Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season three oh three,
Speaker 1: episode one of Dally's Guys Today production of iHeart Radio.
Speaker 2: Have you heard it?
Speaker 3: You heard it?
Speaker 1: Youback? This is a podcast Miles in case you forgot
Speaker 1: where we take it, take a deep a dive into
Speaker 1: America's share consciousness. It is Wednesday, September sixth, twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you don't know what that is? Six Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: it's National Read a Book Day, National Coffee ice Cream Day.
Speaker 1: Kind of a light day for first that's it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: read a book and enjoy some coffee ice cream.
Speaker 2: Yeah, why not do them?
Speaker 1: Hey, we appreciate the slow day. Yeah, national word of
Speaker 1: what day? Things are? Well, my name is Jack O'Brien
Speaker 1: aka freeze up like my brain had a glitch. Freeze
Speaker 1: up like my brain had a glitch. Whoa, whoa must
Speaker 1: be this Seizing of the Midge. Yeah, that is courtesy
Speaker 1: of Hugo Boss the Little Season of the Witch, Seizing
Speaker 1: of the Mitch. Okay, and I'm thrilled to be joined
Speaker 1: as always by my co host mister Miles Grant and
Speaker 1: Meaviglioso Toornato.
Speaker 2: Uh so good to be back. It's a Miles Great
Speaker 2: aka the Prince of Pulia, the man of Mono, the
Speaker 2: og of Ostuni, and the wonderful lover of Thank you
Speaker 2: so much for having me. It's just so good to
Speaker 2: be back in this place. I guess you called the
Speaker 2: United States.
Speaker 1: I was just.
Speaker 2: Spendulia, which is known as the heel of the Buddha
Speaker 2: Italy and between the Adriatic sea views and the fresh seafood.
Speaker 2: I must say it is a storied place that you
Speaker 2: simply must visit.
Speaker 4: How about them conical duns though, oh.
Speaker 2: You mean the truly those are the traditional farmhouses of
Speaker 2: the region which have these sort of yes, like you say,
Speaker 2: whitewashed conical domes that are just they're whimsical. Whimsy's the
Speaker 2: only word that can describe them.
Speaker 1: You can just assume, listener. I know you can't see,
Speaker 1: but you could just assume that at any point during
Speaker 1: this conversation, one of us will be kissing our hands,
Speaker 1: like doing a little chef's kiss thing, while the other
Speaker 1: one's talking yes in vigorous agreement.
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you, it's great to be back. Thank
Speaker 2: you to everybody who guest hosted. And like you heard
Speaker 2: in yesterday's weekend recap episode, I am recharged and I've
Speaker 2: experienced growth again. Shout out to Jack for putting my
Speaker 2: brain go outside your comfort zone consistently zone.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 2: But now every day though, I really think about that shit,
Speaker 2: like being like whether there's just a little light exercise,
Speaker 2: a little you know, chores I've been putting off doing
Speaker 2: them right away kind of thing. Just always being like, no,
Speaker 2: go against that, go against the sort of know your
Speaker 2: default comfort zone.
Speaker 1: Slapping her face in the mirror like a movie psycho. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just anything growing on. Well, Miles, we are thrilled
Speaker 1: to be joined in our third seat by one of
Speaker 1: the people who was sitting in our second seat, that
Speaker 1: very seat you sit on while you were away in Italy.
Speaker 1: A very talented writer and stand up comedian. Her advice
Speaker 1: on sex and travel has been featured everywhere mental strategist
Speaker 1: betches anywhere men need help fingering to quote the bio
Speaker 1: on her website, Yeah quotes the Great Ninety Day Fiance
Speaker 1: podcast four to twenty de Fiance with some guy named Miles.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the show, the hilarious, the talented Sophia Alexandra.
Speaker 4: Yoh, oh my goodness, I'm so glad I get the
Speaker 4: clowned with both of you. Because I was busy being
Speaker 4: Italian Miles while Italian Miles was being Italian Miles. It
Speaker 4: was confusing for everyone.
Speaker 2: Oh well, it's always good to it's as wild to
Speaker 2: also be do this podcast with the Sofia because we
Speaker 2: have our own language of incoherent banter on fourty. Now
Speaker 2: we must make a coherent for the daily geist for
Speaker 2: the children. Yes, exactly.
Speaker 1: Well you can tell you guys have spent a lot
Speaker 1: of time talking to one another because Sofia absolutely nailed
Speaker 1: her prediction of what Italian Miles was going to be. Yes,
Speaker 1: when he came back, Yeah.
Speaker 2: As well, yeah you know, and as did you, Like,
Speaker 2: I think between the two of you, you knew it
Speaker 2: was going to be some form of intolerable guy version.
Speaker 2: Stanley Tucci on Fucking Like the Exponent.
Speaker 4: Of twenty I believe the first thing I said to
Speaker 4: Jack was, oh God, he's gonna be so unbearable. Comes back.
Speaker 3: And he's like, I know.
Speaker 4: And then right as I show up today, I'm like
Speaker 4: this fool fakaca and then just like talking about.
Speaker 1: Morning all morning, what can I say?
Speaker 4: You know you knew you knew Chef's kiss m He.
Speaker 1: Did bring a live mandolin player back from Italy with him.
Speaker 1: So anytime you hear mandolin music that's it's live, you
Speaker 1: can assume it's Captain Corelli's.
Speaker 2: When I when I was doing deep, when I was
Speaker 2: coming back in the country, trying to explain who the
Speaker 2: mandolin player was, I was like, this is my other
Speaker 2: son who was older than we'd like to just come home.
Speaker 2: We're just coming home.
Speaker 4: We're regular family. I'm like that politician and his boyfriend's
Speaker 4: son that he adopted.
Speaker 2: What yeah, yeah, or are you talking about Matt Gates?
Speaker 4: You know I am yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, very boyfriend's son.
Speaker 2: Somehow I became shadier than Matt Gates trying to smuggle
Speaker 2: an older mandolin player back into the United States. But
Speaker 2: it happens.
Speaker 1: This immigration form is really about found family, like many
Speaker 1: of my favorite films and TV shows. Anyways, all right, Sophia,
Speaker 1: we're gonna get to know you a little bit better
Speaker 1: in a moment. First, a couple of things. We're talking about.
Speaker 1: Cop City protesters just got hit with the rico in Georgia.
Speaker 1: So yeah, Georgia is it. It's just a dark story
Speaker 1: all the way through. Yeah, So we'll tell you about
Speaker 1: what's going on there some private equity firms who you'll
Speaker 1: be you'll be shocked to know private equity is involved
Speaker 1: in the building of a sixty million dollar police city.
Speaker 4: Yeah, truly a lease industrial complex.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's actually sixty million coming from corporate donors, and
Speaker 2: I think the other thirty is coming from also Oh
Speaker 2: my bad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely a lot we're gonna talk about. Uh, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of talk on the right about how Trump
Speaker 1: is going to be assassinated. Tucker Carlson keeps bringing it up.
Speaker 1: We will talk already Tuckers. Yeah, yeah, so he really
Speaker 1: wants that to happen. He's at the edge of the
Speaker 1: pool trying to psych himself up to jump in. But
Speaker 1: there's a long history of this, going back to I
Speaker 1: had kind of forgotten this the twenty sixteen campaign, where
Speaker 1: somebody raised a sign that was critical of Trump and
Speaker 1: somebody else in his crowd yelled gone, and then everyone
Speaker 1: was like, there was an attempt at assassination on Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: Those complete bullshit. So we'll talk about that. We'll talk
Speaker 1: about the six degrees of Kevin Bacon being a mathematical fact.
Speaker 1: They did a study into the six degrees of separation
Speaker 1: that you know we're all pretty much on average six
Speaker 1: degrees separated from one another, and found that it's actually
Speaker 1: like true, almost invariably. So we'll talk about why that's true.
Speaker 1: We might even talk about Elon Musk claiming that the
Speaker 1: Anti Defamation League is the reason that he's bad at
Speaker 1: his job, all of that plenty more. But first, Sophia,
Speaker 1: we do like to ask our guests, what is something
Speaker 1: from your search history?
Speaker 4: Okay, so I have recently gone insane, and thank you
Speaker 4: so much. It's smith. I've been working so hard. It's
Speaker 4: really just it's just an honor to be nominated.
Speaker 2: And then right, yeah, Tuly on your first try.
