951 --> 00:40:20,511
Speaker 5: as a teammate, and you wonder why, you know, I

823
00:40:20,551 --> 00:40:22,031
Speaker 5: still wonder why he's not in the Hall of Fame.

824
00:40:22,071 --> 00:40:23,511
Speaker 5: I gotta be honest with you. I thought he was

825
00:40:24,152 --> 00:40:27,471
Speaker 5: as a player, one of those players that just made

826
00:40:27,471 --> 00:40:31,831
Speaker 5: everybody better, just quietly came into the room, quietly did

827
00:40:31,832 --> 00:40:36,272
Speaker 5: his thing, quietly produced and was a warrior. It was

828
00:40:36,312 --> 00:40:39,511
Speaker 5: an absolute warrior and so just to reconnect with him

829
00:40:39,511 --> 00:40:41,471
Speaker 5: for those last four years mental out. You mentioned Patty

830
00:40:41,511 --> 00:40:44,551
Speaker 5: Marlowe and Marco Stern. With some young guys coming in

831
00:40:44,591 --> 00:40:47,471
Speaker 5: as an older player, there's the difference. When I got

832
00:40:47,511 --> 00:40:51,552
Speaker 5: to San Jose, I became somewhat of an older player,

833
00:40:51,551 --> 00:40:53,071
Speaker 5: and was I going to be the guy that was

834
00:40:53,111 --> 00:40:54,792
Speaker 5: going to be oh, man, these guys are taking my

835
00:40:54,951 --> 00:40:57,071
Speaker 5: job type of mentality, or was I going to be

836
00:40:57,071 --> 00:40:58,911
Speaker 5: come on, guys, I'm going to help you along the way.

837
00:40:59,272 --> 00:41:01,271
Speaker 5: Because a lot of guys helped me along the way

838
00:41:01,312 --> 00:41:03,712
Speaker 5: when I was a young player, and that's what I

839
00:41:03,792 --> 00:41:07,911
Speaker 5: learned about. When you find those great teammates and those

840
00:41:07,911 --> 00:41:11,671
Speaker 5: great veteran players, you know, they can either turn on

841
00:41:11,752 --> 00:41:14,191
Speaker 5: you and make you feel like, oh my gosh, this

842
00:41:14,312 --> 00:41:17,911
Speaker 5: isn't much fun, or they can say an embrace. Chris Nyland,

843
00:41:18,431 --> 00:41:21,991
Speaker 5: Kelly Kissy, O'Brien, mullins, some guys Ron Greschner when I

844
00:41:22,071 --> 00:41:25,392
Speaker 5: was in New York did that for me, John Van Biezick.

845
00:41:25,431 --> 00:41:27,911
Speaker 5: They made me feel special as a young player, and

846
00:41:27,951 --> 00:41:29,951
Speaker 5: I thought that it was my time now to help

847
00:41:30,071 --> 00:41:32,791
Speaker 5: the younger guys in San Jose. So I watched those

848
00:41:32,832 --> 00:41:35,191
Speaker 5: guys take my job, and I and I patted them

849
00:41:35,192 --> 00:41:36,951
Speaker 5: on the back saying, you guys deserve it. You know,

850
00:41:36,991 --> 00:41:39,272
Speaker 5: I'll keep pushing you and I'll keep staying ready to

851
00:41:39,752 --> 00:41:42,272
Speaker 5: help it any way I can. But man, this is fun.

852
00:41:42,312 --> 00:41:44,792
Speaker 5: And you watch Marlowe accomplish, you know, and break Gordy

853
00:41:44,832 --> 00:41:47,671
Speaker 5: House record, you know, then you're cheering for him and

854
00:41:47,672 --> 00:41:50,031
Speaker 5: you're giving them how you had him JD. So you

855
00:41:50,071 --> 00:41:53,711
Speaker 5: know what he is about. And so so you got

856
00:41:53,752 --> 00:41:58,272
Speaker 5: to adjust as an older player to recognize you're you know,

857
00:41:58,352 --> 00:42:00,631
Speaker 5: the younger guys that are coming in that are that

858
00:42:00,792 --> 00:42:03,431
Speaker 5: have the energy, that have more skill. It's just the

859
00:42:03,471 --> 00:42:06,511
Speaker 5: way it evolved. The younger kids are more skilled and

860
00:42:06,631 --> 00:42:10,071
Speaker 5: talented as you move along, and you got to accept that,

861
00:42:10,152 --> 00:42:11,631
Speaker 5: and you've got to find a new role, and you've

862
00:42:11,631 --> 00:42:13,832
Speaker 5: got to understand that some of the things that you

863
00:42:14,031 --> 00:42:15,551
Speaker 5: like to do as part of a team are going

864
00:42:15,591 --> 00:42:17,551
Speaker 5: to be taken away and given to others. And if

865
00:42:17,591 --> 00:42:19,312
Speaker 5: you can do that, you can survive. And I think

866
00:42:19,352 --> 00:42:21,192
Speaker 5: that was an important thing that some of the older

867
00:42:21,192 --> 00:42:23,752
Speaker 5: players taught me when I was young.

868
00:42:24,991 --> 00:42:28,551
Speaker 4: On that San Jose team, Tony, your roommate was head

869
00:42:28,551 --> 00:42:35,392
Speaker 4: coach Marco Sturm from the Boston Bruins, right, So I mean, yeah,

870
00:42:35,551 --> 00:42:38,472
Speaker 4: was there was there some sex success from that season.

871
00:42:38,951 --> 00:42:41,471
Speaker 2: There's a lot of a lot of sex.

872
00:42:41,872 --> 00:42:42,751
Speaker 5: That's what we edited here.

873
00:42:43,152 --> 00:42:46,712
Speaker 2: That's sure we edit here.

874
00:42:44,631 --> 00:42:49,392
Speaker 4: Was from having Marco Sturm as your roommate.

875
00:42:49,551 --> 00:42:51,392
Speaker 5: That's a great one. This is what you got to

876
00:42:51,431 --> 00:42:54,551
Speaker 5: ask him, because he gives me me crap about this still.

877
00:42:54,991 --> 00:42:57,272
Speaker 5: He said, when we were first rooming together playing an

878
00:42:57,272 --> 00:42:59,472
Speaker 5: exhibition game, I think we were down in San Diego

879
00:42:59,551 --> 00:43:02,872
Speaker 5: playing one of those off site games. And he says,

880
00:43:02,272 --> 00:43:04,991
Speaker 5: he's waking up from his nap. He looks over and

881
00:43:05,031 --> 00:43:07,151
Speaker 5: I'm stretching. I'm up standing up in the corner of

882
00:43:07,192 --> 00:43:09,631
Speaker 5: my leg, behind my back, pulling, stretching, doing all these

883
00:43:09,672 --> 00:43:13,191
Speaker 5: little things. And and he uh, he says that's his

884
00:43:13,232 --> 00:43:16,191
Speaker 5: first memory of me of as we were getting uh,

885
00:43:16,431 --> 00:43:18,071
Speaker 5: you know, supposed to be getting our nap and I'm

886
00:43:18,272 --> 00:43:20,111
Speaker 5: I'm in the corner of the room stretching. That's what

887
00:43:20,152 --> 00:43:24,312
Speaker 5: he remembers of. But what a great year Marco Sturm

888
00:43:24,312 --> 00:43:27,751
Speaker 5: had in Boston. Uh, it's I'm not surprised by that.

