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Speaker 1: Jason Concepcion. Welcome to Expert Vision The Crooked podcast, where

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Speaker 1: we dive deep into your favorite shows, movies, comics, and

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Speaker 1: talk about comics in general, what we're reading, and also

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Speaker 1: list of comics for Doctor Stranger of the Multiverse of Madness.

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Speaker 1: In our nerd out, our listener tells us about Star

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Speaker 1: me right now is the Walking Comics genius, the writer

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Speaker 1: best to ever do it. It's Rosie night, Rosie. How

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Speaker 2: I'm good, I'm good.

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Speaker 1: How are you doing good? Let's get into it first

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Speaker 1: up and previously on shocking news Batman sequel greenlit I

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Speaker 1: Can't Believe, with director Matt Reeves and star Robert Pattinson

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Speaker 1: returna of Course. This announcement has been made at Simmacon,

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Speaker 1: the ongoing convention of upcoming movie properties that is going

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Speaker 1: has been a critical and commercial success, having made the

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Speaker 1: No surprises here, right, Rosie, No surprises here, No especially.

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Speaker 2: I think it was very well received from all different

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Speaker 1: mass murderer in the service of an Egyptian god god show,

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Speaker 1: you know.

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Speaker 2: What I mean.

431
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Speaker 1: So like, yeah, you're not getting into the ancestral plane

432
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:37,400
Speaker 1: or valala, right, you know. But much like if Thor,

433
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 1: as we all know, young Thor, you know, back in

434
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,159
Speaker 1: the Viking days took part in human battles killed. We

435
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 1: would surmise many many, many many people in the prosecution

436
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 1: of various Viking wars. Right, that Odin blessed as being fine.

437
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:59,119
Speaker 1: Therefore he could enter, you know, like the as Guardian afterlife,

438
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 1: but maybe like the Egyptian afterlife will be close to him,

439
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 1: maybe in a similar way. That is why it's not necessarily.

440
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,919
Speaker 2: Very thoughtful, Right, that's very thoughtful, generous take, and I

441
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:11,360
Speaker 2: like it.

442
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,160
Speaker 1: It's not necessarily hope that it's not as say, Mark

443
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 1: is a great guy. It's like, well, can't you who's

444
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:19,719
Speaker 1: one of us said go ahead and do this, this

445
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 1: is fine.

446
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 2: And pay for his So I think that narratively, if

447
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,639
Speaker 2: we get like, the feelings are the feelings, and it's

448
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:29,680
Speaker 2: all subjective, and I'm sure there's loads of people that's

449
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,399
Speaker 2: really worked for. So narratively, I think the big thing

450
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 2: when we talk about things to tie up, aside from

451
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Speaker 2: potentially a little bit more about the Altars, is Jake Lockley.

452
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,919
Speaker 2: So it is Jake Lockley. In this episode, there is

453
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Speaker 2: a moment in Arthur Harrow's office where Mark or Stephen

454
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 2: wakes up and he's got a slightly heavyer Chicago accent.

455
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 2: He's got a bandage across his nose, and he immediately

456
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 2: goes for violence, and he's like, yeah, I feel great,

457
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 2: well done. Yes, if you're doing a great job. Is

458
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Speaker 2: that Jake Locke? Are we going to find out that

459
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 2: Jake Lockley is that violent alter third altar that's in there? Like,

460
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 2: I think that for people who love Moonnight comics or

461
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:14,639
Speaker 2: love Moonnight as a character, I think that that final

462
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,640
Speaker 2: episode is going to need to lean in a little

463
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 2: bit more to those different iterations because we've had that

464
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 2: emotional Mark and Stephen's story here, even though it does

465
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 2: diverge quite a lot from the comics origin, we've had

466
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:33,360
Speaker 2: that kind of big emotional moment. So what will happen next?

467
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 2: Because Mark is now alone? So does he go after

468
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 2: Coon Shu? Does he unlock another altar? What do you

469
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 2: think it's going to be?

470
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Speaker 1: I suspect that we have not because of the hints

471
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Speaker 1: like the one you just mentioned from Arthur Herro's office,

472
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 1: plus the one that we had discussed from a couple

473
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:56,119
Speaker 1: episodes back where Mark is fighting the Arthur heroes like

474
00:26:56,280 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 1: heavies in Egypt and then all of a sudden he

475
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:05,679
Speaker 1: goes through the switch where usually you would expect Stephen

476
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 1: to take control here, but we just get black and

477
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 1: we don't know who and the henchees have been taken

478
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 1: out and it wasn't Mark and it wasn't Stephen, so

479
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 1: who was it. We've got these hints that there is

480
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 1: another altar waiting to reveal, to be revealed, and I

481
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 1: feel like we're gonna that feels like the other shoe

482
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 1: to drop. All of which is to say, I can't

483
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 1: imagine that we've seen the last of Stephen, Like, no,

484
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:38,360
Speaker 1: I don't know what it means that he quote unquote

485
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 1: died in the sands of Duot and what was pulled under,

486
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:48,199
Speaker 1: but I feel like that altar is still going to

487
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 1: be around. I don't know how they're going to get

488
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,400
Speaker 1: through that or how they're going to work that out,

489
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 1: but it feels like other altars are still waiting to

490
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 1: come out.

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Speaker 2: I think so. And we've talked a lot about the

492
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,360
Speaker 2: Jeff Lamir Greg small Wood stuff, which is like Moon

493
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 2: Night volume eight, and that stuff definitely deals with this

494
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 2: concept of how do how does Mark come to a

495
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:18,120
Speaker 2: piece that accepts who he is? And that could be

496
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 2: who he is alone or it could be who he

497
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 2: is with the Altars, and seeing as they established this

498
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 2: notion that each of the Altars has a different suit,

499
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 2: I feel like that might turn into more of a

500
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 2: classical superpower in the future where it's like the older

501
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 2: Moonnight comics where he slips in and out. And while

502
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 2: that is not a realistic representation you know of did

503
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 2: I think that they put their effort into doing this

504
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 2: emotional episode this week and we might kind of see

505
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 2: how Mark and Moonnight transcend. It feels like a lot

506
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 2: to wrap up in a final episode, so I wonder

507
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 2: if this is going to be a low key where

508
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 2: they just announce a second season.

509
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it feels like a tremendous amount to wrap up.

510
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 1: A producer saw a super producer, Saul in the chat mentions,

511
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 1: how would they manage any Egyptology without Steven? I think

512
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 1: that's a good point. We still have such a good point. Yeah,

513
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 1: we still have Arthur harrow And and the Amint crisis

514
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 1: to deal with. You know, are there Harrows up there? Yeah?

515
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 1: Are their heroes up there legitimately like reigning souls down

516
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 1: into the afterlife before their time. So that has to

517
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 1: be dealt with, and Mark with just his knowledge is

518
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 1: not going to be up to it now in a

519
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 1: post field of reads, uh like reality is Mark slash

520
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 1: Stephens slash potentially Jake. Are they just like more much

521
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 1: like the comic books. They They're still there, those memories

522
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 1: are still there, those personalities quote unquote are still there

523
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 1: in some kind of form of fashion. But the the

524
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 1: the the demarcations between them are more amorphous, and they're

525
00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 1: more more I mean, we legitimately saw a balancing of scales.

526
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 1: Maybe they reside together in a more more or less

527
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 1: healthy quote unquote way. Is that what we see going forward?

528
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 2: I think we could definitely see that, And I think

529
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 2: that it will be really interesting to see the way

530
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 2: they approach it because this is something that comics and

531
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 2: superho shows have done before, like Legion and you know,

532
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 2: Doom Patrol really focused on it with Jane. So I'm

533
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 2: really interested to see because I feel like they've established

534
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 2: little things here that make you think you're gonna need

535
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 2: to see these characters again, one being that Stephen is

536
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 2: like a lot of people's favorite character. Yeah, and somebody

537
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 2: that they connected with as their in character and who

538
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 2: they feel represented by is kind of like a guy

539
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 2: just trying to do the best in his life. So

540
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 2: I think for him to never be there again and

541
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 2: for it to just be kind of cold hearted, I'm

542
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 2: gonna shoot some people, Mark. That doesn't seem likely to me.

