WEBVTT - All Hosts Comics Corner + Doctor Strange Comics Reading List & Moon Knight Ep 5 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:04.400 Warning. This podcast contains spoilers from Moonnight episode five, as 0:00:04.400 --> 0:00:07.560 well as theories for Doctor Stranger of the Multiverse of Madness, 0:00:07.800 --> 0:00:11.800 as well as some plot points from various comic book runs. 0:00:12.600 --> 0:00:14.360 Check the show notes to see which ones that we 0:00:14.400 --> 0:00:16.840 potentially spoil for you. If you don't want to be 0:00:16.840 --> 0:00:19.760 spoiled by any of that stuff, read the stuff, watch 0:00:19.800 --> 0:00:38.959 the stuff first, then come back. Hello, I name, It's 0:00:39.000 --> 0:00:42.200 Jason Concepcion. Welcome to Expert Vision The Crooked podcast, where 0:00:42.200 --> 0:00:46.680 we dive deep into your favorite shows, movies, comics, and 0:00:46.760 --> 0:00:51.320 pop culture. In today's action packed episode. In the previously on, 0:00:51.440 --> 0:00:55.160 we will talk about lots of news that is hitting 0:00:55.240 --> 0:01:00.200 the internet waves this week, including some interesting news from 0:01:00.200 --> 0:01:04.200 the MCU out of CinemaCon. In the Airlock, our good 0:01:04.240 --> 0:01:09.039 friend Cody Ziggler joins us once again to talk about comics, 0:01:09.160 --> 0:01:11.960 talk about comics in general, what we're reading, and also 0:01:12.520 --> 0:01:16.759 get together and kind of help us brainstorm a reading 0:01:16.800 --> 0:01:20.240 list of comics for Doctor Stranger of the Multiverse of Madness. 0:01:20.240 --> 0:01:23.679 In our nerd out, our listener tells us about Star 0:01:23.800 --> 0:01:26.520 Kid productions, and of course, if you want to jump around, 0:01:26.600 --> 0:01:29.040 check out the chime stamps. In the show notes. Joining 0:01:29.040 --> 0:01:35.080 me right now is the Walking Comics genius, the writer 0:01:35.280 --> 0:01:39.039 of a Godzilla comic coming out soon, one of the 0:01:39.080 --> 0:01:41.319 best to ever do it. It's Rosie night, Rosie. How 0:01:41.360 --> 0:01:42.080 are you hello? 0:01:42.200 --> 0:01:43.080 I'm good, I'm good. 0:01:43.080 --> 0:01:49.600 How are you doing good? Let's get into it first 0:01:49.680 --> 0:01:56.880 up and previously on shocking news Batman sequel greenlit I 0:01:56.920 --> 0:02:01.440 Can't Believe, with director Matt Reeves and star Robert Pattinson 0:02:01.520 --> 0:02:05.720 returna of Course. This announcement has been made at Simmacon, 0:02:06.320 --> 0:02:12.160 the ongoing convention of upcoming movie properties that is going 0:02:12.200 --> 0:02:15.080 on in Las Vegas right now. The movie, of Course, 0:02:15.120 --> 0:02:18.880 has been a critical and commercial success, having made the 0:02:19.000 --> 0:02:21.480 over seven hundred million dollars on the trot right now. 0:02:21.960 --> 0:02:25.679 No surprises here, right, Rosie, No surprises here, No especially. 0:02:25.720 --> 0:02:27.720 I think it was very well received from all different 0:02:27.760 --> 0:02:29.840 kinds of people. People who love these movies, people who 0:02:29.880 --> 0:02:33.680 don't love them, people who love certain iterations of the DCU, 0:02:33.760 --> 0:02:37.560 people who love different ones. It was widely enjoyed, widely beloved. 0:02:37.760 --> 0:02:40.000 Robert was great, Matt did a great job, and they, 0:02:40.000 --> 0:02:44.560 obviously spoiler alert introduced a very big famous Batman antagonist. 0:02:44.680 --> 0:02:47.120 So I think this was always meant to happen, and 0:02:47.160 --> 0:02:50.360 then the critical and commercial love for it makes it 0:02:50.400 --> 0:02:52.600 easy to happen. I'm excited see what happens next. I 0:02:52.639 --> 0:02:53.760 thought that movie was so great. 0:02:53.840 --> 0:02:57.760 Does Robert Pattins's Batman become like the Batman in a 0:02:58.200 --> 0:03:00.560 shared DC universe or what do they do? 0:03:01.400 --> 0:03:07.799 I think Reeve's universe acts as a year one, year two, 0:03:08.040 --> 0:03:08.959 zero year. 0:03:08.919 --> 0:03:10.680 Ish soft reboot. 