889
00:43:27,832 --> 00:43:30,791
Speaker 5: He almost won a gold medal out of nowhere. Back

890
00:43:30,832 --> 00:43:34,352
Speaker 5: in the Olympics when he coached Germany. And I don't

891
00:43:34,392 --> 00:43:36,792
Speaker 5: know what Russia was called at that time. What was

892
00:43:36,792 --> 00:43:38,232
Speaker 5: the name of it. What did they name him in

893
00:43:38,272 --> 00:43:40,431
Speaker 5: the Olympic year when they were had that violation, oh

894
00:43:40,511 --> 00:43:42,991
Speaker 5: something whatever they called.

895
00:43:42,712 --> 00:43:45,951
Speaker 4: The Olympic Athletes of or something like that.

896
00:43:46,352 --> 00:43:49,431
Speaker 5: Yeah, But anyhow, he he almost pulled the upset of

897
00:43:49,471 --> 00:43:51,151
Speaker 5: all upsets. It would have been as big as the

898
00:43:51,272 --> 00:43:54,712
Speaker 5: nineteen eighty US upset. He was just a minute away

899
00:43:54,712 --> 00:43:57,511
Speaker 5: from from beating beating him and winning the gold medal.

900
00:43:57,591 --> 00:44:00,551
Speaker 5: So he's a heck of a person and teammate, which

901
00:44:00,591 --> 00:44:03,471
Speaker 5: you know, uh And and as a coach, he certainly

902
00:44:03,511 --> 00:44:05,752
Speaker 5: backed up what what he's capable of doing as a

903
00:44:05,792 --> 00:44:06,272
Speaker 5: head coach.

904
00:44:07,352 --> 00:44:09,272
Speaker 1: Any chance to ask a question about Chris Kelley is

905
00:44:09,272 --> 00:44:12,551
Speaker 1: I'm going to take it. Yeah, I'm unbelievable player. I

906
00:44:12,591 --> 00:44:16,592
Speaker 1: think the greatest defenseman in US hockey history. Legendary fitness

907
00:44:16,591 --> 00:44:18,551
Speaker 1: regime could go out till two am. He's back in

908
00:44:18,591 --> 00:44:20,671
Speaker 1: the morning on the bike getting in the sauna. You're

909
00:44:20,672 --> 00:44:23,152
Speaker 1: an assistant with an Tony and Detroit. What was Chillie

910
00:44:23,272 --> 00:44:23,911
Speaker 1: like as a coach?

911
00:44:25,511 --> 00:44:28,431
Speaker 5: Unbelievable from the standpoint, I never thought of him as

912
00:44:28,471 --> 00:44:32,631
Speaker 5: a coach, but to work with the young players his

913
00:44:32,832 --> 00:44:35,991
Speaker 5: first of all, his love for the game goes to

914
00:44:36,031 --> 00:44:39,192
Speaker 5: that next level. You know, we talk about Sydney Crosby

915
00:44:39,192 --> 00:44:41,872
Speaker 5: now jumping over and you know, season ends and he

916
00:44:41,911 --> 00:44:44,471
Speaker 5: tells the trainers, hey, pack my bag, I might go

917
00:44:44,591 --> 00:44:46,951
Speaker 5: play for a team Canada. And they're like, you just

918
00:44:46,991 --> 00:44:48,911
Speaker 5: played in the Olympics. You were hurt this year we

919
00:44:48,911 --> 00:44:50,631
Speaker 5: made the playoffs. Why would you want to do that?

920
00:44:50,872 --> 00:44:53,392
Speaker 5: And Sid's probably answer was because I got a chance

921
00:44:53,392 --> 00:44:56,672
Speaker 5: to go play hockey again. That was Chris Chellios. If

922
00:44:56,712 --> 00:44:58,671
Speaker 5: there was a rink and there was ice available and

923
00:44:58,712 --> 00:45:01,031
Speaker 5: he had his skates in his trunk, which he did carry,

924
00:45:01,312 --> 00:45:03,311
Speaker 5: he would pop in and just jump on the ice.

925
00:45:03,312 --> 00:45:05,951
Speaker 5: That's how much he loved love the game. So I'm

926
00:45:06,031 --> 00:45:08,951
Speaker 5: fortunate enough now Chris is still around. I work with

927
00:45:08,991 --> 00:45:11,471
Speaker 5: his daughter on the black Hawk broadcast and Kaylee one

928
00:45:11,471 --> 00:45:16,031
Speaker 5: of the greatest teams as a partner and to do

929
00:45:16,111 --> 00:45:18,871
Speaker 5: games with, and so I see Chris a lot still.

930
00:45:18,911 --> 00:45:21,511
Speaker 5: We coached together on the Olympic team in two thousand

931
00:45:21,551 --> 00:45:26,911
Speaker 5: and eighteen. We were on the same staff there. He just,

932
00:45:27,872 --> 00:45:32,191
Speaker 5: you know, his love for the game spills over where

933
00:45:32,232 --> 00:45:35,151
Speaker 5: people see him and they kind of just perk up

934
00:45:35,712 --> 00:45:38,711
Speaker 5: and his ability to help young defensemen and teach him

935
00:45:38,712 --> 00:45:42,352
Speaker 5: a few things. It's mostly about competitiveness and that, you know,

936
00:45:42,431 --> 00:45:45,151
Speaker 5: that mentality of yet of what you have to have

937
00:45:45,991 --> 00:45:49,671
Speaker 5: to compete and perform at that high level as I

938
00:45:49,712 --> 00:45:53,551
Speaker 5: think the biggest asset of what he was able to

939
00:45:53,551 --> 00:45:59,631
Speaker 5: share with the younger players. And yeah, and Chris, if

940
00:45:59,672 --> 00:46:02,911
Speaker 5: you need anything from Chris, and you guys are buddies,

941
00:46:03,111 --> 00:46:05,831
Speaker 5: He'll go through the wall for you. That's just one

942
00:46:05,832 --> 00:46:09,432
Speaker 5: of those. He's Greek, I'm Italian. Somehow we get along

943
00:46:09,471 --> 00:46:12,312
Speaker 5: really well. So must be there must be a connection

944
00:46:12,392 --> 00:46:13,832
Speaker 5: between the Greeks and the Italians.

