1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: Fellow Ridiculous historians. This is part two of our two 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:08,959 Speaker 1: part series with our new colleagues and friends of the show, 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: the host of Ridiculous Crime. We're very excited. We wanted 4 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 1: to give you a quick disclaimer though, if you is 5 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 1: a two part disclaimer, right, This is part two of 6 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:21,959 Speaker 1: our two part disclaimer. Um, the same goes for the 7 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: first one. I don't think much is different here, but 8 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 1: we just thought he has a courtesy reminds you that 9 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: there are a couple of little techy glitches that we 10 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: ran into, but super Producer Max mainly spend everything out. 11 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 1: You probably won't even notice. We're probably overthinking it, but 12 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: here we are. Disclaimer part two. Listen at your own peril. 13 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 1: Actually it'll be more like your own elate, elatedness. It's 14 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: a great episode. Yeah, we can't we cannot wait to 15 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:52,239 Speaker 1: uh ruin uh several several notable Hollywood celebrities for you. 16 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: But we get into some really interesting history here as well. 17 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: And I think it's a great taste of what what 18 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: are friends over Ridiculous Crime doing. I mean, I don't 19 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: know about Ruin when it comes to Diamond Dave, my friend. 20 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: Oh that's true. No, there's a redemption arc here. Yeah. 21 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: If anything, that guy is even more holy in my eyes. 22 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 1: So welcome to the show, folks. We can't wait for 23 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: you to hear us get converted to the to the 24 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: Church of Mr David Lee Roth courtesy of Elizabeth Dutton 25 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:27,119 Speaker 1: and no you you in this one. You introduced me 26 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 1: to uh hilarious side of John Wayne that I wasn't 27 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: aware of most people won't stay Ben Bullen, that guy 28 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: is the biggest John Wayne fan. But also I think 29 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 1: we had some good voices in this one, I hope 30 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: so John and John Wayne voice isn't the easiest one 31 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: in the place. I do have to say that a 32 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: little peak behind my personal curtain, I have a very 33 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: small bust of John Wayne on one of my turntable speakers. 34 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: It was given to me by a friend years ago. 35 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: It's like one of those weird thrist store fines and 36 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: part of his hat is chipped off. But he's just 37 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: too cool to take down. Uh, just like these podcast 38 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: episodes were too good not to put out because of 39 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: a silly old recording glitch. So here you go. Ridiculous 40 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: History is a production of I Heart Radio. Welcome back 41 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,839 Speaker 1: to the show Ridiculous historians. Thank you, as always so 42 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: much for tuning in. That's the one and only Mr 43 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: Max Williams. That's the one and only Mr Dave Kustan Dave, 44 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: super producers both. We are not going to explain why 45 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: that's the case just yet, because we already did that 46 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: bit in part one of Weirdest Celebrity Bust. Uh they 47 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 1: call me Ben Noel. We are doing it, man. We 48 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: did an intentional two part Yeah, the second time this season. 49 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: Whatever that means, I said that last time. I don't 50 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: know what it means still, but sticking to it. So 51 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: first things first, folks, please check out part one of 52 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 1: this two part series. It is worth your time, especially, 53 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 1: I would say, the end, which is not brought to 54 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 1: you by Uh Noel or yours truly, It is instead 55 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:34,679 Speaker 1: a series of fantastic points made by our guest today, 56 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: the creators of Ridiculous Crime, Elizabeth Dutton and Zaren Burnett. 57 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: Thanks for coming back to the show. You know, after 58 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: part one, Max and Noel and I were like, are 59 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: they gonna are they going to come back? Oh? We're here, 60 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: came back? Ye back, Hey, fellas, we missed you. In 61 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: the moment of me, I'm just going to keep hovering 62 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: in your studio. It's been mere moments. Yeah, I'm actually 63 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: your closet right now. Oh how full of stuff? By 64 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: the way, do your laundry? So yes, thank you so 65 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: much for coming back, uh in closets in studios on 66 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: the show today, we were excited. We previously we previously 67 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 1: explored the time, the life and times, i should say, 68 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: of known drug smuggler Richard Nixon. We have also looked 69 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 1: at this strange story of the early celebrity scandal of 70 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: Roscoe R. Buckle, a K. Fatty R. Buckle, And today 71 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: we're returning to a broader theme, but we're going for 72 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: something completely different. Now, Elizabeth, I am. I don't know 73 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: about you know, but I don't know where this this 74 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: tale will take us. I'm fine, kind of blind, Elizabeth. 75 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:03,919 Speaker 1: You've found when we're both buddy, I have none. Okay, 76 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: So Elizabeth, you're going to improvise a weird celebrity bus 77 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: and she's busting the celebrity right this second. We'll have 78 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 1: updates just one second. Uh, we can use that telegraph 79 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 1: noise from last episode. So, Elizabeth, where are we going today? 80 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: We're going to nine, my friend, and that's the year 81 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: the place Washington Square Park in New York City. Now, 82 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 1: I'll stop and explain that on ridiculous crime we and 83 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,359 Speaker 1: I say we have, but it's more me. But we 84 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 1: like to do these imagination experiments. And when I'm telling 85 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 1: our our tales, we like to root each other and 86 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: the listener in a time and place and we sort 87 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: of make them picture where we are. And we both 88 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: do that. I tend to put Zaren and producer Dave 89 00:05:56,360 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: into my situations, and that's something to do today. So, 90 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: and we're all hanging out in Washington Square Park in 91 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 1: New York. So Saron sitting over on a bench just 92 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:13,359 Speaker 1: feeding pigeons himself. I don't even know. Ben. You know 93 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 1: you're pushing your ice cream cart cream. It's really you know, 94 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: you're doing your best. We got we got a rude 95 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: Vega beat flavor. Can I be frolicking in a fountain? You? Yes? 96 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: How did you know you're in the fountain? You're frolicking 97 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 1: and people are avoiding eye contact? You dolphin boy, care 98 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 1: for some potato favor ice cream? Max Dave playing chess 99 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: over the table right, and Zara's just muttering to himself. 100 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 1: So there you are. And then this gentleman comes comes 101 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,919 Speaker 1: strolling through the park and he talks to another fella. 102 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: They kind of hush hush, whisper handoff. There's a handoff 103 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: between them, and then the cops descend. Now that first 104 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: gentleman strolling along is none other than Mr Dave Aavid 105 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 1: Lee Ross at this point, formerly of the band Van 106 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 1: Halen a little points. So I just need to explain 107 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: this to you that the only research I did on 108 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: this story was putting on the Edam and Smile record 109 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: and standing on the corner outside my house and doing 110 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: high kicks and like Shallon moves and a Paris spandex 111 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: pants channel. But I have it all now, I have 112 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: all the knowledge on it. The story is not coming through. 113 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: I'm just channeling maybe a little bit, a little bit. 114 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: So Mr David Lee Roth, he's in the park, he 115 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: goes up to a guy. He buys a ten dollar 116 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: bag of weed. Ten dollars, that's it. That's what the 117 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: kids call a dime bag, a dime bag exactly, so 118 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: he had ten on it. He goes through, buys a 119 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: bag of weed, and um, the cops show up. They 120 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: arrest him, They arrest the the dealer and when this 121 00:07:58,200 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: was part of a sweep, and it was a sweep 122 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: that was called Operation Doubleheader. Operation Doubleheader. Why it just 123 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 1: sounds dirty. I did not go with Operation Jump might 124 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: as well well Hello Panama is like right, yeah, So 125 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: Operation Doubleheader. The day that they arrest Mr David Lee Ross, 126 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: they pinched thirty eight people that day. Wow, Operation Running 127 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: with the Devil. Plenty of them were drug dealers. One 128 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: of those dealers had been arrested a hundred times that year, 129 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: a hundred times. So who's good or bad at their job? 130 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:41,079 Speaker 1: Or the cops are him? They sound like we keep 131 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: arresting him getting arrested. Yeah, maybe there's you know, like 132 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: there's a semiotic relationship. I like to picture weird uh 133 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: romantic situation, you know, could be Yeah, it's a persistent 134 00:08:58,160 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: meat cute. They're just like, one day we're gonna work this. 135 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: So and I love hate relationship. They know we talked 136 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 1: about We talked about weed with Louis Armstrong, known drug 137 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: mule Richard Nix of you love stories about drugs. I 138 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:19,199 Speaker 1: love talking about every morning I wake up and I 139 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: hope there's one in the news. All I do is 140 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: talk about drugs. What's your favorite celebrity drug bus story. 