543
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And quick couple other questions, how does he get

544
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 1: back to Earth? I mean, it seems like Tara Week

545
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: could just send him like she was not. Her objection

546
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: was like, I would send you back to a body

547
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 1: that is grievously wounded with a bunch of bullets in

548
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: his chest, not I can't do it. So I guess

549
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 1: theoretically wouldn't be that hard. You just have to find

550
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 1: the right god to agree to do it right.

551
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, how experimental is it going to be? Are you

552
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 2: going to get an episode that leans into that small

553
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 2: word lamir stuff where he's suddenly in all the bodies

554
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 2: and he's kind of using them to go through He's

555
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 2: gonna be Jake, He's gonna be this to survive. Is

556
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 2: it just as simple as Tarawet sending him back? She's

557
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 2: the goddess of children, of protection of fertility. Maybe she

558
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 2: can help because the scales are balanced now. Maybe Arthur

559
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 2: harrib will bring him back, like in some kind of

560
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 2: joke of Batman situation where he needs Mark to see

561
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 2: that he won to see the truth of Konshu. You know,

562
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 2: we saw Layla's dad wearing the scarlet scarab robe. There's

563
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 2: a chance that Layla with the scarab or a different

564
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 2: kind of artifact has the power to bring Mark. I

565
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 2: think from the pacing of this episode, we'll probably be

566
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:07,719
Speaker 2: boom right back in the real world next week.

567
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 1: I think that that is probably the case, And I

568
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 1: guess my my overarching question is like does Moonnight enter,

569
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: like do we get a season two and does he

570
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 1: enter like larger stories, And then as a kind of

571
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: adduct to that, I think we've both become like I'm

572
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: pretty convinced that this is the main MCU, right, this

573
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 1: is this is where this is happening, and they mentioned

574
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 1: in the ancestral plane, plus like some of the other

575
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,959
Speaker 1: the other the gcqques and like other things lead us

576
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 1: to believe that, Okay, this is the regular MCU. Another question,

577
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 1: which I think was like an interesting implication of Tarot

578
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 1: mentioning the ancestral plane, how much do other deities know

579
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 1: about other deities? Like we're going to see in love

580
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 1: and thunder thor going to different places and meeting other gods,

581
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: and meeting the Greek gods. But I wonder how much

582
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 1: they all know about each other.

583
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 2: I wonder if that is the secret seed that Moonnight

584
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 2: is sewing. We've always been wondering, like, is Stephen going

585
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 2: to be in their main mcu is Mark is Moonnight?

586
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 1: Yeah?

587
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 2: Maybe? Probably, maybe not. I don't know. Maybe what they're

588
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 2: really sowing here is more of that god and deity backstory,

589
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 2: those connections between the E and Nad, between bast and

590
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 2: sec Met who became the Panther and Lyon gods in Wakanda,

591
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 2: between Tarawet, between hmit Beteen and Nubis, And then it

592
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 2: seems like it can't be a kind of coincidence that

593
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 2: that is leading quite closely into love and Thunder, where

594
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 2: we're going to meet I feel the same deities. So

595
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 2: maybe that is the bigger picture here, because you know,

596
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 2: it's we love this stuff, which is why we pick

597
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 2: it apart. So obviously the obvious questions are like Arthur

598
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 2: Harrow has a power much bigger than the infinity, gornt right,

599
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 2: and nobody's doing anything.

600
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 1: Nobody's doing where is everybody?

601
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 2: That's always funny to us, but also in the comics.

602
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 2: We know that there are times when someone's doing some

603
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 2: multiversal destruction shenanigans and the only person you send is Hawkeye,

604
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:16,280
Speaker 2: So it happens.

605
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 3: You know.

606
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 1: One of my favorite, one of my favorite things about

607
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 1: Ednie comic book story is like the line in like

608
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: a Wolverine or a Hawkeye or a Capitain America or

609
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 1: a Thor comic where it's like, where are the Avengers. Oh,

610
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 1: they're busy, yeah, right now, It's just like they're dealing

611
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 1: with their own stuff. And then it'll be like, you know,

612
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: a little asterisk see Avengers blah blah blah from Okay.

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Speaker 1: Up next, our friend Cody Zigler joins us and we

614
00:34:44,440 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: talk comics. Okay, folks, we're stepping out of the airlock

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00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 1: and into the comics quarter with our good friend Cody

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Speaker 1: zig Ziggler. Get please pick up Cody Ziggler, Justin Bason

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Speaker 1: and Jim Charlon Pittis's Spider Punk Number one wherever you

618
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Speaker 1: can find it because it's sold out many many places.

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Speaker 1: Super super fun. Cody, thank you for joining us, and

620
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Speaker 1: it's time to talk comics.

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Speaker 3: Man, yes about it.

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00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 1: First of all, have you been what are you going up?

623
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:30,720
Speaker 3: To dude, I've been great. I've been so incredibly busy,

624
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 3: as I'm sure you can tell from my social media post.

625
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 3: I'm good. I'm currently about to finish the season of Futurama,

626
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 3: and I'm almost almost almost about to finish issue five

627
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 3: of Spider Punk. That's right. So as soon as I

628
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 3: get through this little bit of Elden Ring, I'm going

629
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 3: to go to my computer and finish this last issue. Baby.

630
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Speaker 3: That's that.

631
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Speaker 1: We got to know where are you in the ring

632
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 1: right now? What's going on with it? Where are you

633
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 1: in the mission? Are you held?

634
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 3: And Lord yet I am not, but I have dethroned

635
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:08,359
Speaker 3: Margot the fell Key, and so yeah, next, they gotta next.

636
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,399
Speaker 3: I gotta get to go find a giant in the snow.

637
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 3: I don't know everyone is as right now, so do

638
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 3: some grinding to get Let me.

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00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 1: Tell you that the giant no spoilers. That is a fight,

640
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,320
Speaker 1: my friend boy, and and it's one of the fights

641
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 1: where you're fighting the guy and you're like, man, I

642
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 1: feel bad about having to kill this guy, but then

643
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 1: you feel less bad because he just like, whoops your asso.

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Speaker 1: Watch anyway, that's a fun fight. Enjoy that. Let's get

645
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Speaker 1: into the comics. Then uh. The reason that we want

646
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:39,919
Speaker 1: to do this episode one is because we love talking

647
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Speaker 1: about comics. And then two we wanted to uh, so

648
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Speaker 1: we want to talk about the things that we're reading

649
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: right now, the things we really like. And then uh

650
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Speaker 1: and then as a way to prepare people for Doctor

651
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Speaker 1: Strange and the Multiverse, a mantas talk about some of

652
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 1: the Doctor Strange related comics that we think we might

653
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Speaker 1: come up. But first let's talk about what we're reading

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Speaker 1: right now. SI, what do you what do you read

655
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Speaker 1: right now? Man?

656
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 3: I have you can't see, but I have such a

657
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 3: huge stack of stuff. So on to three.

658
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 2: I love this side.

659
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:09,800
Speaker 3: I yelled about this yesterday or the other day on

660
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 3: our pre pro beating But Gleam by Freddy Carrasco is

661
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 3: a book that it picked up a couple of a

662
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 3: couple of months ago, and it's right up my alley.

