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Speaker 4: wheel by bitch. Hey, welcome to the black Out Tests podcast.

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Speaker 4: people that donated today. But before we even do that,

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Speaker 4: I actually wanted to say, uh, there was an issue

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Speaker 4: in our Facebook group where there was some dude that was, uh, look,

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Speaker 4: sometimes people get a little buck wild in the Facebook group. Okay,

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Speaker 4: all right, people, might you know do like thirst threads

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Speaker 4: and it'll be like a theme like take a picture

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Speaker 4: That's fine, Well that was you know, and I mean

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Speaker 4: etiquette is pretty much understood and people normally do apply,

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Speaker 4: you know, at least from what I've seen, follow the etiquette.

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Speaker 4: You know, like people might post a picture, but you're

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Speaker 4: not supposed to be you know, direct messaging those people,

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Speaker 4: harassing those people online, or anything like that off of it.

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Speaker 4: Although it is the Internet, anything you post, we can't

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Speaker 4: but in general, it seems like most people followed that rule.

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Speaker 4: But there was this dude that was hitting up women

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Speaker 4: so somebody called him out and then other women start

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Speaker 3: You know, this is just an egregious violation on the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so this was just an egregious violation on the

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Speaker 4: of the who the fuck friend is this? Why did

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Speaker 4: thought that maybe y'all can help them out. No, you know,

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Speaker 5: But I'm sorry, and they haven't.

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Speaker 2: And there have been people that have doned the group

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Speaker 4: record scratch scratch, when I see somebody active, motherfucking food

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Speaker 3: I watch people.

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Speaker 4: five star reviews on iTunes of Stitcher number one. Dabber

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Speaker 4: Denise said, still tipping five stars. Hello roder Karen, this

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Speaker 4: Five stars by Future PhD, who says I had to

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Speaker 4: Thanks as always for clapping back on those who choose

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Speaker 3: Come on, Oh thank you, Future.

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Speaker 2: When you're gonna fuck, when you're gonna fuck, when you're

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Speaker 4: You know, when they say glorious, it made me think

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Speaker 4: The other day, I was in Chipotle. I was like,

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Speaker 5: I don't know, gave you a blank stare like.

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Speaker 2: Why singing in the line the.

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Speaker 3: Red is for the saucer. The niggas be intense, at least.

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Speaker 5: They they laugh at me because I'm real simple. What

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Speaker 5: you wanna? I said, green red? I just call her

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Speaker 5: whatever color? We know? The different names ship is too much?

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Speaker 3: Go ahead, we got one more. One more On stitcher.

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Speaker 3: H MJ.

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Speaker 4: Not Famous says five Stars only gets better and better.

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Speaker 3: I came to the show about a.

441
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 4: Year ago after reading an interview with Rod I was

442
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 4: instantly curious, and the more I listened, the more hooked

443
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Speaker 4: I got. Rod and Karen brings so much honesty and

444
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,720
Speaker 4: humor you start feeling like you know them. I feel

445
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:24,440
Speaker 4: like any news that I hear, I instantly want their opinions. Karen,

446
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,680
Speaker 4: Rod always leave me thinking whether it's a serious issue

447
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 4: or something ridiculous in white people news, right, your puns

448
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,560
Speaker 4: always leave me laughing and shaking my head. Karen, your

449
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 4: laughing is infectious and your rants are wisdom. Thank you

450
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,919
Speaker 4: for bringing your beauty and candor to the podcast world.

451
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Speaker 4: You have a listener for life. Oh thank you, Thank you.

452
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Speaker 3: You internationally known around these parts.

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Speaker 4: Then uh, and then we also have some commentary on

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Speaker 4: the website, the Blackout Toils dot com. Of course, every

455
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Speaker 4: episode we post make a post. You can go there,

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Speaker 4: log in, leave comments, voting the polls.

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Speaker 2: Nancy as you can mine. Huh, so you didn't differate

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Speaker 2: between you just read them all.

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Speaker 4: I read the first three from iTunes and I just

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Speaker 4: said that lies on some stitcher.

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Speaker 5: Okay, okay, I want to be bad all yeah, I.

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Speaker 3: Read them all. But uh oh yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 4: So you can go to the blackoutest dot com and

464
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Speaker 4: each episode has a post and you can like leave

465
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Speaker 4: a comment and voting to post and all that stuff.

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Speaker 3: So some people did that this week.

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Speaker 4: Monica left a comment on episode fourteen hundred Live Outside

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Speaker 4: the Bowl. I just cack away too loudly when Rod

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Speaker 4: told Karen she could google Farena instead of derailing the

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Speaker 4: email with the question, and Karen was like, so I

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Speaker 4: will then, then Rod was like, I google with it

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Speaker 4: for you.

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Speaker 2: Ha.

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Speaker 3: I'm both kring totally on my own train of thought.

475
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Speaker 4: Thinking out loud and Rod sarcastically not appreciating the interruption.

476
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Speaker 4: And it was a very cute, very funny and genuine

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Speaker 4: couple's money moment. Thank you, Monica. Ms Mars says, one,

478
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Speaker 4: just because you add the milk after the cereal, it

479
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Speaker 4: doesn't mean have to mean Saggi cereal. If you pour

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Speaker 4: the cereal in first, they pour the milk along the

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Speaker 4: side of the bowl, it goes under the cereal. This

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Speaker 4: is correct. I know because I've done cereal like this before. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's possible. Care Listen, I'm not against your anti bowl lifestyle.

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Speaker 3: Your different, but you don't have to.

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Speaker 4: Shame us for like I don't shame people for eating

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Speaker 4: a kit cats.

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Speaker 3: The quote unquote right way.

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Speaker 2: I don't shame you either, but your way ain't the

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Speaker 2: only way I want you to know you.

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Speaker 5: Right bowlers over here, right wing bowlers.

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Speaker 4: Number two about the girl harassing the other girl in school,

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Speaker 4: I think I get where this parent could.

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Speaker 3: Be coming from.

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Speaker 4: We're conditioning to have knee jerk reactions, even when we

495
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Speaker 4: think we have unlearned those responses. Occasionally we run across

496
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Speaker 4: the situation we aren't prepared for. As a society, we're

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Speaker 4: dismissive of hetero harassment, and schoolgirls are constantly told that

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Speaker 4: a boy harassing them just likes them, which is ridiculous.

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Speaker 4: Little Stevie snaps, your bro says fil things, you push

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Speaker 4: you down, all because he likes you.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 4: Further, society doesn't deal with homosexuality well either. When you

503
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Speaker 4: add to homosexuality to the already poorly handle head or

504
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Speaker 4: sexual harassment, people get shook.

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Speaker 3: It's a situation very few seriously talk.

506
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Speaker 4: About or deal with, so there aren't many, even many

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Speaker 4: examples of how to effectively handle it. The same adults

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Speaker 4: comfortable with harassment by the opposite sex often react far

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Speaker 4: more seriously when in fronted with same sex harassment. The

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Speaker 4: cool thing is that this parent asked, instead of going

511
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Speaker 4: with the knee jerk reaction. Oh yeah, for sure. I

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Speaker 4: guess it's just like I said, it never crossed my

513
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Speaker 4: mind how different you would treat that. But I guess

514
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Speaker 4: in some people's mind it's just like you know, they

515
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Speaker 4: would treat it differently, right, Like.

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Speaker 5: The harassment is harassment. I don't give it. Damn what

517
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Speaker 5: sex it is?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Like, why wouldn't you treat the steps because you

519
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Speaker 4: only have certain steps in the school, no matter what.

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Speaker 4: So right, But you never know because people do have

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Speaker 4: hate man, and they do like you will see people

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Speaker 4: that say, like I said, this is the same society

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Speaker 4: where Tracy More it was acceptable on a stage full

524
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Speaker 4: of people in an audience to say he would stab

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Speaker 4: his son in the chest for being gay. Now he

526
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Speaker 4: did apologize, But just the fact that even off the cuff,

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Speaker 4: you think an audience full of people would if they

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Speaker 4: didn't agree with it, they would at least find it

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Speaker 4: funny at the minimum, That says a lot about our society.

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Speaker 4: You know, I think a lot of times people just

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Speaker 4: don't consider sometimes it's the state. It's not so much

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Speaker 4: that the statement itself, but the fact that people feel

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Speaker 4: comfortable making a statement like that. It says what they

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Speaker 4: feel society is reflecting back to them. So yeah, it

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Speaker 4: says a lot that a person could think that, yes,

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Speaker 4: this joke, there's nothing wrong with this. And like I said,

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Speaker 4: I don't remember the clip exactly, but if people laughed

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Speaker 4: at that, it pretty much justifies his homophobia in that situation.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I completely understand.

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Speaker 4: You have the pole, how do you eat cereal milk first,

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Speaker 4: the poor cereal, cereal first and poor milk or some

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Speaker 4: other disgusting weird away milk first and poor cereal? Eight

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Speaker 4: percent are with Careen eighty Cereal first in poor milk,

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Speaker 4: and then six percent say some other disgusting weird away.

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Speaker 3: Ah, I don't know. They didn't leave comments with Ley F.

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Speaker 4: Brooks only left left the only comment, which says, I'm

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Speaker 4: triggered by this picture one hundred and it was a

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Speaker 4: picture of how to drink milk with Cereal? How to

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Speaker 4: do milk and Cereal. We had episode fourteen oh one,

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Speaker 4: Uncle Chuck is uh I think this is when we

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Speaker 4: first Well, yeah, they got the tiele from of course

552
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Speaker 4: Charles Barcley's comments about black people as usual, But this

553
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Speaker 4: is when we first started talking about the Chimamanda discussion,

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Speaker 4: and so people were writing in and like I said,

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Speaker 4: I really.

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Speaker 3: Like I'm just taking people's word for what they said.

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Speaker 4: I think a lot of people are, you know, to

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Speaker 4: some extent, trying to talk over trans people on this

559
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Speaker 4: shit rather than just read what they say or you know,

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Speaker 4: give you know, give people the respect that they're asking for,

561
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Speaker 4: rather than try to like fight them on it, especially

562
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Speaker 4: since we don't really know, like there's so few people

563
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Speaker 4: that we that, like statistically that we know of that

564
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Speaker 4: are trends, and so few people that people have personal

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Speaker 4: interactions with, but yet they want to tell them how

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Speaker 4: their life was and all this shit, and it seems

567
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Speaker 4: like a lot and oh, somebody just love a comment

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Speaker 4: during the episode hold On And it was on the

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Speaker 4: last it was on the serial one, So let me

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Speaker 4: just read it real quick. I'm sorry, Hey Roy, Hey Karen,

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Speaker 4: Just to follow up, it's okay to have your girl

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Speaker 4: push the car if you need to pop the clutch.

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Speaker 3: Yes, this did actually happen to me lol.

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Speaker 4: To answer your question about who was pushing, I was

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Speaker 4: pushing from the door and steering.

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Speaker 3: My girl was pushing from the back.

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Speaker 4: Unfortunately she had never been through the process of pushing

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Speaker 4: the car to pop the clutch, so she did not

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Speaker 4: know to stop pushing when I hopped in the car.

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Speaker 4: So once I popped the clutch and get the car moving,

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Speaker 4: I look in the rearview mirror and she is nowhere

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Speaker 4: to be found. I stopped the car. I didn't turn

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Speaker 4: it off. Of course, I get out to see where

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Speaker 4: she went. She had fallen because she had still been

585
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Speaker 4: trying to push the car as it started pulling away.

586
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Speaker 3: I felt super bad. She had a hole in.

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Speaker 4: The knee of her work pants as as she had

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Speaker 4: driven from work to come help me. I asked her

589
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Speaker 4: if she was okay what she was and both of

590
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Speaker 4: us busted up laughing because the ship was hell funny.

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Speaker 4: I keep the jumper cables in my car. Love you guys,

592
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 4: love the show. Well, anonymous one, I know why you said, Anonymous,

593
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Speaker 4: this is terrible two. I hope you married her, man.

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Speaker 4: I hope that's a keeper. That's a keeper right there,

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Speaker 4: Yes she.

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Speaker 3: Is, because in a world where triple A exists, you

597
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Speaker 3: would have been on your own. Buddy, Dad's a keeper. Yep,

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Speaker 3: all right, let me.

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Speaker 4: Like I said, Let's go back to episode fourteen. Oh one, uh,

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Speaker 4: just E says on a ratio from conversations about transgender people,

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Speaker 4: you mentioned how trans men are often left out of

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Speaker 4: these conversations. Non binary agenda and queer and gender queer

603
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Speaker 4: people who fall under the trans umbrella, if we operate

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Speaker 4: under the definition of trans being identified as a gender

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Speaker 4: other than the one to sign at birth also frequently

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Speaker 4: left out of the conversation. I just wanted to put

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Speaker 4: that out there. Oh yeah, you're absolutely right. There's I mean,

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Speaker 4: like I said, hold on, we have an issue. Let

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Speaker 4: me refresh real quick, give me one second. Alright, let's

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Speaker 4: bring it right back.

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Speaker 3: Mm hm hm.

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Speaker 5: M hmmm.

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Speaker 6: I'm going to understand.

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Speaker 5: All right, are we back yet?

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Speaker 3: That can people see? Okay? Cool, all right, everybody can

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Speaker 3: see all right, now back to the comment. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: you're right. Yeah, I mean, like I said, we all learning.

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Speaker 4: We all have like our own blind spots and privileges

619
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Speaker 4: and ship and honestly, I have even less exposure to people.

620
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Speaker 2: That are.

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Speaker 4: Non binary, agender, gender queer, like I like, even like

622
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Speaker 4: that's something that's a virgin in territory for me, And

623
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Speaker 4: I don't feel comfortable speaking on or about or for

624
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Speaker 4: people that you know, that are in a group where

625
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Speaker 4: I definitely don't have any experience with that, Like like

626
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Speaker 4: I just want people to understand that this isn't about

627
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Speaker 4: us being like we're so woke and you guys don't

628
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Speaker 4: know ship if we studied this and we're right, Like,

629
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Speaker 4: I'm not trying to shame people. I literally don't fucking

630
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Speaker 4: know what it's like. So I go to the people

631
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Speaker 4: that live that life and go, Okay, this is what

632
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Speaker 4: they say. I don't understand how it would be harmful

633
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Speaker 4: to believe them. This doesn't seem to be like some

634
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 4: like when it doesn't seem to be like when what

635
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 4: do you call it? The four chance people make up

636
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 4: like these trolling things were like I'm I'm a pedophile

637
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 4: gender or some shit where they're like clearly trolling to

638
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 4: try to like be like it's just another choice to

639
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 4: have sex with children. I don't understand the problem. And

640
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 4: you're like, okay, you're trying to couch it and quote

641
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 4: unquote Joe so justice warrior speak so that you can

642
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 4: like defend this indefensible thing that.

643
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 3: Doesn't seem to be what's happening. It's just people being like,

644
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 3: this is my fucking life.

645
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 4: This is how I live my life like it's not

646
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 4: an act for Twitter or social media, and you know,

647
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 4: and literally people are dying.

648
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 3: Because this is their existence. And it just feels extremely

649
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Speaker 3: wrong to come in and be like, no, guys, can't

650
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Speaker 3: you can't do this. No, I gotta figure it out.

651
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 4: Person that doesn't live your life or understand it, you know,

652
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 4: all right, listening at work today it's PhD twenty fourteen.

653
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 4: Listening at work all day to day. I mean, you

654
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 4: got so much? Can I wait for the Walking Dad recap?

655
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 4: Cray Morgan is lit Ari says, I guess I can

656
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 4: understand trying to find some middle ground, but bending over

657
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 4: backwards to give forty five a hand job for reading

658
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 4: a teleprompter and not going off the rail seemed like

659
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 4: quite a reach. In its first one hundred days, he's

660
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 4: ran around like a lunatic sign and eos and repelling

661
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:41,359
Speaker 4: everything Obama did while accomplishing absolutely fucking nothing, and they're

662
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 4: giving him props for just the I mean, and he's

663
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,800
Speaker 4: trying to take credit for things Obama accomplished, like still

664
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:49,919
Speaker 4: like I've been in the office and nobody talked about

665
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 4: how I did this thing.

666
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 3: You're like, because it wasn't you. You didn't have a

667
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 3: chance to do shit yet, right.

668
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 2: Like nigga, all these numbers that you praised, and about

669
00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 2: time by most people signed up for for the new

670
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 2: healthcare plan because it's the old one. Motherfucker. What are

671
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 2: we talking about here? You don't get to claim of

672
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 2: people's shit, right and it feels like forever.

673
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, go ahead, No, you don't need to apologize.

674
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 4: So, uh yeah, we're really supposed to be impressed because

675
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 4: he didn't show his whole entire ass in public this

676
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 4: time as his no girl bye yeah. Van Jones is

677
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 4: just lowering the bar. Am Sashapir says, the discussion around

678
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 4: time Monda's comments is so nuanced and interesting. Here's something

679
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 4: I feel gets left out. I know trans women who

680
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 4: identify very strongly as trans women and reject being referred

681
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 4: to as just women when it's used without a qualifier

682
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,760
Speaker 4: as an umbrella term. They say, I'm not just a woman,

683
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,720
Speaker 4: I'm a trans woman. They want their identity and struggle

684
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 4: to be seen a highlighted and not lumped into the

685
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 4: experiences assist women. The desire is specifically to be called

686
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 4: a trans woman is very similar in the way that

687
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 4: black women. Feminists claim that societal identity separate them from

688
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 4: the default white concepts of womanhood and feminism. Yes, trans

689
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 4: women should be allowed to speak for themselves, but interestingly,

690
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 4: some of the more vocal advocates have a blind spot.

691
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 4: Not all trans women are a monolist on this. You

692
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 4: really have to ask people how they want to be

693
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 4: referred to. In my circle, pushing the term woman quote

694
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:24,320
Speaker 4: unquote real woman comes with such a strong sense of erasure.

695
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 4: I'm sis, but have questioned my gender identity in various

696
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 4: ways growing up.

697
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:28,919
Speaker 3: I've been hurting.

698
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 4: I've seen my friends hurt when well mean assistant trans

699
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:33,919
Speaker 4: women get too caught up in this idea of quote

700
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 4: unquote real women. To my mind, that should be careful

701
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 4: with the words. But some of the people, especially in backlash,

702
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 4: often offend other trans women too. They don't realize that

703
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 4: their insistence clumsily implies that women should be the standard

704
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 4: to strive toward. This gives even more complicated controversial when

705
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,399
Speaker 4: the loudest advocates are the more traditionally fem presenting ones

706
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 4: who can.

707
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 3: Pass y'all hear you.

708
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:01,439
Speaker 4: I have not read those on this where trans people

709
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 4: are saying tim and Minda was right, I don't want

710
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 4: to be called a woman and I don't and.

711
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 3: Trans women shouldn't be included in being a woman, right uh.

712
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 4: And then more importantly, it wasn't like I don't think

713
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 4: it is like when black women say I'm not I

714
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,879
Speaker 4: don't want to be included in basically feminism because it's

715
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 4: a white thing, because they're not saying I'm not a woman,

716
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,240
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Like the like the default

717
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 4: is still you get like you're in this group and

718
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 4: you're a branch of this group. And Tima Mina's comments

719
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 4: were very much no, you're your other You're not a

720
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 4: woman period, like to be to couch it in nice

721
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 4: flowery language, cool, but the same end of the day,

722
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 4: you cannot be in this group. And when there are

723
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:51,280
Speaker 4: women who are trans who are saying no, that was wrong,

724
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 4: I don't understand how people can just be like, well

725
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 4: fuck those women essentially, and I don't and I would

726
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 4: have to see what the like I said, I would

727
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 4: have to see like trans women who are saying this.

728
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,800
Speaker 4: I agree with him a mind that we're not in

729
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 4: this group before just saying something like that, because I

730
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 4: haven't seen anything and I've been looking for different opinions

731
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,359
Speaker 4: and reading different things on it, but I just haven't

732
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 4: seen anybody express that.

733
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, And even the women that says that they're trans women,

734
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:27,320
Speaker 2: at the end, they still say women. So when people

735
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 2: speak across the board in general, they just go women, right,

736
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 2: you know, And it is a sub section of the

737
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 2: group of women. And I do understand that women go, hey,

738
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 2: I'm a black woman, as you woman. You know that

739
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,280
Speaker 2: a trans woman broke it down like that, that's fine,

740
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 2: But behind.

741
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 5: Whatever description you want to give yourself is the term.

742
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 3: Women, right.

743
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 5: And the thing is, yes, within the group.

744
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 2: People do want specific identities and they do want to

745
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 2: to stand out in their own unique ways, and there's

746
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 2: nothing wrong with that at all. And the problem is

747
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 2: that what she what she says is that she want

748
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 2: to just kick them completely out of the group, because

749
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 2: these women are still up saying I'm a trans woman.

750
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 5: They don't say I am not a woman. They just

751
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 5: said I am a transwoman. Like I distinguish a difference between.

752
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 3: That, right.

753
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,800
Speaker 4: It's like if somebody said I'm a black woman, we

754
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 4: don't go, well, you're not a woman then, right, Like

755
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,320
Speaker 4: that's a whole different group. Like if someone you know,

756
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,800
Speaker 4: if someone were to say, well, black women aren't women,

757
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 4: they're black women, we'd be like, the fuck do you

758
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 4: mean by that? Like you're still a woman, Like you

759
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 4: can't kick somebody out of womanhood because you just like

760
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 4: you know, or you feel that that's difference?

761
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 3: Is there?

762
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 4: I mean, isn't that the point is that there's differences

763
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 4: among all this stuff? And like I said, once again,

764
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 4: kind of just erasist the idea that this would ever

765
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 4: happen with manhood as.

766
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 3: Well, you know, So I don't know.

767
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 4: It's just like I said, it's it's definitely complicated, and

768
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 4: I definitely understand that there's gonna be people that view

769
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 4: it differently, but a lot of people seem to be

770
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 4: kind of talking over rather.

771
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 3: Than letting people talk for themselves.

772
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:18,319
Speaker 4: And like I said, I just haven't read the any

773
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 4: I haven't read a trans woman who has spoken about

774
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 4: Tima Minda's comments and.

775
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 3: Said I agree with her and this is why she's

776
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:29,839
Speaker 3: right now. It could it could.

777
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 4: I'm sure it exists. I just haven't read it to

778
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 4: even have to read it on the show. Even you know,

779
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 4: I've seen a lot of CIS people try to say that,

780
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 4: you know, to speak like to say it like to

781
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 4: defend her basically, which I think has a lot more

782
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 4: to do with her being a lot of people's fave

783
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 4: or anything else.

784
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 3: Because if this had.

785
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 4: Been somebody, Yeah, this has been somebody they didn't like.

786
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 4: I feel like they would be like, oh na, fuck that.

787
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 4: Like if if this would have been Tyree's talking about

788
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 4: trans women, it's trans women and women are women.

789
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 3: People have been like, man, what the fuck are you

790
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 3: talking about?

791
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 2: You know? Yeah? Uh?

792
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 4: Anyway, another person said, hey, hey, and I hope I'm

793
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 4: pronouncing this right.

794
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. If I'm not. It looks like, hey, hey, Shaniki,

795
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 3: if I'm pronouncing it wrong, I'm sorry.

796
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 2: Uh.

797
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 3: This is a really interesting discussion.

798
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 4: I believe the trans women are women and they do

799
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 4: not need CIS women to speak for them. But I

800
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 4: don't think saying that a CIS women's experience is different

801
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 4: than a trans woman's attempting to speak for them. I

802
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:35,439
Speaker 4: don't think we're saying that either. I think everybody's saying

803
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 4: that the experience is very.

804
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

805
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 4: I think, yeah, I'm not saying that they're not the same, right,

806
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:45,359
Speaker 4: I feel like the same, Yeah, I'm not. I mean, yeah,

807
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 4: I'm not saying that the experiences are the same. I'm

808
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,359
Speaker 4: just saying no to women's experiences are.

809
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 3: The same, but we don't then go and that's why

810
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:53,800
Speaker 3: you're not a woman.

811
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 6: Right.

812
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 4: However, I can also agree that while many people have

813
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 4: explained that to be Adichi's point, that is not what

814
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 4: she said. Like black women and white women, that are

815
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 4: experiences that united as women, and there are differences. There

816
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 4: are privileges that cists women have that trands do not,

817
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:12,760
Speaker 4: and I thought LaVerne's response to Adichi's comments perfectly captured

818
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 4: the complexity of intersectional identity. I at least appreciate the

819
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,720
Speaker 4: various respectives from both trans assists women on the subject

820
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 4: and how they have informed my understanding of my position

821
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 4: as a black woman. Mad Sanity says, when this is

822
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 4: supposed to be a pole response, but they were fired

823
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 4: in a jack or whatever, It's fine, Mad Sanity says.

824
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 4: When I was in the elementary In elementary school, we

825
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 4: had those tired things football players used to do high

826
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 4: knee drills on our playground, and one of the tires

827
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 4: was not fully buried. While the well the class jerk

828
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:44,879
Speaker 4: who picked on me for being a big, chubby kid

829
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 4: and possibly because I was also the only black kid

830
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,359
Speaker 4: in the class for the second year in a row.

831
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 4: Was busy trying to sword fight my smaller friend with

832
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 4: a sharpened stick. When he backed my friend into a corner,

833
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:56,800
Speaker 4: I figured it was a good time to put the

834
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 4: brakes on his bullying by hitting him with that loose tire.

835
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 3: I don't remember much.

836
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 4: I was nine attend when this happened, but I do

837
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,760
Speaker 4: remember the tie being wet and smelly, and the bully

838
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 4: laying on the ground crying with the muddy tire tracks

839
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 4: on his back. Who comment was in for the Paul

840
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 4: working mistakes? It's okay. Yeah, I've had to fight a

841
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:16,720
Speaker 4: couple of bullies.

842
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 5: In my time, and I'm so glad I never had

843
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 5: that problem.

844
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, and uh, every time I fall back, man, it

845
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 3: really did end the problem.

846
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 4: You know what.

847
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 2: I found a bully one time, but they wasn't bullying

848
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:28,399
Speaker 2: me or as bullying my cousin.

849
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 5: Was just a completely different story.

850
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 2: And that's because girls are bigger than boys, and then

851
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 2: boys just kind of shoot higher than them. Because even

852
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 2: though I'm actually short and my gross burt happened earlier

853
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,320
Speaker 2: before most boys, and so then I stopped growing. Everybody

854
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 2: got taller than me. But yeah, I was about the

855
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 2: fifth grade. I was basically one of the tallest girls

856
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 2: of one of the tallest you know, students, because you know,

857
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 2: I'm four five feet almost at that age when most

858
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 2: people get taller later. And yeah, he was messing my cousin,

859
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 2: and honey, I couldn't fight with but I sure did.

860
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 2: The old school wouldn't meld the hell out of him

861
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 2: and push him all down.

862
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 5: This was that summer camp.

863
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 2: Pushed him all down the breaches because I got tired

864
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 2: of him picking on my cousin. It was like day

865
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:10,359
Speaker 2: after day after day, and I had shit.

866
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 5: I got had bad. I had enough for you. Dog.

867
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I had a summer cap dude that tried to

868
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 4: bully me over some baseball cards. They were trying to

869
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 4: make these really unfair baseball card trades. And I know

870
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,399
Speaker 4: shit about baseball. I'm sure they were getting the fuck

871
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 4: out of me, but uh, yeah, he got mad about

872
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 4: some shit some card I wouldn't trade him, and I

873
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:34,800
Speaker 4: pushed him his motherfucking nose and it's no started bleeding

874
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:36,280
Speaker 4: and he was crying and shit.

875
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 3: And he messed with me again.

876
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 4: Brooklyn Shoe Base said, speaking of bully and I was

877
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 4: bullied very badly in middle school, and every teacher or

878
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 4: administer's reaction was to put you to pull me out

879
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:49,280
Speaker 4: of class whenever I would yell or try to retaliate.

880
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 4: It wasn't the physical bullying, but the relational bully that

881
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 4: I went through. There was Constantine Colin threats, et cetera.

882
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 4: The scene and Moonlight where he walks determinedly in the

883
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 4: class that beast his bully with a chair.

884
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 3: Had me in tears because that was me, I felt.

885
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 4: The last anger during the baseball game at Recess, I

886
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 4: had grabbed a baseball bat march to the cafe tier

887
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 4: to bash my.

888
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 3: Tormentors in the head.

889
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 4: They weren't there, but I ended up chasing someone to

890
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 4: the boy's bathroom and swinging at the door. Thank god

891
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 4: I didn't hurt anyone, all right, Yeah, who knows how

892
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 4: they would have categorized you after that. Recently at my

893
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 4: daughter's middle school, four Muslim students would be being so

894
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 4: badly bully post Trump election that they brought nads to school.

895
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 4: Now they're in trouble and those who pushed them go unpublished.

896
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 4: Schools are ill equipped to deal with bully, and you

897
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 4: can't just ignore it and it will go away, right Evie.

898
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 4: He says, the story about the kid who fought back

899
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 4: at the racist bully really triggered me, because sometimes you

900
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 4: don't actually snap into the abuse has been ongoing. It

901
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 4: reminds me of two incidents in my high school one

902
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 4: and where one was me and the other was with

903
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,839
Speaker 4: this other girl. With the other girl, there was this girl,

904
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 4: let's call her Tasha, Tasha zero. Then on this really

905
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 4: petite girl will call Anna, was so quiet and never

906
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 4: bothered anyone that I noticed. Tasha would throw stuff at

907
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 4: the girl and clown her every day. And one day

908
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 4: Anna had had enough to told Tasha to leave her alone.

909
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 4: But she said, leave me alone, you hippo. Tasha was

910
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,280
Speaker 4: on the big side. This set Tasha office.

911
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 3: She went to hit Anna. What no one knew was

912
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 3: that Anna had a black belt.

913
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,240
Speaker 4: I've never seen anyone get that ass kick as badly

914
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 4: as Tasha. There were loose braids on the ground, and

915
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,959
Speaker 4: a boy was clown in Tasha and picking up her hair, saying,

916
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 4: you forgot something, man.

917
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:29,240
Speaker 3: That was funny.

918
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 4: But Tasha only got in school suspension and Anna got

919
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:33,879
Speaker 4: a whole week because she was told that she took

920
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 4: it too far. The other story wasn't as entertainment because

921
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 4: I snapped on this girl who wouldn't leave me alone,

922
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 4: and it took me fighting back physically before she left

923
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 4: me alone. I literally blacked out. But people say I

924
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,879
Speaker 4: won that fight. That girl did try to be nice

925
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 4: to me afterwards, but fuck her. Sometimes bullies need to

926
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 4: be taught a lesson before they leave you alone. I

927
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 4: bet that kids bully in North Carolina school will talk

928
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 4: shit behind that kid's back, but you won't say it

929
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 4: to his face.

930
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 3: Yep, rob would you just lead people?

931
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 2: That's the thing, because the problem is that you persist.

932
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 2: Persists persists because I maybe I'm on fashioned. Some some

933
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 2: people ain't never had that ass whopping, or they never

934
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,399
Speaker 2: had anybody punch them in the face and say I've

935
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 2: had enough for you, Like they don't know that nobody

936
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,320
Speaker 2: has ever showed them boundaries. Sometimes it's not even ass whooping.

937
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 2: Nobody has showed you that there are boundaries. That's only

938
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 2: so far you can go. And if you've never been taught,

939
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 2: that's only so far you can go. Somebody gonna teach

940
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 2: you that lesson, and it's not gonna be in the

941
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 2: results that you think it can be in and it's

942
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 2: sad for some people that end result is down for

943
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 2: you know, you just hope you get an ass whooping.

944
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 2: But sometimes some people are all fuck you and they'll

945
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 2: take your life. So I just hope that people learn

946
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,839
Speaker 2: the lesson leave people alone, that's all. People just won't

947
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 2: leave their lives.

948
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 5: They don't want to be harassed.

949
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 2: I don't want to be bothered by you because of

950
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 2: your goddamn insecurities. A lot of times people are bullies

951
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:53,839
Speaker 2: because of their insecurities.

952
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, uh, but yeah, I'm glad you fall back and

953
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 4: saying to that other girl, taekwon do, I learned a

954
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 4: couple moves that could like take someone's punch and twist

955
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,359
Speaker 4: it into like putting their arm behind their back and shit,

956
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 4: And so I didn't you know, if it came down

957
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 4: to it, sometimes you just have.

958
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 3: To do some shit like that.

959
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 4: That's definitely how I got dude in the locker room, Rod,

960
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 4: would you mind telling us what happened after you beat

961
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 4: up your bully? Did you get in trouble? Did you

962
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 4: both get in trouble? What did your parents say?

963
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 2: Oh?

964
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 4: I forgot I didn't even finish the story. Yeah, So

965
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 4: I went to the office, I said, I just I

966
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 4: was like, I just been in the fight. I had

967
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 4: to find myself. I need you to call my parents.

968
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 4: And the dude was yelling, running towards the office, calling

969
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 4: y'all kinds of names and shit. So he kind of

970
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:46,319
Speaker 4: helped my case because yeah, they was like, okay, yep,

971
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 4: y'all both come in here. I explained exactly what happened.

972
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 4: They called my parents. They called his parents.

973
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 3: I believe that was when both my parents talked on

974
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:57,320
Speaker 3: the phone afterwards.

975
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 4: Or something like that, and basically his dad made it

976
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 4: playing to him to leave me the fuck alone, and

977
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 4: after that he didn't mess with me anymore.

978
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:08,360
Speaker 3: And the thing is, it had gone on for so

979
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:13,720
Speaker 3: long that you know, we both were never gonna be friends.

980
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 4: I don't think after that shit, But you know, we

981
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,359
Speaker 4: still went to the same school for like full five

982
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 4: more years, so eventually it was like we got to

983
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 4: the point.

984
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 3: Where, uh, we were cool enough, you know what I mean.

985
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 4: And I think in a weird way, it probably made

986
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:34,760
Speaker 4: him respect me on the level that he didn't because

987
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:36,879
Speaker 4: he was a white kid and I was in these

988
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 4: academically gifted classes and I was one of the few

989
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,439
Speaker 4: black kids in there, and I think he really thought

990
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 4: I was a certain type of black kid.

991
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 3: And I'm not trying to demean people that fall.

992
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 4: Into that certain type of blackness, because there's nothing wrong

993
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 4: with that at all. But I think he really thought

994
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 4: I was the kind of black kid that been raised

995
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 4: around white kids my whole life and should have been

996
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:00,799
Speaker 4: intimidating and scared because I was was this only black

997
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:04,320
Speaker 4: kid in this classroom with white people, and he just

998
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 4: had the wrong one. Like I grew up in a

999
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 4: neighborhood where it was mostly black kids. We fought at

1000
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 4: the bus stop, fought playing basketball, talk shit on the bus.

1001
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 4: Like it was just like it was kind of a

1002
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:19,319
Speaker 4: way of life without it being like gain violent type shit,

1003
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 4: but just as kids, you know, it's a little bit rough,

1004
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 4: and uh yeah.

1005
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:27,319
Speaker 3: To me, it was more like.

1006
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,880
Speaker 4: My parents had taught me not to be using fighting

1007
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 4: as a as a general response to just everything and

1008
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 4: to avoid shit, because you know, fights do escalate, and

1009
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:41,479
Speaker 4: especially you know at the time in the nineties, and shit,

1010
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 4: you know, you fight somebody, you get shot later on,

1011
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 4: or someone bring a gun to a basketball court or.

1012
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 3: Something like that.

1013
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 4: So like it was definitely not the situation where you

1014
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 4: need to go around just fighting as a way of life,

1015
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 4: because you know, you just never know the end results

1016
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 4: of violence.

1017
00:50:56,120 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 3: But you know, at the same time, they didn't raise

1018
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:00,840
Speaker 3: us to be.

1019
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 4: Victims who didn't fight back, like they didn't like, they

1020
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 4: didn't raise us to be on some light. Well just

1021
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 4: let them beat you up either, you know. So if

1022
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 4: someone put their hands on me, I have the right

1023
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 4: to defend myself. So, you know, I had to explain

1024
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:18,399
Speaker 4: it to my dad because my dad is very much

1025
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:21,840
Speaker 4: like a fucking detective, honey when it comes to like

1026
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 4: asking a million questions and all to follow up, and

1027
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 4: you get him multiple different ways of asking the same

1028
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 4: questions to see if you're lying or to see if

1029
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 4: you're gonna slip and be like and that's why I

1030
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 4: punched that nigga in the face first, you know.