0:03:10.800 --> 0:03:15.160 I think that in the major DCEU stuff that we 0:03:15.200 --> 0:03:18.680 still have going on, like for example, the Flash, which 0:03:18.720 --> 0:03:21.120 we know we'll probably introduce a new Justice League and 0:03:21.200 --> 0:03:23.760 kind of mainline characters, I think they're going to be 0:03:23.800 --> 0:03:26.960 looking for something a little bit different, a little bit younger. Also, 0:03:27.000 --> 0:03:29.160 with a Keaton returning, you could have someone like that 0:03:29.240 --> 0:03:31.400 as your main Batman who's more of a Batman Beyond, 0:03:32.400 --> 0:03:35.840 like era of Bruce, rather than being the actual Batman Beyond. 0:03:35.840 --> 0:03:39.760 But so I don't know. I think Matt's vision is 0:03:39.800 --> 0:03:43.440 so specific and unique, and I think they'll let them 0:03:43.640 --> 0:03:47.440 have a couple more movies before it becomes too entangled 0:03:47.880 --> 0:03:49.560 with the wider DCEU. 0:03:50.000 --> 0:03:54.840 Next up, Kevin Faige is representing Marvel of course at Sinemacon, 0:03:55.000 --> 0:03:57.320 and there's some interesting news out of there. First of all, 0:03:57.400 --> 0:04:01.320 Figi told the audience that directly after the convention he's 0:04:01.360 --> 0:04:04.520 going to a Marvel Studio's creative retreat where they will 0:04:04.520 --> 0:04:08.120 work on the next decade of MCU work. This mirrors 0:04:08.200 --> 0:04:10.920 the famed Marvel retreats that have been going on at 0:04:11.000 --> 0:04:14.920 least since the two thousands in Marvel Comics Universe. No 0:04:15.000 --> 0:04:17.120 surprise here, right, this is just kind of what you 0:04:17.120 --> 0:04:18.640 ca Yeah. 0:04:18.040 --> 0:04:20.279 I think it's really interesting. I think we can guess 0:04:20.320 --> 0:04:22.159 the big hitters that they're going to be talking about. 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:23.880 How do you bring in the Fantastic Four, how do 0:04:23.920 --> 0:04:25.520 you bring in the X Men, who's going to be 0:04:25.560 --> 0:04:28.400 the next Avengers team. What I'm very interested in is 0:04:28.440 --> 0:04:31.240 in the original iteration of the MCU, there was a 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:34.839 story group that included comic book creators. Yeah, and that 0:04:34.920 --> 0:04:39.240 has since been, to our knowledge, kind of disbanded. And 0:04:39.360 --> 0:04:42.000 I wonder if they're doing a retreat, we're going to 0:04:42.040 --> 0:04:45.479 see some kind of story group re enlisted, whether it's 0:04:45.480 --> 0:04:48.200 comic book creators or people from the Marvel TV shows 0:04:48.560 --> 0:04:50.560 or a wider group of people. Because usually if you're 0:04:50.560 --> 0:04:53.720 having a retreat, that's a brainstorming session to break this 0:04:53.760 --> 0:04:56.800 stuff out. I think that means we could probably be 0:04:56.920 --> 0:05:00.320 getting a Marvel likes to do those big days. They 0:05:00.400 --> 0:05:02.080 used to do them at the Al Capitan, Whew, they 0:05:02.120 --> 0:05:04.039 announced them. Now they do them as these kind of 0:05:04.080 --> 0:05:08.040 Disney preview days where they tease stuff. I think we 0:05:08.080 --> 0:05:09.920 could be get in one of those in the next 0:05:09.920 --> 0:05:11.839 few months if this retreat is happening. 0:05:12.440 --> 0:05:18.599 Some footage was apparently showed to the gathered throngs of Sizzle, 0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:22.240 real footage that has been described as it's unclear if 0:05:22.240 --> 0:05:26.799 it's like a still or a few seconds of video, 0:05:26.800 --> 0:05:33.200 but it's been described as Nakia, Shuri and Okoye involved 0:05:33.360 --> 0:05:37.200 in some kind of big battle, So that is very exciting. 0:05:38.000 --> 0:05:42.200 Marvel Studio's president, Kevin Faigie also promised that Ryan Cooler 0:05:42.279 --> 0:05:45.920 is working very hard on the sequel. No no surprise there. 