141 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 1: I can't even limit it to my favorite. May like 142 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: you can just start naming up people like, oh, Willie Nelson, 143 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:31,959 Speaker 1: But I think actually my favorite is the Sierra Blanca 144 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: border patrol stopped. It was normally used to be known 145 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: as the Checkpoint of the Stars because they had these 146 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: by the West Texas at by El Paso, and they 147 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: had the spot where tour buses always get popped with drugs. 148 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:47,439 Speaker 1: And Willie Nelson got caught with pounds of weed. Snoop 149 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: Dogg got popped there, Fiona Apple got popped there, Nelly 150 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: got caught there. Now they got this new sheriff who 151 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: has a sign over his door. His name is Siff 152 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: arm And West, and the sign over his door says 153 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: boss Hog. Now, if you can believe it, this dude, 154 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: boss Hog is going the other way. He's decided, you 155 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:07,199 Speaker 1: know what, I'm not gonna waste taxpayers money on busting celebrities. 156 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: And I quote, I don't have a problem what who 157 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 1: whatsoever going out there and arresting them. I just have 158 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: a problem making my local taxpayers foot the bill for 159 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: America's problem. I'm not going to do the federal government's job. 160 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:21,559 Speaker 1: So open seasoned tour buses. You guys can roll through 161 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: Texas again. But see they're moving weight and quality. Quantity 162 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: and quality. Yeah, that's true. Pound David Lee Roth is neither. 163 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 1: Is he just like quantity nor quality? Okay, okay, just 164 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: so I understand. I'm sure we'll get to this. What 165 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: what what side of the transaction is he on? Is 166 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: he like getting fired from my dream band? Is at 167 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: this point in David Lee Roth is no longer the 168 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: front man of Van Halen. I think we're in the 169 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: Van Hagar years at this point. Okay, So and Gary 170 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 1: her own Wow, I forgot. I think everybody else did too. 171 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: So we have we have David Lee Roth. Now he 172 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: had that as I the aforementioned Edam and Smile record, 173 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 1: he'd gone solo, he wrote an autobiography. This is this 174 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: guy has done pretty much everything. He's traveling. Okays, because 175 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: he played himself in an episode of So exactly. The 176 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 1: comment about how he could write off condoms is like 177 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: a tax write off. Well and the guy I mean, 178 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 1: just providing more backstory about Mr David Lee Roth. He 179 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 1: was so notorious for his groupie activities that he had 180 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 1: a a rewards program for his roadies who could go 181 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: out and fetch gals from the audience and given five passes. 182 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 1: And I suppose the past was marked with you know, 183 00:11:56,240 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: their initials, and the lucky woman he would note whose 184 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: roadies initials were on there and give him a hundred 185 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: dollars and then there's all. There are also stories that 186 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,199 Speaker 1: when Van Halen was on the road in the early 187 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: eighties that they had a doctor who was constantly prescribing 188 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: antibiotics because they STDs were rampant on those. So there's 189 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: a lot of accent antibiotics in my vitamins. David Lee 190 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: Roth is this absolute showman, and he's super sexual, but 191 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: not I don't think in like a menacing way. No, 192 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: I don't know, there's a there's a very kind of 193 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: strange I don't know. He seems like I just imagined obviously, 194 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 1: not I've never imagined this before, but I would imagine 195 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: if somebody was to get busy with David Lee Roth, 196 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: he would be sitting there on like you know, the 197 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: tour bus couch, waiting for them to come to him, 198 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: you know, like here lie upon my David Lee Roth nous. 199 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: But he would not be pressing himself on them he's 200 00:12:53,400 --> 00:13:01,239 Speaker 1: not like thirsty necessarily, it's a tur vibe, you know, exactly. 201 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: So we have Mr David Lee Roth and I keep 202 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: calling him Mr David Lee Roth because Zarin invented a 203 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 1: game called Mr David Lee Ross. We we've decided that 204 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: David Lee Roth is a good benchmark for a rock 205 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 1: showman in terms of the lead singer. He's really got 206 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:23,559 Speaker 1: it all. He's like, what almost a four and a 207 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: half octive range, and like I said, an incredible showman 208 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 1: on stage, believable high kick, yeah, great lyricist, great presentation. 209 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: And so we have him as the as our benchmark. Yeah, 210 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: he's the Mendoza line for rock stars. And then you 211 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: name other frontmen and you decide are they in the 212 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: top five above Mr David Lee Roth or are they below? 213 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: Where do they? Where do they rate on the David 214 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 1: Lee Roth line? Where did Gary Sharone fall into that? 215 00:13:55,120 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: Specary Sharon? He's far below the line ranks. I mean 216 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 1: nothing against him. And you know the nuns, who's another one? 217 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: Give me another one? Boys? Oh gosh, let's see. How 218 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: about Freddie Mercury. I would put him a MA maybe 219 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: one not Yeah, I'd say definitely above. I think we 220 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: can all agree he's above David above and below Super Dave. 221 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: Do you have one for me? Uh? Joe Cocker, Oh 222 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: my god, Joe Cocke. It's different man, right, Like he's 223 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: not really theatrical, but he's got gravitas. I'm gonna have 224 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: to put him below Diamond David. He's in a different 225 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: class really, Like, yeah, he's like Janis Choplin. He's just 226 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: on a different different stuff. But I mean, but I 227 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: would agree wasn't well, well, how many of them were? Well? 228 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: I think David Lee Roth made it work for himself, 229 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: you know, like I think he had he really has, 230 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: he really has. So we got we got Diamond Dave 231 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: living this wildlife and there he is in the park 232 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: putting ten dollars down on what he himself later refers 233 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: to as um Jamaican bunk reefer. I think I bought 234 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: some of that same guy, that same bunk. Doesn't that 235 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: I mean it was like fake or just not very good. 236 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: I think it was. It was low quality. It's like 237 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: ditch a lot of seeds and stuff not to derailation. 238 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 1: Like why is David Lee Rod buying his own park weed? 239 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: You know, like that is the questions. A man of 240 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: the people. He's just through the city. Now. The thing is, 241 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: he's also did you know that fun fact about Mr 242 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: David b Roth. He's a kayaker and outdoorsman, and he 243 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: knows some people in Manhattan who own a kayak store, 244 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: and he convinced them to cut a hole in the 245 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: fence and get the kayaks down to the Hudson River 246 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: and go kayaking. And the police would yell at them 247 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: to come back, and they're like, you can't catch us. 248 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: There's confused by this. People in the kayak in their 249 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: own they had the fence to the river and d 250 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: have quick and so they would. He in the kayak 251 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: store employees would take the kayaks into the Hudson River 252 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: and get a good time. They couldn't pull them back up. 253 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: I'm guessing this business is no longer in business. They 254 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: are they still are, so here he is. He will 255 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: kayak the rivers of New York. He will walk through 256 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: the park and buy the weed. He will eat a 257 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: hot dog. He's a man of urban adventure. And then 258 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: he looks over and he sees nol in the fountain 259 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: and he's like inspired, live your life, you know, dance 260 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: on the shout like nobody's watching, Mr David you really 261 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: feel seen. He probably like throws some money and like 262 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: buys all the ice cream, and he's like, keep it 263 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: up with those pigeons, you know what I mean, high 264 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: fives everybody. And so he gets arrested and Officer Thomas 265 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: Kilroy's arresting officer right air five No, so he owns 266 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 1: van Halen records. This cop he likes to get loose, 267 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: and he's sees David Lee Roth. He's wearing these sunglasses 268 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 1: and he's arresting. He's like, this guy looks so familiar. 