1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: It's that time. 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 2: Time time, time, Luck and load. The Michael Verie Show 3 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 2: is on the air. This Mark is our guest. 4 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 3: We're going to talk about how to reach him, how 5 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 3: to learn more about his positions. And by the way, folks, 6 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 3: I've always said, in twenty years of doing this, I 7 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 3: have always said, I am never going to tell you 8 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 3: or try to tell you. I wouldn't be so immodestous 9 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 3: to believe that I could tell you anything that you'd 10 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 3: do anyway. But I'm never going to tell you what 11 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 3: to think. I'm only going to ask that you think. 12 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 3: And if you're getting your opinion by the same people 13 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 3: who told you to take the COVID shot, the same 14 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 3: people who told you that Joe Biden was perfectly lucid. 15 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 3: Are the same people that told you that Kamala Harris 16 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 3: was sober? Or the same people who we can go 17 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 3: on and on. I play this game forever. 18 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: If that's the. 19 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 3: Case, at least at least seeks some alternate positions. Because 20 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 3: you said something when I said, you said that you're 21 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 3: not a climate change denier, that you consider yourself lukewarm, 22 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 3: I'm going to make a statement I don't know you, 23 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 3: and it is intended to be a touch provocative, But 24 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 3: that doesn't mean I don't believe it. I think that 25 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,199 Speaker 3: a lot of people I won't speak for you, even 26 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:31,559 Speaker 3: who've studied the science. It's sort of like why people 27 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 3: are agnostic instead of atheistic. 28 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: I think that a lot of. 29 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 3: People don't want to say it's all bunk, it's all 30 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 3: a hoax, because then they will be marginalized even if 31 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 3: they believe that. Is that a fair thing to say? 32 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's an accurate characteristic of it. There's 33 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 4: a well organized effort we're in the scientific community to 34 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 4: sensor people who cast out on their religion, their orthodoxy. 35 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 4: And while I firmly am not of the opinion that 36 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 4: it's all a hoax, I think a lot of the 37 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 4: policies and well, I wouldn't even say a hoax would 38 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 4: be an accurate description. I would call it more so 39 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 4: a scam. That's a more that's more of an accurate 40 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 4: attitude to describe this entire thing. Now, I wouldn't say 41 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 4: that the science isn't necessarily a scam, because there's a 42 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 4: legitimate basis to it, and I firmly in an agreement 43 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 4: with that point and off the record, but a lot 44 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 4: of the policies, these green energy policies could very well, 45 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 4: I would very much agree, be characterized as a scam 46 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 4: because they're not going to make our standard living better. 47 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 4: But as far as the scientific side of things go, 48 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 4: we need even questioned just a little bit of their narrative. 49 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 4: With a lot of these scientists, these high priests of 50 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 4: climate science, it's the Church of chromatology, as Secretary of 51 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 4: Chris Wright Like Energy Secretary of Chris Like described it 52 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 4: on CNN to Caplin Collins last week. Again, this goes 53 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 4: back to what we were talking about before. When we 54 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 4: decided to put Congress in charge of allocating and apportioning 55 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 4: money to scientists to study this issue. We put policy 56 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 4: goals as the UH desire, policy goals as really what's 57 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 4: in charge of determining new scientific results. And so we 58 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 4: have a whole army of science that's at universities and 59 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 4: in the government who their careers depend on getting that 60 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 4: funding and if their research comes up empty on there 61 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 4: being a quote unquote climate crisis, well, their livelihoods the 62 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 4: right stake. And people like me who have no stakes 63 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 4: in this game because I'm not in a university and 64 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 4: I'm not lying not any longer because i just graduated 65 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 4: with my Bachelors of Science degree in atmospheric science, but 66 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 4: because I'm not a government employee, because I'm not an academic, 67 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 4: I have those stakes, financial stakes in this game. And 68 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 4: people like me, other meteriologists like me that are out 69 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 4: there speaking truth about this and being honest about it, 70 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 4: we put their careers on the line, other careers on 71 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 4: the line, and it makes them angry because we are 72 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 4: spilling the beans and upsets them because that could you know, 73 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 4: they could lose their funding if if a new administration, 74 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 4: the current administration needs a lot of this stuff to 75 00:03:58,520 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 4: be focused. 76 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: I think that's fair. 77 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 3: I'm just always disturbed when there are subjects about which 78 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 3: we're not supposed to talk or question the narrative. I'm 79 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 3: always uncomfortable when there needs to be a universality of agreement. 