1031
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 3: But I was telling the truth.

1032
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 4: And that was the other thing, Like, if the truth

1033
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 4: is on your side, then you don't have to lie

1034
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 4: and make shit up or twist anything.

1035
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 3: And I didn't have to make up anything.

1036
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:48,720
Speaker 4: Because that was the ship just lined up perfectly into

1037
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 4: me whooping his ass and not being in trouble.

1038
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 3: And that was it. My dad told me.

1039
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 4: A long time ago, actually, when I got kicked off

1040
00:51:57,840 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 4: the bus and I lied about it. He had told me,

1041
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 4: if you tell the truth, then I'm always have your back.

1042
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 4: But if you out here, you know, lying and shit,

1043
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 4: I can't trust you. So how can I basically go

1044
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 4: advocate for you at this school when you're telling me

1045
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 4: a version of the truth quote unquote as opposed to

1046
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 4: what actually happened, you know. So, Yeah, nothing happened to me.

1047
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 4: I didn't get suspended at all. I didn't get a warning,

1048
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 4: the teachers didn't say anything to me. A dude got

1049
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 4: his ass well and literally, I.

1050
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:31,879
Speaker 3: Mean, I was not in trouble at all. So but yeah,

1051
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:32,720
Speaker 3: appreciate you asking.

1052
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 4: V Jay writes in I just want to say that

1053
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 4: Karen's observations about the lottery, I mean about the battery

1054
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 4: power tooth brush our own point. I've used them and

1055
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 4: the vibrations are strong as hell. I've been told by

1056
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 4: my dinnists day I better at cleaning.

1057
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 3: Your teeth overall.

1058
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 4: Like you said as well, Rod, I also wanted to

1059
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 4: discuss white feminism and being objectified. Honestly, I used to

1060
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 4: consider myself a feminist until I learned about the racism

1061
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 4: within the group when and women were fighting for the

1062
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:03,799
Speaker 4: right to vote. I know a few women of color

1063
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 4: consider themselves women is for that exact reason. I'm a

1064
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 4: womanis who occasionally loves to be objectified. But like Karen said,

1065
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:11,720
Speaker 4: you can look at my titties and ass or don't.

1066
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 3: Disrespect me right.

1067
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 4: Also for the douche Bag podcast to forget his name,

1068
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 4: that seriously is a shitty thing for him to do

1069
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:20,800
Speaker 4: to women and then try to align himself with feminism.

1070
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 3: Fuck out of here. You're a wolf in sheet's clothing.

1071
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 4: And also I never got to tell you guys that

1072
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:28,439
Speaker 4: even though the LGBTCK news is almost always bad news,

1073
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 4: I dance when the music comes on while I imagine

1074
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 4: myself in a cool seventies disco as a member of

1075
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 4: the community. I appreciate that you guys speak out on

1076
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 4: these issues. All of my fast to hearts.

1077
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 5: Thank you, oh, thank you.

1078
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:43,959
Speaker 2: What I imagine myself even though I can't roller skate

1079
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 2: that well, I imagine and some roller skates and some

1080
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 2: long socks up to my knees and some shorts just

1081
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 2: skating around.

1082
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 5: Mm hm uh.

1083
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:59,320
Speaker 3: You know it's funny too. With the I think people don't.

1084
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:05,880
Speaker 4: Get that when it comes to like that podcaster and

1085
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:08,359
Speaker 4: he wants to be like kind of a womanizer out there,

1086
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:11,360
Speaker 4: it's sounded like he had talked himself into a whole

1087
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 4: because that really wasn't his life or the life he led.

1088
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 3: But not even low key hockey. There's a lot of

1089
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 3: women that.

1090
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:22,319
Speaker 4: Deal with men that basically be like, I treat women

1091
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:24,959
Speaker 4: like shit. There's some women that just don't give a fuck,

1092
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 4: and like, if that was the case, you don't have

1093
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 4: to lie. I don't even know why people make that

1094
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 4: their live because it's just so like you can like

1095
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 4: he could have been like, listen, I like and want women,

1096
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:41,359
Speaker 4: and I'm for equality to a certain extent, but I'm

1097
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:43,399
Speaker 4: not perfect, and yes I'm out here trying to fuck

1098
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 4: these women. And you know what, there's a lot of

1099
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:48,320
Speaker 4: women that be like I can deal with that, you

1100
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 4: know what I mean, not like like rather than like

1101
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:53,760
Speaker 4: I'm gonna trick them into thinking I'm the wokest another fucker.

1102
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 3: On the planet and get into their draws.

1103
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 4: Like, there's a lot of women that are would not

1104
00:54:57,719 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 4: feel a sense of betrayal from a dude that's like,

1105
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 4: hey man, I'm just trying to work it out like, y'all,

1106
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 4: I'm not perfect. I don't know everything, and I can't

1107
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 4: always see it from your point of view, but I'm

1108
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 4: definitely trying to get in them draws.

1109
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 3: And there's a lot of people that are like close enough, right,

1110
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 3: you know what I mean?

1111
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 2: And that's the thing getting people the option just be like, hey,

1112
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 2: this is what it is, and people that's why a

1113
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:21,240
Speaker 2: lot of people are just amazed.

1114
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 5: Well he telling you he ain't shit, Bill, A lot

1115
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:25,279
Speaker 5: of them go here being truthful. Man, I'm down for

1116
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 5: the call.

1117
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's somebody out here fucking every problematic person on

1118
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 4: the planet, like everybody that just says some fuck shit

1119
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 4: that we're all like, I can't believe people even like him.

1120
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:37,799
Speaker 4: It's somebody that's like, at least he honest, and they

1121
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 4: pulling them draws down, Like it's so weird to use

1122
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 4: that as the hustle. But I think that's how some

1123
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 4: people see the world, is like this is my hustle

1124
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 4: and and this is my way in. But it's like,

1125
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:53,880
Speaker 4: you can't live that falsehood forever, man, You eventually you

1126
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:57,399
Speaker 4: will get exposed, especially in a day and age. Well,

1127
00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 4: motherfucker's got screenshots, there's digital records, of every interaction.

1128
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:06,839
Speaker 3: You had with people. The dms and shit don't ever

1129
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:07,319
Speaker 3: go away.

1130
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 5: You can't.

1131
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 4: You can delete a tweet and somebody still got it

1132
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 4: in the Library of Congress. Like, I don't understand how

1133
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 4: people try to keep playing these games.

1134
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 3: In this day and age, like you will get caught.

1135
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:22,400
Speaker 3: Why not just keep it real? But that could just

1136
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:27,839
Speaker 3: be me. And lastly, deser Re says, so two things

1137
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:28,720
Speaker 3: about this episode.

1138
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 4: First, I'd like to thank you y'all for talking about

1139
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 4: the Jamie dude. During the election, I started listening to

1140
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 4: a bunch of different podcasts. Keep Up with the Orange

1141
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 4: was bullshit. Citizen Radio was one of them.

1142
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 3: I liked it, okay.

1143
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:41,319
Speaker 4: They talked about things important to me, so I listened

1144
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:44,240
Speaker 4: longer than I would have than if I just started

1145
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 4: listening for entertainment and not due the election. A few

1146
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:49,799
Speaker 4: episodes in I realized that I needed to and did

1147
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 4: skip the first twenty minutes of every episode because it

1148
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 4: was just Jamie talking about himself. First Red Flag, and

1149
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:58,320
Speaker 4: even after that initial twenty I was bothered by Jamie

1150
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 4: always interpreted Allison, usually to I mean interrupted Allison, usually

1151
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 4: to talk about himself and the fact that they were

1152
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 4: two sys straight white people who really cared about minorities,

1153
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 4: not just enough to have them, but just not enough

1154
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 4: to have them on this guest to this show.

1155
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 5: Come on you for the same thing. I look at

1156
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 5: Young Turt side ways. Yeah, I mean they do get black.

1157
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 2: People on air, but not enough for all the shit

1158
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 2: they talk about. You need to have more brown people

1159
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 2: like these people you advocate for. Have them talk on

1160
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 2: your platform.

1161
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 5: They got voices too, and they can speak for themselves.

1162
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you do when they disagree?

1163
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 5: Right, they don't want to bring you on the show, then,

1164
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 5: like if the.

1165
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 4: Only time you roll over to your black producer to

1166
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 4: get them on the mic is when you're about to

1167
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 4: say some fucked up shit that racially so they can go,

1168
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 4: you got a point, you know, that's not really having

1169
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:47,919
Speaker 4: a black voice on your show.

1170
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 3: But you know whatever, I remember during the.

1171
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 4: Net Roots that protest, the Young Turkts had that black

1172
00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 4: dude who's like a producer, and it was like he

1173
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 4: was just there for the co sign, you know, like

1174
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 4: like yeah, like yeah, like that dude is there to

1175
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 4: get a check too. It's like if you just rolled

1176
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 4: over to your a lot of us, if you at

1177
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 4: work in your cubicle and your boss rolled up and said,

1178
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 4: what do you think about blank? They might not get

1179
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 4: the opinion that is the most inflammatory, honest opinion that

1180
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 4: you have. You might give the opinion of I want

1181
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 4: to keep working here tomorrow and I need a check.

1182
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 4: So that's kind of how his answer sounding. Now maybe

1183
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 4: that's his genuine opinion, but it also is like it

1184
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 4: feels like you're just going to the outsourcing the black

1185
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 4: friend cosign on this, which, yeah, it's interesting, you know,

1186
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 4: and it's not like black people are.

1187
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 3: Some small group of you know, when it comes to.

1188
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 4: Liberals and democratic politics, like you could definitely have somebody

1189
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 4: on that, you know, that can speak on these things.

1190
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 3: All right. I quit listening well before the election was over.

1191
00:58:57,840 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 4: After y'all talked about it, I figured I'll listen to

1192
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 4: the show in a surprise prize. The first episode I

1193
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 4: listened to happened to have Keisha Zola and they were

1194
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 4: talking about Mike Brown. Now I'm not saying y'all single

1195
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 4: handley fixed that podcast, but I'm not not saying it either.

1196
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 4: I can't take credit for that. I can't take credit

1197
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 4: for anybody else's podcast. But that's dope, if you know,

1198
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 4: you know, especially and that's another thing if if it's

1199
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 4: now Allison's podcast Allison kill Kenny, I would not be

1200
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:32,920
Speaker 4: shocked if they got more guested on and guests of

1201
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 4: different perspectives, because one, I think women are just by nature.

1202
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 3: More intersectional than the men in general.

1203
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 4: Forced to be right, right, but but still it's I

1204
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 4: think it's improves your product. And then two, I think

1205
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 4: I wouldn't be shocked if you want to make an effort,

1206
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 4: you know, in a way that you might not have.

1207
00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 4: And I think people don't want to give up or

1208
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 4: get off of their platform, which which I understand. If

1209
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 4: you built a platform, it is yours first. It is

1210
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:09,720
Speaker 4: not for the world, and if it fails or succeeds,

1211
01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 4: that firstly is going to go on you, which I

1212
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 4: completely understand as a person, as two people that have

1213
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 4: a platform, completely understand the idea of like the people

1214
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:22,280
Speaker 4: are here from my thoughts and opinions. But at the

1215
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 4: same time, if you do have guests and that is

1216
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 4: a thing that you do, it, I guess it is

1217
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:30,919
Speaker 4: telling if you're just like, we're never gonna have black

1218
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 4: people want to discuss this shit, or you know whatever.

1219
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 4: You know, Although I like I said, they do a

1220
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 4: completely different type of show, like they do a political

1221
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 4: show specifically about that shit. You know, I understand like

1222
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 4: if I listen like a comedy podcast and you know,

1223
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:50,920
Speaker 4: they've only just they just have on fucking comedians, or

1224
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 4: if I listen to, uh, for example, if I listen

1225
01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 4: to a sports show and they just have fucking dude,

1226
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 4: bro and shit, I understand, like they're not trying to

1227
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:05,280
Speaker 4: be the intersection on woke and all that shit. But

1228
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 4: I think if your political podcast is about having all

1229
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:14,240
Speaker 4: these different perspectives and just nobody ever happens to be

1230
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 4: on to give that perspective, or you don't reading things

1231
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 4: from that perspective, or you're not helping spread the word

1232
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 4: for people from that perspective, it does seem a.

1233
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:24,680
Speaker 3: Bit weird, you know, and exclusionary.

1234
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 4: But at the same time, like I said, it could

1235
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 4: just be that they weren't comfortable with that, or maybe

1236
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 4: just the ones you listened to, maybe they just didn't

1237
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 4: the ones you heard, they didn't have them on there

1238
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:39,160
Speaker 4: or whatever. But I think that shit does help with

1239
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 4: blind spots and stuff. Having people in your community and

1240
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:43,920
Speaker 4: your fans and stuff they can kind of write in

1241
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 4: the help because there were so many white podcasts I

1242
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:51,520
Speaker 4: can't listen to on politics because I remember listening to

1243
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:53,920
Speaker 4: them take Trump as a joke, right, you know.

1244
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:55,720
Speaker 3: I still remember the first and.

1245
01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 4: Only episode of Abe Lincoln's Top Hat I listened to,

1246
01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:01,560
Speaker 4: where they were shit, you know, Hillary Clinton and talking

1247
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:03,120
Speaker 4: about how interesting it would be to sit in the

1248
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 4: room with Donald Trump, and I thought, this is and

1249
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 4: they were supposed to be this liberal podcast.

1250
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 3: Was like, this is why the fuck he's gonna win,

1251
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 3: you know what I mean?

1252
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:12,800
Speaker 4: And that shit was like March of last year, and

1253
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:15,280
Speaker 4: I was like, man, white people just are not ready

1254
01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaker 4: to fight this on any level.

1255
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:19,080
Speaker 5: Like he's.

1256
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, it has to get to an emergency status before.

1257
01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:25,200
Speaker 2: They can do that, right, And it's always an emergency

1258
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 2: for black people, brown people and minorities and you know,

1259
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:32,440
Speaker 2: and women. It's always actually an emergency for us, but

1260
01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:33,600
Speaker 2: particularly white males.

1261
01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:34,960
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1262
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:36,919
Speaker 4: And also I do think it is a fine line

1263
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:39,680
Speaker 4: that's very difficult between you having guests on to like

1264
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 4: explain their humanity and shit, because I hate, I fucking

1265
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 4: hate when shows are like, let's have a black person

1266
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 4: known because some racists happened. Hey, black person that we

1267
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:52,800
Speaker 4: never call any other time, can you explain to us

1268
01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 4: why andre Igodalad can't say the N word, you know. Like,

1269
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:59,240
Speaker 4: so I understand the reluctant sometimes to be put people

1270
01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:00,280
Speaker 4: in an awkward position.

1271
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 2: But you know, right, and some black people that go

1272
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 2: to be like, no, I am not here to explain

1273
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 2: my humanity on this show, right, Really calling me to

1274
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:11,680
Speaker 2: have a real nuanced conversation or get about some shit

1275
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:13,439
Speaker 2: I'm doing, don't waste my goddamn time.

1276
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:15,160
Speaker 4: But I don't want to be a Black Lives Matter

1277
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:18,200
Speaker 4: correspondent on y'all show, like I just to put my

1278
01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:18,919
Speaker 4: face on TV.

1279
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:19,120
Speaker 2: No.

1280
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can totally understand that as well. So I

1281
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:22,680
Speaker 3: don't know.

1282
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:25,120
Speaker 4: But like I said, I don't really listen to that show,

1283
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 4: so I'm not trying to shit on that show, to

1284
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 4: be honest. But if losing a host ends up helping

1285
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 4: them out because they get a whole bunch of different

1286
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:34,080
Speaker 4: perspectives and stuff, that's dope.

1287
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 5: Man.

1288
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:36,880
Speaker 4: When him that was sick on Keith and the girl

1289
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:41,160
Speaker 4: got introduced to so many different voices that I probably

1290
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 4: wouldn't have heard, so many different perspectives and stuff that

1291
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:48,480
Speaker 4: I wouldn't heard, and they keep it, and they kept

1292
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:52,280
Speaker 4: it going even when she returned, and that that's beautiful.

1293
01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:52,480
Speaker 5: Man.

1294
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:55,240
Speaker 4: That's it's difficult to do all this booking and ship,

1295
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:59,880
Speaker 4: especially when you're working for yourself. But yeah, that's always

1296
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:03,360
Speaker 4: that's always dope. So good good for them, And I

1297
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 4: hope that podcast conteens to do well, man. And I'm

1298
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Speaker 4: sure that Jamie Dude will be back in some way

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Speaker 4: shape form, you know, at some point, so we'll see

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Speaker 4: what happens in I mean' I don't know if he'll

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Speaker 4: be back on the show, but you know, he ain't

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Speaker 4: gonna just disappear. Yeah, he gotta make money somehow. Second

1303
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Speaker 4: and final thing, finally, fighting the fuck back. Well, I

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Speaker 4: was certainly certainly aware of my place in the social hierarchy.

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't consider myself bullied in school, with a few exceptions,

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Speaker 4: the biggest being the time this girl in seventh grade

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Speaker 4: kept talking ship to me in class when we had

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Speaker 4: a sub I was a good girl and did not

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Speaker 4: want did what I was taught.

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Speaker 3: I ignored her. That didn't deter her. She actually seemed

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Speaker 3: to be to feed on it.

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Speaker 4: She kept talking and saying how pathetic I was to

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Speaker 4: not uh say anything back. With a few girls egging

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Speaker 4: her own She finally just walked over to where I

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Speaker 4: was sitting and slapped me across the face. Out of instinct,

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Speaker 4: I kicked in the stomach immediately. Suddenly the sub noticed me.

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Speaker 4: Sub noticed something going on. Apparently the bitch had noticed

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Speaker 4: a girl standing up talking shit to a student who

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Speaker 4: was trying to do her work.

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Speaker 3: The whole damn class.

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Speaker 4: We both got sent to the principal and the girl

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Speaker 4: who was messing with me got suspended. She had a

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Speaker 4: long track record of bad behavior, and I got a

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Speaker 4: Saturday detention.

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Speaker 3: That's the worst.

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Speaker 4: I wanted to know why I was in trouble at all.

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Speaker 4: Was I just supposed to let her hit me? Zero

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Speaker 4: tolerance is the only ass I got. Yeah, zero tolerance

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Speaker 4: is really for people to take the work out of

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Speaker 4: being a.

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Speaker 3: Enforcer.

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Speaker 2: I fucking hate zero tolerance policies. They're fucking lazy. They're

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Speaker 2: lazy because you don't want to look and investigate and

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Speaker 2: use judgment.

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Speaker 5: And nuance and shit like that.

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Speaker 2: And most of the time, zero tolerance policies across the

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Speaker 2: board affect Brown people more than any other group because

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Speaker 2: we never get the benefit of the doubt and we

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Speaker 2: have zero tollerance policies that's just an excuse to us

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Speaker 2: wipe across the board, because even with these zero tolerance policies,

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Speaker 2: times you have white children that I accuse a lot

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01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:05,080
Speaker 2: of this shit, but they find ways sometimes off the

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01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:07,920
Speaker 2: book or give a warning of some shit. But but you,

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Speaker 2: that's what a zero taller's positive kicks me in. It's

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Speaker 2: still not zero tolerance across the board.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 4: The lesson I learned none from the fucking school. They

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01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:19,240
Speaker 4: didn't do shit to help me, just punish me for

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Speaker 4: finally fighting back life. Lesson the girl never fuck with

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Speaker 4: me again. I never had anyone hitting me with a

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Speaker 4: hair brush on the bus again. I generally didn't get

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01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:28,520
Speaker 4: fucked with in school again, all because I finally fall back.

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Speaker 4: Ignoring bullies doesn't work, but kicking the asshole who slaps

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Speaker 4: you just might.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 4: And the pole was simple, have you ever fought a bully?

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Speaker 4: And the answers were yes, no, and I've never been bullied.

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Speaker 4: Five percent of people never been bullied.

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Speaker 5: Good for you, baby, that mean.

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Speaker 3: You was the bully son of a bitch. Y'all not slick.

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Speaker 3: Twenty six percent say no and sixty nine percent say yes.

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Speaker 4: Uh they fall back mad sanity says when I was

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Speaker 4: in elementary school, we had those tired things football players

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Speaker 4: used to do.

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Speaker 3: Oh wait, okay, so this is the one. Cool, we

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01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:04,440
Speaker 3: already read that.

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Speaker 4: All right, let's go to the next episode fourteen oh two,

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Speaker 4: save your emails.

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Speaker 3: This is the one we had to be like, all right,

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Speaker 3: stop writing then with y'all.

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Speaker 4: But let me explain to you what trans people really

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01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:18,240
Speaker 4: are going through, even though I'm not and I have

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Speaker 4: no reason to believe us.

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Speaker 3: Right, all right, so.

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Speaker 4: Black Underscore Dante Conflucius, Jeremy right saying, oh wait, no,

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry. Noir Dynamite right saying, dear Canon Rode, people

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Speaker 4: emailing y'all about stuff y'all said, not to email y'all.

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Speaker 3: About it as annoying as fuck. I agree. That's some

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01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:37,120
Speaker 3: challenges behavior right there.

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Speaker 4: You two work too hard for people to know your

1382
01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:42,600
Speaker 4: simple requests just because they gotta get their comment, saying, uh,

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01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:45,280
Speaker 4: it's not even like you two talked about something difficult

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01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:48,919
Speaker 4: to understand. When discussing Chimamanda, the overatching point let trans

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01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:51,720
Speaker 4: womens tell their own stories. What's that to discuss these

1386
01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:54,920
Speaker 4: types the type of individuals who have to get his

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01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:57,840
Speaker 4: slash her opinion out there, regardless of how it will

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Speaker 4: be received or some of the worst people online are

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Speaker 4: real life.

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Speaker 3: I'm going on and on about this, but it arks

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01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:02,880
Speaker 3: me so much.

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Speaker 4: Y'all shouldn't have to sift through that this shit when

1393
01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:08,320
Speaker 4: you're constantly providing us with a safe place to frequent

1394
01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:11,440
Speaker 4: and high quality content to get through these trying times.

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Speaker 4: To revisit the quote y'all have mentioned, silence is free.

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01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:16,680
Speaker 4: Some of those people who wrote there and need to

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01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:18,599
Speaker 4: take advantage of the free cost of silence.

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Speaker 3: Thank y'all for being y'all. Love y'all.

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Speaker 4: Jerious aka d n I be that nigga in Beijing,

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Speaker 4: Thanks man, thank you, and uh yeah, man, I mean,

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01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:31,200
Speaker 4: we like to have people write in with feedback and shit,

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01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:33,160
Speaker 4: but some of this shit is just not up for debate, man.

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01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:34,519
Speaker 3: You know, I member.

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Speaker 4: We used to when we first started kind of talking

1405
01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:40,240
Speaker 4: about social issues a bunch of years back, you know,

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01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:45,439
Speaker 4: we talk about how like stupid homophobia was, and we

1407
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:47,160
Speaker 4: used to get people that were writing call in and

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01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:49,080
Speaker 4: be like, but what about this and what about that?

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01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:51,439
Speaker 3: And it's like, dog, I'm.

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Speaker 4: Never going to be like and in this case, homophobia

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01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:56,800
Speaker 4: is okay, So what the fuck was the point of

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01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 4: all that shit. I don't care about your religion and

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01:08:59,320 --> 01:09:01,720
Speaker 4: your and and all that shit. None of that makes

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01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:02,360
Speaker 4: it okay.

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Speaker 3: To me, you know. But I think you know, this

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01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:09,599
Speaker 3: is like a new and a lot of people's point

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Speaker 3: of view.

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Speaker 4: It's like a new idea to play with academically and

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01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:19,640
Speaker 4: not actually viewing people as humans. So yeah, Jeremy right

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01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:21,519
Speaker 4: saying if I may share a story, I'll try to

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01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:23,200
Speaker 4: make it quick. A couple of years ago, I followed

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01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:25,200
Speaker 4: the CIS had black woman who was a feminist. She

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01:09:25,360 --> 01:09:27,200
Speaker 4: was having a conversation with a white trans woman. It

1424
01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:29,639
Speaker 4: was a conversation about womanhood, or which the CIS woman said,

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01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:32,240
Speaker 4: she's an eyeline supports trans woman, but that trans women

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Speaker 4: aren't fully women because they can't do some things that

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01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:38,280
Speaker 4: CIS women can, like give birth or have periods. Mind you,

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01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:41,080
Speaker 4: not all CIS gender women can't do those things either.

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Speaker 4: She basically said that a trans woman is three fits

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Speaker 4: of a full woman. And if that wasn't bad enough,

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Speaker 4: she told the trans woman that she had no right

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Speaker 4: to be offended at her not respecting her as a

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Speaker 4: full woman. Mind you, you just said another woman's humanity

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01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:56,519
Speaker 4: is invalid, But the trans woman had no right to

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Speaker 4: be offended the fuck. Even before I became aware of knowledge,

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01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:02,360
Speaker 4: boy as eye Now, I was just thinking in my mind, damn,

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01:10:02,439 --> 01:10:05,120
Speaker 4: that is fucked up. And the trans woman was heartbroken

1438
01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:07,640
Speaker 4: because this was coming from someone she thought was for

1439
01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:10,040
Speaker 4: her humanity. That's how I see a lot of cys

1440
01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:13,960
Speaker 4: quote unquote allies phil via their privileged attitudes whenever transgender

1441
01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:14,800
Speaker 4: issues are brought up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it just goes up the chain. But yeah, absolutely,

1443
01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:19,880
Speaker 3: you know, and I don't know.

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Speaker 4: What's gotta It's gotta be hurtful for a lot, just

1445
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:25,240
Speaker 4: like it's gotta be hurtful for black women that are

1446
01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:27,880
Speaker 4: feminists when you see white women that are feminists but

1447
01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:31,479
Speaker 4: then turn out to be kind of racist, especially if

1448
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:34,320
Speaker 4: you grew up with like oh that's my icon or oh.

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Speaker 3: Yeah I really oh I like I like her. She

1450
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:38,000
Speaker 3: seemed like a cool person.

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Speaker 4: Then they just had that moment where you're like, oh,

1452
01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:44,200
Speaker 4: they don't really fuck with me though, which sucks.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 4: So I can't imagine, And yeah, I've seen that. I

1455
01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:50,559
Speaker 4: remember I saw a dude maybe a couple of weeks

1456
01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:53,679
Speaker 4: ago he got into it with There was a gay

1457
01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:58,840
Speaker 4: white dude that caught him the N word. So then

1458
01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:03,519
Speaker 4: his response as a called a gay white dude a

1459
01:11:03,640 --> 01:11:09,559
Speaker 4: faggot on Twitter, and so then with all the people

1460
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Speaker 4: that were like hit the black dudes, friends and whatever

1461
01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:16,400
Speaker 4: were like, hey man, that's homophobic and you shouldn't do that.

1462
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Speaker 4: And he's like, oh, so he could just call me

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Speaker 4: a nigga. It's like, no, that's not what we're saying.

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Speaker 4: He's fucked up too, But at some point you crossed

1465
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:28,280
Speaker 4: the line. And what's the lesson I'm supposed to learn.

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01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:32,320
Speaker 4: If I'm your friend and I'm gay, it's the lesson here. Yeah,

1467
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:35,000
Speaker 4: we cool as long as we don't disagree. And then

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Speaker 4: I'm back to being called these names. This is how

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01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:39,479
Speaker 4: you really feel about me, but under the name of

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01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:42,360
Speaker 4: quote unquote tolerance, you just hold back but secretly just

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Speaker 4: how you really feel.

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Speaker 3: About all gay people.

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Speaker 4: And he just went on and on about being a

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Speaker 4: real victim and everybody's two PC and all this shit

1475
01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:54,080
Speaker 4: and always won't talk your shit right right, And that's

1476
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Speaker 4: kind of how I think some of this shit comes off,

1477
01:11:56,439 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 4: where people are like, I'm the real victim here because

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01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:03,519
Speaker 4: I can't basically talk for you because people are saying, look,

1479
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Speaker 4: that's not my experience and what you're saying is wrong.

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01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:08,160
Speaker 4: And they're like, no, now see, you guys, this is

1481
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Speaker 4: where I draw the line, and this is why I

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01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:12,040
Speaker 4: can't see you know that kind of shit anyway.

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Speaker 3: But mal seventy three said, it seems pretty simple to me.

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Speaker 4: When I first saw Tima Amanda's comments, I thought they

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Speaker 4: sounded reasonable until I saw what the trans women I

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Speaker 4: follow on Twitter were saying. These are the people who

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Speaker 4: live that life, and if they say those comments are

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01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:27,719
Speaker 4: unreasonable and hurtful, it's a rap. The comments aren't reasonable

1489
01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:30,360
Speaker 4: and hurtful. No debate necessary, especially for people of color

1490
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Speaker 4: who have to deal with others in validating not concerns

1491
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Speaker 4: about racist shit daily.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I guess that's the other thing, because the way I

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Speaker 4: see the world, I just see like parallels and shit

1495
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Speaker 4: like that. So I'm just like, well, that feels the

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Speaker 4: way that it feels when we say, you know, like

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Speaker 4: when white people say shit like, well, you know, in

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Speaker 4: the inner city, these black kids are killing each other

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Speaker 4: and that's why they need law and order, and all

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Speaker 4: these black people speak up and say that's not.

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Speaker 3: Our experience and that's not true.

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Speaker 4: Like what you're saying is going to harm people and

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Speaker 4: you don't know our lives, like, and they're like, shut

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01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:09,160
Speaker 4: the fuck up. These black people don't know what they're

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01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:11,680
Speaker 4: talking about. Just keep talking over them and saying this

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Speaker 4: is what they're experiencing.

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Speaker 3: It feels a bit like that, you know. Now, I

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01:13:15,439 --> 01:13:17,120
Speaker 3: can't say it's a one to one thing.

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Speaker 4: Obviously, but it feels a lot like when white people

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Speaker 4: just keep having this discussion over the voices of black

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Speaker 4: people that are already telling you, like, no, let me

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Speaker 4: speak for myself. So I don't know, it seems more

1513
01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:33,000
Speaker 4: simple to like, I know those cases. I wish people

1514
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:34,800
Speaker 4: would just go to black voices and let them speak

1515
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:37,680
Speaker 4: for themselves. I feel like that's what should happen here too.

1516
01:13:38,520 --> 01:13:40,800
Speaker 4: Upon further reflection of the comments, I realized I should

1517
01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:42,680
Speaker 4: have seen them for the bullshit that they are at

1518
01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:44,800
Speaker 4: a home in high school who is very effeminate. Please

1519
01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:46,360
Speaker 4: note that I'm not applying this is the same as

1520
01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:49,120
Speaker 4: being transd This is back in Jamaica, which as we

1521
01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:51,880
Speaker 4: all know, is extremely homophobic. Any male privilege he enjoyed

1522
01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:54,000
Speaker 4: was undercut by how he was treated by other boys.

1523
01:13:54,400 --> 01:13:57,240
Speaker 4: This notion that you can just use the Wakowskis and

1524
01:13:57,400 --> 01:14:00,840
Speaker 4: Caitlyn Jenner as representatives of the typical trans experience. It's

1525
01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:04,160
Speaker 4: like saying Jaden and Willow Smith have the typical black experience. Yeah,

1526
01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:06,479
Speaker 4: it's a black experience, but it's not a typical one.

1527
01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:08,840
Speaker 4: I love her, but she fucked up. She has this

1528
01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:11,000
Speaker 4: blind spot and showed it, and I would hope she

1529
01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:13,760
Speaker 4: recognizes it and comes around. Sadly, trans people simply can't

1530
01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:17,000
Speaker 4: afford to wait around and hope people evolved someday. Every

1531
01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:19,519
Speaker 4: day there's some seems to be news of a story

1532
01:14:19,560 --> 01:14:22,519
Speaker 4: of transferm and being murdered, then misgendered and death. It

1533
01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:24,760
Speaker 4: may be academic for me, but it's life and death

1534
01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:27,000
Speaker 4: for them. Till my man, that definitely gets in. It's

1535
01:14:27,080 --> 01:14:28,519
Speaker 4: not me, it's you for this week.

1536
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:33,479
Speaker 3: Keep doing your thing. Yeah, Like it's sad that it's

1537
01:14:36,439 --> 01:14:37,200
Speaker 3: it's just a fact.

1538
01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:39,000
Speaker 4: I really think for a lot of people, it's just

1539
01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:42,519
Speaker 4: the fact that she's they fave, right. It's sad that

1540
01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:44,840
Speaker 4: that's all it takes for people. But that was like

1541
01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:46,880
Speaker 4: a recurrent theme last week for me. It was just

1542
01:14:47,439 --> 01:14:50,840
Speaker 4: realizing how many people just when it's day fave, all

1543
01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:52,719
Speaker 4: the shit just goes out the window. It just don't

1544
01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:57,679
Speaker 4: matter which is you know which is unfortunate. Man already

1545
01:14:57,680 --> 01:15:01,920
Speaker 4: says Yah, Karen, I'm still here for your beauty supply store.

1546
01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:05,719
Speaker 4: Rant thread read the story in Charlotte is absolutely ridiculous

1547
01:15:05,760 --> 01:15:09,559
Speaker 4: and completely unnecessary. Yeah, that was a stop owner agent

1548
01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:11,920
Speaker 4: stop owner that put literally put a black woman in

1549
01:15:11,960 --> 01:15:13,960
Speaker 4: the choke hold over five hours of nine nine cents

1550
01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:14,800
Speaker 4: with her eyelashes.

1551
01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:17,599
Speaker 3: He claims she stole, which there's no proof of her stealing.

1552
01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:22,200
Speaker 4: He had no right to jump on that woman like that,

1553
01:15:22,439 --> 01:15:24,200
Speaker 4: and now that he's been caught, he wants to act

1554
01:15:24,280 --> 01:15:28,240
Speaker 4: remorseful and apologetic. Everything you described exactly what I have experienced,

1555
01:15:28,240 --> 01:15:31,519
Speaker 4: from taller cash registers, to mirrors everywhere, to being monitored

1556
01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:33,800
Speaker 4: by the employees even though I have shopped there for years.

1557
01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:37,800
Speaker 4: Tackling someone over some eyelashes as wild as fuck. I

1558
01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:41,000
Speaker 4: hope his business suffers and that they closed that motherfucker down.

1559
01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:45,679
Speaker 4: In the words of Karen, fuck you see Chance says

1560
01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:49,320
Speaker 4: I should not have to explain my humanity caring. That

1561
01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:52,759
Speaker 4: was the truest, most deep, coldest shit I've heard in forever.

1562
01:15:53,320 --> 01:15:55,080
Speaker 4: I've been listening trying to think of a comment that

1563
01:15:55,120 --> 01:15:58,479
Speaker 4: would elstit your good deep fried Southern Country ass last

1564
01:15:59,040 --> 01:15:59,360
Speaker 4: or at.

1565
01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:01,479
Speaker 3: Least get the sea. Yes, I sound and I'm hoping

1566
01:16:01,560 --> 01:16:04,120
Speaker 3: for it, but no jokes, no puns. That quote along.

1567
01:16:04,280 --> 01:16:07,400
Speaker 4: God damn y'all keep doing your thing, Rod, I want

1568
01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:11,080
Speaker 4: in on the Facebook group all bullshit decide.

1569
01:16:11,120 --> 01:16:12,680
Speaker 3: You guys get me through my work day.

1570
01:16:12,760 --> 01:16:15,439
Speaker 4: I'm tired of explaining to my coworkers who voted for

1571
01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:18,040
Speaker 4: forty five why deleted them and otherwise don't fuck with

1572
01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:20,360
Speaker 4: them anymore, And judging from the feedback show.

1573
01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:22,519
Speaker 3: It's obvious I'm not alone. It does my hard good.

1574
01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:25,280
Speaker 3: How you too have touched people's lives all over the

1575
01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:29,400
Speaker 3: globe and y'all are from NC. Thanks, thank you. Brooklyn

1576
01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:31,599
Speaker 3: shoe Ba says, I really appreciate your discussions.

1577
01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:33,360
Speaker 4: I'm a forty four year old woman, and growing up,

1578
01:16:33,400 --> 01:16:36,679
Speaker 4: we just didn't discuss gays, lesbians or transgender people.