269 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: It's like, um last name, he says Roth. And then 270 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: the cops like, as Indvid Lee, what a conundrum? Do 271 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 1: I arrest this guy? Do I just let this free 272 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 1: bird fly off? Now? Which makes the better story that 273 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:56,400 Speaker 1: I arrested David Lee Roth, that I let him go? Yeah, 274 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:59,360 Speaker 1: I know, I think we all know the answer that 275 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:03,120 Speaker 1: that man. Oh, he gets booked, released, he gets a summons. 276 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 1: It's like the equivalent of a traffic ticket in order 277 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: to appear less than a misdemeanor. You know, does I 278 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: think he paid a fine off? Because again it's like 279 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: a it's a big bust it's not like it's not 280 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 1: like a a sting operation entirely to catch Mr David Lee. 281 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 1: He's not caught up in the net. Caught up in 282 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 1: the net. Caught in the net, poor fellow. So but 283 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: the thing is like he later he goes on to 284 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 1: serve the people of New York. Did you know that 285 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: David Lee Roth became an e MT in New York 286 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 1: for a while? This guy he in the late nineties, 287 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 1: he trained um as an e MT in New York. 288 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,719 Speaker 1: He went on over two hundred ambulance rights. Can you 289 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 1: imagine that? You're like, you can knock the hold you 290 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: come to and David Lee Roth is giving you mouth 291 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 1: the mouth or you're still on, like you overdose or 292 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,959 Speaker 1: you have some sort of terrible situation and you've just 293 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: been listening to Van Halen and then you wake up 294 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: in the ambulance. It's like you're standing in front of 295 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:06,439 Speaker 1: your brownstone and your spandex pants listening to him. You 296 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: give a high kick and your foot gets stuck on 297 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 1: the fence, paling through. Your angle comes up and there's 298 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 1: Diamond Dave and he's like, I've been there. He's like, 299 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 1: what happens to the best of us. Now bite this belt, honey, 300 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: I lift your leg up. He wouldn't. He can literally 301 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 1: jump start your heart. I mean, and he wouldn't. You know, 302 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: he wouldn't like judge you for it. Who's like, I've 303 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: got this no judgment. Mr David Lee Roth issues no 304 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: judgment in this life. I likes got me to where 305 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: I am. Yeah. Yeah, he's always rolling with Like he 306 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 1: opens up his coat and he's got like bottles of antibiotics. 307 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 1: He's got the ten dollar bag of week allergic. He's ready. 308 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 1: He's you know, he's like how some women in their 309 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: purse have everything. I like to imagine that David Lee 310 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,199 Speaker 1: Roth opens his coat and he's just got every thing 311 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 1: you're going to possibly need. Poncho, Do you need an 312 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:10,439 Speaker 1: ore for a kayak? Because God knows kayak? Or I'm like, 313 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 1: can I actually can I get a crocheted poncho? And 314 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 1: he's like, I don't even worry about it, pulls it 315 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 1: out of his pants. It's nice and warms. A lot 316 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 1: of people have cocaine spoons, but I have a cocaine fork, 317 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: put stones everything. He's amazing, but you know, like the 318 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: this wasn't his first run in with the fuzz. No, 319 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 1: I'm shocked. Do please take a picture in my face. 320 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 1: I can see what it looked like when I'm like 321 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:42,880 Speaker 1: the O face emoji. He for all of our images 322 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 1: of Mr David Lee Roth in our head that he's 323 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 1: this wild rock star. He's really not. He lives his 324 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 1: wild life, but he's not the debauch style who's always 325 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 1: getting in trouble. His prior is nineteen eighty in Cincinnati, 326 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:02,199 Speaker 1: and he David van Halen. He's in van Halen at 327 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 1: the time they're on tour. He was playing with the 328 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: band in Cincinnati on the Invasion tour and they sometimes 329 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: they called it I forget something else, but anyway, he's 330 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 1: They're playing Riverfront Stadium five months prior to who had 331 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 1: played that same stadium and there was a stampede and 332 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 1: eleven people were killed. So they had this whole overhaul 333 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 1: of the system at the stadium at Riverfront, so you 334 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: there's no more general admission, no open flames, which okay, 335 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:37,399 Speaker 1: and no by bringing a guerilla with you. Yeah. The 336 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 1: list of those very specific bands, I love those right, 337 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: So they there are all these things that you can't 338 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: do at Riverfront Stadium anymore. And when you tell David 339 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: Lee Rock you can't do something that's a challenge issue, 340 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: it's a guarantee. Yeah. But here's the thing. He had 341 00:21:57,880 --> 00:21:59,640 Speaker 1: no clue that what he was going to do wasn't 342 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 1: something could do. So they're playing their hit Light Up 343 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: the Sky, which I have no idea that that song 344 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: sounds like anyway, you know, an van Halen deep cuts, 345 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: no no youth to put to just to like time 346 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: out for one of my multiple non sequiturs um. There's 347 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: a really great song title that David Lee Roth has 348 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: called Ladies Night and Buffalo. And I'm just like anything 349 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 1: he ever does, he should just be totally absolved with 350 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 1: any sins. Because he wrote a song called Ladies Knight 351 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 1: and Buffalo. I love your I love the careful, the 352 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: careful framing of that he wrote this amazing song title. 353 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: It's kind of like pursuit of happiness, you know what 354 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 1: I mean. It's like, yeah, go for it exactly. And 355 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,439 Speaker 1: you see that and you say, that's a risk, not 356 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:56,400 Speaker 1: only to write up tonity listen to it. So I'm 357 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: just going to watch it from afar for right, appreciate 358 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 1: it from here. That's good. It's one of those things 359 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 1: like do I want to open that present, and then 360 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 1: I don't have it anymore. So that's sweet expectation, that's there. 361 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: So anyway, they have this song, light up the sky, 362 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 1: light up the yeah, light up this guy, this guy, this, 363 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: this catagory here. So there's a drum solo, of course, 364 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 1: and then on the studio version of it, after the 365 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 1: drum solo, diamond davels light them up. Okay, that's what 366 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: happens in the normal song. In this situation. In the 367 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 1: live show, he yells at a couple of times, light 368 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: him up, light him up, about he's really good at scudding. 369 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: So he yells that, and then the crowd apparently thinks 370 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 1: that means light them up. Spark a dude. That's my 371 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 1: point though, that how would anyone think that that says 372 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,640 Speaker 1: light them up? So they're all like smoking a cigarette 373 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,439 Speaker 1: and be like, just give me about five minutes, like 374 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 1: is this plane crashing where we apparently everyone starts lighting 375 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 1: up cigarettes and cigarettes, cigarettes of every variety, funny kind, 376 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 1: maybe some cigars, maybe some cloves, cigarettes, and then everyone 377 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 1: around them is super irritated with them. I don't want 378 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 1: to hear your poetry were you're van Halen poetry? So 379 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: the crowd is now starting to smoke things, and the 380 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 1: people running the stadium are just beside themselves because they're 381 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: afraid that somehow people smoking things is going to lead 382 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 1: to another riot. They're gun shy, I suppose, so they 383 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 1: start like maybe they cut everything down, get everyone to leave. 384 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 1: They arrest a hundred, you know, they throw a hundred 385 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 1: people out for smoking hun people, and then a hundred 386 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 1: and seventy seven people were arrested for drug or alcohol charges. 387 00:24:55,520 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 1: They arrested more people than they the kicked out. So 388 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 1: they're like, you, you hundred, get out of here. To 389 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 1: the rest of you, you're coming with us. Damn should 390 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:10,880 Speaker 1: be in a cigarette. The thing is, though, is that 391 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: the cops then blame the band. Now, that's not Those 392 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 1: aren't large numbers for a stadium show. I think they're 393 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 1: doing pretty well in terms of busts for a Van 394 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 1: Halen show. Yeah, wild times. Anyway, David Lee Roth is 395 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 1: charged with encouraging violation of a fire code and has 396 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:35,880 Speaker 1: to post five thousand dollars bond. That's the squarest charge totally. 