80 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 3: I don't think there's universality of agreement or complete consensus 81 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 3: as to color the color of the sky, much less 82 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 3: the best birth control, whether the Pfizer shot worked, whether 83 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 3: global warming is a hope. And it's this idea that 84 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 3: if you so much as ask about it, it's a 85 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 3: Salem witch trial. You know, you need to be buried 86 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 3: at the state. And I find that to be like 87 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 3: an ad hominem attack. When someone is debating you, it's 88 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 3: a sign of great weakness and unsteady ground that they're on. 89 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 4: Absolutely, it's about I'm thinking, Sam, I mean, I cannot 90 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 4: be question is not science. It's propaganda. And that's the 91 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 4: words of Aaron Aaron Rodgers. And I think that anybody 92 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 4: should be able to question anything. And that's that's the value. 93 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 4: That's the value, the beauty of the First Amendment, which 94 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 4: guarantees the right to freedom of speech in this country. 95 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 4: And and that's an important aspect of science. Science is 96 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 4: not science is never in the history of human civilization. 97 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 4: Science is never advanced by experts. And I use that 98 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 4: term lightly. Of course. Science is never advanced by people 99 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 4: throwing their hands up in the air and agreeing with 100 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 4: each other. Science always advances when somebody comes forth with 101 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 4: new information that challenges the status quo, and people like uh, 102 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 4: you know, Galileo and people other people to hick. The 103 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 4: guy that proposed I don't know his name, but the 104 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 4: guy that pros the idea of washing your hands to 105 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 4: prevent material affections and stuff like that, he was She 106 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 4: was shown by the community for decades and he ended 107 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 4: up being right, So science. 108 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 3: Always and he reduced he reduced surgery about like ninety 109 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 3: nine percent. 110 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 1: It was such a simple thing. 111 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, yeah. And when you when you redd when 112 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 4: you cannot question that, and that becomes that becomes a problem. 113 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 4: And there's been an organ effort, especially within the climate 114 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 4: community and then obviously not my realm of knowledge, but 115 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 4: the medical community. We saw this with COVID. There were 116 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 4: very striking parallels between the censorship that went on during 117 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 4: the pandemic and the censorship that is going that had 118 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 4: been going off with climate for decades. And there's a 119 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 4: big political agenda behind a lot of this. It's about 120 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 4: control and power and the scientists who are perpetuating these ideologies, 121 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 4: their careers, their their their money, their salaries, their their research, 122 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 4: all of it depends on government funding and it's and 123 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 4: and they they're part of this system. Whether or not 124 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 4: they uh want, whether or not they actually want to 125 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 4: be a part of it or not for that purpose, 126 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 4: is definitely a debate to be had. There's probably a 127 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 4: lot of people in there who really want to be 128 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 4: honest about it, but if they were to speak out, uh, 129 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 4: their careers are over, and so we've created this conversation. 130 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 4: Revn having on the conversation, we've created a dialogue that's toxic, 131 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 4: and it's been very detrimental to the progress of science, 132 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 4: and it pretty much a violation of, you know, our 133 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 4: fundamental freedoms we have in this country that we cherish. 134 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 3: I think the thing that bothers me most most, Chris 135 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 3: Marts is our guest. I think the thing that bothers 136 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 3: me most is is not just that journalists who should 137 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 3: be fact seekers truth tellers to the extent that they 138 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 3: can find it, which means after investigation. It's not just 139 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 3: that they try to marginalize and in some cases destroy 140 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 3: the careers of people who simply raise questions. 141 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: It's that people do it in the name. 142 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 3: Of science that I find downright blasphemous, because while I'm 143 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 3: not a scientist, purely and simply, the scientific method and 144 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 3: the means by which we advance civilization means questioning everything. 145 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 3: And you know that there were there were great scientists 146 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 3: who were burned at the stake, or those who had 147 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 3: to change their opinion at the last moment. 148 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: To avoid it. Galileo among them, Newton among them. 149 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 3: Descartes and and and that's that level of courage, bravery 150 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 3: and willingness to challenge is how society advances to where 151 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 3: we are today. Our guest is Chris Marts. Hopefully he'll 152 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 3: stay with us for one more second thing. 153 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:27,559 Speaker 5: You you, Michael Barry, you are to ring the King's English. 