945
00:46:14,431 --> 00:46:16,711
Speaker 2: It's that it's that good eating. That's what it is.

946
00:46:16,752 --> 00:46:17,752
Speaker 2: It's all that good food.

947
00:46:17,832 --> 00:46:20,471
Speaker 3: But you know, you mentioned the Blackhawks, and I love

948
00:46:20,551 --> 00:46:23,031
Speaker 3: staying up late on the East Coast watching you do

949
00:46:23,111 --> 00:46:26,872
Speaker 3: some analysis after games, and you know they had a

950
00:46:27,111 --> 00:46:31,751
Speaker 3: kind of an interesting season, but you know they were competitive,

951
00:46:31,792 --> 00:46:34,191
Speaker 3: but then you saw the holes kind of creep in.

952
00:46:34,272 --> 00:46:36,112
Speaker 3: What do you think kind of their offseason plan?

953
00:46:36,232 --> 00:46:37,832
Speaker 2: Is big? Big offseason for them?

954
00:46:37,832 --> 00:46:42,512
Speaker 5: I think yeah, it's really a big I mean they're

955
00:46:42,511 --> 00:46:46,312
Speaker 5: picking Forth again, which is nice. Could Stenburg fallow the

956
00:46:46,352 --> 00:46:48,751
Speaker 5: fourth and that be the perfect match for fron Del

957
00:46:48,832 --> 00:46:51,191
Speaker 5: Frondel is going to be a superstar. You know, we

958
00:46:51,232 --> 00:46:53,312
Speaker 5: all know about Connor Bdard and what he can do

959
00:46:53,951 --> 00:46:57,112
Speaker 5: that Anton Frondell only played I think nine or ten games,

960
00:46:57,192 --> 00:47:00,112
Speaker 5: but when he came over after his good he's in Sweden,

961
00:47:00,152 --> 00:47:03,911
Speaker 5: He's a heck of a player, so offensively, now Connor

962
00:47:03,951 --> 00:47:07,511
Speaker 5: will have some help, which is important. But I think

963
00:47:07,551 --> 00:47:09,752
Speaker 5: with all these assets and all these picks that Kyle

964
00:47:09,832 --> 00:47:13,712
Speaker 5: has stocked and brought in, uh, he's got an opportunity

965
00:47:13,832 --> 00:47:16,792
Speaker 5: to make a big deal and acquire somebody else that

966
00:47:16,832 --> 00:47:20,232
Speaker 5: can have an immediate impact. Like it would be fine

967
00:47:20,712 --> 00:47:22,991
Speaker 5: to wait, you know, two or three more years and

968
00:47:23,071 --> 00:47:27,351
Speaker 5: let these younger players keep developing. They'll probably mature into

969
00:47:27,352 --> 00:47:30,951
Speaker 5: a team that can can compete, you know, to not

970
00:47:31,111 --> 00:47:33,631
Speaker 5: just make the playoffs, but be a team that can

971
00:47:33,672 --> 00:47:35,951
Speaker 5: push in a few years. But I think there is

972
00:47:35,991 --> 00:47:40,232
Speaker 5: a way to kind of accelerate that plan with the couple.

973
00:47:40,951 --> 00:47:42,671
Speaker 5: You know, it's going to be big moves. It's going

974
00:47:42,752 --> 00:47:45,551
Speaker 5: to have to take two or three players or prospects

975
00:47:45,911 --> 00:47:48,791
Speaker 5: in the organization that that can pan out to be good.

976
00:47:48,991 --> 00:47:51,191
Speaker 5: But I think there's an immediate return if you if

977
00:47:51,232 --> 00:47:54,392
Speaker 5: your there's players available. We all know, there's the names

978
00:47:54,431 --> 00:47:56,631
Speaker 5: that have been you know that are kind of out there.

979
00:47:56,712 --> 00:47:59,511
Speaker 5: Still do you wait and say, maybe we wait and

980
00:47:59,551 --> 00:48:02,392
Speaker 5: see if Connor McDavid is going to be available in

981
00:48:02,431 --> 00:48:08,631
Speaker 5: a year or so. Let start, well, I mean, if

982
00:48:08,672 --> 00:48:10,951
Speaker 5: you look at it and the way things are going

983
00:48:11,312 --> 00:48:14,111
Speaker 5: right now, it's tilting towards you know, he might not

984
00:48:14,152 --> 00:48:17,191
Speaker 5: be an oiler forever. And and then you got you know,

985
00:48:17,272 --> 00:48:20,471
Speaker 5: Austin Matthews in Toronto, you got you already heard the

986
00:48:20,551 --> 00:48:23,352
Speaker 5: Knis rumors. You got Brady Kachuck in Ottawa. And there's

987
00:48:23,392 --> 00:48:25,792
Speaker 5: a few other guys that are on that one that

988
00:48:25,951 --> 00:48:29,031
Speaker 5: might be a deal that could be had earlier. Do

989
00:48:29,111 --> 00:48:31,872
Speaker 5: you try that? And so I think there's gonna be

990
00:48:31,911 --> 00:48:34,712
Speaker 5: options for Kyle. There's gonna be options for him, probably

991
00:48:34,752 --> 00:48:38,192
Speaker 5: on that fourth pick overall, because there's some really good

992
00:48:38,232 --> 00:48:42,111
Speaker 5: defensemen that of Stenberg and mckennagal, you know one two

993
00:48:42,272 --> 00:48:46,231
Speaker 5: is you know maybe will happen. So so there is

994
00:48:46,551 --> 00:48:50,272
Speaker 5: some options to help the Blackhawks. But go back to that,

995
00:48:50,312 --> 00:48:52,352
Speaker 5: think Jeff Blashel did a really good job last year,

996
00:48:52,911 --> 00:48:56,192
Speaker 5: but I think that ultimately they got to get some

997
00:48:56,192 --> 00:49:00,031
Speaker 5: some some some more. I don't know how you want

998
00:49:00,071 --> 00:49:06,312
Speaker 5: mis grit anger. Yeah, they gotta. They gotta become a

999
00:49:06,352 --> 00:49:08,791
Speaker 5: meaner team to to in their in their young kids.

1000
00:49:08,792 --> 00:49:10,431
Speaker 5: And can they grow into that. There's a couple of

1001
00:49:10,511 --> 00:49:13,111
Speaker 5: kids that probably could, but I think they need some more,

1002
00:49:13,792 --> 00:49:16,512
Speaker 5: uh physicality.

1003
00:49:16,551 --> 00:49:16,911
Speaker 2: How's that.

1004
00:49:16,951 --> 00:49:19,711
Speaker 5: I'll be nice, I'll use the word physicality.

