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Speaker 2: and learn more about him at William Gazek dot com.

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Speaker 2: the William part right. Gazet Key is g a z

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Speaker 2: that's where you can learn a whole lot more about him.

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Speaker 2: He's got different documentaries out there. One of the ones

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Speaker 2: that we'll mention here for sure is Crop Circles the movie,

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Speaker 2: So you can also go to Crop Circles themovie dot

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Speaker 2: com and learn more about that. But I think just

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Speaker 2: even going to William Gazeki, you'll you'll nail it all.

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Speaker 2: But why I wanted to bring that up is it's

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Speaker 2: a it's a great film to watch, and William also

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Speaker 2: has an update on the crop Circles. So Crop Circles

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Speaker 2: the movie, it's a great movie. William did a great

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Speaker 2: job on it is so interesting. You know, some of

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Speaker 2: these films that people put together with this can be

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Speaker 2: you know, not so not so exciting. Yours is really

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Speaker 2: just loaded full of information and just learned a lot,

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Speaker 2: learned a lot, but I imagine you did too.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's you know, the crops phenomena has been

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Speaker 3: a part of my life since the mid nineties, so

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Speaker 3: it's been it's been quite some time. And there's a

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Speaker 3: relationship there. You know, there is a I have seen

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Speaker 3: you know, around has been around me for a long time.

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Speaker 3: And I wanted to share about my first crop circle experience,

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Speaker 3: new film. I'm doing a follow up film on the

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Speaker 2: And you know what, I appreciate you saying that, because

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Speaker 2: William I got to tell you. You know, a friend of

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Speaker 2: and at one point he mentioned the crop circles and

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Speaker 3: There's plenty of evidence that demonstrates that the crop circle

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Speaker 3: just a stone cold fact. Even the people that make

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a whole other film.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well I don't understand, but I've never been a

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Speaker 2: Well, tell us about what you what you experienced.

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Speaker 3: Well I first came encountered all of this in the

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Speaker 3: I mean, the playfulness and the and it was a

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Speaker 2: That's like it was for you, like, hello, William, how

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Speaker 3: I know, I mean everybody thought it was for them.

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Speaker 3: that as I was making that film, some incredible things happened.

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Speaker 3: In two thousand and one. The Glactic Spiral appeared. The

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Speaker 3: Galactic Spiral in two thousand and one, with the largest

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Speaker 3: crosser goal crop formation to ever appear anywhere there's four

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Speaker 3: this the story I just told you. I don't think

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you, we appreciate that. Yeah, thank you. No, really,

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Speaker 2: I mean I meant that seriously. I wasn't being cocky.

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Speaker 2: What I just learned too, is you're right, and you

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Speaker 2: know you correct it yourself. You said crop circles, no formation.

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Speaker 2: You're right. There's circles, then there's formations, because they're not

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Speaker 2: all circles. Some of these are just, I mean unreal. Now,

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Speaker 3: Right? From what we can tell, the plants are bent

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Speaker 2: And every one of them, not one or two, every

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, Well that's you know, that's why

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Speaker 3: we call it magic. Are ignorant? Humans know nothing, but

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Speaker 3: it appears, you know, and gravity seems to be possibly

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Speaker 3: some sort of some form of gravity control that allows

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Speaker 3: the plants to bend over. But the other thing is

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Speaker 3: You know, there's no ambiguity about where the edge of

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Speaker 3: laid down in various kinds of swirls, counterclockwise, clockwise, swirls,

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Speaker 3: underneath swirls. There's all sorts of ways in which the

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Speaker 3: plants are manipulated. That could never be done with a

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Speaker 3: board in a rope just can't be done. Yeah, and

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Speaker 3: plus the fresh ones. You know, there are still people

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Speaker 3: who get up at five o'clock in the morning, four

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Speaker 3: o'clock in the morning drive around wheelchair looking for new formation.

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Speaker 3: And that was always when I was over there, that

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Speaker 3: and drive around looking for these things. And one of

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Speaker 3: the things about a new one is there's no footprints.

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Speaker 3: There's no footprints, no sign of any kind of human

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Speaker 3: presence at all. And the ones that are human made,

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Speaker 3: they're also the plants are all snatched down, everything's broken,

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Speaker 3: you know, and it's obvious that they were made by

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Speaker 3: a somewhat violent manner, whereas the authentic ones are very

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Speaker 3: gracefully the plants are very gracefully laid down. That's why

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Speaker 3: it makes it so much fun being over there, too,

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Speaker 3: go visit one.

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Speaker 2: Is on that feel did you pick up a vibe

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Speaker 2: or anything?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh, it's such a tree. You know. What

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Speaker 3: they say about cropstacles is that if you're a ballerina,

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Speaker 3: you get better at ballet, right, and if you're a

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Speaker 3: you know, whatever, you get better at well. I'm a

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Speaker 3: zen Buddhist, So what I experienced over there was a

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Speaker 3: was a wonderful kind of It's a delicious elated it's

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Speaker 3: not extreme, but it's very pleasant and positive. You know,

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Speaker 3: there's nothing about the crop circles that's ever scary. That's

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Speaker 3: that's the other thing I like about it, you know,

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Speaker 3: I mean, the UFO world can be terrifying in any

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Speaker 3: different ways, and for good reason, yeah, but are never scary.

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Speaker 3: They're delightful and they're they're fun to be around. The

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Speaker 3: only you know, this issue about whether they're human, nade

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Speaker 3: I'm concerned. But I will say this if I haven't

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Speaker 3: said it, all right, and that is that the people

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Speaker 3: real circle makers, you know, you know, the actual intelligences

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Speaker 3: that make the authentic ones are have contact in some

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Speaker 3: and making the sake ones. That's an interesting process. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's one big happy balley.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well we got about a minute. So let me

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Speaker 2: ask you this, what do you think is making them?

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Speaker 3: Oh gosh, I've never heard that question before.

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Speaker 2: Honey, Well you got less than a minute.

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Speaker 3: Now, it's an interdimensional intelligence. So again, it's an interdimensional intelligence. Okay,

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Speaker 3: So it's a real intelligence, just like we have brands

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Speaker 3: and then we have smarts, but it doesn't live in

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Speaker 3: the world that we live in. It comes from its

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Speaker 3: own world.

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Speaker 2: And it comes here to put on a show, to

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Speaker 2: give us a smile, to give us.

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Speaker 3: Well, yes, they're definitely communicating. Yes, no doubt in my

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