154 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: Chris Marts is our guest. M A R t Z. 155 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 3: I found him on Twitter. It's not it's not all bad. 156 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 3: Social media is not all bad. I follow people who 157 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 3: pop up in my threads saying something interesting. I go 158 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 3: figure out, who is this person? What else have they written? 159 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 3: Is it consistent? Who's paying their bills? Who are they, 160 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 3: you know, trying to cozy up to? And I was 161 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 3: very very interested in what this fellow had to say. 162 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 3: I want to get into who you are in just 163 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 3: a moment. But you had a tweet it was actually uh. 164 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 3: It says, then why does the co two level increase 165 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 3: year after year? I know why, But none of you 166 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:03,719 Speaker 3: wants to address the elephant in the room because you're 167 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 3: too afraid to criticize the CCP. 168 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: This is a discussion that should be. 169 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 3: Had more often, and isn't I would love for you 170 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 3: to speak to that. 171 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, so that goes This is actually all I posted 172 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 4: this morning on Twitter or ex or whatever you want 173 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 4: to call it. And when we talk about carbon dioxide, 174 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 4: now let's just hypothetically, And again it's not what I 175 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 4: This is not what I think. This is just simply 176 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 4: we're just going to play Devil's advocate here for those 177 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 4: for their listening. If carbon dioxide, you know, obviously, and 178 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 4: I agree, it's a greenhouse gas, all us being equal 179 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 4: calls is warming when you put in an atmosphere. But if 180 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 4: it's really this, if it really is a detrimental to 181 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 4: the state of human welfare, if it's going to cause 182 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 4: the planet to overheat rapidly to the point it's going 183 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 4: to threaten human civilization. If if we are to believe 184 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 4: that CO two is underpinning this allegic climate crisis, then 185 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 4: we need to look at where the largest source of 186 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 4: the emissions are coming from. And most western countries, the 187 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 4: United States included, have been reducing their carbon dioxide emissions 188 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 4: steadily over the last thirty years, but places of countries 189 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 4: like China and India have increased theirs, and it goes 190 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 4: up exponentially each year, and a lot of people will 191 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 4: claim oh, well, China, you know, they're building more solar 192 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 4: power than the rest of the world, but they're also 193 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,839 Speaker 4: building more coal fire power plants. That doesn't matter how many. 194 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:26,439 Speaker 4: And they bought more than the rest of the will 195 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 4: combined on the on the cold power power plant front, 196 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 4: so it doesn't matter how much solar they add to 197 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 4: the grid. And they also built a lot of fler 198 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 4: that they then ship to their countries for They've built 199 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 4: a lot of solar panels over there, But until the 200 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 4: coal plants come offline, then the CO two level emissions 201 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 4: there are not going to is not going to are 202 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,079 Speaker 4: not going to fall, They're going to keep going up. 203 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 4: But a lot of climate activists really really like to 204 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 4: give China a free pass in India, free pass because 205 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 4: they are quote unquote the world's factory. They manufacture a 206 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 4: lot of our goods. Now, the United States has increased production, 207 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 4: actually our GDPs increase significantly since two thousand and five, 208 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 4: so we're still a really big manufacturer, but we still 209 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 4: import a lot of goods from China, and a lot 210 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 4: of countries in the United States to an extent, have 211 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 4: actually exploited a lot of their manufacturing to China and 212 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 4: it's helped make manufacturing elsewhere non competitive. It's part of 213 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,559 Speaker 4: their political agenda to see control over industry, and this 214 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 4: is coming primarily from obviously the left. They want to 215 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,719 Speaker 4: control You can control energy, you can control industry, you 216 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 4: can control people. Se if you drive it out of 217 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:30,559 Speaker 4: the United States, it allows them to control people here 218 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 4: more and more willingly, more more forcially rather and so 219 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 4: this is there's a striking parallel between people that support 220 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 4: the climate crisis narratives and people who have a more 221 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 4: left wing political ideology, and so they look at it 222 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 4: for these political lenses, and so they don't want to 223 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 4: criticize the CCP or they really maybe want to even 224 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 4: cozy up to them because they don't want to They 225 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 4: don't want to take they don't want to talk about 226 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 4: producing emissions in China, which is really driving up the 227 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 4: certain carbon dioxide concentration now because other countries have decarbonized. 228 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 4: And so their refusal to actually criticize China just goes 229 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 4: to say that their entire movement really the bottom line here, 230 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:14,559 Speaker 4: that it's political, it's not based in scientific fact. 231 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: Well, and I would argue. 