1005
00:49:19,911 --> 00:49:22,311
Speaker 2: I'll say it. Some balls get in there.

1006
00:49:22,631 --> 00:49:28,511
Speaker 5: You coach in there for sure?

1007
00:49:28,792 --> 00:49:31,511
Speaker 4: Yeah, there you go. Yeah, there you go. Not now,

1008
00:49:31,551 --> 00:49:38,071
Speaker 4: but there you You coached Cole Kaffield at university at

1009
00:49:38,111 --> 00:49:40,951
Speaker 4: the University of Wisconsin when he won the Hobie Baker

1010
00:49:41,031 --> 00:49:43,872
Speaker 4: Did you did you foresee him scoring fifty in the

1011
00:49:43,951 --> 00:49:46,232
Speaker 4: NHL Tony Did you think that this was going to happen?

1012
00:49:47,792 --> 00:49:50,232
Speaker 5: I did, And I don't mean to say, like I know,

1013
00:49:50,551 --> 00:49:53,151
Speaker 5: I'm not going to say I told you so. But

1014
00:49:54,511 --> 00:49:56,911
Speaker 5: I watched him. I learned from him.

1015
00:49:57,431 --> 00:49:57,872
Speaker 2: Uh.

1016
00:49:57,911 --> 00:50:00,911
Speaker 5: He was one of those players and I kept This

1017
00:50:00,951 --> 00:50:03,071
Speaker 5: is how I this is how I knew. I would

1018
00:50:03,111 --> 00:50:05,432
Speaker 5: ask the goaltenders, I go, can you guys please stop

1019
00:50:05,511 --> 00:50:07,551
Speaker 5: Cole one of these times so he stops dancing around

1020
00:50:07,591 --> 00:50:09,911
Speaker 5: the rink and celebrating after every time he shoots on

1021
00:50:09,951 --> 00:50:12,752
Speaker 5: you guys, you know, in practice and he goes, we can't.

1022
00:50:13,031 --> 00:50:14,832
Speaker 5: We had no idea where the puck's coming when it

1023
00:50:14,832 --> 00:50:17,951
Speaker 5: comes off of stick, And so I started to watch

1024
00:50:17,991 --> 00:50:20,792
Speaker 5: the goalies, you know, try to play as he was shooting,

1025
00:50:20,792 --> 00:50:24,551
Speaker 5: and he was so deceptive on where the puck came

1026
00:50:24,591 --> 00:50:27,111
Speaker 5: off as blade that normally, if it came off the toe,

1027
00:50:27,551 --> 00:50:29,591
Speaker 5: the goaltender knows all he's going. You know, I can

1028
00:50:29,631 --> 00:50:31,711
Speaker 5: seet a little bit, you know, high glove, because that's

1029
00:50:31,712 --> 00:50:33,431
Speaker 5: where it's got to go when it comes off a

1030
00:50:33,431 --> 00:50:35,991
Speaker 5: player stick like that. Cole could deceive that and it

1031
00:50:36,031 --> 00:50:38,352
Speaker 5: could go low blocker when it looked like for sure

1032
00:50:38,392 --> 00:50:42,232
Speaker 5: it was going high glove. So that little ability to

1033
00:50:42,272 --> 00:50:45,471
Speaker 5: be able to disguise his shot coming off as blade,

1034
00:50:45,511 --> 00:50:48,272
Speaker 5: for me, showed me something that others than that. The

1035
00:50:48,312 --> 00:50:51,151
Speaker 5: best shooter that I ever played with, I thought was

1036
00:50:51,272 --> 00:50:54,151
Speaker 5: Joe Sakik, And I'd played with Bret haall different type

1037
00:50:54,152 --> 00:50:56,911
Speaker 5: of shot. I'd played with some other great great Luke Roboti,

1038
00:50:57,071 --> 00:51:00,271
Speaker 5: great great goal scores. But you know, Joe sakak had

1039
00:51:00,272 --> 00:51:03,151
Speaker 5: that little pole drag and he'd always shoot to the

1040
00:51:03,152 --> 00:51:06,551
Speaker 5: place where the goaltender had the most difficult chance of

1041
00:51:06,951 --> 00:51:09,831
Speaker 5: getting his pad or blocker over there. And Cole has

1042
00:51:09,872 --> 00:51:13,911
Speaker 5: that same instinct of knowing where do I shoot that

1043
00:51:13,951 --> 00:51:16,071
Speaker 5: it's going to be really hard for the goaltender to

1044
00:51:16,071 --> 00:51:18,352
Speaker 5: make that safe. So I knew he'd be productive. I

1045
00:51:18,392 --> 00:51:22,031
Speaker 5: knew how competitive he was. You know, I got to

1046
00:51:22,031 --> 00:51:24,392
Speaker 5: watch him lead to big ten and scoring his first year.

1047
00:51:24,431 --> 00:51:26,352
Speaker 5: I got to see him make that next step his

1048
00:51:26,392 --> 00:51:30,672
Speaker 5: next year when he won the Hoby Baker. I watched,

1049
00:51:30,991 --> 00:51:32,951
Speaker 5: you know, all the little things he did day after

1050
00:51:33,031 --> 00:51:35,671
Speaker 5: day after day after day to become a better and

1051
00:51:35,752 --> 00:51:39,872
Speaker 5: more complete player, but also even work on the shooting

1052
00:51:40,031 --> 00:51:44,231
Speaker 5: and the goal scoring to a different level than I've

1053
00:51:44,272 --> 00:51:47,911
Speaker 5: ever seen. So yes, I am happy for him. He's

1054
00:51:47,991 --> 00:51:50,392
Speaker 5: earned it because of the work he's put in. And

1055
00:51:50,431 --> 00:51:53,671
Speaker 5: you talk about a smiley kid that affects everybody in

1056
00:51:53,712 --> 00:51:56,032
Speaker 5: the locker room, everybody in the city for that matter,

1057
00:51:56,232 --> 00:51:58,591
Speaker 5: every hockey fan you turned on the TV. What are

1058
00:51:58,591 --> 00:52:00,272
Speaker 5: you going to see when you see Cole Coffield. A

1059
00:52:00,272 --> 00:52:03,151
Speaker 5: big smile on his face and someone that's enjoying what

1060
00:52:03,232 --> 00:52:06,351
Speaker 5: he's doing. And that's what hockey's all about, and that's

1061
00:52:06,392 --> 00:52:09,471
Speaker 5: what what he's been able to bring to that franchise

1062
00:52:09,511 --> 00:52:10,352
Speaker 5: into our league.

