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Speaker 1: Gangster chronic goals. This is not your average shows. You're

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Speaker 1: now tuned into the rail Welcome to the gangst the

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Speaker 1: Chronicles podcast, the production of iHeart Radio and Black Effect

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Speaker 1: the Chronicles, leave a five star rating and comment. But man,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate your kind of kicking with your boy on

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Speaker 1: a Friday afternoon as eight goes out and does his

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Speaker 1: shows and have his fun, I said, you know, we

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Speaker 1: gotta trained the episode this week, so I'm gonna hit

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Speaker 1: my homegirl, South Carolina anytime. Did you consider yourself a geechee?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, definitely a geechee Charleston, South Carolina.

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Speaker 1: YA had to get my homegirl. You know, when my

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Speaker 1: son was getting recruited for football, he almost went to

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Speaker 1: South Carol line. I liked this school a lot.

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Speaker 3: USC YEP, game Cocks go, game Cocks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. He wound up going to the real USC, or

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Speaker 1: the University of Southern California.

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Speaker 3: Not the real USC shade University of Southern California.

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Speaker 1: But no, I had a really good time over there.

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Speaker 1: In that city has a lot of like history.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Columbia.

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Speaker 2: Uh, you know, Charleston used to be the capital of

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Speaker 2: South Carolina, but you know, at some point it switched

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Speaker 2: But it's that city is dead, like through politics, they

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Speaker 3: So it's still a college town.

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Speaker 2: But niggas used to get it in in Columbia like

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Speaker 3: College and the shit it just used to be super lit.

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Speaker 1: Was it a lot of racism down there?

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Speaker 2: Uh, it's probably a lot of you know, covert racism,

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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like South.

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Speaker 1: Carolina, just like everywhere else in the country.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so niggas get tricked out, they spot real quick

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Speaker 2: if they don't learn the science of business. But even

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Speaker 2: and everybody going to jail for doing the same shit

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like Charleston is a port city, you know what

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Speaker 3: It's from other men. That's why I don't subscribe to

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Speaker 3: So I think when people to be vulnerable doesn't make

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Speaker 2: Right, So if you can't talk to your friends, your family,

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Speaker 1: For those that cut on like just here, it was

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Speaker 1: mistake and this is my homegirl AJ for the week

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Speaker 1: talk back podcast on Black Effect on Black Effect with us.

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Speaker 1: You know you've known charlmgne a long time?

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Speaker 2: Huh yeah, a long time, A very long time. Just

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Speaker 1: You're still in high school. Yep, that's crazy. Charlamagne. People

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Speaker 1: always ask me, hi's Charlemagne? I say, he just a

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Speaker 2: Charlemagne is a very good person, you know what I'm saying, Like,

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Speaker 1: Somehow, because you remind me of one of my You

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Speaker 1: You got squabbles?

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, you for sure probably related to me then,

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Speaker 3: We learn how to ask whooping from? You know what

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Speaker 2: I feel like anytime a big person hits a small person,

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Speaker 3: Words sometimes. And there's such things as fighting words.

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Speaker 1: If it's going on, I'm gonna take it to a

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Speaker 1: I feel like this. If you live your life right,

433
00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:20,920
Speaker 1: can't nobody catch you up with no shit like I'm

434
00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:22,760
Speaker 1: not out there. I don't mess around on my old lady.

435
00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,480
Speaker 1: I'll mess around on my wife. I'm a faith get

436
00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:27,639
Speaker 1: married man. So can't nobody ever come to me with

437
00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,040
Speaker 1: no kind of hors you. I'm gonna deal with it.

438
00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,640
Speaker 1: This ain't nobody. And I feel like people that put

439
00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,280
Speaker 1: themselves in them type of positions, that's on you because

440
00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,760
Speaker 1: you out there doing room and I And honestly, I

441
00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:42,080
Speaker 1: never understood the whole philander and thing because if you

442
00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:44,679
Speaker 1: don't want to beat with somebody, just don't be with them.

443
00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:46,520
Speaker 1: I'm not good at chat and I'm not good at

444
00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,760
Speaker 1: trying to hide a life. I live my bottom black stuff.

445
00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get caught up my white dot me for

446
00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:53,879
Speaker 1: so long she can look at me and tell you,

447
00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:57,280
Speaker 1: you know so that's just not me. I'm not no

448
00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:04,320
Speaker 1: good at it, so I'm not trying. You know.

449
00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,840
Speaker 2: I saw this this new this comedian. I want to

450
00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:08,439
Speaker 2: know his name too, I forgot it. I think his

451
00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,040
Speaker 2: name is Vincent. I just started following him on Instagram

452
00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:12,880
Speaker 2: and he used to have some real profound shit. While

453
00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:17,879
Speaker 2: he was on somebody's podcast. He the guy who he was.

454
00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:19,960
Speaker 2: I don't know if he was being interviewed. I don't

455
00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,359
Speaker 2: know if they do the podcast together or whatever, but

456
00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,439
Speaker 2: he was saying, you know, when you lie to your woman, like,

457
00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:29,199
Speaker 2: women have intuition, right, and it's a real thing. So

458
00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:32,720
Speaker 2: when if your woman confronts you about cheating or something

459
00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:34,680
Speaker 2: like that and you lie to her, what you're doing

460
00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:39,960
Speaker 2: is essentially like you tampering with her intuition. So now

461
00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:43,520
Speaker 2: when she needs her intuition to help you stay out

462
00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:48,119
Speaker 2: of harm's way, you have now like like warped it

463
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,639
Speaker 2: kind of. You've now made her second guest her intuition.

464
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:56,720
Speaker 2: You've made her question herself and knowing she knows that

465
00:21:56,840 --> 00:22:00,480
Speaker 2: this thing is happening, right, but bye, you lying, you

466
00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,080
Speaker 2: have now confused her. And men don't even realize when

467
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 2: they be working against themselves like women women.

468
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:06,320
Speaker 1: Women.

469
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,199
Speaker 3: If you if your girls tell you that person for

470
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:13,520
Speaker 3: you that's not your friend, believe her.

471
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,160
Speaker 1: I'll live by that. If my wife tell.

472
00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,200
Speaker 3: Me you have an inner knowing that men just don't

473
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:19,320
Speaker 3: have they just don't have.

474
00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, if my wife tells me leave that dude alone

475
00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,359
Speaker 1: here mean you know good, I'll listen to her and

476
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,199
Speaker 1: I stay away from I don't care how bit of

477
00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,239
Speaker 1: a do it. He seemed like I stopped messing with him.

478
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,480
Speaker 1: I handle him at a distance, right. I keep them

479
00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,159
Speaker 1: kind of whipping, you know, at the distance right. And

480
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,160
Speaker 1: the one thing about it, I do believe that women

481
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,880
Speaker 1: have any wish. But y'all can't accuse the mother suckers

482
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,679
Speaker 1: ship that he ain't dead though, that be just standing

483
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 1: on me like.

484
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,200
Speaker 3: Real profound dreams.

485
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:50,040
Speaker 2: I have dreamed of shit somebody was doing and it

486
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:50,800
Speaker 2: was true.