232 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 3: My wife's from India and she grew up there, went 233 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 3: to college there, and her family were all in the 234 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 3: Indian military, and I've spent a lot of time talking 235 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 3: and they were very high up in the Indian military 236 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 3: about relations with China and how sophisticated China is and 237 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 3: how they can be both insidious in the things they 238 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 3: will do and a long term effect and you know, 239 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 3: the kind of dynastic control they have allows them to 240 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 3: take the long view because they don't have an election 241 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 3: coming up. But I see a lot of external influence, 242 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 3: particularly coming from China, on American NGOs and activists and 243 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 3: universities and grants and politicians. And the argument is always 244 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 3: that America is burning the earth up, America's polluting the earth. Statistically, 245 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 3: that's not true. But not only that, I think there 246 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 3: is a motive behind this, and I think it is 247 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 3: terribly sinister, and that to me, is far more disturbing 248 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:17,079 Speaker 3: than the lie they're telling. 249 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 4: Yes, I would agree with I would agree with that wholeheartedly. 250 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 3: It affects science and that should never be the case. 251 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 3: You know, you mentioned medicine earlier, and I wouldn't want 252 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 3: it to be the case that if I'm having a 253 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 3: heart attack, they didn't give me the treatment that would 254 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 3: save my life if some external country was paying to 255 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 3: prevent that treatment because they wanted to dominate that treatment. 256 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 3: Energy is at the core of everything we do. You 257 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 3: can look at how the Germans bogged down in Russia 258 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 3: and because they ran out of gas in their tanks, 259 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 3: and how that affected the bullets and the luftwaft and 260 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 3: the soldiers and the training and the tanks. I mean, 261 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 3: energy is at the very core of our national security. 262 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 3: So this strikes me to be an issue far bigger 263 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 3: than perhaps we're giving it the attention that it deserves. 264 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 4: Well, absolutely, I mean everything, as you said, everything we 265 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 4: do requires energy. And if you can control energy, if 266 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 4: you can have a monopoly on that, then you can 267 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 4: control people who can control their behaviors, you can control 268 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 4: you know, everything that they can they can can you 269 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 4: control their consumption And this is what this is largely 270 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 4: what a lot of the climate cult movement is about. 271 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 4: And a lot of the you know has been there's 272 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 4: a lot of influence from the Chinese government on on 273 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 4: that around the world, not just the United States, but 274 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 4: there are in Europe and then elsewhere, and the people, 275 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 4: the people at universities really have this ideology and it 276 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 4: just seems to originate uh in academia, that that the 277 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 4: United States is to blame for all the world's problems 278 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 4: that we have. And yet you know, in case of 279 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 4: in the case of the environment, you look at the 280 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 4: actual data on that most of the plastic pollution comes 281 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 4: from Asia, and you know most of it again, most 282 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 4: of the emissions CO two And now I don't think 283 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 4: CO two is a pollute and the top necessary for 284 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 4: life on Earth through the means of photosynthesis, but a 285 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 4: lot of that you know, if you if you want, 286 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 4: if you want to claim with the pollutant, then you 287 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 4: know they look commit further than than China, and a 288 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 4: lot of there are a lot of people this is 289 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 4: another interesting point when it comes to the you see 290 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 4: two emissions, a lot of people on the left will 291 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 4: add it well built, we'll we'll slay in the United States. 292 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 4: And they say, well, yeah, China has higher emissions in total, 293 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 4: but the United States has more emissions per capita. And 294 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 4: I say it's amidst more per person. And that's true 295 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 4: because a lot of China's are industrial based. But the 296 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 4: atmosphere for about climate, well, the Earth's atmosphere or the temperature, 297 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 4: which is a function of radiation balance. That doesn't care 298 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 4: about per capita, which you know, who admits the most 299 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 4: per person. That cared about which country or who's emitting 300 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 4: the most in total, and that's going to be of 301 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 4: course to China, if per capita emissions actually matter to 302 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 4: these people were screaming up Bahrain and Palal and Kuwait 303 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 4: because they emit by far more emissions per capita than 304 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 4: the United States. But they don't scream their heads off 305 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 4: at them because in reality the countries are very small, 306 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 4: but they have higher per capital. But the UN I 307 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 4: think it doesn't admit even you guys think really gets 308 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 4: into the top fifteen emissions per capital. Actually Australia and Canada, 309 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 4: which are highly industrialized economies, more per capital of the 310 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 4: United States. So they just want to dunk on the 311 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 4: United States. They hate the West and they want to 312 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 4: bring down our civilization and they want to control energy. 