1063
00:52:11,232 --> 00:52:12,991
Speaker 1: A big smile on his face and joying what he's

1064
00:52:12,991 --> 00:52:15,791
Speaker 1: doing also could be fitting to describe it Tony, Tony,

1065
00:52:15,832 --> 00:52:17,911
Speaker 1: this is phenomenal stuff. Again, look forward to seeing you

1066
00:52:17,951 --> 00:52:21,191
Speaker 1: on NHL Network, Angel Work Radio. We've had don He

1067
00:52:21,272 --> 00:52:22,991
Speaker 1: was very with his answers.

1068
00:52:24,232 --> 00:52:27,392
Speaker 5: Would be a very very different type of interview, very detailed.

1069
00:52:27,511 --> 00:52:34,111
Speaker 5: He held him when I'm coaching, Hey, Donnie, what do.

1070
00:52:34,071 --> 00:52:34,511
Speaker 2: I do here?

1071
00:52:34,911 --> 00:52:36,272
Speaker 5: I need to run a practice? You have me to

1072
00:52:36,272 --> 00:52:37,991
Speaker 5: get up a practice? Can you do something to help?

1073
00:52:38,951 --> 00:52:40,911
Speaker 1: He's gonna let you know he's not gonna get cheated either,

1074
00:52:40,991 --> 00:52:42,711
Speaker 1: and we'll get came on at some point, so well,

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00:52:42,712 --> 00:52:43,471
Speaker 1: of course came to him.

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00:52:43,511 --> 00:52:46,031
Speaker 5: Yeah. Man, that's a much better interview than both Donnie, and.

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00:52:48,272 --> 00:52:51,551
Speaker 1: We'll get that third gard three. Great stuff, Tonys, Thanks

1078
00:52:51,551 --> 00:53:01,672
Speaker 1: you guys, Thanks once again to Tony Gronando. He was terrific.

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00:53:01,672 --> 00:53:03,751
Speaker 1: Speaking of terrific, make sure you check out this new

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00:53:03,752 --> 00:53:06,832
Speaker 1: documentary on Netflix. It's called Marty Life is short documentary

1081
00:53:06,832 --> 00:53:10,272
Speaker 1: about Martin Short, who's had a remarkable career. Proud Canadian

1082
00:53:10,312 --> 00:53:13,671
Speaker 1: first and foremost Hamilton guy. You know, was obviously made

1083
00:53:13,712 --> 00:53:17,471
Speaker 1: his bones in Toronto with SCTV, John Candy, Catherine O'Hara,

1084
00:53:17,792 --> 00:53:20,071
Speaker 1: all those great comedians of that era. He's a guy

1085
00:53:20,152 --> 00:53:22,151
Speaker 1: who's had a remarkable career in show business because he

1086
00:53:22,192 --> 00:53:23,671
Speaker 1: never really had a major hit. If you look at

1087
00:53:23,712 --> 00:53:25,272
Speaker 1: his movies. I said to you Martin short you go

1088
00:53:25,511 --> 00:53:27,191
Speaker 1: he was great father of the Bride. I'm like, yeah,

1089
00:53:27,232 --> 00:53:29,151
Speaker 1: supporting role stole the movie. It was not the star.

1090
00:53:29,431 --> 00:53:31,872
Speaker 1: Most of his starring vehicles didn't work. Three Amigos did

1091
00:53:31,911 --> 00:53:34,152
Speaker 1: not work. Him and Chevy Chase, Steve mart notable flop.

1092
00:53:34,352 --> 00:53:36,192
Speaker 1: You know where time people have enjoyed it. But he

1093
00:53:36,272 --> 00:53:38,712
Speaker 1: said a late career resurgence. Only Murders in the Building

1094
00:53:38,752 --> 00:53:40,791
Speaker 1: is a genuine hit. With his good friend Steve Martin

1095
00:53:40,832 --> 00:53:42,631
Speaker 1: still touring together. Those guys do it all the time,

1096
00:53:42,792 --> 00:53:45,151
Speaker 1: and of course his best friend Eugene Levy. Those guys

1097
00:53:45,192 --> 00:53:48,032
Speaker 1: stay in touch. Very good revealing documentary just about his life.

1098
00:53:48,111 --> 00:53:50,151
Speaker 1: And at one point when talking to John mulaney, whom

1099
00:53:50,152 --> 00:53:52,111
Speaker 1: Millanny is telling you how much they loves Three Amigos

1100
00:53:52,152 --> 00:53:54,031
Speaker 1: and Martin, swort'z again, but we lost a golden child

1101
00:53:54,031 --> 00:53:55,431
Speaker 1: that weekend, Like it wasn't a hit. He's a well,

1102
00:53:55,551 --> 00:53:57,352
Speaker 1: it's a great film. So they worked together on a

1103
00:53:57,392 --> 00:53:59,671
Speaker 1: Milaniy's sitcom and it didn't work out. Martin Short said

1104
00:53:59,672 --> 00:54:01,951
Speaker 1: to him, this is show business, John, because the reviews

1105
00:54:01,991 --> 00:54:04,192
Speaker 1: were terrible and the ratings were awfully. It was ninety

1106
00:54:04,672 --> 00:54:06,312
Speaker 1: the time. It doesn't work, this is it. We just

1107
00:54:06,352 --> 00:54:08,991
Speaker 1: move on to the next thing, and it's amazing. Tom

1108
00:54:09,031 --> 00:54:11,272
Speaker 1: Hanks talking about Martin Short, he goes, that guy is

1109
00:54:11,352 --> 00:54:13,191
Speaker 1: pure joy like it doesn't matter what it is in life.

1110
00:54:13,272 --> 00:54:16,352
Speaker 1: Martin Short has the right approach. He's positive mind, overcome

1111
00:54:16,551 --> 00:54:20,152
Speaker 1: considerable tragedy. At twelve lost his eldest brother, and eighteen

1112
00:54:20,232 --> 00:54:22,591
Speaker 1: lost his mom. At twenty lost his dad, and he

1113
00:54:22,631 --> 00:54:24,512
Speaker 1: has said lost has been a big part of his life,

1114
00:54:24,511 --> 00:54:26,951
Speaker 1: but he's just learned to adapt with it. His beloved

1115
00:54:26,951 --> 00:54:29,432
Speaker 1: wife who they show great videos of cam Corner videos

1116
00:54:29,471 --> 00:54:31,511
Speaker 1: and Tom Hanks speaks about her and Steven Spielberg and

1117
00:54:31,951 --> 00:54:34,511
Speaker 1: wonderful presence. She died ten years ago from cancer. So

1118
00:54:34,712 --> 00:54:36,631
Speaker 1: this is a guy who's not only very funny, but

1119
00:54:36,712 --> 00:54:38,632
Speaker 1: he's overcome a lot of tragedy, a lot of trauma

1120
00:54:38,631 --> 00:54:40,991
Speaker 1: and orders to really inspire generations. And Tally, I know

1121
00:54:41,031 --> 00:54:43,471
Speaker 1: you've seen it. My favorite part of it. Colin O'Brian

1122
00:54:43,511 --> 00:54:45,751
Speaker 1: asked him about that year he worked INESNL. Martin Shore

1123
00:54:45,832 --> 00:54:47,671
Speaker 1: was not a fan of ESNL, just didn't like the

1124
00:54:47,712 --> 00:54:49,031
Speaker 1: grind of it, the work of it, but he did

1125
00:54:49,031 --> 00:54:50,471
Speaker 1: it for one year. He asked tick everesl the leave.