487
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:53,600
Speaker 1: So you want to get what your man's asked for

488
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,679
Speaker 1: because you some shit my wife, And you know what

489
00:22:56,760 --> 00:23:00,200
Speaker 1: my wife has done before. We had us a good

490
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 1: night the night before and it's like a Saturday morning.

491
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,480
Speaker 1: We wake up about to go eat some breakfast and hey, babe,

492
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 1: what you want to go do? She could look at

493
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,240
Speaker 1: me like this and going about her business and I'm like, Bam,

494
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 1: I ain't. We've been in the bill today and exif

495
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:16,639
Speaker 1: me I had a dream that you did this and that,

496
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:21,720
Speaker 1: not like her, like what are you talking about? Like

497
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,119
Speaker 1: like I control your dreams or something like that. Like

498
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 1: I said, you don't dreamed about.

499
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,200
Speaker 3: Man, because it's it's just it's just real.

500
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,879
Speaker 2: I have dreamed about shit that what's happening, and you

501
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 2: know I'm not. I don't pick fights, though, so I

502
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 2: do wake up. I want to be happy every morning.

503
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,960
Speaker 2: So even if I know some shit, like my ex

504
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,640
Speaker 2: used to say, i'd be building reco cases against niggas

505
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 2: and I'm like, what, so I won't see anything? Right

506
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,119
Speaker 2: if I get on some bullshit, you better not have

507
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 2: nothing to say to me.

508
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 3: Now that might be my toxic trade.

509
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 2: I'll store a lot of information because I want to

510
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 2: be happy. I don't feel like addressing everything I see

511
00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,040
Speaker 2: and hear. If I still want to be with some

512
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,120
Speaker 2: I don't harass men until I'm ready to leave they ass.

513
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 3: Now I really look about his ship.

514
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I ain't saying ship like I want to have

515
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 2: a good day, especially if I'm still be with your

516
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:11,639
Speaker 2: whole ass.

517
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,359
Speaker 3: I'm not saying nothing but the minute.

518
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 2: I started like spewing shit out, the relationship pretty much over.

519
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what the thing is, I'm gonna tell

520
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:23,400
Speaker 1: you this. They got they got some ship now called

521
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 1: walk away wife syndrome. Not like what the fuck is

522
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 1: that to wear? What a motherfucker just come home and

523
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 1: they ship gone? Like the wife just don't have enough,

524
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:32,480
Speaker 1: She ain't said nothing, and she just.

525
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 3: You know, because a lot of times that is the best.

526
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,440
Speaker 2: Like women can't how can we really get back at

527
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 2: a man? Right? So if a man is cheating and

528
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 2: mistreating you, we the only thing we can do is

529
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,160
Speaker 2: with whole sex or leave, you know what I'm saying,

530
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 2: And then staying with somebody and withholding sex, he's still

531
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,120
Speaker 2: won't be fucking somebody else, So what are you really doing?

532
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:52,880
Speaker 3: Right?

533
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,399
Speaker 2: So, the only way to really get even with a

534
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 2: man is to leave him and get a better one,

535
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:02,359
Speaker 2: or you cold turkey just like that that you Especially

536
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 2: if you're dealing with a narcissist, the best thing to

537
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,159
Speaker 2: do is ignore them. And I'm not saying that like

538
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 2: all men are narcissists or like only men can be narcissists,

539
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,919
Speaker 2: because I do know some narcissistic women okay, but the

540
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 2: best way to deal with them is this straight cut

541
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 2: all contact.

542
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:18,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

543
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 3: I never heard that term before. That's interesting.

544
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,200
Speaker 1: I just think, you know, aj at the end of

545
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,360
Speaker 1: the day, I think there's too much stuff that can

546
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,879
Speaker 1: happen when you out there just you know, playing games

547
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 1: with people. I think when you are a certain age

548
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 1: playing game, you know, playing games shouldn't be a thing

549
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 1: of it because you still have sexy transmitted diseases out there.

550
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 1: You still have hiv as, herpes U, you know, gonorrhea,

551
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 1: a host of other things that you can come home

552
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 1: and you you know, you laying somebody, you intimate with somebody,

553
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 1: and you don't you know, you've been out there not

554
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,400
Speaker 1: taking care of your business. Li's like when I see

555
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,239
Speaker 1: guys that have kids outside their marriage, I say, not

556
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 1: only was your cheating, dude, you was out there going back.

557
00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 3: A whole human.

558
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 2: And the thing is like, I never understand men like

559
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 2: you do have some men you got Nick Cannon, whoever

560
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 2: else these guys who have like a bunch of kids

561
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 2: and they're millionaires. Okay, but that is you know, that

562
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 2: is a small percentage of men, right who can have

563
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 2: all these children to actually be able to take care

564
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 2: of them. I know a nigga with twenty one kids

565
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 2: and he's a truck driver, Like, what are you doing?

566
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 2: You let your dick make a slave out of you

567
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 2: at this point, but he has grandkids at this point too.

568
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 2: But how do you expect to ever reach the level

569
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 2: of success that you see yourself at when you are

570
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 2: dividing yourself in between multiple households like that? And I

571
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 2: feel like Black men don't think about that enough, right

572
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 2: you having a baby with somebody else every year. You

573
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,679
Speaker 2: are not the man you think you are. You are

574
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 2: highly irresponsible. You're just creating baby mamas, you know what

575
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,920
Speaker 2: I'm saying, So big baby baby mama culture is a

576
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:55,640
Speaker 2: big ass fucking problem.

577
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,919
Speaker 3: And I mean, when you think about it, the fucking

578
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 3: baby starts in the man. That's your baby, you know

579
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 3: what I'm saying.

580
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 2: We cultivate life, We cultivate life, right, but that's your baby.

581
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 2: So I feel like maybe maybe more, maybe the system

582
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 2: should be just be like you know, if a woman,

583
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,679
Speaker 2: if a man gets a woman pregnant and they split up,

584
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 2: the baby automatically goes with the man.

585
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 1: You know what. I think that happened to mend be

586
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,679
Speaker 1: a lot more responsible because I'm gonna tell you this, absolutely,

587
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 1: I just could never see myself just creating something because

588
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you I was there when all my

589
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 1: kids were born, except for my oldest. I had my oldest.

590
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 1: We was young. I was maybe twenty years old right,

591
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,919
Speaker 1: and I was in school. I was going playing football,

592
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,639
Speaker 1: was playing college football. But when she had the baby,

593
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 1: I was on the phone like I knew. We just played.

594
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 1: I remember that night clearly. We just played university in

595
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 1: New Mexico, and I was going to my dorm and

596
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 1: the phone was ringing, and I knew. I just like

597
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 1: felt it in my soul on the bus like I

598
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 1: knew my son. I knew my child and kings. We

599
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 1: was on the bus on the way back and I

600
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,679
Speaker 1: just felt like this like feeling over me, like just

601
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 1: a feeling like everything seemed brighter, and I was just

602
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 1: in hurry to get back home. And I was literally

603
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 1: running back from the statum, you know, we bus come

604
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 1: back to stay and we run back the room and

605
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 1: I heard my phone ringing and I was like, my

606
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 1: son is here, and he was like this. My brother

607
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 1: in law was on the phone like yeah, fool, you

608
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 1: got a son now, like and I was just thinking.