0:05:46.920 --> 0:05:51.599 And of course around this movie, there have been rumors 0:05:51.640 --> 0:05:55.680 swirling for a while that we will we will be 0:05:55.720 --> 0:06:00.920 introduced to some Marvel comics mainstays, probably Liner among them 0:06:01.000 --> 0:06:03.960 is nay More, the leader of Atlantis, King of Atlantis, 0:06:04.240 --> 0:06:08.200 and then of course Rary Williams, the genius of the 0:06:08.240 --> 0:06:12.320 Marvel universe, also known as Ironheart, who will also be 0:06:12.360 --> 0:06:16.560 appearing her own Disney Plus series these are. That's unconfirmed, 0:06:16.960 --> 0:06:19.919 but that's stuff people have been talking about for a while, 0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:21.880 much in the same way that they were talking about 0:06:21.880 --> 0:06:24.960 the Illuminati for months and months and months before. It 0:06:25.040 --> 0:06:29.000 was very hard confirmed by the recent Doctor Strange trailer 0:06:30.160 --> 0:06:33.200 and speaking of Doctor Strange, Doctor Strange band in Saudi 0:06:33.200 --> 0:06:39.400 Arabia over Disney's decision to not cut about twelve seconds 0:06:39.640 --> 0:06:42.680 apparently this is reported by the Guardian twelve seconds from 0:06:42.720 --> 0:06:49.120 the film that Deal with America Chavez played by the 0:06:49.160 --> 0:06:55.760 actor so Shiel Gomez, in which America is discussing her 0:06:55.839 --> 0:07:00.760 two moms. So, I guess shouts to Disney for deciding 0:07:00.800 --> 0:07:02.440 not to cut. That not a big deal. 0:07:02.560 --> 0:07:04.640 So that's probably the only gay thing in the movie, 0:07:04.680 --> 0:07:06.800 So prepare yourself. If that was what they asked to 0:07:06.839 --> 0:07:09.200 be cut, that's probably the extension. 0:07:09.200 --> 0:07:11.480 I think we will all probably be surprised at how 0:07:11.520 --> 0:07:15.720 mild it is. And that is Yeah, go ahead. 0:07:16.480 --> 0:07:18.680 It makes sense with her comic book canon, she has 0:07:18.760 --> 0:07:21.400 Quinn Mom's utopian parallels very gay, so it's nice to 0:07:21.400 --> 0:07:24.760 know that they're sticking to that. Yeah, I'm intrigued. Good 0:07:24.800 --> 0:07:26.800 to see little things like refusing the cut like this 0:07:27.280 --> 0:07:29.680 I hope there's something more, but we shall see. 0:07:30.400 --> 0:07:33.480 And then finally new Doctor Strange trailer, probably the last 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:37.200 New Doctor Strange stuff we're going to see, considering the 0:07:37.240 --> 0:07:40.680 movie comes out May sixth, and you know, it's a 0:07:40.720 --> 0:07:44.680 mishmash of cuts that we've already seen. But the important 0:07:44.680 --> 0:07:48.600 thing is we hear the word Illuminati spoken in this 0:07:48.800 --> 0:07:52.440 by Baron Morto, leading us to question a lot of things, 0:07:52.480 --> 0:07:56.040 including like, man, how did Morto get get his like 0:07:56.560 --> 0:08:00.800 ticket punched to club Illuminati before Steven Strange? Very interesting? 0:08:01.200 --> 0:08:03.760 Yeah, I mean, is it our universe? Is Mordo? Is 0:08:03.760 --> 0:08:05.840 this a Mordo who was the Soorcers Supreme in a 0:08:05.880 --> 0:08:10.240 different universe? Is this a Mordo who has been enlisted 0:08:10.640 --> 0:08:13.840 by the Illuminati because for some reason they couldn't trust 0:08:13.920 --> 0:08:16.520 Strange and they needed someone to kind of be a counterpart. 0:08:16.880 --> 0:08:20.360 Is it a Baron Mordo who they need him to 0:08:20.480 --> 0:08:25.000 have more of that complex gray moral compass. Yeah, to 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:28.200 do things that maybe Stephen wouldn't do. It's very interesting, 0:08:28.240 --> 0:08:31.320 and I think it is. I can't work out if 0:08:31.320 --> 0:08:34.719 it's a massive reveal or a massive mysdirect that they 0:08:34.800 --> 0:08:37.960 mention it. I'm like, what does this mean? For the Illuminati. 0:08:38.040 --> 0:08:39.840 Are they going to be a key part? Is this? 0:08:40.440 --> 0:08:42.920 Do they know people are excited? I it was. It 0:08:42.960 --> 0:08:43.760 got me excited. 