1126
00:54:50,511 --> 00:54:51,872
Speaker 1: He goes, just get me through one year, He's okay.

1127
00:54:52,111 --> 00:54:55,272
Speaker 1: His best character is Nathan Thurm, who was this incredibly

1128
00:54:55,312 --> 00:54:57,591
Speaker 1: defensive character, and Conor goes, where'd you come up with

1129
00:54:57,591 --> 00:54:59,471
Speaker 1: the character? Like everything? He's like, I know that. Don't

1130
00:54:59,471 --> 00:55:00,991
Speaker 1: you think I don't know that? And he goes there

1131
00:55:00,991 --> 00:55:02,431
Speaker 1: and I love stories like this. He goes, there was

1132
00:55:02,471 --> 00:55:04,712
Speaker 1: a makeup artist who would be dabbing your face and

1133
00:55:04,752 --> 00:55:06,471
Speaker 1: I'd go like, I visitor, she I know that. Don't

1134
00:55:06,511 --> 00:55:08,272
Speaker 1: you think I don't know that. I'm like, okay, no problem.

1135
00:55:08,272 --> 00:55:10,151
Speaker 1: He was whatever you'd say. She was so defensive. So

1136
00:55:10,192 --> 00:55:12,552
Speaker 1: he goes, Harry, shears, like you should do that at SNL.

1137
00:55:12,832 --> 00:55:14,312
Speaker 1: Like it because she's gonna know. He's like, she's not

1138
00:55:14,312 --> 00:55:16,111
Speaker 1: gonna know, Just do it. He goes, I started doing

1139
00:55:16,111 --> 00:55:17,951
Speaker 1: it and people love the character, and he goes, she

1140
00:55:18,031 --> 00:55:20,752
Speaker 1: didn't find out until literally the rap party. Her assistant

1141
00:55:20,832 --> 00:55:22,711
Speaker 1: is so drunk and she goes, don't you know what

1142
00:55:22,712 --> 00:55:25,872
Speaker 1: Marty's doing? Marty's making funny but he's Seingntha he's doing you.

1143
00:55:25,991 --> 00:55:27,711
Speaker 1: She goes, I know that, don't you think I don't know?

1144
00:55:27,792 --> 00:55:31,751
Speaker 1: That great documentary?

1145
00:55:32,551 --> 00:55:34,192
Speaker 2: It was great. I love Martin Short.

1146
00:55:34,272 --> 00:55:37,471
Speaker 6: It was incredibly compelling how much loss he's had in

1147
00:55:37,511 --> 00:55:41,951
Speaker 6: his life. His daughter passed away before the film came out,

1148
00:55:41,991 --> 00:55:46,671
Speaker 6: and Catherine O'Hara, who was in the film, but just

1149
00:55:46,792 --> 00:55:48,832
Speaker 6: you could see through it all. Like the amount of

1150
00:55:48,832 --> 00:55:51,871
Speaker 6: home video they have is pretty, uh, pretty impressive because

1151
00:55:51,872 --> 00:55:54,191
Speaker 6: this guy, he and his wife seem to host every

1152
00:55:54,192 --> 00:55:56,392
Speaker 6: weekend by the looks of it, you know, and and

1153
00:55:56,591 --> 00:55:57,632
Speaker 6: documented everything.

1154
00:55:58,111 --> 00:55:58,551
Speaker 2: Loved it.

1155
00:55:58,591 --> 00:56:03,031
Speaker 6: I was shocked by the revelation that that Three Amigos.

1156
00:56:02,591 --> 00:56:03,632
Speaker 1: Was a bomb.

1157
00:56:03,712 --> 00:56:07,031
Speaker 6: I love that rights to watch a million times, So

1158
00:56:07,111 --> 00:56:09,312
Speaker 6: that was that was shocking. But yeah, a lot of

1159
00:56:09,352 --> 00:56:12,792
Speaker 6: fun like you'll laugh, you'll cry. We all love Martin Short.

1160
00:56:12,951 --> 00:56:14,511
Speaker 1: Jady, your thoughts of Marty Shore. I know you even

1161
00:56:14,551 --> 00:56:14,991
Speaker 1: seen The Dog.

1162
00:56:15,071 --> 00:56:18,271
Speaker 2: I mean, Glickman, is that interview.

1163
00:56:18,152 --> 00:56:20,071
Speaker 1: Jiminy Glick is unbelievable. I'm glad you put that out.

1164
00:56:20,071 --> 00:56:21,591
Speaker 1: That's probably the funniest ten minutes of the Dog.

1165
00:56:21,672 --> 00:56:25,512
Speaker 2: It's incredible, But those interviews are so funny.

1166
00:56:26,152 --> 00:56:28,031
Speaker 1: He talks to Steven Spielger, Stephen, what are you gonna

1167
00:56:28,031 --> 00:56:28,832
Speaker 1: make the big one.

1168
00:56:29,031 --> 00:56:37,432
Speaker 7: When I'm really connect with the audience. Frank Frank frug

1169
00:56:37,551 --> 00:56:39,631
Speaker 7: is incredible Father Pride, and.

1170
00:56:39,672 --> 00:56:41,232
Speaker 1: He said that part of the joke. Steve Marton's like,

1171
00:56:41,272 --> 00:56:43,272
Speaker 1: he goes, you can't understand what he's saying. He's like,

1172
00:56:43,352 --> 00:56:45,352
Speaker 1: but they can understand it. He's like, yeah, Frank, is

1173
00:56:45,431 --> 00:56:47,911
Speaker 1: that guy's heavily effeminate, crazy act. That's where he's from.

1174
00:56:48,031 --> 00:56:48,792
Speaker 5: He's just European.

1175
00:56:48,872 --> 00:56:49,752
Speaker 1: He's just a wedding planner.

1176
00:56:49,951 --> 00:56:50,631
Speaker 5: We'll figure it out.

1177
00:56:51,232 --> 00:56:53,191
Speaker 1: Great stuff makes you check it out, all right, Hey,

1178
00:56:53,272 --> 00:56:56,631
Speaker 1: Porter Nate, Porter Bartone. Unbelievable. This guy's been great so far.