1579
01:16:37,120 --> 01:16:39,880
Speaker 3: Hell, I don't think I really heard proper terminology until

1580
01:16:39,880 --> 01:16:40,920
Speaker 3: I was in my late teens.

1581
01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:43,880
Speaker 4: Like you said, Rod, trans people always existed, but people

1582
01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:46,920
Speaker 4: call them different things, like he, she or lady boy.

1583
01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:50,439
Speaker 4: It wasn't until I got to college that my eyes

1584
01:16:50,479 --> 01:16:52,800
Speaker 4: really got open. I went to NYU, which is a

1585
01:16:52,840 --> 01:16:55,639
Speaker 4: liberal university in the Gate Center of New York. Plus,

1586
01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:58,080
Speaker 4: I took a couple of sexuality and gender courses in

1587
01:16:58,160 --> 01:16:58,680
Speaker 4: college in the.

1588
01:16:58,720 --> 01:16:59,880
Speaker 3: Very early nineteen nineties.

1589
01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:03,200
Speaker 4: Over the years, I've learned from reading books, watching documentaries,

1590
01:17:03,240 --> 01:17:05,600
Speaker 4: and just asking questions. I want to learn and know

1591
01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:08,920
Speaker 4: because I don't want to offend anyone out of accidental ignorance.

1592
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:12,759
Speaker 4: The world's changing and I want to be equipped. Yeah, essentially,

1593
01:17:13,200 --> 01:17:15,000
Speaker 4: I mean it's that simple for me. Man, I just

1594
01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:18,519
Speaker 4: would like, I don't want to be any more harmful

1595
01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:21,880
Speaker 4: than I'm just gonna be naturally anyway. You know, if

1596
01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:24,559
Speaker 4: you can learn to do something better or learn about

1597
01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:26,839
Speaker 4: a concept, I don't see why it's so fucking threatening,

1598
01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:28,240
Speaker 4: you know, but people feel.

1599
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:32,960
Speaker 3: Very threatened. My just this idea that something would be different,

1600
01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:33,280
Speaker 3: you know.

1601
01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:37,240
Speaker 4: Evee says, I was surprised people were debating on whether

1602
01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:39,200
Speaker 4: the woman in the video was the nanny or the wife.

1603
01:17:39,280 --> 01:17:42,400
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that video with the guy interview for the BBC.

1604
01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:45,080
Speaker 4: I was too busy laughing at how bold that little

1605
01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:48,280
Speaker 4: girl was, so she busting the room, tworking strange. I

1606
01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:50,760
Speaker 4: guess I'm not oblive. I guess I'm just oblivious to

1607
01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:53,679
Speaker 4: this stuff. As far as the Korean shop owner shopping

1608
01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:55,080
Speaker 4: in Korean hairshops was one of.

1609
01:17:55,080 --> 01:17:56,400
Speaker 3: The many reasons I went natural.

1610
01:17:57,000 --> 01:17:59,320
Speaker 4: I want I worked too hard for my money to

1611
01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:01,800
Speaker 4: spend in a place I get treated like dirt. I

1612
01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:04,120
Speaker 4: hope they have to close shop, but that what will

1613
01:18:04,160 --> 01:18:06,360
Speaker 4: probably happen is that they'll close that shop and open

1614
01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:07,840
Speaker 4: it elsewhere under another name.

1615
01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:10,559
Speaker 3: And hope people don't remember. I hope the local.

1616
01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:13,320
Speaker 4: Stay diligent in getting those racist ass store owners out

1617
01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:15,439
Speaker 4: of the mix, because they do not need to be

1618
01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:16,639
Speaker 4: serving the community.

1619
01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:19,680
Speaker 3: They could have killed her. I feel equally fucked with that.

1620
01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:23,760
Speaker 3: He wasn't charged for a crime. He assaught right, he's assaulted.

1621
01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:26,439
Speaker 4: That and it turns out that she didn't steal anything.

1622
01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:30,760
Speaker 4: Fuck them, support black own hair businesses, Like I said,

1623
01:18:30,760 --> 01:18:33,800
Speaker 4: they wonder why the curl kit popping man like I

1624
01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:35,720
Speaker 4: ain't gotta worry about these I could just see me

1625
01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:37,679
Speaker 4: some products, and I ain't got worry about nobody looking

1626
01:18:37,720 --> 01:18:38,200
Speaker 4: in the mirror.

1627
01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:40,080
Speaker 3: Nobody gonna choke me.

1628
01:18:40,840 --> 01:18:43,599
Speaker 5: Sin straight to my house. Racism free.

1629
01:18:45,320 --> 01:18:47,080
Speaker 3: Me myself in life, says Rod.

1630
01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:48,960
Speaker 4: Like you, I view the video of the man getting

1631
01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:52,280
Speaker 4: his interview derailed by his family without any sort of input.

1632
01:18:52,360 --> 01:18:54,920
Speaker 4: I watched the video without sound at first, and instantly

1633
01:18:54,960 --> 01:18:57,320
Speaker 4: assumed that the woman was the children's mother, but later

1634
01:18:57,400 --> 01:18:59,200
Speaker 4: confirmed it when I rewatched it with the sound that

1635
01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:02,120
Speaker 4: heard the little girl say mom, why in Korean?

1636
01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:03,880
Speaker 3: After Oh you speek Korean?

1637
01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:06,240
Speaker 4: After all the discussion it calls, I wonder if my

1638
01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:08,759
Speaker 4: view of things were so different from everyone else. Because

1639
01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:11,840
Speaker 4: I currently live in Korea and see white and Asian

1640
01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:14,680
Speaker 4: interracial couples all the time. It never even crossed my

1641
01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:16,960
Speaker 4: mind that she was a nanny, and it really bothered

1642
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:21,000
Speaker 4: me that people assume that. Also, the video with the

1643
01:19:21,080 --> 01:19:23,559
Speaker 4: Korean clerk putting this and putting that woman in choko

1644
01:19:24,120 --> 01:19:26,000
Speaker 4: really was triggering for me. Like I said, I live

1645
01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:28,920
Speaker 4: in Korean, anti blackness is real here too. I often

1646
01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:31,280
Speaker 4: go in the stores and will be followed around by

1647
01:19:31,320 --> 01:19:33,760
Speaker 4: clerks for no other reason than my skin color. These

1648
01:19:33,840 --> 01:19:36,120
Speaker 4: same clerks will ignore my white and Korean friends and

1649
01:19:36,160 --> 01:19:39,679
Speaker 4: will hover over me the entire time, to where sometimes

1650
01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:40,519
Speaker 4: I just get fed.

1651
01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:41,719
Speaker 3: Up and decide not to buy anything.

1652
01:19:42,439 --> 01:19:45,200
Speaker 4: Another thing that really got to me about the situation

1653
01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:47,680
Speaker 4: was the way some black men were reacting to it.

1654
01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:49,560
Speaker 3: Oh God, what did we do?

1655
01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:53,600
Speaker 4: A lot of them were saying that if she had

1656
01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:57,160
Speaker 4: stolen from the owner. Then they had no sympathy for her,

1657
01:19:57,600 --> 01:19:59,400
Speaker 4: and that she was in no real danger of being

1658
01:19:59,439 --> 01:20:00,280
Speaker 4: strangled death.

1659
01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:03,080
Speaker 3: What I can believe that now?

1660
01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:06,240
Speaker 4: See imagine saying that shit when Eric Gardner was getting

1661
01:20:06,320 --> 01:20:09,880
Speaker 4: choked out. You know, these motherfuckers they chasted out as

1662
01:20:09,880 --> 01:20:13,000
Speaker 4: black women for buying wheeze and nails and eyelashes, oh god,

1663
01:20:13,640 --> 01:20:15,880
Speaker 4: and giving it to the white man's beauty standards, just

1664
01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:18,360
Speaker 4: basically derailing the conversation, right, that's.

1665
01:20:18,360 --> 01:20:21,560
Speaker 5: That's the whole purpose in the conversation. What about me?

1666
01:20:21,880 --> 01:20:24,240
Speaker 5: What about me? That's what that conversation seems.

1667
01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:26,919
Speaker 4: It's just so disheartened to see black men the fitness.

1668
01:20:27,479 --> 01:20:29,680
Speaker 4: Whenever the owner himself said he was wrong for what

1669
01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:32,040
Speaker 4: he did. These same men are up in arms the

1670
01:20:32,120 --> 01:20:34,200
Speaker 4: way Eric Gardner was treated, but can't see how this

1671
01:20:34,240 --> 01:20:35,120
Speaker 4: situation just as wrong.

1672
01:20:35,200 --> 01:20:37,920
Speaker 3: It blows my mind. Yeah, that's the name about choke hole.

1673
01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:38,160
Speaker 2: Man.

1674
01:20:38,320 --> 01:20:40,320
Speaker 3: You don't know, you ain't a professional.

1675
01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:43,040
Speaker 4: You could crush somebody's wind pipe and kill them and

1676
01:20:43,240 --> 01:20:45,439
Speaker 4: now you got a fucking murder case on your hands.

1677
01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:49,160
Speaker 3: And yeah you yeah, it's sad the brothers will opt

1678
01:20:49,200 --> 01:20:49,760
Speaker 3: out of some shit.

1679
01:20:49,880 --> 01:20:50,040
Speaker 8: Man.

1680
01:20:50,680 --> 01:20:53,080
Speaker 3: You know, it's a cold it's a cold world, man.

1681
01:20:53,160 --> 01:20:56,800
Speaker 4: People you really can't look up to nobody, really can't

1682
01:20:56,960 --> 01:20:59,920
Speaker 4: expect better from from anybody. People about it as low

1683
01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:03,360
Speaker 4: circumstances when it comes to this shit. You know, I

1684
01:21:03,479 --> 01:21:05,680
Speaker 4: still hear brothers trying to figure some way out to

1685
01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:08,479
Speaker 4: the Fenn Nate Parker and it's been months. You know,

1686
01:21:08,840 --> 01:21:12,559
Speaker 4: it's like it's sad, like they're never going to be better,

1687
01:21:12,840 --> 01:21:15,400
Speaker 4: a better person than they are today and they're resigned

1688
01:21:15,439 --> 01:21:15,640
Speaker 4: to it.

1689
01:21:16,439 --> 01:21:16,799
Speaker 3: Anyway.

1690
01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:18,600
Speaker 4: Sorry for such a long post. Thanks father, what you do?

1691
01:21:18,640 --> 01:21:20,120
Speaker 4: I listened to show Davely. It's a great way for

1692
01:21:20,200 --> 01:21:21,960
Speaker 4: me to keep updated on what's going on back home.

1693
01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:25,920
Speaker 4: Pskre you are my absolute favorite. All right, let me

1694
01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:28,120
Speaker 4: go to the next session real quick. Guys, we'll be

1695
01:21:28,200 --> 01:21:30,280
Speaker 4: right back on screen, right up against the break.

1696
01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:31,960
Speaker 3: All right.

1697
01:21:32,920 --> 01:21:33,479
Speaker 2: Mm hm.

1698
01:21:35,760 --> 01:21:37,080
Speaker 3: Oh you motherfuckers.

1699
01:21:38,160 --> 01:21:42,919
Speaker 7: Okay, all right, I'm putting cases on all you bitches.

1700
01:21:43,640 --> 01:21:43,840
Speaker 8: Huh.

1701
01:21:44,360 --> 01:21:48,280
Speaker 7: You think you can do this shit, You think you

1702
01:21:48,320 --> 01:21:52,840
Speaker 7: can do this to me? You motherfuckers will be playing

1703
01:21:52,920 --> 01:21:56,479
Speaker 7: basketball and elegant pain when I get finished with you.

1704
01:21:58,160 --> 01:22:02,479
Speaker 7: Shoot Program Nigga twenty three hour Lockdown.

1705
01:22:03,240 --> 01:22:04,719
Speaker 5: I'm the man up in this piece.

1706
01:22:06,360 --> 01:22:08,240
Speaker 7: You'll never see the light of the the fuck you

1707
01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:10,440
Speaker 7: think you fucking with you? I'm the police.

1708
01:22:10,840 --> 01:22:13,000
Speaker 3: I shit, you just live it.

1709
01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:17,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's like you better walk away, Go and walk

1710
01:22:17,880 --> 01:22:22,080
Speaker 7: away because I'm gonna burn this motherfucker down. King Kong

1711
01:22:22,400 --> 01:22:23,120
Speaker 7: ain't got.

1712
01:22:24,040 --> 01:22:27,519
Speaker 4: Me, all right, Jennka says, the dog story you read

1713
01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:29,800
Speaker 4: happened at the apartment complace I used to live at.

1714
01:22:30,280 --> 01:22:32,559
Speaker 3: What the fuck happened to that place? Shaking my damn head?

1715
01:22:34,200 --> 01:22:35,960
Speaker 3: And lastly, did you get a chance to try the

1716
01:22:36,040 --> 01:22:40,080
Speaker 3: naked chicken chaloupah? That was emotion of the moment on

1717
01:22:40,160 --> 01:22:40,439
Speaker 3: the show?

1718
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:47,920
Speaker 4: Fifty six percent said I wouldn't ever eat that, you snobs,

1719
01:22:50,080 --> 01:22:53,040
Speaker 4: thirty two percent said no, I wasn't able to get one,

1720
01:22:54,160 --> 01:22:58,519
Speaker 4: and twelve percent said mine mouth did taste the glory.

1721
01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:03,639
Speaker 4: Welcome to my club, guys. I was in that twelve percent,

1722
01:23:05,720 --> 01:23:09,480
Speaker 4: all right? Fourteen oh three never a bridesmaid.

1723
01:23:11,960 --> 01:23:13,519
Speaker 3: We talked about a bunch of different stuff.

1724
01:23:14,240 --> 01:23:16,080
Speaker 4: One of them was the cost of being a bridesmaid

1725
01:23:16,200 --> 01:23:19,200
Speaker 4: and what it would cost to pay women, what that

1726
01:23:19,360 --> 01:23:22,960
Speaker 4: worth for all the investment in time?

1727
01:23:23,880 --> 01:23:25,120
Speaker 3: But mil seventy three says on.

1728
01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:28,400
Speaker 4: Sam Jackson's comment, he does somewhat have somewhat of a point,

1729
01:23:28,680 --> 01:23:31,360
Speaker 4: but it's ruder than white supremacy. Probably not well illustrated

1730
01:23:31,400 --> 01:23:33,600
Speaker 4: by using get Out, which is a black production.

1731
01:23:33,320 --> 01:23:34,040
Speaker 3: As an example.

1732
01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:36,799
Speaker 4: The US and Europe seen to work on the principle

1733
01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:40,519
Speaker 4: that those Niggers from over there are better than our

1734
01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:43,479
Speaker 4: niggers over here. But by that I mean that black

1735
01:23:43,520 --> 01:23:45,280
Speaker 4: people from elsewhere seen to be treated a lot better

1736
01:23:45,320 --> 01:23:47,840
Speaker 4: than homegrown ones. I recentally read an essay written by

1737
01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:50,920
Speaker 4: Malcolm Gladwell back in nineteen ninety six that explored while

1738
01:23:50,960 --> 01:23:53,680
Speaker 4: West Indians seem to do better than American blacks in

1739
01:23:53,760 --> 01:23:57,160
Speaker 4: the New York area, further study showed that white people

1740
01:23:57,360 --> 01:24:00,160
Speaker 4: in hiring positions told themselves that these West Indians had

1741
01:24:00,160 --> 01:24:03,280
Speaker 4: a better work ethic than local blacks. They seem to

1742
01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:06,479
Speaker 4: have that perception for no other reason than that the

1743
01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:11,400
Speaker 4: immigrants that the immigrants were from somewhere else. Ironically, though,

1744
01:24:11,439 --> 01:24:13,960
Speaker 4: in Toronto, where they had where there have been an

1745
01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:15,720
Speaker 4: explosion of the black population.

1746
01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:16,360
Speaker 3: In the nineteen sixties.

1747
01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:20,639
Speaker 4: When West Indians started moving here in DROs, they they're

1748
01:24:20,680 --> 01:24:23,200
Speaker 4: in DROs. They were seen as loud, lazy, and possessing

1749
01:24:23,240 --> 01:24:26,200
Speaker 4: a bad work ethic. By the nineties, on the flip

1750
01:24:26,280 --> 01:24:29,200
Speaker 4: side and Europe Black Americans are treated with deference, especially

1751
01:24:29,280 --> 01:24:32,080
Speaker 4: in Paris and London. Since the twenties, African Americans like

1752
01:24:32,200 --> 01:24:35,439
Speaker 4: Josephine Baker and James bad Went immigrated to Europe to

1753
01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:38,200
Speaker 4: find that they were treated like royalty compared to the

1754
01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:41,200
Speaker 4: segregation and shit they left behind. Today, black tourists are

1755
01:24:41,280 --> 01:24:43,600
Speaker 4: not treated like black locals who face the type of

1756
01:24:43,800 --> 01:24:46,479
Speaker 4: shit black people face back in the States. It brings

1757
01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:49,080
Speaker 4: to my understanding ovations that Baldwin got at Oxford back

1758
01:24:49,120 --> 01:24:49,519
Speaker 4: in the day.

1759
01:24:50,160 --> 01:24:53,439
Speaker 3: Yep, yep. Yeah.

1760
01:24:53,479 --> 01:24:55,400
Speaker 4: One of the other things I find interesting about that

1761
01:24:55,560 --> 01:24:59,240
Speaker 4: too is imagine just not imagine. I mean, y'all mostly

1762
01:24:59,320 --> 01:25:02,000
Speaker 4: y'all are black propert but we're in the work, being

1763
01:25:02,080 --> 01:25:07,640
Speaker 4: in the workplace with white people that view us with

1764
01:25:07,800 --> 01:25:12,240
Speaker 4: all the stereotypical bullshit that is in this country.

1765
01:25:13,080 --> 01:25:14,840
Speaker 3: You know, like that shit just doesn't go away.

1766
01:25:15,160 --> 01:25:17,080
Speaker 4: You know, people that vote for Trump work at your job,

1767
01:25:18,640 --> 01:25:20,960
Speaker 4: and some of them are you know, if it's a

1768
01:25:21,000 --> 01:25:23,080
Speaker 4: white man, it's like a seventy percent chance, right, Like,

1769
01:25:23,640 --> 01:25:28,640
Speaker 4: like people that view you through a stereotypical lens and

1770
01:25:29,360 --> 01:25:34,200
Speaker 4: all the hundreds of years of just propaganda and negativity

1771
01:25:34,240 --> 01:25:36,120
Speaker 4: that that has gone our race as.

1772
01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:38,920
Speaker 3: Black people like those people work right there every day.

1773
01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:42,120
Speaker 4: They make decisions in your life every single day, and

1774
01:25:42,240 --> 01:25:43,479
Speaker 4: that shit just doesn't go away.

1775
01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:44,559
Speaker 5: Man. I think.

1776
01:25:46,200 --> 01:25:48,920
Speaker 4: When you think about the microaggressions of like like I said,

1777
01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:50,840
Speaker 4: when I was at Corp of America, and they would

1778
01:25:50,880 --> 01:25:54,720
Speaker 4: be I would be treated as antisocial and at the

1779
01:25:54,800 --> 01:25:58,479
Speaker 4: same time to social at the same time, Like it

1780
01:25:58,520 --> 01:26:01,519
Speaker 4: would be like Roger not talking to people enough. Get out,

1781
01:26:01,680 --> 01:26:06,200
Speaker 4: talk to you, to your workmates, and shit that needs

1782
01:26:06,240 --> 01:26:10,920
Speaker 4: to be you know, like everybody you know needs to

1783
01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:13,080
Speaker 4: know how cool of a person you are. I start

1784
01:26:13,160 --> 01:26:15,840
Speaker 4: doing that. Roger, you're out of your desk, You're talking

1785
01:26:15,880 --> 01:26:19,200
Speaker 4: too much. There's not you're socializing. Make sure you're not

1786
01:26:19,320 --> 01:26:22,360
Speaker 4: over socializing and I And keep in mind, this wasn't

1787
01:26:22,400 --> 01:26:25,080
Speaker 4: some extreme This wasn't like I went from I don't

1788
01:26:25,120 --> 01:26:26,880
Speaker 4: ever want to talk to these motherfuckers till all of

1789
01:26:26,880 --> 01:26:28,960
Speaker 4: a sudden, I'm over everybody's desk eight hours a day.

1790
01:26:29,680 --> 01:26:32,640
Speaker 4: It was just literally I couldn't do anything right. And

1791
01:26:32,760 --> 01:26:36,040
Speaker 4: I really think, after I don't know, fifteen years of

1792
01:26:36,080 --> 01:26:37,640
Speaker 4: cor in America, that's not on me.

1793
01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:38,679
Speaker 3: Dog yep.

1794
01:26:38,920 --> 01:26:41,320
Speaker 5: So you know I can't speak to anybody else.

1795
01:26:41,520 --> 01:26:43,360
Speaker 2: I've been to that too, and it's so fucking like,

1796
01:26:43,439 --> 01:26:45,640
Speaker 2: fuck it, I'm just anti goddamn social thing because you

1797
01:26:45,680 --> 01:26:46,599
Speaker 2: can't have it both right.

1798
01:26:46,840 --> 01:26:47,439
Speaker 3: But here's the thing.

1799
01:26:47,520 --> 01:26:49,840
Speaker 4: When you're anti social, it ends up trapping you in

1800
01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:53,080
Speaker 4: this maze of well, now, we're not gonna promote this person.

1801
01:26:53,439 --> 01:26:56,880
Speaker 4: Certain jobs aren't gonna be opening you certain opportunities, and

1802
01:26:56,960 --> 01:26:59,240
Speaker 4: people in positions that can help you in your career

1803
01:26:59,320 --> 01:27:01,639
Speaker 4: they're not gonna You're never gonna meet them or talk

1804
01:27:01,680 --> 01:27:01,960
Speaker 4: to them.

1805
01:27:02,120 --> 01:27:04,840
Speaker 3: They're never gonna take a shine to you. They might

1806
01:27:04,920 --> 01:27:05,880
Speaker 3: not put you under their wing.

1807
01:27:06,000 --> 01:27:07,559
Speaker 4: And it's one of the ways that white people keep

1808
01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:13,400
Speaker 4: getting socially promoted and rewarded because, wow, everyone that's not white,

1809
01:27:13,439 --> 01:27:15,719
Speaker 4: it's kind of at work swimming through this type of water.

1810
01:27:16,840 --> 01:27:20,639
Speaker 4: White people are effortlessly maneuvering because they're not being pushed

1811
01:27:20,680 --> 01:27:24,920
Speaker 4: against that way in many cases, and advice versa, and

1812
01:27:24,920 --> 01:27:26,960
Speaker 4: the same thing for like women and things of this nature,

1813
01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:30,040
Speaker 4: like anything that other than white male, there's gonna be

1814
01:27:30,120 --> 01:27:34,599
Speaker 4: this tie pushing against you. And yeah, definitely affects people,

1815
01:27:34,760 --> 01:27:37,320
Speaker 4: but the way that it's viewed in corporate America isn't.

1816
01:27:37,920 --> 01:27:40,320
Speaker 3: Well, what's wrong with corporate America is what's wrong with you?

1817
01:27:40,760 --> 01:27:40,920
Speaker 5: Right?

1818
01:27:41,439 --> 01:27:43,800
Speaker 4: Like, why aren't you succeeding as a black person in

1819
01:27:43,880 --> 01:27:47,960
Speaker 4: this environment? Where are your deficiencies? And very much of

1820
01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:52,880
Speaker 4: how we measure what a good quote unquote marginalized person

1821
01:27:53,000 --> 01:27:56,520
Speaker 4: is in corporate America is very much just about.

1822
01:27:57,920 --> 01:28:01,479
Speaker 3: How do you, adam make the whiteness right?

1823
01:28:02,040 --> 01:28:02,200
Speaker 2: You know?

1824
01:28:02,479 --> 01:28:04,800
Speaker 4: Are you saying at the at the Christmas party? Are

1825
01:28:04,840 --> 01:28:08,120
Speaker 4: you dancing teaching everybody the electric slide? Are you going

1826
01:28:08,160 --> 01:28:09,519
Speaker 4: out for beers at the work?

1827
01:28:09,840 --> 01:28:13,120
Speaker 5: Are you, you know, participating in company events?

1828
01:28:13,400 --> 01:28:14,160
Speaker 2: Right? You know?

1829
01:28:14,439 --> 01:28:17,519
Speaker 5: All those aside. You know, it's one of.

1830
01:28:17,520 --> 01:28:20,120
Speaker 2: Those things where I ain't trying to be funny. You

1831
01:28:20,320 --> 01:28:23,439
Speaker 2: end up with two people, and particularly black people in

1832
01:28:23,520 --> 01:28:26,160
Speaker 2: corporate America. You have the ones that quote unquote play

1833
01:28:26,200 --> 01:28:29,160
Speaker 2: the games. They still keep their blackness, but a lot

1834
01:28:29,160 --> 01:28:30,519
Speaker 2: of them play the games, but some of them actually

1835
01:28:30,560 --> 01:28:32,439
Speaker 2: see their blackness out to play those games.

1836
01:28:32,920 --> 01:28:34,799
Speaker 5: Then you have the other group to say, fuck.

1837
01:28:34,680 --> 01:28:37,000
Speaker 2: Y'all, I'm not wanna play your game. I don't give

1838
01:28:37,000 --> 01:28:38,479
Speaker 2: a fuck about it. I'm just gonna come here, do

1839
01:28:38,560 --> 01:28:39,840
Speaker 2: more work and goddamn go home.

1840
01:28:40,280 --> 01:28:40,960
Speaker 5: And it's one of them.

1841
01:28:41,000 --> 01:28:42,599
Speaker 2: You It's like you either follow one of those two

1842
01:28:42,680 --> 01:28:44,680
Speaker 2: categories there's no nuance.

1843
01:28:44,439 --> 01:28:49,720
Speaker 3: For us, Like, meanwhile, it's you know you're lazy and

1844
01:28:49,840 --> 01:28:51,639
Speaker 3: ship you if you go to other route.

1845
01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:54,880
Speaker 2: Right, And meanwhile, you have white coworkers that don't do

1846
01:28:55,040 --> 01:28:58,320
Speaker 2: shit that actually a lot of them don't it aren't

1847
01:28:58,320 --> 01:29:01,000
Speaker 2: even efficient at their job or a lot of times

1848
01:29:01,000 --> 01:29:02,559
Speaker 2: don't even know how to god them do their job.

1849
01:29:02,600 --> 01:29:04,519
Speaker 5: A lot of times they end up being promoted and

1850
01:29:04,640 --> 01:29:08,200
Speaker 5: being sometimes straight hired in positions over you. Well, you

1851
01:29:08,360 --> 01:29:10,599
Speaker 5: literally had to teach them how to do their job.

1852
01:29:11,160 --> 01:29:13,240
Speaker 2: So it's one of them things where once you realize

1853
01:29:13,360 --> 01:29:16,040
Speaker 2: for some people, not always, but for some people, it's

1854
01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:18,960
Speaker 2: just a big ass trap. And I will say this

1855
01:29:19,080 --> 01:29:20,559
Speaker 2: and now will continue to say this when it comes

1856
01:29:20,560 --> 01:29:23,400
Speaker 2: to corporate America. A lot of times, the only reason

1857
01:29:23,400 --> 01:29:25,080
Speaker 2: why I'm here is because the laws said that you

1858
01:29:25,200 --> 01:29:27,320
Speaker 2: had to let me in here, not because you freely

1859
01:29:27,400 --> 01:29:28,880
Speaker 2: wanted me to come through these doors.

1860
01:29:31,720 --> 01:29:32,920
Speaker 3: All right, Uh.

1861
01:29:33,479 --> 01:29:36,839
Speaker 4: Tanya W forty two says, oh my gosh, Care's comment,

1862
01:29:37,000 --> 01:29:40,000
Speaker 4: The only thing b Rock is tapping is Michelle's ass. Lol,

1863
01:29:40,080 --> 01:29:44,000
Speaker 4: I'm dead love you too, all the best, Amani right

1864
01:29:44,040 --> 01:29:45,880
Speaker 4: saying the heiat A lack story is one of the

1865
01:29:45,920 --> 01:29:48,800
Speaker 4: most infuriating examples of the jig rising. When we say

1866
01:29:48,880 --> 01:29:51,719
Speaker 4: this country's wealth was built on the backs of black bodies,

1867
01:29:51,760 --> 01:29:54,960
Speaker 4: people like to pretend that ending that that ended in slavery.

1868
01:29:55,120 --> 01:29:58,160
Speaker 3: If they acknowledged that much, this shit never stopped.

1869
01:29:58,200 --> 01:30:01,760
Speaker 4: Hell, you were just talking about everybody profiting off of

1870
01:30:01,960 --> 01:30:04,960
Speaker 4: on fleet, but Peaches. Even KitKat is in on the

1871
01:30:05,040 --> 01:30:06,360
Speaker 4: game joking, but only Conda.

1872
01:30:06,520 --> 01:30:07,160
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, man.

1873
01:30:07,760 --> 01:30:11,080
Speaker 4: KitKat made an advertisement that show a dude taking a

1874
01:30:11,160 --> 01:30:16,120
Speaker 4: bite of the KitKat without breaking into pieces and then disappearing.

1875
01:30:16,520 --> 01:30:18,960
Speaker 3: And I was like, nigga, y'all know, that's me what

1876
01:30:19,120 --> 01:30:23,320
Speaker 3: y'all doing, Kickcat. Shame on y'all. Y'all don't mind y'all.

1877
01:30:23,160 --> 01:30:24,920
Speaker 4: Having my idea, but y'all know, y'all could have at

1878
01:30:24,960 --> 01:30:27,719
Speaker 4: least broke me off a box of kit Cats something

1879
01:30:28,000 --> 01:30:29,960
Speaker 4: that's man, I ain't even but you know it's funny.

1880
01:30:30,400 --> 01:30:33,120
Speaker 4: My shit went more viral than they shit, and they

1881
01:30:33,200 --> 01:30:36,719
Speaker 4: send it out from like the kitcat US Twitter account,

1882
01:30:36,840 --> 01:30:38,599
Speaker 4: and my shit still got more hits.

1883
01:30:38,840 --> 01:30:39,840
Speaker 3: Y'all. Y'all evil for that.

1884
01:30:39,960 --> 01:30:42,400
Speaker 4: Kit Cat y'all wrong, man, That's why I eat y'all

1885
01:30:42,400 --> 01:30:47,679
Speaker 4: shit the wrong way. Fuck it, y'all wrong for that. Also,

1886
01:30:47,840 --> 01:30:49,960
Speaker 4: I figured out how to make Sam Jackson happy and

1887
01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:51,559
Speaker 4: saw this black British actor riff.

1888
01:30:51,800 --> 01:30:54,080
Speaker 3: He just needs Aaron Foster the head over there and

1889
01:30:54,160 --> 01:30:55,120
Speaker 3: play some of their roles.

1890
01:30:55,160 --> 01:30:58,360
Speaker 4: It's only fair. Yeah, Aaron Foster's British accent is horrible.

1891
01:30:58,800 --> 01:31:00,360
Speaker 4: He would definitely stick out.

1892
01:31:00,240 --> 01:31:02,040
Speaker 3: Like a sore thumb. Al says.

1893
01:31:02,120 --> 01:31:04,320
Speaker 4: The only thing about the Hell of Sales from here

1894
01:31:04,360 --> 01:31:06,560
Speaker 4: here the lax is the fact that other people with

1895
01:31:06,720 --> 01:31:10,400
Speaker 4: immortal sales have been compensated. M always says the other thing,

1896
01:31:10,479 --> 01:31:12,679
Speaker 4: not the only thing. And if I remember it correctly,

1897
01:31:12,800 --> 01:31:14,920
Speaker 4: they have been white. So the narrative there are cell

1898
01:31:14,960 --> 01:31:17,280
Speaker 4: tissue being medical waste feels move in light of the

1899
01:31:17,320 --> 01:31:19,679
Speaker 4: fact that there are examples of the medical research community

1900
01:31:20,080 --> 01:31:23,799
Speaker 4: getting informed consent before experimenting. Also, this is a trillion

1901
01:31:23,840 --> 01:31:27,479
Speaker 4: dollar industry that continues the profit from her contribution. Contribution

1902
01:31:27,560 --> 01:31:29,360
Speaker 4: feels like a choice, so I'll say continues a profit

1903
01:31:29,400 --> 01:31:30,320
Speaker 4: from her this death.

1904
01:31:30,880 --> 01:31:32,479
Speaker 3: Justice has not been served by the way.

1905
01:31:32,560 --> 01:31:34,800
Speaker 4: The book is the Fantastic Reed. Yeah, and there's a

1906
01:31:34,880 --> 01:31:38,040
Speaker 4: movie coming out too in April and oprahstarring in it.

1907
01:31:39,240 --> 01:31:41,880
Speaker 4: John Hawkins says, I was never a bridesmaid, but a

1908
01:31:42,000 --> 01:31:45,160
Speaker 4: matron of honor. At my friends Joe or is it Jay?

1909
01:31:45,200 --> 01:31:48,439
Speaker 4: I'm sorry either way, but I was a matron of

1910
01:31:48,479 --> 01:31:51,519
Speaker 4: honor at my friend's wedding. It was a destination wedding

1911
01:31:51,840 --> 01:31:53,760
Speaker 4: to Florida, and of course there was the cost of

1912
01:31:53,760 --> 01:31:56,280
Speaker 4: the dress, shoes, hotel, and plane ticket. I was not

1913
01:31:56,360 --> 01:31:58,519
Speaker 4: about that life after I found out the total costs,

1914
01:31:58,600 --> 01:32:00,680
Speaker 4: Luckily it was almost a year of she knew I

1915
01:32:00,680 --> 01:32:01,400
Speaker 4: couldn't afford it.

1916
01:32:02,200 --> 01:32:05,360
Speaker 3: Damn. That's also weird. It's like, I know you can't

1917
01:32:05,400 --> 01:32:07,160
Speaker 3: afford it, but come to my wedding. Where is it

1918
01:32:07,200 --> 01:32:12,880
Speaker 3: that the moon? So do you really not want me there?

1919
01:32:13,000 --> 01:32:15,920
Speaker 3: What Mss Danny Ten says?

1920
01:32:16,200 --> 01:32:18,639
Speaker 4: Hey, I was gonna write an email, but I figured

1921
01:32:18,640 --> 01:32:20,879
Speaker 4: I'll just lead a comment here. The story of Henrietta

1922
01:32:20,960 --> 01:32:23,759
Speaker 4: Lacks on the Tuskegee Syphilists experiment done by the government

1923
01:32:23,840 --> 01:32:26,639
Speaker 4: nineteen thirty two or nineteen seventy two up through nineteen

1924
01:32:26,680 --> 01:32:29,200
Speaker 4: seventy two have been two of those things that inspired

1925
01:32:29,240 --> 01:32:31,160
Speaker 4: me to go into medicine as well as research. During

1926
01:32:31,200 --> 01:32:34,960
Speaker 4: my undergrad time at Tuskegee University as biology major TU

1927
01:32:35,160 --> 01:32:38,960
Speaker 4: you know, shout out to HBCUs, I got to learn

1928
01:32:39,120 --> 01:32:43,160
Speaker 4: more in depth about the medical research as it pertains

1929
01:32:43,200 --> 01:32:45,360
Speaker 4: to the black community. We even take classes and have

1930
01:32:45,479 --> 01:32:48,360
Speaker 4: a museum in the building built around the hospital where

1931
01:32:48,400 --> 01:32:51,599
Speaker 4: the Syphilist experiment took place. It was remodeled National Center

1932
01:32:51,720 --> 01:32:54,639
Speaker 4: for blothex in Research Healthcare.

1933
01:32:55,240 --> 01:32:57,720
Speaker 3: Oh or is it blowethics? So I don't know which

1934
01:32:57,760 --> 01:32:58,200
Speaker 3: one that was.

1935
01:32:58,280 --> 01:33:03,520
Speaker 5: Anyway, that's how somebody got a PhD in dick sucking.

1936
01:33:04,760 --> 01:33:05,000
Speaker 2: God?

1937
01:33:05,160 --> 01:33:10,320
Speaker 5: Can you said it blow ethics?

1938
01:33:11,320 --> 01:33:15,519
Speaker 3: Seeing miss ever, I got my master's in that blow ethics.