Speaker 4: This is how you know I'm insane. Okay. I went
Speaker 4: from not caring or liking Taylor Swift at all to
Speaker 4: now joining a reddit called Gaylor, where I have seen
Speaker 4: multiple slideshow presentations that prove that Taylor Swift was gay
Speaker 4: with Carly Klass and others that proved that she was
Speaker 4: also gay with Diana Agron from Glee and also this
Speaker 4: other model from Britain named Lily. They are all just
Speaker 4: the same white woman. She's just fucking herself over and
Speaker 4: over again. It's just like kind of fascinating, and now
Speaker 4: like this is how you know I've gone insane, because
Speaker 4: if you look at that search history, you will probably
Speaker 4: think I am seventeen maybe I don't know.
Speaker 2: And you're shipping shipping Taylor with all these models.
Speaker 4: I like, I don't care that. It's like I don't
Speaker 4: have a vested interest in the relationships, right, I care
Speaker 4: about it in the same way that if like you
Speaker 4: found out that, like I don't know, Obama and Biden
Speaker 4: were lovers, you were like, Okay, I need to know
Speaker 4: a little bit more about how the fuck this worked,
Speaker 4: Like how did you pull this off?
Speaker 2: When did they get together? I need to all of
Speaker 2: the questions.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like, well how do you do that and
Speaker 4: have full time boyfriends? Like this is a lot of
Speaker 4: like like covering being gay, Like how how are you
Speaker 4: pulling it off? So anyway, just if you want to
Speaker 4: lose your goddamn mind, go down that rabbit hole.
Speaker 2: Are these slide shows like particularly compelling or they're just
Speaker 2: like look at all these images that if you have
Speaker 2: your confirmation bias set to galer, then yes.
Speaker 4: And yes, But also some of the stuff is like wow,
Speaker 4: that is very gay. I don't know that I should
Speaker 4: be out here trying to decide whether Taylor is gay
Speaker 4: or not. But the whole reddit is run by other
Speaker 4: gay people who are just obsessed with the idea that like,
Speaker 4: she's queer and her music is queer, and she's been
Speaker 4: telling us and showing us, and we're just like not
Speaker 4: getting it. So as a cultural study, it is the
Speaker 4: most fascinating thing. And to answer your slideshow question, some
Speaker 4: of them are like they're like a little thumbprint. They're
Speaker 4: like a very individual snapshot of a person's mind. It's
Speaker 4: like all confirmation bias obviously. Yeah, but you're also watching
Speaker 4: them in your pret song lyrics where you're like, oh, no,
Speaker 4: that just means any and you want it to mean.
Speaker 4: That is a very vague lyric like no, it refers
Speaker 4: to the one time that Carl bought a gold dress.
Speaker 4: It was this day, here's the receipt. The song that
Speaker 4: says jeans and Nikes. Carly was a Nike spokesperson in
Speaker 4: twenty sixteen.
Speaker 1: You understand how deep.
Speaker 4: These women go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that. You You also have facts now that, like,
Speaker 2: you know these models like endorsement.
Speaker 4: Dudes, I shouldn't know any of this. That is what's
Speaker 4: so insane. I shouldn't know any of it. I shouldn't
Speaker 4: be thinking about it. It is like an addiction, like
Speaker 4: I think, assume what people feel like when they gamble,
Speaker 4: just like a rush. Yeah, it's like insane and it
Speaker 4: doesn't make any sense, but you're like, let's keep doing it. Yeah,
Speaker 4: anyway the game of their zubreddit do it.
Speaker 1: She kind of has to be everything to everyone right, right,
Speaker 1: and so like by keeping things that perfectly vague, yeah,
Speaker 1: it kind of creates this thing where she can like
Speaker 1: break all the box office records when right, she lets
Speaker 1: people go watch a concert that they can also watch
Speaker 1: in person.
Speaker 4: Yes, but I also just enjoy the fact that, like
Speaker 4: she's just if she is gay, she's only gay for
Speaker 4: exact copies of herself, which I think is a fascinating category.
Speaker 4: It's like, no, she's not clear, she's queer for Taylor, right,
Speaker 4: Like I just want to find mirror images of myself too. Fuck,
Speaker 4: that is so wild.
Speaker 1: Wasn't that Liberaci's thing? Like didn't he have a lover
Speaker 1: who he gave plastic surgery to look more like Liberacci? Yes?
Speaker 2: Oh wow, yes that is true. Yeah you said that's
Speaker 2: so unequivocally Yes, that is true.
Speaker 4: Well, because yeah, I mean, people bring that up a
Speaker 4: lot as like a Liberaci thing there, like did you
Speaker 4: know because it's so weird.
Speaker 2: I wonder if, like I think it's an interesting exercise
Speaker 2: just for anyone with an imagination to try and make
Speaker 2: anything true about Taylor Swift, like using the same methodology.
Speaker 2: We're like you Actually, if you think about it, all
Speaker 2: of her lyrics are steeped in like black panther ideology.
Speaker 4: To god, there's someone right now making that slideshow, right
Speaker 4: right right, like foresure there's a Swift contingency that's like,
Speaker 4: you don't understand what being a black panther is until
Speaker 4: you listen to Red Taylor's version.
Speaker 2: It's like Red is actually an anthem for the Crip
Speaker 2: gang despite it being called red. And here in this thread,
Speaker 2: I will, I will.
Speaker 1: You've seen the theory that her dad is the Zodiac killer,
Speaker 1: right and then oh, she's trying to reveal that through
Speaker 1: her lyrics. I just made that up.
Speaker 4: But that is again probably being built right now. Right
Speaker 4: as you said it, people were like, this is true.
Speaker 1: What's what something you think is overrated?
Speaker 4: Okay, So say.
Speaker 1: For Catia from the boot from the heel of the
Speaker 1: boot of Italy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know what I think is bullshitka
Speaker 4: just generally all of it, but especially the kind that
Speaker 4: comes from How would you say the boot of that
Speaker 4: eat that specifically sucks balls?
Speaker 2: Nothing? You've said that because you know I and I
Speaker 2: get what you're trying to do. But unless you've actually
Speaker 2: roamed the old central historic core of body, how could
Speaker 2: you know? You know? And it sounds like you're just
Speaker 2: grasping I things, But go on, yeah, just.
Speaker 4: Stand by my statement. Okay, stand by that. I need
Speaker 4: a statement.
Speaker 1: Just sandwich that fucking sweats on my hands? Man?
Speaker 4: Also, why does it not have a proper crust? Why
Speaker 4: does it not have a proper crust?
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get you know what I'm gonna do this week.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get you with me.
Speaker 4: You got no crust right now.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get bro. I'm gonna to go to Italy
Speaker 2: and get thrown out for being too I'm gonna go out. Sorry,
Speaker 2: did you bake this? And what were you thinking with
Speaker 2: this fukatcha you were making? Do you know what? Are
Speaker 2: you guys bound by a certain recipe or are you
Speaker 2: allowed to do make actual fokatcha? Just curious than you are.
Speaker 4: You bound by wait put it.
Speaker 2: Because because I'm I'm assuming they're a prisoner of food
Speaker 2: in that place in the jail we call.
Speaker 1: You can't think this is as good as body.
Speaker 4: What happens is they put all of the smuggled mandolin
Speaker 4: players and they can't leave.
Speaker 2: That's mouth.
Speaker 4: That's how fucked up.
Speaker 2: I will play mandolin at your next event. We escape.
Speaker 1: What what's something that you think is underrated?
Speaker 4: Okay, Actually it's kind of crazy that this bread thing
Speaker 4: came up, because legitimately before we ever started joking about Facaca,
Speaker 4: I think son Gok, the Persian bread is so fucking underrated,
Speaker 4: and no one ever gets it. People always think lavash,
Speaker 4: but no, son doc is what you want. And there's
Speaker 4: a place in Westwood because it's like a Persian area
Speaker 4: that fresh bakes theirs and you get it and it's
Speaker 4: still warm, and they put so many fucking sesame seeds
Speaker 4: on it, and the black and white kinds, both seeds,
Speaker 4: and it is so good, and you can cut it
Speaker 4: into pieces because it's like three feet long or whatever,
Speaker 4: and then you freeze those pieces if you want, then
Speaker 4: you just pop them in the toaster and you always
Speaker 4: have it and that bread I'm telling you, don't sleep
Speaker 4: on it. It is so good.