313 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 4: They want to make manufacturing and capitally when they want 314 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 4: to make manufacturing United States and non competitive so that 315 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 4: they can control people. 316 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: That very finister is the ungarnished truth. 317 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 3: Chris Marts, You're awesome, thank you for making time for us. 318 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 3: I hope we can have you back again and again 319 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 3: and again. You're fantastic. 320 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 4: Absolutely thanks for having me on. 321 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 2: Listen to the Michael Berry Show podcast if you dare. 322 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 3: Kimily Pool is a history teacher who posts on social 323 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 3: media as two Pool for school. She posted this video 324 00:16:56,080 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 3: where she called income the inco They call them indigenous people, 325 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 3: but they weren't the first people here either. There were 326 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 3: people here before them. She called their child sacrifices. They 327 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 3: took children and sacrificed them to the quote unquote gods. 328 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 3: She called those sacrifices kind and voluntary. This is part 329 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:23,199 Speaker 3: of the rewriting of history that white people are bad 330 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 3: and non white people are all good, even when they're 331 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 3: killing children supposedly as an offering to God. And you 332 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 3: white people, y'all just don't understand how these people are really, 333 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 3: really nice while they're doing this. 334 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 6: I will die on this all. 335 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:41,959 Speaker 7: I'm specifically talking about the Indi here. 336 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 6: We're not talking about the Shika. 337 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,719 Speaker 7: That's a whole separate type of sacrifice. If we're just 338 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:47,880 Speaker 7: looking at to want to ensue you, the Ketchua people, 339 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:52,959 Speaker 7: the Incan Empire, they practice sacrifices like most other civilizations 340 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 7: throughout history did in times of crisis. So famine, natural disasters. 341 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 7: But the unique thing about the ketchua is that when 342 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 7: you're looking at like the Inco civilization, you essentially have 343 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 7: the elites and then you have everyone else. Sacrifices were 344 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:11,439 Speaker 7: volunteers from the elite class because they believed that the 345 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 7: elites were closer to the gods and could therefore appease 346 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 7: them better. Also, in terms of sacrifice, they were kind 347 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 7: about it. Hear me out, because unlike the mashika, when 348 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 7: you're like ripping out a still beating heart out of 349 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:29,919 Speaker 7: someone's chest, the Inca would intentionally use coca leaves and 350 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:35,439 Speaker 7: would use chicha and would drug up the sacrifice and 351 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 7: then leave them on a mountain, a cold chili mountain, 352 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 7: to be exposed to the elements, which, if you're good, 353 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 7: a volunteer sacrifice where you're heavily drugged before you die. Also, 354 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 7: I mean, I can equate human sacrifice throughout history to 355 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 7: so many things. And I think the fact that a 356 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 7: lot of people are commenting, oh, what the sacrifice is 357 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 7: again indicative of the fact that you have received a 358 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 7: quite white education, because you are knowing them for the 359 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 7: bad things that they have done, and not all of 360 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 7: the wonders that they accomplished. 361 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 6: So I hope that. 362 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 7: This maybe helps you understand a different part my most 363 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 7: favorite civilization. 364 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 6: Of all time, the INCA. 365 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 3: This has nothing to do with politics, and I know 366 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:26,400 Speaker 3: most of you like us to mostly stick to politics. 367 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 3: But Jayleno, I always thought Jay Leno was a nice guy. 368 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 3: I didn't think he was a great host, but he 369 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:34,159 Speaker 3: was a nice guy, decent fellow, and I like his 370 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 3: love of cars. He was on Club Random with Bill Maher, 371 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 3: who's a goof, when he told a story about an 372 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 3: encounter with a member of the mafia at one of 373 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 3: his shows. He then went on to tell how the 374 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:53,479 Speaker 3: mafia once had a hit out on Johnny Carson. I 375 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 3: don't know if this is true or not, but Ramon 376 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 3: loves Johnny Carson and I found this story and I 377 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 3: thought it was interesting and just give it a little, 378 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 3: just give it some thought. 379 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 1: For no good reason. 380 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 8: I remember years ago, I was a catcher rizing star 381 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 8: and I was on stage and this guy, a mob guy, 382 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,880 Speaker 8: comes up to me. Afterwards, he goes, hey, you're funny kid. 383 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 8: Funny kid, but he takes one hundred dollars he puts 384 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 8: in my pocket. Really, really, you're funny Katie. But I said, oh, 385 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 8: thank I said, look, I don't mean any disrespect, but 386 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 8: you know, give it to the church. 