609
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 1: And I remember going back home like that, just me

610
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 1: going to go meet him for the first time and

611
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,959
Speaker 1: me old them it was just feeling like man. And

612
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 1: I looked at his face and I just said, man,

613
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 1: I gotta do something for this dude. You know what

614
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 1: I mean. It got to be like my life changed

615
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: right there. My whole mindset changed right there, and said

616
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 1: everything I do for Maryln has to be for this

617
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 1: kid right here, Like my dreams don't matter no more,

618
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 1: My dreams happening racist don't matter no more. It has

619
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 1: to be I have to fulfill this kid's dreams. Right

620
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 1: when I saw my son Christopher born. Now when I

621
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: tell you he took my wife shit, I remember we

622
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: wanted to lay. I ain't saying we like I was

623
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 1: over because I ain't have to do shit. I was

624
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 1: just driving. I remember it was early in the morning.

625
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 1: It was like three o'clock, she said this time. And

626
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 1: I was prepared, right. I slept in my pants that night,

627
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 1: as we knew, I slept in my pants on. I

628
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 1: got to put my T shirt on and I got

629
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 1: that and I walked her out through the car, got

630
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: in and I drove her up the Kaiser and I'm

631
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 1: thing that the babby about to just come out, right then, Man,

632
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: when I tell you, Christopher didn't bring his ass here

633
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 1: at nine o'clock that night, So she was in labor

634
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 1: all day. And it was the weirdest thing because my

635
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: father had twins before. See what I found out about

636
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: my dad, my biological dad. He was in the service.

637
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 1: He was in the military, and he had a wife

638
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 1: and twin kids, and the twins and his wife had

639
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 1: died the fire, but he was out doing his patrols

640
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 1: they died, and so he lost the whole family before

641
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 1: I was born, right, And so my wife had another

642
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 1: say like it was another baby there, but it didn't

643
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 1: get go all the way to the term. Like it

644
00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: was just crazy. Right, And my son, Christopher, he was born.

645
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,239
Speaker 1: He came out face side up. He came out face up,

646
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 1: those oppos away, he came out. So it was you know,

647
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 1: all of me, and you believe in symbolism and stuff, right,

648
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 1: I just knew that he was gonna be like all

649
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 1: my kids are special to me, but I just knew

650
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: that this one was gonna be either a hell raiser

651
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 1: or he was gonna be like Steve Jobs and somebody

652
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 1: gonna be like somebody different and he feels very different,

653
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 1: Like he was very different, and like it's like he

654
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 1: came out like he had been here before, because he

655
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 1: looked around and then he just screamed like like that

656
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 1: I had him. Yea. I remember my wife had passed

657
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 1: out and I had to grab the baby from her

658
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: and I was trying to hold her and it was

659
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 1: just a lot man and my daughter. So when my

660
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 1: daughter was born, I was ready for this big ordeal

661
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 1: because I went through it with him. I like had

662
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 1: my little scrub soon and I was pretty and she

663
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 1: just kind of just popped out like and I remember

664
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 1: her cheeks were so like man, she got these really

665
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: big cheeks and that was my daughter. Man. So it

666
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: was it's very emotional. It was very emost of me

667
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 1: when I had children. It was just like it's because

668
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 1: it's a love that nothing.

669
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 3: Else compares to and how do you walk away from that?

670
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 4: So you know what I what I realized is that

671
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 4: the love for a child may be your biological child

672
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 4: or you know, a step a step son, a stepdaughter.

673
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 2: I believe that the love for the child is transferable

674
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 2: from the love the man has for the woman. So

675
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 2: that's why a man can take care of a child

676
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 2: that's not his because he loves that woman. And when

677
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 2: a man doesn't like a woman, it's fuck them kids,

678
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 2: even if it's his biological children.

679
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 1: See, I don't know if you should think that way,

680
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: because the thing is, they don't stop being your kids because.

681
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 2: Always I feel And that's why, that's why it's easy

682
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 2: for some men to walk away because they don't want

683
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 2: to deal with that woman, you know what I'm saying,

684
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 2: So you just discard the children as well. But even

685
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 2: a man who they separate, but you still have love

686
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 2: for this woman. If she need anything, you still coming through.

687
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 2: You take care of your children. That's the love he

688
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 2: has for the woman. It really doesn't have anything to

689
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 2: do with the kids. Men don't have the same connection

690
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 2: not all you know, don't have the same connection with

691
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 2: children like the mother does. Right because though yes, the

692
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 2: baby comes out of you, this thing is growing inside

693
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 2: of her.

694
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,479
Speaker 1: You know what I'm gonna tell you. Like this, at

695
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 1: one time, my oldest son, his mama was always his favorite.

696
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong, my oldest son loved me to death,

697
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 1: but he's a mama's boy one hundred percent for sure.

698
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: He loved his mama, right. My daughter, hmm, she loves

699
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 1: both of us, she said, I love both of she

700
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:48,239
Speaker 1: was little. I love both of you guys. But that's

701
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 1: my daddy, you know, like my daughter. I love my daughter.

702
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 1: It's different with dads and daughters. Right. My oldest son,

703
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 1: for the longest, when he was little, he didn't like

704
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,719
Speaker 1: his mom. Like he would wake up at night when

705
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: he was want and be smacking on her face and

706
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: biting her and shak you know what I mean, and

707
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: just doing a whole bunch of stuff. But now if

708
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: you ask either one of them, it's all about their mom.

709
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: With my boys, my mom, they mom. Mother's Day, it's

710
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 1: all kinds of stuff, I swear man. My wife probably

711
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 1: get about five thousand ship the muscle me. I might

712
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 1: get an Instagram post shout out to my pop. Okay,

713
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 1: better than that. My daughter, she could look me up.

714
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 1: My daughter. She always would have some nice and go

715
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 1: pick for me and everything as my son, what's up pop?

716
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 1: Father's Day? I might get some socks or it's a

717
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: pair of clippers or something like that. But they mam

718
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: are getting a thousand dollars bottle of the cologne. Something

719
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 1: just everything that she wants. She got a list, she

720
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: get loved, But you know what, she's supposed to get

721
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 1: loved because I tell my boys, she's supposed to take

722
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 1: care of your mama. If something happened to me, y'all

723
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 1: butt to take care of y'all mama. That's you know,

724
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 1: that's the rules around here.

725
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 2: Something a man who takes care of their mom too, Like,

726
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 2: that's one of the characteristics out look for now. I

727
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,719
Speaker 2: always make jokes that I don't like niggas with mamas,

728
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 2: and I don't like niggas with sisters, like if your

729
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 2: mama got to be an ancestor. I joke like that

730
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,839
Speaker 2: a lot. But a man who takes cares, takes care

731
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 2: of his mom, you better believe he's going to take

732
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 2: care of you. So you need to thank his mama

733
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 2: for how he is by one.

734
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 1: Hundred percent for sure. Because one of my proud moments

735
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: is you know I'm moving to the South this summer, right.

736
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 1: I don't think I told you that, right, I'm moving

737
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 1: even California after all these years, right. But one of

738
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,839
Speaker 1: the main reasons I'm leaving not just because it's cheap

739
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: route there and I'm tired of paying all these highest

740
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:39,359
Speaker 1: taxes and everything else, and I want to see more

741
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 1: of my money, right right, But I am going to

742
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 1: go take care of my mother too. My mother is

743
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 1: moving in with me, and that's like proudest moment ever

744
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 1: from like, I cannot wait for that to happen. I

745
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 1: just can't wake up to eat breakfast with my mama.