Speaker 2: Son gok, wow, how are we spellless? S A N
Speaker 2: G A K soun gok there is Wait when did
Speaker 2: you how did you intersect with that?
Speaker 1: Wait?
Speaker 2: What happened with?
Speaker 4: The bakery's next door to where I work out, which
Speaker 4: is terrible idea for.
Speaker 2: Me right next door?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like.
Speaker 4: Cool, workout. Can I have three feet of bread?
Speaker 2: Absolutely?
Speaker 4: But that's what happens, and it smells so good.
Speaker 2: So I was like, just off the strength of like
Speaker 2: the smell coming out of there, You're like like a
Speaker 2: like a Looney Tunes cartoon. You're just like drawn in
Speaker 2: through the lifted off your feet.
Speaker 4: No, my trainer, the woman that runs the bakery, dropped
Speaker 4: it off for him. It's just like she does that
Speaker 4: because they're all friends. They're all friends in the little
Speaker 4: strip and he was like, have some and I tried someone.
Speaker 4: I was like, oh my god, You're like I'm in.
Speaker 2: The middle of a super set right now. Really, it's like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: just have a couple of bites and then we'll go
Speaker 2: back to your core work.
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, yeah, I'm like, just uh, just can I
Speaker 4: jog towards the bread real quick. It's so fucking good,
Speaker 4: all right, Like.
Speaker 1: At a time they it's I would hazard that they
Speaker 1: know exactly what they're doing right like that, at a
Speaker 1: time when somebody is like burning up a bunch of
Speaker 1: calories and carbs that they're coming by to hand deliver
Speaker 1: yards of delicious bread, that's uh.
Speaker 2: Them actually, And also like the moral licensing that happens,
Speaker 2: like with your eating habits. When you're working out, you
Speaker 2: can be like, I just worked out, so you know
Speaker 2: what I can eat seven hundred x ys or zas exactly.
Speaker 2: I get the logic. So credit to them for their
Speaker 2: four dimensional thinking and marketing.
Speaker 1: Mmm. I love an x wiser Elon Musk's new beer.
Speaker 4: Called something real simple like bread. I don't know, sorry,
Speaker 4: I'm not hopeful. I'm just gonna like shout out this place.
Speaker 4: Then I'm like, I think it's called something so simple
Speaker 4: that googling it will do nothing.
Speaker 2: Right, right bread bakery?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 4: Really yeah, Google bread and it's like, no, that's not
Speaker 4: gonna work about sofia. Oh oh, I know Google, which
Speaker 4: is where I work out there.
Speaker 2: Exactly if you want to catch her, that's where she'll be.
Speaker 4: Oh, my god. Yeah, please, are you.
Speaker 1: Sure you are? Let's let's we're deleting all. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: can just do their own searches.
Speaker 4: Just it's a beautiful mystery for you to.
Speaker 2: Let your nose take you, let your nose take.
Speaker 1: Just follow your nose as it lifts you off your
Speaker 1: feet and pulls you into traffic. Did that ever happen
Speaker 1: in one of the cartoons where somebody smells smelling pie
Speaker 1: and then is immediately hit and killed by a truck.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they do the thing where they think like they
Speaker 4: do like them, I'm trying to portray what the cartoon
Speaker 4: walk looks like when the cartoon character is like mesmerized
Speaker 4: and they're like, you're just like marching forward like in
Speaker 4: a way where they're not noticing anything, and I think
Speaker 4: it's like they end up being like dodging cars or
Speaker 4: cars dodging.
Speaker 2: That yeah, Frogger style, just narrowly missing death, although I
Speaker 2: love every time they died immediately you're a harp angel
Speaker 2: who just goes out of your body.
Speaker 4: Just conditioned to believe follows that pie.
Speaker 1: I have to that would be your first move. Yeah.
Speaker 4: It's a good cartoon and it knows fucking the power
Speaker 4: of three. Yeah, that goes will also be murdered, and
Speaker 4: a tinier goes playing a mandolin. See, and there we go.
Speaker 4: Now we just tied it together. That's a harald.
Speaker 1: You've just witnessed. You've just experienced a harold.
Speaker 4: Folks, you've been haralded, bitch.
Speaker 1: Been harolded, unheralded, harold like angels. Anyways, we're gonna move on.
Speaker 1: Let's take a quick break. We'll come back, and we're
Speaker 1: back and uh, we won't be playing the drake drop
Speaker 1: for this.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 1: Sixty one protesters have been indicted for violating Georgia's Rico
Speaker 1: Act for protesting the building of a mass military installation.
Speaker 4: Yeah, uh huh a lot clear where the bad guys are, right, Yeah,
Speaker 4: oh of course the protesters, yes.
Speaker 2: Of course.
Speaker 4: How dare you?
Speaker 2: They're getting hit with charges like domestic terror for like
Speaker 2: trying to disable like machines or like you know, they're
Speaker 2: like they were throwing molotov cocktails and all this other stuff.
Speaker 2: Money laundering because they were setting up bail funds. They're
Speaker 2: trying to like they're going after these people in the
Speaker 2: most fucked up way. The charges are being pursued by
Speaker 2: the state's Attorney General. You know Republican Chris Carr, And yeah,
Speaker 2: this is like a some multifaceted movement of people that
Speaker 2: realize that building these police training facilities are just merely
Speaker 2: a terrible escalation of the militarized like police state that
Speaker 2: we're experiencing across the country, and you know, antithetical to
Speaker 2: lowering instances of police brutality. When you're like, here's like
Speaker 2: an here's a whole place where you can train on
Speaker 2: how to suppress people's you know, democratic rights and things
Speaker 2: like that, it's like.
Speaker 1: The police Brutality Training Complex.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because they want it. They want to be like,
Speaker 2: we want them to have the feeling of what it's
Speaker 2: like to like, you know, kettle people in city streets
Speaker 2: or neighborhoods so they can do it more efficiently to
Speaker 2: like round up people. And you know, the Attorney General
Speaker 2: and governor have been just steadily screaming about how like
Speaker 2: this this whole thing is actually the work of like
Speaker 2: it's like an organized criminals. This is a criminal organization
Speaker 2: and enterprise to sort of create this rico narrative to
Speaker 2: go after protesters. And if you want to really understand
Speaker 2: how cynical and racist this shit is if you just
Speaker 2: look at the date listed on the indictments for like
Speaker 2: they like they're putting May twenty fifth, twenty twenty as
Speaker 2: sort of like the beginning of like this shit going down,
Speaker 2: which is the day George Floyd was murdered. Okay, wow,
Speaker 2: So they want to conflate this event with all of
Speaker 2: the scary BLM protests to say, like, you see what's
Speaker 2: going on, folks, it's just this like large movement to
Speaker 2: so discord and chaos when all we're trying to do
Speaker 2: is make people safe. One of the days in Atlanta,
Speaker 2: Sherry Boston said that her office would withdraw withdraw from
Speaker 2: criminal cases involving the cop involving Cop City. But it's
Speaker 2: this is some scary shit. I mean, like these are
Speaker 2: people exercising their First Amendment rights and the state and
Speaker 2: city of Atlanta have just made the whole this like
Speaker 2: into a campaign of like democratic suppression. You know, like
Speaker 2: there's officials they blocked a referendum on Cop City. They
Speaker 2: ignored all the pleas from the public, all the public comment.
Speaker 2: You're like, we do not want this, or other people
Speaker 2: in like Dacab County who are like this is near
Speaker 2: where I live. This is I do not want this.
Speaker 2: I do not want to see the forest raised so
Speaker 2: you can create this fucked up training facility. Then there
Speaker 2: were people who were like, like local election board members
Speaker 2: were removed for opposing Cop City, and now we're charging
Speaker 2: protesters with domestic terrorism under the Rico Act. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Also, I was gonna say that you should have so
Speaker 4: much shame that you're using the fucking Rico Act, which
Speaker 4: was used to bring down copone.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right on these people.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like just the fact, like how do you even
Speaker 4: put that in your mind together as even remotely in
Speaker 4: the same camp. Well, it's just so fucking yeah. I
Speaker 4: mean I always am shook and like speechless because like
Speaker 4: I expect people at some point to have shame, and
Speaker 4: then I'm like, no, but they don't like what am
Speaker 4: I talking about? They're heartless and yeah, driven completely by
Speaker 4: money and power. So why am I so shocked? But
Speaker 4: it's like every fucking time, you know.