387 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 1: Or or something. 388 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 2: I don't know. 389 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 8: I said, no, I'm okay, but thank you. I don't 390 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 8: want you to I'm not being I appreciate. I'm okay, 391 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 8: he says. I mean, no, you're a smart kid. You 392 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 8: don't take money from people like me. That's smart. And 393 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 8: nobody ever bothered me again. Nobody ever bothered me again. 394 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 8: I saw the mob kick the crap out of comics 395 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:53,919 Speaker 8: left and right. What yeah, really, Well one person we 396 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 8: know who was on stage. 397 00:20:59,240 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: Was he Italian? 398 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:00,439 Speaker 4: No? 399 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 6: No? 400 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:01,439 Speaker 4: Oh? 401 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 1: Yes, yes he was, yeah, yeah, he was an Italian name. 402 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 8: Yes, anyway, and just beats the crap at him because 403 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 8: he was being a wise ass on stage, you know, 404 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 8: the to them. 405 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, that kind of suff not good. You know that 406 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,640 Speaker 1: happened to Carson. You know Carson got beat him. 407 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 8: Well, Carson went to Gilli's one night with Bushkin, a lawyer, Yeah, 408 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 8: and have drinks out and they start hitting on these 409 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 8: two girls kind of rudely. Turns out their mob oh 410 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 8: moles girlfriends. So they threatened they put a hit out 411 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 8: on Carson. So Carson stops the tie show for the week. 412 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 8: He just goes, he leaves because this is real. And 413 00:21:54,920 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 8: then at the time they had remember Joey Colombo, the 414 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 8: guy he had that that whole Italian Civil rights saing Gordon. 415 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 1: Of course, well they had the Italians. He had the 416 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: Italian Saint. 417 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 8: John VC Parade, which was sponsored by the Five Families. 418 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 8: So nobody in New York would cover it. So Joey 419 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 8: Colombo went to NBC and said, if you cover the 420 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 8: Italian parade, will pull a hit on Carson. And they did. 421 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 8: They ordered never I certainly did not. You gotta get out. 422 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 8: You know, he's smoking too much stuff. 423 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 1: You got to get out. And some of the real 424 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: people are doing I bring people in here and then 425 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: they tell me, yeah, yeah, but yeah, that's that's true. 426 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: And that was and that was for real. 427 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 3: There's a comedian named Jannie Pappas, same last name as 428 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 3: a friend of mine, Jimmy Pappas. He is the mayor 429 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:56,360 Speaker 3: in Houston of a real fancy hamlet of homes. Rich 430 00:22:56,400 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 3: people live there and is called Hedwig. Was called Headwig 431 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 3: Point Crossing Valley, I think is the name of his 432 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,199 Speaker 3: little town that he's the mayor but he has the 433 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 3: same last name as comedian Yannis Pappas, who has a 434 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 3: funny bit which I wanted to share with you about 435 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 3: the difference between liberals and conservatives. 436 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 6: It's a Republican word property. 437 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 9: Liberals got different words like rent, that's a big one, rent, landward. 438 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 6: They measure things in square footage. 439 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:39,880 Speaker 1: Republicans got acres. 440 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 9: And property, and they want everything off, away, away. 441 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 6: That's the difference between liberals and conservatives. 442 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:51,640 Speaker 9: Conservatives want things away less, get it away, government, get away, 443 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 9: get away from the house, away away migrants. 444 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 6: Put them in a catapult, shoot. 445 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 9: Him right over the wall. Them away from my property, 446 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:05,199 Speaker 9: stay away from a property. The liberals want everything in 447 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,120 Speaker 9: more more government. We should all work for the government. 448 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:10,880 Speaker 9: My house should be a government building. We should all 449 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 9: be government employees. It's never enough government. Migrants come live 450 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 9: in my house. I'll hide you in the basement and 451 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:20,360 Speaker 9: give you papers. 452 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: Whatever you need. 453 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 9: Criminal robbing me on the street. But how has society 454 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 9: failed you? That's the bigger question. The Republicans are like, 455 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:35,399 Speaker 9: don't tread on me. Liberals are like, tread on me, 456 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 9: tread all over my want you to treay to tread. 457 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:44,199 Speaker 10: On my, tread on my house and tread on I 458 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 10: try tread all over me, trading and keep treading on me. Michael, 459 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 10: do I have a story for you. 460 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 6: My brother in law murdered too Native Americans. 461 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:04,439 Speaker 4: Michael show, Now you have my tea. Thank you for 462 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 4: calling the Deltek support to my office. If you're having 463 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 4: problems with your computer, please press one. 464 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,679 Speaker 11: Thanks for calling Deal Tech support. This is his son speaking. 