397 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,439 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying is that you'd imagine like, well, 398 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: what did he get charged with? Well, you know he 399 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 1: was his other bust, like I toured the label off 400 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 1: the mattress, right right, he pushes the limits. So he's 401 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 1: got so far. We have ten dollar bag of weed. 402 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,199 Speaker 1: I told people to break a fire code, and I 403 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 1: jumped into a river on a canoe, swimming within thirty 404 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 1: minutes of eating. So this guy like a criminal of 405 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:06,959 Speaker 1: wholesome adventures completely completely he winds up getting the charges 406 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 1: are dismissed because the judge that there was a lack 407 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: of clarity and how the law was broken. Okay, yeah, 408 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: because you could say, for like encouraging violation of a 409 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 1: fire code, that could be as simple as somebody walking 410 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 1: by in public space and being like, you know what, 411 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: people should stand here? Yeah, just like, hey, you guys 412 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 1: got people in this room. There's someone's like, who is 413 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 1: this arch villain making relatively inconvenient across southwestern Cincinnati or whatever? 414 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: Don't you think Cincinnati has bigger fish to fry than this? 415 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 1: But again, gunshy, I think that's a pretty down I 416 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 1: don't know, Okay, no, no, no, shade Danny, Cincinnatians out there. 417 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: It doesn't strike me as the most like, I don't 418 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: hear about a lot of craziness going down and cincinnative. 419 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 1: I just I'm just pointing out, like I agree with 420 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: this so much so that agree with the judge at 421 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:03,120 Speaker 1: least it would It would also have been amazing if 422 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 1: the judge, you know, like someone from the kayak store 423 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,119 Speaker 1: whispers and the judges ear and then and they're like, 424 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 1: case dismissed. I got places to be That's the ending. 425 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 1: We could just we could put that in in our 426 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 1: cinematic version. Well that's what I always call my invented 427 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 1: details all these stories, So this is sort of an 428 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 1: invented details. Yeah, the kayak guy is the bailiff and 429 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 1: he leans in. He's like, listen, you can't you cannot 430 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 1: bust this guy. He's so good for business. I'll cut 431 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 1: you in on it. The other thing too, with David 432 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: Lee Roth and and Dope is that, um, he had 433 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,920 Speaker 1: a drug mule that he used in order to get 434 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 1: his weed into and out of the Bahamas. Because you know, 435 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: when you're in the eighties and your rock star, you 436 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 1: spend a good amount of time in the Bahamas. Apparently, Yeah, 437 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,440 Speaker 1: that was the whole thing. Didn't like Keith Richards and 438 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,439 Speaker 1: Mick Jagger Crash were playing in Jamaica. Yeah, Keith has 439 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 1: a place in to me. I say it, Keith, like 440 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 1: were pal. I was just sending him some roses because 441 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: I was thinking about maybe going down there and summering. Now. 442 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,679 Speaker 1: I just wanted to let him know. I was debating it, 443 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: of course, but yeah, that's classic Key keep telling you, man, 444 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: we can't bring that much ketamine to you on the plane. 445 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 1: I know that's normal for you guys, but you'd have 446 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 1: to buy a seat for that much. Kee. So he 447 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: had it. But the at a mule, and it wasn't 448 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,360 Speaker 1: Richard Nixon, Okay, I was. I was actually just very 449 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 1: quickly was searching for vice presidents during the eighties because 450 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: I was thinking that wasn't an actual mule it was 451 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 1: I would I'd be like, yes, that makes total sense. No, 452 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 1: this is amazing. His drug mule was Tawny Kittain. Now, 453 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 1: for those I'm familiar, Tony Kain was at one point 454 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 1: Mary David Coverdale, singer of White Snake. She made her 455 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: fame by writhing around on the hood of a Jaguar 456 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: in a video. So the best driving of the eighties. 457 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: I believe she was, Yeah, carrent driver, she I guess 458 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 1: was not this is before she married David Coverdale, she 459 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 1: was dating the manager of Van Halen and when they 460 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 1: would all go down to the Bahamas, David Lee Roth 461 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 1: would pull her aside and shove his drugs in her 462 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 1: bag and say, head on through. I thought you were 463 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 1: going to go somewhere else with that. Didn't go there. 464 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 1: I don't work blue fellas, okay. So yeah, so Tonyktaine 465 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 1: And apparently like she would have to drive him around 466 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 1: while they picked up He and some other gentleman would 467 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 1: pick up sex workers. She'd be like the driver. I 468 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 1: don't know if she had to go over there and negotiate. 469 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 1: She also as the driver, like picking them, like, oh 470 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 1: those look good, I'll be over here. She was a 471 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: reluctant participant, you know, I get it. So Mr dney 472 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 1: Off was more of a weed and women kind of guy, 473 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: well ladies like in Buffalo cocaine guy, right, And yeah, no, 474 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 1: he was a cocaine guy. So he did drugs and 475 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 1: then he did drugs, drugs like cocaine, and sometimes drugs 476 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 1: did him. Yeah, fair enough. So maybe he was just 477 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 1: naturally that high energy. Now we need to meadow out 478 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 1: after work, you know. Yeah, And then what would happen 479 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 1: if he wasn't know he was. He was a he 480 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 1: was a bottle rocket, that fella. He did a lot 481 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 1: of coke and they also did a lot of pills 482 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 1: in the eighties. And that was one of the things 483 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 1: that broke Van Halen up is that they at least 484 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 1: his departure not breaking it up. They know he he 485 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 1: said that he didn't like their drug use, which is like, like, 486 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 1: I don't like they're very boring about it. They will 487 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 1: not keep up nor have the drugs. Perhaps he was 488 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 1: trying to like go straight, or he was saying like, yeah, 489 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 1: they just these guys can't keep up. Come on, like, 490 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: I have to find all the drugs. I'm down in 491 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 1: South America doing research. What did they come back to 492 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: me with, Oh I got some mad Jill, Thank thanks 493 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 1: nice Alex Alex so he yeah, that's when he cites that. 494 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 1: But then everyone else is like, I think it was 495 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 1: a personality clash. It's like no, no, yeah, I don't 496 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: think named after a guitarist. And then you've got the 497 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 1: front man who's soaking up all the spotlight behind the 498 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: scenes clash he goes, he goes in rock music, that's 499 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 1: a prime that's a prime example. And I will say 500 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 1: though that um, when he went solo and then he 501 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: got a guitar player for that first you know, the 502 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 1: first EP and the first record he got Steve V 503 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 1: and you know guitar virtual. So but it's when you 504 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 1: listen to it. And I'm saying that not like this 505 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 1: is something I do on the daily, although I wouldn't 506 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 1: be ashamed if I listened to David Lee Roth every 507 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 1: day to wake up. But in listening to it recently, 508 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: it's like Steve V is doing his very best Eddie 509 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 1: van Halen impression. Here's the thing, Steve I is obviously 510 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 1: and fine talented musician, but what makes Eddie van Halen 511 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 1: an interesting guitarist is just how like unhinged and wild 512 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 1: is playing as Steve is much more like contained, you know, 513 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 1: a little clinical and Eddie Eddie was inventive and he 514 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 1: had few on it. I totally agree. Yeah, Steve By 515 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 1: is like every dude sitting in Guitar Center noodling around 516 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 1: on like a stratocaster that they really want is super 517 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 1: into Steve By. And like, where does the sideways for 518 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,959 Speaker 1: a second, Rodney James Dio versus Dusty Rhodes is eric 519 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 1: an analog here. I thought you were through Steve Stevens 520 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 1: in this. We are just naming every frizzy haired eighties. Yeah. 521 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 1: I liked because he's a funny looking guy and he 522 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 1: makes it work for him. Yeah yeah, and he gave 523 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 1: us all the evil theloca. That's yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. 