1939
01:33:15,680 --> 01:33:19,800
Speaker 5: Dog, little doctor.

1940
01:33:28,880 --> 01:33:31,879
Speaker 3: Trying to read your very serious email, Sorr.

1941
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Speaker 5: I de weild it with blow ethics.

1942
01:33:34,680 --> 01:33:39,760
Speaker 4: I can't help it, uh, seeing missus ever, boys show

1943
01:33:39,840 --> 01:33:43,400
Speaker 4: a little more about the showed a little more about the.

1944
01:33:43,600 --> 01:33:46,240
Speaker 3: Treatment of the men in the Tuskeie experiment.

1945
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Speaker 4: All the government did was offer a funky as apologizes

1946
01:33:48,439 --> 01:33:51,080
Speaker 4: in nineteen ninety seven. Due to though it happened in

1947
01:33:51,160 --> 01:33:55,000
Speaker 4: each stories, researchers and physicians have now to now have

1948
01:33:55,120 --> 01:33:58,640
Speaker 4: to take a medical medical research ethics courses, give participants

1949
01:33:58,640 --> 01:34:01,160
Speaker 4: in form consent forms which are thoroughly explained to the

1950
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Speaker 4: individual before they sign it, and they have to submit

1951
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Speaker 4: it IRB or even to even have a human research

1952
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Speaker 4: trials approved.

1953
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Speaker 3: I'm grateful for oh it's pronounced heala.

1954
01:34:11,960 --> 01:34:16,519
Speaker 4: I'm grateful for HeLa sales and that in the many

1955
01:34:16,560 --> 01:34:19,800
Speaker 4: advancements in the medical community that have been made with them,

1956
01:34:19,880 --> 01:34:23,680
Speaker 4: but I hate how they have been established, I mean,

1957
01:34:23,760 --> 01:34:26,880
Speaker 4: have been obtained, and the fact that Henrietta no longer

1958
01:34:27,280 --> 01:34:30,080
Speaker 4: nor her family can get any oppensations. I've never worked

1959
01:34:30,360 --> 01:34:32,360
Speaker 4: with those sales, but I do work for human donor

1960
01:34:32,439 --> 01:34:34,200
Speaker 4: cells in the lab in order to find treatments for

1961
01:34:34,280 --> 01:34:37,720
Speaker 4: individuals a sickle cell disease. Today, donors are given conversation

1962
01:34:38,400 --> 01:34:42,040
Speaker 4: for their initial donation of sales, but aren't given anything further.

1963
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Speaker 3: I e.

1964
01:34:43,360 --> 01:34:45,800
Speaker 4: If I donated cervical sales for a study, I get

1965
01:34:45,840 --> 01:34:48,200
Speaker 4: paid a sum for the donation, but if they take

1966
01:34:48,240 --> 01:34:50,080
Speaker 4: those sales to find a cure for AIDS, I don't

1967
01:34:50,120 --> 01:34:53,040
Speaker 4: get the payment. The protocol is that they formed consent

1968
01:34:53,160 --> 01:34:56,080
Speaker 4: for them, tells the individuals everything about this study and

1969
01:34:56,160 --> 01:34:57,839
Speaker 4: what the doctors will do with any.

1970
01:34:57,680 --> 01:35:01,200
Speaker 3: Cevil that's collected from the participant. No, thank you, that

1971
01:35:01,240 --> 01:35:04,559
Speaker 3: was informative comment.

1972
01:35:04,760 --> 01:35:06,680
Speaker 2: I mean, I still didn't think that's fucked up, but

1973
01:35:06,760 --> 01:35:08,600
Speaker 2: at least you get some form of conversation.

1974
01:35:08,800 --> 01:35:11,519
Speaker 5: She got zero dolls and zero cent have.

1975
01:35:11,600 --> 01:35:14,200
Speaker 4: You ever been a bridemaid? It was the pole, Yes

1976
01:35:14,320 --> 01:35:16,880
Speaker 4: but it was cheap, Yes and it was expensive or no.

1977
01:35:17,520 --> 01:35:19,799
Speaker 4: Sixty three percent of our audience has never been a bridesmaid,

1978
01:35:20,760 --> 01:35:23,960
Speaker 4: twenty six percent said yes and it was expensive, and

1979
01:35:24,200 --> 01:35:25,880
Speaker 4: twelve percent said yes but it was cheap.

1980
01:35:28,439 --> 01:35:29,160
Speaker 3: Interesting pole.

1981
01:35:29,760 --> 01:35:34,000
Speaker 4: And lastly, Morgan Go's four Throttle was episode fourteen oh

1982
01:35:34,080 --> 01:35:38,800
Speaker 4: four and it was our recapital Walking Dead and we

1983
01:35:38,960 --> 01:35:43,600
Speaker 4: had Jeremy from the Crown in College podcast on the

1984
01:35:43,680 --> 01:35:49,599
Speaker 4: CSPN podcast, cir Max says, I don't think Gavin's crew

1985
01:35:49,680 --> 01:35:53,519
Speaker 4: is itching to kill uh. They have plenty of zombie

1986
01:35:53,600 --> 01:35:56,360
Speaker 4: killing whenever they want. They're just bullies and they need

1987
01:35:56,439 --> 01:35:59,080
Speaker 4: to see the victim's coward. We've seen that with the

1988
01:35:59,160 --> 01:36:01,519
Speaker 4: others like the one that hip the Eugenie to the game.

1989
01:36:01,880 --> 01:36:04,439
Speaker 4: They do the same thing in their own compound in

1990
01:36:04,520 --> 01:36:10,760
Speaker 4: the market. That's why Bizarro dude loves the flex. The

1991
01:36:10,880 --> 01:36:13,560
Speaker 4: funny thing is he's just a buster without being in

1992
01:36:13,640 --> 01:36:16,519
Speaker 4: the crew. He did stomped out. Even being could take

1993
01:36:16,560 --> 01:36:18,640
Speaker 4: that dude out, and I think that's why Gavin is

1994
01:36:18,680 --> 01:36:24,719
Speaker 4: so annoyed. Bizarro's constant flexing and provocation caused previously docile

1995
01:36:24,840 --> 01:36:28,479
Speaker 4: people to begin to start to raise up. Nah, I'm

1996
01:36:28,479 --> 01:36:30,560
Speaker 4: gonna say no on this, man, I'm gonna say no.

1997
01:36:31,280 --> 01:36:33,759
Speaker 4: They've been wanting to kill somebody in Ziego's crew because

1998
01:36:33,800 --> 01:36:34,080
Speaker 4: that's what.

1999
01:36:34,160 --> 01:36:37,400
Speaker 3: They do from day one. Now, don't like, look at

2000
01:36:37,439 --> 01:36:39,800
Speaker 3: how pressed Neigha was to kill somebody for ri his crew.

2001
01:36:40,640 --> 01:36:44,439
Speaker 4: They probably could have worked it out, but several times

2002
01:36:44,520 --> 01:36:46,680
Speaker 4: it was like, well somebody got to die, Like we

2003
01:36:46,880 --> 01:36:49,639
Speaker 4: got to kill that's just a thing that's gonna happen.

2004
01:36:49,800 --> 01:36:52,000
Speaker 3: We kill a person no matter what.

2005
01:36:52,560 --> 01:36:57,320
Speaker 4: And I think that's their company policy, and Gavin in them,

2006
01:36:57,560 --> 01:36:59,880
Speaker 4: gathering in them just want to do the company policy, man,

2007
01:37:00,400 --> 01:37:02,719
Speaker 4: And they weren't doing their part, like they've been itching

2008
01:37:02,760 --> 01:37:05,000
Speaker 4: to kill somebody. That's why he wanted Richard to keep coming.

2009
01:37:05,640 --> 01:37:06,559
Speaker 3: You know, it just didn't.

2010
01:37:06,680 --> 01:37:09,000
Speaker 4: I don't think Gavin gave a fuck, you know, I

2011
01:37:09,000 --> 01:37:11,439
Speaker 4: don't think he was even really mad at that dude

2012
01:37:12,080 --> 01:37:12,759
Speaker 4: killing somebody.

2013
01:37:12,800 --> 01:37:14,960
Speaker 3: He was mad he didn't kill Richard. He told him

2014
01:37:15,000 --> 01:37:15,759
Speaker 3: to kill Richard.

2015
01:37:16,360 --> 01:37:18,560
Speaker 4: He told like, that's the reason he's mad, was you

2016
01:37:18,720 --> 01:37:21,400
Speaker 4: killed the wrong person. It's not like Gavin said, well,

2017
01:37:21,439 --> 01:37:24,559
Speaker 4: go ahead and do it, and then was like kill anybody.

2018
01:37:24,640 --> 01:37:28,559
Speaker 4: He meant kill Richard, right, Bullies don't like to get

2019
01:37:28,680 --> 01:37:31,040
Speaker 4: and hit back. They pick on people that won't hit back.

2020
01:37:31,280 --> 01:37:32,720
Speaker 4: So for the weakest dude and the crew to kill

2021
01:37:32,720 --> 01:37:34,559
Speaker 4: the boy was too much. It's like when you constantly

2022
01:37:34,640 --> 01:37:36,360
Speaker 4: had to fight because you have a mouthy friend that

2023
01:37:36,400 --> 01:37:37,160
Speaker 4: can't hold his own.

2024
01:37:37,479 --> 01:37:39,680
Speaker 3: You might back him up, but that doesn't mean it

2025
01:37:39,720 --> 01:37:40,559
Speaker 3: doesn't get on your nerves.

2026
01:37:40,600 --> 01:37:42,280
Speaker 4: None of the other folks in the crew are on

2027
01:37:42,439 --> 01:37:46,280
Speaker 4: constant provocation mode. Also, I think bizarre dude is exactly

2028
01:37:46,720 --> 01:37:48,640
Speaker 4: what you got to deal with without me, and to

2029
01:37:48,720 --> 01:37:50,240
Speaker 4: cut you cut off the head and all the structure

2030
01:37:50,240 --> 01:37:53,760
Speaker 4: goes away. All this left as robin bands and marauders. Now,

2031
01:37:53,920 --> 01:37:56,679
Speaker 4: that might make them less effective and easier to beat,

2032
01:37:56,840 --> 01:37:59,120
Speaker 4: but I would also it would also bring a different

2033
01:37:59,120 --> 01:37:59,679
Speaker 4: type of terror.

2034
01:38:01,080 --> 01:38:02,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, mag I got it. I gotta disagree with you.

2035
01:38:02,920 --> 01:38:07,040
Speaker 4: Don gotta say, dude wasn't mad that he killed somebody,

2036
01:38:07,280 --> 01:38:08,679
Speaker 4: was mad he killed the wrong somebody.

2037
01:38:08,800 --> 01:38:11,040
Speaker 3: And that's it. They they wanted, they been wanting to

2038
01:38:11,120 --> 01:38:12,840
Speaker 3: kill somebody from jumping. Richard made it.

2039
01:38:13,439 --> 01:38:16,880
Speaker 4: He was the one, Willy Brooks says, then one one

2040
01:38:16,960 --> 01:38:19,000
Speaker 4: dispatch in the Tamia rights case one hundred.

2041
01:38:19,240 --> 01:38:21,080
Speaker 3: I don't need to hear another anything further.

2042
01:38:21,640 --> 01:38:23,760
Speaker 4: Yes, I played fucking with black people at work right

2043
01:38:23,880 --> 01:38:25,559
Speaker 4: along which I love you guys.

2044
01:38:25,680 --> 01:38:26,840
Speaker 3: This show is my favorite. Thanks.

2045
01:38:26,880 --> 01:38:30,160
Speaker 4: Willy Eddie says, I think the Kingdom was going to

2046
01:38:30,200 --> 01:38:32,200
Speaker 4: be okay as far as having food to give to

2047
01:38:32,320 --> 01:38:36,280
Speaker 4: the saviors because the bugs only, the bugs only was

2048
01:38:36,360 --> 01:38:39,479
Speaker 4: in the king zik personal garden, as the lady who

2049
01:38:39,560 --> 01:38:44,599
Speaker 4: peed her pants said they needed to burn his garden

2050
01:38:44,640 --> 01:38:46,479
Speaker 4: to get rid of them before they spread it to

2051
01:38:46,560 --> 01:38:49,760
Speaker 4: the main garden. But I like how that was slid

2052
01:38:49,840 --> 01:38:51,680
Speaker 4: in the show to make that a building block is

2053
01:38:51,720 --> 01:38:54,800
Speaker 4: a reason why the fighting should happen. Yeah, I think

2054
01:38:54,880 --> 01:38:57,000
Speaker 4: they She didn't say your personal guarden, She just said

2055
01:38:57,000 --> 01:39:00,679
Speaker 4: the royal garden, right, So I don't know that that means.

2056
01:39:00,920 --> 01:39:03,280
Speaker 4: I don't know that the royal garden isn't what they're

2057
01:39:03,280 --> 01:39:06,360
Speaker 4: feeding everybody with, So I would need some sort of

2058
01:39:06,439 --> 01:39:09,400
Speaker 4: distinction on that, you know.

2059
01:39:10,240 --> 01:39:11,000
Speaker 3: I don't know.

2060
01:39:11,439 --> 01:39:13,479
Speaker 4: And also, Zeke doesn't seem like the kind of person

2061
01:39:13,600 --> 01:39:16,759
Speaker 4: that comes off like he would have a personal stash

2062
01:39:16,960 --> 01:39:20,840
Speaker 4: of this big ass garden with only he ate out

2063
01:39:20,880 --> 01:39:23,439
Speaker 4: of it and fuck everybody else. I don't think that's happening,

2064
01:39:23,560 --> 01:39:26,280
Speaker 4: so uh, I bet you that ship does have something

2065
01:39:26,320 --> 01:39:30,040
Speaker 4: to do any any loss of crops in a in

2066
01:39:30,160 --> 01:39:34,800
Speaker 4: a situation where you're trading crops every week, it's bad, right,

2067
01:39:34,960 --> 01:39:38,519
Speaker 4: I mean either either way, it's it's moving towards we

2068
01:39:38,600 --> 01:39:40,040
Speaker 4: gotta make a decision.

2069
01:39:40,160 --> 01:39:41,360
Speaker 5: And it could take month.

2070
01:39:41,600 --> 01:39:43,439
Speaker 2: My thing is gonna it could take It's gonna take

2071
01:39:43,520 --> 01:39:46,200
Speaker 2: months to get it bad, right, And if you know

2072
01:39:46,280 --> 01:39:49,439
Speaker 2: anything about crops, they have seasons. Crops have seasons. Like,

2073
01:39:50,240 --> 01:39:52,240
Speaker 2: so you're planning too late, You're gonna have a problem.

2074
01:39:52,280 --> 01:39:54,479
Speaker 2: You're planning too early. You're gonna have a problem in

2075
01:39:54,479 --> 01:39:55,040
Speaker 2: the off season.

2076
01:39:55,080 --> 01:39:55,920
Speaker 5: You're gonna have a problem.

2077
01:39:56,479 --> 01:40:01,559
Speaker 3: Right, So he let's see what else.

2078
01:40:02,120 --> 01:40:04,040
Speaker 4: He also says, in reference to the preview for next week,

2079
01:40:04,080 --> 01:40:06,360
Speaker 4: I knew Darryl going back to Hilltop was gonna be

2080
01:40:06,400 --> 01:40:08,320
Speaker 4: an issue, but that was made even more apparent after

2081
01:40:08,400 --> 01:40:10,880
Speaker 4: doctor Carson was killed at the Savings Camp. Not sure

2082
01:40:10,880 --> 01:40:12,960
Speaker 4: if you guys caught it or not, but right after

2083
01:40:13,040 --> 01:40:15,560
Speaker 4: throwing him in the fire, Nigga says, glad we have

2084
01:40:15,680 --> 01:40:18,800
Speaker 4: another one. It referenced to doctor Carson's brother, the other

2085
01:40:18,880 --> 01:40:21,360
Speaker 4: doctor Carson, who was currently doctor at Hilltop.

2086
01:40:21,520 --> 01:40:24,000
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so maybe that's what.

2087
01:40:24,120 --> 01:40:27,640
Speaker 4: Simon's up there talking about some where is he he

2088
01:40:27,720 --> 01:40:30,400
Speaker 4: might be talking about doctor Carson, which would still be

2089
01:40:30,479 --> 01:40:32,479
Speaker 4: a problem because wh's gonna help Maggie have that baby.

2090
01:40:34,040 --> 01:40:35,720
Speaker 4: I said all that to just say I think that

2091
01:40:35,800 --> 01:40:37,599
Speaker 4: that's the reason the save is I headed to the hilltop.

2092
01:40:37,680 --> 01:40:40,280
Speaker 4: Not that they that was tiped off that Daryl was there,

2093
01:40:40,400 --> 01:40:43,200
Speaker 4: but just them going there will be an issue because,

2094
01:40:43,240 --> 01:40:46,400
Speaker 4: as you stayed in the episode, punk a punk ass,

2095
01:40:46,520 --> 01:40:49,160
Speaker 4: Gregory is a rat egg week, so he would drop

2096
01:40:49,200 --> 01:40:51,599
Speaker 4: a dime on either Daryl or Maggie, who Nigan thinks

2097
01:40:51,680 --> 01:40:56,280
Speaker 4: is dead. He would do something that will do nothing

2098
01:40:56,360 --> 01:40:58,960
Speaker 4: but cause issues for the group. As always great review

2099
01:41:00,200 --> 01:41:01,759
Speaker 4: hearing you guys' views on the episode.

2100
01:41:01,840 --> 01:41:02,360
Speaker 3: Thanks Eddie.

2101
01:41:03,240 --> 01:41:06,160
Speaker 4: Amani says, the slave auction story caught me because that's

2102
01:41:06,520 --> 01:41:09,240
Speaker 4: the district I went to high school. I was already

2103
01:41:09,320 --> 01:41:12,519
Speaker 4: going to be a shift. Well, I was already it

2104
01:41:12,640 --> 01:41:14,760
Speaker 4: was already going to be a shift moving from an

2105
01:41:14,760 --> 01:41:18,160
Speaker 4: all black afrocentric school in the hood to a blended suburb.

2106
01:41:18,240 --> 01:41:21,439
Speaker 4: But the school had a great reputation, but it's full

2107
01:41:21,520 --> 01:41:23,559
Speaker 4: of that good northern white liberal racism.

2108
01:41:23,720 --> 01:41:24,080
Speaker 3: Shocking.

2109
01:41:24,240 --> 01:41:24,479
Speaker 2: I know.

2110
01:41:25,000 --> 01:41:27,360
Speaker 4: They sell themselves on the diversity being right outside of

2111
01:41:27,400 --> 01:41:29,800
Speaker 4: New York and it's dope having people from all backgrounds

2112
01:41:29,840 --> 01:41:32,120
Speaker 4: in town getting along, but they don't tell you when

2113
01:41:32,160 --> 01:41:34,160
Speaker 4: the school is over, your black ass walking on the

2114
01:41:34,280 --> 01:41:36,320
Speaker 4: right side of the train tracks with the rest of

2115
01:41:36,320 --> 01:41:38,479
Speaker 4: the niggas, while most of the white kads had on

2116
01:41:38,600 --> 01:41:39,639
Speaker 4: the other side of the hills.

2117
01:41:40,680 --> 01:41:42,400
Speaker 3: When I was there, at least there.

2118
01:41:42,720 --> 01:41:46,679
Speaker 4: There was actually more black than students than white, except

2119
01:41:47,040 --> 01:41:49,559
Speaker 4: in all the advance and honor courses, which were almost

2120
01:41:49,600 --> 01:41:53,640
Speaker 4: exclusively white when we were led. When we led a

2121
01:41:53,720 --> 01:41:57,599
Speaker 4: walk out protest, I still never heard more get out

2122
01:41:57,680 --> 01:42:01,040
Speaker 4: style polite ways of calling us niggers than that week

2123
01:42:01,360 --> 01:42:02,680
Speaker 4: and getting yelled at in.

2124
01:42:02,760 --> 01:42:04,120
Speaker 3: The border education meetings.

2125
01:42:04,479 --> 01:42:07,760
Speaker 4: From what I understand, the slave posters were just one

2126
01:42:07,840 --> 01:42:11,120
Speaker 4: option amongst several signers. But it doesn't surprise me a

2127
01:42:11,280 --> 01:42:13,240
Speaker 4: district that the loses itself in the believer in it

2128
01:42:13,920 --> 01:42:16,320
Speaker 4: really is post Racio would propose that, and not to

2129
01:42:16,520 --> 01:42:20,240
Speaker 4: understanding the content needed before, just the context needed before

2130
01:42:20,320 --> 01:42:22,960
Speaker 4: just hanging them around school and after that fucking with

2131
01:42:23,040 --> 01:42:26,080
Speaker 4: black people in my ass was just like Morgan seeing

2132
01:42:26,200 --> 01:42:29,000
Speaker 4: clear on the face of any treacherous white man that

2133
01:42:29,120 --> 01:42:30,879
Speaker 4: comes across trying to undermine Obama.

2134
01:42:31,000 --> 01:42:35,439
Speaker 3: I mean Ezekiel Classic R and B lover says, Hey, Hi,

2135
01:42:35,640 --> 01:42:36,280
Speaker 3: Rod and Karen.

2136
01:42:36,920 --> 01:42:39,000
Speaker 4: I think I might have commented on this previously, but

2137
01:42:39,080 --> 01:42:41,320
Speaker 4: it's also possible that I meant to comment and never did.

2138
01:42:41,800 --> 01:42:43,800
Speaker 4: I do just admit that I am not really like

2139
01:42:44,000 --> 01:42:46,479
Speaker 4: I'm not really a Walking Dead fan, not because of

2140
01:42:46,560 --> 01:42:48,600
Speaker 4: the show itself, but because of the zombie issue. I

2141
01:42:48,640 --> 01:42:51,560
Speaker 4: hate them really discussing and too slow moving, but the

2142
01:42:51,680 --> 01:42:55,680
Speaker 4: z pop probably changes this and shifts the odds. I

2143
01:42:55,800 --> 01:42:59,840
Speaker 4: started watching this season because of Jeffrey Dean Morgan. For

2144
01:43:00,080 --> 01:43:02,479
Speaker 4: the most part, I haven't really been able to get

2145
01:43:02,520 --> 01:43:04,680
Speaker 4: into the episodes without him, but that is to be

2146
01:43:04,760 --> 01:43:06,960
Speaker 4: accepted since I'm essentially joining the party three.

2147
01:43:06,920 --> 01:43:07,680
Speaker 3: Quarters of the way in.

2148
01:43:08,280 --> 01:43:11,560
Speaker 4: As a result, your cast is really helpful book to

2149
01:43:11,600 --> 01:43:13,320
Speaker 4: me because you explain things in a way that helps

2150
01:43:13,360 --> 01:43:16,240
Speaker 4: me connect with the backstory. I likely will tune out

2151
01:43:16,360 --> 01:43:18,880
Speaker 4: once Jeffrey Dean Morgan is gone, but will probably continue

2152
01:43:18,880 --> 01:43:21,760
Speaker 4: to listen to the podcast cause, in all honesty, I'm

2153
01:43:21,800 --> 01:43:24,040
Speaker 4: more taken by it than I am about to show itself.

2154
01:43:24,600 --> 01:43:27,080
Speaker 3: Thank you for listening. You appreciate it, and.

2155
01:43:27,120 --> 01:43:30,120
Speaker 4: The poems with Morgan go for clear now that he's killed. Yes,

2156
01:43:30,200 --> 01:43:33,400
Speaker 4: he's gonna be cuckoo. No, he's got it under control.

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Speaker 4: Ccy A percent say he gonna be crazy, and that

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Speaker 4: means thirty two percent say, nah, he's gonna he got

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Speaker 4: it under control.

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Speaker 3: Care what you think.

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01:43:44,040 --> 01:43:46,280
Speaker 5: I was gonna go known? But yeah, I think he

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01:43:46,360 --> 01:43:47,080
Speaker 5: can go crazy.

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01:43:47,520 --> 01:43:47,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't.

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01:43:47,960 --> 01:43:50,040
Speaker 4: Something about him sharpening in that stick, I'm like, man,

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01:43:51,080 --> 01:43:53,080
Speaker 4: And then the way he kind of flinched, like is

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01:43:53,120 --> 01:43:54,920
Speaker 4: somebody talking about me behind my back?

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01:43:55,560 --> 01:43:57,160
Speaker 3: I ain't like that. So I don't know.

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01:43:57,200 --> 01:43:59,519
Speaker 4: I'm nervous for Morgan. I hope you don't go full crazy,

2169
01:43:59,600 --> 01:44:03,680
Speaker 4: but can I can? I truly be surprised if he

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01:44:04,120 --> 01:44:08,680
Speaker 4: goes full bananas out here? All right, let's listen to

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01:44:09,080 --> 01:44:10,880
Speaker 4: some voicemails I got several this week.

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01:44:13,800 --> 01:44:18,600
Speaker 8: Hi guys, this is Sierra at Mom's Drag with Swags.

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01:44:19,040 --> 01:44:25,280
Speaker 8: First of all, once again, great week, great podcast. Queen Karen,

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01:44:25,800 --> 01:44:30,080
Speaker 8: your laugh makes my cereal so magical. If you want

2175
01:44:30,240 --> 01:44:33,240
Speaker 8: pour your milk in the bowl first and then pull

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01:44:33,280 --> 01:44:34,080
Speaker 8: your cereal.

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Speaker 7: You go ahead.

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01:44:35,280 --> 01:44:38,400
Speaker 6: You go ahead because you are the queen and you

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01:44:38,479 --> 01:44:41,160
Speaker 6: can do whatever the fuck you like. And Rod is

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01:44:41,160 --> 01:44:42,120
Speaker 6: a significant used to it.

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01:44:42,280 --> 01:44:44,639
Speaker 8: Love you, Rod, you ain't shit. You ain't gonna be shit,

2182
01:44:44,680 --> 01:44:47,559
Speaker 8: but I love you. Second of all, I am timing

2183
01:44:47,640 --> 01:44:54,559
Speaker 8: myself because you know I do tend to like long messages.

2184
01:44:54,520 --> 01:44:56,240
Speaker 3: But you can have.

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01:44:56,240 --> 01:44:58,720
Speaker 8: The guys have to understand, I'm a military wife. I

2186
01:44:58,840 --> 01:45:01,960
Speaker 8: am in Virginia by myself. I am born and raised

2187
01:45:02,000 --> 01:45:05,280
Speaker 8: in a whole another state. So you guys are my

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01:45:05,439 --> 01:45:08,200
Speaker 8: safe space. And I know I don't I don't want

2189
01:45:08,240 --> 01:45:11,720
Speaker 8: to put that pressure on you, like, but you guys are,

2190
01:45:11,960 --> 01:45:13,280
Speaker 8: and you guys got friends in my head.

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01:45:13,320 --> 01:45:14,160
Speaker 6: And that's so I'm like, oh my.

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01:45:14,160 --> 01:45:15,640
Speaker 8: God, if you ever come to Virginia, I want to

2193
01:45:15,680 --> 01:45:18,360
Speaker 8: treat you to dinner. And then the third of all,

2194
01:45:19,439 --> 01:45:22,080
Speaker 8: that's sexy ass chick who says something about me because

2195
01:45:22,080 --> 01:45:24,479
Speaker 8: you know, I'm listening to my feedback show. I gotta

2196
01:45:24,479 --> 01:45:26,320
Speaker 8: go to work at six in the morning, and every

2197
01:45:26,439 --> 01:45:27,960
Speaker 8: night before I go to be I listen to my

2198
01:45:28,080 --> 01:45:30,160
Speaker 8: feedback show because I got to hit my sea back show.

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01:45:30,760 --> 01:45:34,360
Speaker 8: I don't know who that sexy as girl is, but yeah,

2200
01:45:34,760 --> 01:45:42,120
Speaker 8: I'm here for it. Walking dad Rod, Oh my god, Wednesday.

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01:45:42,160 --> 01:45:43,200
Speaker 6: Mor hit is back.

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01:45:43,560 --> 01:45:44,280
Speaker 3: He is back.

2203
01:45:44,560 --> 01:45:49,000
Speaker 8: He has to get out, and he has tissed. He

2204
01:45:49,160 --> 01:45:51,960
Speaker 8: is ready to get every black person from the sucking

2205
01:45:52,040 --> 01:45:56,080
Speaker 8: place and Richard deserves the die, and I agree with

2206
01:45:56,200 --> 01:46:00,000
Speaker 8: Queen Karen Rotherland deserves to die. Can't wait till she dies,

2207
01:46:02,320 --> 01:46:05,080
Speaker 8: Queen Karen, nothing wrong with you saying that I am

2208
01:46:05,160 --> 01:46:08,280
Speaker 8: here for it. You're hoping that she dies and we

2209
01:46:08,400 --> 01:46:12,640
Speaker 8: are in there together. I love you, guys, Karen. That

2210
01:46:13,680 --> 01:46:17,840
Speaker 8: color and your hair looks amazing. Ride you know you

2211
01:46:17,960 --> 01:46:20,880
Speaker 8: do you the ship, but you ain't the ship. But

2212
01:46:26,120 --> 01:46:29,880
Speaker 8: I'm sorry. I'm just I love you guys, and you

2213
01:46:30,000 --> 01:46:35,840
Speaker 8: guys always make me feel special. And Trump ass fucked

2214
01:46:35,880 --> 01:46:36,479
Speaker 8: up America.

2215
01:46:37,240 --> 01:46:41,160
Speaker 3: And Keenan Keenan from Kennedy.

2216
01:46:40,880 --> 01:46:47,400
Speaker 8: Call got a movie coming out, What the Black Man? Yeah,

2217
01:46:47,400 --> 01:46:49,280
Speaker 8: I just want to I need to spend more money

2218
01:46:49,280 --> 01:46:51,000
Speaker 8: on y'all because I pay my subscrision, but I don't

2219
01:46:51,000 --> 01:46:53,240
Speaker 8: even want money. I need to spend more money on y'all. Okay,

2220
01:46:53,240 --> 01:46:54,559
Speaker 8: I gotta go two fifty.

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01:46:54,439 --> 01:46:57,240
Speaker 6: Nine back, uh.

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01:46:59,280 --> 01:47:02,800
Speaker 3: Uh back. Let me see there you go.

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01:47:04,880 --> 01:47:09,040
Speaker 8: Hi, Hey, guys at Sierra At Now I'm s dragged

2224
01:47:09,080 --> 01:47:12,680
Speaker 8: with swag. There's two fifty four in the morning, it's

2225
01:47:12,720 --> 01:47:14,920
Speaker 8: three o'clock in the morning, and I'm flowing my words

2226
01:47:14,920 --> 01:47:18,000
Speaker 8: because I had two clips of sharp nay but whatever,

2227
01:47:20,680 --> 01:47:25,000
Speaker 8: I just I want to say thank you Hinds for

2228
01:47:27,520 --> 01:47:31,599
Speaker 8: allowing me to leave four voicemails, five voicemails on your

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01:47:32,200 --> 01:47:37,920
Speaker 8: answering service. You guys, come, oh on my safe space

2230
01:47:39,000 --> 01:47:42,320
Speaker 8: in this world that I'm living in, and you've been

2231
01:47:42,400 --> 01:47:45,200
Speaker 8: to Virginia. You drove into Virginia so you know how

2232
01:47:46,640 --> 01:47:49,640
Speaker 8: isolated as a blessed person you can feel. So and

2233
01:47:49,760 --> 01:47:52,000
Speaker 8: I literally work in a job while I'm the only

2234
01:47:52,120 --> 01:47:56,760
Speaker 8: bless person. I am the only black person. Shit is real,

2235
01:47:56,920 --> 01:48:00,200
Speaker 8: like I'm literally living get out. But they will not

2236
01:48:00,920 --> 01:48:03,080
Speaker 8: put any tea cups in my face because guess what

2237
01:48:03,439 --> 01:48:06,200
Speaker 8: a bitch removed all the glass were But we're not

2238
01:48:06,240 --> 01:48:07,400
Speaker 8: gonna go over the Queen Care.

2239
01:48:07,479 --> 01:48:08,200
Speaker 5: We not voll it.

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Speaker 8: But I wanted to just say I'm sorry for leaving

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01:48:14,320 --> 01:48:19,720
Speaker 8: for voicemail. But you guys, pretty much when it comes

2242
01:48:19,720 --> 01:48:22,080
Speaker 8: to down here are the only one I have to

2243
01:48:22,280 --> 01:48:26,479
Speaker 8: talk to. And you guys don't understand. I just want

2244
01:48:26,560 --> 01:48:30,639
Speaker 8: you guys to if you can take sixty seconds out

2245
01:48:30,680 --> 01:48:34,080
Speaker 8: of your week every week because you guys are fucking busy.

2246
01:48:34,800 --> 01:48:39,679
Speaker 8: Rib you are the Oprah of podcasts. Yeah, I'm gonna

2247
01:48:39,720 --> 01:48:42,240
Speaker 8: put it on a T shirt. The Black guy who

2248
01:48:42,320 --> 01:48:43,760
Speaker 8: sits is the Oprah of podcasts.

2249
01:48:44,080 --> 01:48:44,800
Speaker 5: That's what you are.

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Speaker 8: Live in it, enjoy it, embrace it, digest it, get

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01:48:49,560 --> 01:48:52,040
Speaker 8: heartburn from it, and then win back up and go

2252
01:48:52,160 --> 01:48:52,880
Speaker 8: to the party of it.

2253
01:48:53,360 --> 01:48:55,479
Speaker 3: But you are the Oprah of.

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01:48:55,560 --> 01:48:59,840
Speaker 8: Podcasts and you are a safe space for people like me.

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01:49:00,400 --> 01:49:03,360
Speaker 8: And I just want to say thank you to you.

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01:49:03,640 --> 01:49:05,799
Speaker 8: Is thank you the Queen Caaron?

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01:49:06,439 --> 01:49:07,360
Speaker 6: That laugh.

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01:49:08,760 --> 01:49:11,360
Speaker 8: Queen Karen, Queen Karen. I said, I'm gonna say any

2259
01:49:11,439 --> 01:49:15,080
Speaker 8: enport time, Queen Karon, Queen Karen, Queen Camen, that laugh

2260
01:49:15,280 --> 01:49:19,719
Speaker 8: is mine. What does Beyonce say? What is your aspiration

2261
01:49:19,880 --> 01:49:23,479
Speaker 8: in life? Queen Karen's last, That's my aspiration in life.

2262
01:49:24,280 --> 01:49:28,599
Speaker 8: But because to him and I can't wait, do y'all

2263
01:49:28,640 --> 01:49:33,679
Speaker 8: talk about the walking this ship was bad Karen Bass

2264
01:49:34,080 --> 01:49:38,000
Speaker 8: more than killing motherfucker's like he's supposed to be black rage,

2265
01:49:38,840 --> 01:49:40,560
Speaker 8: black rage. All Right, I gotta go.

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01:49:40,800 --> 01:49:42,000
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. I love you guys.

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01:49:42,040 --> 01:49:43,160
Speaker 8: I'm not going over my time of it.

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01:49:43,360 --> 01:49:45,920
Speaker 3: Bye, thank you.

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01:49:46,520 --> 01:49:50,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, Virginia is a strange place because whenever we have

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01:49:50,320 --> 01:49:52,280
Speaker 2: been on not if we've been on Virginia, you get

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01:49:52,320 --> 01:49:54,000
Speaker 2: to the line and say welcome to Virginia.

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01:49:54,040 --> 01:49:55,400
Speaker 5: You got drones watching you.

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01:49:56,000 --> 01:50:00,719
Speaker 9: I know, such a I'm drones, such an unwelcoming shoot

2274
01:50:01,320 --> 01:50:05,400
Speaker 9: shoot you off the rope. Yeah, your speed will be

2275
01:50:05,479 --> 01:50:06,599
Speaker 9: monitored by drones.

2276
01:50:06,640 --> 01:50:08,240
Speaker 3: Police will be killing niggas.

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01:50:08,439 --> 01:50:12,080
Speaker 5: So weird, right, I was like, let's get up this,

2278
01:50:12,200 --> 01:50:14,000
Speaker 5: stated Karen.

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01:50:14,640 --> 01:50:18,160
Speaker 8: Karen, Karen, Miss Karen girl.

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01:50:18,800 --> 01:50:20,400
Speaker 6: Yes, you are over here.