746
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 1: But I also know that my mama is very moody,

747
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: So I got to make sure that where we move,

748
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: she got her as her own space and her own

749
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: safe space that she can retreat to when she getting

750
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 1: one of those Irene moves, you know what I mean.

751
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: But she wanted to get in, then Irene move, she

752
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 1: can go ahead and go to her thing. That's why

753
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 1: I like, you know, Atlanta got the basements, right the

754
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: Atlanta they got basements, and it's really not faces necessarily,

755
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 1: they had their own entrance and got like old separate

756
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 1: kitchen downsta certain cases. I want to get something like

757
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 1: that because I want her to be able to have

758
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:26,800
Speaker 1: her own space because sometimes yeah, yeah, sometimes people just

759
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 1: don't want to be bothered with nobody else, you know

760
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: what I mean. That's that's fine too, especially.

761
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 3: The older they get.

762
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 2: Man, My mama mean as hell. You know what I'm saying,

763
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 2: I'd be like, I, damn man, you won't never be happy.

764
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 2: Older black women are meet as fun. Like I feel

765
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,280
Speaker 2: like we all got the same Mama.

766
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:43,399
Speaker 1: I really.

767
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 2: I've been on this post the other day. Was on

768
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 2: wealth dot com, I think, but it was like, I

769
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 2: don't know if these these articles be real, these headlines,

770
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 2: but it was something like a call from your mom,

771
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 2: can you know, ease the pressing or ease anxiety or

772
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 2: something like that, And all the comments were saying shit,

773
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 2: like shit, not for my mama, stressed up, her number

774
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 2: prop up sometimes.

775
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: I think I was telling you earlier that my mom

776
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 1: can be mean sometime and I tell her, I tell

777
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 1: her not like Mama. You didn't even have to say

778
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 1: all that, Like my mama is just real. My mom

779
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 1: don't curse. She curse, but she is going to make

780
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 1: I feel like you're this small and she's gonna say

781
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: what's on her mind well while you know it.

782
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 2: And I'm like, mama, But imagine if we did that

783
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 2: to them though, right, because it's not that we can't,

784
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 2: you know, because they are not above reproach.

785
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 3: They have flaws also, So imagine if we told them

786
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 3: exactly how we felt about them. They would crush them,

787
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.

788
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 2: So they'd be round here hurting our fucking feelings and

789
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 2: we just gotta gotta be quiet.

790
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 1: Hell, I'm gonna tell you that you very much like

791
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,800
Speaker 1: I remember, if I talked bag, I would be like,

792
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:00,879
Speaker 1: I don't know what was up with my mom. It's

793
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 1: like she had buying powers or something. She would throw

794
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: a cup or ship and it seemed like that thing

795
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,800
Speaker 1: and turning around corners and hits your ass with it

796
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: like she has some black mama got some kind of

797
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 1: mental to lipty or something. They throw something next your ass.

798
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,320
Speaker 3: That ship hit me brown corner like this, making it

799
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 3: making it turn.

800
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you would say something right like I know

801
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:22,320
Speaker 1: my mom susould say something like come in here and

802
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 1: watch that she's not under my breath washing herself. I

803
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: ain't messing them up what you're saying. And next thing,

804
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: you know, a shoe come around the corner. Anything, and

805
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: they could throw anything makes your ass and that shit

806
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: makes your dad in your head. So definitely, black mamas, definitely,

807
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 1: they can definitely be on their ship when they want to.

808
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: But I think they go through a whole lot of shit.

809
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I got a lot of empathy for my mom,

810
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 2: Like she doesn't think I do, but I have a

811
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,720
Speaker 2: lot of empathy for her because I understand the trauma

812
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 2: that she will never deal with, that she probably went

813
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 2: through as a child. Because our generation where you go

814
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 2: to therapy and shit like that, Like the baby Boomers,

815
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 2: they frown upon therapy, you know what I'm saying.

816
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 3: They think it's weak. But you can't even talk about

817
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,240
Speaker 3: your childhood without what's not crying.

818
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 1: You gotta take care of yourself though, because I'm gonna

819
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 1: tell you, I think I shared what you want. How

820
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 1: long do that? When I told you I started taking

821
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 1: well butter about a year ago?

822
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,800
Speaker 3: Yeah that was like last year sometime. Yeah, and for

823
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 3: the longest I can so we need some ads, We.

824
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 1: Need some hey, Jane, how can y'all? Right? There? I

825
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: take well butteran not to be a real what do

826
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,839
Speaker 1: they call it? A live, live case study? Right? Yeah,

827
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 1: you know, but admember. For the longest, I didn't think

828
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: that ship was working because I was like, man, I

829
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 1: don't feel no different. I don't feel no different.

830
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 2: You know.

831
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: What happened was all of a sudden, I just started

832
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,320
Speaker 1: feeling like me again because I went through this period

833
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 1: to where I wouldn't feel like myself, you know, dealing

834
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:01,800
Speaker 1: with podcasts. Just we've been doing this show for a

835
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 1: long time. For those who benners since the beginning. All

836
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: the changes at the beginning, gets all the bullshit and

837
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 1: drama at the beginning, I think, not just that, but

838
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 1: a lot of shit. Just start wearing toll on them.

839
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 1: You start having the toll on me to where I

840
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 1: didn't feel like I felt like I was outside of

841
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: myself almost I'm tired all the time. I was just

842
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:25,879
Speaker 1: like I just didn't feel like myself. Now, I would

843
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:29,240
Speaker 1: say for the last six seven months, I've been feeling

844
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 1: like myself. I feel like me again.

845
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 4: You know.

846
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: I'm in a better mood. I'm not snappy. It's just like,

847
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, I still get mad. It's like

848
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: like my Like my therapist told me, she said, now, well,

849
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 1: different angles gonna make everything because she said, you're still

850
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 1: a human being who have to feel some shit, right,

851
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 1: they don't do that, but at the same trouble and

852
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 1: it just helps me to cope with everything a little

853
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,439
Speaker 1: bit better, you know what I mean. I don't get mad.

854
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 1: I don't I used to get really frustrated about shit,

855
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: like I was mad because I think me and you've

856
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 1: got a lot of the same qualities. We are the

857
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,359
Speaker 1: doors in our situation, right, We're the ones that make

858
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 1: sure shit get done. We often spending our own money.

859
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 1: We off often spending the most time with something. So

860
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 1: you can kind of start to resist your business partners

861
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,839
Speaker 1: and people that should do stuff with because you're doing

862
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:20,839
Speaker 1: every damn thing, and this seemed like they just kicking

863
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 1: back reaping the benefits, like you know, we get that.

864
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 1: I heart check out, Like damn, I gotta slit this

865
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 1: shit down the middle, and I'm doing all the fucking work.

866
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 1: That's what we're doing. No, not like that, and I'm

867
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 1: not I'm sinking Ad is the perfect partner. I'm not

868
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: talking about him. This is like my previous situations, right,

869
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 1: Ada is the perfect partner because that kind of he

870
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,800
Speaker 1: understands business by him being entertainment so long, he understands

871
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 1: been so eight it's cool. I can do this show

872
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 1: with eight from here to the end of eternity. Like

873
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 1: it ain't about eight. This is about my previous dealing

874
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: with the previous you know, credence that.