524 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 1: So David Lee Mr Ross, he uh, you know, he's 525 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 1: to wildlife now. He apparently has like a company that 526 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 1: does after care for tattoos, like like like tattoos. Yeah, 527 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 1: I guess, you know, just like you know, keep it moisturized. 528 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 1: So his first tattoo, the first tattoo he ever got, 529 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:21,959 Speaker 1: was a he got a sea horse on his ankle. 530 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 1: I thought he got a banjo on his knee. That 531 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 1: was like in the early days of Van Halen. He 532 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 1: gets a seahorse on his ank and then he waited. 533 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 1: He didn't get another one till he was sixty, and 534 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 1: then he got what he calls what's calmly none is 535 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 1: the Japanese tuxedo. He's like fully fully inked. Oh yeah, wow, 536 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 1: well he thought about it. Yeah, so he got he 537 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 1: got the sea horse, and he thought about he gave 538 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 1: it some time. Well that's what he says, He's like, 539 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 1: I spent all this time, you know, forty years or 540 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 1: whatever coming up with all the designs that I wanted 541 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 1: and and he just got it all at once. Well, 542 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 1: I respressed that it's an impressive amount of a long 543 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 1: time too. That's I mean, not in the chair getting tattooed. 544 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,399 Speaker 1: That's also sounds like it's his it's his new drug 545 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 1: and all the amount of the doorphins yea. And to 546 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 1: be fair and to his credit, I mean, isn't he 547 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 1: a big sober living proponent now? Like he totally went 548 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 1: clean and it's like sort of I think so, but 549 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,440 Speaker 1: I think he likes I feel like, why am I 550 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 1: envisioning him drinking wine, white wine and a joint now 551 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: and like just wearing like, you know, a kimono. Maybe, Yeah, 552 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 1: he's what do they call it, California sober? California sober? 553 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 1: So I think that, like, you know, the other thing too, 554 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 1: is it did you know that he was the one 555 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 1: who was supposed to replace Howard Stern when Stern went 556 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 1: to Serious X Mr David Lee Roth. Yeah, they gave 557 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,240 Speaker 1: him a radio show and it only lasted two months. 558 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 1: I thought you're gonna say when toward Stern got divorced. 559 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 1: Just like they gave him. They gave him the time 560 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,479 Speaker 1: slot and he wouldn't play the music that they wanted 561 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 1: him to play. He put on like world music and 562 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 1: alternative rock acts. Had Peter Gabriel come on, It's He 563 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,479 Speaker 1: was like, it's your day, It's women's Day. Thanks Peter 564 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 1: Um So he no, he had he had Randoms on there. 565 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 1: He had Johnny Damon on Wow the baseball player, because 566 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 1: he's like, if someone I think is interesting, want to 567 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:27,719 Speaker 1: bring him onto my show and we're gonna listen to 568 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 1: world music. What do you think? He brought his his 569 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:35,799 Speaker 1: uncle Manny Roth on, so he started a podcast one. 570 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 1: Manny Roth though was really interesting because like his uncle, 571 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,720 Speaker 1: he was the owner of Cafe Wah in Greenwich Village. 572 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 1: So that was like from like late fifties through the sixties. 573 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 1: That's where Dylan Hendrix, Springsteen, Velvet Underground Cool in the 574 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 1: Game played there ps Um and then he went on 575 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,799 Speaker 1: to open a diner in Woodstock. But yeah, Nanny, he 576 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 1: was on the show. The UM network gave Mr David 577 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 1: Lee Roth some negative feedback about his show, and he 578 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:11,359 Speaker 1: turned around and complained about it on air. Very and 579 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden they came in and told 580 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 1: him right before he was going on the air, this 581 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,840 Speaker 1: is your last show. Remember your last show? It was? 582 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 1: That was it? So yeah, those are the wild tales 583 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:25,359 Speaker 1: of Mr David Lee Roth. I love it. They're less 584 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,279 Speaker 1: wild than I would have expected. I mean, I think 585 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 1: this is like sort of latter day David Lee Roth 586 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 1: a little bit, maybe pull it out a little bit 587 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 1: from and it's I like the different shades of wild. 588 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 1: So it's not self destructive wild. It's entertaining and it's 589 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:43,440 Speaker 1: cut a hole in this fence wild, And legend goes, 590 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 1: I hear that if you, if you happened by the 591 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,320 Speaker 1: right area of New York when the weather is just so, 592 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,919 Speaker 1: you might even see the No, okay, we know where 593 00:36:53,920 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 1: that bit is going. Hold Winter's night. I say it 594 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 1: takes some some you know stones to be willing to 595 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,719 Speaker 1: kayak in the Hudson River. Man, I'd be afraid, like, 596 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 1: let's catch on fire or something, you know. I mean, 597 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,840 Speaker 1: it's not exactly come out with all manner of skin disorders. 598 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you come out different. Yeah, that's why he 599 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 1: had to get fully tattooed. Invented detail the tattoos are 600 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:25,760 Speaker 1: cover ups for the stains and the like. So yeah, 601 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,239 Speaker 1: that's it. There's my David Lee Roth story for you. 602 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 1: I feel like I've grown, Saron. What is your ridiculous 603 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:35,840 Speaker 1: takeaway with this one? Um? If you're going to bust 604 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,879 Speaker 1: David Lee Roth in a park, don't because that makes 605 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:40,920 Speaker 1: for a better story down the line. So you can 606 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,799 Speaker 1: be the copy of like, hey, I totally didn't do 607 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 1: my job and everyone's like, yeah, man, that's no. Do 608 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:52,200 Speaker 1: you have a ridiculous takeaway? Uh? Cops love van Halen. 609 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:58,880 Speaker 1: There you go, Bingo, Ben ridiculous, A ridiculous takeaway? Yes, 610 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:06,000 Speaker 1: I I you can convince people to mutiny against institutions 611 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:11,240 Speaker 1: and empires, starting with the kayak shops. You know exactly. 612 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,320 Speaker 1: You know what damned be your fire coats, damned be 613 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 1: your fence off the heads And I like it. I'm 614 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:22,520 Speaker 1: just imposing some of our features on ridiculous crime upon you. 615 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:28,279 Speaker 1: What's your ridiculous takeaway? That's wonderful? I love it. Uh 616 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,880 Speaker 1: And and this is this is a story that you 617 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:36,040 Speaker 1: know part way through, Elizabeth, just to confirm, I started 618 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:39,239 Speaker 1: I started looking at I just checked. It's like, David 619 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,880 Speaker 1: Lee Roth, make sure he's alive, you know, and I 620 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:45,480 Speaker 1: became more protective of him as as the story continue 621 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:49,359 Speaker 1: to which is uh, which I think. I think if 622 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 1: this is proselytization, I am one of the converted now. 623 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:57,360 Speaker 1: So we have a lot of love for David Lee 624 00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,279 Speaker 1: Roth around Ridiculous trying glad we can spread that in 625 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,839 Speaker 1: the Ridiculous universe and everyone can eventually know that David 626 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:06,160 Speaker 1: Lee Roth, you're lucky to have him. Yeah, it's good too. 627 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:17,960 Speaker 1: And this I think brings us to our final tail, 628 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:24,120 Speaker 1: which involves no I don't know too much about this 629 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 1: next story. I knew it was. It was a better 630 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:31,560 Speaker 1: idea than than my initial idea because we we were 631 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 1: talking off air and I was asking Noel, It's like, hey, 632 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 1: what are you gonna what do you think we should do, 633 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 1: you know, on the show in a few days, And 634 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,280 Speaker 1: my idea was we should talk about that time Prince 635 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 1: took a megaphone off the airplanks. That was cool and impressive. 636 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:51,080 Speaker 1: But but no you found something. I think there's a 637 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:54,839 Speaker 1: much deeper story, and it's one that I'm not sure 638 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:56,880 Speaker 1: a lot of people know about. I start of a 639 00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:58,920 Speaker 1: super deep I don't know if it even quite counts 640 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,359 Speaker 1: as a bust. But here I was going to do 641 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,160 Speaker 1: the mysterious death of Natalie Wood until I realized it 642 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:08,319 Speaker 1: was just mega depressing, and that's not ridiculous at all, 643 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:12,880 Speaker 1: that's just sad. Christopher Walking was involved, Richard Wagner was implicated. 