Speaker 2: And to try and again scare people from wanting to
Speaker 2: put checks and balances, you know, on our system, especially
Speaker 2: as it relates to law enforcement. It's like, oh, you
Speaker 2: want to protest this, watch us go scorched earth on
Speaker 2: your ass. Meanwhile, we're like, yeah, these people who like
Speaker 2: storm the you know, like we have like people capital
Speaker 2: protesters where you see judge and be like, well, you know,
Speaker 2: I kind of want to go softer am I sentencing
Speaker 2: here or there where you have a very focused AG's
Speaker 2: office in Georgia being like yeah, you know, so what
Speaker 2: let's go, let's go rego on them and try and
Speaker 2: make an example of these people.
Speaker 4: Also, sorry, I was just gonna say I was legally
Speaker 4: arrested for protesting in college, and yeah, illegally arrested for
Speaker 4: protesting in college. And I was part of a class
Speaker 4: action lawsuit against the Metropolitan Police Department in DC and
Speaker 4: we won, and like it was one of the most
Speaker 4: kind of fucked up in traumatic things being detained the
Speaker 4: way I was. I also wasn't a citizen yet. I
Speaker 4: was just a resident alien and like they you know,
Speaker 4: took all of my paperwork, my resident alien card, all
Speaker 4: my shit, Like when the cops betonted off of me,
Speaker 4: I just never got it back. But the amount of
Speaker 4: time and like effort and everything it takes to even
Speaker 4: go through a thing where you would then sue, like
Speaker 4: we ended up changing the law, but the number of
Speaker 4: years that it takes, like and the way that they
Speaker 4: treated us. You know, I was zip tied right hand
Speaker 4: to left foot for like over twelve hours, you know,
Speaker 4: the way they fucking like treated us in jail whatever.
Speaker 4: It just it was super fucked up. But the fact
Speaker 4: that they did that Friday morning, really early before an
Speaker 4: entire weekend of protests, that's pretty much the same tactic here.
Speaker 4: It's like they try to go hard early to discourage protesting,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like in the future, and
Speaker 4: it's the same tactics that Bush used because it was
Speaker 4: they were training in riot year cops for months before this,
Speaker 4: Like it was all they had buses numbered ready to
Speaker 4: go because they were like, we're taking hundreds of people
Speaker 4: off the street. So then for the rest of the
Speaker 4: weekend there's no protests.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So it's like it just like it makes me so
Speaker 4: fucking pissed because these people are gonna get fucked on
Speaker 4: a much much larger scale. What I'm talking about is
Speaker 4: child's play. And it's still was hard to get any
Speaker 4: sort of justice or change the law or have anything
Speaker 4: be different. And I feel like the number one thing
Speaker 4: they tell you when you protest, right, They're like, hey,
Speaker 4: you know, you guys are thugs. You don't use the
Speaker 4: system correctly, Like why don't you use the lawful system?
Speaker 2: And that is what I did in this instance too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's like, okay, well I'll tell you I
Speaker 4: did the actual lawsuit and the lawful thing, and it
Speaker 4: is that is not you think that that's justice or
Speaker 4: that that's really what people should be doing, or that
Speaker 4: that fixes anything. Like obviously, if you are thinking that
Speaker 4: there's the right and wrong way to protest, you also
Speaker 4: are going to think that there is never the right way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, people went to those city council meetings, they gathered signatures,
Speaker 2: they did every they tried it every single way. But again,
Speaker 2: when you have municipality and this bureaucracy, that's just intent,
Speaker 2: like just so intent on making this installation happen no
Speaker 2: matter what, you get these kinds of fucked up measures.
Speaker 2: And yeah, I'd hate to bring up private equity.
Speaker 5: No, don't do it, but it can't have true of
Speaker 5: the biggest corporate backers of cop City are Rourke Capital,
Speaker 5: which is a private equity firm that owns Inspire brands,
Speaker 5: you know, Duncan, RBS, Baskin, Robbins, Buffalo Wild, wings, et cetera.
Speaker 2: Their CEO sits on the board of trustees for the
Speaker 2: Atlanta Police Foundation, and they're raising sixty million dollars from
Speaker 2: corporate donors to build this place. Like, so there's one
Speaker 2: part of it. The other is Silver Lake Management, which
Speaker 2: sounds like a cool maybe talent agency that represents bands
Speaker 2: from the East side of the But no, no, no.
Speaker 4: It sounds like a like a like a land lording agency, right,
Speaker 4: like you rit your apartment from in.
Speaker 2: Silver Lake, right exactly. Silver Lake Management they actually are
Speaker 2: tech focused private equity firm and they have a huge
Speaker 2: steak in Motorola Solutions aka the company that designed the
Speaker 2: surveillance system to make Atlanta the most surveiled city in
Speaker 2: the United States. And they also develop really cool tools
Speaker 2: for use in prisons, the US Mexico border, and surprise, surprise,
Speaker 2: the West Bank. Because we talk about there's this conversation
Speaker 2: of using these sort of like crowd control technologies. They
Speaker 2: start off they use them like abroad, and the West
Speaker 2: Bank fine tune them, and then we end up seeing
Speaker 2: them boomerang onto our own shores, used against our people
Speaker 2: who are exercising their First Amendment rights. So yeah, it's
Speaker 2: wild to think that the ratio of cameras to people
Speaker 2: in Atlanta, it's forty almost forty nine cameras per thousand
Speaker 2: people in Atlanta. That's the highest. It's more than DC,
Speaker 2: it's more than New York City. And you're like, huh huh.
Speaker 1: It also feels like we're seeing like a FUCOS boomerang
Speaker 1: on like the legal president of Like, Okay, we cheered
Speaker 1: when they used this against Trump, and then they're like, okay,
Speaker 1: so you're good, but watch this then, and then watch this.
Speaker 1: We're going to use it against your ability to protest
Speaker 1: against a fucking military installation.
Speaker 4: It's just amazing. These are the people that are like,
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, the Second Amendment is everything. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 4: well what about that other amendment? Yeah, you know, no
Speaker 4: one that protects the right to protest, which you should
Speaker 4: be into because you're so into the law of the
Speaker 4: land right now. No, that amendment, I guess is bullshit.
Speaker 4: The first Amendment. We just don't look at that one.
Speaker 4: That one's just like what epps Yeah.
Speaker 2: And I mean then you look at like even protesters
Speaker 2: that were killed by the police over the court like
Speaker 2: it's this is it's it's it's mind blowing. And yeah,
Speaker 2: now again it's like the Republican Attorney General is like, yeah,
Speaker 2: watch this, I'll use the same grain jury that got
Speaker 2: those charges for Trump and we'll use it for this now. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I think there's a really valid point, Sophia, the
Speaker 1: like they're you, as we see more fear from the wealthy,
Speaker 1: as we see the billionaire owner of Cardier lose more
Speaker 1: sleep over the idea that like, eventually the people are
Speaker 1: going to be pissed that we're billionaires, right, like Youah,
Speaker 1: the more we see that, the more we're going to
Speaker 1: see things like this where they're trying to make an
Speaker 1: example of people protesting. Yeah, I think it's imperative that
Speaker 1: we keep attention on these people and like, you know,
Speaker 1: understand that these are people who are working on our behalf,
Speaker 1: even though I think the mainstream media narrative is not
Speaker 1: always going to be very favorable to the to the
Speaker 1: protesters right.
Speaker 2: Now, and hardly would you hear a thing where it's like, wow,
Speaker 2: they're they're really I mean again, everything is always tinged
Speaker 2: with slightly pro cop bias, right, so they just want
Speaker 2: to make it look like it's a bunch of like
Speaker 2: hippies who want to save the trees in the forest
Speaker 2: when a lot of people like this is again, we're
Speaker 2: ramping up our mill terrized police state in a time
Speaker 2: when all they've proven, all we've seen from our law
Speaker 2: enforcement system is that it doesn't work, doesn't work, it
Speaker 2: doesn't prevent crime. All it does is pile up more
Speaker 2: victims of police brutality. But yeah, these are the stakes
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 4: I think also these strategies, you know, always repeat. It's
Speaker 4: like every single time protesting happens, the way that they
Speaker 4: try to quell it is always tactics that they've used before.
Speaker 4: And I think one of those things is, like that's
Speaker 4: great about the internet is if you go and protest.