465 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 11: How can it help you today? You to name is 466 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 11: a son? Yep, that's me, good oldest son. But that's 467 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 11: your real name. 468 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 4: Yep. 469 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 11: He just assures my favorite food is cooscoose. 470 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 4: How can it. 471 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 6: Help you today? 472 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,479 Speaker 11: Well, I'm having problems with my computer and I need 473 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 11: someone to explain to. 474 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 6: Me how to fix it. 475 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,719 Speaker 11: Well, you called the right place here at Deal we 476 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 11: can talk a coon out of a tree. Have you 477 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 11: tried rebooting your computer yet? 478 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: I can't reboot my computer because it don't turn on. 479 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 4: That's too bad. 480 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,360 Speaker 11: Sounds like your computer is being meaner than a skillet 481 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:46,400 Speaker 11: full of rattlesnakes. 482 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 6: Let me ask you something. 483 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 11: Can you keep your computer and you're a heating duke? 484 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 11: Well yes I do, Yep, I knew it. You're PC 485 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 11: done overheated? See when you keep your heart drive that 486 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 11: close to the event, it's gonna get hotter than two 487 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 11: mice humping in a wool sock. We're gonna need you 488 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 11: to mail it to us for repair. I reckon, I 489 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 11: want to connect you over to the repaired department. 490 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 12: Please hold good stars at nine Big and Ride. 491 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 10: Thanks for calling del Tech Support Repair Department. 492 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 11: This is Sonby. 493 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 6: Can I help you? 494 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 4: Do you expect me to believe you? Her name is Sunny? 495 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 6: Do you think I'm stupid? 496 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 10: Well, sir, it says here that you left your computer 497 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 10: there next to your home's heating event. I ain't saying 498 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 10: you're a demmy, but you're a man as sharp as 499 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 10: a bowl full of mashed potatoes. 500 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 4: Uh. 501 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 6: Hello, sir, sir? 502 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 10: Are you there? 503 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 4: Sir? Hello? 504 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 6: You not said they're not a town. 505 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,880 Speaker 3: Have you ever wondered why so many Indians own hotels? 506 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 3: There's a site, there's a commentator called Social Media Money 507 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 3: that tells the story of how the Patel family, I 508 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,919 Speaker 3: know lots of Patel's, has come to own seventy nine 509 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 3: percent of the motels in America. Now, this is not 510 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 3: a knock on Indians, not even a knock on immigrants 511 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 3: come here legally, this is a sort of statement as 512 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,360 Speaker 3: to what happens when you work hard and invest. Now, 513 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 3: I don't like the fact, even though my wife is Indian, 514 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 3: that Disney replaced American workers with Indians. I don't like 515 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 3: the replacement of American workers with people who come to 516 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 3: this country on special new visas for the sole purpose 517 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 3: of working less, sorry, working for less and for longer 518 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 3: hours to save money for that corporation. That is the 519 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 3: replacement theory. In practice, I do think there has to 520 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 3: be immigration reform, even as it relates to H one 521 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:58,159 Speaker 3: B visas and the like, but it is also the 522 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 3: case that we need to encourage entrepreneurism, thrift and sacrifice 523 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 3: in this country. I'm not where Vivek and Elon were 524 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 3: on this belief that we need to send more visas 525 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,640 Speaker 3: to India because they come here and work harder. 526 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 1: No, there are plenty of hard working Americans. 527 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 3: But I think that when you see whether it's the 528 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 3: ishmails which is an offshoot of Islam, or the Hindus, 529 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:25,919 Speaker 3: the Patels from Gudrat or Punjabi's for that matter, the Sikhs, 530 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 3: these communities who encourage entrepreneurism with micro loans and mentoring 531 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 3: have seen massive success. Ramon. 532 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 1: What was a woman's name, Tippy Heedron, who. 533 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 3: Got her nails done in California by she brought her 534 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 3: nail her nails lady to visit the refugees who had 535 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 3: come from Vietnam to California. She went to the refugee 536 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 3: camp and the Vietnamese women saw her getting her nails 537 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 3: done because she flew private and had her own nail person, 538 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 3: and they wanted to learn to do nails. So Tippy 539 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 3: Hedron paid to have her nail lady teaches Vietnamese women 540 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 3: how to do nails, and fifty years later, the Vietnamese 541 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 3: dominate the nail business because they bought shops. Sometimes they 542 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 3: lived in the back. They made sacrifice. The whole family 543 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 3: worked there, and they invested in it, and then they 544 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 3: funded other people and they built these sort of incubators 545 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 3: of entrepreneurism and it's a glorious thing. Anyway, here is 546 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 3: a story of how the Gudrathi people, they're from the 547 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 3: state of Gudrath. Bombay is not in Gudrath. I don't 548 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 3: say Mumbai. I still say Bombay. Bombay is not in Gudrath. 