644 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,239 Speaker 1: But then I'm like, where's the ridiculous angle? Where? What's 645 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,480 Speaker 1: where's the opportunity for ridiculous takeaways? Here? It's just a 646 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,799 Speaker 1: real bummer of a story. So I decided to go 647 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,120 Speaker 1: in a different direction. And I had a burst of 648 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:27,359 Speaker 1: inspiration when I remembered a clip that I used to 649 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,719 Speaker 1: really love and always made the rounds. It was a 650 00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,320 Speaker 1: fun thing to listen to um to get some last 651 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:36,000 Speaker 1: And it's John Wayne delivering a speech and he's very 652 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,920 Speaker 1: clearly quite drunk. Let's listen to a little bit of 653 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:40,799 Speaker 1: it now and just so we can reflect on it, 654 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:44,400 Speaker 1: and then we're gonna go into some potential origin a 655 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:49,160 Speaker 1: potential origin story for this speech. I want to add 656 00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 1: anything that I can add to what he said about 657 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:59,440 Speaker 1: the fact that you guys are just there is no 658 00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 1: way to be a leader in Americana except you guys. 659 00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:14,320 Speaker 1: You gotta control it. We haven't, We haven't any chance 660 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:26,120 Speaker 1: you Naturally things happened like at the Columbia University and 661 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 1: at the other mother colleges. No, it really it's Uh. 662 00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,560 Speaker 1: When I went to school, I went to school at 663 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:43,239 Speaker 1: the University of Southern California. Let me explain something to you. 664 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,680 Speaker 1: When I went there, I went there when there was 665 00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:51,640 Speaker 1: a fella and can control of the college. I mean, 666 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:58,160 Speaker 1: I mean, here's the boss man there. If anybody had 667 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:05,800 Speaker 1: walked intore he is office and torn down a picture 668 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:15,000 Speaker 1: and did excrement into his Uh, no one is a 669 00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:20,279 Speaker 1: waste paper baskets or had written lewd words on his 670 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:27,920 Speaker 1: uh the pictures of his family. We as members of 671 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:34,160 Speaker 1: the college would have kicked the god damn hell out 672 00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:40,239 Speaker 1: of this organization. I can't understand how how it can 673 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:45,800 Speaker 1: happen in the United States of America that this can happen. 674 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,279 Speaker 1: What is this like? Is this a commencement speech? He's 675 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:54,000 Speaker 1: talking about colleges comparing like you know other Ivy League 676 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:59,920 Speaker 1: universe are Yeah, some people, for some reason, people are 677 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,640 Speaker 1: doing excrements since waste paperbacks, what are what are known 678 00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:10,360 Speaker 1: as waste writing lewd words on pictures of his family. Uh, 679 00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:15,480 Speaker 1: he's the protector of Americana clearly. You know, he t 680 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:19,640 Speaker 1: really talks like that, you guys, um, and you know, 681 00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:24,480 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure he's drunk. So let's say I think so, man, 682 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:26,400 Speaker 1: I mean, there's something going on. So I think the 683 00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,719 Speaker 1: bust here is like busted. You got recorded sounding like 684 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:33,880 Speaker 1: a loopy drunkie John Wayne, and that's fun for us. Um. 685 00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,880 Speaker 1: But I looked into this because it exists on the 686 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:40,360 Speaker 1: internet as John Wayne Drunk Speech dot w m V. 687 00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,600 Speaker 1: When you find it on YouTube if you want. It's 688 00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,600 Speaker 1: the only version of this that I can find. Um. 689 00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,879 Speaker 1: It only has about fifty two thousand views, so it's uh, 690 00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:54,000 Speaker 1: doesn't seem to be super super like zeitguy? See or 691 00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,040 Speaker 1: people are like thinking about this a lot, but I 692 00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,799 Speaker 1: remembered it and I was like, where was that from. 693 00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:02,080 Speaker 1: There's a whole Reddit thread devoted to this question, and 694 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:06,960 Speaker 1: the most plausible that there's a few possibilities. One was 695 00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:10,880 Speaker 1: an appearance he made in June of nineteen seventy at 696 00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,600 Speaker 1: the Department of the Navy u c L a r 697 00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:17,800 Speaker 1: OTC dress Parade um, where he was asked to speak 698 00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,360 Speaker 1: at the commencement and then joined the n r O 699 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:25,480 Speaker 1: tc UH in something called the Pistol Award Medal. Um. 700 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:29,319 Speaker 1: I guess that's an award given for marksmanship, you know 701 00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,160 Speaker 1: in the R O. T. C or whatever. Of course 702 00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,400 Speaker 1: we all know and love it. Um. But the most 703 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:40,120 Speaker 1: plausible source, because of the clearly quite lighthearted nature of 704 00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:44,440 Speaker 1: his delivery and the potential party atmosphere that may have 705 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,160 Speaker 1: led to it, was an appearance that he made in 706 00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:51,440 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy four at Harvard. Um. You guys are probably 707 00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:56,120 Speaker 1: familiar with Harvard's National Lampoon, which was there, you know, 708 00:44:56,600 --> 00:45:00,520 Speaker 1: comedy literary magazine. A lot. I think Color Ryan used 709 00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:02,400 Speaker 1: to write for it. A lot of S n L 710 00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:04,400 Speaker 1: people came from it. It's like a big deal. It 711 00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:08,239 Speaker 1: generates a lot of big comedic talents. And I can 712 00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:12,160 Speaker 1: only assume that the National Lampoon films were based on 713 00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:16,120 Speaker 1: stuff from like the National Lampoon magazine whatever. I never said. 714 00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:19,520 Speaker 1: I'm like how those organizations are like exactly one to 715 00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:21,920 Speaker 1: one related. But but nothing else would really make too 716 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:26,040 Speaker 1: much stuff. So The New York Times actually wrote an 717 00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:30,840 Speaker 1: article about this appearance. Um. It was written by John 718 00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:34,480 Speaker 1: Kiffner on January sixteenth of nineteen seventy four, and the 719 00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:38,480 Speaker 1: headline is John Wayne plays a new role, the Invader 720 00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:43,319 Speaker 1: of Harvard Square. Um. So apparently the National Lampoon had 721 00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:47,600 Speaker 1: called John Wayne out as being like a big old 722 00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:51,600 Speaker 1: phony because he plays all these tough guys in the movies, 723 00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:54,200 Speaker 1: you know, and all these military men and all of that, 724 00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:56,880 Speaker 1: and you know, sands of you, a GiMA and a 725 00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,520 Speaker 1: lot of war pictures, you know, stuff like that. Obviously, 726 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,799 Speaker 1: is a big cowboy type dude. Um. He got out 727 00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,400 Speaker 1: of back last two for his kind of glorification of 728 00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:08,640 Speaker 1: like the wild West. And obviously there's a lot of 729 00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:12,240 Speaker 1: problematic treatment of indigenous people and all that stuff super 730 00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,200 Speaker 1: glossed over in his movies, and he kind of makes 731 00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,719 Speaker 1: it all seem like this a whole lot of big 732 00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:20,239 Speaker 1: Mannish fun, you know. Um. And you know he's known 733 00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,719 Speaker 1: as the Duke. I always forget to see the Duke 734 00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,279 Speaker 1: or the Boss, and the Boss is Springsteen. The Duke 735 00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,120 Speaker 1: is is is this guy is? He also know that 736 00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:31,520 Speaker 1: the Duke is the name of his dog. We got 737 00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:35,759 Speaker 1: his dog's nickname the local firefighters. They had this dog 738 00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,279 Speaker 1: and and they loved him, so they called the dog Duke. 739 00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,840 Speaker 1: And then he ends up taking on his dog's nickname. 740 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,720 Speaker 1: Like how many people other than Indiana Jones his nickname. 741 00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,560 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I can see, I could see 742 00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:50,319 Speaker 1: they must have known about that when when writing uh, 743 00:46:50,560 --> 00:47:00,200 Speaker 1: Indiana Jones gave the like named after the dog. So 744 00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:04,719 Speaker 1: you know, the eggheads that that that the Lampoon um 745 00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:08,520 Speaker 1: dubbed John Wayne is the biggest fraud in history. Um 746 00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,239 Speaker 1: for that very reason, you know, for a lot of 747 00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,640 Speaker 1: the problematic portrayals that he did in films and the 748 00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:18,360 Speaker 1: fact that he actually got uh deferred or I guess whatever, 749 00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:20,760 Speaker 1: you know when you get a pass for for being drafted, 750 00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,719 Speaker 1: because yeah, john Ford just to give him a hard 751 00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:25,839 Speaker 1: time about that. A lot of people did, I think, 752 00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:29,279 Speaker 1: especially again because he's playing this like, you know, within life, 753 00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,640 Speaker 1: tough guy, military guy, but he was apparently under the 754 00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:38,279 Speaker 1: he was the sole caregiver for I think four children. Um, 755 00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,279 Speaker 1: so it's yeah, I guess it's a legitimate reason, but 756 00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,120 Speaker 1: probably not the best look, especially when you're this guy. 757 00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:46,960 Speaker 1: But he doubles down. So he accepts this invitation to 758 00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:51,719 Speaker 1: debate the I guess staff of the National Lampoon. It's 759 00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:53,759 Speaker 1: some kind of event. It's all kind of in good 760 00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:57,320 Speaker 1: roasty type fund right, So they send him his invitation 761 00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,520 Speaker 1: and he agrees. So you kind of got to give 762 00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:01,120 Speaker 1: the guy it for having a bit of a sense 763 00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:04,000 Speaker 1: of humor and not being too self serious because he 764 00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:08,520 Speaker 1: shows up as part of a military kind of cavalcade, 765 00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:12,600 Speaker 1: like a he he rolls into Harvard Square with a 766 00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:17,560 Speaker 1: military escort um writing on top of like a gunner, 767 00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,759 Speaker 1: you know, like vehicle or I think it's a tank, 768 00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:28,759 Speaker 1: but it looks like a machine gun nest that he's in, Like, yeah, 769 00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,120 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's it's pretty bizarre. It's it's a 770 00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:36,360 Speaker 1: pretty weird flex um. So he's surrounded by policemen and 771 00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:40,279 Speaker 1: all of these soldiers and they rush him into the theater. Um, 772 00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:42,840 Speaker 1: you know, just kind of bowling over all of the 773 00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,840 Speaker 1: the onlookers and people that are asking for his autograph. 