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01:50:20,479 --> 01:50:24,160
Speaker 8: Preaching on this Sunday's episode of The Black Guy who

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01:50:24,280 --> 01:50:29,400
Speaker 8: says talking about allyship is a verb and not a noun.

2283
01:50:29,880 --> 01:50:33,800
Speaker 8: Once again for the people in the back, allyship.

2284
01:50:33,920 --> 01:50:36,720
Speaker 6: Is a verb and not a noun.

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01:50:37,360 --> 01:50:41,360
Speaker 8: You have been speaking such truth, Karen. And I know

2286
01:50:41,520 --> 01:50:44,240
Speaker 8: that you don't believe in allyship at this point in time.

2287
01:50:44,360 --> 01:50:46,759
Speaker 8: I don't believe in that I am a particular ally

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01:50:46,840 --> 01:50:51,400
Speaker 8: as a fish gender woman. But you are really speaking

2289
01:50:51,520 --> 01:50:56,120
Speaker 8: the truth, and you allow individuals the opportunity to speak

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01:50:56,240 --> 01:51:00,120
Speaker 8: their truth by stepping aside. And I just absolutely we

2291
01:51:00,240 --> 01:51:04,760
Speaker 8: appreciate you all, like so much, so much for being

2292
01:51:05,400 --> 01:51:10,280
Speaker 8: individuals that are not just you know, just talking about

2293
01:51:10,320 --> 01:51:12,840
Speaker 8: the issues that you all actually live these issues. You

2294
01:51:12,920 --> 01:51:17,240
Speaker 8: are actually upholding the voices of these marginalized groups while

2295
01:51:17,320 --> 01:51:21,439
Speaker 8: also understanding that you have privileged yourself. And I just

2296
01:51:21,560 --> 01:51:24,360
Speaker 8: have to say, like this is my favorite podcast.

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01:51:24,720 --> 01:51:25,280
Speaker 5: Absolutely.

2298
01:51:25,400 --> 01:51:28,000
Speaker 8: I listen to a ton, I listen to a lot

2299
01:51:28,040 --> 01:51:32,320
Speaker 8: of podcasts, and this is by are the absolute best.

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01:51:33,320 --> 01:51:36,760
Speaker 8: So thank you all so much for bringing such joy

2301
01:51:36,840 --> 01:51:40,400
Speaker 8: into my life. Karen, you are absolutely beautiful, you have

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01:51:40,680 --> 01:51:44,320
Speaker 8: a radiant soul, and rod I just you are the

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01:51:44,439 --> 01:51:49,320
Speaker 8: best supporter. You are the prototype of what a phenomenal

2304
01:51:49,400 --> 01:51:52,360
Speaker 8: husband should be. So thank you guys so much. And

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01:51:52,439 --> 01:51:55,120
Speaker 8: I'm going to continue listening to this episode because you

2306
01:51:55,240 --> 01:51:58,160
Speaker 8: all are giving the tea on Shimamanda even though she's

2307
01:51:58,240 --> 01:52:02,360
Speaker 8: my Nigerian sister, she will all right. Thank you so much.

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01:52:02,600 --> 01:52:05,879
Speaker 8: To Suspee from Cleveland, Bye bye bye.

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01:52:05,920 --> 01:52:12,280
Speaker 3: Sweetie, and uh yeah, you know, we try, man, We're

2310
01:52:12,320 --> 01:52:15,680
Speaker 3: definitely not perfect. We try. Were trying to do a

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01:52:15,720 --> 01:52:16,240
Speaker 3: little something.

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01:52:16,479 --> 01:52:20,479
Speaker 2: I'm living and learning, honey, because I've come a long

2313
01:52:20,880 --> 01:52:25,040
Speaker 2: way from what I know now to what I used

2314
01:52:25,080 --> 01:52:30,680
Speaker 2: to know, challenging myself, wanting to learn more, wanting not

2315
01:52:30,840 --> 01:52:34,720
Speaker 2: to be ignorant, not to say ignorant shit, you know.

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01:52:35,520 --> 01:52:38,080
Speaker 5: Uh, and it's just a process and.

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01:52:38,840 --> 01:52:43,920
Speaker 2: Just even knowing that you are going to say ignorant

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01:52:43,920 --> 01:52:48,600
Speaker 2: shit sometimes, but willing to put your pride to the

2319
01:52:48,720 --> 01:52:51,640
Speaker 2: side to say, okay, I hear you, and I understand,

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01:52:51,760 --> 01:52:54,479
Speaker 2: and I will do better moving forward. I think that's

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01:52:54,479 --> 01:52:56,320
Speaker 2: a lot of times the problem people come out and

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01:52:56,400 --> 01:52:58,720
Speaker 2: that they say ignorant ship then when they're challenged on it,

2323
01:52:58,760 --> 01:53:01,479
Speaker 2: instead of them going, you know what, you're right, especially

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01:53:01,520 --> 01:53:04,600
Speaker 2: if people are willing to come have a nuanced conversation

2325
01:53:04,760 --> 01:53:07,280
Speaker 2: with you, like when we were talking to resign this,

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01:53:07,439 --> 01:53:09,160
Speaker 2: but you were saying a lot of that nuance is gone.

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01:53:09,160 --> 01:53:11,360
Speaker 2: People don't want to do that. It's either you got

2328
01:53:11,439 --> 01:53:13,680
Speaker 2: to go hard and you go okay. I understand that,

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01:53:13,880 --> 01:53:16,759
Speaker 2: but there is always in most things that's in middle ground.

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01:53:16,800 --> 01:53:19,040
Speaker 2: People don't want the middle ground either high or low

2331
01:53:19,120 --> 01:53:19,840
Speaker 2: or hot to cold.

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01:53:20,479 --> 01:53:26,080
Speaker 5: And I think that growing helps you articulate better to

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01:53:26,160 --> 01:53:26,639
Speaker 5: other people.

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01:53:27,080 --> 01:53:30,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think part of this is just you gotta

2335
01:53:31,000 --> 01:53:32,360
Speaker 3: in a way, you just got to know what you

2336
01:53:32,439 --> 01:53:32,760
Speaker 3: don't know.

2337
01:53:33,120 --> 01:53:35,240
Speaker 4: Like I don't know everything, and I definitely don't know

2338
01:53:36,280 --> 01:53:37,599
Speaker 4: other people's lives and shit.

2339
01:53:37,760 --> 01:53:43,080
Speaker 3: But it doesn't seem that difficult to believe people on

2340
01:53:43,400 --> 01:53:44,680
Speaker 3: a lot of this stuff, you know.

2341
01:53:44,880 --> 01:53:48,439
Speaker 4: Like and that's gonna be diversity of voices, like there's

2342
01:53:48,479 --> 01:53:51,360
Speaker 4: black you know, Like the person said, well what about earlier,

2343
01:53:51,479 --> 01:53:55,000
Speaker 4: Like well what about trans people that are like trans

2344
01:53:55,080 --> 01:53:55,640
Speaker 4: woman is.

2345
01:53:55,760 --> 01:53:59,040
Speaker 3: Separate from just being a woman, and I don't want

2346
01:53:59,080 --> 01:54:00,960
Speaker 3: to be in that group. And I'm not a woman.

2347
01:54:01,000 --> 01:54:03,479
Speaker 4: I'm a trans woman. Like I said, I haven't run

2348
01:54:03,520 --> 01:54:07,680
Speaker 4: across them. But you know, that's one way of approaching it.

2349
01:54:08,360 --> 01:54:10,640
Speaker 4: I'd be willing to listen to someone who said that.

2350
01:54:10,880 --> 01:54:14,360
Speaker 4: I mean, it's not my experience to tell them how

2351
01:54:14,400 --> 01:54:17,120
Speaker 4: to feel. But the same way that I'm sure in

2352
01:54:17,240 --> 01:54:20,160
Speaker 4: every group that's diversity, there's black people that over Republican

2353
01:54:20,320 --> 01:54:23,080
Speaker 4: and black people that agree with a lot of shit

2354
01:54:23,120 --> 01:54:26,280
Speaker 4: that's anti black, you know, but they don't speak for

2355
01:54:26,400 --> 01:54:29,280
Speaker 4: the typical experience of what it is to be black

2356
01:54:29,320 --> 01:54:33,360
Speaker 4: in this country, you know. So you know, it doesn't

2357
01:54:33,400 --> 01:54:38,400
Speaker 4: cost me anything to believe somebody should be treated equal

2358
01:54:38,920 --> 01:54:42,040
Speaker 4: or at least have their voice or it just it

2359
01:54:42,160 --> 01:54:46,280
Speaker 4: always seems like people feel like it's an attack on

2360
01:54:46,440 --> 01:54:50,200
Speaker 4: something for someone to want to be included, you know.

2361
01:54:50,360 --> 01:54:53,000
Speaker 4: And I guess in a way, maybe that's what privilege

2362
01:54:53,080 --> 01:54:55,880
Speaker 4: is is, Oh, I have to give up space for

2363
01:54:56,000 --> 01:54:59,200
Speaker 4: this other thing, so it's an attack on me because

2364
01:54:59,240 --> 01:55:01,400
Speaker 4: as far as I'm just learn, all this space belongs

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01:55:01,440 --> 01:55:05,480
Speaker 4: to me, So anything outside of that is attacking my space,

2366
01:55:05,560 --> 01:55:07,760
Speaker 4: you know. And I think that's how white people look

2367
01:55:07,840 --> 01:55:12,520
Speaker 4: at Oscar so white, and that's how you know, that's

2368
01:55:12,560 --> 01:55:18,360
Speaker 4: how people look at the Democratic Party when black people say, well, no, no, no,

2369
01:55:18,440 --> 01:55:21,880
Speaker 4: our needs aren't being met, you know. And then within

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01:55:21,960 --> 01:55:24,280
Speaker 4: all that, you still just have a diversity of voices

2371
01:55:24,280 --> 01:55:27,440
Speaker 4: in blackness that you know, argue back and forth too.

2372
01:55:27,600 --> 01:55:29,960
Speaker 3: Is never a clear cut one hundred percent one thing

2373
01:55:30,080 --> 01:55:31,400
Speaker 3: or the other. But it just seems like.

2374
01:55:33,600 --> 01:55:38,240
Speaker 4: It's harmless to listen or to at least say, this

2375
01:55:38,400 --> 01:55:40,320
Speaker 4: is what this person is saying. I don't need to

2376
01:55:40,360 --> 01:55:43,320
Speaker 4: fight them about it. It really wouldn't enhance my life

2377
01:55:43,600 --> 01:55:48,040
Speaker 4: in any way to to say trans women are not

2378
01:55:48,880 --> 01:55:52,560
Speaker 4: women and trans men are not men. That does nothing

2379
01:55:52,640 --> 01:55:55,240
Speaker 4: to help my life anyway, you know what I mean,

2380
01:55:55,360 --> 01:55:58,280
Speaker 4: And vice versa, it doesn't. The only thing the opposite

2381
01:55:58,400 --> 01:56:01,960
Speaker 4: does is just kind of enhance the idea of like

2382
01:56:02,680 --> 01:56:05,560
Speaker 4: what humanity and what gender and thing and all these

2383
01:56:05,640 --> 01:56:08,280
Speaker 4: labels and boxes we put on ourselves. Like that what

2384
01:56:08,920 --> 01:56:10,680
Speaker 4: taking people out of those boxes and the freedom that

2385
01:56:10,720 --> 01:56:13,120
Speaker 4: can mean for people. But other than that, you know,

2386
01:56:13,240 --> 01:56:15,400
Speaker 4: it doesn't like it's not gonna change the way I

2387
01:56:15,440 --> 01:56:18,440
Speaker 4: get paid. It's not a change my car need to

2388
01:56:18,480 --> 01:56:20,280
Speaker 4: go to the shop. Like it's not gonna change anything

2389
01:56:20,360 --> 01:56:23,280
Speaker 4: in my life. It's just people fight change very hard,

2390
01:56:24,600 --> 01:56:25,760
Speaker 4: all right, next us ma'am.

2391
01:56:27,560 --> 01:56:31,920
Speaker 10: Hey guys, this is Sierra aka Moms at Mom's Dread

2392
01:56:32,000 --> 01:56:34,320
Speaker 10: with Sweat. I just wanted to give you guys a

2393
01:56:34,440 --> 01:56:39,200
Speaker 10: call just to let you know Ron that my heart

2394
01:56:39,280 --> 01:56:43,080
Speaker 10: goes out to that woman and Charlotte who was victimized

2395
01:56:43,520 --> 01:56:47,480
Speaker 10: by that Asian person at the hair store. And I

2396
01:56:47,640 --> 01:56:50,680
Speaker 10: just want to let Quean Karon know I completely agree

2397
01:56:50,720 --> 01:56:53,360
Speaker 10: with her. This is not the first time this has happened.

2398
01:56:53,600 --> 01:56:56,920
Speaker 10: And dig this it doesn't just happen at the hair store.

2399
01:56:57,480 --> 01:57:01,080
Speaker 10: I was seventeen years old getting my nail done. I

2400
01:57:01,200 --> 01:57:03,880
Speaker 10: had They had took so long to get my nails

2401
01:57:03,960 --> 01:57:06,440
Speaker 10: done that I didn't even get finished my set, my

2402
01:57:06,600 --> 01:57:09,800
Speaker 10: fool set to get done. And I paid the land

2403
01:57:09,880 --> 01:57:12,080
Speaker 10: twenty dollars and said I need to go because I

2404
01:57:12,400 --> 01:57:13,000
Speaker 10: was late to work.

2405
01:57:13,080 --> 01:57:13,640
Speaker 2: I had to go.

2406
01:57:14,320 --> 01:57:18,200
Speaker 10: This man barricaded me after I gave him the twenty dollars.

2407
01:57:18,520 --> 01:57:21,600
Speaker 10: This man barricaded me on the store, put his hand

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01:57:21,640 --> 01:57:24,120
Speaker 10: in front of me, refusing me to leave, and started

2409
01:57:24,320 --> 01:57:27,440
Speaker 10: hitting me in my head. I was seventeen years old,

2410
01:57:27,720 --> 01:57:30,760
Speaker 10: hitting him, hitting me in my head. He took his

2411
01:57:30,960 --> 01:57:33,680
Speaker 10: wife and two of the other black women, and the

2412
01:57:33,800 --> 01:57:36,520
Speaker 10: neils are line said, YO, get the fuck off of her.

2413
01:57:36,840 --> 01:57:39,080
Speaker 10: Get the fuck off of her. She fucking paid you,

2414
01:57:39,440 --> 01:57:41,800
Speaker 10: get the fuck off of her to allow me to leave.

2415
01:57:42,120 --> 01:57:44,680
Speaker 10: No my full set at that time, I was only

2416
01:57:44,800 --> 01:57:48,040
Speaker 10: gonna be about eighteen dollars. I paid him twenty. Then

2417
01:57:48,120 --> 01:57:50,280
Speaker 10: I gave him a tick. And because he didn't get

2418
01:57:50,280 --> 01:57:51,920
Speaker 10: to finish my nails, because I was supposed to get

2419
01:57:51,960 --> 01:57:53,760
Speaker 10: designs and all this shit, and I couldn't give him

2420
01:57:53,800 --> 01:57:55,600
Speaker 10: more money because it would have probably been out for

2421
01:57:55,720 --> 01:57:58,680
Speaker 10: thirty dollars, I gave him what he what I told him,

2422
01:57:58,920 --> 01:58:03,600
Speaker 10: which was twenty, and he literally consistent was started pulling

2423
01:58:03,680 --> 01:58:05,960
Speaker 10: my hair, beating on me and trying to stop me

2424
01:58:06,080 --> 01:58:09,320
Speaker 10: from leaving, like I was feeling from hell. And I

2425
01:58:09,440 --> 01:58:12,600
Speaker 10: didn't report it. I didn't report it. I pulled my hair, batman,

2426
01:58:12,680 --> 01:58:14,360
Speaker 10: my pont me sell and I took my ass forward

2427
01:58:14,600 --> 01:58:15,640
Speaker 10: and I didn't report it.

2428
01:58:15,960 --> 01:58:18,000
Speaker 8: But from that day I knew that.

2429
01:58:18,080 --> 01:58:20,440
Speaker 10: These owners of these Chinese stores, these hairy stories, and

2430
01:58:20,520 --> 01:58:23,360
Speaker 10: these fucking mouth lines, don't give a shit about us.

2431
01:58:23,640 --> 01:58:27,480
Speaker 10: They profits from us. They fucking lotion and taint. I told,

2432
01:58:27,560 --> 01:58:30,480
Speaker 10: but they don't give a shit about us at all,

2433
01:58:30,840 --> 01:58:33,040
Speaker 10: and it's fucked up. And for that, it's the reason

2434
01:58:33,040 --> 01:58:35,240
Speaker 10: why I'm natural. That's the reason why I don't get

2435
01:58:35,280 --> 01:58:37,280
Speaker 10: my nails done, and that's the reason why I don't

2436
01:58:37,280 --> 01:58:40,320
Speaker 10: support any fucking hair stories in my community. That's why

2437
01:58:40,400 --> 01:58:42,080
Speaker 10: because they don't do shit for us and they don't

2438
01:58:42,120 --> 01:58:43,000
Speaker 10: give a fuck about us.

2439
01:58:43,200 --> 01:58:43,920
Speaker 8: It's a hair store.

2440
01:58:44,400 --> 01:58:47,280
Speaker 10: I've gone in several times and they still look at

2441
01:58:47,320 --> 01:58:49,280
Speaker 10: me like I'm about to steal. So fuck y'all.

2442
01:58:49,720 --> 01:58:50,400
Speaker 5: They don't get no.

2443
01:58:50,480 --> 01:58:55,920
Speaker 10: Money from me. I'm sorry. I just counted your fucking right.

2444
01:58:56,080 --> 01:58:57,640
Speaker 10: And the problem is this shit has been going on

2445
01:58:57,800 --> 01:58:59,320
Speaker 10: all across the fucking country in the.

2446
01:58:59,360 --> 01:59:00,320
Speaker 6: Hoods of us.

2447
01:59:00,400 --> 01:59:01,920
Speaker 10: As black women, we don't say nothing.

2448
01:59:02,120 --> 01:59:03,839
Speaker 6: Shop supporting these Asians.

2449
01:59:04,320 --> 01:59:07,160
Speaker 10: Stop supporting their answers. And that's not no racism shit.

2450
01:59:07,240 --> 01:59:07,920
Speaker 8: That was real shit.

2451
01:59:08,040 --> 01:59:11,760
Speaker 10: Stop supporting people that don't fuck about us. I'm sorry,

2452
01:59:12,520 --> 01:59:13,240
Speaker 10: I have a great day.

2453
01:59:14,280 --> 01:59:19,720
Speaker 4: No, First of all, you don't need to apologize, uh,

2454
01:59:20,440 --> 01:59:23,440
Speaker 4: like I think, Uh, there's a I was listening to

2455
01:59:23,520 --> 01:59:25,920
Speaker 4: Karen the other day when she had an issue at work,

2456
01:59:26,600 --> 01:59:27,880
Speaker 4: and I asked her what.

2457
01:59:28,080 --> 01:59:30,000
Speaker 3: Was wrong, and we were because we were eating lunch,

2458
01:59:30,120 --> 01:59:32,440
Speaker 3: and then she just like I sweel.

2459
01:59:32,480 --> 01:59:34,360
Speaker 4: I feel like fty percent of the conversation was just

2460
01:59:34,400 --> 01:59:37,200
Speaker 4: car going I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry but this,

2461
01:59:37,440 --> 01:59:37,880
Speaker 4: I'm sorry.

2462
01:59:37,920 --> 01:59:38,120
Speaker 2: With that.

2463
01:59:38,760 --> 01:59:42,760
Speaker 4: Women be apologizing for shit that, y'all, it's just communication.

2464
01:59:43,040 --> 01:59:47,880
Speaker 4: Like it's like, apologize for taking up space, especially black women.

2465
01:59:47,920 --> 01:59:52,200
Speaker 4: Apologize getting too angry, apologize or laughing too loud, apologize

2466
01:59:52,200 --> 01:59:54,640
Speaker 4: for being too happy, apologize being too sad.

2467
01:59:56,080 --> 01:59:59,040
Speaker 3: And I know that the world like under cuts.

2468
01:59:58,880 --> 02:00:02,400
Speaker 4: And undervalue and like constantly like pushes people down to

2469
02:00:02,480 --> 02:00:04,280
Speaker 4: be like you're taking.

2470
02:00:04,120 --> 02:00:06,680
Speaker 3: Up to space. Be small too much space, be smaller.

2471
02:00:06,800 --> 02:00:12,080
Speaker 4: You know, I can't imagine any efficiency costs even at work,

2472
02:00:12,240 --> 02:00:15,240
Speaker 4: not just even the cost some people's humanity of constantly

2473
02:00:15,320 --> 02:00:17,920
Speaker 4: trying to smush yourself down so that people won't be

2474
02:00:18,040 --> 02:00:20,120
Speaker 4: intimidated or whatever.

2475
02:00:20,280 --> 02:00:23,360
Speaker 3: But if you're angry, you're a human being. Being angry.

2476
02:00:23,400 --> 02:00:24,360
Speaker 3: It is part of being angry.

2477
02:00:24,440 --> 02:00:26,720
Speaker 4: It's not like as a guy, I have to be

2478
02:00:26,920 --> 02:00:30,720
Speaker 4: like if a motherfucker hit me and my motherfucking head

2479
02:00:31,520 --> 02:00:36,080
Speaker 4: over some goddamn nails, if I'm mad, I ain't apologize

2480
02:00:36,120 --> 02:00:36,640
Speaker 4: for being mad.

2481
02:00:36,720 --> 02:00:39,560
Speaker 3: I deserve to be. Every time I think of that shit,

2482
02:00:39,960 --> 02:00:41,120
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be mad.

2483
02:00:41,440 --> 02:00:44,520
Speaker 4: Like, and anyone that would expect less of you is

2484
02:00:45,280 --> 02:00:47,880
Speaker 4: not a human beings like that person's fucked up, not you.

2485
02:00:49,600 --> 02:00:51,720
Speaker 4: So yeah, there's no need to apologize for that shit.

2486
02:00:51,840 --> 02:00:56,240
Speaker 4: There's no need to apologize for uh. You know, we

2487
02:00:56,400 --> 02:00:58,280
Speaker 4: have guests on the show Women all the time, and

2488
02:00:58,960 --> 02:01:04,680
Speaker 4: they'll apologize for talking too long or pontificating and shit,

2489
02:01:04,720 --> 02:01:06,640
Speaker 4: and it's something that men never have to do. There's

2490
02:01:07,080 --> 02:01:10,320
Speaker 4: women podcast Like one reason I like listening to certain

2491
02:01:10,360 --> 02:01:14,800
Speaker 4: podcasts that led by women, specifically black women, women of

2492
02:01:14,880 --> 02:01:16,400
Speaker 4: color and shit a lot of times because it's a

2493
02:01:16,480 --> 02:01:22,600
Speaker 4: place where women are apologizing. It's like, yeah, two women

2494
02:01:22,640 --> 02:01:24,360
Speaker 4: are talking to each other and they don't need to

2495
02:01:24,520 --> 02:01:26,360
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, you're sorry, I'm sorry, We're sorry.

2496
02:01:27,000 --> 02:01:28,800
Speaker 3: Just they can have a conversation.

2497
02:01:28,400 --> 02:01:31,680
Speaker 4: Without having to worry about you know, how is this

2498
02:01:31,800 --> 02:01:33,640
Speaker 4: gonna make the ego of the person hearing it?

2499
02:01:33,680 --> 02:01:33,800
Speaker 3: Now.

2500
02:01:33,800 --> 02:01:36,520
Speaker 4: I'm not saying women don't do this to each other. Obviously,

2501
02:01:36,680 --> 02:01:39,920
Speaker 4: it's societal and misogony is in everybody and it will

2502
02:01:40,000 --> 02:01:42,920
Speaker 4: definitely even if in a room by yourself, probably in

2503
02:01:42,960 --> 02:01:44,960
Speaker 4: your brain you think I'm sorry if you go on

2504
02:01:45,120 --> 02:01:46,720
Speaker 4: too long like it's not this.

2505
02:01:46,840 --> 02:01:49,120
Speaker 3: Isn't even blaming women or anything for that.

2506
02:01:49,240 --> 02:01:52,520
Speaker 4: I think society is are faart for this period and

2507
02:01:52,680 --> 02:01:56,000
Speaker 4: a lot of people's egos need to be massaged to

2508
02:01:56,160 --> 02:01:59,920
Speaker 4: hear a woman, to hear a woman, essentially to listen

2509
02:02:00,160 --> 02:02:03,040
Speaker 4: to and here a woman. It's like, well, I'm gonna

2510
02:02:03,080 --> 02:02:06,320
Speaker 4: need you to make me feel better about you talking,

2511
02:02:06,640 --> 02:02:08,680
Speaker 4: because what I don't need is you giving an opinion

2512
02:02:08,760 --> 02:02:13,720
Speaker 4: without first qualifying as shit fifty seven different ways. But yeah,

2513
02:02:13,960 --> 02:02:17,160
Speaker 4: don't you don't have to be sorry about that at all,

2514
02:02:17,320 --> 02:02:21,520
Speaker 4: And I mean maybe it helps, it doesn't help at all,

2515
02:02:21,680 --> 02:02:24,640
Speaker 4: but you know, same thing with caarm I feel like

2516
02:02:24,720 --> 02:02:26,960
Speaker 4: half our conversation is me being like, Karen, you don't

2517
02:02:27,000 --> 02:02:29,160
Speaker 4: have to apologize for that, or no, it's cool, don't

2518
02:02:29,200 --> 02:02:31,520
Speaker 4: be sorry about this because it's you know, I'm sorry this,

2519
02:02:31,720 --> 02:02:36,600
Speaker 4: I'm sorry that, you know, you know if I literally

2520
02:02:36,720 --> 02:02:39,440
Speaker 4: I asked Karen how her day was and how work was,

2521
02:02:39,800 --> 02:02:42,120
Speaker 4: because I knew she looked frustrated getting out the car,

2522
02:02:42,960 --> 02:02:46,280
Speaker 4: and she was still apologizing while answering the question that

2523
02:02:46,360 --> 02:02:48,600
Speaker 4: I wanted to know the answer to. You know, so

2524
02:02:48,800 --> 02:02:52,240
Speaker 4: even just an efficiency sake through communication. It's just it

2525
02:02:52,320 --> 02:02:54,200
Speaker 4: takes up a lot of time. It takes up more

2526
02:02:54,280 --> 02:02:57,760
Speaker 4: time to apologize before just saying what happened.

2527
02:02:58,200 --> 02:03:00,720
Speaker 3: And it's not something I would ever do. You know,

2528
02:03:00,880 --> 02:03:02,320
Speaker 3: I would never feel the need if you.

2529
02:03:02,440 --> 02:03:04,960
Speaker 4: Asked me some shit and some shit was wrong, I

2530
02:03:05,000 --> 02:03:07,080
Speaker 4: ain't about to tell you I'm sorry for the ship

2531
02:03:07,240 --> 02:03:11,520
Speaker 4: like you asked. Like it's a trusting and I think

2532
02:03:11,640 --> 02:03:15,040
Speaker 4: the implication is women have been taught that no matter.

2533
02:03:14,960 --> 02:03:17,600
Speaker 3: What people say, to not trust the fact that they

2534
02:03:17,760 --> 02:03:20,160
Speaker 3: genuinely value and care about what they have to say,

2535
02:03:20,640 --> 02:03:24,320
Speaker 3: and that they really do mean it when they say, yes,

2536
02:03:24,440 --> 02:03:27,280
Speaker 3: what is it? What do you you know? Like, please

2537
02:03:27,360 --> 02:03:31,280
Speaker 3: tell me? It's like, yeah, but what do you really mean?

2538
02:03:31,400 --> 02:03:34,120
Speaker 5: Yeah? Are you gonna man explain to me? Yeah? But

2539
02:03:34,360 --> 02:03:36,600
Speaker 5: are you gonna dismiss what I say? Yeah? But are

2540
02:03:36,640 --> 02:03:37,560
Speaker 5: you gonna talk over me?

2541
02:03:37,680 --> 02:03:40,560
Speaker 2: Yeah? But you're gonna literally let me get my whole

2542
02:03:40,640 --> 02:03:43,240
Speaker 2: thought process out, you know, because it's one of the

2543
02:03:43,320 --> 02:03:46,680
Speaker 2: things besal it's straight men that they're they're taught as

2544
02:03:46,720 --> 02:03:49,200
Speaker 2: little boys to solve problems. They're not taught to listen

2545
02:03:49,360 --> 02:03:52,080
Speaker 2: very well at all, and something that grown men need

2546
02:03:52,160 --> 02:03:57,000
Speaker 2: to understand. Grown straight men need to understand me being

2547
02:03:57,120 --> 02:04:01,080
Speaker 2: married to one is that a lot of time men

2548
02:04:01,280 --> 02:04:05,200
Speaker 2: don't listen. Sometimes a woman don't want you to really

2549
02:04:05,280 --> 02:04:09,840
Speaker 2: solve the problem. And that's something that's very that's weird

2550
02:04:09,920 --> 02:04:12,440
Speaker 2: to men. You tell me something, let's solve it, let's

2551
02:04:12,520 --> 02:04:14,200
Speaker 2: fix it. Here's my answer.

2552
02:04:14,480 --> 02:04:16,800
Speaker 5: Let's go No, no, no, no no. I don't need

2553
02:04:16,880 --> 02:04:18,680
Speaker 5: you to solve it. I just want to talk to you.

2554
02:04:19,080 --> 02:04:23,960
Speaker 2: I just won't talk out loud because everybody but like this,

2555
02:04:24,120 --> 02:04:28,120
Speaker 2: I realize everybody gets to solutions differently. Some people get

2556
02:04:28,160 --> 02:04:31,080
Speaker 2: to that solution by sitting and internalized it that some

2557
02:04:31,200 --> 02:04:36,920
Speaker 2: people talk out loud and talking out loud and they

2558
02:04:37,040 --> 02:04:40,960
Speaker 2: can hit themselves and get their thought process out and go, okay,

2559
02:04:41,040 --> 02:04:42,080
Speaker 2: this is what I've decided to do.

2560
02:04:42,760 --> 02:04:44,080
Speaker 5: And a lot of times she.

2561
02:04:44,120 --> 02:04:47,360
Speaker 2: Don't even mind your input. But your input should not

2562
02:04:47,480 --> 02:04:49,720
Speaker 2: be man's plaining. And you feel a lot of times

2563
02:04:49,760 --> 02:04:51,920
Speaker 2: you feel like you're not man'splaining. But when you come

2564
02:04:51,960 --> 02:04:53,800
Speaker 2: in and be like, well this is what you should do,

2565
02:04:54,960 --> 02:04:57,920
Speaker 2: quote unquote your dog listen to her and she feel

2566
02:04:57,960 --> 02:05:01,120
Speaker 2: like you're men explaining to her. A lot times, it's

2567
02:05:01,160 --> 02:05:04,960
Speaker 2: okay to challenge, it's okay to want it evolve in

2568
02:05:05,120 --> 02:05:07,480
Speaker 2: things like that, but it's a proper way to talk

2569
02:05:07,600 --> 02:05:12,320
Speaker 2: to somebody when, particularly everywhere else they've had to fight

2570
02:05:12,520 --> 02:05:14,840
Speaker 2: the one person you don't want to fight as your mate.

2571
02:05:15,320 --> 02:05:19,440
Speaker 4: I just feel like people think, well, two things right. One,

2572
02:05:19,520 --> 02:05:21,880
Speaker 4: I think women are just taught to not be too much.

2573
02:05:22,880 --> 02:05:25,120
Speaker 4: Like the worst thing, the worst thing a woman can

2574
02:05:25,160 --> 02:05:28,080
Speaker 4: be is too much of anything, whether it's a size,

2575
02:05:28,280 --> 02:05:32,520
Speaker 4: whether it's boisterous, whether it's happy, whereas whether it's opinionated,

2576
02:05:32,680 --> 02:05:35,960
Speaker 4: whether it's talkative, whatever. And these are the same things

2577
02:05:36,000 --> 02:05:41,320
Speaker 4: we reward most men for. You know, being opinionated, you're

2578
02:05:41,320 --> 02:05:45,120
Speaker 4: a boss. Being opinionated a woman, you're a bitch, you know,

2579
02:05:45,440 --> 02:05:47,800
Speaker 4: being outgoing.

2580
02:05:47,400 --> 02:05:51,760
Speaker 3: And boisterous or what not. As a as a man,

2581
02:05:52,160 --> 02:05:54,560
Speaker 3: you know, it's different being a being a big dude,

2582
02:05:54,760 --> 02:05:56,880
Speaker 3: is a big guy, I won't I like me a

2583
02:05:56,960 --> 02:05:59,440
Speaker 3: big guy. Being a big woman, Oh you fat?

2584
02:05:59,520 --> 02:06:01,960
Speaker 4: Oh she's too big, even if it's like Serena Wimen,

2585
02:06:03,080 --> 02:06:05,080
Speaker 4: just too much of it. It's everything for women, just

2586
02:06:05,160 --> 02:06:07,880
Speaker 4: don't be too much. And that seems to be just

2587
02:06:08,040 --> 02:06:10,480
Speaker 4: drilled down, down, down down down into the core of

2588
02:06:10,520 --> 02:06:14,200
Speaker 4: every woman's being or many women's being, and even undoing

2589
02:06:14,280 --> 02:06:16,800
Speaker 4: that I'm sure it's just like a fucking piece of work.

2590
02:06:16,880 --> 02:06:19,760
Speaker 4: And you know, I like, it's just I have a

2591
02:06:19,840 --> 02:06:23,800
Speaker 4: lot of most of my friends are women, most but

2592
02:06:24,040 --> 02:06:26,400
Speaker 4: but I still have you know, a good amount of

2593
02:06:26,440 --> 02:06:27,160
Speaker 4: friends that are guys.

2594
02:06:27,520 --> 02:06:31,800
Speaker 3: The conversations are just different. And and I say this as.

2595
02:06:31,720 --> 02:06:34,920
Speaker 4: Someone who tries to be mindful of not like I'm

2596
02:06:34,920 --> 02:06:37,200
Speaker 4: gonna speak over this woman or shut up, it's my

2597
02:06:37,320 --> 02:06:39,240
Speaker 4: turn to talk. Let me solve your problem for you,

2598
02:06:39,680 --> 02:06:41,720
Speaker 4: Like I try to be mindful of not being that

2599
02:06:41,880 --> 02:06:44,840
Speaker 4: kind of guy, but I think the expectation is still

2600
02:06:44,880 --> 02:06:48,120
Speaker 4: there because that's just how society is. And I and

2601
02:06:48,480 --> 02:06:51,840
Speaker 4: the second thing I was gonna say is I don't

2602
02:06:51,880 --> 02:06:57,040
Speaker 4: even think it's necessarily men actively seeking to do this

2603
02:06:57,200 --> 02:07:02,120
Speaker 4: to women, right, I think honestly everybody does it to

2604
02:07:02,200 --> 02:07:04,520
Speaker 4: women because something coming from a woman is of lesser

2605
02:07:04,600 --> 02:07:08,080
Speaker 4: value to most people, even other women. Like how many

2606
02:07:08,200 --> 02:07:12,760
Speaker 4: like how many women seek relationship advice from men even

2607
02:07:12,760 --> 02:07:13,320
Speaker 4: when those.

2608
02:07:13,160 --> 02:07:15,280
Speaker 3: Men ain't shit? Now you know what I mean?

2609
02:07:15,440 --> 02:07:18,600
Speaker 4: Like how many women will ask a dude it's a friend,

2610
02:07:18,680 --> 02:07:20,760
Speaker 4: and that even that dude, you know that dude ain't

2611
02:07:20,760 --> 02:07:23,240
Speaker 4: worth for damn. But it's like I couldn't possibly have

2612
02:07:23,400 --> 02:07:26,520
Speaker 4: the solution for what, like, my feelings can't be valid.

2613
02:07:26,600 --> 02:07:28,680
Speaker 4: I obviously need some man to look at this quote

2614
02:07:28,720 --> 02:07:32,320
Speaker 4: unquote objectively or tyree, somebody that doesn't have his whole

2615
02:07:32,360 --> 02:07:32,840
Speaker 4: life together.

2616
02:07:32,880 --> 02:07:34,320
Speaker 3: He can write a fucking relationship book.