Speaker 4: I just want to make that clear to everybody that like,
Speaker 4: you absolutely should if you can, but you should absolutely
Speaker 4: know going out what you should do and not do.
Speaker 4: Have the you know, National Lawyer's Guild number on you,
Speaker 4: like all of the stuff that you absolutely need to
Speaker 4: know you can look up. And it's just I think
Speaker 4: really really important because like a privilege fucking white and
Speaker 4: I was still like an immigrant, which again scared me
Speaker 4: because you know, they charged me, they try to charge
Speaker 4: me with rioting because we asked for food and writing
Speaker 4: is a felony and if that happened, I would have
Speaker 4: been super fucked And like again, privileged white woman still
Speaker 4: was really fucked up experience. And you just need to
Speaker 4: know what you're going in and you need to have
Speaker 4: friends on the outside when you're protesting, so that you
Speaker 4: know they know what the deal is. You have a plan,
Speaker 4: just like, be careful when you do it. That's all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because they ain't playing fair out here.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, they're not all right. If you guys
Speaker 1: heard the game six Degrees with Kevin began.
Speaker 2: Sick pivot, Oh yeah, have you seen this? You guys
Speaker 2: heard about this?
Speaker 3: You see this?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, wait, just got our guest last last time
Speaker 1: when Sofia was almost like the thing the thing that
Speaker 1: is underrated about your podcast is the hurdling changes of peace.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we got to hit them all. This guys
Speaker 1: comes at you quick it does you know? Does your
Speaker 1: newsfeed stop to coddle you and think about your feelings?
Speaker 2: Don't you get a mixture of Apple alerts that are
Speaker 2: like bummer news? And also it's like highly Jenner and
Speaker 2: Timothy Shallow may.
Speaker 1: More the Timothy shallow May relationship updates than I am.
Speaker 4: I mean I just go on the internet. I'm like,
Speaker 4: wowious joke about bussy and then underneath that, like we
Speaker 4: have created another monster voltron of cops. I'm like, that's
Speaker 4: live and.
Speaker 1: Then iron is it good for your city?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Okay, cool, thank you.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, your sexy dark voice is gone.
Speaker 1: I know, my sexy boy smiles. I had the deepest
Speaker 1: voice that I've ever had when you were gone, when
Speaker 1: you were sick. Yeah, gave me like crazy deep voice.
Speaker 4: Yes, I mean not that cool.
Speaker 2: It was still like me. But people or like what's
Speaker 2: that what's the opposite of helium? That that gas? Or
Speaker 2: like you can like yeah, before the super loose that's
Speaker 2: yeah how I felt.
Speaker 4: Especially but everybody loved it. People were csmerized. You could
Speaker 4: tell a that was we're falling for him the fluoride.
Speaker 2: That's what it is.
Speaker 4: They victor like justin everybody falling over it. All.
Speaker 1: Right, So there's a new study from six different nations.
Speaker 1: This is just this is like one of those studies
Speaker 1: where it's like, Wow, you did everything so well to
Speaker 1: like just put this into a press release, and I'm
Speaker 1: not mad at it. You did did a good job. Fine,
Speaker 1: you've gotten my attention. But basically the whole thing they're like,
Speaker 1: the thing about six degrees of ken bacon also happens
Speaker 1: in real life where there's like six degrees of separation,
Speaker 1: And they kind of looked at the math of how
Speaker 1: humans form our friend groups and basically we are constantly evaluating.
Speaker 1: It's very very much sounds like, you know, a scientist
Speaker 1: who has not spent a lot of time around other humans,
Speaker 1: like observing humans because they're like human is constantly evaluating
Speaker 1: the cost benefit of keeping the old relationship alive or
Speaker 1: making a new friend.
Speaker 4: And he did the study because he wanted a.
Speaker 1: Friend totally, why do we do anything right? And I
Speaker 1: probably read it because of that. But the study like
Speaker 1: spends a lot of time basically explaining why people have
Speaker 1: and they're just very confused about that.
Speaker 4: I think that's pretty sweet of that article, I know,
Speaker 4: isn't it.
Speaker 1: I kind of love it, But interesting details. The Nash equilibrium,
Speaker 1: like the point at which people have no further incentive
Speaker 1: to go incentive to go outward with their friend making
Speaker 1: or inward with their friend pruning, usually lands at a
Speaker 1: place that averages out to six degrees of separation from
Speaker 1: like everyone else on the planet, which is wild, but
Speaker 1: that that's the I mean, it makes sense. Like I
Speaker 1: assumed it was going to be something about like network
Speaker 1: dynamics and like how you know, over over time, you're
Speaker 1: like sort of compounding the number of like just you know,
Speaker 1: three degrees of separation away. You've like compounded the number
Speaker 1: of people that everyone knows. But it's also about how
Speaker 1: like the sizes of those groups that each person is
Speaker 1: connected to well different, you know, work out to an
Speaker 1: average of about an average of about six huh.
Speaker 4: How so, but that wouldn't have been true pre Internet.
Speaker 1: I think it has been true. That's the thing.
Speaker 2: Like I think it's pre Internet, right that yeah, ye existed,
Speaker 2: So like.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, I just mean, oh, I just mean,
Speaker 4: do you really? I guess I was thinking, like it's
Speaker 4: easy for me to think of being six degrees away
Speaker 4: from anyone on the planet, like with the Internet, and
Speaker 4: like also just like oh, you have a friend that
Speaker 4: lives in this country and blah blah blah blah blah. Right,
Speaker 4: but I'm thinking.
Speaker 1: Track, yeah, yeah, right, right, right, So I didn't know
Speaker 1: the origin of the experiment or of the idea of
Speaker 1: six degrees. It's actually Milgram, you know, the guy who
Speaker 1: like gets the experiment. Yeah, it's the famous shocks experiment
Speaker 1: where people come into a lab and it was based
Speaker 1: on like the trials of Nazi prison camp guards at
Speaker 1: the Hug and how they were like, we were just
Speaker 1: following orders, and so he did this experiment show that
Speaker 1: people will continuously shock people whether or not. So basically
Speaker 1: the people weren't actually being shocked, but a person a
Speaker 1: white lab coat is like, keep keep administrating.
Speaker 4: Basically he wouldn't see the person the person who was
Speaker 4: administering the shocks quote unquote, would hear someone's sounds of pain, yeah,
Speaker 4: but that person was acting, but the person who was
Speaker 4: shocking them didn't know they were acting, right. So then
Speaker 4: what later churned out in addition to the result of like,
Speaker 4: oh yeah, people will straight up just follow orders because
Speaker 4: a guy I know lab coat was like keep shocking.
Speaker 4: But the other thing that came out of it is
Speaker 4: a lot of ethics stuff for how you run studies,
Speaker 4: because the people that were fake shocking, once they found
Speaker 4: out it was fake, they were like super fucking traumatized.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and not really.
Speaker 4: My life knowing that essentially you used me to prove
Speaker 4: that I could be a Nazi.
Speaker 1: A Nazi, go lay down, you know what.
Speaker 2: I just fallen orders, man, you just fallen orders.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And there are other things about the design of
Speaker 1: that experiment and like how so like some people might
Speaker 1: have really known that they were acting and who knows.
Speaker 1: But the other big experiment he did that I was
Speaker 1: not as familiar with was they basically tried to connect
Speaker 1: two people in as few steps as possible, just by
Speaker 1: like sending out this brown paper package and being like, Hey,
Speaker 1: we're trying to get this to a divinity student in Boston.
Speaker 1: You are a farmer in Iowa that we've randomly selected
Speaker 1: from the entire population of the US, like go. And
Speaker 1: what they found they were like, oh, well, I know
Speaker 1: this episcopalian like in my town. The episcopalian was like,
Speaker 1: I actually know somebody who I met at an Episcopalian
Speaker 1: conference who's from Boston. And they got this package to
Speaker 1: this randomly selected divinity student and like a matter of
Speaker 1: six degrees and they they found that to be kind
Speaker 1: of consistently the case when they ran this experiment. And
Speaker 1: the thing that I hadn't fully appreciated is like they
Speaker 1: also asked people before this experiment, like what would you
Speaker 1: think the results would be?
Speaker 2: And like that how many steps would it take?