875
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 2: I was involved with then you know what I'm saying,

876
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,800
Speaker 2: you gotta make sure that you are in It's a

877
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 2: marriage essentially, and you just have to make sure you

878
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 2: go into business with somebody who has the same business

879
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 2: acumen as you. Whenever you fall short, they picked the

880
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 2: ball up and run, you know what I'm saying, And

881
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 2: vice versa, He's gonna make sure you got you know,

882
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 2: that type of partnership in any ship, that's the same

883
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 2: thing with your with your actual partner. You know what

884
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 2: I'm saying, your lover like, it's the same ship whenever

885
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 2: I'm you strong, and vice versa.

886
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 3: That's how you have good good business. That's how you

887
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 3: do good business.

888
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know you know aight is my boy. For

889
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 1: the record out there, eight is my dog. Eight is

890
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 1: my guy. We've been. Aden is easy to deal with

891
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 1: because he don't say much like he just he knows,

892
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: he understands business, you understand what I mean. So it's

893
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 1: a lot different with him, mom. He doesn't he doesn't

894
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: complain about stuff. He just kind of just does what

895
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. As late back, he's like, okay,

896
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 1: this all deal with time. Were doing the show and

897
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 1: he come through this, come through the show, going about

898
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 1: his business. Aydus very much cool. But I am the person.

899
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 1: I am the person who started this show, so I

900
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: do have to have some responsibility. You know, I'm the

901
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 1: executive producer of the show. So it's a whole different thing.

902
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:16,359
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. My daughter just came in and she see

903
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 1: I'm doing the show. She just don't came in by me,

904
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: I guess by me spearheading the show. I am. We

905
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: have a certain amount of responsibility. That's a thing, make sure.

906
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 1: But it gets our sometimes hard. Out here for a tip.

907
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

908
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 3: And is sorry, man, listen, Podcasting is not easy. You

909
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 3: know we've been doing we talk back now, you know, January.

910
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,320
Speaker 3: I feel like it's six years. Sorry show we launched

911
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty one, so five years and it's not easy.

912
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,800
Speaker 2: And we show up consistently, you know what I'm saying, Like,

913
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 2: that's that's what it's about.

914
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 1: You know.

915
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 3: Do I want to be talking on a mic forever? No,

916
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 3: because there's other size of this. You know, I want

917
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 3: my studio and ship it up.

918
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 2: People could gave me to come recording my shit, but yeah,

919
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 2: WTV studios something like that.

920
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 3: But it's not easy. It's not easy.

921
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 2: To stay consistent doing anything and that time. Yeah, that's

922
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:16,800
Speaker 2: how you get to where you're going. If this is

923
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,240
Speaker 2: something you really want to do, Like I have always

924
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 2: aspired to be able to do something and make money

925
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:23,879
Speaker 2: being myself, you know what I'm saying.

926
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 3: I come from a more corporate background and you got

927
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 3: to have all these hats on.

928
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 1: Well, it's therapeutic, especially when you get to have conversations

929
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 1: like this and just kind of I think being a podcast,

930
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 1: you have to be able to bear. You have to

931
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 1: be able to tell your truth and not be embarrassed

932
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: about it. That's just what it is right here. It's

933
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 1: the truth. I don't you know. And I've never had

934
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 1: a problem with telling nobody that I take that I'm

935
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 1: go to therapy and I take anti depressants and all

936
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 1: that shit, because I think a lot of people. I

937
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 1: think if we have more people going to therapy and

938
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 1: take an antidepressence, we'll beat a lot better place. You

939
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: wouldn't see people losing lightly lives and shit the way

940
00:43:59,680 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 1: they do.

941
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 3: So I think that diet.

942
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,320
Speaker 2: You know, also because you've you've not lost a significant

943
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 2: amount of weight recently too. Oh yeah, sure, you're back

944
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 2: in jail working on that also helps with your mental health.

945
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 2: You know, like black people we always say, like all

946
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 2: these diseases are hereditary. No, it's the fucking food. The

947
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:20,800
Speaker 2: way we cook is what's hereditary. Yeah, so that that

948
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,839
Speaker 2: helps with your mental health too. I wouldn't just automatically

949
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 2: go to medication, right, but a lot of people, a

950
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 2: lot of black people, are self medicating.

951
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 3: My ex he was mean when he wasn't high. You

952
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying.

953
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 2: I had to wait until the nigga got high to

954
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 2: have fun because I'm happy all day Like, that's not

955
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 2: my normal setting. But I don't know what he was

956
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 2: going through that. Maybe he didn't communicate, but he just

957
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 2: wasn't fun until he was high.

958
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: Well, I'm gonna tell you what's going on, right. I

959
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 1: think in our community, especially marijuana is legally California, and

960
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:57,439
Speaker 1: you see people smoking blunts back to back to back

961
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 1: to back, and that's because they are self medicating. And uh,

962
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 1: I tell my friends go see a therapist, because, especially

963
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 1: especially when you black coming up in America, it's a

964
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 1: lot of shit going on in this country now. It's

965
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 1: hard to feel like you're constantly not under attack. And

966
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 1: I consider myself as sass that'sful, dude, you know, not

967
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 1: to be just all depress and shit. You know, me

968
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 1: and Fiend just started up a record label, right, We

969
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 1: started up a record label. We signed our first artist,

970
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 1: and about the sign our about to sign this other

971
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 1: group that's real dope man related the King Crook, his

972
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 1: little Brother's Shoe Gang. I'm really excited about the new

973
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 1: dudes and monsters on the microphone. So we building up

974
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 1: a real formidable roster that's gonna be able to go

975
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 1: head to head with Dreamville ten or anybody else out there,

976
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 1: like like we got some scenes over here. Uh, And

977
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 1: I'm excited about that, right. I never thought I was

978
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 1: gonna jump back into the music industry, but I'm back

979
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 1: in a little with the music before. It was the time,

980
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 1: you know, when I had my job before, when I

981
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 1: was on A and R, I was working for the

982
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 1: publishing company. It was one of them things to where

983
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 1: I got so just disenchanted with it because there's so

984
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 1: much bullshit to go on this business. I mean, you

985
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 1: will have people to set meetings up with you to

986
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 1: tell you they want to do stuff, and then you

987
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 1: don't hear from these motherfuckers. No more right to be

988
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 1: in the middle of negotiating the contract, and the motherfucker

989
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:27,359
Speaker 1: just disappear on your ass. And then you see him

990
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 1: like six months down the road. Oh where you've been at? Man,

991
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 1: It's like, dude, why are you playing with me? You know,

992
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 1: I just got tired of the book, right, Yeah. I've

993
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 1: never told the act I was gonna sign them and

994
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 1: just just disappeared. I've never done it. I didn't get

995
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 1: to sign a whole bunch of people. But when I

996
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 1: had Mike chance and when I did go out Todell's,

997
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 1: I moved with a lot of intent. I didn't never

998
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 1: play with nobody's dreams, you know. I used to always

999
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 1: thought that was real fun, right, So I always managed

1000
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 1: guys expectations, right, Like if I'm meeting with a major

1001
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 1: label or something and they liked the music, I tell

1002
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 1: them this is so much more than that. This ship

1003
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 1: may not happen for another year. If it happens, you know,

1004
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 1: right Yeah. And sometimes and when it's meant to happen,

1005
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,800
Speaker 1: it's easy. When something is from God, it's really easy.