663
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Speaker 3: I actually haven't been reading a bunch of Cape stuff

664
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Speaker 3: because I've just been in the Cape world for vastly

665
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 3: in the past year. But if you're looking for like

666
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 3: a fantastic like afro futurism, black cyberpunk story, I highly

667
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 3: recommend this. He's a Canadian black Canadian artist who I

668
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 3: think Liz works Japan uh now. But it's a collection

669
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 3: of three vignettes, three short stories, a very very very

670
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 3: loose through line, but it's got some fantastic art, very

671
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 3: very loose from the hip with the actual story. So

672
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 3: like you're looking for like some fantastic like sequential art

673
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,320
Speaker 3: and just following the action and the flow of stuff

674
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 3: and like just really for vibes only. I highly recommend

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Speaker 3: GLEAM g L E e M. Pick it up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that book is unbelievable. And when I have my

677
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 2: first in person meeting with Oliver, our owner who's doing

678
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Speaker 2: the art for my Godzilla comic, that was one of

679
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 2: the best. And he was like, what do you think?

680
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Speaker 1: And I was like, you know, perfect transition to you, Rosie,

681
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Speaker 1: Rosie Knight. First of all, you got to tell us

682
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Speaker 1: about your Guydilla comic. What is going on with the

683
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Speaker 1: Godzilla comic? When can we purchase this comic?

684
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Speaker 2: Okay, so that it is available for pre order now,

685
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 2: it was in this month's catalog. I have got a

686
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 2: link on my Instagram bio where you can go and

687
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 2: get all the information that you can give to your

688
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 2: comic bookshop. If you have a Penguin Random House account.

689
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 2: You can also order it on their website. But you

690
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 2: can just go to your shop and say the name

691
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Speaker 2: of the comic, Oliver that what.

692
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Speaker 1: Is the name of the comic just so we all

693
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Speaker 1: go Mozilla.

694
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Speaker 2: It's called Godzilla Rivals Versus batchra And that is because

695
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:53,280
Speaker 2: it is part of the ongoing Rival series, which features

696
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Speaker 2: stories from the Godzilla movie Monster universe, and they're completely

697
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:01,280
Speaker 2: unconnected to the movies and they're just solo forty page

698
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 2: one short issues. And mine is with Oliver, who's an

699
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 2: astonishing artist who is also inking coloring the whole book,

700
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Speaker 2: and it's really cool. It's like classic Godzilla meets Studio

701
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 2: ghibli Oh hello, yeah, yeah, There's there's an entire page

702
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 2: that's just cooking. There's just there's at least no page.

703
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Speaker 2: Thank you, So you know, I get a spider Punk

704
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:29,479
Speaker 2: every month.

705
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Speaker 1: What is your what's your relationship to Godzilla? Why Godzilla?

706
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Speaker 1: Why this story? Like? What is why we spoke to

707
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Speaker 1: you about Godzilla?

708
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 2: I absolutely love Godzilla. I am sitting currently where I

709
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 2: record my podcast, where this podcast where there is one, two, three, four, five, six, seven,

710
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:52,240
Speaker 2: seven Godzilla figures and a reclining service. I've always loved Godzilla.

711
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:56,240
Speaker 2: I have a baby Godzilla Tatto Manila. I remember watching

712
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 2: them as a kid and here now, like there's so

713
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 2: many brilliant ways to revisit them, whether you're watching them

714
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 2: dubbed on like Comet, or whether you're getting the Criterion versions,

715
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 2: which are incredible. I think the stories that they have

716
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,280
Speaker 2: the same thing we love about comics, where Godzilla comes

717
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 2: from a space of being this incredibly important, personal analogous

718
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 2: story about Japan and nuclear war and the hazards of

719
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,839
Speaker 2: the nuclear bomb. And it has evolved and there's moments

720
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Speaker 2: where it's totally wacky and outrageous, but it always has

721
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 2: this ecological through line which I just think is really powerful,

722
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Speaker 2: and that's a big part of our story. Like it's

723
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Speaker 2: set in England, but it was very much inspired by

724
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Speaker 2: the area I live in on like the coast of

725
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Speaker 2: La La City, and there were just so many sewage

726
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 2: spills here, like months, just every month, just sewage bill,

727
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 2: sewage bill, sewage bill, and it always happens in the

728
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Speaker 2: area which is mostly poor people, mostly black and brown people.

729
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Speaker 2: That's like that environmental kind of racism element. So bring

730
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Speaker 2: in like those elements in and trying to imagine like

731
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Speaker 2: a better world with cool people who wanted to change things,

732
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Speaker 2: but also with like giant monsters. Way, there's lots of

733
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Speaker 2: giant monster I'll ever deliver on the giant monsters.

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Speaker 1: Rosie. What are you reading right now? What is your

735
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: first recommendation for us?

736
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Speaker 2: My first recommendation is this, Really I'm going to go

737
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Speaker 2: I'm going to follow Ziggs lead. I'm gonna go non

738
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Speaker 2: Cape Right now. There is this brilliant independent publisher called

739
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Speaker 2: Black Jose Press, which I just love. I'll read anything

740
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 2: from there, And they published this unbelievable collection of queer

741
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 2: erotic comics called Arrive in My Hands. And even if

742
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,839
Speaker 2: you're like, oh, erotic, that sounds a bit, no, it's

743
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:43,280
Speaker 2: like the most beautiful, poetic, stunning work by Trinidad Escobar.

744
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 2: And I pre ordered the physical copies, which I think

745
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 2: will be available soon, but there's a PDF version that's available.

746
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 2: I just keep looking at it. It's like one of

747
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 2: those things where every time you look at it, you

748
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 2: explore something new, and it feels really transgressive and relatable

749
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 2: and beautiful and kind of thing where I'm just I'm

750
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 2: so excited to show it to people and just be like,

751
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 2: do you know people are making comics like this, Like

752
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 2: this is what you can be enjoying alongside the monster's

753
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 2: fighting and the superheroes and everything. You can get these

754
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 2: really personal, beautiful comics made by brilliant, marginalized creators. And

755
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 2: Black Jose Press just does non stop publications like that.

756
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Speaker 2: It's one of my favorite publishers, and this book was

757
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 2: just like it. Even I have high expectations of that publisher,

758
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 2: but it totally overwhelmed them. I just that book is

759
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 2: so good, so ten out of ten recommendations.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's awesome. I will go Cape because I've been

761
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 1: keeping the last couple of weeks to bone up for

762
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 1: movies and stuff they're coming out. And I was a

763
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,359
Speaker 1: full disclosure, never much of a Hulk person when I

764
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 1: first started reading comics. And despite the fact that like

765
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 1: there was some really really you know mister fix It

766
00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: era classic kind of like classic like Kulk's stories at

767
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 1: that time, love the pin suit, but I just was

768
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: never much of a Hulk person, Like I'd check in

769
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 1: for the big events World War Hulk, you know, Planet Hulk,

770
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Speaker 1: et cetera. Those are of course good, but I was

771
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Speaker 1: never like a I'm reading the Hulk now Immortal Hulk

772
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 1: changed turned my head a lot in ways that I

773
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 1: was not expecting. And the ongoing series, The Hulk series

774
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 1: by Donnie Kate's Ryan Otley, Cliff Rathburn and Frank Martin

775
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 1: is really good and really interesting and takes you know,

776
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 1: it's always like, how do we redefine the relationship between

777
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,720
Speaker 1: Bruce Banner and the Hulk? You know, it's constantly changing.

778
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: How do we how do we make it new and fresh?

779
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Speaker 1: And this time it's Bruce Banner is both like the

780
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: main character kind of the bad guy, which is I

781
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 1: guess happened for a while, but he has turned the

782
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 1: Hulk into like a pilotable like battle like buy a

783
00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:00,360
Speaker 1: battleship that like a like a mech suit that he

784
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 1: is sitting like deep inside the psyche of the Hulk,

785
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 1: piloting this Hulk around and having crazy fights and crazy

786
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 1: adventure is really really good and really interesting. The art

787
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Speaker 1: is fantastic.

