1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 2: Single best idea after an exhausting week, and just a 3 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 2: little backstory here. It's the time and this week alexis 4 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 2: story and behind us are without exaggeration, twenty full time 5 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 2: people just trying to make it go to get from 6 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 2: Nathan Hager, to get to what we're doing, to get 7 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 2: on to Carol and Tim in the afternoon. But around that, 8 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 2: I'm not kidding, just one hundred full time people in 9 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 2: the Middle East, and I'm probably under that it's probably 10 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 2: two hundred as well, all sorts of conversations today on 11 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 2: the war, it's economic impact as well ed Morse with 12 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 2: Us yesterday from Hartree. Thank you for the response to that. 13 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 2: Zaia Dawd is out of the London School of Economics, 14 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 2: quite definitive. He was a Kennedy at Harvard and he 15 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 2: holds court is our em economist. A report that went 16 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 2: worldwide last night, and how we get to one hundred 17 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 2: and sixty five dollars oil briefly the middle of this 18 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 2: year and all of it because of a scope and 19 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 2: scale of the Straits of muse. Let's listen. 20 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 1: It is large, and it's large, and it's concentrated. If 21 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 1: you think about it what it transports. It transports aill 22 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: in gas and energy from the Middle East to the 23 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: rest of the world, and the rest of the world 24 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: sends almost everything else of the Middle East needs through 25 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: that strait. So it is a lot of trait that 26 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: goes there is concentrated in a crucial commodity that is 27 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 1: all in gas. And the other thing with the strait 28 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: of hormones, which is different than the Swiss Canalis, not 29 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: just the size is not alternative. So most of the 30 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: oil that's going from Saudi Arabia, from Iraq, from Vuae 31 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: goes through hormas. All the energy that goes from Kuwait, 32 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: Bahrain and Katar goes through hormess. It's a big shock 33 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: twenty percent of global oil supplies, right. I can't think 34 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: of a larger ol shock and release into history. This 35 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: is not the largest than it's one of the largest, 36 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: for sure. 37 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 2: There's just absolutely brilliant And you know, I looked up 38 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 2: the numbers here. That's what I do with AI and 39 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 2: really the only equivalent to Harmuz is the Straits of 40 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 2: Malacca down by Malaysia and Singapore and north of Indonesia. 41 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 2: I mean other than Malaca and the conduit going up 42 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 2: the Pacific Riom to Japan. There's no other scale and size. 43 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:31,079 Speaker 2: I think we're only beginning to really understand the factor, 44 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 2: the magnitude scale of Harmus, the Persian, the Arabian golf 45 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 2: as well with as Michael Nihrenberg of Rhythm, and of 46 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 2: course this would have been the number one topic of 47 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 2: the week except a war, and that is private credit 48 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 2: and the challenges that are out there. He's with Rhythm. 49 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 3: Let's listen, listen, there's going to be pockets of private 50 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 3: credit that are that are going to you know, right now. 51 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 3: Obviously in the news private credit is negative. I don't 52 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 3: think all private credit is negative, to be totally honest. 53 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 3: I think there's been some Obviously there's been some headlines 54 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:08,679 Speaker 3: with some of the other larger asset managers that have 55 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 3: put up gates, and I think a lot of that 56 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 3: has to do with what we what we've seen the 57 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 3: distribution of private credit into retail, and when you take 58 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 3: products that may not be one hundred percent suited for retail, 59 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 3: and retail wants their money out because equity markets have 60 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 3: turned over and folks are looking for liquidity. It creates 61 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 3: a little bit of what we'll call us a so 62 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 3: called run on the bank. 63 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 2: Michael Nirenberg there with the rhythm today in private credit 64 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 2: special things, as well to Hugh vonsteinas of Oliver Wyman, 65 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 2: Oliver Wyman Vice Chair, Oliver Wyman, who was just brilliant 66 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 2: there on getting through the weekend of private credit. Both 67 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 2: of them fairly optimistic that it would be contained around 68 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 2: the retailization of private credit and that a large part 69 00:03:55,880 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 2: of the industry would continue to move forward. 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