Speaker 1: Yeah? How many steps? And that that is like you know,
Speaker 1: I've known the six degrees of separation. I've known that phrase. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've known that that that is a Will Smith movie
Speaker 1: since I was, you know, properly storing memory. So I
Speaker 1: don't know what my guess would be. But the guess
Speaker 1: has ranged from like one hundred to one thousand two,
Speaker 1: people being like you'll never connect them, like it'll just
Speaker 1: like why would you ever be able to connect to
Speaker 1: random people? Like the world is so big and some massive.
Speaker 4: Twelve for some reason, really like ten or twelve. I think,
Speaker 4: what would you have guessed?
Speaker 1: I think I would have guessed a few words. One hundred.
Speaker 4: Yeah, if no one had said anything about six degrees
Speaker 4: of whatever ever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would probably think one hundred. Feels like I
Speaker 2: could do it within a hundred.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: It feels like a sake that it is. It is
Speaker 2: a little mind blowing. You're like, will probably take less
Speaker 2: than ten You're like, really, yeah, it seems Yeah.
Speaker 4: The fact that it's single digits, I think, like totally.
Speaker 1: Fucks me up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly fucks.
Speaker 1: Me up the way my voice fucked up everybody last
Speaker 1: week sucked up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Miles, you better listen to that episode if you
Speaker 4: respect your list.
Speaker 2: And I get all self conscious and that come on
Speaker 2: tomorrows episode, Like, so we'll sell.
Speaker 4: Be able to record anymore because you're just blushing so
Speaker 4: hard the entire time.
Speaker 2: Just talking to me with that voice. Yeah, but I.
Speaker 4: Mean, like, stop putting yourself on camera because people can't
Speaker 4: handle it. Just can't. You can't be on.
Speaker 2: Zoom it's hard, like, so now they can. So how
Speaker 2: you can apply this now to all kinds of sort
Speaker 2: of like network mapping, right, if you kind of know
Speaker 2: this to be sort of it averages out to around
Speaker 2: six no matter what helps like with all kinds of
Speaker 2: like I guess you know how we look at pandemics
Speaker 2: or other network dynamic or network dynamic dependent phenomena.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's six infection cycles and the whole world has.
Speaker 1: The fucking thing is like kind of the dark side
Speaker 1: of this finding is you know, it spreads quick right,
Speaker 1: And I think this is true of also like social contagion,
Speaker 1: like the how quickly ideas spread, you know, because that's
Speaker 1: the thing that spreads over over social media like faster
Speaker 1: than it ever has and so I think we're less stable,
Speaker 1: like across wide geographic margins than we ever have been,
Speaker 1: Like we're more socift two ideas that come in and
Speaker 1: sweep through and change things. And it's definitely like a
Speaker 1: power a powerful study because they yeah, they specifically say,
Speaker 1: when we did the math, we discovered an amazing result.
Speaker 1: This process always ends with social paths centered around the
Speaker 1: number six. Each individual acts independently without knowing the network
Speaker 1: as a whole, yet this self driven game shapes the
Speaker 1: structure of the entire network, leading to the small world
Speaker 1: phenomenon and the recurring pattern of six degrees.
Speaker 4: That's fucking crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's yeah, the small world. It is funny that
Speaker 2: like when we went to a museum in like London,
Speaker 2: we ran into somebody who her magics you didn't even know,
Speaker 2: but came to find out they were at the same
Speaker 2: college at the same time, randomly like helping a stranger
Speaker 2: up the steps with a baby stroller and we had
Speaker 2: one too, and then started talking and then it just like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: my husband went there. And then it's like, what the fuck,
Speaker 2: that's crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it wasn't even a thing where you were like
Speaker 1: wearing the same sweatshirt and like noticed each other.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, not at all. Just you just have
Speaker 2: groups of parents college had on waving upon.
Speaker 4: Yeah, does this guy think he is before run into
Speaker 4: the same people when I'm visiting a place like a
Speaker 4: different like during my vacation or whatever, like at a
Speaker 4: lot of different places and not like tourist attractions. You
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. It happened to you ever, that
Speaker 4: happened to me this weekend.
Speaker 1: The Huntington Park or the Huntington Library, whatever the fuck
Speaker 1: that thing is. Yeah, it's not in gardens, but it's
Speaker 1: an amazing huge garden. And like we arrived with like
Speaker 1: three different groups of people like just in line at
Speaker 1: the same time, and like kept seeing them. We were
Speaker 1: just like on the same we would like circulate going
Speaker 1: like all these weird different directions and like kept seeing
Speaker 1: those same people.
Speaker 4: And it's a big ass park, so many different ways
Speaker 4: to go. It's like not or when I rented my
Speaker 4: place in Paris, I knew one person there and he
Speaker 4: was like, oh, what's your address? And I gave it
Speaker 4: to him and he started laughing. And he's my friend.
Speaker 2: He's half a block.
Speaker 4: His place was half a block away. Oh wow, really
Speaker 4: I knew one person in all of Paris and ended
Speaker 4: up renting an Airbnb. Huge.
Speaker 1: It's like ten twelve blocks. It's so big. Find no
Speaker 1: Paris like it's you got the Eiffel Tower. You got
Speaker 1: a couple streets on the left side of the Eiffel Tower,
Speaker 1: the right.
Speaker 4: Done, there's the river. We're done.
Speaker 2: Got the sports, the champs. Sports at least got it all.
Speaker 1: See. So he comes back, so culture.
Speaker 4: Yeah, champs head, me too, the camps.
Speaker 1: Yeah, amazing. All right, Well, let's take another quick break
Speaker 1: and we'll come back and talk about Donald Trump.
Speaker 3: We'll be right back, and we're back.
Speaker 1: And there just seems to be this thing happening on
Speaker 1: the right where they really think Trump's going to be assassinated.
Speaker 1: Feels like there might be like some wishful like you know,
Speaker 1: Tuger Carlson, I think has been like horny for a
Speaker 1: civil war for a long time, and I feel like
Speaker 1: he senses that maybe this is his best shot at it.
Speaker 1: And so he took a few minutes away from his
Speaker 1: busy schedule filming angry Twitter videos in a sadness shack
Speaker 1: in the woods to appear on the Adam Carolla podcast. Okay,
Speaker 1: you know, just just really love cutting it up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, to see Corolla still like a round somehow like
Speaker 4: be worse than when he like invented The Man Show, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 2: The fork in the road of The Man Show with
Speaker 2: Kimmel and Corolla.
Speaker 4: Is what I keep thinking. It's like, uh, you know,
Speaker 4: it's like one of them like turned.
Speaker 2: Or on, or one was always there the whole time.
Speaker 2: You know, like it's yeah, like this is what it
Speaker 2: turns into. Because also, like you think of love line too,
Speaker 2: because even Doctor Drew is also you know, he's he's
Speaker 2: on that he's on that sort of right path too.
Speaker 1: But we've got a lot of videos of doctor Drew
Speaker 1: doing curls and talking to me being like, hey, guys,
Speaker 1: Drew like doing like curls, like telling me about like
Speaker 1: all the things I need to know about his fucking
Speaker 1: bodybuilding formula.
Speaker 4: All I keep thinking is how we listen to so
Speaker 4: much Loveline growing up, and we were like, this is
Speaker 4: the ship right now, and all of it was just
Speaker 4: Doctor Drew telling women with high voices that they were molested, right,
Speaker 4: and we were like, this is sick. You're like I'm
Speaker 4: gonna listen to it again tomorrow night. Why we were
Speaker 4: so fucked up? We're so damaged?
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean, And I think to your point about
Speaker 2: how you like you have to write articles about proper
Speaker 2: digital stimulation of the genitals, you know, and like you
Speaker 2: get like the worst sex advice from Adam Carolla when
Speaker 2: you're thirteen. I was just like, I just remember too,
Speaker 2: because like I had a radio that if the speakers
Speaker 2: were on, my mom would be like I thought, I
Speaker 2: thought you, I told you to go to sleep. So
Speaker 2: I had to like it.
Speaker 4: I got.
Speaker 2: I had to get a headphone jack that will go
Speaker 2: long enough that I could kind of be in my
Speaker 2: bed so if my mom checked, I could like fucking
Speaker 2: throw the headphones off and it wouldn't look like I
Speaker 2: was listening to love Line, and I was just mainlining
Speaker 2: the most regressive shit ever, and then coming away with
Speaker 2: being like I'm a man of the twenty first century,
Speaker 2: thank you, Yes.
Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm a feminist. Let's put on another episode
Speaker 4: of fucking love Line. What the fuck?