1006
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 1: You go through smooth, you know. It's like it's like

1007
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,839
Speaker 1: when we did our deal with Charlotte Maine. That shit

1008
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 1: was smooth. It took a while, but it was like,

1009
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 1: you know, from the time we had nasty talked and

1010
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 1: was talked just like shit, I think it might have

1011
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 1: taken us. Took us like, how long did it take

1012
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 1: y'all signing y'all do? Like three months something like that.

1013
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's because the attorney we had was bullshitting. I

1014
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 2: essentially ended up doing Listen, I'm a whole lawyer in

1015
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 2: my mind.

1016
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I've represented myself in multiple situations.

1017
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:40,359
Speaker 2: You know, I ended up having to deal with Ship

1018
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 2: because the lawyer was bullshitting, like I was wait for

1019
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 2: him to send the contract back little wear shit.

1020
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 3: So I just I pretty much had to take care

1021
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 3: of it myself after after about three.

1022
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 1: Months, that's what we did too. So it was after

1023
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 1: a while. It was like because the attorney, because you know,

1024
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:56,439
Speaker 1: they like to be you for hours, and I was like, dude,

1025
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 1: you're not about to slip here and.

1026
00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 3: Building doing nothing.

1027
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 1: You're not doing nothing. This chick is this Ship is

1028
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 1: not no ninety page document and it's pretty cut and dry.

1029
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 1: I know then what I wanted, and it was pretty cool.

1030
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:11,399
Speaker 1: It's like I said, Dolly is one of my favorite people.

1031
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 1: Shout out to Dolly Bishop.

1032
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 3: Yeah those are on Earth man.

1033
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, they good people, right. You know I can say

1034
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 1: to an extent they changed my life. You know, great people, right,

1035
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 1: But stuff takes time, right, And I always manage artists expectations,

1036
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 1: always say it's a lot of work to do, and

1037
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 1: just because you do get a deal, don't mean you

1038
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 1: can just go kick back right now. It's a lot

1039
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 1: of work to do.

1040
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 3: This is a lot of You get an advanced and

1041
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:42,439
Speaker 3: you've got to make sure you make that money back.

1042
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 1: It's not your money, then you're gonna pay it back

1043
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 1: out And man, music, that's a whole another episode right

1044
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 1: there for some different ship by itself. But I tell

1045
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:56,840
Speaker 1: people it's just not as easy. But I feel like

1046
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 1: I'm back in the place to be able to go

1047
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 1: out and actually help some young people a change their dreams, right,

1048
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 1: And I'm looking forward to that. I'm looking for the

1049
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 1: artists we've worked with. I just know I don't want

1050
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:09,320
Speaker 1: to see no shit going on like what's going on

1051
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 1: with Cardi B and the old girl Nicki Minaj right now.

1052
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 1: That shit is retarded, crash.

1053
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 3: It's just trash. It's just real trash, you know.

1054
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 2: And uh, you know right now, what's been replaying is

1055
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 2: like the Low Kim interview that she did on the

1056
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 2: Breakfast Club, Like I don't know nine years ago, something

1057
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 2: like that ten years ago where she was saying how

1058
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 2: like y'all won't see like because people were basically calling

1059
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:33,800
Speaker 2: her bitter, as if she was coming for Nicki minaj.

1060
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 2: I guess it was longer than that ago. But if

1061
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:40,319
Speaker 2: Nicki Minaje felt like Lo Kim was trying to sun

1062
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:42,439
Speaker 2: her like you need to bring you need to pay

1063
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 2: homage to me, she essentially is doing the same shit

1064
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 2: to Cardi B. You know what I'm saying, Like, I

1065
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 2: feel like I feel like she wants to be the

1066
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:52,800
Speaker 2: only person. She's on an island by herself, essentially, you know,

1067
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 2: she she wants everybody beneath her, people.

1068
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 3: To pay homage to you. You did birth all these

1069
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 3: other female rappers. You made a lane for them.

1070
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 2: I don't feel like anybody ever came in the game

1071
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:06,320
Speaker 2: disrespecting her. Most of these girls was in high school

1072
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:08,760
Speaker 2: when you came out. Nikki, you tripping.

1073
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:11,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, But you know what I say about that, right,

1074
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:16,399
Speaker 1: I think older people can do hip hop. I think

1075
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 1: if you are older, rap artists, because I know he's

1076
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,959
Speaker 1: probably about to release the best rap album of his career.

1077
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 1: He probably probably put the best album out he put

1078
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 1: out like in a long time, probably the best ever.

1079
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 1: Like seriously, like he this man that I ain't gonna

1080
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 1: speak on it too much, but it's really dope. Like

1081
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 1: people are gonna be really surprised and shocked. You know,

1082
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:38,399
Speaker 1: ain'tus coming with it on this shit?

1083
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:39,320
Speaker 3: Uh period?

1084
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:43,319
Speaker 1: I feel like this, right. I feel like hip hop

1085
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,800
Speaker 1: is about the young and angry, right. I feel like that,

1086
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 1: you know, a young person comes out and they doing

1087
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 1: their thing. You should you know, man, shut out to you.

1088
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 1: I think everybody has their time, right, Like I was

1089
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 1: listening to people talking about Kendrick oh man, he's the

1090
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 1: greatest ever. Man, I've been doing this shit a long time,

1091
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be a enough new motherfucker a year

1092
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 1: from now, two years from now, they gonna say it's

1093
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 1: the greatest ever. And I'm like, okay, I heard this before.

1094
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 1: Like at one time, Lil Wayne was that dude, you

1095
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 1: know what I mean?

1096
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:09,359
Speaker 2: Lol?

1097
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 1: Wayne was you know, it wasn't nobody didn't nobody think

1098
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 1: nobody would ever do it bigger than Wayne. But then

1099
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 1: Dad Kendrick, and it's gonna be somebody else. That's just

1100
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:18,359
Speaker 1: good for hip hop. You know, we need hip hop

1101
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:20,360
Speaker 1: to keep taking leaps and bounds.

1102
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 2: I never understand why everybody just can't coexist, Like, you

1103
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 2: can be good and I could be good week.

1104
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, good thing is. I'm pretty sure Dicki Minaj is

1105
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 1: financially I'm pretty sure her financial help is, health is

1106
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,439
Speaker 1: in order, right, I'm pretty sure she got more money

1107
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: than when she could ever imagine. She's doing her thing.

1108
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 1: Carti is doing her thing. Carti is on top of

1109
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 1: the game right now, her and Meghan and all of them,

1110
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 1: they're doing anything right now. I just don't like the

1111
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 1: old motherfucker's coming in and thinking that the young person

1112
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:48,320
Speaker 1: owed himself.

1113
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, down and kiss they asked, like no, yeah, I

1114
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 3: don't think now.

1115
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 1: I don't think the young person should be disrespectful. I

1116
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 1: think they always need to be mindful and pay homics

1117
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 1: gumble right, but.

