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Speaker 2: Ken is on the phone today for a first Day

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Speaker 2: follow up.

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Speaker 3: And he's getting ghosted by Jamie and he has no

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Speaker 3: idea why. So we'll see if we can figure it

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Speaker 3: out for him in a second. But first, Ken, how

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Speaker 3: long has it been since you heard from Jamie?

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Speaker 4: Uh? It's been about two weeks.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well let's hear about it. How did you meet Jamie?

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Speaker 2: How is the day? What's going on?

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Speaker 4: So? Yeah, so we met at a concert. You know,

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Speaker 4: it was like a real small venue and we were

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Speaker 4: both kind of at the back, kind of away from

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Speaker 4: the crowd, so it felt like a good time to

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Speaker 4: strike up a conversation. So we did. We talked back

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Speaker 4: and forth, you know, we were both dig in the concert,

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Speaker 4: and then as things started to wind down, I was like,

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Speaker 4: screw it, I'll just ask her out. Good for you. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I was like, well, well we're in person, let's actually

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Speaker 4: do what people used to do and talk to each other.

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Speaker 4: So she agreed, and she, you know, she said something

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Speaker 4: like I don't know, I was awkward but too cute

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Speaker 4: to say no to, which was fine. With me. So

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Speaker 4: I text her the next day, see, you know, are

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Speaker 4: you still down to do this? And she seems really

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Speaker 5: Okay, So then I take her out.

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Speaker 4: I took her to this restaurant. It's kind of my

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Speaker 4: secret gem. I don't go there often, but when it's

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Speaker 4: you know, start thems off rite with. So go to

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Speaker 4: this place and we just chat about the concert, we

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Speaker 4: get to know each other, ask her about like other

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Speaker 4: music she's into, and again everything's going well. She starts

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Speaker 4: talking about, you know, she's done what we've all done,

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Speaker 4: you know, the and on the apps, just trying to

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Speaker 4: date around but it's hard, right and she was like,

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Speaker 4: And she said something like she was deliberate about who

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Speaker 4: little like what does that mean? But then I'm like, well,

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Speaker 4: So again, everything's going well up to this point. So

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Speaker 4: I take this to the compliment she enjoys being with me.

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Speaker 4: I tell the kind of the same thing. I just

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Speaker 4: I'm looking for something normal in my life right now, right,

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Speaker 4: So after dinner we talk a bit more. There's actually

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Speaker 4: this park across the street from the restaurant and on

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Speaker 4: is this is so rare, Like no one spends this

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Speaker 4: It was one of those things you see on like

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Speaker 4: like I didn't want to be too forward, too creepy,

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Speaker 4: like yeah, absolutely, So again you drove her home. This

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Speaker 4: is all going well. Again, I'm trying to be easy

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Speaker 4: I assume there's going to be another date. So I

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Speaker 4: go for the hug instead, right that, which seems like

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Speaker 5: A good call there, Yeah, And so this.

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Speaker 4: Is where I'm like, if there was a problem, it

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Speaker 2: Whoa.

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Speaker 4: But like she knew that it was an accident, right,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're nervous. You're like, I don't want to go

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Speaker 2: in for a kiss.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll go for a hug agause I'm just going

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Speaker 4: If someone was watching this, it would look creepy. But

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Speaker 4: it was a total accident, and so anyway, she offers

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Speaker 2: Okay, wow, wow, Well we'll try to figure it out

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Speaker 3: Play a song and then come back and call her

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Speaker 3: and see if she'll tell us why she's ghosting you,

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Speaker 3: and maybe get you another day if you still want them.

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Speaker 2: Okay, maybe she has a concussion. Yeah, I plas, I'll

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Speaker 2: come back. Get your first name follow up, Next first.

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Speaker 3: If you're just joining us for today's first day follow up.

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Speaker 3: Ken is on the phone and he's getting ghosted by Jamie.

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Speaker 3: We're about to call her and see if she'll tell

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Speaker 3: us why she's ghosting him and maybe get him another

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Speaker 3: date if he still wants one. But before we do that,

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Speaker 3: why don't you catch everybody up on your date with Jamie.

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Speaker 2: Ken.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so met Jamie out at a concert. We kind

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Speaker 4: of hit it off, asked her if I could call her.

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Speaker 4: We set up a date, went out to dinner. It

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Speaker 4: was real good. Kind of spent the whole night connecting, talking,

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Speaker 4: ended up driving her home, went in for a hug.