2617
02:07:34,520 --> 02:07:37,120
Speaker 4: Steve Harvey can write a relationship book and women will

2618
02:07:37,160 --> 02:07:39,520
Speaker 4: buy it because it's and I feel like women buy

2619
02:07:39,560 --> 02:07:42,480
Speaker 4: it not because of I just need to support this man.

2620
02:07:42,560 --> 02:07:45,720
Speaker 4: I really think women buy it because society is always

2621
02:07:45,800 --> 02:07:47,800
Speaker 4: being like, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

2622
02:07:48,040 --> 02:07:49,520
Speaker 3: What you need to do is find a man that's

2623
02:07:49,560 --> 02:07:51,320
Speaker 3: willing to tell you the answer and then do what

2624
02:07:51,440 --> 02:07:52,200
Speaker 3: the fuck he says.

2625
02:07:52,800 --> 02:07:55,760
Speaker 4: And you drill that down on enough people, you know,

2626
02:07:55,920 --> 02:07:59,840
Speaker 4: whether it's through church, politics, your office. You look at

2627
02:07:59,880 --> 02:08:03,560
Speaker 4: the people in the upper echelon, it's mostly men. I

2628
02:08:03,720 --> 02:08:07,000
Speaker 4: just think that ship is just drilled down into women constantly.

2629
02:08:07,560 --> 02:08:09,920
Speaker 4: All that being said, I like to have a show

2630
02:08:09,960 --> 02:08:13,760
Speaker 4: where we don't have to have women calling and apologize

2631
02:08:13,800 --> 02:08:16,680
Speaker 4: for being women. Essentially, we don't have guys giving their

2632
02:08:16,760 --> 02:08:20,600
Speaker 4: opinions very often with the i'm sorry qualifiers, maybe a

2633
02:08:20,680 --> 02:08:22,560
Speaker 4: couple of i'm sorry for going on too long, and

2634
02:08:22,640 --> 02:08:26,160
Speaker 4: then they write and go on too long, right, I mean, I.

2635
02:08:26,200 --> 02:08:28,840
Speaker 3: Mean it's the truth. Yeah, I'm not trying to be mean,

2636
02:08:28,960 --> 02:08:29,760
Speaker 3: but that's the truth.

2637
02:08:29,880 --> 02:08:32,080
Speaker 4: Like, there's a lot of dudes that are also I

2638
02:08:32,120 --> 02:08:33,480
Speaker 4: don't want to go on too long, and then I

2639
02:08:33,680 --> 02:08:35,960
Speaker 4: keep reading us four more paragraphs. Why because dudes don't

2640
02:08:35,960 --> 02:08:38,760
Speaker 4: give a fuck, Like it's more important that I get

2641
02:08:38,840 --> 02:08:44,880
Speaker 4: my ship out than vice versa. And see you just

2642
02:08:44,960 --> 02:08:47,400
Speaker 4: did it right there. We do a podcast, will you

2643
02:08:47,600 --> 02:08:49,760
Speaker 4: talk and I talk? There's only two of us here.

2644
02:08:50,080 --> 02:08:54,040
Speaker 4: You should be talking, you know, like we like it's

2645
02:08:54,080 --> 02:08:57,000
Speaker 4: a conversation. If you have something to say, you want

2646
02:08:57,040 --> 02:08:59,040
Speaker 4: to say it. You just top in the same thing

2647
02:08:59,080 --> 02:09:02,959
Speaker 4: with you know, I love ray Sonnie. We invite ray Sonny.

2648
02:09:02,760 --> 02:09:03,560
Speaker 3: On because we love her.

2649
02:09:03,640 --> 02:09:06,560
Speaker 4: She'll give a long opinion and half the opinion is

2650
02:09:06,600 --> 02:09:08,280
Speaker 4: like I'm sorry and I know this, and I'm sorry,

2651
02:09:08,320 --> 02:09:08,920
Speaker 4: I don't even do this.

2652
02:09:09,000 --> 02:09:12,320
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. I'm like, you like this what we want?

2653
02:09:13,280 --> 02:09:16,000
Speaker 3: Like if we find you to be brilliant and fascinating

2654
02:09:16,000 --> 02:09:17,520
Speaker 3: and funny and entertaining.

2655
02:09:17,920 --> 02:09:18,600
Speaker 5: Please talk.

2656
02:09:18,920 --> 02:09:21,400
Speaker 4: I talk every day on the show. Take some time,

2657
02:09:21,520 --> 02:09:23,920
Speaker 4: do what you want to do. So, yeah, it's amazing.

2658
02:09:23,960 --> 02:09:26,720
Speaker 4: It's graining because like you start talking and I'm gonna

2659
02:09:26,720 --> 02:09:29,920
Speaker 4: stop talking, because that's the natural flow of a conversation,

2660
02:09:30,080 --> 02:09:33,920
Speaker 4: but for a woman, it's it mostly is I'm sorry,

2661
02:09:34,120 --> 02:09:36,400
Speaker 4: you know, but go ahead please.

2662
02:09:36,560 --> 02:09:42,920
Speaker 2: I was going to say, not all women, but as

2663
02:09:43,080 --> 02:09:48,000
Speaker 2: women get older and I realize I haven't fully gotten

2664
02:09:48,120 --> 02:09:50,720
Speaker 2: there yet, But the closer I get the.

2665
02:09:50,920 --> 02:09:53,800
Speaker 5: Forty, my fucks leave me.

2666
02:09:54,280 --> 02:09:56,760
Speaker 2: And when I say that, I mean, like, actually just

2667
02:09:57,480 --> 02:10:03,480
Speaker 2: caring about how I'm and people's view about my life

2668
02:10:03,600 --> 02:10:06,640
Speaker 2: and my lifestyle and how I live and maybe who

2669
02:10:06,680 --> 02:10:09,600
Speaker 2: I'm married to, what how much money I make, or

2670
02:10:09,680 --> 02:10:13,080
Speaker 2: where I stay, or if I'm too loud, or if

2671
02:10:13,120 --> 02:10:16,720
Speaker 2: I'm pretty enough, how my clothes are, how my hair is,

2672
02:10:17,280 --> 02:10:21,440
Speaker 2: how much weigh I weigh, how my skin looks close.

2673
02:10:21,520 --> 02:10:23,520
Speaker 5: I get the FOROI that the fucks are starting to

2674
02:10:23,640 --> 02:10:24,120
Speaker 5: drop off.

2675
02:10:24,680 --> 02:10:28,240
Speaker 2: And the thing is a lot of men, even older men,

2676
02:10:28,360 --> 02:10:30,600
Speaker 2: don't really know how to deal with the woman when

2677
02:10:30,600 --> 02:10:32,840
Speaker 2: her fucks drop the zero, because.

2678
02:10:32,600 --> 02:10:35,320
Speaker 5: Once I drop the zero, she's like that old black man.

2679
02:10:35,400 --> 02:10:37,200
Speaker 5: She's like, look the nigga, this is what you get.

2680
02:10:37,400 --> 02:10:38,080
Speaker 5: Take it or leave it.

2681
02:10:38,880 --> 02:10:40,680
Speaker 2: And a lot of dudes don't know how to handle

2682
02:10:40,720 --> 02:10:43,440
Speaker 2: that because you're used to women being intimidated by you.

2683
02:10:44,280 --> 02:10:49,360
Speaker 2: Or are massaging your ego or stroking your opinion and

2684
02:10:49,920 --> 02:10:52,680
Speaker 2: making you feel the great and wonderful just so you

2685
02:10:52,760 --> 02:10:57,240
Speaker 2: can pay ass attention. And once you get to a woman,

2686
02:10:57,320 --> 02:11:00,680
Speaker 2: when her fucks get to zero and you can hit

2687
02:11:00,720 --> 02:11:04,760
Speaker 2: her with this missogynistic shit and she gon nigga, I

2688
02:11:05,080 --> 02:11:06,080
Speaker 2: don't care no more.

2689
02:11:06,640 --> 02:11:08,640
Speaker 5: A lot of dudes get angry because that's the woman

2690
02:11:08,680 --> 02:11:09,400
Speaker 5: you can't control.

2691
02:11:09,520 --> 02:11:12,480
Speaker 2: When a woman fucks gets to zero and she gets

2692
02:11:12,520 --> 02:11:14,800
Speaker 2: to the point where she really not don't care because

2693
02:11:15,000 --> 02:11:18,120
Speaker 2: I can't speak for everybody else, but when I was younger,

2694
02:11:18,360 --> 02:11:20,560
Speaker 2: and some of these things I'm still struggling with. Some

2695
02:11:20,760 --> 02:11:26,120
Speaker 2: I've completely gotten over. Where you hear what your family

2696
02:11:26,160 --> 02:11:29,440
Speaker 2: members have said about you and different things from your past,

2697
02:11:29,560 --> 02:11:32,200
Speaker 2: be it how you treat it. I talk about those

2698
02:11:32,240 --> 02:11:35,640
Speaker 2: things because I've had to deal with barriers about a

2699
02:11:35,720 --> 02:11:37,960
Speaker 2: lot of these things all my life, from my weight

2700
02:11:38,080 --> 02:11:41,680
Speaker 2: yo yoing to my hair to my skin, not being

2701
02:11:41,800 --> 02:11:45,480
Speaker 2: pretty enough, not being smart enough, you know, not making

2702
02:11:45,560 --> 02:11:47,760
Speaker 2: the perfect grades, getting to the point where no matter

2703
02:11:47,880 --> 02:11:50,320
Speaker 2: what I do, for some people, it's just never enough.

2704
02:11:50,440 --> 02:11:53,120
Speaker 5: Some loved ones to now I don't give a fuck.

2705
02:11:53,200 --> 02:11:55,000
Speaker 2: And when you don't give a fuck, they look at

2706
02:11:55,080 --> 02:11:56,640
Speaker 2: you like they say crazy shit to you and you

2707
02:11:56,800 --> 02:11:59,560
Speaker 2: just keep it trucking, and they act like something wrong

2708
02:11:59,600 --> 02:12:01,640
Speaker 2: with you for not giving them the attention that you

2709
02:12:01,720 --> 02:12:04,280
Speaker 2: used to give them to stroke their ego, and then

2710
02:12:04,360 --> 02:12:07,160
Speaker 2: you apologizing for some fuck shit they said. But now

2711
02:12:07,160 --> 02:12:09,040
Speaker 2: I'm to the point when I just don't care. I

2712
02:12:09,760 --> 02:12:11,880
Speaker 2: have more important things going on in my life than you.

2713
02:12:12,320 --> 02:12:14,480
Speaker 2: I cannot send in my life around you. And what

2714
02:12:14,680 --> 02:12:18,400
Speaker 2: I will not do is tolerate your bullshit. And I

2715
02:12:18,720 --> 02:12:20,440
Speaker 2: don't mind cutting you out of my life.

2716
02:12:20,640 --> 02:12:22,160
Speaker 5: I don't mind getting rid of you.

2717
02:12:22,400 --> 02:12:25,560
Speaker 2: I don't mind pushing the negativity out my life because

2718
02:12:25,600 --> 02:12:27,280
Speaker 2: I'm to the point where life is too short to

2719
02:12:27,360 --> 02:12:30,200
Speaker 2: surround yourself with fuck ass niggers that don't give a

2720
02:12:30,240 --> 02:12:32,840
Speaker 2: shit about you and stress me the fucked out. So

2721
02:12:33,360 --> 02:12:36,400
Speaker 2: a lot of times I surround myself with positive people,

2722
02:12:36,640 --> 02:12:38,560
Speaker 2: and I just realized.

2723
02:12:38,200 --> 02:12:39,480
Speaker 5: That helped me grow as a woman.

2724
02:12:39,800 --> 02:12:42,120
Speaker 2: And once I got to the point where I put

2725
02:12:42,200 --> 02:12:46,600
Speaker 2: people around me that love me, support me, don't ask

2726
02:12:46,680 --> 02:12:48,840
Speaker 2: me to change, don't ask me to be something that

2727
02:12:48,920 --> 02:12:49,200
Speaker 2: I'm not.

2728
02:12:50,080 --> 02:12:54,480
Speaker 5: You know, help build me, help encourage me to get

2729
02:12:54,520 --> 02:12:55,440
Speaker 5: me in the route direction.

2730
02:12:55,640 --> 02:12:58,240
Speaker 2: Don't try to deter my hope, so my dreams and

2731
02:12:58,360 --> 02:13:01,960
Speaker 2: my aspirations and we can bounce off of each other.

2732
02:13:02,520 --> 02:13:05,040
Speaker 5: Life has gotten better for me as i've gotten.

2733
02:13:04,880 --> 02:13:07,920
Speaker 2: Older, and I think for a lot of women, And

2734
02:13:08,040 --> 02:13:10,040
Speaker 2: like I said, even me apologizing and I'm sorry, Like

2735
02:13:10,120 --> 02:13:11,600
Speaker 2: I said, it's just some of that stuff, it's just

2736
02:13:12,240 --> 02:13:16,280
Speaker 2: ingrained in you where every time you speak, you're interrupting.

2737
02:13:16,400 --> 02:13:20,520
Speaker 5: Every time I say something, you're taking up space or

2738
02:13:20,560 --> 02:13:22,600
Speaker 5: you're taking you feel like you're taking away.

2739
02:13:22,360 --> 02:13:25,320
Speaker 2: From that person, and you have to apologize from now

2740
02:13:25,440 --> 02:13:29,080
Speaker 2: via attention being on you. And I think every woman

2741
02:13:29,240 --> 02:13:32,360
Speaker 2: goes through these different channels in her life, and I

2742
02:13:32,480 --> 02:13:34,919
Speaker 2: think there are a lot of women, in my opinion,

2743
02:13:35,240 --> 02:13:40,000
Speaker 2: that are still trapped in various forms of chains of

2744
02:13:40,080 --> 02:13:43,480
Speaker 2: people opinions of them, and it prevents them from being

2745
02:13:43,560 --> 02:13:44,560
Speaker 2: the woman that they can be.

2746
02:13:45,200 --> 02:13:48,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, you play your video game Stardue Valley all the

2747
02:13:48,720 --> 02:13:52,520
Speaker 4: time now, but I'm when you first started, it was

2748
02:13:52,720 --> 02:13:55,320
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I'm sorry about to play my vide You

2749
02:13:55,440 --> 02:13:57,120
Speaker 4: okay with me playing this video game?

2750
02:13:57,600 --> 02:14:00,280
Speaker 3: And I'm like, why did you not pay for half

2751
02:14:00,320 --> 02:14:02,560
Speaker 3: the TV? Like, I don't know.

2752
02:14:02,640 --> 02:14:05,120
Speaker 4: When I'm playing my video game, it's like I'm gonna

2753
02:14:05,120 --> 02:14:07,920
Speaker 4: play my game, Like, unless I'm interrupting something you're doing.

2754
02:14:08,400 --> 02:14:10,880
Speaker 3: Why would I feel bad to play a video game?

2755
02:14:11,080 --> 02:14:13,000
Speaker 3: Like we bought a video game system.

2756
02:14:13,240 --> 02:14:15,640
Speaker 4: You know, we have two other TVs in this house,

2757
02:14:15,760 --> 02:14:19,240
Speaker 4: multiple tablets and phones and shit, there's many other places

2758
02:14:19,280 --> 02:14:20,320
Speaker 4: to go watch the thing.

2759
02:14:20,920 --> 02:14:23,240
Speaker 3: But it's I think it just like.

2760
02:14:23,280 --> 02:14:25,200
Speaker 4: I said, it's just drilled down on women to be

2761
02:14:25,440 --> 02:14:29,440
Speaker 4: like apologetic for existing and shit, and it's not you know,

2762
02:14:29,520 --> 02:14:31,720
Speaker 4: it's not fair, but you know, it's something that's been

2763
02:14:31,760 --> 02:14:33,720
Speaker 4: on my mind ever since gestered when we talked, because

2764
02:14:33,760 --> 02:14:36,040
Speaker 4: I was like, we've been together for twenty two years

2765
02:14:36,760 --> 02:14:41,560
Speaker 4: and you still think there's a point. And I think

2766
02:14:41,680 --> 02:14:44,760
Speaker 4: this is probably most women. There's like you can't really

2767
02:14:44,840 --> 02:14:47,920
Speaker 4: trust it because it's like everyone's waiting to put this

2768
02:14:48,080 --> 02:14:51,280
Speaker 4: rug from under your feet, like gotcha slipping, bitch, I

2769
02:14:51,320 --> 02:14:51,880
Speaker 4: don't care.

2770
02:14:51,880 --> 02:14:52,440
Speaker 6: You know what I mean.

2771
02:14:52,600 --> 02:14:54,600
Speaker 4: We'll see people in the chat sometimes when you're talking

2772
02:14:54,720 --> 02:14:56,720
Speaker 4: or you're going on a ran or something, and I'll

2773
02:14:56,760 --> 02:14:59,080
Speaker 4: see people leave little comments like look at Rod's face,

2774
02:14:59,120 --> 02:15:01,880
Speaker 4: So what is it the nigga? I'm listening, That's what

2775
02:15:02,240 --> 02:15:04,560
Speaker 4: That's what you're watching is a person be like this

2776
02:15:04,760 --> 02:15:08,000
Speaker 4: person is talking and even if I have something to say,

2777
02:15:08,080 --> 02:15:11,160
Speaker 4: I'm gonna wait till they finished talking, or I'm gonna

2778
02:15:11,200 --> 02:15:13,040
Speaker 4: wait till a pause in this conversation for me.

2779
02:15:13,080 --> 02:15:18,480
Speaker 3: To jump in and co sign or reiterate or or whatever.

2780
02:15:18,680 --> 02:15:21,320
Speaker 4: Like this is me listening to a person that is

2781
02:15:21,320 --> 02:15:23,960
Speaker 4: speaking the way I would listen to any person, you know.

2782
02:15:24,280 --> 02:15:27,360
Speaker 4: But and sometimes and it takes training, because I do

2783
02:15:27,520 --> 02:15:31,000
Speaker 4: think the default is to interrupt women when they're talking

2784
02:15:31,160 --> 02:15:34,720
Speaker 4: the vast majority of their time, and if a woman interrupts,

2785
02:15:34,760 --> 02:15:37,160
Speaker 4: you to be like, nope, I ain't done, you know,

2786
02:15:38,440 --> 02:15:41,240
Speaker 4: And I try to respect that because sometimes, you know,

2787
02:15:41,440 --> 02:15:44,800
Speaker 4: when people are people, it's totally possible that a woman

2788
02:15:44,880 --> 02:15:47,240
Speaker 4: can be a complete dick, can be like I'm gonna

2789
02:15:47,240 --> 02:15:49,600
Speaker 4: talk over everybody. I'm a filibuster everyone, and I'm gonna

2790
02:15:49,680 --> 02:15:53,040
Speaker 4: keep making this all about me. It's totally possible that

2791
02:15:53,160 --> 02:15:54,440
Speaker 4: that can happen, you know what I mean.

2792
02:15:54,520 --> 02:15:56,440
Speaker 3: So it's not me. I'm not trying to be like

2793
02:15:56,760 --> 02:15:59,840
Speaker 3: a woman can never be wrong. I'm anyone can.

2794
02:15:59,840 --> 02:16:01,640
Speaker 4: Just be like I'm gonna come in this conversation and

2795
02:16:01,680 --> 02:16:03,960
Speaker 4: monopolize the fuck out of it, and it's about me

2796
02:16:04,120 --> 02:16:05,120
Speaker 4: right now, you know.

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Speaker 3: I member. We had Danny on the show a couple

2798
02:16:07,360 --> 02:16:09,040
Speaker 3: of weeks ago, or they it was last week.

2799
02:16:09,400 --> 02:16:11,280
Speaker 4: Well, she was talking about that give Trump a chance

2800
02:16:11,320 --> 02:16:14,480
Speaker 4: shit what Dexter had also told me we have to

2801
02:16:14,560 --> 02:16:17,000
Speaker 4: wrap it up at two thirty, and she was going

2802
02:16:17,040 --> 02:16:19,720
Speaker 4: on a fillerbus that at two twenty nine, you know

2803
02:16:19,760 --> 02:16:20,200
Speaker 4: what I mean.

2804
02:16:20,520 --> 02:16:21,920
Speaker 3: And whenever someone.

2805
02:16:21,760 --> 02:16:23,800
Speaker 4: Else started speaking, she would kind of cut them off

2806
02:16:23,880 --> 02:16:26,760
Speaker 4: and start going about her shit again. And I remember

2807
02:16:26,800 --> 02:16:28,800
Speaker 4: having to be like, Danny, please, I'll let you speak.

2808
02:16:29,080 --> 02:16:31,040
Speaker 4: You gotta let me speak. It is our show, and

2809
02:16:31,120 --> 02:16:31,920
Speaker 4: it gotta wrap it up.

2810
02:16:32,000 --> 02:16:33,120
Speaker 3: Like I would have.

2811
02:16:33,080 --> 02:16:34,800
Speaker 4: Loved to talk to that for another half hour, but

2812
02:16:35,040 --> 02:16:37,040
Speaker 4: at some point other people have to be able to

2813
02:16:37,080 --> 02:16:37,480
Speaker 4: make so.

2814
02:16:37,560 --> 02:16:38,880
Speaker 3: Like there's a flow of conversation.

2815
02:16:39,080 --> 02:16:40,039
Speaker 5: Yes it is, and that's.

2816
02:16:39,959 --> 02:16:42,840
Speaker 4: Totally you know what I'm saying. But I personally I

2817
02:16:43,000 --> 02:16:45,680
Speaker 4: love it when people are free to be themselves, and

2818
02:16:45,800 --> 02:16:49,400
Speaker 4: I have to like not be too much. So it is,

2819
02:16:49,560 --> 02:16:51,640
Speaker 4: you know, and I do have to train myself to

2820
02:16:51,760 --> 02:16:54,920
Speaker 4: be like, okay, raise talking and she's making great points.

2821
02:16:55,000 --> 02:16:56,880
Speaker 4: And I don't know why I kept using Raisin exever,

2822
02:16:56,959 --> 02:17:00,640
Speaker 4: but let's say any anybody, Yeah, anyone is talking, and

2823
02:17:00,680 --> 02:17:01,760
Speaker 4: she's making great examples, and.

2824
02:17:01,760 --> 02:17:04,240
Speaker 3: I want to chime in, I want to do all this,

2825
02:17:04,480 --> 02:17:05,840
Speaker 3: but you know what, man, they're.

2826
02:17:05,720 --> 02:17:09,560
Speaker 4: Talking and communicating and I've trained, I'm training myself and

2827
02:17:09,959 --> 02:17:12,200
Speaker 4: have trained myself to a certain extent to be like,

2828
02:17:12,600 --> 02:17:14,720
Speaker 4: let them get all that shit out before saying anything.

2829
02:17:14,840 --> 02:17:18,520
Speaker 4: So yeah, I think a lot of cases, you know,

2830
02:17:18,800 --> 02:17:21,720
Speaker 4: just like that phone call, there's an apology, but you

2831
02:17:21,760 --> 02:17:25,199
Speaker 4: don't have to apologize. You know, it's emotional, then it's emotional.

2832
02:17:25,680 --> 02:17:28,880
Speaker 4: If you angry, then you angry, Like there's nothing wrong

2833
02:17:28,879 --> 02:17:31,240
Speaker 4: with that shit. So all right, back to these voice

2834
02:17:31,280 --> 02:17:33,680
Speaker 4: mail I've got two left. Sorry, it's a big tanger,

2835
02:17:33,720 --> 02:17:35,119
Speaker 4: but I've been thinking about that for a while.

2836
02:17:38,600 --> 02:17:42,280
Speaker 6: Day you're writing, Karen, it's just Jaden. I just wanted

2837
02:17:42,280 --> 02:17:44,800
Speaker 6: to give a couple of comments about the hearing at

2838
02:17:44,840 --> 02:17:45,560
Speaker 6: a Black Story.

2839
02:17:46,760 --> 02:17:47,520
Speaker 8: So, yeah, I'm.

2840
02:17:47,760 --> 02:17:50,880
Speaker 6: Actually a scientist, and I first learned about her in

2841
02:17:51,200 --> 02:17:54,800
Speaker 6: like my EPX class in grad school, and yeah, I

2842
02:17:54,959 --> 02:17:58,880
Speaker 6: was very amazed and surprised to see that actually her

2843
02:17:59,040 --> 02:18:06,280
Speaker 6: family leads kind of like in dire straits financially. And yeah,

2844
02:18:06,440 --> 02:18:08,760
Speaker 6: and so we kind of talked about the exit because

2845
02:18:08,760 --> 02:18:13,800
Speaker 6: of like is it ethical to like compensate people for

2846
02:18:15,160 --> 02:18:17,320
Speaker 6: them giving them samples or something? Like that if it's

2847
02:18:17,360 --> 02:18:22,040
Speaker 6: going to aid in research, right, that can help all mankind.

2848
02:18:22,200 --> 02:18:24,920
Speaker 6: But at the same time it's like it aids in research,

2849
02:18:25,040 --> 02:18:26,960
Speaker 6: but it makes like money.

2850
02:18:27,280 --> 02:18:27,400
Speaker 4: Right.

2851
02:18:28,680 --> 02:18:31,360
Speaker 6: But back in the time when they took her samples,

2852
02:18:31,440 --> 02:18:37,160
Speaker 6: there was no like regulations of people having to get

2853
02:18:37,200 --> 02:18:42,480
Speaker 6: permission from patients to take their samples. So yeah, hearing

2854
02:18:42,520 --> 02:18:45,920
Speaker 6: about her story like definitely frustrates me, as you guys

2855
02:18:45,959 --> 02:18:49,360
Speaker 6: are reading too about that's just another dropping the bucket

2856
02:18:49,400 --> 02:18:51,560
Speaker 6: of many things that they've done to back and brown

2857
02:18:51,680 --> 02:18:56,120
Speaker 6: people in the name of science, you know, quote unquote,

2858
02:18:57,840 --> 02:19:00,760
Speaker 6: and in particular me being a black science is like that.

2859
02:19:01,520 --> 02:19:03,280
Speaker 6: You know, I love science, but it's kind of like

2860
02:19:03,400 --> 02:19:08,880
Speaker 6: a you know, a love hate relationship sometimes. And particular

2861
02:19:10,120 --> 02:19:13,560
Speaker 6: particularly now it frustrates me is that there are protocols

2862
02:19:13,640 --> 02:19:17,360
Speaker 6: in place where I mean here just at school, if

2863
02:19:17,440 --> 02:19:19,960
Speaker 6: people feel like if you're doing a study or something

2864
02:19:20,040 --> 02:19:21,800
Speaker 6: right for your project, and you set up like a

2865
02:19:21,879 --> 02:19:24,800
Speaker 6: protocol and it gets approved, then you can actually have

2866
02:19:25,240 --> 02:19:27,880
Speaker 6: that included in your grant money to be able to

2867
02:19:28,120 --> 02:19:31,680
Speaker 6: pay volunteers for like they're a blood temples or something

2868
02:19:31,800 --> 02:19:34,600
Speaker 6: or whatever. Like sometimes you can get like thirty dollars

2869
02:19:34,680 --> 02:19:36,200
Speaker 6: a pop or something every time you.

2870
02:19:37,920 --> 02:19:38,360
Speaker 8: Donate.

2871
02:19:39,320 --> 02:19:43,840
Speaker 6: So to me, it's like there isn't so there is that,

2872
02:19:44,440 --> 02:19:46,920
Speaker 6: there is no it's not like there our procedures in

2873
02:19:47,000 --> 02:19:51,119
Speaker 6: place to compensate people who participate in try not true,

2874
02:19:51,320 --> 02:19:54,080
Speaker 6: not all volunteer to compensate it, but you know there

2875
02:19:54,240 --> 02:19:59,920
Speaker 6: is a standard now. And so it just frustrates me that, yeah,

2876
02:20:00,120 --> 02:20:02,200
Speaker 6: that nothing has been done and her family has not

2877
02:20:02,400 --> 02:20:07,200
Speaker 6: getten any type of compensation for the literally billions of

2878
02:20:07,280 --> 02:20:11,920
Speaker 6: dollars that have made off of her samples and herself.

2879
02:20:12,040 --> 02:20:15,520
Speaker 6: Like it's it's totally unfair. Don't tell me that they

2880
02:20:15,560 --> 02:20:15,840
Speaker 6: don't have.

2881
02:20:15,879 --> 02:20:16,560
Speaker 8: It in the budget.

2882
02:20:17,240 --> 02:20:21,080
Speaker 6: I know how much like you know, research process every year.

2883
02:20:21,280 --> 02:20:22,360
Speaker 2: So but.

2884
02:20:25,200 --> 02:20:27,199
Speaker 6: But yeah, guys, that's just kind of my two stents

2885
02:20:27,280 --> 02:20:30,320
Speaker 6: and just you know, my frustration is being a scientist

2886
02:20:30,360 --> 02:20:33,560
Speaker 6: in the industry, things that have happened like that, as

2887
02:20:33,600 --> 02:20:37,840
Speaker 6: well as things like that I've learned about about you know,

2888
02:20:38,280 --> 02:20:43,320
Speaker 6: Black women getting forced sterilizations, or Puerto Rican women had

2889
02:20:43,480 --> 02:20:48,440
Speaker 6: birth control pills tested on them like unknownly they called

2890
02:20:49,640 --> 02:20:52,880
Speaker 6: side effects and all that type of stuff. All Right, Gus,

2891
02:20:53,280 --> 02:20:55,080
Speaker 6: love the show and Kaylen here.

2892
02:20:55,360 --> 02:20:55,880
Speaker 3: Back, goodbye.

2893
02:20:56,920 --> 02:20:59,760
Speaker 5: Oh thanks Jada, thank you for the educational movies.

2894
02:21:00,320 --> 02:21:00,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2895
02:21:01,240 --> 02:21:03,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, they do some fu shit, like she said in

2896
02:21:03,240 --> 02:21:06,680
Speaker 5: a quote unquote name of science, give us diseases and

2897
02:21:06,720 --> 02:21:08,400
Speaker 5: shiit just to see how it's going to affect a

2898
02:21:08,480 --> 02:21:09,040
Speaker 5: human being.

2899
02:21:10,280 --> 02:21:13,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, and she left one more voice maam.

2900
02:21:16,640 --> 02:21:18,560
Speaker 6: Hey guys, sorry, it's just say that again. This is

2901
02:21:18,640 --> 02:21:21,520
Speaker 6: one more point. I forgot to mention that coming from

2902
02:21:22,040 --> 02:21:25,480
Speaker 6: a scientific standpoint and right, how these things work. I

2903
02:21:25,600 --> 02:21:29,600
Speaker 6: think in an ideal world like the NIH or whatever,

2904
02:21:29,680 --> 02:21:32,280
Speaker 6: we're just like literally write them the check or whatever.

2905
02:21:32,440 --> 02:21:33,600
Speaker 3: But the family.

2906
02:21:33,760 --> 02:21:37,240
Speaker 6: But I'm I'm pretty sure that's not gonna happen to

2907
02:21:37,400 --> 02:21:40,200
Speaker 6: me since they people do have to get permission now

2908
02:21:40,400 --> 02:21:44,640
Speaker 6: to use her genome. When like pi's professors and may

2909
02:21:44,720 --> 02:21:46,920
Speaker 6: right grants or whatever, they have to give out a

2910
02:21:47,000 --> 02:21:49,520
Speaker 6: budget of like how that money is going to be

2911
02:21:49,560 --> 02:21:51,960
Speaker 6: spent or whatever, right, and they have like a budgeted

2912
02:21:52,000 --> 02:21:56,040
Speaker 6: amounts for supplies and material So to me, that's what

2913
02:21:56,160 --> 02:22:00,200
Speaker 6: the NIH needs to do. The money that like they

2914
02:22:00,640 --> 02:22:03,000
Speaker 6: give grants on and they set aside for like materials

2915
02:22:03,040 --> 02:22:06,400
Speaker 6: and stuff. That money should then be included for like

2916
02:22:06,480 --> 02:22:08,840
Speaker 6: if you want to use heel of sales or whatever

2917
02:22:09,000 --> 02:22:11,720
Speaker 6: like that and be sent to the family like as

2918
02:22:11,760 --> 02:22:14,560
Speaker 6: a way to start compensation, like they definitely owe them

2919
02:22:14,879 --> 02:22:18,240
Speaker 6: way like billions of dollars in back pay. But to me,

2920
02:22:18,440 --> 02:22:22,439
Speaker 6: that would be some type of I don't know, reasonable

2921
02:22:22,640 --> 02:22:24,520
Speaker 6: start or whatever if if you want.

2922
02:22:24,360 --> 02:22:24,880
Speaker 10: To call it that.

2923
02:22:25,320 --> 02:22:28,879
Speaker 6: All right, guys, love this show, all.

2924
02:22:28,600 --> 02:22:29,120
Speaker 3: Right, thank you.

2925
02:22:30,160 --> 02:22:32,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, we got some education black women's signces just calling

2926
02:22:32,840 --> 02:22:34,360
Speaker 4: in and being like, listen, let me tell you about

2927
02:22:34,360 --> 02:22:35,240
Speaker 4: these these.

2928
02:22:35,160 --> 02:22:36,520
Speaker 3: Heel sales and these white folks.

2929
02:22:36,560 --> 02:22:39,520
Speaker 4: Okay, so you need people on the inside looking out

2930
02:22:39,560 --> 02:22:43,280
Speaker 4: for it, like the black women scientists, like the black

2931
02:22:43,360 --> 02:22:46,840
Speaker 4: women at the h at the pop up, just looking

2932
02:22:46,879 --> 02:22:47,720
Speaker 4: out for everybody.

2933
02:22:48,720 --> 02:22:49,600
Speaker 3: Y'all don't even know it.

2934
02:22:50,000 --> 02:22:51,840
Speaker 5: M y, like you know that shit's gonna kill you.

2935
02:22:51,920 --> 02:22:51,960
Speaker 2: What.

2936
02:22:54,560 --> 02:22:58,400
Speaker 4: All right, we got some emails from everybody, so let's

2937
02:22:58,680 --> 02:23:01,840
Speaker 4: get into these and uh, this will be the last

2938
02:23:01,879 --> 02:23:05,320
Speaker 4: thing before we get out of here. Hopefully go see

2939
02:23:05,360 --> 02:23:14,560
Speaker 4: my nephew today and give him his uh presence mm hmmm.

2940
02:23:15,440 --> 02:23:18,080
Speaker 3: Uh thanks y'all.

2941
02:23:18,200 --> 02:23:21,440
Speaker 4: This from Dion, who says I do I've said this

2942
02:23:21,520 --> 02:23:23,440
Speaker 4: a few times, but I just want to thank you.

2943
02:23:23,560 --> 02:23:23,960
Speaker 3: Right of care.

2944
02:23:24,040 --> 02:23:27,800
Speaker 4: With all the bullshit going on in today's world, is

2945
02:23:27,920 --> 02:23:30,600
Speaker 4: always a plus to have you three justin two Yeah,

2946
02:23:30,760 --> 02:23:33,960
Speaker 4: Premium nigga in my ear, keeping me laughing and thinking.

2947
02:23:34,120 --> 02:23:36,560
Speaker 4: Please keep doing what y'all doing, and I will forever

2948
02:23:36,720 --> 02:23:38,039
Speaker 4: be a fan slash listener.

2949
02:23:38,440 --> 02:23:42,600
Speaker 3: Thanks Dion dB Trill on Twitter. Uh see what else

2950
02:23:42,640 --> 02:23:42,960
Speaker 3: you got?

2951
02:23:45,640 --> 02:23:50,160
Speaker 4: I think we did that one already. Oh, miss crisp

2952
02:23:50,400 --> 02:23:52,800
Speaker 4: right saying, who is a long one? Okay, Miss Crispal.

2953
02:23:52,879 --> 02:23:57,000
Speaker 4: Let's see what you're talking about? Right, Hey, Rodrin, It's

2954
02:23:57,080 --> 02:23:59,160
Speaker 4: called all good, Hey, Rogering. I just want to say

2955
02:23:59,200 --> 02:24:04,640
Speaker 4: I empathize the homie from Shadow Dog. Oh Daddy, Okay, Danny.

2956
02:24:05,160 --> 02:24:09,000
Speaker 4: I transition from optimists to realistic optimists in my late teens.