0:08:43.800 --> 0:08:48.960 So what I am extremely excited and my my gut 0:08:49.080 --> 0:08:51.920 feeling tells me that they're going to be like one 0:08:52.040 --> 0:08:55.120 scene and that's right. You know it's gonna be like 0:08:55.559 --> 0:08:56.480 the name. 0:08:56.720 --> 0:08:58.920 Yeah, as soon as they said the name, I was like, 0:09:00.200 --> 0:09:02.800 that feels like we're going to see them for maybe 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:04.559 one scene, but I'll be happy. 0:09:04.320 --> 0:09:04.640 With the ones. 0:09:04.880 --> 0:09:06.960 I will be very very happy. Listen, if we see 0:09:07.000 --> 0:09:10.439 Patrick Stewart in that little shiny head of his as 0:09:10.520 --> 0:09:13.120 Charles Xavier up on that little Illuminati stage, I will 0:09:13.160 --> 0:09:14.679 be very very excited. Okay, dude. 0:09:14.720 --> 0:09:18.080 The way that people responded in the theater when like, 0:09:18.920 --> 0:09:21.520 you know, we saw Charlie Cox as Daredevil or we 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:24.640 saw you know, the Spider Man come back, there's no 0:09:25.080 --> 0:09:27.320 like if it's gonna be Charles, that's gonna be ten 0:09:27.400 --> 0:09:30.280 thousand times louder in that theater and I cannot wait. 0:09:30.360 --> 0:09:34.640 It's gonna go absolutely crazy. Okay, and by the way, 0:09:34.720 --> 0:09:37.240 stay tuned X Revision for more Doctor Strange to the 0:09:37.320 --> 0:09:43.559 Multiverse Menace coverage. Okay, let's recap Moonnight, Episode five Asylum, 0:09:43.960 --> 0:09:47.760 directed by Mohammed Diab, written by Rebecca Kersh and Matthew Orton. 0:09:48.080 --> 0:09:53.640 This was a just in terms of like performances. This 0:09:53.720 --> 0:09:57.360 is a tour de force for Oscar Isaac. We pick 0:09:57.440 --> 0:09:59.520 up right at the end of episode four, where Mark 0:09:59.520 --> 0:10:01.920 and Stephen On themselves face to face with the Egyptian 0:10:02.600 --> 0:10:06.839 god Tarowett, a hippo deity. The hippodity having said oh 0:10:06.960 --> 0:10:10.640 hi to the two men Stephen and Mark, who are 0:10:10.679 --> 0:10:14.120 of course the same band, leading them to scream, leading 0:10:14.160 --> 0:10:16.800 the hippo to scream, and we pick up right after 0:10:16.840 --> 0:10:22.280 that only Mark is back in Arthur Harrow's office, and 0:10:24.120 --> 0:10:26.839 right before that we have these little flashes of what 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:29.880 we take to be like memories. Right we have a 0:10:29.960 --> 0:10:32.480 child screaming in a dark place somewhere. We hear a 0:10:32.559 --> 0:10:34.520 woman saying this is all your fault. And then Mark 0:10:34.559 --> 0:10:38.960 finds himself back in Arthur's office. Arthur mentions and Mark, 0:10:38.960 --> 0:10:42.160 You're in a mental hospital in Chicago and your mind, 0:10:42.600 --> 0:10:44.920 your reason, your hero is because your mind keeps whips 0:10:45.000 --> 0:10:48.640 on between these disconnected fantasies that you have created or 0:10:48.720 --> 0:10:51.120 to deal with some kind of trauma. Let's get to 0:10:51.160 --> 0:10:54.040 the center of what that trauma is, Mark, You're ready, 0:10:54.040 --> 0:10:56.240 And Mark's like, I don't know, because I don't believe 0:10:56.240 --> 0:10:58.200 that you're a real doctor. I think you're Arthur Harrow, 0:10:58.320 --> 0:11:03.560 the genocidalmaniac who's trying to wake Amet. Arthur asks Mark 0:11:03.760 --> 0:11:05.960 to like, okay, so how did you get here? Do 0:11:05.960 --> 0:11:08.959 you remember that? And Mark admits, which I think is 0:11:09.000 --> 0:11:10.800 a big step for him, that you listen, things are 0:11:10.800 --> 0:11:16.640 happening that are completely nonsensical and I don't necessarily know 0:11:16.679 --> 0:11:19.240 how to put all the pieces together. Arthur wants Mark 0:11:19.880 --> 0:11:22.599 to talk more about the little boy that he was 0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:26.600 apparently mentioning before we pick up the scene and before 0:11:26.679 --> 0:11:31.200 the hippo character diverted him. Mark grows violent. He like 0:11:31.400 --> 0:11:35.320 tries to fight with some orderlies. The orderlies