788
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Speaker 2: I was gonna say, Ryan Otley r Ryley onto that

789
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 2: big two stuff is just.

790
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Speaker 1: Like it's just like so gnarly and like biological and

791
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 1: and and the textures that he that he brings out

792
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 1: are fantastic it's it's great and as a person who

793
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 1: again has never really been much of a Hulk person,

794
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 1: just like straight up throughout the course of my comics

795
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 1: reading life, has never been much of a Hulk person

796
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Speaker 1: until recently. I'm really enjoying this book quite a bit.

797
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 3: You said, you say, met Hulk, I'm already in, like.

798
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:50,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, back to you. Zig. What else?

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Speaker 3: This is another non Cape comic, but Mark Ballast by E. P.

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Speaker 4: H K.

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Speaker 3: It's a it's viewers or listeners can't see this, but

802
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:00,839
Speaker 3: it's a.

803
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 2: It's a every dime.

804
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 3: Yeah. It's a quote unquote silent comic in that there's words,

805
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 3: but it's all gibberish and it's just following a two

806
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 3: fighter pilots that are fighting over Mars and they shoot

807
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 3: each other down. They just you know, it's like an

808
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 3: enemy mind situation where they help each other out. But

809
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 3: if you're looking for some really really he's a He

810
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 3: is a French artist, and if you're looking for some

811
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 3: truly some of the most vivid, sequential art and just

812
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 3: storytelling out right now, I highly recommend this. It's a

813
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,720
Speaker 3: it's a pocket sized graphic novel, one hundred and twenty

814
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 3: pages and it has like the use of like red

815
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 3: and orange is fantastic, Like it flows together. There's some

816
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 3: really really interesting panel layouts and uh just the use

817
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 3: of like language and in using a non language to

818
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 3: convey emotion and like some fantastic and acting with the drawing,

819
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 3: like check out Mars Mars Ballast by E. P.

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00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 1: H K Shouts to the Enemy mind Drop, which is

821
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:05,359
Speaker 1: really like forgotten sci fi movie from the eighties star Gym,

822
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 1: starring Dennis Quaid and Lewis Gossa Junior as too uh

823
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 1: you know, uh, two fighter islots from from opposing warring

824
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:18,240
Speaker 1: factions humans versus I forget the name of the alien species.

825
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 1: But they then crash land on a desolate planet and

826
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 1: have to like learn to live together. And it is

827
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 1: like a heartbreaking story.

828
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd never seen it until it was on broadcast

829
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,359
Speaker 2: a couple of years ago, hair and I was just like, oh,

830
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 2: my fucking god, and how has nobody told me about man?

831
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:38,320
Speaker 1: It is like, I'm not even fucking around. Lou Gassa

832
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: Junior should have been Oscar nominated for that fucking role.

833
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 1: I'm not even I'm not joking. It is not a

834
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 1: fucking joke. Like in full makeup that must have taken

835
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Speaker 1: hours and hours to get into. He is fully emotive,

836
00:46:55,680 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 1: like breaks your heart in a million fucking ways. He

837
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 1: should have been Oscar Nomen. It's an incredible movie. Find

838
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 1: it if you can. Great movie. Enemy Mine, Rosie up

839
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 1: next for you.

840
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, you flipped me. I was gonna do a

841
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 2: different I'll do this one later, but I'll do one

842
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 2: now because just talking about like really weird, deep sci fi.

843
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 3: So I.

844
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 2: Was revisiting Umbrella Academy in the lead up to the

845
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 2: third series and I read Hotel Oblivion again, which was

846
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 2: the third volume which came out like eight years after

847
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 2: the second volume, written by Jared Way with his collaborator

848
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 2: artist Gabriel Barr, who is just so unreal. And if

849
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 2: you want to get prepared for the third season introduction

850
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 2: of the mysterious Sparrow Academy kind of then it's a

851
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 2: great thing to read. But if you just want to

852
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:50,800
Speaker 2: read a really weird experimental sci fi comic which takes

853
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 2: place in these two it's like some people are trapped

854
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 2: in this hotel. Is it really a hotel? Is it

855
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 2: like a cosmic kind of void like you? And it's

856
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 2: just Gabriel's art is so good, and so much of

857
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 2: Umbrella Academy is like the creative team's love for the

858
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 2: X Men and for these stories. This volume is is

859
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 2: not really that this volume is balls to the wall bonkers,

860
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 2: n I mean, Gabriel's art is like he is just

861
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:22,320
Speaker 2: a star, Like everything that he does is just beautiful.

862
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 2: But like I was so blown away rereading that book.

863
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:30,280
Speaker 2: I was just like, this is like no other superhero comic.

864
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 2: You know, it's Cape comics, but it's not. And that

865
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 2: is just it's such a great read anyway, and it's

866
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:39,959
Speaker 2: just a really easy volume and there's so much fun

867
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 2: to be had. But also if you're if you're excited

868
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 2: about the new season or you want a primer, it

869
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 2: works on that level as well. But I was I

870
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 2: read it for that reason. Then I was just like,

871
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,320
Speaker 2: this is so weird in the best way. It really

872
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 2: delivered on what you want from that kind of Umbrella

873
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 2: Academy stance. It was.

874
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:59,359
Speaker 1: It was great what I think Gerard Way might have

875
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 1: the coolest can act like of people that I can

876
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:06,359
Speaker 1: think of in terms of like going into a completely

877
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:09,840
Speaker 1: different lane and being really good at it. Of course,

878
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 1: like is the as the lead vocalist of My Chemical

879
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 1: Romance was extremely influential. But like the flip to to

880
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 1: comics and Umbrella Academy, I remember at the time being like,

881
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 1: let's see and then being like, oh fuck, this is

882
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 1: good shit.

883
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 3: Twice Yeah, motherfucker.

884
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 2: His story arc is so unbelievable as well, because he

885
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 2: was like a Vertigo intern as a teenager, and it

886
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 2: was like, is this gonna work?

887
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 1: Is?

888
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 2: And Okay, now I'll go and start like the most

889
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 2: famous emo like stadium rock band of you know, the decade.

890
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 2: But I'm staying friends with Jim Lee who loves this

891
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 2: kind of music. And then kind of somehow you end

892
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 2: up in this space where you create like one of

893
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 2: not only one of the most successful indie comics, but

894
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 2: then it becomes one of the biggest Netflix originals. I

895
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:01,359
Speaker 2: know so many people who love Umbrella Academy who've never

896
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:04,280
Speaker 2: read a comic. Yeah, yeah, they just love the show.

897
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 2: It is a true crossover success in that way.

898
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 1: When we're back more comics Corner, We're back, So I'm

899
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 1: gonna go listen. I've been on my I'm gonna go

900
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 1: Cape again. I've been on my X Men slash Mutant

901
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 1: thing as they are transitioning into the Immortal X Men

902
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:29,919
Speaker 1: slash x Men. Red Phase shouts at what a come

903
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 1: up for my mutant family. They were on the Village

904
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 1: of Extinction. There was like less than two hundred of

905
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 1: them left. Now they're colonizing Mars. It's look at us

906
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 1: now we'd be here and kind of against all odds.

907
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's true. My favorite, I love

908
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 1: my X Men, but kind of my favorite, like ongoing

909
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 1: X solo title has been Marauders, like the whole time,

910
00:50:53,400 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 1: so Steve Orlando, Eleonora Carlini, Matt Miller or They have

911
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 1: just released Marauders number one. It's kind of like a

912
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 1: reboot of the ongoing Marauders title and it's super fun.