2957
02:24:09,360 --> 02:24:11,600
Speaker 4: A good part of my job is the five good

2958
02:24:11,680 --> 02:24:13,920
Speaker 4: in people, which I meant is in direct correlation with

2959
02:24:14,000 --> 02:24:17,959
Speaker 4: my personality. I work in the addiction field at face

2960
02:24:18,360 --> 02:24:21,119
Speaker 4: at face value my community members. I consider the undesirables

2961
02:24:21,400 --> 02:24:23,680
Speaker 4: to most people across the board, from the senior citizen,

2962
02:24:23,879 --> 02:24:29,040
Speaker 4: Black Blue, Black Cover HIV plus along with ACV, ABC

2963
02:24:29,280 --> 02:24:33,800
Speaker 4: BBD at Ebola, Cavin Cat Daddy, career heroin addicts to

2964
02:24:33,920 --> 02:24:37,360
Speaker 4: the twenty something do face du bros at Capital b

2965
02:24:37,560 --> 02:24:41,600
Speaker 4: Becky trihards. There's something for everyone to hate, yay, but

2966
02:24:41,760 --> 02:24:44,000
Speaker 4: finding good in people isn't just a decision, but a

2967
02:24:44,040 --> 02:24:46,920
Speaker 4: gift or personality trait. It's a trait that needs to

2968
02:24:46,959 --> 02:24:50,439
Speaker 4: be honed, expanded, and contracted, which comes with experience.

2969
02:24:50,520 --> 02:24:51,360
Speaker 3: I think it's mastered.

2970
02:24:51,440 --> 02:24:54,680
Speaker 4: I mastered the art of being unbothered and dedicated my

2971
02:24:54,840 --> 02:24:57,360
Speaker 4: life to empathy in elementary school. I'm able to do

2972
02:24:57,480 --> 02:24:59,840
Speaker 4: what I do and feel what I feel because I

2973
02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:02,200
Speaker 4: cultivated my life to do it. I explained this to

2974
02:25:02,280 --> 02:25:05,760
Speaker 4: my child and clients, that I'm actively choosing to be nice,

2975
02:25:05,760 --> 02:25:08,040
Speaker 4: and I worked hard to maintain this niceness.

2976
02:25:08,120 --> 02:25:08,600
Speaker 3: Son untrue.

2977
02:25:08,640 --> 02:25:11,320
Speaker 4: I mean I've done this by taking things with a

2978
02:25:11,400 --> 02:25:13,480
Speaker 4: great of salt, because nine times out of ten people

2979
02:25:13,600 --> 02:25:16,119
Speaker 4: saltiness has nothing to do with me, and the source

2980
02:25:16,160 --> 02:25:17,920
Speaker 4: of the salt will come out sooner or later.

2981
02:25:18,520 --> 02:25:20,959
Speaker 3: Also, this may sound redundant, but it's not. Don't take

2982
02:25:21,000 --> 02:25:22,680
Speaker 3: everything to heart. If I take.

2983
02:25:22,560 --> 02:25:25,959
Speaker 4: Everyone's negativity or neediness to heart, I probably wouldn't be alive.

2984
02:25:26,360 --> 02:25:28,520
Speaker 4: It takes a balance of boundaries and commitment to the

2985
02:25:28,560 --> 02:25:32,440
Speaker 4: accountability on all fronts, compartmentalization, letting go, and the art

2986
02:25:32,480 --> 02:25:35,199
Speaker 4: of leaving things at work to survive, but the survival

2987
02:25:35,320 --> 02:25:38,600
Speaker 4: society is depending on us. In paths, there are clients

2988
02:25:38,640 --> 02:25:41,040
Speaker 4: that I genuinely just like as humans. But for the

2989
02:25:41,120 --> 02:25:45,560
Speaker 4: sake of being professionally a professional therapeutic, I have to

2990
02:25:45,680 --> 02:25:47,800
Speaker 4: find and expand on the good in them and not

2991
02:25:47,959 --> 02:25:50,360
Speaker 4: cause harm to them. I had the power to cause

2992
02:25:50,400 --> 02:25:52,680
Speaker 4: people to be homeless and or have their kids taken

2993
02:25:52,720 --> 02:25:54,960
Speaker 4: away from them, so I practice empathy to help me

2994
02:25:55,040 --> 02:25:59,000
Speaker 4: help them. But when it comes to the Torpeico tyrant,

2995
02:26:00,480 --> 02:26:03,800
Speaker 4: he's entertainment, but that entertainment needs to stay on NBC

2996
02:26:03,959 --> 02:26:06,600
Speaker 4: and Trump Towers. He shouldn't have even been permitted to

2997
02:26:06,720 --> 02:26:08,880
Speaker 4: end of the White House. Nevertheless, use it as his

2998
02:26:08,959 --> 02:26:12,320
Speaker 4: commuter home. On another note, just because people are impassed

2999
02:26:12,320 --> 02:26:15,039
Speaker 4: to find something decent en people doesn't negate the need

3000
02:26:15,160 --> 02:26:17,480
Speaker 4: to be honest and exercise common sense. I think when

3001
02:26:17,520 --> 02:26:21,000
Speaker 4: people critique nice people, they don't take into account the

3002
02:26:21,080 --> 02:26:23,920
Speaker 4: fact that they have that they have with deemable qualities

3003
02:26:24,280 --> 02:26:27,840
Speaker 4: and saying folks can't do no wrong or separate separate things.

3004
02:26:28,280 --> 02:26:32,680
Speaker 4: Just because the fanta fastest fascist might have taken a

3005
02:26:32,760 --> 02:26:35,039
Speaker 4: cute baby pick that one time doesn't mean that folks

3006
02:26:35,120 --> 02:26:38,240
Speaker 4: think he'd make a good city council member. Nevertheless, potus

3007
02:26:38,680 --> 02:26:43,560
Speaker 4: or in this case ptists probably wrongly equated. Nice was

3008
02:26:43,680 --> 02:26:45,840
Speaker 4: soft and if it weren't for us, well, let's not

3009
02:26:46,000 --> 02:26:49,200
Speaker 4: think about that, it wouldn't be too nice. Bottom line,

3010
02:26:49,320 --> 02:26:51,200
Speaker 4: maybe there are just twenty percent of us who can't

3011
02:26:51,240 --> 02:26:55,119
Speaker 4: handle this empathy slash nicey Knife's life and little Homie

3012
02:26:55,240 --> 02:26:57,320
Speaker 4: was reaching in that convo. But she will learn to

3013
02:26:57,400 --> 02:27:00,480
Speaker 4: grow and be all right, well yeah, I mean, look,

3014
02:27:00,760 --> 02:27:06,720
Speaker 4: she is young. I also don't really resent her point

3015
02:27:06,720 --> 02:27:09,360
Speaker 4: of view. I think a lot of people want to

3016
02:27:09,400 --> 02:27:11,840
Speaker 4: shut her down and shit, but I don't know man

3017
02:27:12,160 --> 02:27:17,440
Speaker 4: to me as a person that I am an EmPATH, like,

3018
02:27:18,440 --> 02:27:20,720
Speaker 4: I think there also has to be some self protection

3019
02:27:21,520 --> 02:27:26,240
Speaker 4: for me at least involved, because I can't be sympathized

3020
02:27:26,320 --> 02:27:27,360
Speaker 4: for any and everybody.

3021
02:27:27,440 --> 02:27:28,519
Speaker 3: It's just not realistic.

3022
02:27:28,680 --> 02:27:30,440
Speaker 4: And in a lot of cases, people are very, very

3023
02:27:30,520 --> 02:27:33,560
Speaker 4: fucking harmful and it's better to keep them away from

3024
02:27:33,600 --> 02:27:38,520
Speaker 4: you before you start essentially making excuses or justifying their

3025
02:27:38,600 --> 02:27:41,840
Speaker 4: bullshit because of however they were affected that made them

3026
02:27:41,879 --> 02:27:45,160
Speaker 4: the way they are, and that's that's something that's very

3027
02:27:45,280 --> 02:27:49,320
Speaker 4: dangerous for you know that that's something at least for

3028
02:27:49,440 --> 02:27:51,880
Speaker 4: me personally, it's something that's very dangerous for my emotional

3029
02:27:51,959 --> 02:27:54,400
Speaker 4: well being. And sometimes you can be like, oh, well,

3030
02:27:54,440 --> 02:27:57,440
Speaker 4: this person they mean well or they you know, if

3031
02:27:57,520 --> 02:27:59,640
Speaker 4: this thing had happened, they wouldn't be this way.

3032
02:28:00,280 --> 02:28:02,520
Speaker 3: But sometimes it's not about.

3033
02:28:02,360 --> 02:28:04,400
Speaker 4: Having empathy for a person that is in a position

3034
02:28:04,480 --> 02:28:07,160
Speaker 4: of power over other people and is exerting that power

3035
02:28:07,720 --> 02:28:10,640
Speaker 4: in a very fucked up way, Like it's not my

3036
02:28:10,760 --> 02:28:13,360
Speaker 4: responsibility to give that person a chance or to find

3037
02:28:13,440 --> 02:28:14,760
Speaker 4: the redeeming quality.

3038
02:28:14,840 --> 02:28:18,240
Speaker 3: In that person. And I think it's it Like, in

3039
02:28:18,400 --> 02:28:20,679
Speaker 3: my opinion, it's the self protection.

3040
02:28:22,240 --> 02:28:25,680
Speaker 4: That Dandy probably has and some other people have where

3041
02:28:25,720 --> 02:28:28,440
Speaker 4: they can't really turn it off where their thing is.

3042
02:28:28,720 --> 02:28:31,280
Speaker 4: I will protect myself from negative thoughts by finding the

3043
02:28:31,360 --> 02:28:34,200
Speaker 4: positive in everybody, so I never have to feel like

3044
02:28:34,240 --> 02:28:36,400
Speaker 4: a bad person for thinking something bad about a person.

3045
02:28:36,480 --> 02:28:39,480
Speaker 4: But some people are not good and the things they're

3046
02:28:39,480 --> 02:28:42,400
Speaker 4: doing are bad, and it's not You're not wrong for

3047
02:28:42,520 --> 02:28:44,039
Speaker 4: being like this is bad.

3048
02:28:44,200 --> 02:28:46,920
Speaker 3: You know, you're not a bad person for that. I

3049
02:28:47,160 --> 02:28:49,960
Speaker 3: know I used to be like that, but no, no,

3050
02:28:50,200 --> 02:28:50,960
Speaker 3: that was it.

3051
02:28:52,640 --> 02:28:55,360
Speaker 4: And to Uncle Sam Jackson, direct your negative energy away

3052
02:28:55,360 --> 02:28:57,840
Speaker 4: from the farm board actors of Rapper Slash actors towards

3053
02:28:57,920 --> 02:29:02,840
Speaker 4: Betty Devrah to get some to get some arts education funding,

3054
02:29:03,120 --> 02:29:05,640
Speaker 4: because that because what he might be seeing as a

3055
02:29:05,680 --> 02:29:08,560
Speaker 4: result of generation's long lacking of arts education funding in

3056
02:29:08,600 --> 02:29:11,080
Speaker 4: the US. Don't be mad at the UK for investing

3057
02:29:11,120 --> 02:29:13,720
Speaker 4: in dramatic arts education. And he needs to big up

3058
02:29:13,760 --> 02:29:16,600
Speaker 4: the rapper artists for doing what black people do, making

3059
02:29:16,640 --> 02:29:18,760
Speaker 4: a way out of no way. They obviously use hip

3060
02:29:18,760 --> 02:29:21,560
Speaker 4: hop as an unconventional means of artistic expression and entrance

3061
02:29:21,800 --> 02:29:25,119
Speaker 4: into the world of dramatic arts. Applaud them niggas well. Yeah,

3062
02:29:25,200 --> 02:29:26,680
Speaker 4: it was not like he was too good to be

3063
02:29:26,800 --> 02:29:29,880
Speaker 4: in a movie with him. See what I did, Just dare,

3064
02:29:30,000 --> 02:29:32,600
Speaker 4: use my inner city, use my nicety impact power.

3065
02:29:32,400 --> 02:29:34,000
Speaker 3: And turn that negative to a positive.

3066
02:29:34,320 --> 02:29:36,400
Speaker 4: And now I will gently place the mic back into

3067
02:29:36,480 --> 02:29:38,320
Speaker 4: the stand because if I drop it it might break.

3068
02:29:38,400 --> 02:29:41,240
Speaker 4: And also don't want to burden the cleaning staff. HUDs

3069
02:29:41,240 --> 02:29:42,760
Speaker 4: and kisses, mischryscible.

3070
02:29:42,959 --> 02:29:45,400
Speaker 5: Oh, thank you, baby, ye, thank you.

3071
02:29:46,440 --> 02:29:49,680
Speaker 4: Let's see who else we got, oh, Nathan Wright saying

3072
02:29:49,840 --> 02:29:54,000
Speaker 4: Citizen Radio and Safe Spaces. Hey, I've actually been listening

3073
02:29:54,000 --> 02:29:56,200
Speaker 4: to Citizen Radio for many, many years. In fact, it

3074
02:29:56,280 --> 02:29:58,720
Speaker 4: was the first podcast I've ever listened to. I was

3075
02:29:58,800 --> 02:30:01,440
Speaker 4: in the Facebook group for the podcast Radio Dispatch, a

3076
02:30:01,520 --> 02:30:03,800
Speaker 4: sort of assisted podcast assists in radio.

3077
02:30:04,480 --> 02:30:07,039
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the neffles, right, I think I don't want

3078
02:30:07,040 --> 02:30:07,320
Speaker 3: to say that.

3079
02:30:08,600 --> 02:30:11,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, heard the monkey Finger And it was there that

3080
02:30:11,120 --> 02:30:13,120
Speaker 4: I first saw the news about Jamie Keilsteen.

3081
02:30:13,680 --> 02:30:15,440
Speaker 3: Spit did.

3082
02:30:17,000 --> 02:30:20,400
Speaker 4: John and Moley nephil Yeah, okay, we do nothing. Talked

3083
02:30:20,400 --> 02:30:22,720
Speaker 4: about it on Radio Dispatch a couple of days later

3084
02:30:22,920 --> 02:30:25,240
Speaker 4: after talking to some of his victims, and they had

3085
02:30:25,280 --> 02:30:28,000
Speaker 4: an interesting discussion which brought to something which bought the

3086
02:30:28,080 --> 02:30:30,760
Speaker 4: mint of question. So I'm assist head white dude, and

3087
02:30:30,800 --> 02:30:33,480
Speaker 4: I have a blog hosted that Free Thought Blogs. When

3088
02:30:33,520 --> 02:30:36,200
Speaker 4: I started first started blogging, I attempted to curate my

3089
02:30:36,320 --> 02:30:38,280
Speaker 4: blog as a safe space for people who aren't sis

3090
02:30:38,360 --> 02:30:42,160
Speaker 4: had white dudes. We're misogyny, including victim blaming, racism, homophobia,

3091
02:30:42,200 --> 02:30:45,880
Speaker 4: transphoben etc. Simply wasn't allowed, and continued to do that

3092
02:30:46,040 --> 02:30:48,720
Speaker 4: when I got invited to the Free throught blogs. But

3093
02:30:48,840 --> 02:30:50,480
Speaker 4: now I'm not so sure I can make my blog

3094
02:30:50,560 --> 02:30:52,880
Speaker 4: a truly save space, because I'm starting to wonder if

3095
02:30:52,920 --> 02:30:55,039
Speaker 4: it's even possible for a space curated by a sis

3096
02:30:55,160 --> 02:30:57,320
Speaker 4: head white dude to be safe in any way. I

3097
02:30:57,440 --> 02:30:59,880
Speaker 4: personally don't think, so I don't expect anyone who is

3098
02:31:00,000 --> 02:31:02,520
Speaker 4: and sists head white dude to trust me or any

3099
02:31:02,600 --> 02:31:03,560
Speaker 4: cis head white dude.

3100
02:31:03,720 --> 02:31:07,320
Speaker 3: Why should they. It's worse because Jamie Spit did not

3101
02:31:07,560 --> 02:31:10,520
Speaker 3: did just talk to talk, Oh, didn't just talk to talk.

3102
02:31:10,760 --> 02:31:13,400
Speaker 4: He walked the walk to the Attended protests included occupied

3103
02:31:13,400 --> 02:31:15,800
Speaker 4: Black Lives Matter protests, feminist protests.

3104
02:31:15,400 --> 02:31:15,720
Speaker 2: And so on.

3105
02:31:16,160 --> 02:31:18,840
Speaker 4: Gave money in time even publicly users privileged to appify

3106
02:31:18,879 --> 02:31:21,240
Speaker 4: the voices of those who aren't sis head white males.

3107
02:31:22,560 --> 02:31:27,040
Speaker 4: So even his actions didn't couldn't be trusted. It was

3108
02:31:27,120 --> 02:31:29,360
Speaker 4: all a public shield for his pathetic ass.

3109
02:31:29,520 --> 02:31:30,400
Speaker 3: And he's not the first.

3110
02:31:30,959 --> 02:31:33,480
Speaker 4: My very own network Free Thought Blog had our own

3111
02:31:33,520 --> 02:31:36,600
Speaker 4: similar story with another sis head white dude named Richard

3112
02:31:36,680 --> 02:31:43,760
Speaker 4: Carrier to tease feelings right a man who a man

3113
02:31:43,760 --> 02:31:46,040
Speaker 4: who ran in feminine circles, talked to talk and walked

3114
02:31:46,080 --> 02:31:48,200
Speaker 4: the walk. It turned out to be skeeve and manipulative

3115
02:31:48,240 --> 02:31:50,280
Speaker 4: towards the very women he claimed and support.

3116
02:31:50,680 --> 02:31:53,400
Speaker 3: These men are the most are the worst, frankly, and

3117
02:31:54,080 --> 02:31:54,720
Speaker 3: have only.

3118
02:31:54,600 --> 02:31:57,680
Speaker 4: Made spaces one start saved by many women to actually

3119
02:31:57,720 --> 02:31:58,400
Speaker 4: be unsafe.

3120
02:31:58,840 --> 02:32:00,760
Speaker 3: Uh. They have done so much damage.

3121
02:32:00,760 --> 02:32:03,000
Speaker 4: I still don't don't allow any form of bigotry in

3122
02:32:03,080 --> 02:32:05,080
Speaker 4: my blog, but I no longer feel it can ever

3123
02:32:05,160 --> 02:32:07,039
Speaker 4: be a truly safe space because it's curated by sis

3124
02:32:07,080 --> 02:32:07,480
Speaker 4: sat White.

3125
02:32:07,560 --> 02:32:10,120
Speaker 3: Dude. Sorry for the list of this as usual, y'all awesome.

3126
02:32:11,840 --> 02:32:12,959
Speaker 3: I agree with everything you.

3127
02:32:13,000 --> 02:32:16,800
Speaker 4: Said, except I literally do not believe there's any such

3128
02:32:16,840 --> 02:32:17,760
Speaker 4: thing as a safe space.

3129
02:32:17,879 --> 02:32:21,920
Speaker 3: So and that's not on some like Republican you shouldn't

3130
02:32:21,920 --> 02:32:24,000
Speaker 3: even try. I just really think human.

3131
02:32:23,840 --> 02:32:28,040
Speaker 4: Beings are flawed as fuck, and even the things that

3132
02:32:28,160 --> 02:32:32,800
Speaker 4: we would consider minor for people of privilege are major

3133
02:32:33,000 --> 02:32:35,280
Speaker 4: to people of marginalized people.

3134
02:32:35,360 --> 02:32:42,680
Speaker 3: So even my curiosity about the lives of trans people

3135
02:32:43,040 --> 02:32:45,920
Speaker 3: and my feeling, my feeling is kind of intrusive.

3136
02:32:46,600 --> 02:32:50,959
Speaker 4: Why why should your existence be have to facilitate my curiosity?

3137
02:32:51,440 --> 02:32:54,680
Speaker 4: Why why should my need to know something inhibit upon

3138
02:32:54,800 --> 02:32:56,840
Speaker 4: your ability to simply be in exist?

3139
02:32:57,440 --> 02:32:59,800
Speaker 3: You know, and it's and it's human. I'm not saying

3140
02:32:59,840 --> 02:33:01,800
Speaker 3: it's like, I don't think it's possible to have.

3141
02:33:01,840 --> 02:33:05,400
Speaker 4: An existence where there's this group of diverse, different people

3142
02:33:05,480 --> 02:33:07,400
Speaker 4: and they don't discuss their differences, no.

3143
02:33:07,440 --> 02:33:09,200
Speaker 3: One ever learns anything from anybody.

3144
02:33:09,440 --> 02:33:13,880
Speaker 4: Everyone just already knows everything and everybody understands, Like, I

3145
02:33:14,000 --> 02:33:16,640
Speaker 4: just don't think it's possible in the ways that I

3146
02:33:16,800 --> 02:33:20,640
Speaker 4: feel like we define safety, and it's definitely not possible.

3147
02:33:20,640 --> 02:33:22,400
Speaker 4: And especially in the Internet age, where you can't have

3148
02:33:22,480 --> 02:33:26,160
Speaker 4: a wolf in sheep's clothing. People are not stagnant things,

3149
02:33:26,640 --> 02:33:29,720
Speaker 4: you know, for the most part. People are changing shape

3150
02:33:29,720 --> 02:33:34,000
Speaker 4: shifting motherfuckers. So like, even a person that means well,

3151
02:33:34,560 --> 02:33:38,600
Speaker 4: maybe they meant well September first, some shit hapen September fifteenth. Thing,

3152
02:33:38,720 --> 02:33:41,240
Speaker 4: Like I'm trying to do some fucked up shit, I don't,

3153
02:33:41,560 --> 02:33:44,160
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Like, and people can justify anything.

3154
02:33:46,200 --> 02:33:48,160
Speaker 4: So I just feel like the only thing you.

3155
02:33:48,200 --> 02:33:50,640
Speaker 3: Can truly do is take responsibility for the space that

3156
02:33:50,720 --> 02:33:51,600
Speaker 3: you manage. That's it.

3157
02:33:51,800 --> 02:33:55,959
Speaker 4: You can't promise anybody anything as far as safety, you can't.

3158
02:33:56,200 --> 02:33:58,320
Speaker 4: As long as there are other people in the space.

3159
02:33:58,480 --> 02:34:02,280
Speaker 4: I can't be responsible for anybody else's actions. I can

3160
02:34:02,360 --> 02:34:05,040
Speaker 4: only react to the actions in what I consider to

3161
02:34:05,080 --> 02:34:08,640
Speaker 4: be a responsible manner. That's it, you know, That's the

3162
02:34:08,760 --> 02:34:12,960
Speaker 4: messiness of humanity. So yeah, and and what do you

3163
02:34:13,080 --> 02:34:19,640
Speaker 4: do about somebody that actively takes on the colt of

3164
02:34:19,760 --> 02:34:23,040
Speaker 4: other you know, like this this this, this mask, you

3165
02:34:23,120 --> 02:34:25,680
Speaker 4: know what I mean? Like, people are fucking psychopaths, man.

3166
02:34:26,080 --> 02:34:28,200
Speaker 4: And maybe it's because I just don't trust people but

3167
02:34:28,360 --> 02:34:33,320
Speaker 4: I don't. I would feel like I would feel dishonest

3168
02:34:33,400 --> 02:34:36,360
Speaker 4: to promise people something I can't deliver, correct, you know, So,

3169
02:34:36,560 --> 02:34:39,120
Speaker 4: like I said, people will refer to our Facebook group

3170
02:34:39,120 --> 02:34:41,320
Speaker 4: as a safe face, people refer to our podcast as

3171
02:34:41,320 --> 02:34:42,119
Speaker 4: a safe space.

3172
02:34:42,360 --> 02:34:44,080
Speaker 3: I don't feel that it is safe. I don't, but

3173
02:34:44,240 --> 02:34:44,480
Speaker 3: I'm not.

3174
02:34:44,680 --> 02:34:47,000
Speaker 4: But at the same time, I'm not really striving to

3175
02:34:47,120 --> 02:34:49,959
Speaker 4: make it safe quote unquote. I'll try to be mindful,

3176
02:34:50,360 --> 02:34:53,280
Speaker 4: I try to be empathetic to a certain extent, but

3177
02:34:53,360 --> 02:34:55,560
Speaker 4: I don't feel like this shit is safe because I.

3178
02:34:55,600 --> 02:34:58,160
Speaker 3: Think comedy is very unsafe by nature. And we do

3179
02:34:58,280 --> 02:34:59,160
Speaker 3: a lot of jokes.

3180
02:34:59,240 --> 02:35:03,360
Speaker 4: We talk about guest the race, we talk about fucking

3181
02:35:03,400 --> 02:35:05,680
Speaker 4: with black people. I'm sure there are people that are like,

3182
02:35:05,720 --> 02:35:07,760
Speaker 4: I don't listen to black artists. I get triggered every

3183
02:35:07,800 --> 02:35:11,240
Speaker 4: time they talk about, you know, black death and it's

3184
02:35:11,280 --> 02:35:14,720
Speaker 4: fucking with black people. You never know when one of

3185
02:35:14,760 --> 02:35:19,440
Speaker 4: the topics might be, uh, you know, sexual assault, and

3186
02:35:19,480 --> 02:35:22,000
Speaker 4: there's no trigger wanting, there's no you know, like, I

3187
02:35:22,440 --> 02:35:25,600
Speaker 4: recognize that we're to we may be a bit quote

3188
02:35:25,680 --> 02:35:28,760
Speaker 4: unquote safer than just some spaces that are just like

3189
02:35:28,879 --> 02:35:32,520
Speaker 4: we don't give a fucking you cook, social justice warriors,

3190
02:35:32,600 --> 02:35:34,960
Speaker 4: blah blah, like we might be safer than that, but

3191
02:35:35,080 --> 02:35:35,360
Speaker 4: we ain't.

3192
02:35:35,400 --> 02:35:37,760
Speaker 3: Really. I don't feel like what we do is safe.

3193
02:35:37,959 --> 02:35:41,320
Speaker 4: But I also don't feel like we strive to be safe,

3194
02:35:42,640 --> 02:35:44,200
Speaker 4: while others may try to do that.

3195
02:35:44,320 --> 02:35:45,560
Speaker 3: But I feel like safety is an.

3196
02:35:45,480 --> 02:35:49,920
Speaker 4: Illusion for the most part, because the human beings and

3197
02:35:50,240 --> 02:35:53,600
Speaker 4: life is too random to feel to ever feel safe.

3198
02:35:53,640 --> 02:35:56,040
Speaker 3: I know I don't feel safe ever, you know what

3199
02:35:56,120 --> 02:35:56,440
Speaker 3: I mean.

3200
02:35:57,000 --> 02:35:59,800
Speaker 4: And I don't feel safe in my house right now

3201
02:36:00,959 --> 02:36:04,000
Speaker 4: with the alarm on, Like I feel like police could

3202
02:36:04,000 --> 02:36:05,720
Speaker 4: have knocked on the door and shoot a nigga dead,

3203
02:36:05,840 --> 02:36:07,880
Speaker 4: and I'll be like, well, I should have known not

3204
02:36:08,040 --> 02:36:09,600
Speaker 4: to be in my house, out of my business.

3205
02:36:10,000 --> 02:36:12,280
Speaker 5: This is just the wrong day to do that place

3206
02:36:12,320 --> 02:36:13,840
Speaker 5: at the wrong time. I shouldn't have been here.

3207
02:36:14,200 --> 02:36:17,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, but but yeah, that doesn't mean you

3208
02:36:17,440 --> 02:36:19,480
Speaker 4: give up or you don't strive to manage your shit.

3209
02:36:20,280 --> 02:36:24,200
Speaker 4: But I just think it's more about responsibility and awareness

3210
02:36:24,760 --> 02:36:29,680
Speaker 4: and taking like having some accountability because everything else is

3211
02:36:29,760 --> 02:36:32,000
Speaker 4: just people lying to you about promising you something they

3212
02:36:32,000 --> 02:36:34,040
Speaker 4: can't deliver. But what you can be like is yo,

3213
02:36:34,040 --> 02:36:36,480
Speaker 4: I'm gonna take that in advisement and if I can't

3214
02:36:36,520 --> 02:36:40,520
Speaker 4: do it, then I can't do it, you know. So anyway,

3215
02:36:41,320 --> 02:36:44,119
Speaker 4: all right, a great article I thought i'd share. It's

3216
02:36:44,200 --> 02:36:46,480
Speaker 4: from Tiffany B. Who says, Hey, Rod and Karen wanted

3217
02:36:46,520 --> 02:36:47,240
Speaker 4: to share this article.

3218
02:36:47,720 --> 02:36:48,400
Speaker 3: My husband is a.

3219
02:36:48,400 --> 02:36:50,000
Speaker 4: Proud of loudness of A and T and he is

3220
02:36:50,040 --> 02:36:53,000
Speaker 4: also an engineer. Here and I have very different college experiences.

3221
02:36:53,040 --> 02:36:55,360
Speaker 4: I went to a big ten university for undergrad private

3222
02:36:55,520 --> 02:36:58,840
Speaker 4: under the university for my massive degree in PhD all

3223
02:36:58,879 --> 02:36:59,959
Speaker 4: predominantly white and had to.

3224
02:37:00,040 --> 02:37:01,640
Speaker 3: Seek out other black students and support.

3225
02:37:01,879 --> 02:37:04,720
Speaker 4: By the time I started my PhD studies, there were

3226
02:37:04,840 --> 02:37:07,360
Speaker 4: very few black students and none in my field of

3227
02:37:07,480 --> 02:37:10,280
Speaker 4: study at the time, and no students support at all.

3228
02:37:10,360 --> 02:37:12,599
Speaker 3: This article made me think of your emotional.

3229
02:37:12,240 --> 02:37:15,240
Speaker 4: Plea for people to support HBCUs and this further supports

3230
02:37:15,280 --> 02:37:18,199
Speaker 4: the importance of these universities not only to black students.

3231
02:37:18,440 --> 02:37:20,400
Speaker 4: Before our country as a whole we probably give to

3232
02:37:20,520 --> 02:37:24,880
Speaker 4: this his alma mater, and now we are also, oh,

3233
02:37:24,959 --> 02:37:26,280
Speaker 4: and now we also give to y'all.

3234
02:37:26,600 --> 02:37:27,879
Speaker 3: Keep up the good work. Five stars.

3235
02:37:27,920 --> 02:37:30,880
Speaker 4: Appreciate your wit, candor, human inclusiveness, and willingness tackle on

3236
02:37:30,920 --> 02:37:32,080
Speaker 4: the subject or issue.

3237
02:37:32,640 --> 02:37:34,520
Speaker 3: Y'all are a national treasure. Thank you.

3238
02:37:34,560 --> 02:37:39,720
Speaker 4: Tiffany and the article I can't read it because obviously

3239
02:37:39,720 --> 02:37:42,480
Speaker 4: it will take a while. But the article is how

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02:37:42,560 --> 02:37:47,920
Speaker 4: did a North Carolina I think it's about HBC using.

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02:37:47,879 --> 02:37:50,040
Speaker 3: Engineering Hold on, I'm waiting on this shit to love

3242
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Speaker 3: to take.

3243
02:37:50,560 --> 02:37:56,880
Speaker 2: That's the thing about anti anti is they.

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02:37:55,360 --> 02:37:58,400
Speaker 5: Big on that that And I think I don't know

3245
02:37:58,480 --> 02:37:59,160
Speaker 5: if it's changed.

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02:37:59,440 --> 02:38:03,119
Speaker 2: Fields State was considered North Carolina's talk teaching college particularly

3247
02:38:03,160 --> 02:38:05,240
Speaker 2: for black people and all.

3248
02:38:05,760 --> 02:38:08,199
Speaker 5: It's a lot of these white universities that know this shit.

3249
02:38:08,440 --> 02:38:10,720
Speaker 5: So a lot of them have their eye on us.

3250
02:38:10,840 --> 02:38:13,119
Speaker 2: That's why a lot of them want to quote unquote

3251
02:38:13,160 --> 02:38:17,320
Speaker 2: get us into their UNC system and like Fable State,

3252
02:38:17,360 --> 02:38:19,920
Speaker 2: want to change the name, want to acquire us to

3253
02:38:20,040 --> 02:38:20,920
Speaker 2: make them look better.

3254
02:38:21,640 --> 02:38:23,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, and the article is on The Undefeated is how

3255
02:38:23,600 --> 02:38:26,000
Speaker 4: did North Carolina anti be kind of country's leading producer

3256
02:38:26,080 --> 02:38:28,040
Speaker 4: of black engineer care?

3257
02:38:30,240 --> 02:38:33,600
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's long, so I can't read it all.

3258
02:38:33,760 --> 02:38:38,760
Speaker 3: But yeah, man, that's one reason we got to support

3259
02:38:38,840 --> 02:38:41,800
Speaker 3: HBCUs Man. People just think it's anyway.

3260
02:38:41,840 --> 02:38:43,640
Speaker 4: I don't want to readhash the whole thing because I'm

3261
02:38:43,640 --> 02:38:48,959
Speaker 4: gonna just get mad. Elizabeth Wright saying hello rider care,

3262
02:38:49,400 --> 02:38:52,960
Speaker 4: Hello listeners, and co host, I love you and walk

3263
02:38:53,000 --> 02:38:55,040
Speaker 4: and Dad and this is us slash Hot. I just

3264
02:38:55,160 --> 02:38:57,560
Speaker 4: wanted to thank you all for enhancing my life in

3265
02:38:57,640 --> 02:38:59,800
Speaker 4: the most marvelous way. Shout out to the Little Brothers

3266
02:39:00,000 --> 02:39:02,800
Speaker 4: introducing me to the Blackout Tips LB in the house.

3267
02:39:04,800 --> 02:39:06,760
Speaker 4: I love your last the way you both laugh and

3268
02:39:06,800 --> 02:39:08,840
Speaker 4: the things you laugh at. And I'm so grateful for

3269
02:39:08,920 --> 02:39:11,360
Speaker 4: your perspectives and the way you get you guessed and

3270
02:39:11,440 --> 02:39:12,920
Speaker 4: listen to share so open heartedly.

3271
02:39:13,280 --> 02:39:14,039
Speaker 3: I live in the UK.

3272
02:39:14,160 --> 02:39:16,240
Speaker 4: Shout out to the British dude that called in so

3273
02:39:16,400 --> 02:39:18,520
Speaker 4: glad he is putting his mental health first, but I

3274
02:39:18,640 --> 02:39:19,440
Speaker 4: was born in Kenya.

3275
02:39:19,440 --> 02:39:22,520
Speaker 3: Shout out to Barack Obama Senior. And it is thrilling

3276
02:39:22,600 --> 02:39:24,560
Speaker 3: to connect with black people across the pond.

3277
02:39:24,879 --> 02:39:26,800
Speaker 4: It cracks me up when you read white people news

3278
02:39:26,840 --> 02:39:28,840
Speaker 4: from British sources and you both have no idea what

3279
02:39:28,959 --> 02:39:32,160
Speaker 4: y'all talking about. I can't tell the girl from the Pound.

3280
02:39:32,400 --> 02:39:36,520
Speaker 4: I don't know what's going on. Symbol just a dumb

3281
02:39:36,600 --> 02:39:38,320
Speaker 4: ass American, y'all for real.

3282
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Speaker 3: I'll try to I A yeah, I'm just uh.

3283
02:39:43,400 --> 02:39:46,959
Speaker 4: I love the way Rod refuses to pronounce Kylie Minnigill's name.

3284
02:39:47,080 --> 02:39:50,280
Speaker 4: I don't know how you pronounced it, cracking up all

3285
02:39:50,360 --> 02:39:51,400
Speaker 4: over again thinking about it.

3286
02:39:51,840 --> 02:39:54,320
Speaker 3: Lol. Who both of y'all are brilliant everywhere.

3287
02:39:54,360 --> 02:39:56,440
Speaker 4: I love your dynamic and I'm too old, but I

3288
02:39:56,520 --> 02:39:59,560
Speaker 4: consider myself adopted it to the TBGWT family. You all

3289
02:39:59,600 --> 02:40:02,000
Speaker 4: adopted than to mine. Thank you for the puns and

3290
02:40:02,080 --> 02:40:04,600
Speaker 4: period positivity. Thank you for hashtag day walking in.

3291
02:40:04,680 --> 02:40:05,520
Speaker 3: Thanks for this too much.