1118
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 3: The minute you violate, like I'm a violate you.

1119
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:03,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know the thing what I see with Carti,

1120
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 1: I actually like Carti. I like Cardi oh a lot.

1121
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 1: I think Cardi is dope. I think she's doing her thing.

1122
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 1: I like her personality because she's a real hood chick.

1123
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:14,319
Speaker 1: I like that about her. She's really a hood chick,

1124
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 1: and she ain't change. She rich is a mother fucker

1125
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 1: right now, but she ain't change. She's still and she she.

1126
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 2: Never got used to the celebrity either, you know what

1127
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 2: I'm saying. That's why she's always arguing with people when

1128
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:26,359
Speaker 2: they talk about her. Like girl, you have to even

1129
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 2: in podcasting, you have to be okay with criticism, Like

1130
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 2: people talk hell is shit about me, like they don't

1131
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 2: know me in real life though, right the people who

1132
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 2: know me in real life love me, and that's really

1133
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 2: all that matters to me, right until if I get

1134
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:42,840
Speaker 2: to know some of these people who you know, I

1135
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 2: listen to the story listening to the show, but I

1136
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:46,400
Speaker 2: actually get to know you in real life and we

1137
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:48,280
Speaker 2: become friends or something like that, that's different.

1138
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 3: But you have to be able to accept criticism. Cardi B.

1139
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 3: She has never gotten okay.

1140
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 2: With celebrity like she And I'm not saying like disrespect

1141
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 2: should come with being a celebrity, but you should expect

1142
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 2: some hateration, right because when you're doing well, you kind

1143
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 2: of force people to recognize in their own situation, right,

1144
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 2: you kind of make people evaluate their own situation.

1145
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 3: So success either garner's admiration or hater ration.

1146
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 2: And adults have a hard time admitting that they fucking hater,

1147
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 2: So instead of saying, yeah, I'm a hater, they will

1148
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 2: create reasons to justify the hate. And that is what

1149
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 2: Nicki has done. She has creative reasons to.

1150
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 3: Not like the breakfast club. She thinks she's above repros.

1151
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:38,280
Speaker 2: Nobody's supposed to critique her, her songs, nobody's supposed to critique.

1152
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 3: Anything she does. Same thing with Cardi B.

1153
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 2: They don't want anybody seeing anything negative against them. They

1154
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 2: not always the most positive people though, right, So you

1155
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:50,800
Speaker 2: got to be careful that you're not putting out the

1156
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,399
Speaker 2: energy to receive that type of energy back.

1157
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 1: Oh, one hundred percent, for sure, And she for sure

1158
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 1: seemed like you know what it is, And I've seen

1159
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:01,839
Speaker 1: this with a lot of artists. You know how people

1160
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 1: are kind of like not that their career is over,

1161
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:05,840
Speaker 1: but they kind of in the twilight and they're not

1162
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 1: get attention. But somebody else here's right now, and it's

1163
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 1: almost they like mad about that, like they're not paying

1164
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 1: attention to me anymore. It's like, man, they enjoying this

1165
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:17,919
Speaker 1: time right now. And my thing, like you're rixis fuck

1166
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 1: do your thing like you're rich. Go go take your jetting,

1167
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 1: go some motherfucking where. I'm serious. I'll be honest with you.

1168
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 1: I help a lot of young podcasts right because I

1169
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 1: feel like this, if I can help somebody else, man

1170
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 1: and she, they go and do their thing. They I'm

1171
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:36,760
Speaker 1: so busy doing what the fuck? I'm so busy worried

1172
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 1: about what I got going on. I'm not paying the

1173
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 1: shout out to all of them. I think it's dope

1174
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 1: that you got young cats like cash or not. Man

1175
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 1: that's doing this credible stuff. He got an incredible platform, right,

1176
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:50,800
Speaker 1: he's doing this thing with the stream and stuff. You

1177
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:52,959
Speaker 1: got a whole bunch of little dudes, the little black

1178
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:55,320
Speaker 1: kids that fixed now getting trying.

1179
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:56,919
Speaker 3: To figure out how I can do that to a ship,

1180
00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 3: Like how did I get on.

1181
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 1: Sing man popping? I make this for my lane, for

1182
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 1: the o geez, you know what I mean. But but

1183
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 1: shot out to the yellow people doing anything. I don't

1184
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:12,840
Speaker 1: like that shirt, you know, And it's like this, I'm

1185
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 1: a Nicki Minaj. I think NICKI make dope music. I

1186
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:18,399
Speaker 1: think she's a dope ass MC. I think she dope.

1187
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:20,879
Speaker 1: Do your thing, don't worry about it. I do wish

1188
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 1: the one thing I wish that Cardi would do is

1189
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 1: stop worrying about what these motherfuckers got to say about her.

1190
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, you cannot address the whole world. You can't, so

1191
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 2: don't even try it. You got she got to get

1192
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:32,720
Speaker 2: thicker skin.

1193
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 1: And move on.

1194
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,359
Speaker 2: I don't even look at ship like. I don't look

1195
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 2: at negative things. If it's gonna affect my mental health.

1196
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:42,799
Speaker 1: I don't. Yeah, because I'm gonna tell you right now

1197
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:44,800
Speaker 1: what I don't like. I definitely don't like them on

1198
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:46,919
Speaker 1: there talking about each other's kids. I think that shit

1199
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:50,319
Speaker 1: is raggedy, and I think that's raggedy and destructive when

1200
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:53,359
Speaker 1: I think somebody can really get hurt when you start

1201
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 1: talking up people's kids, you can really get hurt. Like,

1202
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 1: that's a different you know, that's a different type of Uh,

1203
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 1: that's a whole different tape energy. Because I'm gonna tell you,

1204
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 1: somebody get to play with my kids. It's gonna be proud.

1205
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:05,799
Speaker 1: Probably it might be some pistol play involved.

1206
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 2: In that shit, you know, and all these kids young

1207
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 2: and the internet is only going to get more sophisticated,

1208
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:12,400
Speaker 2: and it's gonna be even easier for your kids to

1209
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 2: find this shit ten years from now.

1210
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. The Internet is not pencil,

1211
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 3: it's ink.

1212
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 2: You cannot delete this shit because they still got Archive

1213
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:24,280
Speaker 2: dot Com tempted to try and delete from the Internet.

1214
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 3: So you got to be careful what you're saying. Do

1215
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 3: online should have follow you for the rest of your

1216
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 3: fucking life.

1217
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 1: It is permanent, right then, you definitely have to be

1218
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:38,400
Speaker 1: mindful legal choices. Like I'm gonna tell you if with

1219
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 1: all the information I have I know something about you,

1220
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:44,279
Speaker 1: don't stay in the industry for thirty years and not

1221
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:48,400
Speaker 1: have no secrets about motherfucker's right. I know a whole

1222
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 1: bunch of stuff I can see about a whole bunch

1223
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 1: of famous people. That's real. I got received, Yeah, but

1224
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 1: I have integrity. It wouldn't it wouldn't do me no good,

1225
00:56:58,120 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 1: you know. So I go out and get a few

1226
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 1: more peace we're talking about, you know, I get, I

1227
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 1: get my five minutes and stuff. But I've damaged the

1228
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 1: relationship that's been a long term relationship. I care more

1229
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:11,760
Speaker 1: about my relationships out there trying to spot on somebody.