774 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,520 Speaker 1: He does give out a few autographs. Um. But he 775 00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:54,400 Speaker 1: gets inside and he gives this address. Potentially that that 776 00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:56,960 Speaker 1: is the theory. We don't have exact confirmation this is 777 00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,400 Speaker 1: where it comes from, but given the nature of the 778 00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:03,160 Speaker 1: event and you know, the timing, this redditor seems to 779 00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,319 Speaker 1: believe that this is this is accurate, and I think 780 00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:07,520 Speaker 1: that it seems to be pretty close to me. Um. 781 00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:11,200 Speaker 1: So the they're actually presenting him with an award. UM, 782 00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,800 Speaker 1: and the it's funny because he actually says, uh that 783 00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:17,520 Speaker 1: he he makes a joke about how he decided to 784 00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:23,280 Speaker 1: come um, and he turned down another opportunity to appear 785 00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:26,920 Speaker 1: at a Jane Fonda convention. So um, I think he's 786 00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:29,040 Speaker 1: sort of taking the piss a little bit, but also 787 00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:32,320 Speaker 1: again being nice and self deprecating. So the Lampoon actually 788 00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:37,480 Speaker 1: presented him with an award for having the nerve to 789 00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:41,480 Speaker 1: show up, which essentially is like it's not called this, 790 00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:43,000 Speaker 1: but let's just call it what it is, like a 791 00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:47,040 Speaker 1: brass Balls award. So you're saying that a tough guy 792 00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:50,120 Speaker 1: got a participation award. He sure did so, I mean, 793 00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:52,919 Speaker 1: I'm sure that was maybe lost on him, but yeah, 794 00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,000 Speaker 1: they present them with this trophy that's made up of 795 00:49:55,120 --> 00:50:02,520 Speaker 1: two spheres made of pure brass. So brass Balls award, Yeah, yeah, yeah. 796 00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:07,600 Speaker 1: Uh And he he actually he made another pretty funny 797 00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:09,719 Speaker 1: drug with a literary reference in and I'm sorry, I'm 798 00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:13,920 Speaker 1: not trying to you know, um smirched the guy's intellect. 799 00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:16,480 Speaker 1: But I was surprised that he made this reference. He 800 00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:19,480 Speaker 1: said his invitation came in a plain brown envelope, and 801 00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,320 Speaker 1: he said it was quote like being invited to lunch 802 00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:26,360 Speaker 1: with the Borgia's. Um. If anyone's seen that show the Borges, 803 00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:29,040 Speaker 1: you'll know that they had a reputation, this ruling family 804 00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:32,360 Speaker 1: for just like murdering people all the time and inviting 805 00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:34,480 Speaker 1: them to dinner and just like killing the hell out. 806 00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,840 Speaker 1: Like I brought my best poison ring to this dinner, exactly, 807 00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:42,480 Speaker 1: and then I made my son pope. Yeah, exactly. So 808 00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,040 Speaker 1: let's see what are some other good Then there's a 809 00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,399 Speaker 1: back and forth, this debate kind of it's all again, 810 00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,920 Speaker 1: it's all very clearly in good fun. I don't think 811 00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,399 Speaker 1: you would have showed up otherwise. But here's a little 812 00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,960 Speaker 1: bit from the article. Uh, some of the questions that 813 00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:57,880 Speaker 1: he was asked. Someone asked him how does his horse 814 00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:02,120 Speaker 1: feel about sex? In the center? Mom Um, don't have 815 00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:04,480 Speaker 1: his direct response to that one. What was the last 816 00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:06,920 Speaker 1: book or comic book you read? And they asked him 817 00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:10,560 Speaker 1: to doing Ed Sullivan impersonation. Another one that was good 818 00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:14,120 Speaker 1: is are you ever going to marry Kitty in your show? 819 00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,879 Speaker 1: I don't know that reference because I don't know John 820 00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,360 Speaker 1: Wayne's works super well. And my favorite, how do you 821 00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:25,240 Speaker 1: feel about students smoking LSD? I've actually heard the answer 822 00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:27,680 Speaker 1: to the first question about what did his horse think 823 00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:31,360 Speaker 1: about sex in the cinema? To his horse actually preferred 824 00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:34,239 Speaker 1: sex and parks. It was not into He did not 825 00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:37,320 Speaker 1: like it indoors was he was. He was zinging on 826 00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:39,960 Speaker 1: this right, because there was the other question. You know, 827 00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,960 Speaker 1: these are all very send up questions, right like, uh, 828 00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:47,200 Speaker 1: is it true that your to pay is made of 829 00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:50,480 Speaker 1: body hair? Oh, it's real hair. It's not mine, but 830 00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:55,000 Speaker 1: it's real, like like he's it's clearly as he said, though, 831 00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,400 Speaker 1: I think in in good fund not all of the 832 00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:02,680 Speaker 1: jokes aged well. But he's asked about what his views 833 00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:05,520 Speaker 1: on you know, what was once referred to as women's 834 00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:08,960 Speaker 1: live what I think is that as an age well 835 00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:10,839 Speaker 1: even even in and of itself. But he was asked 836 00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,680 Speaker 1: about his views on that, and he said, I unless 837 00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:15,640 Speaker 1: I can do it, well, I think they have a 838 00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:19,080 Speaker 1: right to work anywhere they want to, as long as 839 00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:29,520 Speaker 1: they have dinner already when we want it. A That 840 00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:33,360 Speaker 1: is verbatim because he's reading the room, John Wayne was 841 00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:35,360 Speaker 1: I thought that was a good job, Wade boys. So 842 00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:37,360 Speaker 1: when he finished and he was looking at the people 843 00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:46,080 Speaker 1: of the room, he just went swinging just to circle 844 00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:49,040 Speaker 1: back around, you know, just to go full circle. He 845 00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:52,480 Speaker 1: was also asked, has President Nixon ever given you any 846 00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:56,640 Speaker 1: suggestions for your movies, to which he responded, no, they've 847 00:52:56,680 --> 00:53:03,399 Speaker 1: all been successful. Oh. I think it might be clear 848 00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:08,520 Speaker 1: to most people listening, but he was notoriously right wing 849 00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:12,000 Speaker 1: in his views and made no bones about it and 850 00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:14,360 Speaker 1: was very open about it. And uh, you know, the 851 00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:19,040 Speaker 1: Harvard National Lampoon was notoriously left wing with their views. 852 00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:22,400 Speaker 1: So it's interesting for these two worlds to kind of clash, uh, 853 00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:26,600 Speaker 1: and not create much more than a delightful clip and 854 00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:30,719 Speaker 1: uh and some fun quotes. So that's really I guess 855 00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:31,960 Speaker 1: kind of where it ends. I mean, he got a 856 00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:33,800 Speaker 1: good response. Has he even heard if that clip that 857 00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:35,919 Speaker 1: I played is in fact the one from this event, 858 00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,640 Speaker 1: which really seems to be. He got a pretty warm response. 859 00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:42,160 Speaker 1: He got some laughs. Um. In the New York Times article, 860 00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:45,880 Speaker 1: they talked about even despite those sharp political divisions, at 861 00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,280 Speaker 1: the end of the day, it was all kind of settled, 862 00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:50,799 Speaker 1: was a quote with good humor and in the end 863 00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:55,719 Speaker 1: thunderous applause. Um. And then on this one article that 864 00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:59,040 Speaker 1: I found, there's a an embedded video. I haven't watched 865 00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:01,200 Speaker 1: it yet, but the headline on it is fascinating and 866 00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:05,120 Speaker 1: I'm very intrigued. Apparently Stalin once tried to have John 867 00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:09,800 Speaker 1: Wayne killed for like I guess his embodiment of like 868 00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:14,759 Speaker 1: American ingenuity. I don't know, but I Hitler wanted to 869 00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:17,920 Speaker 1: kill Clark Gable. He gave a huge reward out if 870 00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,319 Speaker 1: anybody could shoot down Clark Gable, because he actually did 871 00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:22,200 Speaker 1: go to war and he was a bomber. He was 872 00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:24,520 Speaker 1: flying over Europe, and they're like, if you can kill 873 00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:27,080 Speaker 1: Clark Gable, no, don't kill him, bring him to me. 874 00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:29,560 Speaker 1: You can bring me alive, Clark Gable, I will give 875 00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:32,920 Speaker 1: you honors and trophies and a reward. And people tried 876 00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:34,920 Speaker 1: and they could not do it. They could not shoot 877 00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:37,239 Speaker 1: down Clark Gable and