3292
02:40:05,520 --> 02:40:08,560
Speaker 4: Shout out to BOSSI I am biased, but beth Is

3293
02:40:09,400 --> 02:40:12,280
Speaker 4: of the is is the best character ever?

3294
02:40:12,879 --> 02:40:14,760
Speaker 3: Oh yo? If this is us, yes she is the

3295
02:40:14,800 --> 02:40:17,879
Speaker 3: best character ever, and yes we all are that perfect

3296
02:40:18,280 --> 02:40:22,360
Speaker 3: with the manding mothers. How did the writers know? Did

3297
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Speaker 3: you know?

3298
02:40:24,120 --> 02:40:26,240
Speaker 2: Like, that's what happened when you get women, I try

3299
02:40:26,320 --> 02:40:28,400
Speaker 2: funny in the right room behind the cameras and shit

3300
02:40:28,520 --> 02:40:28,720
Speaker 2: like that.

3301
02:40:28,879 --> 02:40:30,600
Speaker 5: They keep it real. They're like, look, this is some

3302
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Speaker 5: real ship.

3303
02:40:32,120 --> 02:40:32,640
Speaker 3: Did you know this?

3304
02:40:32,800 --> 02:40:34,720
Speaker 4: On The Walking Dead, after Morgan killed Richard to try

3305
02:40:34,760 --> 02:40:36,760
Speaker 4: to explain himself to the leader of the Saviors, when

3306
02:40:36,800 --> 02:40:39,880
Speaker 4: Morgan stepped forward, the leader with the blonde bob flinched

3307
02:40:40,000 --> 02:40:41,440
Speaker 4: and backed up.

3308
02:40:41,560 --> 02:40:42,039
Speaker 2: He was.

3309
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Speaker 3: That's what clapping them. He was terror five of Morgan.

3310
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Speaker 3: Yes he will.

3311
02:40:49,920 --> 02:40:52,000
Speaker 4: You will be interested to see if and how they

3312
02:40:52,080 --> 02:40:55,480
Speaker 4: feed Richard's death back to me and okay, I'll stop

3313
02:40:55,879 --> 02:40:58,440
Speaker 4: Love Love, Love beth at how about Beth on Twitter?

3314
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Speaker 3: Ps?

3315
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Speaker 4: Please check your Iune reviews. Oh okay, we need to

3316
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Speaker 4: check from the UK.

3317
02:41:05,080 --> 02:41:07,080
Speaker 5: I guess yeah, because yeah.

3318
02:41:07,440 --> 02:41:10,600
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, all right, I'll try to. I'll see if

3319
02:41:10,600 --> 02:41:12,120
Speaker 4: I can check it before we get off the air.

3320
02:41:12,400 --> 02:41:17,760
Speaker 3: In the background, it's not forget. I'm all right, Horatio

3321
02:41:17,920 --> 02:41:19,920
Speaker 3: right saying love your podcast.

3322
02:41:20,040 --> 02:41:22,320
Speaker 4: Have a question to pose? Hi caring to Rod. First

3323
02:41:22,360 --> 02:41:23,440
Speaker 4: of all, I just wanted to thank you for doing

3324
02:41:23,480 --> 02:41:24,440
Speaker 4: such an awesome show.

3325
02:41:24,320 --> 02:41:25,240
Speaker 3: With the podcast.

3326
02:41:25,640 --> 02:41:28,160
Speaker 4: I found you too at a time December twenty sixteen

3327
02:41:28,200 --> 02:41:31,119
Speaker 4: when I needed something authentically black as a respite from

3328
02:41:31,280 --> 02:41:34,560
Speaker 4: everything that has been going on in social, social politically

3329
02:41:34,760 --> 02:41:37,280
Speaker 4: this past year. On that topic, I have a question.

3330
02:41:37,760 --> 02:41:39,879
Speaker 4: Do you and my fellow listeners think that the other

3331
02:41:40,000 --> 02:41:43,120
Speaker 4: side doesn't give a damn about Russia. I don't mean

3332
02:41:43,200 --> 02:41:45,960
Speaker 4: our current administration, I mean the Republicans and probably some

3333
02:41:46,080 --> 02:41:49,279
Speaker 4: Hillary voters too. I'm beginning to believe, or rather acknowledge

3334
02:41:49,280 --> 02:41:51,920
Speaker 4: to myself that what I already believe, that Trump fans

3335
02:41:51,959 --> 02:41:54,440
Speaker 4: wouldn't object to a society that as identical to Russia.

3336
02:41:55,800 --> 02:41:57,959
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say this I don't know about the society

3337
02:41:58,000 --> 02:42:00,080
Speaker 4: being identical. What I will say is, if you I

3338
02:42:00,240 --> 02:42:03,160
Speaker 4: think them tires of Russia is about to stop people

3339
02:42:03,200 --> 02:42:08,120
Speaker 4: from supporting Trump. You got another motherfucker' surprizing store. They

3340
02:42:08,160 --> 02:42:11,080
Speaker 4: don't care about that shit. The only thing that will

3341
02:42:11,120 --> 02:42:14,320
Speaker 4: stop Donald Trump. Like people was like, it's his tax return.

3342
02:42:14,440 --> 02:42:16,760
Speaker 4: I was like, unless his tax return show he filled

3343
02:42:16,760 --> 02:42:19,960
Speaker 4: out black at the race, what the fuck are we

3344
02:42:20,040 --> 02:42:23,600
Speaker 4: talking about. Nobody cares. The kind of people that support Trump,

3345
02:42:23,720 --> 02:42:27,480
Speaker 4: for the most part, only care that he maintains his

3346
02:42:27,720 --> 02:42:32,320
Speaker 4: racial points of view and white power right, and he

3347
02:42:33,160 --> 02:42:36,680
Speaker 4: maintains his bigotry. Everything else they don't care. They don't

3348
02:42:36,680 --> 02:42:38,800
Speaker 4: care if they lose their health care, they don't care,

3349
02:42:38,800 --> 02:42:41,480
Speaker 4: if they can't go to playing parenthood. They don't care,

3350
02:42:41,480 --> 02:42:44,280
Speaker 4: if they lose their jobs, they don't care. The only

3351
02:42:44,360 --> 02:42:48,560
Speaker 4: thing they care about is keeping immigrants out, keeping Muslims out,

3352
02:42:50,280 --> 02:42:53,120
Speaker 4: keeping black and brown people. Sometimes form of a press

3353
02:42:54,640 --> 02:42:57,879
Speaker 4: he stripping the government of all programs that they think

3354
02:42:58,040 --> 02:43:01,360
Speaker 4: might benefit some black people somewhere posible, even if they

3355
02:43:01,480 --> 02:43:03,640
Speaker 4: on the program them fuck yourself. So like, yeah, dog,

3356
02:43:04,840 --> 02:43:07,360
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say no to any of this shit with

3357
02:43:07,480 --> 02:43:10,360
Speaker 4: its taxes, any of shit with Russia. None of this

3358
02:43:10,400 --> 02:43:13,000
Speaker 4: shit will be what brings Trump down at any level.

3359
02:43:13,920 --> 02:43:14,320
Speaker 3: Anyway.

3360
02:43:14,640 --> 02:43:16,760
Speaker 4: After that dawned on me, I'll realized that dull, of

3361
02:43:16,840 --> 02:43:19,560
Speaker 4: course they wouldn't object. It'd be a straight white, male

3362
02:43:19,680 --> 02:43:22,760
Speaker 4: Christian world. That's what make America great again means to

3363
02:43:22,879 --> 02:43:25,879
Speaker 4: supporters for Trump supporters who disagree with my assertion.

3364
02:43:25,640 --> 02:43:27,800
Speaker 3: And I doubt they I wildly object. I doubt any

3365
02:43:27,840 --> 02:43:31,640
Speaker 3: of them will hear this. I don't know that Trump

3366
02:43:31,680 --> 02:43:34,840
Speaker 3: supporters are big demo for the black Out Tips podcast

3367
02:43:35,480 --> 02:43:40,440
Speaker 3: up who disagree with myself.

3368
02:43:40,520 --> 02:43:42,920
Speaker 4: I thought they I would object to decreased diversity in

3369
02:43:43,000 --> 02:43:45,760
Speaker 4: the neighborhood, workplace, et cetera, let alone policies that directly

3370
02:43:45,800 --> 02:43:49,480
Speaker 4: hard black and brown people as well as our LGBTQ brothers, sisters. Why,

3371
02:43:49,600 --> 02:43:53,680
Speaker 4: because whiteness over everything is that default? Pre shod acquire

3372
02:43:53,720 --> 02:43:56,920
Speaker 4: basically right and writing this, I asked what, I think

3373
02:43:57,000 --> 02:43:59,879
Speaker 4: it's a hard question, and beyond a catastrophe from Trump,

3374
02:44:00,360 --> 02:44:03,000
Speaker 4: what leads to impea that leads to which leads to impeachment?

3375
02:44:03,640 --> 02:44:06,680
Speaker 4: And I don't even know if Piance would really take

3376
02:44:06,720 --> 02:44:10,040
Speaker 4: a different stance with Russia than when if he should

3377
02:44:10,040 --> 02:44:10,560
Speaker 4: take over.

3378
02:44:12,400 --> 02:44:14,720
Speaker 3: Right, are we not too late to stem this time?

3379
02:44:14,840 --> 02:44:17,400
Speaker 4: I mean, for real, you got dudes in power who

3380
02:44:17,480 --> 02:44:20,720
Speaker 4: have all but stated they want to be Russia. I

3381
02:44:20,760 --> 02:44:23,520
Speaker 4: don't feel powerless, but I also recognize the parallel situation

3382
02:44:23,640 --> 02:44:26,040
Speaker 4: of my minority status and in color an in number

3383
02:44:26,120 --> 02:44:29,080
Speaker 4: in the country still run by white males. And if

3384
02:44:29,120 --> 02:44:32,879
Speaker 4: we are truly on this path and that will continue

3385
02:44:32,959 --> 02:44:35,600
Speaker 4: for some time, where is the tipping point to where

3386
02:44:35,680 --> 02:44:39,000
Speaker 4: we know for certainty that this will be what we

3387
02:44:39,120 --> 02:44:41,400
Speaker 4: deal with for the next thirty forty fifty years.

3388
02:44:41,920 --> 02:44:48,560
Speaker 3: Peace or ratio black men? Yeah? Man, I personally feel like.

3389
02:44:50,320 --> 02:44:54,320
Speaker 4: This is that that point, and there will not being

3390
02:44:54,440 --> 02:44:57,760
Speaker 4: Nothing's gonna happen to change this, Like h for at

3391
02:44:57,840 --> 02:44:58,920
Speaker 4: least two to four years.

3392
02:44:59,240 --> 02:45:00,880
Speaker 3: This is the administry everybody stuck with.

3393
02:45:01,000 --> 02:45:03,800
Speaker 4: The Only thing that might happen is people start feeling

3394
02:45:03,840 --> 02:45:07,720
Speaker 4: the impacts of some of his changes, and then those

3395
02:45:07,800 --> 02:45:09,480
Speaker 4: people feel some sort.

3396
02:45:09,320 --> 02:45:13,280
Speaker 3: Of fight like I'm gonna fight back, you know what

3397
02:45:13,360 --> 02:45:15,440
Speaker 3: I mean. That's the only thing I could think of

3398
02:45:15,560 --> 02:45:17,279
Speaker 3: that would change anything is people being.

3399
02:45:17,200 --> 02:45:19,400
Speaker 4: Like, oh, my healthcare is fucked up and I'm a

3400
02:45:19,440 --> 02:45:22,320
Speaker 4: white person and I voted for Trump, or people that

3401
02:45:22,840 --> 02:45:26,360
Speaker 4: said both the same. I choose not to vote, things

3402
02:45:26,400 --> 02:45:29,000
Speaker 4: will be fucked up for them, and then they'll they'll say, Okay, well,

3403
02:45:29,040 --> 02:45:31,920
Speaker 4: now that things are fucked up for me, I feel

3404
02:45:32,000 --> 02:45:34,760
Speaker 4: like maybe it's time to get this dude out of office.

3405
02:45:36,480 --> 02:45:39,200
Speaker 2: All the other people who didn't have a chance and

3406
02:45:39,320 --> 02:45:40,800
Speaker 2: will immediately impacted by it.

3407
02:45:41,120 --> 02:45:45,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, but the way, but honestly, the way things are

3408
02:45:45,280 --> 02:45:47,440
Speaker 3: set up, with the way that.

3409
02:45:49,360 --> 02:45:52,600
Speaker 4: The Jerry Manning is gone, I don't know that there's

3410
02:45:52,720 --> 02:45:56,560
Speaker 4: gonna be this quick solution to any of this shit.

3411
02:45:57,280 --> 02:45:57,440
Speaker 5: You know.

3412
02:45:57,959 --> 02:46:03,000
Speaker 3: Fore like people for the most part that it's just hopeful.

3413
02:46:02,680 --> 02:46:07,160
Speaker 4: Wishing that or wishful thinking that wishing it is wishful

3414
02:46:07,240 --> 02:46:12,720
Speaker 4: thinking that somehow he'll be called the task and everybody's

3415
02:46:12,720 --> 02:46:17,000
Speaker 4: gonna realize like, oh, okay, actually he's a pretty bad guy.

3416
02:46:17,240 --> 02:46:17,400
Speaker 5: You know.

3417
02:46:17,640 --> 02:46:20,800
Speaker 4: I don't think it's gonna happen. Uh, Lashauna Wright saying Hi, right,

3418
02:46:20,879 --> 02:46:24,880
Speaker 4: how Karen? I didn't want anything. It's just been been

3419
02:46:25,040 --> 02:46:27,240
Speaker 4: since I rode in to tell you how wonderful you

3420
02:46:27,360 --> 02:46:29,400
Speaker 4: are and how great the podcast is. I'm premium and

3421
02:46:29,440 --> 02:46:32,440
Speaker 4: I'm loving these those shows as well. Are you are

3422
02:46:32,480 --> 02:46:34,200
Speaker 4: you coming to Awesome Kind this year? I'd love to

3423
02:46:34,240 --> 02:46:36,920
Speaker 4: get more photos and Karen hugs absolutely deying to do.

3424
02:46:37,240 --> 02:46:38,279
Speaker 4: We're planning to be there.

3425
02:46:39,800 --> 02:46:40,600
Speaker 3: June or July.

3426
02:46:41,760 --> 02:46:44,040
Speaker 2: I think the second weekend in June. I think let

3427
02:46:44,080 --> 02:46:45,880
Speaker 2: hold on, let me check while we're talking, so give

3428
02:46:45,920 --> 02:46:46,600
Speaker 2: people the right date.

3429
02:46:47,520 --> 02:46:54,160
Speaker 4: Okay, Well, yeah, we absolutely that is that is the plan.

3430
02:46:54,480 --> 02:47:00,560
Speaker 4: So uh if y'all are gonna gonna uh, if y'all

3431
02:47:00,600 --> 02:47:05,560
Speaker 4: are going to be there, then you know we we

3432
02:47:05,680 --> 02:47:08,879
Speaker 4: planned on being there. In the words of Michael McDonald,

3433
02:47:09,280 --> 02:47:14,000
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be there. So I also have a question

3434
02:47:14,200 --> 02:47:17,560
Speaker 4: whatever happened to with McCrory trying to strip the income

3435
02:47:17,600 --> 02:47:19,880
Speaker 4: and democratic governor of his power. I know in the

3436
02:47:20,080 --> 02:47:23,400
Speaker 4: December the court state the effort, but haven't heard anything

3437
02:47:23,400 --> 02:47:25,440
Speaker 4: about challenges to the stay or know that it was

3438
02:47:25,520 --> 02:47:27,920
Speaker 4: only a temporary stay. Have you guys heard anything in

3439
02:47:27,959 --> 02:47:32,200
Speaker 4: this regard keep the great Discovery? From my understanding, that

3440
02:47:32,320 --> 02:47:36,840
Speaker 4: shit was definitively like No, So I don't know. I

3441
02:47:36,879 --> 02:47:40,320
Speaker 4: haven't heard anything since, and I think we are probably

3442
02:47:40,360 --> 02:47:43,560
Speaker 4: in a circle where me and Karen would have heard.

3443
02:47:43,680 --> 02:47:45,840
Speaker 3: It's something most different, but I'll try to look into it.

3444
02:47:46,360 --> 02:47:48,520
Speaker 2: He heard people would have awesome con y'all for those

3445
02:47:48,600 --> 02:47:51,720
Speaker 2: of you that came last year, or you wanted to

3446
02:47:51,760 --> 02:47:52,880
Speaker 2: come and ash and you wouldn't come.

3447
02:47:52,920 --> 02:47:53,280
Speaker 5: Awesome.

3448
02:47:53,360 --> 02:47:57,400
Speaker 2: Cohn is June the sixteenth through the AH sixteenth through

3449
02:47:57,440 --> 02:47:58,039
Speaker 2: the eighteenth.

3450
02:47:59,400 --> 02:47:59,920
Speaker 5: I don't know.

3451
02:48:00,320 --> 02:48:02,400
Speaker 2: We don't know anything about the panel or anything like that.

3452
02:48:02,520 --> 02:48:04,560
Speaker 2: Once we get the information from Chris will let you

3453
02:48:04,640 --> 02:48:06,800
Speaker 2: guys know for the So for those of you that

3454
02:48:06,879 --> 02:48:09,800
Speaker 2: were thinking about it or planning on it, look for

3455
02:48:09,920 --> 02:48:10,400
Speaker 2: us to be there.

3456
02:48:11,080 --> 02:48:14,240
Speaker 4: Uh J full rights and who It is a long one,

3457
02:48:14,280 --> 02:48:16,879
Speaker 4: all right, here we go, HBCU budget?

3458
02:48:16,879 --> 02:48:17,160
Speaker 5: What up?

3459
02:48:17,240 --> 02:48:19,440
Speaker 4: Queen care and the spouse ride. I tried to leave

3460
02:48:19,480 --> 02:48:22,040
Speaker 4: a voicemail, but the prompt never came up. Just kept ringing.

3461
02:48:22,320 --> 02:48:25,440
Speaker 3: Hopefully I can make my point without an overly long email.

3462
02:48:25,879 --> 02:48:28,760
Speaker 3: You know what, man, people Uh, I don't know what happened.

3463
02:48:28,800 --> 02:48:31,760
Speaker 3: People got the prompt. Other people have voicemails. I don't know.

3464
02:48:32,080 --> 02:48:34,760
Speaker 3: Something happening off voicemail will figure it out. I don't know.

3465
02:48:35,400 --> 02:48:37,359
Speaker 5: I don't know if it got full. It's electronics.

3466
02:48:37,560 --> 02:48:38,440
Speaker 3: No, I don't think it does.

3467
02:48:38,600 --> 02:48:41,560
Speaker 5: Okay, Oh, so that's the oldness in me going. The

3468
02:48:41,840 --> 02:48:42,600
Speaker 5: smel got full?

3469
02:48:42,640 --> 02:48:46,080
Speaker 4: Baby, I'm sorry the tape had to pop up, flip on,

3470
02:48:46,720 --> 02:48:47,320
Speaker 4: That's all I'm thinking.

3471
02:48:47,360 --> 02:48:50,240
Speaker 3: Of hold, it's a double side of tape.

3472
02:48:51,160 --> 02:48:54,040
Speaker 4: So forty five releases budget at HBCUs didn't get the

3473
02:48:54,080 --> 02:48:56,320
Speaker 4: increase In funny, they requested a peil. Grants for summer

3474
02:48:56,360 --> 02:49:00,720
Speaker 4: classes will slash four billion dollars. The grad issue is

3475
02:49:00,720 --> 02:49:02,720
Speaker 4: the most disturbing to me. I'll share a quick story.

3476
02:49:03,080 --> 02:49:05,480
Speaker 4: A friend of mine was a former president of a

3477
02:49:05,560 --> 02:49:08,800
Speaker 4: large HBCU in a Republican state who ultimately got run

3478
02:49:08,879 --> 02:49:11,240
Speaker 4: off her job by the board of trustees. Their beef

3479
02:49:11,320 --> 02:49:14,199
Speaker 4: was a difference in belief of the school's secondary mission.

3480
02:49:14,480 --> 02:49:16,120
Speaker 4: She felt that the schools should continue to do what

3481
02:49:16,160 --> 02:49:18,800
Speaker 4: it's always done, provide black people in other underserved groups

3482
02:49:18,840 --> 02:49:21,760
Speaker 4: of college education. As a result, the school sometimes admitted

3483
02:49:21,800 --> 02:49:24,720
Speaker 4: many students that probably would have had trouble getting in elsewhere.

3484
02:49:25,360 --> 02:49:28,600
Speaker 4: Another friend, who works in the student affairs department, was

3485
02:49:28,720 --> 02:49:31,199
Speaker 4: telling me how a lot of these types of students

3486
02:49:31,280 --> 02:49:33,440
Speaker 4: need extra classes to even be brought up to college

3487
02:49:33,560 --> 02:49:36,040
Speaker 4: level because of the poor educations they received prior to college.

3488
02:49:36,440 --> 02:49:38,640
Speaker 4: Two things happen because of this. The students take longer

3489
02:49:38,680 --> 02:49:41,040
Speaker 4: to graduate We're talking maybe an extra semestic compared to

3490
02:49:41,120 --> 02:49:43,560
Speaker 4: the state average. And the students need to take summer

3491
02:49:43,600 --> 02:49:46,680
Speaker 4: classes The state legislature was also at ours with the

3492
02:49:46,720 --> 02:49:48,879
Speaker 4: school and was constantly trying to find reasons to cut

3493
02:49:48,920 --> 02:49:51,640
Speaker 4: their budget. The Republican state congressman tried to use that

3494
02:49:51,760 --> 02:49:53,880
Speaker 4: as proof that the school is failing and reasons to

3495
02:49:53,959 --> 02:49:56,680
Speaker 4: cut the funding. The sad thing is that the university

3496
02:49:56,720 --> 02:49:59,080
Speaker 4: trustees sided with the money instead of doing what is right.

3497
02:50:00,000 --> 02:50:03,200
Speaker 4: Area that I think this cut is ampl funding is

3498
02:50:03,240 --> 02:50:06,680
Speaker 4: going to affect is HBCU STEM students. I don't know

3499
02:50:06,920 --> 02:50:11,040
Speaker 4: how kids do it today, but back when I was

3500
02:50:11,120 --> 02:50:13,199
Speaker 4: in an undergrad, it was best to take the hardest

3501
02:50:13,640 --> 02:50:18,160
Speaker 4: STEM classes in the summer, where you're only taking one

3502
02:50:18,200 --> 02:50:19,800
Speaker 4: to two classes, right, it is.

3503
02:50:19,800 --> 02:50:23,400
Speaker 2: A short period of time, and so I realized that

3504
02:50:23,520 --> 02:50:25,080
Speaker 2: too when it was at Fiel's State.

3505
02:50:25,400 --> 02:50:27,480
Speaker 5: I didn't go to summer class because there's lot of scholarships.

3506
02:50:27,480 --> 02:50:28,320
Speaker 5: Like you said, we went paid for.

3507
02:50:28,320 --> 02:50:31,720
Speaker 2: Summer school, But a lot of people who got loans

3508
02:50:31,760 --> 02:50:34,920
Speaker 2: and shit like that did their really complex classes because

3509
02:50:34,920 --> 02:50:36,880
Speaker 2: they know it's a short period of time.

3510
02:50:37,280 --> 02:50:40,120
Speaker 5: It's condensed. You know a lot of teachers they're not

3511
02:50:40,240 --> 02:50:41,439
Speaker 5: as hard because.

3512
02:50:41,160 --> 02:50:43,480
Speaker 2: They know they only have a limited amount of time

3513
02:50:43,560 --> 02:50:44,680
Speaker 2: to cover a limited amount of shit.

3514
02:50:44,720 --> 02:50:47,920
Speaker 4: In the summertime, Also, you don't have as many classes

3515
02:50:47,959 --> 02:50:50,600
Speaker 4: that you're taking, so you can you can concentrate on

3516
02:50:50,680 --> 02:50:56,119
Speaker 4: those one of two classes. So yeah, you have access

3517
02:50:56,160 --> 02:50:58,959
Speaker 4: to professors and tas that have smaller class sizes. Lastly,

3518
02:50:59,360 --> 02:51:01,680
Speaker 4: there's always talk about lack of diversity in tech. If

3519
02:51:01,720 --> 02:51:05,160
Speaker 4: the Zuckerbergs and Google Googles of the world are really

3520
02:51:05,200 --> 02:51:08,680
Speaker 4: serious about increasing diversity, now's a great time to come together.

3521
02:51:08,480 --> 02:51:11,640
Speaker 3: And increase their donation to HBCUs. Sadly, I don't think

3522
02:51:11,680 --> 02:51:11,920
Speaker 3: they are.

3523
02:51:12,040 --> 02:51:14,560
Speaker 4: Facebook has less than one hundred and fifty black employees

3524
02:51:14,600 --> 02:51:17,720
Speaker 4: out of eighty five hundred. That's not even two percent,

3525
02:51:18,120 --> 02:51:20,360
Speaker 4: shaking my head, But that's a story for another day.

3526
02:51:20,800 --> 02:51:23,400
Speaker 4: What's four billion to a company like Apple? Even if

3527
02:51:23,440 --> 02:51:25,880
Speaker 4: they only did it for the good pr it'd be

3528
02:51:25,959 --> 02:51:26,879
Speaker 4: tremendously helpful.

3529
02:51:28,560 --> 02:51:30,760
Speaker 3: Love the show. I like how you added links to

3530
02:51:30,959 --> 02:51:33,240
Speaker 3: all his points, like we believe you.

3531
02:51:33,640 --> 02:51:35,920
Speaker 4: He'd be like, listen, here's a Facebook link just in

3532
02:51:36,040 --> 02:51:38,080
Speaker 4: case no alternative facts in this joint.

3533
02:51:38,800 --> 02:51:39,480
Speaker 3: I love the show.

3534
02:51:39,560 --> 02:51:42,800
Speaker 4: Can't believe y'all are almost at fifteen hundred episodes. Some

3535
02:51:42,920 --> 02:51:44,760
Speaker 4: of these corporate back shows don't even make it one

3536
02:51:44,840 --> 02:51:47,680
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty yr. Hard work and dedication is much appreciated.

3537
02:51:48,560 --> 02:51:50,680
Speaker 4: And one more thing, Brent Voice, did y'all peat the

3538
02:51:50,760 --> 02:51:54,160
Speaker 4: article about NCAAT producing the most black engineers? Well, it's

3539
02:51:54,240 --> 02:51:58,320
Speaker 4: a cohincidence. You said that literally two emails for this. Yep,

3540
02:51:58,840 --> 02:52:01,520
Speaker 4: repeat it because I think because I work in the

3541
02:52:01,560 --> 02:52:04,640
Speaker 4: stem field. But y'all already know that forty five cuts

3542
02:52:04,680 --> 02:52:08,400
Speaker 4: the Arts and Humanities budgets will definitely hurt hbc US more.

3543
02:52:08,520 --> 02:52:10,720
Speaker 4: Fuck him and his whole crews policies I reminiscent of

3544
02:52:10,760 --> 02:52:13,720
Speaker 4: communists China, where they targeted intellectuals so they could get

3545
02:52:13,720 --> 02:52:16,960
Speaker 4: a large uneducated labor for Sadly, the way his base

3546
02:52:17,040 --> 02:52:18,920
Speaker 4: doesn't give a fuck about facts in the pursuit of

3547
02:52:19,040 --> 02:52:20,960
Speaker 4: truth and knowledge is being called.

3548
02:52:21,280 --> 02:52:23,760
Speaker 3: Uh, it's called being a liberal elitist. It looks like

3549
02:52:23,800 --> 02:52:24,280
Speaker 3: it's working.

3550
02:52:24,360 --> 02:52:28,200
Speaker 4: J Full, J Full, And yeah, everything he said, man,

3551
02:52:28,280 --> 02:52:29,440
Speaker 4: the pelgrams and stuff.

3552
02:52:29,480 --> 02:52:33,320
Speaker 3: And here's the thing, man, Uh, I.

3553
02:52:33,400 --> 02:52:35,280
Speaker 4: Just feel like everything I said on the on that

3554
02:52:35,600 --> 02:52:40,600
Speaker 4: podcast about the HBCUs just come to fruition because look

3555
02:52:40,680 --> 02:52:44,600
Speaker 4: at what he did, just completely gut look at the

3556
02:52:44,680 --> 02:52:48,360
Speaker 4: programs where he just went fuck the fuck everything about

3557
02:52:48,879 --> 02:52:50,240
Speaker 4: meals on wheels and all.

3558
02:52:50,120 --> 02:52:51,960
Speaker 3: This shit, Like, yeah, Yo, what is it?

3559
02:52:52,160 --> 02:52:52,520
Speaker 5: NPR?

3560
02:52:53,280 --> 02:52:55,240
Speaker 2: I mean, and the thing about a lot of this shit,

3561
02:52:55,320 --> 02:52:57,920
Speaker 2: he couldn't I think it says like point or like

3562
02:52:58,120 --> 02:53:02,480
Speaker 2: it's such a small but each other overall budget, right,

3563
02:53:02,840 --> 02:53:05,280
Speaker 2: But the shit that you actually need to cut, you're

3564
02:53:05,320 --> 02:53:07,240
Speaker 2: not cutting, right.

3565
02:53:07,560 --> 02:53:12,480
Speaker 4: So I mean, look, I just can't imagine what would

3566
02:53:12,480 --> 02:53:14,640
Speaker 4: happen if they didn't go That's all I'm saying.

3567
02:53:15,040 --> 02:53:15,520
Speaker 3: Who knows?

3568
02:53:15,680 --> 02:53:18,240
Speaker 4: I think this administration is willing to do a lot

3569
02:53:18,280 --> 02:53:21,720
Speaker 4: of unprecedented shit, and people keep laughing it off and

3570
02:53:21,840 --> 02:53:23,520
Speaker 4: keep thinking he's predictable, and they keep.

3571
02:53:23,400 --> 02:53:25,320
Speaker 3: Thinking that so like it's not a big deal.

3572
02:53:25,840 --> 02:53:29,080
Speaker 4: I don't know that there will be HBCUs in eight years,

3573
02:53:31,200 --> 02:53:33,320
Speaker 4: but I do know for a fact if he would

3574
02:53:33,360 --> 02:53:37,640
Speaker 4: have gutted everything right now there with him gutting so

3575
02:53:37,760 --> 02:53:39,920
Speaker 4: many other programs, I don't know that people will find

3576
02:53:40,480 --> 02:53:44,119
Speaker 4: prioritized the amount of money needed to keep funding HBCUs

3577
02:53:44,240 --> 02:53:48,760
Speaker 4: for the next four to eight years. Last email, Jared

3578
02:53:48,879 --> 02:53:51,600
Speaker 4: right saying, so this was originally supposed to be a

3579
02:53:51,680 --> 02:53:53,640
Speaker 4: voicemail with the two of us calling in, but it's

3580
02:53:53,640 --> 02:53:56,120
Speaker 4: been a crazy week. I know y'all hear this a lot,

3581
02:53:56,280 --> 02:54:00,440
Speaker 4: but you really mean a lot to us I won't. Yeah,

3582
02:54:00,520 --> 02:54:02,120
Speaker 4: this is called early on the first morning of a

3583
02:54:02,200 --> 02:54:05,920
Speaker 4: new life. I won't speak for Charnell. I hope I

3584
02:54:06,040 --> 02:54:08,640
Speaker 4: pronounced it right Charnell because the ch so it could

3585
02:54:08,680 --> 02:54:12,360
Speaker 4: be Charnell or Charnell. But I know for me, you

3586
02:54:12,800 --> 02:54:15,880
Speaker 4: help me approach life in a more mindful, accepted manner.

3587
02:54:16,480 --> 02:54:19,120
Speaker 4: All of this whole helping me grow to live and

3588
02:54:19,200 --> 02:54:23,720
Speaker 4: accept my black ass self more and more. What y'all

3589
02:54:23,800 --> 02:54:25,959
Speaker 4: say about wokeness being a journey is true. I've had

3590
02:54:26,040 --> 02:54:28,760
Speaker 4: problematic positions, been stubborn to use my privilege to silence

3591
02:54:28,800 --> 02:54:30,840
Speaker 4: of others. But I try to do better every day,

3592
02:54:32,879 --> 02:54:35,920
Speaker 4: literally check myself and listen to and amplify those who

3593
02:54:36,080 --> 02:54:37,360
Speaker 4: live their truest lives.

3594
02:54:37,840 --> 02:54:39,560
Speaker 3: But all of this is a distraction from the very

3595
02:54:39,600 --> 02:54:41,120
Speaker 3: selfish reason I wrote this email.

3596
02:54:41,959 --> 02:54:47,120
Speaker 4: I'm getting married today, y'all congratulation. Probably sometime after y'all do.

3597
02:54:47,200 --> 02:54:49,240
Speaker 4: The feedback show will be starting the ceremony, and I

3598
02:54:49,320 --> 02:54:51,600
Speaker 4: won't hopefully. I want it, hopefully to get this in

3599
02:54:51,800 --> 02:54:55,279
Speaker 4: time so that on our flight home, my beautiful, wonderful

3600
02:54:55,440 --> 02:55:01,000
Speaker 4: new wife Charnelle Monique Smoke Page a FO could hear

3601
02:55:01,120 --> 02:55:05,240
Speaker 4: this and get all all happy and Teia. She's the

3602
02:55:05,280 --> 02:55:07,240
Speaker 4: one that introduced me to your show and it has

3603
02:55:07,320 --> 02:55:10,600
Speaker 4: been a source of growth, discussion, and joy between the

3604
02:55:10,680 --> 02:55:13,240
Speaker 4: two of us for the last two years. I look

3605
02:55:13,320 --> 02:55:16,200
Speaker 4: forward to many happy nights and morning listening and learning

3606
02:55:16,240 --> 02:55:19,720
Speaker 4: and laughing with you all. And like I said, I'm

3607
02:55:19,760 --> 02:55:21,680
Speaker 4: not pronouncing it wrong, so I'm gonna say it both ways.

3608
02:55:21,800 --> 02:55:27,320
Speaker 4: Charnelle Charnell and Slash Charnell stay golden, y'all And Charnelle

3609
02:55:27,360 --> 02:55:30,800
Speaker 4: Slash Charnell, Monique smoke Page, thanks for introducing me to

3610
02:55:30,920 --> 02:55:33,880
Speaker 4: this show. We hope to see you at Awesome cond

3611
02:55:33,959 --> 02:55:36,800
Speaker 4: this year since she missed out last time. Oh my gosh,

3612
02:55:37,520 --> 02:55:39,960
Speaker 4: that's who it is. Remember he told us that she

3613
02:55:40,160 --> 02:55:42,160
Speaker 4: was she couldn't make it. He was like, oh, she

3614
02:55:42,280 --> 02:55:44,360
Speaker 4: loved the show and he was by itself.

3615
02:55:44,840 --> 02:55:45,560
Speaker 5: That's who it is.

3616
02:55:48,800 --> 02:55:51,800
Speaker 4: Well, thank you very much, Jared Michael smoke Page man,

3617
02:55:52,680 --> 02:55:54,640
Speaker 4: and hopefully we see you at Awesome Coln too.

3618
02:55:54,760 --> 02:55:54,960
Speaker 2: Man.

3619
02:55:55,160 --> 02:55:59,520
Speaker 3: Yah, oh that is that's awesome looking forward to yep,

3620
02:55:59,720 --> 02:56:02,119
Speaker 3: So congratulations to both of you guys. What a great

3621
02:56:02,160 --> 02:56:05,640
Speaker 3: way to end the show. Y all right, Well we're

3622
02:56:05,680 --> 02:56:07,320
Speaker 3: out of here, guys. We'll be back tomorrow.

3623
02:56:08,520 --> 02:56:10,600
Speaker 4: And like I said, we'll be doing this too much. Tomorrow,

3624
02:56:10,680 --> 02:56:13,280
Speaker 4: me and Bossy. What is along with three hours before

3625
02:56:13,400 --> 02:56:15,600
Speaker 4: y'all could talk? All right, guys, We'll talked to you

3626
02:56:15,600 --> 02:56:16,120
Speaker 4: all tomorrow.

3627
02:56:16,160 --> 02:56:17,160
Speaker 3: Until then, Love you,