913
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,400
Speaker 1: I'm enjoying spending the time on the high seas with

914
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 1: Don't Call Her Kitty, Catherine Pride, Lockheed and the rest

915
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 1: of the Pirate crew, sailing from nation to nation, making

916
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 1: sure that Mutants can go to Krakoa if they so

917
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:25,360
Speaker 1: wish to do so. It's been really fun. Lots of

918
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:31,320
Speaker 1: fun shenanigans with with you know, the the Black King Shaw,

919
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 1: lots of stuff going on. It's if you want to

920
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 1: get into like an X book that is not so

921
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 1: wrapped up in a lot of the ongoing like ex Politics,

922
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 1: and it's kind of like, in my my read of

923
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 1: it is kind of like the easiest to follow one.

924
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:51,359
Speaker 1: Like if you want to drop into the X world

925
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh my god, do I have to

926
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 1: do like House of X and donno X and all

927
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 1: that stuff and get here, yes and no, and you

928
00:51:58,480 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 1: just want to pick it up and see what's going on.

929
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 1: I would Marauder's Number one is a great place to

930
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 1: get on, and the previous Marauders ongoing before the renumber

931
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 1: was just super straightforward, really fun, just like Mutants on

932
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:14,359
Speaker 1: the High Seas I think.

933
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:16,319
Speaker 2: I think like one of the best things about the

934
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 2: X titles at the moment is like their additive so

935
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 2: you can read an X book and really enjoy it,

936
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:24,879
Speaker 2: but like if you've read every other X book, you're

937
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 2: going to find even more to dig into and enjoy,

938
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:28,839
Speaker 2: so you can find the one you like, whether it's

939
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 2: Hellians or Marauders and more X men. I thought it

940
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 2: was brilliant the first issue, like and then if you've

941
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 2: read it, you get in jokes and bits, but otherwise,

942
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,359
Speaker 2: like you can go back and add more onto it,

943
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 2: and it kind of works in this lateral way that

944
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 2: I think is really cool for a wide line of comics.

945
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 1: Shouts to mister Sinister going evil once again. He's been

946
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:54,240
Speaker 1: played for laughs in Hells. I like he stayed sasy.

947
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:56,800
Speaker 2: He's more a X Man. He's been eight sassy.

948
00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:00,360
Speaker 1: He's been incredibly sassy over the last year. To have

949
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 1: two years and now in a moral X Men, my

950
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 1: guys taking the keeltering but still still snapping on people.

951
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 2: I love that fast issue of a Mortal X Men

952
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 2: has one of my all time recent fave lettering uses

953
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 2: where they I think it's Clayton calculates that book, but

954
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 2: I'll double check, but he goes he does like a what,

955
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:26,359
Speaker 2: and the what is like just huge. But when you

956
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 2: read it in the context of the joke where he's

957
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 2: trying to act surprised and at the bottom it says like,

958
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 2: was that too much? It's so funny. I've reread it

959
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:36,799
Speaker 2: multiple times and it's made me laugh out loud, like

960
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 2: the we all know this, And we talked about Tom

961
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 2: Miller's amazing production design, but the intricacies and detail and

962
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 2: of quality that they're putting in every level on those

963
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 2: books is very good.

964
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 3: Zigurre up all right, So I'm off my art shit

965
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 3: and onto a more traditional comic, A Righteous Thirst from

966
00:53:55,840 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 3: Vengeance out of Are a nice slow burn act thriller comic.

967
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 3: I highly recommend if you're a fan of like A

968
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 3: History of Violence or Green Room or Blue Ruin, like

969
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 3: those who are like Grady grounded, also bizarrely hyper violent

970
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 3: action thrillers, I highly recommend uh a Thirst for for

971
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:21,799
Speaker 3: a Righteous for Vengeance. And also I defy you to

972
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 3: read this and not picture Benedict Wang as the lead

973
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:32,399
Speaker 3: the cover, it's.

974
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, uh Rosie, Yeah, I'm gonna go there.

975
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 2: I'm gonna the other direction. If you've read A Righteous

976
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:42,720
Speaker 2: Best Vengeance and you're like, I need something really chill,

977
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 2: slice a watch one of my favorite comics of all

978
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:52,399
Speaker 2: time and probably my favorite living cartoonist, Ramiko Takahashi, who

979
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:56,320
Speaker 2: is behind any Yasha Lum basically any favorite anime or

980
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 2: manga that you read as a teen. Uh Ramiko was

981
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 2: probably behind it. And she has this unbelievable slice of

982
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:05,400
Speaker 2: life book called Maison a Cuckoo that's about a young

983
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 2: widow who takes over an eclectic boarding house and it

984
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:15,800
Speaker 2: is like the funniest, sauciest, silliest slapstick. Every single page

985
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 2: there's something that will make you want to get a

986
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:18,360
Speaker 2: tattoo because.

987
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 1: Romiko is stunning, dangerous.

988
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 2: She's stunning like figure work and watercolors, and they and

989
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 2: Viz is currently doing beautiful reprints. I think they're up

990
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:32,319
Speaker 2: to volume seven now. But she's also really good at

991
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 2: a gag face. So if you love like Sailor Moon

992
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:37,359
Speaker 2: and you love when in the back you see like

993
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 2: they got the little silly gagfaces, Remiko just has that

994
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 2: down pat It's it's a romance. It's really thoughtful about grief.

995
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:47,759
Speaker 2: But it's also like Romiko is a very saucy cartoonist,

996
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:50,319
Speaker 2: like she created Lum, who is like this sexy blue

997
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:54,399
Speaker 2: headed alien with the leopard print bikini. There's just there's

998
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 2: so much fun to be had. And this is like

999
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:58,840
Speaker 2: the vis reprints that they're doing of this a bunch

1000
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 2: of other Romiko stuff. If they did Mermaids Saga, they're

1001
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:03,320
Speaker 2: also doing Fist in the North Star ones that are beautiful.

1002
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:05,840
Speaker 2: They're the kind of books that make you want to

1003
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 2: reread them, Like the versions they're doing are so beautiful.

1004
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,400
Speaker 2: So yeah, Maison a Cuckoo. I love this comic. I

1005
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 2: want everyone to read it. I want vis to re

1006
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:19,239
Speaker 2: release the live action eighties adaptation series that they made

1007
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 2: of it, which has never been re released. I need

1008
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 2: to see that, so everyone's go and read this. So

1009
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 2: visual we'll publish that.

1010
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 3: Every time we do. We need these episodes. My bank

1011
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 3: account is just the same thing. Pain.

1012
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 1: I know, it's pain, dude, same for me. Okay, uh my,

1013
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 1: this is really hard. But so I've been uh I've

1014
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:45,240
Speaker 1: been very active on my Marvel Unlimited, digging through the stacks.

1015
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 1: I've been reading a lot of West Coast Avengers just

1016
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 1: to you know, catch the vibe and remember what that

1017
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 1: was like. And they recently released all of the X

1018
00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 1: Deaths of Wolverine series on there, and you know what,

1019
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 1: as a as a recovering Wolverine, loganhead was a huge look.

1020
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 1: You know. I was like, as a kid, that was it.