get him. And he knew about this, 878 00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:39,719 Speaker 1: so he was constantly doing theseus aware that there was 879 00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:41,360 Speaker 1: a bounty on his head, and he's like, I'd like 880 00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:47,160 Speaker 1: to see him catchman Clark. Right. Yeah, that's a really 881 00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:50,480 Speaker 1: interesting point. I think that is exactly the kind of 882 00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:54,880 Speaker 1: thing that probably led to John Wayne being, you know, 883 00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:58,359 Speaker 1: ribbed a little bit for his invasion of service. Well, 884 00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:00,520 Speaker 1: Jimmy start also a bomb repile. There were a lot 885 00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:03,000 Speaker 1: of his contemporaries who said, I'm a father, I'm a 886 00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:06,000 Speaker 1: I'm a husband, I'm a star, and I'm gonna go 887 00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:08,600 Speaker 1: to war because it matters. And they went to theaters 888 00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:11,239 Speaker 1: where they were actually it could be killed. They were 889 00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:13,279 Speaker 1: doing combat, you know, and like Jimmy Stewart flew I 890 00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:16,719 Speaker 1: think like twenty or something bombing runs and you know, 891 00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:19,480 Speaker 1: then you come back and it was like, wow, j Jeremy, 892 00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:26,040 Speaker 1: Jimmy Stewart of a Nazi. Oh my god. I love 893 00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:28,800 Speaker 1: the Jimmy Stewart impression. I think everyone is basically just 894 00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:32,719 Speaker 1: doing Dana Carvey's Jimmy Stewart impression, which is just like 895 00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,920 Speaker 1: it's all shake, it's a boy. He doesn't even really 896 00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:39,600 Speaker 1: sound like that. Jimmy Stewart. I was doing Katherine Heppern. 897 00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:43,719 Speaker 1: Wait what see exactly exactly? Those are kind of interchangeable 898 00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:45,440 Speaker 1: in my mind, you know, not got off full of me, 899 00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:51,680 Speaker 1: Jimmy Stewart. That was pretty That's pretty good. Um So 900 00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:56,000 Speaker 1: there there it is, uh full circle with Nixon that 901 00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:59,399 Speaker 1: I was also gonna say full circle in that you said, 902 00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:03,120 Speaker 1: there's a embedded video here and I haven't watched it, 903 00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:05,759 Speaker 1: but the headline grabbed me. It reminded me of what 904 00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:09,480 Speaker 1: Elizabeth was saying about Ladies Night in Buffalo. You know, 905 00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:12,600 Speaker 1: everybody's like, let's love it from a distance. Also, I 906 00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:16,400 Speaker 1: wanted to point out, I don't know if it is accurate, 907 00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:21,319 Speaker 1: but Ladies Knight in Buffalo the title is an interrogative, 908 00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:25,919 Speaker 1: like like they're asking Ladies Night in Buffalo question mark. 909 00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:30,160 Speaker 1: At least from the headline, I'm seeing that puts a 910 00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:32,840 Speaker 1: whole different spin on it. For me. Again, I'm gonna like, 911 00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,520 Speaker 1: you just rolled into Buffalo. You're like, probably Ladies Night 912 00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:40,440 Speaker 1: in Buffalo, Ladies. I see it more. It's just he's painting. 913 00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:43,600 Speaker 1: The title alone paints a very vivid picture for me. 914 00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:46,960 Speaker 1: And then I do have to say, all right, I'll 915 00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:49,320 Speaker 1: confess to you, guys, I listened to the song today. 916 00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:52,040 Speaker 1: Why is he in on this Lady's Night in Buffalo? 917 00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:54,640 Speaker 1: That's what I wanted, That's what he is just bearing 918 00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:58,160 Speaker 1: witness to it. It's a celebration of women alone in 919 00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:00,680 Speaker 1: the world together, you know, like something that most men 920 00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:03,080 Speaker 1: would never see, like a ladies group in Buffalo. He 921 00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:06,279 Speaker 1: has not a chronicler of the life and times of 922 00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:09,839 Speaker 1: ladies in Buffalo. This Ladies Knight in Buffalo back up 923 00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:14,319 Speaker 1: and David Lee Roth. He's secure enough in his masculinity 924 00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:17,280 Speaker 1: to let them have the Knight in Buffalo because he 925 00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:19,440 Speaker 1: knows if he waits it out, they're going to involve him. 926 00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:24,360 Speaker 1: Game The Ladies Knight in Buffalo nine times out of 927 00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:28,520 Speaker 1: ten ends with David David Lee Roth Morning in Buffalo 928 00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:34,680 Speaker 1: Another David Lee Rock Morning. Oh. The concept album that 929 00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:37,240 Speaker 1: he is surely going to have covered out as a 930 00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:40,320 Speaker 1: as a follow up to this boggles the mind. Maybe 931 00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:43,200 Speaker 1: there will even be some John Wayne samples on there. 932 00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:46,959 Speaker 1: If so, they'll hopefully be from uh that hard hitting 933 00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:51,800 Speaker 1: interview with the Harvard Lampoon. Who also learned from that 934 00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:56,240 Speaker 1: New York Times article that members of the National Lampoon 935 00:57:56,480 --> 00:58:01,440 Speaker 1: in Harvard are referred to as Poonies. Yes, yeah, but 936 00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:05,240 Speaker 1: that's self identifying and they put that name on They 937 00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:10,600 Speaker 1: they're excited about that, I think, right, they're they're proud 938 00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:14,040 Speaker 1: of it. So it's it's not us bad now, they's 939 00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:15,840 Speaker 1: not at all. But they put that out there. They 940 00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:18,960 Speaker 1: want us to think of them as they do. I 941 00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:20,600 Speaker 1: wonder if that's still a thing to this day. It 942 00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:24,400 Speaker 1: seems like the kind of thing that would like stick around. Probably, Yeah, 943 00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:28,200 Speaker 1: I gotta say I'm a little sad to be leaving 944 00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:32,200 Speaker 1: this intentional two part episode, but boy, if we had adventures. 945 00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:36,840 Speaker 1: We have touched on a lot of different historical celebrity 946 00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:44,800 Speaker 1: you know, busts, slash scandals slash drunken publicness is um 947 00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:47,800 Speaker 1: and I really can't thank you guys enough for joining us, 948 00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:49,880 Speaker 1: Thank you for having us. We had a blast. This 949 00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:53,960 Speaker 1: is a great Yeah, thank you so much, Zarin Elizabeth. 950 00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:58,760 Speaker 1: Where can people learn more about Ridiculous Crime? Where can 951 00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:02,440 Speaker 1: they check out the episod zodes which are available now? Well, 952 00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:05,760 Speaker 1: you can obviously go to your podcast listening app of 953 00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:08,600 Speaker 1: your preference, or obviously we have social media, so you 954 00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:11,160 Speaker 1: can catch us on Instagram and on Twitter where we 955 00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:16,480 Speaker 1: are always at Ridiculous Crime, and Instagram will provide us 956 00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:20,720 Speaker 1: a way to supplement our stories with visual elements. That's true, 957 00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:24,960 Speaker 1: And don't wait for everybody to check out the episodes. 958 00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:28,000 Speaker 1: They are out now. I've listened. I'm a fan as well. 959 00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:31,200 Speaker 1: This is, by the way, also the first episode we've 960 00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:34,760 Speaker 1: ever done with two super producers, So thank you so 961 00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:38,880 Speaker 1: much to Super Dave, Thank you to Mr Max Williams. 962 00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:43,000 Speaker 1: Know what what a ride I was hypnotized. I was 963 00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:50,760 Speaker 1: delighted the best of times hypnotized. Your eyes did see Yeah, 964 00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:53,760 Speaker 1: just so and uh and then I guess what we'll 965 00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:58,080 Speaker 1: have to do is get back together on another show. 966 00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:00,840 Speaker 1: And maybe we'd like to have guys on our show 967 01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:04,920 Speaker 1: like I would you like to do? Come to that. Yes, 968 01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:06,840 Speaker 1: if you come on the show, you can hear my 969 01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:11,680 Speaker 1: celebrity impressions and they are spot on this lawless You 970 01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:14,440 Speaker 1: got okay, then you gotta come on the show and 971 01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:17,480 Speaker 1: you'll hear one. Now that's how we do it. Yeah, 972 01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:20,320 Speaker 1: tell him there we go. Right. So in the meantime, 973 01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:23,120 Speaker 1: you can find our show where you found it, because 974 01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:25,240 Speaker 1: you're you've already found it. Uh. And you can find 975 01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:28,160 Speaker 1: Ben and I as individual human Internet people. Um. I 976 01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:32,080 Speaker 1: am exclusively on Instagram at how now Noel Brown? Ben 977 01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:35,280 Speaker 1: about yourself? Well, thank you for asking, Noel. If you 978 01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:38,960 Speaker 1: want to look behind the scenes at the various misadventures, 979 01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:42,840 Speaker 1: research and shenanigans, I find myself involved in all of 980 01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:45,240 Speaker 1: the wholesome variety. You can find me on Twitter, app 981 01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:48,520 Speaker 1: and bull in hs W or on Instagram where a 982 01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:51,920 Speaker 1: burst of creativity I've started calling myself at Ben Bulling 983 01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:54,320 Speaker 1: gott to lock that handle down, dude, I can't. I'm 984 01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:56,800 Speaker 1: so proud of you. There's a ben bull in seven 985 01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:59,080 Speaker 1: in addition to the well ben bull in seven to 986 01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:02,280 Speaker 1: six in addition to the Ben Bull and three, we 987 01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:05,800 Speaker 1: squashed the beef for all nice. We'll see you next time, 988 01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:16,120 Speaker 1: post bye. For more podcasts from my Heart Radio, visit 989 01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:18,720 Speaker 1: the I heart Radio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you 990 01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:20,200 Speaker 1: listen to your favorite shows.