1230
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:14,359
Speaker 1: And I always thought that that was something I'm trying

1231
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 1: to stop cursing. I always thought that was some ba stuff,

1232
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 1: some fix and stuff. You know. I always thought that

1233
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 1: was be a behavior. You know, rumors about people gossip.

1234
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 2: Right, that's one of the things that people that's one

1235
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 2: of those characteristics they want to assign to women.

1236
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 1: Right.

1237
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 3: But men be out here dragging each other.

1238
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 1: Or no, let me tell you this, ragging each other.

1239
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 1: Men stay on the phone with each other all day

1240
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 1: like shabby, patty, you and all that. I'm gonna tell

1241
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 1: you one thing. I cut off. I love my homeboys,

1242
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 1: shout my homeboys. But talk about whatever you got to

1243
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 1: talk about. Let go, let's move. When I got time

1244
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 1: to be on the phone for two hours, she with

1245
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 1: the homies. Now O, I know, me and you usually talk.

1246
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 1: We usually talk a while, but we usually have the

1247
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 1: found we don't talk every day, right, we don't talk

1248
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 1: every ding. We talk. We talk conversations, we catch up

1249
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 1: on stuff, right, And I'm cool with that, right, But

1250
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 1: all that stuff he gotta be Now, don't get me wrong.

1251
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 1: If we talking business and strategizing, to me, that's fun.

1252
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 1: That's getting stuff done. But I'm not just gonna stay

1253
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 1: on the phone to talk about so and so on

1254
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 1: what they got going on, especially if them motherfuckers got

1255
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 1: more money than us. What the hell do I care

1256
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 1: about what he got going on? For he doing what

1257
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 1: he's supposed to be doing. Let us go off the

1258
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 1: phone and get to the bag so we can, you know,

1259
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 1: get our money up so somebody can sit at home

1260
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 1: and talk about us on the phone. Right.

1261
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, people like to a minute chatty patty, but he

1262
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 2: gonna he's gonna ask you directly in your face, you

1263
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like, he's not gonna talk about

1264
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 2: you behind your back. If you want to come a

1265
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 2: parent and correct some shit, he's gonna let you come

1266
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 2: correct some ship like they are essentially reporters of the culture.

1267
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 3: He can't be a chat you know.

1268
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 2: What I'm saying. And then furthermore, he's not going to

1269
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 2: talk shit about you behind your back, like I'm pretty

1270
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 2: sure you'll triple check with you if need be.

1271
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Charlemagne is a good cat. Let me ask

1272
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 1: you this. Do you remember that situation happened between him

1273
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 1: and bird Man? Yes, everything looked so funny because Charlotte

1274
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 1: Mage is man. Why do you want to arrest the

1275
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:23,439
Speaker 1: radio personality, go say something.

1276
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 3: Even the ship with.

1277
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 2: Dame Dash the other day, that shit pissed me off

1278
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:35,440
Speaker 2: so bad because I like, this is my family, right.

1279
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 3: I just feel like he was trying to fuck out

1280
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:39,920
Speaker 3: of Charlamagne.

1281
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 2: That shit was bugging me so bad, you know, And

1282
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 2: I told I actually hit Charlamagne up, and I was like,

1283
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 2: you know this, I feel like this nigga trying to

1284
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 2: before the before the headlines came out. I mean, same day,

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Speaker 2: I said, Nah, this nigga trying to provoke. He was

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Speaker 2: trying to provoke you so he can have a lawsuit.

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Speaker 3: And sure nothing.

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Speaker 2: A couple of hours later, he threatened to sue camera on,

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Speaker 2: threatening to shoot sue iHeart Radio in the breakfast club,

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Speaker 2: Like that's all it was about.

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Speaker 3: Like that nigga was literally trying to get Sean and

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Speaker 3: hit him.

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Speaker 1: What does he gonna suit the breakfast club for? But

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Speaker 1: you know that with Charlotte Lane got thick skin. You

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Speaker 1: call him, You're sitting up there trying to call the

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Speaker 1: homie gay. It's not gonna do nothing for your arm.

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Speaker 1: It's not You're not gonna get a reaction out of

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Speaker 1: Charlotte Mayne with that.

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Speaker 2: Ship essentially from a man who was secure with his sexuality.

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Speaker 2: Now you can say that to some people who might

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Speaker 2: be sneaking and geeking on the low, and it might

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Speaker 2: offend them because they really got some ship to hide,

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Speaker 2: right for real, you know, But you got to tell

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Speaker 2: a man who's an actual, actual man. I don't think

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Speaker 2: Dame Dash he's losing it, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: I think he's fucked up financially for sure. And it's

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Speaker 3: sad because he is one of the legends too in

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Speaker 3: in in the industry.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think, you know this what I tell people,

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Speaker 1: because Momi would ask me about it and I told him,

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Speaker 1: I said, you know what, I think he may be

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Speaker 1: having some financial issues right now, but his definition broke

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Speaker 1: is probably a little bit different than the average persons.

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Speaker 1: D Ain' probably got him a million a couple of

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Speaker 1: million stats away somewhere, no for sure.

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Speaker 2: And I think that's what he was trying to insinuate

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Speaker 2: on the show right when he kept saying, my family,

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Speaker 2: he basically got his shit in the trust, which he

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Speaker 2: if he's going through bankruptcy court right now.

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Speaker 3: A lot of the shit he was saying on that

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Speaker 3: interview should not have been said.

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Speaker 2: If I was his lawyer, all right, I would have

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Speaker 2: call him and said, shut the fuck up. Why was

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Speaker 2: you on there saying these things like I don't think

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Speaker 2: that he's going to get the bankruptcy he wants, right,

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Speaker 2: because you are essentially on a nationally syndicated radio show

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Speaker 2: basically saying how you hide in money because we know

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Speaker 2: that you hire money trust els and shit like that.

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Speaker 2: So he keeps saying his family office that's essentially a trust,

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Speaker 2: that's where he's operating, doing his business out of now

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Speaker 2: because his name is fucked up.

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Speaker 1: And the thing is this, if I'm going through a bankruptcyuh,

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Speaker 1: for sure, not though saying nothing to him bankruptcy per

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Speaker 1: seing that takes you about six months for your bankruptcy

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Speaker 1: to close out, don't it.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I've never filed. I've never filed bankruptcy.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure, man, ship, I'm gonna tell you that's

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Speaker 1: how I got my credit, Dude, I filed for bank

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Speaker 1: before my credit got deod. Motherfucker. After words. Wouldn't have

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Speaker 1: been after sure, wouldn't have been on those on those

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Speaker 1: show talking about with the money the breed a ride somewhere. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's because he's another dude of the.

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Speaker 3: Ego is killing people. The eagle is killing.

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Speaker 1: Working people. Tell the people that where they can go

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Speaker 1: listen to y'all show man what Stup'll? Okay?

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Speaker 1: that's my home girl right there, like my sister. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate y'all checking in with us. And on that note,

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Speaker 1: we out of here this well. That concludes another episode

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Speaker 1: of The Gainst the Chronicles podcast. Be sure to download

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