1021
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 1: I was a loganhead. I'd run around and wonder, man,

1022
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 1: what would be how cool would it be to have

1023
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 1: like little metal claws come out of my knuckles and

1024
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 1: like have every time? The best there is at what

1025
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 1: I do. But what I do is very nice and

1026
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 1: it's read comics all the time. I think that, uh,

1027
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 1: Excess Wolverine is super fun. It's super fun. It's like, uh,

1028
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 1: it's again a kind of thing that gives you a

1029
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 1: lot of sprinklings of ongoing events, uh you know, post

1030
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 1: Kracoa events in Mutantom, But it's a Wolverine story that

1031
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 1: takes you on a kind of time traveling and a

1032
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 1: swashbuckling tour of Wolverine's life as heat. Uh. It's like

1033
00:57:56,120 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 1: basically Terminator Wolverine goes back through the timeline trying to

1034
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 1: stop Omega Red from killing Professor X sometime in the past,

1035
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 1: and it happens. It happens all the time. It happens,

1036
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 1: It happens the best. Yeah, and Omega Red has developed

1037
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 1: this new thing where he can, you know, touch someone

1038
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 1: and basically possess them, which is a problem. And so

1039
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 1: Wolverine's got to go back through his old bodies. Now

1040
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 1: he's young Wolverine. Now he's patched. Now he's a different

1041
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 1: version of Now he's WEAPONEX Wolverine. Now he's Wolverine, Uh,

1042
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 1: you know, lurking in the Central American jungles with Sabertooth

1043
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 1: and that other weird guy he used to hang around

1044
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 1: with Maverick. Uh, and I gotta tell you, I'm having

1045
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 1: a good time. I'm having a good time reading it.

1046
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 1: I don't know what to tell you that that has

1047
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 1: been our comics recommendations. Let's dive into stuff that we

1048
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 1: think might be useful for people to talk about to read.

1049
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:57,959
Speaker 1: As Doctor Strange approaches. First one on this list, which

1050
00:58:58,040 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 1: Rosie and I were talking about, I wonder if you've

1051
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 1: read it. Zig is Doctor Strange, Doctor Doom Triumphant Torment

1052
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 1: written by Rogers Stern with pencils and covers by Mike

1053
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 1: Magnola and Mark Badger. And it's like what Mike Manola

1054
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 1: doing Doctor Strange and Doctor I love it. And it's

1055
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 1: a great one shot story that really lets you into

1056
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:23,439
Speaker 1: how thirsty Doctor Doom is from magic man.

1057
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 2: This guy he loves.

1058
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 1: Tempting the magic. He loves going over the line with

1059
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:36,959
Speaker 1: like if you thought Doctor Strange pushed it with the spells,

1060
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 1: with the crossing the line with the like books he

1061
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:41,320
Speaker 1: shouldn't read, but he's gonna go ahead and read. The

1062
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 1: Doctor Doom is even more that.

1063
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:45,880
Speaker 4: Uh.

1064
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 1: And you know Mignola is Mgnola. It's super fun. Uh.

1065
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 1: Mephisto is there that is that would be my first

1066
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 1: recommendation for something that is like easily easy to pick up.

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Speaker 1: You don't need to know a lot if you wanted

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Speaker 1: to pick it up and read it. Any of y'all

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Speaker 1: have any any any recommendations along or sides, I've got one.

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Speaker 2: But another thing I think is really good about that

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01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:12,120
Speaker 2: piece is like it really specifically centers on like doctor

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Speaker 2: Doom's mom, which is like a weird thing they were

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01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 2: obsessed with in the eighties and nineties because in some

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01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 2: of the Moonlight stuff where shot Horror dodtr Doom appears

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Speaker 2: it's all to do with his mom, Like this guy

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01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 2: has mother issues and they were being explored. So who

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Speaker 2: knows is that going to come into it in them? See,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but it seems interesting and connected. So

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Speaker 2: first of all, as well, I always think it's so

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Speaker 2: funny when you, even as people have been reading these

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01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 2: comics however long like decades or whatever, whenever we find

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01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:43,040
Speaker 2: a might make know the Big Two comics, they're like.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, he did, like, okay, pick it up.

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01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like it's happening, but I'm going to go newer.

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Speaker 1: Yeah I was.

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Speaker 2: I've kind of read like the first issue of this series,

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Speaker 2: the Death of Doctor Strange, but I recently read the

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Speaker 2: whole thing. The five issue collection is at now Jeff McKay.

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Speaker 2: Pencils by legue Ar, but Curry Andrews does great covers.

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Speaker 2: This is like such a fun book. The idea is

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Speaker 2: like Doctor Strange is gonna die. He gets killed? Who

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01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:19,640
Speaker 2: did it? And he gets to kind of like we

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01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:23,120
Speaker 2: have to work out what happened? And it's timey wimy

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01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 2: r is like so beautiful, cartoony and beautiful and fun,

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01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:33,160
Speaker 2: and there's like cute animal characters and I feel like,

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Speaker 2: you know, zig no comment from you here inside business. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I feel like one of my favorite things talk about

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Speaker 2: is how Marvel Seed stuff is very they want people

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Speaker 2: to necessarily conceptualize or come to terms with, or become

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Speaker 2: familiar with. And this feels like one of those comics

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Speaker 2: where I'm like, one, it's a fun superhero romp, but two,

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01:01:56,400 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 2: have a read Doctor Strange, you might be happy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I definitely feel that same way, whether or not

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01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 3: that's what the book that I'm currently writing, I think

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01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:11,680
Speaker 3: that's also the same energy, right, Yeah, And also Jet's

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Speaker 3: a fantastic, fantastic writer.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this book is so fun.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's such a fucking fun fun writer.

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Speaker 1: Should add one of the I think one of the

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Speaker 1: things that really felt like, oh we're seeing this is

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01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:25,960
Speaker 1: so part of this is not a spoiler, but you

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Speaker 1: know Doctor Strange's murder, who did it? And of course

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Speaker 1: Doctor Strange has a uh, you know protocol in place

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Speaker 1: should he die by means, and that protocol is to

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Speaker 1: like activate an earlier, much more aggressive, much more line

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01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:46,640
Speaker 1: steppy version of himself, pluck that version out of whatever

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01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:48,800
Speaker 1: timeline is in and bring them, bring them to the

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Speaker 1: present to figure it out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, did he like a shlock? He asks, yes, like experience.

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Speaker 2: So then let's just say, seems like could be influential.

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Speaker 1: I feel that it could be. Did you have anything?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I was really torn, but I think I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: go with Hickman's New Avengers run time time runs out. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean I think anyone could tell from the trailers

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Speaker 3: that the ILLUMINAI is going to be in this, and

1126
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:14,760
Speaker 3: like that Illuminati is such a big part of Doctor

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Speaker 3: Strange's current origin, at least as modern with the last

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Speaker 3: ten years origin. And if you're really looking for like

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Speaker 3: just a really fun four issue runs like or five

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01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:26,800
Speaker 3: issue run to jump in. I think it's it's sixteen

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Speaker 3: through twenty one of Hickman's New Avengers. I introduces one

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01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:32,800
Speaker 3: of my absolute favorite characters, Son God. He's just a

1133
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 3: Superman pastiche there's a fantastic fight between him and Hulk

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Speaker 3: that when I was read it, when I was like,

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01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 3: twenty seven was the hypest shit I ever read, and

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01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:43,240
Speaker 3: twenty seven and I was turning up, I was quoting it.

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Speaker 3: I had the pictures of my tumbler like I was

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Speaker 3: taking scanning them alone. There. It's a really great entry

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Speaker 3: for that, and I'm I'm just from the trailer. I'm

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Speaker 3: assuming they're gonna be doing some fun Illuminati underhandedness, and

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01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:55,880
Speaker 3: I hope that they get some fun, big, big action

1142
01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:57,080
Speaker 3: fight scenes like that in there.

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Speaker 1: That is I think a monumental run. Great no, And

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Speaker 1: I think it.

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Speaker 2: Makes a lot of sense because it leads into like

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01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:05,320
Speaker 2: one of the things that we talk about a lot

1147
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:07,640
Speaker 2: with your Secret Wars and how that seems like the

1148
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:10,960
Speaker 2: future of the MCU, and and there's doctor Doom elements,

1149
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:12,800
Speaker 2: you know, God Doom, all that kind of stuff. So

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01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:14,800
Speaker 2: I think I think that's a brilliant pick and also

1151
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:15,240
Speaker 2: just fun.