managed to 0:11:35.360 --> 0:11:37.439 stick a needle in his neck, and next thing you know, 0:11:37.480 --> 0:11:40.680 he's back in front of Taroette with Stephen, and Tarowett 0:11:40.720 --> 0:11:43.640 asks Steven and Mark, you know, it's like, Mark, al 0:11:43.800 --> 0:11:48.080 is this intense? Tarowit then tells the two guess what, surprise, 0:11:48.520 --> 0:11:51.600 You're dead. Both of you our dead. This is now 0:11:52.440 --> 0:11:58.720 a second real like interaction with people in a post 0:11:58.840 --> 0:12:02.240 life plane. The ancestry plane from Black Panther being the 0:12:02.240 --> 0:12:06.319 first time, but this is like our first extended time 0:12:06.559 --> 0:12:10.480 since then at in a world that is post life, 0:12:10.760 --> 0:12:15.360 leading to a question of like, when do we see someone? 0:12:15.679 --> 0:12:17.839 When do we see someone resurrected? Because it's going to happen. 0:12:17.960 --> 0:12:20.400 I mean, it arguably is going to happen right here, 0:12:21.200 --> 0:12:24.040 but I wonder if it happens with a major character 0:12:24.080 --> 0:12:26.040 at some point. Rosie. Of course, like our character, our 0:12:26.040 --> 0:12:29.040 friends in these stories have died and come back many 0:12:29.080 --> 0:12:31.200 many times in the comics, I wonder when it happens 0:12:31.280 --> 0:12:32.120 in the main movies. 0:12:32.600 --> 0:12:34.200 I think we're close to it, and I think that 0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:37.640 this episode specifically leans into that because, as we'll get 0:12:37.640 --> 0:12:40.160 to in a bit, we meet Mark's brother and the 0:12:40.240 --> 0:12:42.319 version that we see of him here is very different. 0:12:42.360 --> 0:12:44.000 But in the comics, that is a character who has 0:12:44.040 --> 0:12:47.520 died and been resurrected, and the idea of resurrection and 0:12:47.559 --> 0:12:50.480 the kind of shadow of it over this episode is 0:12:51.120 --> 0:12:52.880 really there. So I think that could be something we 0:12:52.920 --> 0:12:55.840 see in Doctor Strange. We've seen versions of it and 0:12:55.920 --> 0:12:58.840 what if with the zombies. So yeah, it feels like 0:12:58.920 --> 0:13:03.600 they're bringing in these multiple levels of existent some past 0:13:03.679 --> 0:13:05.600 life in a way that's going to play into the 0:13:05.600 --> 0:13:06.600 future of the MCU. 0:13:07.040 --> 0:13:12.440 Tarott then welcomes them to do at this place where 0:13:12.600 --> 0:13:15.760 souls begin their journey to the afterlife. It is one 0:13:15.800 --> 0:13:19.080 of many places such places, Tarrowett mentions, much like the 0:13:19.120 --> 0:13:23.400 ancestral plane, and the reason they perceive this place as 0:13:23.440 --> 0:13:26.640 a mental hospital is because their minds, their human minds 0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:32.200 can't possibly make sense of where they are the shades 0:13:32.240 --> 0:13:37.360 of Shades of Harry Potter book seven, but like you 0:13:37.559 --> 0:13:40.360 can't possibly understand where they are. Therefore they're making it 0:13:40.360 --> 0:13:42.600 into a place that makes sense to them. Thus the 0:13:42.640 --> 0:13:45.880 hospital Mark then is like, I can't deal with this. 0:13:46.000 --> 0:13:48.560 I'm gonna I'm out of here. He throws open a 0:13:48.559 --> 0:13:50.840 pair of doors, and he finds himself on the deck 0:13:50.880 --> 0:13:53.960 of this huge ship that is sailing across the sands 0:13:54.000 --> 0:13:56.800 of the underworld, and they're on their way to ru 0:13:56.920 --> 0:14:02.000 which is like the eternal paradise field of reeds. Tarawett says. 0:14:02.040 --> 0:14:04.720 She reaches into their chests and pulls out these little 0:14:04.840 --> 0:14:09.080 ivory hearts stone hearts, which she will then weigh in 0:14:09.200 --> 0:14:11.439 order to see if they're balanced, if the things that 0:14:11.480 --> 0:14:15.600 they've done throughout their lives have led to their deeds 0:14:15.640 --> 0:14:17.880 being balanced, and thus they are able to be admitted 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:21.720 