1179
00:56:56,792 --> 00:56:59,192
Speaker 1: The World Championships of course, made an impact with the

1180
00:56:59,232 --> 00:57:01,111
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Flyers, and then sick because yeah, I want to

1181
00:57:01,152 --> 00:57:04,352
Speaker 1: play with him. So it's Sidney Crosby and Macklin celebringing

1182
00:57:04,471 --> 00:57:07,111
Speaker 1: right now. You know, we've had Dean Everison on telling

1183
00:57:07,192 --> 00:57:10,031
Speaker 1: us how big the World Championships was for celebrity playing

1184
00:57:10,031 --> 00:57:12,832
Speaker 1: with Sidney Crossby. Could we see that now furthering Porter

1185
00:57:12,951 --> 00:57:13,832
Speaker 1: Marton's development?

1186
00:57:14,352 --> 00:57:17,151
Speaker 4: I mean absolutely. I mean to have the opportunity to

1187
00:57:17,192 --> 00:57:19,151
Speaker 4: play with sid and all these other good players and

1188
00:57:19,272 --> 00:57:21,952
Speaker 4: be around him, and you know it just I don't

1189
00:57:21,952 --> 00:57:23,312
Speaker 4: even think he's playing with him, you know, but you

1190
00:57:23,592 --> 00:57:25,271
Speaker 4: you're we're with him in the locker room. You see

1191
00:57:25,312 --> 00:57:27,191
Speaker 4: how they practice, you know, you pick up so many

1192
00:57:27,312 --> 00:57:29,992
Speaker 4: different little things. I'm sure Macklin did last year, and

1193
00:57:30,472 --> 00:57:32,112
Speaker 4: you know, Porter Maarton is going to do the same thing.

1194
00:57:32,152 --> 00:57:35,192
Speaker 4: It's almost kind of funny because Sid's helping the Flyers

1195
00:57:35,272 --> 00:57:40,151
Speaker 4: right now, making Port Martone better. So but this is

1196
00:57:40,232 --> 00:57:40,832
Speaker 4: great for him.

1197
00:57:42,392 --> 00:57:46,832
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, just from enemies to wine mates, just

1198
00:57:46,952 --> 00:57:49,592
Speaker 3: dishing the puck together. Uh yeah, I mean, I love

1199
00:57:49,631 --> 00:57:52,671
Speaker 3: the World Championship. Sid just showing you he loves the

1200
00:57:52,792 --> 00:57:56,472
Speaker 3: game so much. Going and you know, stewarding these young kids,

1201
00:57:56,912 --> 00:57:59,472
Speaker 3: Porter Marton, I mean the futures Bread. There's a lot

1202
00:57:59,472 --> 00:58:00,912
Speaker 3: of young kids that came in the league this year

1203
00:58:00,952 --> 00:58:02,831
Speaker 3: that really exceeded expectations.

1204
00:58:02,872 --> 00:58:03,432
Speaker 2: He's one of them.

1205
00:58:04,792 --> 00:58:07,712
Speaker 1: Familiar face for women's hockey histories back Manon Reem, the

1206
00:58:07,792 --> 00:58:11,592
Speaker 1: only woman to play, Yeah, the only woman to play

1207
00:58:11,592 --> 00:58:13,472
Speaker 1: in an NHL game of any kind. Named the general

1208
00:58:13,552 --> 00:58:16,912
Speaker 1: manager of the new p w HL team in Detroit,

1209
00:58:17,392 --> 00:58:20,191
Speaker 1: one of four expansion teams coming to the league. Hamilton's

1210
00:58:20,192 --> 00:58:22,432
Speaker 1: got a team Vegas. You get a team, and big

1211
00:58:22,472 --> 00:58:25,112
Speaker 1: one for you San Jose's in Ralm was spent four

1212
00:58:25,192 --> 00:58:27,592
Speaker 1: years working hockey ops the Kings. Prior to that workload

1213
00:58:27,631 --> 00:58:29,831
Speaker 1: with the Little Caesars w a program for eleven year olds,

1214
00:58:30,072 --> 00:58:32,832
Speaker 1: A big ad for the p w HL. Listen, Ja,

1215
00:58:33,112 --> 00:58:35,272
Speaker 1: they're really smaller the league he women's hockey. They've got

1216
00:58:35,272 --> 00:58:36,992
Speaker 1: from eight to twelve teams down next season.

1217
00:58:37,032 --> 00:58:39,912
Speaker 2: That's crazy. Why the hell is Hamilton have a team

1218
00:58:40,472 --> 00:58:41,352
Speaker 2: dump of a city?

1219
00:58:41,512 --> 00:58:43,352
Speaker 1: That's why I wanted to mention that because put in

1220
00:58:43,592 --> 00:58:45,432
Speaker 1: it it's a population of five thousand.

1221
00:58:45,432 --> 00:58:52,472
Speaker 3: If you like, that's give Montreal two teams. Give Quebec

1222
00:58:52,552 --> 00:58:55,472
Speaker 3: city a team like team like the big city of

1223
00:58:55,512 --> 00:58:58,752
Speaker 3: the South video. I'd love to see Phoenix get a

1224
00:58:58,792 --> 00:59:00,432
Speaker 3: team to Yeah, they're doing a great job building this

1225
00:59:00,631 --> 00:59:02,871
Speaker 3: and and it's a great product on ice.

1226
00:59:02,952 --> 00:59:03,791
Speaker 2: It's been really good.

1227
00:59:03,872 --> 00:59:09,671
Speaker 3: So and o kayome another face, no Layom, another face

1228
00:59:10,272 --> 00:59:11,832
Speaker 3: ever on the pod every week out.

1229
00:59:11,912 --> 00:59:13,432
Speaker 1: Just give us a good French name and I want

1230
00:59:13,432 --> 00:59:14,832
Speaker 1: to go to see a JD could pronounce it.

1231
00:59:15,232 --> 00:59:17,192
Speaker 2: No Rayom.

1232
00:59:17,592 --> 00:59:20,872
Speaker 4: It's it's good too. For I love their adding teams

1233
00:59:20,872 --> 00:59:22,791
Speaker 4: on the West too. You know we got San Jose

1234
00:59:23,112 --> 00:59:27,392
Speaker 4: now and Vegas. I mean for especially being in California,

1235
00:59:27,512 --> 00:59:30,392
Speaker 4: like for young women in California, like Vegas is going

1236
00:59:30,472 --> 00:59:31,112
Speaker 4: to be their team.

1237
00:59:31,232 --> 00:59:32,631
Speaker 2: So it's it's great in San Jose.

1238
00:59:32,832 --> 00:59:34,992
Speaker 5: So it's gonna be It's gonna be awesome.

1239
00:59:35,112 --> 00:59:36,151
Speaker 2: It's just growing the game.