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01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:18,720
Speaker 1: One of my favorite parts of that Time runs out

1153
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:22,880
Speaker 1: Run is the war between Atlantis and Wakanda, which feels

1154
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:26,440
Speaker 1: like feels like feeding something you need to, you need

1155
01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:29,080
Speaker 1: to pay attention to, and that was a thing that

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01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:33,960
Speaker 1: absolutely grabbed me by the collar when I was reading. Oh,

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01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:37,480
Speaker 1: some of the twists and turns in that, like ongoing Struggle,

1158
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:42,680
Speaker 1: are like, man, you can't believe what happens. Great, great,

1159
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 1: great run. I will pick a house of m for mine.

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Speaker 1: The two thousand and five limited series Brian Michael Bendis,

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01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:58,320
Speaker 1: pencils by the Great Oliver Corpel, covers by the Great

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01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:03,120
Speaker 1: east Side, Ribbitch, and eight Core issues you can stick

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01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:05,880
Speaker 1: to those, but there are lots of tie ins that

1164
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:09,120
Speaker 1: spread out, you know, across different titles. But the basic

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01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:18,400
Speaker 1: plot is Wanda is just so heartsick over the struggles

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01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:21,440
Speaker 1: that mutants have had to go through over the generations

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01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:26,080
Speaker 1: and the years, and them being oppressed and and through

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01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:29,640
Speaker 1: fits and starts, like all the attempted genocides that have

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Speaker 1: happened over the course of time, and she's like, forget it,

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01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:38,400
Speaker 1: that's enough. I want to please my mutant family. Magneto

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01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:41,920
Speaker 1: and Quicksilver and I want to I want to heal

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01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:44,800
Speaker 1: a mutantom, and so I'm going to create a world

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01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:51,320
Speaker 1: in which mutants reign. Mutants are the main force in

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Speaker 1: the world, and there are like non powered people, but

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01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:59,000
Speaker 1: they're they're a vast minority, and mutants run the world.

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Speaker 1: And I feel like this is gonna be you know,

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Speaker 1: we've talked about it before on this pod, but I

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01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:10,360
Speaker 1: feel like, up it comes up a lot, right, and

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01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:12,560
Speaker 1: it feels like, listen, we're waiting for mutants to come

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01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:16,360
Speaker 1: into the MCU. Wanda is growing more and more powerful

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01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:18,360
Speaker 1: with the ability, as we have seen over the course

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01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:22,720
Speaker 1: of Wanna Vision to alter reality and really like the

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01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:26,800
Speaker 1: drastic ways. And we know that the at least some

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Speaker 1: part of Doctor Strange and the Multiverse Amandas involves Strange

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01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:35,000
Speaker 1: going to a place where other powered people exist, which

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Speaker 1: is how we get America Shavas. And we also know that, like, man,

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Speaker 1: you hear the voice of Patrick Stewart in that fucking trailer.

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Speaker 3: He was basically saying, you makes them with magic. It

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Speaker 3: like it's really hard. You could not distinguish. There's no

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Speaker 3: high knew that was.

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01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:53,840
Speaker 1: And so it's a really really fun story. I highly

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01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:56,640
Speaker 1: recommend it my guy Wolverine. Again, if you're a Wolverine head,

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01:06:56,680 --> 01:06:58,720
Speaker 1: he does some he makes some things happen in this

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Speaker 1: and some stuff.

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Speaker 2: That man has a memory.

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01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:07,480
Speaker 1: He always like when it's just like normal life, he

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01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:09,680
Speaker 1: can't remember anything about what he used to do, But

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01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:13,680
Speaker 1: when he gets transported to another like timelized dimension, all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, he can't forget what happened in the

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Speaker 1: previous world anyway. Uh, and Rosie, you have anything else?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I got one more. But I also just want

1202
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:26,120
Speaker 2: to say, like, this leads to my favorite theory that

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01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:28,680
Speaker 2: I I It like pops up every soft and on Reddit,

1204
01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:31,760
Speaker 2: I've seen it on TikTok, which is the MCU as

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01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:36,040
Speaker 2: it exists, is the No More Mutants universe. I just

1206
01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:40,160
Speaker 2: wonder creating the House of M. I love that it's

1207
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:43,120
Speaker 2: never gonna happen. Every time I think about it, I

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01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:45,720
Speaker 2: am just like that is so efficient and it is

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01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:48,720
Speaker 2: so effective. And you know, I think the trailer where

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Speaker 2: we see Charles and everyone and he says, you know,

1211
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Speaker 2: it's time to tell him the truth. Oh the truth

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Speaker 2: is you know mutants exist outside this world, and uh, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think House of M. Like there's so much stuff

1214
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Speaker 2: there because people get to live their dream lives, like

1215
01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:07,000
Speaker 2: Peter is happy, and then you have this choice of

1216
01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:08,160
Speaker 2: like having to give it up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think another really good one, which is really new,

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01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:20,680
Speaker 2: is Captain Carter. Jamie McKelvey, Icondriga Cresta newer artists on

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01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:24,880
Speaker 2: that doing some really dynamic stuff. And if you enjoyed

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01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:27,080
Speaker 2: the first issue episode of What If If you want

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01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:29,720
Speaker 2: to know more about Captain Carter, who we think is

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01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:33,120
Speaker 2: probably going to show up in Doctor Strange Too, then

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Speaker 2: this is a great place to go. It's got political intrigue,

1225
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:40,759
Speaker 2: it's got anti fascist tendencies, It's got really really really

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Speaker 2: really really cool character work for Captain Carter. It introduces

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Speaker 2: a different version of Peggy that we've never seen. And

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Speaker 2: I think this is again seeding. Do I think they're

1229
01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:54,559
Speaker 2: going to adapt Jamie's story? I wish they would probably

1230
01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:56,760
Speaker 2: not gonna happen. But is there a reason that there's

1231
01:08:56,760 --> 01:08:58,960
Speaker 2: a Captain Carter comic that you can buy right now

1232
01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:02,680
Speaker 2: that's going to be out during Strange Too? I believe so.

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01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:04,439
Speaker 2: So Yeah, this is a this is a really good one.

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Speaker 3: Zig Uh, you know, last one. I'm glad that no

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01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:13,640
Speaker 3: one else covered it but Marvel Zombies. Was it was

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01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:16,719
Speaker 3: between this and World War Hocus what got me into

1237
01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:19,600
Speaker 3: Marvel comics proper. Like I was a cute obwously it

1238
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:21,840
Speaker 3: was a huge Walking Dead fan. I was a huge

1239
01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:25,479
Speaker 3: horror fan in general. But Marvel Zombies, I mean they've

1240
01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:27,519
Speaker 3: already don the what if episode, and I feel like

1241
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:30,360
Speaker 3: it seems such a fun universe for Marvel to tap

1242
01:09:30,360 --> 01:09:32,280
Speaker 3: into in the live action space, Like it would be

1243
01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:34,519
Speaker 3: crazy if you don't just see like zombie Wanda for like,

1244
01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:36,800
Speaker 3: you know, a split second, like Marvel you know, Change

1245
01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:38,240
Speaker 3: does his gang signs and you see your pop up

1246
01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:39,760
Speaker 3: in the back corner or whatever we see.

1247
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Speaker 2: It is strange and this is Sam Raimi, this is

1248
01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:48,400
Speaker 2: the Zombies, Like, yeah, that's a run. That's a killer.

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Speaker 1: I absolutely love these res I hope they are helpful

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01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:55,840
Speaker 1: to people. Check out the show notes for any of

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01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:57,719
Speaker 1: the stuff that you missed to the run of the show.

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Speaker 1: We'll have everything listed there. Up next nerd Out. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: today's nerd Out, where you tell us what you love

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Speaker 1: and why. Alice pitches us on a musical theater company

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01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:15,600
Speaker 1: called Star Kid Production's aka Team stark it.

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Speaker 2: Hi x Ray Vision Team.