into the Field of Reeds. And if they're not found worthy, 0:14:22.080 --> 0:14:25.120 no big deal. They're just thrown over the side into 0:14:25.160 --> 0:14:28.520 the sands where they are like torn apart by the 0:14:28.640 --> 0:14:32.520 other unworthy souls who lurk there in the underworld. So 0:14:32.640 --> 0:14:37.120 not a big deal. But here's a problem. The hearts 0:14:37.160 --> 0:14:40.800 that Tarawet removed because they're from one person who has 0:14:40.920 --> 0:14:45.520 been split somehow, broken somehow, they're not whole, and thus 0:14:46.000 --> 0:14:48.920 Stephen and Mark can't get into the underworld. Steven and 0:14:48.960 --> 0:14:53.000 Mark need to reunite their fractured pieces of soul, pieces 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:55.360 of heart, and balance the scales before they arrive at 0:14:55.360 --> 0:14:59.160 the Field of Reeds. Quick note, this little line from 0:14:59.200 --> 0:15:02.840 Tarawt was a rate. Okay, here's the mission for the 0:15:02.880 --> 0:15:05.520 rest of the episode, like it's it's like it was 0:15:05.560 --> 0:15:10.960 a great here's what they're doing line. If they fail again, 0:15:10.960 --> 0:15:13.520 no big deal, their souls will just simply be destroyed. 0:15:16.040 --> 0:15:19.320 Good news. Everything that they have ever experienced is on 0:15:19.400 --> 0:15:21.120 the ship, all their memories are on their ship. So 0:15:21.160 --> 0:15:24.480 it's time to go back inside this faux mental hospital 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:28.840 and just like learn about each other. Mark is very resistant. 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:31.960 He doesn't want to do this. He and Stephen are 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:34.160 discussing it, and Steven's like, no, I think we should 0:15:34.200 --> 0:15:35.680 do this is a good idea, Like we need to 0:15:35.680 --> 0:15:39.880 find out like with the secrets that you're hiding are, 0:15:40.080 --> 0:15:42.480 with the secrets you buried are And Mark is like, 0:15:42.520 --> 0:15:45.480 I don't know what if we like like attack Tarouet, 0:15:45.880 --> 0:15:48.120 the Egyptian god of women and children, and maybe like 0:15:48.160 --> 0:15:51.720 tire her up and take take the ship. Mark, classic mom, 0:15:51.960 --> 0:15:56.560 classic Mark, No, don't do that. Steven says, no, We're 0:15:56.560 --> 0:15:58.080 not gonna do that. We're gonna do what she says. 0:15:58.120 --> 0:16:00.480 And then he then sees like a strange through a 0:16:00.480 --> 0:16:03.480 window and door he scenes Moonnight in action kicking ass 0:16:03.480 --> 0:16:06.560 and through another window he uh. They see Stephen and 0:16:06.640 --> 0:16:10.560 Kanshu turning back the stars as Leilah watches. Then they 0:16:10.600 --> 0:16:14.840 hear the boy again in some kind of terror. Uh. 0:16:14.960 --> 0:16:18.560 They enter a cafeteria that is filled with dead bodies 0:16:18.680 --> 0:16:21.640 and these apparently are all the people that Mark has 0:16:21.720 --> 0:16:25.000 killed over the course of his of his service, well 0:16:25.040 --> 0:16:27.520 of the course of his life, including his service to Kanshu. 0:16:27.520 --> 0:16:30.080 And guess what, it's a lot of people, folks, It's 0:16:30.080 --> 0:16:30.360 a cat. 0:16:30.440 --> 0:16:32.920 He killed a lot of people, and let's let's keep 0:16:32.920 --> 0:16:34.840 that in mind, because I have some thoughts about the 0:16:34.960 --> 0:16:37.160 end of this episode. So let's keep in mind how 0:16:37.200 --> 0:16:38.720 many people Marks back to killed. 0:16:38.840 --> 0:16:42.880 It's even marked. It's a cafeteria worth of people, like 0:16:42.920 --> 0:16:47.640 it's legitimately a full cafeteria people. Mark insists, Listen, these 0:16:47.640 --> 0:16:51.400 were bad folks, as far as I know, bad people 0:16:51.480 --> 0:16:55.440 Marked by the vengeance of Kanshu were notably leaving out 0:16:55.480 --> 0:16:58.920 any of the people he killed as a mercenary. Okay uh. 0:16:59.120 --> 0:17:04.400 But interesting fact, once this detail about Mark has been revealed, 0:17:04.440 --> 0:17:07.320 the scales, which had been kind of like going back 0:17:07.400 --> 0:17:10.760 and forth unbalanced, are now beginning to slow. This process 0:17:10.800 --> 0:17:14.360 of revealing, of working through these past memories is working. 