549 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 3: But the Gudrathis left their state and went to Bombay. 550 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 3: So you'll hear a person who is from Bombay or 551 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 3: if they say Mumbai now whatever, but they'll refer to 552 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 3: themselves as Gudrati and that means they're from the state 553 00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 3: of Gudrath. Gudrathis are known by Indian immigrants somewhat pejoratively 554 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 3: as good Jews, and they are compared to Jews in 555 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 3: this country and that they are very financially successful. They're 556 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 3: very entrepreneurial. There are other communities like this and other 557 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 3: terms that different communities will have for each other, but 558 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 3: one cannot deny the success they have enjoyed in this country. 559 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 12: Seventy percent of the motels in the country are under 560 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 12: Patel ownership. 561 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 6: What happened was a small number. 562 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 12: Of Patels came into the United States in the early 563 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 12: seventy the refugees. They realized that if we buy a 564 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 12: really small motel ten twelve fourteen room motel, the family 565 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 12: can live in one or two rooms and the family 566 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 12: can do all the work. 567 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 6: It's a job in a house together. 568 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 12: Yeah, So basically cleaning front desks, laundry, and because they 569 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 12: had no costs they were able to charge ninety rates 570 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 12: that were lower than all the neighboring motels. So what 571 00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 12: would happen is the Patel owned motel would be running 572 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 12: a hundred percent occupancy. The other motels couldn't match that 573 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 12: rate because they didn't lose money. And as their nephew 574 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 12: came of age, they would help them out to buy 575 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 12: his own motel, and then the nephew would get at going, 576 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 12: and then the next one, the next one. You run 577 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:17,959 Speaker 12: this for fifty years and they've actually gone up market now. 578 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 12: So a lot of the Hilton's Marriot's Westerns, if you 579 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 12: really look, you'll find it's under hotel ownership. And then 580 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 12: they went into seven level. 581 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 3: Judy Burr is an elderly lady living in Los Angeles. 582 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 3: I saw a video of Judy. She's in her eighties 583 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 3: and she has been asking the city of Los Angeles 584 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 3: to fix the dangerous sidewalk out in front of her 585 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 3: home since she was seventy seven years old years ago. 586 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 3: The city won't do it, and she could fall and 587 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 3: hurt herself. This is a great example. It might seem silly, 588 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 3: right in the grand scheme of things, It's not war 589 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 3: in Ukraine or bombing Iran or protest. But this is 590 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 3: a great example of government gone wrong, because when you're 591 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 3: spending all your time on global warming and cutting little 592 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 3: boys waners off, you don't function and provide the core 593 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 3: services you are expected to provide, police, fire, water, trash 594 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 3: pickup roads is a great example. This is ABC seven 595 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 3: in Los Angeles, but there are literally millions of these 596 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 3: stories across the country. The failure to function of government, 597 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 3: the failure to provide their core services that they should 598 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 3: be provided Christmas present. 599 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 4: It would be a. 600 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 6: Christmas present in this fixed well. 601 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 13: Getting this sidewalk fixed in front of her home has 602 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 13: been eighty five year old Judy bars wishless for eight years. 603 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 6: Now, and neither Santa nor the city have delivered. 604 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 3: I don't want to fall, so I say, you know, 605 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 3: let's go this way where there's no holes. 606 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 6: Judy steves like she's pretty independent and pretty spunky. 607 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 11: Yeah. 608 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 6: I worried, are you that she will try to walk 609 00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 6: down there? 610 00:32:58,320 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 4: Very big. 611 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 13: Interior designer Holly Westoff was hired by Judy eight years ago. 612 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 6: Hollywood's concerned these cracks could really hurt her client. 613 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 3: It's not safe for anybody, but it's especially a hazard 614 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 3: for someone like Judy. 615 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 13: So eight years ago, Holly filed the complaint with three 616 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 13: one one to get this all fixed. All the way 617 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 13: back on June twenty seventh of twenty seventeen, Holly got 618 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 13: this email from the city saying her request has been 619 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 13: found eligible and our wait time is approximately six months 620 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 13: to initiate sidewalk repair. 621 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 6: And then six months goes by and we heard nothing. 622 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 4: And then you know, cut to COVID happens, and then 623 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 4: that's the excuse for why it isn't fixed. 624 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 6: But eight years it's nuts 625 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 1: As nice for thank you and good night.