1240
00:59:36,952 --> 00:59:38,631
Speaker 1: And our last thought is we hand out flowers the

1241
00:59:38,672 --> 00:59:42,992
Speaker 1: Buffalo sabers nade plenty we'll get this one. Yeah, plenty

1242
00:59:43,032 --> 00:59:48,192
Speaker 1: of great stories to enjoy this season. They lost to

1243
00:59:48,272 --> 00:59:51,472
Speaker 1: Montreal Canadians and that rally song. They fired Kevin Adams

1244
00:59:51,512 --> 00:59:54,232
Speaker 1: as their GM in December fifteenth, they were fourteen fourteen

1245
00:59:54,312 --> 00:59:57,432
Speaker 1: and four. After that, thirty six, nine and five, finishing

1246
00:59:57,552 --> 00:59:59,992
Speaker 1: first in the Atlanta Division. They make the playoffs first

1247
00:59:59,992 --> 01:00:01,712
Speaker 1: time in fifteen years. They went a playoffs for his

1248
01:00:01,832 --> 01:00:05,272
Speaker 1: first time in nineteen years. So rais beer saber to

1249
01:00:05,352 --> 01:00:07,312
Speaker 1: the team and their fans. They got a recent Alex

1250
01:00:07,392 --> 01:00:10,472
Speaker 1: Tuck who went pointless with a minus eight against Montreal

1251
01:00:11,072 --> 01:00:13,912
Speaker 1: and Peyton krebs Beck Blentson will also be a FRA agent.

1252
01:00:14,192 --> 01:00:16,032
Speaker 1: Your thoughts on Buffalo date. It's one thing to say, Okay,

1253
01:00:16,032 --> 01:00:18,032
Speaker 1: we climbed the mountain, we made the playoffs, we won

1254
01:00:18,112 --> 01:00:19,432
Speaker 1: a round. Now what do you do.

1255
01:00:20,952 --> 01:00:23,392
Speaker 4: Do it again? Got to do it again? You got

1256
01:00:23,472 --> 01:00:25,512
Speaker 4: to keep growing. You can't just be one year and

1257
01:00:25,832 --> 01:00:27,872
Speaker 4: fourteen years and then not make the playoffs next year.

1258
01:00:27,872 --> 01:00:29,791
Speaker 4: You guys got to do it again. But I think

1259
01:00:29,872 --> 01:00:32,552
Speaker 4: now expectations and then obviously you said it with all

1260
01:00:32,592 --> 01:00:36,352
Speaker 4: the free agents they have a priority is I think

1261
01:00:36,392 --> 01:00:38,312
Speaker 4: you got to try and bring back Alex Tuck. I mean,

1262
01:00:38,392 --> 01:00:42,952
Speaker 4: he's from that area. You know, he's had success there,

1263
01:00:43,152 --> 01:00:45,231
Speaker 4: It's been a good fit. They have a good core

1264
01:00:45,312 --> 01:00:46,952
Speaker 4: group of guys. I think he should be part of it.

1265
01:00:47,072 --> 01:00:49,872
Speaker 4: And I think that's a big, uh, a big priority

1266
01:00:49,912 --> 01:00:50,872
Speaker 4: for them moving forward. Is that.

1267
01:00:52,112 --> 01:00:52,351
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1268
01:00:52,992 --> 01:00:57,192
Speaker 3: I mean Rasmus Dahlin coming out party almost this season.

1269
01:00:58,272 --> 01:01:01,472
Speaker 3: You know, Tage Thompson developed a little more into a

1270
01:01:01,631 --> 01:01:04,392
Speaker 3: veteran leader. You got Josh Doen had a breakout season

1271
01:01:04,552 --> 01:01:06,712
Speaker 3: in So there's a lot to like. A lot of

1272
01:01:06,832 --> 01:01:09,552
Speaker 3: UFAs though, and a lot of question marks I think

1273
01:01:09,631 --> 01:01:11,751
Speaker 3: on the back end for them. You know, they brought

1274
01:01:11,792 --> 01:01:13,792
Speaker 3: in Stanley and Schen two guys they brought in at

1275
01:01:13,832 --> 01:01:17,792
Speaker 3: the deadline. Both guys were scratched, so to me, you know,

1276
01:01:18,072 --> 01:01:20,752
Speaker 3: especially that both guys are scratching the biggest game of

1277
01:01:20,912 --> 01:01:24,872
Speaker 3: the season, so those guys are likely gone. So now

1278
01:01:24,912 --> 01:01:26,832
Speaker 3: you got to fix your decor you got you know,

1279
01:01:26,912 --> 01:01:29,472
Speaker 3: you didn't play Michael Kesslering at all. So I'm assuming

1280
01:01:29,712 --> 01:01:31,711
Speaker 3: they're going to get rid of him or and then

1281
01:01:31,752 --> 01:01:34,512
Speaker 3: that's another guy gone. They have Metsa there, you know,

1282
01:01:34,672 --> 01:01:36,751
Speaker 3: and I to me, I think personally, I think they

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Speaker 3: got to move one of those left handed defensemen, maybe

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Speaker 3: owen power, try to get somebody on the right side,

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Speaker 3: try to balance it out a little bit too more

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Speaker 3: because at the end of the day, I think as

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Speaker 3: good of a season they had, I think they should

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Speaker 3: have beat Montreal and they I think they dropped the

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Speaker 3: ball in that a little bit. I thought Abtreal again.

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Speaker 3: And it's no knock on Montreal at all, but they

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Speaker 3: had the game, They had a few games firmly in

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Speaker 3: hand that they let slip. And I just think that

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Speaker 3: we'll see what even happens at the coaching edition. Does

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Speaker 3: Lindy Rouff come back.

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Speaker 1: Well, heavy favor right now, Your boy Lindy rough To

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Speaker 1: win the Jack Adams Award. How about that.

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Speaker 2: I would have thought that this exp Does he come

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Speaker 2: back though, or does he retire? I don't know. He's

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Speaker 2: been in the league for one hundred years.

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Speaker 1: Just one of the Jack Atams. You gotta come back

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Speaker 1: one more if I'm.

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Speaker 3: Coaching one more and riding around one more. But yeah, so,

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Speaker 3: but you know, there's just there's a lot of question marks.

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Speaker 3: But today's point. You got to take a step forward.

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Speaker 3: Now you cannot go back.

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Speaker 2: I can't go back forward. Fuck can't go back.

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Speaker 3: That's from the critically acclaimed Broadway musical Pretty Woman.

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Speaker 1: Nice Well, you can play set with that song.

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Speaker 5: Go ahead?

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Speaker 1: What's the name of the song? Of all the habits?

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Speaker 1: Fans are playing this French song?

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Speaker 2: Go ahead, play it? Oh you wanted one more time?

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Speaker 5: That's close.

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Speaker 2: We closed.

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Speaker 1: I just let the song and towel it, so one

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