0:17:15.800 --> 0:17:18.640 The child that they've been hearing now appears in the room. 0:17:19.240 --> 0:17:21.879 Stephen goes after him. Mark is like, don't do that, 0:17:22.359 --> 0:17:26.320 and Stephen looks in a room of Mark's memories and 0:17:26.680 --> 0:17:30.239 discovers Mark. This boy is Mark as a boy, and 0:17:30.280 --> 0:17:32.359 we see Mark as a boy with his parents and 0:17:32.400 --> 0:17:35.360 his little brother. Mark's mom is telling Mark, listen, you've 0:17:35.359 --> 0:17:37.840 got young Mark. You've got to watch over your little brother. 0:17:37.880 --> 0:17:40.399 That's your job. That is your responsibility. The boys then 0:17:40.440 --> 0:17:43.760 go off through the woods down into a cave which 0:17:43.760 --> 0:17:48.120 they are looking to explore, and a rainstorm, A flash 0:17:48.200 --> 0:17:52.920 thunderstorm happens and the cave quickly fills with water, flooding 0:17:53.600 --> 0:17:58.160 and Mark's brother dies. Our Mark then enters a memory 0:17:58.280 --> 0:18:03.320 of his family sitting shim brother. Mark's mom, Wendy, blames 0:18:03.320 --> 0:18:05.679 the death explicitly on Mark, like straight up is like 0:18:05.760 --> 0:18:11.160 that's your act, which is fucked up. Mark's father remains 0:18:11.200 --> 0:18:14.680 over the course of time, we would surmise close to Mark, 0:18:14.720 --> 0:18:19.440 but his mother is increasingly hateful, clearly depressed and vengeful, 0:18:19.600 --> 0:18:22.600 lashing out all the time. We see young Mark flee 0:18:22.640 --> 0:18:24.760 into his bedroom. Stephen tries to go and see what's 0:18:24.800 --> 0:18:27.520 gonna go on there, but Mark won't let him go 0:18:27.600 --> 0:18:30.720 see it. We get another memory of younger Mark, teenage 0:18:30.720 --> 0:18:34.040 Mark now leaving home with his father insisting, listen, your 0:18:34.040 --> 0:18:36.919 mother's gonna get help. I know that she's in a 0:18:36.920 --> 0:18:39.520 bad way right now, very toxic, but like she's gonna 0:18:39.520 --> 0:18:43.399 get help, you shouldn't leave. Mark then takes Stephen away 0:18:43.400 --> 0:18:45.520 from this memory. They end up in an even more 0:18:45.600 --> 0:18:49.240 troubling memory. Dead bodies in the desert at night in 0:18:49.320 --> 0:18:50.960 front of the tomb of kan Chu, and this, of 0:18:51.000 --> 0:18:53.760 course is the Faithful Knight from Mark's Mercenary Days where 0:18:53.800 --> 0:18:57.399 he first makes the acquaintance of Kanchu. One of the 0:18:57.440 --> 0:19:02.919 dead there laying under the moon is Laylah's dad. Whoops, 0:19:02.960 --> 0:19:05.880 Mark grievously wounded as preparing to take his own knife, 0:19:05.880 --> 0:19:08.840 and then here's the voice of Kanchu and kan She's like, hey, 0:19:09.240 --> 0:19:13.119 uh wow, you're a really fucked up person with a 0:19:13.160 --> 0:19:18.200 lot of problems, and I'm sensing, you know, a fractured psyche. 0:19:18.760 --> 0:19:21.520 You're perfect. You're perfect for what I have in mind, 0:19:21.560 --> 0:19:24.920 which is you are my hands, my eyes, my vengeance, 0:19:24.960 --> 0:19:28.879 my final word against evildoers on Earth. Uh so that's 0:19:28.920 --> 0:19:32.640 the deal you serve me on Earth. I heal you, 0:19:32.640 --> 0:19:35.720 you go out and kill people for me, or you 0:19:35.760 --> 0:19:40.600 die right here. And so Mark takes a deal. Kan Hu. Uh, 0:19:42.000 --> 0:19:44.800 you know, clearly a very exploitive person. Stephen points this 0:19:44.880 --> 0:19:47.840 out to Mark, like Kanchu was an asshole, like kan 0:19:47.920 --> 0:19:52.880 Chu saw a mentally ill person who was bad and 0:19:53.040 --> 0:19:55.800 decided I can exploit this person. And yes, Mark says 0:19:55.840 --> 0:19:57.560 he did that, but he also kept us alive. And 0:19:57.560 --> 0:20:01.280 then suddenly the scales are