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Speaker 5: My name is Alice and from my nerd out, I

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Speaker 5: would like to submit a musical theater company called Starkt

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01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:27,720
Speaker 5: Productions or better known as Team star Kid. So I

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01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:31,080
Speaker 5: discovered Team Starkit over ten years ago through another fandom

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01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:33,240
Speaker 5: that I was in, which was for the TV show Plea,

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01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:36,040
Speaker 5: and when it was announced that Darren Chris would be

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Speaker 5: joining the show, I decided to check out his previous

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Speaker 5: work and I stumbled onto Team stark It because it

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Speaker 5: was also a huge Harry Potter fan. The first thing

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Speaker 5: I watched was there Harry Potter parody, which was a

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Speaker 5: very Potter musical, and I completely fell in love with

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01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:55,720
Speaker 5: the writing and the humor and the songs. And a

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Speaker 5: year later I then went to Chicago to see their

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Speaker 5: newest show, Starship, which was a sci fi musical parody,

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Speaker 5: and they were just as great live as I had

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Speaker 5: seen on YouTube basically, And so why I think you

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Speaker 5: should get into it is that they've created so many

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Speaker 5: wonderful parody musicals about such a wide array of pop

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Speaker 5: culture phenomena, including Star Wars, Harry Potter, superheroes, and even

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Speaker 5: most recently of Christmas Carol. And I think the Extra

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Speaker 5: Vision listeners and the Extra Vision team would really love

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Speaker 5: the heartfelt way in which they pay tribute to these universes,

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Speaker 5: and I think you would particularly like the little easter

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Speaker 5: eggs and the little inside jokes that they throw in

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Speaker 5: for the people who know that particular material.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 1: Their shows are done.

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Speaker 4: By fans for fans, because everyone involved in Team Starket

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Speaker 4: themselves is a nerd and you can really tell that

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Speaker 4: they love the source material by the effort that they

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Speaker 4: put into the writing and the music and the performances,

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Speaker 4: and it's really lovely, and you can tell that they

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Speaker 4: really genuinely love the shows and the movies and the

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Speaker 4: comics or whatever other source material that they are drawing from,

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Speaker 4: and the music and the writing and the performances are amazing,

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Speaker 4: of course, But really the best part is that with

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Speaker 4: every show they create, you either get to experience a

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Speaker 4: new fandom if you're not familiar with the source material,

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Speaker 4: or you get to appreciate a fandom that you're already

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Speaker 4: a part of all over again and with a new

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Speaker 4: point of view through their awesome songs. So I'm not

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Speaker 4: sure what they have planned at the moment because of Corona,

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Speaker 4: but for nerd out listeners, I would recommend checking out

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Speaker 4: a very part of Musical Annie which is their Star

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Speaker 4: Wars parody musical, or Holy Musical Batman which is their

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Speaker 4: superhero show.

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Speaker 2: And you can find all of those on.

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Speaker 5: YouTube at Team starkd or you get more info about

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Speaker 5: their project on their website teamstarkit dot com.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's it for me.

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Speaker 2: I hope you enjoy Team star Kid.

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Speaker 1: Thanks bye, Thanks Alice for submitting. If you want to

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Speaker 1: be featured, send you nerd out, pitch you x ray

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Speaker 1: at crooked dot com. Instructions are in the show notes.

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Speaker 1: A big thank you to Rosie Knight and Cody zig

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Speaker 1: Ziggler for joining us on x ray zig. What do

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Speaker 1: you got to plug? My guy? Tell us everything you know.

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Speaker 3: If you're a fan of comic books, but I think

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Speaker 3: you are for listening to this podcast, check out you

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Speaker 3: know a spider Punk number one? There we go. Baby

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Speaker 3: number two I think comes out the eighteenth of May.

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Speaker 3: Don't quote me on that unless it's true, then quote

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Speaker 3: me all you want to. And I believe what if

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Speaker 3: Miles Morales number five comes out? But I may be wrong,

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Speaker 3: But if not, check them all out because they're all

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01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:49,040
Speaker 3: fucking fantastic. Like I just read what If Miles was store,

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Speaker 3: and it is the coolest shit I've ever read, really

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Speaker 3: fun shout out to that. Right, it's the dopest, blackest

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Speaker 3: shit I've ever seen. You got to check that out.

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Speaker 3: It's so fucking clean.

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Speaker 1: Rosie plugs, what do you plug in? I'm I'm going to.

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Speaker 2: Again, but first Spider Punk. Like when I read that

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Speaker 2: issue like one, it's amazing, It's brilliant. Justin's Oh my god,

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Speaker 2: Jim's letters, I was dying. Cody's writing, It's fantastic. That

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Speaker 2: is like one of the best number ones I've read

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Speaker 2: in such.

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Speaker 3: A long time.

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Speaker 2: If you are of a certain age, you're you're a

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01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:23,760
Speaker 2: millennial or whatever they call us. You grew up in

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01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:27,040
Speaker 2: the zeros, you were dancing to a misfit song in

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01:14:27,080 --> 01:14:30,040
Speaker 2: a dive bar, you have some questionable tattoos. You will

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Speaker 2: be screaming. This is a true book on every level.

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Speaker 2: I love it. I tell everyone to read it. It's

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Speaker 2: so good. And Jim's lettering is like, I can't get

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Speaker 2: over it. It's it's some of the best best modern

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01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:44,879
Speaker 2: comic book lettering, and it adds so much. The final

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Speaker 2: page splash, that's what I was gonna say.

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Speaker 1: That is gonna say their final page. Look their teas

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Speaker 1: on the final page. The final flash page is like, oh,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, want to give me the.

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01:15:03,040 --> 01:15:06,320
Speaker 2: Whole like back piece too of that final thing with

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Speaker 2: the letters and the question.

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Speaker 1: It's really really good. So yes, it's really good.

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Speaker 2: Is very good. Obviously, what if Mars Morrel is every

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01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:19,720
Speaker 2: Mars Morleis should be every character so that yeah, Godzilla,

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Speaker 2: it's it's pre orderable now, it should be coming out

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Speaker 2: in August. That's the nature of comics. You pre order

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01:15:26,080 --> 01:15:28,960
Speaker 2: them now, it will be in your shop. Then we

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Speaker 2: will likely be doing some core signings and stuff like that,

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Speaker 2: so keep an ear out for that stuff. You can

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Speaker 2: find me on Instagram. That's where I am, and just

1358
01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:43,000
Speaker 2: doing all this, doing this writing about comics, writing about

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01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:46,839
Speaker 2: TV shows, and just talking about all this cool stuff

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Speaker 2: is a good life.

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Speaker 1: I check out our videos on the Uncultured YouTube channel

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01:15:55,160 --> 01:15:57,160
Speaker 1: and the show notes for the listener's guide to Extra Vision,

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01:15:57,160 --> 01:15:59,080
Speaker 1: where we provide more details of where to find the

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Speaker 1: stuff that we talk about on every episode. Check the

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Speaker 1: next episode on May six, where we're gonna find out

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Speaker 1: if all the theories that we have been spouting over

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Speaker 1: the weeks about Doctor Stage and the Multiverse a mannas

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Speaker 1: are ind correct. If they are, we're gonna talk about

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Speaker 1: it more. If they're not, that's the nature of the business. Folks,

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Speaker 1: Next time maybe Bye x ray Vision is a Crooked

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Speaker 1: Media production. The show is produced by Chris Lorden Salrubin.

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Speaker 1: The show is executive produced by myself and Sandy Rhard

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Speaker 1: are editing in sound designs by Facilius Photopolos. Dellan Villanueva

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Speaker 1: and Matta Group provide video production support and Alex Relaford

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Speaker 1: handle social media. Thank you Brian Vasquez for theme music.

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Speaker 2: Bye