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Speaker 4: The only thing I can think here that went wrong

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Speaker 4: I kind of fell on to her in her door.

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Speaker 4: But we ended off with a hug and then I

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Speaker 4: reached out to her. Haven't heard from like nine days?

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, man? Were you ready to call her?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Please?

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Speaker 2: Okay, here we go. Hello, Hi, May I speak to Jamie? Please?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? This is Jamie.

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Speaker 2: Jamie, how are you? My name is jubal And a

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Speaker 2: host a radio show. It's called The Jubill Show. Hi, Jamie,

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Speaker 2: I'm Nina on the show too, Hi, and I'm Victoria.

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Speaker 2: What's up? Jamie?

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry? Why are you calling?

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Speaker 2: Do you listen to the show at all? Ever?

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Speaker 5: Oh? Yeah, I mean I have, but.

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Speaker 2: I highly recommend it. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The reason that we're calling is we do a segment

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Speaker 3: on the show called the First Dight follow Up. That's

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Speaker 3: where if you go on a date with somebody and

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Speaker 3: then you end up ghosting them. That person can email

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Speaker 3: us to get you on the phone and ask why

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Speaker 3: you're ghosting them. So we had an email about you.

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Speaker 6: Oh okay, Yeah, I mean I think I know where

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Speaker 6: this is going. Okay, I know who emailed you.

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Speaker 2: Who do you think it is?

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Speaker 5: I'm going to say it's Ken.

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Speaker 2: You are correct, Yes it is.

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Speaker 3: Ken emailed us and said that he really liked you

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Speaker 3: a lot, but he doesn't know why you're ghosting him.

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Speaker 6: Oh, this is this is awkward?

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Speaker 2: Can you tell Do you mind telling us? He really

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess.

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Speaker 6: I mean we we had a really nice date and

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Speaker 6: Ken is like he's a goofball. He's awkward, but he

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Speaker 6: I guess it was just the end of the day.

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Speaker 6: That was that was really a bummer for me. He

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Speaker 5: Sweet and he gave me a hug.

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Speaker 6: But unfortunately he knocked me into my door and I

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Speaker 2: Oh he told us about that, like he.

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Speaker 6: S, yeah, he tripped into me, and yeah, my face

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Speaker 5: Like I tried to play it off, I was just

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Speaker 6: I was like trying to just you know, give him

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Speaker 6: when I got inside, I my face was burning. It

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I mean it sucked.

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Speaker 6: Too, because, like I get, these things happened, but I

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Speaker 4: no idea. I'm so sorry. It was a complete accident.

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Speaker 4: I can't believe that it got that bad.

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Speaker 5: I'm so sorry.

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Speaker 6: I know, I understand. I really appreciate the apology. It's

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Speaker 6: just like it was not what I needed at that time. Really,

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Speaker 4: Look, I am so sorry that you had to deal

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Speaker 5: Oh, look, I understand it was an accident. I get that.

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Speaker 6: I was just in so much shock about everything that

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Speaker 6: then and I was saying, like, oh, I have work

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Speaker 5: In my head. It just made me really angry.

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Speaker 2: That's a fair emotion I feel in the moment.

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Speaker 4: Oh, i'd be pissed too, Like I man, I'm just mediot.

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Speaker 4: I can't believe that, Jamie.

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Speaker 2: Do you like going out with Ken though?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: Other than that, I.

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Speaker 5: Mean, yeah, it was a good time.

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Speaker 6: And I was just really angry at the time about

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Speaker 6: that I took it out on him.

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Speaker 5: So.

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Speaker 6: Well, yeah, I mean I typically don't do that, Like

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Speaker 6: But I couldn't.

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Speaker 5: I had so much on my mind. But I look,

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Speaker 5: I owe him a black guy. He's not gonna get away.

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Speaker 2: It's one way to put it, Jamie.

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Speaker 4: knock me over as many times as you like.

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Speaker 3: Oh all right, well, Jamie, would you like to go

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Speaker 3: out with Ken again. We'll pay for it.

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Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, Ken, you're on like you're gonna have

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Speaker 6: a worse black guy.

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Speaker 5: Than me, but you'll have fun.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what's either way.

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Speaker 3: Congratulations Ken, you got another data or at least you

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Speaker 3: got your beat.

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Speaker 2: I have no idea.

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Speaker 4: Thank you guys so much, Jamie. This is great Juble's

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Speaker 4: first date.