Speaker 1: But so he had he had Tuger Carlson on because
Speaker 1: that's where he's at right these days, Corolla. And when
Speaker 1: I asked about Trump's future, Carlson said that he was
Speaker 1: speeding towards assassination. Obviously, if you begin with criticism, then
Speaker 1: you go to protest, then you go to impeachment. Now
Speaker 1: you go to indictments and none of them work. What's next?
Speaker 1: Graph it out? Man, We're speeding toward assassination. Obviously.
Speaker 4: That's a good Tucker Carlson. The graph it out especially,
Speaker 4: great job in the bow tie too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do. I did put on my bow tie
Speaker 1: and put just as quick style.
Speaker 4: But style.
Speaker 1: He does have swoopy beings.
Speaker 4: He sure does. I went to g W where they
Speaker 4: filmed Crossfire, Yeah, and I protested during it and got
Speaker 4: kicked out the banner against the war and uh in
Speaker 4: a rock and they were like, yeah, I get the
Speaker 4: fuck out forever.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of dudes from Virginia that look exactly
Speaker 1: like Tucker Carlson. Yeah.
Speaker 2: But they're walking around georgetowns Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4: Especially twelve. It's fucked up.
Speaker 2: It is wild. Hey, he's still managing it.
Speaker 4: It's like the cover of Mad magazine. What are we doing?
Speaker 2: Alfredy Newman? But like the fast version.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he he actually brought this up in his
Speaker 1: interview with Trump in August, he was like, so, were
Speaker 1: you afraid someone's gonna like what it's coming for you?
Speaker 1: And Trump was just like, yeah, you know, moving along.
Speaker 4: It sounds like he's manifesting it, does doesn't It sounds
Speaker 4: like Tucker's like manifesting Trump getting assassinated or just psyching
Speaker 4: himself up to do it, because it is incredibly weird
Speaker 4: to be the only person talking about it. It's like
Speaker 4: if you like, go out on a date with a
Speaker 4: guy and he's like, don't worry, I'm not going to
Speaker 4: murder you, and you're like, hold on what I didn't
Speaker 4: think that? But why would you bring that up like that?
Speaker 4: They're like, no, no, you're not. Just want to make it
Speaker 4: clear I will not murder you.
Speaker 2: But follow up question, are you worried that you could
Speaker 2: get ordered leg anytime soon? Just putting that out there,
Speaker 2: not to the universe, was just like, I'm positing that
Speaker 2: question anyway.
Speaker 4: I want to order your drink?
Speaker 1: Yeah, let me order it for you. Actually, you can
Speaker 1: go to the bathroom. All'll order it. He now that
Speaker 1: he's saying this like everyone's that Like. Dan Bongino picked
Speaker 1: it up, Alex Jones picked it up although Alex Jones
Speaker 1: has obviously been saying something similar for a while now.
Speaker 1: Back in June, Alex Jones claimed that Trump would soon
Speaker 1: be assassinated by the deep state establishment. Also back in
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, Jones was claiming that there was a plot
Speaker 1: to assassinate Trump. Information he obtained thanks to a friendly
Speaker 1: call from a Secret Service agent. So that's pretty heavily
Speaker 1: sourced information about Like that's kind of their main thing,
Speaker 1: the Secret Services.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, if you believe that. I think it was
Speaker 4: just Trump the way he pretended to be his own
Speaker 4: like PR guy and all of these other people. He
Speaker 4: was like, let me really quickly become a secret.
Speaker 2: Hello, I am agent, uh secret of the Secret Service.
Speaker 4: Rum.
Speaker 2: Yes, right, I'm a Secret Service agent. Okay, a Secret
Speaker 2: Service agent. What's your first name?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Let Homer Simpson on him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, believe you have a package for me.
Speaker 1: But they actually hyped a fake assassination plot during the
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen election which I only vaguely remembered, But it
Speaker 1: was during a rally and reno and he was rushed
Speaker 1: off stage by Secret Service after someone shouted gun and
Speaker 1: a suspect was apprehended and then he took to the
Speaker 1: stage again and finished a speech proclaiming we will never
Speaker 1: be stopped, which seems like he's like it's kind of
Speaker 1: like his posture now right that he's like his never
Speaker 1: surrender like coffee mugs with his mug shot of him
Speaker 1: surrendering or going like hot cakes, I have to imagine
Speaker 1: and by the way.
Speaker 4: To assume that he has the health to like survive.
Speaker 1: Well that's the point. That's where like his own body,
Speaker 1: he's fucking seventy seven and like overweight and eats like shit,
Speaker 1: and now he's like his weight a yo yoing because
Speaker 1: I think he's on ozempic like, which is can't be
Speaker 1: healthy for him. Like this is like there's so.
Speaker 4: Many man that literally doesn't believe in exercise because he
Speaker 4: thinks you're the muscles more it uses them up.
Speaker 1: You only have so many heartbeats, so what I'm gonna
Speaker 1: speed up my heartbeat and get it to do too
Speaker 1: many beats? And then that.
Speaker 2: Movie, Yeah it ain't happening with was that Jessica justin
Speaker 2: Timberlake about like that one like weird sci fi movie
Speaker 2: or like you have to keep buying time for your
Speaker 2: body to live and shit, Yeah, he's probably on that
Speaker 2: sort of like logic path.
Speaker 1: But just in time is that?
Speaker 2: Yeah? That I think that's what?
Speaker 1: Also what just in time? Justin Timberlake, I don't think
Speaker 1: I think it's called like in time or yeah, out
Speaker 1: of time.
Speaker 4: Well, that's a missed opportunity for just in time.
Speaker 1: They really should have done just in time.
Speaker 4: If he hasn't released that album yet.
Speaker 2: In time in time.
Speaker 1: They definitely had it as just in Time for a
Speaker 1: while and got cold feet at the end because just.
Speaker 2: In Time ber Lake kind of a wonky title, But
Speaker 2: we're going for it just.
Speaker 1: In time Colin Berlake.
Speaker 2: But you get like I get why. Also you need
Speaker 2: the sort of you have to raise the specter of
Speaker 2: some some ghoulish act happening against your dear leader, because
Speaker 2: what they need to do is activate people's sort of instinct.
Speaker 2: I want to protect Trump at every cost. So if
Speaker 2: this is more of a threat, then that makes everything
Speaker 2: people a little bit more invested in being like, we
Speaker 2: have to protect Trump from every dimension existential threat that exists,
Speaker 2: whether it's the legal system or some rogue bard who
Speaker 2: just wants to go off, you know, and do something
Speaker 2: terrible to him.
Speaker 4: Right, Also, these people make a living off of sensationalism,
Speaker 4: like at Alex Jones and them, like you know, of
Speaker 4: course they run with any piece of anything sensational, So
Speaker 4: like the Trump assassination thing had to be said like
Speaker 4: one time and then that's it. Like now they have
Speaker 4: a new narrative to like play with because they're like, oh,
Speaker 4: finally we really needed, like, you know, an event for
Speaker 4: this week's like insane you know show podcast, whatever it
Speaker 4: is that the right wing person's doing, you know. And
Speaker 4: it's also like all such a soap opera that like
Speaker 4: eventually you run out of storylines, right yeah, So it's
Speaker 4: like you're watching you know, whatever Days of our Lives
Speaker 4: on its like one hundredth seasons. So you're like, I
Speaker 4: guess now we have to do the assassination.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, hy you know body, We've already done body
Speaker 2: doubles like nine times, so I guess we could do
Speaker 2: the coma and he comes out a different person and
Speaker 2: then we debate whether he's the same person that went
Speaker 2: into the coma.
Speaker 1: Then that would be the third time this year that
Speaker 1: we did that plot. But just saying I'm not saying
Speaker 1: it's the reason not to do it. I'm just saying
Speaker 1: we've done it three times.
Speaker 2: I think we're already doing it with like yeah, McConnell
Speaker 2: and stuff too. Or it's like, you know, who knows
Speaker 2: if that's the same guy from a few months ago
Speaker 2: who his batteries keep running out on stage.
Speaker 4: It's like, weird, he did all of the things.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So like aliens are next, folks, they're next.
Speaker 4: Maybe I got one. Is he pregnant? Should we do
Speaker 4: that next?
Speaker 2: He's pregnant next. Yes, And that's why he's gonna come
Speaker 2: around on reproductive rights because he himself is now pregnant
Speaker 2: and understands what is going on.