balanced. Outside in the duot, 0:20:01.320 --> 0:20:03.760 a storm is brewding. They go back up to the 0:20:04.320 --> 0:20:06.119 deck of the ship and Taro d is like, you 0:20:06.160 --> 0:20:08.720 see all these purple things raining from the sky. Guess 0:20:08.720 --> 0:20:11.520 what that is? That's people that Haro is killing up 0:20:11.560 --> 0:20:15.040 in the real world, just as he promised to do. 0:20:15.760 --> 0:20:18.120 Mark and Stephen then asked Tarawett, okay, send us back, 0:20:18.600 --> 0:20:21.600 like we can stop him, like send us back to life. 0:20:22.800 --> 0:20:25.359 And before you do that, get a message to Laila 0:20:25.480 --> 0:20:29.159 to free Kanshu so that you know, like when we 0:20:29.240 --> 0:20:33.800 go back into a body filled with bullets, Kanshu can 0:20:33.880 --> 0:20:35.880 put the suit on us and heal us and we'll 0:20:35.920 --> 0:20:37.960 come back and we can and we can fight Arthur Harrow. 0:20:38.880 --> 0:20:42.840 Taro d is like, that's a bad idea because you 0:20:42.920 --> 0:20:45.159 were both just coming to the place where you realize 0:20:45.200 --> 0:20:47.280 that Kanhu is like bad for you, like Kadju's like 0:20:47.280 --> 0:20:51.600 a bad person to be involved with. But okay, like 0:20:51.680 --> 0:20:53.840 I guess what choice do we have. She turns the 0:20:53.840 --> 0:20:57.000 boat around. Stephen wants to go back into that bedroom memory. 0:20:57.000 --> 0:21:00.159 Mark resists. Stephen says, listen, if all these people die, 0:21:00.200 --> 0:21:02.240 because you won't let me see this memory, that's going 0:21:02.320 --> 0:21:04.440 to be your fault. If Layla dies, it's going to 0:21:04.480 --> 0:21:05.800 be your fault. All that stuff is going to be 0:21:05.840 --> 0:21:07.840 your fault. Now, of course, this is exactly the same 0:21:07.880 --> 0:21:13.239 thing that his mother, Mark's mother said to him, and 0:21:13.280 --> 0:21:16.880 that was kind of the beginning of this traumatic break, 0:21:17.400 --> 0:21:21.000 and it causes Mark to just crumble. He shatters. He 0:21:21.040 --> 0:21:24.080 finds himself back in Arthur Harrow's office. Arthur raises the 0:21:24.119 --> 0:21:27.640 possibility that Stephen was created by Mark to hide trauma, 0:21:28.200 --> 0:21:29.120 which turns out to be. 0:21:29.119 --> 0:21:29.720 Very very right. 0:21:30.080 --> 0:21:32.480 Haro wants Mark to open up to Steven so that 0:21:32.560 --> 0:21:35.719 Stephen can understand the things that Mark is hiding from Stephen, 0:21:35.880 --> 0:21:39.040 that Mark created Stephen to hide from himself. We go 0:21:39.080 --> 0:21:42.639 to the room Mark's childhood room, and in there we 0:21:42.720 --> 0:21:48.520 see an appalling scene Mark's mom abusing him physically. Stephen 0:21:48.600 --> 0:21:53.160 is a Paul discovered that not only this terribly troubling, 0:21:53.359 --> 0:21:56.159 violent scene, but also that he kind of doesn't exist, 0:21:56.240 --> 0:21:59.840 like he's not a quote unquote real person. He is 0:21:59.880 --> 0:22:04.640 a creation of Mark, created specifically to hide this trauma. 0:22:05.440 --> 0:22:07.960 And then now Stephen finds himself in Harrow's office. Haro 0:22:08.080 --> 0:22:11.000 wants to call Steven's mother on the phone to discuss 0:22:11.040 --> 0:22:14.600 this situation and Steven's like, ah, don't do that. Haro 0:22:14.680 --> 0:22:17.080 then gets her on the phone and he's talking to her. 0:22:17.080 --> 0:22:21.199 Stephen realizes, wait, that can't be because Mark's mother is 0:22:21.280 --> 0:22:25.960 my mother, and Mark's mother is dead. Therefore she is dead. Therefore, 0:22:26.000 --> 0:22:28.560 all of my memories of having a great relationship with 0:22:28.600 --> 0:22:30.280 my mom and all these phone calls I was having 0:22:30.280 --> 0:22:32.560 with her from the museum and from my apartment, those 0:22:32.600 --> 0:22:35.760 are all fake. That's not real. We see then the 0:22:35.800 --> 0:22:39.400 memory of Mark at his outside his mother's shiva. They 0:22:39.400 --> 0:22:42.480 see the moment that Stephen took over from Mark outside 0:22:43.680 --> 0:22:47.119