Speaker 4: With say, okay, we've never done anything like this. It
Speaker 4: could be really cool and transgressive. I think we could
Speaker 4: get a daytime emmy. Yeah, that's me being a terrible writer.
Speaker 4: That's a scab during the writer's strike, just coming through,
Speaker 4: uh suggesting whatever the orange.
Speaker 2: Yeah, have we tried this? I mean, this is a
Speaker 2: pilot I was working on, but we may be able
Speaker 2: to adapt it for Trump.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, maybe we can cut out some of
Speaker 4: this dialogue from this other script.
Speaker 1: Donald Trump Junior back then suggested that the guy was
Speaker 1: hired by the DNC, and it turns out the guy
Speaker 1: was not an assassin. He was holding up a sign
Speaker 1: that said Republicans against Trump because he was a Republican,
Speaker 1: and somebody shouted gun.
Speaker 4: But super funny, the call was coming from inside the house.
Speaker 4: They're like, oh no, what do we do? It says Republican.
Speaker 4: We like that? Ohream gun Trump? Oh shit.
Speaker 1: Also circuit right, So that one, even though there was
Speaker 1: absolutely no truth to it, was just a Republican holding
Speaker 1: up a sign that they somehow thought was a gun.
Speaker 1: Because Trump's people kept claiming that he had survived an
Speaker 1: assassination attempt. The following Trump rally, the guy introducing him
Speaker 1: flat out said there was an attempt of murder against
Speaker 1: Trump in Nevada. But then when someone actually tried to
Speaker 1: kill Trump the same year, nobody made a big deal
Speaker 1: about it, even though the guy was an illegal immigrant.
Speaker 1: And the reason for that is because it was a
Speaker 1: twenty one year or a twenty year old white kid
Speaker 1: from England with mental health issues, and so it didn't
Speaker 1: fit his campaign narrative.
Speaker 2: So it was just can we say, can we say
Speaker 2: he was in MS thirteen?
Speaker 1: If we know, I don't think anyone's gonna buy it. Also,
Speaker 1: he just tried to grab the gun of a cop
Speaker 1: nearby to.
Speaker 4: Wait a minute, what color was the cop?
Speaker 1: Maybe we can work with something here, Maybe the cop.
Speaker 2: The cop was in MS thirteen working in cahoots with
Speaker 2: this illegal immigrant who was meant to bleach his skinned
Speaker 2: fit in.
Speaker 4: See that's a plot line. You know what I'm saying, Like, that's.
Speaker 1: Is how you write daytime television.
Speaker 2: We won We want TV.
Speaker 1: Well, Sophia, such a pleasure having you as always on
Speaker 1: the podcast. Guys, where do people find you? Follow you?
Speaker 1: All that good stuff?
Speaker 4: You should definitely listen to my podcast with Miles about
Speaker 4: ninety day fiance called four to twenty Day Fiance. It's
Speaker 4: so fun. It's a lot of bits. The bits are pretty.
Speaker 2: They're troubling.
Speaker 4: The bits that there's too many, they're amazing bits. You
Speaker 4: will you will be on so many inside jokes. You
Speaker 4: will feel like you are so in high school, but
Speaker 4: like in the cool group, you know.
Speaker 2: The cool group of the kids.
Speaker 4: I don't know what I'm saying. I'm like, why would
Speaker 4: I even say that all of that back, It's just
Speaker 4: a fun podcast.
Speaker 1: And we're making fun of nerds.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, I'm like, what am I saying? I
Speaker 4: read all of the Robert Jordan books twice. What am
Speaker 4: I saying right now? You're the nerds just the coolest
Speaker 4: right here? Uh yeah, anyway, listen to that podcast and
Speaker 4: uh also you can listen to my stand up album
Speaker 4: Father's Day wherever you want. And I'm at the Sophia
Speaker 4: so f I y A there you everything.
Speaker 1: Is there a workimedia that you've been enjoying?
Speaker 4: Yes? There is? I love this tweet bye at Dear Lucy.
Speaker 4: And it's a photo she says, saw this yesterday and
Speaker 4: it's a haunted picture of a child, which I think
Speaker 4: is delightful. And on it is a note that says
Speaker 4: she's back three exclamation points, sold twice and returned twice.
Speaker 4: Are you brave enough? Or three question marks?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 4: And they're charging twenty bucks for it?
Speaker 1: DZ. Do we know where this is? Is it? At
Speaker 1: like a second, I think.
Speaker 4: It's I think it's somewhere in England?
Speaker 1: Wow?
Speaker 4: So yes, I don't know. Holy shit, I'm obsessed with it.
Speaker 4: That's kind of my favorite thing I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: Amazing miles. Where can people find you? Is there a
Speaker 1: work of media you've been enjoying?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, find me on Twitter, Instagram at symbol based
Speaker 2: places at Miles of Gray. Obviously you heard about four
Speaker 2: to twenty Day Fiance. You know about Miles and Jack
Speaker 2: got Mad boosties. And also, if you like, you know
Speaker 2: the true crime show that doesn't involve people getting murdered
Speaker 2: needlessly or horribly tortured, check out The Good Thief where
Speaker 2: I talk about Vasili's palocostis the Greek robin Hood, which
Speaker 2: is really, really, really good, I must say, tweet I
Speaker 2: like it's from Caitlyn Jeffers at jeff Er not tweeted,
Speaker 2: and just like that, It's nine to eleven season.
Speaker 4: Get the pumpkins out, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Get them out.
Speaker 1: Eleven pumpkin spice. Oh yeah, a mere week away. Let's
Speaker 1: see some tweets I've been enjoying, guys. Tony P. T
Speaker 1: Bone seventy two nineteen tweeted, every time I turn around
Speaker 1: in someone's driveway, I feel like an angry mob will
Speaker 1: come running out of the house carrying torches and pitchforks.
Speaker 2: That is just very so real.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: And at Mike Mitch nh I'm assuming that is a
Speaker 1: Mike Mitchell from New Hampshire tweeted, if you want to
Speaker 1: know how the week is going, I just took a
Speaker 1: pillowcase out of the dryer, put it over my head
Speaker 1: thinking it was a T shirt to wear it a bed,
Speaker 1: spent fifteen seconds inside it, searching for the neck hole,
Speaker 1: and then mumbled, what is this pants? I've never identified more?
Speaker 1: I've never identified more. You can find me on Twitter
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Speaker 1: footnotes where we link off the information that we talked
Speaker 1: about in today's episode, as well as a song that
Speaker 1: we think you might enjoy. Miles, is there a song
Speaker 1: besides just stray mandolin music that you think people might enjoy?
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, actually, Holly, pull up their bio.
Speaker 4: You'll be like, have you heard of a little known
Speaker 4: Italian band under your brothers? And then he just whips
Speaker 4: out this this crazy mandolin solo. We're like, oh my god, no,
Speaker 4: we haven't rip.
Speaker 1: Okay, it is this song though under.
Speaker 4: No no no, no, no, no, no, no no no.
Speaker 1: Italian Italian? Is that the one that goes time to
Speaker 1: say goodbye? Or is had an anga song.
Speaker 2: No you're talking about Mai anyway that plays.
Speaker 4: We really need a deep voice, Jack for this one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, fuck, we're gonna go out on this track. It's
Speaker 2: called Duana w A n A by Nor n O.
Speaker 2: You are. I don't know what language this is because Jack,
Speaker 2: I don't know if you mean. I know you were
Speaker 2: talking about it in our document about like language is
Speaker 2: like foreign language songs and how noible songs are.
Speaker 1: I was talking about how like I memorize lyrics that
Speaker 1: I have completely wrong in my head, and how like
Speaker 1: just the feeling of the voice, like sometimes I prefer
Speaker 1: having like not knowing what is being said. And I've
Speaker 1: been listening to a lot of Spanish language music lately
Speaker 1: with that mind.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So, yeah, this is Nor. She's actually from Egypt,
Speaker 2: and you know it's like a mix of like English
Speaker 2: and Arab lyrics, but like the it's just I don't know, man,
Speaker 2: I'm just loving all music coming across out from all
Speaker 2: over the world because it's it's just so damn good
Speaker 2: and we're probably only six degrees of separation Nor you
Speaker 2: and I, so I invite you to come on. But anyway,
Speaker 2: this is Nor with Wanna really dope really dope track.
Speaker 1: All right, well, we will link off to that in
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